September 17, 2024 • 42 mins
Norm Blumenthal - an attorney for workers and consumers. Selected as one of the Top Attorneys in Southern California. Norm was inducted and recognized as one of America's Most Trusted Lawyers in Employment Law.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you so much for
being here. We really appreciate it. We appreciate the comments,
the share, the suggestions. We appreciate your just your interaction
in general. Thank you so much. Today we're gonna be
talking about Harris versus Trump with lawyer Norm bloomin thought.
(00:37):
Norm Blumenthal's an attorney and for consumers and workers. Selected
as one of the top attorneys in Southern California, Norm
was also inducted and recognized as one of America's most
trusted lawyers in employment law. Norm Bluemen Hall Blumenthal, Welcome back.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
All right, very nice to be back, and excited the
debate coming tonight. I was talking to you about it,
and it reminds me way back when when Joe Namath
was first coming up with the New York Jets in
the Instant American Football League and they were it was
I think it was the third Super Bowl and they
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were playing against the old line Baltimore Cults Johnny Uniteds
and on his last leg coming in for the game
and Joe Namath and you know, with all his swagger
and all his new ideas, he predicted that they would win.
And he was a seventeen point underdog in that game.
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But they had some new ideas. They'd had some new
ideas with the quarterback back and you know, the shotgun
offense as opposed to the old single t and you know,
he said he would win, and he did, and they
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won by seventy seventeen points. So I think the thread
was like thirty four, but it's I think it's the
same kind of thing we have here. What we have
is an old guy with no new tricks, coming in
with a lot of banter and accusations and threats and
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no real substance to anything to except the same old
what he's he's going he did before, just protect the
people with money and make sure they do well, and
basically the heck with everybody else. You know, he's the
one that killed the border bill that was already passed.
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They would have protected everybody. Inflation's down to under three percent,
where they want to go. It's not a problem today.
If you look at the charts, oil has dropped below
sixty five dollars a barrow. And why is that Because
the demand for oil for automobiles has decreased as the
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electric car is taking hold in China and the United
States and Europe with the bigger, big users. So what's
happening is is there's just no demand for oil and
the fact that we, you know, may have the biggest production,
it's not going to benefit anybody as oil drops and
natural gases drop the equivalent of about twelve dollars a
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barrel in energy sources. So it's coming. If we can
implement these new ideas that Kamala Harris has and that
have been started by President Biden, we'll be you know,
we'll be rolling along here. And I really feel good
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about it. And I think people should look to the
future and the idea that we're going to have a
clean environment, clean air, will have inflation will be over
and away we go. I mean inflation. You know, when
Biden came into office, a thousand people a day were
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dying from COVID and we turned that around with the vaccine.
And they spent a lot of money in doing this,
and of course there was some upheaval to keep the
economy going, but it's going in all the right directions,
and everybody says we're going to have a soft landing
and we should stay away from these crazy tariffs that
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Trump's trying to put on. I mean, this is really
it's a pretty clear choice. So we're going to look
to the future. Are we're going to look to the past?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Well, and I think it goes beyond that. Are we
going to are we going to settle for four years
of in fighting and just violent rhetoric and all sorts
of craziness to distract us from the fact that nothing's
getting done.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yeah, you know he's coming in this Project twenty twenty five.
It's a wrecking ball. Basically, they want to wreck the government,
take away what we all the work that we've done
over the last two hundred and fifty years, and destroy
it and starting and you know, we're going to take
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it all away and come up with something where the
rich get richer and the four have children. And so
this is where we're at, and it's a terrible situation that,
in fact, people would want to destroy what we have
worked so hard for coming out of the COVID No,
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like no other country did. That's why we're leading the world.
The dollars the strongest currency is because we did it,
and we did it all on Biden's watch, and Harris
was there the time, and she's going to make it better.
But there's nothing that Biden should be ashamed of. He's
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just you know, you can't play the same quarterback when
you know he's he's had seen his better days. Even
the greatest of all time had to retire, right, you can't.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I can't say, you know, I want to spend a
little bit more time on Project twenty twenty five. I
urge all of our listeners to check out Project twenty
twenty five. It's a humongous, humongous, over the top strategy
to get rid of anybody that is not willing to
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be a Trump loyalist. Some of the things in there,
besides reproductive rights that they want to eliminate and including IBF,
they also want to eliminate labor laws that protect children.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, it's you know, and unfortunately we have a Supreme
Court that is beyond extreme in the things that they
want to destroy in this country. Giving the president blanket immunity,
it's basically setting it up that he could do no
wrong and we'll be back to the dictatorship. This is
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all very, very frightening, and people just need to sober up.
And you know, look at what they're bringing to this country.
If we end up with four more years of Trump,
he may never leave and he's going to destroy the
country with his tariffs. Who's going to pay the tariffs?
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What is this guy thinking? You think that the company
is not going to pass along the extra costs for
the tariff to the consumer. Of course he is. And
what is it going to have? Inflation that brought down
the nineteen twenty nine crash was caused by tariffs, and
everybody talked to any economists you want to talk to,
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that's what caused the laws that were passed that created
these artificial tariffs and destroyed our trade. So this is
this is the kind of thing that they're trying to do.
It's going to destroy this country, and everybody in these
jurisdictions where in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin and Michigan, you know,
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take it, you know, drink a cup of coffee, sober up,
and you know, don't be so angry, because good times
are coming for your children and grandchildren if we just
stay the course. Sixty five dollars oil oil was one
hundred dollars a barrel when Biden came in. And what
he did is he flooded the market with oil and
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he brought the price down into to seventy and anytime
it tried to go above it, he'd put more oil
into the system, and when it went lower, he'd buy oil.
Now he broke them. He got it down to sixty
five dollars a barrel. So these are the kind of
things that you have to think about. Inflation, it was
eleven percent when he came into office. What is it
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at now below three percent? I mean, look at the statistics.
What are people thinking? Why would you want to bring
this crazy guy back into office that all he wants
to do is lock everybody else up and fight his
petty fights. This man is not mentally stable and people
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need to take that into consideration when you're voting for him.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
And don't forget, and don't forget. Besides everything you just mentioned,
he's looking forward to financially benefiting from the present office,
especially now that again he's got unfettered immunity. Right, he
can do whatever he wants, including getting paid for pardons,
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getting paid for any kind of influence. You know, he
was doing this. There was allegedly he was doing some
of the stuff last time he was in office. And
so you know, again you have to just put aside
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the party because the Conservative what do you call it,
Republican Party is not what it was, let's say, ten
years ago. This is a different party with different agenda,
and they're not putting America first. They're putting themselves first.
And on top of that, they have justified that the
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means justify the result right, which means breaking the laws,
which means not cooperating with Congress. It just goes on
and on and on, and then we've already mentioned twenty
twenty five. There's also a clip where Trump tells a
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bunch of oil executives that you get me in office,
and I'll help you with not only drilling, getting rid
of getting rid of environmental restrictions, but making sure that
they can price the oil at whatever they want. So again,
these are things that you got to take into consideration
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when thinking about who you're going to vote for.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Basically, Trump is selling fear and greed. This is who
he is, fear and greed. He wants you all to
be afraid of the Democrats and Kamala Harris and what
they've done, which is great. I mean, why should we
be afraid of sixty five dollars oil and three percent inflation?
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Why there's no reason. What have they done except help
Americans and put us back on top. When Trump left office,
it was a wreck. A thousand people a day were
dying of COVID when he got out of there, and
you know, that was just the start of it, and
it was all turned around. People forget what success we've
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had over the last four years. You know, you know
when Trump is lying, his lips are moving right, this
is who this guy is.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Well, I mean he must not forget.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Say anything and do anything right.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
And some of the things that people are forgotten. Look,
the Trump likes to use immigrants and again especially the
undocumented immigrants, as some kind of scapegoat. And I think
that you mentioned this earlier. You know, he was the
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one that caused the immigration bill not to get past
when Republicans agreed it was the best bill they'd ever seen.
That's number one. Number two. When he was in office
last he hurt the American farmers. Why because they couldn't
find anybody to pick their crops. I believe at one
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point there was like twenty tons of food that had
gone unpicked because of this fear. And the whole thing
is is that, for Heaven's sakes, look at when you
when you when you look at the immigration situation, we
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have not had a bunch of issues with immigrants trying
to ruin America or take down America. We get that
from the Chinese, we get that from Russia, we get
that from we call it Ices and some of these
other radical people from the Middle East. The Mexican people. Again,
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I know we have immigrants from different what we call it,
Spanish speaking countries, but generally speaking, the Mexican people, the
immigrants here that we've had have been good. Yes, there
are always some who run red lights, who drink and drive,
who cause fights, but that's a very small percentage as
opposed to the people who work hard, they're trying to
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make their life better, they're sending money home. And I'm
not by you know, and I'm not saying, hey, they
should all just you know, we should just look the
other way. I'm just saying that there's a reasonable way
of giving these people. You and I've talked about this before.
Norm giving these people some kind of work to permit
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or visa so they can come in do the work
that we all want them to do, which is primarily
pick the crops and and do a lot of these
manual labors that that we as Americans don't want to
do anymore. And then by by laying by laying them
allowing them to have a permit or a visa, they
can be tracked, they can pay taxes, they they they
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can be part of the system versus being outside of
the system.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
So you know which, go ahead, go ahead. I'm sorry again.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
What I was going to finish saying is we have
to have a party. We have to have people in
Congress who are results or solution oriented and not people
who are just looking for their own interest trying to
keep power and just again distracting us with this crazy
ongoing bickery.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah, if you're a Latino, I just want to tell you,
if you're a working stiff Latino and you're out there
and you are documented or undocumented, basically Trump's going to
pass a stop in frisk law. And what it's going
to be is you're going to have to carry with
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you documentation and if you don't have documentation, and your
stop they're going to put you in a holding pen,
and he wants to lock up eleven million Latinos. So
you know, get your head examined. If you're a Latino,
you should be voting for Harris. You should hope that
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gotcha wins because what Trump has planned for Latinos is
something that no one should have planned for them, because
this is what he's gonna be. This is what he's proposed.
He's going to have holding pins for eleven million undocumented
personnel that have legitimate jobs, could have been here ten years.
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I mean, it doesn't matter. If there's going to be
no excuse for being in this country without coming in legally,
you're going to be You're going to be shipped out
and there's gonna be no ability to come back in.
This is what he's proposing for. If it's not for you,
if you're Latino, it's look down the road and look
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at the at the next Latino. It could be for
him or her.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
So if you're.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Voting and you're a citizen, vote for your your your neighbors,
and your friends who may not be because they're going
to be taken out of this country and it's going
to be something that's going to be awful to see
and we can't let that happen. And so every I
just urge all of the Latinos to vote for Harris,
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and she's going to be the one that'll will keep
them safe.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Right. And look, one of Trump's plans on that whole
immigration thing is he's been bragging and again Project twenty
twenty five also supports this that they want to do
massive deportation. One of the things that former President Trump
doesn't understand is the economy we have a or we
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profit from a lot of these Latinos, these non documented
as well as documented immigrants that come in here. If
you got rid of them, that's going to hurt the
hotel industry. And so what you just look at the
hotel industry, the restaurant industry, the landscaping industry, the agriculture industry. Now,
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if all of these quote immigrants were gone, you're going
to now replace these people with people who are going
to want higher wages for cleaning those rooms and picking
those crops and washing those dishes, and so now you're
looking at again all of those costs would be passed
down to consumers. So if you think going out to
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eat now is expensive. Wait till everybody in that restaurant
is making thirty forty dollars an hour because that's what
they demand in order to work at the restaurants.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Yeah, and you know, the one idea was good I
thought was, you know, not taxing gratuities. I thought that,
and I think Harris thought that was a good idea too,
and she adopted it. I mean, that's something at that
level of a server level and a hospitality and somebody
cleaning the rooms, why not if someone want to leave
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the gratuity, let them keep it. And so that's something
that that that's easily approves. I think I don't think
anybody's against it. It's not a lot of money that's
not being taxed, but it gives them, gives people working
at these levels on a little bit of of the
additional funds, so that's all good. I mean, they're going
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to be good a salary anyway. But you're right, there's
not couldn't be anybody left to do these jobs. They're
not going to show up at work because guess who's
gonna be there is Ice. Ice is going to be
the immigration police and they're gonna you know, raid hotels,
raid restaurants and take people away. I mean, this is
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what they're doing and putting them in holding pens. It's
frightening the things that he says he's going to do.
And it's something and let's.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Just and less and let's not forget. One of the
things that he's been saying lately is you that you
you don't even have to vote for me anymore. We're
gonna make it happen and this will be the you know,
I think he's said a couple of times, this will
be the last, the last time you have to vote,
and then he's now he's kind of changed that to
saying you won't even have to vote. And the reason
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why they're saying this is because again a lot of
people don't know this. The Republican Party has filed numerous
lawsuits trying to change, uh, the the way ballots are
to be counted and and try to make it harder
for people to vote. They want to get rid of
mail in voting. They don't want the government to help
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facilitate the voting process. They're trying to restrict what the
government can do and say about voting, which is ridiculous,
but look it up, ladies and gentlemen, don't take my
word for it. Look at how many lawsuits the Republican
Party has filed just to try to change voting and
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voting rights. So this is like an all encompassing what
do you call it, multi level warfare.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yeah, there's at this point, and you know, my applause
go out to the people that are actually working the
voting boots and the polls. These workers who come out there,
I mean they're threatening them, yes, but yet they show
up anyway because of their civic duty and civic pride,
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and we should be glad that they show up and
legitimately count the votes and you have a full and
fair election because that's what they do. And you're on
the rolls and you're approved, you should be entitled to vote.
You know that you've proved your citizenship. You don't have
to carry around your birth certificate or a passport. Most
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people don't have passports. And so it's creating us will
create a serious problem for Latinos because they are going
to be segregated out for mass deportation. And so this
is I mean, people need to wake up. I mean,
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these are these are threats that are coming in fear
and greed. And the other end of it is greed.
You're right. You know everything's for sale. You want to
do business in the United States, you got to pay
him off. I mean, that's that's what it's. That's any
I don't think there's any secret about it. No about
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the money.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Now the Supreme Yeah, and now the Supreme Court has
put their stamp of approval on it, so he essentially
can do whatever he wants, including assassinate opponents, as long
as it's as long as it's an official act, it's
good to go.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Yeah. And you know, this is what they're saying. I've
never I mean I read the Constitution. There's nothing in
there about executive privilege. Doesn't talk about that. You know,
the idea that for your access president, you're immune from
prosecution if it's a criminal act. No, there's nothing, and
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it they just made it up right, and that that's
the frightening part of it is the structure of the
government in the court system, and we want to take
it to the executive branch in the army is going
to be the one of a dictatorship. That's where he's headed.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
And again, if you look at that project twenty twenty five,
I'm so grateful that these people printed this up and
circulated it because it really shows you what they want
to do with the military. They want you know, they
they have just really radical ideas. And speaking of the military,
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look how many top military personnel have said they either
won't work with Trump or that Trump is unfit, that Trump,
you know, has many issues when it comes to separating
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right from wrong. And these are people who have worked
with them. Never, never have we had so many people
tell you that a president is unfit and these are
people who have worked with them. It's not his opponents,
it's people who are from his party that actually worked
for him. We're talking. It's something like eighty percent have
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come out against former President Trump. That to me is crazy,
unprecedented to have that level or yeah, that percentage, that
high level of that high percentage of people telling you
that their former boss is not a good person, is
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not a good leader. People need to wake up and listen.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yeah, and you know, it just comes back to me
at the end of the day. You know, Biden's stepped away,
I mean from who would step away from their job
because the country. He put the country first, right, and
now it's up to Harris is the get the ball
over the goal line and score here. And I think
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she's one to do it. I think she can take
him on. She's a prosecutor, she knows what to do.
And he'll be all over her physically and emotionally to
try to break her. There's no doubt about that. And
she needs to stand firm and you know, have him
stand in his place and call him for what he is.
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He's a liar, he know stuff up. It's just everything
he says is a lie. And you know, the economy
people would just step back and smell the roses. The
economy is doing well. People are doing well, and there
are some that have gotten through the safety net, and
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you know something needs to be said about and I
don't know if it's going to be brought up now.
It's a homeless situation. That's you know, a situation where
the something needs to be done to help them. You know,
we need some type of urban core that to help
these people and get them back on their feet and
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and and but you know there needs to be to
be something done, but it's never mentioned. Hopefully somebody will
talk about that tonight, right.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Right, I'll tell you what so so we have a gentleman.
His name is Alan Lichtmann l C H T M
A N. He is a professor I forgot for what university.
This guy has predicted the nine the ten presidents. So
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he's got a ninety percent success track. Yeah, percent success.
He's predicting that Harris will win. So I'm hoping that
he's right. I think that we have again, I think
something like two or three hundred Republicans, including Liz Cheney,
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who Liz Cheney is hardcore conservative, but she's a true conservative.
She's a true Republican. She put the country first before
her party, and so you have her and like I said,
probably two hundred other Republicans who are supporting Harris. This
is how bad Trump is.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Yeah, No, Harris has to leave it all on the
field tonight. I mean basically, she's just got to go
after him. He is weak, you know, all dictators when
you when you show them, we show them up for
the truth, they'll fold. And this is what she has
to do. He is weak and he and he needs
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to be attacked, you know, basically, and they can. He
has all these weak spots that we bring up and
we talk about, and Harris has to carry the ball
over the finish line, and you know she has to
score because she's behind. I mean, there may be some
predictions that she's going to win, but you know, the
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polls say that in the because it's you know, she'll
windley a popular vote, but that's not necessarily going to
carry her in the electoral votes. And all these states
that you know make the difference. And so everybody's got
to turn out and vote for Harris and hope that
she delivers tonight because I think that this is this
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is the last chance that go toe to toe, and
you know, he'll run back into his corner and talk
about how he's won everything and how wonderful he is.
But the truth will be in the performance tonight, and
you know, you know, I'm hoping that she can she
can take him.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I think she will. I think she has a couple
of things that she has in her favors. She is
much younger, she is a very sharp she seems to
be pretty fast on her feet. I think she will
outperform him tonight. Look, here's what's so funny. When she
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was first what do you call it, nominated as the
presidential nominee, instead of him attacking her for her skill
set or maybe some of her mistakes or something like that.
He comes out and starts attacking her on her race.
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You know that she wasn't really black until she started
running for president. Things that really have no bearing on
a candidate, whether they're black or white, brown, who what,
what do they stand for? How are they going to
help our country? How are they going to help the
citizens of this country? That's what matters. And so the
I think for the first month or two all he
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could talk about is she's not really black. It just
goes to show you how weak is his pision is,
how weak his campaign is, that he's attacking somebody on
their race.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Yeah, you know, I just think that if you look
at what has happened over the last four years, the
Biden should be proud of what he's done. Unemployments below
four percent and going down. Inflation's below three percent and
going down. Oil prices are below sixty five dollars a
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barrel and going down. The sales of electric vehicles and
use of solar energy and solar batteries are going up.
And she's got to stand there and go toe to
toe with him and make no apologies for where we
are sure everybody's not done when we have to do more,
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that's for sure, and make sure that we don't leave
anybody behind. But at this point in time, for everybody
out there, if he comes into office and things start
to go sideways with these tariffs, the first thing they're
going to do companies is tighten their belt. Interest rates
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will go up again and they'll stop trying to work
on AI. When they stop work on AI and all
these stocks that are leading the tech revolution on the
stock market, the market will crash. And if you bring
Trump in, that's what you're going to have. Look at
your four h one case and where they are today,
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because if he gets in office, they aren't going to
be half of what they are. And that's what you're
up against because he'll be corrupt. The same thing happened
in Venezuela, the same thing happened in Argentina. This is
where dictators come in and the countries fall apart. And
it's really that serious. This man should not be in office.
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He's gotten into offices because everybody's afraid of him. In
the Republican primaries, and he's able to get thirty five
percent of the Republican vote and was able to knock
out anybody that went against them, and they are all
living political political fear of Trump.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Right. And by the way, let's not forget that one
of the trials, this criminal trial where he was indicted
or he was found guilty thirty four times. This was
a lot of people think that it's a hush money case. Yes,
that was just one of the elements. But he paid
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a media outlet to catch negative stories and kill them.
He also paid the same media outlet, the National Inquirer,
to post stories that were completely fake about his opponent.
This guy is diabolical. He is not here to play
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by any set of moral rules. He will cheat, he
will lie, he will steal if it puts him in power.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Yeah, and I think people have to wake up, you know,
smell the coffee. This is serious. I mean, your vote
is serious here, and that the idea that well, I'm
gonna vote for Trump and let him stir it up.
We've already tried that once and we ended up with
COVID killing over a million people. Because he he ended
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up he couldn't do anything. He wanted to inject everybody
with chlorox. I mean, this is what the guy thinks.
I mean, he's mentally not all there.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Right, Well, it's not. It's not just it's not it's
not just that you know, I don't. I don't personally
blame him for brainstorming goofy ideas. But the thing that
we must remember is this guy is unethical. Right. It
was reported time and time again that if you spend
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enough money at the Trump Hotel in Washington, DC, he
would make an appearance for your party. There are a
lot of foreign dignitaries that booked and paid beyond the
going price for his hotel rooms so they could influence
him or get him to do stuff for them. There
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was a lawsuit that was brought regarding this, and because
he lost the election, the Supreme Court didn't rule on it.
They said, since he lost the election, it's moot. And
I thought that was very lazy of them. But either way,
it goes back to show you that right now your
vote is super important. We have a questionable, if not corrupt,
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Supreme Court. We have a gentleman who has shown time
and time again he cannot be trusted that a large
percentage of people that are work for him do not
find him credible or trustworthy. You do not want this
individual in power. You don't want him close to anything
that would smell like power. And the fact that he's
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got this weird stranglehold on the Republican Party, it just
goes to show you that the Republicans have become very
weak to give into his demands.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Well, you know, I think this idea that the economy
is weak is a false is false. They've just made
this up and everybody's buying into it, and it's false.
Look at the facts, and the facts are unemployments under
four percent, inflations under three percent, oils under sixty five
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dollars of barrow, and people are working. So think where
you were four years ago and where you are today,
and how much more you're making now. And prices are
coming down and inflation's coming down, and interest rates are
coming down, and the stock market's going up. The stock
market tells, there's there's nothing more more truth than the
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stock market. The stock market tells you if we're doing
well or we're not. And the stock market says we're
doing just fine, and so broke.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Don't fix it, right, And not to mention, let's not
forget this very vital point, Norman, that is that the
Biden Herr's administration. Uh and and right now the Hera's campaign.
She actually has different strategies to improve America, to get
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more people working, to get the cost of living down.
Trump has no such plans. His main thing is he
deserves to be in power and then he deserves to
it to go after his opponents. That's basically it. Even
hardcore conservatives have mentioned the fact that he's got no plan,
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he's got no real policies in place to help America
become stronger and better.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
And the idea, you know, some type of gun control
on AR fifteen's and in this country and background checks
needs to come in. Seventy percent of the people want
to see that happen. And this is something. And when
there's these killings that's the most recent one at school,
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you know, Vance comes in and goes, well, we just
have to get used to it. We don't have to
get used to it. Right, there's a law that can
be passed that can keep guns away from fourteen year olds.
I mean, come on, I mean.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Really, and look what the prosecutors are now doing. They've
stepped up their game and they're going after these parents
who are being negligent with their children. And the guns.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Yeah, and again before it happened, the police interviewed the
father and he says, well, you know, I taught him
about how to be safe with guns, and they walked
away because children can have guns. Really, is that where
we are? I mean, come on, I mean at the
end of the day, you know, we have to make
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the world a little bit safer from everybody having an
AR fifteen.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
An AR fifteen that the that the average person really
does not need.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
No, it's a military weapon and you really don't need
it unless you want to, you know, kill other people.
I mean, that's basically what it's good for. And so
this is what people think about. But people nobody wants that.
So you know, you need to have background checks. There's
responsible people that can have guns that they want, but
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not people that have mental illness problems and not juveniles
that can't happen. But the Trump administration they don't care
about this, doesn't you know. They get their money from
the NRA and they're happy to have it and do
their bidding. Same thing with the oil companies the same way.
So this is where you know, everything will go backwards again.
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You can start spinning the clock back. If Trump gets
re elected. It's a frightening thought.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Absolutely, absolutely, Norm. It's good to have you here. We
appreciate you fighting the good fight, and we look forward
to having you back again.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Yeah, sure, Bert, And hopefully we'll see what happens tonight.
You know, we're the underdog and we got to be
in there. And hopefully Harris will leave it all in
the game.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
I bet you, I bet you she will. I think
that the I know that the citizens in the United
States are looking forward to this debate. They're they're looking
forward to watching Trump get squashed. I think the world
in general are going to be looking at this debate.
It's probably going to have some huge numbers on it.
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And and I'm looking forward to it and and I
can't wait to get you back and talk about it.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Okayper at all the best?
Speaker 2 (41:19):
All right, good stuff there from Norm Blumenthal. Norm Blumenthal
is an attorney for workers and consumers. If you want
to find out more about Norm, you can go to
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I don't know, maybe you think we are just too liberal.
That's what it is. These guys are soft and uh
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
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Speaker 3 (00:55):
All right, very nice to be back, and excited the
debate coming tonight. I was talking to you about it,
and it reminds me way back when when Joe Namath
was first coming up with the New York Jets in
the Instant American Football League and they were it was
I think it was the third Super Bowl and they
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were playing against the old line Baltimore Cults Johnny Uniteds
and on his last leg coming in for the game
and Joe Namath and you know, with all his swagger
and all his new ideas, he predicted that they would win.
And he was a seventeen point underdog in that game.
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But they had some new ideas. They'd had some new
ideas with the quarterback back and you know, the shotgun
offense as opposed to the old single t and you know,
he said he would win, and he did, and they
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won by seventy seventeen points. So I think the thread
was like thirty four, but it's I think it's the
same kind of thing we have here. What we have
is an old guy with no new tricks, coming in
with a lot of banter and accusations and threats and
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no real substance to anything to except the same old
what he's he's going he did before, just protect the
people with money and make sure they do well, and
basically the heck with everybody else. You know, he's the
one that killed the border bill that was already passed.
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They would have protected everybody. Inflation's down to under three percent,
where they want to go. It's not a problem today.
If you look at the charts, oil has dropped below
sixty five dollars a barrow. And why is that Because
the demand for oil for automobiles has decreased as the
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electric car is taking hold in China and the United
States and Europe with the bigger, big users. So what's
happening is is there's just no demand for oil and
the fact that we, you know, may have the biggest production,
it's not going to benefit anybody as oil drops and
natural gases drop the equivalent of about twelve dollars a
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barrel in energy sources. So it's coming. If we can
implement these new ideas that Kamala Harris has and that
have been started by President Biden, we'll be you know,
we'll be rolling along here. And I really feel good
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about it. And I think people should look to the
future and the idea that we're going to have a
clean environment, clean air, will have inflation will be over
and away we go. I mean inflation. You know, when
Biden came into office, a thousand people a day were
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dying from COVID and we turned that around with the vaccine.
And they spent a lot of money in doing this,
and of course there was some upheaval to keep the
economy going, but it's going in all the right directions,
and everybody says we're going to have a soft landing
and we should stay away from these crazy tariffs that
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Trump's trying to put on. I mean, this is really
it's a pretty clear choice. So we're going to look
to the future. Are we're going to look to the past?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Well, and I think it goes beyond that. Are we
going to are we going to settle for four years
of in fighting and just violent rhetoric and all sorts
of craziness to distract us from the fact that nothing's
getting done.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yeah, you know he's coming in this Project twenty twenty five.
It's a wrecking ball. Basically, they want to wreck the government,
take away what we all the work that we've done
over the last two hundred and fifty years, and destroy
it and starting and you know, we're going to take
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it all away and come up with something where the
rich get richer and the four have children. And so
this is where we're at, and it's a terrible situation that,
in fact, people would want to destroy what we have
worked so hard for coming out of the COVID No,
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like no other country did. That's why we're leading the world.
The dollars the strongest currency is because we did it,
and we did it all on Biden's watch, and Harris
was there the time, and she's going to make it better.
But there's nothing that Biden should be ashamed of. He's
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just you know, you can't play the same quarterback when
you know he's he's had seen his better days. Even
the greatest of all time had to retire, right, you can't.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I can't say, you know, I want to spend a
little bit more time on Project twenty twenty five. I
urge all of our listeners to check out Project twenty
twenty five. It's a humongous, humongous, over the top strategy
to get rid of anybody that is not willing to
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be a Trump loyalist. Some of the things in there,
besides reproductive rights that they want to eliminate and including IBF,
they also want to eliminate labor laws that protect children.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, it's you know, and unfortunately we have a Supreme
Court that is beyond extreme in the things that they
want to destroy in this country. Giving the president blanket immunity,
it's basically setting it up that he could do no
wrong and we'll be back to the dictatorship. This is
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all very, very frightening, and people just need to sober up.
And you know, look at what they're bringing to this country.
If we end up with four more years of Trump,
he may never leave and he's going to destroy the
country with his tariffs. Who's going to pay the tariffs?
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What is this guy thinking? You think that the company
is not going to pass along the extra costs for
the tariff to the consumer. Of course he is. And
what is it going to have? Inflation that brought down
the nineteen twenty nine crash was caused by tariffs, and
everybody talked to any economists you want to talk to,
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that's what caused the laws that were passed that created
these artificial tariffs and destroyed our trade. So this is
this is the kind of thing that they're trying to do.
It's going to destroy this country, and everybody in these
jurisdictions where in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin and Michigan, you know,
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take it, you know, drink a cup of coffee, sober up,
and you know, don't be so angry, because good times
are coming for your children and grandchildren if we just
stay the course. Sixty five dollars oil oil was one
hundred dollars a barrel when Biden came in. And what
he did is he flooded the market with oil and
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he brought the price down into to seventy and anytime
it tried to go above it, he'd put more oil
into the system, and when it went lower, he'd buy oil.
Now he broke them. He got it down to sixty
five dollars a barrel. So these are the kind of
things that you have to think about. Inflation, it was
eleven percent when he came into office. What is it
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at now below three percent? I mean, look at the statistics.
What are people thinking? Why would you want to bring
this crazy guy back into office that all he wants
to do is lock everybody else up and fight his
petty fights. This man is not mentally stable and people
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need to take that into consideration when you're voting for him.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
And don't forget, and don't forget. Besides everything you just mentioned,
he's looking forward to financially benefiting from the present office,
especially now that again he's got unfettered immunity. Right, he
can do whatever he wants, including getting paid for pardons,
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getting paid for any kind of influence. You know, he
was doing this. There was allegedly he was doing some
of the stuff last time he was in office. And
so you know, again you have to just put aside
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the party because the Conservative what do you call it,
Republican Party is not what it was, let's say, ten
years ago. This is a different party with different agenda,
and they're not putting America first. They're putting themselves first.
And on top of that, they have justified that the
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means justify the result right, which means breaking the laws,
which means not cooperating with Congress. It just goes on
and on and on, and then we've already mentioned twenty
twenty five. There's also a clip where Trump tells a
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bunch of oil executives that you get me in office,
and I'll help you with not only drilling, getting rid
of getting rid of environmental restrictions, but making sure that
they can price the oil at whatever they want. So again,
these are things that you got to take into consideration
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when thinking about who you're going to vote for.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Basically, Trump is selling fear and greed. This is who
he is, fear and greed. He wants you all to
be afraid of the Democrats and Kamala Harris and what
they've done, which is great. I mean, why should we
be afraid of sixty five dollars oil and three percent inflation?
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Why there's no reason. What have they done except help
Americans and put us back on top. When Trump left office,
it was a wreck. A thousand people a day were
dying of COVID when he got out of there, and
you know, that was just the start of it, and
it was all turned around. People forget what success we've
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had over the last four years. You know, you know
when Trump is lying, his lips are moving right, this
is who this guy is.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Well, I mean he must not forget.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Say anything and do anything right.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
And some of the things that people are forgotten. Look,
the Trump likes to use immigrants and again especially the
undocumented immigrants, as some kind of scapegoat. And I think
that you mentioned this earlier. You know, he was the
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one that caused the immigration bill not to get past
when Republicans agreed it was the best bill they'd ever seen.
That's number one. Number two. When he was in office
last he hurt the American farmers. Why because they couldn't
find anybody to pick their crops. I believe at one
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point there was like twenty tons of food that had
gone unpicked because of this fear. And the whole thing
is is that, for Heaven's sakes, look at when you
when you when you look at the immigration situation, we
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have not had a bunch of issues with immigrants trying
to ruin America or take down America. We get that
from the Chinese, we get that from Russia, we get
that from we call it Ices and some of these
other radical people from the Middle East. The Mexican people. Again,
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I know we have immigrants from different what we call it,
Spanish speaking countries, but generally speaking, the Mexican people, the
immigrants here that we've had have been good. Yes, there
are always some who run red lights, who drink and drive,
who cause fights, but that's a very small percentage as
opposed to the people who work hard, they're trying to
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make their life better, they're sending money home. And I'm
not by you know, and I'm not saying, hey, they
should all just you know, we should just look the
other way. I'm just saying that there's a reasonable way
of giving these people. You and I've talked about this before.
Norm giving these people some kind of work to permit
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or visa so they can come in do the work
that we all want them to do, which is primarily
pick the crops and and do a lot of these
manual labors that that we as Americans don't want to
do anymore. And then by by laying by laying them
allowing them to have a permit or a visa, they
can be tracked, they can pay taxes, they they they
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can be part of the system versus being outside of
the system.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
So you know which, go ahead, go ahead. I'm sorry again.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
What I was going to finish saying is we have
to have a party. We have to have people in
Congress who are results or solution oriented and not people
who are just looking for their own interest trying to
keep power and just again distracting us with this crazy
ongoing bickery.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah, if you're a Latino, I just want to tell you,
if you're a working stiff Latino and you're out there
and you are documented or undocumented, basically Trump's going to
pass a stop in frisk law. And what it's going
to be is you're going to have to carry with
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you documentation and if you don't have documentation, and your
stop they're going to put you in a holding pen,
and he wants to lock up eleven million Latinos. So
you know, get your head examined. If you're a Latino,
you should be voting for Harris. You should hope that
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gotcha wins because what Trump has planned for Latinos is
something that no one should have planned for them, because
this is what he's gonna be. This is what he's proposed.
He's going to have holding pins for eleven million undocumented
personnel that have legitimate jobs, could have been here ten years.
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I mean, it doesn't matter. If there's going to be
no excuse for being in this country without coming in legally,
you're going to be You're going to be shipped out
and there's gonna be no ability to come back in.
This is what he's proposing for. If it's not for you,
if you're Latino, it's look down the road and look
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at the at the next Latino. It could be for
him or her.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
So if you're.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Voting and you're a citizen, vote for your your your neighbors,
and your friends who may not be because they're going
to be taken out of this country and it's going
to be something that's going to be awful to see
and we can't let that happen. And so every I
just urge all of the Latinos to vote for Harris,
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and she's going to be the one that'll will keep
them safe.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Right. And look, one of Trump's plans on that whole
immigration thing is he's been bragging and again Project twenty
twenty five also supports this that they want to do
massive deportation. One of the things that former President Trump
doesn't understand is the economy we have a or we
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profit from a lot of these Latinos, these non documented
as well as documented immigrants that come in here. If
you got rid of them, that's going to hurt the
hotel industry. And so what you just look at the
hotel industry, the restaurant industry, the landscaping industry, the agriculture industry. Now,
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if all of these quote immigrants were gone, you're going
to now replace these people with people who are going
to want higher wages for cleaning those rooms and picking
those crops and washing those dishes, and so now you're
looking at again all of those costs would be passed
down to consumers. So if you think going out to
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eat now is expensive. Wait till everybody in that restaurant
is making thirty forty dollars an hour because that's what
they demand in order to work at the restaurants.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Yeah, and you know, the one idea was good I
thought was, you know, not taxing gratuities. I thought that,
and I think Harris thought that was a good idea too,
and she adopted it. I mean, that's something at that
level of a server level and a hospitality and somebody
cleaning the rooms, why not if someone want to leave
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the gratuity, let them keep it. And so that's something
that that that's easily approves. I think I don't think
anybody's against it. It's not a lot of money that's
not being taxed, but it gives them, gives people working
at these levels on a little bit of of the
additional funds, so that's all good. I mean, they're going
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to be good a salary anyway. But you're right, there's
not couldn't be anybody left to do these jobs. They're
not going to show up at work because guess who's
gonna be there is Ice. Ice is going to be
the immigration police and they're gonna you know, raid hotels,
raid restaurants and take people away. I mean, this is
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what they're doing and putting them in holding pens. It's
frightening the things that he says he's going to do.
And it's something and let's.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Just and less and let's not forget. One of the
things that he's been saying lately is you that you
you don't even have to vote for me anymore. We're
gonna make it happen and this will be the you know,
I think he's said a couple of times, this will
be the last, the last time you have to vote,
and then he's now he's kind of changed that to
saying you won't even have to vote. And the reason
(20:47):
why they're saying this is because again a lot of
people don't know this. The Republican Party has filed numerous
lawsuits trying to change, uh, the the way ballots are
to be counted and and try to make it harder
for people to vote. They want to get rid of
mail in voting. They don't want the government to help
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facilitate the voting process. They're trying to restrict what the
government can do and say about voting, which is ridiculous,
but look it up, ladies and gentlemen, don't take my
word for it. Look at how many lawsuits the Republican
Party has filed just to try to change voting and
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voting rights. So this is like an all encompassing what
do you call it, multi level warfare.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yeah, there's at this point, and you know, my applause
go out to the people that are actually working the
voting boots and the polls. These workers who come out there,
I mean they're threatening them, yes, but yet they show
up anyway because of their civic duty and civic pride,
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and we should be glad that they show up and
legitimately count the votes and you have a full and
fair election because that's what they do. And you're on
the rolls and you're approved, you should be entitled to vote.
You know that you've proved your citizenship. You don't have
to carry around your birth certificate or a passport. Most
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people don't have passports. And so it's creating us will
create a serious problem for Latinos because they are going
to be segregated out for mass deportation. And so this
is I mean, people need to wake up. I mean,
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these are these are threats that are coming in fear
and greed. And the other end of it is greed.
You're right. You know everything's for sale. You want to
do business in the United States, you got to pay
him off. I mean, that's that's what it's. That's any
I don't think there's any secret about it. No about
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the money.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Now the Supreme Yeah, and now the Supreme Court has
put their stamp of approval on it, so he essentially
can do whatever he wants, including assassinate opponents, as long
as it's as long as it's an official act, it's
good to go.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Yeah. And you know, this is what they're saying. I've
never I mean I read the Constitution. There's nothing in
there about executive privilege. Doesn't talk about that. You know,
the idea that for your access president, you're immune from
prosecution if it's a criminal act. No, there's nothing, and
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it they just made it up right, and that that's
the frightening part of it is the structure of the
government in the court system, and we want to take
it to the executive branch in the army is going
to be the one of a dictatorship. That's where he's headed.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
And again, if you look at that project twenty twenty five,
I'm so grateful that these people printed this up and
circulated it because it really shows you what they want
to do with the military. They want you know, they
they have just really radical ideas. And speaking of the military,
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look how many top military personnel have said they either
won't work with Trump or that Trump is unfit, that Trump,
you know, has many issues when it comes to separating
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right from wrong. And these are people who have worked
with them. Never, never have we had so many people
tell you that a president is unfit and these are
people who have worked with them. It's not his opponents,
it's people who are from his party that actually worked
for him. We're talking. It's something like eighty percent have
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come out against former President Trump. That to me is crazy,
unprecedented to have that level or yeah, that percentage, that
high level of that high percentage of people telling you
that their former boss is not a good person, is
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not a good leader. People need to wake up and listen.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yeah, and you know, it just comes back to me
at the end of the day. You know, Biden's stepped away,
I mean from who would step away from their job
because the country. He put the country first, right, and
now it's up to Harris is the get the ball
over the goal line and score here. And I think
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she's one to do it. I think she can take
him on. She's a prosecutor, she knows what to do.
And he'll be all over her physically and emotionally to
try to break her. There's no doubt about that. And
she needs to stand firm and you know, have him
stand in his place and call him for what he is.
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He's a liar, he know stuff up. It's just everything
he says is a lie. And you know, the economy
people would just step back and smell the roses. The
economy is doing well. People are doing well, and there
are some that have gotten through the safety net, and
(26:51):
you know something needs to be said about and I
don't know if it's going to be brought up now.
It's a homeless situation. That's you know, a situation where
the something needs to be done to help them. You know,
we need some type of urban core that to help
these people and get them back on their feet and
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and and but you know there needs to be to
be something done, but it's never mentioned. Hopefully somebody will
talk about that tonight, right.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Right, I'll tell you what so so we have a gentleman.
His name is Alan Lichtmann l C H T M
A N. He is a professor I forgot for what university.
This guy has predicted the nine the ten presidents. So
(27:42):
he's got a ninety percent success track. Yeah, percent success.
He's predicting that Harris will win. So I'm hoping that
he's right. I think that we have again, I think
something like two or three hundred Republicans, including Liz Cheney,
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who Liz Cheney is hardcore conservative, but she's a true conservative.
She's a true Republican. She put the country first before
her party, and so you have her and like I said,
probably two hundred other Republicans who are supporting Harris. This
is how bad Trump is.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Yeah, No, Harris has to leave it all on the
field tonight. I mean basically, she's just got to go
after him. He is weak, you know, all dictators when
you when you show them, we show them up for
the truth, they'll fold. And this is what she has
to do. He is weak and he and he needs
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to be attacked, you know, basically, and they can. He
has all these weak spots that we bring up and
we talk about, and Harris has to carry the ball
over the finish line, and you know she has to
score because she's behind. I mean, there may be some
predictions that she's going to win, but you know, the
(29:06):
polls say that in the because it's you know, she'll
windley a popular vote, but that's not necessarily going to
carry her in the electoral votes. And all these states
that you know make the difference. And so everybody's got
to turn out and vote for Harris and hope that
she delivers tonight because I think that this is this
(29:28):
is the last chance that go toe to toe, and
you know, he'll run back into his corner and talk
about how he's won everything and how wonderful he is.
But the truth will be in the performance tonight, and
you know, you know, I'm hoping that she can she
can take him.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I think she will. I think she has a couple
of things that she has in her favors. She is
much younger, she is a very sharp she seems to
be pretty fast on her feet. I think she will
outperform him tonight. Look, here's what's so funny. When she
(30:10):
was first what do you call it, nominated as the
presidential nominee, instead of him attacking her for her skill
set or maybe some of her mistakes or something like that.
He comes out and starts attacking her on her race.
(30:33):
You know that she wasn't really black until she started
running for president. Things that really have no bearing on
a candidate, whether they're black or white, brown, who what,
what do they stand for? How are they going to
help our country? How are they going to help the
citizens of this country? That's what matters. And so the
I think for the first month or two all he
(30:55):
could talk about is she's not really black. It just
goes to show you how weak is his pision is,
how weak his campaign is, that he's attacking somebody on
their race.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Yeah, you know, I just think that if you look
at what has happened over the last four years, the
Biden should be proud of what he's done. Unemployments below
four percent and going down. Inflation's below three percent and
going down. Oil prices are below sixty five dollars a
(31:28):
barrel and going down. The sales of electric vehicles and
use of solar energy and solar batteries are going up.
And she's got to stand there and go toe to
toe with him and make no apologies for where we
are sure everybody's not done when we have to do more,
(31:53):
that's for sure, and make sure that we don't leave
anybody behind. But at this point in time, for everybody
out there, if he comes into office and things start
to go sideways with these tariffs, the first thing they're
going to do companies is tighten their belt. Interest rates
(32:14):
will go up again and they'll stop trying to work
on AI. When they stop work on AI and all
these stocks that are leading the tech revolution on the
stock market, the market will crash. And if you bring
Trump in, that's what you're going to have. Look at
your four h one case and where they are today,
(32:35):
because if he gets in office, they aren't going to
be half of what they are. And that's what you're
up against because he'll be corrupt. The same thing happened
in Venezuela, the same thing happened in Argentina. This is
where dictators come in and the countries fall apart. And
it's really that serious. This man should not be in office.
(32:59):
He's gotten into offices because everybody's afraid of him. In
the Republican primaries, and he's able to get thirty five
percent of the Republican vote and was able to knock
out anybody that went against them, and they are all
living political political fear of Trump.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Right. And by the way, let's not forget that one
of the trials, this criminal trial where he was indicted
or he was found guilty thirty four times. This was
a lot of people think that it's a hush money case. Yes,
that was just one of the elements. But he paid
(33:40):
a media outlet to catch negative stories and kill them.
He also paid the same media outlet, the National Inquirer,
to post stories that were completely fake about his opponent.
This guy is diabolical. He is not here to play
(34:01):
by any set of moral rules. He will cheat, he
will lie, he will steal if it puts him in power.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Yeah, and I think people have to wake up, you know,
smell the coffee. This is serious. I mean, your vote
is serious here, and that the idea that well, I'm
gonna vote for Trump and let him stir it up.
We've already tried that once and we ended up with
COVID killing over a million people. Because he he ended
(34:30):
up he couldn't do anything. He wanted to inject everybody
with chlorox. I mean, this is what the guy thinks.
I mean, he's mentally not all there.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Right, Well, it's not. It's not just it's not it's
not just that you know, I don't. I don't personally
blame him for brainstorming goofy ideas. But the thing that
we must remember is this guy is unethical. Right. It
was reported time and time again that if you spend
(35:03):
enough money at the Trump Hotel in Washington, DC, he
would make an appearance for your party. There are a
lot of foreign dignitaries that booked and paid beyond the
going price for his hotel rooms so they could influence
him or get him to do stuff for them. There
(35:25):
was a lawsuit that was brought regarding this, and because
he lost the election, the Supreme Court didn't rule on it.
They said, since he lost the election, it's moot. And
I thought that was very lazy of them. But either way,
it goes back to show you that right now your
vote is super important. We have a questionable, if not corrupt,
(35:51):
Supreme Court. We have a gentleman who has shown time
and time again he cannot be trusted that a large
percentage of people that are work for him do not
find him credible or trustworthy. You do not want this
individual in power. You don't want him close to anything
that would smell like power. And the fact that he's
(36:14):
got this weird stranglehold on the Republican Party, it just
goes to show you that the Republicans have become very
weak to give into his demands.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Well, you know, I think this idea that the economy
is weak is a false is false. They've just made
this up and everybody's buying into it, and it's false.
Look at the facts, and the facts are unemployments under
four percent, inflations under three percent, oils under sixty five
(36:52):
dollars of barrow, and people are working. So think where
you were four years ago and where you are today,
and how much more you're making now. And prices are
coming down and inflation's coming down, and interest rates are
coming down, and the stock market's going up. The stock
market tells, there's there's nothing more more truth than the
(37:16):
stock market. The stock market tells you if we're doing
well or we're not. And the stock market says we're
doing just fine, and so broke.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Don't fix it, right, And not to mention, let's not
forget this very vital point, Norman, that is that the
Biden Herr's administration. Uh and and right now the Hera's campaign.
She actually has different strategies to improve America, to get
(37:47):
more people working, to get the cost of living down.
Trump has no such plans. His main thing is he
deserves to be in power and then he deserves to
it to go after his opponents. That's basically it. Even
hardcore conservatives have mentioned the fact that he's got no plan,
(38:12):
he's got no real policies in place to help America
become stronger and better.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
And the idea, you know, some type of gun control
on AR fifteen's and in this country and background checks
needs to come in. Seventy percent of the people want
to see that happen. And this is something. And when
there's these killings that's the most recent one at school,
(38:38):
you know, Vance comes in and goes, well, we just
have to get used to it. We don't have to
get used to it. Right, there's a law that can
be passed that can keep guns away from fourteen year olds.
I mean, come on, I mean.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Really, and look what the prosecutors are now doing. They've
stepped up their game and they're going after these parents
who are being negligent with their children. And the guns.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Yeah, and again before it happened, the police interviewed the
father and he says, well, you know, I taught him
about how to be safe with guns, and they walked
away because children can have guns. Really, is that where
we are? I mean, come on, I mean at the
end of the day, you know, we have to make
(39:26):
the world a little bit safer from everybody having an
AR fifteen.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
An AR fifteen that the that the average person really
does not need.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
No, it's a military weapon and you really don't need
it unless you want to, you know, kill other people.
I mean, that's basically what it's good for. And so
this is what people think about. But people nobody wants that.
So you know, you need to have background checks. There's
responsible people that can have guns that they want, but
(40:01):
not people that have mental illness problems and not juveniles
that can't happen. But the Trump administration they don't care
about this, doesn't you know. They get their money from
the NRA and they're happy to have it and do
their bidding. Same thing with the oil companies the same way.
So this is where you know, everything will go backwards again.
(40:23):
You can start spinning the clock back. If Trump gets
re elected. It's a frightening thought.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Absolutely, absolutely, Norm. It's good to have you here. We
appreciate you fighting the good fight, and we look forward
to having you back again.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Yeah, sure, Bert, And hopefully we'll see what happens tonight.
You know, we're the underdog and we got to be
in there. And hopefully Harris will leave it all in
the game.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
I bet you, I bet you she will. I think
that the I know that the citizens in the United
States are looking forward to this debate. They're they're looking
forward to watching Trump get squashed. I think the world
in general are going to be looking at this debate.
It's probably going to have some huge numbers on it.
(41:12):
And and I'm looking forward to it and and I
can't wait to get you back and talk about it.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Okayper at all the best?
Speaker 2 (41:19):
All right, good stuff there from Norm Blumenthal. Norm Blumenthal
is an attorney for workers and consumers. If you want
to find out more about Norm, you can go to
bamlaw c A dot com. Bamlaw c a dot com.
I don't know, maybe you think we are just too liberal.
That's what it is. These guys are soft and uh
(41:39):
if that's if that's your your take by all means,
send me a message, let me know what you agree with,
what you disagree. You don't need to be hateful about it,
but an intelligent comment disagreeing is always welcome. Just understand
that uh the uh, the America that we love is
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in the balance. This is a vote for America, not
for a Republican, not for a Democrat, but for keeping
America safe. Please share this episode with everyone you know.
Please vote, and let's keep America free. Remember you were
(42:30):
created to succeed.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
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