August 7, 2024 • 45 mins
Norm Blumenthal - an attorney for workers and consumers. Selected as one of the Top Attorneys in Southern California. Norm was inducted and recognized as one of America's Most Trusted Lawyers in Employment Law.
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Today on the show, Lawyer Norm Blumenthal. Norm Blumenthal is
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an attorney for workers and consumers, selected as one of
the top attorneys in Southern California. Norm was also inducted
and recognized as one of America's most trusted lawyers and
employment law Norm Blumenthal, Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Nice to be back, Bert. A lot has happened in
the last month of the time we talked. You know,
it's been a sea change politics. They say every day
is like a year, and it's it's certainly held up
in this last thirty days we have Joe Biden has
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decided not to run. Kamala Harris has become the Democratic
dominee and she's picked him Walt as her running mate.
And I think that the latest news on Walts he's
going to be the kind of guy that you want
in there. He's from he farm a farming community. He
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has defeated Republicans for a seat when he went to
Congress who had been there forever, and he knows how
to relate to the people. He's a populist personality, and
I think we're really going to like him. It's a good,
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good addition to the ticket. And I think we're on
our way. So today I wanted to present I have
some fun and present some hypotheticals if Trump were to
win or if Harris is to win. So the first
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one I'd like to take, you know, and my concept
is I always tell my kids, you know, we're not
going to reward bad behavior, and so that's the concept
that we've we've lived with and I think it applies
to this election more than anything else. So let's take
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the hypothetical where Trump is re elected and he is
now my grandson comes up to me and says, what happened,
And I said, well, Trump got re elected and there
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hasn't been an election since twenty twenty four. That was
the election because on the first day in office, he
declared himself to be a dictator for life, and he's
been in there ever since. And so we ended up
where the laws didn't apply anymore, and we've been living
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in this trailer park ever since. Because he destroyed the economy.
He ended up taking the national debt and turned it
into bitcoins. So instead of getting money for investing in
treasuries on getting an interest on it, payment on it
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in terms of dollars, the dollar was destroyed and everybody
was getting bitcoins, and there was bitcoins were just backed
up by more bitcoins, so whenever you needed anything, you'd
have to use bitcoins. But people stopped accepting bitcoins, so
it ended up that all the money that was there
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was worthless, and we were in a situation where he
ended up people. You ended up or my grandchildren, because
they passed a law that nobody was entitled. No women
was entitled to make her own decisions with regard to
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her health needs. Your girlfriend was pregnant, you had the baby,
You couldn't go to college, She couldn't go to college.
You couldn't get the education you needed for a good job.
And now you're both out on the street, you know,
delivering newspapers. And so this is where we how we
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ended up here because we didn't follow the rule is
not to reward bad behavior, and we ended up voting
for a lying, cheating felon and so we should know better,
but this is how we ended up. So that's one scenario.
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Let's take another scenario. Harris is elected and they passed
the law immediately that women have the right to choose
whether or not they want to continue with the pregnancy.
There's in vitro fertilization, and they people that couldn't have
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children ended up being able to have children. The tax
code was modified so that we ended up balancing the
budget with the passage of various tax legislation to allow
for a balanced budget where there was a minimum tax,
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and taxes were taken out with regard to the payroll
tax increased for everybody the payroll tax but those that
were below the poverty line that didn't have to pay it,
and education was subsidized and we've country thrived and the
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debt was taken care of. And that's what Harris was
able to do when she came into office. And so
this is what we can expect when you vote for
someone and you don't reward their behavior.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I like that, and I think the reality is both
of those scenarios are totally viable. You have. Let's go
a little bit deeper this Project twenty twenty five. If
you guys don't know what Project twenty twenty five, look
it up. It's roughly thing's about two or three hundred pages. Anyway,
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in there daily out the MAGA Republicans, the far right
radical have laid out their plan. So they want to
strip away a bunch of different rights. They want to
roll back. Norman and I were talking about this before
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the show. It's like they want to do a time
work and send us back to the nineteen forties or
thirties or twenties where women had limited rights. You know,
the days were were a or essentially outlawed. You know.
They they have so many radical ideas that it should
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scare anybody. And the authors of the Project twenty twenty five,
I think eighty percent of them have worked for Trump before.
These are Trump loyalists, and so they think that Trump
is awesome and walks on water. And this plan, this
twenty twenty five project, is so radical that that Trump
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himself has tried to distance himself from it. It is
it is startling to me. It is shocking that a
group of adults got together and said this is how
we want to tweak America. And I think, just real quick,
I think that in my in my vision of a
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Trump presidency, to your point of being a dictator, I
think he would get rid of the Constitution. I think
he would get rid of the Supreme Court. He would,
I think he would. He would mirror what Hugo chav
has did in Venezuela, and Hugo Chava is just again
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a real quick history. Hugo Chava has tried to take
over the government in Venezuela by force. He lost, he
was incarcerated, he somehow got release, ran for the presidency, won,
and then from there dismantled the government.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, I think you're you're pretty much on point. Venezuela
is one of the large was one of the largest
oil producers in the world at the time. It was
a democracy. When Hugo Chavez came in, people that the
country was strong, the economy was strong, and he came
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in and put all of his loyalists into office. They
all were incompetent. They took over the oil and gas companies,
and they kicked out all of the international companies, and
they destroyed the Venezuelan currency, where it has been and
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is completely worthless and people are poor. This can happen,
and don't kids yourself Project twenty twenty five. The first
thing they want to do is get out of office
all the bureaucrats and in their place put in Trump
loyal as. Just the same thing that happened in Venezuela,
and it happened in Argentina. In Argentina, before the Second
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World War, the strongest economy in the world was Argentina
because like the United States then it was on the
gold standard and Perone came in and he started printing
money and he destroyed the value of the currency and
Argentina has never recovered. So it is a real threat
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that if lying, cheating Felon becomes our president, we will
be in a position where he will destroy this country.
And he said he's going to end up taking the
debt and put it into bitcoins. So I didn't make
it up. You know, it's this is part of their
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plan and you know, and basically the wealthy will then
move their resources out of the country. So this is
something that can happen and people should be aware of it.
And if we want to keep our democracy, we have
to vote for someone that we can trust someone that
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follows the law, someone that has respect to the law,
someone that is not a felon, and someone that's not
a liar. And so this is and we should not
reward bad behavior. This is Trump is someone that in
the world at large, you know, as just a regular person,
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would never be in any office and would never run
a company. And everything he's run, he's bankrupted. So to
think that he wouldn't bankrupt the country, I'm afraid that
you're being naive, right.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
And and and not only has has uh Trump not
been not been successful truly successful in running companies, but
the companies that have been successful are companies that he
wasn't running on a day to day basis. Think about
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that the he lost not one, but two casinos. You
know how difficult it is to lose money in the
casino industry. And and and again to your point, I mean,
we're we're talking about, uh, a long history of failures
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that left people in some cases destroyed people in the wake. Right, Uh,
this is not uh, this is not an individual that
that has a a history of real success. Number one, Look,
everybody is entitled to failure. That is just part of
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the journey to success. However, it's not what you do,
but how you do it, uh, and when you know
and look, here's a perfect example. Look, let's look at
his latest thing, which is truth social that got uh
that went public with that, that spac company, the the
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people who made that happen. H are are are our
individuals who who came to Trump with The idea wasn't
something that Trump came up with. And and the the
minute that that he was that he said, yeah, I
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want to get involved in this spac The first thing
he wanted to do is there is the two people
that made all this happened. These were contestants on the
Apprentice and the first thing that Trump wanted to do
was to get rid of these two guys and essentially
take away their shares. Here's a guy that just has
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no concept of other people, has no concept of gratitude.
Over and over again we see that he cannot accept
fault for anything. It's just the list of his The
list is long.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Go ahead, Yeah, you know, you just have to look
at it and people have to sober up and look
what he stands for. There is a little TikTok that's
out that white guys for Harris and his fellows, you know,
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in his cowboy hat and boot and cowboy type guy
and you know, gun carrying, and he says, you know,
all of this he can't face. He couldn't face his
children and grandchildren if he voted for Trump, because it's
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just you can't have one set of values but then
change your values for someone that is a lying, cheating felon.
And that's who Trump is. He's a lying, cheating felon,
and he has no loyalty to his country. He's bankrupted
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every company he's been in. He's never been successful at
He's has judgments against him for mismanagement and fraudulent management
of his company in New York in the hundreds of millions.
He's been convicted of thirty four felony account in New York,
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and he has other lawsuits that he's facing. If this
doesn't tell you something, then I don't know. What does
you know? He lost the twenty twenty election, but he
won't admit it. There's been I don't know, more than
fifty lawsuits. His own attorney general said there was no
evidence of fraud. Bill Barr and he wouldn't accept that.
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So it's just they live in a world that's a
fantasy world and they expect people to buy it, and
people have to get back to reality. This man and
he faces the same problems that Biden faced with his
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age and mental acuity. It's just you know, it's not there.
So if you were not going to vote for Biden
because of his age, he certainly shouldn't vote for Trump
because of his age, because he's the oldest person ever
to run for office. So you know, people have to
wake up and this is our chance, or maybe our
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last chance to save democracy. And I don't think I
think he will destroy it because there is provisions in
the law under the Insurrection Act that he could declare
if he gets into office, that he could declare that
there's people out there that are going to start an
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insurrection and call up the military to keep and postpone
all future elections while he's around, and this will create
havoc and no one's going to be putting their money
in the world. We sell all of our debt. We
have thirty five trillion dollars in debt, and people buy
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it is because where the Fiat currency, and they trust
the United States is a democracy that it won't be
another Venezuela. It won't be another Argentina that it will
remain strong. If it doesn't, people will move their money
to the British pounds or the Canadian dollar. So don't
think we're the only country out there that has a
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currency that people can trust. And so it's a dangerous
time for all of us. And we have to be
in a position where we our vote counts, everybody votes,
votes counts. Because Harris has to win by a landslide,
She has to win by so many votes that he
can't even begin to challenge the results of the election.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Well, unfortunately, I think whether she wins by a landslide
or not, he's going to come out with the lie
that he lost because of fraud, which he's already said.
He's already said that at a couple of his rallies.
The only way I can lose is if they cheat
and to fraud. Right, And so here's the guy that
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that lives in his own little world. Not only not
only did Attorney General Barr said that that Trump was wrong,
that there was no fraudulent voting. Uh, he also pointed
out that in the wake of Trump, that the body
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count is in the hundredths right that you look at,
everybody connected with Trump is either being indicted, is already
serving prison. They've lost their their career. I mean, you
look at all the attorneys that have been disbarred and
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and it lists is incredible. And back to this project
twenty twenty five. All all I, all, I. You know,
one of the things that I looked at is you.
First of all, you have the Heritage Foundation, that's the
people behind it. You have president from the Heritage Foundation.
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I think his name is Kevin Roberts. This guy is
He's not a conservative. He's a radical right type of guy.
Just like there's some radical left. This guy's radical right.
And anybody who associates this is my opinion, anybody who
associates with Steve Banyon, to me, that's all I need
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to know. And this guy was on Steve Banyon's podcast,
and this is some of the people that are aligned
with this project twenty twenty five. In case you don't
know who Steve Banyon is, he was the strategist that helped.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Trump.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
He also was put in charge of building the wall,
where I believe he he stole or allegedly stole, like
a million dollars Trump gave him a pardon. I believe
on on that on the wall stuff. But he ended
up he's currently serving prison time because he refused to
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uh cooperate with the Senate uh their congressional investigation of
January sixth. I believe that that's why he's serving time.
These are people that that that again talk about law
and order, they talk about family, but yet you got
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to see what they're doing. So they're they're literally destroying families.
They want to they want to eliminate uh, not only
women's ability to control their bodies, but they wanted they're
attacking families by trying to make I v app in
uh illegal. They talk about, hey, we're the we're the
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party of of of law order, but yet you look
at how many of them have snubbed their nose at
subpoenas and how much they try to interfere in in
justice being served. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah, I think you know, you can look at all
of this, but at the end, he's a liar, he's
a felon, and he's a cheater, and so you know,
you have to look at the personality of the person
you're going to vote for, and especially Republicans. Republicans you know,
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you would think that they want they would want to
protect the value of the currency and put someone in
an office that would be strong. And and remember Clinton
was the last president that balanced the budget with the
help of George H. W. Bush, who was voted out
of office. But the end of the day, we're going
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to have to deal with our debt. And the idea
that Trump has come up with is after going to
the crypto convention, is well, we'll just put it into bitcoins. Well,
if you follow anything about bitcoins, bitcoins is a myth.
There's no value in a bitcoin. There's nothing to back
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it up. It's like putting your money into a peso
from Venezuela or one from Argentina. There's no value. And
so it's frightening. It's that a president can talk about
doing this, because he will destroy this country's value and
everything that everybody stands for. So if you're a registered
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card carrying a Republican, the last person on Earth you'd
want to put into office would be Trump. And so
you know, the people need to think about this. We
need to have integrity in the presidential office. Someone we
have here in Harris and Walls as people of integrity.
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They follow the law. They were district attorney, she was
a attorney general. She was a district attorney. She follows
law and order. And basically the Democrats are the law
and order party. The Republicans are basically. Trump has turned
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them into a Trump party. They're not even I wouldn't
even classify them as I can classify them more as
a mob and a gang than a party. And I
feel I cannot understand how he gets any votes at
all based on who he is and what he stands
for and what he's done, because there's nothing good that's
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going to happen when he comes into office for this
country and for our economy, and forget about climate change. Yeah,
he's going to throw all of that out.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
And yeah, that's a good point. They want to eliminate
all all environmental protections. They Bargeict twenty twenty five. Folks,
check it out. Yes, they want to eliminate all environmental protection.
Whether you believe in climate change or not, eliminating all
environmental protection to me is again radical, It's just over
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the top unnecessary.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Yeah. You know, people that I've talked to in terms
of fires in California, they've never seen anything like this before.
In their lifetime, and it's it basically is part of
of that. You know, the next next extinction is the
fact that the forests will all burn. And when the
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forests burn and it creates you know, worldwide dust all
over the place. And but and there's no tree just
to help produce oxygen. And so we're in a serious
environmental problems that requires the country to work. And Biden,
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to his credit, has passed legislation to environmental legislation to
help us turn our at least our vehicles into using
solar and our power plants to be on solar with
battery storage so that base you'll not need any natural
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gas or oil. We can wean ourselves off of it
and help wean the world off of it before it's
too late. And I mean, people, I've never seen anything
like it a mile. I've never seen temperatures like this
or fires like this, and it's frightening and it's happening
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that we have hurricanes and we've never had hurricanes like
this before. So you know, Trump gets elected, you know
what is this? His thing is drill, baby, drill, That's
what he wants to talk about. We're already the largest
producer of oil and gas in the world, you know.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Right, and look to your point, So they want to
they want to take away all the environmental protection.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
There is a video where Trump is talking to the
oil industry and basically he says, hey, give me a
billion dollars and you can have whatever you want. And
I'm paraphrasing, but he literally said, give me a billion dollars. Uh.
And and he's just going to open up everything to them. Uh.
And and and not only not only are to your
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point of the trees disappearing, but we're talking about just uh,
fresh drinking water would eventually disappear because everybody would be
allowed to dump in the ocean and into the rivers.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, there's there's no bottom to his ability to do
anything for money. Apparently he's under investigation or was under
investigation for taking ten million dollars from the Egyptian president
if he won the election, pocketed ten million dollars, you know,
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but that's bill Barr refused to prosecute. But there is
real evidence of that crime. I mean, it's one after
the other. So the whole office of presidency will be
for sale, and no one will stop him because everybody's
working for the government has to sign a pledge to
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Trump to be a Trump loyalist. And this is where
we are. I can't you know, when I have this conversation,
I can't believe I'm having it.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Right Well, in your lifetime, just out of the craziest
imagination possible. Would you ever think that our Supreme Court
would say a president has almost total immunity, so sooner
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or later? And this is this is what it would
happen if Trump gets into office. As long as it's
an official act he is, he has total immunity, even
though it might be illegal. As long as he says
it's an official act, you know he's going to get
away with it. So he could accept bribes, which you
know he accepted bribes before through his hotel if you
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wanted to, if you wanted to give him money, you
would take out his hotel there in Washington, DC and
pay crazy amounts of money and he would show up
to your party or event or meet with you. So
could you imagine Trump, who has been very very difficult
to hold account dountable, once he gets in an office where
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he almost cannot be held accountable, there's nothing stop him
in stopping him. I mean never never did I imagine
in my wildest dreams that our Supreme Court would say
would side with Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah, you know, there's nowhere in the Constitution, and I'd
searched for it anything about the president having immunity for
official acts. In fact, he cannot fight wars without congressional approval,
and that approval can be for no more than two
years at a time. So they're very clear in the
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Constitution that they don't want him to be a king
or her to be a queen. They just came off
of a revolution because they were living with a king
who was taking their money in taxes and they had
no representation, no taxation without representation, and that's what was
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going on and created the revolution in this country. And
they were very careful in crafting the constitution that there
would be a person in power that would have any
immunity whatsoever from official acts for official acts. And this
is just frightening what this Court has done. And it's
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going to require legislation to take the power away from
the Court, which you can do. You can limit the
Supreme Court's power under the Constitution with the simple vote
of Congress and the signature of the President and that's
what has to happen to control the Supreme Court or
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apparently members of it appear to be for sale themselves,
you know, with junkets by political groups that they support.
So this is you know, if the whole we have
a whole corrupt, rotten to the corps group that if
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they came into office and had power, they're going to
just take it very well, in my opinion, destroy this country.
And that's why the reason I say that that Harris
has to win by a landslide is at that point
in time, the Supreme Court can't come back and test
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the victory because it would be so great that there
would be no rational way to say that the election
would be would have changed if one state or two
states electoral votes were not counted, right, So, and you're right,
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absolutely correct. Yeah, we really need that, We need everybody's vote.
It's just and everybody needs to get out there and
vote for Harris Walts Walls and just so that they
can tell their children that they were on the right
side of history. And that's where you want to be.
It should be personal. It is personal, and people should
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consider it as personal. And this is all you got
is your right to vote. And even in states like California, everybody,
it's got to be a landslide, you know, it's just
got to be in every state. Everybody has to vote
for Harris Waltz Well.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
And to your point, you have several Republican groups and
conservative groups that have come out publicly and said that
Trump is not fit to be the nominee, He's not
fit to be the president. And they've taken it one
step further and they are voting for Harris. They are
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supporting Harris not only with votes, but with finance, with
financial donations. And I think that tells you a lot.
When the Republicans are fighting, you know, the Republicans are
having their own civil war, if you will. And there
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is a large group of Republicans who are now supporting
Harris because Trump is such a poor choice.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah, And I think it's starting with the country club Republicans.
They're going to be the first one to realize that
you can't vote for a liar or cheating the felon
and put him into office and expect him to do
something different. You know. It's the old story of the
scorpion and the frog that Aristotle used to talk about
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and basically the scorpions and the frog were out on
a sandbar and in a in a river, and uh,
the tide came in and they couldn't get the shore,
and the frog was going to hop in, and the
scorpion said, oh, frog, oh frog, please give me a
ride back to the shore. And the frog said, well,
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I don't know about that. You're a scorpion. Why would
I ever trust you. Well, you trust me because you're
gonna save my life. I'm gonna you're gonna you're gonna
save my life. Okay, the frog says, hop on my back.
He gets them to the shore and he feels the
sting on his neck and he goes, oh, scorpion, what
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have you done? You just killed me. He goes, well,
it's hard for anybody to change their nature, right, and
that's what you have here. Trump's not gonna change his nature.
He's a liar, he's a cheat, he's a felon. And
everybody has to wake up. And you can't wake up
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and say, hey, I'm going to go to the poll
and vote for a liar, a cheat, and a felon
and an old one at that right right, and.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Look to me, the age, you know, the age Mayor.
You know, may Or may not come into play, but
his character is front and center. The character. Yeah, his character.
He is the scorpion. We are the frogs. He will
sting us and we will all die. That's that's really
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what's going to happen. And and again, if you look
at the amount of Republicans that are supporting a Democrat,
never in our lifetime have we seen so many Republicans
go against their party and vote for a Republican. That's
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that's he has to tell you everything you need to know.
The other thing some some of the other highlights. You know,
people people were were saying have told me that they
didn't care that much that Trump had sex with a
porn star or with the playboy bunny. Uh, you know
that that's that those events are between Trump and his wife,
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and for the most part, I agree with that. However,
what what should be shocking is that he got in
cahoots with a trusted media company and was paying this
media company to kill stories that that would make him
look bad. Again some of the stories that they that
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they bought and killed. It was catch and kill, was
the was the phrase. Were the playboy bunny story was
a porn star story, there was other ones, and then
he then he would also pay the same media outlet
to make derogatory statements or make up stories for any
of his opponents. And so one of the stories that
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they that they concocted was that mister Carson, who was
a doctor, had left sponges or utensils inside somebody's head.
And so interestingly enough, the president of that media outlet
actually grew a conscience and and and woke up to
the fact that wait a minute, this could be illegal,
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and I don't want to do something. I don't I
don't want to cross that line. So he stopped doing it.
But that was before they cap they caught and killed.
I don't know how many stories and how many made
up stories they put out there to hurt people. So
you're looking at a guy that that it's one thing
to do a little white life, it's another thing two buy,
(38:52):
you know, to to bribe media companies to make up
stories to hurt people intentionally. And again, another of my
favorite things that Trump has done. I say favorite because
it's it's it's just again a shock, you know. Again,
(39:13):
when you're selling something, it is very common to use puffery. Hey,
this is the world's greatest whatever, right, world's greatest pizza.
You can google that and you'll have a million pizza
companies come up. One of the things that Trump was
caught doing, it was is having to deal with that
right now, is that he inflated his properties. Not by
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a normal amount, which a lot of people will consider
a normal amount would be anywhere from ten to twenty percent,
but we're talking in some cases one thousand percent. His
own personal penthouse that he said was thirty thousand square
feet and worth three hundred million dollars was only ten
thousand square feet and not close and not even remotely
(39:59):
close to three hundred million dollars. So again, the track
record of this man's character is all you need to
focus on.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Right He's a liar, a cheat, and a felon, and
so that's all you have to know, and that the
examples of it are at nauseam. That's who he is.
He's a scorpion, and he's going to destroy the climate.
He's going to destroy the country, he's going to destroy
(40:27):
the economy all for his self aggrandizement. And he's too
old to do anything different. You can't teach an old
dog new tricks. And so this old dog is somebody
that we cannot put in office. And basically the wellbeing
of our us and our children and our grandchildren and
(40:51):
generations to come will depend on who you vote for
in this election. There's been nothing more important. And we
have to vote for Harris Waltz. And we need a
landslide so that the Supreme Court can't turn it around
because they are not to be trusted.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
No, it is, and I totally agree with you. I
like your idea. It has to be a landslide, so
it is clear and it's unequivocal.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Yeah, and maybe if we get enough in the polls
at the show that he's going to lose by ten
or twelve points, he'll drop out. The Republicans can put
somebody else up that that's not a liar or a
cheat or a felon. So we'll see what happens. But
every day counts, and you know, people who go to
(41:45):
the polls and get a polling information, it seems to
be fairly accurate. It's a close race right now. How
I don't know, but you know, you they're all there
are arguments that you know Biden was too old. Okay,
what did the Democrats do. They reacted to that. They
didn't sit back and say, we don't care. We'll go
(42:07):
down with the ship with this one. So we have
to show the Republicans that they're going to go down
with the ship if they continue to vote for Trump.
And that's what you're doing. He won't sit for a
debate with Harris. He's afraid the only place he'll go
is the confines of Fox News, where he owns everybody
(42:29):
and everything will be slanted in his favor. Well, she's
not going to do that. She's not going on the
sandbar with that scorpion. Not going to happen, you know,
you know, So everybody, please, you know, if you value
your family, if you value your finances, if you bind it,
(42:51):
value your health, and you know that's another thing. He
wants to get rid of Obamacare and every type of
and drug pricing. So it's just it's endless what you're
dealing with here, and so it shouldn't be close. It
just should not be close. So vote for Vote for
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someone that's honest and truthful and follows the law. Vote
for Harris Waltz.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
I agree with you. We'll end on that note. Norm,
Thank you so very very much, sir.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Okay, thank you. It's a pleasure, and we'll talk again
in the month, and I'm sure it's going to be
a wild month.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Yes, sir, good stuff there from Norm of Bloomin Thought.
Norm Blumentha is an attorney for workers and consumers like
you and I. You can check out Norm at Bam
law c A. That's Bam law c A. Again. I
have to get behind Norm on this one. We really
need a landslide victory. At first I didn't think we did,
(43:53):
but after listening to his logic, I totally agree that
we have to crush the Republicans. And I know that
if you're a Republican, voting for a Democrat seems unnatural,
maybe gives you the ickys the creepy crawleys. But please
(44:14):
consider the alternative. I'm asking you because our country is
in the balance, and please, let's share this episode with
everyone you know. Let's get everybody out there voting, and
let's make it a landslide victory. Not because Harris is
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so wonderful, but because Trump is so bad and we
need to protect our country. We need to take our
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employment law Norm Blumenthal, Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Nice to be back, Bert. A lot has happened in
the last month of the time we talked. You know,
it's been a sea change politics. They say every day
is like a year, and it's it's certainly held up
in this last thirty days we have Joe Biden has
(01:12):
decided not to run. Kamala Harris has become the Democratic
dominee and she's picked him Walt as her running mate.
And I think that the latest news on Walts he's
going to be the kind of guy that you want
in there. He's from he farm a farming community. He
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has defeated Republicans for a seat when he went to
Congress who had been there forever, and he knows how
to relate to the people. He's a populist personality, and
I think we're really going to like him. It's a good,
(01:54):
good addition to the ticket. And I think we're on
our way. So today I wanted to present I have
some fun and present some hypotheticals if Trump were to
win or if Harris is to win. So the first
(02:14):
one I'd like to take, you know, and my concept
is I always tell my kids, you know, we're not
going to reward bad behavior, and so that's the concept
that we've we've lived with and I think it applies
to this election more than anything else. So let's take
(02:36):
the hypothetical where Trump is re elected and he is
now my grandson comes up to me and says, what happened,
And I said, well, Trump got re elected and there
(02:58):
hasn't been an election since twenty twenty four. That was
the election because on the first day in office, he
declared himself to be a dictator for life, and he's
been in there ever since. And so we ended up
where the laws didn't apply anymore, and we've been living
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in this trailer park ever since. Because he destroyed the economy.
He ended up taking the national debt and turned it
into bitcoins. So instead of getting money for investing in
treasuries on getting an interest on it, payment on it
(03:39):
in terms of dollars, the dollar was destroyed and everybody
was getting bitcoins, and there was bitcoins were just backed
up by more bitcoins, so whenever you needed anything, you'd
have to use bitcoins. But people stopped accepting bitcoins, so
it ended up that all the money that was there
(04:01):
was worthless, and we were in a situation where he
ended up people. You ended up or my grandchildren, because
they passed a law that nobody was entitled. No women
was entitled to make her own decisions with regard to
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her health needs. Your girlfriend was pregnant, you had the baby,
You couldn't go to college, She couldn't go to college.
You couldn't get the education you needed for a good job.
And now you're both out on the street, you know,
delivering newspapers. And so this is where we how we
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ended up here because we didn't follow the rule is
not to reward bad behavior, and we ended up voting
for a lying, cheating felon and so we should know better,
but this is how we ended up. So that's one scenario.
(05:05):
Let's take another scenario. Harris is elected and they passed
the law immediately that women have the right to choose
whether or not they want to continue with the pregnancy.
There's in vitro fertilization, and they people that couldn't have
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children ended up being able to have children. The tax
code was modified so that we ended up balancing the
budget with the passage of various tax legislation to allow
for a balanced budget where there was a minimum tax,
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and taxes were taken out with regard to the payroll
tax increased for everybody the payroll tax but those that
were below the poverty line that didn't have to pay it,
and education was subsidized and we've country thrived and the
(06:13):
debt was taken care of. And that's what Harris was
able to do when she came into office. And so
this is what we can expect when you vote for
someone and you don't reward their behavior.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I like that, and I think the reality is both
of those scenarios are totally viable. You have. Let's go
a little bit deeper this Project twenty twenty five. If
you guys don't know what Project twenty twenty five, look
it up. It's roughly thing's about two or three hundred pages. Anyway,
(06:52):
in there daily out the MAGA Republicans, the far right
radical have laid out their plan. So they want to
strip away a bunch of different rights. They want to
roll back. Norman and I were talking about this before
(07:12):
the show. It's like they want to do a time
work and send us back to the nineteen forties or
thirties or twenties where women had limited rights. You know,
the days were were a or essentially outlawed. You know.
They they have so many radical ideas that it should
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scare anybody. And the authors of the Project twenty twenty five,
I think eighty percent of them have worked for Trump before.
These are Trump loyalists, and so they think that Trump
is awesome and walks on water. And this plan, this
twenty twenty five project, is so radical that that Trump
(08:03):
himself has tried to distance himself from it. It is
it is startling to me. It is shocking that a
group of adults got together and said this is how
we want to tweak America. And I think, just real quick,
I think that in my in my vision of a
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Trump presidency, to your point of being a dictator, I
think he would get rid of the Constitution. I think
he would get rid of the Supreme Court. He would,
I think he would. He would mirror what Hugo chav
has did in Venezuela, and Hugo Chava is just again
(08:49):
a real quick history. Hugo Chava has tried to take
over the government in Venezuela by force. He lost, he
was incarcerated, he somehow got release, ran for the presidency, won,
and then from there dismantled the government.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, I think you're you're pretty much on point. Venezuela
is one of the large was one of the largest
oil producers in the world at the time. It was
a democracy. When Hugo Chavez came in, people that the
country was strong, the economy was strong, and he came
(09:29):
in and put all of his loyalists into office. They
all were incompetent. They took over the oil and gas companies,
and they kicked out all of the international companies, and
they destroyed the Venezuelan currency, where it has been and
(09:49):
is completely worthless and people are poor. This can happen,
and don't kids yourself Project twenty twenty five. The first
thing they want to do is get out of office
all the bureaucrats and in their place put in Trump
loyal as. Just the same thing that happened in Venezuela,
and it happened in Argentina. In Argentina, before the Second
(10:13):
World War, the strongest economy in the world was Argentina
because like the United States then it was on the
gold standard and Perone came in and he started printing
money and he destroyed the value of the currency and
Argentina has never recovered. So it is a real threat
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that if lying, cheating Felon becomes our president, we will
be in a position where he will destroy this country.
And he said he's going to end up taking the
debt and put it into bitcoins. So I didn't make
it up. You know, it's this is part of their
(10:58):
plan and you know, and basically the wealthy will then
move their resources out of the country. So this is
something that can happen and people should be aware of it.
And if we want to keep our democracy, we have
to vote for someone that we can trust someone that
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follows the law, someone that has respect to the law,
someone that is not a felon, and someone that's not
a liar. And so this is and we should not
reward bad behavior. This is Trump is someone that in
the world at large, you know, as just a regular person,
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would never be in any office and would never run
a company. And everything he's run, he's bankrupted. So to
think that he wouldn't bankrupt the country, I'm afraid that
you're being naive, right.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
And and and not only has has uh Trump not
been not been successful truly successful in running companies, but
the companies that have been successful are companies that he
wasn't running on a day to day basis. Think about
(12:23):
that the he lost not one, but two casinos. You
know how difficult it is to lose money in the
casino industry. And and and again to your point, I mean,
we're we're talking about, uh, a long history of failures
(12:46):
that left people in some cases destroyed people in the wake. Right, Uh,
this is not uh, this is not an individual that
that has a a history of real success. Number one, Look,
everybody is entitled to failure. That is just part of
(13:06):
the journey to success. However, it's not what you do,
but how you do it, uh, and when you know
and look, here's a perfect example. Look, let's look at
his latest thing, which is truth social that got uh
that went public with that, that spac company, the the
(13:31):
people who made that happen. H are are are our
individuals who who came to Trump with The idea wasn't
something that Trump came up with. And and the the
minute that that he was that he said, yeah, I
(13:53):
want to get involved in this spac The first thing
he wanted to do is there is the two people
that made all this happened. These were contestants on the
Apprentice and the first thing that Trump wanted to do
was to get rid of these two guys and essentially
take away their shares. Here's a guy that just has
(14:19):
no concept of other people, has no concept of gratitude.
Over and over again we see that he cannot accept
fault for anything. It's just the list of his The
list is long.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Go ahead, Yeah, you know, you just have to look
at it and people have to sober up and look
what he stands for. There is a little TikTok that's
out that white guys for Harris and his fellows, you know,
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in his cowboy hat and boot and cowboy type guy
and you know, gun carrying, and he says, you know,
all of this he can't face. He couldn't face his
children and grandchildren if he voted for Trump, because it's
(15:17):
just you can't have one set of values but then
change your values for someone that is a lying, cheating felon.
And that's who Trump is. He's a lying, cheating felon,
and he has no loyalty to his country. He's bankrupted
(15:40):
every company he's been in. He's never been successful at
He's has judgments against him for mismanagement and fraudulent management
of his company in New York in the hundreds of millions.
He's been convicted of thirty four felony account in New York,
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and he has other lawsuits that he's facing. If this
doesn't tell you something, then I don't know. What does
you know? He lost the twenty twenty election, but he
won't admit it. There's been I don't know, more than
fifty lawsuits. His own attorney general said there was no
evidence of fraud. Bill Barr and he wouldn't accept that.
(16:24):
So it's just they live in a world that's a
fantasy world and they expect people to buy it, and
people have to get back to reality. This man and
he faces the same problems that Biden faced with his
(16:45):
age and mental acuity. It's just you know, it's not there.
So if you were not going to vote for Biden
because of his age, he certainly shouldn't vote for Trump
because of his age, because he's the oldest person ever
to run for office. So you know, people have to
wake up and this is our chance, or maybe our
(17:07):
last chance to save democracy. And I don't think I
think he will destroy it because there is provisions in
the law under the Insurrection Act that he could declare
if he gets into office, that he could declare that
there's people out there that are going to start an
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insurrection and call up the military to keep and postpone
all future elections while he's around, and this will create
havoc and no one's going to be putting their money
in the world. We sell all of our debt. We
have thirty five trillion dollars in debt, and people buy
(17:49):
it is because where the Fiat currency, and they trust
the United States is a democracy that it won't be
another Venezuela. It won't be another Argentina that it will
remain strong. If it doesn't, people will move their money
to the British pounds or the Canadian dollar. So don't
think we're the only country out there that has a
(18:12):
currency that people can trust. And so it's a dangerous
time for all of us. And we have to be
in a position where we our vote counts, everybody votes,
votes counts. Because Harris has to win by a landslide,
She has to win by so many votes that he
can't even begin to challenge the results of the election.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Well, unfortunately, I think whether she wins by a landslide
or not, he's going to come out with the lie
that he lost because of fraud, which he's already said.
He's already said that at a couple of his rallies.
The only way I can lose is if they cheat
and to fraud. Right, And so here's the guy that
(19:03):
that lives in his own little world. Not only not
only did Attorney General Barr said that that Trump was wrong,
that there was no fraudulent voting. Uh, he also pointed
out that in the wake of Trump, that the body
(19:25):
count is in the hundredths right that you look at,
everybody connected with Trump is either being indicted, is already
serving prison. They've lost their their career. I mean, you
look at all the attorneys that have been disbarred and
(19:46):
and it lists is incredible. And back to this project
twenty twenty five. All all I, all, I. You know,
one of the things that I looked at is you.
First of all, you have the Heritage Foundation, that's the
people behind it. You have president from the Heritage Foundation.
(20:06):
I think his name is Kevin Roberts. This guy is
He's not a conservative. He's a radical right type of guy.
Just like there's some radical left. This guy's radical right.
And anybody who associates this is my opinion, anybody who
associates with Steve Banyon, to me, that's all I need
(20:30):
to know. And this guy was on Steve Banyon's podcast,
and this is some of the people that are aligned
with this project twenty twenty five. In case you don't
know who Steve Banyon is, he was the strategist that helped.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Trump.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
He also was put in charge of building the wall,
where I believe he he stole or allegedly stole, like
a million dollars Trump gave him a pardon. I believe
on on that on the wall stuff. But he ended
up he's currently serving prison time because he refused to
(21:16):
uh cooperate with the Senate uh their congressional investigation of
January sixth. I believe that that's why he's serving time.
These are people that that that again talk about law
and order, they talk about family, but yet you got
(21:37):
to see what they're doing. So they're they're literally destroying families.
They want to they want to eliminate uh, not only
women's ability to control their bodies, but they wanted they're
attacking families by trying to make I v app in
uh illegal. They talk about, hey, we're the we're the
(21:58):
party of of of law order, but yet you look
at how many of them have snubbed their nose at
subpoenas and how much they try to interfere in in
justice being served. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah, I think you know, you can look at all
of this, but at the end, he's a liar, he's
a felon, and he's a cheater, and so you know,
you have to look at the personality of the person
you're going to vote for, and especially Republicans. Republicans you know,
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you would think that they want they would want to
protect the value of the currency and put someone in
an office that would be strong. And and remember Clinton
was the last president that balanced the budget with the
help of George H. W. Bush, who was voted out
of office. But the end of the day, we're going
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to have to deal with our debt. And the idea
that Trump has come up with is after going to
the crypto convention, is well, we'll just put it into bitcoins. Well,
if you follow anything about bitcoins, bitcoins is a myth.
There's no value in a bitcoin. There's nothing to back
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it up. It's like putting your money into a peso
from Venezuela or one from Argentina. There's no value. And
so it's frightening. It's that a president can talk about
doing this, because he will destroy this country's value and
everything that everybody stands for. So if you're a registered
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card carrying a Republican, the last person on Earth you'd
want to put into office would be Trump. And so
you know, the people need to think about this. We
need to have integrity in the presidential office. Someone we
have here in Harris and Walls as people of integrity.
(24:07):
They follow the law. They were district attorney, she was
a attorney general. She was a district attorney. She follows
law and order. And basically the Democrats are the law
and order party. The Republicans are basically. Trump has turned
(24:29):
them into a Trump party. They're not even I wouldn't
even classify them as I can classify them more as
a mob and a gang than a party. And I
feel I cannot understand how he gets any votes at
all based on who he is and what he stands
for and what he's done, because there's nothing good that's
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going to happen when he comes into office for this
country and for our economy, and forget about climate change. Yeah,
he's going to throw all of that out.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
And yeah, that's a good point. They want to eliminate
all all environmental protections. They Bargeict twenty twenty five. Folks,
check it out. Yes, they want to eliminate all environmental protection.
Whether you believe in climate change or not, eliminating all
environmental protection to me is again radical, It's just over
(25:26):
the top unnecessary.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Yeah. You know, people that I've talked to in terms
of fires in California, they've never seen anything like this before.
In their lifetime, and it's it basically is part of
of that. You know, the next next extinction is the
fact that the forests will all burn. And when the
(25:50):
forests burn and it creates you know, worldwide dust all
over the place. And but and there's no tree just
to help produce oxygen. And so we're in a serious
environmental problems that requires the country to work. And Biden,
(26:11):
to his credit, has passed legislation to environmental legislation to
help us turn our at least our vehicles into using
solar and our power plants to be on solar with
battery storage so that base you'll not need any natural
(26:34):
gas or oil. We can wean ourselves off of it
and help wean the world off of it before it's
too late. And I mean, people, I've never seen anything
like it a mile. I've never seen temperatures like this
or fires like this, and it's frightening and it's happening
(26:55):
that we have hurricanes and we've never had hurricanes like
this before. So you know, Trump gets elected, you know
what is this? His thing is drill, baby, drill, That's
what he wants to talk about. We're already the largest
producer of oil and gas in the world, you know.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Right, and look to your point, So they want to
they want to take away all the environmental protection.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
There is a video where Trump is talking to the
oil industry and basically he says, hey, give me a
billion dollars and you can have whatever you want. And
I'm paraphrasing, but he literally said, give me a billion dollars. Uh.
And and he's just going to open up everything to them. Uh.
And and and not only not only are to your
(27:46):
point of the trees disappearing, but we're talking about just uh,
fresh drinking water would eventually disappear because everybody would be
allowed to dump in the ocean and into the rivers.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, there's there's no bottom to his ability to do
anything for money. Apparently he's under investigation or was under
investigation for taking ten million dollars from the Egyptian president
if he won the election, pocketed ten million dollars, you know,
(28:21):
but that's bill Barr refused to prosecute. But there is
real evidence of that crime. I mean, it's one after
the other. So the whole office of presidency will be
for sale, and no one will stop him because everybody's
working for the government has to sign a pledge to
(28:43):
Trump to be a Trump loyalist. And this is where
we are. I can't you know, when I have this conversation,
I can't believe I'm having it.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Right Well, in your lifetime, just out of the craziest
imagination possible. Would you ever think that our Supreme Court
would say a president has almost total immunity, so sooner
(29:15):
or later? And this is this is what it would
happen if Trump gets into office. As long as it's
an official act he is, he has total immunity, even
though it might be illegal. As long as he says
it's an official act, you know he's going to get
away with it. So he could accept bribes, which you
know he accepted bribes before through his hotel if you
(29:40):
wanted to, if you wanted to give him money, you
would take out his hotel there in Washington, DC and
pay crazy amounts of money and he would show up
to your party or event or meet with you. So
could you imagine Trump, who has been very very difficult
to hold account dountable, once he gets in an office where
(30:03):
he almost cannot be held accountable, there's nothing stop him
in stopping him. I mean never never did I imagine
in my wildest dreams that our Supreme Court would say
would side with Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah, you know, there's nowhere in the Constitution, and I'd
searched for it anything about the president having immunity for
official acts. In fact, he cannot fight wars without congressional approval,
and that approval can be for no more than two
years at a time. So they're very clear in the
(30:41):
Constitution that they don't want him to be a king
or her to be a queen. They just came off
of a revolution because they were living with a king
who was taking their money in taxes and they had
no representation, no taxation without representation, and that's what was
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going on and created the revolution in this country. And
they were very careful in crafting the constitution that there
would be a person in power that would have any
immunity whatsoever from official acts for official acts. And this
is just frightening what this Court has done. And it's
(31:28):
going to require legislation to take the power away from
the Court, which you can do. You can limit the
Supreme Court's power under the Constitution with the simple vote
of Congress and the signature of the President and that's
what has to happen to control the Supreme Court or
(31:48):
apparently members of it appear to be for sale themselves,
you know, with junkets by political groups that they support.
So this is you know, if the whole we have
a whole corrupt, rotten to the corps group that if
(32:11):
they came into office and had power, they're going to
just take it very well, in my opinion, destroy this country.
And that's why the reason I say that that Harris
has to win by a landslide is at that point
in time, the Supreme Court can't come back and test
(32:33):
the victory because it would be so great that there
would be no rational way to say that the election
would be would have changed if one state or two
states electoral votes were not counted, right, So, and you're right,
(32:55):
absolutely correct. Yeah, we really need that, We need everybody's vote.
It's just and everybody needs to get out there and
vote for Harris Walts Walls and just so that they
can tell their children that they were on the right
side of history. And that's where you want to be.
It should be personal. It is personal, and people should
(33:19):
consider it as personal. And this is all you got
is your right to vote. And even in states like California, everybody,
it's got to be a landslide, you know, it's just
got to be in every state. Everybody has to vote
for Harris Waltz Well.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
And to your point, you have several Republican groups and
conservative groups that have come out publicly and said that
Trump is not fit to be the nominee, He's not
fit to be the president. And they've taken it one
step further and they are voting for Harris. They are
(34:07):
supporting Harris not only with votes, but with finance, with
financial donations. And I think that tells you a lot.
When the Republicans are fighting, you know, the Republicans are
having their own civil war, if you will. And there
(34:27):
is a large group of Republicans who are now supporting
Harris because Trump is such a poor choice.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah, And I think it's starting with the country club Republicans.
They're going to be the first one to realize that
you can't vote for a liar or cheating the felon
and put him into office and expect him to do
something different. You know. It's the old story of the
scorpion and the frog that Aristotle used to talk about
(34:58):
and basically the scorpions and the frog were out on
a sandbar and in a in a river, and uh,
the tide came in and they couldn't get the shore,
and the frog was going to hop in, and the
scorpion said, oh, frog, oh frog, please give me a
ride back to the shore. And the frog said, well,
(35:22):
I don't know about that. You're a scorpion. Why would
I ever trust you. Well, you trust me because you're
gonna save my life. I'm gonna you're gonna you're gonna
save my life. Okay, the frog says, hop on my back.
He gets them to the shore and he feels the
sting on his neck and he goes, oh, scorpion, what
(35:43):
have you done? You just killed me. He goes, well,
it's hard for anybody to change their nature, right, and
that's what you have here. Trump's not gonna change his nature.
He's a liar, he's a cheat, he's a felon. And
everybody has to wake up. And you can't wake up
(36:04):
and say, hey, I'm going to go to the poll
and vote for a liar, a cheat, and a felon
and an old one at that right right, and.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Look to me, the age, you know, the age Mayor.
You know, may Or may not come into play, but
his character is front and center. The character. Yeah, his character.
He is the scorpion. We are the frogs. He will
sting us and we will all die. That's that's really
(36:35):
what's going to happen. And and again, if you look
at the amount of Republicans that are supporting a Democrat,
never in our lifetime have we seen so many Republicans
go against their party and vote for a Republican. That's
(36:59):
that's he has to tell you everything you need to know.
The other thing some some of the other highlights. You know,
people people were were saying have told me that they
didn't care that much that Trump had sex with a
porn star or with the playboy bunny. Uh, you know
that that's that those events are between Trump and his wife,
(37:25):
and for the most part, I agree with that. However,
what what should be shocking is that he got in
cahoots with a trusted media company and was paying this
media company to kill stories that that would make him
look bad. Again some of the stories that they that
(37:45):
they bought and killed. It was catch and kill, was
the was the phrase. Were the playboy bunny story was
a porn star story, there was other ones, and then
he then he would also pay the same media outlet
to make derogatory statements or make up stories for any
of his opponents. And so one of the stories that
(38:08):
they that they concocted was that mister Carson, who was
a doctor, had left sponges or utensils inside somebody's head.
And so interestingly enough, the president of that media outlet
actually grew a conscience and and and woke up to
the fact that wait a minute, this could be illegal,
(38:30):
and I don't want to do something. I don't I
don't want to cross that line. So he stopped doing it.
But that was before they cap they caught and killed.
I don't know how many stories and how many made
up stories they put out there to hurt people. So
you're looking at a guy that that it's one thing
to do a little white life, it's another thing two buy,
(38:52):
you know, to to bribe media companies to make up
stories to hurt people intentionally. And again, another of my
favorite things that Trump has done. I say favorite because
it's it's it's just again a shock, you know. Again,
(39:13):
when you're selling something, it is very common to use puffery. Hey,
this is the world's greatest whatever, right, world's greatest pizza.
You can google that and you'll have a million pizza
companies come up. One of the things that Trump was
caught doing, it was is having to deal with that
right now, is that he inflated his properties. Not by
(39:37):
a normal amount, which a lot of people will consider
a normal amount would be anywhere from ten to twenty percent,
but we're talking in some cases one thousand percent. His
own personal penthouse that he said was thirty thousand square
feet and worth three hundred million dollars was only ten
thousand square feet and not close and not even remotely
(39:59):
close to three hundred million dollars. So again, the track
record of this man's character is all you need to
focus on.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Right He's a liar, a cheat, and a felon, and
so that's all you have to know, and that the
examples of it are at nauseam. That's who he is.
He's a scorpion, and he's going to destroy the climate.
He's going to destroy the country, he's going to destroy
(40:27):
the economy all for his self aggrandizement. And he's too
old to do anything different. You can't teach an old
dog new tricks. And so this old dog is somebody
that we cannot put in office. And basically the wellbeing
of our us and our children and our grandchildren and
(40:51):
generations to come will depend on who you vote for
in this election. There's been nothing more important. And we
have to vote for Harris Waltz. And we need a
landslide so that the Supreme Court can't turn it around
because they are not to be trusted.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
No, it is, and I totally agree with you. I
like your idea. It has to be a landslide, so
it is clear and it's unequivocal.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Yeah, and maybe if we get enough in the polls
at the show that he's going to lose by ten
or twelve points, he'll drop out. The Republicans can put
somebody else up that that's not a liar or a
cheat or a felon. So we'll see what happens. But
every day counts, and you know, people who go to
(41:45):
the polls and get a polling information, it seems to
be fairly accurate. It's a close race right now. How
I don't know, but you know, you they're all there
are arguments that you know Biden was too old. Okay,
what did the Democrats do. They reacted to that. They
didn't sit back and say, we don't care. We'll go
(42:07):
down with the ship with this one. So we have
to show the Republicans that they're going to go down
with the ship if they continue to vote for Trump.
And that's what you're doing. He won't sit for a
debate with Harris. He's afraid the only place he'll go
is the confines of Fox News, where he owns everybody
(42:29):
and everything will be slanted in his favor. Well, she's
not going to do that. She's not going on the
sandbar with that scorpion. Not going to happen, you know,
you know, So everybody, please, you know, if you value
your family, if you value your finances, if you bind it,
(42:51):
value your health, and you know that's another thing. He
wants to get rid of Obamacare and every type of
and drug pricing. So it's just it's endless what you're
dealing with here, and so it shouldn't be close. It
just should not be close. So vote for Vote for
(43:13):
someone that's honest and truthful and follows the law. Vote
for Harris Waltz.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
I agree with you. We'll end on that note. Norm,
Thank you so very very much, sir.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Okay, thank you. It's a pleasure, and we'll talk again
in the month, and I'm sure it's going to be
a wild month.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Yes, sir, good stuff there from Norm of Bloomin Thought.
Norm Blumentha is an attorney for workers and consumers like
you and I. You can check out Norm at Bam
law c A. That's Bam law c A. Again. I
have to get behind Norm on this one. We really
need a landslide victory. At first I didn't think we did,
(43:53):
but after listening to his logic, I totally agree that
we have to crush the Republicans. And I know that
if you're a Republican, voting for a Democrat seems unnatural,
maybe gives you the ickys the creepy crawleys. But please
(44:14):
consider the alternative. I'm asking you because our country is
in the balance, and please, let's share this episode with
everyone you know. Let's get everybody out there voting, and
let's make it a landslide victory. Not because Harris is
(44:39):
so wonderful, but because Trump is so bad and we
need to protect our country. We need to take our
country back. Please share this episode. God bless America.
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