November 5, 2024 • 47 mins
Norm Blumenthal - an attorney for workers and consumers. Selected as one of the Top Attorneys in Southern California. Norm was inducted and recognized as one of America's Most Trusted Lawyers in Employment Law.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for Money for Lunch, where we feed your
brain and your business with super sized portions of business
and financial news. Now your host, First Martinez.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Welcome back everyone. This is exciting. It's November fifth election day.
History being made today for the forty seventh time, if
you want to look at it that way, but either way,
it's going to be a November to remember. Here on
the show today is Norm Blumenthal. Norm of Blumenthal's an
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attorney for workers and consumers like you and I selected
as one of the top attorneys in Southern California. Norm
was also inducted and recognized of one of America's most
trusted lawyers in employment law. Norm welcome back.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Nice to be back, Bert, and here we are. We'll
be picking our leader for the next four years, and
the Senate we're picking a third of them and all
the members of the House, along with local elections and
ten states have a women's right to control their own
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bodies on the ballot. We'll see how that plays out.
But the bottom line is and the thing to think about,
I mean, everybody's voted or is going to vote. You know,
time is running out, but hopefully along the way we
all have to realize that leaders make a difference. And
we've had some good presidents and we've had so not
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so good presidents. And in the world today there's good
leaders and there's not so good leaders. So this is
our choice of whether the people we choose or good
leaders or not so good leaders. You know, you go
back to you can go back to Roman times and
as a start, and they had some good leaders and
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not so good leaders, so you can see from all
the history. But eventually what they ended up doing is
they just paid people off to put them in power, surprise, surprise,
and they ended up being bankrupt. Rome became bankrupt and
couldn't pay its bills along the way, and Augustus made
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off with whatever was left. And Parone in Argentina here's
a good example, he's an excellent example. Parone. In the
nineteen forties, Argentina was one of the best economies in
the world, no debt, gold standard. Paeso was backed by
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gold and he came into power and he promised the
workers of the world and he just started printing pesos
in an alarming rate, and eventually he bankrupted the country
and they've never recovered. And it was great when you
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were the worker. And at the beginning and he promised you,
you know, extra pay in additional time off and overtime
pay and no taxes. You loved it. But at some
point in time, as they say, you have to pay
the piper. And that's what ended up happening in today's
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economy worth thirty five trillion dollars in debt, and no
one wants to talk about it. And Candidate Trump he
comes up with, well, I'm gonna make a sweetener here,
and no taxes on commissions and on no taxes on cratuities,
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and no taxes on overtime. Sounds great, but you still
have to pay your bills. And so he's put himself
in a position where if all these giveaways passed, which
he already did once for a tune of about ten
trillion dollars, took all this money and gave it to
people who could at least needed it to put away.
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And here we are he's going to if he gets
elected again, you can look at another five to ten trillion.
I think they have it at seven point five trillion
more in debt that we're going to leave our children
and grandchildren to figure out a way to do it.
The Democrats have a problem too with that. But at
the end of the day, you need good leadership to
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turn it around. And the Republican Party has given up
on providing that, and the Democratic Party they were always
in favor of spending. Except for the anomaly is Clinton Clinton,
that was the last president to have a budget surplus.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Lily and and I want to also interject this is
that you mentioned parone u uh a A. Another example,
I would say would be Hugo Chavez, who again took Venezuela,
one of the richest countries in the world, tons of resources,
tons of oil and and uh the same thing as Peron,
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promised everything to the working class and and I think
I think he not only was going to give him
more money, but he offered he was going to give
every family a free TV. And look at Venezuela. Now,
I mean that if you guys will do some research
on Google or YouTube, the Venezuelan people take their pesos
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and they make art with them, they make hats with them,
they make shirts with them. It's it's very created and
it's just sad. It's just terrible. So your point of
a good leader is needs to be taken to heart.
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And and if you go down the list, what makes
a good leader, Trump, in my opinion, hits none of
those from the very beginning. You know, if you stop,
if you if you start at the top of the list,
a good leader will take responsibility, will admit fault, will
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give credit where credit is due, will will put the
needs of others before them Trump. Those are just the
four off the top of my head. Trump, it doesn't
do any of those, will not ever take responsibility, will
not give credit where credit is due.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Oh, you know, a good leader is loyal Trump has
no loyalty. You know, your chicken salad one day, your
chicken crap the next. And you see this over and
over again. So and to your point with you know,
Clinton having a budget surplus, you know, I think that's
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I think that is a good example. I think it's
you know the uh again. In my opinion, the reality
is that you have you have a bunch of people
in power that are spending other people's money. And as
we've seen, they don't have a huge problem with printing
more money, and and a lot of the problems that
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we suffered through the last four years. Uh, you know,
with the printing of the money you know, I have
to say in my again, I look at it as
a bipartisan thing that both parties decided, Hey, we got
to print all this money to help the citizens of America.
And I think that I am hopeful that when the
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next pandemic comes, which they say is going to happen
sooner or later, that we don't shut down the economy
the way we did. And I just found it interesting
to me, Norman, and I don't want to go down
too far down that rabbit, hope, but I find it
interesting to me that that places like movie theaters were
allowed to stay open, but Jim's had to close, and
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religious institutions had to close.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, you know, it's interesting what people will do. And
you had, leadership is important. I mean, we had fortunately
in this world in the thirties, in the forties, we
had men like Chamberlain and Roosevelt who could stand up
to dictators. And we had, you know, in the eighth
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in the nineteenth century, we had Lincoln who stood up
to these segregationists and the separationists. And now we're in
a juncture where we have on the one hand, Zelenski
in the Ukraine out where the Ukrainians are fighting for
their freedom against putin the dictator in Russia who is
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aligned with the dictatorship of Iran and North Korea. And
so we have to in a position to decide who
we're going to stand up with. Unfortunately, mister Trump has
said that if you know, if he was around, was
president when Lincoln was there, he would have made a
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deal with the South, because you know, there's there's nothing
wrong with save slavery. You know, there's good good slavery
and band slavery. So he you know, this is the
kind of person that could potentially be our president. And
I never gave even a dog whistle to balancing the budget.
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It was never in his cards. And the Republicans really
have to live with the fact that they put him
in who he's anathema to all of the things that
the Republican Party stood for and the Tea Party stood for.
You know, Tea Party was taxed up already, and they
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stood for balancing the budget and bringing down the costs
across the board. Today, you can't get anybody to stand
for balancing the budget or reducing costs in the defense sector.
And you know, the and it's it's unfortunate that we
don't have someone like this in here, and hopefully they'll
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pass whoever gets elected will pass this bipartisan immigration bill
and we'll get that off the charts. I think it's
under control right now. But you know, everybody agrees there
shouldn't be illegal crossing and people should register and get
work permits. And I think the vote in Iowa was
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a big tell you know here you are. You're in Iowa,
you're a farmer. You have a lot of hands on
hard work to do every morning to get the cows
milked and fed and cleaned up. And you know it's
a never ending job. And the only people that'll do
it besides the farmer himself who understands it, is immigrants,
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first generation willing to do it, and some of whom
do not have work permits. Unfortunately they need to get them.
But I think the farmers in Iowa, we're telling us
something that they do need these immigrants. However, it's the
system set up for them to stay. But the idea
of putting people in cages who have work permits or
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don't have work permits, who have jobs, who have family
here and deporting them is something hopefully we'll never have
to see because hopefully mister Trump will not have another
chance to take over this country.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Right right? And you know what here one of the
things that I wanted to ask you, because you're in
a unique position as a lawyer who protects consumers and workers. Uh,
I don't know about you, and so I want to
get your opinion on this. I have not met anybody
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that has lost their job to an immigrant, illegal or otherwise.
I don't know anybody out there. Nobody's nobody's complained to
me that they're they lost their their crop picking job,
or their their janitorial job, or any any any of
these jobs. Have you found a lot of people complaining
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to you about losing their job?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
No, you know, to the contrary, I mean, in Nevada,
are you here, here's to have who's going to clean
all the rooms? And you know you're going to have
immigrants take those jobs that ladies will work and do it,
and you know if they need a fair wage, and
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and you just no one wants these jobs. I mean,
think about you. I mean, I've seen pictures of these
slaughterhouses for chickens and cows, and it's the place you
don't want to be. And nobody would would take these jobs.
No one wants these jobs. And you know, fortunately for
the for the people that are born here and have
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English is their first language, they have a substantial leg
up on getting jobs now. And you know, in the trades,
and you can go to community college and learn a trade.
You don't have to go to a four year college
if you, if you, if it doesn't require and community
colleges in California are virtually free, and how you can
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pick up any trades you want. And this is where
you know, first generation Americans end up in you know,
their parents may have been come across illegally or legally
uh in any event, they were born here and they're
American citizens and they end up going you know, from
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a through elementary school into community college or college. And
who do you think becomes our nurses? And you know
this this is the next generation. You know, you don't
lose your job to an illegal or you're going to
be the one that's going to get the next generation
up and running. And so it's a process that's been happening,
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you know, for two hundred years. This is a melting
pot and always has been. And no one's talked like
mister Trump talks about how you grants are the cross
section of there's not murderers or rapists or anything. They
have the same bad mix of every other group of people,
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and they have the same good mix. And there's a
lot of great immigrants. You know. Just think Evelin Musk,
he's an immigrant. I mean, just you know, should we
kick him out? He wasn't you know, he's a naturalized citizen.
You know, maybe we shouldn't have let him in. Einstein
was an immigrant, so you know, maybe we shouldn't have
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let him in. And so this is how silly it
is to talk put immigrants in one big pot. You know.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Well, and let's not forget. Let's not forget that Trump's
grandfather was an immigrant. Millennia Trump or Milania Trump is
an immigrant. You know that The something else that I
want to kind of bring to to people's memory. Uh,
you know, last time Trump was in office, because he
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made such such a stink about immigration and illegal aliens.
You know, there in California and you correct me if
I'm wrong. Nor there in California there was tons, literally
several tons of unpicked crops because there was nobody to
pick them.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah, and it's a real issue if you can't get
them and seize and shaves. You know, at least gave
them a living wage. But it's a backbreaking job that
I saw, you know, a program on TV about they filled,
you know, a couple of Americans up there against a
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couple of immigrants that try to pick oranges in Florida,
and let's just say that the Americans did not do well.
You know, at the end of the least picture, the
immigrants had sacks and bags of oranges and the Americans
couldn't fill one of ease because they just you know,
it's a backbreaking job they have. And there's no reason
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for a person who comes in illegally who gets a
work per he can stay and work as long as
he has a job, and then he can go home
if he doesn't have a job. But there's no pathway
to citizenship. I mean, it's you know, you have to
stand in line like everybody else, and I think everybody
agrees to that. You have to, you know, follow the
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law and the rules, except for maybe mister Trump. He
has rules of his own that people seem to look
the other way that he's able to violate. And it
has no reflection on who they vote for This is
what I really think the American people just missed out
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on in terms of there's people voting for him, especially Latinos.
You know, he is anti Latino and anti you know, Caribbean,
Puerto Rican. He doesn't like any of these. He doesn't
he's basically anti women. And so but everybody overlooks his
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it's policy problems, and they look at the things he
does and he's like an enter you know, the the
entertainer and people. I think it's just like Peronne or Chavez.
You know, you end up being entertained until you can't
pay your bills anymore because the dollar you have isn't
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worth anything.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Right, right, And and in my opinion, Trump plays the
the weed card. You know, he got in front of
these oil companies and said, you give me a couple
of billion dollars and I forgot the amount. I think
it was two billion, or maybe it was a billion.
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You give me this money and I'll let you start
drilling and you know wherever you want. Essentially is what
he said. And so the reason that Elon Musk is
giving him money, the reason anybody is giving Trump money
is because they're hoping that he's going to help them somehow,
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some way. Right now, we know that the uh, there
are several again this is my opinion. There there are
several Supreme Court justices that that in my you know,
that I think are crooked. This is my opinion. I
think that they're they they are not abiding by the law,
They're not abiding by the Constitution. And and these judges
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have empowered Trump to do uh some of the stuff
that he that he wants to do, and uh, and
so these people now want to tap into that network.
And and and look if if you and I were
billionaires and we want to protect our our our business,
or we want to protect our way of life, and
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we don't want to and we want to avoid being
held accountable for maybe some of the stuff that we're doing,
the polluting or or the way we're tweeting our employees,
then having somebody like Trump and some of his judges
is going to be something that we're interested in. But
you know that only applies to that level of net worth,
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and so uh, you know that it is a it
is a very very interesting thing that we're that we're
seeing here and and uh. The the thing that really
kind of uh what I find so funny is that
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if you know, first of all, with Biden, for the
Republican Party, not the entire party, but the people that
are in the Trump orbit, the mega party, UH have
tried for the last four years to indict Trump. I'm
I'm sorry to indict Biden, to impeach Biden, but they
couldn't find anything. It's it's the silliest thing. And you know,
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I read UH Bill Barr's book, William Barr, who was
Trump's attorney general, and in that book he talks about
how Trump wanted to indict Obama, he wanted to indict
Hunter Biden, he wanted to indict Joe Biden. In One
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of the things that put a wedge between William Barr,
Bill Barr, and Trump is that Bill Barr kept telling
him there's no evidence. We can't prosecute without evidence, and
that in the book he talks about this created this
big wedge because he wanted to prosecute Colly and again
and again Barr came back and said, there's no evidence.
I mean, we don't like what he did or how
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he did it, but there's just no evidence of wrongdoing.
And so I think that if Trump gets in the office,
he's already mentioned multiple times that he's going to retaliate,
He's going to punish his enemies. He doesn't have a
plan for America now. The little plan that we know
is he wants to increase tariffs. And if anybody, please, anybody,
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just do your homework on tariffs. They will put companies
out of business. They will put workers out of business
because this has happened. You know, years ago, years ago,
I had clients that were in the paper and printing business,
and they put I can't remember the president at that time,
I might have been Clinton, But bottom line is, they
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put all these tariffs on Canadian paper and several when
I say several, i'm talking about I believe it's like
one hundred thousand, maybe two hundred thousands, I can't remember
the number. But hundreds of thousands of people lost their jobs.
Companies folded because they could not sustain profitability because of
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these tariffs.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Yeah, I think if you if you look at this,
you know, if Trump gets elected, which can happen, If
this happens, I think you're gonna see it'll take a
couple of years, but unemployment's going to be up, inflation
is going to be up, jobs will be down, Immigration
will be nonexistent, there won't be people to take the
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lower paying jobs. There won't be people to clean the rooms,
there won't be people to clean the streets. You know,
we're just going to be in an awful position. But
by the same token, people like Elon Musk, I mean,
what's he in it for. Let's see, he's got billions
and billions of dollars in government contracts for the satellites.
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He has basically control of star links, where he's controlling
communications around the world. He is in a position he
has Tesla. What about the government if the next fleet
of cars that are all Teslas, how much money is
he going to make off of that? Plus the Tesla argerie?
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How much money will he make off of that? So
the fact that he gives out a million dollars here
and there, or one hundred million dollars, it's not it's
not real money to him because he deals in billions
and trillions, and that's why he is where he is.
And you know, he's basically making a fool of himself
jumping up and down on the stage with Trump. I mean,
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that's this is but this is who he is. He
knows where his bread is butter, and where his money's
coming from. And he's got a chance here for a big,
big payday. And he's playing the authoritarian card because he's
mixed up with Putin, and he's mixed up with Chi
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and he's mixed up with dun Joopying. I mean, he's
all over the place. So this is the guy that
it's pretty frightening that he's going to be the guy
in charge of who works where, because you're going to
see government employees all laid off. What are they going
to be?
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Right? I mean, so to your point, you know that
is part of the twenty twenty five project to lay
off or fire people who are not going to be
one hundred percent loyal to Trump. And even though mister Trump,
former President Trumps, has denied any knowledge of anything to
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do with Project twenty twenty five, the people who are
involved in Project twenty twenty five are people who worked
with him before and he currently I can't remember the
gentleman's name, but he is the head author, if you will,
the lead author in Project twenty twenty five. He's been
promised a position in the White House. It's hard to
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believe that they haven't discussed Project twenty twenty five, and
back to your point of these billionaires. Look at Jeff Bezos.
A lot of people don't know this, but Jeff Bezos
controls the Washington Post. For years, the Washington Post has
endorsed different candidates. Guess what this year, they're silent. They're
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not allowed to endorse one or the other because they're
you know, the the the what do you call it?
The thinking is is that if they endorse Harris and
Trump wins, that Trump will retaliate against the Post and Bezos,
because we've seen it. We've seen how he tried to
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retaliate against Bezos before with Amazon because he was upset
that Amazon had such a sweet deal with the Post Office.
He's he's he's made several threats against Mark Suckerberg and Facebook.
You know, it's it's just one of those things where
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and again, I don't blame these people. You don't want
to be on the bad side of of somebody with
so much power, who has no empathy, who has no
moral compass, who does not believe in the free market,
doesn't believe in playing by certain rules. You know, if
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you look at again Trump's history, we had a failed
Trump University where the only reason, this is my opinion,
the only reason that he he gave a twenty five
million dollar settlement is because he was running for the
White House. The president. See at that time, he has
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had sexual relationships with at least two women that we know,
of which he denies. But then he says, on the
same breath, I don't know these women, but they signed
an NDA. Excuse me, that doesn't even make sense. Yes,
how do you how do you? How do you not
know these women? And in that case, why did they
sign an NBA? So you know, it's it's just one
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of those things where and this is a quote from
William Barr. I'm probably paraphrasing it here, but William Barr,
again this is his former age, said President Trump leaves
a trail of bodies in his wake.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Well, let's talk about the other side of the coin.
And assuming that Kamala ends up being elected president, what
do we what are we going to face with her
as president? Well, first we know she'll sign the border
bill as soon as she gets into office. Everybody was
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ready to sign it before, but Trump wouldn't let them
because he wanted to play the border card during the election.
So that's right.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
And again I'm sorry to catch off, but I do
want to insert this. This was this was a bipartisan
border bill that the publicans applauded.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Right, and so show sign that you know, the immigration
issue will come off the table. Now the question becomes
basically people living. Affordability of housing is a critical issue.
She's come up with some ideas about getting people into
housing with lower costs, and there's other ideas out there,
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for example, having if you're a teacher at a school
like they do at Harvard, but in any school, starting
with an elementary school and an area because the city
schools will build a housing for their teachers, so there's
affordability for them teachers up and down the line. Same
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thing with then you expand it to police and fire,
so you have a community built again around community housing,
of which then you have private houses comes behind it
to make a community that's thriving in and of itself.
So there's an opportunity here with her work to have
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housing again affordable for those Besides the ideas, additional idea
she has about having twenty five thousand dollars per family
as a down payment to purchase a home, and if
you can save money for a reasonable affordable house as
a teacher and put away for a one k money.
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You can have an additional funds for a down payment
on housing as people are moving into the suburbs and
areas because you don't have to live in cities anymore
to make a living. And education would be helped, and
pollution would be helped, and we have people building power
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plants that run on solar to help. Everything would be
in a positive sense and maybe a little boring. Everybody
thinks it's boring for what President Biden did, but he
started this process and to hopefully have clean energy to
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save the planet. And she would continue along those lines
because it's not in it for her, it's in it
for us. Trump, in my opinion, it's in it for him,
and to help with us. She also would most importantly
protect women's rights to their own bodies and making their
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own decisions between them and their doctors without the intervention
of a bunch of old white men who have no
business making a decision for women. And so this is
what the future would be bright and the divisiveness would
be over, and Trump could go about his merry way
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and finish just litigation, and that would be that's where
you know, you hope on the bright side of things,
that you can see that because her ideas are new,
they're fresh, it's a whole new process, and we'd like
to see it. I mean, I think that that not
some of the we've seen this divisiveness. Now, what is
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it's been eight years we've had to put up with it.
I don't think we should have to put it up
with it an extra four. So maybe the Iowa call
Iowa decision like they make when they start out in
the primaries, maybe they're they're this last would be the
last hurrah for Trump. We shall see tonight.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Right right. You know. One of the things I think
is rather odd to me, and a lot of people
don't know this. I've mentioned this before. I needed to
be a hardcore Republican until they got in cahoots with
the insurance company and they wanted to take away people's rights.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
And that's when you heard this thing called tort reform.
And the reason that doctors are so expensive is because
they have to pay these outrageous insurance bills because they're
getting sued all the time. And that's why your medical
costs are so expensive. And by passing this these tort reforms,
the prices will go down. And this was a scam.
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The insurance company spent billions of dollars to get this pass.
But if you talk to any doctor, they will tell
you it was all bull crap. And so that's when
I left the Republican Party. However, I will I do
want to say this. When I was a hardcore Republican.
The great thing about or the easy the best thing
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about following the party line is that you are absolved
yourself from making any kind of research or making any
kind of decision. You're not trying to decide whether this
person's a good leader or a bad leader. Like we're
talking about today. You can just say, hey, i'm a Republican,
so I'm going to vote Republican. I'm a Democrat, so
I'm going to vote Democrats. To me, this is lazy thinking.
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This is lazy voting. You should be looking for the
candidate that's going to be the best leader for that position.
Here Wed and for everybody else who thinks, hey, no,
i'll never I'll only vote the party line. You are
not a patriot. You are not doing your duty. You
are doing the basic nothing and and so That's kind
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of my thought on voting the party line. And then
let's talk about abortion. There's all this talk about abortion,
and and I've had several of my friends, even from
our church, who says, hey, I'm voting for Trump because
he's against abortion. First of all, Trump is not against abortion.
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He did what he did, I'm assuming because somebody paid
him to do it, not because he cares about women.
And he certainly doesn't care about children. If he did
care about children, he would not have messed around with
mister Epstein. The other thing is this, all of these
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people that want to protect children by by getting rid
of abortion have no plan whatsoever. Uh, you know what,
what are they doing once the baby is born and
the mother and father don't want the baby, they have
no plan for that. So you're going to force these
people to have a child they don't want. It's gonna
go into the government system. That is not better. That's
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in some cases it's even worse. Now they want to
make it sound like women just think that abortion is
some silly, willy thing. It's like I'm gonna I'm gonna
have an abortion, like I'm gonna change my underwear. It's
like they make it sound like these like these women
that have abortions are just so flippant about it. I
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don't think that's true. And for our Christian listeners there,
you know twice taught taught over and over again that
it is not your job to judge others, and he
who judges commits the bigger sin. So if you're in
it because of religious reasons, be mindful that if you're
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judging these people, you don't have the authority to judge them,
and you're committing the bigger sin. I'm not sure how
what what abortion looks like for the for the Jewish people,
but bottom line is I don't know anybody norm that
says that that is just willing nilly about having an abortion. However,
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I'm scared that. Look what happened in Texas. Here is
this young mother who has an I don't know what
the medical but it's an invalid fetus or anyway, the
thetis is not going to be born alive. It is
killing the mother, and the the state attorney general stops
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her from having an abortion. You have to be a
complete a hole to put somebody in that predicament. That's
you know, So this idea that abortion is is purely evil.
And and it's so you know, simple, Uh, they're wrong.
And and and I don't know anybody that would would
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have an abortion, you know, without without going through tremendous
struggle making that decision. And and uh, I don't know
anybody who's who wants to have an abortion, but they
certainly want to have that option. And so again this
is something that that you know, people have pointed to
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when it comes to Harris. But to your point, the
people who are making, who are pointing the finger and
trying to make these laws, are old white men. And
some of these old white men have been involved in
sexual scandal. So it's not a morality thing.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
No, it's not. And it's you know, it's something between
the doctor and the woman. And these are the people
that should be making the decisions, and government should stay out.
And that's the whole point. And you're going to have
a real bigger issue coming up it should mister Trump
be elected because of the Comstock Law. Comstock Law has
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passed in eighteen seventy six, and Comstock Law basically not
only outlaws abortion and outlaws any type of contraceptive. So
it goes back and Griswold versus Connecticut. First, it was
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the first case that gave women the right to contraception,
and that was right before Row happened on the heels
of that, but that could very well be the next target.
So it's frightening how this country, these old white men
treat women as if they're brood mayors instead of human
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beings the same rights as white people and men. I mean,
this is just appalling. And so I'd just defer to
the women to make their own decisions, because they're going
to make it what's right for themselves. But that's not
going to happen unless Harris is elected, because it's going
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to get worse at the federal level, and it will
get worse in states that don't have protection for women's laws,
which we'll see hopefully will dwindle down, but there's still
going to be pockets of women that I've heard that
you know, I just had children in Texas and the
whole pregnancy, they were scared to death that something would
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go wrong and they'd have no no, they die. I mean,
that was that was what would happen. But we'll see
what happens. I have my faith in the American people,
and at the end of the day. I'm hoping that
Iowa was to tell and that we're going to see
Harris win.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
You know, I'm grateful. I am grateful for uh, for
the celebrities that have come forward.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
And some of these celebrities are Republican, They're conservative. Harrison
Ford is a great example. He is a He is
a conservative Republican who is now voting for Harris. We've
had multiple conservative Liz Cheney is supporting uh Harris. You know,
back to the reproduction thing. If twenty Project twenty twenty
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five is initiated, they want to do away with IVF.
I don't know why they would want to give away
why would they want to stop people from having families?
And then what really cracks me up is you have
this Project twenty twenty five that wants to get rid
of IVF, and then you have mister J. D. Bannce saying, Hey,
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for these people who aren't going to have children, they
should pay a higher tax. It's like, you know, they
just want to squeeze people for the sake of squeezing them,
not to help them, not to make the world a
better place, not to promote fairness and have united nations,
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but just for the sake of placing their hate and
fear on whoever is different than them.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Well, at the end of the day, a vote for
Trump is a vote for Putin, and a vote for
Paris is a vote for Ukrainians who are fighting there
for their freedom. And a vote for Harris is a
vote to rein in the what it's going on in
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the Middle East, to bring about peace in the Middle East.
And a vote for Trump is to give Nettan Yahoo
a blank check to to do whatever we want. So
there's there's a real issue here as to in the
world politic, as to where we're going to end up to,
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and it's it's kind of scary. Or are we're going
to vote for freedom for people, or are we going
to vote for authoritarian rule like you have in Russia
right now, or you're going to vote for freedom where
the Ukrainians are fighting for their freedom. So that's.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
And I do want to, you know, kind of maybe
end on this note. One of the things that you
have said over the years is follow the money, or
do what's best for your wallet, you know, some of
these some things along those lines. And and by Trump
being in office, he's going to uh and and this
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is not be saying this, by the way, this is
both Democrats. This is both Democrats and Republicans saying that
Trump's economic plan is going to cost us a minimum
of seven trillions, and and uh, it's going to hurt
us because he wants to do all this crazy stuff
with carraps. Mark Cuban, who's a Republican, is now voting
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for Harris, and he's he's he's got he's got into
great detail talking about, uh, how bad this plan is,
and and so have other economic experts. So maybe vote,
vote with your pocketbook. And that's another reason to vote Harris.
In her economic frant plan is only going to cost
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us three trillion dollars, so it's half the prize. But
it's it is built. It's based on expansion and abundance
and not contraction. You cannot tax. You cannot tax a
country into prosperity. Tariffs is a way of taxing and
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slowing down the economy. I will end on that note,
and I will let you norm finish it up.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Okay, at the end of the day. I mean I
have many, many friends who are Republicans. I know their
heart's in the right place, and you know, we don't
talk politics because we know that that that's not going
to be a good discussion. But at the end of
the day, my feeling is is that when they get
into the voting booth or when they fill out their form,
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when no one else is a and no one can
see who they're going to vote for, and they're never
going to tell because fortunately it's a secret ballot and
no one ever has to tell who they vote for.
But at the end of the day, every they're like
everybody else, they're just sick and tired of the divisiveness
and the name calling and the gutter language of our
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leaders that you know, perpiate permeates down to our children.
That at the end of the day, these Republicans, and
they're good people, are going to vote for.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Harris absolutely and normal. End on that note, thank you
so much, my friend for being here today. God bless
America and we'll see you again soon.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Thank you and good luck to everybody.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Good stuff there from Norm Blumenthal. Norm Blumenthal is an
attorney who specialized in helping workers and consumers. And just
I tell you, I've known Norm for almost ten years
and his heart is is is a big heart. He
is a successful individual, and he wants everybody else to
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be successful. He doesn't mind paying higher taxes if it's
going to help his community. Very much analogous to Warren Buffett,
you know warm Buffett says taxes, if they are spend correctly,
will help the community. So Norm puts his money where
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his mouth is. And ladies and gentlemen, I love our country.
I want everyone to have the American dream, whatever that
means to you. I do not believe in my heart
of hearts that Trump has any love for our country.
He does not care about your success, and most politicians don't.
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But I urge you to consider, prayer fully, consider voting
for mss Harris. Either way, your vote's important, so get
out there and cast your vote. Remember you were created
to succeed.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Welcome back everyone. This is exciting. It's November fifth election day.
History being made today for the forty seventh time, if
you want to look at it that way, but either way,
it's going to be a November to remember. Here on
the show today is Norm Blumenthal. Norm of Blumenthal's an
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attorney for workers and consumers like you and I selected
as one of the top attorneys in Southern California. Norm
was also inducted and recognized of one of America's most
trusted lawyers in employment law. Norm welcome back.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Nice to be back, Bert, and here we are. We'll
be picking our leader for the next four years, and
the Senate we're picking a third of them and all
the members of the House, along with local elections and
ten states have a women's right to control their own
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bodies on the ballot. We'll see how that plays out.
But the bottom line is and the thing to think about,
I mean, everybody's voted or is going to vote. You know,
time is running out, but hopefully along the way we
all have to realize that leaders make a difference. And
we've had some good presidents and we've had so not
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so good presidents. And in the world today there's good
leaders and there's not so good leaders. So this is
our choice of whether the people we choose or good
leaders or not so good leaders. You know, you go
back to you can go back to Roman times and
as a start, and they had some good leaders and
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not so good leaders, so you can see from all
the history. But eventually what they ended up doing is
they just paid people off to put them in power, surprise, surprise,
and they ended up being bankrupt. Rome became bankrupt and
couldn't pay its bills along the way, and Augustus made
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off with whatever was left. And Parone in Argentina here's
a good example, he's an excellent example. Parone. In the
nineteen forties, Argentina was one of the best economies in
the world, no debt, gold standard. Paeso was backed by
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gold and he came into power and he promised the
workers of the world and he just started printing pesos
in an alarming rate, and eventually he bankrupted the country
and they've never recovered. And it was great when you
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were the worker. And at the beginning and he promised you,
you know, extra pay in additional time off and overtime
pay and no taxes. You loved it. But at some
point in time, as they say, you have to pay
the piper. And that's what ended up happening in today's
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economy worth thirty five trillion dollars in debt, and no
one wants to talk about it. And Candidate Trump he
comes up with, well, I'm gonna make a sweetener here,
and no taxes on commissions and on no taxes on cratuities,
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and no taxes on overtime. Sounds great, but you still
have to pay your bills. And so he's put himself
in a position where if all these giveaways passed, which
he already did once for a tune of about ten
trillion dollars, took all this money and gave it to
people who could at least needed it to put away.
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And here we are he's going to if he gets
elected again, you can look at another five to ten trillion.
I think they have it at seven point five trillion
more in debt that we're going to leave our children
and grandchildren to figure out a way to do it.
The Democrats have a problem too with that. But at
the end of the day, you need good leadership to
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turn it around. And the Republican Party has given up
on providing that, and the Democratic Party they were always
in favor of spending. Except for the anomaly is Clinton Clinton,
that was the last president to have a budget surplus.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Lily and and I want to also interject this is
that you mentioned parone u uh a A. Another example,
I would say would be Hugo Chavez, who again took Venezuela,
one of the richest countries in the world, tons of resources,
tons of oil and and uh the same thing as Peron,
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promised everything to the working class and and I think
I think he not only was going to give him
more money, but he offered he was going to give
every family a free TV. And look at Venezuela. Now,
I mean that if you guys will do some research
on Google or YouTube, the Venezuelan people take their pesos
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and they make art with them, they make hats with them,
they make shirts with them. It's it's very created and
it's just sad. It's just terrible. So your point of
a good leader is needs to be taken to heart.
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And and if you go down the list, what makes
a good leader, Trump, in my opinion, hits none of
those from the very beginning. You know, if you stop,
if you if you start at the top of the list,
a good leader will take responsibility, will admit fault, will
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give credit where credit is due, will will put the
needs of others before them Trump. Those are just the
four off the top of my head. Trump, it doesn't
do any of those, will not ever take responsibility, will
not give credit where credit is due.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Oh, you know, a good leader is loyal Trump has
no loyalty. You know, your chicken salad one day, your
chicken crap the next. And you see this over and
over again. So and to your point with you know,
Clinton having a budget surplus, you know, I think that's
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I think that is a good example. I think it's
you know the uh again. In my opinion, the reality
is that you have you have a bunch of people
in power that are spending other people's money. And as
we've seen, they don't have a huge problem with printing
more money, and and a lot of the problems that
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we suffered through the last four years. Uh, you know,
with the printing of the money you know, I have
to say in my again, I look at it as
a bipartisan thing that both parties decided, Hey, we got
to print all this money to help the citizens of America.
And I think that I am hopeful that when the
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next pandemic comes, which they say is going to happen
sooner or later, that we don't shut down the economy
the way we did. And I just found it interesting
to me, Norman, and I don't want to go down
too far down that rabbit, hope, but I find it
interesting to me that that places like movie theaters were
allowed to stay open, but Jim's had to close, and
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religious institutions had to close.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, you know, it's interesting what people will do. And
you had, leadership is important. I mean, we had fortunately
in this world in the thirties, in the forties, we
had men like Chamberlain and Roosevelt who could stand up
to dictators. And we had, you know, in the eighth
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in the nineteenth century, we had Lincoln who stood up
to these segregationists and the separationists. And now we're in
a juncture where we have on the one hand, Zelenski
in the Ukraine out where the Ukrainians are fighting for
their freedom against putin the dictator in Russia who is
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aligned with the dictatorship of Iran and North Korea. And
so we have to in a position to decide who
we're going to stand up with. Unfortunately, mister Trump has
said that if you know, if he was around, was
president when Lincoln was there, he would have made a
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deal with the South, because you know, there's there's nothing
wrong with save slavery. You know, there's good good slavery
and band slavery. So he you know, this is the
kind of person that could potentially be our president. And
I never gave even a dog whistle to balancing the budget.
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It was never in his cards. And the Republicans really
have to live with the fact that they put him
in who he's anathema to all of the things that
the Republican Party stood for and the Tea Party stood for.
You know, Tea Party was taxed up already, and they
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stood for balancing the budget and bringing down the costs
across the board. Today, you can't get anybody to stand
for balancing the budget or reducing costs in the defense sector.
And you know, the and it's it's unfortunate that we
don't have someone like this in here, and hopefully they'll
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pass whoever gets elected will pass this bipartisan immigration bill
and we'll get that off the charts. I think it's
under control right now. But you know, everybody agrees there
shouldn't be illegal crossing and people should register and get
work permits. And I think the vote in Iowa was
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a big tell you know here you are. You're in Iowa,
you're a farmer. You have a lot of hands on
hard work to do every morning to get the cows
milked and fed and cleaned up. And you know it's
a never ending job. And the only people that'll do
it besides the farmer himself who understands it, is immigrants,
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first generation willing to do it, and some of whom
do not have work permits. Unfortunately they need to get them.
But I think the farmers in Iowa, we're telling us
something that they do need these immigrants. However, it's the
system set up for them to stay. But the idea
of putting people in cages who have work permits or
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don't have work permits, who have jobs, who have family
here and deporting them is something hopefully we'll never have
to see because hopefully mister Trump will not have another
chance to take over this country.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Right right? And you know what here one of the
things that I wanted to ask you, because you're in
a unique position as a lawyer who protects consumers and workers. Uh,
I don't know about you, and so I want to
get your opinion on this. I have not met anybody
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that has lost their job to an immigrant, illegal or otherwise.
I don't know anybody out there. Nobody's nobody's complained to
me that they're they lost their their crop picking job,
or their their janitorial job, or any any any of
these jobs. Have you found a lot of people complaining
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to you about losing their job?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
No, you know, to the contrary, I mean, in Nevada,
are you here, here's to have who's going to clean
all the rooms? And you know you're going to have
immigrants take those jobs that ladies will work and do it,
and you know if they need a fair wage, and
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and you just no one wants these jobs. I mean,
think about you. I mean, I've seen pictures of these
slaughterhouses for chickens and cows, and it's the place you
don't want to be. And nobody would would take these jobs.
No one wants these jobs. And you know, fortunately for
the for the people that are born here and have
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English is their first language, they have a substantial leg
up on getting jobs now. And you know, in the trades,
and you can go to community college and learn a trade.
You don't have to go to a four year college
if you, if you, if it doesn't require and community
colleges in California are virtually free, and how you can
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pick up any trades you want. And this is where
you know, first generation Americans end up in you know,
their parents may have been come across illegally or legally
uh in any event, they were born here and they're
American citizens and they end up going you know, from
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a through elementary school into community college or college. And
who do you think becomes our nurses? And you know
this this is the next generation. You know, you don't
lose your job to an illegal or you're going to
be the one that's going to get the next generation
up and running. And so it's a process that's been happening,
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you know, for two hundred years. This is a melting
pot and always has been. And no one's talked like
mister Trump talks about how you grants are the cross
section of there's not murderers or rapists or anything. They
have the same bad mix of every other group of people,
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and they have the same good mix. And there's a
lot of great immigrants. You know. Just think Evelin Musk,
he's an immigrant. I mean, just you know, should we
kick him out? He wasn't you know, he's a naturalized citizen.
You know, maybe we shouldn't have let him in. Einstein
was an immigrant, so you know, maybe we shouldn't have
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let him in. And so this is how silly it
is to talk put immigrants in one big pot. You know.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Well, and let's not forget. Let's not forget that Trump's
grandfather was an immigrant. Millennia Trump or Milania Trump is
an immigrant. You know that The something else that I
want to kind of bring to to people's memory. Uh,
you know, last time Trump was in office, because he
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made such such a stink about immigration and illegal aliens.
You know, there in California and you correct me if
I'm wrong. Nor there in California there was tons, literally
several tons of unpicked crops because there was nobody to
pick them.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah, and it's a real issue if you can't get
them and seize and shaves. You know, at least gave
them a living wage. But it's a backbreaking job that
I saw, you know, a program on TV about they filled,
you know, a couple of Americans up there against a
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couple of immigrants that try to pick oranges in Florida,
and let's just say that the Americans did not do well.
You know, at the end of the least picture, the
immigrants had sacks and bags of oranges and the Americans
couldn't fill one of ease because they just you know,
it's a backbreaking job they have. And there's no reason
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for a person who comes in illegally who gets a
work per he can stay and work as long as
he has a job, and then he can go home
if he doesn't have a job. But there's no pathway
to citizenship. I mean, it's you know, you have to
stand in line like everybody else, and I think everybody
agrees to that. You have to, you know, follow the
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law and the rules, except for maybe mister Trump. He
has rules of his own that people seem to look
the other way that he's able to violate. And it
has no reflection on who they vote for This is
what I really think the American people just missed out
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on in terms of there's people voting for him, especially Latinos.
You know, he is anti Latino and anti you know, Caribbean,
Puerto Rican. He doesn't like any of these. He doesn't
he's basically anti women. And so but everybody overlooks his
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it's policy problems, and they look at the things he
does and he's like an enter you know, the the
entertainer and people. I think it's just like Peronne or Chavez.
You know, you end up being entertained until you can't
pay your bills anymore because the dollar you have isn't
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worth anything.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Right, right, And and in my opinion, Trump plays the
the weed card. You know, he got in front of
these oil companies and said, you give me a couple
of billion dollars and I forgot the amount. I think
it was two billion, or maybe it was a billion.
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You give me this money and I'll let you start
drilling and you know wherever you want. Essentially is what
he said. And so the reason that Elon Musk is
giving him money, the reason anybody is giving Trump money
is because they're hoping that he's going to help them somehow,
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some way. Right now, we know that the uh, there
are several again this is my opinion. There there are
several Supreme Court justices that that in my you know,
that I think are crooked. This is my opinion. I
think that they're they they are not abiding by the law,
They're not abiding by the Constitution. And and these judges
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have empowered Trump to do uh some of the stuff
that he that he wants to do, and uh, and
so these people now want to tap into that network.
And and and look if if you and I were
billionaires and we want to protect our our our business,
or we want to protect our way of life, and
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we don't want to and we want to avoid being
held accountable for maybe some of the stuff that we're doing,
the polluting or or the way we're tweeting our employees,
then having somebody like Trump and some of his judges
is going to be something that we're interested in. But
you know that only applies to that level of net worth,
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and so uh, you know that it is a it
is a very very interesting thing that we're that we're
seeing here and and uh. The the thing that really
kind of uh what I find so funny is that
(20:36):
if you know, first of all, with Biden, for the
Republican Party, not the entire party, but the people that
are in the Trump orbit, the mega party, UH have
tried for the last four years to indict Trump. I'm
I'm sorry to indict Biden, to impeach Biden, but they
couldn't find anything. It's it's the silliest thing. And you know,
(20:57):
I read UH Bill Barr's book, William Barr, who was
Trump's attorney general, and in that book he talks about
how Trump wanted to indict Obama, he wanted to indict
Hunter Biden, he wanted to indict Joe Biden. In One
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of the things that put a wedge between William Barr,
Bill Barr, and Trump is that Bill Barr kept telling
him there's no evidence. We can't prosecute without evidence, and
that in the book he talks about this created this
big wedge because he wanted to prosecute Colly and again
and again Barr came back and said, there's no evidence.
I mean, we don't like what he did or how
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he did it, but there's just no evidence of wrongdoing.
And so I think that if Trump gets in the office,
he's already mentioned multiple times that he's going to retaliate,
He's going to punish his enemies. He doesn't have a
plan for America now. The little plan that we know
is he wants to increase tariffs. And if anybody, please, anybody,
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just do your homework on tariffs. They will put companies
out of business. They will put workers out of business
because this has happened. You know, years ago, years ago,
I had clients that were in the paper and printing business,
and they put I can't remember the president at that time,
I might have been Clinton, But bottom line is, they
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put all these tariffs on Canadian paper and several when
I say several, i'm talking about I believe it's like
one hundred thousand, maybe two hundred thousands, I can't remember
the number. But hundreds of thousands of people lost their jobs.
Companies folded because they could not sustain profitability because of
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these tariffs.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Yeah, I think if you if you look at this,
you know, if Trump gets elected, which can happen, If
this happens, I think you're gonna see it'll take a
couple of years, but unemployment's going to be up, inflation
is going to be up, jobs will be down, Immigration
will be nonexistent, there won't be people to take the
(23:14):
lower paying jobs. There won't be people to clean the rooms,
there won't be people to clean the streets. You know,
we're just going to be in an awful position. But
by the same token, people like Elon Musk, I mean,
what's he in it for. Let's see, he's got billions
and billions of dollars in government contracts for the satellites.
(23:37):
He has basically control of star links, where he's controlling
communications around the world. He is in a position he
has Tesla. What about the government if the next fleet
of cars that are all Teslas, how much money is
he going to make off of that? Plus the Tesla argerie?
(24:01):
How much money will he make off of that? So
the fact that he gives out a million dollars here
and there, or one hundred million dollars, it's not it's
not real money to him because he deals in billions
and trillions, and that's why he is where he is.
And you know, he's basically making a fool of himself
jumping up and down on the stage with Trump. I mean,
(24:23):
that's this is but this is who he is. He
knows where his bread is butter, and where his money's
coming from. And he's got a chance here for a big,
big payday. And he's playing the authoritarian card because he's
mixed up with Putin, and he's mixed up with Chi
(24:45):
and he's mixed up with dun Joopying. I mean, he's
all over the place. So this is the guy that
it's pretty frightening that he's going to be the guy
in charge of who works where, because you're going to
see government employees all laid off. What are they going
to be?
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Right? I mean, so to your point, you know that
is part of the twenty twenty five project to lay
off or fire people who are not going to be
one hundred percent loyal to Trump. And even though mister Trump,
former President Trumps, has denied any knowledge of anything to
(25:30):
do with Project twenty twenty five, the people who are
involved in Project twenty twenty five are people who worked
with him before and he currently I can't remember the
gentleman's name, but he is the head author, if you will,
the lead author in Project twenty twenty five. He's been
promised a position in the White House. It's hard to
(25:53):
believe that they haven't discussed Project twenty twenty five, and
back to your point of these billionaires. Look at Jeff Bezos.
A lot of people don't know this, but Jeff Bezos
controls the Washington Post. For years, the Washington Post has
endorsed different candidates. Guess what this year, they're silent. They're
(26:17):
not allowed to endorse one or the other because they're
you know, the the the what do you call it?
The thinking is is that if they endorse Harris and
Trump wins, that Trump will retaliate against the Post and Bezos,
because we've seen it. We've seen how he tried to
(26:39):
retaliate against Bezos before with Amazon because he was upset
that Amazon had such a sweet deal with the Post Office.
He's he's he's made several threats against Mark Suckerberg and Facebook.
You know, it's it's just one of those things where
(27:01):
and again, I don't blame these people. You don't want
to be on the bad side of of somebody with
so much power, who has no empathy, who has no
moral compass, who does not believe in the free market,
doesn't believe in playing by certain rules. You know, if
(27:25):
you look at again Trump's history, we had a failed
Trump University where the only reason, this is my opinion,
the only reason that he he gave a twenty five
million dollar settlement is because he was running for the
White House. The president. See at that time, he has
(27:46):
had sexual relationships with at least two women that we know,
of which he denies. But then he says, on the
same breath, I don't know these women, but they signed
an NDA. Excuse me, that doesn't even make sense. Yes,
how do you how do you? How do you not
know these women? And in that case, why did they
sign an NBA? So you know, it's it's just one
(28:07):
of those things where and this is a quote from
William Barr. I'm probably paraphrasing it here, but William Barr,
again this is his former age, said President Trump leaves
a trail of bodies in his wake.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Well, let's talk about the other side of the coin.
And assuming that Kamala ends up being elected president, what
do we what are we going to face with her
as president? Well, first we know she'll sign the border
bill as soon as she gets into office. Everybody was
(28:43):
ready to sign it before, but Trump wouldn't let them
because he wanted to play the border card during the election.
So that's right.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
And again I'm sorry to catch off, but I do
want to insert this. This was this was a bipartisan
border bill that the publicans applauded.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Right, and so show sign that you know, the immigration
issue will come off the table. Now the question becomes
basically people living. Affordability of housing is a critical issue.
She's come up with some ideas about getting people into
housing with lower costs, and there's other ideas out there,
(29:25):
for example, having if you're a teacher at a school
like they do at Harvard, but in any school, starting
with an elementary school and an area because the city
schools will build a housing for their teachers, so there's
affordability for them teachers up and down the line. Same
(29:47):
thing with then you expand it to police and fire,
so you have a community built again around community housing,
of which then you have private houses comes behind it
to make a community that's thriving in and of itself.
So there's an opportunity here with her work to have
(30:12):
housing again affordable for those Besides the ideas, additional idea
she has about having twenty five thousand dollars per family
as a down payment to purchase a home, and if
you can save money for a reasonable affordable house as
a teacher and put away for a one k money.
(30:34):
You can have an additional funds for a down payment
on housing as people are moving into the suburbs and
areas because you don't have to live in cities anymore
to make a living. And education would be helped, and
pollution would be helped, and we have people building power
(30:55):
plants that run on solar to help. Everything would be
in a positive sense and maybe a little boring. Everybody
thinks it's boring for what President Biden did, but he
started this process and to hopefully have clean energy to
(31:17):
save the planet. And she would continue along those lines
because it's not in it for her, it's in it
for us. Trump, in my opinion, it's in it for him,
and to help with us. She also would most importantly
protect women's rights to their own bodies and making their
(31:38):
own decisions between them and their doctors without the intervention
of a bunch of old white men who have no
business making a decision for women. And so this is
what the future would be bright and the divisiveness would
be over, and Trump could go about his merry way
(31:59):
and finish just litigation, and that would be that's where
you know, you hope on the bright side of things,
that you can see that because her ideas are new,
they're fresh, it's a whole new process, and we'd like
to see it. I mean, I think that that not
some of the we've seen this divisiveness. Now, what is
(32:21):
it's been eight years we've had to put up with it.
I don't think we should have to put it up
with it an extra four. So maybe the Iowa call
Iowa decision like they make when they start out in
the primaries, maybe they're they're this last would be the
last hurrah for Trump. We shall see tonight.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Right right. You know. One of the things I think
is rather odd to me, and a lot of people
don't know this. I've mentioned this before. I needed to
be a hardcore Republican until they got in cahoots with
the insurance company and they wanted to take away people's rights.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
And that's when you heard this thing called tort reform.
And the reason that doctors are so expensive is because
they have to pay these outrageous insurance bills because they're
getting sued all the time. And that's why your medical
costs are so expensive. And by passing this these tort reforms,
the prices will go down. And this was a scam.
(33:31):
The insurance company spent billions of dollars to get this pass.
But if you talk to any doctor, they will tell
you it was all bull crap. And so that's when
I left the Republican Party. However, I will I do
want to say this. When I was a hardcore Republican.
The great thing about or the easy the best thing
(33:51):
about following the party line is that you are absolved
yourself from making any kind of research or making any
kind of decision. You're not trying to decide whether this
person's a good leader or a bad leader. Like we're
talking about today. You can just say, hey, i'm a Republican,
so I'm going to vote Republican. I'm a Democrat, so
I'm going to vote Democrats. To me, this is lazy thinking.
(34:12):
This is lazy voting. You should be looking for the
candidate that's going to be the best leader for that position.
Here Wed and for everybody else who thinks, hey, no,
i'll never I'll only vote the party line. You are
not a patriot. You are not doing your duty. You
are doing the basic nothing and and so That's kind
(34:37):
of my thought on voting the party line. And then
let's talk about abortion. There's all this talk about abortion,
and and I've had several of my friends, even from
our church, who says, hey, I'm voting for Trump because
he's against abortion. First of all, Trump is not against abortion.
(35:00):
He did what he did, I'm assuming because somebody paid
him to do it, not because he cares about women.
And he certainly doesn't care about children. If he did
care about children, he would not have messed around with
mister Epstein. The other thing is this, all of these
(35:22):
people that want to protect children by by getting rid
of abortion have no plan whatsoever. Uh, you know what,
what are they doing once the baby is born and
the mother and father don't want the baby, they have
no plan for that. So you're going to force these
people to have a child they don't want. It's gonna
go into the government system. That is not better. That's
(35:47):
in some cases it's even worse. Now they want to
make it sound like women just think that abortion is
some silly, willy thing. It's like I'm gonna I'm gonna
have an abortion, like I'm gonna change my underwear. It's
like they make it sound like these like these women
that have abortions are just so flippant about it. I
(36:08):
don't think that's true. And for our Christian listeners there,
you know twice taught taught over and over again that
it is not your job to judge others, and he
who judges commits the bigger sin. So if you're in
it because of religious reasons, be mindful that if you're
(36:30):
judging these people, you don't have the authority to judge them,
and you're committing the bigger sin. I'm not sure how
what what abortion looks like for the for the Jewish people,
but bottom line is I don't know anybody norm that
says that that is just willing nilly about having an abortion. However,
(36:51):
I'm scared that. Look what happened in Texas. Here is
this young mother who has an I don't know what
the medical but it's an invalid fetus or anyway, the
thetis is not going to be born alive. It is
killing the mother, and the the state attorney general stops
(37:13):
her from having an abortion. You have to be a
complete a hole to put somebody in that predicament. That's
you know, So this idea that abortion is is purely evil.
And and it's so you know, simple, Uh, they're wrong.
And and and I don't know anybody that would would
(37:37):
have an abortion, you know, without without going through tremendous
struggle making that decision. And and uh, I don't know
anybody who's who wants to have an abortion, but they
certainly want to have that option. And so again this
is something that that you know, people have pointed to
(38:02):
when it comes to Harris. But to your point, the
people who are making, who are pointing the finger and
trying to make these laws, are old white men. And
some of these old white men have been involved in
sexual scandal. So it's not a morality thing.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
No, it's not. And it's you know, it's something between
the doctor and the woman. And these are the people
that should be making the decisions, and government should stay out.
And that's the whole point. And you're going to have
a real bigger issue coming up it should mister Trump
be elected because of the Comstock Law. Comstock Law has
(38:46):
passed in eighteen seventy six, and Comstock Law basically not
only outlaws abortion and outlaws any type of contraceptive. So
it goes back and Griswold versus Connecticut. First, it was
(39:07):
the first case that gave women the right to contraception,
and that was right before Row happened on the heels
of that, but that could very well be the next target.
So it's frightening how this country, these old white men
treat women as if they're brood mayors instead of human
(39:30):
beings the same rights as white people and men. I mean,
this is just appalling. And so I'd just defer to
the women to make their own decisions, because they're going
to make it what's right for themselves. But that's not
going to happen unless Harris is elected, because it's going
(39:51):
to get worse at the federal level, and it will
get worse in states that don't have protection for women's laws,
which we'll see hopefully will dwindle down, but there's still
going to be pockets of women that I've heard that
you know, I just had children in Texas and the
whole pregnancy, they were scared to death that something would
(40:13):
go wrong and they'd have no no, they die. I mean,
that was that was what would happen. But we'll see
what happens. I have my faith in the American people,
and at the end of the day. I'm hoping that
Iowa was to tell and that we're going to see
Harris win.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
You know, I'm grateful. I am grateful for uh, for
the celebrities that have come forward.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
And some of these celebrities are Republican, They're conservative. Harrison
Ford is a great example. He is a He is
a conservative Republican who is now voting for Harris. We've
had multiple conservative Liz Cheney is supporting uh Harris. You know,
back to the reproduction thing. If twenty Project twenty twenty
(41:07):
five is initiated, they want to do away with IVF.
I don't know why they would want to give away
why would they want to stop people from having families?
And then what really cracks me up is you have
this Project twenty twenty five that wants to get rid
of IVF, and then you have mister J. D. Bannce saying, Hey,
(41:29):
for these people who aren't going to have children, they
should pay a higher tax. It's like, you know, they
just want to squeeze people for the sake of squeezing them,
not to help them, not to make the world a
better place, not to promote fairness and have united nations,
(41:52):
but just for the sake of placing their hate and
fear on whoever is different than them.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Well, at the end of the day, a vote for
Trump is a vote for Putin, and a vote for
Paris is a vote for Ukrainians who are fighting there
for their freedom. And a vote for Harris is a
vote to rein in the what it's going on in
(42:23):
the Middle East, to bring about peace in the Middle East.
And a vote for Trump is to give Nettan Yahoo
a blank check to to do whatever we want. So
there's there's a real issue here as to in the
world politic, as to where we're going to end up to,
(42:44):
and it's it's kind of scary. Or are we're going
to vote for freedom for people, or are we going
to vote for authoritarian rule like you have in Russia
right now, or you're going to vote for freedom where
the Ukrainians are fighting for their freedom. So that's.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
And I do want to, you know, kind of maybe
end on this note. One of the things that you
have said over the years is follow the money, or
do what's best for your wallet, you know, some of
these some things along those lines. And and by Trump
being in office, he's going to uh and and this
(43:27):
is not be saying this, by the way, this is
both Democrats. This is both Democrats and Republicans saying that
Trump's economic plan is going to cost us a minimum
of seven trillions, and and uh, it's going to hurt
us because he wants to do all this crazy stuff
with carraps. Mark Cuban, who's a Republican, is now voting
(43:47):
for Harris, and he's he's he's got he's got into
great detail talking about, uh, how bad this plan is,
and and so have other economic experts. So maybe vote,
vote with your pocketbook. And that's another reason to vote Harris.
In her economic frant plan is only going to cost
(44:09):
us three trillion dollars, so it's half the prize. But
it's it is built. It's based on expansion and abundance
and not contraction. You cannot tax. You cannot tax a
country into prosperity. Tariffs is a way of taxing and
(44:30):
slowing down the economy. I will end on that note,
and I will let you norm finish it up.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Okay, at the end of the day. I mean I
have many, many friends who are Republicans. I know their
heart's in the right place, and you know, we don't
talk politics because we know that that that's not going
to be a good discussion. But at the end of
the day, my feeling is is that when they get
into the voting booth or when they fill out their form,
(44:58):
when no one else is a and no one can
see who they're going to vote for, and they're never
going to tell because fortunately it's a secret ballot and
no one ever has to tell who they vote for.
But at the end of the day, every they're like
everybody else, they're just sick and tired of the divisiveness
and the name calling and the gutter language of our
(45:22):
leaders that you know, perpiate permeates down to our children.
That at the end of the day, these Republicans, and
they're good people, are going to vote for.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Harris absolutely and normal. End on that note, thank you
so much, my friend for being here today. God bless
America and we'll see you again soon.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Thank you and good luck to everybody.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Good stuff there from Norm Blumenthal. Norm Blumenthal is an
attorney who specialized in helping workers and consumers. And just
I tell you, I've known Norm for almost ten years
and his heart is is is a big heart. He
is a successful individual, and he wants everybody else to
(46:08):
be successful. He doesn't mind paying higher taxes if it's
going to help his community. Very much analogous to Warren Buffett,
you know warm Buffett says taxes, if they are spend correctly,
will help the community. So Norm puts his money where
(46:29):
his mouth is. And ladies and gentlemen, I love our country.
I want everyone to have the American dream, whatever that
means to you. I do not believe in my heart
of hearts that Trump has any love for our country.
He does not care about your success, and most politicians don't.
(46:53):
But I urge you to consider, prayer fully, consider voting
for mss Harris. Either way, your vote's important, so get
out there and cast your vote. Remember you were created
to succeed.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
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