February 4, 2025 • 41 mins
Norm Blumenthal - an attorney for workers and consumers. Selected as one of the Top Attorneys in Southern California. Norm was inducted and recognized as one of America's Most Trusted Lawyers in Employment Law.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome. I'm super glad you're here on the show today,
Norm Blumenthal. Norm Blumenthal is an attorney for workers and
consumers like you and I. He helps the average guy,
the working class stiff, the mom and pop entrepreneur. Norm
is the guy selected as one of the top attorneys
in Southern California. Norm was also inducted and recognized as
(00:29):
one of America's most trusted lawyers in employment law. Norm Blumenthal,
welcome back to be back Bert.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Interesting times. The election's over and away we go.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
And tonight tonight today, I want to talk about what
you see is what you get.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
And I think everything Trump said he was going to do,
he's doing, whether.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
You like it or not, and whether it's legal or not.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
But I think that, yeah, that's kind of an aside.
I don't think he's worried about that at this point.
He's just firing all the attorneys he didn't like anyway,
So it's going to be a bit of an authoritarian regime.
I expect he's thinking about a third term and the
(01:20):
fourth term, and.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
He's got a lot of money and he wants to
keep running. So you know, this show may not end
when we expect it to. In another four years or so,
So hold onto your hats. He's not accepting the fact
that he's a two term president, but let's look at you.
(01:43):
As long as we're here and he's president, we've got
to look at what he's done and what he's doing.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
And he's lived up to everything he said he's going
to do. Whether you like it or not, he did
win a fair election. No one's claiming that it was,
and so we have to live with a majority rule.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
So the first thing he's doing is which is prevalent
out here in San Diego. He's taking into custody and
repatriating persons who are here illegally, and that's what should happen.
People should come through the system legally. I don't think
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there's any reason that they need to go illegally. There's
plenty of jobs, but the ramifications of it are if
you own a restaurant and your dishwasher and line cook
and table cleaner are no longer there because they've been repatriated,
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it doesn't just affect their job. It affects the jobs
of the waitress, uh, the cashiers, the chefs, and other
workers in the restaurant because now somebody's got to do
those jobs, and there's nobody there to do them, so
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you have to go out and hire them.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
So you're you're going to hire them from other restaurants.
And then how do you hire somebody from another restaurant.
You got to pay them more. So, the concept that
we're not going to live in an inflationary world just
doesn't exist here.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Absolutely, and and uh, not only are you talking about restaurants,
but let's let's look at I think the the issue
that we had before, and I believe in the first
Trump term when he went ballistic on on immigrants and whatever,
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we had crops that were going rotting, rotten or bad
because there were no workers to harvest the crops. And
so he's trying to do a he's fighting a tariff
war with Mexico, which seems to be maybe he's going
to let that slide for now, excuse me for now.
(04:25):
But still, you know, to your point, if there are
no laborers in the kitchen and there's no labor in
the crops to pick the crops, our food costs are
going to skyrocket.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah, right in las or fourteen dollars a dozen. There's
no one to work the chicken coops and it's also
the chicken virus or something rolling around there, and they
had to slaughter a bunch of birds unfortunately and couldn't
use them. And so there's a lot of issues happening
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at the same time. And then Trump has this notion
that tariffs did not affect the price of goods sould.
I don't know where he gets this idea, and maybe
he doesn't have that idea, but I know what he's thinking.
(05:24):
My speculation is is that if there's a tariff, those
funds go to the government. Okay, So he wants to
have more money in the government's hands. So one way
he's going to do it is through tariffs. So he
puts those on and he collects that at the port
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of entry. As far as he's concerned, what it costs
the consumer is another issue, and where they take it
from is another issue. So he's not seeing it as inflationary.
I just don't get it. It looks to me like
everything he's doing, the net effect is going to be
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prices will go up. There will be plenty of jobs
but no one to fill them, and we'll live with
higher prices across the boards from tariffs and lack of
personnel to fill jobs. So I think that the expectation,
(06:30):
at least from my standpoint is as I expect that
prices will go up is in the first round.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Oh absolutely, I think as you pointed out, I think
Trump is is you know, like a lot of times
he doesn't want to he doesn't want to accept that
what he's doing could hurt other people, or he certainly
doesn't care one way or the other. Right, it's just
about him being able to say, look, I've kept my promise.
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I got all these charuffs going and this and that.
I think that again, when you start looking at the
Hispanic immigrant, which for the most part are hardworking people
who send money home, what's interesting to me, norm is
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that he has not made any mention of all the
other illegal immigrants that come over.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I think sixty Minutes did a report where twenty percent
of the illegal immigrants coming over the Mexican border are
from China, and I think that poses a bigger threat.
China is an enemy. They certainly have done everything they
can to send us toxic foods and furniture I'm sorry,
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sheet rock, and lumber and you name it, honey, and
it list goes on. These guys are are not good
citizens and and that to me is a bigger concern,
and maybe he'll do something about that. But bottom line is,
when you look at right now, whether you like it
or not, and I know there's a lot of people
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out there who are who feel victimized, they feel marginalized.
They they they feel as though maybe their life is
not going the way they want and they're and they're
looking to place that frustration in that anger and that hate.
And I think Mexican people or illegal aliens uh Latinos
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is good as place as any We've seen this his
you know throughout history when over and over again people
are looking to blame somebody, and and so when you
look at all the sectors that are affected by these
hardworking people, worry. He talked about restaurants, there's the crops,
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there's the hotel industry, there's the construction industry, there's the
transportation industry. The list is massive, and it's going to
be interesting to see who who Trump blames when we
see double digit inflations again.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Today. I just saw earlier in the day he suspended
the government payment for grants and so he except for
Social Security and Medicare. He took that out and so
I don't quite know what that means yet. I hadn't
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been able to have the time to explore it. But
he's frozen he's frozen expenses. You know, I don't want
to speculate on what part of it it is, but
you know, you have all these NGOs that get their
funding through the federal government right depending that, and you
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know all the non governmental organizations will have no funding.
So I don't know what that's going to do and
how many people that's going to put out a work
until they get that straighten out, or whether or not
it will happen at all. You know, we don't quite
know what he does we will actually happen. He called
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Columbia's bluff, and that certainly said Colombia back on whether
or not they're going to do anything. So they're accepting
all of the returnees, and he's going to return these persons.
There was a group of Venezuelans. He took everybody from
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the bar. I guess it was alleged that there was
Venezuelan and.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Some type of trained group that was illegal, and so
the way they went, so you know, they're out there putting.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
People on airplanes and sending it back, and at some
point the lack of personnel will have to have its effect.
I think it, you know, will it's just numbers. But
from a labor standpoint, the good news is those people
that are here legally and our citizens and we're born
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here hopefully that's not going to change, will be entitled
to more funds. I mean, they're going to demand higher wages,
there's no question about it, and so that's going to
lead to inflation. So where we end up remains to be.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Seen well, and I think that we have to look
at what's going on. I think again from a due
process and obviously I'm not an attorney, but you are,
norm and my understanding, when it comes to things like deportation,
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usually there's a process for that. They have to verify
the circumstances. I envision that sooner or later Trump and
his uh what do we call it, his border saw
there or whatever the guy's name, is going to accidentally
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deport some US citizens as well as some lawfully legal
people because in that instance, they may not be able
to prove that they're a citizen, they may not be
able to prove that they're here legally, and so it's
it's going to cause some legal ramifications. Again, not that
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he's gonna care, that Trump's gonna care, but when you're
doing this kind of crazy over the top, I want
to say, you know, I think it's illegal just because
there's there's no there's no overseers, there's no there's no
judge saying Okay, this is right, this is wrong. They're
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just you know, getting rid of everybody they can regardless.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yeah, you know, and and don't I think for a
minute that when the issue of citizenship comes before the
United States Supreme Court that they're not going to rule
in favor of Trump's interpretation of citizenship as you know,
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being born here. They're going to exclude persons who are
born here to any illegal resident as not being citizens.
It could very well happen. This is what happened to
the Second Amendment on guns. From the beginning of time
all the way through until the DC case not too
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many years ago, everybody thought.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
That gun controls in the hands of the states, and
they had the right to protect their citizens from use
of guns, until the Supreme.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Court said, now you don't. Second Amendment trumps all your laws,
and people can carry guns open carry and large guns
and ar fifteens. And that's just recent law from the
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Trump Court, and you can very well see that on
citizenship too. So the net effect would be even less
citizens to go around for the jobs and labor us
they're going to go up. And we you know, we
started these shows bert the minimum well minimum wage is
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still seven dollars and fifty cents, but all the states
enacted the higher minimum wages. California is now fifteen dollars plus.
And you're going to see there's no reason that you know,
a good dishwasher can't get twenty five dollars an hour, right,
and that's and you know that's a living wage.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
So maybe at the end of the day, we're going
to be moving up to a living wage.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
And persons who are legally here or will have these
these jobs, because Trump is pretty clear that he's not
after persons who are legally here. You know, this group
of engineers that all of the Bilicott Valley hires in
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h one permals who wants to keep you wide open,
and so that's going to continue to go and will
continue to have persons in here, persons here legally and
in school here legally. So there's a lot of things here,
(16:17):
and all of the points to higher wages, more job
and availability, and less persons to fill these positions.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah, this is going to be upsetting for a lot
of people because we're going to have a double or
possibly even a triple standard. Hey, we're going to get
rid of immigrants. Unless it affects some of my donors,
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some of my contacts. And we've seen that the big
seven tech firms have kissed the ring, Amazon, Google, Facebook, Meta,
whatever you want to call him. They've all lined up
(17:12):
to avoid his wrath because they know that President Trump
does not play by any set of normal rules, that
he is unhinged, and that at any minute now his
ire could be focused on you or your family, your children,
your company, your and who wants that?
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah, you know, and the government's not it's not going
to help out. I mean, they've just heard yesterday that okay,
if you're a victim of the fire and your house
burned down in the Palisades or Alta Dina, that if
you want the government to corp of engineers to scrape
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your land of all and get it back to the
point where you're ready to build, they'll do it for free.
But the process will take eighteen months, or you can
do it yourself or have your insurance company do it,
and you can start tomorrow. So there's a big flaw
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in the system as how they can get these areas
back up and running, because the first thing they have
to do is removed and the burnt materials from all
these lots, and it should be if they're going to
do it, the corp of engineers should get out there
tomorrow and start cleaning these lots off and then worry
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about who's going to pay later. There's gonna be plenty
of lawsuits charging the electric company and the city and
the state with claims and besides everything else along with
the insurance. They're talking now about two hundred and seventy
five billion dollars in losses. And they've interviewed some insurance
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experts and apparently the insurance companies that should buy your
insurance from they have had very little of the actual risk.
That risk has been spread around the world through reinsurance,
and it's in the world scheme of things through reinsurance.
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Two hundred and seventy five to three hundred billion dollars
spread around the world is a manageable number. It's not
that big a deal because the insurance companies themselves, they
take very little of the risk. They're in the business
of brokery policies but not accepting risks because that's the
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way insurance business works, right, So that's where where you're headed.
But there's no reason for there to be these kind
of delays. That's another problem.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
And then it's fighting somebody that's going to actually get
out there.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
And clean these and scrape these lots. Where's the personnel
coming from, who's going to get out there in the
hazmat suit to do the work? And where is the
hasmat material? Once it's scraped, where does it go? So
there's a tremendous amount of holes in the system there.
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But if you want to get it done, you're going
to pay. So you know, it won't be one hundred
and seventy five thousand, maybe it's two hundred and fifty thousand,
but at least you're in the system where you're in
a position to rebuild. So that's all. It's not a
big number, but that's all part of the system. That's
just it's not working. You know, you just can't go
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and pull people out of their jobs. They interviewed a
fellow been here nineteen years, you know, working and then
he was on the Guatemala airplanes and they interviewed him
when he landed, and the question was are you a citizen? No,
you have a green card? No, are you going to
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stay in Guatemala or are you going to go back?
I'll go back, you know, it speaks perfect English. I'm
trying to get my job back. So there's going to
be some matriculation back to.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
The country from those that were there, and some people will.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
Not come back either, Right, but this is going to
be the The immigration issue is the standalone, biggest issue
of that Trump won the election on, and he's.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Going to deliver absolutely no. He has to. Look, he
delivered for the insurrectionists, the January six ers. He allowed
people who were murderers. I mean, these people killed three
or four police officers, one hundred plus people were injured,
and he had no hesitation in releasing them. And we're
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going to see a bunch. I kind of betting that
we're going to see about twenty to thirty percent of
all these of the most radical January sixth people I
believe will eventually get re arrested on a completely different
set of crimes because now they're emboldened, they believe that
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the president is going to watch their back and take
care of them. I think one of the guys who
was pardoned immediately was rearrested on some kind of gun
charges or gun related crimes, and so that I think
is going to be an ongoing thing. And every time
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that one of these guys gets re arrested, you're going
to get an earfull from President Trump and his followers,
and it's just going to be a constant, never ending battle.
To your point, norm We're never ever going to get
rid of Trump until he passes away, and that's just
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what it is. So whether he gets a third term
or not, he's always going to interfere. He's always going
to be a thorn in the side of the law
of justice. He is forever changed politics, and not in
a good way. I mean, at least at one point,
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there was a certain level of diplomacy, there was a
certain level of let's work together. Now it's all of
that is evaporated and it's just constant combative you know,
what do you call it? Scorched earth kind of mentality.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Yeah, he's you know, remember again, the Supreme Court had
a lot to do with all of this. In regard
to guns, it was Fella versus the United States, and
regard to the powers that Trump has the president has,
they ruled in US versus Trump that his powers are
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are unlimited while he's in office basically, and you know,
he could decide what he wants to do, and part
of that unlimited power is potentially stay in office and
cancel the election. So you really, unfortunately, there's some real
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parallels here between the follow the republic from in Roman
times when Caesar took over and now, because the republic
is only as good as the person's in it, and
it's very precarious, and how long it'll last, we don't know,
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but I think it inflation goes the way that some
people are talking. You know, he may not be in
office that you know, that lot much longer because people
just won't be able to afford to have him in office.
I mean, we may need some controls on our debt,
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federal debt, and we may need some controls on the
workforce as to who can stay and who can go
once it's determined that they don't have citizenship but they
do have a job or and they've been here plus
you know, ten plus years and work that there needs
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to be a process for those persons, differently from the
process of persons who have been convicted of criminal activity
and those persons that just arrived. So there's a process
that reasonable people can agree to that will keep the
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persons working who have been working in paying taxes and
have no reason to be sure they came here illegally
or their parents came here illegally, but you know, what
have they done, and if they've been good citizens, that
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has to mean something. Right now, under Trump's policy, it
means nothing. This guy that's been working here, paying his
taxes for nineteen years and he's back in Guatemala because
he started out he wasn't a citizen when he started. Well,
there has to be some credit given to people like that.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
And hopefully the cooler heads will prevail and the policy
that Trumps starting will be in place and secure of
the borders.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
But how we deal with persons that are arrested should
be on some form of a case by case basis.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
And I agree. Look, you know, and I've talked about this
multiple times, the immigrant worker is essential to our economy.
I don't think you'll find any economists that would argue
different to that, And I think that it's very easy
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to fix. All you have to do is set up
some kind of worker visa program where these people can
come over do the work. We know who they are,
they can pay taxes, they can they can do everything
they're supposed to do legally because they're on a worker visa.
And because you know that there there may be some
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additional fees or would call additional costs these visas, you
know you could charge for that obviously and say okay,
listen for a twelve month visa. It's X Y Z,
and then you can renew it, and that renewal is
based on being in good standing. You know, during that
twelve month period, you get arrested, you don't get a renewal,
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you get booted out. So there's there's so many ways
to do this where it helps our economy. It helps
the restaurant industry, the construction industry, the transportation industry, the
farming industry, and these are all industries where right now
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there isn't enough people to do the work that they
begin with. I mean, you know, we hear every day
that there's like five hundred thousand train jobs that are
going unfulfilled. We're talking plumbing, carpentry and so on, and
getting rid of all of these people again is just
going to exacerbate this situation.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Well, the carpenter, the plumber, the architect, the designer, the
general contractor, the investor. They can't build a house unless
they have the laborer to carry the wood, you know,
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do the backbreaking work right.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
And you take those people out of the equation, you
take the house construction out of the equation.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
That's another area. Also, if you're going to have a
trade war with Canada and you know you're going to
be there and you're going to put tariffs on lumber
and all of a sudden, it's going to cost a
heck of a lot more to build a house. So,
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you know, we do a lot of business with Canada.
And you know, like Canada, I live in San Diego.
People cross the border every day, come to San Diego
to work and then go home at night and live
into Juanna. Right. If it works, I mean that's you know,
that's how people do things, and there's no reason it
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can't be done on a bigger scale so that there's
enough workers together.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
There's eight million jobs now that we can't find people
to work on the situation will be exacerbated with this.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Program where good hard working people are repatriated to their
country of origin because they didn't come here legally, and
we're the government's turning a blind eye to what they
are doing. You know, obviously, would Biden during three years
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of his term was doing, was just letting people come
across with no planned process, people from Latin American, people
from China, since Southeast Asia, so it was a ban.
He exaccerbated the situation. And the reason he lost the
election or he didn't wasn't even there is he did nothing.
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He deserved to lose, and Trump was there to accept
the victory and he played all the cards correctly.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
But now it becomes there's a big difference between winning
an election and governing right.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
And his plan of government is through executive orders, and
sometimes you go a little bit too far, and I
think in the end, hopefully they'll realize that the process,
you know, the pendulum swung too far the other way,
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and good people are being expert batriated. They should be
have a pant to stay here and work. They don't
have to be citizens and We've talked about this, but
certainly they should have a work permit for while they're here,
and if they don't have work and then they don't
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have any reason to still be here.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Absolutely, absolutely, you know, and I've said this before. Look,
I just think that that President Trump lacks a lot
of leadership skills. I'm not saying he's one hundred percent zero,
but when you go through a list of things like
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emotional intelligence, problem solving, gills, delegation, you know, building relationships,
servant leadership, integrity, empathy, decisiveness, effective communication, all of the
you go down through a list things like accountability, none,
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none of these things either he scores zero or he
scores very very low on. Does he have confidence?
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Is he able to paint a picture? Sometimes absolutely, even
though as we've seen time and time again, sometimes they're
not founded in truth or fact. I think that we
have a situation where where you've already mentioned that the
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US Supreme Court is giving him a wide latitude, a
wide you know, wide latitude, and so he's going to
dismantle or get rid of anybody that's either a Democrat,
who's a civil servant who's either a Democrat, or if
he thinks this person may object or not be quote loyal,
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he's you know, they're going to get rid of all
of these people. I think what's going to happen is
you're going to see a lot of government corruption. And
some people say, well, the government's already been corrupted, Well,
you're going to see it worse. And so if you
think that our government's corruption was was a ten, now
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it'll be a twenty because you're going to have all
these people who believe that they can do no wrong
because they got this protection. And I think that you know,
I was on a show and I and one of
the things that I believe will happen and we've already
seen it, is that you're going to have problems because
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let me tell you, Elon Musk Donald Trump both have
a very large ego. They they both think that they're
right uh there, and sooner or later they're going to
I assume or I believe that Trump will will get
rid of Musk and anybody else that gets any kind
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of creditor or or spotlight.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Vivid Ramaswami is already left because he see what he saw,
the writing on the wall, and and so you have
all of these big egos, and it makes it hard
for people to work together when all they care about
is themselves. I have high hopes that RFK might be
(35:42):
able to do some good with our with our food.
I think our food does need some some overhauling because
there's a lot of ingredients that's hurting people in our foods,
all these red dyes and all these preservatives that seem
to do very well in your meaning. Just to clarify,
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these ingredients and these preservatives, these red dyes are not
allowed in Europe, and they sell the products without the
red dyes or the bad dyes and the preservatives just
as well in Europe as they do here. And so
why has our FDA allowed these terrible ingredients to be
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allowed to continue in our foods? Because they get they
get paid. There's just the way our government works right now.
I think that again, I hope that RFK can do something,
and I hope that Elon Musk can do something, because look,
I don't think anybody will argue that we need to
fine tune our government. It needs to be more efficient.
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What's interesting to me, Norman, you and I have talked
about this before. You have the corn industry, the sugar industry,
the beef industry, and there's a few more that get
massive government subsidies. And these are all wealthy, profitable industries.
They know they do not need government subsidies, and so
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it's going to be interesting to see what happens there.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Yeah, I just happened today is I don't have all
the information, but apparently Trump is canceling all of the
government contracts with NGOs, non government organizations, and it's a
tremendous amount of money spent through NGOs and you cancel
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all of that. And I don't know the extent of it,
but if he wants to save money, you can. But
I think a lot of organizations that do the work
of government is not done by government employees. It's done
by NGOs that you know, different departments hired different groups
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to do the work for them. So I don't know
the extent of it, and hopefully it won't be that extensive,
but it sounded pretty serious. And you know, Trump paints
with a big brush.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
He does, he does, and so you know, just just
look at what the what the AP wire has come
out right just today, at least fifty six senior officials
in the top US eight and Development agency replaced on
leave amid investigation into an alleged effort to dwart President
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Trump's orders. So again, if they're not going to be
loyal to Trump, they're going to be booted out. He's
not interested in anybody else's opinion. He's not interested in
working with anyone else. It's it's his way or the highway, right.
And so Trump is also suspended aid to to Ukraine.
(38:58):
No doubt he did that because I'm assuming Russia, you know,
might have influenced him somehow. There is no good reason
not to help Ukraine, you know, fight off Russia.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
And so.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
He is, uh, he's rescinding federal funds on all. You know, again,
a bunch of different programs, and some of them are
are critical. I'm a big believer that we need to
help Ukraine, and you know, again, we're gonna see what happens.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
I think it's gonna be an interesting four years plus.
But if you reach your history, republics are or sensitive
political organizations, and it's they're easily unfortunately overthrown. And I
think we're will know more as we go. But Trump
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is it has all of the attributes of a caesar,
and so it could be a tough time with you know,
inflationary spiral. That's that's that we could be facing. But
in terms of dollars, I think it's good for labor
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that people that are work here and working hard are
going to be making more because there'll be less often.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Yeah, absolutely that that that could be a plus. Norm
arount of time as always, my friend. Good to have
you here, looking forward to have you back again soon.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Okay, Bert, This pleasure having good.
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welcome back to be back Bert.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Interesting times. The election's over and away we go.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
And tonight tonight today, I want to talk about what
you see is what you get.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
And I think everything Trump said he was going to do,
he's doing, whether.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
You like it or not, and whether it's legal or not.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
But I think that, yeah, that's kind of an aside.
I don't think he's worried about that at this point.
He's just firing all the attorneys he didn't like anyway,
So it's going to be a bit of an authoritarian regime.
I expect he's thinking about a third term and the
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fourth term, and.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
He's got a lot of money and he wants to
keep running. So you know, this show may not end
when we expect it to. In another four years or so,
So hold onto your hats. He's not accepting the fact
that he's a two term president, but let's look at you.
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As long as we're here and he's president, we've got
to look at what he's done and what he's doing.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
And he's lived up to everything he said he's going
to do. Whether you like it or not, he did
win a fair election. No one's claiming that it was,
and so we have to live with a majority rule.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
So the first thing he's doing is which is prevalent
out here in San Diego. He's taking into custody and
repatriating persons who are here illegally, and that's what should happen.
People should come through the system legally. I don't think
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there's any reason that they need to go illegally. There's
plenty of jobs, but the ramifications of it are if
you own a restaurant and your dishwasher and line cook
and table cleaner are no longer there because they've been repatriated,
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it doesn't just affect their job. It affects the jobs
of the waitress, uh, the cashiers, the chefs, and other
workers in the restaurant because now somebody's got to do
those jobs, and there's nobody there to do them, so
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you have to go out and hire them.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
So you're you're going to hire them from other restaurants.
And then how do you hire somebody from another restaurant.
You got to pay them more. So, the concept that
we're not going to live in an inflationary world just
doesn't exist here.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Absolutely, and and uh, not only are you talking about restaurants,
but let's let's look at I think the the issue
that we had before, and I believe in the first
Trump term when he went ballistic on on immigrants and whatever,
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we had crops that were going rotting, rotten or bad
because there were no workers to harvest the crops. And
so he's trying to do a he's fighting a tariff
war with Mexico, which seems to be maybe he's going
to let that slide for now, excuse me for now.
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But still, you know, to your point, if there are
no laborers in the kitchen and there's no labor in
the crops to pick the crops, our food costs are
going to skyrocket.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah, right in las or fourteen dollars a dozen. There's
no one to work the chicken coops and it's also
the chicken virus or something rolling around there, and they
had to slaughter a bunch of birds unfortunately and couldn't
use them. And so there's a lot of issues happening
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at the same time. And then Trump has this notion
that tariffs did not affect the price of goods sould.
I don't know where he gets this idea, and maybe
he doesn't have that idea, but I know what he's thinking.
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My speculation is is that if there's a tariff, those
funds go to the government. Okay, So he wants to
have more money in the government's hands. So one way
he's going to do it is through tariffs. So he
puts those on and he collects that at the port
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of entry. As far as he's concerned, what it costs
the consumer is another issue, and where they take it
from is another issue. So he's not seeing it as inflationary.
I just don't get it. It looks to me like
everything he's doing, the net effect is going to be
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prices will go up. There will be plenty of jobs
but no one to fill them, and we'll live with
higher prices across the boards from tariffs and lack of
personnel to fill jobs. So I think that the expectation,
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at least from my standpoint is as I expect that
prices will go up is in the first round.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Oh absolutely, I think as you pointed out, I think
Trump is is you know, like a lot of times
he doesn't want to he doesn't want to accept that
what he's doing could hurt other people, or he certainly
doesn't care one way or the other. Right, it's just
about him being able to say, look, I've kept my promise.
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I got all these charuffs going and this and that.
I think that again, when you start looking at the
Hispanic immigrant, which for the most part are hardworking people
who send money home, what's interesting to me, norm is
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that he has not made any mention of all the
other illegal immigrants that come over.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I think sixty Minutes did a report where twenty percent
of the illegal immigrants coming over the Mexican border are
from China, and I think that poses a bigger threat.
China is an enemy. They certainly have done everything they
can to send us toxic foods and furniture I'm sorry,
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sheet rock, and lumber and you name it, honey, and
it list goes on. These guys are are not good
citizens and and that to me is a bigger concern,
and maybe he'll do something about that. But bottom line is,
when you look at right now, whether you like it
or not, and I know there's a lot of people
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out there who are who feel victimized, they feel marginalized.
They they they feel as though maybe their life is
not going the way they want and they're and they're
looking to place that frustration in that anger and that hate.
And I think Mexican people or illegal aliens uh Latinos
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is good as place as any We've seen this his
you know throughout history when over and over again people
are looking to blame somebody, and and so when you
look at all the sectors that are affected by these
hardworking people, worry. He talked about restaurants, there's the crops,
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there's the hotel industry, there's the construction industry, there's the
transportation industry. The list is massive, and it's going to
be interesting to see who who Trump blames when we
see double digit inflations again.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Today. I just saw earlier in the day he suspended
the government payment for grants and so he except for
Social Security and Medicare. He took that out and so
I don't quite know what that means yet. I hadn't
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been able to have the time to explore it. But
he's frozen he's frozen expenses. You know, I don't want
to speculate on what part of it it is, but
you know, you have all these NGOs that get their
funding through the federal government right depending that, and you
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know all the non governmental organizations will have no funding.
So I don't know what that's going to do and
how many people that's going to put out a work
until they get that straighten out, or whether or not
it will happen at all. You know, we don't quite
know what he does we will actually happen. He called
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Columbia's bluff, and that certainly said Colombia back on whether
or not they're going to do anything. So they're accepting
all of the returnees, and he's going to return these persons.
There was a group of Venezuelans. He took everybody from
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the bar. I guess it was alleged that there was
Venezuelan and.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Some type of trained group that was illegal, and so
the way they went, so you know, they're out there putting.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
People on airplanes and sending it back, and at some
point the lack of personnel will have to have its effect.
I think it, you know, will it's just numbers. But
from a labor standpoint, the good news is those people
that are here legally and our citizens and we're born
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here hopefully that's not going to change, will be entitled
to more funds. I mean, they're going to demand higher wages,
there's no question about it, and so that's going to
lead to inflation. So where we end up remains to be.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Seen well, and I think that we have to look
at what's going on. I think again from a due
process and obviously I'm not an attorney, but you are,
norm and my understanding, when it comes to things like deportation,
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usually there's a process for that. They have to verify
the circumstances. I envision that sooner or later Trump and
his uh what do we call it, his border saw
there or whatever the guy's name, is going to accidentally
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deport some US citizens as well as some lawfully legal
people because in that instance, they may not be able
to prove that they're a citizen, they may not be
able to prove that they're here legally, and so it's
it's going to cause some legal ramifications. Again, not that
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he's gonna care, that Trump's gonna care, but when you're
doing this kind of crazy over the top, I want
to say, you know, I think it's illegal just because
there's there's no there's no overseers, there's no there's no
judge saying Okay, this is right, this is wrong. They're
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just you know, getting rid of everybody they can regardless.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yeah, you know, and and don't I think for a
minute that when the issue of citizenship comes before the
United States Supreme Court that they're not going to rule
in favor of Trump's interpretation of citizenship as you know,
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being born here. They're going to exclude persons who are
born here to any illegal resident as not being citizens.
It could very well happen. This is what happened to
the Second Amendment on guns. From the beginning of time
all the way through until the DC case not too
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many years ago, everybody thought.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
That gun controls in the hands of the states, and
they had the right to protect their citizens from use
of guns, until the Supreme.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Court said, now you don't. Second Amendment trumps all your laws,
and people can carry guns open carry and large guns
and ar fifteens. And that's just recent law from the
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Trump Court, and you can very well see that on
citizenship too. So the net effect would be even less
citizens to go around for the jobs and labor us
they're going to go up. And we you know, we
started these shows bert the minimum well minimum wage is
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still seven dollars and fifty cents, but all the states
enacted the higher minimum wages. California is now fifteen dollars plus.
And you're going to see there's no reason that you know,
a good dishwasher can't get twenty five dollars an hour, right,
and that's and you know that's a living wage.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
So maybe at the end of the day, we're going
to be moving up to a living wage.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
And persons who are legally here or will have these
these jobs, because Trump is pretty clear that he's not
after persons who are legally here. You know, this group
of engineers that all of the Bilicott Valley hires in
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h one permals who wants to keep you wide open,
and so that's going to continue to go and will
continue to have persons in here, persons here legally and
in school here legally. So there's a lot of things here,
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and all of the points to higher wages, more job
and availability, and less persons to fill these positions.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah, this is going to be upsetting for a lot
of people because we're going to have a double or
possibly even a triple standard. Hey, we're going to get
rid of immigrants. Unless it affects some of my donors,
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some of my contacts. And we've seen that the big
seven tech firms have kissed the ring, Amazon, Google, Facebook, Meta,
whatever you want to call him. They've all lined up
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to avoid his wrath because they know that President Trump
does not play by any set of normal rules, that
he is unhinged, and that at any minute now his
ire could be focused on you or your family, your children,
your company, your and who wants that?
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah, you know, and the government's not it's not going
to help out. I mean, they've just heard yesterday that okay,
if you're a victim of the fire and your house
burned down in the Palisades or Alta Dina, that if
you want the government to corp of engineers to scrape
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your land of all and get it back to the
point where you're ready to build, they'll do it for free.
But the process will take eighteen months, or you can
do it yourself or have your insurance company do it,
and you can start tomorrow. So there's a big flaw
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in the system as how they can get these areas
back up and running, because the first thing they have
to do is removed and the burnt materials from all
these lots, and it should be if they're going to
do it, the corp of engineers should get out there
tomorrow and start cleaning these lots off and then worry
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about who's going to pay later. There's gonna be plenty
of lawsuits charging the electric company and the city and
the state with claims and besides everything else along with
the insurance. They're talking now about two hundred and seventy
five billion dollars in losses. And they've interviewed some insurance
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experts and apparently the insurance companies that should buy your
insurance from they have had very little of the actual risk.
That risk has been spread around the world through reinsurance,
and it's in the world scheme of things through reinsurance.
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Two hundred and seventy five to three hundred billion dollars
spread around the world is a manageable number. It's not
that big a deal because the insurance companies themselves, they
take very little of the risk. They're in the business
of brokery policies but not accepting risks because that's the
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way insurance business works, right, So that's where where you're headed.
But there's no reason for there to be these kind
of delays. That's another problem.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
And then it's fighting somebody that's going to actually get
out there.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
And clean these and scrape these lots. Where's the personnel
coming from, who's going to get out there in the
hazmat suit to do the work? And where is the
hasmat material? Once it's scraped, where does it go? So
there's a tremendous amount of holes in the system there.
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But if you want to get it done, you're going
to pay. So you know, it won't be one hundred
and seventy five thousand, maybe it's two hundred and fifty thousand,
but at least you're in the system where you're in
a position to rebuild. So that's all. It's not a
big number, but that's all part of the system. That's
just it's not working. You know, you just can't go
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and pull people out of their jobs. They interviewed a
fellow been here nineteen years, you know, working and then
he was on the Guatemala airplanes and they interviewed him
when he landed, and the question was are you a citizen? No,
you have a green card? No, are you going to
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stay in Guatemala or are you going to go back?
I'll go back, you know, it speaks perfect English. I'm
trying to get my job back. So there's going to
be some matriculation back to.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
The country from those that were there, and some people will.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
Not come back either, Right, but this is going to
be the The immigration issue is the standalone, biggest issue
of that Trump won the election on, and he's.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Going to deliver absolutely no. He has to. Look, he
delivered for the insurrectionists, the January six ers. He allowed
people who were murderers. I mean, these people killed three
or four police officers, one hundred plus people were injured,
and he had no hesitation in releasing them. And we're
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going to see a bunch. I kind of betting that
we're going to see about twenty to thirty percent of
all these of the most radical January sixth people I
believe will eventually get re arrested on a completely different
set of crimes because now they're emboldened, they believe that
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the president is going to watch their back and take
care of them. I think one of the guys who
was pardoned immediately was rearrested on some kind of gun
charges or gun related crimes, and so that I think
is going to be an ongoing thing. And every time
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that one of these guys gets re arrested, you're going
to get an earfull from President Trump and his followers,
and it's just going to be a constant, never ending battle.
To your point, norm We're never ever going to get
rid of Trump until he passes away, and that's just
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what it is. So whether he gets a third term
or not, he's always going to interfere. He's always going
to be a thorn in the side of the law
of justice. He is forever changed politics, and not in
a good way. I mean, at least at one point,
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there was a certain level of diplomacy, there was a
certain level of let's work together. Now it's all of
that is evaporated and it's just constant combative you know,
what do you call it? Scorched earth kind of mentality.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Yeah, he's you know, remember again, the Supreme Court had
a lot to do with all of this. In regard
to guns, it was Fella versus the United States, and
regard to the powers that Trump has the president has,
they ruled in US versus Trump that his powers are
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are unlimited while he's in office basically, and you know,
he could decide what he wants to do, and part
of that unlimited power is potentially stay in office and
cancel the election. So you really, unfortunately, there's some real
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parallels here between the follow the republic from in Roman
times when Caesar took over and now, because the republic
is only as good as the person's in it, and
it's very precarious, and how long it'll last, we don't know,
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but I think it inflation goes the way that some
people are talking. You know, he may not be in
office that you know, that lot much longer because people
just won't be able to afford to have him in office.
I mean, we may need some controls on our debt,
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federal debt, and we may need some controls on the
workforce as to who can stay and who can go
once it's determined that they don't have citizenship but they
do have a job or and they've been here plus
you know, ten plus years and work that there needs
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to be a process for those persons, differently from the
process of persons who have been convicted of criminal activity
and those persons that just arrived. So there's a process
that reasonable people can agree to that will keep the
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persons working who have been working in paying taxes and
have no reason to be sure they came here illegally
or their parents came here illegally, but you know, what
have they done, and if they've been good citizens, that
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has to mean something. Right now, under Trump's policy, it
means nothing. This guy that's been working here, paying his
taxes for nineteen years and he's back in Guatemala because
he started out he wasn't a citizen when he started. Well,
there has to be some credit given to people like that.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
And hopefully the cooler heads will prevail and the policy
that Trumps starting will be in place and secure of
the borders.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
But how we deal with persons that are arrested should
be on some form of a case by case basis.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
And I agree. Look, you know, and I've talked about this
multiple times, the immigrant worker is essential to our economy.
I don't think you'll find any economists that would argue
different to that, And I think that it's very easy
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to fix. All you have to do is set up
some kind of worker visa program where these people can
come over do the work. We know who they are,
they can pay taxes, they can they can do everything
they're supposed to do legally because they're on a worker visa.
And because you know that there there may be some
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additional fees or would call additional costs these visas, you
know you could charge for that obviously and say okay,
listen for a twelve month visa. It's X Y Z,
and then you can renew it, and that renewal is
based on being in good standing. You know, during that
twelve month period, you get arrested, you don't get a renewal,
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you get booted out. So there's there's so many ways
to do this where it helps our economy. It helps
the restaurant industry, the construction industry, the transportation industry, the
farming industry, and these are all industries where right now
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there isn't enough people to do the work that they
begin with. I mean, you know, we hear every day
that there's like five hundred thousand train jobs that are
going unfulfilled. We're talking plumbing, carpentry and so on, and
getting rid of all of these people again is just
going to exacerbate this situation.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Well, the carpenter, the plumber, the architect, the designer, the
general contractor, the investor. They can't build a house unless
they have the laborer to carry the wood, you know,
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do the backbreaking work right.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
And you take those people out of the equation, you
take the house construction out of the equation.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
That's another area. Also, if you're going to have a
trade war with Canada and you know you're going to
be there and you're going to put tariffs on lumber
and all of a sudden, it's going to cost a
heck of a lot more to build a house. So,
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you know, we do a lot of business with Canada.
And you know, like Canada, I live in San Diego.
People cross the border every day, come to San Diego
to work and then go home at night and live
into Juanna. Right. If it works, I mean that's you know,
that's how people do things, and there's no reason it
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can't be done on a bigger scale so that there's
enough workers together.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
There's eight million jobs now that we can't find people
to work on the situation will be exacerbated with this.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Program where good hard working people are repatriated to their
country of origin because they didn't come here legally, and
we're the government's turning a blind eye to what they
are doing. You know, obviously, would Biden during three years
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of his term was doing, was just letting people come
across with no planned process, people from Latin American, people
from China, since Southeast Asia, so it was a ban.
He exaccerbated the situation. And the reason he lost the
election or he didn't wasn't even there is he did nothing.
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He deserved to lose, and Trump was there to accept
the victory and he played all the cards correctly.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
But now it becomes there's a big difference between winning
an election and governing right.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
And his plan of government is through executive orders, and
sometimes you go a little bit too far, and I
think in the end, hopefully they'll realize that the process,
you know, the pendulum swung too far the other way,
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and good people are being expert batriated. They should be
have a pant to stay here and work. They don't
have to be citizens and We've talked about this, but
certainly they should have a work permit for while they're here,
and if they don't have work and then they don't
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have any reason to still be here.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Absolutely, absolutely, you know, and I've said this before. Look,
I just think that that President Trump lacks a lot
of leadership skills. I'm not saying he's one hundred percent zero,
but when you go through a list of things like
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emotional intelligence, problem solving, gills, delegation, you know, building relationships,
servant leadership, integrity, empathy, decisiveness, effective communication, all of the
you go down through a list things like accountability, none,
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none of these things either he scores zero or he
scores very very low on. Does he have confidence?
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Is he able to paint a picture? Sometimes absolutely, even
though as we've seen time and time again, sometimes they're
not founded in truth or fact. I think that we
have a situation where where you've already mentioned that the
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US Supreme Court is giving him a wide latitude, a
wide you know, wide latitude, and so he's going to
dismantle or get rid of anybody that's either a Democrat,
who's a civil servant who's either a Democrat, or if
he thinks this person may object or not be quote loyal,
(34:12):
he's you know, they're going to get rid of all
of these people. I think what's going to happen is
you're going to see a lot of government corruption. And
some people say, well, the government's already been corrupted, Well,
you're going to see it worse. And so if you
think that our government's corruption was was a ten, now
(34:32):
it'll be a twenty because you're going to have all
these people who believe that they can do no wrong
because they got this protection. And I think that you know,
I was on a show and I and one of
the things that I believe will happen and we've already
seen it, is that you're going to have problems because
(34:57):
let me tell you, Elon Musk Donald Trump both have
a very large ego. They they both think that they're
right uh there, and sooner or later they're going to
I assume or I believe that Trump will will get
rid of Musk and anybody else that gets any kind
(35:17):
of creditor or or spotlight.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Vivid Ramaswami is already left because he see what he saw,
the writing on the wall, and and so you have
all of these big egos, and it makes it hard
for people to work together when all they care about
is themselves. I have high hopes that RFK might be
(35:42):
able to do some good with our with our food.
I think our food does need some some overhauling because
there's a lot of ingredients that's hurting people in our foods,
all these red dyes and all these preservatives that seem
to do very well in your meaning. Just to clarify,
(36:03):
these ingredients and these preservatives, these red dyes are not
allowed in Europe, and they sell the products without the
red dyes or the bad dyes and the preservatives just
as well in Europe as they do here. And so
why has our FDA allowed these terrible ingredients to be
(36:27):
allowed to continue in our foods? Because they get they
get paid. There's just the way our government works right now.
I think that again, I hope that RFK can do something,
and I hope that Elon Musk can do something, because look,
I don't think anybody will argue that we need to
fine tune our government. It needs to be more efficient.
(36:51):
What's interesting to me, Norman, you and I have talked
about this before. You have the corn industry, the sugar industry,
the beef industry, and there's a few more that get
massive government subsidies. And these are all wealthy, profitable industries.
They know they do not need government subsidies, and so
(37:15):
it's going to be interesting to see what happens there.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Yeah, I just happened today is I don't have all
the information, but apparently Trump is canceling all of the
government contracts with NGOs, non government organizations, and it's a
tremendous amount of money spent through NGOs and you cancel
(37:41):
all of that. And I don't know the extent of it,
but if he wants to save money, you can. But
I think a lot of organizations that do the work
of government is not done by government employees. It's done
by NGOs that you know, different departments hired different groups
(38:01):
to do the work for them. So I don't know
the extent of it, and hopefully it won't be that extensive,
but it sounded pretty serious. And you know, Trump paints
with a big brush.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
He does, he does, and so you know, just just
look at what the what the AP wire has come
out right just today, at least fifty six senior officials
in the top US eight and Development agency replaced on
leave amid investigation into an alleged effort to dwart President
(38:37):
Trump's orders. So again, if they're not going to be
loyal to Trump, they're going to be booted out. He's
not interested in anybody else's opinion. He's not interested in
working with anyone else. It's it's his way or the highway, right.
And so Trump is also suspended aid to to Ukraine.
(38:58):
No doubt he did that because I'm assuming Russia, you know,
might have influenced him somehow. There is no good reason
not to help Ukraine, you know, fight off Russia.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
And so.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
He is, uh, he's rescinding federal funds on all. You know, again,
a bunch of different programs, and some of them are
are critical. I'm a big believer that we need to
help Ukraine, and you know, again, we're gonna see what happens.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
I think it's gonna be an interesting four years plus.
But if you reach your history, republics are or sensitive
political organizations, and it's they're easily unfortunately overthrown. And I
think we're will know more as we go. But Trump
(40:07):
is it has all of the attributes of a caesar,
and so it could be a tough time with you know,
inflationary spiral. That's that's that we could be facing. But
in terms of dollars, I think it's good for labor
(40:29):
that people that are work here and working hard are
going to be making more because there'll be less often.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Yeah, absolutely that that that could be a plus. Norm
arount of time as always, my friend. Good to have
you here, looking forward to have you back again soon.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Okay, Bert, This pleasure having good.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Good stuff there from Norm Bloomin, Norm Bloomenthal and you
can find out more about Norm and his team at
BAM law c A dot com bam law c A
dot com. Maybe you completely disagree with what we're saying.
Maybe you think we're I don't know too woo woo.
Maybe you think we're too liberal and love to hear
(41:11):
from you and in a non combative way if you
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