Beyond the Light Barrier - Elizabeth Klarer

We’ve covered alien abductions in the past (several times actually) but here’s one that’s a ‘lil bit different. Elizabeth Klarer was a South African woman who, starting in 1956, publicly claimed to have been contacted by aliens multiple times between 1954 and 1963. Her first visitation supposedly occurred when she was seven, and she was one of the first women to claim a sexual relationship with an extraterrestrial. Okay so… Tune in to find out if this is a well grounded story or as high as the light barrier?

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Episode Transcript

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perfect temperature as you drink it,and it's got a fine tana and the
right the right amount of milk.This in my that's very this cup of
tea I made us, that's veryclose to my perfect chairs. That's I
like, how do you usually likeit? I don't really drink a lot

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of tea is wrong. Drink coffee, man, I live with a South
American. Sure, the Irish no, no for me, hair Now its
our country, our rules break,don't. Yeah, I'm glad Conor McGregor
had never married immigrants that I couldhave got very bad. No, she

(02:06):
drinks horrible tea, drinks coffee andhorrible tea. She's not really into Irish
tea really. Yeah, Well lookedat it like we've we've ruined you could
say, an oriental and oriental tea, which, yes, let's splash some
into this and show the Irish drinkyou know, I mean we stop the
true stop now this is cooked andnot like to be fair, no,

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ever, since I got into coffee, I just it's the buzz off of
coffee and it gives me the samelevel of comfort to give you a revolution
and a mad idea, and youcan drink both. And what I like
coffee better, but you canna haveboth, Like yeah, but would I
if I like coffee better? Becauseyou know, the variety is a spice

(02:51):
of life. I like cork morethan I like a sprice. Sometimes I'll
have a sprice if you feel likea sprice. Then having this right everything,
I'm enjoying your tea now that you'vemade it's very good. I just
prefer coffee for our listeners that don'trealize the actually poured the team to sink

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the first time I met him onand said he doesn't want to I said,
Irish, piss nice one. Whereare you from, fucking mona?
It says the only wants the coffee. No love with the cool cool bean,
the coco bean for hot chocolate aswell coffee and chocolate choo. Of
course, where you from? Yousexy? That song is about a cup

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of It's about would you would youabout coffee? Would you ride tea?
I'd write, yeah, I prefercoffee. I prefer to ever coffee.
But I have both. But youget all fucked up on caffeine though.
Yeah, I I embraced, butI have bold like like it's taste.
If I prefer I like both,I do like both. But brother,

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let's be honest. By ten amin the morning, I'm so caffemated.
I'm shaken. When I'm at work, I walk a tight line, but
I walk it well. Send outof caffeine and true it is only the
difference is about twenty or thirty milligrams. So you're talking like, but if
you're if I'm shooting, I'm datingdoubles, you're se you're not fucking fucking

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t bag. Yeah no, I'llbe doing. I be done. I'll
get a coffee and then put anespresso shot on top of it. I
like to get fucking agitated. Ilike to feel my fucking neck muscles at
me while I'm sitting there. Toomuch coffee is just not got Look,
coffee is. Coffee is very goodfor you. Studies room yank shift studies.
It's not yank. It's South American, all right. That's fucking when

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you're gonna start going around like Amazon, bad dules all around that soon,
I'm gonna be going and they're gonnacall me the new blanket. Blanket twenty
twenty four. Oh Jimmy, youfinally come home. I'm gonna get gold
Bangles bracelet. I have the redhair, so I just need to dye
the skin. We all started playingSecond Megga Drive because that's not America.

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Straight Fighter two where I'm still thebest. Well, we need to revisit
it. You're obviously foundations mechanics leveledup quite a bit. Sorry about this
is really just like Rocky It's fourSorry about that, listeners. I was

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just I was dumbfounded by ems andrather coffe than it's a shocked wow wows
coffee. Coffee is none will beknown as an American drink em and really
well it was until it took overthe entire international drinking. Yeah, even
though it is like coffee is everywhere, of course, but people spend white

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people drinking coffee, you would lookat as being inspired by America, Like
coffee wasn't in the nineties, butI think I think this one was.
I think coffee is one of thosethings where and tea probably as well,
like it is probably a little smalladdiction because it's a little boson it of
course now like but that's what Imean. It's a drug, like you

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stories going on, like maybe theydon't like tea? Yeah, do you

(08:31):
not like tea? Do you prefercoffee? Do you hate coffee? My
dad wouldn't like coffee at all.You know, he's right. I can
get behind Philip. He also doesn'teat vegetables, that's right, which is
fucking bizarre. But anyway, Yeah, he just he only likes tinned peas.
And he's not from the assassine lineage, is he? Or is he?
No? He just eat whatever needsto be He's not of that lineage.

(08:56):
Now that's interesting though. You havelike pure sausage line I have like
eat like a sea of sausages,just slapping me in the face as I
go by. Yeah, have haveyou swam in a sea of sausages?
Monster Podcast at gmail dot com.I would be interested to know has anyone
ever loved an alien? Because thisthis episode is all about a relationship with

(09:22):
a being from a different, differentfucking galaxy, fucking alpha century and ship
like that, and I patron ythis one is a Graham, young young
Graham, young Graham. What aman. He'll always be young. He'll
always for every young I want tobe. Yeah, and this one I

(09:43):
don't know all about it, whichI do enjoy going into at the time.
What's the story? You know what, it's exactly how you think it's
gonna be. So when I saidthis lady is saying she had a relationship
with an alien, it's from SouthAfrica. Right, you can probably you
can probably, yeah, you canprobably put it all together. You'll have
an idea some dubious fucking things shesaid, you'd be like, yeah,

(10:05):
probably not true though, but itis interesting. She She released a book
called Beyond the Light Barrier, whichwas all about like her experiences with to
guess the alien. If you canget the alien, ame, I'll give
you right, I'll give you ahint. The alien that she goes on
to have a little love affair with. Also the name of a rapper,

(10:26):
not a rapper, more an Rand B more a singer. Man Or
and B was probably popular ten tofifteen years ago with a butt his apex
popularity and a name that would workkind of well with an alien. I
was going to say, and thisis a great alien name, but I
don't think he was popular that dollarsyears ago. But I was going to
say Van Ross Vandross seems I don'teven know that is heard some Loutvanras Who

(10:58):
is it's Acon? Oh you know, yeah, ach on the alien.
So we're going to get into itagain. Thanks to Young James for letting
us know about this. Yeah,it's an interesting one. Rob, It's
it's I don't want to give itall away right now. This will go
exactly how you think it will.This is one of those ones. We
got some of our patients suggestions andthey're fantastic, But sometimes the suggestions that

(11:20):
come in you go and research them, and a lot of them folks will
let you know the fucking secret.The start and the end of the information
on that topic comes from a bookwritten by that person. So if you
do not own the book, itbecomes quite difficult to do the notes because

(11:41):
there are no other sources for thisinformation. There's only the one source,
and that is a singular book.So at that point, then what kind
of at least for me, Am, and I don't know what way you
are, but if you've only gotone person saying all this in one book,
with no other information coming from anyoneelse, it kind of becomes just
right away very hard to swallow becauseyou're like right, most of our other

(12:05):
stories and like the things that wedo on the show, as ridiculous as
the sound most of the time,have like now, it might originally come
from the same source, but it'sold enough, there's enough, there's enough
where there's a couple of sources.There's a couple of different interviews man Visually,
Like when I'm doing notes, whatI try to do is I'll open
three or four tabs, all withthe same story, and I'll just pick

(12:28):
pieces and merge it together. Thisone was actually quite difficult. I tried
to look through a few different things. I didn't really go the AI route
because I didn't that wouldn't have givenme anything better than what I had,
if that makes sense, because thisis where AI would have taken it from
the same source most likely, butit's all pretty much from Wikipedia. So
just to let you know at thestart, I have to be upfront about
that. Sorry to James. Obviously, we just didn't have the book didn't

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have We don't really have. Wedon't have enough time to read a full
book a week to try and geton. Unfortunately, I try and read
Tom O'Neill's book about the fucking Mansonfamily at the moment, Chaos. I'm
looking forward to that. I'll doan episode on that because he was a
Yeah, when you do like bookbest and it's like I said, when

(13:13):
I come from like one source,it kind of becomes like a bit goofy
because you're like basically like almost transcribingdifferent parts of the book to like like
he said in this part of thebook, or it becomes like a book
club kind of thing. I agree, don't Yeah, it'd be better.
So you know what the better formatfor that would be our Shaw format wouldn't

(13:33):
suit. But like actually sitting downand reading a book and maybe talking about
on Patreon, like you and Ihave read this book, like on nd
Easy kind of did something a littlebit like that, but like more so
books. Yeah, yeah, sothat'd be cool. But anyway, give
us a little intro and let usknow what the story is. Okay,
so this lady, So I'll gowith the little blurby bit, just a

(13:58):
little bit that you see down ofthe episode. But we've covered alien abductions
in the past. We've done severaldifferent ones. This one, to me
is most similar to Antonio Boras,yeah viaz Boas, the Brazilian guy who
had who loved an alien. Sothis is similar. It doesn't get it.

(14:18):
It doesn't talk about you know,the alien going fucking Colgar alanum and
like nibble and Adam and stuff.We don't get the sexual stuff here.
More of a relationship here. SoElizabeth Clarre. She was a South African
woman who, starting in nineteen fiftysix, publicly claimed to have been contacted
by aliens multiple times between nineteen fiftyfour and nineteen sixty three. Her first

(14:43):
visitation supposedly occurred when she was seven, and she was one of the first
women and she may have been thefirst woman to ever have claimed a sexual
relationship with an extraterrestrial Oh Jesus wept. So her book that she released is
called Beyond the Light Barrier, andthat's got the whole story in it from
her perspective. So Rob tell us, who is this Liz? Yeah,

(15:07):
if you if you're gonna, ifyou want to get that, it's out
there, you know. I don'tActually that is something that I may work
on and step up. Is Idon't know about you? Like you probably
have a bit of a better weirdold book collection, do you I have
from from back in the day.I haven't really, Like I'm trying to
get back into reading a bit more, but like I don't have much many

(15:28):
high strangeness books. Yeah, Ihave one, and I've read I think
I might have read two or three. Before we started the podcast, I
had read maybe two or three HighStrangers books, but generally I will read
horror, sci fi or like nonfictionwith generally kind of what I what I

(15:50):
stick to you. I like tobe fair. I like short stories as
well. Like you need to getonto that Brandon Sanderson. AI. Yeah,
I've been told that. I've beentold that one of my mate's wives
much in my mate as well,but she was talking about how great Sanderson
is, like she said, he'she's like I personally didn't take straight away,

(16:12):
and I haven't read enough. Ionly literally started one book and I
didn't tag to it because sometimes thenew fantasy or like my brain can't work
to imagine why you're trying to tellme. But the man must have a
team of monkey's writing and stuff likethis. He's been I think two to
three full proper massive books a year, which so like he probably does it
like a full time. I wondercan you get to a point where you're

(16:33):
so adept at writing that you're editinglike because usually if I write something,
I only to spend twice the amountof time editing it, whereas with that
maybe at that stage or just seeit's like Stephen King as well, like
some people say they're they actually havelittle factories. I don't know if that's
true or not. And if you'veever read Stephen creative teams kind of like
yeah, that kind of they're like, we'll do this and this and this,

(16:55):
and you just do this and we'llbasically do the whole thing for you.
I don't know if that's true ornot. I would say is that
as you get more famous, youprobably don't need to edit as much.
You don't need to worry about havingreally concise, clear language. A sci
fi book that's great actually for peoplewho like it's kind of a cross between
horror sci fi is The Vagrant.I can't even remember the name of the
guy that writes it, by RobertLouis Stein, but it's pretty good.

(17:21):
It's worth checking out. And Ijust can't remember the dude's name, right,
Okay, we're back to the story. Liz Clarre was born at Mui
River, Natal Fellys, that's thePortuguese version, the youngest daughter of Samuel
Bancroft Wallet and Samuel and Florence WalletSB was a pioneering veterinary surgeon who subsequently

(17:44):
settled at Connington Farm near Rosetta inthe Natal Midlands, where he became a
successful short horn farmer and the dedicatedPaulo player, introducing young people to the
sport. Now there's the family Clara. Clara graduated from Saint Anne's Diocese College
in Peter Murtzberg and moved to Florenceat least to study art and music.

(18:11):
Fucking painting, whoa peter Witzburg getclose to you? She then can take
the four year department in meteorology atGarden College, Cambridge, Jarton Garden.
I don't know who cares and wasthat's true? Well, the people we
were invited to wedd in South Africaa fucking never come to my wedding again.

(18:34):
You will not come to the divorceI'm read and I can't get to
that as well. And was taughtby her first husband to fly a tiger
moth light aircraft. She's pretty Ameliabefore Amelia aircraft? Like, is that

(19:00):
why aircraft recalled aircraft? To think? I don't believe so, but five
DJs and I do. Like that'sjust like a little bit about her in
her family without getting into the meatand bones. You have to know about
a bigger picture, you know,you know. In nineteen thirty two,
the three Walallets sisters and Marrian Taylorformed the Cunnington Polo team and threw a

(19:25):
match against the Durbin Ladies team seenas the first officially recorded ladies match in
South Africa in nineteen thirty two.So Parathid's still going strong, but women
women okay, one out of twowent bad. During World War Two,
she held a responsible position in theRF was an intelligent position. Intelligence position.

(19:45):
Clara believed in telepathic powers and triedto enhance these abilities since her in
tandem with witnessing several UFOs. Howdo you think about What do you think
about telepathic stuff? Telepathy? No, I don't know. I don't think
you can get into people's minds andfucking read their thoughts and make him do
shit and stuff. But I dothink that we might maybe more EmPATH where

(20:11):
you can pick up on people's feelingsand stuff like. That's exactly what I
think. I think your perception couldbe really honed to be very perceptive.
I think some people as well haveLike I wouldn't say it's extra sensory,
but I'd say they can pick uppeople's energy without meaning to. I know
me one or two times I've hadsituations where like I'd start feeling like maybe

(20:32):
fucking agitate or something like, thisdoesn't feel like it's mine. I remember
with an ex girlfriend going to bedone night and being like and I just
felt. I was like, areyou fucking not because she was being shitty
right now America. Yeah, it'slike you've got a proper fucking knock on.
It was like you have everything right, and she's like, yeah,
I'm just fucking pissed off of thisthing that happened in work today. But
I was like feeling I've also hadanother situation where I felt, and I

(20:55):
think I've talked about this in thepodcast before. I was around about fifteen
people who were all on Yolksioko Barriesbut I wasn't. But I felt the
sensation of coming up, like asthey were all coming up, which is
really strange. And then I obviouslywasn't high, but it was a very
strange thing in a small room withfifteen people. Am I an mpath or
mental Probably the second one. Yeah, I don't know. I think I

(21:18):
think it can horne in on things, but I think sometimes it can be
wrong then as well, because absolutelyI know like my gran would be a
fairly good mpath and a feeler anda sensor. But a lot of time
it can be wrong as well.I think when you get to might just
be you get known for getting likestrict. Yeah, I know, like

(21:40):
for me as well, Like toyour point, it could have been I
had I had experienced the sensation oftaking yokes many many years ago. So
did I did my body be like, oh, this is what everyone's doing.
Now here's that feeling? Ye havn'tand you know so yeah, So
I'm not saying it was one orthe other. But anyway, enough about
me in my life and very MDMA. Don't take it kids, and if

(22:03):
you do, stay well hydrated,but don't drink too much water because you
can't drown yourself. Drink instead.I wonder how you'd be if you drank
tea the same we drink water.I don't know. I'd say it could
be rough. So here's the UFOsand her strange strange, strange high strangeness.
Nineteen fifty four, Clara's sister Maywho was then she was raising animals

(22:30):
on the farm. In white whiteleaf? Is that white leaf? It's
like in Afrikaans, talking Afrikaans.So that's in the Natal Midlands. She
relays to her that the native Zulupeople are apparently reporting appearances of a lightning
bird in the sky. We've donethose thunderbirds. ThunderCats on the move.

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In response, Elizabeth and her childrentraveled from Johannesburg to the farm. No,
here's the thing, right, Soshe ascended what is called Flying Saucer
Hill following day in December twenty seven. I tried to find out what Flying
Saucer Hill was called before, andI'm assuming that like this, it's it's

(23:14):
after that. She goes there.Actually couldn't find the name of it.
So there you go. Now.Elizabeth claims to have seen the starship descend
up there. She says it hoveredthree meters above the ground, emitting only
a soft hum. That's what itis. It was. It was running.

(23:42):
It was running on me things Iexpect better. It was like but
we had to do it together.I don't know if I can do it
again. Don't you don't have tolderman's gone back, complete scum good some
kind of iron tool. So it'shome and away. I had. The

(24:07):
whole is spinning and its central domeis remaining stationary. So can you get
that image in your head's old schoolbear blade slash face. Let it rip.
Remember if fidget spinners is like that, Remember bay Blade fidget spinners that
are just gone. They're quite cold. I say, you say, fidget
spinners are just gone. But whenI blow, your mind blows. It's

(24:30):
about seven years ago. My fidgetspinners were thing. Really that COVID really
focusedself. I thought like that theywere just gone. Like I thought during
COVID they were popular my mind.Okay, so here we go. The
spaceman who later identifies himself as Acon. I just hadsick and it fell so

(24:56):
good a woman. Let me putbeis insada second good lad Remember true fell
off the stage? Did he actuallyjust fired him down? It like literally?
If you're looking the definition of thezoomers say ye, like that's why
he should the crowd. That's goodGerman zigme Maynard did a jiu jitsu move

(25:19):
and then sat on him and satsinging. He got his black belder?
Did he fair play to good singer? Good singer? This body, this
body holding me, you might reminderof my own mortality. So Acon is
supposedly visible through one of the threeportholes on this flying saucer, but a

(25:41):
barrier of heat that emanated from theship prevented poor ol Lizzie from approaching,
and his scout ship departed again.Okay, so now you might be wondering
about Acon and the Venusian saw.On the seventh of April nineteen fifty six,
she went back to the hilltop again. Further reports of this lightning bird

(26:04):
were going on around that time,but this time Acon took her aboard his
ship. He showed up again.Will make me super sad nice. The
craft was sixty feet in diameter.Inside she met a second pilot, stocky

(26:26):
and darker skinned than Acon, whowas supposedly a botanist as well as an
astrophysicist. She was allegedly shown alens that offered views through the craft's floor.
It's like one of them they onholiday with the glass bottom on it.
You can see all the fishes fishprobably the actually only went no oh

(26:48):
no. I went on one withPela and when we were in the shaggy
loof, yeah, they're grand.Oh. What was good about that one
is they just pulled in and letyou swim around the place. So I
was just swimming around, looking asif shoes the grand They're never as cool
as you think in your mind.Probably there's always fucking a bit of gack
on the like a little bit ofghack. And even when you look through

(27:10):
it's not like glass because obviously itneeds to be quite thick for the pressure
and everything, So it's never asprobably yeah, yeah, or something like
that. What I do is Iwould just throw on my snore kell and
I would jump into the cold submarme little fucking feathers or the little wings
on me, on me, onme heels. Do you enjoy swimming?
Do you love swimming? The lasttime, probably last time I was swimming

(27:34):
was actually when I was in fuckingyeah? Or did I go on tom
recently? Know? I had acold shower there a little while ago,
likening, or I had a cupof tea there second I would just finish
it, But now I do havea seventy five cl bottle of water.
How do they have C L andM L? What's the probably French bullshit?

(27:56):
Yeah, something to lamon? Howdo you miss on me? So
Acon had Rondo ship nice he hada second pilot who was dark skinned.
This sounds like it's gonna turn intosomething. And I supposedly hm Acon was

(28:18):
a boton the Standard Astrophysicist. That'sAcon's blacker skin, blacker stockier friend.
There's a bit of weird, likeAssassin's creed slash a sausage creed more right,
So what do we call this showwhen I talk about plants? Sorry?

(28:40):
What do we call this when Italk about plants? On the podcast
Horticulture of Fuzz who founded the HorticulturalSociety and mixers? Robert Billington my great
great grandad. So it's in thejeans there you go. Because, funnily
enough, my great great granddad wasa high functional alcoholic, so it is.
It is in the blood. Ihad twelve sausages. I'm like a

(29:04):
kuma from a street fighter with theesaround. Funny though, he wi you
wanted it on Johnstown Castle a fineProtestant activity. Yeah, yeah, castles.
Everyone's everyone's starving around us the dimension. Let's talk about flowers when everyone's

(29:30):
dying. Make sure they don't plantany spots are massive acres. So they're
going around in the ship and Ihave garden like in Terrier. So it's
got my attention. Very it ispretty cool, right, that will be
a garden spaceship. I'm on boardwith you. People get live walls theeah
thing. Yeah, did you eversee those in They're kind of like pictures,

(29:51):
but they ate their live pictures basicallyhave wooden mark in Ireland too damper.
Yeah, that's true. You havemold issues balls at all. During
this encounter, steady now, kisseswere exchange. Just touch it, just

(30:11):
touch it outside the pens. Thisis where I exchanged and the Acon revealed
that Elizabeth was in fact reincarnated Venusianand she was actually a last. You
know that Acon is just talking absoluteanything he can to try and bed and
you are actually avenue the long lastmate. Please touch it on the outside

(30:36):
of my chrome pants. What Ican't have? Yeah? That one,
the suicidal one that I just hadsex with, the lonely planet, and
I don't know. I'm sure I'llknow all this other songs and track list.
I'm not going to pull. Sohe gets sued by Acon, But
I feel like, smack that onthe floor. Is that Acon? Til

(30:57):
it gets smacked? Smack that somemore smacked that lonely so lonely I have
nobody has called right now in bracketsright no no, no, no,
no, no, no get Yeah, this is Aircon on Spotify. Three

(31:22):
songs Sexy Bitch. That's the songDavid Weder featuring a bit I saw you
in the club. You're such asexy bitch. I didn't know what to
do. I got nervous and wenthome. Yeah, that's about it.
Turn out that's good sexy bitch.Let's sexy, right, So you can't

(31:45):
say that anymore. Back in theday, bitch, lads be talking like
she's some sexy bitch. But noone says that anymore because it's fucking misogynistic.
Yeah, it's funny because that wholething now was kind of, in
a sense kind of backlashed because nowlike lads don't are afraid to chat up
women. Now do you know thatthirty percent of millennials aren't fucking well,

(32:07):
you can't shout up like like itnever really happened here. No one hair
approached women ever. We got hammagYeah, but people aren't drinking like they
should. But but like nowadays,like no one's appatching anyone because they're just
like, well, I might getlike I might meet no not in me
too, I might get like video, I might look like a spy.

(32:29):
I might have someone might slap meor but it does mean that surely well
actually probably the women are the samethat will put me on men are how
much I like are women? Justthey're not into it either. Tinder is
dying to death. People don't wantto real the machines. This is what
the machines want. The machines wantus to stop reproducing. They want to

(32:50):
join because what's what would you doif you were artificial intelligence? Right,
you would be like, all right, what I need to do is get
these fuckers to stop hanging out witheach other and having these strong relationships.
So now I'm gonna make these siliconrobots that you can fuck that stage AI,

(33:12):
Yeah, I'd say, yeah,I think I think that that's especially
No, why not because it's likefucking like, what do you want to
fucking thing where you have to like, there's no intimacy with a robot you
have My silicon is at the optimumlevel for warm Did you ever see him
on real doll like those? Youget a robot, big robot just be

(33:39):
writing a dead body, which wouldbe warming up like wo but it still
won't be doing it and it won'tbe like moving a robot. It will
move in the future, but you'regonna get one. Of course I'll get
one in the future. Sorry,I thought you meant now everyone to get
if a robot gives me less slipex maca. I know she had see

(34:05):
true and all true head. Idon't see misses his head trying to.
She had a big sea true headhead, and she went away. She
was never righting. Who did yourmind? The other one rode oscar Isaacs.
They were doing their little dance andthen we didn't see the ride though,

(34:27):
but then her face like face off. I know I am not against
that. I wouldn't discrimine that.Robots well, I wouldn't want a sex
robot now because the technology to handlemy lower back like Frankenstein's body a big
sack of ball. No, Frankenstein'sMonster would be even better. Frank Master

(34:52):
can move and talk and like dostuff, you know, like you know
a robot. I don't think youwould. The sensual grip of my right
hand, I don't need a robots. The left cups the balls, and
the right ground brutalized to make youone of the episode man it's self abuse.

(35:15):
It maybe looks like Freddy Krueger.Yes, it's a night nightmare in
no prospect from being squeezed to death, death grip. So I look and
the big dirty making you walk onair and a robot. I'm very disappointed
about that. If someone gave mea free rush, I'm not spending two
grand on a fucking what if?Yeah, yeah, definitely, what if

(35:39):
they were fifty yeah, one hundred, yeah, just going up in fifty
two hundreds, starting to get startsstarting to be like, you know about
that now one hundred and fifty off, you can stress them up to see
the CAMMI one. Yeah, gofor real dollars, gen and just look
a real dollars. I like,how you're doing really, because I was

(36:00):
listening to explained to you, explainto you. I was listening to our
friend Joseph Rogan Fritz so he hehad them and euroscientistand and they were talking
about all this AI and robots andstuff was interesting, and they're talking about
real dolls. And then sure,I went on to look at it incognito

(36:20):
and put it on. And Ialways knows the robots, No, they're
not what you're into it. Andthe robots are going to market themselves to
you. There's a camirail. You'resaying to me, there's one that's dressed
a lot like CAMMI, But Ithink for legal reasons they can't get a
license by capcom. Here by tworeel cocks. That's a real cock.

(36:45):
I don't know. I can onlyimagine, but I imagine that looks real.
Well, I'm going to assume it'sa dildo and not a penis,
let's say her cracks. For somethe images are the real dollars. Build
your on reel cock two, realcock two, like Mega drive two.

(37:12):
It could be like the Mega drives. The we're in business. Yeah,
okay, So for our listeners,no, they're not like they're not they're
not there. They look like athree D. They look like an f
m V scene from ten years ago. Imagine that stop. I don't want
to. You have to be fairlydetached from reality to be like it's night

(37:36):
like. You have to put itback in four and a half, Christ
up the front door one, assemblingyour real doll directing that big I reckon,
I reckon. Can you imagine theYeah, as you're and you're so
frustrated because you just wanted to takeit and you have to put it together

(37:57):
to make sure it's okay, butall the arms and thembol like and then
you're so exhausted after putting together yoursex slave that you can't do it.
And you know there's a real cocknamJames when you say real cock, so
you don't know which real dolls you'reon because it's seeming it's a different one.

(38:20):
Is making a kind of col doeslook like a real cock? To
be fair, it makes kind hedoes a big Copperberg making up is there?
So does your phone have the womenones or is it your phone is
going to want a real cock?Would you use the handles on the bath?

(38:45):
Of course? And the funny thingis I think this is like the
third time we've looked these dollars upon but we've been in business for nearly
four It's like and then you're like, thing, aren't you know you're in
trouble wind there's a upon on thepage save one thousand dollars? What that
is? That is trouble right there? You imagine the customs just paying the

(39:09):
customs to get a life sized bodylike this is a yeah for the video
podcast is gonna be fairly have likedetachable minge because going to clean the screws.
Imagine how fucked up you'd feel you'reafter writing your real doll. It's
you pull them inj out, yousat down at the table, it has

(39:31):
no meange. It's looking at youwith fucking uncanny valley, godless, soulless
size, and you're just washing yourjip out of its minge Like that's so
just that that the thought of thatunsettles me. I'm for and against this
at the same time. Yeah,I think people. I think people should

(39:51):
be entitled to write whatever I wantto ride as long as my harmon anyone.
There you go. I was gettingworried there for you. Brad was
like, this is the and it'snot podcast Bresta, And I think that.
So I think that's good about it. I think that it's you know,
but then I also think it's verystrange. What I think is great

(40:13):
is that for the first time inyour life, it will allow you to
treat women like objects exactly. Sothat's great. And we've been working towards
this for so long. A womanthat won't talk and he's an object,
that's what men wanted for so long. Partnered up with Alexa stick one of
them in the store. Wow isgoing on? You'd be having a great

(40:36):
time here on our song there playingour song by Acon. You know,
yeah, makes a player Spotify,okay, Google play Spotify. You know
what will be scary though, Soyou get your reel doll at the real
dollars, like hanging out or whatever. You have it in a fucking wardrobe
or wherever you keep it so peopledon't dig. You're a fucking media.

(40:57):
And then one night it's like afucking elephant a shelf. It's just appear
in different plays. Can you imaginein its weird robotic way where it's like
staccato movements coming into your bed andyou must ride me now Robert, and
you getraved by your robot rob robussyand then you you you have become the

(41:20):
object. That's actually a good story. But yeah, I'll be next like
those like death we're finished. WhenI say we're finished, it's like tightens
down on it like a vice cripts. And then and then you need to
And that's how real doll keep theirfucking payments going because now you need to
get a real and now it producesa real mickey, real cock. That's

(41:46):
how they settle them on the website. They are actual real human penis is
that we're detached by. They usedthe skin of real human penis is taxidermide
Mickey's and they're just being them offthe head operas. I say, you're
buying real Meki. This is thisepisode about aliens or something. So anyway,

(42:07):
so apparently Elizabeth is right, youknow, is he looking for Gammy?
Hey further explained that the occasionally talkart Swim and his partners. Yeah,
he's just trying to be hungry forhis ride. Yeah, as the
all strings strengthened their rest with ininfusion of new blood. That's sensible.
Yeah, that makes sense that alienhuman hybrids did dilute the game pool.

(42:30):
He also claimed that a number ofVenusians were surreptitiously living among human beings.
Would you believe that, I wouldYou think aliens live among them? I
think they live. I think they'rethe real dolls. I think ai AI
is the big threat seven is whenaliens. No, But honestly, I

(42:51):
think it's all happening, big,big, big, Like, I don't
think it's a threat. It's justgoing to change the way we live.
It's where we live, you know, the way of everything gone, and
there's gonna be a lot of peoplelike everything, Like the lads who are
selling horses all gonna be fucked whenthe carriers gradually come in. But that
happened now was like like big companiesthat use art and like value artists are

(43:13):
standing us AI generated promotional material.Really they saw a way calm one of
the big ones, the guys arethe tablets. I think, I think,
I think Now I'm not one hundredpercent sure, but I'm fairly sure.
Like people were calling them out one. That's the reason I'm saying that,
I think because I definitively don't know, but yeah, it kind of
looked like they use AI art intheir promotional images, which for a drawn

(43:36):
tablet, like that's literally like isthat not like is that not some kind
of like is that not indicative ofwhat's happening? If like the biggest company
for drawing tablets is advertising, weneed to sell this general artists to create
stuff, and the best way tosell it in the most cost way to
sell it is to not use tabletsthat people would draw out one and just

(43:57):
get it a magic They still can'tdo fingers great, can Well I've seen
some bullshit on facebooks. That's probablyolder magic the gathering I have been using.
Okay, right, I'm going togo now just is what we're going
to do is a podcast exercise?Right, yeah, I'm going to generate.
We're not doing poor Elizabeth the goodservice here today. But sure,
look that's grand. Sometimes it's theway it goes. Get a grip the

(44:21):
speed. It's married a alien,your fucking maniac, So didn't even marry
him. Think of a who doyou think? Who do you like as
a beautiful woman? Like what celebritydo you like? Beautiful woman? Who
is beautiful? Who you're beautiful?James Blunt beautiful? Now that's not what
I's a beautiful woman? Who's beautiful? Woman? Beautiful? Yeah, Alexandra

(44:51):
Daffodova or whatever? Oh yeah,using the big t okay, so right,
you could take Anderida right, Soanyway, Acon is a king to
get inside poor ol Elyziath So seventeenforty five, that's quarter to six.

(45:13):
The thirty of the April nineteen fiftysix, various observers noted a steady red
glow poised at a rocky section ofthe hill, which remained there until two
am in the morning. No signof fire could be found afterwards. On
July seventeenth, nineteen fifty six,after their family farm was sold, Clara
revisited the area and claimed to havetaken a series of seven photos of acon

(45:35):
scout ship using her sisters or herdaughter's simple brownie box camera. And we
do have a picture this as well. We'll talk about It looks like a
hub cap that's been thrown into thesky, which is what all of the
skeptics have said. It's black andwhite. It could be it could be
my wedding ring thrown into the sky. Who knows my wedding ring looks like
a big flying saucer. She claimedthat vivid light flashes turned into a dull

(46:00):
gray craft enveloped in a shimmering heathaze, and that for an hour,
the disc darted silently over a risenear the farmhouse, making several weaving detours
and sean like silver in bright sunlight, before streaking away out of sight.
Edgar Severs, a eupologist from Pretoria, said that Clara's family saw her leave

(46:20):
the homestead alone, and suggested thatthe frail Elizabeth would have found it difficult
to throw a car hubcap and photographit. At the same time, this
is the reason why it's not ahubcap. He also stated that no type
of hubcap was known to sufficiently resemblethe disc in the photos. So the
picture is there, you can youcan take a look at it. You're
still making Alexander draftlog I'm making you. I'm just proving what AI can do.

(46:46):
Excellent. Well, I will goon to talk a bit more about
Acon, will I? Yeah?Right? So April nineteen fifty eight stories
circulate that set Clara's story apart fromthe UFO stories that are starting to become
more standard in the nineteen fifties,talking Betty and Barney Hill, Antonio boras
Vas, all that sort of stuff. Claire claimed that Acon's visits culminated in

(47:08):
a day long rendezvous with Elizabeth onthe high plateau of Cathkin Peak, which
might have been what fucking flying SaucerHill was called prior to He presents her
with a silver ring that enhances theirtelepathic connection. So Elon Musk is all
at that a link? This isahead of its time. Trump just said
magnet's don't want to work underwater,So we there you go. Magnets don't

(47:31):
work underwater. I think they dothe art. Surely the tectonic movement of
Earth would disagree with that. Myeah, yeah, I'm going to say,
now do we have this is AIhelping us out here and doing things?
But I don't think it is justyes, you chip away AI.
Not as fast as it could be. Just yet, a real woman would

(47:53):
have made herself look like Alexandra dI think so lovely eyes. So anyway,
speaking in nice eyes, Acon givesher the Silver Ring to enhance their
telepathic connection, and their love wasthen consummated and a child was conceived.

(48:14):
So Elizabeth said, I surrendered inecstasy to the magic of his love making,
our bodies merging in magnetic union asthe divine essence of our spirits became
one. So there you go.Clara cramed that after a terrestrial pregnancy,
she and her MG car were transportedin nineteen fifty nine to Acon's home planet

(48:36):
Meton, orbiting proximous century in thenearby multiple star system of Alpha Century.
Of course, that was there,and that she delivered a song, of
course, and he was given thename Ailing Ailing Alien Alien Ailing. He
stayed behind on Meton to be educated, of course, probably a good schools

(48:58):
there asd Regon, I'd say,Meton has I mean, if they're going
into galactic and voyaging through space andtime, probably grand, yeah, probably,
So let's see her now. Socrypt crypt throughout that school, but

(49:24):
he stayed behind, and then shecame home. Meton's planetary vibrations supposedly affected
her heart. It's not good forher, and she was consequently not permitted
to return, instead receiving follow upvisits from Acon and ailing. This flying
does affect your heart, Timon doesa radiation aff her heart affects everything.

(49:45):
Radiation you're up high, it's messingwith yourselves, Sun's radiations not It's why
people that fly all the time looklike a tomatow right has met too much
radiation, looking like DNA white.The man's on the plane all the time,
he looks well, now, yeahhe did. He's gotten fit and
he's all strong, and he walksaround his bare feet in the grass in

(50:06):
the morning and the sun shines onhis ditties and apparently it helps him.
The whole trip, delivery and returntrips supposedly talk no more than four months
wters you believe, but due tothe differences in space time, of course,
as usual, this allowed her nineyears day I met on. Now
here's the thing, right, Soeven in the Alpha century, it's the
movement at speed that causes time delay. I don't think go to a different

(50:30):
place in the galaxy and it goesfaster in that place, but then she
would have to go at light speedto get there. So maybe are we
talking about spacing time a little bit? Or nah? Because we don't have
any fucking serious scientists that listen tothis show. I'd say a serious scientist
isn't going to listen to the show. And there's lots of scientists to listen

(50:52):
to this pocket. Actually, Iwonder if any are you a scientist that
listens to the show? Let usknow writing Monster fors podcast at gmail dot
com. There were in all citiesor skyscrapers as art people know all them
anywhere I met on. That's interesting. Homes were scattered in part like grounds,
nice like a Hobbit place. Yeah, there was an abundance of all

(51:13):
things needed by civilization. It wasa utopia, Eliza. There was an
abundance of all things you wanted.And yeah, they've got unlimited energy.
Classic that is a classic interstellar sortof a thing, isn't it. They're
about to get unlimited energy in Iceland, the reckon they're drilling into another No,

(51:34):
no, they're drilling into like avolcano to like produce normal shit.
They already do it, but they'relike, no, if we drill into
this particular part, we're going toget like way more efficient energy. And
so it's just all heating and electricityand all. That's probably going to be
the way we eventually have to goanywhere. Like we're just gonna have to
figure out way is to like harnessnature. Harness nature. It makes it

(51:57):
easier. You're like, okay,happy days. Well there's there's everyone.
Yeah, there's a lot of floatingwindmills out in Japan and stuff out in
the water to catch the breeze,catch the wind. Yeah, because obviously
the wind is stronger towards the coastand out a certain distance from the land.
So yeah, they'd be at it. So there was no monetary system

(52:20):
with all that. A Nate Rancher, no reveluebody cash app or something.
It's okay, send it back tome later in our Carl Marx app.
So she published a book of course, as you wored there you go,
and it was called Beyond the LightBack, which is actually a great name
for a hair metal band from nineteeneighty as well, to be fair,
but it's not as good a CelestialRooster, I mean, is anything about

(52:45):
her? Yeah, this is abouther extra extraterrestrial adventures. On his world
lecture tour in the late nineteen fifties, George Adamski made the point of visiting
South Africa and looking up Clara fora chat on variety of experiences with the
friendly wise space brothers. Y.So what winds up happening here? Right?

(53:07):
It's my my estimation that and thisthis also goes into the Philadelphia experiments
and all that as well, wherea load of lads who don't know each
other are I was about to say, bullshit, they're telling stories that seem
unbelievable and then they start like doublingdown on each other's stories and all of
a sudden, So there's a littlebit of that coming up. So later

(53:30):
life. So after her sister andbrother in law died, Elizabeth retired from
natality Johannesburg. There she worked fora time in a CNA bookstore, but
found city life stifling. You know, as we we're in Wexford. You
know, we get, we get, don't be at the big city.
From the nineteen fifties onwards, heroutlandish claims made her a darling of the

(53:51):
press, but they also love toridicule her, which again we've seen that
many times before. Lights Over Phoenix, that poor congresswoman. She welcomed any
press, however, as the disseminationof Acon's message was paramount a life task
of extreme importance. Now it's interestingbecause they never actually told me what Acon's
fucking message was, But I'm goingto assume it was, like all the

(54:12):
messages are, which are look afterthe planet, don't be a dickhead.
That's all the aliens. Which ifyou are an alien, what message would
you give us? That'd probably thebest. I think, just get money.
So I reckon that was his messageon I mean, that's a pretty
good message too. Unfortunately, thisis in the nineteen fifties, so that
message doesn't really start gaining ground untilthe sort of late eighties, early nineties,

(54:32):
you know, and before we knowwhat Wu Tang clan is nothing to
fuck with, which is great.So the account of her observations and contact
experience in Flying Saucer Review of NovemberDecember nineteen fifty six was noticed by a
lady called Edith Nicolayson. Nicolayson's correspondencewith Elizabeth consists of twenty three letters from

(54:53):
nineteen fifty six to nineteen seventy six, and she published the Claire story in
the Small Booklet in nineteen fifty nine, and a second edition appeared in nineteen
sixty seven. So from nineteen sixtyto nineteen sixty six Elizabeth works on her
manuscript, which now includes the aconlove saga you make me into Galactic,

(55:16):
and she couldn't hide the truth ofthese matters as soon as she saw those
dollars coming in as well, what'sthe currency they have in South Africa?
I should know that Rand? Isthat? I think you're right? Yeah,
Rand. If I don't have enoughrand for that's random a fucking some

(55:38):
kind of some sort of let's justlook at ultor Rand Rand Rand excited.
It is, Yeah, some manby Randy Brandy Jackson over there, fair
play fuck me Christ trivia killing,that's unbelievable. Nineteen sixty eight, Elizabeth

(56:00):
agrees to be interviewed by ufologist CynthiaHind. We've seen her before. She
was also featured heavily in that schoolin South Africa where they saw all the
aliens as well. Remember crafty CynthiaHind and you can buy her real doll
right now. Use code name FuzzyFuzz, use code name Peach Fuzz,

(56:22):
and that will you get it forcheap? Shouts out real doll. Heines
right up, and her story appearedin Fame magazine of August that year.
He followist Kitty Smith established contact withElizabeth after reading about her in Outspan magazine
and claimed her own sighting of Acon'sship in January nineteen eighty four. So
this is where they all start tofucking lobster each other. Another South African,

(56:44):
Anne Grevler, claimed alien contact inthe late nineteen fifties, but Elizabeth
was outspoken and issued various challenges toher to defend her statements. In an
open forum. She also denounced PhilipHumans. That's a cool second name for
someone who sees it aliens. PhilipHuman's supposed contact through a trance medium,
and this caused a rift between them. In her view, the space people

(57:07):
would never stoop to such message asto use a trance medium. It just
it's unbelievable by nineteen seventy five,she's invited to the Herman Obert. Invited
by Herman Oberth to attend the eleventhInternational Congress of UFO Research Groups in Weissbaden
in Germany. She delivers an addresson the second of November and she receives

(57:30):
a standing ovation with through no prompt. Everyone was happy, you know,
everyone was like, fuck, yeah, I want to clap and stand up
because that means more than clapping.Why don't they have like a jumping ovation
because that would be more than standing. Next time I really dig something,
I'm gonna give it a jumping ovation. I'm going to start jumping and clapping
at the same time and going whoa, whoa. That could work, Evan,

(57:53):
you know. Nineteen ninety two,a talk is arranged by Smith for
Claire at the Unidentified Flying Object Clubin peter Murzberg. And this was so
popular that the crowd, the crowdgrew too large to cope with. So
this is funny because this is earlynineties. This is really when X files.

(58:15):
This is like the genesis of UFOpopularity or the resurgence. Would that
be fair because the fifties is whenit first really starts coming through and then
again in the nineties. Do youthink that's a fair thing I'm saying or
is that completely You're a You're agenius of genius of a man smart.
What I've never understood is how Ican understand things on such a deep level.

(58:39):
So Elizabeth faithfully commemorates the April seventhanniversary of her union with Acon by
returning to Flying Saucer Hill. Onone occasion, she befriended s aaf helicopter
pilots who sought shelter on the farmduring a storm, and they facilitated visits
to the hill when a ride onhorseback became too difficult for So as she

(59:00):
gets older, she's not able toget up the hill no more and see
Acon sexy bitch her third She hasthree husbands as well, who are grand
with all this. She had kidswhen she first met Acons, so she
fucking sleeps with the alien like JoeSatriani. Her third husband, Aubrey Fielding,
dies in nineteen eighty one, andhis ashes were strewn on the hill

(59:21):
in some sort of the final Cookmove where you spray your husband's ashes on
the hill where you wrote the alienjust terrible. Elizabeth dies of breast cancer
at age eighty four, leaving hersecond book, The Gravity File, Bran
the finish breasts take us away,nourish and nerf that's what they do.

(59:44):
The book filled in gaps of thefirst, besides elucidating the military and political
aspects of UFO research and explaining Acon'selectro gravity propulsion technology. I love when
lads who aren't good at science tellyou about science. I read Behold a
Pale Horse, and many times Ijust put it down and I went.

(01:00:05):
Before her death, she relayed toacquaintances that ailing like Acon, his father
was now an astrophysicist who was Chris, crossing the universe with his father and
his space woman who was called Clia, and their son who I have no
name for. In these notes,that sounds very interesting. It's it's been

(01:00:27):
arguably one of the best episodes we'veever done so far. But the big
question is, Emma will a blendwith it all? Blind? With it
all blind? So? Urethologist ThomasStriker. Brannan as well concluded that Clar's
times are generally just poorly substantiated,despite some of them being cropbreaded by witnesses.
Her sister and first husband for instance, attested to two UFL sightings,

(01:00:50):
but witnesses are lacking to confirm herpregnancy. This is the part that got
me, was like she got pregnant, and like what what happened that?
Yeah? Like soon carry come on? Well, she was in Alpha Centuryani
or whatever it was called. Andtime goes faster, which means the baby
and it goes. It's fine,grand apparently, but it's radioactive for her.

(01:01:13):
But her son, who's half alien, doesn't have any issues with radioactivity.
He stays there to get an education. Apparently, it makes sense.
It checks out. Do you findthem sexy dollars? Yeah? Or no?
Alexander? Yeah, generalstry her whilewe talk, which is why I'm
generally distracted in this episode. Shewas perhaps a fantasy prone individual who merely

(01:01:36):
managed imagine sorry, most of herexperiences. She was just a bit of
an idiot. She's a bit ofan idiot now. Elizabeth David in particular,
had no recollection of an event,absence or pregnancy of his mother that
could tie with her reported space adventures. In nineteen fifty nine, The Jetsons

(01:01:59):
You Have, Phologist uthologist Cynthia Hindnoted Elizabeth's absolute conviction that she was telling
the truth and never suspected that shewas deliberately lying. Hind suspected that an
active imagination or illusions born from thedream state of euphoria were to be blamed
for improbabilities and inconsistently inconsistencies inherent toher stories. Both Hind and Smith,

(01:02:23):
however, alluded to sightings of Aconby members of the public, and Hind
concluded all these factors need examination andit is time we stopped casting aside such
cases, which, although sounding likehoaxes, are not obviously solved. No,
I believe her. She'd loved tobe alive now seeing what's going on

(01:02:44):
with the UAPs real, I mean, you know now. Uthologist Edgar Sievers,
who also interviewed her family, wascompletely satisfied that her experiences them and
at least up to and including thephotographs, were all of a physical nature
rather than psychic. You know,yeah, you have followed just Philip Human

(01:03:07):
initially heaped praise. I'm Elizabeth,but later changed the stance. I do
not believe one of her supposed contacts, and it was a standing joke.
The way she was helped to photographan ordinary motor car hub cap saw much
of her photographs, so basically she'slyingcaps. So this is what they said

(01:03:29):
earlier, where the family were saying, like she went by yourself, she
isn't able to throw at cubcap intothe sky and then take a picture of
it at the same time. Andthen the other fellow who was kind of
on her side, said, butsure, they don't even make hubcaps like
that around there. And as weall know, you're not important. Cares
to South Africa very often in thenineteen fifties with custom fucking Hubcapsah, exhibit,

(01:03:52):
you're getting fresh ice. We wouldgo still love about that, memories
ago, Okay, what are wedoing for this? And he'd be like,
I'm gonna put some window wipers onthe front because I can see they
are badly damaged and stuff like that. But then your man who just always
said two PlayStation twos and a headinch matter, no matter what. And

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sometimes like he'd say, okay,so Jimmy, what are we gonna do?
And before Jimmy, two PlayStations,Oh sorry, sorry, my bad,
my bad, but they have tohave two play session two and tennis.
And the car you weren't living,your car battery wasn't living. When
you were playing all the Apparently thosecars like sometimes wouldn't even drive, like
they had to push them out tomake it look like they were driving away.

(01:04:33):
But like a lot of time,yeah, people were like, I
can't drive just carry anymore. Butit was a grace, a brilliant show.
I mean, goldfish in in yourcar, why wouldn't you want it?
Like of course, like it's likea tin box. So just was
like a cold stuff old fish everleft the goldfish? They're just trying,

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Yeah, car like pretty funny stuff. So they're going on about praying that
this book never gets published because basicallyit's all shite. That said that the
pregnancy was muck That's the way mysister described her second about pregnancy was mucked

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up to this. Edith Nicholson repliedNicholas, and don't be afraid. We
shall never publish the story of herVenusian lover, but I would like to
reprint the booklet about her contacts.I do believe that she has had some
sort of contact contact just a bit. The Mensa chapter. The Mensa chapter

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of Johannesburg did not take handy toher claims, and she was heckled during
her address. Hard evidence for herclaim that she addressed the House of Lords
in nineteen eighty three and that apaper of hers was read during the year
at a UFO Congress at the UnitedNations has not been found. Suppose it.
Hard evidence presented by Elizabeth included herset of nineteen fifty six photographs,

(01:06:03):
the ring she got from Acon,a space rock or crystal on the farm
from her support her supportive husband Aubrey. This classic like I called it,
husband name Aubrey. It's the greatestname for a cooked husband. Her supportive

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husband, Aubrey, remained unperturbed byher wife's love for Acon, reportedly saying
that's all right with me as longas he stays in space where he belongs.
Hilarity ensued, what's your reckon aboutthat? Complete fucking I think I
I. I first, we havemid journey, so I just put in

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Alexandra de Dario names. Now it'sit doesn't necessarily look like her too much.
It does look kind like her.But what I wanted to say to
is look at the reality of theit is, what do you think of
that? Jesus exactly? That that'sa ice on her. Let's a ice
on and the one on the topleft looks most like her. Okay,

(01:07:13):
but just let's just take out Alexandrede Dario is a name. Oh and
just in general, yeah, thatlooks like a real picture and that's crazy,
Like yeah he wouldn't you can tellbecause the eyes aren't beautiful enough.
I mean, it just looks likea real person, like like basically the
marl of the story when it comesto that kind of thing AI and stuff
like that, is we're at thatlittle point. That was the point I

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was going to make. We're atthis point now where for like probably in
the next like five years, there'sgoing to be pet people able to easily
call out like when people use AIand said that out right use instead of
human, that'll be gone. Solike that that time will go, Yeah,
that's going to just disappear and it'lljust become standard and no one will

(01:07:55):
realize anymore. And I don't knowwhat happens then. I don't know whether
it's like some kind of personally,I don't think it's like a huge dooms
I think, of course, ifyou're an artist who was trying to make
money, it's a doomsday scenario bigtime. Well, it's like we're kind
of building the plane as we triedto fly it at the same time really
know what's going on. We're justso it's interesting how it's working and how

(01:08:15):
it's shaping out. But like midJoarney within the life of this podcast,
like literally yeah has come ten alsoas well. Think about it. When
you look at how quick technology moves, you know, it's like it's insane,
Like it's Raelian saying how quick.Like I remember we probably talked about
on many falls using we did usingAI image generators for the crack on one

(01:08:43):
mini falls back when we started,and like they were awful. Yeah,
like they weren't gold and they werethere and now it's like, here's a
real party. The other thing that'skind of mad is as well, this
is the machine learning, right,The AI is like learning, so it's
it's automatically again, I would imaginemaybe I don't people aren't putting code into
it anymore, are they? Isit just evolving itself or is no?

(01:09:05):
It definitely is, like it definitelyis still needing. That's what helps.
You know. We'll see if wecan get hands right though, But I
do think that it's gotten way betterwith all that type of stuff. Yeah,

(01:09:27):
absolutely, But we digress. Whatdo you think about this case sight
and shining. I'd say I wouldgo I would lean into shining for this.
Yeah, that's one of those ones. It's a bit fucking like,
come on yourself on this. Whenyou read it, like and you just
read it in a nice letter vacuum, you're like, oh, kind of
those make sense. You know.What is interesting though, that someone could
like do all this like adult stuffthey're supposed to do back then, like

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working in a bookshop, being inthe RAF, all this sort of stuff,
and then also have this alternative lifethat goes alongside. And it's like,
oh, yeah, I got fuckinglike like, it's just it's I
always think it's really funny that thesepeople who aren't because you would expect that
someone would be proper crazy, theywould suffer from some sort of delusion that

(01:10:12):
would sort of permeate down to everypart of their life. And yet if
this person does believe it, andif it's not a lie and if it
didn't happen, then they have thisreally bizarre delusion that just doesn't affect the
rest of their life. It's reallyI don't know if if she completely believes
it, it's very very interesting.It's got the hands done some Oh jesus,

(01:10:34):
it's all over. The hands arefine, like I mean sometimes that
looks like check out them hands,like that's part of those hands are pretty
on. That's like is that onethat's trying to be a painting, Like
it's done in the case in theway of a paint yet good like not
getting crazy getting crazy. I thinkthis whole one was a shiting big time.
Yeah, it was a fun shining. I like that we're now multitasking

(01:10:58):
as we do the podcast, likelet me, you're generating AI while we
talk about someone visiting Alpha century anddoing a load of fucking mad stuff.
Yeah, it's we're at a reallyinteresting time. Like but you know,
everyone always comes out with these likekind of like you know, doomsday scenarios

(01:11:19):
and says, hey, it's allbad and all. But like imagine you
were like talk about you said thiswoman here she died a breast cancer in
the story, Like imagine that we'reable to get like if we're but apparently
now and I don't know how truethis is. This is the rumor,
right, do you remember that asa Sam Altman that the left you're about
to talk about how the way thatit has generally human intelligence is so basically

(01:11:43):
like so recently in the news,Sam Altman was fired from chat GPT or
left he I think it was abit of a bit of both. When
you get muscled out like apparently nowthis but it's it's fun, it's fun
to speculate about. So let's talkApparently their lead like scientists at open AI,

(01:12:04):
the guys that do all that shit, like they have like guys that
are like, you know, scientistsin terms of ethics and science, in
terms of like should we let Pandoraout of the box, should we like
this? But he gave a warning. The rumor is that like it is
out of the box like that theywere passing some new stuff and the scientist

(01:12:25):
guy was like, we shouldn't dothis actually, and then I was like,
now, but that I could behere, but I read about that.
I think I might have read somethinga little bit more that went into
it a slight bit more so.Apparently the idea is that so it's so
CHGBT works kind of like a wordprocess. Yeah, so it sort of

(01:12:50):
guesses the next word or not guessesuses probability. It's your story or whatever
you're looking for. Now, whereit's not so good is with solving maths.
So they can say two plus twoand do like calculator stuff and it'll
get it, but with actual bigequations or big theories. So what I
heard is that it was able tostart doing maths, which means it needs

(01:13:13):
to use logic to figure out themaths. It's not something that it can
just use a calculator. It hasto sort of think abstractly. And based
on that, they thought that ithad not that it passes the Churing test,
which it probably does anyway, butthat they said it has general human
intelligence now because of the way it'slogically able to figure out maths, whereas

(01:13:36):
before it's just doing probability of thenext word to kind of generate a story,
which you could say is also kindof human intelligence. But apparently this
is a point where they've said,right that not that it's sentient, but
it has general human intelligence. Andif it has general human intelligence, not
that it would want anything or becauseI don't know if the machine can want

(01:13:59):
that doesn't have emotion and stuff likeus. But yeah, so that's what
they're saying. They're saying, we'vecome to a point where we have to
turn it off for a minute becausewe don't know because what if like not
that it would want to do andbut is it possible that that will just
start doing things itself based on thelogic and be like, well, the
logic you gave me means that Ican turn this water off and put this
on if they like, I don'tknow, but that that's what I heard

(01:14:23):
anyway, that's what I heard thatthe issue was, Yeah, I mean,
look, it's all fantasy. Really, It's that's the weird thing though,
it's not like it's really not sortof speculating and what it would do,
fine, sorry what it would doyet? But while science fiction,
ye, right, but the realityis that it could do that now,
So not from a place of likea personality or wanting to, but could

(01:14:45):
we have overlooked a bit of thecode that tells it not to do something
and then it fucking spirals out andjust builds it. But again, this
is also the counter all that whichis in my opinion on doomstead talk and
stuff like what if you're able tosolve cancers? Yeah, yeah, well
if you're able to solve like human, real human problems, where it can

(01:15:06):
just which it already has solved cancers. I think it's already figured out something
like it's but it's actually like sortedout there was one or two. It's
better if it's used correctly. It'sbetter than a general practitioner identifying what's wrong
with you, and and then it'susing abstract language to figure that out.

(01:15:28):
And so yeah, I mean thatthat's pretty narrowly like, and I think
if that is something that can beused, like I think it's obviously a
thing where if people were just sayingthat as we are now and going you
can't ban it because it might dothat, that's not good enough. But
if it was further online and itactually was making tangible benefits for humanity,

(01:15:49):
like it was able to kind ofcome up with things like, no,
you don't want them, let's notuse possibils, let's figure this out.
Let's figure out global warming to whereeveryone can benefit. Everyone is going to
be happy, no one's going tobe fucked off, no one's going to
have to use any of this asa political football, like we're going to
be we're going to be our right, and this can do that because it's

(01:16:10):
basically just using all of human intelligenceand can it help because you would hope
that what it might be able todo is based on how we can automate
and you know, as less jobsare needed and blah blah blah, can
we get to a point where wecan find a different way that works that
isn't There's always a binary thing betweenlike communism and capitalism, and we both

(01:16:31):
obviously know that they both have theirshortcomings. Communism seems great, but it's
never worked. Capitalism is probably thebest thing that does work in line with
democracy. But as capitalism goes onand on, we see those growing between.
Yeah, so the poor people aregetting fucked and obviously that will then

(01:16:53):
help put in things like groups thatare going to be disenfranchised, they're doing
riots, all sort of shit thatwe see is happening now. So like
it would be cool if you ifthe AI can kind of help us in
a direction or set avenues to makethings a bit. I don't believe in
equality, but certainly some sort ofequity or something where or quality of outcome.

(01:17:15):
I believe in equality. Sorry,make sure I go back on that,
but you know, to make surethat like everyone has enough or to
make sure can AI well, canI even like help us with our addiction
issues? Can I help us withour mental health issues? Can AI you
know, based on like yeah,like analyzing, like watching and analyzing,
like like if you, for example, had some kind of AI assystem,

(01:17:38):
right that it's like in your home, which they already are anyway, that's
not even science fictionator, but youhave your AI assistance, You have your
Google homes, your next hubs,you have your Alexes, you have all
that shit like that. Plus AIis able to like figure out your habits
when you're likely to relapse, whenyou're likely to yeah, and knows how
to keep you on engaged. Andif you start like mechanizing the AI as

(01:18:02):
well, which this is the powerwhere it gets really scary, I suppose.
But you have sort of like humanoidlooking things and supermarkets that are like
there was a place and like Valenciathat had like robots going around collecting plates
and really it was like a helperfor the way there's mattresses. Yeah,
it was like it was going aroundthe restaurant on its own. And was

(01:18:26):
it like on wheels or yeah,it was kind of like this like probably
about four and a half a talllike thing on wheels that had a little
smiley face on it. Yeah,and it comes with as like a helper,
like it will come up. Yeah. They had like a sushi bear
where it was you're training sushi andhas it comes out. It comes up
whining from the restaurant with plates onit, and you're like, this is

(01:18:49):
fucking me. You're like, whatthe fuck like? But no, Look,
you can't spell ai without aliens,you know, or vice aliens without
ai. Saw. I don't knowhow we got on to it, but
we're here. Yeah. I enjoyedthis episode Demon. Yeah, I think
it's This is probably a forty percentepisode. Sixty percent of us do and

(01:19:10):
what we do sometimes they're the bestones. Listen. That's the way it
is. Thanks to everyone for listening. We loveviously appreciate it. I've been
robbed. I've been naming master fullsover and now.