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September 19, 2024 59 mins
In Today's episode we are joined by Emma from Real Life Ghost Stories, the craic was had. We cover a load of topics including cryptids, ghosts, metaphysical bigfoot, and more. 

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
I wanted to quick against my enemies.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Yeah you see, you wanted to say and then all
little raise you.

Speaker 4 (00:16):
But Apple gets you from the wheeld.

Speaker 5 (00:29):
Hello there everyone, what is up? I am rob By?
Oh damn em would you believe it's a many folks?
You're here once again? What is happening?

Speaker 3 (00:37):
I'm gone there for a while. It's gone there for
a while. I was just getting my mind right, get
me mind right, getting teeth?

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Did you are back now?

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Not turkey teeth, stupid listeners. It's Portuguese, pearly white. No.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
I got the constructed there. There is now constructed tooth there.

Speaker 6 (00:57):
I did a great job.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
She y house there, she even put the ridges. She
made you know your toothter she maybe she was all like,
which means congratulations.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
So time, yeah, I deny, aside.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
From the dental horror because it's just awful, like getting
any work done in your mouth is just crap. But
we were a few days in Pharaoh. The waters of
Portugal very cold Atlantic waters. It's not very it's because
you go in there the sun is beating down on you.
Everyone's hot everyone, the men actually hot both ways. Temperature

(01:42):
they're very hot temperature, well not as hot as me.
I was the whitest person I saw there for like
the week or whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
Already sons.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Portuguese speaker. We went out to special spots.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Man doesn't know about Pharaoh's very well. But it was
like John's coming in on the boat with his pocon
This fuck, they're actually to be fair.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
There was kind of an English I probably.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Wasn't that I think back, but I was definitely the
red hairrist person that I saw there.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
Albe fair, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Alba?

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Did you know that the a L before everything is
because of when the Middle Easterns were there?

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Alba, al gare Anything.

Speaker 6 (02:29):
With a L is due to the.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Influence.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
What was the moors the moors?

Speaker 5 (02:39):
Imagine my imagine I was able to pull out the
moors the moors.

Speaker 6 (02:45):
You were missed to be fair.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
I think that your self and team as there was
no doubt, not fantastic, lovely said the teeth.

Speaker 6 (02:55):
I saw the video was.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Like Jesus, give me a run for me money here.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
It's a lovely man. Strange man's some fuzzy familiars. The
is the new Moniker and we will be collaborating with him.
Again over Halloween and yeah, speaking of collaborations, today we're
joined by Emma from Real Life Goals Stories, which is
really good. Before we get to that, just like your mind,
I want to check out our Patreon, send some support

(03:20):
over there. You'll get access to exclusive episodes. You'll get
access to our discord if you want to chat with us.
We usually post kind of stuff there.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
I don't I reply to you. If you tag me
in something, I'll reply to you. If you don't, I won't.

Speaker 5 (03:33):
You get your exclusive I don't know if I said that,
but they're there, so yeah, head on over check out
our Patreon. It is indeed what keeps this podcast going,
so it is always much appreciated. Em And if you
have any spooky stories crypto encounters, where do this them in.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Seeing a ghoulish Portuguese specter like me? It was my
wife all along.

Speaker 6 (03:59):
Come on.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Anyway, if you hadn't experienced like.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
That, oh right, lava Ao now fallow Portuguesee which means
I don't speak Portuguese.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Montpuz podcast at gmail dot com. Sending your spooky stories
bring you.

Speaker 5 (04:19):
Up there there, So yeah, we have got Emma. We
will get strength for that. Really great conversation. Yeah, great conversation.
So this is one of the first cool Cool Dude
we put out a port of call.

Speaker 6 (04:31):
To our listeners.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
It was about a month and more and a half ago,
but it was just before I went to Japan and
you went off Skute Done, so there's been a long time.
But basically people sent dinner suggestions for people to clap with.
Emma was the first one that came up. So we
were like, yeah, deadly and Emma and I we followed
each other on Instagram anyway, so it.

Speaker 6 (04:46):
Was a perfect fit.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
But great, great episode, really fun chat. She's got some
cool spooky stories as well for you all to check out.
Next week, we're back to the Ammon's Haunting. We've got
the second part of that.

Speaker 6 (05:00):
I think we.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
Should be back to normal minifoces then in the following week.
But anyway, we've got a couple of guests spots lined
up over well on the lead up to Halloween, I
suppose is probably the best way to publish, and then
probably some over the course of Halloween as well. So
exciting times. We're in the liminal times. It's getting into
fucking autumn or fall if you're American. Yeah, I do

(05:21):
kind of.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Like to them fall it's cool. It's so on the nose.
You can't say what are you doing for?

Speaker 3 (05:31):
They just make funny American vernacular. You can't you can't
say fall, my man, because you lived in Canada for
so long, would occasionally say fall. I had to fight
it away because it's way cooler sounding an autumn with
a silent hen.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
Autumnal is nice.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Autumnal is nice, the autumnal days.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
Fall is also nice.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Fall is better. It's a bit spooky, just fall be
fell when winter comes all.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
Yeah, trying to think if we've got anything else before
we jump into the park because we were going to
do it at the end, but well, actually do it
at the starter. Just a little bit of hard because
the episode of the well, it went that longer than
I thought it was, which is good. But yeah, there's
been anything that's going on with just a couple of things.
Video games finished, Astrobot amazing, Yeah, ten out of time.
I would say, even as good as any Nintendo platform er.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
So and also just rely it's been reviewing mad It's
really good, mad Man, It's just really good.

Speaker 5 (06:26):
And musically we're doing any music picked up. I kind
of because I wanted to go on to the oasis.

Speaker 6 (06:33):
Oh yeah, I.

Speaker 5 (06:34):
Would like to have seen him, you know, I would
like to have I would like to have seen him.
Didn't get tickets because of that food, but I had
an opportunity to buy those four hundred draw tickets.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
I got insane that Dynamic Prime.

Speaker 6 (06:46):
I was like, get fucked. But what I did by was.

Speaker 5 (06:52):
Around the same time some company releasing Definitely. Maybe it
was a limited number on vinylay but it was really
cool fucking picture and I pictured this but like colored vinyl,
but like cool, So about that?

Speaker 6 (07:04):
Listen to it?

Speaker 5 (07:05):
I haven't listened to definitely maybe since I was about nine.

Speaker 6 (07:10):
Album Yeah, grand like.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
To be fair solid. I think a lot of those
are just like ear bleed. You've heard him so much
you just can't.

Speaker 5 (07:16):
Definitely, maybe it doesn't have as many there's only one
or two tracks on that now that would have been.

Speaker 6 (07:20):
Heavily heavily read.

Speaker 5 (07:22):
Champagne after that after that, so then yeah, I've been
listening to a band called Magdalena Bay.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah before very they're actually really good and pop Prague pop.

Speaker 6 (07:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
I've not been listening too much music or playing games,
but I have been reading books. Finished Joanna's book Fantastic
Book Email.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
I wanted I'm gonna email her now because I want
to be like a cool book. I really like the
part where.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
And I was reading another a really good book by
a lady from Buenos Aires, Marina Enrique there Man. The
stories are so good. They're basically like poverty ghost stories.
It's it's just about, like, you know, the difficulty of
living in Buenos Aires, everything that's going on there, political turmoil,

(08:16):
all that sort of stuff. Gang's roving the streets. But
then it has all these like spooky aspects, like when
we did a sandom were there's a story that kind
of loosely references that.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
But they all have these little spooky things.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
It's called What's Left from the Fire, what was left
over from the fire, something like that.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
But it's it's a really really good book. I've been
enjoying it.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
Yeah, I think that's it. From the media wise, I
haven't been consuming TV. I tried out that Chaos Shaw.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
What's chaos.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
Garbage love Jeff Golb so I was like a love
Greek mythology.

Speaker 6 (08:51):
So I was like, sign me up.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Okay, it's like the current take on that that thing.

Speaker 6 (08:59):
It was a mess for me. It was a mess.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Actually I forgot. Yes, I did watch a thing.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
I watched Terminator zero, the animated adapt adaptation of Terminator,
which is brilliant. You should watch eight episodes pretty straight. Sorry,
talk about chaos again. It's really good. It's like they
do a much more. They moralize in a good way
where you're kind of going, is it okay to do that?

Speaker 2 (09:26):
To get this? And the machines?

Speaker 3 (09:28):
It's yeah, it's just I thought it was done really well.
Animation is pretty good.

Speaker 5 (09:32):
I also there's a comic book series, the prequel to
the new Alien film.

Speaker 6 (09:39):
Oh yeah, and it's all what happens on that spaceship.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
First?

Speaker 6 (09:44):
Yeah. Yeah, so pre order that ye pretty good.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
Does the usual hair milk the nerds?

Speaker 4 (09:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (09:51):
I got two of the variations. One is the movie cover.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Did you see without giving it away, the alien from that?
You see the fellow who played that alien?

Speaker 6 (10:02):
He big?

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah, big, just but like you're kind of when you
look at it, Ego, wow, basketball player looks so awkward.

Speaker 6 (10:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
Seeing a couple of them in Japan, I think they
were basketball players. Big two are like and they're like alright, yeah, okay,
I thought it was tall.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
And you're six foot five and then you go to
Japan to be dwarfed chance.

Speaker 5 (10:21):
Alright, and they were walking around donkey oodi as well
to make it even more comical.

Speaker 6 (10:25):
Donkey yes, like just yeah, job, which.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
I think that's about it. Maybe in the future, let
us know if youel like it listeners. Actually, I was
thinking more towards the end of the minifolds every so often.

Speaker 6 (10:35):
That doesn't have to be every week.

Speaker 5 (10:37):
But yeah, we talk about media and we're consuming we
consume a lot of media.

Speaker 6 (10:41):
Really, some people do enjoy that.

Speaker 5 (10:45):
Let us know what's sticking in at the end of
a minifolds, you know, just kind of as a ramble
out of the show. But yeah, without further ado, Fox
here is Emma. Wait wait, wait, Emma, welcome to the podcast.

Speaker 6 (10:57):
How's it going.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
Hi, Thanks for having me. It's a pleasure to be here.
I'm very excited.

Speaker 5 (11:02):
Yes, it's great to have you here. Yeah, we were
just talking. We had a false start there, but we
were talking about this time of the year. We're getting
into the change of seasons, getting into the liminal times.
How are you getting awad of you enjoying it?

Speaker 2 (11:13):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
I'm a Halloween girly, you know. And I live in
the southeast of England and it is hot in the summer,
like every day is hot from about June to September.
But I live for jeans and jumpers. I live for Halloween.
I just love Halloween season. But people in England don't
celebrate Halloween the same way as we do in Ireland,

(11:35):
and it makes me very sad.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
Yeah, it's a funny thing because yeah, we were saying
there about guy Fox Night and stuff like that, but
that's a different thing, right, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
Very brand the Catholics not not really my vibe.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
We were on the world more into extinguishing the Cademy. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's cool.

Speaker 5 (11:55):
We're getting into the kind of the mood for the
pard doing a few spoky stories and people are sending
in stock Did you have much of before you started
your podcast? Did you have much of a knowledge of
so and Halloween all that.

Speaker 6 (12:08):
Kind of thing.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
Yeah, I think I did, because I love folklore and
I absolutely love old Irish folklore. I think it is
fascinating and I think people don't know enough about it,
even within our own country. I think people don't know
enough about it, and I kind of like, I have

(12:31):
always been really interested in, you know, the darker side
of things, the spooky side of things. Spooky stories like
the beliefs that people had, particularly in rural Ireland back
in the day, are They're really interesting and even now,
you know, being from rural Ireland myself, things like the
cure I don't know how how big you guys are,

(12:52):
and the cure but.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Not the band like the whiskey.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
Oh do you guys don't know about the cure the.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Air of a dog.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Well, there's also the cure when you're Yeah, but the
cure as in going to somebody, going to like a
witch doctor somebody was the cure for that kind of thing. Yeah,
So that kind of folk already fascinates me, and I
think it's and it always has. So that kind of

(13:24):
leads into, like when I was younger, that led into
a general fascination with spooky stuff. Like at one point
I was obsessed with ghost Adventures. I don't know if
you've ever seen the TV show.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Is that the one where the guy is like, you
better get out of her ghost? Or is that Taps
is the other one?

Speaker 4 (13:40):
If it's Taps, they do the same thing.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Yeah, because I know what the fellow, because we're actually
doing we're in the middle of recording an episode on
the Demon House, which is the one where the social
worker had saw the kid climbing the walls and all
the rest of it. And that's what is his name,
Zach B mean, yeah, thats like Bilbo. But he's always
challenged the ghosts, like and I only I saw a
rough gut that just showed like, you know, you won't

(14:05):
believe Zac's top ten craziest.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Collouts, but he really he brings it to him.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
But he's also like he is just absurd as a character.
And in the early days of Ghost Adventures, he was
sort of nerdy and a bit sweet, and I like,
I liked him, you know what I mean. I was like,
he's just very earnest. And then as time went on,
the whole series, the whole show just becomes more and
more mental, and it's all everything's a demon. And he's

(14:33):
going in and he's like, I'm gonna I'm gonna fight
these demons. And he's in, he's in the house and
he's like, you're just a son of a bitch, and
he's a real man. And then there's one here, one
of the guys is like, the demon is telling me
to drink this whiskey and he's just neck and shots
the whiskey. He's like, it's not It's not me, it's
the demon. And you're watching it, going, how are you?

(14:55):
How are you all doing this and taking it seriously?

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, I'm kind of by that.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Yeah, because the one because my sister loved, she called
the taps. Maybe it was Ghost Hunters rather than Ghost
Adventures or something like that, but they seemed they just
seemed much less hysterical, I suppose in terms of their
the way they.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Approached the ghosts.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
But yeah, I would have watched a lot of that
with her, but she was actually I always loved boclo Or.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
I loved the idea. I was had this feeling that
I was surrounded by.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Loads of mad things that I couldn't see from a
and my part of my family are all half demented
as well, so I think that's in the blood somewhere.
But my sister was mad into all those shows that
you were just something out there. But I don't think
she ever introduced me to ghost others. I'm away in
from somewhere else, but I actually want to watch it now.
Based on your description.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
To watch it. It's wild in the beginning, like I said, genuinely,
like I liked it. They made they had made this
film themselves, this group of guys where they investigated this
haunted house, and it was really lovely, like because it
wasn't over produced, it wasn't like you know that really
Hollywoodized horror. And then as time went on, like he

(16:06):
started becoming sort of I don't know, cooler in inverted
commas and started like dating Playboy models and stuff, and
they just it just it's it's just ridiculous, like ridiculous,
get into it.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yeah, I think I think that's that should be on
the Halloween watch list because I think he was he
as he seems handsome, if the guy I'm thinking of,
if I'm remembering correctly and in my mind, since I
just imagine him getting sort of abs and.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
Yes, that's it. I went to I mean, in fairness,
he has created some big business. I went to his
He has a haunted museum in Las Vegas and it's
I mean incredibly problematic, but very very well done and
fought me. Was he making a mint out of it?
You know?

Speaker 2 (16:56):
It's like if Ed Warren was doing push ups, like, yeah,
exactly did you find?

Speaker 5 (17:04):
It's kind of something that we found over the over
the course of the podcast that maybe there's a lot
of Irish folklore and spooky stuff that you just wouldn't
be aware of.

Speaker 6 (17:12):
I've had you on the podcast, right.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
Oh yeah, definitely. Like I've come across things all the
time and I'm like, I've never heard of this before.
I came across one the other day called the Far
Derek because heard of it. I never had come across before.
The actually is a little, a little red haired, I
don't know, leprechawn type creature that just is out to
do harm. Okay, that's it. That's that's it.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yeah, I'm one of them.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Because my cousin we did an episode on Petticoat Loose.
I don't know if you've heard of her, and it's
a it's a mad focal thing. But we were doing
a hike and she's like, oh, this is where petticoat
Loose is from, and I was like, who's petticoat Loosing?
Sure enough, it's it's a it's a great little story
about this, you know, semi witch lady and she did
the town kills or whatever. And she comes back and

(18:02):
she has a ton in one hand and a ton
in the other hand out of nowhere, and she can
crush all these poor lads going around on horses. But Grace,
Grace steeped in sort of folklore and mysticism and all
that sort of stuff. So yeah, I think Ireland Ireland
and Scotland Wales. Yeah, and we seem to have a
very similar kind of vocal tradition stuff.

Speaker 5 (18:24):
Yeah, for sure. What would you think about? Like, and
this is something I was only talking about this with
Tim there last week. As pursuing the subject matter that
you do pursue like and check out. Has that MEAs
you believe more or less in all things spooky?

Speaker 4 (18:40):
This is such a hard question.

Speaker 5 (18:42):
Isn't, Because I think for me it has.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
I think for me it hasn't. But it does swing
wildly from one to the other.

Speaker 6 (18:55):
Yeah, And.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
Like, I've had a very intense paranormal experience right that
I have no explanation for which I will talk about.
But even at that, I'm still like so much of
the paranormal I think is about psychology. However, that doesn't
mean people are not having experiences, whether it's a ghost,

(19:22):
a separate entity or whether it is, you know, because
they're really tired. They've been working the night shift, and
you know, they see something like the corner of their eye,
but it's actually just tiredness. They're still experiencing something terrifying, right,
And I think that's the more important thing, is that
regardless of whether you believe it's a ghost or whether
you believe it's psychological, that person is still impacted by it.

(19:46):
And that's the power of it all. Really.

Speaker 5 (19:49):
Yeah, And that seems to be the thing as well.
Like that, and it seems like almost everyone that does
things paranormal is involved in it in any way. They
seem to all have the opinion like it could be
psychological or it could be paranormal. We don't really know.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
I think in some cases it's it's probably both as well.
Even that a lot of people say polder geist activity
is actually yeah, it's it's psychological, not even necessarily trauma.
Sometimes it's just people maybe hitting puberty and all of
a sudden, the wall starts.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
I mean, sorry, did you not fight puberty? Traumatic trauma?

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Everything was running around the room, you know, I was like, yeah,
this this checks out. I had dreaming at me from
the doorways that we were riding walls and everything. Yeah,
climbing everything back.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
But it's yeah, it's a funny one because funny enough
for me. I've found that doing this, the only thing
for me it gets is like I'm convinced some of
it is definitely true, if that makes sense. I totally
agree about a lot of the psychological stuff as well,
and certainly that that's a window into your own Yeah,
maybe showing you back what you're dealing with on the

(21:05):
inside in some ways.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
But yeah, it's very deep. I liked that.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
I just I do this, man, I just step in everything.
I usually don't know where I'm going. But but you know,
I think I kind of go with both of them.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
What about you, robber, you both know.

Speaker 5 (21:21):
I think not like I think I would have went
into a completely probably agnostic and just was kind of like,
look whatever, we get a bit of venue. Yeah, I've
definitely happened a bit like I probably would have been
more like Emma more so. And I think even I've
gotten I've definitely gotten softer on honest the Maria hair
because you're just like, I suppose you get that many rights.
So many people say stuff you're like it all just

(21:43):
be psychological, do you know what I mean? Like it's
it's a tricky one. But I found, like I mean,
after listening to Brother Richard last weeks, you know what I.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Mean, he would drive you to our Lord.

Speaker 4 (21:59):
It's like he's a very compelling person to listen to.
He's a person that you just want to believe.

Speaker 5 (22:06):
Yeah, yeah, he's brilliant, like he was sort of about like, yeah,
people are just Brother Richard. He's a great speaker, he's
a fantastic of that kind of thing. But yeah, tell
us about the paranormal experience. We can't just leave you.
You can't get off the hook like that without telling
us a bit more.

Speaker 4 (22:22):
Honestly, I've told this story so many times and it
still gives me the heb gbs. So I used to
live in Leash, as we said, And if you ask
your partner about the red brick im portly she will
she will know the well what we used to call

(22:44):
the mental hospital, which is really not the PC thing
to call it. So I it's a psychiatric hospital, but
it also was a hospital for people with intellectual disabilities.
And it's this huge it's a huge red brick building.
What part of it was hence being called the Red
Brick and initially when it was built, which gives me
the heeb gbs. It was built in like the eighteen thirties,

(23:06):
and it had this massive, like ten foot wall all
around it. And you know, in the eighteen thirties, obviously
the patients they weren't medicated. They didn't have medication at
the time, et cetera. So there was a book that
was written about it that was called something like it
was something like when the walls came tumbling down or something,
and they wrote in the book about how they used

(23:29):
to hear the screaming of patients but behind this ten
foot wall that nobody knew what was going on, you know,
in this completely self sustained building. And I ended up
working there when I was seventeen. I started working there, Wow,
and I was a nurse's aide, and it was it

(23:49):
was an experience as a seventeen year old, like you're
working with people. I was working on wards with people
adults with profound intellectual disabilities, and it was yeah, gone,
it was hard going, but it would you know what.
It was a great life learning lesson And the building
itself was huge and like big parts of it were
kind of unused, and other parts of it were used

(24:12):
as offices and before I had started work. Now, I mean,
this is not that long ago. So I started working
there when I was seventeen, and it was only a
couple of years before that they had had an exorcism
mass in the building. So basically at night times there
was so much activity that nighttime staff were saying we're

(24:34):
not going to work the night shift anymore until somebody
does something right. And I was sort of like, I
can't really like is it true. And I spoke to
one of the nurses one day and he was saying
that he was working the night shift, him and another
psychiatric nurse working the night shift, and they were on
the middle floor and on the floor above them, they

(24:56):
could hear all these footsteps running around right, And they
were like, okay, well that floor is locked. Nobody should
be up there, but we need to go up and
see in case there is somebody locked in the floor
somebody's broken in. So they went upstairs. Nothing nothing was
there was nobody up there, but all of the furniture
had been moved around, right, and they were I remember

(25:16):
this nurse telling me that he was standing beside the
panel of light switches, and he heard this click, and
he watched as the light switches went off one by one,
and he said that him and this other nurse two
a two grown experienced men. They looked at each other
and they were like no. So they went downstairs and
they were like, absolutely not. And things would happen, like

(25:39):
the girls would set up for breakfast the next morning.
They'd go in the next morning and all the breakfast
stuff would be laid out on the floor even though
nobody had been upstairs, and there was all sorts of
like weird shenanigans happening. And eventually they brought in a
priest to do this exorcism mass on the top floor
of the building. Now bear in mind, and I used

(26:00):
to work on that top floor on my own all
the time, right I was, And I never saw anything,
and it was it didn't feel particularly spooky. There were
parts of the building that did. But I was like, well,
I'm here now, so I'm just going to have to
get on with it.

Speaker 5 (26:14):
What entree at the time, You're fab eighty in nineteen
was it?

Speaker 4 (26:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (26:17):
I was.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
I was seventeen when I started, and I worked there
for like five years. So you know, I was there
for a long time, and it was only in my
maybe fourth year of being there that I had an experience.
And I just need to say this now, right. I
know I'm a podcaster and I'm a storyteller, but absolutely
no part of this is exaggerated for dramatic effect. This
really happened. People can, you know, think whatever they want

(26:41):
of it. But it was a Monday morning. It was
a bank holiday Monday, and I was working a short
ship that was eight in the morning thutugh twelve in
the morning, and I wasn't meant to be on a break,
but I'd snuck out for a fag, right, So I
was standing standing outside against the wall. It was snowing,
I remember that it was really cold, and I was

(27:04):
smoking with another girl, and there was the building was
in front of me, three stories, and the three stories
were only used as offices, and it was bank call
day Monday, so nobody was there. And I looked up
and in the middle window there was a girl looking
back at me. And I can remember feeling my stomach

(27:28):
swoop but not fully understanding why. And we sort of,
I would say, we locked eyes for about three seconds.
This wasn't like a fleeting glance like she saw me.
I saw her, and then she drifted away from the
window right and I was like, what the fuck just happened?

(27:50):
And next thing I knew, the girl that was next
to me was gone. She had run right and she
was trying to get her key into the door to
open the door. And I was like, what is it,
what's wrong? And she goes, did you not see that
girl in the window? And I was like, yes, I did.
I did see that girl. So I went into the
I went into the ward and I thought, shit, like
what if it is actually somebody though, like it's probably

(28:13):
a person. Ye, yes, somebody's somebody's out about or somebody's
where they shouldn't be. So I went to security and
I said, look, I'm after seeing somebody in the Child
and Family Unit, which is all offices, and I've seen
somebody in there. You're going to have to go and
check if they're in there. And the security guard was like,
there isn't anybody in there, and I was like, yeah,
but I've just seen somebody, so can he please go

(28:34):
and check. So he went and he checked and the
doors were all code locked, which meant that in order
to get in you had to put in a code,
and if you were in there at this point, even
with the doors locked behind you, the alarms would be
going off. Right, there was nobody scheduled to be in
There was nobody in the building. And then I was
like shit, because I didn't want to describe what you

(29:00):
had looked like to the security guard. Right, but this
woman that was this girl, this woman that was in
the window, she had long, dark hair, and she was
wearing like a white kind of shift dress. I spoke,
maybe it could have been like a hospital gown. I
don't know, but she had like black hollows for eyes.

Speaker 6 (29:22):
Oh classic.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
And it, honestly, when I think about it, it makes
me want to cry, like it makes me because it
freaked me out so much. So I went back into
the ward and I told the nurse in charge and
she was like fuck that. Like I was like, I
don't know what I'm just telling you because I like,
what if there is somebody in there and whatever? So
that was fine, and about maybe about a year later,

(29:48):
there was a conversation on the ward about like ghost
stories and stuff, and there was a load of us
working together, and one of the girls was like, Oh,
tell them what happened to you in Child and Family
and I was like okay, yeah, and I told them
what happened. And one of the nurses looked at me
and he rolled up his sleeve and he was all
out in goosebumps. And I was like, oh my god,
I wasn't that scary. And he went, I see her

(30:09):
all the time, and I was like, the fuck team
her all the time. So he used to work the
night shift on the bottom floor and he would be
in the nurse's station, which is basically a glass a
glass office in the middle of the dorm so that
you can have eyes on everybody all the time. And
he said the first night he was working the night shift,

(30:31):
he saw this woman with black hair and a white
dress sprint past the office or past the office right.
So he was sitting there and he was like, shit,
like one of the patients is up, and about I
need to go and check. So he went and checked.
Nobody was up and about all the patients were accounted for,
and he was like, Okay, that was weird. And then
it happened again. And it happened again, and he said

(30:51):
it used to happen regularly when he was working the
night shift, but he didn't tell anybody because he was like,
I don't want people to think that I am. I
don't know, yeah, not not very well and not managing
work in the night tipt very well. So yeah, that
was my that was my paranormal access.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Yes, the ghosts are scary enough, especially with the black, down,
hollowed eyes running ghosts, especially terrifying.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
What are you running for?

Speaker 1 (31:20):
You're dead?

Speaker 4 (31:21):
Stop running.

Speaker 5 (31:23):
We've had We've actually had and I'm gonna ask you
that too, Like because you get writings all the time, like,
have you had stories We've had hospital all stories like
where footprints are involved, things like that do happen? Have
you ever put like two and two together with some
stories and you're like, actually that kind of lens.

Speaker 6 (31:40):
Weight what I saw?

Speaker 5 (31:41):
Have you had any kind of similar stories coming or
anything like that.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
Yeah, I've seen a lot of stories with people who
see I don't know, entities with dark, hollowed out eyes.
I don't want to think about what that means because
it scares, like, it really does scare me to think.
Christ if you know, a lot of the patients who
resided in that facility had a terrible time Yeah, then

(32:06):
you're thinking, you know, a ship time in life and
now you're dead with no eyes.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
We yeah, you always kind of hope that it's sort
of an echo of when they were sad. You know
that they're not actually still trapped there or whatever, but yeah,
you would hope.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
I like to believe that it's It's funny because we
were talking about, you know, thinking a lot of it
is psychological versus actual, say paranormal. And what I always
find is that when I'm when it's daylight and I'm
just going around doing whatever, I'm like.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Oh, ghosts are everywhere. Ghosts are so real. Everything's real metaphysical,
Bigfoot definitely true. Dog Man is in my garden. Like
I'm totally like that.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
And as soon as the sun goes down and I'm alone,
I'm like, that's all stupid.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
No, none of that is real. There is only material things.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Because I just I'll work myself intob zone.

Speaker 5 (32:54):
Which is which is good opportunity for another question.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Little crypture, crypt.

Speaker 5 (33:09):
Cryptids or ghosts in your opinion, which are more likely
to be around?

Speaker 4 (33:16):
Do you know this is such a horrible question.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Because some of the cryptis are way Yeah, we shall
qualify by saying the more ridiculous or ghost You're like, yeah,
that makes sense.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
But listen, right, you say some of the have you
seen some of the ship that's in the ocean. Yeah,
that's stuff going on in the ocean.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
There's flop fish.

Speaker 4 (33:41):
You go deep down into the dark ocean where they're
all lighting up and whatever it is that they do, like,
they're all hideous, they're mad looking.

Speaker 5 (33:48):
More blod fish doesn't look isn't actually a blob. It's
a normal fish, but pressurized he turns into a blob.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Do you ever see a monk and it's like the
ice in the fish bongers and it just looks like
it's sort of demon that's been expelled from hell.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Yeah, it's awful. But the blood fish, the borl of
blood fish, never did. It's the only fish.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
Only once is a girlfriend.

Speaker 5 (34:15):
Yeah, so I do think then it's.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
All that is on the line.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
So we're talking about the more ridiculous cryptids.

Speaker 5 (34:25):
Yeah, like okay, like let's just say like big fuss
tchup of cabra and louckness monster versus ghosts.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
See, I desperately want the Lucknest Monster to be real.
I'm a big fan of our yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
That we visited Lockness recently. When you're there, you get
where did you do the tour?

Speaker 2 (34:48):
The Luckness Center and all that?

Speaker 4 (34:51):
Is that the one where he's got like where there's
there's a little like toy dinosaurs. I was trying to
explain that to people recently and I was like, it's
just a ma this place I've ever been. And when
I was going in, when I was paying for it,
your man said to me, are you sure you want
to go in here? And I was like, yeah, I'm
sure and he was like, you're a bit old for this.

Speaker 6 (35:12):
Rude, it's me.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
I got so upset because they kept disparate.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
They were like, maybe this is the Lockness and they're
showing you the films and everything, and yeah, it's actually
constructed really.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Well, that's are amazing.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
But then your man's just like that's probably not real though,
And I was like, no, how dare itself? Like if
anywhere is to lie to me, this is the place
that should lie to me about Locknet's being real.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
I wanted to be yeah, I'm already here, like I'm
just mulder, that's just me.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
I just wanted to believe it at all and.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Go on. Sorry, I was just gonna say, there's only
a small part of me that's Scully where I could
be abducted by an alien and still be like, no,
it's total trash, you know.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
No, I'm just having an episode. It's fine.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
I'm just this is like, is acting up again with
your shop? Will you?

Speaker 6 (35:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (35:57):
Absolutely, I'm going to say that, can I Can I
answer the question as what I want to be real?

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (36:03):
Absolutely?

Speaker 4 (36:03):
Yeah, I want cryptids to be real. I love a
cryptid story like I love them. I also think that
in the sense of people see ghosts all the time,
ghosts are real, do you know what I mean? People
experience them, so they are in that essence real, And
I still have no explanation for my own ghost stories,
so I can't really say they aren't real. So I'm

(36:24):
going to say both. Sorry, just yeah, I think that's
totally fair.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
I even go a bit further because I kind of
believe in metaphysical Bigfoot and I really struggling to find
people who agree with me.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Do you know what?

Speaker 4 (36:38):
Every so often, right, I like, I'll cover a big
Foot story and metaphysical Bigfoot comes up, right, and initially
I'm like, ha ha ha, this is so silly, and
then fucking four weird podcasts in I'm like metaphysical bigfoot
all along.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Each felt like it's the only explanation for people their
lights when they're seeing bigfoot.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
None of this makes sense.

Speaker 5 (37:03):
Actually had a moment like that because I think we
talked about it maybe two or three weeks ago before
you went away on the podcast. You were saying like, a, yes,
these three toad footprints.

Speaker 6 (37:12):
Are known to a pair. I was like, ayeah, of course.

Speaker 5 (37:16):
And then but then Tim was on, and him is
a great one for like the metaphysical discussion and all that.
The lady with the was like, he gives you the
answer where you're like, oh, yeah, metaphysical bigfoot of course.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
But so much of those people who who you know,
they're big in the big Foot circles, they've always believed
in physical, biological bigfoot. And then the more time they
spend on like Weds from sascot sas Squatch chronicles, He's like, ah, yeah,
the more time I've looked at this, it's getting really
hard to ignore metaphysical bigfoot.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
And if metaphysical.

Speaker 6 (37:54):
It's not, it is waves in the community. Man as well.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Dog Man is like dokness Scott right now, it's incredible.

Speaker 4 (38:03):
I love dog man stories too, They're epic. I am
going to give you a recommendation, by the way, that
my friend sent to me last night. You may have
heard of this. I had not heard of this TV
show just when we're talking about like metaphysical Bigfoot, et cetera.
It is called Alaska Monsters, and I was watching it

(38:23):
last night and it's a group of fellas right who
are in like the back arsen nowhere in Alaska. And
last night they were looking for otter Man, which is
an indigenous you know, an indigenous legend. But one of
the fellas is just called Face. The other one is
called Krusty, and they're like, they're looking for this was

(38:45):
I was in bed last night watching this, like rolling
around laughing. They're looking for this otter Man. And one
of them falls into the lake and he's like, my god,
leg they just had shooting shooting their guns. It's entertaining.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
This is a reality TV show, because I thought you
were not with a satire for a second.

Speaker 7 (39:04):
No.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
No, someone who fell into the lake. His job is
trap engineer. And I'm willing to bet that they trap
us some total of nothing in the entirety of the series.

Speaker 8 (39:15):
A couple of clams met physic cryptids are hard to catch.
It's not his fault, it's not faces fault. It needn't
blessed or something.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
We need salt and iron to the physically.

Speaker 5 (39:32):
So one of the fun parts or pod is that
you review sort of horror movies and stuff like that.
So we want a good recommendation. Basically, I would we
say this year or maybe we'll be said in the
last couple of years. I feel like I know this
is I could be ignorant in saying this, but I
feel like there hasn't been that many good hearts.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
There hasn't.

Speaker 5 (39:54):
I would argue, are there any standouts for you?

Speaker 4 (39:57):
Maybe in the last while, so you you guys are
currently researching. I don't know if I'm the House of
two hundred Demons.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Oh yeah, the way it just came on Netflix.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
Deliverance, the Deliverance, I don't do you know. It was
absolutely fantastic until it was terrible. It was one of
those films where I was like, Wow, this is really
good because it's complex and it's nuanced, and she's the
mother is a really unlikable character because she's making ship decisions,
but she's just trying her best to be a good man.
And then it just goes off the rails completely and

(40:28):
you're like, oh.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
This could have been good.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Did you see Long Legs?

Speaker 4 (40:34):
Yes, I hate this.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Haven't finished.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
I watched the first hour of it and I was like, yeah,
I love this, but I haven't I haven't seen the
last thirty minutes. But that's why I hate these, right, Okay,
so I still may hate it. What what got me
was that, like they do these jump scares that aren't scary,
like they're just and they're read. They're done really well
because usually you know, the demon jumps up and he's
like oh boo, like in serious or whatever.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
But they really made me. Yes, yeah exactly whisper all that.
But yeah, that was the last one I.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Saw her the tonally, I suppose I was like, yeah,
this is giving me the do you know tonally?

Speaker 4 (41:11):
Actually yes, it was really good, but I just took
Umbridge with huge elements of it, particularly the last thirty minutes,
probably the part especially when people were like, my god,
Nicholas Cage is unrecognizable. Yeah, he's full of prosthetics.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
He looks like games.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
And Also, it is definitely Nicholas Cage because he's doing
the same performance that he does for everything, which is
just batshit so stop.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
That he got like one oscar so long ago, and
I wonder if they ever tried to take him back,
Like Nick, we totally missed it.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
S bad call people recommend that, Yeah, yeah, I think
I'll have to wait.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
I watched it on the train to Dublin, and I
just felt a little bit weird watching it when people
were around me as watch top and I was like, right,
And then I was afraid they might have a creepy
sex scene because the thing was so unsettling anyway, and
if that popped up, I'd be kicked off and then.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
A list on a registered somewhere.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Not again, that's what happened, But.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
You said, do I So in the last couple of
years there has been I would say a complete lack
of good horror films, because they're all very Hollywood eyed.
You go and see a horror film and you're like,
I went to see Imaginary I think it was.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Called with the Little Bear one.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
That was horrendous. I did. I made a TikTok about it,
and I said, I said something about having a mental
breakdown and and I got and this woman was like,
how daary trivialize mental hurry? I'm sorry for a joke.
But one film that I absolutely loved in the last

(42:52):
couple of years was Men.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
I haven't seen that, but I love everything Alex Garland
has everyone, including the books he's ready, the books he's written.
It's the only movie his I haven't seen yet.

Speaker 4 (43:03):
I'd highly recommended.

Speaker 6 (43:05):
I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
Yeah, yeah, it's really it's really good. Really, it's really unsettling.
Rory Kanear plays all of the men in it, which
is mind blowing. When you watch it, you're like, ship,
it's still r.

Speaker 5 (43:20):
I must have had a goal. Did you see that one?
There's one with is it? One of the Presley's is
in it and it came out the last couple of years.
One of the daughters of Priscilla, Priscilla Presley have daughters
is one of them people. It's it's set out in
a cabin, snowy cabin that gets stuck out there and
she and I can't even remember, but it was awful.

(43:43):
It was one of the last hard films I see
and I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
The Cavin Priscilla Presley.

Speaker 5 (43:47):
It's not one of the I can't remember, and I
think it's a Presley anyway, let me look up there
and i'll check it out.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
It not at all.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Like Jason Priestley from school. I would watch him stuck
in a snowy cabin to be fair.

Speaker 6 (44:02):
Well, I'm looking for that. Do you have.

Speaker 5 (44:05):
Any spooky story on your podcast in particular that's kind
of stuck with you.

Speaker 6 (44:09):
Over the ears?

Speaker 4 (44:12):
Yes? So my favorite story of all time from since
I was a child is I mean, it's not particularly spooky,
but I do think it's fantastic. Is the story of
Jeff the Mongoose. Oh yeah, And I don't know if
you guys have covered.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
It on your path. It's just it's brilliant, honestly.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
One of my favorite stories, and mostly because it was
taken so seriously at the time. Yeah, and everyone just
sort of neatly sidelined the fact that Voyary the Daughter
was a really good ventriloquist.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
That's probably not connected that that's.

Speaker 4 (44:49):
Probably not important information at all. No, no, no, should
we investigate that?

Speaker 2 (44:53):
No, no, no, no no no, it's fine.

Speaker 4 (44:56):
I just and I loved how because I think it
was nandor Fodor that went and investigated it. He was like,
this is the most important case of our time, and
then he went back and was like, actually it's probably not.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Yeah, there wasn't a lot to do back then.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
I think I think everyone was a bit bored.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
It seems like there was a lot of stories back
then of like we did want in America about a
house haunting that would have been around I think it
was around like maybe a little bit after Western times,
but it was the same kind of thing where it
was like a kid seemed to be making the most noise.
I can't even remember it now, it was that long
ago since we did it, But basically it seems like
back then there was a certain window where if a

(45:36):
kid was maybe in a talent of that ventriloquism expression
in some way, shape or form, they kind of did
it as a maybe an attraction, maybe to get people.

Speaker 6 (45:44):
To go to the house.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
I think back then there was now is the time
to dance and lip sync to get money. It's for
or fifteen minutes, whereas back then was to like move
into a house where brutal murders had happened in Amityville
and they might make movies.

Speaker 6 (46:00):
And give you some royalties you know what.

Speaker 4 (46:02):
That was set for life.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Yeah, I would, I would definitely do that.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
Yeah, it's it's a funny actually speaking of that, all
those type stories and just touching on the films again,
did you see Malignant, arguably the best movie of a generation.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
No, I don't think I have seen it.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
You know, I'll say nothing, right, I do this all
the time.

Speaker 4 (46:25):
I spent about ten years of my life saying I
hadn't seen Sinister, and then every time I watched it,
I was like, oh, no, I have seen this, but
literally I've seen it about five times because I was like,
I've never never seen this, I've never heard of it.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
And then Malignant is Malignant is a movie where James
One who made the conjuring and all the rest of it.
It's a movie that starts off like a really dodgy
spooky movie and there's all the tropes of a spooky movie,
and the last half hour elevates it to a status
of it's so bad and I'm not sure if they

(46:56):
did it as a joke knowingly, but it's it's it
deserves to be watched, in my opinion, maybe not more
so than Priscilla President.

Speaker 6 (47:06):
I found at the Lodge.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
The lodge, yeah, I think I have seen I think
the lodge.

Speaker 5 (47:11):
And your one's name, well your on the actresses then
is Riley Kyo and she is Priscilla Presley's.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
I did.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
I watched this, Now there you go.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
I quite enjoyed the Lode, did I kind of?

Speaker 5 (47:29):
I found it. I thought it was going up to
a point and then I wasn't mad on how it
shut out. She can't really, I can't say anymore.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
There's things that I want to argue about. As expected
me to believe.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
That yeah, yeah, and I can't say yeah, it's it's.
It was a tricky one, but.

Speaker 4 (47:48):
It wasn't bad.

Speaker 5 (47:49):
But I just I thought there was going to be
more from that kind of thing. What we will get
to we actually a patron asked this question as well.
They're basically I wanted to know your your stance on
up's and off. But we also have a question here,
what are your thoughts on the recent sort of congressional
hearings on your epis and also just likeice of all's
UFOs in general, what's.

Speaker 6 (48:09):
Your take on them.

Speaker 4 (48:11):
Before we get to that, I've got two other stories
that I think no, as in as in as in
stories that I've covered that I think you guys should
look into because I think you'll find them interesting. The
first one was I think I just call it the
Belfast ghost story. I don't know if you've heard of this,
but I had never heard of it. And then so

(48:31):
a friend of mine, Adams Adam Lynch, Hello, if you're listening,
I'm like the type of podcast he listened to. He's
also a podcaster on a podcast called Weekly Creep. So
there's his shout out and have that messaged me One
day I was like, have you seen this story? And
it was kind of maybe back in the eighties, and
it was a family in Belfast, and I mean they
had this all of a sudden, they had this this

(48:54):
entity in their house and it kicked the live and
fuck out of the da Like I have never read
anything like it, right, never, And initially I was like
I can't cover this, that this is insane. And then
I went on to this forum where people were talking
about it like this had been this had come up
in like a local forum, and so many people were

(49:15):
like I remember this happening. I remember standing outside the
house and seeing shit happening, like I'm friends with the
kids who lived in that house, and I saw things
inside the house. It was mad. When I did the
episode about it, that one of the belt Fast newspapers
ran a story because obviously somebody in the newspaper must
have listened and been like, Aha, this is a great,

(49:36):
easy story. And in the comments people were like, I
remember this happening. I remember being outside the house watching
and waiting. I remember the dad being beaten up. I remember,
like it is wild. It is one of those stories
where you go, this is so unbelievable, but everybody seems
so credible. There's that one, And then I found another

(49:57):
one in like in some random book, I found a
story about a Connecticut poltergeist from like years back, in
the eighteen hundreds maybe. But what would happen is so
the family all left the house to go to church
one day, and when they came back, they thought the
house had been burgled, but it hadn't, and their clothes

(50:17):
had all been turned into like human sized figures. Oh
that were all in like prayer prayer positions in different
positions all around the house.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Oh Lord.

Speaker 4 (50:31):
And there's so much of the story that you're like
I'm like that easily could be one of the kids
in the house, you know, like Ventriloquist Central. But I
cannot understand. There were people who testified that they they
walked around the house, made sure that everything was okay
in the house, left the house locked, the door, went
back in a couple of minutes later, and all of

(50:53):
these weird Dolly figurines would be everywhere again. And it
honestly blew my mind.

Speaker 6 (50:59):
Yeah that sounds mad.

Speaker 5 (51:00):
Yeah, that sounds mad. Yeah, we will absolutely check that
them out. Yeah that sounds like really good episode suggestions.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
Actually, yeah, good good stories. And you asked about UFO.

Speaker 5 (51:12):
UFOs and the sort of you know, there was that
congressional stuff maybe last year. There's been a couple of
people now who have come out and said this and
that about up's UFOs. What's your kind of stance on them?

Speaker 7 (51:23):
I fucking hate UFOs controversial as I am absolutely terrified
of aliens, Like it really scares me, like actually scares me.

Speaker 6 (51:35):
The whole the idea of abduction is it.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
Everything about it et terrified me. When I was a kid,
I was convinced I was going to wake up, and
that little sucker at the end of the I was
terrified by et alien stories. Abduction stories really give me
the heb gbs. And I have a friend who is
a psychotherapist and he came on the podcast one day
and we did a Patreon episode and she was talking

(51:59):
about in abductions and how psychologically, you know, a lot
of it is about medical trauma, which is really interesting,
and often people who report to have been abducted by
aliens have had some sort of medical trauma in their background,
which is really interesting, right, But I was still like, yeah, no, no,
I'm still not okay with this. Like the first of all,

(52:20):
the idea of what was being alone in the universe
is wild, Like there's obviously other things, whatever they are,
you know, in terms of like UAP's UFOs, whatever you
want to call them. I do often think it's military.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:38):
Now I am reading Louis Lewis Gomez. I don't think
Gomez Louis Esper. I see some congressional guy uncovering the truth.
But he has a book called Imminent, and it's like
the history of him working with the Secret Service and the.

Speaker 4 (52:54):
CIA, And is this the fella that brought the alien body?

Speaker 2 (52:57):
This is a fellow that looks like he's in limp biscuits,
but he but he He's like trying to figure out, isn't.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
Yeah, he knows looks like Wesbourne would be an alien,
but no. His book is kind of it's quite good.
It's on It's actually on Spotify if you just want
to do the listen to it.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
But it does.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
I'm like yourself, I'm half convinced this is you know,
Project Bluebeam or whatever where they're trying to like set
up something. I don't really believe it, but I'm sort
of I'm like, is that more plausible than aliens that
all of a sudden the powers that be are like.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Oh, yeah, by the way, there's a load.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
Of mad stuff we've known for like decades and they're
all coming and maybe it's China, but maybe it's aliens,
but sure, who knows? Really yeah, And I'm kind of
half going is this just is there is there some
sort of mind I don't know, pat they're trying to
get us in?

Speaker 4 (53:56):
And I mean back in the seventies and eighties, you know,
when when people were seeing UFOs and whatever, the government
were like, yes, aliens absolutely, because obviously they had all
this military tech that they didn't want people to know about,
and they were like, Russia can't know. So if we
say it's aliens, then brilliant. But then sometimes I listen

(54:17):
to stuff about even Roswell, and I'm like, that's fucking weird, though,
isn't it.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Yeah, well, especially when it's like weather balloon or swamp
gas and that's every possible alien sighting for three decades,
and then now they're just like on, oh, there's loads
of mad stuff that can do right, ankle maneuvers that
would kill a man and stuff that's, yeah, it's mad
to see the change in it. And in this he's
talking about like materials that are massively malleable and they

(54:45):
change shape, and there's people that call parcels that you know,
are left there for us to find. And that was
what Roswell was, and there's mad stuff in it.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
But again, I'm someone who believes in metaphysical big books.
So am I a reliable source?

Speaker 6 (55:00):
Not?

Speaker 3 (55:00):
Well.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
I always find it really interesting and hilarious that when
you when you look into these stories, particularly about alien
you know, life forms and whatever, and people are like,
I've got all this evidence that I collected on my ranch,
and and i lost in particularly skin walk would I
would ranch? But you know you're like, so you had

(55:26):
all of this evidence and you there was one I
read the other day where that you but the person
was like, I had all this evidence and I posted
it to America. You had alien evidence, evidence that you
believed was of alien like life form technology whatever, and
you sent it via royal mail like yeah, it over.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Yeah, Like you can't even get alcohol across.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
Like that's mad. It just blows my mind. And I
I did have a friend though one day that's and
this has always stuck at me, and he said to me,
we were talking about aliens, right, and he was like, you,
but what have you ever thought that maybe aliens specifically
target people who are on the fringes of society so

(56:13):
nobody will ever believe them. And I was like, shut up,
that's the worst thing I've ever heard.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Don't ever speak to me again.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
The more it's like anything like we're talking about, you know,
metaphysical cryptis and all that, the more you look into it,
the more you start reading stuff, the more weird. It's
like the last season, the last you're just like they're
just really grabbing straws now because people are saying.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
I've read that aliens can't understand we.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
Have souls, so they made us and gave us soul
so they can take our souls later and do just
like fire basically like a video game. Yeah, Alien and
Farm teaming up with them on that one.

Speaker 6 (56:55):
Pretty pretty cool, pretty good.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
Yes, absolutely like it's and it's kind of like it's
sort of whatever you're having yourself, and that's part of
the fun of ghosts andids and all this stuff. You
can kind of just shoot off the hip and it's
there's not a huge amount of like issues because it
doesn't really matter whether Bigfoot's real or not.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
At the end of the day, we're all paying the taxes.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
It's not gonna you know, like if we find a
gorilla in a forest, Severn will be like ash, you're looky.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
I suppose there was bound to be one, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
But but.

Speaker 6 (57:27):
Fun with it.

Speaker 4 (57:27):
We'll look like right dickheads if it comes out the
aliens have been sold Farm and all along, I'm.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Telling you that's what I'll say. I'll be like I
warned them coming up to Halloween there twenty four, I
was saying it.

Speaker 5 (57:40):
So what we'll do is our listeners don't realize it.
Let's fill them in. We're about to do a sort
of a grindhouse double feature an over the real life
stories to record now very shortly. So what we will
say before we get out of here. Is there anything
that you would like to plug, anything like the south
Ower listeners.

Speaker 4 (57:58):
Yes. So I have a podcast, Real Life ghost Stories,
where I tell real life ghost stories, which is always
a surprise to people. I do sometimes do cryptid stories
and alien stories, and I do three episodes a week,
so two listener stories to two episodes that are just
dedicated to listener stories, and one that is a deep
dive into a paranormal case claim famous story and yeah,

(58:23):
if that sounds like it's up your street, come on
over and listen. I also do theater stuff, so yeah,
if you follow me on Real Life ghost Stories on Instagram,
that's where I post everything that I'm doing.

Speaker 6 (58:34):
Cool.

Speaker 5 (58:34):
Yeah, and as well, there's a lot we were discussing
before we started recording. There's actually a lot of shared content.

Speaker 6 (58:40):
Saw.

Speaker 5 (58:41):
I think it's always cool to see other people's perspectives
on the things that we talk about. So you're getting
some of the similar stories, but with your opinion and
your take on them, which I think is always quite
cool too. So there's definitely a lot of stuff for
our listeners there to check out, so go on and
give it a spin. We have been on are falls.

Speaker 4 (59:00):
This has been real life goes stories, and we are
over and out.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
Uh,
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