February 10, 2025 • 51 mins
A ghost ship, also known as a phantom ship, is a vessel with no living crew aboard; it may be a fictional ghostly vessel, such as the Flying Dutchman, or a physical derelict found adrift with its crew missing or dead, like the Mary Celeste.
The term is sometimes used for ships that have been decommissioned but not yet scrapped, as well as drifting boats that have been found after breaking loose of their ropes and being carried away by the wind or the waves.
More recently, ships which travel with their mandated Automatic identification system turned off to avoid detection and monitoring, have also been referred to as ghost ships.
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The term is sometimes used for ships that have been decommissioned but not yet scrapped, as well as drifting boats that have been found after breaking loose of their ropes and being carried away by the wind or the waves.
More recently, ships which travel with their mandated Automatic identification system turned off to avoid detection and monitoring, have also been referred to as ghost ships.
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I don't anything in the first two episodes we recorded
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even though she is much smaller than me and does
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Speaker 1 (02:00):
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Speaker 2 (02:08):
Right today we are talking about ghost chips. You've heard
about regular ships, the sten A line, Titanic ghost ships,
Lusitania ghost ships, name that Pinta Santa Maria. This is
all them except ghostly. Yeah, imagine that mostly property.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
These are, and we do we cover a little bit
of a span here. There's some that are kind of
definitely historically ghost chips. There's some that are sort of like, well,
this is more of a this is more of a
zombie shop zombie ship there, and then it's kind of
like like a folk laric kind of an empty vessel
that would spell doom upon you, and then some of
them are kind of ones that they're not really sure
(02:49):
that ever existed. The notes from this were generally taken
from History Extra, so that's where we get into the
Pstory Extra. But it's a very very simple episode. It
just it gives you. It tells you this is what
a ghost chip is, and then it goes, here's seven
examples of the ghost ship. And then the episode says,
that's all for this Clair and concise. What will next
week be? I don't even know. I nearly did an episode.
(03:15):
I was listening I think I talked about this. I
was listened to like dog Man and talk about that,
but like there's an episode about death squads in Central America,
no no killing people as part of like right wing
murder stuff civil war, and then all the dog Men
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following him and just eating the people, and I was like,
this is such a cool episode. It was so good,
such a good episode, and I wanted to do something
on like something like that, but there was no way
to find things you could actually make an episode out
of unless I ring the Man and be like, tell
that story again, just tell that story again, will you?
I might start making I think next time make something
up Tommy pretty good.
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Speaker 1 (04:59):
They don't transl listens not at all.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Gone viral is literally inconsequential.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
No, it doesn't matter anymore back in the day, big deal.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
No, it doesn't matter. It actually doesn't do anything. It
literally doesn't do it. Like I I sometimes wonder, I'm
like why, Like, so you get like when you when
when a clip like that pops off, you get a
lot of followers and stuff, right, but like they don't
interact with anything. So it's like, why do you even follow?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Probably have loads of things.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
It's like, yeah, like what do you Why are some
some people follow?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Some people use the toilet and they face the cistern
when they they're just not using.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
The people that follow, they're just not using correctly. It's like,
why do you want to follow? The Right's like, just don't.
It's strange people don't.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
My dad once he gave me very good advice. He said,
aiman you can only trust me, your mother and Anna.
Everyone else is stupid and weird. And he was right,
he was forgotten. It was Yeah, I think he actually
said it to my sister, to be fair, paraphrasing, somewhat
(06:02):
everyone else is stupid and weird. Yeah, no, ex actutely right,
and everyone should take that same energy. There's your family
is your nique to you? Like, yeah, that word. It's
why everyone thinks everyone else's family is fucking weird and
why in laws are like a weird thing because we're like,
what the fuck? But your significant other looks at your
(06:22):
family ghost working maybiax stup and weird.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Right, let's get into goalships. Actually first, if you have
any goalship sighting, scripted encounters, or spooky experiences and you
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Speaker 2 (06:47):
Right, so, emen a ghost ship, you say, why don't
you fill me in a little bit? Tell us a
bit about an intro about these little fucking goalships and
the ships.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Here picture there, there's a kind of an ethereal ghost
chip in the background. A few dolphins. I put the
dolphins in there, like them Microsoft a ghost ship. They're
also known as phantom shifts. It's a vessel with no
living crew on board, so that's kind of fun you
find them. You call them phantom shifts. Shifts I've had
(07:18):
Have you ever had a phantom shift? Yeah, probably, just
like when you wake up sometimes your slobbron on your pillow.
I'd call that a bit of a phantom shift. It
is so a vessel with no living crew on board,
which is very interesting. It may be a fictional ghostly
vessel and we get into this a little bit later,
like the flying Dutchman, or a physical derelict found a
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drift with its crew missing or dead, like the Mary Celeste.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Flying Dutchman. Of course, not to be confused with the
Dutch rudder.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
No, that's it's a way to beat your friends off
without being gay.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah, so you grab their their arm therefore arm, Yeah,
and you manipulated in a sense.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
When but everyone does it. It's kind of like the
cogs of a clock and as it rotates.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
But it's not because you don't touch Mickey's. You don't
have hand on Mickey.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Is it they move you touch your owney?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
I think I think you touch your own and they
manipulate your forearm and your elbow.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
That doesn't sound great, man, No, I know, it just doesn't.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I think great Dutch oven. It might be wrong.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Why is it the Dutch? Because I thought it would
be that like sort of they would be on and
then so everyone's moving everyone because like, like I.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Didn't think there was a group activity. I might be
totally wrong. I thought was like the Dutch.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I mean they are horny people, and I think that's
where a lot of this comes from. The Dutch Oven again,
that's kind of.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
More of assault.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
The Dutch that's horrible. The Flying Dutchman. Then the Flying Dutchman.
I think it's a it's a burger with no bun,
so it's like just the meat and oh stuff. Yeah,
I didn't know that, I think, so I could be
wrong with that. The term is sometimes used for ships
that have been decommissioned but are not yet scrapped, as
well as drifting boats that have been found after breaking
(09:14):
loose of their ropes and being carried away by the
wind and the waves. Now, in a more recent sort
of terminology, the ships which travel with their mandated automatic
identification system turned off to avoid detection. Gone like the
kind of they're more pirates. But yeah, ghosts like ghosts,
so they're not shown up on the raidar. So we
(09:36):
have a selection of some ghost ships we are going
to talk about, the Mary Celeste, the SS bass Shimo,
the Flying Dutchman, the m v JOA, Carol, a deering
Orang Madan and cian Gan saying excuse me, and as
I said, these notes came from history extra point on,
so shouts out to did.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
What's your favorite costs? Top five ghosts? Top three ghosts.
The lady that comes from the television.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
In Samara from the ring ring name Smara. I think
it might have just been.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Smara probably Samara is pretty good.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Other ghosts the ghost and Scary movie too. That's kind
of funny. I believe Marilyn Wayne's as sex her and
she had the bag on her head. If you recall that,
that's pretty good. Other ghosts that are good.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Casper Friendly ghost number one was.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
A nice ghost. Friendly. Yeah, he was Friendly number one.
I was going to say the Blair Witch, but she's
more of.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
A witch's ghost project then the Witch, the Blair Blair
the ghost project.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah, who else is a good? But was he a ghost?
He was a polter geist something that's no. Older guys
be a different entities all together. Yeah, Jesus, And I
mean you think, what are you talking about? Five years,
half a decade to do pot a ghost? Polder Geist
isn't a ghost. I don't believe it just knocks on
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the wall. It's a presence, but it's not a ghost.
It's a polder geist the boulder. What the polar geist
mean again, sort of strabag armon for ghost. I don't know.
I don't know what I believe you, so I'm going
to actually look this up. You remember when we did
the the Fella with the Eyes of the Peeper and
he was a flicker flicker geist. Oh yeah, they see,
(11:37):
but he's not technically a ghost. Oh yeah, so it
is a ghost.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
It is what's the main polder ghost polar German folklore
or ghost ghost ghost like a polar geist is a
type of ghost, not a ghost.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
It was like a sub section. That's the type of
a ghost. Is like a ghost like a ghostlder, guys,
we all know that everyone around the world.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
No, yeah, I could I forget. Slimer Slimer is probably
the best slimers. Slimer movie, Slimer cartoon, Slimer.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Movie, Slimer movie. Movie Slimmer was a lot more difficult.
Slimmer was a friend, whereas movie Slimer wasn't. He wasn't
a friend. I found him in the library. I believe
it's a malevolent. Yeah, yeah, yeah, male voland but slimer
and the TV show Lovely Yeah. I think we're becoming unhinged.
(12:42):
The Mary Sledge. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
The most famous ghost ship of them all has to
be the Mary Clay. Having left New York in early
eighteen seventy two bound for Italy, the marchant brigantine was
spotted drifting alone in the Atlantic Ocean on the fifth
of December. The abandoned ship was found by the Canadian
brig the de Gracia off the Azars, but there was
(13:06):
no trace of Captain and Benjamin Briggs, his wife, their
two year old daughter, or their small crew of seven.
While the cargo and crew's personal belongings were undisturbed, the
sales had only partially been set, a log entry had
not been made in the last ten days, and a
lifeboat was missing. What's more, although there was water in
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the hold, the Mary Celeste had no risk of sinking.
So what caused brigs and the crew to desert to
see worthy ship and what were their fates? Well, there
are many theories, despite lack of evidence, somewhere suspicious of mutiny, piracy,
or an elaborate fraud. In the year since natural phenomena
(13:52):
like water spouts, essentially a sea tornado. Sometimes the viatins
will send them up as well, and I think a
hydrous spout with that the voith and yeah, how's that
from fine fantasy or fairs that the gas is leaking
from the alcohol in the hold could have exploded. They
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were mooted, So it wasn't them and it wasn't the tornadoes. Well,
no conclusive explanation has ever been uncovered. The leading hypothosis
suggest that Briggs believed the ship to be sinking incorrectly.
It was taking on water and one of the pumps
was broken, which may have led the crew to carry
out a hasty and premature evacuation. Ultimately, the reason for
(14:37):
the Mary Celeste's abandonment and remains a mystery.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
We don't know what happened to us and the fate
of its crew they don't know either. So it's like,
can you imagine that you thought the ship was sinking?
So what does the ten people leave or just drown?
Well they might have. They're missing a lifeboat. Well that's it,
so they did, but they never found the crew.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
But that could mean many things, especially if you fraud. Well,
I could mean that just turned up somewhere and just
assumed new identities.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, I suppose I forget that you could do that
back then, Like anyone could find Captain Briggs on Facebook.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Not like if Captain Briggs rocked up to like Ireland, Like,
no one's going along with Captain Briggs, like evening, not Captain.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Briggs at all. What's that fine slack ale that you
were selling? You know it would be pretty good?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
No, but yeah, like, I mean, there's an infinite number
of reasons it would be very strange all that they
would have abandoned it without leaving something in the log mmm,
like even just like hair lads were leieving the ship
if anyone finds that.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah, no, you're right too. There's a there's a friend
of mine. He was telling me about some stories about pirates,
and he was telling me this really cool one where
like it was a real sort of like wild West
of the seas. So there was one story where he
said a fellow robbed a boat and went out by
himself in kind of a rowboat to this big ship
and just pretended he was part of a pirate crew.
(16:01):
And he said, listen as they sent me first. But
they basically said if you don't jump off this ship now,
like we're gonna come on board here and kill everybody, right,
so we're giving you a chance. Everyone jumped off and
then he just took the ship off himself.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Like pirates. Pretty sick good neck on him. Is he Smalian?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
He was Captain Phillips, I think of his name. No,
this fellow wouldn't have been Somalian. This was like Jack Sparole. Yeah,
this is like more rum drink and kind of pirates.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Right, that's very What would have been beguiling is that
story where I suppose you did beguile them?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
It would have beguiled them smart, well, ballsy, high risk.
I'm actually part of this group in this boat. Yeah,
so yeah, pretty good, pretty good. But with that we
move on to the s s. Couldn't tell you the
Arctic Circle. This is kind of cool one. This this
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is a story that makes when you listen back to it,
you go, oh, yeah, that makes sense. Did you see
season one of The Terror? No, you dumb, but no,
it's a it's a story brought this to mine. So
the story of it is like it's a similar thing.
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Ships that were trying to find merchant lines would get
stuck in the ice caps and in the terror this
sort of weird polar bear comes after them, which is
pretty cool. But this is a story like that without
a weird polar bear. So for ten years from nineteen
twenty one, when I came under the ownership of the
Hudson Bay Company, the cargo ship SS BEMO traversed the
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fraud northern waters of the Arctic Circle or the Arctic.
How would you say that Arctic? Arctic? Yeah? When I
first saw the thing, it was a Arctic. No they did.
They were doing a lot on TV three, and it
was like Curt Russell's in the Arctic Circle, and I
was like, what the fuck? I never heard it said Arctic.
It's obviously spelt that way. I'd say art the Arctic.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah, no, but Arctic, I would say Arctic as well,
probably interest you know what.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I mean, because when Iceman does his snowball attack in excellent,
his Arctic attack, artic attack, or maybe that's just what
I hear. Maybe says Arctic attack, Arctic attack pro tongue hand. Yeah.
So they're carrying furs and other goods to and from
trading posts on Canada's North coast. In October nineteen thirty one,
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it became trapped in pack ice off the coast of Alaska,
so this would have been what happened to the poor
the Terror as well, Completely stuck and with no prospect
of breaking free. Before the ice crusted the ship, All
but the skeleton crew of fifteen were evacuated by plane,
so the men who stayed hoped to wade out the
winter by living in a wooden shelter near the stricken Betamo.
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But after bunkering down for several days during a blizzard,
they emerged to find the ship had disappeared. Goodness, so
they assumed it had sunk, but in fact the Bejamo
remained afloat and had broken free of the ice after all.
After being corrected by seal hunters who had spotted it
floating free, the sailors tracked it down, retrieved some of
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its cargo, and then abandoned it once more. Over the
next few decades, the Bejamo was spotted numerous times in
Arctic waters. Attempts were made to board or salvage the vessel,
but the ice and weather conditions meant it always eluded capture.
The last confirmed sighting get this it was nineteen sixty nine.
That's cool, isn't it Basically basically so they that there
(19:38):
have been sporadic reported sighting since then as well, So
this is almost like the perfect cryptid boat, do you
know what I mean? That's cool. Yeah, I mean you
would imagine like it's it must be a really impressively
bilchipped because it's over one hundred years old now, which
is kind of wild, but it could.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, they get preserved for whatever reason. I mean, well,
especially the stuff under the water anyway at least, but
that's probably down to the bed being like I don't
know fairly when.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
It's just like it just grows coral and stuff like
that on the ships, you know, and they're like, like
it gets destroyed if you like, so there's not much more.
It's not going to evaporate or be eroded.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Like it makes sense to me that people want to
go down and see the Titanic, but also doesn't like, yeah,
I would love.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
To see it in person.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I'm sure like it looks cool like some of the
funs you see where you see like the original like
railings and stuff, and like you see that down there
and you're like, oh wow, that's.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Cool, Like but it would be cool. Yeah, it's so
fucking scary. Like that's the thing about under the ocean,
Like it's really interesting, Like having done a few dives
and stuff like that, it is really cool. It's also
pretty boring, yeah, because there's not that much going on
under the ocean now. A lot of people who love
diving eminently disagree with me, and that's fine. Al for example,
(21:02):
he's a big diving diving boy. But yeah, yeah, but yeah,
it's it's a like that be think it wouldn't it
be great to just be able to go to these
certain points? And in fact, in Ireland there's riddled witch
ship Wrex around Ireland. Yeah, if you go down to Tremoor,
(21:25):
I don't think people really do any dives out there,
but there's loads of there's loads of ruined ships in
between the metal Man and stuff. Yeah, oh god ya
pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yeah, I mean there would be loads of something chips
all around that way.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
And you know what they say, loose lips ships.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yeah, you'd wonder like I'd wonder like we had I
think Mike Greig Greig grand Out had three Sconers, which
is a lot, like they're pretty big boats. Yeah, the
sky Sconners decent, Like you'd wonder, like what they ever
did with them after that they commissioned them, did they
he was part of the timber in other like, you'd.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Wonder imagine it's kind of like breaking down.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yeah, it would have been up cycled in some form. Interesting.
So we're on two leo flying Dutchmen. Unlike the real
vessels on this list, this ship is a myth, a
ghoulish worship, unable to make port, so doomed to sail
the oceans for eternity, and that the scene as important
of disaster. So it's like, it's like, aren't sirens like that? Yeah,
(22:31):
like the marmaids. Some of the evil marmaids are known
as like sirens.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Odysseus he had to tie himself up to the ship's
masts and he's like, I'm so randy, please, but the
crew didn't let him get taken down.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Taking understand, are making a movie best Christopher Nolan is made.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah. No, I don't know if it's like retailing or
what it is like, but I'm hoping it's not a
modern retailing the old folk erecting homers the other see,
I have an original, an original. I doo. Yeah, someone
bought me a really nice copy of that for my
twenty first But.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Yeah, I have a a somewhere. Yeah, hard to read.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Oh yes, I'd rather just watch Christopher Nolan. Yeah, and
hopeful that it's better than Tenant. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Tenn Rather, first mentioned in literature in the seventeen hundreds,
suppose the sightings of the Flying dutch Man, often through
thick veils of mist and fog, have been reported for centuries.
The future George the Fifth and his brother Prince Albert
Victor apparently spotted this ship off the court of Australia
in eighteen eighty one, yet no evidence exists that this
boat was ever real. Instead, it occupies a more archetypal
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place in the lore of naval history. The Flying Dutchman
has inspired poems and stories, an opera by Wagner, and,
more recently, the Terrifying Ship captained by Davy Jones and
the Pirates of the Caribbean movies. I've never seen one
of them, Junes Squid.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I saw the first one. I saw the first one
in the cinema. I talked with you. You sure, yeah,
your cousin he loved being a sailor. Memory he went
through that sailor phase and he went through an Ironman face.
The sailor phase seemed to have stuck because I think
they drink more rum and Tony Star does have problem. Yeah,
(24:17):
so I think. No, I didn't, I didn't go well,
I definitely went to the cinema to see it with. Yeah,
it's the first movie. Is good fun and you know
I've gone on the Pirates of the Caribbean ride on Disneyland. Yeah,
it's good fun. Take a lot of artistic license with
the movie Dinosaurs. There was a dinosaur, No, there wasn't.
(24:42):
It's pretty cool though. It's it's fun. You're going through
the water and all the pirates are singing and dancing
and yeah. Yeah. At the end of it, Jack Sparrows
there the car. Good evening, goods. Why my bed number? Yeah, yeah,
bitch wild. I can't imagine being so AnGR agreed that
I would ship on another human's bed.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
I'd love to be that angry, just it's.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
A weird way to express anger as well.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Imagine imagine someone just dropped Trio in your sitting room
and just shot on the floor.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
It's funny, like I would I would laugh like the
neck of it like, Yeah, I think as well. It's
a very vulnerable position to take if there's any fear
of someone showing up there. Imagine trying to take a
ship out of anger that someone just catch technic kicks
in your city ars. Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't like to
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get kicked in my arse while I was trying to
take a ship. To be fair, I want and onto
the Envy ja. Few maritime mysteries are as perplexing as
that of the Envy jo Ea, a luxury yacht turned
commercial vessel that disappeared in the South Pacific in nineteen
fifty five. It had set sail from Samoa on the
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third of October, which is my birthday, Sacred Day. Samoa
Joe just walk away from lads, jumping off the top rope,
sick and class with twenty five passengers and crew aboard,
bound for the Takeuilau Islands just over three hundred miles away,
but it never reached its destination Crypt Crypt Five and
(26:30):
a half weeks later, the Joita was discovered more than
six hundred miles off course, still afloat yet partially submerged.
All twenty five people were missing, along with four tons
of cargo. The ship's log book and navigational equipment. Adding
to the confusion, the radio had been tuned to the
International Distress signal, but no SOS call had ever been received.
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The ensuing investigation brought no clear answers to what befell
the ship. Since then, theories have ranged from pirate see
botched abandonment after mechanical failure, kidnapping by Soviet submarines, and
murder by Japanese fishing fleet. I'll tell you what if
they did the envy joid it the same way they
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do the dolphins out in the coat, And yeah, that's
pretty pretty fucking wild. Do you know what this brings
to mind? Someday they're just going to find Connor McGregor's
empty yacht just drift in the sea somewhere, only remnants
of white powder that scattered along along the ship. That'd
be kind of a good end to his career, just
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mysteriously disappeared and then coming back at the challenging that's
an interesting one. That's cool, And they're, like I said,
all these stories interesting, you know, bewitching. Would it be.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Interested at all that when the oldestasine trades that in
Japan coming out?
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Yeah, probably i'd like to play as yet might I
think I might suck it in a bit. A big
giant black samurai. He's so cool. Like I watched the
anime of Yaske, which was class right, but the anime
had like fucking dragon spirits. But apparently I saw pictures them.
Apparently it was like an emperor. He was brought in
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as a slave or something and the emperor was like whoa,
who the fuck's that guy? And just he served the emperor.
The emperor made him a samurai and he was like, like,
imagine a dude from Africa in Japan at the time.
He was just towering above anyone. He was probably a
complete specimen. And I'd say absolutely.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Room lads class it's mad like hilarity as well, Like
there's there's records the reckon of like Egyptian lads turned
up in Ireland, Like.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Yeah, yeah, people were what were they given out that
it wasn't like more of a Japanese guy who was
the samurai there?
Speaker 2 (28:53):
But like that's were they were given out because they
thought it was fictional walk cast but it was actually
so they were like yeah, wow, after inserting a black
guy into a game about samurais.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
What the fuck. No, it's actually a historical thing. Yeah, no, yeah,
and like that from what I again, I watched the
anime so on that like a historian about it. But
he seemed like a pretty cool dude.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
The lore is class like back on the ghost ships,
the Carol Air Dearing. In late January nineteen twenty one,
the carl Air Dearing five master schooner, built for speed
and capacity in the post First World warshiping boom was
spotted off the coast of North Carolina, where Jeff Hardy
is from. It was heading right for Diamond Shawls, the
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so called graveyard of the Atlantic.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yeah, that sounds good, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
The Diamond Shawls or Shoals, I said, Shoals, I.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Would say shows.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
It would take several days before anyone was able to
board this ship, which had indeed run aground on the
notorious Shoals, but the twelve strong crew and lifeboards were missing.
No sign of them has been found. There was damage
to steering equipment, and an earlier communication with the ship
revealed that the anchors had been lost, but the cause
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for desertion has never been ascertained. Could it have collided
with another vessel, or had there been a misjudged mutiny.
The captain had complained of the crew being difficult.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
They always are, they're all super woke. Here's my pronouns.
He was, like, Jesus just turned the rudder. Use my pronouns.
I won't answer to anything. That's probably what happens. That's
probably what happened.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Yeah, that's that's when the walk come off.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
As would say. No, I won't say anything, he said,
even though it will be objectively hilarious to repeat trying
to be funny about trying and be funny, but sometimes
laughing comes to crying, and we're just trying to have
fun here. And I think that the captain should have
used the pronouns of the people that that were his crew. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Other terorries have suggested that Daring was hijacked by a
Prohibition era run runner gang or Russian saboteurs rum runners.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
That's pretty interesting, isn't it. Lads who are just yeah,
so like you're in the middle of just run and run,
and then you're like, fuck it, we're in for the penny,
in for the bound. Let's take on that ship. That's
pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I probably back then would have been a pirate.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yeah, it would have been lass because like.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
You would have been grand doughnut as well. Like it
just would have been like right, that's got a gang
of lads together.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Would have been pretty lame as well, though, because I
would have been more of a highway man.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
I think I would have been hiding in the bushes
a lot of lads and the knocks him on ahead
as they come by with a lot of gold or something.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
I think you would have been more of an isolated
kind of a fellow. I don't think you want to
be around a lot of lads on a boat or
in bushes all day.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Maybe, but back then, you know, turning a profit might
have well, yeah, maybe it's hard to know what are
you really turning.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
You just get like you're just scavenging. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Stick by yourself, stab lads, stab lads, take their take loot.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah, it's hard to know.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Intriguing clue about the ship's fit in marg in April
twenty one, when a message in a bottle washed up,
timing it had been captured by an oil burning boat.
So Not, however, was found to be a hawks by
a local fisherman, but further investigation of the Daring was impossible.
In March, the wreck had been destroyed as part of
efforts to remove hazards, right, so.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
And there was yeah, there was nothing there. But they
said that the Triangle one of the.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Victims that could have been Perma Triangle episodes because like
literally wed two.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Of them and I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
It was that long ago, told so many afterwards, that
many because that was a two part so there was
a lot of like different stuff in that.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, yeah, trying to like wreck my brain, wrack my
brain to go back, but I.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Can't, I actually can't.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
So there was in that episode. If anyone new was
this and I don't want to go back, Like there
was a lot of There was a lot of shit
with that Bermuda.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
It was very interesting.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
It seemed to be more of a shking though, but yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Just it's a pretty large area as well. Yeah, you
know the s s orrang Madan. The tale of the
s s orrang Madan is shrouded in mystery, like every
other tale today, marked by a significant lack of evidence
and conflicting reports. In fact, that's all it might be
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a tale, an urban legend, No ship of that name
has ever appeared on official records or shopping registers. Shipping
shopping register, totally different, totally different thing, dudes ham down.
According to the story, the Dutch ship was passing through
the Strait of Malacca off Indonesia in the nineteen forties
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when it's radio operator sent out a frantic SOS claiming
the officers were dead and that the remainder of the
clue were probably dead too, before transmitting one final chilling message,
I die. Fuck that's pretty sure. That part sorry that
I die just totally disrespected with the verb we shouldn't
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really eat. It's probably between episodes anymore. Like, it's tough work, man,
I'm kind of you put the heating on and fed
meself sweating. My body's reacting. I've had three bugs tea
and I'm just like, dudes, two more fucking bullshit ships
to get Let's just let's just get on with this. Yeah,
it's not fun actually, to be honest, you've had me
(34:19):
here since two o'clock and it's now nearly five hours. Cordle,
I know will be hitting into like, but this is
this is baby stuff with you ready for this? A
rescue ship rushed to the scene, but all that was
found was the Oraangmudan adrift with no sign of life.
The bodies of the crew were strewn everywhere, fixed with
expressions of tar, despite no visible injuries or clear cause
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of death. Before the ship could be investigated further, a
fire reportedly broke out and the rescuers had to get
clear of the ship before it exploded, sending the wreck
into the depths in our water. Theories of world around
the fate of the ora Angmdan as has the question
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of whether it ever truly existed, but regardless, it's quite
a haunting tale of lore.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Now to wrap it up, we have to jian sing
not only as the fate of the Jan Seng's crew unknown,
but the ship's very origins are there too. In our
r to Rather, in two thousand, six, to eighty meter
tanker was spotted from the air drifting off the coast
of Queensland in Australia. It was both abandoned and damaged
beyond use. Where the ship came from, who its crew
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was and what it was doing in that part of
the ocean has never actually been determined. The tanker Borno,
identifying Marx as the Jan Seng, was not reported missing,
the authorities could not track its ownership. It was suspected
that the ship had been used for legal activities such
as drug smuggling or forbidden fishing operations. The Jan Seng
was actually told out to see in scuttled.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
I like that word school, isn't it. Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Still, its sudden appearance and the complete mystery about it
has made a modern symbol of the chilling, a lore
of an old pretty good.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Well, one thing I would say about most of these
is there are all a lot of them. More German
wartimes when there would have been submarines were basically what
you're worrying about.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
There.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
The reason I know that is because I have mentioned
it in the past. But you can find ladies and gentlemen.
An interview from my very very very own great great
grandfather who was aboard the Leinster, which was a ship
that was sank by a German U boat and it
was a huge loss of life. It was it was
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a ship traveling between Dublin, Hare and Wales or maybe
it was going to Liverpool, I don't know. And basically
it was hit by a torpedo and loads of people died.
So and and and his actual story is like he's
talking about pulling be out of the water and ship,
(37:01):
and like I think he mentions like their hair and
his buttons and everything, all this type of fucking grim stuff. Yeah,
but black story short, A lot of this was wartime stuff, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah, it seems like it's based on the on the years,
and as well the technology now would make it sot
of probably be very difficult to lose a ship. You know,
do you think that you have much sailor genetics in you? Yeah, yeah,
you'd be okay with it.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
I feel like there's somewhere in me that feels dying
and water or something.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Well, not learning to swim with certis with that.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
At some point, I feel like I've got in my
DNA something about sinking in a ship or something like that.
Makes sense, Yeah, make that makes sense. But any this
is that this is a misconception, like an idiots such
as yourself would have everyone drowns out the autumn. Brother,
if we're in a ship out with the auccean goes down,
You're dead.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
I'm dead. You you'll just dice lore.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Yeah, well I'm you get the illusion of you to
watch me, yeah, and then you die.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Well worth well worth learning to swim for that. But
that's the crack, Like that is the crack, we're all dad.
As a matter of fact, it might be better than
in the ocean.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Maybe a ship is in the distance and I just
have to keep myself afloat that's possible. And you meanwhile,
I hanging out of my back. We likely now you're right, Yeah, yeah,
the reality is that, especially if you're in a ship
and it starts to think that the probabilities you're gonna
drown inside the ship.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
I mean, don't get me wrong, it's better to know
how to swim, to swim if you're in ship sinking
in the ocean, Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
That's definitely a skill that but you're to your point, Yeah,
you're you're most of the water that people would drown
in that's non ship related you can avoid by not
going into the water, which is again that's a great
strategy to drowning. I'm more likely to drown than you
because I know to swim. That's true.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Actually, so you know, I probably a composer to dine
in the auction because you or because I've I've over
over assessed my ability to swim.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
You see this is the thing. You got to look
at the data latterly, this is the thing you know,
you'd like, you just go Rob can't swim, Sure he'll drown,
but no, actually, when you pay it back, Rob's probability
of drowning probably greatly reduced because he will never put
himself in that situation.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
I missed my window of dying in the aucean.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
When I was a kid.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
I had a couple of close calls and the color
gone either way.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
That was like when he would have been frolicking in
curra clot and things like yeah, yeah, nearly drowned out
and said alands.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
One time where I just kept walking out into the
sea and a.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Few wrenches in your pocket and just you path.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
No, I was probably like, I don't know, it's probably
nine or ten, and I was just I think I
was like, let's see how far I can walk out
into the water.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Can't swim?
Speaker 2 (39:47):
That was great, And so I got out, probably up
to my neck and then got knocked over. So that
could have went either way.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Knocked back the way towards the shore, or knocked towards.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Or just knocked me under. So I just went straight
under and I was like, I'm under water now.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
And you're like, right, I better go back, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Walk back espe like I pushed myself up off the
floor kind of and got back up on back out
and I was like, oh that was got I nearly died.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
That was interesting. But to be fair, Poweller wasn't able
to swim, and she kind of more recently so I.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Did not any board now I do pretty cool. Nearly
died in Splash World as well. That was my other opportunity.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
All nearly died in Splash World.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
To be fair, that was my second opportunity, and both
of my avoided. So I think third times.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Charm when will you be in the water?
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Could fly off arod in the car? You know, then
I'm Drowning'll be more worried into the river about.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Flying off the car. Might be it might be the
bigger issue there. Well it's funny, yeah, because like we'll
be going on the stele line again. Yeah, we will
here unless we decide to take to the air. It's
that bat back, So I mean, could this be? It could?
And I don't know. Magic we'll be listening to that
barry Man a little one. What the audacity gain? Just
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the confidence the name of your first album Class. Yeah,
so you might get a chance then sort of later
on in the year. Yeah, so I'll say you, I'll
bring us both back to Irish waters.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Boats I like, I actually do like boats or spookyter class.
I like stand line, it's fun. I enjoy boats and
a bit of that's wime.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
We blew up that that inflatable and went out to Oh.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
That was actually the third time I already died, so
I think I've actually avoided it actually because I'm a
fucking idiot.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
When I look back at that one. That was.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
When I look back at that one, I'm like, oh, yeah,
that was even the fact.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
That like a lake is so hard to swim in anyway,
like a.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Good would have been there by the time you got
to me, like because I would have went, I would
have been going down, would like Ladius mega out to me,
or by the time you swam out of me, I'd
probably been down at the bottom.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Well, seen as I was the only one who wasn't
stone to the marabone, I would have been the one
tried to get.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
For our listeners who are wondering, one time the last
has bought a really shite inflatable thing and we went
half on it.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Yeah, I think it's still in me Da somewhere.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
And we went we brought it out to the quarry,
which is, you know, basically a body of water rain
water lake, and there's a little island out in the middle.
And so I decided to get in the little paddle
boat and paddle out on your todd and I didn't
know how to swim. But also furthermore, I broke on
or getting onto the island.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
So then I was on the island and I was like,
I have one or together.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Then it's like you might have to now to be fair.
It was more just like an extravagant I will do
that now. They were the all or nothing days. I
don't think I would. I honestly don't think I do that.
I thought youth was on your side, and you were
kind of fearless, and you're really stone. I think all
those things helped.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
But like, because even dragging that up onto that rocky shore,
I was like, this is going to puncture.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
But like we probably we probably were never meant to
make it past twenty three and what I for away
the fates conspired. We just managed to slip through. But
I think nature wanted us gone, and it was just like, OK,
I'm just taking back to that and I'm like, what
the actual fuck was like that Between the two of us,
we've nearly drowned almost a dozen.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Times since then as well, Like a bunch of people
have died in that lake, like literally probably five four.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
A lot of people jumping in, hitting themselves on the
rocks and then yeah, or just people swimming. Man, there's
a couple of people that just swimming. Yeah, well this
is it again. A lot of people get really done
with lakes because there's no oxygen and it's way harder
to tread water, so you're just gas out, especially if
you're not used to swimming. Now you're in the middle
of a lake and you're too tired to get back,
and you're you're not buoyant like you were.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Scary man, even just you're saying that you're like dry.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Yeah, and then didn't they didn't. I don't think people
hit the body the recent there, but it wasn't hitting
the water, was it. I think it was. Yeah, So
that the legs waters are nice and pure up there. Well,
I mean, based on what we're saying now, you reckon
that there's probably ghostly hands to grab your.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
But then again, like I mean, Jesus staff story, I
mean out unaffected by it just sounded so horrible that
plane crash in America.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Did you hear about this? The helicopter crashed into the plane.
Oh yeah, Jesus. And they tried to blame migrants first, migrants,
And there's the whole thing they had. They had reduced
standards to become a pilist, to be more inclusive. Was
I'm pretty sure they just gave people training may not
have had access. I could be wrong, That's what I'm assuming.
(44:41):
So I think it was. There's spinning a lot of garbage.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
As always, but ye saw sad like it was for
the kids that playing affected by it. Yes, it's funny,
like we don't really think about it, but like there
are literally two degrees of separation at most times on
this podcast, there's probably that has been directly affected by it.
Like like, for example, we know someone who knows Joe Rogan,
(45:04):
do you know what I mean? So well, we know
someone who knows someone who knows organ Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
So do you know what I mean? So? Like the
degrees is that you're only you're only probably ever about
and especially now that you're so much more interconnected with
with the internet, you're probably only ever three handshakes away
from anyone in the world.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Look, so yeah, look, I was such a tragedy. They
were literally about the land, which is the worst thing, and.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
They were hit into a helicopter.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
Yeah, and they're at that height as well, where it's like.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Like I just I think that's spooky as well with planes,
is that once they like we saw last time with
the landing that went after the Yeah, it's pretty it's
pretty gross, pretty horrible.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Yeah, they're reckoned though, Like some people were asking to do,
do you think that there would have been alive when
they hit the water, like because they're playing basically I
think now, I think that the information that's most recent
that I have is like that that that it actually
hit the wing and it blew up like the petrol
fuel in the wing and the plane I think might
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have come in half, maybe a lot of points. There's
like probably most people were intact and alive at that moment.
So like then you're you're hoping that's something kind of
knocks them out or they're not really the rapids they
were only about you see, I say only but they
were only about three hundred feet up, like they weren't
crazy high to where it's like it's a ship height
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for anything like that to happen, basically, is what I'm
trying to say.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
So it's just such a tragedy thing to like just
even know.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
It's such a tragedy, like horrible, horrible stuff. But yeah,
we'll leave it there for the Goals ships, I think
actually in general they maybe we'll do like a deep
dive on one of the Goals ships at some point
because yeah, really, because I think for some reason, maybe
I looked into notes at the Mary celestat one point
in time and never got around him or something. Yeah,
(46:58):
because the idea of a Goals ship is a very fascinating.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
It's because the fact that the mysteriously vacated. Yeah, it's
a really cool thing.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
And there's people who like they lived their life being
just fascinated by a sea or by an ocean if
they live near one, and it's like they'll beach homb
every day. They'll find like they're looking for the mystery
and like whatever comes up, whether it be that what's
that ship, you know, that ship that like whale fucking stuff,
Amber just or something. Have you heard of that arist
(47:29):
amber just or something? I remember it's like whale fucking.
It's not well gip, but it's like something that whale
puts off.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
I don't know whether it's.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Fat off a dead whale or something basically a byproduct
of a whale that washes up. It smells really bad,
but it's used in perfumes. Stuff's more mad money, really
mad money. So like people look for that. People also
came for the lego that washed up that time. Do
you ever hear about that?
Speaker 1 (47:56):
Like a ship and with a lot of lego ship and.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
Fred with a lot of lego bursts, and like to
this day there's still loads of like washing.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
You know, sea hash hash. I'm sure there's lots of
cocaine as well. Stuff like that that gets thrown overboard
when they.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
Must be addictive, Like imagine you're walking along a beach
and you find something.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Really cocaine is definitely addictive.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
Like if you find cocaine or hash, like you'd be like, oh,
I'm going to keep home on the beach. But like
even if you found something kind of unusual like message
in a bottle type of shit, or like even like
cool leg or you're like, oh, well.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
I was on Tremore Strand one day and a baby
dolphin had washed up and it was like it was
dead or whatever, and but it was a kind of
a mad things. I'd never seen one. Yeah, it kind
of standing. It was kind of more a bit curious,
but it was very interesting. I think that's it. If
you could fast travel to different parts of the ocean
(48:48):
and like as deep as you want with a light source,
like I'd say, there'd be so many amazing things to see,
Like you ever see when people are in those kelp
forests and like white swimming about and it's just so
majestic looking. You know. There's a guy I mess when
I was diving, and Kerry, and he was telling me
(49:09):
that he was from South Africa and he was like, yeah,
I used to like I go down to the bottom
and I would see like great whites and I'd just
be waiting there for him to go away, like I
couldn't whatever. But diving in Ireland and stuff like that
wouldn't bother me too much. But the idea of diving
where there could be like a tiger shark or a
make or a great white or whatever something a shark
(49:31):
like terrifying.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Then again, you know, like basking sharks, not a mace
bus come up with Yeah, you'd probably freak out, but
at least remember that fell got swallowed by the Yeah,
that could happen.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
I don't. I don't think it would be able to eat.
But ask and sharks are again.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
And they're off the calls by the salty islands. There
you'll find them.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, you find them. And yeah. We went
to West Cork and we did like a it was
like a boat tour to try and find whales and
bot whales and stuff, and we saw a load of
dolphins that like swimming in and out so the front
of the boat they would like jump up, down and
swim with. I have some really nice, nice videos of it.
But it's amazing because you see something like that on
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a TV show and you're like, oh, that's cool. When
you see it in real life, there is a real
sense of gravitas about it, like it's really it's really cool.
And I think there is something about like we've seen
almost everything through a screen, but when you're there, you're
and it just has this real sort of sense of scale.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
I'm rig and we missed it when we're in Iceland.
But we were going to go well watching an ice,
Yeah we missed.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
The only thing with the whales is that they're very
hard to see because they don't really breach, so you
usually like if you see anything. But i'll tell you
what we do over the song. We go on a
trip to West Cork and we'll go out there.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
It's like, I think we can find like not to
go top, but I think you can probably get basket sharks.
Well you can't get the off.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
No, you definitely can't. The thing is, so the thing
with the whales and the sharks is that dolphins are
much more interactive with the the rest of them. They
booked out or if you do see him, it's you know,
it's only like a fin. You don't get a really
good look at them, you know. But the dolphins are
like class. Like we saw a baby dolphin and a
mother dolphin both just breach at the same time. And
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the tiny little fin in the big fin and it
was like they were both on a call. Really it's
and yeah, it's it's a it's a cool No orl
Paolo was sick. Yeah, she wasn't good. She wouldn't make
a good sailor.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Like you along class right to leave it there, and
then Fox, I've been robbed. I aiming ghostly ships over
and out.
A crypt and this is a script. I want a
quick against my enemies. Yeah, you see, you wanted to say,
and then all little raise you, but apple get you from.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
The Hello everyone, what is up?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I am Rob.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I'm naming it is monsterful.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Brother, very good brother.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Of course, plenty of episodes for that we've done.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Yeah, this is a lot. This could be. I'm not
I don't even think it's going to be low energy.
I don't anything in the first two episodes we recorded
have primed us manic energy, chaotic manic energy.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Bringing the manic energy is on the back this lovely Monday.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
What to be fair, this is their third Moga coffee,
so that's probably Hi caffeine.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I've had a Shepherds buying, two snackbars.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
A little wedge of Shepherd's pie tips. I did have
a bag of burger before I came out here as well.
I thought that would be me launch bar burger and.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
A sausage health I four pancakes.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
After this, I'm gonna have maybe, let's say, I'll have
about twelve twelve pieces of sushi pretty good and uh,
I have a couple of glasses of wine. We have
a cats curry. I won't have a cat carry. I
don't like a I do like a cats carry. I'm
a big fan of I love sushi. I'll tell you
(01:34):
what's nice. The bew BONSA well, I'm well, you know,
I think I'm going to get two. Get two sushi
rolls and two bel bs. I'll give one bewbon to
my present wife and we'll will will separate the sushi equally,
even though she is much smaller than me and does
not require as much nutrition. But I will share evenly,
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even the wine.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Share even Well, that's that fortify.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, I'll help you go to sleep as well. Panic.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Right today we are talking about ghost chips. You've heard
about regular ships, the sten A line, Titanic ghost ships,
Lusitania ghost ships, name that Pinta Santa Maria. This is
all them except ghostly. Yeah, imagine that mostly property.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
These are, and we do we cover a little bit
of a span here. There's some that are kind of
definitely historically ghost chips. There's some that are sort of like, well,
this is more of a this is more of a
zombie shop zombie ship there, and then it's kind of
like like a folk laric kind of an empty vessel
that would spell doom upon you, and then some of
them are kind of ones that they're not really sure
(02:49):
that ever existed. The notes from this were generally taken
from History Extra, so that's where we get into the
Pstory Extra. But it's a very very simple episode. It
just it gives you. It tells you this is what
a ghost chip is, and then it goes, here's seven
examples of the ghost ship. And then the episode says,
that's all for this Clair and concise. What will next
week be? I don't even know. I nearly did an episode.
(03:15):
I was listening I think I talked about this. I
was listened to like dog Man and talk about that,
but like there's an episode about death squads in Central America,
no no killing people as part of like right wing
murder stuff civil war, and then all the dog Men
(03:35):
following him and just eating the people, and I was like,
this is such a cool episode. It was so good,
such a good episode, and I wanted to do something
on like something like that, but there was no way
to find things you could actually make an episode out
of unless I ring the Man and be like, tell
that story again, just tell that story again, will you?
I might start making I think next time make something
up Tommy pretty good.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
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They will do that.
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Quick reminder we're talking about dog Man. Check out our
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that went viral. Sheme's not mine lol, but yeah, two
hundred thousand heads for that now something like that. Yeah,
but loads of comments.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
They don't transl listens not at all.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Gone viral is literally inconsequential.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
No, it doesn't matter anymore back in the day, big deal.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
No, it doesn't matter. It actually doesn't do anything. It
literally doesn't do it. Like I I sometimes wonder, I'm
like why, Like, so you get like when you when
when a clip like that pops off, you get a
lot of followers and stuff, right, but like they don't
interact with anything. So it's like, why do you even follow?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Probably have loads of things.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
It's like, yeah, like what do you Why are some
some people follow?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Some people use the toilet and they face the cistern
when they they're just not using.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
The people that follow, they're just not using correctly. It's like,
why do you want to follow? The Right's like, just don't.
It's strange people don't.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
My dad once he gave me very good advice. He said,
aiman you can only trust me, your mother and Anna.
Everyone else is stupid and weird. And he was right,
he was forgotten. It was Yeah, I think he actually
said it to my sister, to be fair, paraphrasing, somewhat
(06:02):
everyone else is stupid and weird. Yeah, no, ex actutely right,
and everyone should take that same energy. There's your family
is your nique to you? Like, yeah, that word. It's
why everyone thinks everyone else's family is fucking weird and
why in laws are like a weird thing because we're like,
what the fuck? But your significant other looks at your
(06:22):
family ghost working maybiax stup and weird.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Right, let's get into goalships. Actually first, if you have
any goalship sighting, scripted encounters, or spooky experiences and you
want them featured on our very own mini fos podcast
M and.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Word of Monster Firs podcast at gmail dot com, not
monsteril dot com. Monsters Podcasts podcast at gmail dot com.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Right, so, emen a ghost ship, you say, why don't
you fill me in a little bit? Tell us a
bit about an intro about these little fucking goalships and
the ships.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Here picture there, there's a kind of an ethereal ghost
chip in the background. A few dolphins. I put the
dolphins in there, like them Microsoft a ghost ship. They're
also known as phantom shifts. It's a vessel with no
living crew on board, so that's kind of fun you
find them. You call them phantom shifts. Shifts I've had
(07:18):
Have you ever had a phantom shift? Yeah, probably, just
like when you wake up sometimes your slobbron on your pillow.
I'd call that a bit of a phantom shift. It
is so a vessel with no living crew on board,
which is very interesting. It may be a fictional ghostly
vessel and we get into this a little bit later,
like the flying Dutchman, or a physical derelict found a
(07:38):
drift with its crew missing or dead, like the Mary Celeste.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Flying Dutchman. Of course, not to be confused with the
Dutch rudder.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
No, that's it's a way to beat your friends off
without being gay.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah, so you grab their their arm therefore arm, Yeah,
and you manipulated in a sense.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
When but everyone does it. It's kind of like the
cogs of a clock and as it rotates.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
But it's not because you don't touch Mickey's. You don't
have hand on Mickey.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Is it they move you touch your owney?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
I think I think you touch your own and they
manipulate your forearm and your elbow.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
That doesn't sound great, man, No, I know, it just doesn't.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I think great Dutch oven. It might be wrong.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Why is it the Dutch? Because I thought it would
be that like sort of they would be on and
then so everyone's moving everyone because like, like I.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Didn't think there was a group activity. I might be
totally wrong. I thought was like the Dutch.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I mean they are horny people, and I think that's
where a lot of this comes from. The Dutch Oven again,
that's kind of.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
More of assault.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
The Dutch that's horrible. The Flying Dutchman. Then the Flying Dutchman.
I think it's a it's a burger with no bun,
so it's like just the meat and oh stuff. Yeah,
I didn't know that, I think, so I could be
wrong with that. The term is sometimes used for ships
that have been decommissioned but are not yet scrapped, as
well as drifting boats that have been found after breaking
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loose of their ropes and being carried away by the
wind and the waves. Now, in a more recent sort
of terminology, the ships which travel with their mandated automatic
identification system turned off to avoid detection. Gone like the
kind of they're more pirates. But yeah, ghosts like ghosts,
so they're not shown up on the raidar. So we
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have a selection of some ghost ships we are going
to talk about, the Mary Celeste, the SS bass Shimo,
the Flying Dutchman, the m v JOA, Carol, a deering
Orang Madan and cian Gan saying excuse me, and as
I said, these notes came from history extra point on,
so shouts out to did.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
What's your favorite costs? Top five ghosts? Top three ghosts.
The lady that comes from the television.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
In Samara from the ring ring name Smara. I think
it might have just been.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Smara probably Samara is pretty good.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Other ghosts the ghost and Scary movie too. That's kind
of funny. I believe Marilyn Wayne's as sex her and
she had the bag on her head. If you recall that,
that's pretty good. Other ghosts that are good.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Casper Friendly ghost number one was.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
A nice ghost. Friendly. Yeah, he was Friendly number one.
I was going to say the Blair Witch, but she's
more of.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
A witch's ghost project then the Witch, the Blair Blair
the ghost project.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah, who else is a good? But was he a ghost?
He was a polter geist something that's no. Older guys
be a different entities all together. Yeah, Jesus, And I
mean you think, what are you talking about? Five years,
half a decade to do pot a ghost? Polder Geist
isn't a ghost. I don't believe it just knocks on
(11:14):
the wall. It's a presence, but it's not a ghost.
It's a polder geist the boulder. What the polar geist
mean again, sort of strabag armon for ghost. I don't know.
I don't know what I believe you, so I'm going
to actually look this up. You remember when we did
the the Fella with the Eyes of the Peeper and
he was a flicker flicker geist. Oh yeah, they see,
(11:37):
but he's not technically a ghost. Oh yeah, so it
is a ghost.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
It is what's the main polder ghost polar German folklore
or ghost ghost ghost like a polar geist is a
type of ghost, not a ghost.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
It was like a sub section. That's the type of
a ghost. Is like a ghost like a ghostlder, guys,
we all know that everyone around the world.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
No, yeah, I could I forget. Slimer Slimer is probably
the best slimers. Slimer movie, Slimer cartoon, Slimer.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Movie, Slimer movie. Movie Slimmer was a lot more difficult.
Slimmer was a friend, whereas movie Slimer wasn't. He wasn't
a friend. I found him in the library. I believe
it's a malevolent. Yeah, yeah, yeah, male voland but slimer
and the TV show Lovely Yeah. I think we're becoming unhinged.
(12:42):
The Mary Sledge. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
The most famous ghost ship of them all has to
be the Mary Clay. Having left New York in early
eighteen seventy two bound for Italy, the marchant brigantine was
spotted drifting alone in the Atlantic Ocean on the fifth
of December. The abandoned ship was found by the Canadian
brig the de Gracia off the Azars, but there was
(13:06):
no trace of Captain and Benjamin Briggs, his wife, their
two year old daughter, or their small crew of seven.
While the cargo and crew's personal belongings were undisturbed, the
sales had only partially been set, a log entry had
not been made in the last ten days, and a
lifeboat was missing. What's more, although there was water in
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the hold, the Mary Celeste had no risk of sinking.
So what caused brigs and the crew to desert to
see worthy ship and what were their fates? Well, there
are many theories, despite lack of evidence, somewhere suspicious of mutiny, piracy,
or an elaborate fraud. In the year since natural phenomena
(13:52):
like water spouts, essentially a sea tornado. Sometimes the viatins
will send them up as well, and I think a
hydrous spout with that the voith and yeah, how's that
from fine fantasy or fairs that the gas is leaking
from the alcohol in the hold could have exploded. They
(14:14):
were mooted, So it wasn't them and it wasn't the tornadoes. Well,
no conclusive explanation has ever been uncovered. The leading hypothosis
suggest that Briggs believed the ship to be sinking incorrectly.
It was taking on water and one of the pumps
was broken, which may have led the crew to carry
out a hasty and premature evacuation. Ultimately, the reason for
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the Mary Celeste's abandonment and remains a mystery.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
We don't know what happened to us and the fate
of its crew they don't know either. So it's like,
can you imagine that you thought the ship was sinking?
So what does the ten people leave or just drown?
Well they might have. They're missing a lifeboat. Well that's it,
so they did, but they never found the crew.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
But that could mean many things, especially if you fraud. Well,
I could mean that just turned up somewhere and just
assumed new identities.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, I suppose I forget that you could do that
back then, Like anyone could find Captain Briggs on Facebook.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Not like if Captain Briggs rocked up to like Ireland, Like,
no one's going along with Captain Briggs, like evening, not Captain.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Briggs at all. What's that fine slack ale that you
were selling? You know it would be pretty good?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
No, but yeah, like, I mean, there's an infinite number
of reasons it would be very strange all that they
would have abandoned it without leaving something in the log mmm,
like even just like hair lads were leieving the ship
if anyone finds that.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah, no, you're right too. There's a there's a friend
of mine. He was telling me about some stories about pirates,
and he was telling me this really cool one where
like it was a real sort of like wild West
of the seas. So there was one story where he
said a fellow robbed a boat and went out by
himself in kind of a rowboat to this big ship
and just pretended he was part of a pirate crew.
(16:01):
And he said, listen as they sent me first. But
they basically said if you don't jump off this ship now,
like we're gonna come on board here and kill everybody, right,
so we're giving you a chance. Everyone jumped off and
then he just took the ship off himself.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Like pirates. Pretty sick good neck on him. Is he Smalian?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
He was Captain Phillips, I think of his name. No,
this fellow wouldn't have been Somalian. This was like Jack Sparole. Yeah,
this is like more rum drink and kind of pirates.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Right, that's very What would have been beguiling is that
story where I suppose you did beguile them?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
It would have beguiled them smart, well, ballsy, high risk.
I'm actually part of this group in this boat. Yeah,
so yeah, pretty good, pretty good. But with that we
move on to the s s. Couldn't tell you the
Arctic Circle. This is kind of cool one. This this
(16:54):
is a story that makes when you listen back to it,
you go, oh, yeah, that makes sense. Did you see
season one of The Terror? No, you dumb, but no,
it's a it's a story brought this to mine. So
the story of it is like it's a similar thing.
(17:14):
Ships that were trying to find merchant lines would get
stuck in the ice caps and in the terror this
sort of weird polar bear comes after them, which is
pretty cool. But this is a story like that without
a weird polar bear. So for ten years from nineteen
twenty one, when I came under the ownership of the
Hudson Bay Company, the cargo ship SS BEMO traversed the
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fraud northern waters of the Arctic Circle or the Arctic.
How would you say that Arctic? Arctic? Yeah? When I
first saw the thing, it was a Arctic. No they did.
They were doing a lot on TV three, and it
was like Curt Russell's in the Arctic Circle, and I
was like, what the fuck? I never heard it said Arctic.
It's obviously spelt that way. I'd say art the Arctic.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah, no, but Arctic, I would say Arctic as well,
probably interest you know what.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I mean, because when Iceman does his snowball attack in excellent,
his Arctic attack, artic attack, or maybe that's just what
I hear. Maybe says Arctic attack, Arctic attack pro tongue hand. Yeah.
So they're carrying furs and other goods to and from
trading posts on Canada's North coast. In October nineteen thirty one,
(18:28):
it became trapped in pack ice off the coast of Alaska,
so this would have been what happened to the poor
the Terror as well, Completely stuck and with no prospect
of breaking free. Before the ice crusted the ship, All
but the skeleton crew of fifteen were evacuated by plane,
so the men who stayed hoped to wade out the
winter by living in a wooden shelter near the stricken Betamo.
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But after bunkering down for several days during a blizzard,
they emerged to find the ship had disappeared. Goodness, so
they assumed it had sunk, but in fact the Bejamo
remained afloat and had broken free of the ice after all.
After being corrected by seal hunters who had spotted it
floating free, the sailors tracked it down, retrieved some of
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its cargo, and then abandoned it once more. Over the
next few decades, the Bejamo was spotted numerous times in
Arctic waters. Attempts were made to board or salvage the vessel,
but the ice and weather conditions meant it always eluded capture.
The last confirmed sighting get this it was nineteen sixty nine.
That's cool, isn't it Basically basically so they that there
(19:38):
have been sporadic reported sighting since then as well, So
this is almost like the perfect cryptid boat, do you
know what I mean? That's cool. Yeah, I mean you
would imagine like it's it must be a really impressively
bilchipped because it's over one hundred years old now, which
is kind of wild, but it could.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, they get preserved for whatever reason. I mean, well,
especially the stuff under the water anyway at least, but
that's probably down to the bed being like I don't
know fairly when.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
It's just like it just grows coral and stuff like
that on the ships, you know, and they're like, like
it gets destroyed if you like, so there's not much more.
It's not going to evaporate or be eroded.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Like it makes sense to me that people want to
go down and see the Titanic, but also doesn't like, yeah,
I would love.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
To see it in person.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I'm sure like it looks cool like some of the
funs you see where you see like the original like
railings and stuff, and like you see that down there
and you're like, oh wow, that's.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Cool, Like but it would be cool. Yeah, it's so
fucking scary. Like that's the thing about under the ocean,
Like it's really interesting, Like having done a few dives
and stuff like that, it is really cool. It's also
pretty boring, yeah, because there's not that much going on
under the ocean now. A lot of people who love
diving eminently disagree with me, and that's fine. Al for example,
(21:02):
he's a big diving diving boy. But yeah, yeah, but yeah,
it's it's a like that be think it wouldn't it
be great to just be able to go to these
certain points? And in fact, in Ireland there's riddled witch
ship Wrex around Ireland. Yeah, if you go down to Tremoor,
(21:25):
I don't think people really do any dives out there,
but there's loads of there's loads of ruined ships in
between the metal Man and stuff. Yeah, oh god ya
pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yeah, I mean there would be loads of something chips
all around that way.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
And you know what they say, loose lips ships.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yeah, you'd wonder like I'd wonder like we had I
think Mike Greig Greig grand Out had three Sconers, which
is a lot, like they're pretty big boats. Yeah, the
sky Sconners decent, Like you'd wonder, like what they ever
did with them after that they commissioned them, did they
he was part of the timber in other like, you'd.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Wonder imagine it's kind of like breaking down.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yeah, it would have been up cycled in some form. Interesting.
So we're on two leo flying Dutchmen. Unlike the real
vessels on this list, this ship is a myth, a
ghoulish worship, unable to make port, so doomed to sail
the oceans for eternity, and that the scene as important
of disaster. So it's like, it's like, aren't sirens like that? Yeah,
(22:31):
like the marmaids. Some of the evil marmaids are known
as like sirens.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Odysseus he had to tie himself up to the ship's
masts and he's like, I'm so randy, please, but the
crew didn't let him get taken down.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Taking understand, are making a movie best Christopher Nolan is made.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah. No, I don't know if it's like retailing or
what it is like, but I'm hoping it's not a
modern retailing the old folk erecting homers the other see,
I have an original, an original. I doo. Yeah, someone
bought me a really nice copy of that for my
twenty first But.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Yeah, I have a a somewhere. Yeah, hard to read.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Oh yes, I'd rather just watch Christopher Nolan. Yeah, and
hopeful that it's better than Tenant. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Tenn Rather, first mentioned in literature in the seventeen hundreds,
suppose the sightings of the Flying dutch Man, often through
thick veils of mist and fog, have been reported for centuries.
The future George the Fifth and his brother Prince Albert
Victor apparently spotted this ship off the court of Australia
in eighteen eighty one, yet no evidence exists that this
boat was ever real. Instead, it occupies a more archetypal
(23:39):
place in the lore of naval history. The Flying Dutchman
has inspired poems and stories, an opera by Wagner, and,
more recently, the Terrifying Ship captained by Davy Jones and
the Pirates of the Caribbean movies. I've never seen one
of them, Junes Squid.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I saw the first one. I saw the first one
in the cinema. I talked with you. You sure, yeah,
your cousin he loved being a sailor. Memory he went
through that sailor phase and he went through an Ironman face.
The sailor phase seemed to have stuck because I think
they drink more rum and Tony Star does have problem. Yeah,
(24:17):
so I think. No, I didn't, I didn't go well,
I definitely went to the cinema to see it with. Yeah,
it's the first movie. Is good fun and you know
I've gone on the Pirates of the Caribbean ride on Disneyland. Yeah,
it's good fun. Take a lot of artistic license with
the movie Dinosaurs. There was a dinosaur, No, there wasn't.
(24:42):
It's pretty cool though. It's it's fun. You're going through
the water and all the pirates are singing and dancing
and yeah. Yeah. At the end of it, Jack Sparrows
there the car. Good evening, goods. Why my bed number? Yeah, yeah,
bitch wild. I can't imagine being so AnGR agreed that
I would ship on another human's bed.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
I'd love to be that angry, just it's.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
A weird way to express anger as well.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Imagine imagine someone just dropped Trio in your sitting room
and just shot on the floor.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
It's funny, like I would I would laugh like the
neck of it like, Yeah, I think as well. It's
a very vulnerable position to take if there's any fear
of someone showing up there. Imagine trying to take a
ship out of anger that someone just catch technic kicks
in your city ars. Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't like to
(25:33):
get kicked in my arse while I was trying to
take a ship. To be fair, I want and onto
the Envy ja. Few maritime mysteries are as perplexing as
that of the Envy jo Ea, a luxury yacht turned
commercial vessel that disappeared in the South Pacific in nineteen
fifty five. It had set sail from Samoa on the
(25:54):
third of October, which is my birthday, Sacred Day. Samoa
Joe just walk away from lads, jumping off the top rope,
sick and class with twenty five passengers and crew aboard,
bound for the Takeuilau Islands just over three hundred miles away,
but it never reached its destination Crypt Crypt Five and
(26:30):
a half weeks later, the Joita was discovered more than
six hundred miles off course, still afloat yet partially submerged.
All twenty five people were missing, along with four tons
of cargo. The ship's log book and navigational equipment. Adding
to the confusion, the radio had been tuned to the
International Distress signal, but no SOS call had ever been received.
(26:53):
The ensuing investigation brought no clear answers to what befell
the ship. Since then, theories have ranged from pirate see
botched abandonment after mechanical failure, kidnapping by Soviet submarines, and
murder by Japanese fishing fleet. I'll tell you what if
they did the envy joid it the same way they
(27:14):
do the dolphins out in the coat, And yeah, that's
pretty pretty fucking wild. Do you know what this brings
to mind? Someday they're just going to find Connor McGregor's
empty yacht just drift in the sea somewhere, only remnants
of white powder that scattered along along the ship. That'd
be kind of a good end to his career, just
(27:37):
mysteriously disappeared and then coming back at the challenging that's
an interesting one. That's cool, And they're, like I said,
all these stories interesting, you know, bewitching. Would it be.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Interested at all that when the oldestasine trades that in
Japan coming out?
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Yeah, probably i'd like to play as yet might I
think I might suck it in a bit. A big
giant black samurai. He's so cool. Like I watched the
anime of Yaske, which was class right, but the anime
had like fucking dragon spirits. But apparently I saw pictures them.
Apparently it was like an emperor. He was brought in
(28:21):
as a slave or something and the emperor was like whoa,
who the fuck's that guy? And just he served the emperor.
The emperor made him a samurai and he was like, like,
imagine a dude from Africa in Japan at the time.
He was just towering above anyone. He was probably a
complete specimen. And I'd say absolutely.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Room lads class it's mad like hilarity as well, Like
there's there's records the reckon of like Egyptian lads turned
up in Ireland, Like.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Yeah, yeah, people were what were they given out that
it wasn't like more of a Japanese guy who was
the samurai there?
Speaker 2 (28:53):
But like that's were they were given out because they
thought it was fictional walk cast but it was actually
so they were like yeah, wow, after inserting a black
guy into a game about samurais.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
What the fuck. No, it's actually a historical thing. Yeah, no, yeah,
and like that from what I again, I watched the
anime so on that like a historian about it. But
he seemed like a pretty cool dude.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
The lore is class like back on the ghost ships,
the Carol Air Dearing. In late January nineteen twenty one,
the carl Air Dearing five master schooner, built for speed
and capacity in the post First World warshiping boom was
spotted off the coast of North Carolina, where Jeff Hardy
is from. It was heading right for Diamond Shawls, the
(29:36):
so called graveyard of the Atlantic.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yeah, that sounds good, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
The Diamond Shawls or Shoals, I said, Shoals, I.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Would say shows.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
It would take several days before anyone was able to
board this ship, which had indeed run aground on the
notorious Shoals, but the twelve strong crew and lifeboards were missing.
No sign of them has been found. There was damage
to steering equipment, and an earlier communication with the ship
revealed that the anchors had been lost, but the cause
(30:05):
for desertion has never been ascertained. Could it have collided
with another vessel, or had there been a misjudged mutiny.
The captain had complained of the crew being difficult.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
They always are, they're all super woke. Here's my pronouns.
He was, like, Jesus just turned the rudder. Use my pronouns.
I won't answer to anything. That's probably what happens. That's
probably what happened.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Yeah, that's that's when the walk come off.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
As would say. No, I won't say anything, he said,
even though it will be objectively hilarious to repeat trying
to be funny about trying and be funny, but sometimes
laughing comes to crying, and we're just trying to have
fun here. And I think that the captain should have
used the pronouns of the people that that were his crew. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Other terorries have suggested that Daring was hijacked by a
Prohibition era run runner gang or Russian saboteurs rum runners.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
That's pretty interesting, isn't it. Lads who are just yeah,
so like you're in the middle of just run and run,
and then you're like, fuck it, we're in for the penny,
in for the bound. Let's take on that ship. That's
pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I probably back then would have been a pirate.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yeah, it would have been lass because like.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
You would have been grand doughnut as well. Like it
just would have been like right, that's got a gang
of lads together.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Would have been pretty lame as well, though, because I
would have been more of a highway man.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
I think I would have been hiding in the bushes
a lot of lads and the knocks him on ahead
as they come by with a lot of gold or something.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
I think you would have been more of an isolated
kind of a fellow. I don't think you want to
be around a lot of lads on a boat or
in bushes all day.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Maybe, but back then, you know, turning a profit might
have well, yeah, maybe it's hard to know what are
you really turning.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
You just get like you're just scavenging. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Stick by yourself, stab lads, stab lads, take their take loot.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah, it's hard to know.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Intriguing clue about the ship's fit in marg in April
twenty one, when a message in a bottle washed up,
timing it had been captured by an oil burning boat.
So Not, however, was found to be a hawks by
a local fisherman, but further investigation of the Daring was impossible.
In March, the wreck had been destroyed as part of
efforts to remove hazards, right, so.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
And there was yeah, there was nothing there. But they
said that the Triangle one of the.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Victims that could have been Perma Triangle episodes because like
literally wed two.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Of them and I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
It was that long ago, told so many afterwards, that
many because that was a two part so there was
a lot of like different stuff in that.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, yeah, trying to like wreck my brain, wrack my
brain to go back, but I.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Can't, I actually can't.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
So there was in that episode. If anyone new was
this and I don't want to go back, Like there
was a lot of There was a lot of shit
with that Bermuda.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
It was very interesting.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
It seemed to be more of a shking though, but yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Just it's a pretty large area as well. Yeah, you
know the s s orrang Madan. The tale of the
s s orrang Madan is shrouded in mystery, like every
other tale today, marked by a significant lack of evidence
and conflicting reports. In fact, that's all it might be
(33:14):
a tale, an urban legend, No ship of that name
has ever appeared on official records or shopping registers. Shipping
shopping register, totally different, totally different thing, dudes ham down.
According to the story, the Dutch ship was passing through
the Strait of Malacca off Indonesia in the nineteen forties
(33:36):
when it's radio operator sent out a frantic SOS claiming
the officers were dead and that the remainder of the
clue were probably dead too, before transmitting one final chilling message,
I die. Fuck that's pretty sure. That part sorry that
I die just totally disrespected with the verb we shouldn't
(33:57):
really eat. It's probably between episodes anymore. Like, it's tough work, man,
I'm kind of you put the heating on and fed
meself sweating. My body's reacting. I've had three bugs tea
and I'm just like, dudes, two more fucking bullshit ships
to get Let's just let's just get on with this. Yeah,
it's not fun actually, to be honest, you've had me
(34:19):
here since two o'clock and it's now nearly five hours. Cordle,
I know will be hitting into like, but this is
this is baby stuff with you ready for this? A
rescue ship rushed to the scene, but all that was
found was the Oraangmudan adrift with no sign of life.
The bodies of the crew were strewn everywhere, fixed with
expressions of tar, despite no visible injuries or clear cause
(34:42):
of death. Before the ship could be investigated further, a
fire reportedly broke out and the rescuers had to get
clear of the ship before it exploded, sending the wreck
into the depths in our water. Theories of world around
the fate of the ora Angmdan as has the question
(35:03):
of whether it ever truly existed, but regardless, it's quite
a haunting tale of lore.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Now to wrap it up, we have to jian sing
not only as the fate of the Jan Seng's crew unknown,
but the ship's very origins are there too. In our
r to Rather, in two thousand, six, to eighty meter
tanker was spotted from the air drifting off the coast
of Queensland in Australia. It was both abandoned and damaged
beyond use. Where the ship came from, who its crew
(35:32):
was and what it was doing in that part of
the ocean has never actually been determined. The tanker Borno,
identifying Marx as the Jan Seng, was not reported missing,
the authorities could not track its ownership. It was suspected
that the ship had been used for legal activities such
as drug smuggling or forbidden fishing operations. The Jan Seng
was actually told out to see in scuttled.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
I like that word school, isn't it. Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Still, its sudden appearance and the complete mystery about it
has made a modern symbol of the chilling, a lore
of an old pretty good.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Well, one thing I would say about most of these
is there are all a lot of them. More German
wartimes when there would have been submarines were basically what
you're worrying about.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
There.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
The reason I know that is because I have mentioned
it in the past. But you can find ladies and gentlemen.
An interview from my very very very own great great
grandfather who was aboard the Leinster, which was a ship
that was sank by a German U boat and it
was a huge loss of life. It was it was
(36:41):
a ship traveling between Dublin, Hare and Wales or maybe
it was going to Liverpool, I don't know. And basically
it was hit by a torpedo and loads of people died.
So and and and his actual story is like he's
talking about pulling be out of the water and ship,
(37:01):
and like I think he mentions like their hair and
his buttons and everything, all this type of fucking grim stuff. Yeah,
but black story short, A lot of this was wartime stuff, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah, it seems like it's based on the on the years,
and as well the technology now would make it sot
of probably be very difficult to lose a ship. You know,
do you think that you have much sailor genetics in you? Yeah, yeah,
you'd be okay with it.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
I feel like there's somewhere in me that feels dying
and water or something.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Well, not learning to swim with certis with that.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
At some point, I feel like I've got in my
DNA something about sinking in a ship or something like that.
Makes sense, Yeah, make that makes sense. But any this
is that this is a misconception, like an idiots such
as yourself would have everyone drowns out the autumn. Brother,
if we're in a ship out with the auccean goes down,
You're dead.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
I'm dead. You you'll just dice lore.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Yeah, well I'm you get the illusion of you to
watch me, yeah, and then you die.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Well worth well worth learning to swim for that. But
that's the crack, Like that is the crack, we're all dad.
As a matter of fact, it might be better than
in the ocean.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Maybe a ship is in the distance and I just
have to keep myself afloat that's possible. And you meanwhile,
I hanging out of my back. We likely now you're right, Yeah, yeah,
the reality is that, especially if you're in a ship
and it starts to think that the probabilities you're gonna
drown inside the ship.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
I mean, don't get me wrong, it's better to know
how to swim, to swim if you're in ship sinking
in the ocean, Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
That's definitely a skill that but you're to your point, Yeah,
you're you're most of the water that people would drown
in that's non ship related you can avoid by not
going into the water, which is again that's a great
strategy to drowning. I'm more likely to drown than you
because I know to swim. That's true.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Actually, so you know, I probably a composer to dine
in the auction because you or because I've I've over
over assessed my ability to swim.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
You see this is the thing. You got to look
at the data latterly, this is the thing you know,
you'd like, you just go Rob can't swim, Sure he'll drown,
but no, actually, when you pay it back, Rob's probability
of drowning probably greatly reduced because he will never put
himself in that situation.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
I missed my window of dying in the aucean.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
When I was a kid.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
I had a couple of close calls and the color
gone either way.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
That was like when he would have been frolicking in
curra clot and things like yeah, yeah, nearly drowned out
and said alands.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
One time where I just kept walking out into the
sea and a.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Few wrenches in your pocket and just you path.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
No, I was probably like, I don't know, it's probably
nine or ten, and I was just I think I
was like, let's see how far I can walk out
into the water.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Can't swim?
Speaker 2 (39:47):
That was great, And so I got out, probably up
to my neck and then got knocked over. So that
could have went either way.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Knocked back the way towards the shore, or knocked towards.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Or just knocked me under. So I just went straight
under and I was like, I'm under water now.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
And you're like, right, I better go back, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Walk back espe like I pushed myself up off the
floor kind of and got back up on back out
and I was like, oh that was got I nearly died.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
That was interesting. But to be fair, Poweller wasn't able
to swim, and she kind of more recently so I.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Did not any board now I do pretty cool. Nearly
died in Splash World as well. That was my other opportunity.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
All nearly died in Splash World.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
To be fair, that was my second opportunity, and both
of my avoided. So I think third times.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Charm when will you be in the water?
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Could fly off arod in the car? You know, then
I'm Drowning'll be more worried into the river about.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Flying off the car. Might be it might be the
bigger issue there. Well it's funny, yeah, because like we'll
be going on the stele line again. Yeah, we will
here unless we decide to take to the air. It's
that bat back, So I mean, could this be? It could?
And I don't know. Magic we'll be listening to that
barry Man a little one. What the audacity gain? Just
(41:01):
the confidence the name of your first album Class. Yeah,
so you might get a chance then sort of later
on in the year. Yeah, so I'll say you, I'll
bring us both back to Irish waters.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Boats I like, I actually do like boats or spookyter class.
I like stand line, it's fun. I enjoy boats and
a bit of that's wime.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
We blew up that that inflatable and went out to Oh.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
That was actually the third time I already died, so
I think I've actually avoided it actually because I'm a
fucking idiot.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
When I look back at that one. That was.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
When I look back at that one, I'm like, oh, yeah,
that was even the fact.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
That like a lake is so hard to swim in anyway,
like a.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Good would have been there by the time you got
to me, like because I would have went, I would
have been going down, would like Ladius mega out to me,
or by the time you swam out of me, I'd
probably been down at the bottom.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Well, seen as I was the only one who wasn't
stone to the marabone, I would have been the one
tried to get.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
For our listeners who are wondering, one time the last
has bought a really shite inflatable thing and we went
half on it.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Yeah, I think it's still in me Da somewhere.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
And we went we brought it out to the quarry,
which is, you know, basically a body of water rain
water lake, and there's a little island out in the middle.
And so I decided to get in the little paddle
boat and paddle out on your todd and I didn't
know how to swim. But also furthermore, I broke on
or getting onto the island.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
So then I was on the island and I was like,
I have one or together.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Then it's like you might have to now to be fair.
It was more just like an extravagant I will do
that now. They were the all or nothing days. I
don't think I would. I honestly don't think I do that.
I thought youth was on your side, and you were
kind of fearless, and you're really stone. I think all
those things helped.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
But like, because even dragging that up onto that rocky shore,
I was like, this is going to puncture.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
But like we probably we probably were never meant to
make it past twenty three and what I for away
the fates conspired. We just managed to slip through. But
I think nature wanted us gone, and it was just like, OK,
I'm just taking back to that and I'm like, what
the actual fuck was like that Between the two of us,
we've nearly drowned almost a dozen.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Times since then as well, Like a bunch of people
have died in that lake, like literally probably five four.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
A lot of people jumping in, hitting themselves on the
rocks and then yeah, or just people swimming. Man, there's
a couple of people that just swimming. Yeah, well this
is it again. A lot of people get really done
with lakes because there's no oxygen and it's way harder
to tread water, so you're just gas out, especially if
you're not used to swimming. Now you're in the middle
of a lake and you're too tired to get back,
and you're you're not buoyant like you were.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Scary man, even just you're saying that you're like dry.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Yeah, and then didn't they didn't. I don't think people
hit the body the recent there, but it wasn't hitting
the water, was it. I think it was. Yeah, So
that the legs waters are nice and pure up there. Well,
I mean, based on what we're saying now, you reckon
that there's probably ghostly hands to grab your.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
But then again, like I mean, Jesus staff story, I
mean out unaffected by it just sounded so horrible that
plane crash in America.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Did you hear about this? The helicopter crashed into the plane.
Oh yeah, Jesus. And they tried to blame migrants first, migrants,
And there's the whole thing they had. They had reduced
standards to become a pilist, to be more inclusive. Was
I'm pretty sure they just gave people training may not
have had access. I could be wrong, That's what I'm assuming.
(44:41):
So I think it was. There's spinning a lot of garbage.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
As always, but ye saw sad like it was for
the kids that playing affected by it. Yes, it's funny,
like we don't really think about it, but like there
are literally two degrees of separation at most times on
this podcast, there's probably that has been directly affected by it.
Like like, for example, we know someone who knows Joe Rogan,
(45:04):
do you know what I mean? So well, we know
someone who knows someone who knows organ Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
So do you know what I mean? So? Like the
degrees is that you're only you're only probably ever about
and especially now that you're so much more interconnected with
with the internet, you're probably only ever three handshakes away
from anyone in the world.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Look, so yeah, look, I was such a tragedy. They
were literally about the land, which is the worst thing, and.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
They were hit into a helicopter.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
Yeah, and they're at that height as well, where it's like.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Like I just I think that's spooky as well with planes,
is that once they like we saw last time with
the landing that went after the Yeah, it's pretty it's
pretty gross, pretty horrible.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Yeah, they're reckoned though, Like some people were asking to do,
do you think that there would have been alive when
they hit the water, like because they're playing basically I
think now, I think that the information that's most recent
that I have is like that that that it actually
hit the wing and it blew up like the petrol
fuel in the wing and the plane I think might
(46:07):
have come in half, maybe a lot of points. There's
like probably most people were intact and alive at that moment.
So like then you're you're hoping that's something kind of
knocks them out or they're not really the rapids they
were only about you see, I say only but they
were only about three hundred feet up, like they weren't
crazy high to where it's like it's a ship height
(46:29):
for anything like that to happen, basically, is what I'm
trying to say.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
So it's just such a tragedy thing to like just
even know.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
It's such a tragedy, like horrible, horrible stuff. But yeah,
we'll leave it there for the Goals ships, I think
actually in general they maybe we'll do like a deep
dive on one of the Goals ships at some point
because yeah, really, because I think for some reason, maybe
I looked into notes at the Mary celestat one point
in time and never got around him or something. Yeah,
(46:58):
because the idea of a Goals ship is a very fascinating.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
It's because the fact that the mysteriously vacated. Yeah, it's
a really cool thing.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
And there's people who like they lived their life being
just fascinated by a sea or by an ocean if
they live near one, and it's like they'll beach homb
every day. They'll find like they're looking for the mystery
and like whatever comes up, whether it be that what's
that ship, you know, that ship that like whale fucking stuff,
Amber just or something. Have you heard of that arist
(47:29):
amber just or something? I remember it's like whale fucking.
It's not well gip, but it's like something that whale
puts off.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
I don't know whether it's.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Fat off a dead whale or something basically a byproduct
of a whale that washes up. It smells really bad,
but it's used in perfumes. Stuff's more mad money, really
mad money. So like people look for that. People also
came for the lego that washed up that time. Do
you ever hear about that?
Speaker 1 (47:56):
Like a ship and with a lot of lego ship and.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
Fred with a lot of lego bursts, and like to
this day there's still loads of like washing.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
You know, sea hash hash. I'm sure there's lots of
cocaine as well. Stuff like that that gets thrown overboard
when they.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
Must be addictive, Like imagine you're walking along a beach
and you find something.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Really cocaine is definitely addictive.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
Like if you find cocaine or hash, like you'd be like, oh,
I'm going to keep home on the beach. But like
even if you found something kind of unusual like message
in a bottle type of shit, or like even like
cool leg or you're like, oh, well.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
I was on Tremore Strand one day and a baby
dolphin had washed up and it was like it was
dead or whatever, and but it was a kind of
a mad things. I'd never seen one. Yeah, it kind
of standing. It was kind of more a bit curious,
but it was very interesting. I think that's it. If
you could fast travel to different parts of the ocean
(48:48):
and like as deep as you want with a light source,
like I'd say, there'd be so many amazing things to see,
Like you ever see when people are in those kelp
forests and like white swimming about and it's just so
majestic looking. You know. There's a guy I mess when
I was diving, and Kerry, and he was telling me
(49:09):
that he was from South Africa and he was like, yeah,
I used to like I go down to the bottom
and I would see like great whites and I'd just
be waiting there for him to go away, like I
couldn't whatever. But diving in Ireland and stuff like that
wouldn't bother me too much. But the idea of diving
where there could be like a tiger shark or a
make or a great white or whatever something a shark
(49:31):
like terrifying.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Then again, you know, like basking sharks, not a mace
bus come up with Yeah, you'd probably freak out, but
at least remember that fell got swallowed by the Yeah,
that could happen.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
I don't. I don't think it would be able to eat.
But ask and sharks are again.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
And they're off the calls by the salty islands. There
you'll find them.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, you find them. And yeah. We went
to West Cork and we did like a it was
like a boat tour to try and find whales and
bot whales and stuff, and we saw a load of
dolphins that like swimming in and out so the front
of the boat they would like jump up, down and
swim with. I have some really nice, nice videos of it.
But it's amazing because you see something like that on
(50:16):
a TV show and you're like, oh, that's cool. When
you see it in real life, there is a real
sense of gravitas about it, like it's really it's really cool.
And I think there is something about like we've seen
almost everything through a screen, but when you're there, you're
and it just has this real sort of sense of scale.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
I'm rig and we missed it when we're in Iceland.
But we were going to go well watching an ice,
Yeah we missed.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
The only thing with the whales is that they're very
hard to see because they don't really breach, so you
usually like if you see anything. But i'll tell you
what we do over the song. We go on a
trip to West Cork and we'll go out there.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
It's like, I think we can find like not to
go top, but I think you can probably get basket sharks.
Well you can't get the off.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
No, you definitely can't. The thing is, so the thing
with the whales and the sharks is that dolphins are
much more interactive with the the rest of them. They
booked out or if you do see him, it's you know,
it's only like a fin. You don't get a really
good look at them, you know. But the dolphins are
like class. Like we saw a baby dolphin and a
mother dolphin both just breach at the same time. And
(51:20):
the tiny little fin in the big fin and it
was like they were both on a call. Really it's
and yeah, it's it's a it's a cool No orl
Paolo was sick. Yeah, she wasn't good. She wouldn't make
a good sailor.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Like you along class right to leave it there, and
then Fox, I've been robbed. I aiming ghostly ships over
and out.
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