Attempted Aliens

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
A little crypt and this is a scriptor.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I wanted to quit us against my enemies. Yeah, you see.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
You wanted to say and then learn how to raise you.
But I forget you from the wield.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Hello everyone, what is I am?

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Ram?

Speaker 3 (00:32):
And this is Monster Full's State of the Union today.
We're talking about aliens.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yeah, there, that seems to be a bigger issue for
the Union.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Are you worried about aliensmon, I'm.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Always worried about it. I've been worried about aliens before
it was in vogue.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
That's true, you know, I've been.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Worried about aliens back when, back before Congress ever knew
that there was aliens, not even aliens sorry, in your
dimensional time masters here like your one Luna when she
was on the Rogan was talking about like she says,
their interdimensional.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, what's your level of worry? Like so cryptid, alien, paraorge.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Sorry, mortgage trumps all of.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Those paranormal, cryptid and alien? Which is the top priority
of worry and anxiety for you?

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Alien would have to be the top one, is number one,
but like alien. I know we're coming up to Halloween, obviously,
you know it's going to get spooky, you know, I
don't even spooky. Do they need to retire that word?
It's an old racial slur, really spooky. Yeah, that's what they're.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Surprised that hasn't been They haven't tried to get the funny.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
It's actually like, as far as racial slurs go, it's
a clever one if I was to break it down
and explain why it's a racial slur, which would be
in poor taste.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
But sure, you know, people love protests on this podcast,
but I.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Think the original thing was like, no, actually, Jesus Christ,
I just caught myself the second there, but it is, yes,
it's it's a it's a racial slur. Is a it's
a racial slur? Yeah, but like well sorry, the term
spooked or to be spooked or like that was in
that was around long before. But then to call someone
ah that that will be the slur part?

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Oh yeah, isn't that kind of funny though?

Speaker 2 (02:20):
The reason, like you can kind of be like that's
actually if that wasn't a racial slur, it's kind of
a cool, Like it's a funny thing to say.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
This kind is a stupid I'm looking at that.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
It's pretty good. It's pretty good, Like it's it's it's
like a fucking super But if you said that and
like that was the mean, that's like something we'd say
to geer each other in Ireland and they will be like,
that's good, that that's a funny gear. It's just that
I was entitled with civil rights violations, which so that
makes it not cool. Well, I am. I am kind

(02:52):
of surprised it's not retired.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
It was apparently always a spooky term. First it was
all yeah, yeah, it was a bookie term first. Yeah,
and then it was misappropriated by racists. Yeah, so no,
we keep using the words spooky.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Well we can use spooky. Yeah, but you know, it
is funny, and I was sure you can't be canceled
anymore spook. Ever since Trump is all like, actually take
the guns off the trainees, and I don't think they
have many guns, Donald, I don't think they. I did
hear an interest in start recently that said, you, the
people who kill the most people in America are like aliens, No,

(03:29):
white lads in their twenties who are educated but unemployed.
So they're in like the top one percentile of you know,
the S A T s and stuff like that, But
they don't have a job and they're they're.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Better off keeping and stupid lads jocks on you now
you brought the school and now should have order. They're
fucked off and all why they're fucked off?

Speaker 2 (03:46):
That actually sounds like something the present elect Donald Trump
might say, with less of a Wexford kind of Mexican
should they're all fucking fucked off lads? You stupid not.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
See them min fin of a toilet.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
All.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
So he didn't answer my question. You went off on
a fr autism answer.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
There's something wrong with me, there is, I know, Italians
once again plumbed all wrong. Yeah, Aliens. Aliens are the
ones that, like, it's literally the most likely.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, I think aliens are up there with me too.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, but like especially since everything is coming out now
there's Lasbian like I ei, there's six underwater bases. Well,
they're all just these are theories. But we know with
Congress and all these videos that are coming through that
it's all like seems to be something there either that
it is just a really good say.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
I think I've read it to this. I just hate
to break it. Everyone listens to this podcast. Right now
that we have crossed the threshold the day I we
talked about not manifolds where I don't want to see
any footage of anything anymore because I think it's fake,
so I'm not interested. I've seen Chris Ben wah, I've
seen Chris Ben walk come out and.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Or that was the longest work. Can you imagine it
the work like it was just Chris Ben.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Imagine Chrispin walked out with his wife and kids and
all laughing. We worked to.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Probably going to be in the new A I A
w A I A w w A I.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
He comes out with crippler cross or someone.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Will we get in trouble for talking about Crispin walking
in trouble for it in trouble for't.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Not wrong any Yeah he was. I didn't do not wrong.
God rest us all like cheating steels.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
The amount of anabolic steroids he took. He did something wrong,
but not to anyone else.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
He was a good man.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Just has a stroke and ring or a heart attack like.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
That's when I was. That's when I got back into
the wrestlings. When Eddie dropping, when he became champ.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Well to be fair and his baits about like hitting
the chair off the ground, throwing it at the other
lad not like they were. They were.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
He was brilliant man. He was the underdog man he
was he was like he wasn't he was a small
like he was juice to the wrong but he was
small compared to everyone he was fighting usually like so
he was the underdog.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
He was cool.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
I like Eddie Semester and right.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, crisp and eight. Anyway, No, we you know, have
separate the art from the art.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
What's all performance.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
I mean that's the way things are going. So yeah, sure,
oh yeah, talking about this one, we're skipping all this
stuff we usually do where we're just a Patreon and
all that.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
If you want to good Patreon dot com for slash
Monster Falls, you will get access to exsive episodes which
I recorded one on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
And I'm not on the Patreon, so I don't know.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
No Sunday I was talking about or just I think,
see I'm going I'm going in a direction with its all,
but this one was kind of a general chit chat one.
But probably now I'm gonna pivot. I think I'm going
to start talking about creepy ship, but real life creepy ship.
So Chris ben Wall that true crime like Chris ben

(07:11):
wal coming into yours, Chris.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Ben wal coming into your bedroom is scary.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
We know what we know? Yeah, that kind of stuff.
So I think I want to do a little bit.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Are you're going to talk about like Chris stories about
what would happen like AI stories about Chris Ben stories?
But I can't.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
I might. It's a possibility you are now Chris Ben,
and I'm gonna write stories about you attacking me now
all the time. And I just got through.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
That because I think that mus sorry not you, Sam
mom and put Chrispin on this. He said it was
enough for these misrepresentations of Chris Ben. He was a
great wrestler.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
I love how on alls who were talking about probably
as bus anyway, Yeah, no, head on over to stuff
over on patron Discord. You can come over into the
discord and have no chat, or you can play wardle Ya,
which doesn't play a word.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Couldn't be interesting.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
It's too busy. He's too busy.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
That's very rich.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Socially, everyone that plays wardle in the discord is a
lazy layer boot.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah oh yes, time to come up with five letter words,
not enough time to get to the office. You think
you're all you lazy lay about my cres like you
can play wortle all day from the Horses Mount Fox, Lads,

(08:46):
I want more stories about CRISP. Benoir. We need to look,
we need stories about Chris ben Wah, Michael Jackson, O J. Simpson, Yeah,
free four way.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yeah, so check them out. We're over there. If that
many spooky stories or Chris Beno inspired literature.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Inspired literature for the Halloween season. It's a monster Fuss
podcast at gmail dot com. How you fucking lame off
that world and get writing some Chris ben Wah fanfic.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
I wonder there's a that's sentence Chris Benwah fanfic. I
wonder as there any of that out there? There must
be there must reckon that would be fair.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
I wonder what the reviews of our podcast? Oh do
you hear?

Speaker 3 (09:41):
One?

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Lad called us those conspiracy guys but with guys spent
g u I s et.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
That was what I was like.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Ah, I do know it's a bit of shade, but
it's a good pun and I'll take it.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
What they don't realize is I am Gordo using AI
technology to change my voice.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Can't you tell?

Speaker 5 (09:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yeah, very that his whole person's Aih seeped to his personality.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
He's like Neo in the matrix. When he swallows the matrix,
it goes into his throne and goes loves conspiracies, conspiracies
the new currency does mean. I don't know, but apparently
them a sad put that hit out on Charlie Kirk.
We should just spread because the Misinformation podcast. Have you
seen what the foc is going on with the canvas owns? Sorry,

(10:26):
maybe I should say that is a question. What the
fuck is going on with Canda's own She was going
mad about mccran's wife being a fella. For now she's
talking about how Israel killed Charlie Kirk. Then she started
talking about how it's all the work. She'd probably be
on the Crisp ben While podcast.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
I see these people like they don't realize it themselves.
Got to love them, but I think they are literally
slaves to an algorithm that seems whatever whatever nonsense that they.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Put out, they are, they great and.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Get what's talking about it, But like it was at
one point of grift and everyone's like.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
That they've been corrupted by the grift.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
But now now then all that the more divisive bollocks
that they say, the more likely people are.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
They're they're destroying society just one podcast at a time,
not like this was standing podcast where we would say
the Crisp Benua fan fiction.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
It's never been meritez because you know, if you look
at TikTok, like most of the time, it's not like
informative or talent stuff. Yeah, it's literally fucking stupid dumb
shit like inconsequential kind of sort of and we're the
same but just in different format. But like TikTok is
trash like and again it's not merits. It's not like

(11:35):
it's enhancing anything to do with your fucking life. It's
literally just stuff to grab you for a minute.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
They're like, all right, scroll, Yeah, I read somewhere the
fellow who who created the Infinite scroll like laments every day.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Yeah, Like I never really like I'm not scroller. I
never realized this, but like people literally will sit on
their phone and scroll for like now, I read though
my phone.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
So I do a lot of stuff, and I would
scroll a bit on on Facebook, not a huge exactly,
so and the only thing I have on Facebook is
like channels, so it's like wear wolves and fucking blah
blah blah for the podcast. So I do a little
bit of that, maybe a little bit on the gram
just you see what's happening. But aside from that, I

(12:21):
don't really I think YouTube I probably use more often
just listening.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Oh yeah, watch YouTube. Yeah yeah, no, I watch YouTube
for sure. It's like long form content usually.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
And then I usually something that I would always comment
on every YouTube. My knowledge you have to comment on
every YouTube video is like that way the people will
know that you're commenting and given your point of view.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
So I would watch watch on YouTube, I watch YouTube, watch.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
I'd watch like a YouTube video about the Pyramids. I'd say, haha,
this is blatant dis and misinformation.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
I would say, people actually do that. Just yeah, I
say that. But the thing is with that is that
I think sometimes you look at the YouTube comments and
you take them as a kind of a representation of
what real people think. That's and this isn't to get
into a bot conversation, but actually, if you're the kind

(13:15):
of person that comments a.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Lot on YouTube, it's like mad, really stupid. Like Duncan
Trussell made a really good point of this, and he
said it was talking about the Charlie Kirk, and he
said if I went in, I said, oh, it's really
bad that like in a room with actual people, I said, geez,
that's fucking rough on Charlie Kirk's kids or whatever. And
then you immediately just turned round and went what about

(13:37):
all the children in Gaza, Like that'd be a really
ridiculous thing to do. Sorry, it wasn't duncan trust that
was blind boy. But on on social media like that's like,
it's not actual conversation.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
It's mad sound to buy. I am off for the
totalitarian authoritarian give then tight to their Social Security number,
tight a their PPS number? How many matter? For talking
ship down on the internet. Let's see. I do think that.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
You think about the internet, ID that online idea that.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Will have to happen to it have to happen. It'll
have to happen because in two years and it's gonna
be videos you'll get next year videos you'll get Amazon
and people will be like Emzon OnlyFans now. But the
problem is, but it doesn't have your idea title, which
is that as I said that out loud, that's real.
I'm like, oh, this is going to happen. It's like

(14:28):
like that, because that's what's going to happen otherwise.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
But then if you like you never you.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Don't have there's no idea, and that it's not him.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, but you never, like, you never get a report
on everything you looked at for the year. And I
have a feeling like if you did look you'd just
be like, what the with your idea?

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Yeah, it turns out that you like big it's like, oh.

Speaker 6 (14:49):
Yeah, big DIDs and palastine, you're into sweaty pussies and
some oh you're into the anti Christ and round Like,
It's just.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
I don't know. Sometimes I wish you had data for
your real life like that, Like how many times have
you left a half a moketia on the table to
just break all the data of your life down so
you could see how wonderingly you piss your life away
into the wind.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
That is life style. That should be lifestyle.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Life is data.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
No, life should be monotonous most of the time. That's
what you want.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Really, we don't want a mad adventures. You'd get fucking
fed up of adventure. You know, we're as humans we
seek novelty, pure.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
What's adventure all the time? If you can't sit back
and appreciate the adventure.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Adventure all the time is end of it. Purt Cabaine
shoots himself in the head because he has the life
of adventure. Look at all those people, the twenty seven Club,
the famous people who just can't get right with it
because it doesn't matter to like us having this conversation,
like is their kind of mad fucking MDMA fueled nightlife,

(15:59):
because it's just like constant thing. Like the first few times
we did the podcast, you'd be thinking anything, and now
we're just like, yeah, just say everything, just do whatever,
just like we've done it so many times. There's comfort
in it, you know. But it's not like we don't
come here and it's not doing something that sort of
destroys our minds and bodies. Well arguably destroying our minds
and other people's minds, but yeah, like that must be it, right.

(16:23):
It's like for them, like just no, it's like that
the someone who's addicted to heroin or something, you know,
after a while of that, the active taking heroin is
just to feel normal. Yeah, you know, so just it
sort of finds.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
It's like there's a couple of times to start where
you're like, oh, this is kind of class, but that
goes very quickly.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
You're a habitual like I remember when I used to
smoke a lot. I like have a cigarette in the morning,
and every time I drag my whole body, you just
go like I don't want this? Like why am I?
And that's what enabled me to cut down because I
realize so much of it was habitual and our time
I was able to just But again, like I said,
I read that thing that said one cigarette a day
may as well be smoking twenty. So now my choices

(17:08):
either give up or just start smoking twenty.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
That's kind of cool. Lot smart twenty then kill three
because one way you can look at those like, well.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
It's your look, I'm smoking one anyway.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
You know, right, we're going to talk about this, are
we we can't do?

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Actually, like Jona the spot the Crackers with this little intro.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
I will look. I feel like this part the way
this podcast has become is kind of like what our
new podcast is going to be.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
It has kind of we're what our listeners realize, we're
giving us a little bit of a.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Sort of a well, what we're doing realistically is and
what the new podcast might be is we try to
talk about stuff and see if our adult brains will
allow us. Within the first twenty minutes.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Mark Tyland Alboys.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Tyland Alboys is a good title. Yeah, I don't know
the boy. I mean, it's not really going to get
much better than that when you think about it. You know,
I don't think it is like, what's going to be
better than tailand All the Boys. But we better snap
it up quick as well because I'll about it a
little bit. And there's even podcasts. One of the best
ones is called The tailand All Boys. They heard what

(18:15):
I had to say about til they obviously liked it
a lot.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
That Trump is like a six out with time.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
It's not bad, it's not yah away a bit to
go to be fair, hasn't put much effort. That's you know,
I don't be sitting I gotta get the eyebrows look
in the face. Sond comics actually do that though, that
will to be fair, that's their life. I understand that
that's their life. I do actually got to get the.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Thing that's especially I want to talk about all the
comics on Saudi Arabia. That's what I talked about.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Oh yeah, and what's what's the story with that is
everyone pissed off about that because your man is a
bad fella or is it just the general Arabia thing.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Well, I think people forgot buy a larriage, that most
stand up comics are like parasitic sort of sort of
have no spine kind the characters in general. I think
that's what people forgot because people because the read what's
the read? People think that standal comics are some kind
of messiah, like.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
The Fellows who tell the truth yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yeah, and advance like yeah yeah. Santa comic is like
the can think of jokes like no, Santam comic is
as a person that has to fight through being abused
on stage like a thousand times so that someone will
like him. It's like this crazy where you're building and look,
as I talked about on it, you know, none of

(19:34):
these people should be looked at as any sort of
moral sort of.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
No, but why why is everyone I just don't know
why everyone's upset about them going to react like what's
the reason?

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Well, it's Sudi Arabia is sort of history.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Just like the general vibes of misogyny.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
And well one of the one. There's a couple of
interests and ones. I think one of that dude was.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
A squarely character who's organizing it.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
All man like Seria Arabia, like s Saudi Arabia looking
at their human rights history? Is there to say? Like,
But one of the eyebrow reisurants was the Pete Davidson
fellow whose dad was killed in the nine to eleven attacks,
gone and doing a show on Saudi Arabia when Saudi
Arabia has ties with the nine eleven attackers. I mean

(20:16):
that is Bill Barr. He went in, Yeah, Bill Barr
is on record on his podcast many times kind of
saying they'd never do shows for the bag like that
because they're just you're selling your soul and how much
would you I do it for whatever? But I'm not.
I'm not here trying to know you're not here saying no, no, no,
that's true. Like and I'm like, do you know what

(20:36):
I mean? I get it from a certain perspective because
you're like, well, you're self employed. You have to make
the money for you for I see. I think this
whole welth thing is a tricky one because when you're
self employed, it's like professional football players, right, they say
the amount of money they're on as mad as ridiculous,
and it is to a degree. But also they've got
ten years or fifteen years of making money.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
They've also bought Giant two million man. Yeah that costs
like one hundred. But they've also overheads are a lot
of ir Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
And they've got fifteen years on the red line in
their bodies for that fifteen years and it's like, right,
so I get why they make that much. It makes
sense because if you told anyone when they're sixteen, he said,
you're only about mach one until you're thirty five, Like
what would like you'd be trying to make as much
as possible. But yeah, Bill Barr going. People were disappointed
because it's Bill Barr, I think to expect.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
He usually sticks by his going to Mecca wars.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Like when he came back, like on the podcast, he
was like, what a great you know, everyone was just
like a regular people. There was great.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
They had like they had a chili and they had
a little of fucking McDonald's or whatever. Maybe it is
though I've never been to Saudi Arabia, Like I don't
know nothing about Saudi ra.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
I'm just like, no, I'm sure Abia is great, but
it's the you know, I suppose it's the optics attached.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
But again, must we separate the art front just's Saudi
Arabia class but they you know, but the artists themselves not.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
To I've seen videos and that's going around Arabia like tourists,
travel YouTubers, notread. It looks like crack. But they were
getting paid by the regime they were there. Basically what
they were doing was look these Western artist come here
because it's so class and look at the It's all
like a PR marketing thing. So there's all videos, a

(22:21):
bill bar. This is great, you know.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Is their thing to try to like appeal to the
Western market. But they don't want to take on Western values.
I bet they do want to take on Western values.
Western values are pretty class.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
I don't think they do somehow or another.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
I think I think they just need to be exposed a.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Little bit more Western value. I think it's quite the
I know.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
That sometimes they wear they're smoking vests. But I think
if they just hung out, maybe watched a little bit
of bay Watch and Eddie Rockets, you know, and they'd kind.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
Of got mm hm, that interesting.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Maybe why the Americans were right.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
I think that's why I think. I think. I think
that's why people when I look, do I care? No,
I don't really care about much things that people are getting.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
The Lad's gonna say something and then do something different,
you know, unless you just own it and you're like, yeah, lad,
that's so much money and you're like, this is what
I cast. It turns out I cost five hundred.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
That there was like lesbian comics gone over and like
the fucking strong gets the death over there and it's
like the lesbian mom like when she came back, she
got that much back last year was like everything I made?

Speaker 2 (23:31):
How could you like and if that's a big part
of your act, Like if you know what that like,
I get it. If you're just getting, you're like, look,
I don't give They were.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Handed shade of things that they couldn't talk about and
stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Oh really, so they're like, don't talk about anything that's
against us, So don't say about I don't like cool rock,
don't be like Israel not pretty nice?

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Pretty good?

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Right? Yeah? But sure there's like but they're the same
constantly be giving it our this is gonna be un
we don't in the realm, but this but that's no.
But like do you know where they'd be saying, like,
you have to be free to talk about Rogan does
exactly the free spage SI. Yeah, but then but there's
a price to space. Like, don't get me wrong, I
get it if you're a fat lad who needs to

(24:15):
make money and blah blah blah the names that I
heard that went there.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
The stadiums like he doesn't.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, it doesn't, That's what I mean. Doesn't really sound
like he needs to make a whole lot of money and.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Be bars that I got cranky. I don't like the
History podcast, but I got cranky on the History Podcast
the last time many family members he had.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah, I keep my personal personal. Well, if you pay
me fifty thousand dollars right now, I'll talk about all
my brothers and sisters. Yeah, no problem.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
No, it's it's silly. But my tech way ultimately is
with all of this stuff is stand up comedy has
been kind of backdoored in as this kind of elevated
sort of rot form because of jar Organ. Yeah, and
to be honest, anytime that I've watched all the the
stand up comics that have been on wrong and most
of them, I'll be honest with you. I watched their
specials on Netflix, and I go, this is fucking ship.

(25:06):
Most of most of the lads are funnier on podcasts.
Most of their stand up specials are fucking tripe. And
I create an artificial economy because that's what was making money.
So like the like the Netflix was getting views from
podcast fans checking out specials, but it wasn't based on
mag it was back towards talent and a little.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Bit disappointing to your point, Yeah, because there's like I
don't get me wrong, I enjoyed stand up and all
the rest of it, but the off the cuff to me,
just to.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Me personally, it is always funnier. Was about to say
love it, and I was like, great, I can't watch
turn on Netflix. Crystalia before he turned sinister.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
His stand up was fairly poor, very poor.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
And I just listen, look who might criticize I'd get
up and I do a worst job. But I'm just saying.
I'm just saying that personally and in my test. A
lot of them as podcast.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
But they do make it sound like stand up is
like to you are going some sort of mystical where
you have to go into a forest and find a
ferret that's stressed. Who fucking gives you the wisdom joke?

Speaker 3 (26:10):
It was back door by Rogan's podcast, and that's fair.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
And look, of course I watched the dos to Stand
Up probably right off the back of Rogan's podcast until
relative one. Relatively recently, I mean like the last year
or so. I just haven't really been listening to that podcast.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Stand up comedy is shite. There's some good stuff out there,
and it's also a way funnier in Parson like and
that's actually energy in the room.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Yeah, part of that, like live music always sounds shite
on YouTube, but if you go to a gig, you
have a great Exactly.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
J Rogan literally humps Stills.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Who obviously had watched it back too. He respected, was like,
it's like, you know that fucking just the lowest comedy
nominated comedy. We're just pretending to hump and just like,
oh yeah, it just he goes like sometimes though you
have to, like maybe I can't, but it's some fella
like a really like a respected comic, and he obviously

(27:10):
just hasn't watched Eddio Joe's stuff.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
And listen, listen, I love all of them. I'm timeful
for Rogan. I listened to a lot of organ true
out there, introduced to a lot of Grecus, and enjoyed
him as a person many times as well over the years.
But standing up comedy is just not for me, you know,
I think that's it.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yeah, I don't love it, like and and you know,
we've been around the Dublin scene the stand up comedy
a small.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
Amount, and to be honest, I liked most of that,
you know.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
But there was still there was this energy of like
I felt them. I felt kind of like you're in
just a book of lobsters. There did have. There was
like a kind and you see it like in the
band scene as well a lot of times, especially trying
to get one over on Yeah, and they're like their
ship like or their which is.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Why you have comics under stand outs to Saudi Arabia
because they're looking at it. If I don't, someone else
is going to go and there want to get back.
I need to go and get the battle.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
They're they're they're making the assumption that they go to
Saudi Arabia and like it's a popular thing to do,
do you know what I mean? Whereas now like you're
one that should be gay. I go to Saudi Arabia
and then get such a backlash fire heads that you
have to give all the Arabia two load engage like
that's that's funnier than any set up joke that they

(28:23):
have made.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
Probably No, it's like I probably do.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
And then they have to come out of this fucking
garbage like apology that they don't believe in and we
don't believe in and it's all garbage. And I'd be
the first to say it again if the fucking the
fucking Prince of Abu Dab said I'll give you a
million before and can, I'd be totally as I don't
like any of the ship they do, but they're giving
me a million euro. I don't have to stone any

(28:48):
gay guys. I don't have to do any of the
horrible stuff they do. But me not going over makes
no difference to anything in the world. And when I
come back to the to the place with Western values,
I will then talk about how I think that the
gays are great and the trends are good, and the lesbians.
I wish him well. I want everyone to be happy.
I don't believe in their culture, but they gave me
a million euro to talk to Rob on a stage

(29:08):
and I tooke it.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Bar should have come out and went like, you know what,
pilot and helicopters is a hobby is mad.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Expensive, So that would have been the best thing. It
look like, be honest with you. Yeah, another kid on
the way, and I need to put all these kids
to Ivy League colleges. He was thinking that I'd be
making loads of money, but actually here's my fucking heating
bill for me giant house.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
And I really like Bar, Like, I like how I
like a lot of stuff, but when you can't call
over your own hypocrisy.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
But I think that I feel like he would like
like if someone put it to him, he would say like, yeah, look,
they offered me a load of money and I took it.
Like he seems like the kind of character I could
be way wrong. Never met that man who knows We
don't know, but you would assume that because he does
even like what he's jeering. Yeah other comics, like he
stared at him.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Stand up is a bit like absurd, like because like
these guys, like the actual act of the is like
it's it's like this insecurity thing almost where they're kind
of vying for your approval on the stage where they're
trying to figure out how to get that in the
best way, and there's this whole weird like no one
likes me, people like me. No one likes me people
like me, and they're trying to get that from you,

(30:15):
and it's like this to war. They're not like multiple
times a week. It's a strange thing.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
It's a commendable thing in a sense because like it
is pple heart and actually new soldiers, actually wise soldiers.
But like yeah, yeah, like crypt crypt, That's the thing,

(30:47):
isn't it. It's like it is commendable in a sense
to like I don't care how many people actively boom me.
I'm going to keep trying.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
But it's a bit unhinged.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
It is a bit unhinged because I tell you one
thing from playing gigs as a kid, there was a
few gigs you play where people just shut the fuck
up as you're playing, like the energy is not there.
They don't want to be there, they don't really want
to be there. You're just sucking there playing shitty covers.
Like if you ever go on a Sunday afternoon and
there's a lad with an acoustic gar guitar and he's
just fucking like Jess, you look on no one cares

(31:23):
and they're paying him one hundred yoo or whatever, like
he's making money and there's like a financial of that.
You don't make ship doing an open micael and just
getting jeered for being a.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
No. It's a strange thing. Yeah, it's crazy, it is.
But look, thirty minutes later, are we going to do it?
Because I feel like we're on the title, but we
have we can.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Get through can feels like a massive bait and switch.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
It is.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
It's like a massive like.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
We're like, oh, by the way, in July, are you
during the US.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
A congressional hear like, I feel like we should leave
this one for next ye just talk And that's just
that's just how we're in democracy. We're we're not like
real so like we can we can come to we
can negotiate, and we can come to an agreement that's reasonable. Fair.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Now we'll talk about general We'll talk about general things because.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Just all mini fuzzs now, I think.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Yeah, I think, like truly, I believe that, you know,
a lot of great things came from Rogland having a podcast.
I always thought actually to and this goes back to
so for our listeners that don't know, like I was
in the mm A long long time ago. As a
matter of fact, my brother interviewed MacGregor before McGregor was
even in. He was he was in. It wasn't before

(32:47):
McGregor was not a different direction, so he wasn't even
in like he was. It was way before his UFC stuff. Like,
but we were big in time back in the day.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
And remember you got me into m M A because yeah,
you're playing the video game and they're like, oh, look
at this reality TV show and I was like, that
was pretty good. And then I just wound up watching
the pay per views.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
Yeah, Fario, And so at the time obviously had the
pipeline while you get into the UFCA, there's your organ
on that. And then someone had said, you know that
your Rogan he has this your Color podcast or he
was on Fair Factor, and you go, oh, yeah, he
has this your Color podcast. Actually he's done, and you

(33:29):
log on. It was kind of like I think, I
don't know whether he was on justin TV at the
time or whether it was like a webcam Lie, I
can't remember. And at the time, yeah, and at the
time I watched literally would have shown in the fifteenth
naments like I would have been on podcasts. I was
on podcasts before Gordle. So like my first podcast that
I was guested on, it was twenty eleven, something like that,

(33:53):
something like that, twenty eleven, I think that's the best. Yeah,
four years before.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yeah, well you've four or six years before.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Yeah, it was the knockout podcast is now but n
all and k n o q o ut And it
was a guy. It was hosted by a guy, and
this was why how have my opinions on how long
they have been the way they are? He's from New York,
Archer and Kevo. It was the two hosts, and the
boys were actually really good in the ahead of their time.

(34:23):
And to be honest, it was a really good little
tall like I remember before we went on because I
had an MS at the time. Israel and Palestine were
kicking off at the time as they were as they
have to do, and I think I must have been
we must have been chatting somehow. It must have come
up in conversation. I don't know how it turns out.
He's his ions Jew and so I was obviously fairly

(34:46):
like any of that. So before we went on there,
we were basically like, yeah, let's just agree to disagree
and get on with this, and let's just agree. I agree.
I know I went on there, but but at the time,
what I'm getting to is like podcasts and was this
kind of weird, very niche radio thing, and Rogan was

(35:10):
this thing that everyone was kind of like into and
it was.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Really like back then to have something that was three
hours long, yeah, totally open forum conversation with really interesting.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
People, funny people and funny people.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
But not and then you would have the serious ones.
The reason I got into Rogan was because I used
to do Landscape and so you're eight hours out just
like fucking yeah. So like I would just list so
I download like two or three episodes of what it
was the same reason I got into Mysterious Universe and
other parastite the reason.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
I like podcasts, That's what I'm saying. So that's yeah.
So he introduced everyone to a genre, like a lot
of people, and off the back of that then I
think people went I think like because a lot of
times what used to happen was Joe Rogan would do
a comedy show the night before a UFC event wherever
the UFC was.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it was always the USC.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Fans went to see Rogan. So I actually, in a
way kind of look at it like the UFC really
helped Rogan's comedy profile, and then the podcast really helped
this comedy profile as well. I actually think that Rogan
is a really good example of someone who became a
way bigger celebrity by a couple of different ways. I
don't think it was ever his stand up comedy that

(36:23):
got him.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
He started at like what was it TV show and
the guy the Man chow Man Show. Yeah, and he
was on like Mad a couple of times and stuff
like that. But again, look credit to him, man, he
di wied at all him like do you know what
I mean? That's a very self starting I think some
sort of a deal with whatever place. You know. I
really liked it, And to be fair, I really liked

(36:49):
Joe as a person back in the day. And I'm
sure if I was just to sit down and have
a couple of copy with him now, I'd have a
good conversation. It's just in recent years it seems like
everything has gone into this sort of it's all like
fucking the Democrats and this and that, and it just
all turned into COVID, the Democrats, this to that, and
no matter who was on the podcast, they'd just be
talking about how COVID And after a while it's just like,

(37:11):
and look, the man's nearly sixty, Like, do you know
what I mean? Like, so I'm not saying that he
and I still I would listen to it now and
then it's interesting. I think he's a good interviewer when
he's not on that stuff. But like, and I did
really enjoy it back in the day, and I can
see why a lot of people were what's the right
word taken in deep by Joe, like the lads who

(37:32):
were getting tattoos on the back of their.

Speaker 5 (37:33):
Cabs, his face with the third eye and all that.
It exposed a lot of people to a lot of
ideas interesting. Yeah, it would never have been exposed to otherwise.
That's what that was. What was really valuable about Joe
rogan Man. A lot of people don't give him enough
credit for that, is Like, I think he did change
is like geist in a lot of ways, and I
think that for better for warcicag, Like he introduced the

(37:56):
world to the likes of Jordan Paterson, and already, like
Rayam Hanko.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
It's funny that you say that, right, because Jordan Peterson,
I think, is another good example of someone who started
out there was obviously controverserity, controversy beside the C. Sixteen bill,
and it was more of a freedom of speech thing.
Was what he was saying in the trans thing, and
blah blah blah. That's fine. But actually there was a
lot of stuff in the early days of Jordan Peter

(38:22):
and Peterson that seemed valuable. You know, as Jordan went on,
it just became up yours, you know, like it. It
became very like he became angry and bittered, and it's
almost like that got in the way of this earlier message,
which is really about taking responsibly for what you can
and sort of owning your burden. But I do think

(38:44):
that maybe, and I didn't realize that at the time,
but as I look back, I wonder he seems like
a compassionate person when he's on his form and he's
not agitated, he seems like a good person. And from
what I've read, students who used to be in his class,
they would say the same thing. But as he got older,
he was just it felt like the same thing as Rogan.
They were attacked and maybe by left wing media, and

(39:08):
that just turned them into really galvanize it because now
the Jordan Peterson is just you know, I know, he
just always seems angry, Like she say, the thing was
having the argument with the atheists and they're like, are
you Christians? Like, well, it depends what you mean by Christians,
Like for a guy who hates postmodernism, why can't you
say what anything is? You know? And then he's like

(39:29):
he's like, oh, the trans agenda is very bad, which
is ironic because I'm something of a bitch myself, Like
I'm joking, but it's just I don't know, it just
it it's almost like they were driven by some sort
of an algorithm.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
Yeah, exactly. And there's just there's just so many weird
things up there with all of that, and it's such
a it's such a broad and kind of all over
the shop thing. But I think with Rogan, then I
think that when he saw like I think millions of
millions and millions of people started to tune in and
Joe was a kingmaker.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
And so and he still has a sycophantic.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Yeah, and saw all of these stand ups for the
world was getting ex balls to them, and because we
all liked job, we were like, oh great, and these
guys have come on and they're funny, and you're like, brilliant.
I want to check out their pod that we've benefited
out of that in the past and other pods and stuff.
And then you go and you check them out and
you're like, oh great, these are really funny dudes, like

(40:28):
and older stand up comics as well, right, cool whatever.
But then yeah, I started to watching all these lads
and I'm like Jesus tonight, like, but I'm not a
huge stand up guy anywhere, really, Like I don't. I
never ever really was into I do a comedy.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Style of it would be the same as you. There's
bits I'd like to stand up a lot more when
I was more into Rogan.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
And more into the British side of it, Like if
I was into I like a lot of the Like
there's a lot of Irish and British comics that I'd
be into, and I think they're different things. I think
they're very different. I think this is a different style
of comedy. But no, I was never into it, really,
I was never again. I think it is a very
energy in the room thing. I think you have to

(41:11):
be in the room. Yeah, and in the room, like
I was talking about on the Patreon I wassode I recorded,
Like me and Gordon met Demo Clark for the first
time together. And he's the Australian guy. He's been on
Gordla's podcast a few times. Australian. He lives over here
Vietnam like and funny fucker, like really funny guy. And

(41:32):
me and Gordon met him at one night we were
out in the comedy shows, me and someone I can't remember,
but like we got chatting him after I was like
manfest or whatever whatever, But he was really funny. But
it was you know, I know, I've never seen him tap,
so I don't know, but the energy in the room
was very much like that you just laughing.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
It is funny as well, because that's the same energy
that turns into a crowded year and yeah, and so
it's volatile and you're going especially in open mics when
you're coming up, you know, no different to being in
this spot when bands used to play. You're going from
one band to a different band, two different band and
they have their little groups to go out and see
him and all the rest of it. And there's a
lot of bias in those rooms. So yeah, for people

(42:10):
to come up through.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
It, I think to say that. So again, I talked
about it on page on a bit, But did you
see what's going on with you or what? No?

Speaker 2 (42:17):
I did that. He he he was trying to tape
a special and he was saying it wasn't really landing properly,
and then he says something at the end of it,
like makes a reference to top of himself, and people
are like, and he's just trying to explain that away.
But like when I saw the thing, I was like,
this doesn't seem like a huge deal. This seems like
something that anyone would say in the same situation.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Yeah, Like, but it's really darkly because it's like, you know,
this is a guy that like this should be his
bread and butter, like, and he's taping a two nights
special or whatever, usually with the specialist to do the
two nights so that they have.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
To get the proper cut edit it through.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
But apparently, like because I had read on Reddit as
it happened, someone was like, oh, I was at the
last night and the fucking bombed bad, like like we
have to walk out halfway through.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Yeah, he said there was something people walking out on
the second night or whatever.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
No, this was the first night.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
This is the first night.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
This was like we had the goal, like like it
was that bad that people were getting a halfway through.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
But you know, do you know what's kind of interesting
as well, like and it goes into that sort of
the amount of visibility. We have a celebrity that probably
that I would imagine that's a very normal thing to happen.
Not normal, but it happens.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
Yeah, it wouldn't be normal probably for someone like him
that way. He was a professional tape and special.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
So we went to Tommy Tyne and when he was
taking the professor, we got free tickets. This is way
back before we even went to Canada, right, so this
is like what fifteen years ago something like that, fifteen
years ago. And I know the energy was good there
and it was fun, but they have to redo the jokes.
They have to do this or tweak this. And Tommy's
kind of coming out and kind of getting your energy

(43:54):
up and then going back in and you have like
an MC guy who's doing it. So I can see
how it could slip, and especially and again not knowing
about the one, but he seems like a kind of
a character. He seems much not that he is vulnerable,
but he's he's more comfortable being vulnerable, I suppose. So
he gives you an insight into maybe how his own

(44:14):
thoughts turn on him. And I can imagine if you're
doing a special and I'm sure there was again this
is fifteen years ago. I went to this type or
Tommy Tiern is this thing, and I'm sure there was
a couple of jokes. Maybe it wasn't a quiet thing,
but you don't get as big a laugh as you're anticipating.
Maybe that just got in his way and then he
kind of did it. And then at the end of it,
I know he says that thing, but like I've heard
lots of my friends say stuff like that, joking around

(44:38):
when something doesn't Certainly when we were younger, it didn't
look like he was walking though, and like for so
true that's true as well. But he did say afterwards,
he's like, look, I'm not going to do any of that.
It's just I think he was probably just a bit
shook as well, because you can imagine he's full of adrenaline.
He's like that really fucking go my way. And then
you're just like, what's what's the joke that you would

(44:58):
reach for? Oh yeah, well I am probably gonna have
to go home now, and you know, see how strong.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
I don't think that's I think he was just being
vulnerable and saying like, I've had awful time, because I
think there's been implications that he's really absolutely as well.
Really yeah, it was a really bad time.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Maybe he did say I just saw him and he's
a statement and he was like, look, there's no problem
about that. But of course, like you're probably gonna say
that anyway, but I don't want to put out there
that the man's fucking you know, but we're not really
putting it.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Out Well, he said what he said, like not but
I have heard.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Like even going off. But he's of mine who would
have done stand them in the past, but they would
have said the similar things. But but again that's when you.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
But that didn't look like that thought that was. It
looked like he was in the weeds.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Like we're getting we're doing a bit rand of zones.
Now we're like we saw the video and now like
I know he had a bad yeah, and I know,
and it's it's it's the thing that when you say that,
you're kind of like, well, you can't really get much
darker than that, And we're even not saying it, but
I don't even know why you're not saying. He said
I'm gonna go home himself, he obviously didn't. I can

(46:02):
see why you'd say it as a joke.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
But he also said like I'm having a really bad time,
Like he didn't just say it like haha, I'm after
I'm not. Yeah, Like I'm.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Pretty sure people talk about him relapsed and recently.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Yeah, I think he's. I think there was his conversations
recently he's had on the powder where like people like
he hasn't expressed that a sober anymore kind of he's
kind of said that he's he's kind of alluded to
but hard to know really too much. But I think
what I was going to get to with all this,
where I'm gone with all this is it's not all negatively,
it's not all shipping on these people. No, it's not

(46:36):
all What I'm trying to say is, right, there's just
a thing called a live podcasts, right that these people
it's their profession. It's his profession. Brendon Chab, who is
a wafful stand up comic, it's his profession. Crystal LEAs profession.
Stop LARPing as comedians because it's not working out very well.

(46:58):
Do the fucking power cast, make your money, do your
tours to all of it. Now. Look, I shouldn't be
really lumping in Crystal and the Ovama Brendan Schab, but
like Brendan Schab should be doing stand up live podcasts.
He should never have done stand up ever. He should
have done live podcasts because we've done live podcast He

(47:19):
has a huge podcast audience right. All he has to
do is show up the shawls of Brian Callen and
they can have fun to the race. They can have
the laugh, they can have the crack and he gets
that kick out of the stand up he makes. He's
making people laugh on stage and he can go home
at night. No one's going to be trying to fucking
bully him. I was going to be trying to tear
him down. No one's going to say.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
It's like as well, yes, but he because he was
when he was first on Rogan, he was quite funny.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
Adam Chandler.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
No, for sure, absolutely, but when you're only listening to
a lad shot, that's pretty funny. And I think, like
I said, like Acre is too fast, too close. But
then the other thing with him, it's like what you
said about readding all the rest of it. It turns
out he like there's all this stuff behind the scenes
where now I guess people who can identify with their

(48:10):
feel as if that parasocial relationship is there. They start
hearing all this other ship and they're like, WHOA, what
the fuck or that like? And I don't even know,
but it seems like the Fighter and the kids, so
it is just fore of people who hate the Fighter
and the kid. Like it was pretty bizarre. It's hilarious.
It's actually like that ship is way funnier.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
Than Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
I was like doing a thing where they're talking and
I don't. I don't look at their podcast.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
I don't like, and I've like, I don't know the
two boys whatever. Of course I don't. But they're in
a garage and Brian's given out that he can smell
the gas from from Red's care and he's like he's like,
oh yeah, and they're just saying they have so little
money now they're dying of garbon monoxide. And then lads
are trying to break down the figures of like how

(48:54):
much money they make, and they're like they must be
in the red, like from doing the podcast.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
It's bizarre, But that's what I'm saying, Like, that's what
is really bizarre. You and I are podcasters. We understand
like the money to a degree that can be made,
and we have a fair grasp of what they're making,
I would say, or at least yeah, I will do,
and as well with the shows that are selling out,
I will do.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
And decently.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
Yeah, And so lads stop all the ship, like just
do your live podcasts and people love you for that
as well, Like when I would actually hearzon Fia and
I actually go on record and say I would wear
rather say to do a stand up podcast than I
would see him do a stand up comedy show like
I would much. But you see the problem with you
is his style maybe doesn't translate super well to a

(49:42):
pack to a live podcast as such, because it's very
kind of just shat kind of but maybe a hybrid shot.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Have you gone to many like live podcasts show?

Speaker 3 (49:54):
I think that was present for that.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
I think we were both kind of in the ether.
We're taking them. Yeah, oh Benzo cnyclothe, Like I saw
stuff you should know. I used to really like. Not
that it got bad, I just stopped listening to it
a while ago, but I really enjoyed that I went

(50:19):
to see. I went my sister before I went to Canada.
We went to see like a Kevin Smith podcast one
because we grew up watching those movies and I didn't
know that i'd be coming back from Canada and blah
blah blah. So it was kind of a good boy thing.
And I think I might have seen one or two
other ones, like I can't remember off the top of
my head. Well, Like, it's an interesting experience. The energy
is different because listening to a podcast is a very

(50:43):
passive thing, so when you bring it into like a
live venue, it becomes more of an active thing and
you're sort of actively listening. Your drinking, you're chatting, but
you're also listening. It's a it's a weird vibe. And again,
like the one we did was so small, you could
just shout ship out. It would be you know, funny
and take it. But it would have been interesting imagine
we'd done that and we just got we just was

(51:05):
ripped apart by the crowd, like.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
We went, we had a really good live show. We
don't want the one again.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Yeah it's done. We made fifty euro from that live show.
So just even to go into and that that place
looked full. That like they're not sold out. That basically
the part of the floor that's between us and the ground,
which is the distance of from here to the wall,
which it was.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
The I was talking again, I was talking about them
Pere Ram but the that was more on us and
the selection of venue. But that was also part of
the like it's you learn as you ays. But again
that shows you, like you know, lads like as Level
and those guys like they could make serious bank doing
life podcasts like.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
About if you if you think they did a tour
and just went too small again depends how much like
for them, it didn't cost us a lot. Usually these
places have.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
Their own it's all fairly straight forward.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Like you show, if you just did small little clubs,
you could make a couple of grand Again, I don't
know how much what sell like if.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
They Okay Harry set out the three arena Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Yeah, easily and at the very least you set out
the Olympia, yeah, or thesty.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
So or something like that, like you've got but.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
I wonder what that costs to like, like what can
you Let's say you sell out the three Arena and
now for a podcast. It's not like you have a
light show. That's the one thing I will say about
a podcast. You're not doing a two laser light show.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
I'd say probably like ten thousands of the minimum in
your pocket.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
After I'd say at a minimum, yeah, which is like,
so if you do a couple, then again, how much
do you need to make a year? Because if you
want to make one hundred thousand a year and you're
doing I don't know.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
Well, the three Arena is quite small. You could probably
do a couple of in England and in the States
bigger nights or whatever. Yeah, a couple. But like it's
I just think that when you look at sort of
the whole idolization of stand up comics, I think it
has actually come from directly from Joe Organ.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Yeah, I would read that.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
I think that we're now getting to a point where
people realize, like, and it's fine for this to be
a thing. Is like Okay, maybe these guys are vulnerable.
Maybe not all of them are really good stand up comics.
Maybe some of them are a better suit with the podcasts,
or some of them are better sit with the other reform.
It's like Joey dia As, for example, funniest motherfucker on
the podcast in the world.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Like stand up is just stories, though Lucy Bush.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
When I heard that Lucy Snorbush story for the first time,
I or organ, I fucking died. Like I've listened to
that story about three or four times, or maybe it
was on your Mom saftually talked about Lucy Snarbush. He
had another story on fucking your mom's house one time,
and it is so fucking funny, and like then I
put on a stand up I was like, oh, yikes,

(53:45):
this is not and I'm like, this is the funniest
motherfucker in the room if you put him in a But.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
It kind of makes sense because like the funniest comedians
generally speaking, it's in a social setting and they just
have everyone doubled over laughing. Like but just think of
our friends who do so number they were way funny
or just sitting around us making fun of everything than
they were on stage, it's the same.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
Because it's rehearsed, I think it loses.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
Loses the authenticity, not that it isn't authentic, like it's
obviously rehearsed. Yeah, it's like when you jam out with
someone and like you feel the energy of making a
new song.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
Improv can be funny.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Then I think because of the capacity for it to
go somewhere, it kind of makes it more interesting.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
I was never into improvator all. Like I remember when
we were kids, and like Gorda used to be, I
used to be watching fucking who was lying something, and
I used to be just thinking this is bullshits.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Parts of it, like, but it's when when they hit
properly into it, then you're like, oh yeah, class. But
it's kind of like improv jazz. You got to listen
to a lot of stuff that's hard to listen to,
but then you hit those gems and it's like.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Very got all that, Like he was really gonna improv
really gotta just like into the comedy of like it
was very good as well well learned inhearsed in the two,
whereas I don't know, I don't know what kind of
humor I'm into a crueler wicked humor or something, but
Lucy Snorbush and also funny like.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
That, remember that, what's the gist of that story?

Speaker 3 (55:18):
There's a couple I'm trying to I'm getting them mixed up,
but there's one where he was at someone with like
a wooden leg or something but actually had him half
like I don't know, but yeah, it's just really funny
fucking stories.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Like I can't even.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
Remember Lucy Snowball story anymore, but it's just at the
time that was like to me, like all an edge podcasting, right,
there was like some really funny ship. Like I think
the art form is just kind of change now, but
you know, it's still in its own different ways. But like, yeah,
I think, you know, I think that's I think God
loves them. I think that there was a big bubble

(55:57):
and I think that bubble is gone. I think it's
for fully gone, but it's for comics. Like I think
that I think that comedy like golden era of comedy
podcast Rogan's where all of that stuff that's kind of
starting to dissipate.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
But I know, I know that Rogan's obviously very high
in the podcast charge, but I feel like there's not
as many people listening to it anymore, like I think
it hemorrhaged a lot of it.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
No, I think he's probably still near top, but I
think there's probably less people in general listen to podcasts,
so podcasts as a media are not as popular anymore.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
That's kind of I think I thought that people generally.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
I think it's all like compared to Call of It.
I don't think there's half as many people listen to
the podcast anymore, like people. It's weird though, like Ireland
is an action of radio alivers like still like people.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
I think, like I've always liked just talk radio. Even
when I was a kid, I used to such Yeah, yeah,
there's something about talk radio that I liked. And I
remember even when I had GTA Vice City, I would
just put on Laslow.

Speaker 7 (56:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
I just used to like listening to that. I just
used to like and then when I heard it all
I was like a ship. But I like, I just
liked listening to people talking. I always have.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
I like late night radio, you know, I just turn
or one of them late night. There's just something talking
to their mic.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
And it's like the way that they shouldn't talk because
the only people listen who are driving around. They need
they need to like stay awake. But no, yeah, I yeah,
I always like that. I think there's something real fun
about just like just listening to someone who's entertaining you
in some way or another.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
That's but that's the thing with night radio is not
necessarily entertaining.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
But winding down.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
Yea, the vibe.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
I listened to podcast going to sleep, Like, yeah, so
I'll put like ear blog in my earphone in my
ear and just listen to stuff. And I listened to
like something spooky or something I had to kind of
stop listening to, got into like political stuff. Yeah, but
it's just too miserable.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
Yeah, I think, I think, and I'm the same, Like,
if you don't want to talk about it, like if
you're not wanting to put skin in the game in
some much shape or form, I think you're better off
just not consuming a lot of the time because unless
you're like an active commentator, you're like, I mean, look,
it's great to be informed, but I think probably a
lot of the time consuming the shit does more harmon

(58:12):
than gold because it's like there's there's like I like
standing forms of politics, and to be fair, I'm lucky
and that doesn't bother me too much generally speaking, But like,
I think what bugs may is that there's all these agitators,
there's all these commentators, and they're not really doing anything.
They're just talking. We see.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
The problem is you have a lot of people who
have the same understanding of politics as we do. We
would say, I think fairly of each other, that we
shouldn't be talking or.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
Or we should be taken our opinions exactly.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
They shouldn't be taken seriously. And that's the thing that like,
you know, because you wouldn't want anyone to listen back
to it ten years later and kind of what the
fuck yeah you want, which I'm sure they will like obviously,
you know, half the time we don't know what we're
talking about, saying, we're just having the crew, but that's
the point of this podcast. And if we want to
have an opinion, and if the opinion is fucking, you know, uneducated,

(59:04):
we're kind of going, oh, yeah, hand up. I loan that, like,
because we're not trying to do that to do something serious.
But then you hear sometimes like I've tried to listen
and I'm probably maybe naive or gullible in my own way,
because I listened to someone talk about something and I'm going, like,
that makes a lot of sense. And then I'll purposely
listen to someone say the opposite and I go, well,

(59:24):
that makes a lot of sense too, and then I
kind of go, oh, this is how lads get like
fish lined, because they just listen to the one side
constant and it all makes sense and they're going, oh yeah, yeah.
But when you actually start to look at both sides,
you're going, well, there's a bit of truth and this
and a bit of truth in that. But because you're
polarizeder saying the other side are all X, Y or Z,
they're all fucking this or that, the other lot.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
Is constantly have an opinion on what they're talking about
in the forest place.

Speaker 4 (59:49):
Yeah, crypt a crypt It's like your fucking sixty sixty
or seven year old land suddenly has an opinion on
like the education system and.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
They've had no idea before. Like, but that's the thing
as well, and that's what's happening, is like people like
outside the library and they're like, you fucking better not
put this book in the library, Like, go, what book
is it?

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Not have any of us read it, so none of
you have gone on to Amazon to order the book
to try to understand like what's actually But also.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
Let's burn down libraries because that historically goes pretty well. Yeaheah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
You know when you're burning down libraries, like the Library
of Alexandra, it was taking up space.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
I believe is has practice stat there for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Why would what's what's the what's.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
Isis are just like fucking destroying the facts at just
sort of crack, just for fun. They're like, yeah, there's
just like a thousand year old fucking things. They're just
like hammering them with fucking slice hammers, like fuck your
Babylonian jog.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
But it is funny. The only reason to destroy a
library is because you're afraid of what people will read.
Why are you afraid of what people read? Because you're
afraid of the ideas that will give them and their
autonomous decisions. They don't get me wrong. I do understand
if lads, literally, if there's pornography the children at the school,
you'd have to have a thing that probably shouldn't of course,

(01:01:13):
of course, but you also have to get your hands
on that book. And because there is an argument to say,
kids are going to learn about this ship in school
anyway by their peers. Should there be a way of
educating them that is reasonable? Yeah, about reading the book.
You can't really start fucking pickting outside library. I haven't
read the book, so maybe it is completely shouldn't be

(01:01:34):
in school. I don't know, but I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
There's also a bit like Rabbit and the Hack kind
of trickering on on where it's like all this internet
discourse is about like fucking what's in these books and
whatever whatever? I mean, oilers and eleven. You're all your
young lad watching some chicken and railed and porn site and.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Like I don't talk about like talking about you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
Talk about the Pride flag there in the back of
a textbook or something, and then the young lad is
like watching, like fucking ask them out for he's life.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
I can't wait to try this and thinking it's normal.
I saw a thing the other day, the Jurassic part
of cartoon camp Chaos or whatever. Sorry, I bought my nephew.
I bought my nephew dinosaur, and it was it was
called the camp on the dinosaur that might be chaos, No,

(01:02:27):
the so the thing was like it was was Jesus,
I forgot what.

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
I started saying, dinosaurs, you're talking about one's getting.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
I was trying, oh yeah, sorry, there we got one
is getting railed. It's back. So the two teenage girls
kiss as they're like realizing they're gay or and people
were like, that's yeah, exactly, that should be man And
I was just like in every fucking kids show forever,
guy who's kissing the girl, the guy with the crush

(01:02:57):
on the girl, the girl with the crush on the guy,
Like like it's such a ridiculous point of view to
have that, Like, oh yeah, I just want to pretend
to my children that gay doesn't exist in case they
turn out to be gay. It may I can't.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
Yeah, is it better? Here's a question, then, is it
better to have that in or to have his or
romance tall and any of these shows? I think, like, Pete,
what would you think? I would say it's.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
Better to have that in and be representative, right.

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
I want to think, II lean more towards have.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
None of it in. I think you should either have
or have no. No to be fair camp crustaceous or whatever,
crustaceans whatever it's called, Like like that TV show it's
kind of a combination of like older kids watching it.
I guess, you know, I could see people who are

(01:03:49):
like fourteen, yeah you know, yeah, shamefully watching camera crestaceous.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
Well yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
It's like it's like a so I think if you're
going to have girls kissing guys are that thing, then
you should have garleskus and girls or guys kissing guys
or whatever. I suppose I have none of it, which
is fair if it's if you feel like it's a
bit too. But I feel like, let's say you're portraying
a family in a kid's TV show and the husband
and the wife are there, it gives you a case
on the cheap before he goes. Then I don't think

(01:04:16):
there's probably and having a husband and a husband or
a wife and wife do the same.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
Yeah, you know I I ultimately I suppose I agree.
I'm trying trying to kind of play Devil's advocate. I'm
kinda so you see, I kind of got my view
as well with a lot of this stuff like pre
twelve years old, pre purebred and all that. I'm like,
there shouldn't really be anything or or like or like
even and I know, like there's a lot of people
that listen that are gay, and they'll tell me, well,

(01:04:41):
I was gay before I was twelve, and so yeah,
like I I I thought that way all the time,
Like it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
Just's just representation. So let's say we grew up watching
The Spider Man ninety nine before animated cartoon, and him
and Mary Jane have a thing. Now, he's never pulling
out last minute, so you can blast on Mary Jane
elvis or whatever. I remember that episode.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
It was pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
It's pretty innocent, and him and Mary Jane is in
some sort of a gender driven like he's Spider Man.
There's this girly likes I feel like you should be
able to have and I can. As I'm saying it,
there is a part of me that's going that will
never work. Like not because I think it's about it
either because people would be up in arms if Peter Parker.

(01:05:28):
I wouldn't say Peter Packer have to be a new
superhero because you can't just make him day, because that's
fucking stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
They will there's gonna be.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
Swinger in New York and just do like all the
Speter Packer's now seventy five swinger around New York in
his wheelchair.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
There is to be fair Like Marvil is an easy
one to lampigone for that, because that's what Marvel has
always been that so many Marvel have always been about
the down trodden. Before we had your translate, that all existed.
But before he had your trans' is not that like
Peter Parker was he was down? Yeah he was. Yeah,

(01:06:07):
but they see like they're like, yeah, here's Batman like
and heir's super Man.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
I bet they came up to wonder Woman and then
they were like, we're going to need to have like
some representation and they're like, what do we call them? Lightning? No?

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
Black? Well, no, that's like they but so Marvel like
sort of quote unquote what people men? And yeah, that
was always that was always going to be Marvel. I
was never going to be like, but the smallest people
are worried about that. Kids, you know, they're very malleable
when they're young. Their heads are sucking mush and then

(01:06:48):
when they do watch all this stuff, they're going to
be like, I'm get but ultimately, what is the harm
if they're not like because they surely won't be if not.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
Like worst case scenario, if you spend a few years
your teenage years and girls boys you're not sure what
you're into, and maybe the pendulum. So that is what
I mean, no big deal. The only thing I think
where it got pushed out too far is that when
they were sort of saying, oh, yeah, we should let
four year olds have but that's crazy, which is meant.

(01:07:16):
But I don't think. I don't. I think it's only
because the people who are in control push things out
that far, and that's why you have the likes of
all this hardcore right shit coming in, because that seems
to me and I would be happy to, you know,
be corrected if it turned out that like, oh yeah,
it turns out the data is in and every kid
that got that thing it was actually always the right choice,

(01:07:37):
then you'd be like, oh, brilliant, then that's the right
thing to do. Now we know that that probably wouldn't
stand the scrutiny, right. It doesn't seem to make sense
because we know the children don't have a realistic view
of things. They live in a bit of a fantasy.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
It's like not diagnosed borderline personality unless you're like, I
think it's like over eddying or nineteen because literally the
definition of borderline personality.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
Is like acting like a brat.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
What it's like, you don't have a personality.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
We have said in Trouble.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
It's no, it's not acting like a brat. It's that
you don't have a personality, fixed personality when you're a
teenage or so. It's not really it's not app to
diagno something.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Yeah, that's fair.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
So that's like, so that ties in well with Yeah,
I mean, you don't know, you're cantain. All the guards
were lizing off with each other like that was kind
of just like it's part of being a change a
lot of them.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
But it's experimentation. It's just you don't want to do
an experiment that there's no reversing. That's all that is.
But like you know, if you could look into a
crystal ball and every time the kid said, but that's
but this is a.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
Probably happened like once somewhere and like this was blown
out the person.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
From what I understand probably know. I think that this
was I think that this was like stuff. It was
like part of the what would you say? It was
part of the medical old process for a small time.
So the tava stock there was all things about that
where the kids were being put in there for.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
Various you know, mentalness.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
No, it was all for kind of trans stuff. And
then they did a review of it and they were like, oh,
this fucking isn't a good idea at all. They about
turned it. But for a small window that was happening now.
As I said, if you could look into a crystal
ball and your four year old was like, here, I
feel like I'm in the wrong body, blah blah blah,
and you knew that to give them the medication that
would change that, you would do it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
Of course, children, And.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
That's why you shouldn't do it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
That's why we're That's why we were like, listen, this
is part of the problem in modern day society is
that kids are listening to too much. Yeah, yeah, we're
giving too much ship.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
Well, you're right, But probably the biggest problem they have
now is watching women getting railed on the internet. Like
that's probably the big problem, but no one cares about that. Like,
but they would care. They'd be talking about net nanny.
If it turned out a load of young lads we're
watching fellows bomb, then it's too too. But if there's
something about like oh yeah, just like hardcore pornography. He's twelve, Irish.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
You wouldn't believe to carry on parents now. It is
the way that like all these groups are on, like
when they're sending their kids to school, and the way
to carry on and act like it's unreal. What do
you mean, Like the amount of contact that parents now
have to it's outrageous compared to our time when we
were like like we were sending to school, but you

(01:10:23):
were sending to school as a form of like punishment because.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
It was like an MK trying to figure out can
they turn your parents didn't like it?

Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
Or like what can we do to this boy in
the sectarian country.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Telling you every day you go home like you're a
little boy, and then you go to the school for
trans and you're like you can be whatever you like.
What the fuck is going on? That was like that
time in the eighties, that was what that was sectarian
psycho abuse.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
Of And I tell you one thing, my man, that
wouldn't dream to be going to the teacher like well,
if you don't this, and if you don't that with him,
and oh I suggest that you should do this with
this and all that, and there's so much, so much math.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
You know, there used to be less autism. That's getting better, ye, lads,
they used to It turns out the best way to
deal with autism is to beat it out of your children.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
It turns out if they go.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
To school, they get a lot of lockers throw sandwiches
at him. It's autism yours. And I say, those guys
are better for us.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
Probably I don't like me much anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
No, but look but yeah, but they could have been
super autistic and you bullied the autism out of them.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
Yeah, that is something that is a thing that people
don't like to talk about as well as that. Sometimes
people that get bullied are sucking annoying like that. So
people because no, yeah, because he always like there's a
there's a societal just worried about where this is going.

(01:12:00):
Closing was sometimes no, no, no. But sometimes it's like
a bad thing and there's a good raising it awful.
Sometimes there's annoying fuckers, and it can be like a
social thing in the second order where it's like you're
being a fucking moron, and if you want to hang
around with this group of people, you need to stop
being as much of a moron.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
I think there's that can't happen, Yeah, for sure, but
there is people. There's a terrible thing if going to school,
do you know what I mean? Like you're dreading going
to school because lads are just gonna harass you. So
I think that we have like there's inclusion. We need
to have the inclusion to make sure everyone respects everybody else,
because I think there's probably a lot less kids bullying

(01:12:40):
now than there was, which is really good. That's super
super valuable we need to have.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
I'm telling you, I remember again a load of my soul,
and I still feel bad for me. He was probably
only like nine, and it was like Jaws. They smelled
the blood in the water, like we everyone knew he
was gay. Like no, I was never involve and bodying him.
He wasn't in my class, but if he was, if however,

(01:13:05):
I might watch brother well, but I remember distinctly. I
still remember where it was like fucking Lord of the
Flies and lads were falling around the yard kicking off
the urse. Yeah and like proper whale and and I'm
like bend ship out of them.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
But they get they're just seeing something that's like have
some grown up still, yeahs terrible and you can give
a kid a pass because they don't know anybody.

Speaker 3 (01:13:31):
I seen, I seen lad, and there was a lot
of those like fucking far right, fucking English flag web motherfuckers,
and they're outside one of these drag provision centers. This
lad like this kind of normal looking dude. It's like
kind of maybe like yourself for yourself. He walks down
and he's just talking to the reports like ground and

(01:13:54):
they're like you now, they're not bothering anyone. I'm just
not hassle And all these protesters in the background screw
and Adam call him a nonsen everything, and then the
start chesting around like punching them and everything. But the
men instagether Lad, that wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
Yeah, but that's not surprising.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
You're you're not and your man like.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
But I heard that there was another fellow, and there's
obviously in big groups always going to be a few
of these. But the lad who was talking about like
they don't respect Western values and forty seven counts of
domestic Yeah, like, but is it it's not that surprising
when you see, first of all, why would you go
to a direct provision center to protest.

Speaker 3 (01:14:33):
Like they're they're not writing. But it's not even that.
But it's not even that, man. But it's like, if
you watch these lads, watch any of these lads to
go around to these protests, watch your fucking Charlie Beaches
and you're fucking and your bill is not, then listen
to the last talking. Just listen to them all fucking melts.
Yeah they're not well, but.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
They're all corrupted by the as that would have.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
Been kicked up the whole in school. Like you know
what I mean, they're not well people, Like they're not
like the Charlie Beach fellow. You watch him and you're like,
Jesus Christ, this one is like a fucking melt. Like
you wouldn't be able to talk to him in a room.
You'd be like, this fella is just saw annoying, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
He's just in a group of people online.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
You think, like he wakes up every day and goes like,
what I'm going to do today, in my totally rational,
same mind, is I'm going to go around filming people
and antagonize them and getting up in their face to
try and provoke you insane.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
But what we need is for we need for like
someone to go and talk to the immigrants and the
ones that are like and like get it like because
these lads are basically given their view of that. But
don't get me wrong. Look, we've talked about it before.
There are things about immigration which I'm sure they're not
being settled in properly, they're not being integrated. Yeah, yeah,

(01:15:41):
lots of issues with but that's not the immigrants problem.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
I wouldn't necessarily yeah, yeah, exactly, it's the past thing.
I wouldn't necessarily be pro immigration like I have, Like,
I have my views on it that are probably not
totally agreeable with with people that are ultra left and
are like on all this. Yeah, I already I have

(01:16:05):
odd's opinions with that, and I wouldn't agree with that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
So and I certainly would't believe in the lads being
like absolutely let the fuckers drown in ago container. Yeah,
I don't agree.

Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
With that, you know. But it's just like when you
watch these people, because most people are only ex balls
to like these like TikTok snippets of the video watch
that these guys are trying to get by antagonizing people,
But like when I actually watch them and listen to
them talking, they're like Jesus christ Man, like fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
And the problem is you have a couple of articulates
people like if you look at what even one of
the things that Reform government were saying recently in the
UK that they would just get rid of anyone who
didn't have the Yeah, but there's people who may not
have full citizenship who've been living in that country for
twenty years. All the fucking ice bullshit going on. I
am of the opinion that no, I think there must

(01:16:53):
be very few Americans that actually want lads who are
from Mexico or wherever, Guatemala, who were they are working
for twenty years, who have a family.

Speaker 3 (01:17:06):
I know Irish people, I know like I know Irish
people that have kids that are fully grown in America,
that have lived there their whole life and they're fully
a part of the community. But they are the same
people like that if they were to be caught now,
they're gone exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
So I know people, but that like I don't have them.
Ye have lived here in Ireland for and years and years.

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
I'm going to hand you all right now the ice.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
Yeah do ice and what we call it in Ireland
go ice, bry lots glass. But like, yeah, again, they're
not the people you want to remove. You don't want
people who are in your country contributing and doing.

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
There was a there was a documentary and about workers
in Ireland, like about the next generation, and there was
a Polish as mad as a back of spiders. But
he was saying like his company spread his company to be
able to best us roups basically, and he was like,
no one wants to sucking do it. He was like
saw May and my crowd who said, my dad has

(01:18:05):
come out from Poland. I hire them all said we
work forteen hour days. We do all the work that
people said, we techno breaks, we get up. We fucking
spread these as best us ruse and we call them
with a special thing. We developed this method of doing it.
So no one as wants to do what they said.
And war booming, sell our business.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
There's loads and sure you're seeing it even with the
farmers in America, so they have no one to fucking
do work now. But this is the thing like like
and the lads who are sucking at those protests given out,
who are probably I would wager a lot of them
doing the fucking bare minimum and.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
Just but all the protests and sure now, yeah, sure.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
If I said to my job, I can't come in today,
protest outside like you're fired, like for a lot of reasons,
you know not, but that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
But but even that goes down to things as simple
as like our fruit like yeah that controversies are like
COVID Mkheling's on the big fruit companies day day.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Fluent doing a lot of They do that every Apparently.

Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
That's the standard hiring.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
Because if you saw an ad and you were totally
down on your luck with no money and it said
pick strawberries. I did that once when I was fourteen,
and I did it even last the week, two days,
and I was like, this is garbage and it's not
worth my time. That's when I was fourteen and had
no money. How do you think I'm going to be
when I'm forty? Yeah, and I you know, you're you're
you're just And again that could be fucking poor reflection

(01:19:27):
in my character. But there's a lot of shit that
Irish people won't do. Go down to the fucking the
fast food place, go down here and there. It's not
Irish people.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
There's actually probably a good argument to be made that
having immigrants work those jobs and our society is actually
more beneficial to the native populations because it gives the
native population time and also opportunity to get jobs and
research and do college and get jobs higher up, because
otherwise there would be more positions to be filled at

(01:19:58):
the lore and you probably just going there.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
I went back to the immigrants company because they can
have kids here, the kids can be naturalized, then they'll
send them to college. They'll do like my fucking family
immigrated out to Canada, and there's no one waiting there
with the pitch for they are there except to fucking
get out of the barn or whatever. But like you know, again,
if it's all manageable and it's all working, that's fine.

(01:20:24):
When you're having a lot of lads living intense or this,
or people are worried about maybe some of the cultural
its own fit, I think you have to have conversations
about that and at least be honest about it and
have an.

Speaker 3 (01:20:33):
Open sustainable to have like ten villages, and it's not
it's also not sustainable to have like say, a very
male skilled immigration. But it's also as I've said before
on this pod, and like I said, do your research,
look into it, and there's a lot of conspiratorial minded
people that listen to this podcast, and I also know
there's a lot of people that won't agree with our
views to listen to this podcast, but do your research,

(01:20:55):
and like I said, look out where all these people
are coming from. As I've said it is, in my opinion,
partially and largely large makeup of it is actually a
sort of a destabilization pactic of a method of warfare.
Actually is what I think is happening right now, and
it's really effective.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
When they've talked before about the best way to fuck
up a country, to polarize it, and literally every fucking
Western country, and we can totally see it now. You
either have fire rice and everything is kind of fire left.
There's not fire left, but most of the parties are left.
In any other country, they'd be fire fire left, but
just centuries or whatever. But it is funny because like that,

(01:21:38):
like it's working. We're all fucking polarized. And I'm I
always try to be reasonable, try to be as reasonable
as I can be, and I'm sure I have many
blind spots in my own views.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
People don't want to hear it, but this is it exactly.
But like like we were probably annoying people with our
partner now.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
Yeah, because we're just saying like, well there's a bit
of truth.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
I need to go and kick lauds up the whole around,
discover a real you need to go on like kick
louts off bolts, like they want people more and more
now that we're getting screwed to, like I want to
consume this like really extreme war version of opinion on
the media that or on the platform that I digest
can't easy because it's just like easy, but it's mad.

(01:22:21):
Like YouTube does that with me is like you know,
you watch one fucking video like bench on the next.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
Time, I had to like I literally had to consciously
try to look at both sides because I was going
into the like from from the likes of say, just
listening to Rogan for years and he pushes you down
that other way and then that sort of gets a
little bit more extreme, not extreme to the point where
you're like on the KKK videos going like these boys.

Speaker 3 (01:22:45):
And you know what the big issue is though, is
that people on the fire left would think that you
are because you listen to you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
It doesn't, but it doesn't help when they just start saying.

Speaker 3 (01:22:53):
That's what I'm saying, yeah, and I can't listen to
your opinion.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
And that's and I think that's what pushes you as well,
because then they're saying when you're like a homophobic, nacy
person or whatever, like I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:23:03):
That's just again a lot of stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
You said it very well once when you said low
IQ high narcissism, and I was like, that's actually a
winning phrase.

Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
Not it is, but unfortunately there's a lot of it.
But like again, because we're not like a political podcast,
we don't have to deal with it too much, thankfully,
but it does. We are two people at the end
of the day. We have things that we listen to
and consume, much like you guys. You guys doesn't then
consume a lot of different stuff, and it is frustrating.
Its frustrating to say, it's disappointing to say. I think

(01:23:35):
I do think like it's also a bit boring when
there's sort of general consensus of that time. I think
that's probably what happened for too long, there wasn't enough challenge.
I think like Obama when he was in power for
probably like what eight years there, like, there probably wasn't
enough of a challenge to kind of I think that
that run and then who did they called after Obama twice?

(01:23:56):
It wasn't Trump, it wasn't straight into Trump was Obama. Obama.
Trump was Obama. So I think I think that's what
it was. Was like to the state of squall was
kept there for too long those years, and I think
there was something similar people getting annoyed, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
Yeah, and I think they went very hired after Trump left,
went hired into the left. Maybe, but I would say
they went too hard into the left. That's not to
say that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:23):
You said that. But then probably the most leftist candidate
in Bernie Sanders, I probably, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
But again he would have been my Canada as well.
But Bernie wasn't dealing with all the culture. He was saying,
that's money, people have an equality, and I think he
would have been open to like an honest conversation about.

Speaker 3 (01:24:43):
I think, and I think a lot of the culture
warbleshit is actually spot on because I think, like I
think that in a in a happy society, I truly
believe that most people don't give a flying fuck trans
people with him as well, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
Any like we see a guy with a beard and address,
we don't care we would hear someone I've decided to transition.
I've never felt like I was in the right body.
You might be like, that's strange, but you wouldn't be like,
you know, you would, you would be supportive of it.
And it's just when it starts going down and you're not.

Speaker 3 (01:25:21):
Going to try and stop them from doing that. Of
course you shouldn't because you feel this. It's the same
with a lot of this, Like I think I'm just
pro body autonomy, Like I'm pro people doing what the
fuck they want, and I don't think that I should
really have much of a saying.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
But again, that's that's for someone who's an adult, and
you know, for an adult, and I think that's the problem.
I think I think if they had never tried to
fuck around with the kids, they would not be an issue.
And I think that you had probably a whole lot
of people who are very supportive of the trans argument
who maybe had to publicly say like that, oh yeah,

(01:25:57):
we're going to put this barby Kardashian person in the
Women's Praise, which happened. That's fucking psychology. Like the fact
that we were just wholesale going oh yeah, do that,
do that that's fine. Yeah, no, just we have to
stick with the attenda. And that's what radicalized all these
people because that wasn't reasonable.

Speaker 3 (01:26:12):
There's a line you have to thall on a lot
of these institutions, like and it's the same hair that
like if you're not like super super pro said like minority,
Like if you have any dissent in opinion about like
a minority in any wesh ever form, you're probably not
the minority I'm talking about, Like you're you're out. Yeah,

(01:26:32):
you have to talk the line. And if you don't,
and if you don't, if you have a dissent in opinion,
like you can have an opinion where I think this
minority is great in every every every other way, but
I don't agree with this and how we handle this
with this minority, like we need to have a different policy,
Like they don't want to hear it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
You're out. You have to have and you're but you're
not coming at it from a place of hete You're
coming at it from place of here's an issue that
we have. How do we like make this better. You're
not going to make it better by vilifying the minority.
You'll make it better by opportunity. It's like the way
America even looks at their their crime and they're like, oh, yeah,
the crime is you know, done by x amount of

(01:27:07):
people who are black, and you're like, yeah, but it
has nothing to do with the fact that they're black.
It's had they come from areas that are totally with
no opportunity, and they make more money turn into a
life of crime than they can any other way. But
that's no one's born with the skin color. It's like
it's a.

Speaker 3 (01:27:21):
Product of your environment. And I grew up. I grew
up in an environment where like a lot of my
my family were dealers, were in prison and had records,
and I was the same growing up. I didn't really
have Like I wasn't looking up to people that went
to college or people that work nine to five, Like
I never looked up to any of that when I
was growing up. I was looking up to just like

(01:27:45):
you know what my uncles were thrown up with black
bags full of snakes and counterfeit clause when I was young,
Like that that was what I grew up. It's a
very different type of life and I so I know
firsthand what it's like to be a product of that
and you actually have to make it. Can't change this
effort to not be like that. It's very difficult actually
at times. So it's like so when yeah, exactly, when

(01:28:07):
you hear about that and then you get into deep
into the into the weeds of like ghettos and CIA
involvement and you're like about drugs being pumped into there
and there's all this weird. Man, it's just too crazy.
And then you look at Yeah, you look at all
of the crazy shit. You look at the Black Wall
Street you ever heard of? That whole story is crazy.
That's something that people should read if they haven't. Yeah,

(01:28:29):
it's again, it's not wrong. We won't get into it today,
but it's it's a good story for people to listen to.
But believe it. There we're run over time. Yeah, we
save the world today and we.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
Tried to be again. This is just a podcast where
you try to make each other laugh. And so it's
funny that we agree about an awful lot of stuff. Yeah,
I think there used to be a time where we
used to have different opinions. Maybe or osmosis have just
seen each other every month again and mind meld. Maybe
that's what the world needs. An entire global teams chat.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
I think I'm probably fairly close to being some kind
of anarchists or something. But I also realize the need
for assist ohesion. Yeah, because like I but I'm very
much like, do whatever the fuck you want to do.
I don'tant to know about it. I'm kind of like that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
I think anarchy eventually will just need to lead to
a new system where creatures of hire and eventually it
just becomes But you do need to probably introduce a
little anarchy in places. That's not to segue out there
and start sparkling carriers or what.

Speaker 3 (01:29:29):
But I think I just think the whole I'm just
tired of people telling me how to think it fail.
I'm just also tired of just like just outrage merchants.
I had all that, I had, all that. I hope
there's I'm hoping for a change. I think.

Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
I think that's why we have some of the issues
we have now, as people are voting for changes because
of the way things were going and again obviously being
pushed into the extremes by algorithms and all the rest
of it. And now we're seeing what those other alternatives
are offering, and we're going oh fuck, that's not what
I wanted and or the only thing I hope man,

(01:30:06):
and the only thing that makes sense. Find just some
way of creating cohesion between people, because the reality is,
if you sit down with someone, you forget about your
politics and all the rest of it. You're just two
human beings and you will find more than you have
with each other. And you don't. Yeah, you're gonna have
the occasional fucking nonsense serial killer. We'll fucking get rid

(01:30:27):
of those dudes. But generally speaking, the rest of the population,
they're there, they're okay, and if you are stuck in
a situation with them, you will collaborate and work together
to try to help your help get yourself that you're
stuck on a desert island and that's going to kill
the dude and need them. Most people will work together,
will collaborate, will do their best to try and help

(01:30:47):
each other out of the situation. That's what we're that's
what we should be doing, but we're being.

Speaker 3 (01:30:51):
Corrupted, being fucking stupid. It's actually funny, like I've got
on with anyone, Like there's a wedding now that there's
a couple of a couple of carizongles are guards. Actually
one of them was a detective up in Dublin. He
actually hilarious saying off he thought I was a guard.
Oh yeah, big guard ahead of me, yeah, he said.

(01:31:12):
He said that the care his dad. He was like,
here guard is he?

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
And you could join the guards. I was the age
to fifty. You should.

Speaker 3 (01:31:21):
I was gone because the only thing the only thing
is that I would have to move out extra. I
would have hilarious crack being dog ignoring guard.

Speaker 2 (01:31:31):
I love you go hard, right.

Speaker 3 (01:31:33):
So when I was about when I was about like
probably about twenty seven twenty eight, there was a time
where it's like fuckably be a guard for the crack, just.

Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
For the last should be a bad there's so desperate
cards you could probably like either be a guard, but
you have to station me and gory. Yeah, just get
the train.

Speaker 3 (01:31:51):
Up, man. No one likes guards.

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
I want you to be a guyard so bad.

Speaker 3 (01:31:58):
I've got a right crack out enjoy it what I
enjoy it. I just love no one as well that
everyone hates you. I love that you're like a villain.
You can play the heel. When you can play the
heel like head. I love that I love being a
shipthead to just fucking scum back.

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
I'm being paid to be.

Speaker 3 (01:32:19):
Like scum Bay. Fucking degenerate fuckers like that are just
annoying bastards. I love you like I'd be like.

Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
Instagram and lap on the back and that I'd be bad.

Speaker 3 (01:32:29):
I'd be cropped with power, be bad like a.

Speaker 2 (01:32:32):
Lot of fun. You look at the smiles. I think
you should apply to the guards. See if you get in.

Speaker 3 (01:32:38):
You know what it is. I don't think I get
on what other guards have to.

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
Be on boat. You love inside and out power, the
energy that you get after.

Speaker 7 (01:32:50):
We're going around like a fucking heel and w W. Anyway,
I leave with that movie enough.

Speaker 3 (01:33:02):
Yeah, we'll be back with many folds. Letter in the week, folks,
I'm in raben A

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