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Speaker 1 (00:02):
A crypt and this is a scriptor. I wanted a
quick against my enemies. Yeah, you see, you wanted to say,
and then all little raiser, but Apple, get you from
the wielder.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Hello everyone, what is up buying? Rob?

Speaker 1 (00:30):
I am aiming?

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Oh infantile mini fols goog Gaga. Indeed, how are you
doing today?

Speaker 1 (00:38):
I'm well today? Actually, how are you good?

Speaker 2 (00:40):
And also the infants for safe. Ian Watkins is dead.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Got it all to hide? I believe it was the
first line of that song he did it turned out
he did have it all to hide. But he's dead
now that's grand.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah he is. For our listeners that don't know who
he Rokins is, He's was the lead singer of Lost
Prophets and one of the most evil nonsense in the
history of nonsense.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
And have the English cornered the market for celebrity nonsense
now he is wel sorry, United Kingdom the main Actually, no, yeah,
that was that was It's one of the rare times
when they'll be like, yes, that was the United Kingdom.
That was England.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
No, yeah, he was not m constant. That was too
evil that I think Netflix and I'll even shyed away
from doing it. That I think it will come now.
But the ship that he was at was some of
the worst. It's the type of stuff that when you
read it, you're like, oh, I wish I never heard that,
and I wish I could just rewind time.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Exactly how you feel when you read about him. And
then h was Iankins from Steps.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
He was like, I didn't do any I'm just a
game MANH yeah, H I read.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
I read an article. It was by an ex girlfriend
of his who had been a celebrity as well. Maybe
she was a presenter on a TV show, but she
was saying like that. Apparently she was like, he never
gave off any indication this, but he got mad into
like myth or whatever is it meta cracked the one
that makes you mad horny, and I think and still
he was probably and look, if you're taking meth, you're

(02:24):
probably taking crack as well, to be fair, But she
said that after sort of this drug addiction, obviously no
one knew about that he was doing, but he must
be just evil because like, obviously, yeah, so you think
you'd come down after drug and go, oh wow, look
at all these things I did. I need to like.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
It's saying it seemed like there was probably like obviously
a lot of narcissism. There was probably there was. Yeah,
there was probably a lack of self respect, which is
that odds of narcissism, But I think that was probably
part of it. To that he was just kind of
like whatever, I don't want to try and get into
psychology if no, too much to be honest with you both, No,
he was just an evil count probably a bit higher

(03:08):
empower maybe as well, Like there be a lot of that.
But narcissism is funny.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Like there's the element of narcissism that like is I
want to be in power, I want to be controlled,
but then there's like the victimization of people with absolutely
no power, and that's what he was going to disregard towards.
Oh yeah, and I would not want to say, manipulating
his fans into giving him access for ship, but like
because they're the ship that they there's bad you know,

(03:34):
I don't know, I don't even say being worse. No,
apparently that didn't happen. It was he was trying to
do that. I don't want to say. Everyone who Yeah,
they'll be like what could he have done? And then
they look it up like it's way worse than I thought. Yeah,
but anyway, so in prison throats.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Slashed slab, slap blop of a more shived of a
choose who was Yep, that's good riddings then, But are we.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Just going over like because last week we talked about
Chris just going over like celebrity.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Celebrity always my head.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
So yeah, Chris, what Chris Ben did was less bad
than what this lad was doing, I think, but it's
still very bad. I don't know what's the tear, what's
the who's like? In terms of dwarst, he's like us
and Chris Ben was just a plus. Chris Ben was bad.
Now Crispin was seemed like he had diminished capacity to understand. Yeah, yeah, Chris.

(04:35):
The other fellow was slee.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, Chris, chrispans Brian was probably like a fucking pickle,
know what I mean? So like there is a bit
of theminist responsibility there for sure.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yeah. Yeah, And again we're not making excuses for any
of these horribles you are you're apologizing for. I would
sooner apologize for Chris Ben. I think No, I w
is on his own. Now what circle of hell would you.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Say he's well, he's gone like, there's no job like
Jesus and God up there. They're not giving him any heaven.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
And Ian walk into like, ah, here do you see
the reason. I don't know if this is a I
or if it's true. There was a recent like quote
I saw from like Trumpet. He was like, I don't
think I'm going to get to heaven. Yeah, I actually
say that on a plane or something.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
I think it was on the first one. Yeah, yeah,
it was just it was.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Just like I've done any terrible, probably won't get to him.
It was I probably won't. I was like, if there's heaven,
I stand, I think relatively good chance to get in.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
He was like, yeah, no, I don't think it's from me,
and I don't think that will be happening. And he's
like not, He's like half doesn't even really seem like
he's totally joking. And then it's just kind of changed
the subject.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
And goes yea, the wayward rambling of a man who
was Yeah, people are talking about is he you know,
got diminished? But I've been reading about this Steven Miller Feller,
and I can't tell what I'm reading. Who's he's like
the White House. I can't even remember what the name
of it is. He's basically the fella in charge, is
what some of these articles are saying. But apparently he

(06:15):
wants like, you know, the way a lot of people
say that, like the the Republicans are racist and blah
blah blah, and you're alway kind of like, ah, that's
fucking But what I read about this or what I
heard on the podcast, and I'm not saying I believe
this because I haven't looked into it and it seems excessive.
He basically it's not that he wants to get rid
of immigrants and this, and that he wants to get

(06:37):
rid of everybody that isn't.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Twice Oh, I'm not like like that's you're allowed to
say all that now, but like.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
That's that's like this is the most insane.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Think about it. What was it two years ago? Like
everyone on podcasts, I'm saying, no, I can't say not.
All these Canadians you can't say not, and you get
canceled and too fast forward two years. I don't want
black people in my country and that's perfectly acceptable. I'm
not canceled.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Like you don't get someone say that thing that you
just said yeah, Nick.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Nick, well Nick find Is who is on all the
YouTube like podcasts and all that. He said that that's
the fellow who he said that having sex, having sex,
he said to a girl having sex with a black
man is the same as having sex with an animal.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
What oh yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:21):
And he's like oh yeah, and he's going on podcasts
he's been in and he's like, oh, well, you know
they're kind of it was kind of a gotcha. It's
like like yeah, yeah, and everyone's like, okay, cool, Yeah,
Church are coming on, are talking?

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Brother? So should we just leave America off?

Speaker 2 (07:38):
This is what? But but this was two years ago,
like three years ago. You know, you were led to
believe that you couldn't say nothing, And so is it
now that people can say everything?

Speaker 1 (07:48):
This is great, there's a thing. But the thing where
like you get you get you know, maybe unrightfully canceled
for saying something as a joke or blah blah blah,
you know, when you made fun of something and maybe
it had but she don't.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
What I'm saying is the idea of been canceled as
they were trying to put it out. As I've said
before on this part is not actually a reality it's
like it's like a straw man for them to basically
try and say that there's this walk agenda.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Well, it's certainly right now not a reality. People do
about five and six and seven years ago, but like
right now it's not a reality.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, people like people get the platform. That does happen, Like,
no one's disputing that people get the platformed if they said,
but again, like is that the end of the world.
Like people were acting as if it was like they
were sent off to concentration camps or something. You know
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Look, I think I think that there's a very different
thing between making a joke and poor taste and something
bad happenings to you and I don't know to what
extent that did happen, and saying there should be no
other races in the United States America and being.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Serious ship at the next one that's well as its
like Hitler blush, he wouldn't be Hitler wouldn't have been
saying that UFC fighter today a poulted like a swastika,
a white swastika that was drawn into a hill somewhere
in America. He was driving down the roll and he
was like, you know something along lines of like oh yeah,
I can't you know, Hitler is the man like kind

(09:10):
of shit and you're just like what we were in
this like absolute fucking insane stupid time, like why why
you do papering idiots? How could hell could you like
paper moron? That was all right about paper more?

Speaker 1 (09:28):
This is fucking nuts.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
People are listen, there's not there's not much more to
say in other paper morons. Yeah yeah, yeah, and sure
leave him off, you know, because they're just just you
can't say them so well.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
The problem is that a lot of these people seem
to be holding higher office, so I'd be more about them,
not so much saving us, but like when your.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
President has gone like I'm not going to happen any
of my brother.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah, like the same fellas like spared me. Actually maybe
that was God trying to get me and the devil
had my back that day. That's that's that the whole
thing is fucked. Like I think we're at we're at
the vinegars, like it's about to go.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
I'll be grand here, we'll be all right.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
I think will be the last to get it, but
we will get the same as everybody else.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
I hope everyone's doing well and you're having to go
there where if you met be In spite of all
of the solutionnanigans. Today we have a big foot site
and we're going back, and we also have a nice
little girl story. I will talk about other bits and
bobs as well. I cleared Simon tell f this weekend,
so a little bit about that.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yevery good. I watched a good television show called Boots Military,
so talk about that. I didn't have wine too, and
I watch with my wife. I might have had coitus
in the background. I'm not sure. Was it the best
sex of my life? Tune in listeners would be covering
this later. I didn't know. It was an excellent TV.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Very good.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
I didn't didn't do anything for me.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Quick reminder of one listening. I'm over to check out
our Patreon. By the time you heard this, hopefully I
have a new episode. It's gonna be a pilot episode
and for a podcast.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
I think.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
This is the fucking thing. Trying to comput the name
is difficult. So but mysteries, folklore, ghosts, you know, just
kind of one shot like spooky. I'm kind of trying
to put out like a late night radio creepy vibe.
Stuff that you listen to kind of want to sleep
very cool, you know that kind of thing, like just

(11:40):
that kind of vibe. So but anyway, like jazzy voice,
like blind Boil.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Welcome back to the Scary Story. But Robert.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
I like blind Bider. He kind of he doesn't really
like his.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
And when the ads come on years off you the
chap as, they all like, you know what I mean,
he's got he likes to speak. Yeah, yeah he does.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
He's funny. But anyway, Yeah, check out our Patreon and
also res access to our discord. There's a huge backlog
of exclusive Patreon stuff over there as well, like there's
just Lords of Shit and you compare for the year
as well if you like. If they have any crypto encounters,
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Speaker 1 (12:25):
Send your stories to Monster Foruz podcast at gmail dot
com and we will read them out on the Minions
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Speaker 2 (12:35):
So yeah, oh yeah. Also a quick little reminder while
I remember Spotify rapt should be out soon, so be
sure the tigers when that comes out. And when that drops,
another reminder, I need to get in touch with him.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Because we need to do that. Oh Halloween stuff.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Halloween is going to be probably not as good as
I had hope this year because I'm actually away. I'm
now an uncle and the.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Godfather god Do.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Mariopooza, So I have to go over to the Okay
for that because my goddaughter is in the UK annoyingly,
so I have.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Coming over from Ireland, so.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
I have to go over to the fucking block. And
that's actually the weekend before Halloween. But I'm back the
Monday and hopefully we can get an extra one or
two out and hopefully we can record with him as well.
I need to reach out to him because we haven't
chated to him in a while.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Albert alb album Twitch A Twitch that Day was just
done I think recently, so he's probably.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Be twitch.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
But you what, what's the fucking album be twitch for? You? Fine?

Speaker 2 (14:01):
What you daft? Right? So we're back to the good
old Big four Research Organization BERTHO. And there's a story
here emon that caught my attentions from this year and
you know, there's all the fluff, you don't need to
read all of that, but basically it's in California, San

(14:21):
Bernardino County, Mount Baldy, So if you want to take
it to other allam.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
On Tuesday ninth of the ninth, twenty twenty five, I
drove up to Mancer Flats to hike the Mount Baldy
Bowl to Devil's Backbone Trail. I'll tell you the fucking
Department of Names. It was approximately eight am and the
weather was approximately fifty five to sixty degrees fahrenheit. Of course,

(14:48):
because I would have boiled alive if it was Celsius.
At the trailhead on Mount Baldy Road, I exited my
jeep and walked to the back of it to prepare
my gear for the long hike up Mount Baldy. As
I was opening the tailgate of my jeep, I heard
an extremely loud wail coming from what seemed like the

(15:08):
end of the Mount Baldy Road. Yeah, probably something like that.
This road is approximately one fourth of a mile a
quarter of a mile north of where I was. The
scream produced a strong emotional response from me, and I

(15:30):
ejaculated my pants. He doesn't say that, lady, now, he said.
The scream produced a strong emotion response for me, and
the sound went on for approximately ten to fifteen seconds.
I captured a video that has a part of the
scream and dogs from the from two or three neighboring
houses nearby. The scream made me freeze and made the

(15:50):
hair on the back of my neck stand up wrecked.
I needed some time to think about what I had
heard before I started my trek. I have been a
police officer in Los Angeles for approximately nine years, and
I work on the other side of the freeway from
downtown LA. I have never experienced the rush of emotions

(16:10):
that the whale or scream caused. And this lad probably
sees a lot of maybe in dangerous situations. I'd imagine
in LA.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Faces mashed into the ground after all accidents.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah, and just lads that might pull a gun on them.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
A lot of stuff as well that you think we're cops,
like that they do that you kind of forget that
they have to do stuff that's like part of the job.
Like I was reading about someone talking about the recent
it's like a lot of the stuff that you wouldn't
think about with cars is like in Ireland especially apparently
this is like semi frequent, where like people from narsen
homes will just wander off and like they'll find them
like a day later, face down in a lake or

(16:45):
something day and like they have to do all those
call outs trying to find people and then yeah, shown
up the doors going like your daughter was mashed in.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
The car, yeah, or like all of that.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Ship Like you don't think about that stuff as much
yet in tragic yeah and stuff.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Maybe the first lads, Yeah, you wouldn't have imagine like
like to your points finding the next a cane having
to explain to him ways a heavy toll. But the
good news is that you can become a guard now
until the age of fifty. So if you like giving
bad news fun for some people, though some people like it.
Some people high on misery, high on misery them around.

(17:25):
But this lad's in l a cops, so he wouldn't
have time for any of the black lads.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
That's how Central show a few black lads put a
few bits of drugs in their pockets.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Sprinkle some cracks. Yeah, in Ireland you wouldn't have that as.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Much an LA there's a police biker gangs, so they're
all on Yeah, so they're like they're like organized bike
gangs like the Hell's Angels, but they're all cops. Imagine
how like that's.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Also they're not officially They're just like, this is what
they do when they're down to time.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah, right, imagine that that's like hard Like all the
cropp fucking cops d bikers.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
They're also there, they don't d uphold the law. I
thought they were kind of well, maybe not too they're
playing both sides.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
I said, that's what it is, which is if you're
a biker instead Hell's Angels or the band some nightmare.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Like I didn't going to work with a Monday and
you've been out all weekend doing crimes.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
And as well, like these cops would have all the
dart on the other bikes of course, so they're a
bike and they also have all the dart on the
other bike. Guys.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
The commissioner returns because he knows that they're getting good
work done.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
I'm actually surprised they never wrote them into the likes
of your Sons and Anarchies because it would make it
go to.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Like final did how did that? May and m C
and MC thing same ship again.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
But yeah, lads this time, I think there's a bit
of crossover. I think a couple of lads from Sons
are in at the show.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
But then sounds of you have a weird like racial undertone.
Wasn't that part where Juice was getting in trouble because
his dad was black or something like and they didn't
know his dad and he was like, he finds out
and then your man was making do a lot of
bad stuff. Yeah, that's so.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
I think that's why there's like Mexican bike gangs and stuff,
just because I think maybe the original has.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Something to do because when you go to prison in America,
they say you have to kind of have to join
one of these racial groups. Otherwise you're just getting stamped
by everybody. So then the bike gangs to be going
to jail and the regular Yeah, what other choice would
I have? Like they join us, I'd just be hanging
around with a load of tinkers like that, just being

(19:42):
the tingers. I'd be the scribe. We have our most
intelligent member here to take notes. He's educated, he's educated
in English. They had a lot of poems. How many poems?
How many poems? Also the sound about a poem? Write
down what I say. I'm like a ry man here

(20:02):
right write and down stupid towny right down.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, you have to write it all down from that well.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
To be fair, I actually five generations black I have
the generation live generations back. I have the blood five generations.
I meant to say that because it's hilarious, funny, man,
five generations back. I have the blood of the nomads
in me. Oh yeah, I do know, I do. Like
me great great, great great nanny, she settled one of them. Really, yeah, alright,

(20:35):
you know it's not for real.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
I'm looking after her now what it looks.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Like I have. I'm like, like traveler, look at this attractive,
attractive nomadic man. So that's me. I have the blood
in me in my veins. Yeah, that's why maybe I'll
never do the accents so good, recessive deep bowels, me pants.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
That's the Yeah, yeah, and I like to do it.
I found out actually that there's a little bit of me.
Now that's a Cromwell planter.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
That's not surprising.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah, it's not depending site mcgranny Billington. So what was
her maternal haslem? Carolyn?

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Actually, what was Carolyn Carolyn? Which is so bright?

Speaker 2 (21:24):
That was old as you used to do before Carolyn Carolyn.
It was Haslem, which is Haslam directly tracks back to
Cromwell planners.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
I know here you are living in it's a bizarre.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
It's just the way it is, you know. Found out
the other day as well. The mcgreg grand that was
mcgreg grey grand I sorry, was one of the founder
members of the Wexford Horticultural Society.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
That also tracks. Yeah. I come from a long line
and down the road that's mad. No, I come from
a long line of high functioning alcoholics.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
The name jim Bean.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
You won't find anything. There's no spirit that can take
me down. I actually I haven't been drinking much. I
feel like I do feel better.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Character development.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
These are way longer than they used to be.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
I'm I'm down, but that I think it's sad. I
don't know, just can't be annoyed or something and everything.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
It's just vitamin D like the weather.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Swear. Is there I can do to help? Sure?

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah, I want to kind of go with one island
or something to live on me all.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
I think we should one of the weekends when everyone's free,
we just disappear somewhere and if we make it back,
we make it back. I tell you what.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
We do.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Join the military like them gay lads, because it's pretty
good military cracking. No, you have to go America join Marines.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
That sounds really fun actually that it.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Made it look like an episode of Dawson's Care, but
with more violence, more death, more stress.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
I want to add more PTSD to my already PTSD existence.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
What could be more ptsdjuicing than joining the Marines and
having to try and hide the fact that I didn't
realize that, like it was illegal to be gay in
the Marines in like the eighties.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah, and I think we'vecome full circle. I think I
know they're fucking back to the role, back to the
roll tricks. They're like, we don't need Irish lads. Irish
people weren't recognized as being white.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
We were just able to pass. That's probably not long now,
just like no dogs, no blacks, no Irish. We'll be
there with everyone again. And I definitely won't get away
with it.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
You want, you know, you might get away, but like
actually crow, Yeah, anyway, this fellow who hurt a whale?

Speaker 1 (23:49):
So this fucking motorcycle gang cop, He says, there were
approximately fifteen other vehicles parked where I was. It was
a moderate, moderately trafficked area even during the weekdays. I
am not sure what made the screamer while I am
an avid hiker in Camper when life permits, and I've
never heard this type of noise or had a reaction

(24:10):
to a noise like I did with this one. The
brown sound, the brown sound, It'll make you shit. I
did find a possible footprint on a nearby park approximately
two years ago, but decided it was nothing. The footprint
was at around five five hundred feet of elevation on
Sunset Peak. I was reluctant to share this, but was

(24:32):
convinced by my girlfriend because the sound made her uncomfortable
even through a phone speaker. Thank you for all your time,
and thank you for what you all do. Hope to
hear from you all soon. And now there's a follow
up investigation.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yeah, you can tact that whether from mister Matthew Moneymaker.
He's the guy who runs the website.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
I believe, Okay, he says, I spoke to the witness.
He is very credible. It was indeed a law enforcement
officer in last angle means yeah, that's that means yeah, infallible.
He knows a police officer I know, and that officer
recognizes this guy in the video. I listened closely to
the recording. It sounds very much like a sasquatch vocalization

(25:14):
and very unlike a coyote or a human. When I
say unlike a human, I mean not even like human
that is trying to sound like a sasquatch. How would
you sound like a sasquatch? What you mean like, do
a sasquatch sound? That's pretty good? That's more of aware.

(25:35):
It was.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah, I don't know what to sound like, to sound
like any kind of pretending noise really, yeah, but something
like that, probably, I think, yeah, yeah, I think there's
a lot of I was leading reading a Big four

(25:56):
chat around the inner webs this week. Actually, yeah, people
were just kind of wondering where big Foot slept at night.
Maybe it doesn't need this about a lot of people
were like, I've listened to I read a comment and
read it where your man was like, I've listened to
approximately fourteen hundred episodes of the Sasquatch Chronicles, and.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
I probably listened to.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yeah, you're as qualified as a guy thing some kind
of genius.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Two paths diverged in yellow Wood, and I took the
path that just lets you make fun of it all
and attention to it.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah, you see, I think a lot more people nowadays
our camp metaphysical big Foot, which it's all well and
good now, but it does feel a bit of a
cop out to me, But sure, we'll deal with that
as because.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
The same as people who like talk about the gene
and the Faye and all this, it's all connected. It
is so connect. It's connected to me, it's connected to you,
like you spontaneous human combustion. Right in a world where physics,
quantum physics is based on probabilities, then it's incredibly improbable

(27:06):
that someone would die of spontaneous combustion, but it would
also have to happen at some point in a world
of of quantum physics, like anything is possible, but just
not probable, right, Yeah, so maybe there's some sort of
weird stuff where I don't know. Of course, I'm a
person who knows very little about quantum physics. Talking with

(27:26):
authority and digress the same Neil doesn't know what he's
somebody Neils like, there's no such thing as Bigfoot? What
are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Because I think he'd be fucking to the line with
all that bullshit, Like nah, he's he's he does like
he plays around.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
With I'd say neil No.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
I think he plays around with multiverse and all that shit.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Well, apparently a lot of people are saying string theory
can just fall down in the hype now giving out
about string theory, strange theory, multiverseh it like sure, I
don't even know it is.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, there's a lot of doesn't watch for me, Like,
I think it's just because I think marveled he me
after multivarse. So whether it's true or not, I'm not interested.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
If we have simulation theory, then it's like yeah, because
then you can just have like if it's a simulation,
anything can be true because you can just change the
parameters of the simulation.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
I think, yeah, if I was to true and we're
absolutely not qualification on anything.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Of course, as this wanted to do, I would.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Say that I'm more likely to just believe outright in
simulationary over like multivars or any of that cac.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
That's very big balocks. That's a text from Bigfoot.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Now, But that's what I think. I think that. I think,
I actually think that perhaps simulationary is even more like
I'd sooner believe in that than even religions.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
I think that it is similar because even if you
do believe in religion, this is still a simulation, is
like the well, isn't there something in the Bible about Jesus,
one of the Jesus, Like, oh no, the latter has
just disappeared from the pool, but now something about in

(29:17):
the Bible about a demon who gave technology to humans
or some.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
When we need.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
But now he'd be like, you are both stupid and wrong.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
He'd be right, Well, when I come starting about the Bible,
that for sure, you want to talk about retro telling myself.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
I think ground but that's my but I do think yeah,
like even you know, we're talking about Plato's allegory of
the cave, and that is effectively saying that this is
a simulation. We don't see reality for what a truly is.

(29:56):
And we know that we don't see reality for what
a truly is based on quantum physics, which means that
on some level there's some sort of a veil or
it's some sort of a simulation. But yeah, there's there's
a lot of we just don't know if it's a
computer simulation or if it's like some sort of dimensional
thing or I'm gonna be some raging though if I

(30:18):
die and then I just like basically like take off
a headset and I go, oh, that was grandeur.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Any other games, it'd be kind of mad, like whatnot
because it'd be just like what the fuck was that?

Speaker 1 (30:29):
But you wouldn't even yeah, like and what's what happens
when you come.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Like XP or something for what look like in Wakings
when he text Office, I say, he's like the lost
X page.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
All right, so considered lost. Consider this Wakings in the
simulation like a level, what do you want to like,
Let's say.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
It was prestige level as like in college, and now
I want to play hard and he's gone the prestige
one again.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Let's say for a let's say we're all won, right, yeah,
and you choose the outline of how hard it's going
to be, so you might be like, you know, I'm
going to have these various mental problems or physical problems,
moremental problems possibly maybe do you go in and because

(31:19):
he kind of did the Requiem for a Dream, so
he's like, I want to be really, it's going to
be really fun at the start, really cool there, and
then it goes into a horrible dark sort of abyss
and eventually I just get killed in prison.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
I think that was like like he was from like
I think like Ponty Pride well, like so actually when
you look at him, you're like, oh, he was probably
something that was a simulationary because like he probably shouldn't
have gotten as big as he ever did.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
But were they ever that big or were they just
a weird new metal band disappeared? You know the thing
that don't you know what gets.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Me more progress was a slap like that was a
big one. Like they were big in the States as.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Well Trained Home with Jeff Hardy's promo he.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Was my critical had a video saying like he's in
the States and he was like, oh when I was young,
like I had like lost profits like tunes on my websites,
I met not like they were a huge metal and
like yeah they were like they were up there. Like
so what I'm saying is yeah, maybe he maybe he Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
I don't know this conversation.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
I never thought I'd be talking about Ian Watkins and
choosing his choosing his own adventure adventure go back to.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
It's over, You've just gotten your throat slash, Yeah, no
it is.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah, But but I think.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
That is that a thing where if we're just trying
to experience life. Let's say, so we're a different entity.
They're not human. We're trying to experience life. And then
in this simulation, I'm experiencing what it's like to be me.
You're experience and what it's like to be you. We
could be the same thing that's experiencing it at the
same time. And that's why we feel like that that

(33:18):
idea of we're all one, but you know, we don't
feel that sense of connectivity properly, but it's going to
be fun. Like kind of the more I think about it,
I kind of have think that whatever you believe might
happen after you die as well, because after you die
could just still continue the simulation could.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Be like, you know, when the image gets burned in
on an all led TV if you've left, But what is.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
That what it's going to like? I've actually never thought
of that before. What if when you die the simulation
just keeps going. That's actually upset me a little bit.
If when you die, that's like, that's not the end.
The simulation keeps going you You dying is part of
the simulation, so whatever happens to you after that is
still a simulation. There's no ok WWE, no way out

(34:07):
of pay per view.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Well yeah, I suppose, like listen, if anyone of us
are our listeners, we wake up weak after Meta Quest
seven and we go Jesus, this was all a simulation.
So you'd always question and they'd be like, well, so
this is a simulation as well, and it's just like.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
It doesn't make but does it make life easier or
hirer to think that this is a simulation. I think
there's some people that could go off east and just
be like to just do whatever I want.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Saying that it's all the simulation is probably like the
foundation of a good psychotic episode, you know, but it is.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
But it's like it's it's implies.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
There's no consequence or there's no.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Whether there is consequence, just just whether it's a simulation
or not. There's still consequence if you believe no one
else is real and you're there in.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Npcason, if you believe it's something that if you believe that,
you just take oflf your head saying that was a crack,
then nothings of concer. That's really if you truly believe that.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
But if you take off your headset and they go
We did the test, and it turns out you have
to go to because you're you can't go to the elisium.
But that's what's going to markets.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
That's what I'm getting to is like he well, if
it is a simulation and he was aware of going
into this the crack, he's fucked.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
That's that's what they want outside. Well, that's the Then
the simulation wouldn't have the rules we have, and then
like it could just be like art could be just
a video game. Why is it that certain parts of
the simulation and the rules are different. Do you know
what I mean? You go over to like the simulations,
like rules are like this over here. Sure that's grand over.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Here, but that's not that's not the simulation's fault. That's
the game within the game. So that's like fucking raw blocks.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
I see. So it's just making its own way. So
the simulations like we have gravity, we have this, we
have that. Yeah, it could be something like a really
complicated engine. Effectively, we're like in Unreal twenty.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Well, lots are like because we can't understand the Big
Bang properly and what came before properly, odds are we
can't understand if anything bigger than that anyway, So if
it was anything, if there was anything out of larger
scaled in said a big bang, which there is, we
have absolutely no grasp on that.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Someone. We actually don't have the brain power. No, no,
and we won't. I don't think whatever any of this
stuff out someone for the comment on something and I
just went, oh fuck, And it was like, what if
the big bang was the gun going on in God's mouth?
I was like, Jesus Christ, but like.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
We don't know, I mean, what what if it's like
what if we are some kind of underground scale of everything,
some kind of MicroB sized thing. Yeah, and that's if
you could just pull out in Like.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
But wasn't that's that's the Wasn't that the whole mitochondrial
thing in Star Wars? Star Yeah, Star Wars that the
original prequels are the next trilogy or whatever it was,
it was going to be about that effectively, So we
could be organisms and like if you just but if
you just zoomed into that planet over there, the same
ship could be going on.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Or do you just kind of go fuck all that?
This is where I live. This is my reality. And
all I can do is take this reality as it
is because there's no answer to these questions. But there's
very real consequences to doing X, Y or Z in
this reality. And this is the only reality I know about.
Just take it that phase val.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Like live and die, not on like. So I mean,
as we can do is specula and have to crack.
It's fun to talk about fun, fun thought, thought exercises,
and it.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Is what it is, that's a crack like. And now
back to Bigfoot. It's crazy. Isn't a physical When I
say unlike human, I mean not even like a human
that is trying to sound like a sasquatch. The tone
and power of a howl from a large sasquatch is
very distinctive and impossible to mimic perfectly. I love these

(38:05):
lads to speak so confidently. For comparison, look up the
Ohio howl in nineteen ninety four on YouTube. Look it
up rops so we can play it for the listeners.
The witness only caught the last two seconds of the
howl on his phone. I don't want to pause the
recording post the recording publicly because it will be shared
without context and cause confusion. The important context was that

(38:28):
it was around ten seconds long, not just the two
seconds you hear at the very beginning of the recording.
I will be able to share this recording with bfr
O investigators upon request or otherwise.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
You have it wished.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
That's that's it?

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Oh so scary?

Speaker 1 (38:56):
That's it?

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Like so that sounds like a fucking right.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Sounds like an alarm, seems like a red siren. Souwestern yeah. Now,
unbeknownst to the witness, Over the years, we have received
other reports of sasquatch sounds and sightings in the same
area the parking lot for the Trailhead near the end
of Mountbody Road. These incidents have tended to occur in

(39:20):
the early morning hours or late afternoon, when Bigfoot wakes up. Presumably,
Compared to most other parts of southern California, this area
has mainly deer. This area near the Trailhead parking lot.
It is probably your best bet sasquatch Bigfoot would be
Probably he's not nock turnal anyway, who knows, well, if

(39:40):
he's a primer, like all primates are kind.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Of they say the night, yeah, but metaphysical diurnal what.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
You called it a diurnal, nocturnal and diurnal. I'm not sure.
I don't know, man, But you're now big mind expanding
conversation about reality Bigfoot as welcome as anyone else.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Yeah, well this is it everyone, everything's to play it for.
Everyone's on everything's on the table. I don't know, man,
I think I think.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Look, we've talked about having ghost stories here, right, Sorry,
most people we know have a ghost sorry, are connected
within a handshake or two to someone who has absolutly
I think is really I think the Bigfoot might just
be the same as ghosts and ghost stories. It's just
ship like that that happens, and it's I don't know
if you would call it real as in reality is
what we experienced it. But something is going on there

(40:34):
and it's real in terms of however you want to
define that.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
But then you have Patterson Gimlan, and then you have
the flesh and blood guys.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
But Patterson, Yeah, but Patterson gimb Then let's be honest.
He's probably a fella in a suit. Probably. You know,
it's the only animal I've ever seen that looks like
a fella in a suit. Yeah, And that's why I
think it's a fellat in a suit, because I've never
seen another animal that looks like someone in a suit,
rutless as ruthlessless aggression. But if it is real, maybe

(41:01):
that's the whole. That's the whole. The Bigfoot where he
was like, I'm gonna look like a big Foot in
the suit, because a metaphysical bigfoot would be able to
do that.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Does a gorilla kind of a distance look like a
fella and a gorilla.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Like, yeah, but if the gorilla in yeah, but if
you see yeah, but if you see a gorilla on gamray,
it looks like a gorilla. It doesn't look like a
fella in the suit. You watch if you watch a
Gorillas in the midst with Sigourney Weaver, you go, I
know which one is the real gorilla and which one
is a gorilla in the suit. Same as Jaws, I
know which one is the fake shark and which is
a real shark. Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (41:35):
What is the name of the shark in Jaws? But
Bruce is it actually because there's magic the gathering or
at least in a club with Jaws? Essentially the picture,
who's the shark? But call them Jaws, not call them
Bruce Bruce. That's what I know. That should be Bruce.
It's also annoying because the level of the shark is
a megalodon technically is.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
A shark is technically he's like a twenty five foot
or something like that in Jaws. Yeah, technically, but it's not.
Don't know, he's just a great white shark. Car Carrious.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
That's a common name dinosaurs. Car Karen must be like
teeth or something, because is a type of dinosaur Jaws
terrible teeth or something.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Yeah, teeth probably is, and I've met a few lads
with terrible teeth. Yeah, Jaws is probably my favorite movie
of all time the more I think about it. Fantastic
Park is up there. Yeah, I love Jaws.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Jaws I've never seen really Yeah, you.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
See you you can't swim, you don't go.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
To the bottom the fear.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
I watched it. I watched them that Primeval whatever it's
called Primeval Hunter Kill Dinosaur thing last night.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
That movie.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Yeah, I watched about an hour of it. It was
a good sci fi ish but good like sci fi
channel ish, I should say.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
I'm just finding out what it means sharp toothed. See
im fucking Jesus on the class Latin.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
By genius figure it out on the spot. Ye also
his contract if he has common denominator.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
There's a lot of genius stuff going on on this podcast.
I don't I don't know whether our listeners truly appreciate it. Actually, Boss,
there is a lot of high level it is hilarious, Like.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
These conversations go are post maddern is probably a good
way of talking about it. Listen to two fucking maniacs
get lost as they try to read very simple notes.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
I've said it before, I said again. We'd probably be
better off marketed as like a neural divergent friends podcast
like put Onto, something like Autism Network or something likely
would probably be more appreciated, probably like yeah, that's why
I'm going to get in touch with a kind of
places now.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Soon be like and will probably be someone will do
with the texts with medical science. They're more like they're
just eating the results are Yeah, it turns out they
were They're just stupid.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
It will be like an episode of what was it?
It was Jeremy Jeremy Coyle where he brought in the
results and wasn't.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
It Oh if you're the baby's father? Yeah, you ever
see the guile music when the guy dances to the
negative tests.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
So a bit of a Gholst story here from read
it's been a while. There's one about cleaning a hospital
and nighttime. Of course, we've had a few nighttime ghost stories,
so I'll get to it for context. I got this
job fiveish months ago. I'm in charge of cleaning all
common areas, waiting rooms, hallways, office spaces at, et cetera

(44:46):
of the three story non impatient hospital. I have a
couple of co workers who clean other areas, pediatric surgical centers,
et cetera, so I don't see them very often. Last month,
I had just gotten to the first floor and arted
my route with cleaning the bathrooms. The bathrooms face the hallway,
with a waiting room off to the left and some

(45:08):
office spaces to the right. I had just finished the
first bathroom and was heading into the second when I
noticed what looked like a young woman peeking around a
corner by the office spaces. I did a double take,
and she wasn't there. It's kind of what my sort
of shadow personal story was, kind of like that where
I've seen it and then I didn't. I was genuinely

(45:30):
confused as none of my coworkers look similar to her.
She had this uncanny valley look, and she was in
front of a complete white wall, so it's not like
my brain could have seen a poster and humanized it.
Either way, I just ignored it and continued on my route, or,
if you're in America, my route. Not even ten minutes later,

(45:53):
I was bending over to change the trash bag face
into the wall when my shirt was completely pulled away
from my back and dropped. Wow. I spun around, hoping
it was one of my co workers playing a joke
sexual assault jock, but nobody was there. I was super
freaked out and kind of held. I didn't say you

(46:13):
could touch me, finished my job and left. I haven't
had anything even close happened to me again. I'm not
sure what it was, but it was creepy as fuck, creepy.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
As f as as if.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Yeah, that's a creepy ghost spooky.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
I don't like when they do a shit like that.
Probably there's a guy who worked eight years ago in
the hotel. He actually gave me a book called The Celestine,
Celestine Prophecies and all, but he was big into like
ghostly stuff. This is way back when I was like
nineteen or eighteen or whatever. I can't remember his name,
but anyway, so this fella told me that he told

(46:53):
me that he would have regular experiences with ghosts and stuff,
but that like they do that thing in horror movies
where like they pull the sheets off you and stuff.
They pulled the sheets down, and I was just like,
that's fucking ship. It's that tactile stuff.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
I don't like, Like if you're like the Old Hag
almost as.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Well, Like I think I think if you're Old Hag
is awful as well. Like if you're fully there and
then like someone just takes your shoe off some unseen force,
that's awful, you.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Know, like that, No, we don't like that. We don't
like that.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Tell me speaking of things that you do or maybe
don't like, how was Silent Till f Now that it's
been completed? Good?

Speaker 2 (47:32):
So Silentil Who remat about a year ago literally pretty
much to the day, and Silent Til two is a
better game. Yeah, Silentil Who Masterpiece ten out of tig.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Historically it's one of the top tier.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Yeah, I think in hindsight, I think, actually, like looking back,
I'm like, that could be my favorite survival hard game. Ever.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Yeah, it's up there. It's logical.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
Yeah, I really like it as well, Like, yeah, I
like the psychological side of it. I always thought when
I was young, when I looked at Silent Hill, I
was like as kind of like a brained out fucking
game for people who listen to fucking heavy metal or something,
because I everything looked a bit stupid. And yeah, but
actually I do listen to heavy metal myself, but I'm

(48:20):
just thrown out for the laughter brain. But no, it's great.
It's actually brilliant and saw layered. So going into Silent
Till Left, I was I had high hopes. I was
really looking forward to, like getting into it.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
It was great.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
It was really good, but it was like an and everything.
I think you would actually really enjoy it because a
couple of reasons. It's more arcady, which I think you
like a bit more of a faster paced kind of experience.
It's quick, it's ten hours, yeah yeah, and it's Japanese,

(48:55):
which you also enjoy.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
I do that, and it's like it's proper Japanese environment
in nineteen sixty Japan. No, I'd be into that. And
I must say, you've cleared this game. I'm playing through
Alan Wakers, and I'm enjoying us, but I also feel
and I think Remedy are guilty of this a lot.
While the game is put together very well, it's very

(49:16):
interesting mechanics, and it's very interactive in terms of like
you know, the case board and meta and all the
rest of it, but it has this kind of I
find that it can be quite annoying to just figure
out where you're going, what you're doing, like what you're
supposed to be doing, and that frustrates me. And like

(49:40):
sometimes I just sort of feel like you're just going
around to doors to see what's going on. Yeah, it's good,
but it's it's also I don't think it's as good
as it thinks it is.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Yeah, maybe I thought that was a good game al too.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
I don't think it's bad. Sorry, So I think it was.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Probably better than Side the Left for me, probably.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Yeah, I should stress that I'm probably on about it
an eight out of ten, so I'm really enjoying it,
but I get fed up with it to time because
it just.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
Yeah, I could that's fair. I think I think, yeah,
it probably overstays as welcome. It's probably about four or
five hours longer than it needs to be, I think.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Yeah, whereas Resident Before remake to me is just it's
a perfect game and Red Before original, like, I I
know it's better at the start because the.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Environment had a little like I think too long as well.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
Though yeah, I think that the originals balls probably a
bit more because the original is shorter and it's to
the point. But yeah, I think the island's ballocks. I
don't like that, but yeah, I can understand that.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
To get back to Silently Left, yeah, it's great. Like
I think probably one of the reasons why it didn't
resonate with me as much as Silent Til Too was
because it's a female main character, and the story is
very much about a female main characters.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
Like ecology okay.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
And like what would I think, actually, if you were
playing it as a female, I think you actually, it
would probably resonate more.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Which would I think it's written by a man, interestingly.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Yeah, I believe, but still I think it would resonate
with you more than like Sientil. It was about the middle.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
And yeah, we were like, here's a man, who's kidding?
I can I can relate to this?

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Yeah, it's like this, I'm a white. I'm a white dude. Like,
but left not great. Like it's very good. There's a
couple of problems with like nothing major. I didn't mind
the combat. A lot of people didn't like it. I
did find one of the critics i'd read after the
fact that is like a lot of people were saying
it was unnecessarily complicated the combat. There was too much
going on, and I heard it agree with is a

(51:43):
little bit, like it's not what I would call this soul.
It's just there's a few too many mechanics for the
that I ended up not using it all going through
the game. Really, But yeah, the story is good. One
thing I fucking hate in video games and this game
made me realize it. And it's just I personally think

(52:03):
and this then edge it should just be gone. Is
this whole notion of like you need to clear it
the gain more than once to get the whole story.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
So you have to play it like three or four.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Yeah, I agree, fuck that, Like no one has enough
the time to do that anymore. There's too many games
as well. Even if you have enough time, there's about
a million and one game that you want to play.
It's lazy because it's like, look like I get it.
But I think one of the best things about Silntil
Too remake was Yeah, there was little things on a
repay I think, but not in major but all the

(52:36):
little wrinkles and the little cool, deliberate touches. They were
very well hidden. But yeah, if you look hard enough
you'd find them. So left realize more on just keep playing,
play it through again and there's more of the story
comes clear. Like it tells you basically the story when
you finish it. Yeah, but if you want a lot
more to.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
It, when when you live in an air in an era,
when you can just go on to YouTube and watch
the other endings. It's kind of like when you used
to play through to get all the endings on tech
and or whatever. I would never do that anymore, you know,
I just can't be arst. But when that was all
you had in you were fucking thirteen, there was no YouTube,
it makes sense, I know. In Near Automata, I yeah,

(53:17):
the same with them. Yeah, yeah, No, to be fair,
I think I did clear that three times, hoping because
I cleared it the first time. I was a bit
disappointed because I loved the first Near game, and I
know this is a very loose spiritual success or, so
there's not a lot of connection to it beside Popola
and Devil or whatever. But I played that night, leaders
liked played it again. I was like, yeah, I think

(53:39):
I cleared it three times. And the sort of cost
benefit analysis of like my time versus what I got.
I got a few little glimpses of easter aggy thing.
It's like, oh that's cool, or you know I'm starting
at a higher attribute points, or I'm a bit stronger,
or there is kind of some cool of it continues on.

(54:01):
There's something stuff, but I would argue, yeah, it's it's
not I it's worth the price of admission, you know.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
No, and uh it What was really kind of a
nice and weird coincidence is it? The game revolves around
the Katsuna or the Anari, which when I was in
Japan literally directly opposite the hotel that I said it
was the Anari katoon Rhine.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
It was like like the Fox.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Fox fall like that, like the right I was in
my hotel was like a massive shine, but like all
loads of different ones.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
In a do that mean fox? I think like a
female made something like that.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
And Ari Shrine as usually well I think that's what
it's referred to as. But so that was a nice
detail that I thought was cool because even running around
the environment, I was like, oh, yeah, we were in
one of those places, but no, it was Yeah, it
was a great It was a great game. Sil Tuto
is like's if you care about video games and anyway

(55:04):
shape or form and value them more than just a
sit down and I play and I'm mender him briefly,
you actually look at it like a bit deeper. It
was one of the best games you can ever play.
For that it's just across the board gameplay feeling fucking spook,
feeling uncomfortable, and.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
There's a kind of a feeling of despair.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Yeah it's miserable, but it's great, Like that's what you want.
You want, you want your hard to make it feel something. Yeah,
And so even the music and all that time.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
It was just music is incredible because it almost it fits,
but it almost doesn't fit, like it's a really I
remember remember the first trailer for Silent and that was
on a PlayStation demo disc and you couldn't play it.
You just showed the thing. There's a part where a
car goes around the corner lights go show a girl
and he crashes. But I remember hearing that music. I

(56:03):
was like, this is fucking like even at that age
before I really liked music, I was like, this is
really cool.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
One was weird just as well back in the day too.
That's getting realmaide.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
I think I believe so, which would be really good.
I think if you put more of a narrative structure,
it would probably be an excellent game.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Now, I've been watching lads getting interrogated for murder, like
when they've been tough.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Like the Jim Can't Swim videos j c S Crime. Yeah, yeah,
just like they really and they tell you about what's
happening in time laps. Yeah. I've enjoyed a lot of
those videos.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Some of them as I'm watching them on like these
lads are Like there was one guy and they were
labeling them as like high i Q in the video,
but I'm like, this land is just autistic.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Yeah, like like even.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
Though he was talking, I was like, he talks like
one of the guys on Love on the Spectrum, the
fellow who's psychopad like yeah, shot two people?

Speaker 1 (56:54):
Was he the fellow who was in by Elliot something
or other, Yeah, because and he he is heavily on
the autista something I could be talking. They were like, well,
then maybe it's not because I hate they didn't mention
it in this Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
They're like, yeah, it just came across a bit weird
because it was like the guy who's obviously not right
in the head, So then you have to do what
you do. I actually have to wonder about the minist
responsibility then lads like that because they were to be
a narcissist and they were saying, ah, it's narcissistic high
I Q, you know whatever, whatever, But like I was
watching them like this, right.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
These lads, it's like the likes of Ian Watkins or whatever.
Those lads have to be put in a place where
they can't fuck around with with missing people. Yeah, and
like that's the end of it. And unfortunately, look, I agree,
and I think that rehabilitation is really important thing, but
there's some lads. You just be honest, you're not going
to rehabilitate him that you know that no interest, that's

(57:52):
exactly I can't comprehend. Like, you're never going to rehabilitate
Ted Bundy. It's not going to happen. So you just
stick came somewhere, Yeah, exactly, like it's not going to happen.
But those I do enjoy those interrogation videos. I've seen
a few of them where like the lads are pretending
to be nuts, yeah, and then like they get caught
out and even like the camera is a the way
and it explains to what the detective is doing as

(58:14):
they're doing it, and it's just it's really fun.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
And most of them just start right though, Like even
the lads that when they're talking to him and they're
like kind of normal, like these lads that murdered people,
like when you find out a why the murdered the
person and bay some of the stuff that they're doing in.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
The interview, like oh, these people are just like yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
Like not like one guy I watched it's like early twenties,
he just literally for no reason. He was like he'd
befriended these guys like and they were older than him
and a small neighborhood I think, and he said to
the people like the people I think of fighting around
for or maybe he went around for a beer and

(58:54):
a smoke and your man was being friendly to him.
He was like, oh, like I think the guy the
murder had expressed like that he.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
Wanted to do some trades work or something.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
In was like, I tell you what. He was like,
I've got some stuff out and the shed there or
some like nails and some other stuff I can give
you if you want to take him, like get the
water goes and just said your man just cuts his
fucking neck, no for no reason, and he literally says
an interview he goes, oh yeah, no, there was no reason.
And did he liked he wanted to do this. He
wanted to say, yeah he could. He liked the military

(59:25):
and he couldn't get into it, so he.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Wanted to Yeah, some of these people are fucking.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
And like he was like straight facet dead ass talking
to the interviews going. They were like, do you want
a coup, couple of half or anything, and he was like, oh,
could I have like a joint and a bear like
a coffee or something, and they were like, we can't
give you a joint, like a straight face, just like
like that's what I'm saying. Like these people are just
like you're going like the.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
Lord said, knock and the door will be opened onto you,
and yeah, but you're right, yeah, because to do something
like that in the first place. Yeah, like you know
if you was. Some of the interesting on are the
girls who killed their boyfriends, Like, look at a few
of those, Like, no, they're like flirt and to be fair,
some of them are quite attractive women. They're flirting with

(01:00:09):
the police since I don't kill them all and then
as they just slowly pay away. Way, there's another girl
who just killed her parents because she was like, I
wanted to date and they weren't letting me date. Like,
it's just some of the stuff is like stuff that
we would know people who were in similar situations either
your parents that you can't date to you're sixteen, or
you can't do this, you can't do that, And basically

(01:00:30):
they're just like, yeah, no, fuck them, they're dead. A
little crypt.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
A little crypt no matter how nuts you think you are,
or maybe there's people out there that are just completely
fucking fucked.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
I think the other side as well is they either
don't have enough foresight, so a lot of people don't.
Everyone has impulses to do shit they shouldn't do, but
you have the wherewithal to go if I do this,
the likelihood is this, this and this, Do you know
what I mean? So like, if I'm in a queue
and there's an old lady paying with pennies and taking
forever to do it, I might have an impulse to

(01:01:09):
kick her in the face, but I know that that's
not a good idea, And like, first of all, I'll
feel terrible remorse after I do it, because I would
have hurt someone over something trivial. I have to say
that on the podcast. But second of all, I won't.
There's no way to get away with that, do you
know what I mean? And even if i could get
away with it, the guilt I'd feel afterwards would meet.

(01:01:29):
So I just you go. So your brain calculates all
this really fast, and you're better off just staying here
in line and just waiting. Deep breaths, deep breaths. One
day you'll be the old fart with pennies.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
I read a case this week in Ireland where the
ma and that brought in the child into the bedroom.
Your man was about seventeen, and that I was like
up and right mad her she got into the bed roll.
The man under that recorded at all and then was
like yeah, great stuff. And so the person then had

(01:02:02):
to jump out the window and run down the roads
to like his friend's house and like he when he
was running down the country or no, there was a
car behind him, he jumped into a fucking ditch because
he thought that it might be the family coming after him.
So he was basically just forced to write his math.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
And he obviously didn't because I thought you were gonna
be like there just a family of fucking freaks. Then
the king was into it because he had probably been.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
That's so he Al was in court this week. They
got obviously, they got tried in Ireland.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
On the man, like the man wasn't being manipulated.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
Like she was apologetic. She was like sorry about that,
but from Arsonal, but you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
But sure, look.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
But that's what I'm saying. There's grim people. There's people
out there that are just beyond grim.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
But it has to be just like because you can't
just like it's not like you're just having tea.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
I think Andrew and there were drug up Like but
she the man had said that she had been abused,
and I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Sure they were both abused. That makes it been abused
as a child.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Yeah, yeah, but like do you want to break the
cycle then, like do you know what I mean? Like
for fox sake. I think the problem is that the
trauma makes you want to do substances. The substances then
diminish your responsibility, but make you want to fucking get
all horned out of Like we were talking about earlier, rotimints.
You started talking hoping, and.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
The other part of what you're trauma is oftentimes if
something that some of the reasons I think that people
might have these weird sexual tics is that if something
bad happens to you when you're young, your brain tries
to it's trying to help. Yeah, it turns it into
a kind of like a player, not a pleasurable things

(01:03:53):
the wrong way saying it, but it tries to. It
tries to make it not hurts you as much, obviously
not recognizing that that could potentially go on to hurt
I'm not saying that anyone who's been abused is good
to do like that, That's what I'm saying. No, but
you know what I mean, Like, like so if you've
been like if you aren't aware of that, that could

(01:04:14):
then obviously spit out and cause a lot of trouble,
which is just it's an awful thing, but you can
sort of have it's like the way your brain gives
you anxiety and you're going, why am I worried? This
is stupid? But it's your brain trying to protect you. Yeah,
your brain is just a stupid idiot. Yeah, exactly. And
it's I was free, he's free, but a what cost?
Like you know it went now to be fair living
with them, it's probably a much better such situation, but

(01:04:37):
that it's an awful play.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
The saying in the body snatcher treat makeer remember and
then you know that she's a body snatcher.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
Yeah, because no man would do that except this seventeen
year old.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
I remember Welles was probably like ten or eleven, was
as bart down and the man that was got down
and rent out with and of course I was like,
should we get in The body snatcher was about that,
and the man walked in no joke when the man had.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
To do these out on the thing, and she was
like turn it off.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Another another thing I got in trouble for.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
Why did you get in trouble for it?

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Because I put him up.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
To boy, the ma should have been I always got
in trouble for all that man should have been like,
you can't get invasion of the body just because that's
for boys that are older than you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
No, I was always the one causing trouble back then. Though.
There was another time where were we were camping in
the Met's garden. We're all probably like nine or time,
and it was like the middle of the night. We're
all in the tent and I was like Carson, swearing
and blind like the mass outside the tenth and she's like, Robert,
what are you saying, your mother? Yeah, and now you know,

(01:05:47):
here we are and educating everyone on the ways of
the world.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
And read the nature of reality and psychological trauma. Yea,
rob I didn't. The only thing I did, Like I said,
I watched this a TV show called Boots, which is
based on a memoir of a of a guy who
joined the Marines. Yeah, he was gay, and I think
it came out in like twenty sixteen. Yeah, anyone that

(01:06:11):
it's an excellent TV show, Right, You feel fucking terrible
for these lads in the military that are like body
and they're just even though no.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
One, no one's got to check out a look at arsenal.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
Yeah, there's a bit of that. And I was probably happy,
though not one would lad not be because they can't
be openly gay because then they'll get the same. But
that's fair enough.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
But you know what I mean that I you candy
for if you're a gay lad, you know you're going
happy there. Yeah, but it would be like that would
be from the vosk on too, like some fucking sorority
thing or something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
We couldn't be straight, so like you should go to
the sorority thing and they'd be like, you better not
be looking at these girls. Yeah, and also think of
it that like these are lads who will just beat
the ship out of you if you're gay.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
So it's very different by about when I said Oskondos sorority,
I mean when we would have to do that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:06):
So yeah, I think it's best may that, but it's
a but that that would be the equivalent is like
if you're again justund by you know finance dudes.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
Yeah, so that part is probably good. I think it's
the fact that you can't be gay, like.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
It's it's it's horrible the way they portray it is like,
but I want to say that it is just on
trying the Marines. But then a lot of gay people
are going to say, well, I should be able to
I agree with that, but then I'm the kind of
person that will be just like I'm not bother.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
With the hassle. Well, I think this fella is like to.
So basically the idea is he's been bullied most of
his life because people recognize there's something different about him,
I suppose, and this is in a real homophobic society. Yeah,
I think it's based around like that. He's in the
military in the eighties, I think so like for him,
it's like trying to become trying to become strong, you know,

(01:08:03):
and trying to become tough, and he does without giving it.
In away about about the TV show, it also goes
into other people's like stories, some of the leaders, and
it gets into how they've come to be in this place.
But it's just a fucking awful thing to like consider,
and you see it nowadays as well, sort of raising
its head with all this fucking mad ship.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
So on Netflix.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Watch it was on Netflix. It's very good though, very good.
Oh yeah, oh sorry, that's right. That comment we had
about the Netflix is the trans agenda. But why you
tell a story about a lad who's gay in the
military when it's I legal to be gay that's based
on a book called The Pink Marine, Like, you know, like,
why wouldn't you tell that story?

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
Of course I watch the Netflix.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
I watched it, and I said, I wish I was
gay in the military.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
That's why you're watching this, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
I mean, it's a really good TV show. Though it's
a really good TV I don't watched.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
As I watched this week was The Celebrity Traders also
features the game and actually Celebrity Celebrity Traders as will
be called the Celebrity Gaze really because it's it's it's
probably seventy I said, Traders Traders, The Traders. Lots of
gay representation of that. Actually, yeah, you've got your Alan Carr.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
You've got who's great. He's a Trader.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
And by the way, a couple of guys being the guys.
Lots of lots of people Don John and Ross is
in it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
Yeah, he's one of the Straights.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
I forgot. I kind of naturally like John Ross and
he's a ball end is he he is a balland yeah,
because he did that amount of time. He hate him
and Russell brand rang up.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
Just take you back, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Remember that Manuel sucking.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
They were talking about Randall whatever the pretty fucking yeah,
just I'd look back on that. I'm Christian and.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
He was man, you know, I I was laughing about
like watching John and Ross probably back to all like
that tabloid British era of like where they used to
call him wasssy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
She's interviewing Dwayne Johnson and he just kept calling him
the walk, the walk, the walk.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
That's the Asian rock. No, it's goods crack. I enjoy
Traders spin milked to death at the minute, as any
sort of good idea is.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
But crack.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
It's good fun Alan cars going and now I'm looking
forward to saying how he gets on with He's a
funny dude, Like even him wearing the trailers hold looks funny.
He's just he just looks funny. He's just really funny
character but and also far good. I'm enjoying us. I
don't know who I want to win charge churches in it. Well, yeah,

(01:10:56):
that was heady from the Valleys. Watch out welt Welch.
It's a coming full article now, yeah, sure believe it there?

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
Yeah, I think so, I haven't done it. And that
was that interesting. This week, I can't think of anything interesting,
played a bit of Alan Wake, watched watched all the
watched all the gay guys in the military, and felt
bad that that thing happened. That. I felt bad that
they went through this in the eighties. I felt bad

(01:11:29):
for my gay brothers. And yeah, it's hard being persecuted
just because you're Anybody who gives a fuck that someone
is gay is a fucking moron. And that's my official stance.
That's controversial. How was that any anybody who's anybody who's like, oh, no,

(01:11:49):
you shouldn't be getting all they shouldn't be allowed to
have kids off.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
In America for that saying that though, let them I'll
come back a great in this reality.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
The straight the white straighter ConfL we don't need straight
men to save us. No. I was just fucked up
like it did. Portrays it well, and it made me angry.
People were shitty like that. Poor gay lads fucking annoyed me.
I felt felt up in arms, and I wanted the
gay Marines to be happy, And in the end I

(01:12:23):
think that they were happier they were at the start.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
They're staying there is gay Marines.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
Then the main the main Fellah, yeah, stop listening if
you want to watch it. The main fella like, yeah,
decides to stay in the Marines. Yeah, but no one
knows he's gay because you're not will be gay, and
there's like, so I'm gonna give all the spoilers away
and watch it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
Pretty sorry he started being gay and.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
He's no, no, no, no, no, you're you you're not. You've
you've done a misservice to this TV show. So his
one of his commanding officers is gay, but you don't
know he's gay. And as a transpires, he's transpiders.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
Interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
Interesting. There's no people in the military in the Breeds,
I believe, but there should have been if they're if
they can shoot other people, if they can go out
to the desert and shoot people from different ethnic but
already that's fine, No, it's maybe they do onet like
maybe I don't know. You see all they have all
this to look forward to in the like you know

(01:13:27):
when they are like sound to gay lads, they can
have TV shows. They might be.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
They won't because Bill Barrow he told jokes and he
revolutionized I should have made him of comedy. Ye, modern
day philosopher, the greatest minds.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
Of greatest minds.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
Ever so how many more weekends of you watching Netflix?
Does it tech for you to be transreconed, because pretty
soon now I think we're going to have Yeah, we
have to work out with your name for you.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
Amy transitions very well? Yeah, no I might. I might
get diddies and keep the cock and then like, is
that like a cool trans I would probably do that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
I mean, you know, are you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
Gonna spend fucking five random paradiddies? Just not?

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
Why go.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
Even doing? What are we doing on this podcast?

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
Hair cut? What you going for now?

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
I can't really grow my hair long because it's too
Ronald McDonald, it's too it's too puffy. And yeah, taking
a wig? Yeah what color would you be on for now?
Big to be pink or blue? But you know, because
I have to, I have to do the whole experience.
But I definitely big diddies and a fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Full of sure making.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
I know, I get make it be like a fucking
fucking sick grub and then I have to I have to.
I probably get some I guess somebody's fat jump in
and I get a big, nice round ars on me
so like, and i'd wear little mini skirts and to
accentuate my iars. Yeah, yeah, I'll probably need one of those. Anyways.

(01:15:16):
I just put a bit of good extra garth on
it and just shake them hips.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
Maybe pitch this to Netflix or Transitions.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
Yeah, I'd say Netflix would buy it. Day three, he's
calm on his own tits again. Past consider shaving the beard.
Oh no, no, no, I keep the beard. Now.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
I need to get on some of them hormones to
get myself a beard, because I'm I can't crow one.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
So already trans already have that walker. I haven't man
just big diddies as well. Yeah, half weather, yeah, whire
what like? What kind of what would your trans because
you don't have a lot of hair either, your stream
and like a seed that Yeah, if you could swim,

(01:16:02):
you'd swim.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
Fast, be like microphone never.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
You've never descended into the abyss of the ocean. Well,
you know what they say, the female of the species
is more deadly than male. But how deadly are you
when you're a male? Turn female and you're the most deadly? True?

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
Yeah, I'm too tall though, I'd stand out a bit
right now.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
Yeah, I know, to be fair, like whenever you see
did you ever see your girl? Like above? Six foot
as she just automatically looks at you and goes.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
Yeah, you there is because you're taller than there is.
I've had that look.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
Anything to yourself, Get out of here, you fucking big.
No way, I'm not looking at it with my firner.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
No way. That's not funny how that works, isn't that?
It's just something as simple as like you're tall, is
like you.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
Know, that's yeah, just being tall, just existing. Yeah, it's feeding.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
And then I'm being short as a man. You're fucked.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
Really most of my always done well, yeah, don't because
they're aggressive.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
Really, let me climb up here, climb up here.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
Like your cast climbing up meow. It must be weird though,
like I've never been with the guy who was taller
than me.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
I now that I'm married for life, I will never.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
Be Yeah, why not marriage that?

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
Yeah, well you find a six or six girls you
want to go to the w n B A. Yeah,
I just like a bit of stranger yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
I'm as good as married, I think, I.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
Think, yeah, alas yeah, no one, Look, when do you
think your proper midlife crisis?

Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
Listen, crist for me, I'm already dead. Oh you home, man,
My my midlife crisis could be dramatic. It could be
as cataclysmic as the Big blank Big Bang.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
It could be you might get diddies.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
No, I could end up like fucking mad, like I
could go full mental maybe for my midlife crisis. I've
seen that kind of rapturous midlife crisis, and I have
it in me. I do have it in me. I
acknowledge it. It's dangerous.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
Boss.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
If I say, if I stay substance free, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
Do you think that's what's getting you through? It's like, yeah,
you don't really drink, you don't smoke, you don't I
wonder how I could never, But do you think that
if you started? Because I've seen you. I've seen you
like one of those pennies that you put into the
charity thing in a shop and it goes around and
around and around. And when you drink like you're.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
Well able to oh yeah, no, no, like look.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
And you like to stand and bang and.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
Parodying would get me, I'd say, if I was in
with the wrong group or something, I'd say I could
get sucked into that as a midlife crisis. Probably, yeah,
I do. Yeah. I think it depends on your situation. See,
the thing is, if I have babbies, by the time
I get to what I would class is like vintage
midlife crisis edge.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
You'll already be like sixty or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
No, yeah, but no, no, But I mean, like you know,
I would say middle life crisis. It's around forty forty
four or forty five. I think if I have babbies
by that age, I'll have like a four or five
year old or something.

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
You just won't have time for. No, I won't be
able to. Yeah, as a forty one year old, I
can say that's you haven't you had all of No. No,
I definitely have the But it's not anything new for me,
like my midlife crisis, true existential dreadnine. Oh wow, this again.
There's nothing that my life can give me that it
hasn't already tried to kick me around with. So I

(01:19:46):
think I got all my bullshit out of the way
when I was younger, and now when it comes back,
I'm just like, oh, yeah, I feel the fucking shit
that I'm not gonna like get a Prince Albert Coker, Like,
I'm not gonna do anything that is gonna you know,
because I'm I'm old enough when I've lived through enough
to know that getting a lip ring isn't going to
change anything. Getting an earring isn't going to change anything,

(01:20:07):
Like dye in your hair isn't going to make you younger.
Like it's all fucking It's all a fool's err and
just get on with it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
Most mid life crisises revolve around like either you want
more attention, you want buttsy do you want to party?
It's like a lot of it is like things that
I think you really missed out on when you were younger.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
I think we got all that out of our.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
Until I was thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
Well right now, like I I even with drinking, I
love just sitting down and having a few drinks to myself.
Like so like even though I know talk a whole alcoholic,
I talk a good game about drinking, but it's all garbage.
I like to just have a couple of glasses whiskey
by myself. I'm not leggy going to bed a couple
of glass We have a smoke now. To be fair,
I haven't been drinking much last week drink about half

(01:20:55):
a bottle whiskey on Friday. But aside from that, I
haven't read. But I like you. I know when you
said to me last week, like imagine drinking a Leader
bottle or like a full bottle of whiskey a week,
And I was like, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
Yeah, I was real bad for your body, Like, oh.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
It's terrible for you. Yeah, I read the other day
this fucked me up. Smoking one cigarette a day, according
to the science people, is as bad as smoking twenty
Why because how does it make sense?

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
None of it really matters on us. It's like a
direct thing on you, to be honest, because it's just
like who cares anymore? If as long as you're not
doing enough to be really detrimental, like a bottle of
whisky a week is really detrimental.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
I went through a period I did that week like.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
I did a bottle spirits a week in my early
twenties more, and I felt like shit, I kind of
looked out in a sense that like my worst healthier
is in my early twenties because I was just parodying
I'm being sanitary. Like it was like a combination of
parodying all the time and then sitting on me home
playing video games all the so I was like I
felt like a slug.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
Yeah, you see, I'm relatively active. But again I think
it's just getting it. It's like with the cigarettes, I said,
it's habitual. You get into habits of doing stuff, and
when you're out of him, it doesn't bother you as much.
But the problem I have his drugs were never an
issue for me because I was they fucked me mentally
too much, whereas alcohol hits the sweet spot for me,

(01:22:19):
whereas it doesn't fuck me up mentally. I don't go
overboard but what I'm drinking, But it's obviously to your point,
it's not good for you to do. But it's just
a bit excessive.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
That's like by quantity, a bottle of spirits per week.
The spirits are so strong, Like it's like.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
If you're having roy in you're living. Yeah, if you're.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
Having like a bottle of beer a night or something,
that's a lot more reasonable. Yeah, But a bottle of
fucking whiskey a week is all about the.

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
Whiskey a week is like what if you divide a
sorts one hundred miles of whiskey's all actually is one
hundred day. Yeah, so that's like three shots a day.
It doesn't seem that accessively.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
There are a surly sort of wine of you.

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
I like that. It's one of my favorite things about myself.
But to be fair, yet, like I said, outside of
that Friday didn't drink. I didn't really drink. Outside that,
you do come into Monday feeling bit better. I was
talking to someone in work and they were just saying
that they had given up alcohol, and they had said
about how their anxiety was way better. And I'm sure

(01:23:24):
there's definitely some sort of Yeah, there must be a
relationship there. But again, like I said, I don't like
when people say drinking the people that they're their mind
conjures up like drinking, drinking, and then there's like drinking,
and then there's like having a beer a day. Like
you said, there's levels to this ship. I would say,

(01:23:44):
I'm not quite, not quite an Alex Pereira shrinking, but
I think I would be a good journey man like Chris.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
White drinking perhaps wants a champion now.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
And then Chris Leban, Sorry that Chris Whiteman, I was
I was a keeper.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
Yeah, no, but it's funny, right because a lot of
the time I'm like a blank slate and that I
don't have any substances in me. Yeah, but I would
still struggle with like mental health issues, Like yeah, so
it's not like the be all and end all. So
that's the other side of it, and it can help obviously,
things like anxiety. If you give up something, if you
give up anything like that's I think a lot of

(01:24:22):
people get sucked into this as like I tried Jordan
Peterson's vampiric fucking mince diet, Yeah, and now I feel great.
It's like, or I try them, I'm gluten free now
and I feel great. Yeah, Like if you do any
kind of drastic kind of change, you will feel a
certain type of way no matter what.

Speaker 1 (01:24:41):
Like I have to Alloyd myself, I was like, I've
had fucking mental health issues since I was eight. Yes,
they're not going like do you know what I mean?
So you get better at managing It's like what they
say about grief, The grief doesn't diminish, Your capacity to
manage grief gets bigger. Same with like anything with like
resistance train and fucking whatever, like adrenaline. Your ability to

(01:25:02):
manage adrenaline gets better the more times you're in adrenaline
fire situations and a dread that's effectively anxiety. But that's it. Yeah,
you just get better at managing it. Your your your
your glass gets bigger. But the ingredients are there. There's
loads of things you can do to help it, for sure.
One of the things I learned about anxiety is like
when it's there, like, welcome it in and it will

(01:25:24):
that's the best exactly, well, giving it a glass of whiskey,
but they do whiskey is a weird one. Isln slaunch
it anxiety. But when when you have the anxiety can
turn on you with the whiskey.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
Yeah, that's why I don't like drinking.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
I feel horrible, not even the next day though. When
you go to better whiskey, your brain is just like
as it starts, it's just like it's almost like if
someone said, like the demons trying to get into your body,
that's the moment and they just whisper to you. You know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
When we did go to dealing with that as well
more whiskey, we did a stream it just that comes
drinking video games. Like that night I went to bed
and I was like, fuck me, like I feel rotten.
It's just like all the negative things you can conjure
up about everything there.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
What starts to happen is when you're on the you're good.
If you keep drinking, you're good. But when then it's
it goes, that's when we have trouble. Like unusually, like
I was saying, I don't start drinking till late, I'll
have a few drinks and I'll go to bed, so
you kind of buy you pass it all. But every
now and then I found myself in the spot where
I started getting the hebg hole. Yeah, and you're just like,
I'm here now, you know, and you have to just

(01:26:33):
And it's weird because you have kind of a diminished
capacity to be. You can't be reasonable to the same
extent that you could be, but you feel reasonable, you
feel rational. Whiskey is a phony one for that. But
I'm sorry, big big fan.

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
Yeah, relocably with the Fox, the good Langwateres. Yeah, covered
everything there by, Yeah, big for fucking ghosts, fucking whatever
we want.

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
Murderers will we will? We wind up because we have
to record an the one name. Last time we tried
to record this.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
We'll get it now, we'll get it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
I'm fed up, We'll get it. THN. I'm already fed up.
But I'd rather just talk about who knows.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
Tune in find out next month, the rob
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