Mini Fuzz: Cuban Atlantis

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
A crypt and this is a scriptor I want to
quick against my enemies. Yeah, so you wanted to say,
and then at little raise you but appleget you from
the wielder. Hello everyone, what is up by Rob? It

(00:32):
is baby Mini ful in the book center.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Oh yeah, I was in the box and lads, how's
everyone that won't hope? You're having a god? There we are.
It's it's the fly Flock extra right now. We had
one of these last year. It's the Irish Music Festival
thing track music Bang a Block.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Edge Sharon was there today. Edge Sharon was there today.
It was like, yeah, Sharon playing the sky in the round,
which pretty cool. Yeah, And it was like I wasn't there. Yeah,
it was a pretty cool thing.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
We walked by like we like we we were on
the town when it happened, like we were literally walking
by the alley weather to the sky and everyone was like,
oh I Sharon, And I was.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Like, were you all?

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Like I actually, to be honest with you, from memory,
I don't know any Sharon songs.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
As soon as I heard him, I started like the
super catchy like to be fair, it's probably not my
cup of tea, but it's hired like they're well written.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
If you went to when I was sharing a concert,
you know every song and you have to crack. But like,
I don't know any of his shoes, like offhand, if
you get me, like I couldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Just as soon as you hear it, like the words
everything exactly. Yeah, but that's that.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
That is so he's actually his granny is from Mixford,
so he came down for the flat.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
But yeah, An, it's a pretty exciting thing. That's cool
because he's probably the biggest celebrity you've ever played in
the sky. You know, I would imagine for yourself. Of
course I would play sharing and then you.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Shared me Rodrigo gabri theres got slacks.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
If Rodrigo and Gabrieller playing, they're just kind of around there,
not that big and that way.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
But then Sharon just come down to Grace present. I
think it's cool. It's pretty cool thing, especially like there's
a real like look flazing for everyone. The music itself,
I trad music, yeah, Irish trad music. A lot of
cool little things and where like I was saying to
you the other day, the one I saw the other day,
they're doing like trad versions of beat the song it's
fun to listen to. You know, the buzz around town

(02:48):
is good sometimes when you're in the midst of the
waves of people.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, this is frustrated, getting a bit long in the
To be fair, we one liked it before that either, But.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
No, if they had grunge Fest, yeah, guest, not even
the paper like grunge Fester than be way more annoying
than the people. I think everyone everyone is just annoying.
Now we'll have to say as a concerned member of
the public, you know, I saw young girls with skirts

(03:20):
that were fired too high. Oh yeah, that's like a train.
But dude, it's like there was a girl, she must
have been like sixteen or seven, hanging out. You could see. Yeah,
like it was I'm saying that. I'm saying that, but
I was. I'm rarely shocked. I was like, this is
fucking insanity.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
The I was walking around it or I kind of
half cocked, and I was like, the aesthetic at the
minute is not like that.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Wait a second. It was like the aesthetic is.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Kind of the nineties now at the minute, where everyone's
just more and whatever the fuck they find the Remember,
everyone looks like different, Like you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
There's like there's no notation, like.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Everyone is just like it's everyone's wearing whatever the fuck.
It's like a bizarre If you look around on a
night out now with the currently, it's just everyone's fucking
looks mad, you're like, okay, cool, like the full gamut
of madness going on.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Because remember, like there used to be like like those
baggy jeans.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
That the girls would wear a low cut or something
of those were like hipster's kind of ye.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
You had to be like the stomach to wear it,
but then they were baggy, so like it was like
here's the arst, but you won't see the rest of
the like and then like a tube top type thing. Yeah,
there's a lot of that going around. But I don't know. Yeah,
as has fashion peaked, will it never be good again?

(04:35):
I don't know. We'll get back to it.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Later, but before we do, we'd like to remind everyone
we were on page if.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
You like the support the podcast. Also, I'm going.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
To announce now that we are going back to video,
but we would like to have a sort of a
more improved video. The problem with the video was, well,
one of the problems is that I was using my
camera for my phone which is grand because it's actually
nowadays your phone cameras actually pretty decent. But you're all
run out of space because we do long format and

(05:04):
the lighting I never really picked ou up properly. So
we are going to kind of try and put the
failures out for a crowdfund on a camera for the
video segment. I will put that up on our Instagram
maybe today as you're hearing this, and it will be
probably linked to just like a the coffee page we
have or something, and you could just contribute to us.

(05:25):
We're probably going to be looking for something in the
in the bones of about a grand to get a
decent camera, to be honest with you, but we'll put
the failers out there see if anyone can help out,
because me and M and very poor famished people we're living,
we don't have these in our pants. Do this flat
twenty eur lobster all the down to the flat.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Seventeen, but still if you're un up, that's twenty, just
like you're just charging what they want twenty three, or
for a takeaway ballon is a takeaway giving that away
in ancient Italian that's about thirty or thirty dollars. You
know what is going a bit for a peasant food.

(06:03):
But even going doing the shopping, we did the shot.
We bought a few bits for tomorrow, one hundred and
twenty oil. Yeah, well twenty, but like it was like
literally just a bag of spinach, roccoli, cherios, muscles, no
cheerios on.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Buying bags and muscles and exactly like I'm trying to
eat seafood, do you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
I'm trying to eat the mollusks of the sea. I'm
trying to be good, to be charging. I remember I
used to be doing the whole shopping when I lived there.
Forty quid. I have all meat stuff that I need,
no fags and cans, but just the necessities forty quid
and always get an all big thing of salami the raw, yeah,

(06:46):
stick of I take a few bites deep in the nice.
I'm trying to deep in spicyesa maybe from along the
thoughts of the hold into my bed in my head.
So yeah, folks, that's the crack.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
So I'm going to put the faders out there on
Instagram and Petreon and stuff like that. If we can
crowd from the bit, that would be great. It's just
to get you know, something a bit better, so we
can make a nice return to video. I know so
many people miss Ammon's beautiful, beautiful face, sexiest podcaster, sexiest.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Broadcasts from your neighborhood, so we have to get that started. Yeah,
well Rob is shown a lot of legs, so there
I am. You're gonna have to imagine strong, mascular I'm
looking at his legs, lice.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Hold it in a light tread mill this morning class
treadmill inclined fifteen. I'm working out like them Brazilian bitch
as well and walk through like.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
A Brazilian a lot more.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
They just naturally jo like have to keep it up,
do you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Doesn't keep itself off. The brazil is the second biggest
country for surgeries after the What do you think about
like just putting foreign I don't like inside.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
You Like I get it, like I do get it
from a mental health perspective, But I'm always like and
I've I've said that on this podcast. I think only recently,
but like I am for me, I suppose if I'm
being entirely honest, my my logic would be with someone

(08:42):
like like you're your find the way are a lot
of the time and it's not as big of an
issue as you think it.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Is the biggest that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
It's like the psychology, like sure, for example, like a
lot of time it would be a guardlet wants the
surgery on some part of their body. A lot of
the time it's like you look fine. Like now, don't
get me wrong. If that's someone that's like fucking Eddie
Stone and they have a gastric body pass or something,
go ahead, knock yourself out.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
But there are well there's a difference between kind of.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
Health series or you know, getting back and then just
like an en giant face like you have like a
pair of double c's like gesg so that so that
kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Like like with some people there are things with their
body that are just deeply ingrained psychological problems that have
been maybe even highlighted or they were teased about as
they were kids. And I know personally with that kind
of stuff, you can't get away from it.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
It's very difficult brain really fucking rough.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Like now you could probably if you went to a
lot of council maybe work it out, but like it
is one of those things for those people where I
can see it and they're just like there's something in
my brain that I can't get past, and I know
that doing this will get me past it. Then I
get it because it just changes their mental stateswitch.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
The other side as well. Sometimes it's like there's a
certain thing and you think when I get this thing,
whether it's a job or whatever, when I get the
saying everything would be good, and then then you have
your fake iris or whatever, and you're like, no, it
does happen. Yeah, do you know what I mean? Like
like you you're still you and if you're and again, look,
we're all insecure about whatever about our bodies or our characteristics,

(10:23):
our personality whatever. We all have ship that we're we're wario.
But it is a bit of a weird thing. I
do think, Like when you see some people, like like
people who are very attractive, but it's like they've made
that such an important part about their sort of whole image.
That's like I know, I know people, and I'm just like,
why did you do that, Like because they were so

(10:45):
attractive beforehand. I'm like there was no reason, Like you know,
it doesn't change a whole up. But again to your point, yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
And then there's some people then that are just attracted
to the esthetic of like they want to look like
what they're like look and I.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, which is fair as well, I think I.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Think so it's for me, it's a shallow pursuits, but
I do get it. I'm the flip side of that is,
I'm not attracted the exact opposite that they were crusty
ass walking motherfuckers.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
So it's like I don't agree with that. You know,
there's the middle ground, yeah, for sure, Like when people
are starting to going like I am beautiful, Like no,
you're fucking morbidly and you're like you're a mess.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
It's not even that, it's more like just people who
have absolutely all sulff care. But then like no one's perfect,
Like I mean I I.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Weird. Yeah, but we're now we're like average looking blokes
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Very sexual man but well yeah, but again average looking,
just very it's a problem problem.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
I was reading about some company in Spain and they
have like mandatory breaks. I think it's a porn company,
to be fair, But it came up like and you
know that they tried to catch you with the headlin
you know, Facebook or whatever. I was like, what the
fuck is this because it sounds like something that some
company you do, like something the Spanish would do. Yeah,
they'd be well. To be fair, I'd say, look, if

(12:09):
you're at work passion and you're you're you're going to
flick that and that's what you're going to do yourself.
You want work?

Speaker 2 (12:17):
No, no, no work in the kitchens. You don't really
have the opportunity.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Working in the kitchen. You couldn't. I've never even considered
workless bulchers. I'm not Gonnath hands and you could probably
get yourself a weird fetish there. Yeah, probably be gross,
be gross field places of liver.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
No, I never No, I can't say, I.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Know intestines, I know.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
I wouldn't be well if any Australian with their working
the stories are working from all these games or any
spooky experiences were and.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah, yeah, if you're having weird cooolish wanks, send in
your story at Monster Fuzz podcast at gmail dot com.
Do you work as some sort of a grave digger
and would you have a quick wank? Then there's a yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
That whole industry is interesting as well as that's the
whole funeral homes not.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Only funeral director is because no one does it play
as well, apparently it play as well. And it might
be tricky in Ireland just because it's we're a smaller place,
but in America they say, like it's a really good way.
It's just you have to obviously be empathetic, but also
have enough of a boundary to not take on constant
waves of sadness yourself. Man, Like tyers In goes.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Out, if you just had about the troll set my fire,
that's grand, but like if you have to deal with
the whole.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Embament and all like that, scram Yeah. Yeah, well I
think they were saying a funeral director, there's something to
do with sales and funerals and all this sort of stuff.
I don't know how it like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
There's lots of like you know, funeral homes, lots of
people that they will do, lots of different things like,
but there are motherfuckers that have to like pull urishes out.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Like yeah, pull out and testings and all them. Yeah
my fucking cotton wool. Yeah yeah, no, we have Yeah,
that's it, like August, you know, it's it's it is
a kind of a mad one and you do, like anything,
you become desensitized, so to you dead bodies would just
be Yeah, I don't know, the worst day of your life.

(14:28):
I wouldn't. And that's think about money as well as
lads are.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Like brown bodies now like to de blow like something
left for dead or something and you have to.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Pull it in the coffin. Yeah, yeah, well there is
going to be like.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Just stuff yamic organ after a motorbike accident, or like
I'm all g for that closed casket.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
I just have aiming. Only those closed caskets are.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Just yeah, just furness likes gets closed and no one
knows the.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Benefit is that there's nothing. We're just going to don't
you don't do nothing cheap. Actually, I wonder if you're
just cheap. You're like if you're going to stick him
in this trumen fire poorly fashioned and he's just disclosed,
we throw him into the ground, off your pop. No,
you don't even just barn up him. That's it. You
don't the ground.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
There's too much effort to just come him, send him
true on the.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Papers, bisch pash bosh.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
You know you're going, and that could be quite enjoyable.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Experts called crack. Yeah, melted bodies.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Melted bodies now, and I'm going to take this one away.
I feel did you did you know that there is
an atlantis like group of structures off the cost of Cube.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
I did not.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Someone called Graham Hackclock. He's going to have to come down.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
This must be only five or six hundred years old.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
So this is interesting. This is like, it might be
kind of almost conspiratorial.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Just ladser said and each other. So just reverend. People
have started to just say their scenes. The last one
they came through was quite funny after of it.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
So the Cuban Underwater Formation is a site thought to
be submerged a submerged granite structural complex off the coast
of Guana has Cabbebes Peninsula in the Pinar del Rio
province of Cuba.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
So on.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Our images, interpreted as being symmetrical and geometric stone structures
resembling an urban complex, were first recorded in early two
thousand and one. Now these covered an area of two
square kilometers at depths of six hundred meters and seven
hundred and fifty meters, so quite.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
A bit under the water. I suppose.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
The discovery was reported by Paulina A. Zelitzky, a marine engineer,
and her husband Paul Winswig, owners of a Canadian company
called Advanced Digital Communications working on an exploration and survey
mission in contruction with the Cuban government. The team returned
to the site a second time with an underwater remotely

(17:16):
operated vehicle that films on our images. Interpreted's various pyramids
and circular structures made out of massive, smooth blocks of
stone that resembled human granite. Zelitski said, it's a really
wonderful structure which really looks like it could have been
a large urban center. However, it would be totally responsible

(17:39):
to say what it was before we have any evidence now.
National Geographic Senior editor John kave Ekkeev said they are
interesting anomalies, but Dutch as much as anyone can say
right now, I'm no expert on sonar, and until we're
able to actually go down and see it will be

(18:01):
difficult to characterize them. Professor of Oceanography Robert Ballard was
called as saying.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
That's too deep.

Speaker 5 (18:08):
I'd be surprised if it was human. You'd have to
ask yourself, how did you get there. I've looked at
a lot of sonar images in my life, and it
can be some sort sort of like looking at an
ink plot it's like a roarshack. People can sometimes see
what they want to see. And he says he'll wet
for more data. So another person why is saying this

(18:31):
is marine.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Geologist Manual Itterralde. He called for more samples before drawing conclusions,
saying that the results too were so far or sorry,
the results so far were very unusual. He had estimated
that it would have taken fifty thousand years for such
structure structures to have actually sunk down that deep, assuming

(18:53):
they were like lost in a kind of atlant this way,
there are no known cultures that would have been living
that long ago and also have had the ability to
build such structures. A specialist in underwater archaeology of Florida
State University added, it would be cool if they were right,

(19:14):
but it would be real advanced for anything we would
see in the New World for that time frame. The
structures are out of time and out of.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Place, which one might expect Atlantis to be.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
The thing is with Cuba, I actually like, I don't know,
because you know, with like all the places around Africa
and that you're like, oh and Greece and all You're like, oh, yeah,
ancient cultures would have probably been there, but the America is.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
On paper, we're.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Supposed to have been settled a lot later. Cuba is
technically part of the America, is right? It is part
of the America's I think so off the coast of Florida.
So assuming like and I'm not one hundred percent sh
around this and I'm not like some kind of Graham
Hank level genius, but humans got to America from China

(20:05):
across the ice so across the pole up there, and
they came down from Alaska. I think that's what they say.
I think that's right.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Were there natives in America before then and that that
that was what that was, how they were the Indians, Yeah,
that's how they got there.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
So so if like, assuming this whole thing is like
a real thing, then that means either A, there were
civilized civilizations before the whole valley thing and like they
did their own thing and they existed all the independently
and we have no traces of them, or B, well

(20:45):
there is no.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
B that's really what it would be.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
I suppose it would have to be unless there was
a whole last side over in the Americas that existed
and did its own thing, and that whole culture was
lost and.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
We've just never found like.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Yeah, there's there's some like statistics where it's like, you know,
it takes X amount of time to lose like traces
of cars x amount of time, stresses buildings, and like
basically like pretty much most things would be gone in
a couple of you know, ten twenty thousand years.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
That Karen Quarry is still there. Yeah, I think that's.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
That's been there for twenty thousand years. Yeah, I think so,
And so you'd wonder like it just I suppose you'd
wonder that, you know, there's that whole last Indian civilization,
like a Native American First Nations kind of thing, where
it looks like they had a big, massive city that
sprawled across America, not sprawled across America, but it was
just a huge ass hub for Native Americans.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
But I think if you even look into some of
the structures they made in caves levels and they had
wildlife in there and all they would have had, they
would have been called Genesis America. Yeah, the Super Nintendo
rather than the Family Jaguar didn't do well. But like

(22:05):
when you think about all that stuff and you think
about the level of I suppose when you have people
have enough time, enough means they will just create things.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
So, you know, I suppose the thing with that whole
thing is like assuming that that is a real thing,
and assuming that it was a civilization that created it,
was like they would have had to have been quite
quite advanced. Yeah, like probably more advanced than the ancient Greeks.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, but I think as well, isn't it when you
start like GoGet by Tepi and all that sort of stuff,
like and they're going, how did they make these engravings?
Blah blah blah blah, And potentially and I'm not saying
it was ancient Aliens or anything like that, but I mean,
potentially they just did have some sort of tools that
we didn't know about. What is it? They call it
the burma light or something. Isn't that how they thought

(22:51):
that it was made with citrus? But that was how
they thought they might have list because there's not enough oxygen,
That's what they said, is there it's very hard to
keep a match lighting, right you were in the pyramids.
But that fucking is bullshit though, because how would you
go in to do stuff if there's not in a
box to keep a match light then you die as well. Yeah,
surely maybe all the stuff that's being inside is just low.

(23:14):
But no, like they did have like you know, these
sort of they were able to generate some sort of
energy from citrus fruits and things like that, something like that,
they could create some kind.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Of like you need to live off citrus fruits.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
They used to mag lights citrus. It was a kid
one of the lads had fired up a thing like
and you can like with the conjuit, you can make
the zest and lemons so zesty, you keep your cloth tickt.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yeah, yeah, there is a lot of that, But I
mean you would have to think that there would have
to be some kind of records of some advanced cool ship, like.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
As these lads say that it's just hanging has got
wiped out and we just left us never known.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah, Like imagine that that whole civilization just lived on
some kind of platau there by Qba after whatever reason,
they thank off of the say, and everything was lost
with us.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
It's like there you go, there's just no because I
guess if you think that this happened before records, it's
like an enclave of aliens. Man.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
But if they're landed on art and they'd set up
kind of like Age of Empires that put their town
center down and they were just gathering berries and all
in there sort of whatever they be down and then
they sucked up the art and fell into the sea.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
You know, Yeah, it is weird to kind of just
fall into the sea, though, isn't it. It is a
strange thing.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
It doesn't happen, doesn't seem to have a bunch now,
even like what they're sort of finding as like potentially
quote unquote Atlantis or like what they think may have
been Atlantis. They reckon it was just like towns built
on kind of flood planes that were last over the years,
and when the sea level rolls and the ocean level roles,
it just yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
You think that so like, if that's the case Atlanta,
this would be a very easy place to find because well,
it's probably not going to be a structure in the
middle of the ocean by itself.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
That's been they've found, like and we've talked about on
the pol I think over the years, it's like they
have found sort of what like because obviously, you know
how it is like a lot of people speculate that
Atlantis is like a folklore thing where it was like
passed down generation to generation about a lost area that
people lived in, and that it's just part of the

(25:26):
human sort of thing to talk about, like we had
this lost civilization, but it could have been literally a
city that was built on a flood plane and was
just lost the time.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
But that's Atlantis. It's not mystical, it's not magical. It
was literally just it is because like we know that
she does claimland reclaim, but like in certain cases, right,
but every culture has some sort of a missing like
in otherland, let's say, tearning over the land of the young.

(25:57):
But we know that that like you're not going to
go to a place where if you step on the
ground you get old, but if you don't step on
the ground, you're sorry. You stay young in this place,
but if you step out of it and you you know,
it's like a Dorian Gray kind of thing. But because
we know that the way that water and oceans work,
you kind of go, oh, well, that is possible. So

(26:18):
maybe it's just it was a legend that it seems
plausible and because of that then yeah, but then again,
when they're finding these structures, man all the time.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Today, Like there's lads that they'll be driving down to
dunk Hannonder and leaving Arda on the beach and I
get swept out by the tide. Like motherfuckers are dumb,
Like there's not like do I think over like a
lifespan of a group of humans that they wouldn't be
thick enough to go, Let's build a housing instead that
are on the fucking out beach, Like it happens like.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
It's in the fucking Bible, isn't it who made the
house on the sand Man?

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Around around Wextord if you drive up on certain places,
like there's houses that are just built like estates that
are built on flood glens and you're like okay, and
they's would have been built like twenty.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
With no pressure.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
In America, like half of Florida is fucking you know
what I mean, dodge as fun and they're still developing lander,
they're still building there. So yeah, no, people are sucking dumb,
Like actually, there there's an example, like it's entirely possible
that in thousands of years, Florida ends up as a
type of Atlantis, like do you know what I mean?
It ends up submerged and a lot of it ends

(27:24):
up lost.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
That would have a cool legend. Loads of alligators under
water protected by dinosaurs effectively solid.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yeah, and look look at Japan, like, I make sure
just last week there's a massive tsunami warn in there.
You know, Japan have built their whole ship on a
massive fault line that gets fucking tsunami that gets from gods,
that comes up everything.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Japan are just like after doing an apocalypse, like, I
don't mind doing this everything. Look how cool it worked
out the last time giant mechs, like this is all right.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
No, but I think long story shorts is a possible
that there are some kind of Los civilizations. Probably yeah,
I mean I think you know, it's easy to kind
of say no, it's stupid and whatever whatever, but like
there are Again, we've talked about them on this podcast,
like defined new types of hominide and shit, and they're like, oh,

(28:16):
there's a type of hamlet that this or that. Obviously,
what most people are going to say is like, oh, well,
if they were building anything significant, we would have evidence
of significant buildings. But again, if they're building mainly say
clay and fucking rock, like that, shit can't get washed away.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Like especially if you're building by the sea.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
So I don't know's it does sound a bit science
fiction y, but I would be interested in hear more
about that. I could potentially there could be grounds for
a full episode there, and yeah, it's interesting stuff. What's
more interesting now theymond is we have stories about a
story rather about ghosts and windsor castle delightful from ready

(28:56):
it was the library rats since nineteen eighty.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Four, any four or good for them? Hi. I used
to work at winder Castle, specifically in the Royal Library,
from the late nineteen eighties until I left in two
thousand and three after my third child was born. I
was starting college in two thousand and three. Sorry about that, Dad,
wasted a lot of your money. I wanted to stay

(29:19):
home with my kids, and honestly, after everything I experienced there,
I was kind of ready to be done. I wasn't
anyone important, just a junior library assistant. Basically I helped
with cataloging, pulling materials. Hey, did you ever get some
pulling materials from the library or like Penthouse, I've.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Been in the library in many years. Man libraries haven't
joined the library many years. Libraries clas library switch games.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeahs, vinyls something called books Library. Proudly. I wouldn't have
any interest in that because you had comic books from there,
a lot in the library, yeah yeah, back when I
couldn't afford them, which is currently as well. It sounds
so the Royal Library is noting to the public, and
everything in there is strictly protected and preserved. We worked

(30:08):
in quiet rooms with controlled temperature and lighting and had
to follow a lot of rules. But here's the thing.
Windsor is haunted as hell like truly, and I didn't
believe in that kind of thing when I started. The
first thing I saw was Queen Elizabeth the first, yes, really.
It was around nineteen ninety two and I was working

(30:29):
late in one of the archive rooms, just shelving. I
turned around and saw a woman in an elaborate old gown,
stiff white collar, red hair, just standing in the doorway.
She didn't say anything, didn't move. I thought I was
going mad. She looked too real to be a hallucination.
I will say, Lizabeth One with that get up is
creepy looking. She looks like a cross between the clown

(30:51):
and like a vampire lady, all the like Elizabethan. Yeah,
all that stuff when they're powdered white and shit.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Frey Collary's word, Yeah, I think it looks spooky.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Then she walked backwards into the wall and disappeared. I
will never forget that image. It was the most bizarre,
unnatural thing I've ever seen. There's a black dog that
shows up around the west side of the library. No
one talks about it officially, but we all know. I
saw twice. It just appears trots by then vanishes when
you turn to look at it properly. Someone once told

(31:24):
me it's connected to a prince who died in childhood.
Who knows. All I know is gave me chills every time.
That's kind of cool. And again it looks could that
have just been, Like we've talked about this before, echoes
of the past, So when like it's just the roots
that they may have walked, you know, things like that,
I think it's good. And that's why oftentimes they'll walk

(31:45):
through walls and just because those in the past, new walls,
man uphos, changing the doors, ye other weird stuff. Footsteps
above you when no one is upstairs. We keep your footsteps.
Baby pigeons on the roof, pigeons and pigeons. I get

(32:11):
pig scratching. It's frustrated to eating the moss pages turning
in a book that no one is touching. That's creepy
cold spots. Even in temperature controlled rooms, the heating is gone.
Whispers in Latin or French when no one's a man

(32:34):
in old fashioned clothes staring from a locked archive room.
But the room was empty when we locked it. It
wasn't constant, but it happened enough that I stopped questioning it.
I've never talked about this publicly before, and honestly, I'm
a bit nervous even typing this out. We were always
told to be discreet, and working in any royal residence
comes with a sense of don't ask, don't tell. When

(32:56):
it comes to that kind of thing, it'll get you.
But after twenty plus years, I just wanted to share
it somewhere with people who might get it. I haven't
been back since I left. I don't want to go back,
but I'm happy to answer any questions and thank you
for reading. Now.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Well you see, so, yeah, we do have This is
a good form to talk about this kind of stuff,
But yourself and myself have not really had very many
full on ghost the experience.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
No, not like that. No, nothing you've I want to
we've had. The only thing I can like that was
like that, other than the shadow people waking up and
seeing weird stuff in your room. I've told that story
before in the podcast about the windowsill that just kept
or the window that kept going out, and that's the
only thing I saw where I was like, this doesn't

(33:47):
make sense, but maybe there was an explanation for us.
I still don't know what it could be, but it
was very bizarre. And that house was super spooky as well,
So there was that when I was.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
A child, Like, there was a lot of times where
I did feel fucking spooked out. And you're kind of wondering,
is that just being a child or are really more
sensitive to kind of weird fucking shit, because I remember, like,
just well I grew up, Well, I didn't grow up.
I spent maybe two or three years in I suppose actually,

(34:19):
when I think about it, like, so I grew up
for the first maybe two or three years of my life,
I spent it out in a little bit out of town,
in a kind of a country house, and I have
vague memories of that, like being.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
A toddler have vague, yeah, because it.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Was very different because it was out in the country's
a lot of green. And have memories of my first
cat and things like that. I have memories that have
been eaten by a fucking German shepherd. I didn't see it,
but I remember losing the car. And then we moved
into town. And where we moved was one of the
oldest buildings in town and I lived there for probably

(34:58):
three years as well, and that was.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
A former jail.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
It was spooky and I remember feeling as a kid
like going around that house. I remember, like I have
vivid memories of wake and up in the middle of
the night and going rambling like and fucking shitting me.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Kex, like just going around this is kind of weird, creepy.
They're like, it's it's funny to figure out. So to
give you an example, I was out doing the garden
like last weekend or whatever. And you know the way
my garden is very not dense exactly, but like when
you're in the bit with the trees, you know, it's
hard to see. Yeah, And I was listening to a
podcast like Area fifty two, and I was just talking

(35:33):
about like the Nordic aliens, so the blonde hairs aliens.
And as I was doing it, I just thought about, like,
because you were in kind of this wooded area, So
if you looked over and there was just like a
six foot seven lad with blonde hair in your garden,
I was like you. But like, if I saw you,
I'd be like, well, Rob, if I saw an alien,

(35:55):
it would be more unsettling. But I think sometimes you
like there's a thought in your head or you're listening
to something, and you kind of your body. I guess
on some level it's aware that you're either thinking of
something spooky or you're being entertained by something that's spooky nature.
So on some level your biology is trying to protect
you from that thing. So it's making you like have

(36:19):
an extra sense of perception to make sure you're looking
around you. But I do. There was a weird one
I remember as a kid. I remember maybe it was
my sister was going upstairs or I was going upstairs
or something, and I saw like this weird green face
at the top of the stairs. And I was young.
I was like, I don't know, young, like maybe five

(36:41):
or four or something like that, But I remember thinking
to myself. I was like, oh, that's just my imagination,
and I was trying. I was sort of starting to
understand or on some level that you know, you can
create an image and it doesn't it's not there, but
you can visualize, you know, seeing a monster or something
like that, even though you know it's not there. But
I did think about it really like recently, and I

(37:02):
was like, well, was that at that point of childhood
where you start to disengage from the metaphysical weird stuff
and so maybe there was some sort of green face thing,
but at that point in my development, I was going,
this is this is the imagination. So sometimes I wonder
like even with things like that, you're out doing the garden,

(37:22):
you're listening to something, and then you start to get
this weird feeling of being you know, you're you're being watched. Yeah,
and you kind of think to yourself, well, like maybe
I'm always being watched, Maybe we're all always being watched
by something, and it actually awakens a little power to
you that's you know, is on some level away or
that or there's the kind of more material view that

(37:43):
it's it's clearly just very simple, yeah, very simple explanation
or something. Yeah, you're watching like you're watching mom ra
a green Land and you're like, I'm imagining a face.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Like it's tough to it's tough to differentiate. I did
have like like as a kid. There was a lot
of times where it still sticks to me where I
definitely have mentioned him in passing on the pot before.
But like I remember, I used to hear. I used
to have like my heart beat.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
In the air. Yeah, I remember that, and I used
to fall asleep with that.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
But then that noise would be in the backdrop to
my nightmares, so you'd heard it like as you're walking
around in the nightmares and there's like fucking ghosts and
shipp the're like this really creepy, and yeah, up it
was bizarre.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
I think, Yeah, I didn't realize that that was my
heartbeat and I saw that there was like that was biting.
And I remember when night getting really upset and I
was saying to me, man like keep hearing, and she
was saying, because you know, back then you might have
like a thing that would make a bang noise to
stop birds eating corn and stuff. A lot more rural

(38:57):
stuff around us back then, right, it wasn't as developed
that the town wasn't as developed, and I remember me
massive was that, and I was just like, because I
must have I mustn't have been articulating very well, but
I was here, and it's like, no, it's my own
fucking heartbeat, Like but it was amazing. How yet, like
you know things like that that were so unsettling or

(39:19):
frustrating and it's just your body keeping you alive.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
They had, like my grand and grandad had out in
their house that had this and again I've definitely mentioned
that before, but I had like a light, an upright
lamp that was probably about as high as our light
set up over there, so you're talking about six foot tall.
I had one of those big lamp sheds. But like
in my nightmares, I used to walk into their sitting
room and like the light to be all low everywhere,

(39:44):
and then there be like something standing behind that and
you can't see its face, just the body behind.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
That's like something that's proper fucking like hearing your heartbeat
in the background, and you're like, it's so horrible.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
I would have been like seven or eight of these nightmares.
Yeah that sounds intense. Yeah, they were creepy.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
I still there's sometimes like if I'm really tired or
desperately hungover and you're just dead. Sometimes I'd be like
lying on the couch and you see, like if you
look at the curtains, say up there, I visualize like
this this sort of black demonic hand just coming out
of the corner like that and just coming out of

(40:28):
the corner and just putting its fingers around, and like
it's almost like I can almost see it really happen.
And I frustrate myself because I don't want to be
thinking about it as I'm like, shut up and just
like watch wrestling or whatever you're doing, but you can't.
And then what I notice, as well as your peripheral
is anything that looks like this light for example, if

(40:48):
you're like turned like that to talk to you, it
feels like there could be someone behind it to your point.
So and if I'm like, you know, especially it's hangovers,
I think or are SI deprived because you're a bit more.
Back when I used to smoke weed, I remember one
night smoking a joint or two and there was a

(41:09):
load of blankets on a on a on a chair
side my bed, and I was like reading a book
and I was convinced it was a person, and you
had to keep looking over out of the check even
though you know, like this is dumb, but it's like
that that part of your brain that's, I guess, trying
to keep you alive and make you aware. You know,

(41:29):
I'll tell you a good one. Actually, I had a
very peculiar dream a couple of nights ago where I
was like in this dark house, let's say, a big,
big enough house, and I was running through the doors
and every time I ran through a door, I had
to turn around and close the door behind me because
something was chasing But in the dream, what was chasing me?

(41:52):
Do you know in the Evil Dead where like the
evil thing comes like the camera, It was like that,
but I was chasing me.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
So it was me, your po chasing but I knew,
yeah exactly, it was like and then it was first
person and following.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Yeah, and the thing was the first person name and
was in a bad mood something about that brother. Yes,
I'm sure a few things he wants to but the
but it was like that that part of me was
angry that I would feel this. I was trying to
block the anger, but sure enough, when I woke up,
the next day, just one of those days we wake
up with a proper America for no reason like this,

(42:33):
And I think my subconscious was probably aware that my
brain chemistry for whatever reason was making me grouchy that morning,
so my body was probably visualizing what was happening internally
probably woke up which I just thought was really interesting, insane.
I've been quite good on a dreaming im for that
that many. But we did have it.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
We had we had a talk last week on the
podcast about how we were going to get chapt the
general our yeah episode. Now, the problem with that is
I've tried it well. I went on getting it right
because for some reason they're refer you to the site
to go and check out. They're like this is really
good for transcripts. You go to it and your request
of transcripts, and they just never send them to you.

(43:14):
And I've done this twice over the last six months
and forgotten each time that they don't do it.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Are we right that we can't be aied it's too ridiculous? Yeah,
well like yeah, so maybe that's a hard as well.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
The top one percent of the podcast, that's great, Please
don't have an arsonal pants it is you consider like
top one percent of anything, and you're fucking the king shunt.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
It does show you how saturated history is, because what
is it, three point six million podcasts?

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Yeah, there's probably less not I feel like the numbers
on that wrong, but yeah, there could be.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Yeah, and then they said we're in the top thirty
six thousand. That's right, which to be fair, in the
top thirty six thousand, But then again, there's not thirty
six thousand TV shows. No, but there would be well
of all time, it would be right. Now, do you
think there's thirty six I suppose in every channel in
all the world, globally and globally in this podcast will
be global. It is global podcast. Yeah, it's pretty cool.

(44:08):
It is a shame that, you know, weird the one
percent poor. Also, I was going to be ruder. It's
just the kind of one of life's cruel jocks. Here's
the thing that you're good at but you're not good
enough to actually get.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
I've been in the top one percent of playing spoons
or something, are the best, but no one cares.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
So that was cool.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
That was a fun little thing, But I am I'm
trying to get that sorted out Spotify now, those chapters
on the shawl of our chapters.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
But if you read that, true, I couldn't even remember
half of the Like it was one like the Matrix book.
I was like, what matrix book? I don't know we
were talking about. Yeah, it was a trans wow cry.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Crypt And also we one of our listeners got all
Matt sent us.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
It was.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
I was talking to him and he was like, I
think I'm autistic. He was like, I think I got
flag for autism. He was like, I did a test
and he sent me the test. I want send me that.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
There.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
I love another fucking diagnostic and I did it. I'm
not autistic, sadly no.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
But you're autastic.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
A couple of a couple of my friends are without
kind of the details. But the funny part about that
fucking site was and maybe it is a fucking test
of autism because they charged your fifty cent for doing it.
When you do it, really say you're like, oh yeah,
grand okay, it's going to like I think it says
something about like I agree, And then two days later

(45:56):
the constarted hardly aura.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
It's like a subscription.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
So I'm like, oh, yeah, so maybe I am atistic actually,
because now just be you're stupid saw all of Like
I got a lot of people to know because we're
having and.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
I had to tell everyone was like black that thing. Yeah,
like to be fair, it look, it's one of those
things that happens. I I know, like I've done some
of those IQ tests online, but I think having at
Q test might be like if you have a low
qu you will do an online i Q test exactly,
but it's the same thing. You do, go through all
the things your cures about your score and then it's like, oh,

(46:36):
subscribe to it and you know it's.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Just it was super accurate though, because like it did
like redline me in like the eddy HD symptoms, like yeah,
like super powered on like it might be.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Worth playing thirty euro and fifty cent, but it's.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
It's actually fifty cent, so you can just do it
for fifty thing, Like It's was interesting. It was all
these things are insightful or by no means a diagnostic titles,
but are insightful and.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
They don't really change anything. They just give you to
your point there.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
It's a bit of a bit of a bit of
self understand them potentially. So I got a lot of
people give out about sam Myers braids and things like that.
But like at the end of the day, for let's
say there's someone who has like no self insight at
all and they don't know anything. There's a lot more
people that's out there than yeah, and if they do
Myers brains and that's the thing that sparks a bit

(47:24):
of interest in how they think about things, and they go, oh,
maybe that like or even if they read their thing
and a kind of does show similarities to some of
their traits and they go, oh, actually that does sound
a bit like me, and then they go down a
path of discovery and there's no hard well.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Look the other part of it, like even down to
little things like people being aware that because they have
an emotion, yeah, the most rational thing isn't always to
act on the exactly. Yeah, And there's so many people
that don't have that, and we're all guilty of not
having it a mad point, but it is. It's crazy,
like there's people that they don't possess that those are actually.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
All the people that kind of a lot of them
fall into like addiction and stuff, because it is that
kind of it can actually yeah, it's impulse based and
like how do I feel at that moment.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
What do I do to change how I feel? Yeah,
Because like I got a thing the other day where
I got I wouldn't call it bad news. It was
someone basically saying something to me that meant I had
to kind of re navigate when we go to Brazil,
how we're going to manage that or whatever. And obviously,

(48:30):
you know you're somewhat disappointed, a little bit like pissed off,
but also in the midst of feeling all that, I
could understand where they were coming from. So you know,
I didn't have a reactionary response to it, but what
I would say, what I would think is a pretty
rational response, and then you just figured, Okay, so that's
that's what's the next steps? How do we do that?

(48:51):
But it is it is funny where you could see
how that would have gone the other way if I
just like, no, but fucking yeah, you know what I mean.
But it's it's it's just mad like out and then
how happened? Are you're not catching yourself when you should
be catching yourself. There's a lot of.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Split second decisions that I fent in my life that
have been the absolute wrong decision, And I'm lucky that
it didn't pan out in the worst way.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
But even when you think it's something like like in.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
So many instances, in so many ways, in so many
situations that are like innocuous, some situations that are very serious,
like I've absolutely responded the wrong way and like locally
for whatever reason, whether it's been our largelybius, someone you know,
someone like, or just me or look just fake fluke,

(49:37):
I've been okay, just slightly change the topic. Actually, big
Bad Bob, Bob Guski wrote in he sent them an
email and this is kind of off topic, but it
is stuff we touch on every other that he wrote,
and he sent the YouTube short, which obviously we can't do,
but he does explain. He says that YouTuber I sent
on there is an American ex con who typically publishes

(49:57):
videos about prison culture, and this one he highlights some
Irish protesters who were pissed about Islamic immigration. Whenever I
see things like this, I like to make contact with
someone who lives in the culture depicted so I can
get one varnished opinions. Very wise of you, Bob, I know,
any produced video is made with bias to alicited response.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
For me, very wisey a bob, there's a man who
can he can feel his emotion, Yeah, and then do
the rest.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Yeah, exactly, Please review and credit for truthfulness for me specifically,
how charged is the current environment against immigrants in Ireland?
Is armed resistance likely? Also, I miss you guys even
aiming when you were.

Speaker 6 (50:35):
At respectfully vos this should be fucking but yeah, so
I suppose a little bit on this before we get
into the immigration side.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
I watched some YouTubers who have fallen into the trap
of sort of this reaction. So there's a couple, there's
a couple just straight up goul gee bags slash more
on YouTubers that I'll talk about first, like Charlie Veach
for example. I don't know if anyone's familiar with him,
but like if you like, if you watch like well,

(51:12):
if you watch him or if you watch someone like
watching him on video, like the chap is a melt,
Like would anyone actually want to sit down and fucking
like he's the type of chap like that would be
annoying everyone on the town, like everyone to be just
like this fella's insane, Like he's not well and he's
not It's not like just his way of communicating with people,

(51:33):
his way of carrying on is just completely fucking idiotic,
and you're just like, man like, you're just a complete
fucking saw. The likes of him are just like just
pure gee bags.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
A lot of a lot of the people on YouTube
who are talking about immigration are coming from a place
where they are anti immigration. I would say the majority
of videos on YouTube have immigration. That's like, the immigration
thing is probably no different to Spain's anti tourism thing
at the moment where and it's probably, to be fair,

(52:08):
the tourism thing is probably more prevalent in terms of
pricing them out of the cities and them not being
able to get to get accommodation. I think like there's
truth to some of the sentiment about the immigration stuff
in terms of why certain people oppose it. But I
think what you also have is a very I wouldn't

(52:28):
even say reactionary, and I don't want to say right
wing either, because I think totally correct. Yeah, there's there's
an element of racism. Now. The other thing is Islamophobia. Yeah,
But the other part of it is there are elements
of Islamophobia which aren't compatible with with Irish culture and
I think it's fine, Like if you're come in here
and you're a Muslim, that's fine. I think that when

(52:50):
you have people who and again this would be the
minority of Muslims that arrive here that want to basically
have a Sharia law or whatever the fuck, that's not
compatible that more. That does that mean that you should
have no Muslims?

Speaker 2 (53:02):
No, of course, no, what do I think? I'll tell
you what I think first before I get to it
evento the weeds. Yeah, I'm anti just blanket like everyone
should be able to come into a country.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
All the borders. I'm on the open borders.

Speaker 7 (53:15):
I'm sure why I have a cot Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I I'm not huge on sort of knucklehead decisions that
governments make across the world where they do things like
and they've done it in Ireland quite a few times.
They've done it in our county where it's like here's
a village with like a thousand people, let's push three

(53:38):
hundred working.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Edge between eighteen and thirty Muslim.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Men like lads. Not even whether the Muslim or not
is not actually important, but let's put let's put a
lot of men who come from a culture that's a
bit yikes in terms of some things like that, and
they're not vetted. Yeah, so it's like, let's just put
them in a town where there's nothing to do for
them or for the people who already lived there. And
not to mention, a lot of these small villages, like

(54:06):
the very like loose thing that's holding them all together
is that they all know each other and there's a
bit of a community like it's a very it's and
it's it's fragile. I would say, like a lot of
them say all the communities so strong, but it is
fragile because there's a lot of people in those communities
that are falling to drug addiction, that are falling out
of things, they're not doing well themselves. And that's our
own native people. So then why would you put three

(54:30):
hundred people that have no ties, are nothing to do
a lot of them don't have qualifications, and you just go, yeah,
that's sure, we'll see what happens. But the problem is
then when you look at it, a lot of the
places that are doing and now there's a for profit system.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
Because you're protech must be yeah, yeah, no, And I
would imagine, but I would say that Ireland is probably
capitalizing off this because a lot of these people they're
not I would imagine they're not all asylums. I'd say
there's a lot of economic migration. Of course it's not
all asylum, right, So all these people are coming in

(55:08):
and again, there's nothing wrong with trying. If I was
trying to have a better life for myself, you would
see why you would go to a different country. So
I think there's a couple of things. One thing is
like there's some sort of a moral peace to bring
in people from war torn countries or who are being persecuted. Yeah,
there's something. There's something there that that I think there's

(55:30):
an element of a maral obligation. There's also a fucking
housing crisis.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Yeah, well there's also you know, yeah, there's things that
trump each other. Daughter's like there's like a moral obligation,
but then there's there's also things, like you said, there's
there's native.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Built problems that we haven't solved.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
So then you're like, well, it's obviously going to create
discontent with people if there's rules for the but not
for maybe or vice farsa where it's like you're you're
a expecting us like you and I have a harder time.
Yet in the house it wasn't easy and you you know,
like like were sort of what you would say is
like typical and we're older, like we're older. Then like

(56:12):
we're like we're not even young.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
Again, we don't like it was to the toff. But
the other part is like we don't have the houses.
We could default something. But especially with AI coming in,
everyone for sure, but you never know, do you know
what I mean? I think what's what's interesting as well
is when people are being marginalized in someone and look,

(56:36):
it's it's horrible. And being married to someone who's an
immigrant as well, it's horrible to see how she feels
or how say most of the people I know, say
are Brazilian, how they feel because there are some sentiments
just like hit a brown lad, Yeah, sick box off.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
Well, if I was on that balls, I would have
got and slapped that.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
You know. Problem is a lot of the people that
you want to fucking get out of this country. You can't.
But there's a shipload of them that you'd love to
put on a boat and tell the fuck off because
they're never going to do anything good for this country. Sorry,
that's maybe a strong statement, but they haven't to this point,
and they don't seem to be on a trajectory.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Was right, So watch like I have Billy Moore shout
out there, but he's fallen into the trap as well,
where he's gone around now getting stuck in with all
these right wing gun beans when he doesn't have to content,
never centered around. But now he's kind of I suppose
he gets clicked for it. But like the less teeth
you have, the more and the immigration are for some
reason or another, like he does be talking abouts on
the street and have no tating their head on.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
They're like, oh, these immigrants are not.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
And it's like the reason, so what can you draw
from that? Then you're like, Okay, these ads have nothing themselves,
and so someone is coming in and they look at
it as they're doing better than me. Now that's a
very deep thing because with a lot of these people
are like, well a lot of your problems areself made. Yeah,
so don't get mad at but there are legitimate yeah, And.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
There's there's gonna be people we are a welfare state.
There's gonna be people that are coming in there going
I don't fucking want to do anything. I'm going to
live off the state. And by all intents and purposes,
that poor girl who was killed on the canal years ago,
the fellow who did that, well, he got up at noon,
did fucking nothing to contribute to anything. Like Again, there's

(58:26):
definitely parts about people coming to the country to escape
being persecuted. I totally get that. I wouldn't like to
be the man turning a family back on a boat
who are trying to escape at warrent Horn country. The
other part is who's been in control in this country
for decades. It's been Pheno Fall and Finegale. It's a
government problem. This is a it's a government problem.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
They're not fixing policy like we do have to in
in twenty twenty five and going forward, like climate refugee
is gonna be a huge thing, like that's there's nowhere
around that, and you're going to after every country. It's
not just Ireland, it's not America, it's not English, everywhere,
Like they're going to have to come up with a

(59:07):
sort of a more refined immigration policy because again, urben borders,
I just don't I don't think it will be feasible.
And and the reason it's not feasible in Ireland, for example,
right now. And this is why it's not just the
thing of like I'm not coming, there's no infrastructure here
for that, like we don't.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
Have the what we're going to have is because of
because of the way we naturalize these people, they're going
to basically form little ghettaways communities where the worst parts
of that because they're like, if you're a Muslim that
who's moved here, you're just trying to get a better
like whatever your situation is, and you're you're not you're
a moderist, say you're religious, you're moderate. You're not going

(59:45):
to be out there like.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Most Muslim The majority people aren't.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
That's gonna happen. Irish citizens are giving you ship the
whole time. And there's very vocal minorities that will slowly
take over radicalize people. Anything radicalizes the problem. It's just
that of all the religions right now, Islam is the
youngly one that seems to have an extremely fucking i'll
breaking up attitude. And like you said, it's a very

(01:00:13):
small minority, but there are entire countries where this is
the overriding sentiment, and that is what are you like
it or not like that's a problem.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Well, I suppose that's probably an unfair stement because I
think the representatives of that country at the time, the government,
if you will, are like that, but the government in
those countries is like fucking It's like, yeah, you're not, like,
so that's best. Like that would be like saying, like
the majority of Korea, well maybe, but the majority of

(01:00:46):
North Koreans are like mad for blowing up everyone when
you kill.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Yeah, yeah, And I'm totally yeah. I'm definitely not saying
that anyone who comes from there is like that. No,
no more than anyone who comes from Russia wance brained.
I don't that at all, But I do mean there
will be pockets within that, and they will. If you
bring over forty thousands, you're going to five thousand. Yeah,
and that is a problem. That's five thousand. I don't

(01:01:12):
know how you vet that. I don't really know what
you do about that, but I think people need to
be able to have the conversation where you say you
have nothing against anyone who choose to be whatever religion.
I have a problem with people abusing other people, or
being misogynistic, homophobic, any of the things that we have
as a standard baseline in our culture. Now, if you
naturalize these people and they go, actually, this is fucking

(01:01:34):
way better than the ship we were doing back there,
then maybe they take on those values that small minority,
and you actually bring them with you and you don't
have these problems. Because to your point, we have plenty
of problems with our own indigenous people. And I don't
mean the travelers when I say that, I mean like
Irish people.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Always have it on like yeah, it's just there was
no one point in video cameras out of con this
is a problem and millions, but.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
It's always because all these people. And again it goes
down to the end thing. If our infrastructure was set
up correctly, then this wouldn't be as much of an issue.
Everyone gets housing, everyone's able to have a good job
for themselves and get a good opportunity. But our governments
ship the bed on that for decades for poor policies

(01:02:19):
and because they've privatized everything and a private market doesn't
really give a fuck about social intentions. So now we're
in a situation where you're getting people basically rather than
we're turning against each other, no different to the Spanish
turning on the tourists because there's an injustice.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
Basically, I read this fucking wild conspiracy that it's quite
interesting actually that the reason that the governments are moving
these like fucking conclaves of like basically like to these
rural towns is to outrage conservative voters so that they'll
always vote against the leftist governments. Because I'm going to

(01:03:01):
actually think.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
About it, but yeah, who who is? Because because.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Together send the right hair that they would there would
be that would outrage our leftist governments, like it would
outrage the waters.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
The waters will always stay to be right. Yeah, so
it's interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
It's an interesting I'll tell you one thing I will say,
Like I watched the video recently again, it was a
Billy More video, and it was bobbing about between a
far left and a far right, fucking protest.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
Right both fucking man. Oh yeah, that's the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
But you don't want to talk to any of these people,
like like I was watching, Like my tag away from
this was like I would hate to sit with anyone
that is that much of a fucking melt all today
shop and fucking things and assault, torne deaf and so
fucking annoying. And I'm just I'm looking at it all.
I'm like, that's like, what the fuck do you think
you're what are you want to achieve by doing this?

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
It's all pasture. The problem the conversation we're having now,
if there was someone else here who identified with either
of those groups, they would be calling us names because
we're trying to I think we're trying to have a
fairly reasonable conversation, and we're saying, yeah, there is problems
with elements of Islam. Does that mean they're right that no,
there is problems with the housing. Should we be bringing

(01:04:17):
so many people? Can we do the services? We're also
recognizing that you do have some sort of a moral
obligation to help people that are being persecuted. We don't
have the answers, but you can at least have an
open conversation. Whereas someone from the light would say we're
dyed in.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
The world liberals someone from the left and say we're racist.
NAIs so like, what do you do? They're like, the
thing is, you know, inconvenient truth. I suppose with all
of this stuff is like that of most of the
sort of western countries were built by immigrants, you know, yeah, America, Ireland,
like Ireland went well. Ireland wasn't built by immigrants Irons,

(01:04:55):
but by Irish. But we went and built a lot
of places. We built a lot and do okay, we
built a lot in a America, Australia, a lot of
Irish immigration. You go to you know, Australia, a lot
of Irish working in construction or working in healthcare systems. Likewise,
a lot of Irish built London. You go to Liverpool,
you can't fucking avoid Irish.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
I think that's part of it, as well as that
back in those days of emigration you didn't come into
a check. I'm not saying that that was necessarily a
good thing, but there's a welfare site as well, which
I think is frustrating people. Like what I think, if
you're going to bring these people into the country, I'm
sure the majority of them, the vast, vast majority of
them would want to work and have a better since

(01:05:38):
we have such a build and boom now in order
to make houses quick, or can't we get them doing
some sort of general laboring or like as part of
your citizenship. They'll be on the sites with the lads.
They'll start to adopt elements of our culture, like friends
of ours who work in the business trade would work
with a load of Chinese lads and stuff like that.
They have a Colombian guys as well, and they all

(01:05:59):
have like they're all integrated together because they're working together
all day and it's stuff like that. They're laughing. So
the boys would be jeering, not jeering like Irish band
or jeering. It is jeering and jeering the ladge from
Columbia about any bag, any bag, and then the Columbia
are saying, how would you like if I say, do
you any guinness? But they're having the crack. They're enjoying
each other's jokes with each other. I'm sure there's the

(01:06:20):
odd bits and pieces here and there, but they're integrating.
Like that's what we need. You need people to integrate.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Well, the pole like the poll's like probably join the
recession over here, like we're probably the backbone of this country.
And they were all immigrants and but they all just
the color was the crack color.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
Well, it's an identifier, isn't it. And that's the thing
that you can easily ident like.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
I was talking like so for example, we have you know,
the Irish Music Festival and been heard a fla, that's
very Irish thing.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
It's it's Irish traditional music.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
But I was out in the nursing homey grant as
I like, and one of the nurses there that was
trading was Indian. Like an asked, I said, are you
didn't like for the fan she was saying, yeah, I'm
going and now on hards. I'm really excited to check
it out and go around and see the cracks. And
it's like that's most of the people that so like,
that's like they're all interested in that. What people are

(01:07:10):
charity picking is and all the outrage merchants are doing
the same are there. They're picking those really agregious and
obvious things. And to be fair, those things, right, are
not you or I issue. There a government issue. So
like going outside saying immigration center and process none of that, Yeah,
none of that representatives. But that's yeah, it's not like

(01:07:32):
it's like you're not doing nothing by doing that. You
need to go to your government and you need to
fix it. I do personally believe that, you know, in
our lifetimes, like immigration is going to have to be
really looked at, like and I do think that if
you want to go to society, you probably are going
to have to eventually start saying to people like, well,
we want skilled people in here, we want people that

(01:07:53):
can contribute to society. We need like that's and that's
and that's fair. And I don't think there's anything wrong
with saying.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
It's even like about even skilled people, like we need
skilled people, we need a certain amount of unskilled Yeah,
as well. So many people come here and leave really
good jobs, start at the bottom of the barrel with
minimum wage and build themselves back up. Like that's certainly
been my wife's situation, you know, and I know lots
of friends of hers, again because I would have been

(01:08:19):
around them. Lots of Polish people would have been the
same when they came here in the kind of previous waves.
And I think it's and we needed all no one.
I don't think like, yeah, Ireland might have been exposed
for elements of the racism in that, like they're different
than than me, so like I don't like them. There's
an element to that for the vast majority. We never

(01:08:41):
really had a problem with immigration when it was the
Eastern euroam immigrant immigrants. Sure.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
I remember the first time I worked with a Polish
that the first time I ever met one. I was
literally probably about fifteen, and that was like when the
first wave of balls started to come in and I
thought it was press. I was trying to teach them
English and everything I remember, and I was like, this
is brilliant. And I worked with two Romanians and a
Plish lab and the two Romanians was the same thing.
You'd be asking the questions about, oh I was going
on the culture, and they were the same. They were

(01:09:08):
all about the crack. But like it's just one of
those things. Now it's getting ugly, and like the problem is,
I do think there's a lot of agitators online that
are just creating a fucking bullshit. But like a lot
of these lads are just going around trying to antagonize people,
like honestly, and I'm not being funny when I said,
I do think a lot of these people that are
going to protest, and I think you have to write
the protest.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
And I think a lot of people should.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
I think you should protest, But I think a lot
of them are just mentally on well and as well, likewise,
a lot of people getting rashly abused up in Dublin
are getting rashly abused by little scumbag fuckers who it's
nothing to do with politics. No, No, it's literally just simple.
I want to be a fucking content. If there was
no one of skin with a different skin color, they'd
be at you, or they'd be traying stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
They decided that, Yeah, it's just easy to be. It's
just a target that they're just hanging around.

Speaker 6 (01:09:53):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
It's like being a young ladyer. You're hanging around with
a group of lads and you're bored and you're gone,
you want today. Here's a around that walking down the street, Like,
let's talk with him. It's that simple, Like it's just
braind edge stupidity. It's like, here's a lot of different
skin color coming down the road. Let's fuck with him now.
And the same is true for other places. Now if
I went off with the fucking bagdad or something and

(01:10:14):
there's a group of things lads and the same my
big white ass six fucking five walking down the world
will go let's walk with him, or let's see what
the crack is with him. And it's the same as
if I went to Campton and I was walking down
the road and the boys will be like, let's check him,
like let's see what the crack is, and that's and
that that part of that is human nature. So like
that's the other side of it is like part of
it is just human nature. But education is obviously learning

(01:10:36):
about another Another thing is a lot of these people
have never actually integrated with other cultures. Another thing is
actually talking to other cultures, learning from other cultures, seeing
what they have to offer you when you have to
offer them. That's one of the coolest things. I grew
up around a lot of different cultures, even just your
paying like I've talked about Jane before she listens to

(01:10:56):
the podcast with Harman was Greek, so I had a
lot of that kind of just even being around them
as kids.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
It was a different.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
Type of style of a way of being grew up
with like crusties from London just and even as an
Irish person, that was totally different. They were from like
they lived in Brixton or somewhere, so they were bringing over.
They would have had elements that they picked up from
the black community over there. I grew up around black
Jamaican people from like and I went over to a
chain for a couple of times. It's just funny because

(01:11:23):
I think only was the nurses had an episode that
like the boys had like a chin for like torrible
sort of go around, but probably, but it was Yeah,
I've been around all of that, and I never once
thought about like skin color.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
It was just like, yeah, you know, I think when
you're as well, like we were in a you know,
weird some kids coming to our school that would have
been Muslim would have been back skined and stuff. And
my sister would have been the same class one of
the girls and they were friends and I would have
been over in the house. And when you're a kid,
I don't think you even recognize. In fact, I remember

(01:11:57):
being a kid and I thought like being black was
just cool as fun. And again, the only things that
we yeah, it still definitely is. I don't say anymore,
but yeah, I think you're right, like similar sort of stuff.
My dad lived in Nigeria for years, so he had
a lot of exposure. But he would he would be
the first one to tell you that the Muslim lads
are the best ever, like he you know, but I

(01:12:19):
think as well, there's also a thing that's happening with
society in the last few years. I'm seeing it where
I work, seeing it a lot now there's a much
harder edge to society. I can't fully it's weird because
why ye a great time.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
Yeah, we're not like you can because we've lived through
like a fairly big recession and like times now saying
more than the then, and I think it is the end.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
Everyone has much Yeah, I think I think AI is
gonna because you've seen we've all seen people that just
got red pilled or even like when you're having conversations like.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
The chronically online people, yeah, and people like if you
watch most of them GM being tucking shots that will
be going out on the left and right protests and
bag most of them are just chronically online gob shots
who are just trying to posture and be fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
This is what I think.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
So you have to know and like when you actually
watched the videos, it last the goal to do things
and they're in the mix and just all the fucking
you're just like mens is people that you wouldn't be
a listen to the sitting room for fifteen minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
It's like there's it starts as what the fun, but
it's weird where it goes as well as this gain
is more momentum. Are you notice in that. Originally it
was like, there's a housing issue, that's a true thing.
There's a services issue with with hospitals and ambulances. Again,
that's fair things, that's always been true. But that's true
as well. Yeah, because again because the government have let

(01:13:42):
these standards go to ship now arguably are too many
people going to hospital and they should just fucking still,
maybe there's something there. I'm sure that's a very small
factor now. I think where you start going with this
is people would originally say that, then they'll say like, well,
you know that the radical Islam and Islam culture in
general isn't compatible fair enough that their their arguments, But

(01:14:06):
then you start getting to people just going like Ireland
is losing its Irish and that's rest try adjacent to racism.
And I think that's where you saw, yes, but do
you see how people weren't saying that's a year ago
because you weren't able to say that, because as the
momentum of the other sort of more serious issues builds

(01:14:29):
like that, that's where you wind up. And the problem
is that when you get there now people like I
was listening to podcast the other day and someone on
it was saying, like, when I go to France, I
want the snobbery French waiter. I don't want like a
fellow from like wherever. And it was just like Jesus Christ,
have you was listened to this is what is like.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
We're just culture is changing. But if you went to
Venice in like fucking fifteen hundred, that was like more
multicultural than fucking anywhere. Yeah, yeah, same as if you
went to any of those big hops. You went to
Dublin the time in Vikings there was.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
Every sort of more Irish than the Irish themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
So but as well, like there is within our country
radical Christians. Yes, there's radical other religions that exists freely,
but because you're white skins, no one cares.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
I think it's like, yeah, I think there's an element
of that fitting in or what is it passing like
it was years ago? Was it just after civil rights
in America where you could pass for white even though
you might be black or whatever? And it's it was
I wouldn't say a shameful thing, but something that probably
felt quite shameful about doing. But to be fair, probably

(01:15:37):
major life easier at the time. I think, yeah, it's a.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
Like I think that if you if you're coming into
a country yourself for meself or anyone else, and you're
going into another country because you want a better life.
You should have something to contribute, whether it be whether
it be your brains you're brown, whether it be something
like you have to demonstrate that ability. But you also
have to have smart policies and the governments. But the

(01:16:05):
government just the policy is not there, like but they're
just it's just so. But it can be typically left
lan and you can be right leaning and you can
still have sensible immigration policy, like there's there's nothing wrong
with trying to uphold the standard for your country which
you value. You have to acknowledge that it's like a
fucking pond, Like the more water that you pour in,

(01:16:26):
the more it gets diluted, and it's just not going
to be the same thing anymore. So you need to
be smart about saying that we have called let's.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
Keep it going.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
But it's all I get you. No, that's why marchants
are able to prevail because.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
And there is Look, there is mandates from the EU
which I'm sure pressurize the governments and make it very difficult,
Like I'm sure our government can't just go We're not
doing this anymore. I'm sure, like I'm sure we can,
but I doubt it's in the best interests as well.
You can make the argument that's the the UK. Even
though the UK have done Brexit and they don't have
to do any of the ship, they're doing the same thing.

(01:17:01):
So it does seem like that. I don't fully understand
why we're not doing this sort of immigration policy again
because like like we do have a Maril obligation. But
I do think a lot of this is just it's
it's it's economic migration. I mean, do we need Are
they going to be working in the coffee shops or
they're just going to live in a hotel getting welfare,

(01:17:21):
which again isn't their problem, but they need opportunities so
they can.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
But you could argue that up until recently or even
still to this day, that Irish young Irish people don't
have opportunity provided by the government. That's true disadvantages Irish kids,
and I was one of them. I didn't really have
any opportunity once I got it. Now there was Pats
I could follow together it, but I wasn't educated enough

(01:17:47):
to get there. So like that that could happen and
I could have in another life ended up on drugs
on the street easily had I not have been like
if the wind took me another way. And so that
that is a problem too. There is there's problems all
over the shop and you can find them wherever you look.
But I think long story short is like I'm all

(01:18:09):
for sensible immigration. Yeah, I'm all for cultural integration. I'm
all for people integrate, and I don't, to be honest, naturally,
I don't like when say a whole bunch come in
and there's no sort of effort at all to integrate.

Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
I don't like when say, you know, someone's been living
in say Ireland for ten years and they can't speak
to you, they don't have the language, and it's like
make a bit.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
Of effort, like sake. I do think there's an element
of the government not put in support. Like if you're
you know there's going to be three hundred lads here, yeah,
why wouldn't you have some sort of like an interpreter.
Like I've heard all of these things where like but
like you know it's happened, you know, they're common. They
don't do anything. I've heard that when people get here

(01:18:54):
there's literally no support, like there's anything. That's how how
can you have the or size to have a hotel
set up to probably get paid by they are. But
the point is, why, why would you, like you know
that's happening, why would you not put some systems in
place to facilitate it and to to get the locals

(01:19:14):
on side? Like it just fucking makes no sense to me.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
Sure, Like I don't know it now, but one of
the videos I watched there was like the fire Eye
while they said they weren't fair, right whatever, and the
far left were protesting against each other, right apparently, Like
so the building was like like three hundred I think
male refugees in this building, right, and there were like

(01:19:40):
literally one hundred meters down the roll from an Alligards
school like secondary school, And you're like why, like what
planet like who decides?

Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
And see the problem with that is, as we're saying,
because if you have a group of three hundred men
who were all from an area where white girls perspected
and it doesn't seem to be a big issue in
certain areas, of those three hundred, you are likely to
have a certain percentage, so you need to.

Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
Protect like but even just on the optics, even if
it's even if it's three hundreds, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
What are you doing? Lads?

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
So I think I think it's all about sensibility. I
think most of the stuff to answer to answer Bob's
actual question.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
Isn't that bad?

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
I know it's outrage online merchants. You see, what's happening
is the algorithm is picking up the outrage merchants because
they know all that people watch it, then all that
people talk about it, and to be quite simple, it's
what makes YouTube money. And so YouTube will push what
makes them money.

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
Because you have the likes of Connor McGregor, Dave Rubin,
a lot of those, a lot of these grifty fucking
like Shapiro, those boys like.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
But even on that, like, I don't I feel bad
because I want to equally call out I wanted on
the par left. I want to call out all these
girls and gear bags who are like, everything has to
be inclusive with everyone, and you have to just like
we have to we have to champion everything. And yeah,
moers that are like.

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
They don't seem just they don't seem to have as
much like celebrity. But if you like, yeah, but what
like because you're it was the same, like the elements
of that. And again I'm talking on the hired line.
Trans My personal opinion is if you're going to cut
your dick off, use whatever you want to, you know
what I mean, Like like I don't even have skin

(01:21:40):
in the game with that one. No, I don't think
it's literally never affected me in my life. But what
I think happens is the polar the pole. The polarities emerge.
So you have the people that are saying, like, if
you have any questions about this year, but then the
other side they are being like just just hateful.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
All these it's all the same people that show but
these rallies by the way, so if you watch like
Charlie Beach or you watch any of these cons like,
it's all the same people that are going to all
these and it's all the same people.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
But do you think that there's any because I feel
that we're being pretty reasonable and trying to say, yeah,
these are issues, these are the other things. This is
a different way looking.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
At that's how you that's how you solve to open communication,
actual conversations.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
But it's just it's just that the algorithm's no.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
Money conversations like there's more to the money is made
out of outrage and emotion and and being quote unquote
like braved just like this like kind of you speak
the truth or whatever, and and and like it's not
the truth. It's just it's all neok to be honest

(01:22:54):
where I stand on the whole thing. If I'm speaking
on Ireland right now, there's been a couple of things
since there's really really notable ones of like the actually
Marcia guard get murdered, that the parson that murdered should
not have been in Ireland and it was an insane
like thing to happen, And that's totally.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
On those kids as well, But that's totally on a government.

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
That's not on any person of color.

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
Now, the other side is if you think of the
massive amounts of immigration and how long these people had
lived here, statistically and sort of probability, you would make
an assumption that they wouldn't be a threat because they
hadn't done anything. No, statistically, if.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
You're a white woman in Ireland, your biggest worry is
a white man.

Speaker 1 (01:23:39):
Yeah, your husband's yes, and in fact, in fact, so
that's why one of the dumbest decisions you can make
as a woman is to get married because again statistically,
now obviously now you can say that, right, you can
say statistically. And when you just say like that, it
seems like, you know, all husbands are evil. But actually
when you look into it, you pay it back. That's
a very small subset. But for our people out there

(01:24:01):
online who are saying all this is it and you
should you should like all these new articles about like
women are tired of looking after men, which not not
but nobody looking. But that's the same. That's the same.
It's the same. That's the fire left.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
Version, right, stalking like reactionary bullshit to clicks.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
Like and it works and it does talking about yeah,
but we're not going to get the clicks we're new ones.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
Well, we talked about lost civilizations, like that's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
If everyone talked about monsters and last civilizations, the world
would actually be a way better place.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
But no, like, so, be quite honest with a Bob,
Ireland is still extremely white.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
I would say I would probably continue to be for
many decades.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
Yeah, I would say that we have a bigger scumbag
problem from our own indigenous population.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
The problem is you can't get rid of them. You
can put them on a boat. Yeah, yeah, and take
a few nice or whoever, taking whoever.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
As long as you're going to contract Dublin City Center.
I'll give you an example. We were done the live
show up in Dublin and the next day me and
the lads were getting the Lewis and there was a
gang of young lads with all these on thrown bricks
at the Lewis, which is our tram service literally and
the Middle Straight and Broad daylight trom bricks at the
public train service. Now how bad does that look optically

(01:25:28):
that your own native population is fucking thron rocks. An
American fella came over to this country. He was out
in the streets standing in Dublin. Yeah, I got jumped
by a lot of Native Irish people and best to
almost to death. It was in a coma for like ages,
brain bleed, all that stuff. Like the list goes on.

(01:25:49):
There's bikes, motorbikes. I'm in a couple of motorbike groups
still on Reddit from when I had a bike. There's lads, Robin,
your bikes are getting robbed daily by our own people.
So we have our own problem.

Speaker 1 (01:26:01):
But do you think that part of that is like
because we don't have enough prisons.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
We're not, we don't.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
Yeah, but like you know, if you rob someone's motorbike up,
but there's but there's lads who wind up doing something
really fucking awful and they have fifty convictions, like we
all talked about fucking Yeah, I think I think there's
big problems in this country with their own like you
can't and this is what the way that the way
this fucking talking heads are going, Like do you know

(01:26:34):
that Irish people were Irish or magistical green like like, yeah,
we have our own internal problems. We always have. There's
a lot of fucking scumbags. You go up to Dublin.
The majority of the problems aren't happening from immigrants, the
vast majority and in fact most of the people that
are keeping this economy going in terms of service medical medical,

(01:26:58):
medical as well cares, like in terms of professional cares.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
There fu how many Irish wipe and out lads rising
to just take us cap and the Rose.

Speaker 1 (01:27:05):
But how many how many Irish people just want to
blame everything else, do fuck off and whinge it. That's
where that's where it's coming from. But again, shooting your
government having a situation where it's worth your while to
and work.

Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
Yeah, well like this is it. So it's a it's
a big issue. There is no Clayarer fixes. But what
I will say is we have the same issues that
most of the West have. There not unique, and it
is just be wary of any of is fucking stupid,
like McGregor is talking to the hole. McGregor has more Gregors. Listen,
Gregor has more convictions than any man's.

Speaker 1 (01:27:37):
Trying to run for the presurement and he's out there
sending Azilia Banks pictures of his hired mickey holding up
a weight fuck off. That man needs to calm himself on,
sit down and have a thing for him. So there's
just it's just silly, it is.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
Yeah, but yeah, lo we leave it there because we'll
go around and circles I never heard and

Speaker 1 (01:27:58):
Monster fuss men he fallows over now I

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