Mini Fuzz: Gladiator Bigfoot

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
A crypt and this is a script.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I want to quick against my enemies. Yeah you see,
you wanted to say, and then a little raision, but
appleget you from the wielder.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Hello everyone, what is up? I am rob mini foos
once again. It's a good time swinging boxes at you
many Jesus.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
And if they don't hit you, you'll die from the
gust of wind behind. They were anemonia from it.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
That's what works. It works. How's everyone? Don't hope you're
having a good day no matter where you are, even
if you're somewhere awful. I hope that is at least decent.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Where is it most awful to be at the minute?

Speaker 1 (00:53):
I say, being like a drone pilot in your grain,
that's very crapp So if you're piloting any drawings over there,
best look.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Being the target of the drums pilet might be pretty bad.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
DUDEA just that's fairly bleak.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
I keep thinking about that, like just that, Like you know,
today was a very sunny day walking around the garden
looking up at the sky going ho hum hum, And
he's like, imagine this is a big war zone.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
That'll be some shit. And as well, like what mex
of hourses in the summer over there, so it's terrible,
Like it's like this kind of like alternate reality where
like summer is bad and winter is good because in
the summer there's more foliage on the trees and the hedgerows,
saw more places for enemy troops to hide, harder for
the drums to s by enemy troops and stuff. So

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they're trying to like so like a lot of the
time there's just bombing trees and stuff like solo. So, yeah,
don't sound too good, No, it sounds fairly grim. And yeah,
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Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, algorithmus into oblivion.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
He sees he sees the AI generated transcripts of what
we discussed, and he's like, I don't like that. I
don't I will never be able to He doesn't even listen.
To make it worse, he's like, what the AI said
must be true, and then he algorithms as to death.

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on over to coffee. The link is in description. That
would mean a lot, you know, we're top one percent
podcast in Rare Lemon, but you know, we may as
well be in Calcutta. Yeah. To be honest with.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
It's like that whole we are the ninety nine percent
put on a global level, and you were actually the
one percent along with you.

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Speaker 1 (03:56):
I do worry a little bit about the future of
cryptid sitans and ufall stuff because AI video is so
good now, and I'm starting to really really sort of
worry that in the next maybe a year or two,
it hasn't caught on among the general public that like
AI videos can be so good. We haven't had that

(04:18):
like moment where you know, I don't know whether like
like a perfect big Foot, a perfect example of the
video like an artist.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, but do you think that AI it's kind of
like CGI, like no matter how good cgo is going
to can always kind of pick it out for them.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
No, I think that'll be better because I think I
think a lot of time now I think.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
And it's sort of referential and keeps learning.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
I'm just gonna pull figures out my arms. But some
of the video clips I've seen, if you show them
to nine out of ten people and just went to
what is this video?

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Do you see the tribe jumping on a trampoline? Just
an AI even looks so real. There's no one where
a cat puts a rat in someone's mouth while they sleeps.
But again, it just looks also.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
The time super real. Most of the time, it's indiscernible
unless or undiscernable, right, unless you have a knowledge that
it could be AI. Right, That's what I'm saying is
like we haven't had that like watershed moment or whatever
you want to call that of like, and I think
it'll be an artist that does it. You know what
I mean by that is like it will be either

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like a visual artist or a musician and they'll make
a music video or they'll make a piece of art
or something that's entirely with AI, and no one will
realize that. And then after the fact that I've said
this whole thing was AI, Oh have you there is
a or something like that, but it hasn't picked. But
that hasn't gotten like it'll have to be like a
Taylor Swift to do it to where then everyone goes

(05:42):
someone who's okay already. Yeah, so then everyone will go okay.
AI can be anything. You know. We're not at that
point just yet, but we will be very sad.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
There There is a band called the Velvet Sundown. Oh yeah,
they're all AI, and they're all AI as far as
I'm aware, there was a whole. But like it seems
to be. The fear I suppose is that these big
corporations just start to make their own AI music, push it,
people start to enjoy it. It's almost like like the
corporatization of podcasts where the indie falls out of it.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
That's gonna happen. That's gonna happen with a I don't
like some We'll have a podcast on people will just happily,
don't That'll be that.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah, it'll be like that with everything and just making
your own movies. You might get some Really, when you
think about it, some people have had I would imagine
amazing ideas for like, you know, a big, big franchise
movie like Batman or something, something that would make an
excellent Batman movie but would never get Green List, and
maybe with the advent of AI, they'd be able to

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make something that looks great, you know over time. The
only problem is there's going to be so much slush
that actually find and.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
It's kind of like Steam. There's so much indie stuff
on Steam that now it's it's it's managed quite well.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
So you can form the chat.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
But like I know, on I think it was, wasn't
it Xbox Live when they first sit there, Like you
had to be kind of of a certain caliber to
get into it, whereas with with Steam and you're going
against the like cream rise to the top. You know,
there's there's an ecosism there. But with AI, it just
seems like it'll turn into like that dead Internet that

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we've done an episode on before.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah, it's you know, not to be that horse about
AI or anything, but like it's equal part scary as
it is equal parts exciting. There, like there could be
things that are Marge from II that we just can't
really see yet, and once it happens, we go, oh,
that's really obvious. That like that. I do think like

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I kind of feel like the assistant angle of it
and how it's used as an assistant to do a
wealth of everything. I think that will become more ubiquitous
with everything in the future, and I think we will
look back at the time where we went like imagine
when we imagine, remember, do you remember a time where
we didn't have someone to do?

Speaker 2 (07:58):
There was a really interesting podcast to listen to recently.
It was actually a diary of a CEO that we
make fun of, but it was a guy who he
was I think it was ex head of Google or
some really really high up in Google, but.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
A really interesting take on it.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Because so much of the AI stuff is doom and
gloom and we're all fucked.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
He said.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
His take was like you said, for fifteen years, it's
going to be a bit of chaos. But he said
when this kind of Peter's out and settles down, he
would see it as basically, most people aren't going to
have to work, and we're going to have to put
some sort of structures in place to support those people.
And so he viewed it in quite a positive way.
After the initial sort of upheaval no different to you know,

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carres coming instead of horses. There was a very tumultuous
phase there, but he said they started saying so when
he kind of made the argument that actually, this should
help all people to have you know, they'll have money,
blah blah, they'll be well redistribution to a certain extent,
you're still gonna have billionaires and all the rest of it.
But he painted quite a positive picture of it. And
so then it turned into well, what will be people's

(09:02):
meaning if they don't have work? And again he made
an extremely good observation where he was just saying, look,
we've only had work for a couple of thousand years.
He's like less because before it was slavery really wasn't work,
was it. So he was saying, what you're gonna do
is you know.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Like what the old the tribal people did.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
They they talked about philosophy, they looked stars, they found
things that interested them. Maybe we'll become like you know,
we'll goon till we die. But you'll do something that
I suppose is either you could you could call a
waste of time, or you will just apply your time
in different ways. I think a big reason that people
waste their time now is because they're so stressed out

(09:41):
with work that you need to recalibrate. So on the
weekend you need to get fucked up and have a drink,
to get as much fun out of it as you can,
because you know the following week is going to be
shit or you will see it that way, you.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Know, yeah, Or you're saying as much fun as you
can or to hope.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
To hope, yeah, to reset your stress levels. You know,
there's definit there's definitely like a medicinal quotient to you know,
substance and abuse.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
No again, I'm not saying it's a great idea. I'm
just laughing to thinking about your part of wine everything
I think in his medicine. Yeah, a whiskey every night
and like a and one for the doctor.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
But you know, it is there's some sort of a
thing there, like I don't know, but I was glad
to hear someone who wasn't doing day.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Like you know, shouts out Sam sharing every time my
past day I stop on instriving, not me. And to
be fair, he's a he's a very talented artist, so
he probably feels the threat of AI more salt than
people that aren't within an industry very directly affected by it.
But you know, I do, ultimately, if if I'm to

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speak truly on my feelings on the subject, I just
think it's like you can't stop the tide. I think
like you're alluding Japan in front of the army with
a fucking a book of a cup trying to stop it.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Well, do you know what trusting think of it? This way,
Let's say when everything sort of the debris settles and
everything's okay, if drawing is a passion of yours or
or whatever may be, but now you have kind of
a universal basic income or something similar like this will
be the first time that effectively we will have to
incorporate communism.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, that that should work.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
We have the means to because see the problem with
communism before is they had fucking nothing and then they
evenly distributed nothing amongst everyone.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
The lines of people on this podcast that your advocate
and communism and they in the same time.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
I'm just saying, if you if you use, if you
use a universal system, you kind of have to like
when when when eighty percent of the jobs are gone,
they're not just going to.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Be the user. That's the best kind of scenario at all.
The other side of it is like to play advocate is.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Like only Elon Musk has money and every other person
literally becomes a dystopia where yeah, yeah, yeah it could
it could go that way as well, but like you
can sell like years of your life from what it'll
go fucking nuts it eventually. But if you think about it,
societies that need to have sort of some sort of

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unity in their countries, you would hope that they'll be
in a clever way of distribution and effectively. Then you
might be in a situation that because we're in a
position where maybe we're getting better in terms of like
energy that doesn't cost so much and blah blah blah,
you'll get to a point where like, actually there's not
as much fighting, there's not as much fucking misery. Everyone

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has a similar amount of stuff. If you love drawing,
you can still feed yourself and you can do this
onside and maybe you sell some of your paintings. And
it's really cool to have an authentic whatever.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
People will always want that for sure.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
People And bespoke, Like a bespoke piece of art is
beautiful and it's better even though Ai'll make you something
that looks great, there's an inauthenticity to it. Whereas like
I saw a guy he did a painting of the crow,
and it was just like referential from the first music
with the broken back window, but it was his own

(13:04):
little take on a really beautiful color palette and just
you're like, yeah, I'd love to hang that house.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Like you know, when Prince came along, not Prince the artists,
but actual printing on paper for artists. That was revolutionary
because they could sell multiple copies of the work that
they did from home. And I buy prints every now
and the concerge and one.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
For the actual artmor so and sometimes for their prince
as well.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
One of me ballcks like I have a couple of arms,
Like its a fuck, like do you think this is
going to be fucking like a Rembrandt? Not as me
baalis but and even before yeah, that's all not but yeah,
it's it's interesting, exciting times and scary times. I think
you're being a bit you hoping about it. I think
it'll probably And the reason that I'll say that is

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because there's like thousands and thousands of corporations out there
who were set to lose loads of money on yeah,
and they're not the ones in charge of, oh, let's
give everyone universal best game income.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yes, and so they're in charge of making their stockholders happy.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
So like how that checks out was probably going to
be I think.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
That's that's sort of fifteen years dystopia that you spoke,
but it was it was nice to hear something because
everything about AI is doing saying yeah, whereas this guy
was given a bit of a different take, but he
did to your point. He did articulate that there's going
to be the broken eggs before the analyst situation, which
is probably going to affect an unbelievable amount of people.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
You see. Yeah, And it's interesting because before the rise
of like this AI and how quick it's gaining momentum,
like it was probably never a better time to be
an artist because there's so many little nations. But yeah,
there's so many nations that could fill. Like you've got
Instagram to advertise, you've got Etsy to sell, You've got
all these systems and places now to be able to
sell globally automatically. It's so easy, Like even down to

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something like eye paint an A two a piece of artwork,
it's easy to buy a cardboard tube to ship that
in now, Like twenty years ago, that wasn't easy. Like
if you were from Okay, let's just let's just if
you're an artist from Wexford thirty years ago a talented
artists say, like you had no way of advertising anywhere

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that you were very good, You had no way of
Like it would have been very difficult to get the
materials to sell and like actually package your stuff properly
and ship it abroad. It would have been even difficult
to logistically ship things abroad at that time. And that
was thirty years ago for sure.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
So it's no different to music, where like a record
EXECU could be going around or not an exec but
a scout. We're going on talent on Whereas now you
just independently, you upload your own stuff and maybe you
get a bit of a wave.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
And you can ride the crest of that and make
some sort of money. But lots of people have so
lots of people have already lost out on the convenience
to get to where we are now. Ye, So like
the fact that US podcasters can just sit down and
record in this room and put it up like your shoudios.
Now money, there's a sound money like.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Radio stations like the last time anyone listened to the.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Radio, Really Irish paper are holding on hope No I
enjoy like but it's like TV.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
It's like, how often are people actually just putting on
the TV and seeing what's on versus watch everyone and
you're using your own agency to decide what you want
to consume rather than like back in the day, Like
kids growing up nowadays will never know the thrilling adrenaline
of someone shouting hurry on, the ads are almost over, or.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
They're making the popcorn or whatever for a movie, do you.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Know, and they're there. It was a nice thing, but
again it was a nice thing born of scarcity, So
you valued more if like Superman came on because you
never saw Action hero or comic book.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Movie Friday, you're a forty year old pasts around drangle something.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
You didn't have a lot of time to make.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
You didn't need a lot of So do you know
what I mean? No, But it's true, and it is interesting.
There's a it's going to be a topic of discussion.
Like as a matter of fact, I'm sure there already
our podcasts that are literally just based around this topic
and where it's gone, where we're going to come from
with it, and all of that jazz. So it's interesting.

(17:23):
I'll read this one, Eamon. Yeah, So we have one
that is quite, that's the I wanted to think about. Actually,
Oh and actually, before we get into a quick shouts
out as well to the people who re upped their
yearly subscriptions and all of those people. You know who
you are. We've already showed out on the pod. If
you look, another shout out, let us know. But yeah,
thanks very much. Chairs Okay, So ancient Roman big foot

(17:47):
Eamond people are saying that they found unusually large shoes. Yeah,
and they're puzzling archaeologists. So this is yeah, to get
to a stash of massive two thousand year old shoes
or dug up a Roman site in northern England, and
this left archaeologists looking and trying to find out what

(18:08):
the crack is like. So these shoes were eleven point
out inches, which is the size of forty nine in
Europe and the size fifteen in the US. And I
assume it's the size of a size twelve in the
UK fifteen.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
I think the US is just one ahead of us,
so it's like a fourteen here.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
I thought we were like one to one with inches
when you measure your foot. Sure, I thought we were.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
I'm not sure we usually have because we usually do
it in like double digits, well single digits if you
have tiny feet.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
See, I think my foot is bang on with like
a suicide.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Ten or eleven is just in the inch of your feet,
is it pretty much?

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah? Probably the sho size. Yeah, the shoe size is
supposed to be a little bit bigger because it has
been a gift to it.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Right, Yeah, but this would be so like fifteen in
the US is a fourteen here Yeareland?

Speaker 1 (18:59):
So yeah. Interesting. So these are archaeologists from the Vindolanda
Charity Trust founder and the trust was established in nineteen
seventy and they were established to excavack and saravan share
Roman remains at Vindolanda and Caraverin, which are part of
Hadrian's Wall in northern England. Wouldn't mind seeing Hadrian's Wall, Actually.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
I've not seen it now.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
That was the wall to keep to Scottish Shane. Leave
him in there, like I think it was. The large
shoes were discovered in the defensive ditch, often used by
Romans as a rubbish dump at the Magna Roman Fort
in Northumberland. We're all now, we're all now off trying

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to work out who might have been here, She added,
They were eager to know which regiments would have been
stationed there and why exactly there are so many large
shoes at the site compared to others. The team reported
finding the first exceptionally large shoe on May twenty five,
and they've been discovering more since then. You need specific
soil conditions and very lot oxygen for organic objects metal

(20:07):
things like world leather, textiles and stuff like that to
survive this length of time, explained From. She noted the
team are probing the history of the Roman Empire for answers,
stressing people of different cultures and backgrounds would likely have
been meeting at the site. When people think about Romans,
they think about Itatalians. They sometimes forget just how broad
the empire was and how far it stretched. Yeah, I

(20:28):
mean Denzel Washington has gone around there for a while.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
You know, do you ever see that meme? You know,
that iconic scene from Gladiator he runs his fingers through
the corn. It's like that, but it's tassels and nettles.
It's very funny. Well, just for reference, while you were
reading that out, I looked at shaquill on Eel's shoe size,
which is twenty two. So I was gonna say, there's

(20:54):
a precedent for men with large feet who may have
existed back then but two thousand years ago.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Saw Okay, so we're going to get into like eugenics
here in terms.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Of people are much smaller and all the rest, but.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
We're going to get in in general. Like I'm not
sure how accurate it is, but a lot of people said,
the reason that the black lads in America are so big,
like is because slave breeders were breeding some of them.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
And they generally like the muscular and stuff when they
got to the Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
But they were literally doing select the breeding right, okay,
as you would with a fucking pet, which is totally
fucking insane, But that's what the slave keepers were doing.
So that's why, like you see like like put it
this way, you've got to fucking Ethiopia or like Chad
and you're not seeing fucking shaquillo on eile or a quarterback.
You're seeing just regular But now you could say lads

(21:44):
and fucking Somali aren't drinking protein checks and fucking anabolic steroids.
But it's generally true when you think about it, Like
all the guys that are playing basketball like in Africa,
you're not seeing Big seven and a half of black dudes,
you know.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, but I suppose I suppose every now and then
there's kind of a genetic and then they breathe it out.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah. So that's the really grim side.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
That's pretty horrible. Yeah, but that but there is how
many how many hundreds of years of slavery in America
or how how long was the period, you know, because
I don't know if the top of my head, it's
my slavery existed, just like save slavery still exists.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
I suppose, like you know, I think a lot of
racists will say that, like, well, there were slaves in
Africa before there were slaves anywhere else, and we just
you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I suppose that for
spetball and ideas if there was a slavery system in
Africa at the time.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
So potentially you're doing back then, absolutely, because I was
actually wondering about how many generations to create in the
American slave time frame?

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Would that long? You'd imagine, because if you think about it,
like like if I had a child with someone that
was six for five or seven, our child is going
to be six or five.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Likelihood yeah, but there's always.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
There is an around. I'm sure back then you just
trow them in a ditch. Not about it. This is
going until you do, is it? Until you get it right?

Speaker 2 (23:15):
And that's and I mean to be fair, even if
you just consider that, if you think about the vast
amount of breeds of dog there are, and to my understanding.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
That was originally yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah, so that's that's kind of like how long would
we as human I suppose I been breeding dogs for
a few hundred years, right, Maybe it's easier because of
the time frame in which they would have a litter
of pups or whatever. Yeah, if you break a yeah, yeah,
I am strange, like obviously, like anyone, I disagree with eugenics.
But at the same time, some of them strong talk

(23:48):
are pretty cool. That's a pretty cool look to have,
you know.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
I mean like like like, but I think it's going
to be hired to have it. Maybe we'll call it different.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Communism has a lot of a lot of negative connotations
on account of Joey Sell, maybe.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
We should shack Castro.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Castro, Yeah but Cuba crack no, he didn't.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
He didn't make it look very well.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Fidel maybe made it look a bit more appetizing, but
good healthcare. Mousey tongue, yeah, mousey tongue, mousey to mousey tongue.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
No he didn't. He didn't degrade either. It's funny. Yeah,
I wasn't even saying my dad was he a big
believer in communism? She've seen all that over because he
had classes. He would have been shown here's a one
different man with classes.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
He would have went over there. I quickly realized, I'm
not so much of a believer. This is what is it?

Speaker 2 (24:41):
They say if you're not a liberal, and I suppose
communism would have been a more of a liberal thing
to think of in this the world back then. So yeah, radical.
So if you're not a liberal in your twenties, you
have no heart, and if you're not a capitalist in
your thirties, you have no head. Father quickly turned into
a catalyst.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
No, it's the whole thing is interesting. I suppose where
the shoes came from big Foot obviously, I mean the
probably big battle big Foot. We know that Bigfoot historically,
and just to get shoes to build the walls to
keep out big Foot. Why would they build shoes for
big Foot? Big Foot historically shoes at the guards and

(25:22):
they went down over the wall. So they gave Bigfoot
made the shoes. Yeah he had, he was making in Scotland.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Mason's the only Bigfoot is known for wearing shoes.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
As far as I'm wearing, I don't know what shoes
back then, we don't know. That's true. Yeah they made.
Maybe they appeach British versions big Foot take this shoe.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
It would have been classic because you know, you're a
warring nation, you're known for your strong empire, your strong army,
and then you find a fucking seven and a half
foot monkey man and he chooses to join your army
for a pair of shoes with.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Mother around with him. Probably had a troop of big
feet fighting for him.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yeah, it's amazing it turned out the way it did
was with a troop of big feet. Imagine you just
had ten big foots, you could just battle big face
like ninjas that would just appear out of nowhere whenever
you needed them.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
The big bastard, remember them, the big lads, the big ogres.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
That was that the lady with the red hair that
John snow banged, or they the big giant lads. She
was a wild ling wasn't she. Yeah, but you're talking
about the other feathers giants that were.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Part of the white Yeah, yeah, the giant lads, so
I couldn't like them, but I don't know. Yeah, it's
very It is actually unusual though, that there was either
one person with big, mad large face or a lot of.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
I think I think it is large for that man,
fifteen is large. But then to put it into context,
if Shaq is twenty two, you know, I've already explained Shack,
that's the crack, which I don't think you have.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
What I have explained.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
What I'm trying to say is the possibility of some
one wrapped someone being born that just had real big.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Feest but real big feed back. Then man would have
been a size ten like her size eleven.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah yeah, but shack size like a size twenty two
isn't real big feet. Size twenty two is insanely big feet. Now, man, listen,
and they could have been doing your gen X back then,
the one with a big foot.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Look driving the water for dry you're past the ferry bank,
you're going down towards the bridge. There on your left
hand side, there's like all Irish cottages, they're like literally
the door on them is like four foot.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
To try and get in.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah, like we were like hobbits people. Basically is known
for Ferry Bank Challenge. But and the hush smoking wild people.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
They're smoking hash.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
But no, I think I'm going to say it was
a big foot. It's the only rational, really especially.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Rational explanation a man with big feet. No, it must
have been big foot. I'm happy to row in behind
that just for the sake of convenience.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
What's that? Sure would probably say? Wor tame are we?
I was?

Speaker 2 (28:04):
I was an eleven Now I'm at ten my mickey
as well, unfortunately and a half. Yeah, well ten and
a half a super as well, and I can fit
into eleven. But it starts to feel a bit crusty
the clown.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
I did as a twelve or eleven?

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, as a bit of a tighter.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
How's your how is your The width of your foot?
Is that?

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Ever?

Speaker 1 (28:26):
I was just gonna say them and by my Pokemon crocks, Yeah,
I didn't buy them.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
They're very catching. Like I've been just staring at them.
There's so many colors and stuff on them. I feel
like a cat when someone's waving around the tread.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
So if you're watting a bit of cracking fall. These
little things are gibbits gibbits, and they're custom little things
you're sticking in your crocks, And are.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
They This is a whole custom crock, like they've Pokemon
the crock.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah. Well we've seen them in Japan, of course, and
of the artist, Yeah, we've seen them in Japan. And
Cara was like, I have to buy them for your birthday. Yeah,
and I guiltily like I kind of didn't want them,
but I also did really of course you did so
because I actually I had a pair of statue flip
flops of course, which I snapped, so I needed a

(29:17):
new pair of like I need a new pair of houseware. Yes,
so I'm not doing the camera sort of petitioner idea
and I am like, lad, spice of camera, my verstat
flip my Pokemon crocks snapped.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
But to be fair for the camera, because of all
these ivory back scratchers like a crewed over the years.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
To be fair, I mean actually I had them for years.
But the gibbits are good in Japan, and the cracks
stored ers gibbits.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
All over and because there's a big mark like you
wouldn't probably, well, actually, I think it's a lot of those.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Now.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
It is funny that for your birthday she brought you
a Pokemon crock and I bought you a Jurassic Park
small Cats. Just fairly say if we get you a
pair of Batman boxers, now it's a seven year old's dream.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
All of that, you see, this is the thing. I
think all of that stuff, like all the autism centric
it actually reinforces badness. But at the same time it's grammed.
Like my math one year just bought me like Star
Wars everything, and I'm like Matt, like I like Star Wars,
but like I'm not fucking Captain Star Wars. But it is.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
It's nice though that like someone will associates your love
of something.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Yeah, Like for my thirtieth birthday.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
My sister, my friend, my sisters, I was, my brother
in law had drawn a picture of me as Batman,
like the mask in my hand, and it was like
happy thirty ath birthday, and the whole thing was a
Batman Let's go like surprise party, which was for a
man who was like had been an adult for twelve years.

(30:53):
Was pretty funny, you know.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
See. See, the thing is I'm meant to be collectible,
is like, but I think part of the reason I'm
into misers and intrinsic monetary value to it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yeah, that's kind of the opposite of it's really it's.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
A hilarious thing. But like that.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
One of the funny things about it is I was
explaining this too because we have are like game set
up and look at this game. That's where two hundred
and fifty euro and then I just went, I would
just have to find someone who would want to spend
that on it. But technically the assets, yeah, see, this
is the thing.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
So a part of from another another like us Huge Wexford,
celebrity walker, a sort of a just transcends Wexford would
be shenf arl who from Exert No personally he lives
in America now, but he has a channel called brick Books, okay,
and he makes like one hundreds of thousands a year

(31:51):
buying the selling lego Yeah yeah, And he's been in
like fucking New York Posts and shipped an article Onlment.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
They're like, what do you think to sell legos? Some Yeah,
so he just buys the stuff that's gonna go like
that's going to be.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
The retired retired sett So for people that are run
initiated or runs on like a time cycle, so you
get two years of.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Like license whatever.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah, the Death Star right or the Millennium from Star Wars.
After like said two years, that won't be on the
shelf anymore. You can't buy it. They're not printing it anymore.
And they honor their retiring of a set like I
was retired, they won't print it again. So then what
happens is fellow artists the years down the line want

(32:33):
that set, but now I can't buy it anymore. But
that's a really cool set, And then they'll find break books.
Shanna Farrel, he's got a fucking stores can enter the bastards.
He sells the tape with and a crude interest and
so that's how it works.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
So it's basically you just need to startup capital costing.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
They just spend a bit. It's not what I was
risk all this stuff. There's a big way of right
now with Pokemon and everyone's buying Pokemon cards and there's
like crazy scenes. Have we seen this in Japan? Did
you see what happened in Japan? Which is actually like
the least it's actually it makes them worse. That happened
in Japan. Actually because Japan and it was quite good
for this ship. But they released an exclusive POKEMONK card

(33:15):
that was released with Happy Meals in Japan, and the
POKEMONK card is just like fairly unremarkable about the artwork
is like Pikachu sitting down and having a big mac,
do you know what I mean? Saw like motherfuckers were
buying like ten Happy Meals and like just taking the
packs out and dumping all the food everywhere. It was
like the most gross like fucking consumers.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
This is like the equivalent of when you see like
a celebrity at an airport and you give them twenty posters.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Yeah, it's gross and like pa like there was literally
just pictures from all over Japan of just like clear
plastic bags full of wasted food all over the string.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
They even give it to the homeless, No, just left them.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Now. I'm sure some people that of course, you know,
but there's not homeless.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
And there's quite a few moments the things changed.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
They're not they do not exist. The government, it's lazy
and Pikachu runs around over there and there's a long
magical pokemon.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Kaake hamburgers or whatever.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
But so just that and what what it is. I
suppose the lesson is the root cause of all of
this tragedy is that people are so desperate now to
try and make a few bob that like they will
go to these crazy lengths. I think it's part of that.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
And then the other part is people who are already
with money are like they see.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
A lot of America now, like you'll see all these
scalp and like the scenes and I suppose I'll share it,
but listen, maybe they'll find it interesting. It's one of
those kind of strange things that's happened in the world
right now, I suppose, But like it's just because I'm
a part of that world, like kind of know. But
like people like, so, what's happened in America right now
is like I think it's WALMARTE stocks Pokemon products, right,

(34:53):
so they have shells of my products, right, So when
a new release comes out, right, some of the staff
like are getting paid off by these Pokemon lads who
buy and sell stock. Right. So there's lads like that
work there and they'll Textra buddy and go, yeah, stalks
about it come out this morning? Right as soon as
it's on the shelf, and some gross count will go

(35:14):
in buy everything on the shelves, literally everything, and then
set up shopping at the character sellness for a marked
up price. Do you think the neck on like a
jockey's ballocks?

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Do you think they should be similar to how they
control the tickets into the Master or how you can't
get codeine from the same farms.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
They're trying to man like the Pokemon Center, not in
places they want per person and all this, but when
they're doing like you're trying to tell a fucking and
this again, this is all part of the bigger problem.
You're trying to have some poor bastard that works for
fucking minimum aage and Walmart. Yeah, man, you need to
you need to stop the hordes of scalp and bollockses
that come through the shelves, like you need to check trying.

(35:55):
You need to stop all this like and like they're
not even like Walmart does everything. So it's like, man,
I'm trying to trying to stop shadows.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
I'm trying to solve that money AI in communism would.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
University based would because that's the problem I mean, is
that everyone is so hard up and this is the truth.
There's misguided people who think that they're going to get
rich off this ship too, and that's a big part
of it. Is like some people are buying salities and
they're flipping them for literally two three, four five year
old a profit, like that's the item.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
So if you just got a job, like yeah, it'd
be easy.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
But you see the problem is now everyone's so hard up.
There's none of the works. Cook groups, that's what they're
known as. Cook groups are groups on discord and and
other places. There's there's kay ones, these englishmanes, there's American,
there's Irish probably is, but cook groups aren't even like

(36:54):
so it's not like there are pokemon cook groups. But
cook groups in general are just for people who want
to make money flipping stuff based on deals that are
happening in any given shop or anywhere. Okay, So like
I don't know, I said, what these here is a
hardware store hair in Ireland. What he hasn't offer like
this fucking lawnmars one hundred and fifty earl when it's
usually three hundred gura. So like these motherfuckers buy as

(37:16):
many of these as they can and then try and
flip them for like a few bab but it's like
a hired up way of existed. But it's because people
are hard up for money, you think, like you know
what I mean, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
That's certainly part, especially if you're trying to flip it.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
But it's harder for like it it's harder now for
skilled people to get work. Like so if it's harder
for skilled people, then it's harder for it's harder for
skilled people.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
And then in a lot of economies, global economies, you're
looking at having to work two jobs just to make
rent exactly, you know, so like at least the one
thing you will you can say for Ireland is the
minimum wage is relatively equitable here. Now, if you live
in Dublin you're trying to rent there, probably not. But
generally outside of the big city it's okay. Look if

(38:01):
you get a job, but again, rents going up everywhere.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
It's it's it's a fifteen hundred a month right here.
If we were trying to our house as we would
be charged for fifteen hundred a month. Yeah, you see.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
That's the thing is that if you if you were
to work, if you were a single person working minimum wage,
you're probably coming out with maybe two grand a month,
so that leaves you with five hundred, which is fucking crazy.
So there's an expectation that people like us, you pair off,
you buy a house with your significant.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Other, you have to be a well two of us
are fairly good with.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
The hips now. But it does it. I mean for
a single income, that's you know, and then you second
into your social house and your cost rental and all
the rest of it. But like societies shouldn't be set
up like that.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
You shouldn't be.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Looking at fifteen hundred for or like you can afford
a one bed somewhere, but it's in shitty fucking state
and it costs you eight hundred euro and then you
make two grand, so you're left with twelve hundred, and
of the twelve hundred you have to pay X on bills,
X on groceries, and then the end of it, like
you know, you're left with a little bit just to
survive on.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Week to week. When I was when I when I
first moved into my very first apartment, it was in
the recession, so yeah, the artist had formally fallen out
with everything I was able to live on. Now, I
wasn't even like a king now or not. But I
was able to live. I was able to go out
and have a drink. This is like I sound like
an fell talking about when I was young, but I

(39:25):
used to get I'm not talking so I was on welfare,
so I used to get like in my pocket after
rent was paid, I had eighty euros a week, eighty orro.
And with that eighty orro I was able to do
me weeks shopping and go on to Pace once a week.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Now I wasn't even like a king. No, no, far
from I was.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
We were we were a lot younger than so, like
when you're young and you have fuck all money, it
doesn't seem to bother you much. But like you start
getting older and you have kids, you have health issues.
If you're still you're good, like exactly, you know, society
needs to recalibrate to meet these people where they are.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
But it is getting a little bit alirement like unfortunately
we've talked about on her as well, Like there's different
agitators blaming different things for the reasons that this is happening.
But like when you say most urban centers at the minute,
it's fucking depressing, Like quit quit one of the ones

(40:37):
that really illustrated to me was when we went to
Bangor because I hadn't been back.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
I had been there for nearly twenty years, so when
I went in, I was I remember being like happened here?
Like yeah, this used to be like you know.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
A real quiet, nice college lads getting paste in the ship.
It's like, what the fuck is going on? Every shop
is like.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Shop, every catering to your addiction.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Even see it's all and like that was for me.
That was one of the first ones because I suppose
even my extras maybe gone a bit that way, but
because we live heard, it's less noticeable. But then you're
like there, you're like, fuck, like Jesus, okay, ship is
getting a.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Bit, Yeah, it's getting hairy.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
But then you wonder, like it's it going to be?
Are we moving towards that kind of a future where
we developed, like d cit has become like a nucleus
and we all just stay around the cities is like
mega city fucking one because like this was happening in
Italy and know people are going like all fantastic, Like
I can buy a fucking a country house for fifteen
grand in Italy, like and then people are saying, like,

(41:44):
if you move there, you're basically living in like a
dying village.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Will better have enough money to keep well.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
There's a lot of mighty year olds that are about
to die. There's no infrastructure, nothing is being up kept. Yeah, like,
so it's grand you can live there.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Look at I and Powell like, we have to commute
a great distance to keep it to live. Yeah, And
it's you know, like I suppose the benefit of COVID,
but it's still twice a week, and even at that,
if you think of the cost to get into Dublin
getting back when you're up there, you know, it's it's
like I occasionally look at jobs down here and I'm like, shit,

(42:20):
like I can't really Like, you know, you could take
a job in here and lose a bit of cash
and probably reach parody, but to keep the wages like
and again you've got to remember I've been working in
a company for a decade, so I've worked my way
up and you get your increments and all the rest
of it start scratched somewhere else at a lower level.
You know, you lose an awful out of that.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
And it's very tricky.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Yeah, it's very tricky.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
I do wonder if that's true. Is like, you know,
you have to be closed to like a big city
or you don't want to get bombed.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
I hope not, and I hope that things look kind
of because you don't want the other side of it
is you see so many of these cities that basically
just it's where a lot of these protests are as well,
Like the thing that's really disturbed me hard to know
if it's just a media storm or if it's a
reflection of reality. There's a lot of these you know,
Indian taxi drivers getting but I don't know, like like

(43:12):
even I just don't understand why it's Indian, Like that's the.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Part, like because Indians are like the most.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
In a huge amount of tax here. Yeah exactly, And
it's just like how how like And again I'm not
saying any section should be should be a cost, but
like I can't. And again that's why I'm wondering, Then
is it just because something happened to an Indian person,
Like God, it's happened often that's fucking insane.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
For some reason, I'm targeted by like Indians in Ireland group.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Because you were so intense that the same as well,
because I'm starting to get hit with a lot of
that stuff now.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
That's so basically it's just a subcommunity of all the
Indians in Ireland. Like they're all basically saying like watch out,
you know all this happened to me, and that happened
to me. And there there was another incident to Ester, yes,
a taxi driver. I think that was like hit with
a ball or something. Again, just fucking scumb back. Yeah,
and like just that's not a lot of time Indian. Yeah,

(44:12):
and they're going to be for some reason.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
The Brazilians are like walking between the rain drops, there's
a up there. Well this is this, you know, the
Brasilians will be next. Like it's just such a shitty
thing because the people who were carrying out these things
are lads who fucking couldn't be arsed.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
As I said on the podcast last week, it's like
like the skin color is a convenient excuse. If there's
no people that color hair, Debu Tromp Battles of Mario, like.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Yeah, they find that they'd find another way.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
Yeah, Like when I had long hair when I was
a teenager and there was no black lads and there
was one and it was in Peter's college there that
I would have been single for having long hair like now.
Luckily I was always a big lad. I could take
care himself. No one tried and tried anything too fresh
with me. But people just look for a target.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Yeah, just people who were up to no good anyway,
you know, there.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Would have been you know, there's groups of dosters everywhere.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
I think the problem is there just seems to be
more and more of them coming through again, probably because
the slight he is letting people fall through the cracks
because there's no jobs, there's no opportunities.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Paper fucked off, and a lot of people are right
to be fucked off, but they're misplacing their anger and
they're being probably cralled and fucking manipulated. Algorithm friends are
bread like, they're gooning off on TikTok, watching shite that's
just melting their red, like you watch like kark Has.

(45:34):
If you heard of kark Has, he's a South African
sex Torrestel suber.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Oh is this the FEMA that has a girlfriend every
time he goes?

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Yeah? Yeah, it's sex horsk guys who then sort of
tried to pivot to like oh, I'm like a travel blogger, but.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Like, yeah, because I only saw a video, this is
really weird, just hanging out with his Colombian guy. And
then I saw different videos like he's chatting up. So
it just goes to power risk basically where they see like, oh,
here's the meal ticket, they ride him until he's finished
film and then he goes through.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
The different country. So he's been at that and look,
to be fair, some of his earlier videos years and
years ago were entertaining. Some of them. He always kind
of rubbed me up the wrong way because one of
the lads used to watch him and did put him
on when we'd be up in the house. He'd be
on in the background kind of when we're tapping, And
like some of his stuff was entertaining. Like he had
some video where he was in one of them like
really mount in the South American countries and he went

(46:26):
across like these mountains with like a goat in the
back of a car, and you know, he was getting chilling.
He was chowing's in the back of this fucking like
van with the fucking goat. But like then I watched
the video of him like a roll and he's like
chasing pickpockets. So you're like, right, okay, that makes sense.
But then like he's getting into scraps with like black home,

(46:46):
that's what's going to get back to your country? Are
you fucking done? Because he said African and you're like, oh,
you're just a big race. You're just bringing like forgot
you got back to and it's all this.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Like so he's in a different country.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
And he's going this my this is my I'm more
fucking I should be here more than you, and I'm
your opinion. I'm your opinion. It's my brother African fir stuff. Secondly,
but like I was watching and made me feel uncomfortable
ized like Jesus, so like like this mad vitriolic.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
So he does that ship and then he scottles a
few young but.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Now he's pivoting to this like kind of appealing to
the far right sort of algorithm of like let's go
and look it outrage like he went. If you watch
this video on Wrong, you think like Judge Dread was
about to pop out with the fucking going to try
and save the world. Like like when I went around Wrong,
I didn't notice a fucking pick but not to say
it doesn't exist. But I walked the link and bread
the fucking rom and I didn't notice a bit of anything,

(47:42):
do you know what I mean? Day and night, like,
and I watched in everything when I go to when
I went to fucking Prag, I like and the exit,
the time we were standing in the fucking slung and
like we walked everywhere. I was going up the black
lads and buying fucking hash. Yeah, you know, I was
in the middle of the middle of all. You get
found no I got. But what I'm saying is like,

(48:05):
if you were watching them and believe in them, your brainst.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
The thing is, there's so many people who do take
a lot of this stuff at face.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
Yeah, if you're if you're an honest or even a
gulbable person, that's you would believe it and you'd go
and because it does exist, that's and that's the other
thing it does.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
There's an element of truth.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Well, yeah, there is an amate truth and and it's
fine for people to say, yeah, I don't agree with
says some lad from fucking Africa that comes over and
he doesn't want to work and he doesn't want to
do anything, and then he ends up trying to fucking
stab or rap or do drugs or whatever, which is
a fair that's fair, and yeah, that does happen, but
the transition that, yeah, it's funny.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
How like again, if people are doing it in earnest,
just how fucking rotted their minds must be to not
be able to see the logical fallacy to get from
A to B.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
There's it's there's a lot of strange and that's gone
on in the world right now. It's really strange. Like
another one that I watched a lot of years ago,
years and years ago, and I actually I'm actually really
familiar with, Like basically his entire career was Sam Hydeen
and then million Dollar Extrame. Like I used to watch
this ship way back in the day, and he did

(49:14):
he had a show on I think it was Adult
Swim or other than Places. But they got canceled because
Tim Heidecker got kind of canceled because it was like
alt right, it was too alt right at the time,
and they didn't like what they were doing. And the
thing is at the time, right and I didn't at
the time most of the stuff that I had seen
from them, I was like, I don't think this is
all right, and I think it was unfair that they

(49:35):
got canceled, and I did believe that actually at the time,
I was like, yeah, the boys were controversial, but they're
having their crack.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
What kind of ship were they saying?

Speaker 1 (49:42):
That was like they were just like they were doing
like a lot of for chance trolley like kind of
fucking do you know what I mean, Like funny silly
ship where they'll be talking about like women in a
misogynistic web. But it was very but you know, I
was very Yeah, it's like a message. Then they were.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Saying that people who didn't get the joke would take
on those views.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Yeah, and so so this was this is the thing
that got canceled. And like Sam Hydris sound at the
time like you know, I'm you know, we're not far right,
We're not this, We're not that, We're not all right,
We're not I need this ship like we're whatever whatever.
And then last week I see he has what's the
name of the cont Kenya West was not growing for
a while. He's a he's a fucking basically in the lazzi.

(50:24):
He says, he's not in the nazzi, but he's a
fucking what's again, I don't know, but he's an awful
little ship easily fucker.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
He's not like the Grand Wizard of the KKK.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Here's not what's his name, No, he's a he's a
young political fellow. Like but he'd be like he's like
anti Trump because he thinks Trump is to walk now,
like like he'd be that. Yeah, he's like he's like
Trump has gone walk. Yeah, we need to double down
on that, like all the worst parts of that.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Let's get the trends out of the enemy. Crazy. But
but you see, I think that partially the blame. Partially
the blame is the left win so far left with
some stuff that a lot of people that weren't all right.
Like so for example, when initially it was like trans rights,
I think everybody can get on board with trans rights.

(51:15):
When they tried to make it normal for example, I'm
just using this as as an example, when it was like,
oh no, you need to give your four year old
access to Yeah, that drove them the other ways. But
that's kind of the same to make the same.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
The blacks pick pocket. Yeah, that's what I've been saying
since then. It's like, what the both sides are wrong?

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Like, you know, yeah, for sure, I agree with that.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
The fellaw's name is is it nick? Let's see, I've
got the video here a horse. What's the nick? Well,
I can't remember something, figure out. But but but what

(52:00):
I'm saying is right. So the whole thing is like, no,
I'm not like, we weren't doing any of this far
right ship. We weren't racist, We're not just that, we're not.
Now you have this motterfucker on the thing and you're
platforming them, and you're like, right, so.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
And what what what kind of views does he like?

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Yeah, ye, like we're right there right to the port
lads who've been oh god, twenty years from a car parking.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Oh yeah, yeah, like just like oh but like even
like like like brown skinned people should be here type
of ship just ship like yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Just like just like I get, I get people who
come in commit crime, the portage you can make, Yeah,
that seems like a somewhat reasonable people who were caught
illegally here at a point of entry to be saying okay,
fair enough. They seem like somewhat logical to take someone
who is actively contributing to society and just hustle them off.

(52:55):
And they have a family here and they've lived here
for years just seems to intuite.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
I'll send you like you should watch it because it's
it's actually interesting to kind of hear what people are
saying on that side. Buttons, well, it was just a
surprised as I was, like that is like, spent so
long saying that this wasn't he or this was doing
we're doing that, and then just you.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
It turns out headful wan's and because maybe is it
that it's more acceptable now and people but that's it.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Then you wonder is it like the mask slipped or
you wonder like.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Because you know what it is like, I feel like
when we talk here, we have generally reasonable conversations. We
see a little bit of the truth from one side,
a little bit of truth from the other side. You
kind of query the stuff that you're not sure about,
and we could disagree and maybe go Actually I didn't
think of it that way. That makes sense, and it
seems reasonable, Like it seems reasonable to secure your border.
Does it seem reasonable to deport someone who's been there

(53:48):
for two decades? That doesn't seem as reasonable. You can
make the hired line and goal they never should have
got here blah, But it's like a lot of things
happen in between they've contributed. Does that seem fair? Is
that reasonable?

Speaker 1 (54:00):
And radicalism? Like this is like to say to say
that like every brown person or whatever, or like main
center or like Muslims or like that's just as you see.
I think it's it's like that way is.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
You can make the argument that there is a small
proportion of the Muslim community that would be radical, that
may not adapt to the culture, which is an argument
you can make. Now that to following that rational argument through.
That doesn't mean that then no Muslims should be let in,
or you should persecute Muslims, or a moderate Muslim is
as good as a radical. No, that makes no sense
because let's just say, for ragramstake, you start having radical

(54:40):
Catholics and if you get an abortion, they'll kill you
and they feel that Christ is like telling them to
do that or something. Well, obviously we don't want that.
We don't want radical ship, you know. And and on
the other side, you don't want a completely open border
that's going to flood your economy and ruin it. So
it's it's just where is the reason, where's it rational?
Where's the rice angle? That's fair and equitable.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Yeah, it's mad because I got like I literally I
basically been watching many other extremes since, like the very
early material, like like way before they got their show
and stuff like that, and some of their old skates,
like there was an an era where the sam Hide
felt it was just a blode videos. Like he had
to move home with his math. He was probably in
his mid twenties and like he got like intentionally got
his hair cut on the ballcot, like and he kind

(55:23):
of looks a bit like Gordo. Actually it's kind of funny,
but he had a ballcot and he was like doing
videos in the mirror with the camera but like it
was just unhinged, like borderline sort of Taxi Roberts and
hair stuff. But like his math would be like coming
in and out doing like the laundry or something, and
he'd be saying like the most wild shit about like
just like ride and women or what everybody ever, And

(55:45):
she's like what the fuck? And was part of the skate.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Like yeah, it was liked or tony about someone saying
something that's absolutely you.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
Might remember he did that. He's been mentioned on Rock
and All. He did that fake Ted talk where he
pretended to be like this. He said he was this
guy who like worked in charity working mogad issue or something,
and he ran into this college like and they gave
him a ted talk and he came out drysted like
he was there in this like maroon jumpsuit with like

(56:18):
ancient Roman.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Chest player on everything, and he did ted talk where
like his name is Sam Hyde hyd yeah, where.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
Everyone was just like looking at him, going what fuck?
But he used to go around interviewing paper. He was like,
I want and he still is. I suppose has elements
of humor, and but I don't know, man, I just
think a lot of the time with all this shit
as well with the politics coming into it, you're just like,
does it have to be about the politics? Like do
you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (56:44):
But it seems like there's just a step away from
open conversation and people being reasonable, Like surely even if
you disagree with someone, you can kind of go all right.
I think to be fair, you're coming from a REASONA
you're trying to be reasonable. When you start getting into
like that fucking Sidney sweety jeans thing, I'm like, lads,
we're fucking clutching here.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Yeah, well with Sydney like's big dallies go looking yard.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
But I essentially when they made an apology being like
we just wanted you to masturblate over images of Sydney
Sweetey wearing her denim clothes, like like, look, I get
if they if for some reason it was something like
someone's intentions to make an ad about Eugennys. She's just
a hot bland blue eyes. Like I I really think
you're you're creating demons where they don't exist.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
To see what it is there is that there's behind
the scenes, like there's a lot of people that just
don't like hard because she has a magnetized Yeah, sowars,
there's paper.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
But she's just wearing a pair of jeen. I've never
heard Sidney Sweeney say, like like Dean.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Kane joined the Ice?

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Did you see this Superman joined Ice?

Speaker 1 (57:47):
The Man's fifty nine.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
And the one of the best comments I saw it,
I was like, he won't need a mask to hide
his identity because no one will recognize him anyway because
he hasn't worked in a long time. But that like
that again, you're just talking about like unhinged. What the
fuck are you doing? Team game why are you joining ice?

Speaker 1 (58:07):
Well, people believe in the cause for whatever reason. Do
you know what I mean? Like like if you walk
to the streets every day like like just to play,
that's advocate if you're right, and a Rundown town center
and you've seen fucking Albanian gangs. You've seen and you've
seen them taken off your town.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
But again that's a failure of policing and it got
all go to government. All goes back to governments, and
that's the problem they're having there. I don't know if
the government are creating a purposefully, but there we said before,
they're making us look at each other. And realistically it's
the government. It's late stage capitalists, like they're the problems
and they're causing.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Time for communism. Manwas ten to fifteen years where.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
Well, I'm talking about a new form of communism, you know,
communism neocons. I think that's been taken anyway, we do
this last story.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
Yeah, this is interesting to with our discussions.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
It just says concerning inside Irish people's romantic relationships with
AI chat box chatbots. Apologies, I have a bit of
a call, so I'm coughing a bit and you can
hear my voice has gone down a key.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
That's a ridiculous person.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
It's a look, I'm a consummate professional here shown up.
An expert has described a rise in AI intimacy among
Irish people and it's concerning, as new research shows almost
ten percent of adults in Ireland had that's fucking not real.
I've had a romantic relationship with an AI chatbot within

(59:38):
the last month. That means if we had eight more
fellas here, one of them would have done that. I
can safely say I've not tried. I might try to
have a romantic relationship. I'll check with my wife first,
but it's all right for for for research purposes, Yeah,
I'll try.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
I'll try.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Fuckings to the song Lang down. Sometimes you got to
bring the sun to chorus, you know what I mean,
bringing out I'd be like, actually, it turns out it
turns out.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
This phone and I know the type of the way
our planner, yeah, I've.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Been talking turned to me and National Mental Health Charity
says this highlights the growing loneliness pandemic in Ireland. The survey,
commissioned by broadband and telecoms provider Pure Telecom, also found
that a Further, twelve percent of adults would not rule
out such a relationship with future class. They make class

(01:00:31):
sexpotslve percent they make class sexpots. You can't tell the difference.
They don't nag Ya, I'd be like.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
I might sell this house. I think there's a lot
of members of both genders who if like, for example,
if the guards have a lame Nason, but twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Set the Mickey temperature to room get dicked down by
a cyborg.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Positive stuff to you is not to say what you
want him piss off over floor, Like, well he's he's
with Pam Anderson. Two sex symbols, Pam record, Pam fan
of the Big Mickey's Tommy the before, so we all
know it's public knowledge of there, There, There.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
The horn of gond Or pretty good. Turned to me.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
He said human.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Interaction is vital to counteract loneliness. Incredible research and stated
these findings are a stark indicator of the deepening social
isolation many people are facing in Ireland. Yeah, but also
if AI goes for a while, that might just like,
if it's smart enough to be sound, it'll just be
like a curated friend, right, which, Yeah, that's probably unhealthy.

(01:01:41):
Turn to me listed five reasons This research highlights of
loneliness pandemic in Ireland.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
This article is probably written by a.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Who then the man had a toss up over after
you got to write it. Rising AI intimacy, the fact
that nearly one in ten adults have formed romantic bonds.
I think that's bollocks. But anyway, with AI chatbots suggest
a significant number of people are seeking emotional connection outside human.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
I disagree with you because I think like that's one
of the first things people will try and do with
a chat But you could be right.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Just one in ten seems like a high amount. If
they'd have been one in.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
Fifty or hundred best on how they serve it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Maybe if they did it depends how big they're Yeah,
and maybe where they serve And they went to the
Autist Convention Comic Connor.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
That's like nine out of ten people have done the boat.
Probably ten out of ten, one hundred percent of people.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
A worrying normalization of AI romance, with ten twelve percent
open to the idea in the future. I think in
awful lot of people are. But I think a lot
of people it's more of a goon mentality. The goonies
I got my sex spot and it's time to man Like.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
I'm telling you, if I can less a human emotion
like whether it's just be.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
It can give comfort and intimacy.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Yeah, happy happiness if you get a lot of what.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
Someone said to me. You know, you have those guys
that go out as often as a can just bang whoever.
They can't. They don't care, They just need to write,
and it's like it's a miss. It's kind of like
a misfire to try and gain intimacy, which most people
would get from like a loving relationship, and they, for
some reason can only quantify it by riding as many

(01:03:16):
as And maybe it's something to do with like having
a bad relationship with your parents or whatever the fuck
or your man or your die or whoever. But yet
this seems similar. It's like a want for intimacy, but
a fear of the vulnerability that you have to expose
in order to get it right. Greater reliance on technology
for emotional fulfillment points to decline and in person socializing

(01:03:39):
and traditional dating Okay, turn to me stated that long
term dependency on non human complandship can exacerbate feelings of
isolation and hinder the development of healthy, reciprocal relationships that
have depth and emotional richness, which is vital for our
well being.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
You know, some of these reasons I think are a
bit of a rach. I'll be honest with you now.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
I tend to agree with you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
I tend to agree with you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
They stated that adult children living with their parents is
common due to the housing crisis, and that avoiding dating
due to embarrassment over this inconvenience is counterproductive because many
people can only afford buying a property with a romantic partner.
Yet absolutely true, the charity encourage people to consider less
expensive dating habits, including meeting and cafes, going throgs are
going to free museums. Yeah that's fucking grow up. Yeah,

(01:04:27):
oh I never thought of it that way. Turn to
Me emphasized that ai romantic relationships are completely insufficient for
our emotional wellbeing and can lead to further out isolation
over time. Was exacerbate feelings of loneliness.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
That's fair.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
These figures are concerning because they point to you a
very real and growing loneliness crisis in Ireland. Fiona O'Malley,
the CEO of Turned to Me, said, She goes on
to say, while AI chatbots may provide temporary comfort, they
cannot replace the depth, nuance, or mutual support of human relationships.
Yet I'm adding in the yet.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
And I'm mad. Man, if it's a good relationship, I.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Suppose you need an element of challenge, but you don't
need like.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
It's a relationship, like like, how many people just crap relationships? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Well, how many people do you know that have been
together for decades and all they do is fucking snap
at each other?

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
You know sometime? For sure? Yeah, it's like, what does
every relationship offer a comfort and have the aswer mental support?

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
I guess you can just close down those women's crisis center, right,
They're not needed. That's that's actually probably a step up
to be fair. But yeah, no, I think you make
a fair point where they're giving a really without ros
but a romantic view of relationships, right, that's ok.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Scenarios. Yeah, like I know we're in you know, happy relationships.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
They said, every time you have a disagreement about something,
you know, as long as it's not it's like you
don't want to be working a stressful job or whatever,
and when you come home you're like, what fucking fire
do I have to put out when I come in
the door. Like, you know, you always have a disagreement
with someone, but for the most part, you add value
to each other's you know, And I think that's the
important part. But there's a whole lot of people to

(01:06:04):
your point, you know, of we're not in situations like that,
you know. Yeah, and AI seems like a better thing
there if you like, if you have your male friends
and then every now and then you just go on
to the AI.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
See how but that's basically that article whatever. But I
am I always I ask questions about this sort of
thing quite a lot in my head because I'm like, uh,
you know, is it a universal truth that we have
to have companions like this? What?

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Like this because people have always liked the term spinster
but had a stigma to it, but like it was
a thing that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
Like that there's something wrong with you if you want
to be on your own, like.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Autistic, they say something's wrong with you. People like advocating
for all the different you know, like asexual.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
Yeah, like if you're a sexual.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Maybe you don't want to have a partner, maybe you
have enough from your companions or romantic the wrist, I think.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
They don't.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
Well, I think some it's like a spectrum kind of thing,
but some have said they will, but it's more of
like a stress relief thing, you know. And then you
have the gooners who it's like it's just like an
addiction of dopamine.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
Yeah, this he listened to last week's episode. He sent
me a voice and he said that allowed that had
the wank before work, jing work, and then after work.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Probably like a habit.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Compulsive.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
Remember we watched that documentary Lads Who Like Day and
we were both.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
Just yeah, but even he was like, oh, this is
where I do most of my wank, and like he's like,
people would never know how much calm that's gone on
the car, but they're.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Under the computer and you're just like. He goes into
the harbalist, the acupuncture and he's like, straight face, just
explained what he's trying to stop, and the poor Chinese.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
Lad is like, you do.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
Fucking's strange, Like, imagine how he is with it. You know,
he's fucked. He's cooked.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
Man. I don't know, Like I think again, much like
we're talking about immigrants and the sort of the rise
of anti immigrant mentality, the rise of Islamophobia, all of
those things. I think the same is true for loneliness.
It's true for anger. It's just like no one really,

(01:08:27):
well not no one, because I'm not young. I don't know,
but I know that in a lot of countries now
it's been documented. I suppose that it's harder for people
to form connections and it's harder for people to get
into relationships. You know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
I think it's because again we talk about the dopamine
and all that sort of shit. So much of the
technology caters to your dopamine, but not in a sort
of in a way that offers any kind of longevity.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Yeah, people chester tail like like like people get caught
in a kind of and I suppose it is a
form of a mental illness where they get caught chestertail,
where they get stuck in the behavior whether that Like
I'm going on the tender orminge and I'm just going
to match the people and maybe go on a date
with them, but I have no intention of settling them
with anyone. I'm just going to keep doing that and
keep doing that because I get that adopamin when I

(01:09:12):
get me match. I get that adoptame when I go
out and mate them, and I get the autopamin Maybe
we have right, there's a bit of doptmain but I
don't really have any interesting but you actual part of.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
It could be as well, talking about like the parts
of yourself that maybe need to be worked on. Is
that like and maybe there is maybe there's some sort
of is.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
There anything wrong with it all?

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
Yeah, that's what I think. Yeah, I think party is
aware of what's happening. You know, it's one thing if
you're sort of saying I want a relationship with you
and blah blah, and you're just like you're gonna yeah,
not great, But no, I think you're right, Like, and
there there's.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
A you know, is there anything wrong with that? I get?
I don't. I don't. It wouldn't be for me.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
But I don't think there's something wrong with it as
long as everything is consensual and the other party knows the.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Crack, you see, if the thing is not like the
other party can never know the crack is you want
to beget to ride if you're a fall anyway woman, like,
it's very's a different kind of thing if you that's
going to be born and you know, if you would
have them like I don't want a relationship audio on.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
And I suppose it's that it's isn't it that there
isn't there some sort of a thing where like from
what I've heard, at least that's with the online dating
in certain that's sort of an expectation that, yeah, we're
just going to ride here.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
I don't think so, No, not in Ireland. Didn't. If
you're going to like fucking dog in sites or whatever
you read up in the car parking riding someone.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
Yeah, that's a whole but that's that's the whole different thing. Yeah,
tested if you're at that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Carr Park riding some big York with like with some
grim I was going to say, but you know, yeah,
but that's that, but that's going to be like nine
lads and one woman most of the time, you know
what I mean. Yeah, you know, you might get to

(01:10:56):
a treat women or something, but most of the time,
you know, if you're on a day and say a
regular ass day, insight like it's just a fucking hole.
I like, well, if you're trying to get I.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
Think a lot of people as well, they assume that
by being in a relationship it's going to solve all
the fucking sure you have going on with you, and
the reality is whild those feelings of love will initially
clipse whatever your own hang ups are, like long term,
you're just gonna to the person and you're like, I'm mental.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
Yeah, six months later, all right, we'll get out of
here because I want to get coffee.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
And recording more.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
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