Mini Fuzz: The Return of The Red One

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
A little crypt and this is a script.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I wanted to quick against my enemies.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Yeah see you wanted to save you and then a
little little raise you.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
But I forget you from the wheeld.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Hello everyone, what is up? I am robbed?

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Are aiming?

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Ah fuck, it's emmen. I'm now with monsterful.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
I have rett.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
That's crazy. I just getting used to talking to myselves
for what.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
You know. I listened to one or two of the
episodes is quite good. Yeah, sures.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Monologue. You know, I like, I'm kind of a mental
so I don't mind talking to myself for long.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
He opens up a possibility because then they're like, oh yeah,
we'll stick these on the patron or whatever.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
It's like fun, we can just talk.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Like I forget that about the podcast. Sometimes I'm like people,
Oh yeah, people actually listen to us, Like sometimes people
write in or they'll like say something on discord or
like under like, oh yeah you said that at that time,
and I'm like, oh yeah, people actually listen.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah that's strange because you think people just laugh. Ah.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Imagine they don't seem to care what they said exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
So yeah, I hope everyone's having a good day wherever
you may be a quick reminder everyone yet that we
are on Patreon. If you would like to head on
over and support us, you get the ad free experience.
You never get more episodes over there. There's going to
be another one of my solo ones, like I'll do
it on weekend maybe, and then there's going to be
me and him and will probably record one next week
for Patreon. Maybe we'll talk fully about your Brazil journey

(01:45):
and old things that have happened last month.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, it's been a bit of a hectic.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
Tumultuous I think we can talk about the more personal things.
You're more comfortable in the Patreon Yeah, where you're kind
of like, I can't see the point in anything anymore,
whereas in the mainline episodes you're more.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Like from where my heart obviously, at least let me
get paid for it, Like you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
This is what sacrifice me when you look at your pace,
pouring myself out for what.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
So Yeah, if you want to have on over lots
of exclusive stuff, access to discord. The word of competition
is very much still in full swing, and sometimes.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
That's the gaming thing. Yeah, don't.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
I'm a victim of my own genius because the word
the more not words, you all the worst off you are.
I think it actually penalizes different intellect. It was like, because, right,
so let's letters award, and it's like, let me think
of two words like tries and flies or something, maybe

(02:51):
not try some flies, but basically two words that are
the same and they only have one letter different. Right,
Like that then becomes luck on if you.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
Get the there is an element. I haven't really played
world and maybe once in my life flies or is
it fleas?

Speaker 2 (03:06):
What's the word? It's the same word but a different thing. Yeah,
I don't know. I don't. I don't. I don't have
time for these some day I love words. I love Yeah,
keep showing up. I don't have time. It's great that
you guys have time. I'm delighted for you.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
I'm really happy that you guys all have weeks.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, I got that irony, the irony of like.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
My paste, the ass going to Brazil. I got burned
to the point where like your skin falls off. Still
don't have a time, Still look like I never went
to Brazil.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
A little bit of a time on you. But yeah,
you're not brown, like.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Nah, you're kind of read like yeah, exactly, gogle lobster. Like,
there's a few pictures.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
Of me on the show and I was putting on
I didn't even know there was a factor seventy, but
I had it on. I had the thing for sensitive
children babies. Even I was lathering it on.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
He didn't do much yet, watch out for that melanorma.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
I think the norm is watching out for me. He's returned.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
There's a whole new thing now where it's like, oh yeah,
song cream is worse than getting so fascinate one.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, like the whole world is gone. I think like
the whole thing is gone. We'll talk about that.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Yeah, I think we're gonna We're gonna talk about like
not selling guns to trans and how fucking ludicrous that
idea is.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
We can, Yeah, we can talk about.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
About anything we want. We can do until the floor
is ours.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
Yeah, we just have to do it privately in a
room by ourselves.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
And yeah, and thanks for the writings. Every wonder's a
lot of writings. So what we're going to do today
is yeah, yeah, lort're today we're just gonna have a
chat because of m and his back, So we're going
to just get back into the swing of things. But
next Monday's episode is going to be some of those
stories that you got have sent in. And there's also
a new patron hangs on there as well that I

(05:03):
can't remember the name, but I'll get to it on Monday.
And so yeah, so I suppose has there been anything
in the world of how strange neces as you've gone away?

Speaker 2 (05:14):
There's that uf all stuff, right, Oh yeah, the Congress thing.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
What's you talking about all that?

Speaker 4 (05:21):
I heard the thing about that and it made me
very sad because I was like, oh it slash, So
what is it?

Speaker 2 (05:26):
The health fire missile? Is there? The health fire.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
And if you look at it, it looks like it hits
the thing and three pieces either come off or something
and they magnetize and they're brought with the UAP, which
is class right now, just for anyone who doesn't know, apparently,
like I think they're called hell fire missiles or hell
cat or health hell something or other. But basically, like

(05:51):
when it hits this thing, it should just like everything
gets destroyed. This kind of it looks as though it
kind of bounces off it or clips it and the
thing doesn't get phased at all, and you can see
some sort of flash I think, or a flare of
it kind of breaking up sort of off screen. I
think that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Anyway.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
The big sad thing about this is and I was
listening to this on that UFO podcast with.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
The Scottish man and he does it's something it's hard
to hard to hear him when he says, Yeppe, but
he said what it could be is that actually there's
no movement here, so the.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
Thing isn't moving, and it's an inanimate ovixt so or
not an animate It is an inanimate object, but it's
he didn't say exactly what it was, but it wasn't
a manned craft or wasn't anything like that. It was
probably something that was hollow, so the missile has nothing
to actually no purchase to explode over anything.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
And the three.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
Pieces that come off like basically they're not magnetized or moving.
They're just sort of falling down slowly. But we we
can't see that because of the way the perception is
perspective is rather Yeah, it did look like it was
it did.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
It totally did. Yeah, it did look like it was moving.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
And I'm only going off because when I saw it,
I was just like, this is class I was like,
here we go, this is what we play for.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
The the hearing itself. Did you listen to it? So
I listened to the highlights of it. It was pretty interesting.
The new fellow Borland, I think his name is.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
I can't remember his first name, maybe it's Patrick, but
he was talking about some pretty mad stuff about being silence,
not being able to get jobs, blah blah blah. Inspector Wiggins.
He was good crack. But they're all Inspector Wiggins. Yeah,
it's a great name. Like George Knapp. Yeah, George Nap
did some wonderful work, just chatting through things, chatting.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
About how we got like sex old gang, full gang. Yeah,
your friend Corbell, he was there with little clippers. He
was given a discount, as they would say Portuguese, but
all that as are there. It was. It was the best.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
There's been some really boring congressional here, and I think
your one Luna was sort of manning this. She did
quite well. Did you hear her on GEO, Dude, I
know this. Yeah, you're absolutely right. I only listened to
the only time I've listened to him in the last.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
While was to hear her talking about this.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
She basically says their interdimensional doesn't go really anything anywhere else,
which is their interdimensional, which is as we all know,
is class. She's a big Christian, right, probably she's a
big Christian Jesus Pas potentially potentially Esus. So yeah, so

(08:42):
look that. I thought that was really interesting. Anyone who
hasn't seen that video, you should go and look it up.
This is all happening as thirty one Atlas is slowly
making its way towards Have you seen that weird structure
on the top of thirty one outlas?

Speaker 3 (08:55):
I've seen a picture of something recently that looked like
like an Imperial Star destroyer. That's not it, is it?

Speaker 1 (08:59):
No?

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Oh, this is kind of like it looks almost like
a tree.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
Now, to be fair, I will be the first submit
it's very hard to know what's actually true and what's
just garbage, made up content. So I'm not sure that
this structure is on it or they've identified.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
But I saw a picture which.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
To be fair, looked like AI but that could be
trying to illustrate what they're actually seeing on it. And
it's kind of like this weird it looks like organic,
it looks it looks almost like a silhouette of a finger,
a spindly finger, or at least that's what my strange
Roarshack mind. So so I don't know. Yeah, it's a
I thought they were pretty cool. It's it's it's there

(09:39):
seems to be a bit of frustration as well. But
your man Kirkpatrick, the old fella from Arrow, Lewin was saying,
break him up. I think she said in her own
like diplomatic.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Way, don't break him up. Kirkpatrick. Sean Kirkpatrick is a
Sean Kirkpatrick. He was the fellow who originally took over Arrow.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Basically, it seems Arrow were the lads who are investigating
all this stuff originally. So it seems like what what
seems to be happening is that a lot of this
stuff is getting suppressed.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Even though there's a call, a congressional.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
Call for it to be opened up and show the public.
It seems like the powers that be, the deep state,
the military, maybe not the military, but there's an effort
to basically not have this stuff going out and not
not to let the public know about this stuff. What
I will say is like, there's so much shite going

(10:33):
on in the world today, maybe the best thing is
just for the aliens to show up and just be like,
here's what we're gonna do with lads, because I had.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
A common enemy. We need, we need that.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
I don't. I don't even know if we need a
common enemy.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
I think we need like a patriarch or matriarch right
where we're bald does does gender like even I don't know,
man like that. That's all good fun, obviously, I don't
want to come mad into this world. But the biggest
thing that even when I was in I think I
was in Portugal by the time I saw that that assassination.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
We'll get an episode though, Yeah, yeah, we'll talk about Charlie.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
We will bring into it.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
I think I talked a little bit about it last week.
People actually asked so, so that's another thing. Actually, so
I did like petron questions last week or sorry listener questions,
and some people Steven Marlod actually think it was did
ask like, what are our thoughts on it? So so
we can talk a little bit about that towards the
end of the episode. Yes, because we don't want to
divide everyone.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
I think that's the whole But I think that's the
whole point.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
Well, that's certainly My takeaway without getting into it now
and get into a bit later, is if there was
ever a time to try to come together and there's
a real lack of reason or reasonability rationale that's going
on politically at the minute, and it seems like no
matter who you're looking at, it's it's just like it's

(11:56):
just like garbage stuff. But again, I think this all
ties into the algorithms, and I think that's most of this.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah, yeah, we'll get we'll definitely get into that. We'll
definitely get into that towards the end of the episode
and just have a good chat about it. Because the
Tommy Robinson March was the weekend as well. To say
that that's right, was that relative march? I think so, yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (12:20):
I think there's Yeah, that.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Was one hundred million UK is popular.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
I don't I don't know how many. Rather it was
a lot, like it was one hundred times people something
like that.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah, yeth, I'd say there was a huge amounts.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
But again I think something's the algorithms are driving this
more than anything.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
It is all for sure. But what we'll talk about now,
m And is how was your trip?

Speaker 2 (12:46):
My trip was wonderful, and phenomenal.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
Yeah, I'm only back yesterday at the time of recording,
so obviously my wife's people are all from so we
went over to visit them and look around a bit.
The first thing that struck me about Brazil they fucking
love tires. Oh they love tires. That I have no idea,

(13:16):
but there's fucking tire shops everywhere. Tires, tires, tires right,
actually you know those. The only time I see Brazil
is when people getting robbed, but usually there are tire
shops somewhere.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
There's always tire shops. Man, just tires, like there was
so they have like there and it's it's pretty.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
Upsett and like they're obviously you've got the favelas and stuff.
And a step down from the favelas is people who
basically they make ramshackle shacks.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Like on a little green area in the middle of
tires stuff like that. Here's where you get. Here's this fella.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
He had gotten a bit of two by four, gotten
some tire he had done. He had done a good
effort of getting like, you know, kind of a hovel
together for himself. Just had a few tires as well.
No car, just had a few tires.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Like tires, or you can build us called an art
arth ship with tires and arth.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Ships are cool. What is the earth ship?

Speaker 3 (14:16):
This was like one of my dreams to build when
I was younger. I might still fucking do one. Actually, basically,
it's a house that's made out of tires filled with
compacted soil. So you cut the tires open, No, no,
you keep them. You keep the tires.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Oh, you put the soil in the y. Yeah, that keeps.
They had three tires, so you had a bit of
a way to go.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
But maybe his vision, yeah, and I I look, I
can appreciate a man's vision, but they fucking love tires.
That was the first. That was my first thing that
I noticed. Didn't really know as much else about anything.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
I didn't. I didn't get into any trouble. It is.
It is like it's fairly rough and ready. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Yeah, to be honest with you, it's just like you're
you're in slap appies. I won't say their slapappy, but
like it's I don't know if Brazil is technically a
third world Country's right, it's a weird thing because if
you go up like they's so basically their cities, we're
into so Polo, if you're in the city of it's
like New York or Vancouver or something.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Totally big matters, skyscrapers has everything in it.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
But in tandem with this, you have just this fucking
horrific levels of poverty that are just it's like there's
a thing because we begetting ubers everywhere and obviously we
didn't have our own transport.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Right, but there'd be horrible stuff where you'd.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
See like a nine year old in the middle of ice.
So do you remember in Ireland the used to sell
the Herald and when the cars were parked like the
stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
So they're really like.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
They're selling sweets or selling like window or whatever the fuck,
but they're probably trafficked.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Even that's another level of classness.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, traffic.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Hope not even done it for the family.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
Probably do for some, but I think I think him
your child. Yeah, he sell this fucking candy ship ahead.
It's it's horrible to see. And then because because Paolo
will be very like.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Compassionate, I think that's a sympatical but like so so
basically she talks.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
A lot about she would be very left leaning in
Brazilian politics, American as well i'd imagine not.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
But like, yeah, left land in Brazilian politics is like
but they're still very conservative.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, it's like it's conservative, but it's so basically one
of the one of the things in that Lula who
is Lula means the squid. He's the president, he's the president.
I've got h to tackle.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
The goalkeeper for Partinam was called the octopus.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
The actually was the scorpion. Kick.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
Yeah, I think we should all be named after animals,
you know.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
The pug.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
But basically he's trying to bring something in I believe,
where like you don't get taxed on your first five
thousand reales, so for anyone who doesn't know a euro
to REALI there's like six point two really to every euro, right, right,
So like something that costs fifty realyes is basically costing

(17:31):
less than a tenor right, so the conversion generally speaking,
you're gonna pay a lot less for stuff in Brazil, right,
So it makes it does make sense if you're someone
who only makes a thousand dur a month, you would
kind of say, and I think Ireland is the same,
we don't tax people up to sixteen grand. Yeah, I
don't think makes sense now, So basically the and I

(17:55):
feel like this is a very reasonable thing to do.
The people who are sort of row bows an arrow
or whatever, more right leaning. And I'm describing this in
a very.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Binary way as well.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
I'm aware of that, so I'm not talking about all
the people in the middle, and I'm sure there's plenty
and and you know, various sides of that. They don't
want to do that because they're saying, why should they
get this, not realizing that, like, no one will get
taxed on the first one thousand, you'll get taxed on
the ship after that. It's like what we do in Ireland,
which I think makes sense. The more money you make,

(18:29):
the higher your tax becomes on that money you make.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
So if you're like even.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Lesser, multi multi millionaire at all, well.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
This is the thing, yes, and then and then the
problem you have there is that when you try people,
it's only when you're in the middle. Yeah, so, like
I get taxed at the higher rate.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
Idiot, Exactly, I should have heard a millionaire. If I
was an oligarch, this would never have happened. But it's
amazing that, like it's amazing that these people are saying, like, oh,
they can, they can rise up. They why they have
the same opportunities we do, blah blah blah, And like
I'm seeing these fucking children man on the side of
roads with nothing.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Like you talk about poverty in Ireland.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
It's not the same, and it's it's a really it's
a Startland. It's a startling kind of thing to see.
But you're looking at Brazil and they have the exact
same issue that we'll be talking about later with polarization,
which I imagine is largely driven because you've got to
remember as well, there's elements of Brazil, elements of it

(19:27):
that are way more developed than anywhere in Ireland structurally,
way sounder, much better. But there's also elements where it's
like nineteen fifties Ireland all in the one spot. But
both areas have access to high speed internet and have
access to everything that goes along with that.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Ce you and either sort of thinking men, Thespian genius.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Kind of actors makeup where long sortitude.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
We're like all of those things, right, Aristocrats, aristocrats, aureacrats.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
We are we're like well, I think, but we're also
like hired up for cash and very we're struggling concept.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
But you know what, because we're so intelligent, we don't
We don't use your phones all the time. You say,
all these fucking idiots out there, right, they're on your
phone getting.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
The brain rotted out of them all day every day.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
And if they're not looking at if you're not looking
at if it's a woman, if they're not looking at
their mates and getting jealous or comment on someone's parents,
that bitch that are so fat.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
They're looking we're looking at some Instagram who doesn't look
the way that they on Instagram like.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
They're looking at Like then they're looking at some brain
ras fucking divisive ship. Sound as the lads, like lads
are watching they're getting battered with, like Andrew Tay like bullshit.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
They're coming for all of us.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
He had a hated grace What was it like one
of his videos, because I've been curious to see, like
what are these lads actually saying?

Speaker 2 (21:00):
I actually say and you put on some of you
are like, all right, well that.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
Seems you've been exaggerated, and then you're like, no, no,
that's fairly on point.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
But but you see, because we're not like consuming that
all day every day, we're not being influenced by influencers,
and so the likes of you and I am. I
like to think a lot of people that listen to
our podcast are kind of crusty wooks, so they're probably
the same. They're not really getting stirred in and influenced

(21:28):
in that way either, and so and so we're actually
more at risk. I said this last week on the pod.
We're actually more at risk because we're in the middle.
And it's that kind of stand for something or fall
for everything kind of thing or whatever is the expression
we see the genius expression only people reference for something

(21:50):
you'll fall, but it's but that's the crack, is when
your only choices are like but you're gonna get wrong,
shoot a man, or like you know, it's sects of
us in the film, like we're lads like that live
out in a little farmhouse in the country, and like
the cannibals come out and like bomb your wife and
cut your neck in front of watching your wife getting bombed,

(22:11):
and then they go off and do their thing, Like
we're fucked because we don't have there's not representing us
properly anymore. We don't have like I watch, I watch
all of this ship.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
Like I watched, I tried to the left and the right,
and I'm saying left and right. I'm just using those.
I don't believe it's necessarily left and right, but I'm.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Using Sometimes people comment, but sometimes people comment to and
or leave a comment on Spotify about something that you
have said, and I agree with the comments, just like, yeah,
I know, man, it was something about I think I
can't remember something about like something or something like, yeah, man,
I know he's wrong.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
I got your brother, I heard it.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
I can't remember, but no, yeah, Brazil, i'd said, there's
a very big divide there and it is like any
big city. But like to be fair, right, like China
is probably like that, Like there's probably a lot of
spots in China that are like ultra modern, fucking crazy looking,
but then fucking rural China, like making the they're scooping

(23:20):
out the fucking oil light with the fucking you were saying, Megan,
fucking Megan chorals out of the swamp oil.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah, well look this was.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Crypt crypt.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
See, after we were in we went to like.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
Lensoy, Marinances, which is like a cold tropical culture. Oh no,
but that was like the first level of resident evil,
you know when you go to that and like you're
in Africa and like black laves, like they're just flats
that are less black basically predominantly. But it's a like
I wouldn't say impoverished, but it's like there's little industries,

(24:10):
there's little shops and.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Stuff like that, but like poor. It's so super poor
and has like one of the most beautiful places on Earth,
probably Superstar.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
They even second Mega drives.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
They wouldn't even have a Mega drive there.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
There was like there was one night we were coming
home and we're driving in the dark and so basically
there's no real roads at a certain point, you're just
driving through dirt roads and start to get the hebg TTV,
which there was one place that just had one place
that had all TVs from the nineties just on a
wall as to say, my new TV is so good,

(24:45):
I don't even need these TVs.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Like it's it's bizarre.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
But there was one night we were driving around it
was dark and like you are getting the hebgb's, you
have to remember as well, I'm the only white in
this entire place, you.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Know, bow down to me. They did not know the
it you're a bit sketchy, Like it's there's.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Times when you're kind of go, right, I have to
just keep me with about me constantly, like I just
go out for cigarettes before bed, and you have to
just keep your eyes open, make sure.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Like I was just like, try me, try me. No,
they would have destroyed me. But there was one night
where in the middle of nowhere and.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
Like the lights of the car would just like flash
over and there's just people in the middle of nowhere
at nice and it's it feels like spooky.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
They're not doing anything, but you're just like, what's going on?
But it is a bit spooky because there is the
risk of death.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
Well there's the risk of just like people who and
again I will really reiterate, we had no problem with
anyone over there. If anyone is robbing money from it, who.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Was doing that?

Speaker 4 (25:55):
And it's not it's not there's there's no racial thing
about it. It's it's a socioeconomic thing obviously, as is everywhere.
But yeah, it was just it was a bit strange.
And then you're kind of reflecting on that a bit.
And most people were lovely, really really nice people. I
had my like pigeon Portuguese trying to talk to lads.
This lad that we said, and he had sort of

(26:16):
made this like it.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Was it good for your Portuguese? Actually, did you find
a little year You can?

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah, you can understand bits and pieces, or you can
understand people are talking like an ad story. Yeah, finding
your mark, I believe it is the expression.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
So it was really good and it was Look, it's
good to be able to chat a bit more to
Powell his family, even though like the the three year
old at one point in Portuguese just went up and goes.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Why don't you talk Rice, you know, which is pretty funny.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
That's goods he knows that you're not talking.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
She yeah, but she does, you know, so my my,
my Portuguese is less than that of a three year old.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Unfortunately. Yeah, she's like, I'm only three and I know
all these words. Motherfucker.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
It was I was wonderful, like the G.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
Seven everything is a seven and no, it was a
great It was a really really great place. It was
great to me, you know, some of his friends and
stuff like that. It's weird because it's one of those
places like we take for granted that everywhere just speaks English.
You'll be aware of this from being in Japan as well.
You know in certain areas that that's that's not the.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
Case, that's class.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
Know, it's it's really class when you're with another person
who doesn't speak Japanese, when family and everyone not not
that it's not that it's bad, but.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
You're kind of like you're listening.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
It should have just went full autism and just talk
to stay back in front of I'm always, I'm always.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
But no, yeah, it was a great holiday. I will
say that place as well, even.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
Though I've said this, you know les Mari names is
like you know the area is in Irish but like
when you actually go out, it's it's effectively like dunes
as far as the eyes can see, with lagoons in
in the concave part and there's a three yeah Timothy
Shame with swim pools.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, is another one Batista. There would have been there
cratures in It's like you know the Chinese yoctual you.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
Put your feet in the all those on so they're
nibbling away on you while you're in the water.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
But of the mickey parasites in the water up your
I'm aware.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Of so far.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
Thankfully, I think I weed in the water, so I
couldn't get it. If if you wet into the water,
it goes.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
I think I think you're probably right. Yeah there as
far as I know now, the mickey is as battered
as it was before I left, so I think we're
all right.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
But no, it's a it's a great place. And I
brought you back some Brazilian Brazilian yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
The Valium, a gang our cap and a Pokemon manga.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
Pokemon manga. He brought you back some Kashassa. It's actually Japanese.
Chassa is like Brazil's main spirit. Cool, but that is
Japanese Brazilian Coachassa from liber Dagi, which is the Japanese
part of of of so Polo. It's fifty two percent.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Strong to be handled carefully, be careful. Yeah, that would
be sucking ra fifty. Yeah. I've got a couple of
nights out there this week. Fucking really, Jory, Joe, you're
getting fucking Christens and fucking weddings, so.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
You're you're You're just on the sauce now, seems I.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Just want to seem to be left alone, that's all
I want.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
You want to be left alone with a few cans
because that's where it goes.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
Yeah, I haven't drunk in a while Japan have a drinks,
but maybe should I think now, maybe I've got a
fucking another when coming up in.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Two weeks as well. It's just too much getting married now.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
It's not even like I don't even know, so I
just have to rock up and hello everyone, just.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
You should go to just bring ticket.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
I think I might be like anyone like the tree
dys Look at all these games. I'm playing Pokemon Black
at a minute, just like tore.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
This original.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Maybe if I stop, maybe if I unmasked and just
go and just be like here, look as I wanted
was a tree dy s?

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Actually what would happen if we actually unmasked?

Speaker 3 (30:38):
That's why I wonder, like I've kind.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Of actually just acted exactly how you wanted to all
the time.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Se So this is the thing, right, So I wonder
are we masking by not doing that all the time?
But that does seem very far removed from me.

Speaker 5 (30:53):
That's like people do have something into society extent, But
I don't know, like is that asking though, because you
and you're normal spicy, so I don't know.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
I would imagine it's it's like masking level one, like
that everyone has to mask, like I want to curse
at everyone I work with all I just want to.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Be like fuck you or dirt.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
I like you, but you're still a smell Like I
want to go. You can't care anymore? Like want on
er lingus.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
No, let's see whatever you want to give a fuck.
It's just like there's a party, and I think I
think there's some sort of a sweet spot because if
you keep everything you know behind the mask, I think
that's really bad for your health, or at least that's
what they say. Maybe it's not. Maybe it's way better
for your health.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
You know, to be honest, which is now to be honest.
I'm starting to just not believe anything.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
I'm just like yeah, whatever.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Like I yeah, I'm starting to get like I just
detached from everything. I feel like I feel like a
helium balloon that's been cut from a string. I'm just off.
So by you're a big.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Garbage. You're just like a big helium balloon.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Geng or Ghastly would be more prone to drifting off.
That's his prioryvolution. Let's just on mask and talk about
Pokemon for.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
I don't know much about straight fass only up the
Street Fighter for I put my mask on by Street
Fighter Fighter.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
But no, Yeah, I'm just saying so I talked a
little bit about last week about the assassination of Charlie Harton.
Since then, actually I've watched them. I think they're really
fucking awful videos. Actually there's this YouTube channel where they're
like Jordan Peterson twenty twenty people debate. Oh yeah, fucking socringe.

(32:53):
First off, the first few things about them that really
bugged me is like when you have right char the
Kark in this one that I watched, who's in his tarties,
I think.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Right debate and all these fucking eighteen.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
Year old depend all the editing year olds, and he
control not that one necessarily, but he controls the content
of all the debates he's put out.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
But it's like it's like watching like Floyd Mayweather boxing
like a thirday and all that from the local boxing club. Yes,
you're like, okay, so this is a guy who's like
really well experienced saw Well, I'm not taking anything away
from charge Kark, but what I'm saying is all of
dolls videos, which by the way, are the things that
everyone sees on TikTok, which are the things that everyone
says on Instagram rails.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
All of dolls.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Are really really poor representations of any sort of dialogue
on anything. They're fucking awful, like they're cringey. Like I
watched the Jordan patersone and I almost laughed the way
through because I was just like, this is fucking hilarious.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
There's a man in his seventies talking to a load
of nineteen.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
Years I'm trying to be the smartest man room, and
it's just like I just.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Combined age barely hits yours.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
And I'm not trying to say it, by the way,
like I'm not I'm not trying to say that I
would go in and have a better debate with either side.
But what I'm saying is if it's not really apparent
that there's a huge sort of power disparody there, and
there's also huge, huge differences in like world experience, like
debate and experience like all these different things, then it's

(34:18):
kind of like you should fucking have a slap on
the fucking side the head. And actually, you know, cop.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Off, that was his whole thing.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
And if if you actually because I maybe I've consumed
a handful of hours of Charlie Kirk stuff before any
of this, before the assassination happened. The first thing I
will say is, look, I think if you're out there
celebrating the man getting shot in the throat, probably like
that's fucked up.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Did he say things that I agreed with? No? Not really,
like not that I'm aware of. He not. I didn't
think that he was like he didn't seem as.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
Though he was an awful human, but like he had
some views that were quite hard to.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Actually go And I think it's the same if I
was to sit down and watch like some trans person
and they were rattling off like a really extreme point,
Like I would probably feel a certain way about that too.

Speaker 4 (35:11):
It's the extremities on either to your point. And like,
so his stuff was informed by the Bible, So like
people I know, there was stuff going out to say
that he was, like he said you should stone the gaze.
But then there's lads who are gay, like Dave Rubin.
I don't like him, but he did. He's another one.
He's Dave Ruben. Matthews. Charlie Carr was fucking not mat
isn't Matthews? Who's I think it might be Matthews.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Actually I couldn't getting the second name wrong.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
He's a fellow who did What Is a Woman that documentary,
Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson to a lesser, but he certainly
seems to be going that way, which is really upsetting
because when he first came, that.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Seems that banished from that. Now I think, isn't they he's.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
They have all just seemingly gotten They've gotten swirled up
in the algorithm, the same as everybody else.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
But also these men are making serious moments from these things.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Serious, Like I think it's I think there's a lot
of insidious shake on on lately, and I think, like
you were saying about algorithms and stuff like that, all
that needs to be figured out, and like people need
to figure out why that's happening. And I kind of
did in Layman's arms, at least from the perspective that
I understand as a quote unquote content creator. But what

(36:24):
I do know is like if you say more extreme things,
you will get more money. It's quite it's quite a
simple recipe.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
Like, look, if someone says right as I feel, and
I believe I said, or I would say, Charlie Kirk,
that shouldn't have happened to him. It's reprehensible that happened
to him. Didn't agree with everything you said. Freedom of
speech means he should have the right to say it.
No different to absolutely fire left saying. I think that
I wouldn't celebrate if any of them were killed, and
I also wouldn't agree with a lot of what they

(36:52):
would say. I try to find the thing that is
most reasonable. And you take bits from this argument of
bitter this like you wouldn't you wouldn't disregard everything he said.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
He talks a lot about family and family values. They
are good, family values are good.

Speaker 4 (37:06):
Then he talks about how homosexuals shouldn't have a family.
I think I don't even know if he said that.
I'm going off some bullet points of saying. So I
apologize if that wouldn't be surprised, but that would be
something that I wouldn't be able to agree with, do
you know what I mean? So, like, there's elements of everything,
like do I believe that, Like if someone feels like
they're in the wrong body, more power to him. If

(37:27):
they want to adress a certain way and get surgeries
and all the rest, Do I agree that the three
year old should be able to go down that path.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Maybe not. I think we have to think about that one.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Right, And it's just wait until you're four or five.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Yeah, that should be fine, you know then.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
But it's it's trying to like it's it's these two
extremes that are going like, well, if you don't agree
with this, then you fucking advocate.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Identity politics, real device of shit, who's Caprian?

Speaker 2 (37:52):
And that's the thing. And with the algorithm. Because of
the way we're humans.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
If we watch a movie, we don't watch a movie
where it's like, oh that movie was last what happened?

Speaker 2 (38:00):
And nothing?

Speaker 4 (38:01):
It's the movie Spider Man five. He never puts on
the spider suit. He just goes to work in the
daily Bugle for the days, he has lunch, talks to
a few people.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
And that's the full movie. That's not entertaining.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
It's the conflict that's entertaining. So if you are of
a certain political persuasion, then the content that will be
cater to you will put you further down into that
and all of a sudden, like look out the window
and furthermore with this whole assassination. Seemingly if they have
the right fellow who did it, which it seems like

(38:32):
they did. He was fucking warped by internet and gaming
and like that that the algorithm. No, that's so that
caused him. But here's the other thing. Now you have
fucking the highest office in America saying like, oh yeah, well,
it's the left radicals, not the right radicals. Even though
there's been more violence with the right over the last

(38:54):
thirty years, I think seventy five percent more, it's always
white lads with guns acting the maggot that are doing
this shit, Like, none of this makes sense, You can't.
We need to find a way that's thing come together.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
Well, that's what it is is people are people are
People are trying to make sense out of it from
their lens and trying to skew it in a way
that makes sense and is digestible to their party or
to their clan or to the people that they want
to hear their message. But it's like I can't like

(39:28):
when I watched that Charlie Ark video today, he's de
bend those twenty kids or whatever, and I actually I
can't get behind anyone who says like, oh.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Well, it's in the Bible, so that's it.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
Then, Like that to me is just like yeah, but
that's I can't Like Like that to me is like
if you're going to hang your hat on something so
fantastical that we don't have any real hard evidence for.
And listen, I'm all for Christianity, I'm all for any religion,
but I'm moderation, moderation. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna

(40:00):
to be an extreme mist and because that, to me,
if you're a Christian and you're saying, well, it happened
in the Bible, that's that blah blah blah, then that's
pretty much the same as like radical Islam or anything,
because they're just like straight up believe it's one hundred
percent to the letter.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Yeah, no, one hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
And you will have people, not Charlie himself, he's obviously
a very religious person, but you have people who hold
the same views, who you know, interpret the Old Testament differently.
They don't, yeah, turn the other cheekway and they're.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Well, and so then you're wondering, like you're like, right,
if people are interpreted it this way, and then they're
trying to influence hundreds of thousands or millions of people
based on their interpretation. Is that even religious like you're
appropriate in a message and you're trying to put your
spin on it for your own game, and it's it's
an interesting thing. But like, to be honest, like all

(40:50):
of those talking heads like and that's kind of what
I was saying last week as well as like I
just don't have time for any of them. But as
soon as I as soon as I turn on any
people like that, I'm just like, oh, you're literally just
trying to tell me how to think, and I just
can't be hacking it. Like it's really transparent, And again
the people that are being target with, I actually like
to see the data on age demographics of people that

(41:11):
watch this content because like we know our age demographics
with this podcast, and our age demographic is very much
like our age, so it's all generally people around our pocket.
But then but all this shit on YouTube and all
these kids on TikTok and a lot of this like
stuff where it's going around the college campuses and debate
and like idalist kids who haven't even left home yet properly,

(41:36):
like they're still in their home ecosystem. They're yeah, they're
in college, but like they probably don't don't their own home.
They don't know's they're very naive. Like if you if
you were to talk to me when I was eddying
on a debate and then put me on fucking TV
and put me on TikTok and all this ship and
like it's just ridiculous. It's not fair, Like it's not,
it's not it's and it's like when you know, like

(41:58):
if you're if you're the bigger, the more, the older,
more mature person and you're coming in to just dunk
And this is not just Charlie, but Charlie just probably
asked to do that. There's there's, there's left. I've seen
a bunch of different ones. I've seen a bunch of
those videos, and some of them can be quite interesting.
But and actually a lot of time I'd agree with

(42:21):
the lads that are actually anti left. To be honest, Yeah,
there's there was a guy on there, like some kind
of billionaire fellow ones and they were debating with him,
and like, to be honest, most of the kids that
were debating with them, like we're very idealistic kids who
hadn't really experienced much of anything, and like I actually
got the capitalist viewpoints more because he was like, well, no,
he was like, I worked in a fucking shit shit shop,

(42:43):
Like I worked my way up, like I did what
you're saying is impossible to do. So like I was
able to understand him more than I was able to
understand someone who was saying, oh, it's impossible, you can
never make money, like you know, you're yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
You see, they're all being fed this stuff like that,
even that stuff we never had that what's this like
eighty percent to twenty percent and that the date an
algorithm and all that shit. I don't know if this
is true or not, but there's something to do with
like women are only selecting ten percent of the men
or swriping on ten percent of the men or whatever
the fuck like, And then people are hearing that, probably from.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
A young age when they're not on date apps.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
They're assuming exactly, yeah, but that's the same shit. This
is all being driven by algorithms. What's hardening is I
listened to a podcast recently where they said it looks
like people who are kind of in the college years
and actually stopping using good those they're going out like
jogging people and the old remember the old days of
weed people, which again weren't always ideally either a lot

(43:42):
of ways. But I think it's all of this stuff
and the I think the only way to stop is
just go outside a bit more like when you when
you're complaining about this stuff and that, yeah, exactly look
outside your window.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
But sure like not there.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
When I sit down to talk to someone, I'm not
trying to make them look stupid and make me look right. Okay,
So that's my main problem with a lot of this
content is it's all very combative. It's like, here's this
idiot versus a smart person, and it's on both sides.
There's always someone who has to be owned or something.
There's never really this intelligent dialogue where it's kind of reasonable,

(44:17):
but even it's always extreme and fucking stupid.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Like, but I've seen one of aren't owned.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
Like the title of the video is so, and I
watched the video and like that was like a reasonable conversation,
but the fellow who's like curating and waiting the video
is saying, oh, so look what he said there, blah blah,
And this is another lad who's probably been fucking brain rotted.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
But this is this is like all of this.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
Stuff on YouTube I think if you're going on YouTube,
you should only be allowed to look at trailers for
Draft Street.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
Fighters, Pokemon, old movies, Hop, Pokemon chair lists.

Speaker 4 (44:54):
You can only watch the Mojo Top ten lists, Mojo's
Top thirty, shark ecks only ship like that.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Grit Grit.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
It's it's just sad, really, that's I worry that. Like,
and I said this on last week's episode. The first
time I was introduced to Andrew type was probably like
I want to say, like twenty seventeen, twenty eighty maybe,
And it was truely your mom's house, and they were
watching him and laughing, and I thought like, and I
was watching him and laughing too a joke. I thought

(45:33):
he was in character, Like I thought he was a character. No,
I did, I thought he was.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
I thought he was.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
Doing like a skit, that he was playing this ultra
fucking shitty cunt like and I couldn't. But then and
most people did, like like top Sigoran is like they
were laughing, going like this is funny, but it's funny
until the end, and the people that are watching and
not picking up on, oh, this is a bit ludicrous.
Our kids and these kids are unfortunately from a very

(45:59):
young age have a fucking phone in front of their
fucking face to keep them fucking chill. And they're just
growing up with this under young adults, and they're thinking, right, okay,
well how do I feel about whether I want to
fail it?

Speaker 4 (46:13):
As well, they're not getting the experience of exactly how
many times have you maybe taught a certain thing about
a type of person, but then you meet that person realize, oh, look,
they're just a person like me.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
Have you ever seen the Enemies project on YouTube?

Speaker 2 (46:27):
I don't believe.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
So that's very good, I thought again last week I
was mentioned it. But basically he gets like people from
a pose and camp sitting opposite each other, like he
had a trans male to female with a maga mat
sitting opposite each other, and he does this whole thing
and he articulates, but the points to each other one

(46:49):
in case they're not picking up on it properly. And
then he also does this thing where like they have
to role play each other and sort of articulate why
they feel the way they feel. And in all the
ones I've seen so far, anyway, at the end of it,
they're like, oh, yeah, great, yeah, this is brilliant, Like like,
oh yeah, so like the the the woman was like

(47:11):
the magamat was like, I think an African national, super
like traditional religious like African ma and like at the
end of it, shure she was crying for the male
the female garland. She was like, oh no, like she
was like after talking to you, she was like, I
understand the hugged and she was like, look, I think
you're actually a really nice person, a brave person, and

(47:33):
that you know, you're you know, you're trying your best.
And they did another one with like a Hasidic Jew
and a Palestinian guy and it was the same kind
of thing where like like like actually at the end
of it, the Hasidic Jew was like he taught I
think different classes around and he actually agreed to The
Palestinian guy said at the end on his own, he said,

(47:54):
I'd like to just leave a message here for the
end of the video. Your man video of them, and
he said, I'm like, if whatever his name was, would
like to like if he'd let me talk sometimes at
one of the fastest I'd actually love to go and
chat with Jewish people, just have a talk. And so
your man picked them up on us. The Jewish guy
and he said, yeah, I'd love to do that. And

(48:14):
when he went to Orangeer sure they wouldn't let him,
like the school, like boards and all that. We're like, no,
it can't be happening.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
So yes, that's where it gets.

Speaker 4 (48:23):
Why would they stop that because they have a whole
agenda that they're trying to When you have just two
people will recognize that we have.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
More in common than we don't.

Speaker 4 (48:32):
We start getting three people in humans are a weird thing.
Three people get in then you're like, you start to
get divisive in some ways. The problem we have now
is we've forgotten that, like, most people feel the same
as you do to a certain extent. They might feel
differently about certain topics, but at their core, what they
want is the same as what you want. You know,

(48:56):
like a trans person who's legitimately feeling this way, they're like,
they just want to feel.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
What are you going to do? Like, yeah, exactly, like
what you want to do with someone that's walking trans
You're going to go like her don't feel like that,
Yeah exactly, just don't feel like that. But it's like
it's like saying like.

Speaker 4 (49:11):
People who are the breast are stupid, just fixing they
don't want to be just fixing.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Just yeah, but just have a cop stuff. Just don't
wear the makeup that you feel.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
You know, there was a lot of people would say that,
Like we're saying about people being influenced and stuff. A
lot of the more conservative people would say that a
lot of the trans people and stuff like that are
being influenced online from a very young age. I would say,
I would say that there's probably an element that, but
it's not but like there's an element of it. But
like even when we were sucking teenagers more motherfuckers like ours,
we're going to shifting each other and all that, and

(49:44):
they were experiment and that's teenagers, like you know what
I mean, But like they were never going to hang
your hat on their sexuality. But it's being a teenager.
There's an element of that that's always there, but that
was there more thansidious. Could you say that there are
people out there with an agenda that are trying to
to confuse teenagers like, oh, yeah, well you're actually trans,
Like that's why you're feeling that way is because you're

(50:06):
actually trans.

Speaker 4 (50:07):
I don't I don't know if there's an agenda, but
but there could be well no, I I So if
you follow the money, who stands to make the most
money out of the trans.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Black helicopters frogs gay.

Speaker 4 (50:22):
Well, it's the medical establishment, because now they're going to
be able to sell all these drugs, they're going to
be able to do all these surgeries, are going to
charge fucking.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
God knows what for them. I'm not saying that I
believe this.

Speaker 4 (50:31):
I'm just saying, like, if you wanted to be conspiratorial
about it, is there someone it's no different to this polarization.
This is driven in a large part by bots, or
was started in some ways by bots.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
It sounds my conspiratorial, but like no one really wants
to talk about like how and where and why this
has all happened. And personally, I think it's like a
mix of things. I think one of the things is
just a general destabilization by probably rival nations that are
just attacking the West and kind of the view of
the West. And also then I think there's a lot

(51:08):
of content creators who are probably being funded either directly
or indirectly indirectly by that engine, by that machine. And
I don't know whether they know or whether they don't know,
But what I do know is if you talk mad shit,
and if you talk mad shit about like the government,
the ship or blah blah blah, like you're going to

(51:29):
make a decent fuel, bob, and if you put your
neck ondline and you're willing to do it, like.

Speaker 4 (51:34):
I know that the government are there's talk. I don't
know that they'll do and I hope to god they
don't because it's the start the civil war possibly is
like let's go. You know, they're talking about like like
trying to shut down any sort of dissidence in America
and all this sort of stuff, and that's really dangerous,

(51:57):
especially when you like on the one side. One side
like the left for example, and again elements of the left,
the whole left are saying words are violence, Like words
aren't violence, and words shouldn't be unless they're incitement to violence.
They shouldn't be combat. That's insanity, right. But on the
right then they're saying like, look a look at the

(52:18):
left are doing all this. They're responsible for all this,
like left aron responsible for all this, and there's like
here's the thing, So you've been having these fucking gun
crimes for decades now, you've done nothing to solve the situation,
and it's not going to get any better, and in fact,
it's gonna get worse and worse and worse.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
What is there like a school shoot in a week?
Like I don't know, like all this stuff. I think
the West.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
Like look, I personally think like we're in like the
atrophy phase of just like oh we're yeah, like it's
all just I think we're all just rotten out of it,
and I don't think there's anything that anyone can do
to fix it. I actually think that like if you
look at like the China and all their like building
they're building fucking bridges over mountains and ship or whatever
they're doing, and they're like actually like building mega cities

(53:05):
in like fucking ten years, and we're like arguing about
who can he was a bathroom manner shooting motherfuckers off?
Yeah yeah, And it's like and it's like we're they're
they're fuck they're fucking Shy're like you know, yeah, no,
you're China, Like yeah, that's class. Like I'm just gonna

(53:26):
bore a hole from a mountains.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Diver the river China cut off.

Speaker 4 (53:30):
And I thought like China are like they're the worst.
But the more I'm looking at Actually, actually maybe we
need a bit of authoritarianism credit store.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
My Look, the thing that's evident to me is people
wants to be told what they think. That's that's my
big take away from all this fucking ship is like
people fucking love being told they think. And they're mad
horny for going on their fucking tiktoks, going under YouTube shorts.
They're fucking consuming his brain, Rotchet. All these motherfuckers have
no like has Sam Piker. He's one of the biggest

(54:04):
left wing fucking commentators. He just sits in his bedroo
while they're talking, like.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
A glad who's always winging about asthmon Gold.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Yeah, but he's just it his bedroom talking ship like
and he talks mad ship like and he's but but
like that's all he's doing. Like so he wakes up
right from him and like he probably goes in text
ship wipes his hours. I'm just going to sit on
the computer.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Her talk mad device of bullshit is up stuff? Is
he like he's like this fella is the worst.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's all like it's just kind
of drama like and then you have him playing that
like a fucking tweaker, fucking cracking up, going mad.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
He turned like twenty to four.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
Tree is just like a fucking He's like someone you
say on schedule, just.

Speaker 4 (54:46):
Like those things where like there in the machine and
they started as like a podcast, so in order to
keep yeah, because he's he's going, I've seen him go
Banana is like.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
I said last week, there was a time where I
was watching him and I was like, this motherfucker has
the potential to be one another funniest fucker's on YouTube.
And it's actually really like promising potentially hilarious. Like if
you watch some of his early videos and then you
just like splice that with like him shouting at the
screen now looking cracked out of them, you're like, what

(55:23):
she was? She's in the idea and saw Hassan then
does going on her. But they had a podcast like
Hasan and Fell two years.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
They were happy out they got politically it's.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
Like yeah, and that was and that you know what
that was actually not and I never bothered listening to it,
but that was nice that Like you had Hassan, who
I think is like he's definitely Middle Eastern heritage, and
then you have Ethan Klein who's a jew. So it
was nice that you had to too large from kind
of a pause and Camps have a podcast together and
they got on.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Well yeah, of course that.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
All went to ship. But like, but I watched all
of these guys see clips of all these motherfuckers, and
just like I have the opposite effect, Like they're the
algorithms giving you this stuff to try and go like
pick aside, like I just want to get all over
it and just got like like I watched watched it
for the other again, this is some other fucking dickhead

(56:15):
from Ireland, some cock balls who again is trying to
divide people and he's going on about the left on
YouTube and this that not but like he went up
to see or some some lad lives in fucking Mayo
somewhere and he has self sufficiencies a prepper. But I
was watching him and I was going, I have more
in common with.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Understand alone and being sufficient. I don't care.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
I don't care, like do you know what I mean?
And that's the thing is, like you want to have
a nice conversation about these things about people are getting
stupid and it doesn't ever have to turn nasty, and.

Speaker 4 (56:52):
The big problem as well, is a lot of these videos,
because you have these ones where they're divisive and their shouting,
then a lot of theme it's just a lad talking
by himself and there's no there's no there's no person
will actually you're wrong about that. Like one of the
things I was really surprised about is when I think
it was like Stephen King was like looking, never mind Charlie,

(57:13):
he said stone gaze and then he was like, oh, sorry,
actually he never said that.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
But then everyone's jumping on him like you can't first
of all, as you can't be saying stone the gaze.
That's that's insanity. It's just such a fucking stupid thing
to say. And the same people, and this is where
I think is really funny. The same people who are
like fucking.

Speaker 4 (57:31):
Charlie spoke in mind blah blah blah, and there's a
little bit of overlap with highly religious stuff, are the
same lads that are out there fucking marching around talking
about Sharia.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
And you're kind of going, if you listen close, there's
some serious elements. What are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (57:51):
It's like, I think, to be honest, I think one
of the main things that people would be taken from
the old Good Book is love like a message of
love and the message of compassion and empathy. I think
that's why you should be taken from the Bible. I
don't think you should be taken like, let's divide everyone
best on this book. I think that's exactly the albums actually, Angela.

(58:11):
If you approach up with that mindset, you're probably more
likely to just divide people further. Like you like, you're
actually probably doing more damage to Christianity as a whole
by trying to do that, Dan Sean love Seawan repetition.

Speaker 4 (58:25):
You know, you know, ironically, not even ironically, but I
think what you're you're best off to do is just
be kind to the people around you or the people
you meet.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
Of course, try just try to be kind.

Speaker 4 (58:35):
And funnily enough, most people you meet, the vast majority
of people meet are kind.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
They'll they'll help each other out.

Speaker 4 (58:42):
So, like, I'll tell you one thing, we were so
at the end of Brazil. We got stuck in an
elevator for fifty minutes. It was not great, It was
not ideal, right, we were It wasn't like super hilp.
It doesn't really were, but it was and I was
an older English couple, right, who would have been retired.

(59:06):
And if this had been I don't know, fifty sixty
years ago, you may have had like, here's a little
red haired Irish lads stuck in an elevator with English people.
There's the troubles in Northern Ireland and blah blah. And
what you realize is like, when you're just four people
sung elevator, you talk. I kind of said, listen, lads,
I work in industries like this.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
It should be a quick thing. Don't worry.

Speaker 4 (59:28):
You know, you're trying to, like just because I know
if my math was stuck in an elevator, she would free.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
She'd be like a rat cage lift.

Speaker 4 (59:37):
Yeah, So like you're saying that, and then Paula's obviously
you can speak Portuguese so she can hear the lad
the technicians, Oh they're saying this, you know, and then
the elderly couple of really nice people and they're just going,
oh blah blah, and you're just chatting here. And then
there's elements where you're quite because you're there for forty
minutes and it's a very small elevator, so there's periods
where you're a bit.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
Quiet, did you take away? I didn't do a weeepoo,
but I did.

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
Thinking to myself, I was like, what if one of
us needed to do that, Like it would just be
I'm really sorry about this, proper ship pads. But the
thing is like there was elements where it was quiet.
We had quick a little bit of a chat with
each other, but ultimately there's four people that were like, right,

(01:00:21):
we got to just keep each other calm. No one
freak out. We're gonna get out of this. It'll be grand.
They're sending the fell across. No, but it's uncomfortable, but
it'll be fine. And we had like a plane to
catch as well, So for us, the time is taking
it and I could see stress, you know, getting edgy.
Then when we eventually got out of the elevator the

(01:00:41):
forty or fifty minutes later, port like, the hotel manager
was like, I'm so sorry, and I was like, we've a.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Flight to catch.

Speaker 4 (01:00:49):
I was just like, you would get a bit of
toast there and chi well. I just said to the guy,
I was like, look, this isn't your fault, mate, don't no.
We had eleven year old Bill from just getting a
couple of glasses of wine one night that we could
they have given us those for free. That would have
been a nice thing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
We still paid.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
See you were white also then you would to crack
like this, which life change this money so like like
a fucking bag of money.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
This is in Portugal of the boys. This is over
in Portugal, Cash, Ci you don't like Portuguese.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
I do, but they left you on the lift and
I didn't mean to see Now this is division showing division.
Sorry Portugal Spain. I'm more of a that's look to
pick one or the other, like you know what I mean,
I'd be you don't have to pick one or the other.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
They're both code.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
But if I didn't have to pick Spain, spend for me,
do you know what I mean? Either place? Spain has
a nice Catalonia does.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
Yeah, oh man, the water in Portugal is colder than
the water in Ireland Atlantic.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Yeah. What you put your tone in.

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
And you go even then, like you know, you see
those nice beaches, Cash.

Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
It's beautiful beach and freezing freezing because it's it's it's
just you're in like you're in thirty three degrees of
heat and you're like better cool down and as soon
as you put your toe in, you're just like blue.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
But I was man my tail, body of the night Walker,
the day Walker.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
Any like flukes, swim in your ears or anything when
you're there.

Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
No, I couldn't stay under the water long because my
brain would get cold. It's seriously, seriously like freezing water.
And I think it's because it looks so beautiful and Mediterranean.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
You're like, oh wow, this is so nice. It's it's
cold Atlantic. Yeah, yeah, there was one.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
What about the other side, Like there's two sides there,
so if you on the other side warmer.

Speaker 4 (01:02:58):
Albif era, that was ice as well. Portugal Brazil, Oh no,
Brazil is always you stop. Water in Brazil is like
getting getting your.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Whole body getting yeah, yeah, no, it's Portugal Brazil.

Speaker 4 (01:03:16):
Even in a like the lagoons obviously are warm because
they're just lagoons, so there's no flowing water.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
But yeah, it was.

Speaker 4 (01:03:24):
It's lovely to have your own. There was a lagoon
in a one stade, your own lagoon. So the man
brought us down and you're just like you basically just
it's like, what was that band in this.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
Anyway reminded me of them.

Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
And so I just sat there looking at the galloon
go and dip the toe. It was like you weren't
even entering the water.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
It's just like you were.

Speaker 4 (01:03:53):
You're the buoyancy had changed and now you were Now
you were dicing with death in the water.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
It was very beautiful. So porticle has cold water. If
you take anything anything from this from this episode, Portugal
cold water, Brazil warm water.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
Yeah, that's why the Portugal is probably colonized Brazil.

Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
They just like water is too cold and water's class water.
And then the same lass brought a few Africans as well,
like water down there was fairly good.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
A bit more dangerous. And I heard here's a good
one anyone who.

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
Likes shark lore of our listeners.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
So REI is like, no, it's Brazil. There is a
reci probably is yeah, it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:41):
Could be named after Portugal. I can neither confirm nor
deny that. But there's there's like the government make videos
for not swimming in the waters and recif because the
sharks will get you loads of bull sharks.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
And I just thought like that this was just a
thing that happened. But apparently when.

Speaker 4 (01:04:58):
They were doing urban planning, they were doing various things
and they cut off an estuary.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
But this estuary was where bull sharks used to.

Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
Breathe and mace and not lay eggs obviously, but like
get the little bull sharks going.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
Because that was cut off.

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
They had to then move around and they went into
an area that's fame, that was famous for surfing. And
now after that, like receiv he is just a wash
with shark attacks.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
Literally, Like now you say eggs obviously not eggs, but
then dogfish lat eggs, don't.

Speaker 4 (01:05:29):
They actually, yeah, because sharks are fish as well, but
I know that's the.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
Gray all fish like some fit I don't like sharks, yeah,
sharks like, but dogfish are the type of shark and
dogfish like what's called mother's parson Marmat's purses on the beach.
You find them on the beach is here. They're like
a little black translucent almost look like some offmorph and

(01:05:56):
they've got little prongs on each end. That's what a
dogfish egg is in or an egg memory is like
a pouch pouch.

Speaker 4 (01:06:04):
Thing like with the great with the great white sharks,
they have like introuter and cannibalism.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
So if there's like three puppies about the man.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
They eat each other.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
And so it's almost like born as an already like
pretty impressive editor.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
I learned, yes, actually that you know Amanda Safe Actually
her name on Instagram is Minji, which I enjoyed Amanda.

Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
And she's just like she's just like the word. Watched
that episode. It is a great word. We actually got
chast that one time. She was not in the podcast.
You get you must have got it that you would
say on the podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
So it wasn't safety butt and that's araras. So yeah,
I believe it there for many f uns.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
Yeah, yeah, and rest in pace, Charlie Hark, Yeah, yeah,
don't people shooting everybody. He's sound to each other.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
Hope his family are well looked after and the kids
and all that, and you know, it's it's tough. Like
look at the end of the day, like if you're
if you're listen, that Felts acting with his best intention.
I hope, and I hope that he's speaking his truth
and that he's not there's no sinister motive. And I
hope that that was what he thought he was doing,

(01:07:36):
when he thought he was spreading a good message for
his people, I guess. And he died doing that. Which
is never a good thing. I mean, if you're like
I think, to be honest, you should be able to
articulate your thoughts like that and not get shot.

Speaker 4 (01:07:48):
Well, it's the point is that in the marketplace of
ideas that yeah, make the most sense should rise.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
As he got shot. There was a really good interview
with your man, Andrew Callahan.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
Yeah, we can't reference him anymore. Apparently he's a bit
of an or wordist.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
I thought he got like alleged that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
I think there was a couple allegedly. I think there's
a few more allegedly falling around.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
In the alleged even but he's like a reasonable guy,
that cool like this. But so then anyone who's like
that is just a groper.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
A marketplace of allegedly.

Speaker 4 (01:08:24):
Man, you just can't win. Even the other fellow rinks
seems that important. And I can't really believe because the
alleged already it's like it's funny, like, yeah, all the
all the people speaking sense, they're also.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
Yeah, that was interesting that Rogin clip where a little
rink still up for himself against big one.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
Little rink has nothing left.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
That was like fucking an embarrassment. If I was and
I watched back on that I would call may I
came across like some fucking little Oh no, he did that,
like he literally did that thing when he goes like me, memo,
someone's talking when you lost.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
But oh my, that makes fund and you're so easy
to make. I was like Jesus Christ. But it does,
like imagine being in your face.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
It was ugly, watching, ugly, listening ugly, all right, but
then you have the other lad like just writing job
just like especially it's in the corner with.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
Hair bleached let me go, Joe never let me go.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
Shop bleach pland hair over in the corner like some
kind of lunatic it is. It is funny, like it's
a parody is Tasman.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
Who everything all of life? I love all of life.
I love it, Scrat. I feel like we're you another mber,
just like, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
It's a circus.

Speaker 4 (01:09:50):
But that's actually that's actually where we're going. Sorry, thirty
one Atlas.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
It's going to be here, like November is November this year,
November next year. That's the start destroyer?

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
Like it would be real cool if a couple of
aliens were just like lads. Here's what we're gonna do
and just be sound, just be sound sound to everybody.
I think the aliens would just go, yeah, this experiment
has gone off track. It's time to wipe it out
and start again.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
Yeah, I'm down. I'm down. I mean, look sometimes you'll
just back up me a fell up. Yeah, I think
I'm going to retreat to the country sound though.

Speaker 4 (01:10:27):
I think I I'd like to find a way to
be self sufficient, to just be left alone.

Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
Yeah, that's that's what That's what I'm saying. I watched
them Preppers, and I'm like, actually, it's not like I'm
like a.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
Prepper, like are probably on the internet and awful.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
Because they're all going about like Andy Vack's all that
sh it like, But like I I can do the
Prepper stuff minus all of that unhinged kind of more
fringe thinking. So yeah, like let's do that. But yeah,
should look with leave there Fox. You know, this one
was just a kind of getting back to it chatting
would say, you know where you know.

Speaker 4 (01:11:03):
And there's lots of man, there's just lots of magic
going on. Just watch what you're taking on.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
Yeah, just please because they'll try to man like he
gets it all, Like I had on Instagram that I
had to like literally click the little three buttons off
the topcorn. I don't want any of this crack started.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
To do like I got like, no, I only have tits.

Speaker 4 (01:11:26):
Like political perspectives because I've never done the three buttons.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
I mean, like, no, tit's for me that open. Yeah,
that was a nice little like there was anything to.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
Discover, fave And you're like, oh, look at this. It's
a nice little you know, little East egg for your browsing,
you know what I mean. But man, man, listen, alum,
listen to fucking las no Sleep or something. He's still
cracking on sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
I don't even know. There's a podcast call I can't
remember the name of it, but they do two stories
every day, so the lads right, story after story after story,
the lads beauty and friends. That's true, That's very true.
I listened to an interview with him, was it They
were like oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:12:10):
And then I started thinking about because like at this point,
it's just everything, yeah, everything burned out like yeah, and
one of lads.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
Did as you said.

Speaker 4 (01:12:17):
I was like, oh yeah, I just had to stop
writing stories, so I have no tired I have left.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
To talk about I have no stories, but yeah, that's
a good that's a good point. A lot of people
are commenting online that their favorite podcasts are going dushed
in terms of like they're just the shutting up shop.
And I'll tell you why they're shot up shop is
because there was basically an artificial podcast economy created by
likes of Amazon and Wondering and all of these fucking

(01:12:44):
shy and what they were doing was they come in
they were like, we can make lots of money out
the podcast. Let's hire all these podcasts in an unsustainable fashion,
like a podcast, all these podcasts. Then they go, oh,
we can't make content anymore. There's no money. It's like,
shouldn't have that, shouldn't have ever been a problem. You
can make a podcast without any money. So this whole

(01:13:04):
like it's not viable anymore. It's like it doesn't really
sit well with me.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
A free thing to me.

Speaker 4 (01:13:10):
Yeah, just that, like the because we're in the top
one percent.

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
Yeah yeah geniuses.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Yeah, but again you would hear you hear like, oh
the top of the boys must be rich. We're literally mad.

Speaker 4 (01:13:22):
We're making half we're making less than half minimum between us.

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
But that's because the rug pull happened to ad apocalypse.
We we came in at the fall of Rome. It
was it was done. But Amazon, all these companies, they're
credited fake economy, where you know, oh, it's great past podcast,
work loads of money, blah blah blah. And so that's
why you're seeing all these podcasts going. So what I

(01:13:47):
was going to get is head on over to Patreon
support independent podcast. It doesn't have to be us. It
can be anyone that you listen to that's independent and
you like what they do. It's what you podcast alive.
Do you know what I mean? So if you're intome,
hell on over and do it. We will leave it there.
I've been robbed. Monster falls over now

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