Mini Fuzz: The Wisest Minds

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Well, little crypt and this is a script. I want
a quick against my enemies. Yeah, you see you wanted
to say you and then allone little raison, but Apple
get you from the wilderness.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Hello everyone, what is up? I am Rob It is
a mini fil Samen. How do you going?

Speaker 1 (00:33):
And very well?

Speaker 2 (00:33):
How are you good? Morgan's bard of stuff. Today we've
got like we're just shutting from the hip. But there's
a lot of things to talk about, I think, so
we we'll touch that on a few bases. Is anything
the gem? Do you have a good weekend?

Speaker 1 (00:46):
I had a good Weekend's very standard weekend, A nice
pleasant weekend? Standard is standard weekend. Yeah, as I said
to you, my old cat, who's about seventy in human years,
has taken to pissing, both erratically and annoyingly. So he's
he's he's just dropping bombs. When he first moved in

(01:07):
with this, the burgers were a problem, but now the
burgers are less of a problem, and the Mountain Jews
becoming more of a problem.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
There's not worse than the fucking capiss as well.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
And it's just that musky like there is it a
hormone that gets trapped so like trying to get rid
of the smell. It's super hard. So basically, I think
I'm not sure what his stories. Basically came up to
us in the middle of the night, like three in
the morning, we were about to sleep. You jump the bed.
He'd usually do that, like you know, and have a
sleep with this and then like I was like, oh,
should go black, And I just moved and I wouldn't mind.

(01:39):
But the little fucker he had pissed on the bed
and then it had come up to me and curled
into me him fell asleep in my arms, and I
moved my leg and I just went really as I said, Okay,
So I got up anyway, and I thought maybe this
maybe he just drooled. There's maybe this is an unrelated issue,
but it was not. Something fell off to get up then,

(02:00):
and you know, obviously put everything away, sausage. He's downstairs.
So he went into the spare room anyway, slept there.
The next night in the morning, we were both awake
and he comes up the stairs. No joke. He runs
up the stairs right the light of himself. A seventy
year old cat who can barely were on, but when
he wants to move, he can move and without doing that,

(02:20):
and without jumping up without me, just goes into the
corner room where my bag is and sits on it.
There's another piece. What the fuck?

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Man?

Speaker 1 (02:30):
So yeah, he's relegated now to one room with three
litter boxes. I shudder to think what my house is
going to be like. When we were gone into Brazil pissouse, well,
we basically were paying someone to come up and it's.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Probably like an orban welch, yeah, because.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Of the amount of ammonia in the air.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
No man, cats, Uh, he could have a beauty, you
know he could.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
But we're doing all the tests and like he was
fine last week. He I think he's just a bottock
for I don't think it's a UTIs like yeah, and now,
to be fair, the one good thing about him pissing
on the bag was I was able to collect a
sample of his piss, which I needed to bring to
the men anyway, just to get checked. So that was
that was sent in earlier. Today.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Maybe I'll come back and say, Cheeko's out, I brother,
here's the medicine, and then we'll have a chic.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
I'd say they'll go that pisce is grandson. Your cats
just a bollocks. He's a lovable ballocks, but sure, look
he's a bollocks. Like, you know, did he pissed your
own apartment up in Dublin coming to the Yeah, because
se he would usually come in and go out, but
there was definitely a few times where you'd get like
a whiff and you'd be like, he definitely pissed here
or something, but you can't find where, you know, because

(03:45):
it was an aged piece.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
That bastard Chaco.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
He's a good cat, but he's a bold boy, but
a very good boy.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yeah. I hope I's doing well, having a good there.
We'd like to remind everyone to check us out on Petreon.
You gets rested to episodes. Will probably record on those
this weekend. We've got like fucking you know, sixty something
of them probably over there by now, and you got
access to a discording on that as well. Our word
gaming discord is going well. You know, it's the first
competition there. I found out I'm best at word when

(04:16):
I wake up first in the morning. I don't really
have a particular strategy. I use a different word to
start with every time, right, just best on the vibes
in the morning.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Any words that kind of come to mind in the morning.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Claim is good. I like claim, claim I use sometimes
like what else if I used, I just claim I use.
I'm trying to think now of what I use today.
I can't remember. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Like the more fouls I guess, yeah, to the words,
the easier it will be to identifying. Alright, alright, yeah, alright,
you could.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Use I rate.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
You're using Pubes pubes. Actually, penis is pretty good. Vagina
has two of those and.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
It's too many, too many words letters?

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Oh how many? You can only six?

Speaker 2 (05:06):
I think.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Vagina pen aisle.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Many.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Maybe just look for a six letter word with the
most vows and then that should as a ten place.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Mm hmm, yeah maybe, but yeah, head on over check
it out, guys. We're also seven for a camera so
that we can, you know, show off for sexy bods
again to the world. We had Declan who took about
pictures that time. He was actually chatting with me about
some kind of recommendations on have to get it set
up once the stuff comes in very good, so that

(05:43):
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who has supported us on coffee and Patreon. You know
who you are, very nice, he is. And yeah, yeah,

(06:04):
if you've got any spooky stories, which like, have you
forgotten how to write in? I wants to crack like
right in for fox sake. We want to hear from you.
Where should I send that in?

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Well, if that has a sturred you into action, send
you just right the Monster Fuzz podcast at gmail dot com.
I have not writ in since fucking March, since the junction.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Idn't remember last night, Jesus, because.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
We're creating the content. They've just gotten very lazy, apathetic.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
That we want to hear from you better.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
And now Rob's protest is that he's not He's going
to say, now we're off the hip, but then sure
they like it when we go off the hip.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
So we're trapped in the sort of sort of the
parge tree of our own design them and where our
are sort.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Of unbridled and unhinged minds and our like sort of
half arsedness.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
That's kind of worked both of which has always been
the case. It was like me and schools, you know, like,
you know, I was getting feedback by being fallny in school,
so I was making people laugh and then I was
happy at that. I was like, I'm making people laugh,
people are having cracked but I wasn't doing anything academic.
So I was sitting in class gone like I'm not

(07:18):
learning anything here and the teachers are pend hole. But
then I'm getting laughs, I'm get feedback off. It's like
it's basically like a modern version of me in schools.
What's going on?

Speaker 1 (07:30):
I read some of the the auto generated chapters from
AI on Spotify on our last episode, and like fighting
Joy and Cheese Friends and Feline Companions. You go from
navigating Addiction not dougs an expensive travel right, and then
you get into like unpacking the Drake equation and space

(07:52):
hyper focus, so you feel like you're gonna get into something.
But then the next one is from Whiskey Tasting to
Parandoise skisophreatic comedy. That's three and a half minutes from
the previous.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
One, right.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
From UAP Sightings to Europa's Oceans and pop Culture, summarizing
drinks equation and reviewing Jurassic Para eight minutes later.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
That's such a ban though, you know, ridiculousness, that's all hilarious.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
It's hilarious strategies for alien concealment and Genghis Khan's rifle.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Actually I was listening back to that was called overtime
Bookings can or a bit of that stuff. Yeah, look,
it is what it is. You know, we're a modern
deck contemporary podcast. You know, we have to diversify or
portfolio and before the robots get us all, we have
to yea more a lot of podcasts about AI. Yeah,
you just have to be you know, you have to
be authentic. AI is kind of so we're in an

(08:54):
era now of like where it's just boring because like
so many people are talking.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
About saying is something going to happen, and then nothing
keeps happening.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
It's like everyone's talking about it, you know, and you're like, okay,
you know, like we get to crack like but then
also it's one of those things where it's just going
to become a big with us real quick. So like
we're we're almost at that point.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
I would say where there's there's a really interesting thing
where like people are talking about how so we we
talk about the new Alien TV show in a minute, right,
But one of the things that Alien and RoboCop did,
which seems to be coming to fruition, which is really
fucked up. It's neither robo RoboCop or Aliens, even though

(09:35):
they're both things that are probably on the periphery with
UAPs and AI you and all the rest of it,
corp what would you call them corporate tocracies? I guess, like,
so basically we're getting to a point now where it
seems like big business would sort of run politics and yeah,
are well, they definitely influence them, but then they would

(09:57):
actually take over. So for example, in Alien, you have
was a whaling utahny and they basically govern. And in
RoboCop it's another like corporatized.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Like on Mega City on Lego.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
City one, and all that's is that the judge dread,
But basically that's what's that kind of idea, you know,
And it seems like we could be moving towards And
I've listened to some podcasts talking about how Elon Musk
and some other rich tech bros. We're talking about, okay,
like we're better off governing than the government.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Well they're they're like, there's the potential of a usurping
without any guns, without any weapons, without burning anything, Like
there's a potential of that happening, And some might say
that it's already happened, and that like you're you're being
more influenced in your death to life more than you
ever have by any government, by tech companies, like like

(10:51):
they're more, they're more intertwined in your life. They have
more data on your more dart likes to Google, for example,
Like we we've all given Google saw much on us,
Like Google has so much. It has your starchs history,
it has like your biometrics if you let it. It
has your preferences, it has what you're into, your shopping details,
where you live, you know your credit cards, everything, listery, everything,

(11:15):
And who's to stop like either a Google turning rog
or be another company buying Google Anteka and they had
rog interests.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
So marketing the whole idea with you know, you have
that eighteen to thirty five demographic and saying you have
always all those different demographics and the one that's most
profitable I suppose is you're eighteen to thirty five. But like,
what what the likes of Google and Tech are able
to do now is create what marketing I've always wanted,
which is a market of one, so effectively you would

(11:46):
be able to cater specifically to you or me. And
it's a bit janky right now, or has been a
bit yanky for a while. Like if you buy a
lawnmore and you've looked up law and more and it
keeps trying to sell you a lot, like that's fucking dumb.
But I think the algorith them is getting better and
more wise to all that, so like as it goes on,
you could potentially create a thing. And to a certain extent,

(12:08):
it's probably happening now where you'll just see something on
your phone, not really realize it's being catered to you,
and then just deadly. I don't know, I actually wanted
to buy.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
That that happens, and I've bought things off that like,
but that even even that in itself is old tech
at this stage.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Like that kind of stuff just getting better and better.
I suppose like that was happening yeah a long time ago. Yeah, yeah, No,
it's interesting. It's kind of scary. Marana a fun frontier.
But yet Aliens actually does touch on quite well the
TV shows.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
So for the way, yeah, it's and it's like it's you, Tanny,
It's not there hasn't been the merger or whatever at
this point.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, so we're talking about Alien Artist. It's in your
TV show on f X. I believe obviously if you've
listening to this podcast for any amount of time, did
not have main Emina into the Alien franchise is something
that were we both equally like I would and yeah
new TV show dropped going into it. I was kind
of like, I was like, I was sort of indifferent

(13:09):
because I think I was a bit.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Like Aliens burned you a few times.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Well, like it's not even that, because I liked the
Light latest movie. I was just kind of like, is
there any need for it? Like is it going to
be good? How are they going to handle it? Like
what we were going to execute it? But then after
watching the first two episodes, I think it's going to
be good.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
I think, yeah, I like, I really like the ideas
they're going in with the synths and the hybrids and
all that sort of stuff. It's a good way to
drive it. It has little sort of elements that are
reflective of society as it is now like your man
the child's genius or whatever, and he's like, I just
want someone who I can have a conversation with, because
you're all fucking dumb, you know, massive egos and all

(13:47):
that looks really well, looks really like, it's shot really well.
That I like the new alien designs for the new things,
especially the eyeball squid, which is fucking disgusting. But no,
I think as in so far as an alien TV
show could go, it's hit the ground running really well.

(14:08):
I would say, fade back. Yeah, I can't imagine it
being much better than what it is. I quite I
quite liked it. I thought the two episodes were great. Yes,
so I'm here for you know.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yeah, No, on the concerns I have is that one
it oversays it's welcome and like, yeah, it goes on
for what too lang and too. I was going to
say that, like, you could probably make a really good
alien TV show, like a six part thing that was
basically a protracted movie kind of thing. Yeah, but like, yeah,
I hope it's going to be good. Like I'm apprehensive

(14:41):
at the minute because I'm like, yeah, softire, it's good,
but because it's in this like science fiction setting. I
think it could wildly veer off in a direction that
people don't like.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
That's that's the thing with sci fi and when you
think about Alien in and of itself, Yeah, they're effectively
survival horror movie with a sci fi twist, so they
don't really get like there is obviously the practically invented
that sort of digital analog futuristic look, which I think
was probably done by mistake and retrofuturism. Yeah, which again

(15:15):
it looks it's really it's a really cool but like, yeah,
to your point, it sort of needs to say, and
the confines of anything. When they try to get a
little bit too philosophical, they tend to sound dumb. I
think that's why Covenant and Prometheus and very popular alien movies,
because like it's a really cool idea to just kind

(15:36):
of go, oh, yeah, and we were seated and blah
blah blah. But in terms of a narrative structure, that
ball was just it just wasn't a concise good story.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Sometimes less as more as well, like just leaving.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
It's the reason that you know, no one really wants
to know why the joker is the joker. It's like
it's really interesting to not know or even that the
Dark Knight where heat Ledger keeps given different reasons, so
he's like unreliable narrator, Like that's really interesting, whereas if
you're like, oh, yeah, I know you fell in the
outam acid like, it takes all the mistique.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Out of it. Yeah, it's a bit ship as well,
like ship like. That's that's the thing that may explained
the more roomors for people to go. I don't like that.
But usually with all these things, with the sci fi
stuff in the TV shows like it, what's called the
care of test care is into the very much middle
of the old TV, in the middle of all all
that stuff. And she liked it. She actually asked me

(16:28):
that when's the next one? I would so that means
she's into it. No, I really liked that. I thought
your one was going the Saint one that looks like Emily.
She's quite too.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah, she does.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Look I was like, this, this is Emily. I like
the way they do that.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Again without giving any big spoilers away, but it's it's
an interesting way it is of kind of communicating that
relationship between her and the other main let's say, like
the reasoning behind it you kind of go, oh, that's
the mans out of the nonsense black.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
I only noticed that the other day, and that made
character because like when you're watching him, you're like, as
poor fucker's he's a bit like, you know, he he's
a little bit vulnerable or whatever, and obviously a smart
guy who's stuck trying to work back is dead or
whatever to you, Tanny. And then as you said, I
just noticed it and I was like, oh no, no,

(17:16):
just a smell of fighting anymore. I don't feel good
about this at all. Once cast is a non.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Always type cast is the worst type of type cast there.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Brother, Do you ever watch the movie I think it's
called The Woodsman with Kevin Bacon. I think it was
a play originally, but it's basically like it's like a
sympathetic view of a recovered played by Kevin Bacon.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
I wouldn't take that role like that.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
No, but Kevin Bacon seems to be doing you know,
he's pretty consistent now the acting and all like, it's
done very well. But it's it's it's dark as fuck.
You won't be feeling good about yourself watching it. And
I think like the last scene is there's a girl
sitting on his lap and he's like you can see him.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Directions like no erection, you know, no, And.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
She mentioned something about what her uncle or died or
something like that, and it doesn't say anything blatant, but
it alludes to this porc is getting abused, and at
the end of it, he sort of while he's about
to act on this terrible urge, then sort of goes
it's is fucking wrong. It's like, and it's shown kind
of how he gets there.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
It's a interesting I watched it once.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
I probably wouldn't watch it again. It's it's a yeah,
but he's the only guy I know who kind of
he played that role, and I don't know his pr
team buried or whatever. It's to take.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
It's a bizarre deck I've seen online before, Like people
said on Reddit and stuff like the kind of almost
speak contrarian and like it is true, but it's also like,
is that ever hit you really want to die on?
Like people will aways argue for like, well, you know,
pedophiles are born pedophiles, Like they don't choose kids.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Well that's what people say a sexual orientation.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
I'm sure, No, it is but I'm sure and I'm
sure lots of sexual orientations are born out of environmental
and traumatic and all, you know, and not that they're
the only things, but like, yeah, they have to. But
the reality is, like, whether it's an orientation or this
or that. You can say the same thing about serial
killers and rape and any.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Horrible choice to act on whatever.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Potentially, I don't know if it's a choice to act
on it fully to the same extent as you would
say what a regular choice is. But the issue is
that there's people who are highly innocent and vulnerable on
the receiving end of that. So you have to put
something in play. You can be you can you can
be sort of empathetic, because I'm sure if you could
give someone an objective choice and go, yeah, we can

(19:49):
just turn off, they'd be like, yeah, fucking same. I
would imagine with serial killers if you could just turn
it off and just be normal, they would probably choose
to be something.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
But then probably well then true, some of them refuse
the therapy mad constantly.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah, and then then again, is that a choice or
is that just the thing you're born with your environment
shape like copaty psychopathy. But you do have to protect
the people from these minority the fear would be imagine
that because that's it's it's a very small elements of
society that are serial killers. Are that that are this
transgressing right? Imagine that was flipped. So imagine now you

(20:26):
have ninety five percent of society that are serial killers
and then you got five percent that are like compassion compassionate, Yeah,
which is kind of a scary thought, which have.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Become shout and alien. That was announce That was more
evil alien, just bringing like this kid. Like, no, I
think the show to get back to it.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Let's I wonder what I wonder what ai all?

Speaker 2 (20:55):
I want to talk about this parts from However, however.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Fella on Spotify, he's like he thinks he's like mad
into the IDEAOG he just has he got like loads
of this. He almost to start that's what.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah, No, look it was very god like. I don't
really have many cons I wasn't mad on the eyeball Monster.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah it is, it is. I thought it was the
funnest of the new monster. But I know what you mean,
does it fit in the world.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
If they explain it, like if it's some kind of
genetically altered human bit, then that makes sense. But if
it's just a random alien that looks like.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
That about I think there's something sort of a paracise
because you could see it with the cat and something
goat as well. I think there's something there. I do
sometimes enjoy the fact that they don't really explain it,
but there's hints there as to why. But also like,
take all that stuff out of it. It's because it's
a walking eye. All the people go, yeah, that's probably

(22:02):
why it's an eyeball.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
I think it looked a bit silly.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
It did look a bit silly, and the way it
can split it, but the way that I tried to
get into that, I was like, this is gross and
kind of awesome. So I'm enjoying the eyeball. I let
it stay obviously xenomorph looking as good as Yeah, it
looks as tight as ever.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah, it looks great. It's yeah, there will be something.
There has to be some kind of wreck kindon or
But I think actually they're blazing the wrong trail and
they set before there's permit, Like I think all of
them kind of contradict each other. Now, like I think, oh, sorry,
because they think the canon of the whole thing is
all off whack now, but I think that's now. Maybe

(22:42):
I'm wrong. I think it is from what I've read,
I think they do just doing. It's just like I
don't care. It was like, really Scott is not involved, so.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, which at this stage is probably.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
I don't know. He shouldn't be behind the camera. He should
be Morder's originals. Probably chill out. Yeah I could do balls,
but no, I'm not British. Scot's name on things now
anymore is not.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Have you have you seen Jamie Lee Carr just being
introduced to a load of gooners. Have you seen this?
I just saw this today and I was like, so
a lot of stuff we're gonna talk about. I'm not
really sure is sort of Chinese propaganda or is actually
happening or what's going on? You know, I don't know
what's So she did she was in Freaky Friday, ye,

(23:32):
and I don't know if they made a sequel, but
there's anyone coming. It's either freaky or freaky, right. But
so she basically and then the Spooky Saturday. Yeah, sensational
something I know that wouldn't be the morose but anyway,
so she's talking to the camera and she's like, oh,
freaky Friday, come see this movie.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Blah blah.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
And she has like a kind of a blazer that's
just plunging with no shot and it's like she has
elephant tightest of the chest right now. This is Jamie
is like sixty six or whatever, and all these like
kids are not kids, but teenagers are saying this, and
they're like, what the fuck's up here? And people are

(24:17):
going like, did no one from Disney plusco? Yeah, Jamie,
We probably won't have the full baps now for this.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
We might just Jamie's you know, Jamie has been kind
of attack on people with their body since the Eadies.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Oh yeah, yeah, this is the latest in a long
series of surprises.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
I think she's always done that. There's been you know,
people will be a bit surprised by her. Fair enough
your game, Jamie, her game, we did say, because.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
That was what I was like, what is going on? Withers. Yeah, watched,
but not as far as she pulled down her blousers
by the looks of things. But it was a very
interesting thing. So apparently there's a load of I guess
teenagers or whatever, and they're just like, I'm both intrigued.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
I mean size if only we had the Jamie Lee
curt This is when we were at Edge runs that
were sixty six. We were at age sucking.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
They were all in Carnation Street like yeah, dere Ja Barlow, yeah,
Sonan Joe.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Batters not actually funny enough. I was just thinking about
this the other day. Sometimes I don't know if any
of our older listeners are like this as well, but
sometimes I got pangs of Conetriesus Christ, I'm some old
and I had that there earlier, and some of her
listeners that are older than may probably laughing at that.
But my latest was like I was thinking, this is
how kind of bizarre my brain is. I was like,

(25:41):
I'm probably older now than Les Batters view was when
he was first in Coronation Street. Yeah, probably, Like so
let's do on the mats. Are we older than Les
Batter's weak?

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Okay, well anyone that you're older than I am?

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Right Hey? First appeared in Coronation Straight and nineteen ninety
seven Les did right Now. He was played by Bruce Jones,
who was born in nineteen fifty three, So what age
would someone that was born in nineteen fifty three b
in nineteen ninety seven.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Forty okay, I just started forty yeah, fifty three to
ninety seven. Oh no, sorry, no, yeah, that's right. Fifty
for sixty seventy eighty ninety guys. Forty four okay after.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
God lez By.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
I'm they must have they must have done something with skincare,
because I feel like I look better than Les baders
Be in four years, especially forty one in like a month.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
So yeah, lifestyle is a big part of a man.
It was like some lads I watch and like Billy
Martin as we're going around talking to all the alcoholics
on the streets and all, and there was lad on
it the other day who was literally like two years
older than you. And I'm I'm not joking it. If
you asked anyone while Dey'd be like fifty, it looks
like like he's yeah, totally rankly. But the weather man

(26:59):
you're I saw all the time.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Lege You're like, well, yeah, you don't like it.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah. And if you're really slam like, if you're like
really slender, I find you look older. I think they're
a little bit of plump ban It keeps you a
bit younger looking.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
I think, well, it's like yeah, because your skin isn't
as wrinkled.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yeah, just a fucking lists.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Listening to our own podcast by mistake. But yeah, no,
I think I think you're right. There's a there's a
few lads I've seen and it's to your point as well.
Obviously they've abused their bodies with lots and lots of stuff.
But like lads who look easily fifteen to twenty years
older than they are, who probably won't make it out

(27:38):
of fifty without some sort of serious health concern.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Someone said I look younger than I am today. Well,
they said, you're pretty honest, said I'm thirty seven. Lord yeah, Lord,
Lord is right.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, I usually get thirty seven. Like people don't have
them forty one. They a couple of years younger. We're
about young looking gents.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
You know, no bobbies And you say so that's the thing.
That's a huge thing I notice is they have a
babby look about eddie. Yeah no sleep, no sleep, it's
just it's just overnight. You're like, j yeah, yeah, big jabbers.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
I've seen people go so gray, and I think as well,
nutritions out the window. You don't have time to exercise,
You probably can't walk around you need to drive everywhere
because so you're not getting your steps and you're not
getting your excited, you're putting on the lbs, your hair
is going gray, and you're exhausted, and like I talked
to my brother in law and he's like, you can't

(28:35):
even drink if you want to, like not not because
of the kids, but as soon as you have a
three minute it's like, I just want to sleep.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Depends on the philosophy my mets now at a minute,
like that they had a young child, learn now and
to be fair that I'm like, I don't know whether
it's stubbornness or whether it's just because they have wont
kid or what, but they're like, not, we're still going out.
We're not giving up our life, and they're very proactive
on the baby.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
I have. What they have is probably enamored grandparents.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Yeah, news everyone they've got it. Like to be fair,
they've got a good family networks all that the baby
can Okay, yeah you have that, you're good.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Like I don't want to be looking after someone else's I.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Wouldn't have a good network to be able to do
that with Like.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
This is it?

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Like and as well, like I know what my sister
and our kids, their grandparents would be quite old. So
while they can take it from time to time, they
couldn't take.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
It about our generation. Like so I could do that
the other day or and he'd be about my age,
maybe two or three years younger. But I was saying him,
I was like, man, sure, like because he doesn't have
kids or not neither. He owns his house and all that,
and I sent him. I was like, butcher. So when
you think about our generation in particular, let's say, from
like maybe thirty five to like forty three, forty four, maybe,

(29:51):
like we were bombed at every opportunity, Like we were bombed.
And it's not it's not to make excuses, but like,
at least here in Ireland, you know what happened to
us when we were teenagers and we were coming up,
we were told, well, I wasn't ready because my dad was.
I don't know. I was told everyone else was told
to go to college and get a degree. You know,
that was that was drilled into you. And actually Ireland

(30:13):
does have like one of the highest proportion of college
graduates per capita. I think like they're like a lot
of people have degrees there. But like so everyone in
our age group was like college, college, college, have to
go to college. All went to college, and as soon
as they got out of college recesion, jobs, recession. Yes,
Irish fell out of the country. Everyone emigranted, the ones

(30:35):
some of them emigrated, some of them stayed. The ones
that were college educated. Was very hard because as well,
back then, at least in Ireland, college was just like
New Frontier, so like a lot of people were getting
educated with degrees that were kind of stupid. But because
you were getting a degree, you just kind of thought, well,
I'm getting a degree, like so I will find a

(30:57):
job in whatever I'm getting a degree. And because you know,
not man, people are getting the grees. Not known that
everyone in Ireland was fucking getting degrees at the time
and it was becoming very competitive. Then they are set
out to the academy and you know, then people the
people that you know stayed or went. I suppose they
tried to get you know, they tried to get biomos
scraps that had that five or six years and maybe

(31:19):
not moving up the job that they're like they'd like
to and just kind of arson around. And then sure
we were getting back on our feet and COVIDED m hm,
the housing that has gone to the dogs.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Housing markets in bits as well. But those things, I know,
I think those things are like not so much COVID
because that's a little bit of an unforeseen but certainly
with the housing market is just really poor policies from
the government. From government, we get a lot of immigration
here because there's a lot of opportunity historically, which I
think and that's been a net boon, I would say
to the country because there was never any of the

(31:52):
riots and all the respect. That's a relatively recent thing.
But yeah, I know what you mean. Like, I think
my generation, because we were and a few years ahead
of me, would have been like, yeah, go to college,
go to college, go to college. No one really pushed
trades the same way, which retrospectively was they would have been,
I think, but at the same time, trades like that's

(32:14):
a more sure fire way to make money.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Well nowadays, like if I had a young kid now,
like a kid that was getting to maybe college, as
I'd be telling them, get into something like a trade,
get into something that people need.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
It's yeah, always trying to need plumbing or electrical or.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Get into something like even if it's sucking hair, hairdressing,
Like gett into something that people need to go be for,
even if it's doing nail art, something.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Do something that I think. I think that's the thing.
You see, Like I went to college and so what
I did English and history. And the only reason I
did English and history was because I was good at
those subjects in school. So you're kind of going, all right, well,
I'll do an arts degree because I'm good at that.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
The words worked, that was me.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Yeah, But they're outside of being a teacher, like it teaches.
It does teach a problem solve and and stuff like that,
and analytical skill.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Under social skill.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
You know, there's a lot of stuff developmental skills, broadly
applicable and over and again. Look, I did that, and
then I was on the dole for years and I was, yeah,
class doll. Plus no one judged you for being on
the doll. We all were on the door, drinking the
most nights of the week. What the time to be alive.

(33:22):
But you know, I've been lucky in that, got into
the job market, wound up getting into positions and all
the rest of it. But I think, and I think
a lot of people won't tell you this, but there's
a big element of that that is luck an opportunity.
Like I don't get me wrong, I work hard and
that's why I've gotten those positions, but it was if
those positions didn't open for two years, then I'm stuck

(33:44):
in the same position. Maybe I get fucking dejected and
I can't be Arson blah blah.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
And also we should mention that the straight that you're
in the job you are is not degree at all,
which is no.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
And there isn't really any job to get.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
But like a lot of lads and people like, maybe naively,
it could have been just the edge, like we're all like,
oh well, like even when you were doing, say, your
kind of stuff. In my head, I was like, I
am looking out with his degrees now when you have
maybe a good writing career or do whatever he wants
to do. And I suppose it's either the naivety of
youth or you know, we were kind of sow the

(34:19):
dream that wasn't real.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
I think it's a bit of all a couple of things.
You're definitely right about those two. The other thing and
this is just in my own experience, like I was lazy,
like I had a little bit of talent and if
I had a worked hard, maybe I could have done
someone writing with the rest of it. But laziness And
so it took me.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Like, like you say that, but like you know you
wanted to write. You got a book published, right, so
I don't think that you are lazy at that point.
You're talking about opportunity again, Yeah, I think that's I
think that's part of it. I think, yeah, I think
it's connections. Like a lot, I've said this a lot
like and it's true, it's not really about that kind
of sounds bad said, but it's not really about the

(35:01):
quality of your content. It's about who you know, and
it's it's just about the essence of what you're doing
as well. Sometimes it's just yet like a good example,
I think this might be a popular opinion what people
is Oasis Oss did two nights there in Ireland over
the week and now I love As I think the
great and I actually wanted to see him, but to

(35:21):
take a prices for true. But Oas is from me
our band that where like musically aren't remarkable lyrically aren't
remarkable pretty much like remarkable vibes.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
It's based onf vibes very bad songwriters to be fair,
like the songwriting popeah writing real catchy pop chats. You
make a good point because if that music had have
been before or after its time, it was of its.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Time vibe that people just rolled on.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
You know.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
The reason, yeah, the reason I'm bringing oss into it
is because they are like a pop like. They're like
a mega mega band like. But yes, you know, there's
probably a thousand and one bands. Okay, I'll give you
an example. It sounds rcy to compare them. But they
were bought around at the same time, Like on paper,

(36:16):
Radiohead should be more popular, don't know, And then that
sounds like a because they're more crafted. There's more stuff boat.
That's not what people always want. But that is the thing.
It's like, it's the same as like podcasts, the same
as everything. It's like there's podcasts out there that are
literally like what we're doing today, which what we do
most as I suppose, which is just kind of shooting

(36:39):
the ship chat. And I would look at a lot
of them and go, yeah, I really do much their
butter fucking some of the most popular podcasts.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
If you look for us, A big part of the
podcast is how much time you can put into it
versus what you can take out of it, like we
don't have but also I'd love to research but intricate topic,
but we just not like we if we had come
at it at a different like if we because you
and me are always curious about stuff, and I think
if we had have been like, oh, let's figure out

(37:05):
how gravity works and like actually sit there or at
least not gravity, but topics that we're interested in, I
think we would have enjoyed. I think it's just time,
you know.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
And TI time. But I also think that and part
of the reason why things like that don't happen is
that we would can't scanciously have to put a different
hat on.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yeah yeah, yeah, like you and I would have to say,
like we would eventually wind up back here because we're mesters,
Like like I am like by nature, I don't have
that in me to be like I'm going to be
like super serious all the time.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
I just don't think I can do that. I would
feel inauthentic. Actually yeah, I i'd feel because it's just
not me.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
We're authentically lazy. But it's not even less because we're
committed though we're talking about that what you talking about,
Like some of the most popular podcasts in the world
do less than us, like very and they have producers,
which is but that's what most Here's one choics for Oasis,
and I think this extends to Gareth Brooks, and I

(38:03):
think this extends to any really popular bad let's just
say the play in Ireland because that's why we live
so familiar with it. How many people do you think
went to Oasis, no Oasis albums or don't really listen
to Oasis. They know Wonderwall, Champagne, Supernova and if you
were there for the vibes, Yeah, but I think that
that I think if you were to look at like

(38:23):
a pie chart of people that went to Oasis, I
suspect more than fifty percent are going to be like non.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
I seen that. I've seen her on Instagram of actually
was filming herself, which was annoying, but she was singing
long but she did not lyrics.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Yeah, I said, babe, Yeah, Like.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
It was almost like bad lipsyn kind.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
But I'd say there's huge because like the melodies are
there to be fair to o wastis they write good
songs blah blah. Like if you think and I don't
want to use Tool as an example, but I've used
Tool as an example. If there's a yeah and it
just keeps zooming in forever man. But if you think
it's you would never have casual Tool, and you would
have people who are more casual or people who aren't

(39:05):
as into Tool. But like you would have an easily
eighty to ninety percent that are fans and then ten
percent girlfriend effectively your boyfriend.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yeah, I brought a few gigs and she's just like,
I don't know what's going on. I brought her to
see Fuzzy with Chris Jericho. She didn't know about wrestling
or rock music, and she was like, what is this?
Like he was doing Lion salts, never mind.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Crypt crypt.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
But that's the thing. Yeah, Like it's like Fuzzy and
I was a very casual affair Weather fan with them.
I just want to see Chris Jericho singing songs and
I didn't know it was class but yet I think that's
the thing. I think Oasis is more of a cultural
thing it is than an actual.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
It is almostly keeping up with the John's. It's like
thin too, but.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Regret, Like, don't get me wrong, if they come back fantastic.
I don't.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
I don't think it's their last, Like I have a
good field rabms on record everything, Like, I don't think
it will be their last tour. I actually think they've
gotten along well for this tour and the bags of
money that the med I'd say if they're going is gold.
They'll try and do it again next year.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
They're charging like for the price of a regular Like
I bought a ticket for Death Tones in February next
year and I couldn't believe it was like eighty five
euro or ninety or because I saw them a few
years ago before COVID and it was fortyd in the
Academy Bash Bash three arena. But I guess everything, I

(40:37):
mean everything just costs more than it did back then.
That price of an Oasis ticket is.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Like, well, the insurance is crazy and Ireland like even
when we did there life so like the amount that
comes off like tickets and things for that kind of thing,
it's actually really high. It was. It was kind of
to the point where you're like this.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
Insurance, Yeah we had someone with gun and the street
is gunning down. CEO has insureds going.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Yeah, so yeah, no, no, I would like to have
gone tell actually looked really good. Oss did always baffle
me because I like, if you look at the pictures
of me as a kid, I was like or nine
when like Oases were first pappen, I had the fucking
ball caught like the boys. I used to wear the
glasses and I was I was dressed like and I

(41:21):
loved Oases and but as I grew up, I was
always like I love them, but like it's very you know,
listen something, but do you pick up guitar, like and
you learn is like too, like two months into playing
guitar you can pretty much play them. Also the songs
like it's not like it's.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Not musically yeah, yeah, don't have to be No, it
doesn't sound like A or so. But there was something
whether you like Liam's voice and his melodies and his
lyrics or whatever. I think no romost lyrics anyway, I
think is the better singer too. Yeah yeah, but Liam,
yeah exactly A vibes And I think there was an

(42:01):
attitude like there wasn't was there a lot of bands
like the boys were baiting each other up and they
were just talking about everybody. And I'm sure that added.
And again you gotta remember this is the MTV. This
is when music is a much bigger deal culturally, pop music,
at least then it than it is now. Do you
know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (42:17):
It was it was part of the thing back then though,
if you were in a band to ship talk older bands,
it was kind of like encouraged almost, like most bands
were doing it.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Yeah, well you're you're drumming up a bit of publicity
and it's fun to ship talk. So if you're a
lad who's making money singing songs about shit, and you're like,
I can just talk.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
About it's super young, Like, yeah, don't when you think
about yeah, when you think about like you know now,
it was like Jesus fucking away. It's just like I
actually did not know there's a good bit older than name,
Like I didn't realize he's like something like eight years
older than that, Like he would have been a good
bit harder even when they were doing the stuff back
in the day. So and look it looked really good.
Shawl for all times and purposes. Yeah, another news, And

(43:00):
have you a candle for John Cena?

Speaker 1 (43:03):
There's a candle for John Cena.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
I think he's been diagnosis in cancer.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Has he I didn't know about that.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
I think I heard that today. I know, let me
just google that sort of. I'm not fucking because I
know we have a couple of w W. Yeah, I
heard that John Cena, and I think he shared a
cancer diagnosis thing today. I just goggled John cancer John. Uh,

(43:29):
let's see there. Oh maybe it doesn't. Let's see he's
got he talks about his hair transplant.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Yeah, I don't think that's as much of a severe issue.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Did you get a hair of transplant for?

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Yeah, I read that now on Facebook now with Facebook lives,
and I'm like a fucking boomer.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Yeah, I don't think.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
I don't see it unless it's cotton edge. Now, I
could be cotton edge stuff and it's not on Google yet, Like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
It could be. I suppose we're all pre cancerous basically.
That's how I think there's an interesting one right now
in wrestling with carrying Cross where people aren't sure if
he's doing a work or if he's actually been let
go by the w W. What's going on. I think
they're the kind of fun wrestling stories that's wrestlings is

(44:24):
restings like the cleverest, dumbest thing you've ever seen. Their
fans are so smart that they have to be really
on top of it with their storylines in terms of
breaking the fort wall stuff and k fabe.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
There's an article John saying that opens up of a
housefelt that would being diagnosed with cancer. Is the diagnosed
cancer a good way?

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Maybe Roman Reigns had cancer business? When when is this
article from three for me?

Speaker 2 (44:50):
So you could have done at some point. Maybe we
just didn't casts at the time, and I just say,
like a boom.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
Maybe that's what the pot should be. We just start
breaking new, just make stuff.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
To make up like he has cancer and that's.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Always the breaking, just all saying different lads have cancers,
like oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
It's no, Yeah, there was something else I want to
talk to you about this week on the pod and
is it gonna pop into my head? We'll see. I
don't know so much. Oh so I sent them and
I don't know if any of your listeners are saying,
did you say this clip essentially that.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
It might be a big bird and bird me like,
it doesn't look like anything I've seen.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
No, so there's just a better focus. If he's on
a Google like og polgo citing to an old couple
shot it on ther phone recently. It looks like a
big as.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
It looks like.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
That's why I can describe it. Bear was he?

Speaker 1 (45:51):
Do you remember which lake og Pogo was sort of.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
The Fuconnagan or something like that. I can't remember.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Then I'll just see if I can find Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Can't remember the exact name. It's a long time all
sincewed it don't go Pogo probably fucking twenty twenty one
or twenty twenty two. But that was really interesting footage.
Actually it was on the ones. When I seen that,
I was kind of going like, oh, hang on, this
is actually a good cryptid video. Yeah, absolutely, much like
everything else og Pogo.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Or unusually large birds close turned down the now and.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
I'm going to break it. They but we don't have
video on this podcast, no.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
I know, but you and me we can. We can
look at it and we can talk and tell the
people what we're saying, like the what it actually looks
like because I remember. But it's going to show in
a minute now. This is on Global News Ladies and Gentlemen,
which means news that goes all around the world. So Mayrna,
Jermaine Brown and Dale Hansher, who's a keen eyed sailor.

(46:49):
According to this had to be you would have to
be keen eyed. You don't want to be bain ied
as a sailor. That'll be that'll be poor.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
I've swatch out the rocks and the reefs.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
You know, and both sky at night. You'd be happy
about that. So that's the part that looks like a bird, right,
that's fine. That's hard to know. I know when it opens,
it's more right.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Yeah, the video is what looks mad unless it's like
not part of the thing that they're saying.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Ai.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Yeah, it's in this and it looks spooky, like the
head comes up. It's not an extra man, I don't
know what he's Sydney Morton.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
She's from Global News. Global News is a good a
good idea of a name for a news network. It
just keeps showing it just like it looks like a wolf.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Yeah. I think this is garbage for us A watch
along with no video I'm reread.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
Yeah, unfortunately unfortunately, So this one isn't the video we
were the.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
One we were looking at. It was basically just popped
up out of water, like I don't know if there's
much more.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
And it has an open mouth and it looks like
a big mad water effectively.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Like there's not feel right. This is a bit of
a conspiracy. This is kind of interesting. It's not conspiracy
as far as I know, it's fact. So we talked
about last week or the week before, Bob Goski was
asking us about migrants and the rail Oh yeah, all
of this migrant crisis and stuff like this. So I
get this right. Apparently the Beller Russians are sending the

(48:18):
migrants into Europe. So what they're doing is the instability
is this so in Iraq? There he goes again.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
Now I know we keep talking about Iraq.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
No, no, I want you to be paying attention or not
going around there.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Like we just saw that picture of the barry. It's
not like it's a logo. Pogo is real now on
Beller Russians. Economic saw Iraq? Iraq.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Yeah, apparently what they're doing is interact. There's this uh
what you call it travel agency tourism company, and they're
charge in iraqis like a grand to get into Europe.
So they're basically going a few a grand, we'll get
you into the EU and when they land, they're fucking
flying the Belarus they're bringing.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
They bring them across them and then from Belarus.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Then when they get in the bell Rous they give
them bold Hutters, they give them all that ship to
try and cross over in the Poland. And apparently there's
thirty thousands of them coming over every year, and that
thirty thousands, about ten thousand they are getting in maybe
eight thousand. Such a deliberate migrant migrant sort of crisis
being forced on by.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
And is it them are they trying to what's Iraq's plan?
Is it that they wanted to get footholds everything?

Speaker 2 (49:33):
It's the Russians and beto Russians.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
To be fair, the Russians are doing a real good
job of destabilizing everything.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
Well, if you're talking like if you think about it,
and you'll go like if there's well there is, it's
proven and there's a paper trail to it, then it's working.
Because when you think about it, like, no one is
even a lot of time even fucking saying anything about
governments or anything further afield or anything of a bigger

(50:02):
picture of why this is happening, because people are just going, oh,
it's just immigrants. But like I even watched them, watched
the video was Billy Moore again, my favorite scouster, and
he was walking around fucking Manchester or something. He went
up to a homeless lad and he was like, areay
from and he was like Afghanistan and he was like,

(50:22):
how'd you get here? And he was like, oh, I
paid like a grand or something to cross the channel
on like.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
A little boat, and so like, yeah, that's that's a.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
These lads are all like what people are forgetting is
there's agencies and there's people that are offering this service
and they're on the continent. And then you're going why
are they offering and who's offering it? And obviously there's
an element where there could be just criminal gangs and
you're like, okay, whatever, But then it does seem like, well,

(50:52):
it's not a Coulby as far as I'm awhere, it's
well proven. I mean there was footage I seen footage
like two years ago of like all the these border
hoppers coming in from Belarus and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
I think that's certainly part of it. I think there's
also that huge it's not human trafficking, but facilitating migration
by not even gangs necessarily people just trying to make
money to get you across and like get you across
in a boat or whatever the containers people doing all
that sort of ship. The other side of it is

(51:24):
our governments are very asleep at the wheel in terms
of what they're paid. You say, well, they're paid for
our governments. Sorry, yea, by the even do it like.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
It's all for profits. There's there's a couple of examples
there in Irish towns where and on no one blames
to these people either right away when you're looking to
point your fingers all these like eye passenters, which is
where they put all these item secrets and stuff. People
get paid to do that. So like that, like no
one like the pass Oh yeah, they get paid more

(51:57):
than regular No, But to use people's building, there's someone
getting money for that. And what happens is there's there's
a couple of places here in town, a couple of
buildings that I know I want to aim and but
I know personally of they are basically iPad not ipaths,
but they're basically housing the science takers because we're getting
money from the EU over a million of years.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
But what I'm what I'm trying, what I'm trying to
say is why do you think the EU are doing that? Like,
why why are we?

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Is it an ideology for a kind of a utopian
society that the leaders of Europe have, because you would
think that maybe people go.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Is it a stability Is it a stability thing? I
wonder like, is it a thing where it's kind of
a seesaw where they're like, if we get in too many,
it's bad. If we have too little, it's bad. And
maybe they're trying to find an equilibrium with it.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
Possibly in the elements, I think there's an element of
you know, trying to help asylum seekers and all the
rest of it. It seems like a lot of these
people who are getting here aren't really of refugee said
it's not a lot, that's the wrong word to use,
but it seems like a certain proportion don't aren't actually
running for everything. They're just getting here more and more
so economic immigration than actually asylum seekers. So that's part

(53:09):
of it. There's a lot of stuff, but like people
knowing that Ireland is probably one of the better welfare
states at the moment. Now you know, I don't know
how much again, depending on how much money we get
for that. What what the part that bugs me about
it is that I don't think that the government, they
don't put in enough time into actually adapting these people

(53:34):
and integrating these people to these two where they're going.
I think if we did that, we wouldn't be having
as many issues.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
If if the integration programs.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
Integration programs, Yeah, like that's it. That's going to be
a big problem.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Community like community in the past in general, whether it
be you're talking about science Seckers, you're talking about just
alo people has died on its ours is not community
like you'll see a lot of people and rural Ireland
said the same, are like actually find enough. I only
read a lad from Ireland talking about the recent He
was asking a question. He was like, has community just

(54:07):
died on us all? And he was using an anecdote
and he was saying, like when I was growing up,
my mom my dad knew everyone in the village and
the surrounding countryside, and we all like there was just
the social aspect, everyonek looked out for each other, but
everyone was everyone knew each other and everyone was doing
stuff to help each other. But he said he doesn't
know anyone around Like he said, he doesn't have any

(54:28):
of those ties that like his parents did, and so
he's he's worried. He was saying, like, shit, I'm worried.
But what happens then is and we did touch on
the lastpect, it was like, these villages not die on
theer fucking hale, because if the community dies, then what
happens is, you know, you imagine all of these people
who know each other die, right, and then the next
generation doesn't really know each other. That incentivizes them to

(54:48):
get the fuck out of there because they're like, well,
I don't know anyone. I'm going to go into a
town and I'm going to move to a city. And
then you have these villages that are just like the
can and there's nothing really going on in them. And
then these are the same villages where they're like hers
a thousand migrants.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Because there's nothing to really support and.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
There's no community to support them. So there's no community driving.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
A big part of why communities died seems to me,
like everybody has it's so much more handier than we
had a thirty four.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Yeah you don't have to like.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
Yeah, back then you'd run out of sugar, like and
who who runs out of milk or sugar. Now, like
it's just not a thing that happens. Who no one
seems to ever need a hand with anything or lifts
or like everyone we just have everything. People, you wouldn't
have been as bored. Maybe is the wrong word, but
I'll use it. And like the TV we had, what

(55:36):
the TV was on, there was probably more value in
having a conversation with someone back then.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
You know, like we've been living in air Street for
nearly two years and I have only mess one of
the neighbors. And the only reason I met him was
because I was out doing my front garden and they
were like taking apart big ish shrub or whatever.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
I could see.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
They were just putting it around the side of the house.
And I said, here, look, you have like a thing
that I'm using to get rid of stuff if you
want to use that, and just came in. They came
into the garden. We got chatting for a bit. Outside
of that, and outside of the people who I give
fifty quid a year or two to mow the grass
or whatever in the communal spaces, I don't know anyone
that lives there. Yeah, my parents knew everyone. You knew

(56:17):
it in ever Stream when we were growing up.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
I am a social sally, like I know most of
the people now on mine not I'll get chatting.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
You guys have a WhatsApp group and don't.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
You no, no, no, I do chating Facebook group, Facebook. No,
I do be chatting, chat with neighbors, have been over
for drinks and we've been over to them and down
the next one on that side, I chat away. I
don't when I'm out as well, and then the ones
the next one down. I spiked their plants with fucking
good ships for them because I see them they're all salad.
I was, I can't be having that anymore. I said,

(56:47):
it was all word for them. I said, ire, like
what is this fellow? That one? But I was just
like these plants. I literally was like, I've got stuff
in my house for them. I'll put it on them,
and I just want to pull it on them. That's it.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
I think that's the thing, isn't it when you do
a nice thing for someone, or if someone does a
nice thing for you. And hysterically that was like those communities.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
I'm friends with kind of people of all ages and
and some of my friends are like my dad's age,
but they'd be from Ireland, be ass from fucking Merseyside,
but like and they'd be very more like kind of
they'd ask for help. And but what's nice about that, though,
is that you know that you can ask them for
help when you need to do and a lot of
people like you and i'd have that of course, but

(57:29):
like I wouldn't necessarily. I always feel that with like
all my friends and maybe it's just because we never
put each other out, because maybe there's a a fear
of quote unquote putting each other out so you don't ask.
But like like my met Jim, say, he's he's like
my dad's age, but like he put this one stuff
up on the wall here, like I've driven him plenty

(57:51):
of places. Still appointment. Yeah, he picked us up that
time doing the hiking all like, and and I know
that I could call on him if I need a
hand and he's the same, like he bring me some
man got here could like I'm getting carters, I just
gonna come get me. But that is dynamics atist a bit.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
It's a weird thing, isn't it that? Even because like
a body of mine was away for a couple of
days or whatever, and I was in the house, saying
Paula was away doing something like I can't remember, but
he was just like, here, do you mind popping into
the house and feeding the cat?

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Given the keys?

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Is like, yeah, of course, no problem. But then when
I was well, we're going for three weeks, so it's
a bit more of an undertaking ask someone to watch
your cat. But it it is kind of a funny thing. Yeah,
people feel weird about like you're putting someone out, and
then there's the count that like, wouldn't you went for you?
But don't feel it all weird about it, something like.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Uh no, it is a strange how we've gotten as
a society. I think it will come all back around, though,
I truly do believe that.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
I think you're right.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
I think there's and I think it will probably start
with our generation a little bit. I think there's Yeah.
I think like we've come up a certain kind of
way where we're just like all this.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
Ship like, well, we'd probably the weird just fucking generation
and our parents, because like we've lived in a world
with no computers and no internet into a world that's
basically governed by computers and internet, and now we're going
into the AI realm if you like. And we've again
the generations after us and maybe one generation you could

(59:20):
argue maybe two for grandparents who are really fucking living along,
but they probably don't. It doesn't affect them to the
same extent on on the whole for you know, for
the most part. But yeah, the amount of change we've seen,
man like is just when you consider when I had
when when I was born and my folks got the house,
let's saying excerpt, we didn't have there was no heating.

(59:41):
There was just a fire. The fire had the back
bowler and that could heat the rads. But basically like
you go to bed freezer, you know nowadays, if you
don't have like fully operational heat, immediately lads are fucking
ringing a right, Yeah, so cozy and it's it's a
palsy bitches, Yeah, weak bitches.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Well it wasn't. I was living in sucking a single
panel window, single pane window house up till two years
of the castle.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Yeah yeah, well that was yeah, my folks was that
as well. That's quicker. But yeah, I know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
I only got calls either when I moved into this house,
to be honest.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
With you, but I got less cozy, moving into the
hot because I lived with my parents for COVID, then
I bought my own I like, oh, I don't have
enough money to do all the coolist with this.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's interesting, right, it's a it's
a it's a fun thing just even thinking and talking
about it both. I would always encourage people. The reason
I brought up the migrant thing is because just look
into it. Look into where and why these people are
coming over and how they're coming over. You have to
imagine like if you're like a lot of these lads,

(01:00:51):
Like if you think about it, you would have in Afghanistan,
say you're you or me in Afghanistan. Maybe you're a
bit younger, you don't have a family, but it's war torn.
Maybe you have a house, maybe have a couple of livestock.
Logically for you, you would go, yeah, I'm just going
to sell all this and try and get England or
to Ireland and get out of here and start.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Like oh fucking ship must have been over there here
and it's awful.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
But they don't you see, this is the thing, this
is the keep hard. They don't order going over living
the time.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
True, Yeah, they think they're coming over and the light
because of the people our governments as well.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
It's not our government. It's like that's what you know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
I mean, it's it's like, wasn't it Roderic O'Gorman said,
like everyone is welcoming, they're a big thing in a
load of languages, and then they got here and they're like, oh, class,
I don't even have a shed.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Not like maladays like sort of quote unquote agencies will
be selling them a dream to just take all the money.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
But I think some of our governments, but that's happens
of course, that happens to misrepresented like what what they're
stepping into.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Like it's not like Ireland. It's not like fucking our
T shirt is sitting in around in Afghanistan with like
John Ball Jeff going this is our LINGUSA to Ryan
are yeah, yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
No, but you see when when the Greens were the pipeline,
when when your man when the Greens basically they had
put out a lot of communications in many languages, borders,
and we went down and it came down. I think
it came down to this. I would say maybe in
certain cases misguided leftyism because you know they're like, don't
get me wrong, in a perfectly tope like utopian society,

(01:02:24):
you would take in every kind of call, every kind
of person, as many as they wanted. He would have
some sort of set up so that they could all thry.
Even that that's the ideal situation, right, But obviously the reality,
to your point, very different. Your man's giving up this
now he's living in a tent on More Street, like
that's shit, Like that's crap, but.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Like he's been all the lions and the pipeline together.
What I'm trying to say is it's not necessarily your
government's fault. No de facilitat them when they get to
the door, but they didn't drive them over to these
That's true. They've gone through watching figure out is how
are they getting there and why? And then do your

(01:03:02):
research from from the stuff that I've read into very
interesting seems like it's a bit of a part of
a warfare tactic. It's a destabilizing tactic. It's working, and
it's working, really working.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Is I wouldn't say even the Belarusians were able to
think like, oh, so we're gonna send over these lads
from the Middle East and then someone just goes they're
all fucking hitting Indians over there, Like why are they? Like,
I have to say, it's very hard to know, like
what the volume of these attacks are based on media
coverage because that obviously, you know, goes to the thing
that was reported on last week and there's a biggest

(01:03:36):
theory about it. But at the same time, these reports
that I've come across about Indian people being attacked is
like beyond reprehensible, so disgusted because like I.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Know, I'm sure, I'm sure it's the Indian Reddit group.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
It's mad though, Like it's just disgusting and like it
doesn't even make say if you someone who was against immigration,
like and against the sort of you know that the
refugee immigration grand whatever, that's not these people that are
getting attacked.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Like but as I said last week in the yeah,
in interrapters, Indians are the backbone of the medical industry
here in Ireland. They're the backbone of the care industry.
They're the backbone of a lot of things, a lot
of important things. And you want to talk about community, well,
one of our community doctors are and Waxter was an
Indian doctor and he was well loved and well known.

(01:04:31):
Everyone loved them and retired recently. But it's just gobshite,
brain rotted motherfuckers who are watching fucking TikTok all day.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
It'd be great if we could fucking put a few
of our own lads on a boat the fuck out
of here, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
Yeah, yeah, but you see. The thing is, and I
mentioned this on the Pod of Bears ag all like,
and it's common, and it's common for every single country,
is climate change. And people couldn't say global warming.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Is not real whatever whatever, I'm climate's going on.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
Yeah yeah, if yeah, that's whatever. But the climate's going
to change. And if the likes of Pakistan and India
start getting on in hospitable in places, you're going to
you think we have problems now with migrants and stuff
like that, it's only going to get worse, especially by
the way, if all these rivers are getting diverted, as
that India's divert in Pakistan's water and trying to take it.

(01:05:23):
If that, if Pakistan starts running out of water, like,
we're going to have so many like so that's for
people that aren't in the loop, but all that, basically,
I think it's like I'm fairly sure it's India and Pakistan,
but it's it's one of those rivers are diverting, and
I think China is doing the same thing where they're
basically trying to divert these massive water.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
Source at their border, at the border to.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
Take it from other countries, so that they have enough
water for their industry.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
You've got that, and that's a huge issue. And then
you also have the mad issue as we talked about
with the emergence A and the amount of water and electricity. Yeah,
service firms need. Like we're we're kind of just putting
the final brushstrokes on our own annihilation.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
It'll be interesting to see how it all hands out yet,
but one things for sure, we'll be talking about it anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
You certainly will.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
We'll leave it there for many funs. We are recording,
so i Emon's going away now next week. The schedule
won't be great. We'll have one or two recorded for
the weekend and one Patreon, and then what we'll do
is I'll probably do a couple of solo or guest
ones something, but it'll be a bit happy over the
next couple of weeks while we get sorted and then

(01:06:32):
I think when you're back, I think we'll actually make
a proper plan on doing a spin off Shaw, Yeah,
where's something like this, maybe accept a bit more focused
on certain topics where we have a couple of things
where we can just chat about shot about because this
is I like this kind of shit. I like talking
about a bit of everything, but opening up a bit

(01:06:53):
more or giving it a bit more focused. Maybe let
us know any of what you guys think if you
would like to hear anything or else talk about anything
particular reader, that could be fun we could do. Yeah,
we'll brand storm and there's.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Lots of stuff like yeah, like I always liked the idea.
I wouldn't like to do it every week, but I
do like do an agony uncle, Yeah, all that sort
of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Relationship advice ful, Yeah, all thatsh It's got fun like
so yeah, all of that stuff maybe more topical with
a bit of everything and.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
Yeah, and you can just switch it up so he'll
still get our fucking wab garbage and disjointed loss of madness,
but it'll just be won't be around aliens and.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Crypt When I was watching a million Dollar Extreme last week,
our podcast has a segment where basically that who's like
borderline Paradise Stophontics sends and like links and that's like
one of the things is like we'll do nix links now.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
Mix links, and I think it's it's just unhinged.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
And they just watch his links that he sounds into
him like and talk about him. So maybe we like
cord like cordles links, we talk about bad. I wonder
if he's knocking out as with the conspiracy, So I
wonder what even like is in the conspiracy.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
Last time I chatted to him, it was kind of
early on in Trump's presidency, and it was he like
he was obviously into Trump, and I'd be curious to
see what he thinks now after you know a certain
amount of time as well.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Now what's really interesting is like Trump is an extreme
for a lot of the Trumpers now, which is very interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Well, the Magga thing and back down and all seeing stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
Yeah, so now now of the fuckers that want more
extreme ship I started to get really annoyed.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
You talk about Okham's razor and like, I don't know,
maybe he's doing a lot of really good stuff economically,
and you can see the value for America in some
of the stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
It could work, It could ship could work, like it
could work.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
It could but just like.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
We'll say, yeah, I'm not gonna say that about it.
All I'm going to say is it could work, and
if it does work, more power to home.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
I think we're more lose out heavily by Yeah, no
matter what happens, we're getting bombed.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
You want to talk about recessions. The act is going
to fall out this country in a couple of years
if America pulls out with the industry out of here,
we're fucking don were cooked. Yea, all we cooked. Our
whole business model like Ireland's, like our prosperity is based
on America.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
Yeah, we're the leg of Europe that they want to
have in.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Yeah, we're getting bombed. Yeah, so you and I are
going to be this podcast now we'll be going on
with fucking clubs, club and Lads over the Head. That
would be the podcast Find the Lads for Dinner to
Rob Dinner Cast. We have to go out and rob
people every night.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
This week we're sharing the cat food with the cat.
Tune in and see how much we can stomach.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
I think my my job, you know, relatively recession proof.
My wing of the job is probably the least recession
proof as well.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
So well. The other thing is like if the if
the money falls out with all the American jobs over here,
you see, then Irish companies stop paying people as much too,
because tell what they'll started doing. It's going Jesus, you
know we can't afford the fourth Yeah, and sure I'll
be bombed and once because right.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
Now I just checked. Minimum wage in Ireland is like
thirteen fifty I think, which to be fair, is like
twenty eight grand a year if you work forty hours
a week. Yeah it's not enough, No, it's not enough,
but still thirty grand a year in terms of a
livable wage is pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
It's not when you're renting though, oh no, when you're
renting and all that, which is it's thankfully when all
the tech companies and then the pharma series put out
to be.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
Loads of free all loads of idle residents. But that's
the thing, like if you had thirty grand, If you
have thirty grand and you're not living in if you
have thirty grand in ross common.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
They are pretty good. You're not like you're not fucking
lording it up now, but.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
No, no, but like you're getting by, but everyone should
be able to get by on the lowest rung.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Thirty grand are off for our American listeners about like
thirty five thirty six grand and dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
Maybe I think it's a bit more, but again you're like,
if you're living outside the Dublin, you're probably looking at
Depending where you're living, you could be getting some pretty
decent rent have not heard all no, no, not here.
But if you're in the likes of Ross Comic somewhere
like that cabin, Yeah, for the minimum, the minimum, the
minimum minimum, just the same everywhere, you know what I mean. Like,

(01:11:21):
so that's the that's the beauty and the the illness.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
Lived as well. We have like it's funny like we
have like almost zero listeners in comics. The straight a
strange that you're under more bags.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
When I was out in Connamara and I was like,
I want to live. I want to be a more
beg and.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
Living under rock.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
Yes, class, way better than this garbage.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
With patchwork pants on the road of old quilt.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
Sure what you need?

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
Who cares?

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
If you have a sushi take on your on your
patchwork class like patchwork lovely.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
They all smell like pachuli have like them hooperer rings.

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
Why you outbreaks of sickness.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
They're white, but they all kind of look like Simbad.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
They do look a bit like the like the rapper.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
Indian dude Bad and on the boats.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
And that's right, yeah Bad the sailor. Yeah, that look
kind of like it was the name saying he had
some sort of It wasn't like Sam Bad desailers like
same Bad the Adventure or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
I'll have pants like that. But they're like like Ali
baba al.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
Yeah, Ireland this full no more Ali.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
Yeah, believe there. I don't know many falls

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