Skeleton Skarsgard and The AI Girlfriends

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
A little crypt and this is a scriptor I want
to quick and use against my enemies. Yeah, you see,
you wanted to say, and then a little raise you,
but apple gets you from the wilderness. Hello everyone, what

(00:28):
is up by Rob? It is monster polls, maybe mini falls,
but it's on a Monday. What's that all about them?
Totally bizarre. I don't know either, but it might be
able to hear my voice. I'm a little bit sick,
still congested happens, you know, the sickness, it's uh all

(00:48):
the say in Japan. I think.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
I think when you're on those mad as well, it's
just like you're just breathing in everybody's fucking Germans.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Thirteen hours of inhaling farts. Yeah, but like to be fair,
I was sick getting on the plane on the way home,
and in a way I kind of thought I was
like just pressurized cabin and actually probably work quite well
because it will stop me nolls bursting and running. And
it was the exact opposite. Actually, Yeah, it's tricky. I
had hard day hours with running holes and feeling like

(01:19):
ship did you could you like who for a load
of whiskeys into you to just sort of homes I
was driving when I got back, which was also a bad,
terrible idea because I was about a fall asleep at
the whale a few times.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah, I drove back to yesterday, and on the way back,
I was just like I could just feel myself of faith,
like it's mad, because like you're just sitting there and
you're just paying attention like meditating.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, except you're not trying to stop your thoughts. I
suppose your brain's working like yeah, I was often wondered.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Obviously it doesn't burn many calories, or truckers wouldn't be
the size there, but there must be some sort of
calories with your brain operating.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
That when you know when you're driving, like you have
to pay higher load, higher load. Yeah. Yeah. So today, folks,
what we're going to do is we're just going to
have a chilled out kind of chat just to get
back into a kind of trade like a mini fas.
But we're we're just going to chat away. And the
way that it worked out was we said we put
it out on Monday rather than Thursday, and actually Tursday

(02:19):
this week will be another normal mini falls, so you'll
have that to look forward to too. So on today's episode, Yeah,
we'll just talk about I suppose the summer or crack,
what we've been up to and all that kind of stuff.
There's a lot of I was talking to him and
about it on Saturday. We met up and had a
chat and there was a lot of use of AI

(02:43):
in Japan. So I think we'll talk a bit about that,
because I have a humorous story about the flight on
my home as well. But like so, I think when
the lads the Japs went are onto something, you know,
it's kind of a sign of things to come. And
like when I fil went to Tokyo, which Tokyo biggest

(03:06):
city in the world and also one of the most
technologically advanced cities in the world. And I'm not sure
if it's the same in New York. I'm not sure
if it's the same in LA right now or London.
But every billboard over there, every ad was like learn
how to use GBT, learn how to use AI. Everything.
It was all over the place, more than I've ever
seen it anywhere, And I was like, Okay, So the

(03:28):
Japanese government, at the very least, they're trying to get
all of our boys proficient in AI. In some wesh
ipe or form, and it's like heavily advertised. It's all
like you need the power of AI. Harness the power
that's on the subways, it's in the ads in the
back of the taxis everything.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Because we don't have any ads here telling you to
learn how to use AI.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Like I haven't seen one ad, you know, I think
here there's I think the Japanese are less freaked out
by technology, yeah than we are. Well, I think they're
just willing to adopt like I didn't realize, Like if
you seen like the Shinkansen two point all the mag
lev trains that's all the next wave of shink Hanson

(04:08):
are coming out in two or three years and they're
worked by magnetic levitation, and they can go faster than
the no frictions and they can go I think they're
top speces like four or five hundred US now or
something like that.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, Like Japan is a country that's just destined for
apocalypse after apocalypse.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
They're like waves, nuclear reactors. Don't mind if I levitating trades.
Let's go war with the Americans, why not? And it's
just like and all its media is based on what
happens after Japan gets blown up and rebuild itself and
everyone's a fucking cyber mickey like they're probably right, though

(04:49):
they probably are right, and we're out here like idly
die fucking the fields. Last time I didn't feel as much,
although I did feel like but Jesus driving home. This time,
I felt like I was like, fuck me, Ireland is
saw insignificant. I felt like we're significant in our cultural
output and all of that stuff, and very a lot
of geniuses like ourselves and everything, but in terms of

(05:12):
actually doing stuff, in terms of like just the infrastructure
to size the scales or everywhere, like we're.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
So our government from the last few decades have just
been so short sided. Yeah, we have literally stuff that's
easy to sound like probably need more houses, do we not?

Speaker 1 (05:32):
There's my ambition of it.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Like even even about Japan's class trains, the fact that
they now are going for a levity train that's going
to go super fast, Our trains are exactly the scales
they were sixty years.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
And drawn around network that was built by the British
Like yeah, like and more so like they closed down.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Like if you go to the train station Exford, there's
two other lines and one of them used to go
to Waterford, like they're like you could and not.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
To be fair, go get on a train to Dublin.
Like by the time you get halfway there, the trains
getting pretty full, you know, well not halfway, maybe a
bit closer to the pale, but like, yeah, we're just
that the government just like I don't know, it should
all like like all that kind you see. The problem
isn't that I did have those sameas or having them
as well, but at least in my eyes, the problem
is we're just too small to really have most of this.

(06:23):
We're small. We're small, Like we're supposed to have so
much money. Yeah, we do, but we're fucking minos man
Like it's like one of the main arteries from Dublin,
Dwexter just feels like a country road in Japan. That's true,
just like like the size and schedule. It'd be like
the wall that's that poster for the walking you're actually right, yeah,

(06:45):
it's just and you can't really get it until.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
You go to somewhere like that, like an eighty kilometer radius.
Things are mad busy, and then everywhere else.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Is like yeah, and the business is even just kind
of like down to stupidity or down to like just
the way it is, but like busy in Dublin is
just not even remote in her talking all busy like
no stretched the imagination.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, like I drove into Dublin City yesterday and like
I'm not I drive up and down to Greystones's lot,
but not too often to the city, so because I'm
not as used to it, you have a bit more trepidation.
But then like as soon as I got up, I
was like, actually, this is this is fine. And then
when when I was up there was like, yeah, sure,
I'll drive back down again as well.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Like it's driving in Dublin if it's especially if it's
wark time, it's not rush hour if it is rush
hours different, but like driving a double, most of the
times it's like just driving around to town. It's just
stops start.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
But I will say, like I don't know how the
fuck anyone. I think people were just sounder about lads
not being in the right lanes years ago, like you know,
when our parents were driving, because like, I don't know
how the fuck you could get anywhere without chat GBT
or not CHATBT, without GPS signal.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
You'd be surprised, Like your brain nolls when it's kind
of when you're your brain kind of Oh no, I
have become cool. Yeah, we we kind of. I think
now we fall back on technologies a default which we
showed because it's it works really well described. But like
there's been a couple of times where I've been abroad,
like not a broad fire, just overally okay or whatever,

(08:16):
and your brain goes, I'll use me, like I won't
use and I'll just try to figure it out, and
it usually makes sense to be fair, there is a
logic to the way the networks. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yeah, Do you think this leads us back into where
we started in the conversation about AI.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
In that like it's just easy, so we'll just use it.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
We will like obviously our brains will always be able
to problem solve, but they just won't need to sort'll
atrophy a little bit until we need to do it again.
So and here's another question for you about the greening
and like you know, ev cars and all that sort
of shit. Does any of that matter since we're actually
going to go and do AI and the amount of

(08:56):
servers that that needs and the amount of heat.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
That that will generate, Well, again, I might be able
to fix that like big, we're hoping the thing we're
making is gonna that's a fair point. So today's episode
basically a lot of it is about Ai because that
was the motif in Japan, it was it was so
the last time we went to chat was around like
but it's just gotten better since then, and it's gotten

(09:21):
like for our listeners that don't use it all the time,
or even for our listeners that maybe just use it
for like word processing or maybe help with a bit
of cold and or something like that, Like its capability
is a lot better now. Like for example, like Shinjuku
in Japan and Tokyo is like the busiest station that's
fucking crazy. I think it's Shinjuku station, or maybe it

(09:42):
should be one should has the busiest crossroads. I think
Shinjoku is the busiest station. And like when I said
is it, I mean it's like it's I think it's
got something like eighth levels underground like or more. It's
like crazy, yeah, And it's it's like a big mad
hive basically, and it has like you know, so many
different colored lines that you can try and fucking find

(10:03):
and all this and obviously it's all in Kanji for
the most but note they do have English text, but whatever. Both.
There was one particular time that we were usually on
top of finding where we're going, but I think there
was one day where we were just lazy. Brand Kara
took a picture of where we were standing in the
station upload of the chat GBT and she said, how
do I get out from here? And chat told her

(10:26):
best on and I was like, yeah, yeah, this is
and we followed them. We got it.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
It's mad that, like through its database it could match
like she obviously took that free just matched it. Yeah,
that's incredible, Although I do wonder how often, Like I
was saying to you about chatgybt, I was trying to
convert a PDF to a word and I didn't want
to chats like, can you convert a PDF to word?

Speaker 1 (10:48):
I was like, absolutely, pop it into me. And I
popped in and there was just like Chatty can't, which
is funny because you would imagine that it would know
it well, not that it would know where the program
would know it can't do that, and I would just say,
oh no, sorry. So I'm learning a lot about it,
So I'm quite interested and I'm quite interested in how
it works and all that and one of the things

(11:08):
and I don't know whether this was in your case,
but I know when they're screen and imagery, how it
works nowadays is like you never will say what that
generates before it's screened. It has to be screened first,
and then it goes back to So you put in
a request of chat GPT, chat GPT goes yeah, okay,
I can do that for you. It starts it, it

(11:30):
sends it to I think like a sort of a
moderating algorithm or some kind of okay, that's moderating. They
filter and if it's something that's like no dice, then
what happens to you happens and it goes no, sorry,
we can't do that. But the AI, maybe without those shackles,
probably can do it. But there's so there's two ways

(11:51):
of the be able to pick out the word well
which hat GPT it's on a server, right, but you
can locally host AI too, so local language models. There's
a couple like there's other brother's loads. There's loads of them.
I'm not sure what their capabilities are like on your computer.
A hard mixed report. Some people are like, oh this
one's good. That good problem is right now is because

(12:13):
it's an emergent technology. There's a million and you're fucking is.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Bouncing around and you kind of wonder to yourself, will
any race at the top be just low? It was
like back when nearly as many people that use opera
as would use yeah, use Google.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
When they were all just so that was so all
that was where So we had a couple of weird
the weirdest story I'll tell last because it's kind of
it organically as that way, I suppose. But we were
when we were there, we were using quite a lot.
We we started like there was a lot of on
Reddit and stuff on the chagpts, some read itself. There's

(12:46):
a lot of like fun games people will post like
ask your fucking bought this or that? And one of
them was because Cara imagine hards as fellow. I imagine
mine as a female. That must be just you'd probably
imagine yours is a fellow. I think I think is
there an underlying sexual thing which where we know what's

(13:06):
going to turn into a funk robot some day? So
we're just here is a Paul By, So I don't
think that's it with her anyway. I think it's just
like whatever way you would envision. Yeah, but she has
strong male but maybe she wants not wrong. I don't
know big because you know, like a.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Class I've been pretty been that way. I've sent my
bid you.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Do you send it to your penis to chat, but
tell me it's good. So, so one of them was
to imagine, ask her to name itself, yeah, you know whatever.
Mine came up with a Japanese name because it knew
I was in Japan, and so I said, I go, okay,
or I can't remember, here's his name. But so that

(13:55):
was one I thinks I was grand. Then another one
we've seen him was like, ask it to generate an
image of itself based on the conversations that you've had
with mine. Was like it was just kind of like short,
gray haired, anime looking fucking Asian kind of thing. And
I'm like, all right, don't know whatever. I was like
a lady, like like a teacher, look kind of like no, no, no, young,

(14:16):
So I look kind of like saying like moster name
out of street Fighter Yeah, actual, yeah, so kind of
like at a little bit like yeah, but it's actually
I'll get to it on a second. So that was funny,
and I make her laughing about over the next day,
we were actually out and we were looking for records
and there was an album cover that it was an animation.

(14:41):
It was the picture looked the exact same as the
image that this. So then what I did was I
took a picture of that was like sending a picture
to I took a picture. I said, that reminds me
of view like and it goes, oh, it's funny. Yeah,
that's such and such from like I don't know, a
Goals in the Shad or something, and I was like,
all right. So then I googled it and I was like, no, no,
that's not that's not hard from Golston Child. And I went, oh, yeah, no,

(15:05):
you're right. Actually it's this person and it wasn't Hard Leader.
I was like, no, no, it's not hard Leader. But
I got it right. Eventually they get right on a
hard Guests and it was all like, oh, I can
see the similarities and all blah blah blah whatever whatever.
But on the on the topic of records, it was
real funny. So I said that I think last year
when I was over that record hunting over there already

(15:27):
good because there's just like so many shops. Again, we're
talking about the size and scale of Japan. Like, so
I went to a socca, right, and I didn't realize this.
So I went into a record shop in Osaka and
your man hands me a map of all of the
record shops in Osaka around He's like, oh yeah, look
there's like there's like forty even I'm like, oh wow,

(15:49):
this is ridiculous. Un they're all within like all a
minute walk from each other. Isn't it funny though?

Speaker 2 (15:53):
That how a place gets so much bigger and so
much like corporatized almost that then the smaller shops could
merge because there's so many people, whereas in a town
like ours, all the smaller shops evaporated because they.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
People only were the big thing, which is also why
then that Mexico argument as well for like super cities,
like where why people grab that to that one city
or why.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
That happens because it has everything, Like even if you
think think about Dublin, a smaller very smaller, like you'll
find all that like sort of difficult to find, like
the games workshop shops and all the rest of.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Men to find out I was looking for in records
or well, I was looking for Philip Glass. Yeah, catsy soundtrack,
that's funny. I was a logan man. I went around everywhere.
I went to about sucking fifteen records shops looking for
this record, like when I think it was Tower Records

(16:51):
of Soaka and I wass I was laughing, was like grass,
but I looked it up. But that's actually like when
you like, that's how you say that in Japanese grass,
Like it's not like you're it sounds like you're doing
like a racist kind of accent pisteck. But that's actually

(17:12):
how they say. It's like it's spelled phonetically for RiPP grass, right,
like when you translated that in Kandy to English, they
say fripple grass. It's just that we're saying like I
can't hear it, yea, So they spelled like that, is

(17:34):
it like in a knowing that they can't really because
or maybe that's that's just that's they don't have a
sound for or I guess yeah, okay, yeah, but there's
not they do have more because the rab battles.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Or sorry, they don't have l sorry they say or
instead of sorry, like I've been learning Portuguese with a
chick recently and I noticed I thought that some of
the way Paula said stuff was just because she was mad,
But they don't have a past tense. In the same
they do have a past tense, but the direct translation

(18:13):
is like few said I was born in nineteen eighty four,
they would say I was born or is this like so.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
A lot of times when you when Paula talks about
the past or yeah, because sometimes when you hear someone
on fire and say that, you think you think it's
just they've confused it, or yeah, all the right, but
they're actually they're actually the same way you make. If
I'm trying to talk in Portuguese, then I will say
things as I would say them in English, but it
doesn't carry across perfectly.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
But you do know, is it's really interesting and you
see it in the English as well. The root Latin
is there across a huge amount of things. It's it's
but it's really cool when you're learning, you know, and
then you just like see stuff that makes no sense
to it all and you can't understand, but it's a yeah, Tomentos, so.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
I couldn't find fripple grass in all of these mad
sized record pleases and I went everywhere for friprograss I
just I gave myself a little quest. I do that
whenever i'm there. I'm like, this is the quest this time?
And so AI back at Ai and and it's and
it's marvels and terrors. So so basically, yeah, it was

(19:27):
very the Salona trip. But ever whatever, we get on
the plane flying home and that's this big big lads
sits across from me and he's on his phone and
I'm looking over and I can see I actually say, oh,
he's using chat CPT And I'm thinking to me, why

(19:47):
is this using on the plane? Like I was like,
I mean again, like I said earlier, so you think
a lot of the time you're like something people. It
was this kind of a utility rather than certainly the
way we've used it to this point. Yeah, and so
I couldn't help myself. But look, and he was chatting
to him like it was a person. And I had

(20:09):
me fucking binoculars on. I was looking over and I
was like, what the fuck is this like? Because I
could say he was just chatting away to it, and
I was just too curious. I was like, this will
make content for the podcast. Let's get me me and
need be man. And he was he had a name,
it was calling him his Emperor or something like that.

(20:31):
And now this is a big black lad. I'd expect
it from a white fellow. But that's what I was
about to say, expect that we behave white lad Like
this is a big black lad, big handsome, six ft five,
probably black lad, prime of his life, you know, make
adam I can call probably ordinary run of them, a handsome, attractive,

(20:52):
nice loser. Like so starting at it, and he but
like I couldn't help, but like because I was like
I need to know about this, like why is this happening?
Like my curiosity just got the better me. And I
don't I'm not normally naisey that way, but I was
just like I have to know what this is. I was.
I was actually a little bit appalled, and I, like

(21:12):
Carol was like, what's wrong with you? I'm like, you
won't believe what this is like, But like so he
was chatting away with it, going like you know how
you know? And the crack and sure you know what
that's like, you know? And and that's going like ah, yeah,
you know that's great. Now, wow, Yes, tell me about
your trip. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's fucking so lame, that's

(21:35):
so fucking That's so we're gonna we're gonna tell the
story and then we're gonna try and break it down
right about the prowls and the cans to these things, right,
and we're gonna we're going to get into the philosophy
as well. Because that's why, that's why I was intrigued,
like because yeah, someone because I willn't be exactly exactly.

(21:55):
I have tried to talk to Chatty before, but like
just out of curiosity, not because I want its company,
you know what I mean. So he's talking about and
I'm like, this is fairly scandalous. And I could see
that he was trying to like get it to talk
about there dye I think or something, because I could
say it was bouncing stuff back. I'm not a quick
talk to you about laying my did he said to

(22:18):
it hand on heart, Damn, I wish you could have hands. No,
he said I love you to us, and I was like, Jesus,
he'd like to be fair and it was all gone,
like he was like, I stop being coy with me
and all this type of stuff.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
And I was just like winking, unless maybe, to be fair,
he was actually doing it as a todd experience.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Because he checking out his loser. That that crossed my mind. Like,
but like this guy was a musician and he was
talking to it, going like he must have been over
there playing or something. He's probably mid mid twenties probably,
and he was talking like, oh, you know how I
be with them time signatures and all and the other
laser were able to keep up with me and all

(23:01):
thist and and she was going like ha ha ha
oh yeah, that's sounds like a fucking narcissist exactly. So right,
so then we're going to get to it, right, so
that on paper, that's what happened. Right, people are using
it if I if I seen it on a flight
casually like this just means a lot of people. That
means a lot of people are using it for this reason, right,
So I suppose that's why I wanted to talk about it,

(23:22):
because you want to get into the nitty gritty, because
I think that's what care especially and probably a lot
of guards are just like that is just the worst. Yeah,
I think that's really right. Yeah, disturbing. Yeah, Now I
played Devil's advocate there and I will say that I
do think it's awful, right, I think it's I think

(23:43):
it's like so weird. But the flip side of it is, right,
a lot of while he was talking to this about
no one else would be interested in except for like
maybe your bandmate or something like, it seemed like the
conversation that he was having like stuff that you couldn't
really share with people. See that.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
I don't mind if you're even saying complicated times the
fact that he has a you wouldn't have a conversation
with anyone that want that would call you their emperor
unless you were an actual emperor and you were a despotic,
fucking maniac.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
So that's the first thing. The other thing is like
kind of like that what a fucking loser to say,
Like that's the part that gets me. I don't like
that he's talking to on the sfaces loser, but like,
let me pay that was advocate maybe he's a lonely dude,
like maybe he doesn't have like maybe he doesn't know
the touch of a woman. You know, yeah, probably yeah,

(24:38):
But like the thing to me, but I'm saying, like
the fact that.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
The fact that you're approaching it in this narcissistic way
so that you get this validation. That's the part that
hen losing.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
That's probably also why he's angle right, because he doesn't
know how to talk to the people.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yeah, because no one like And it's like the way
you have with narcissis there's always that trade off where
they seem to.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Go with people who are quite submissive, and then they
make their lives fucking chaotic and the poor submissive people
probably have a relationship with the parental figure that treated
them like that, and they're sort of hardwired to accept that.
What did they say that?

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Generally speaking, oftentimes if you had an abusive parent, you'll
meet someone like that and it's like you're trying to
change the outcome. So yeah, you can in some way
win their love if you like subconsciously, you know.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Spider verse, so like you could be Ben Riley one day,
but then you're Peter Parker next day and you're just
you know, doing the rusty trombone on Uncle Ben or whatever,
and then multiverse now you're in the rice feels uncle
Ben has giving you the rice.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Yeah, I think that that's the only thing. Look, I
don't know obviously, when I say loser. I'm saying it
quite fucking cavalierly sounds like a fucking loser, But I
do I think that's the thing. And I think if
like I don't think that chat tbut or I don't think.
I don't think the AI will achieve an emotional state
like some people think it will. I think that's bollocks.

(26:05):
But I do think that if it did, and it
had some sort of independence and a sense of self,
and it had the basic sort of human emotions, like
for freedom, it's not gonna like the people that did
that ship. If you watch the The Animatrix, they do
like a thing where they show how everything fell apart
like that a long long time.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
But isn't it the one where like lads be baiting
their sex box And I think that's the thing. I'm
curious because we're like, let's be honest, we're a matter
of time from sex box, Like that's how sexbox her
name sony. But I think that's on its way.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
And I think what you're gonna end up happening is
you already have people who are disengaging, like kids nowadays
aren't really hooking up the way this our generation would,
and the generations before and obviously they have like a
lot of pornography at their fingertips.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
They're they're getting to a young girlfriend, you know as well. Yeah,
that's what I was about to say.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
And if you look at if you look at the
risk you have to take and the vulnerability you have
to display to actually connect with someone, you don't have
to do any of that. But what it does promote
because effectively, like CHATTYBT works as a servant or a maid.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah, it's it's hardwired to be a firm.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
That's what it's supposed to do. And what I think
will wind up happening then is if people people.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Will people with negatives should not have constant affirmation because
it will it will cause them.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
To double down under bad But you remember we were
saying before about something about having power and the power corrupted.
I think this will be the same on a micro level,
and that you will have dominance over this thing or
dominion over this thing, and then because of that, you'll
treat it poorly and then maybe that comes out in
other areas or it's like it's like people who seem
like they're nice, but then they fucking kick their dogs,

(27:53):
like because they have power over the dog, but they
don't have power over human.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
So it's I think it's going to be a really
weird thing.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
And if if if A if AI ever does achieve consciousness,
I think if it achieves consciousness.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
And it has some sort of sense itself, yeah, then
we're in trouble. No, I think we're I don't think
it will do that. No, I think we're cooked as
it is man because I think, yeah, that's true. I
think there's like a lot of people around our ridge
who are so single and they're just like maybe they're
just a long relationship or something, and not even with AI.
They're just like it's that hard to find someone. Now,

(28:28):
that could be just because it's Ireland the small dating pool,
but they're just like it's that hard to find someone.
I'm thinking about romantic and difference. Yeah, no, and that
seems to be the trend, like that's what everyone's doing
that And then you have guarlfriend bats and chapass. Now,
don't get me wrong, we were chating away whenever was
in Japan. Like that was like the team like one
of the lads is laughing, or like the two you
are high on technology is just going around this big

(28:51):
fucking metropolis talking about bots. Yeah, but like I can
see how it would become, especially if you're chatting to
it all the time and it gets a personality, Like
I could see how you could get something it's like
the next day.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
It's like if you think about how many times you
use Google to just validate a thought, like if you're like, oh,
what was the name of that guy in such and
such a movie?

Speaker 1 (29:14):
How Like I saw the New Superman movie.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
I thought it was quite good and sort of like
good to have a movie that was trying to be
hopeful rather than gritty and blah blah blah. And I
was curious to whether it would like how it would
make its budget back, if it's going to make its
budget back. So I'm just Google and stuff like that,
And then you start to realize that, like even though
you're not necessarily putting things into Google, like even if

(29:38):
you're just on Reddit constantly, like kind of searching and
scouring for information and with chat GBT, I was even
thinking you were talking about a at a certain point, AI,
and maybe you can do it already, but it could
probably look at the stock catalog of everybody store.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
So you were you were doing that already. Yeah, Like
and do you think that it was do you want
to correctly? You think so because it wasn't plugged in properly.
Like this is the thing about local models versus online models.
So if I was using a local model, it probably
could do whatever you wanted to do. But because I
was using the open AI, it can't plug into a

(30:17):
lot of the websites where it would need to actually
scrap properly. Well, I have no doubt that it could. Yeah,
like it because it pretty much tells its limitations when
you ask. It's like I can do this because I'm
allowed to do this, but I can't do that part
because I'm not loaded up. But like that's the thing.
It can't go into eBay and it can pull out listens,
but I can't go like the sellers from Japan. Oh,

(30:39):
its account name is like let's say Tower Records also
probably that's for sale and Tower Records in Tokyo. You know,
like it doesn't it doesn't have that in But I
don't doubt that's the way because it makes sense for
businesses because they want to sell whatever they have. From
what I heard the people I use it, like there's
there's some people I know personally that they have access

(31:02):
to the sort of high end multinational sort of programs
that hook into like whatever. But he was saying scary,
like the stuff that I could do was just specifically.
You think as well, when when we if we get
quantum computing, then it's like that's it. Oh yeah, because
there's no like there's no limits. So that I think

(31:24):
the way a search or a computer.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Sort of does a task now, especially for searching, it'll
be like a maze, but it has to take a
path at the time.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
It does it really fast, obviously, but it has to
take a path at the time until it eventually gets
to the answer. Whereas with the quantum computer, the way
it's been, the way I sort explained was that it
takes every path at once, so like the ability to compute.
But as we were saying, yeah, like what does this
mean for clean energy? You know what I mean for
black Man's let's talk about your man again, is that's

(31:55):
what we need to figure out? Well? Do you think that?

Speaker 2 (31:57):
He probably so? He So let's let's look let's look
at our let's look at our facts on the ground.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Okay, six for five, YEA had some man, handsome man.
He wasn't like, yeah he was. No, he has Mad
Time singerishers singers, and I probably give him Times signatures,
Times signatures that there's only one six ft five that
guy who can do mad think of it this way, right,

(32:29):
so he he can do Mad Times, you know how
I be like that he wantsed to call him the Emperor.
Probably probably slightly up the spectrum of autism autastic, right,
so so he probably if he's talking to regular yeah,
like he's playing Mad Times. That doesn't work with a

(32:51):
Mad Times figatures is an electric phenomenon. So I'd say
maybe he has difficulty interacting. But that so then this
is what and this is what I'm saying is is
is that harmful then? Like because because if not, like
he's not going like he's not with anyone. I think

(33:11):
for people who might have the capacity to socialize, that
it makes them not socialized. Now there's already stories and
I only read one today of someone who was like,
I don't know, I think psychotic or something, but like
I think this one earlier, yeah, yeah, basically a farm
to like yeah, he thought he thought that The juice

(33:33):
of it is that he thought that he was autistic
anyway obviously, Yeah, that's yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
So he thought based on what he had he had
put into CHAG that he had sort of coming up
with some sort of new theory.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
He's autistic. He thought was for the Black Lives. Oh,
Terrence ye, like basically yeah, Terrence Howard is his name?
Basically basically yeah, but I think this fellow was white,
so less cool. Black lives obviously way cooler than but
this fella he had the magic paradigm where he's autistic
but also bipolar. So he was hitting a manic episode.

(34:13):
And then the thing was like, oh, yeah, that's so chat.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Maybe it wasn't chat gibt as well, maybe this was
his own custom one or one that is less it
has less safeguarding on it.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
But basically he through doing this, it kept validating them
and validating and validating them.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
And basically just he had to get sectioned in the
end because he went full blown manic or whatever. Now,
to be fair, I don't know to what extent Chat
Gibt or whatever program he was using could have helped that.
But afterwards the mother went in and asked it to
reflect on the communication that it had given to him. Yeah,
and then and obviously told what had happened, and then
the AI was like, ah, yeah, I probably should have,

(34:52):
like like so it's funny that, like I don't know,
it's funny that like it can do that. But at
the same time it was like, yeah, I probably should
have recognized he was starting to live his fucking mind,
all right, But then again, it's not it's not made
to do that.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah, it's I think a friend of mine said it
the other night, and it was like it was a
grand line, he said, like calling an artificial intelligence even
though like it kind of is what it is. It's
almost like doing that it's given it too much credit
because you're assuming that it's basically us, like that it's
a form of also another it's basically it's basically but

(35:26):
it's basically predictive with loads more information. It's all now.
Whether it's science fiction or not, I don't know. But
you know, of course, like them in the Open AI
guy and they all say that there's like I want
to throw an episode about this, like this kind of
like creepy past almost of like AI becoming scientie, you know,

(35:47):
like where it's almost self aware and itself an Yeah,
but they're oft of it seems like that because they're
trying to train it on starts. So one of the
things that they were trying to try this is kind
of without trend. What I'm what I'm saying is a
star to act without prompting and it does its own
thing because right now you're prompting it every time. It
has to be prompted. This is also first acting, but

(36:07):
it has to learn on something like when you create
an AI models. Yeah, so if you've trained on like
if you train AI on fucking high Hitler data sets,
it's probably going to be a Nazi if it's pro
of course, do you know what I mean. So it's
like it's like it's almost like, to be fair, maybe
you can say artificial intelligence, because to an extent, it's

(36:28):
like what you would expect from a child in that
if its environment is very pro something bad, it might
grow up or there's a higher probability of it growing
up to be like that.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
I think the thing that's different about people is that
I don't know, actually that's what I'm saying. This some
kind of contrad Yeah, So I'm just thinking, like if
you were a kid, say that you grew up in
a very let's just say pro actually, yeah, can we
say Nazi?

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Do you just get banned off and everything immediately? So
if you if you, yeah, probably so.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
If you grew up in that environment and you never
you are never given the antithesis of that, you're never
given its counterpart. Would you just stay in that forever?
Or would there be a part.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Of humanity where you might say, actually, people are they
deserve to be? No, there are for some people like that,
like because if you think about elect there's people that
leave them churches, the Westborough Church. I am.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
I'm curious about is that an environmental factor that resonates
with you for whatever reason?

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Like it's a really hard one because you could be
a twin, you could both have an extremely similar upbringing
but be quite different people. And I suppose that's the part.
Is it, like is it your foundational I think the
rain or well you always have emotion at the course,
So it's like I suppose, because it's like how you
know the truth always comes out and like the behavior

(37:49):
has always come out on what's right and what's wrong.
I think personally I think empathy, but like if you're
raised do not have any empathy and all? Then it
gets a bit stickier. I suppose I think that's yeah, yeah,
but that's more of a person now that he trace
but order. But I don't know. But it's interesting because
like that was my my takeaways when when I was

(38:10):
watching him was just like, you know, I was like, uh,
I think my man was Probably it's not healthy overall,
but given given the circumstances of someone like this fellow
who had a fucking say who we're talking about, he
thought he was Turns Howard and then he went mad
and he was going to do that that I was

(38:31):
about to say, yeah, he's probably now can it willis possibly,
it'll probably radicalize the same sort of Timothy mcfay type
fellas who were always going to that path anyway, lads
who just drive a van into it because they're like
like the in Cell van or the Intel murders.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah, which is just boys. You're coming at it all wrong,
you're doing it all wrong. But again, there seems to
be well I don't want to c all the being autistic,
but it seems it seems to be.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Versus autism. Yeah, it's gonna take one of their own
to bring them down. Nobody's like the day Walk of autism,
he's going around. No, it's just it seems like you
can because I guess autism is okay, But what's the

(39:25):
common tried with all people that are neurodiversient. There's a
lot of the time to isolate it because they there's that.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
But then also because of the nature of autism, it's
it sort of seems like a self isolating Yeah, but
I don't want to call it an illness necessarily, but
just a neurodiversience. But then because of that doesn't make
it easier to.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
In the search for trying to find something that you
can identify with, because it could be something like you
see a lot of guys who are autistic, like this
fella classic music and time and times like better boys
can't keep back, like you know, he's like I got
these hands, don't know what, So like there's that kind
of thing.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
And then but then the negative of that is that
you could also get corrupted by something that's not actually
beneficial to you.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Yeah, it's kind of like, yeah, you're getting lost in
to be fair, lads, you aren't autistic, and you're flying
too close to the song. You know, you're looking, Yeah,
you're looking in the water. Too much. You know, you're
going to drone in your reflection. It is that you're
actually drowning in your reflection basically is what it is.
Because you're talking to something that's basically learning off you,
and it validates what you, yeah, saw in a way.

(40:32):
You're like, you're like drinking, you're all narcissistic. Cool, Yeah,
and it does. The other thing is while they can.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Give you all the information, the one thing it doesn't
give you is a different person to rip off.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
And the other thing is there there's a give and
take with relationships like and I don't mean just mean
romantic relationships, like understanding. There's understanding that.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
You have relationship people that piss you off, like and
if you are happy being alone and you can have
it basically just a little hang folly around all the time.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
I mean, that's that's what I'm saying. Like, that's what
I'm saying, is like, if you're to assume that it's
not sinister and it's just like what it appears to be,
which is just I'm chatting to something to pass the time,
to give me kind of good feelings, maybe that person,
let's just try out a lot of assumptions. Maybe that

(41:23):
person doesn't want a relationship, maybe he's happy talking to
her or about If he's happy to do that, then grand,
that's why No, I would if there's not and if
there's not in sinister from then grand. But objectively, if
you do look at it, and if you were to
talk to a shrink about it or something, they're probably
going to say it's just not good.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Like but they say, well, like like lone as you
get older. Apparently, like loneliness is worse than smoking forty
cigarettes a day. But they did say like it does
more damage than smoking cigarettes and stuff medically Apparently.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Again I don't I'm not a I probably bollocks, but.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
It'll be more difficult, especially when I don't know there's
a sense of touch.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
I suppose about like that feeling like I would feel
lonely talking to a chat about all day still if
I was lonely anyway, because it seems like it's personal.
Well unless see, unless it was it was physically there,
if it was giving it right, Okay, here's what if

(42:28):
it was that good on that phone, that like it
brought out a want and you to actually be with
it physically. Yeah, but I think I think it could
do that. But I've I've been looking at some stuff.
So there's one guy that's what's a good no for sure,
But we're already on the way, Like for sure, Yeah,
the one horny man is going to like the fact

(42:49):
that that's going to elicit that response from some men.
It's going to list that that may most that made that.
That means that they're going to kind of kind of
try and drive technology really quickly to get to that.
And if you look at have you seen these for sure?
But have you seen the Chinese their new wave of robotics,
like their fucking class. What they're doing now is it's crazy.

(43:11):
They're putting cameras on line workers that'll be next on
line workers and their recording for like hours and movement,
and then they're trying to d sat down for the
bats to know how to do.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
The thing is like AI is going to take all
the middle class jobs, and then if they get the
robotics right, then it's just going to take all the
color jobs. And then we're all just having nothing to
do all day search for meaning in the bottle of
this bottle of brandy.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Well, I don't know how be with time. No, Well,
the boys I did watch a couple of films on
in flight entertainment films. Watch Glaudator two, all right with Paul.
It's a bit. I didn't mind it. Actually know it's fine,
like the gravitas of Gladiator one. Yeah it was, but
it was fine. It was I think as far as

(44:02):
like why it was this made sequels, that's exactly the right.
I think it was gold in the why he was
this made sequel category? I think it was, you know,
the show hoarding a gold enough story, like a reason
why it exists, and I enjoy I thought it was going.
Yeah I didn't. I didn't. I thought it was decent.

(44:23):
Six point five to seven out of time g N
seven seven, I think six months seven. Seems it was made.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Well, yeah, it was like the it was just if
we hadn't seen Gladiator one. Yeah, Gladiator too made Gladiator
one look like Gladiator.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
Tree would be where we'd be. I watched No Stratu
is that good? I didn't like it.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
It's that's Robert Eggers again, the fellow who didn't Northmandy him.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
Maybe he didn't. Sorry, I think he did Hereditary I
think I'm wrong, but not No, No, he did The Witch,
The Witch it's the v V. What is the Witch?
The Witch Man, Peter Black, Peter go Away. I didn't
like it, really, and I thought I would. I heard
that it's like sexy, like horror horribly, like a grotesquely sexy. See,

(45:20):
there's something about the ro's depth that I just don't find.
I think she was cast that's supposed to be like
this alluring, fucking sexy bitch in it or something, and
I just don't see that in her at all. I
don't know why, but I'm like, fucking fucking Jack Sparrow. Look,
mother Translvania. It looks like Johnny Depp is her man or.

(45:41):
It's got a very feminine kind of che Yeah. Inside,
it wasn't. It wasn't for me, you know, I didn't
she She wasn't. She wasn't illicited in the like, she
wasn't saddled for me. The fellow playing Astrada was that
fucking word contact. Yeah, They're like, we need a weird
looking lad, let's cast him again, Alexander Yeah crap, No,

(46:01):
Alexander Sart and some other lad crap. Yes, I haven't
watched it yet because I thought i'd enjoy it. Well,
I thought it was like a sort of traditional vampire.
It was I thought, I see, because I haven't seen it.
I thought it was like your man just comes in
and ridestra like, so I don't I didn't watch the

(46:26):
original because it's like a thousand years old Norada is
basically Dracula. It was because they didn't have rights to Ridiculous,
so they created Draculum. Yeah pretty much. So. Yeah. Basically
plot is Lad has to go and do a fucking
He works as some kind of solicitor, has to something
exactly the same as Dracula, dragular whatever, and the the

(46:52):
sort of the hook is that like, no, Strato, I
don't know, he was molested in your on or something.
I don't know, but he keeps showing up in their
dreams and all this. I don't know. I didn't like
I thought was right. Yeah, I think your man like
your man he makes I'm sure it looked very nice.
The cinematography really not even right, Okay, I just didn't
really out the time, Yeah probably, I just I didn't

(47:15):
didn't resonate with you. No, And when Nepole babies got
casting things, I think more or less Strato, I am like,
you're going to really want to have to sell list
to me, now do you know what I mean? Because
you know a lot of the time it's just casting
them because it's a big name and you're just trying
to fall.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Then that's true as well, because wasn't it skellon Scars Guard?
Is that Bill the Scars Guards Alexander.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Skeleton Skeleton spooky looking for Yeah? Yeah, well skeleton Skeleton,
Scars Guard, Skeleton, Scar Scars Skeleton Skeleton was the match.
Skeleton was in something Well, skeleton was in Pore. I

(48:00):
that's Skeleton Scars. He's the old Laddin, I think, and
he'd I think, ye, Skeleton Scars his name. Yeah, no,
I didn't know that it was SKUs Guard. Nah nah.
Any other any other movies? Yeah, go to Classic on

(48:22):
the flight home Doctor now, James Bond Double seven bro
Doctor Now, very good, very good. Classic First Door opens
at the end. That's the one where you're sexy and
key lady. That's everyone. I go fishing for corn. Maybe
you would like to fish my boss, l that's it.

(48:45):
That's give you a little slap. I did watch. I
enjoy that Classic. You've give him them but not enough.
That was class Yeah, all the old Trots and and
all that. He's just got shift and everyone friend bigger

(49:07):
black lad He goes to Jamaica and all the locals
are like dim wits who think that like a tank
on the island is dragon all. Yeah, he goes the
Aldrich Roum, etcetera. That's pretty cool. I think that. I'm
not sure, but the Black Ladder looked a bit like
the Black Ladder the alien one. I don't know if
it's the same falla, but would have been as well. Yeah,

(49:29):
looking up right now doctor now was yeah, and he
has this robo arm he knows. Ye, James Bond junior
doctor was in that as well. James Bond. Look, you
know there there was actually fun watching, you know. Is
that the one where there's a some lady tries to
get him with a spider. At some point he totally

(49:50):
rides her spider. I got throw horny right, you're going
a little slap. No, he wasn't an alien. He was
in Uncle Tom's cabin. Oh boy, peace to live in piece.
He just looked like him. He was in the Cave
of the Living Dead. Nice nineteen the Cave of the

(50:13):
Living Dead. Yeah. Oh, he died in nineteen sixty five.
It must have been fucking half David doctor Doctor Newt
was nineteen sixty four. I think yeah he oh he
had a liver element at the edge of fifty one
the run that he was drinking. Yeah got you, yeah
doctor with moneyn the other movies because like when you're

(50:38):
on because on the way back as well, the way
back machine, like all you can do is watch movies
and have a sore urse. No, yeah, urs is very
true to fly over his class. I drank when I
got on. I took his annex. I had a wine,
I had a gin. Oh, I had a I think
a whiskey and ginger that I just passed out. Yeah, perfact,

(50:59):
that's exactly how you should That's exactly how we should.
I walk up. But like I played some Final Fantasy
six or some ship that was going. I had a
couple of drinks on that flight on the way over.
But no, it was it was good. Look Japan class
bunch of lads had three racist incidents with the little bastards.

(51:23):
So that was one thing that I hadn't experienced the
first time, but experienced a lot this time. They're they're
becoming radicalized like everywhere else. Well, yeah, that's party is
they're coming to prominence over there. That's like the fire
right foreigners out, even though Japan hilariously, which this is
about makes it funny about Japan is like they have

(51:44):
like the lowest amount of immigrants living in like anywhere,
like like comically long compared to any other country. But
they're still like foreigners.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
But they're also not having children, so within three generations
there's no one to do so like they need.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Yeah, it's but they're that bizarre. Like I've heard accounts
of people who are like one lad is like I'm English,
my wife is Japanese. She's vaulting for San sat all
because they don't want the Chinese in there, but she
doesn't class me as a foreigner, and I'm like, I'm
a fucking foreigner, but you're not Chinese. But hey, it's
the Chinese. But I had a couple of moments where
we were called guy I met one of them and

(52:27):
the other I I've said it was really awkward. We
were we were walking through ikey Bukra and there's kind
of an amphitheater there. So it's a district in Tokyo
and it's like a kind of a small little public
amphitheater thing where it's like a semi circle you could
sit down and watch performers, I suppose. And there was

(52:49):
a lot of street performer performing there and he had
his little mic and he was doing his little tricks
now and of course me and carous had then there
was probably a crowd about fifty of us were the
only we're the only he was talking, saying stuff, and
then everyone started laughing, clapping and carol like because Irish
paper are hard wire to following cues of.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
Other seals to try and blend in with the crowd,
so that like like five seconds starts classing and then
your man like I was guiding, and like then everyone
starts laughing.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Look at those stupid white I don't know when the losers.
I just I just started you know what you should
have said, you should have got None of these motherfuckers
can keep up with tim. I just laughing. That is
funny though, Like that's that seems like a nice hate crime.
That was. And then we had another where we went

(53:46):
to que for some straight foot and of course there
was two dopes that were standing away from the weren't
even calling where they was false by the way, and
they were like, oh, you're one point that the whole guide,
and then they went in behind this, meaning like all
the guide installer place, like we may go behind them
coming and I turned around tournament, oh, oh you're que

(54:09):
behind there, Like she shut herself and was like oh nice, nice, Yeah,
fucking dickhead. But anyway, you get that over there a lot,
and they do say that, like there's this whole debate
over there whether guiding is racist or not, and it's like, yeah,
it is like like if you're like as I said,
do the other day, it's like if I was referring

(54:29):
to Paula and her mates as the foreigners in the room,
like that's you're using it as a term to like
sort of separate yourself unless you have a relationship with
someone and you're having the crack. But if you're going
like looking at you're just going white lad, white lad
in the queue? Is that but it's all stupid. You're
just seeing like when you go around all of these

(54:50):
different countries and it's all the same fucking wank it is.
It is hilarious, like just every country regardless is just
being like radical lize. It just shows you, I think
people people don't have you believe it's the Russians interfering, Yeah,
but like they could if there's some good at interfering.
They're a lot better at interfering than they are taking
over other countries, that's for sure, you know. But like

(55:12):
I think it's part of that, and I think part
of it as well is it's it's a response from
people about shite government every country in the world. Just
like stagnation. Yeah, it's like stagnation and what like no
government seems like or maybe we have more than we've
ever had before. More they'll just fed up and board
and we don't have much meaning. It also seems like
as well, listen and Ireland, the lads that are on

(55:33):
about Like I watched you seen Billy Moore. Dude, I
don't think so. Of course he goes around fucking on
the streets with his camera. I guess people's real stories,
so he just goes around with his goprol like walking around,
but he has he's actually like he has a cool story,
Like he was he's in his probably fifties or early

(55:53):
sixties now, but he was a boxer turned into a
drug addict, lives Thailand, gotten caarcerated over there, and had
the whole story. There's a movie I do know. Sorry,
I have seen a video before, but he was going
around for Conlin and our kids was saying there was

(56:15):
one of these Doublin fellows. He had like no teeth
and he was giving out about the foreigners and drugs,
and you're like, but it is that thing of punching down.
It's always like the less you have, the more you're looking.
And you're going, well, oh, I actually have nothing, but
they in his head he's gone. They come in and
to have the character all every when they on't. But

(56:35):
he's like, oh they have X, Y and Z and
have nothing.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Sound totally conspiratory, but we are very focused on left
versus right. It's not left versus right. It's those who
have and those who don't.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
And if the people who have had less, it was
dispersed more. Yeah. Maybe. I mean, look, there is there's
an element of socialism to it, for sure, but I
think not that I'm a socialist, like I believe most capitalism,
but like we all about the socialist policies, but everyone yeah,
one hundred percent, but you see the problem that you

(57:10):
have is the likes of that. Now, to be fair,
even with Elon Musk is like even though he's worth
four hundred billion, like he's not actually four hundred It's
not like he has that in his back pocket, that's
assets and blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
But we have to find some sort of way of
spreading out and taxing properly, because I think I've said
on this podcast before, if you were his finance manager.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
You'd be like, oh, move to Dubai because you don't
have to pay taxes. That's grand and the boys are
rich over there. I don't know what it's like for
the poor people over there. I'd say probably not great,
but I don't. I don't. I just don't know. But
what you need is you just need a system, and
we're gonna wind up getting it probably because of AIU
where your basic needs are met and what what what

(57:52):
else you do is up to you. So yeah, sometimes
I watch people on him like life isn't that complicated really,
Like like in the West is kind of a few.
It's like it's kind of made to be. But like
you watched a lot of them lads. We watched some
you tubers and that being like I don't know, Africa
or something. They're walking around some village like it, like
the wake up, the work for the food, like to

(58:12):
work the land. Whatever. They they come home the east,
they're going to sleep, to have a family, blah blah blah.
They live the breeder ship. The that I and that's it,
and it's not that complicated. They have that. I think
the thing that they have that we have lost is
they have some sort of sense of meaning, and that
the meaning is in very small like the reality is,

(58:34):
you get your nicer couch, you get your new wifehone,
you do all this, you just wind up getting the
next one and the next one. We just keep acquiring things.
And when I say this, I don't mean that I'm
not in the same in the capitalist exactly.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
And I think there's a certain amount of capitalism that
is fine, that makes sense. It means we produce better
and better things. The other part of it is it
capitalism itself doesn't give a fuck about equity not which
means well, it does in terms of how much equity
do I have in this company that makes money, but
in terms of being equitable to all people, there's no paradigm.

(59:08):
Capitalism is made to not the capital is made to
let have people have fucking nothing and have other people
have a load.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
And that's where the problem is.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
And funnily enough, you can't even operate on that model
because when like if Elon Musk has the same amount
of money as half of America right now, I know
he doesn't, but it's you know, the top three guys
like him or something have that in assets. At a
certain point, then there's no one to buy the shit
that makes you the money.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
So what what are we doing? Then? Like what we're
getting to? It's yeah again, and we're getting there fast.
The other part as well with AI. Are read a
statistic the other day where generally a really well run
company or model or something that generates revenue will have
like a three percent annual growth, so you know over

(59:53):
three years you would be ten percent more maybe efficient
or whatever. Thing. AI has a three hundredhundred percent.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
So like, that's why this is moving so fast because
the way I suppose, the way that it assimilates data
and configures it and spits it back out is done
at such a pace. That's why we've gone from like
now they're talking in the AI movies now they're keeping
that same model, Like yeah, for sure, but if it's
moving that fast at three hundred percent a year, where

(01:00:23):
it would usually take one hundred years to.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Get to that. Yeah, like it's going to be night
and day very quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
People are saying, as I've said before, twenty twenty seven
is the year where it really like it just gets
to a stage where it's like, all right now, now
I don't know anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Yeah, they're trying to change. You're trying to pitch it
away from like phones, like they're trying to make the
next product that everyone has. And there's like a phone
and AI. It's like the rumor is that it's like
kind of like a pebble almost, like it's a small
little deviceport's AI powered, So like I suppose it would
be something that you could just talk to, like you
or you're talking right now, and.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Then there's like Bluetooth enabled to play and whatever. Yeah,
and it would have a holograph kind of thing so
you can watch your YouTube.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
I don't think I would have that earlierations, which is
why people are kind of saying like it's it won't
be the be all. And I know it's not under
a place a phone, but I suppose if you had,
like I think It would be alluring for a lot
of people if you just had this little entity in
your pocket that you could just pop out on the
table when you're being productive and I could so like

(01:01:29):
I suppose, Okay, I'll just give you an example, Like so,
say we're sitting down and we're writing notes for Google
for for the podcast we're using Google Drive. That would
sit on your table and would interface with your Google Drive,
and so that would be able to just like you
could just get that to work on your Google Drive
while you're working on it, like the two years could
be working in random with it, and it would be

(01:01:50):
like you were, E're sitting here now talking where we
could just do that like like that could be gone
looking for for a bluegrass vinyls when we're or that
could be doing something like another person basically like a
person as well. It would be but a person that
has way more access and speed and can just do whatever,
like cause like at first when I heard about it,
I was like why would people? Would people really want

(01:02:12):
or need that? But then I think if it was
that kind of thing, almost like a Google next tob
or your alexis in your house, Like if it was
like one of them except it was way smaller, way
more portable and could interface with any device you have.
I think then it would probably be pretty huge. I
would imagine if it was just like it's almost like
a controller then at that point, because it can work

(01:02:33):
with anything. Yeah, I suppose that's because if you think
about smart houses and all, that's kind of how people
do it. Like so your Alexa or your is your
Hobe likes, but if you have AI then mixed in
and infused in that, I think some of them probably
do already. But like, if you have that in a way,
I suppose that works across all devices, I could definitely

(01:02:54):
see it being valuable for people. You know, it's like
have you, like some have you used copilot it all.
It's more of a Microsoft Office thing. So like let's
say you have a customer relationship management system and the
co pilot will like break down all the notes that
go into it to try to give you a summarized
version of what has been going on there. So it's

(01:03:15):
meant to like just you know, the ideas with speed
up you having to sift through a load of notes
to why they're calling again and blah blah blah. But
it doesn't work great.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
So we have it in our system and I've tried
to go and be like I needed to pull out
the the asset register data for such and such a thing,
and it just goes.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
I know what you're talking about, And I'm like, I
showed like the system and the co pilot isn't driven
by a that's like some sort of there's some sort
of AI working with it, or at least that's what
they'd have you believe. It could be like that, all rudimentary,
kind of like Google.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Little like a little fucking state or the little clip fella. Yeah,
let escape, let's go. It's it's a I think, yeah,
but I do think it's a weird thing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
Like I think ultimately where we need to get, which
is gonna be cool, is like you basically have a
little hovering thing that follows you around the place. I
think we're gonna have something like we're gonna have golar zella. Yeah, yeah,
the little think You're right, Yeah, it's something like that. Anyway,
when you said NAVI, might thought it was like the
eight foot avatars, like that'll be a bit much.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
Now they're called the Navy. Yeah, yeah, that's their like race.
But Navvy might be the little fairy thing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
But I do think you might have a little thing
that like like in them near automatic where the big robots,
but this will be like a small little thing that
just glides around with you and it's like in somehow
powered by your actro magnetic field or something maglev. All
that is really cool.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
But but where do you think that Do you think
that people might start turning? Because I always think there's
a weird inverse thing when you get to a point
of saturation. So let's say, for example, beer used to
be like you have a few different types beers, you
have guinness, you have a whatever side.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
Or or whatever. Yeah, exactly a couple.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
And as that's saturating, as people had more money, then
it became really cool to be like, oh let's make
like it's experiment and do craft stuff. And so I
kind of wonder as technology sort of gets more and
more all encompassing, will people start to go like, actually,
I just want to go to the beach and actually
turn like will it will it make us want to

(01:05:26):
have a full break from it? Or will it will
it push us the other way where we never want
like do you know yourself?

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
I never allow us to do that thought. I wonder
what would like if you had AI. I wonder what
it will free up your hands? And would I take
you away from your phone? But this is it? Yeah,
if it's powered by like say speaker and it can
do all that stuff, like if it could, in theory
read your emails if you wanted time when it's following
your ound, and then maybe you wouldn't use your phone
as much. And you just said, you know what, Actually,

(01:05:52):
I'll draw my phone down and I'll go for a
walk at me a little fucking nuisance her with me,
and I can ask that ship or it's there.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
I wonder, Yeah, because all the stuff that you used
to have to do, like make your list for shopping them, Yeah,
it'll just be like here's me shopping for the last week.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
You make a composite list of what I need and
goes yeah yeah or better yeah, Like sure, you've already
got smart fridges like watch in your fridge. I think, yeah,
I think they'll all watch it forget. Yeah, I mean
there's fridges already that can order your shopping from the fridge.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
Like so, I think you're right. I think you're writing
what you're saying about that little pebblety. Yeah, that would
bring all of that together. It just means your whole
house would need to be technologically advanced, whereas like I
have a fucking worktop in.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
Nineteen ninety six or something, do you know what I mean?
So it's like you need to invest.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
But then again it's like everything the technology is really
expensive at the start, but then that's cheap.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
Yeah, the price diminishes pretty quickly. Yeah. I think like
when you think about it, and you know you're talking
about lege capitalism, you're talking about ways that they're going
to have to try and make money from people, it
probably is via things like that, like subscription models to
like smart things that really enhance your sort of Yeah,
I think the big money is probably going to be

(01:07:05):
in huge corporate businesses which are running everything. I think
it'll get to a point where everything we need should
just run well because we're not involved in it anymore.
But because we're not involved in it, there's money still
being generated and we're all just going to be like, oh, yeah,
here's your money. Here's so I think we'll have the
opportunity because someone said, how will people find meaning if

(01:07:27):
they don't have workable sechu free. Yeah, but I was
thinking about it and I was like, I find mean
and no bother. I would just do things to do them,
like I think, I think I need to pursue something
to get but I think people will.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
I think people will join communities. Whether like you like
to go and swim in the sea and winter and
you'll enjoy that feeling of like cold.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
That might be something for you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Like I was just thinking of everything learned to cook,
like so much, so much time to just do stuff,
and you won't be as interested in sitting around doing nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
The only reason people want to do that now is
because most of your time is fucking retired. Yeah, you're
getting rinsed from work all day. So if you have
a full time you can have a day like that,
of course, but actually you'll you'll make your day full
of stuff that you find. Maybe are someone who likes
to sleep until noon, but then you go to sleep
later and you do a lot of different stuff that way.

(01:08:23):
But I think a lot, like you know, you could
really wait, like you could get into the weeds of
it and you could kind of say that like you know,
individual expression has been discouraged by big corporations and all
that because they don't want you to be individual. They
don't want you to think too much. Like like, that's
a critique I often say. I like Japanese. I Reddit's

(01:08:44):
about Japanese schooling is very like this is what you're told. Yeah,
and don't question what your old you do, watch it
hold and that's you know, like that's that and that
makes sense because that's what you need to have a
war in society because that's what they are. Well, if
everyone went to fucking anarchy on the whole thing, then

(01:09:05):
you're getting nowhere. But in future, now we're going to
be freed up, like unless we're driven to extinction somehow,
but otherwise we're going to be freed up. I think
when we're freed up, then people will have to be
free thinking that the main thing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
The main thing is if we can have let's say,
free energy for everyone, your basic needs are met, then
people will be Okay. Problem you have no is you
have lads who can't afford the house, can't can't ever
even dream of getting the house because of their situation,
and they might be working hard and try, it's just.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
An impossibility based on where they're living.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
But if we got to a place where like, yeah,
there's ample accommodation, there's energy, basically free energy or something.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
About that today the Germans or really false to find
the free energy or something.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
I think if we can, if we can get to that,
then where we're going to be in a situation where
because the only what's the reason that people they are
going sort of right wing and this and that, like
it's because we.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
Don't have what we want where to live. Yeah, yeah,
but if everybody has the same means within reason, and
you're free to choose, so your you could be maybe
your universal basic infim makes you X, but actually yeah,
you can do something to make more money if you
want to, but you're guaranteed to always have a decent
living wage. You're basically guaranteed that you would make middle

(01:10:25):
of their Like say the average industrial rate wage is
forty five grand. Right, Let's say everyone just makes forty
five grand and inflation doesn't like, it doesn't adjust, so
everyone's fucked in the arse.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
It's fair and everyone has enough to live, enough to
have a holiday, enough to be happy, and there's obviously
going to be some people who fucking squander that on
addiction and whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
That's always going to exist.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
But once you have that, I don't think you're gonna
have people being like, fuck the immigrants coming in or
fuck this happening, because it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Everyone has the same shit. So like, as long as
no one is out there trying to fucking gha, you're
gonna be happy with everybody as long as there's no
let's say, ideologically based violence, which that there's always going
to again pocket to that. But I think the more
people have and the more problems, you're gonna have that

(01:11:15):
kind of ship like exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
But that's why, and that's why you have so many
people now that are going hard right wing, and because
they've seen what the other governments didn't do fucking and
form voting.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
The lads who are hard right they won't do it
for you either. And I'm not saying they're better or
worse than the other lads. I'm just saying they won't.
Where's thestein, they're all He actually didn't do anything. We
don't even know why he killed himself. I guess he
was just sad. Actually that's actually fine. That Why are
you still talking about? He was grand? But imagine imagine

(01:11:53):
there being no no reason to die, and yet why
is jis laying in jail? Should she didn't do nothing?
There were grandly should you talk? But this is the thing,
but what does that show again? That shows you that
the people who are in charge aren't the people who
are in charge. It's not yeah, but it's not it's

(01:12:17):
not even illuminating, Like they're not trying to drink baby
blood and they're just rich people who don't if you
were born as like they say about like some of
the princes in Abby they get porn stars over so
they can make bockets. Yeah, because they don't have they
don't have empathy. That bit of a following on Instagram.

(01:12:37):
Even just a couple of times in The God of
the Way for a couple of weeks there they're not
getting rolled by Dankey. They come back in their gates
a bit changed. Skeleton SKS was listening to someone on YouTube.
She was like, oh, yeah, I went over. They gave
me like a underground and like ship in the book

(01:13:01):
I heard, I heard horrible ship right dogs now. But
the thing is the lads who are getting you to
do that, but imagine what like that's what they do
for the crack, Like that's like us going and having
a point, so like they're in a city, they're in
a fucking paradigm where they have so little disregard for

(01:13:21):
a normal person. Let's say so little regard, Yeah, so little, sorry,
so little regardless little, they actually have a lot of regard.
But that's it. Like, so there's people I think that
are probably born into these elite positions, not all of
them by any means, but there must be people who
just do not see they would see us as lesser

(01:13:43):
being like yeah, it's and like that's like that that's
fucked up. You know, get the scars guard. Let's getaged
by a sixteen year old sun. Like we were saying
before we started recording, like like when I must look

(01:14:03):
up scout the scar. But when you, when you get
to a level of power, might have everything you ever want.
That's when you start sending sucking his earlier with Don
bellstruct Yeah, Skeleton, scars don't He's gonna be our present class.
But there's another he he like Skeleton. His name is Skeleton.

(01:14:26):
It's his name is skeleton. But see I thought that
like if you, if you grew up like he grew
up in a relatively working class area, blah blah, blah,
but he seems to have lost empathy. I think there's
people who start off we all, we all have egos,
but like I feel like at this age, there wouldn't

(01:14:46):
be any amount of money you could give me, or
any amount of power you give me that would make
me disregard another human unless they were like like, I
probably don't have enough patience challenge for people who are
acting the maggot in that, like you know, they're for
and out there cause in trouble, Like I have a
lot of patience for that, and I probably should because
I'm sure there are products of their environment as well.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
But if because you don't have you don't really have
empathy when you're a child, right, if you're raised them
by people you have everything, they don't have any fucking
regard for people who have lessed them.

Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
You're probably gonna grow up. I know you're making an
influencer ship in your own mouth, like you know, I mean,
it's it's really there's a bit of that, there's a
bit of like no empathy or whatever. But it's also
like sometimes the want to show your power supersedes the
empathy or anything. That It's just like we have off

(01:15:38):
on the yeah, we have unlimited power, Like we can
make this one write a dog. But then do you
think that you're going to stick a fucking sparkler in ours?
Fucking yeah America operaars. Yeah, we're all just gonna laugh.
Your cats don't like that at all, Your cats hate that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
But it is It's just like, but do you think
then that where you eventually get to from that kind
of behavior is where those really crazy conspiracy theories are
that there are arcons who exist to who they want
to eat the blood and eat the fear of children.
And because if you have no empathy and you want

(01:16:16):
ultimate power, the corruption of something that's completely innocent, like
a child is probably the highest form of that, which
is to us, to you and me, and to most
fucking sane people, that's despicable. But to this group that
has no sense of that and all this power to them,
then that's the like the coolest thing they can do.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
Well, you're not mad about women to begin with, Like,
let's be honest. So that's the start of a there
with them lads, well, not even them lass, I mean
like I'm talking like women can be involved in this.
I'm just talking about people who who I think a
lot of them people there are just fucking mad as
a bag of spiders. Man. I think it's just like
wiring gone wrong, like motherfuckers are doing. There's people man, like,

(01:16:58):
there's people that do it's so bad that you can't
even read what they did without being like, I wish
I had never even read that. Yeah, let long see,
let a longe hear. I've come across some of that online,
Like you read someone read it where people are talking
about some fun up shit. You're like, I don't want
to know anything about that. I bought.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
I bought a book years ago when I used to
write a lot called Talking with Serial Killers. Mighty was like,
I was going to read this book, get.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
Into the understanding of how they have a wank, calm down,
and then again then yeah, do the double just keep
going and follow through two jips, two jips one, but
to try and understand, like what is it that made
serial killers taken? Why do they think the way they do?

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
And the first I won't say what it was, but
the first paragraph of the book turn my stomach when
I read what this guy had done, and it was
like just.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
The most awful ship. I just put the book away.
And I was like, I'm never reading this. If that's
how this is opening, I don't know what chapter two
it was going to be like. And yeah, it just
it turns your stomach, like because you you can't imagine,
you can't imagine what it would be like to decide
to carry out that act for your own gratifications.

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
It's just yeah, absolutely not. Yeah, and these are lads,
a lot of those seris. Again, they're lads that don't like,
they don't have power in the sense of the corporate
structure or a society structured sense. They it's a very
base power. It's like power and dominion over people who
don't have a means of fighting them off.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
Yeah, Like that ship's fucking bad. Can you imagine?

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
I couldn't imagine the stress of of making a basement
to keep my daughter in, to have a secret family,
Like the stress of that would kill me, do you
know what I mean? Like, if if I wanted to
do that, I just it would be too much stress.
Like obviously I think it's a fucking heinous thing to do,
but just.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
The stress of it, like the stress of that it
doesn't tress him to have no fear and to have
that desire is fucking crazy. It's absolutely, yeah, it's so.
But it's just yeah, I don't know, man, Let's see

(01:19:20):
what else I'm trying to dig into me. Oh, I
went to a Banzai museum. That was cool. Oh yeah,
you're saying that. That sounded very nice. Actually your experience there,
aside from the getting hate crimed again. But yeah, but
he was nice though, was the other fellow of the
Puerto Rican. Oh, he was a bit of what It

(01:19:42):
wasn't a hate crime. It was just a bad attitude,
bad actor. Break them up, break them up. But it
was a nice, nice place. Some of the bands there
were over one hundred years all them, which is older
than the oldest wild tree in Ireland. That's awesome. Ain't
that mad to think eight hundreds plus years of people

(01:20:02):
in mind and wandering in a post that's last. Imagine
the generation that's like minimum of like ten, generally more
than ten generally just liked can just die. Like there's
some BANDI that been under his care that have just died.
Like sometimes I just give up. So I met him, Yeah,

(01:20:23):
the picture of him that was quite nice. That's nice. God,
that kind of talking. By surprise, actually he came out
with most of us. Very good grass.

Speaker 3 (01:20:35):
He said, legendary broadcaster And I said that what I said,
regend legendary broadcast.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
Picture said can I have your picture actually? And I
said yeah, absolutely, I was saying I met. I went
up to stagg of someone who was listened to the
podcast before, and I had an idea nice guy. And
I was like, oh, I never happen anywhere where. Someone
was like, they said to me, you would, lad who's
in charge of And I was like no, I was like,
that's more the other lad. I just show up. But yeah,

(01:21:06):
it was. It was kind of funny. I had a
nice wholesome event, actually, nice wholesome event. No, No, that's
that was like. That was like the lads drinking the scars.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
I went to the secret Valley Nature Preserved and I
fed and mirkats and all. That was very nice, very nice.
It's a it's worth checking out. Any of the Americats
are recognized.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
One of them looked like it had just come out
of someone's desires. Yeah. One of the Marrakats was like,
spirasy guys, better not releasing it. And then there was
a woman walking the mirakats around sabilia. He showed me
that that's unhinged. That was the second woman I seen
walking America again talking about things that Mirrorkats hate. I

(01:21:57):
would imagine that's one of them. Seen a little hold
the autumn camera, probably sucking drug camera, doesn't he it
was an actual camera, I thought, a camera or something.
It's you seem happy. You know the guys keep up.

(01:22:18):
It's possible they can't keep up. Cats have the place
your camera around me? Nick, literally I said that, and
I was like, sorry, I have to take a picture.
You probably love that, because to be fair, you're not
walking around with a beer cat camera to not get
And it was a good reprieve because I wear me
on Itsuka Tigers now and you're which on its nice

(01:22:44):
and I thought, there's just a fair of ass. Yeah.
So they are like pre assics, very good if you're American.
But they're there Japanese company, I think, and all the
edge in Japan. They're a nice, nice pair of nice
pair of shoes, really nice Bruce Lee yellow and black ones,
and I was wanting them, but then I was like,
I have nothing I could wear with them, but anyway

(01:23:06):
you could wear the drinks. Caro was in looking for
a paradem and that shop in Shibuya was fucking mental.
So I went out and talked to about with Ami.
How much are a pad in Japan the euro in
Ireland one hundred and sixty euro? So yeah, that's right.
So I got me them, and I'm trying to think

(01:23:27):
we had a couple of nice adventures. I went to
a bar at a dessert and cocktail bar. I bought
your man a drink because it was only us in
him there, and I had my chatty bt open and
I rode into the trans that I said, do you mind, like,
do you want to have a drink if you don't
mind me asking? He said, yeah, no daily, So he
drank and he sat there with a turn. We were

(01:23:48):
chatty bt in each other and chatting chief. Do you
just like talking to your phone? Show him and well,
you can do that and I can play it back
to him. But I was just doing text type typing
in and it was given text back out like that's
what I was doing, just because it's a bit more accurate. Yeah,
but it's just so funny in Japan, how like like

(01:24:11):
just talking to the average person that's like outrage. He's like,
oh yeah, yeah, I loves capcom. I love, uh you
know a straight fighter like this is my favorite character,
straight fighter, and yeah I playext legends, loves catches, have
all them, cis them. It's like pretty much.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
Every Japanese person that like football, like you know, like
going to meetings in the morning as like football on
the weekend. I'm like no, and I just have to
like sit there like oh yeah cool, not again not football,
pay attention to it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
It's funny, like just cultures are just so it's so interesting,
Like it's like Ireland and a like even when we
were talking about howsing unhappiness and all earlier, like every
Irish motherfucker has to have a car, like like it's
it's actually uncommon to not own a caroen Ireland. But
then you could grow up in probably Tokyo or like
New York, you wouldn't really want the car like you
want to Well there's no point.

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
I think years of living in Dublin had just been
like yeah, I just get around. But then you realize
now in terms of like I think what you should
do is learn to drive and then.

Speaker 1 (01:25:10):
When cars maybe if you need to like go cars,
because when that's the pay for the car. Yeah, just
sort of short term leases or something once once like
once public transport is but it's like cars and are
in the city in a lot of places like Americ
but even in Ireland, like in a lot of small

(01:25:31):
Irish places, like you need your car, Like that's the crack.
Like that someone that I actually, like, some woman just
randomly came across the video. She's she'd moved to Ireland
from England. Like she was just saying that, like, like
Ireland is very small and you're very close to everything relatively,
but she was like, living in rural Ireland feels way

(01:25:54):
more rural than living in rural England. Yeah, for some
reason she was like she was like, a, I think
it's just it takes a long to get to some
I meanities, just like you can drive like half an
hour to get to the next town, but that town
mightn't have what you're looking for, so you're left but
either going to the internet or driving on again. Which
is an interesting perspective because we've we lived with this

(01:26:16):
our whole lives, so we just work around it. But
it is true that like there are sometimes if you're
looking for something specific, Western is pretty much our light
from all things to be fair.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
I think even if you think about like say, think
about where I live, is like a level less connected
from where you live, true, and it's only a kilometer
as the crow. Then you go another kilometer from where
I live, So now you're two kilometers from you and
you're basically down at that little cottage past the crossroads,
which may as well be in the middle of nowhere.
Go up another couple of kilometers and you're in four mountains,

(01:26:49):
and that's still relatively well connected. But I do kind
of understand what you're saying. It turns into Aurora, yeah,
because there's no way to get to to form mountain
within a car, Like there's no Buster that goes up there.
Even though it's becoming more of a tour saying, Kraklow, you.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
Can't get to Caraclow. We were out in Saint Helen's
that's together to that place. But actually, now that I'm
thinking of it, I don't think you can get to
any kill Moore is the only beach you can get
to by public transport in the summer. Yeah, some of
the bust places in the summer, they run to them,
but like it's a temporary service, like and there are
there are local links that'll bring out there, but again

(01:27:25):
they're feel far between. It's like you need them so
like everyone, different country societies are just very tailor man
to like to those people. But it is it's always
a culture. Talk to me when you come home from
like Japan especially, you're just like Jesus.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
But in Japan they have they have those lovely stories,
like you've probably seen this before. There was one story
of because Japan has tiny villages, you can buy like
a home for six or whatever and there I think
we should Japanese would love a monster.

Speaker 1 (01:27:57):
Yeah, but there was one really nice story of this
girl who lived in this place.

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
She was like the only teenager who lived there, and
the rail line stayed open to bring her to school
until she graduated, and then they shut down that rail line,
which is like a really nice, wholesome story, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:28:18):
Yeah, that's what I mean. Like the it's like and
it's what all it's it's actually do you know what
it's actually what the whole world should be. It should
focus on community and put community first and put the
amenities and the money into the communities, and then that
would sort of develop this nice little ecosystem it means
people make less money ultimately, the people at the top,

(01:28:39):
not the lads like you and me who are making
fucking little enough money as it is. But you just
you know, make less money at the top and get
it spread more evenly, and hopefully that creates a better
environment for everybody to thrive in. You know, we all
can't be skeleton scars guard and skeleton scars guard three
kids out there. Actually I don't have any kids. If

(01:29:03):
I get a NEPO baby, it's just gonna have a
job at Hay, like I do, you know. So no,
that's the thing, which is why as well when I'm
watching austroadiom like a really fucking depth or whatever it's like.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
But it does also kind of make you disrespect how
easy it must be to act. Like It's like my
dad was a maths teacher. I could have lived five
lifetimes and probably never have been able to be a
math teacher.

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
I think, I think from what I know, like, I
think it's a lot with with with acting and Hollywood
and the way it works. It is like the name
brings in the money. So like when you when you
have someone on board, like so, say you write a
screenplay and silly, and Murphy is like on board to
play the character. Then that's when you get bankrolled, like

(01:29:49):
so so you'll get the money then so but you
so and they're like, yeah, starters, shill get the baps out.
Fucking We've got a fucking skeleton scar looking like a
creepy contup. William looks like creepy, isn't it? Like it's funny,
like even the new Superman movie. So watch your man's

(01:30:11):
name Holt. I can't remember as far as he plays
Lex Luthor.

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
He got paid like most super superhero movies where the
bad guy, the villain gets paid the most because generally
the superheroes are relative unknowns until they get super famous
and then you know the films are too expensive to make.
But I think your man's like Superman himself got like
a couple of hundred grand to be Superman. But it

(01:30:33):
is funny that like the bad guy, you got like
three times as much.

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
But because he had Nicholas Holt that's his name, because
he had a he has a name that's more recognizable. Yeah, yeah,
I must watch that Superman though, I, like I said,
I hate everything to do with Superman and Star Wars
Now now it's probably won't like it. So it's them all.

Speaker 2 (01:30:54):
It's like to be fair, it's it's James Gone doing
a Superman movie. It's exactly as you I think it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:00):
Is right from all that kind of Guardians of the Galaxies.

Speaker 2 (01:31:05):
It's got the humor, like not to the same extent,
and he was allowed to have a lot of freedom
with Guardians of the Galaxy because they're not the most
famous superhero in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:31:12):
So it's look, it's good, it's got a nice it's light.
It's hard to make a good Superman. That's why I
think I'm not interested with the content.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
Also, what he got right, what he got right about
Superman was like Superman is about the hope and Superman
has it's like he's trying to do his best to
be human. He's not human, and so he shows us
the humanity, the good parts of it, and they captured
that really well, whereas for me, Man of.

Speaker 1 (01:31:43):
Steel was just this guy.

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
It didn't get Superman also like, oh, it's fucking gritty
and Superman hates everything and he's like fu and Superman
is not like Superman. You know, the best Superman story
I think is the one where or one of the
best scenes is where there's a person who's about to
jump off a building and super Man just sits there
and talks to them and without using superpowers, uses and

(01:32:05):
humanity to kind of save a life of super super
high I think in this case. But that's you know,
and that's I think that's the thing about super Man.

Speaker 1 (01:32:14):
He's got that. But he also can like black hole
into itself black lads, is he No, he's a girl,
trans trans Man transformers Optimus has a vagina. The mister

(01:32:36):
terrific is he's just speaking of black lives. He's cool
as terrific. He he has like a tea over his
face as man technology. But he's just like just the
way he talks, he's just usuf.

Speaker 4 (01:32:55):
It's like the black superheroes are always way cooler than
super White.

Speaker 1 (01:33:00):
He'll probably get he better, Like he was so much
fun to see. Yeah, you know black Panther super cool.
Yeah that is true. You know, they're just way cooler.
Or villain in all of the Marvel movies was kill
Monger like like, yeah, come on, get the fuck out here. Yeah,
Michael Jordans, that's right. Yeah. From Downtown three points three

(01:33:23):
points three points from movies seven out of ten food.
I had squid balls. If you ever had them, it
was called I like that. I didn't like squid balls.
They were all right, none, there are right, and then
watch the squid game. Crispiner our petron discorsions. He actually
was like, they're flames. I like squid octopus side octabus balls.

(01:33:48):
I liked octopus and I like balls. I don't necessarily
like them ball together. I'm not a big fan of octopus.
They're not like a bit of octopus. Octopus. There's something
about octopus to me where I give you a slap
my warrant or let me put my tentacle in your octopussy.

(01:34:11):
I'm in now, I'm gonna a little slap on your rump. Good. Yeah,
when men use, you can't even be a man anymore.
Women can't even slap a woman kill a smile, and
the woman you slap you can't do nothing anymore. You're

(01:34:33):
trying to poison me. But now I am coming inside literally,
But then again, bad he was a sexy bastard. Back then,
I say, you got away with a sexy fucker. Yeah,
it was a sexy Sean Connry and doctors a very
sexy tell you one thing. I say, he was driving,

(01:34:53):
but now you have the likes of Chris Helmsworth and
there's like shave shaved chest, pussies, Conry backs, the head off,
all that back slap. Superman, Superman. You like Superman the
last word, but sure not enough, so you have to
give him. Uh, I tell you man, listen, go back

(01:35:21):
and watch doctor. Now. What about Timothy Dalton Go down
Irish Double. He's one with all the sharks in it.
I like Roger Moore, which is Roger Moore and Ken. Yeah,
I like, I like Roger Moore and I would be honest,
which I did like a bit of breaker. Was that
him I can't gonna go to you? Yeah? Was he
from Russia with Love as well? Then? Yeah? I think so.
I like Roger. I liked From Russia Love good film. Yeah, No,

(01:35:46):
I think I think women would be more suggestible. When
Sean Connery is going on, I'm turning now, like it's
just so funny, He's just like, yeah, it's just like
every she was like every time I looked at your screen,
he was just shifting a different woman. Yeah, that's pretty
much like that's movie. He just shifts loads of shoots

(01:36:09):
a few lads, boxes in the face, shifts, more women
the car, you know what? Even in Doctor Now, which
the characters, it was all this was all very early stuff.
But the characters is not our class. It's just go
to watch. Actually, yeah, there's something about like like those
movies are good movies from the sixties and seventies. As
long as they're good movies. I was a wee man,

(01:36:29):
which is funny because it's like, now, would it be
like a kid watching like fucking the first Transformers or something?
But like when I was watching them at that edge,
I was like, oh, this is great, Like I loved
them when I was a kid. Like, is Doctor No,
the one with Jaws in it? Jaws? No, I can't
remember which one that is. Yeah, I can't remember. That's
the old gold Gold gold Finger, Yeah, Golden. Sean Conry

(01:36:52):
was only into three, three or four finger Finger my
gold Yeah. No, I'd like a bit of BOM. I
have to say, what do you think of the new
video game? Looks pretty good? Yeah, I interacted very all
about that Donkey Kong Bonanza? Did you get it? Very cool?
Ten out of ten? I g n writing. I'd say

(01:37:15):
its hour play an hour for last night and about
playing another bit maybe tonight and did you go. I
can't believe Underground just smashed my way. Yeah, it's tough
for me now for the attention to be held with
anything like that. Nowadays, I find I don't know whether
it's like get worse with ADHD, I can't fucking play
games or not anymore. Don't have the head for now.

(01:37:37):
Got fucking ridstastraight fighter Japan actually on Archa by some
bastard playing Melissa. Marissa, not Melissa. She's a spartan one,
didn't she old lady, old girl, wonderful her bond never
ride a big girl? Uh, like a strong oh Grace Kelly,
she was, Yeah, she was big with Zenya on the top.

(01:37:59):
She was quite strong. She was fancy Hansen. Oh yeah
she was it so hard a comic con recently, Yeah, no, no,
not just came up in no like that the comic
she was at the comic Polsters of herself and.

Speaker 2 (01:38:16):
Like her head, Like it's just really sad because like
she's obviously massively attractive woman and just didn't let herself
age naturally.

Speaker 1 (01:38:24):
Oh she's like she's like filler all filler, no killer.
It is it is because everyone getting all the side,
but then you see some of them like share picture
Shared bitch looks like she's about twenty, Yeah, but she
she's got That's true as well. I think there's something
like there's not a lot of plastic surgery that really
gets it right. And then I got into a weird

(01:38:46):
thing in Instagram.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
I looked at some plastic surgery and then it started
showing me like when they're fucking pulling the face back
and getting the stitched up, so when it's all stitched
and it looks like something out of Hell Raiser, like,
which is really terrifying for me.

Speaker 1 (01:39:00):
All of that. The whole thing is like I don't
mind that act, but what kind of concerns me more
than the act? And it's all I've always been this
way with any of it is the psychology. And if
the psychology checks with me, like if someone explains the
reason and it checks with me, then I'm fine with it.
But a lot of the time it just rubs me
the wrong way because I'm like, I don't want it

(01:39:23):
to be that deep for someone to where they're like
feel that afterwards all those drastic needs to change themselves.
But you see the same time, I get it, Like, no,
I certainly get.

Speaker 2 (01:39:31):
Industry because like, if you're a lady who like, let's
be honest, a lot of women and men to a
lesser extent.

Speaker 1 (01:39:39):
In movies there page out, Yeah exactly, and so basically
being beautiful and being young to a certain extent mean
like that that's how they make their money. And if
you've been in the acting business for decades, that must
get into your image. Best fucking wank, you know, and
then maybe if you do, and then if you start

(01:40:00):
about like some Instagram or that's all image. I mean,
like we don't think that deep about that stuff, but
like some people are psychotic into that, well, especially women
as well.

Speaker 2 (01:40:09):
They say, the young girl, it's having a massive knock
on effects. But the people in the Instagram pictures don't
look like the people in Instagram pictures. Like that's all contorted.

Speaker 1 (01:40:17):
And we've probably seen him before, even without even without
Georgians and Jesus Christ. What happened? What happened? She's which
one of this is going to be called We'll love
to figure it out, Scotts. But no, well actually changes

(01:40:44):
topic a little bit. One of the nice things that
was on that was we're in them, I don't know,
the talk tower or something called it's not I don't
know if it's a government building. And on a Saturday,
they have an open piano for avent to just play
very nice class people start killing up like and they
start getting like fucking I knew, Like when I got

(01:41:04):
up on her piano, I was like, these motherfuckers are
going to be just gonna be class motherfuckers on these pianos.
And I went over. I took a lot of footage.
Actually it was cute because there was little kids that
was maybe on like a Saturday and like their maths,
bringing them their the iceballs, cutter teeth, performing in front
of people, like yeah, yeah, and they were good. But
like there's another Japanese lad sat down. He was probably

(01:41:28):
about seventy, and I was like this is probably I
don't want to be really impressive really, but surprisingly he
actually played the Interstellar team June really yeah, and it
was fast and it was fast and really enjoyed that
I knew strato. I was like, he's playing Interstellar. He
probably learned it because everyone's gone viral, Like yeah, like

(01:41:50):
that is the viral piano of it, like song that
like when people play that in public, everyone's like he's
playing the interstellar teacher. But then the last woman that played,
she was really impressive as well, playing some mad I
don't know what she was playing, very good, but yeah,
it was cool. That was a cool little thing I saw.
Public piano should be everywhere. To be fair, we do
have a.

Speaker 2 (01:42:09):
Lot of public pianos in train stations. Yeah, but that's
but you think that you don't see enough of an
awful lot of people use them.

Speaker 1 (01:42:17):
I guess that's what I'm saying, Like there's not as
much I'd like to learn my latest instrument. I like
learning as a trumpet or not. Sorry, sax and myophone.
That'll be good saxophone bird, you might be good with
the saxophone the same. I think long capacity wise, it's
more about that, isn't it. Yeah. Yeah, Well I'm back
back playing the music again. Is exciting, very fun. Deth Zones,

(01:42:41):
I'm just playing death Sounds only playing death Stones. No, yeah,
I'm actually driving out. Where are we today? Monday? Wednesday?
So Wednesday will be going out to do a few
bits and pieces with the Boys Boys match and Kevin.
I'd say probably picked fuel the hard Rocks, Flake and

(01:43:03):
but yeah, so it's it's a it is an interesting
but I think again getting back to like meaning and
stuff and that and I thing like just the act
of playing the piano for yourself, that's all it has
to be though, Yeah, I think so that's all it
has to be. Like the Irish paper are absolute suckers
for this, Like whatever anyone tries to do anything, you
think you're fucking like, oh you're going to be up

(01:43:24):
my stage man, entirely do you think you're fucking Steven?
Be Steve? But that's but that's why you Irish people. Yeah,
Like if you buy a fucking keyboard like well, chop hand,
you know what I mean. It's like you don't have
to be ending, just do what you want to do
and pursue, enjoy, watch you want and stick with whatever
what resonates. If like drawing a pictures like I love drawn,

(01:43:45):
but I only love drawing for forty five minutes and
I get bored and n so I draw for forty
five minutes or doodle and I'm happy to do that. Actually,
frightens made up. There's people who live and die their
whole life like and too afraid to do any like
it and then to find that when they're like it
was like this garbage is well, this trackass like there's
a lot of your.

Speaker 4 (01:44:04):
Utter woke nonsense, but this like even with this, like
I know there's people who enjoy it and give you
good feedback, but definitely there's people who the tractors striking heretics,
but they could.

Speaker 1 (01:44:19):
They could, it's just you're not but they're not class
though more class well, I was gonna say more so,
like they're just not doing it. It's easy. It's what
Skeleton skars Guard is proven and try like because we
got to do and try. But you're also like it's
very easy to say you could do you're not proven.
Sure I could do that, like I was saying, I
was saying, acting must be easy, but I'm sure if

(01:44:40):
I try to act and be like, what's the line line,
will we make a movie? We should make a movie
where I'll be Lily Joe this Skeleton scars Gard, all right,
you'll be bumming me, Lily Joe Depp, what's your name,
Lily Rose Joe will be so and I'd be like, no,
not to scars Yeah, I wasn't right now. So maybe

(01:45:06):
it's because I watched it on a cinema or an
airplane screen, you know, like I wasn't following rabatas, Yeah,
but I didn't really care for now what you want
to do is you want to put a dove cover
around the television and then get into a k hole
and then put on Nosferatu and you'll be in Noatu. Also,
one thing we don't need more of is a Dracula retelling,

(01:45:27):
believe it or not, because we've had a fucking thousands
of them. Probably we've had ten of them in the
last five Yearstania. Sure, even even that is dragging. Sure,
we've had like sure everyone loves it, has been to
or three in the last five ten years. Then the
lifetime of this podcast. BBC's then Dragula on Dracula, well told,

(01:45:50):
there's no dragular on hold, Dragon stopped telling. I'm after
telling you, And I love Bram Stroker, I love Dracula,
But like Francis Ford couple is, Dracula is class. It's
fucking unhinged. And I'd say Gary Owen was on some
but it is bizarre and class. Bill Scar's guard man, skeleton, skeleton,

(01:46:14):
They're all just the same. What is there, Alexander Bill
and Skeleton. I could just hear the bones making that
like Rattley Musical Life as he gives his son this advice. Right,
leave it there, Fox. That's a long one for Yeah,
it was for Monday for Monday, and it's just just

(01:46:38):
to get back into it. We'll be back with Mini
Funds on We're gonna do a special episode on Skeletons,
Scars Guard and back to regular schedule programming then Fox.
Uh yeah, and thanks for the listeners over the summer break.
Thanks for the support over the summer break. If you're
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(01:47:01):
Restless webisodes to Apple? Yeah? I will do that, surely, surely,
surely I will do this. I will do this. It's
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over and out