April 21, 2025 • 35 mins
When firefighters responded to a blaze behind a Phoenix church in August 2009, they expected a routine call. But as the flames died down, they uncovered something far more disturbing—a discovery that would lead detectives into a gruesome and deeply unsettling murder case.
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Speaker 1 (00:34):
So I took him to my house, walked him down
the street. I don't know why the media acts like
the motherfucker couldn't walk. He walked very well, walked him upstairs,
kicked his ass, and killed him.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Phoenix and Arizona is a spar rolling metropolis set against
the breath taking backdrop of the sauna and desert. As
the fifth largest city in the United States, it both
a vibrant mix of Native American, Mexican, and Western influences
shaped by centuries of history. Once home to the ancient
Hahokan people who engineered an advanced canal system, Phoenix has
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since grown into a bustling hub of commerce, tourism, and
outdoor adventure. Despite its rapid expansion in modern skyline, Phoenix
also has a darker side, one marked by crime, poverty,
and the struggles of those living on society's fringes. On
a scorching August morning in two thousand and nine, firefighters
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responded to a blaze behind a church near Peoria and
Twelfth Avenues. What they assumed was a routine call quickly
turned into something far more sinister. As the flames died down,
they discovered something horrifying inside that burning trash can. It
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was a quiet morning in Phoenix, Arizona, on the fifth
of August two thousand and nine. The city was already
simmering under the weight of the summer heat. The candy
clung to the skin and turned the streets into a
shimmering mirage. But that morning, there was something else in
the air, something darker, something far more unsettling. A thick,
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acrid stench cut through the usual morning haze, drifting across
the streets and settling into the back parking lot of
the Covenant of Grace Church at the intersection of Ninth
and Pretoria Avenue. It was the unmistakable, stomach churning smell
of something burning. A passing driver spotted smoke curling up
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from a metal trash can behind the church. Thinking that
it was nothing more than garbage, said au Blae by
a careless hand. They called the fire department, expecting a
quick response and little more. But as firefighters arrived and
doused the smoldering flames, the routine call took a nightmarish turn.
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Stuffed inside the twisted metal drum was a body, dismembered,
charred and unrecognizable. Even the fire couldn't fully erase the
brutality that was inflicted on the victim. His skull had
been caved in the result of repeated savage blows. A
three inch nail had been driven straight into his head,
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His teeth had all been ripped from the skull. At
least fifty stab wounds riddled his body. His legs had
been cut off, and there was an effort to remove
one of his arms as well. As If that wasn't enough,
the man's throat had also been slashed. All of these
injuries had been inflicted while the man was still alive.
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They were in various stages of healing. In the end, however,
the man had been killed by strangulation. The TV wire
had been wrapped tightly around his neck, cutting off the airflow.
This wasn't just a killing, This was something else, entirely,
something personal, something filled with rage. It was clear that
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the man had been tortured. The remains were carefully transported
to the medical examiner's office, where an attempt would be
made to determine the victim's identity. Meanwhile, word of the
Gresome discovery began to ripple through the city, sending a
shudder through the community. Among those most shaken were the
members of the Covenant of Grace Church. Pastor Leonard Griffin
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struggled to make sense of the horrifying discovery made behind
his church. Speaking to reporters, he said, it's upsetting to us.
We're sad for the family of the victim. We have
no idea who the person was or what the situation was.
Where here is a lighthouse for the commun to try
and help spread the peace of God. Here we just
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hope we can take this tragedy and try to turn
it into something positive and good for the community. In
those early hours, theories began to swirl. Had the victim
been a member of the church. Perhaps they were attacked
after leaving the event The night before there had been
a gathering at the church that ended around nine thirty pm.
Was it possible that somebody had been targeted as they
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walked to their car. But as detectives were through the
list of attend days, that theory quickly unraveled. Everybody from
the event had been accounted for. Here for the victim
was they weren't tied to the church, and that left
detectives with the chilling question. If not the church, then
where had this man come from, and, perhaps even more disturbingly,
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who had wanted him a raise so badly that they
had gone to such brutal lengths to destroy his body.
Over at the Medical Examiner's office, as detectives worked to
piece together the brutal final moments of the unknown victim,
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they had one crucial till at their disposal fingerprints. Despite
the damage inflicted on the body, technicians were able to
lift a usable set of prints. These prints were then
run through the national database and soon a match appeared
on the screen. The dismembered remains belonged to forty six
year old Terry Neely. Terry wasn't a nameless drifter or
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somebody living on the fringes of society. He had a home,
a life, and people who knew him. Terry Neely was
a paraplegic confined to a wheelchair for most of his life.
While he had limited use of his legs, it was
only for short periods and he relied on his chair
to navigate the world. Terry lived an assisted living care
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facility where he received support due to both his physical
limitations and a mental disability. Those who knew Terry described
him as kind, friendly, and eager to please. He had
a habit of telling people what they wanted to hear,
small embellishments, little white lies, not out of malice, but
simply because he wanted to impress others, to fit in
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and to feel like he belonged. He was well known
in his community, but he wasn't well connected. People recognized
Terry's face exchanged pleasantries with him, but beyond that, Terry
lived a quiet, solitary life. He had no close friends,
no family nearby, just the staff and the residence of
the assisted living facility. But despite this, those who interacted
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with Terry said that he was always happy. He had
his routines, his small joys, his own way of getting
through life. And yet, somehow, this gentleman who had difficulty walking,
who needed help with his day to day tasks, had
met a death so violent, so over the top brutal,
that it left even the most seasoned detectives shakin who
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would do this to Terry Neely? And more importantly, why.
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With Terry Neely's identity confirmed, detectives now had a new
mission retrace his final steps and uncover the series of
events that led to his brutal murder. They started with
the last confirmed sighting on the evening of the second
of August two thousand and nine, at around eight pm,
Terry was seen leaving his assisted living facility in his
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motorized wheelchair, where he was headed. Nobody knew. As detectives
worked on the case, they made a public appeal. If
anybody had seen Terry that night or they had come
across an abandoned wheelchair, they were urged to come forward,
but rather than waiting for tips, detectives turn to surveillance
cameras in the area. One particular piece of footage caught
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their attention. Shortly before the burning trash can was reported
behind the church, a white buck or pontiac was seen
leaving the area. This was significant. If the killer had
torched Terry's body, they likely drove to the scene, dumped him,
and then fled. What does a fire need to burn accelerant?
Detectives had a new theory the killer had to buy
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gasoline somewhere before setting the fire, so they come through
security footage at gas stations near the crime scene, looking
for any suspicious purchases around the time the fire was discovered.
Then at a Circle Case gas station just one hour
before the fire they spotted something. A man entered the station,
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walked up to the counter, and paid for three dollars
worth of gas, just enough to fill up a small
portable gas can. This wasn't just any man. Detectives recognized
him immediately. His name was Edward McFarland, but on the
streets he was better known as Cracker. He had a
tattooed across his neck. McFarland was a petty criminal, a
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name that had crossed police desks more than once. There
was another detail that caught their attention. He drove a
nineteen eighty eight Chevy Celebrity, a car that closely resembled
the one seen leaving the crime scene. It wasn't just coincidence.
Police moved quickly. Just a few days later, they tracked
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him down outside a kymoart near Interstate seventeen and Northern Avenue.
McFarland wasn't exactly a master of deception. He had a gun, drugs,
and a needle on him at the time of his arrest,
But it was what he said when officers snapped the
handcuffs around his wrists that shook them. What took you
so long? Mcfartland was no stranger to law enforcement, and
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at first it seemed like his arrest might close the case.
But then detectives made another startling discovery. He wasn't the
only suspect. When MacFarland was picked up, police were already
looking at him for another crime, a local robbery, and
he hadn't done it alone. His accomplice was a woman
named Angelus Simpson. Simpson was quickly brought in for questioning,
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and his detective started piacing things together. A chilling pattern
began to emerge. Locals had seen Terry Neely with Angelus
Simpson on multiple occasions. They weren't just acquaintances. The two
dig drugs together, often mating outside an abandoned apartment complex
not too far from the crime scene. Was it possible
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that both Edward MacFarland and Angelas Simpson had something to
do with Terry's murder? Or had Terry trusted the wrong
person walking into something far more sinister than he ever imagined.
What detectives would soon uncover would shake them to their
very core, because Angelus Simpson wasn't just any suspect, was
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a cold blooded killer with a story so disturbing, so remorseless,
it would soon make headlines across the country. Very little
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is known about Angela Simpson's early life, but what is
clear is that she grew up in turmoil. Born on
the twenty ninth of November nineteen seventy five, she spent
much of her childhood in foster care, a system that,
rather than providing stability, subjected her to further abuse. Simpsons
experience wasn't unique. The foster care system in the United
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States is meant to provide temporary homes for children removed
from unsafe situations, yet for many it becomes a cycle
of instability. Studies have shown that around eighty percent of
children in foster care struggle with significant mental health issues,
often stemming from past trauma and neglect. Many of these
children bounced between multiple homes, never experiencing the consistency or
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support necessary for healthy development. In Simpson's case, the abuse
she endured shaped her worldview. The physical and sexual violence
she suffered in foster care left her deeply scarred. By
the age of ten, she had already been institutionalized in
various mental health facilities, diagnosed with multiple disorders that would
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follow her throughout her life.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I started being hospitalized at ten years old. I have
a mental history from ten years old till present, so yeah, as.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
She grew older, her troubled past gave way to an
adulthood marked by drug addiction, crime, and instability. She never
held a job, instead relying on robbery and sex work
to fund her drug habit. She gave birth to four children,
but they were all eventually taken from her and placed
into the custody of her biological mother. Simpton had little
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to no contact with them, further cementing her isolation from
any meaningful support system. This cycle is common among those
who age out of foster care. Studies indicate that nearly
half of foster youth become homeless within eighteen months of
leaving the system, and many turn to crime or substance
abuse as a means of survival without adequate mental health support.
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Simpson's path to violence may have felt inevitable. Her life
had been one of chaos and destruction, but nobody could
have predicted just how far she would go. With Edward
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MacFarland and Angela Simpson now behind Barrs, detectives pressed forward,
determined to uncover the truth about what happened to Terry Neely.
More statements who are collected That's when police spoke with
a man adjured a nearby apartment complex, and what he
told them changed everything. The manager recalled an unsettling conversation
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with McFarland. McFarland had bragged about the murder, saying that
he helped dispose of Terry's body, but when it came
to who actually killed him, he pointed the finger at
Angelus Simpson. According to McFarland, Simpson had done everything herself,
the torture, the murder, the dismemberment. His only role was
helping her dispose of Terry's body. But it wasn't just
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a confession, it was also a threat. McFarland warned the
manager that if he told anybody what he had heard,
he'd end up just like Terry, dead and dismembered in
a trash can. Luckily, the manager ignored the threat and
went straight to police. Armed with this new information, detective
shifted their focus to Angela Simpson's apartment. What they found
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was unsettling. Outside, sitting in the grass was Terry's motorized wheelchair.
There was no doubt now Terry had been inside that
upon apartment before he was killed. Detectives quickly obtained a
search warrant, and what they found inside was the stuff
of nightmares. The apartment was barely livable. The carpet had
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been ripped up, the walls were stained, and the space
felt more like a crime scene than a home. There
was no furniture except for a single chair and a
full length mirror scattered around where a pair of needle
nosed pliers, a gallon of great value brand bleach, and
a lot of blood. But it was the final discovery
that truly unsettled investigators. Amidst the filth and decay, they
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found the remains of a cat and a kitten. The
kitten had been cut into four pieces, just like Terry.
This wasn't just a crime of rage of opportunity. This
was something far more disturbing. Angela Simpson didn't just kill
Terry Neely. She enjoyed it, and soon she would tell
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the world exactly why she did it. It was becoming
more and more evident that Angela Simpson wasn't just involved
in Terry Neely's murder, she was the sole architect of it.
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With enough evidence pointing directly at her, detectives brought her
into the interrogation room. She sat down looked at the
detectives and made a single request. She would tell them
everything in exchange for a candy bar. The detectives obliged,
siding the candy across the table. As Simpson unwrapped it,
she smiled, and then she laughed. Three bites of chocolate.
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She confessed not just to Terry Neelly's murder, but to
every unimaginable detail of what she had done to him.
She told the detectives they had the right person. She
had acted alone. Edward MacFarland was innocent. She claimed he
had nothing to do with the murder, and it only
let her borrow his car to dispose of the body.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
So I took him to my house, walked him down
the street. I don't know why the media acts like
the motherfucker couldn't walk. He walked very well, walked him upstairs,
kicked his ass, and killed him.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
One detectives ask why she had done it. She gave
them an answer that was as chilling as it was senseless.
She believed that Terry Neely was a snitch.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
It was just too much, the things he talked about,
it was just it was too much.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Do you believe him? I mean, lots of people go
around claiming I'm a snitch or make the Really you
don't say, well, I think they may talk about that.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
I've got I know people coming, I've got associations with
law enforcement. You know I've got this.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
I'm a friend with this.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Do you happen to have a list of those.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
People they named rop? Well maybe in the circum but
you know what I'm saying. People say lots of things
to make themselves sort of.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Well, well, he picked the wrong nigger to say that too.
If he wanted to brag about putting so many people
in prison, he picked the wrong person.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
And that's what that's what did it to him.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
That's that's why what the bragging about putting people in
prison riot the people you knew?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
No, I didn't know anything.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Do you believe him? Do you think he really was
a snitch? I hoped if he wasn't.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
And in her world, snitches had to die. She said,
I don't want my children, of the people I consider family,
to be in a place where there are snitches. But
Terry Neely wasn't a snitch. He was a disabled man
who had struggled his entire life. He lived alone in
an assisted living facility. He had no real family and
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no criminal ties. He sometimes made things up to impress people,
but to Angela Simpson, that didn't matter. She said that
years ago, Terry had told her he had told on
a righteous person, and for that he had to die.
Detective sat and horrified silence as Simpson detailed every moment
of the murder. She had a lured Terry to the
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abandoned apartment, promising him sex, or she had waited for
the right moment, a tire iron hidden nearby, ready for
the attack. Then she struck. She beat Terry relentlessly until
he collapsed onto the floor, bleeding and barely conscious. But
she didn't stop there. She forced him into a chair,
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positioning him in front of a mirror. She said she
wanted him to see himself, to watch as she pulled
out his teeth one by one. When asked why she
had done that, her answer was cold and emotionless. He
needed to see what he deserved. Because Terry was disabled,
there was no escape. He couldn't run, he couldn't fight back.
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He could only sit there, trapped inside a nightmare. For
three days, Simpson kept Terry alive, torturing him in ways
almost impossible to imagine she beat him again and again,
switching between a tire arms and the hammer, and she
pulled out a three inch meal and drove it directly
into his skull. But even that wasn't enough. Simpson man
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slashed his throat and strangled him with the TV war
And only then, after days of unrelenting torture, did Terry
finally die.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Help me understand for three you know, I know the
crimes of passion or something, and you know, and in
the heat of the moment, But to spend three days
driving nails into a guy's head and pulling his teeth out?
Why I found it necessary? Did you find it pleasurable
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or exciting?
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Or was there?
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Was this just a necessary necessary? So this was more
like a business like proposition. You were doing something helped
need a job that needed to be done?
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Right, Really, Ryan, and whatever came into your head, I'm
going to drive a nail and was there? Was? This
just was a symptom of what was at hand in
that apartment.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Right, But Simpson wasn't finished yet. With zero hesitation, she
dismembered his body, packing his remains into a trash can.
Then she borrowed McFarland's car and drove to the convenant
of Grace's Church, where she sat his body on fire.
When asked if she felt guilty, Simpson's response was chilling.
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I don't feel bad about it. The only thing I
mought about is that I didn't get to kill more snitches.
But then she said something unexpected. She admitted that in
some way she was relieved to have been arrested. She
touched on her own mental health, stating, I think something's
wrong with the world I live in, but according to
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killed period. It was clear the Nenangela Simpson's mind, she
had become something of an enforcer, a person who had
the right to kill people she believed deserved it. The
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murder sent shockwaves through the community, in part because of
Terry Neely's vulnerabilities in the brutal way in which he
was killed. As a paraplegic who required a wheelchair for mobility,
he was part of a demographic that is disproportionately targeted
for abuse and violence. People with disabilities, particularly those living
in assisted care facilities, face a four times higher risk
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of experiencing violent crime compared to the general population. According
to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, disabled individuals, especially those
with cognitive impairments, were more likely to be victimized due
to their perceived vulnerabilities. Angela Simpson claimed that she had
killed Terry because she believed that he was a snitch.
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Raising is deeply rooted in street culture, where the idea
of informing law enforcement is often met with extreme hostility.
The note snitching mentality has long been embedded in criminal circles,
reinforced by rap lyrics, gangcodes, and fear driven environments where
speaking to the police is seen as an unforgivable betrayal.
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In many communities, even innocent individuals have been accused of
being informants and have suffered violent retribution as a result.
But Simpson's justification for her actions was particularly chilling. She
admitted that she barely knew Terry, and her belief that
he was a police informant came solely from his own words,
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words that may have been spoken in an effort to
impress her. Terry was known to be friendly and eager
to please those who knew him, described how he often
told people what they wanted to hear, sometimes embellishing stories
to make himself sound more interesting. It's entirely possible that
in a casual conversation, Terry mentioned something that led Simpson
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to believe he had once cooperated with police, But in
Simpson's mind, that was enough to warrant his brutal execution.
She said to detectives, I don't want my children, of
the people I consider family to be in a place
where there are snitches. Despite making a detailed and gruesome
confession to both detectives and reporters, Angela Simpson pleaded not
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guilty when she was officially charged on the twenty eighth
of August. She was indicted on multiple charges, including first
degree murder, kidnapping, and abandonment or concealment of a dead body. Meanwhile,
prosecutors were still deciding whether they would seek the death penalty.
County Attorney Andrew Thomas made it clear that this case
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would be pursued aggressively, stating the level of cruelty alleged
in this case is severe and we will aggressively prosecute
this case. Our office will determine in the near future
whether it's seek the death penalty for this defendant. But
Simpson wasn't the only one facing charges. Edward MacFarlane, the
man who helped dispose of Terry's body, was also indicted
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on felony charges of abandonment or concealment of a dead
body and hindering prosecution. With Simpson behind bars, detectives turned
their attention to one disturbing claim she made during her
interrogation and later during news interview, Simpson had suggested that
Terry Neely wasn't her first victim, but what's she telling
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the truth? Phoenix Police spokesperson Lewis Salmatito addressed the chilling possibility,
stating it's going to take a long time because we
don't know if she's telling us the truth or not.
They have to evaluate what she says, review some cases,
and put her at the scene, regardless of it's here
or wherever she lived at the time. Detectives launched a
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full scale investigation, coming through unsolved cases that might match
her violent modus operandi, but despite their ad efforts, they
found no evidence that Simpson had ever killed before. Her
claims of multiple murders was just a sick and twisted lie.
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For years, there was no public updates in the case,
But then on the twenty second of March twenty twelve,
Angela Simpson returned to court and changed her play. She
pleaded guilty to the first degree murder of Terry Neely.
It was part of a play deal. In exchange for
her guilty play, the death penalty was taken off the table.
Just one month later, she was sentenced. Judge Paul mcmurdy
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handed down the harshest sentence possible, natural life in prison
for murder, with an additional fourteen years in prison for
the other charges. Natural life means no possibility of parole,
no early release, no furlough, no chance at freedom. For
Angela Simpson, prison was now her home forever. But if
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she found any remorse for what she had done, she
certainly didn't show it. In fact, she walked her own sentencing.
She had no sympathy for Terry Neely or his loved ones. Instead,
she bragged that she wished she would have kept Harry
alive longer, that you wanted to torture him for a
full week.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
And I've seeing previous interviews, and I've been with the police,
and one of our colleagues talked to you once upon
a time. You're very upfront, very much about talking about
this killing.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Right, you murdered this man. Yes, you tortured him.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Of course, there is no ambiguity, and there is nothing
you want us in court today.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
You said you're not here to pretend to be remorseful,
of course not.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Why would I do that?
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Are you remorseful?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Not at all?
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Why?
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Why would I be?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Well? Why did this man deserve to die? You claimed
he was a sam Well, what proof do you have
of that?
Speaker 1 (31:00):
He told me he was a stage She told you
on many occasions, But that really doesn't matter. Why did
you guys want to kill me. Phoenix wanted to kill me.
What's the difference. Everybody has a reason to kill My
reason might not be good to you, but your reason
wasn't good to me.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
So and her previous claims of killing multiple people, she
admitted that that was just a lie since and then
touched on her own mental health problems.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
When you say mental history, I mean did you care
that anyone feels sorry for you?
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Do you want any feel sorry for me? Yeah? You should.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Should the people who are watching this say because she
had a bad child, of course, not she had.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
As mental illness, of course not. No, we should feel
some sympathy for you. No, you would not have that.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
I want no sympathy.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Now what then? Then? Do you care what anybody thinks? No,
Angela Simpson and I don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
It's again your candor. I've interviewed people who have committed
murders before. Usually they sort of prevaricade, or they this
or that. You're about as direct as it gets.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Right. Why is that it's only fair?
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I expect you to be the same way.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Okay, do you think that it was fair today?
Speaker 3 (32:14):
It was justice in that courtroom? No?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I don't why I should have gotten the death penalty.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Do you did you want the death penalty?
Speaker 1 (32:28):
No, no, I prefer to spend my life with my sisters.
But yeah, I do believe that would have been justice.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
She also spoke about how she was being treated in gail.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
It's terrible.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Jail is awful. They don't.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
They have no well, they have no compassion. They don't
give us the things we need.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Here will be will prison to you, to your understanding,
I certainly hope.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
So you're hoping that it will be a better existence, Yes, definitely.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Sim Since she didn't think too much about her punishment.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
You know, I got a lot of family in prison,
and uh, I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that.
I got many sisters in prison. I can't wait to
see him. It's really not that much of a punishment
to be sentenced to spend my life with my family.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
But there was one thing she did regret that she
didn't get the chance to kill a second victim, an
alleged arm robber she had been targeting. She said, I
just didn't have time. I had to go somewhere. I
should have killed him when I had the go. But
perhaps the most chilling moment came when she was asked
if she would kill again without hesitation, Angela Simpson issued
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a dark warning if the opportunity arises. I hope so well.
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So I took him to my house, walked him down
the street. I don't know why the media acts like
the motherfucker couldn't walk. He walked very well, walked him upstairs,
kicked his ass, and killed him.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Phoenix and Arizona is a spar rolling metropolis set against
the breath taking backdrop of the sauna and desert. As
the fifth largest city in the United States, it both
a vibrant mix of Native American, Mexican, and Western influences
shaped by centuries of history. Once home to the ancient
Hahokan people who engineered an advanced canal system, Phoenix has
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since grown into a bustling hub of commerce, tourism, and
outdoor adventure. Despite its rapid expansion in modern skyline, Phoenix
also has a darker side, one marked by crime, poverty,
and the struggles of those living on society's fringes. On
a scorching August morning in two thousand and nine, firefighters
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responded to a blaze behind a church near Peoria and
Twelfth Avenues. What they assumed was a routine call quickly
turned into something far more sinister. As the flames died down,
they discovered something horrifying inside that burning trash can. It
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was a quiet morning in Phoenix, Arizona, on the fifth
of August two thousand and nine. The city was already
simmering under the weight of the summer heat. The candy
clung to the skin and turned the streets into a
shimmering mirage. But that morning, there was something else in
the air, something darker, something far more unsettling. A thick,
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acrid stench cut through the usual morning haze, drifting across
the streets and settling into the back parking lot of
the Covenant of Grace Church at the intersection of Ninth
and Pretoria Avenue. It was the unmistakable, stomach churning smell
of something burning. A passing driver spotted smoke curling up
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from a metal trash can behind the church. Thinking that
it was nothing more than garbage, said au Blae by
a careless hand. They called the fire department, expecting a
quick response and little more. But as firefighters arrived and
doused the smoldering flames, the routine call took a nightmarish turn.
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Stuffed inside the twisted metal drum was a body, dismembered,
charred and unrecognizable. Even the fire couldn't fully erase the
brutality that was inflicted on the victim. His skull had
been caved in the result of repeated savage blows. A
three inch nail had been driven straight into his head,
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His teeth had all been ripped from the skull. At
least fifty stab wounds riddled his body. His legs had
been cut off, and there was an effort to remove
one of his arms as well. As If that wasn't enough,
the man's throat had also been slashed. All of these
injuries had been inflicted while the man was still alive.
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They were in various stages of healing. In the end, however,
the man had been killed by strangulation. The TV wire
had been wrapped tightly around his neck, cutting off the airflow.
This wasn't just a killing, This was something else, entirely,
something personal, something filled with rage. It was clear that
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the man had been tortured. The remains were carefully transported
to the medical examiner's office, where an attempt would be
made to determine the victim's identity. Meanwhile, word of the
Gresome discovery began to ripple through the city, sending a
shudder through the community. Among those most shaken were the
members of the Covenant of Grace Church. Pastor Leonard Griffin
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struggled to make sense of the horrifying discovery made behind
his church. Speaking to reporters, he said, it's upsetting to us.
We're sad for the family of the victim. We have
no idea who the person was or what the situation was.
Where here is a lighthouse for the commun to try
and help spread the peace of God. Here we just
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hope we can take this tragedy and try to turn
it into something positive and good for the community. In
those early hours, theories began to swirl. Had the victim
been a member of the church. Perhaps they were attacked
after leaving the event The night before there had been
a gathering at the church that ended around nine thirty pm.
Was it possible that somebody had been targeted as they
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walked to their car. But as detectives were through the
list of attend days, that theory quickly unraveled. Everybody from
the event had been accounted for. Here for the victim
was they weren't tied to the church, and that left
detectives with the chilling question. If not the church, then
where had this man come from, and, perhaps even more disturbingly,
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who had wanted him a raise so badly that they
had gone to such brutal lengths to destroy his body.
Over at the Medical Examiner's office, as detectives worked to
piece together the brutal final moments of the unknown victim,
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they had one crucial till at their disposal fingerprints. Despite
the damage inflicted on the body, technicians were able to
lift a usable set of prints. These prints were then
run through the national database and soon a match appeared
on the screen. The dismembered remains belonged to forty six
year old Terry Neely. Terry wasn't a nameless drifter or
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somebody living on the fringes of society. He had a home,
a life, and people who knew him. Terry Neely was
a paraplegic confined to a wheelchair for most of his life.
While he had limited use of his legs, it was
only for short periods and he relied on his chair
to navigate the world. Terry lived an assisted living care
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facility where he received support due to both his physical
limitations and a mental disability. Those who knew Terry described
him as kind, friendly, and eager to please. He had
a habit of telling people what they wanted to hear,
small embellishments, little white lies, not out of malice, but
simply because he wanted to impress others, to fit in
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and to feel like he belonged. He was well known
in his community, but he wasn't well connected. People recognized
Terry's face exchanged pleasantries with him, but beyond that, Terry
lived a quiet, solitary life. He had no close friends,
no family nearby, just the staff and the residence of
the assisted living facility. But despite this, those who interacted
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with Terry said that he was always happy. He had
his routines, his small joys, his own way of getting
through life. And yet, somehow, this gentleman who had difficulty walking,
who needed help with his day to day tasks, had
met a death so violent, so over the top brutal,
that it left even the most seasoned detectives shakin who
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would do this to Terry Neely? And more importantly, why.
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With Terry Neely's identity confirmed, detectives now had a new
mission retrace his final steps and uncover the series of
events that led to his brutal murder. They started with
the last confirmed sighting on the evening of the second
of August two thousand and nine, at around eight pm,
Terry was seen leaving his assisted living facility in his
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motorized wheelchair, where he was headed. Nobody knew. As detectives
worked on the case, they made a public appeal. If
anybody had seen Terry that night or they had come
across an abandoned wheelchair, they were urged to come forward,
but rather than waiting for tips, detectives turn to surveillance
cameras in the area. One particular piece of footage caught
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their attention. Shortly before the burning trash can was reported
behind the church, a white buck or pontiac was seen
leaving the area. This was significant. If the killer had
torched Terry's body, they likely drove to the scene, dumped him,
and then fled. What does a fire need to burn accelerant?
Detectives had a new theory the killer had to buy
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gasoline somewhere before setting the fire, so they come through
security footage at gas stations near the crime scene, looking
for any suspicious purchases around the time the fire was discovered.
Then at a Circle Case gas station just one hour
before the fire they spotted something. A man entered the station,
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walked up to the counter, and paid for three dollars
worth of gas, just enough to fill up a small
portable gas can. This wasn't just any man. Detectives recognized
him immediately. His name was Edward McFarland, but on the
streets he was better known as Cracker. He had a
tattooed across his neck. McFarland was a petty criminal, a
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name that had crossed police desks more than once. There
was another detail that caught their attention. He drove a
nineteen eighty eight Chevy Celebrity, a car that closely resembled
the one seen leaving the crime scene. It wasn't just coincidence.
Police moved quickly. Just a few days later, they tracked
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him down outside a kymoart near Interstate seventeen and Northern Avenue.
McFarland wasn't exactly a master of deception. He had a gun, drugs,
and a needle on him at the time of his arrest,
But it was what he said when officers snapped the
handcuffs around his wrists that shook them. What took you
so long? Mcfartland was no stranger to law enforcement, and
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at first it seemed like his arrest might close the case.
But then detectives made another startling discovery. He wasn't the
only suspect. When MacFarland was picked up, police were already
looking at him for another crime, a local robbery, and
he hadn't done it alone. His accomplice was a woman
named Angelus Simpson. Simpson was quickly brought in for questioning,
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and his detective started piacing things together. A chilling pattern
began to emerge. Locals had seen Terry Neely with Angelus
Simpson on multiple occasions. They weren't just acquaintances. The two
dig drugs together, often mating outside an abandoned apartment complex
not too far from the crime scene. Was it possible
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that both Edward MacFarland and Angelas Simpson had something to
do with Terry's murder? Or had Terry trusted the wrong
person walking into something far more sinister than he ever imagined.
What detectives would soon uncover would shake them to their
very core, because Angelus Simpson wasn't just any suspect, was
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a cold blooded killer with a story so disturbing, so remorseless,
it would soon make headlines across the country. Very little
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is known about Angela Simpson's early life, but what is
clear is that she grew up in turmoil. Born on
the twenty ninth of November nineteen seventy five, she spent
much of her childhood in foster care, a system that,
rather than providing stability, subjected her to further abuse. Simpsons
experience wasn't unique. The foster care system in the United
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States is meant to provide temporary homes for children removed
from unsafe situations, yet for many it becomes a cycle
of instability. Studies have shown that around eighty percent of
children in foster care struggle with significant mental health issues,
often stemming from past trauma and neglect. Many of these
children bounced between multiple homes, never experiencing the consistency or
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support necessary for healthy development. In Simpson's case, the abuse
she endured shaped her worldview. The physical and sexual violence
she suffered in foster care left her deeply scarred. By
the age of ten, she had already been institutionalized in
various mental health facilities, diagnosed with multiple disorders that would
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follow her throughout her life.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I started being hospitalized at ten years old. I have
a mental history from ten years old till present, so yeah, as.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
She grew older, her troubled past gave way to an
adulthood marked by drug addiction, crime, and instability. She never
held a job, instead relying on robbery and sex work
to fund her drug habit. She gave birth to four children,
but they were all eventually taken from her and placed
into the custody of her biological mother. Simpton had little
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to no contact with them, further cementing her isolation from
any meaningful support system. This cycle is common among those
who age out of foster care. Studies indicate that nearly
half of foster youth become homeless within eighteen months of
leaving the system, and many turn to crime or substance
abuse as a means of survival without adequate mental health support.
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Simpson's path to violence may have felt inevitable. Her life
had been one of chaos and destruction, but nobody could
have predicted just how far she would go. With Edward
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MacFarland and Angela Simpson now behind Barrs, detectives pressed forward,
determined to uncover the truth about what happened to Terry Neely.
More statements who are collected That's when police spoke with
a man adjured a nearby apartment complex, and what he
told them changed everything. The manager recalled an unsettling conversation
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with McFarland. McFarland had bragged about the murder, saying that
he helped dispose of Terry's body, but when it came
to who actually killed him, he pointed the finger at
Angelus Simpson. According to McFarland, Simpson had done everything herself,
the torture, the murder, the dismemberment. His only role was
helping her dispose of Terry's body. But it wasn't just
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a confession, it was also a threat. McFarland warned the
manager that if he told anybody what he had heard,
he'd end up just like Terry, dead and dismembered in
a trash can. Luckily, the manager ignored the threat and
went straight to police. Armed with this new information, detective
shifted their focus to Angela Simpson's apartment. What they found
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was unsettling. Outside, sitting in the grass was Terry's motorized wheelchair.
There was no doubt now Terry had been inside that
upon apartment before he was killed. Detectives quickly obtained a
search warrant, and what they found inside was the stuff
of nightmares. The apartment was barely livable. The carpet had
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been ripped up, the walls were stained, and the space
felt more like a crime scene than a home. There
was no furniture except for a single chair and a
full length mirror scattered around where a pair of needle
nosed pliers, a gallon of great value brand bleach, and
a lot of blood. But it was the final discovery
that truly unsettled investigators. Amidst the filth and decay, they
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found the remains of a cat and a kitten. The
kitten had been cut into four pieces, just like Terry.
This wasn't just a crime of rage of opportunity. This
was something far more disturbing. Angela Simpson didn't just kill
Terry Neely. She enjoyed it, and soon she would tell
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the world exactly why she did it. It was becoming
more and more evident that Angela Simpson wasn't just involved
in Terry Neely's murder, she was the sole architect of it.
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With enough evidence pointing directly at her, detectives brought her
into the interrogation room. She sat down looked at the
detectives and made a single request. She would tell them
everything in exchange for a candy bar. The detectives obliged,
siding the candy across the table. As Simpson unwrapped it,
she smiled, and then she laughed. Three bites of chocolate.
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She confessed not just to Terry Neelly's murder, but to
every unimaginable detail of what she had done to him.
She told the detectives they had the right person. She
had acted alone. Edward MacFarland was innocent. She claimed he
had nothing to do with the murder, and it only
let her borrow his car to dispose of the body.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
So I took him to my house, walked him down
the street. I don't know why the media acts like
the motherfucker couldn't walk. He walked very well, walked him upstairs,
kicked his ass, and killed him.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
One detectives ask why she had done it. She gave
them an answer that was as chilling as it was senseless.
She believed that Terry Neely was a snitch.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
It was just too much, the things he talked about,
it was just it was too much.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Do you believe him? I mean, lots of people go
around claiming I'm a snitch or make the Really you
don't say, well, I think they may talk about that.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
I've got I know people coming, I've got associations with
law enforcement. You know I've got this.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
I'm a friend with this.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Do you happen to have a list of those.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
People they named rop? Well maybe in the circum but
you know what I'm saying. People say lots of things
to make themselves sort of.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Well, well, he picked the wrong nigger to say that too.
If he wanted to brag about putting so many people
in prison, he picked the wrong person.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
And that's what that's what did it to him.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
That's that's why what the bragging about putting people in
prison riot the people you knew?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
No, I didn't know anything.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Do you believe him? Do you think he really was
a snitch? I hoped if he wasn't.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
And in her world, snitches had to die. She said,
I don't want my children, of the people I consider family,
to be in a place where there are snitches. But
Terry Neely wasn't a snitch. He was a disabled man
who had struggled his entire life. He lived alone in
an assisted living facility. He had no real family and
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no criminal ties. He sometimes made things up to impress people,
but to Angela Simpson, that didn't matter. She said that
years ago, Terry had told her he had told on
a righteous person, and for that he had to die.
Detective sat and horrified silence as Simpson detailed every moment
of the murder. She had a lured Terry to the
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abandoned apartment, promising him sex, or she had waited for
the right moment, a tire iron hidden nearby, ready for
the attack. Then she struck. She beat Terry relentlessly until
he collapsed onto the floor, bleeding and barely conscious. But
she didn't stop there. She forced him into a chair,
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positioning him in front of a mirror. She said she
wanted him to see himself, to watch as she pulled
out his teeth one by one. When asked why she
had done that, her answer was cold and emotionless. He
needed to see what he deserved. Because Terry was disabled,
there was no escape. He couldn't run, he couldn't fight back.
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He could only sit there, trapped inside a nightmare. For
three days, Simpson kept Terry alive, torturing him in ways
almost impossible to imagine she beat him again and again,
switching between a tire arms and the hammer, and she
pulled out a three inch meal and drove it directly
into his skull. But even that wasn't enough. Simpson man
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slashed his throat and strangled him with the TV war
And only then, after days of unrelenting torture, did Terry
finally die.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Help me understand for three you know, I know the
crimes of passion or something, and you know, and in
the heat of the moment, But to spend three days
driving nails into a guy's head and pulling his teeth out?
Why I found it necessary? Did you find it pleasurable
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or exciting?
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Or was there?
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Was this just a necessary necessary? So this was more
like a business like proposition. You were doing something helped
need a job that needed to be done?
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Right, Really, Ryan, and whatever came into your head, I'm
going to drive a nail and was there? Was? This
just was a symptom of what was at hand in
that apartment.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Right, But Simpson wasn't finished yet. With zero hesitation, she
dismembered his body, packing his remains into a trash can.
Then she borrowed McFarland's car and drove to the convenant
of Grace's Church, where she sat his body on fire.
When asked if she felt guilty, Simpson's response was chilling.
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I don't feel bad about it. The only thing I
mought about is that I didn't get to kill more snitches.
But then she said something unexpected. She admitted that in
some way she was relieved to have been arrested. She
touched on her own mental health, stating, I think something's
wrong with the world I live in, but according to
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killed before. She refused to divulge any more information, but
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killed period. It was clear the Nenangela Simpson's mind, she
had become something of an enforcer, a person who had
the right to kill people she believed deserved it. The
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murder sent shockwaves through the community, in part because of
Terry Neely's vulnerabilities in the brutal way in which he
was killed. As a paraplegic who required a wheelchair for mobility,
he was part of a demographic that is disproportionately targeted
for abuse and violence. People with disabilities, particularly those living
in assisted care facilities, face a four times higher risk
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of experiencing violent crime compared to the general population. According
to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, disabled individuals, especially those
with cognitive impairments, were more likely to be victimized due
to their perceived vulnerabilities. Angela Simpson claimed that she had
killed Terry because she believed that he was a snitch.
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Raising is deeply rooted in street culture, where the idea
of informing law enforcement is often met with extreme hostility.
The note snitching mentality has long been embedded in criminal circles,
reinforced by rap lyrics, gangcodes, and fear driven environments where
speaking to the police is seen as an unforgivable betrayal.
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In many communities, even innocent individuals have been accused of
being informants and have suffered violent retribution as a result.
But Simpson's justification for her actions was particularly chilling. She
admitted that she barely knew Terry, and her belief that
he was a police informant came solely from his own words,
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words that may have been spoken in an effort to
impress her. Terry was known to be friendly and eager
to please those who knew him, described how he often
told people what they wanted to hear, sometimes embellishing stories
to make himself sound more interesting. It's entirely possible that
in a casual conversation, Terry mentioned something that led Simpson
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to believe he had once cooperated with police, But in
Simpson's mind, that was enough to warrant his brutal execution.
She said to detectives, I don't want my children, of
the people I consider family to be in a place
where there are snitches. Despite making a detailed and gruesome
confession to both detectives and reporters, Angela Simpson pleaded not
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guilty when she was officially charged on the twenty eighth
of August. She was indicted on multiple charges, including first
degree murder, kidnapping, and abandonment or concealment of a dead body. Meanwhile,
prosecutors were still deciding whether they would seek the death penalty.
County Attorney Andrew Thomas made it clear that this case
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would be pursued aggressively, stating the level of cruelty alleged
in this case is severe and we will aggressively prosecute
this case. Our office will determine in the near future
whether it's seek the death penalty for this defendant. But
Simpson wasn't the only one facing charges. Edward MacFarlane, the
man who helped dispose of Terry's body, was also indicted
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on felony charges of abandonment or concealment of a dead
body and hindering prosecution. With Simpson behind bars, detectives turned
their attention to one disturbing claim she made during her
interrogation and later during news interview, Simpson had suggested that
Terry Neely wasn't her first victim, but what's she telling
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the truth? Phoenix Police spokesperson Lewis Salmatito addressed the chilling possibility,
stating it's going to take a long time because we
don't know if she's telling us the truth or not.
They have to evaluate what she says, review some cases,
and put her at the scene, regardless of it's here
or wherever she lived at the time. Detectives launched a
(28:52):
full scale investigation, coming through unsolved cases that might match
her violent modus operandi, but despite their ad efforts, they
found no evidence that Simpson had ever killed before. Her
claims of multiple murders was just a sick and twisted lie.
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For years, there was no public updates in the case,
But then on the twenty second of March twenty twelve,
Angela Simpson returned to court and changed her play. She
pleaded guilty to the first degree murder of Terry Neely.
It was part of a play deal. In exchange for
her guilty play, the death penalty was taken off the table.
Just one month later, she was sentenced. Judge Paul mcmurdy
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handed down the harshest sentence possible, natural life in prison
for murder, with an additional fourteen years in prison for
the other charges. Natural life means no possibility of parole,
no early release, no furlough, no chance at freedom. For
Angela Simpson, prison was now her home forever. But if
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she found any remorse for what she had done, she
certainly didn't show it. In fact, she walked her own sentencing.
She had no sympathy for Terry Neely or his loved ones. Instead,
she bragged that she wished she would have kept Harry
alive longer, that you wanted to torture him for a
full week.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
And I've seeing previous interviews, and I've been with the police,
and one of our colleagues talked to you once upon
a time. You're very upfront, very much about talking about
this killing.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Right, you murdered this man. Yes, you tortured him.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Of course, there is no ambiguity, and there is nothing
you want us in court today.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
You said you're not here to pretend to be remorseful,
of course not.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Why would I do that?
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Are you remorseful?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Not at all?
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Why?
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Why would I be?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Well? Why did this man deserve to die? You claimed
he was a sam Well, what proof do you have
of that?
Speaker 1 (31:00):
He told me he was a stage She told you
on many occasions, But that really doesn't matter. Why did
you guys want to kill me. Phoenix wanted to kill me.
What's the difference. Everybody has a reason to kill My
reason might not be good to you, but your reason
wasn't good to me.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
So and her previous claims of killing multiple people, she
admitted that that was just a lie since and then
touched on her own mental health problems.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
When you say mental history, I mean did you care
that anyone feels sorry for you?
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Do you want any feel sorry for me? Yeah? You should.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Should the people who are watching this say because she
had a bad child, of course, not she had.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
As mental illness, of course not. No, we should feel
some sympathy for you. No, you would not have that.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
I want no sympathy.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Now what then? Then? Do you care what anybody thinks? No,
Angela Simpson and I don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
It's again your candor. I've interviewed people who have committed
murders before. Usually they sort of prevaricade, or they this
or that. You're about as direct as it gets.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Right. Why is that it's only fair?
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I expect you to be the same way.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Okay, do you think that it was fair today?
Speaker 3 (32:14):
It was justice in that courtroom? No?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I don't why I should have gotten the death penalty.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Do you did you want the death penalty?
Speaker 1 (32:28):
No, no, I prefer to spend my life with my sisters.
But yeah, I do believe that would have been justice.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
She also spoke about how she was being treated in gail.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
It's terrible.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Jail is awful. They don't.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
They have no well, they have no compassion. They don't
give us the things we need.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Here will be will prison to you, to your understanding,
I certainly hope.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
So you're hoping that it will be a better existence, Yes, definitely.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Sim Since she didn't think too much about her punishment.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
You know, I got a lot of family in prison,
and uh, I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that.
I got many sisters in prison. I can't wait to
see him. It's really not that much of a punishment
to be sentenced to spend my life with my family.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
But there was one thing she did regret that she
didn't get the chance to kill a second victim, an
alleged arm robber she had been targeting. She said, I
just didn't have time. I had to go somewhere. I
should have killed him when I had the go. But
perhaps the most chilling moment came when she was asked
if she would kill again without hesitation, Angela Simpson issued
(33:42):
a dark warning if the opportunity arises. I hope so well.
(34:06):
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thank you so much for listening, and I'd like to
say a massive thank you to my new supporter up
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turned out a little bit shorter than the normal episodes,
but it's such a bizarre and unique case that I
really did want to cover it. Morbidology has a private
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