Quarantine Murders: David Anthony

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enjoy what we put out for you. Yeah, we appreciate you. You
the best. So we are startinga new letter. We are on Letter
Q and we're gonna talk about quarantinemurders. We're gonna talk about cases that
have happened since the beginning of thecoronavirus. It's kind of shocking how many

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they're really are, how much hashappened. Yeah, I was like,
oh, maybe we'll be able tofind a couple. They may be short
episodes. This is a little bitof a departure for us because normally we
do cover cases that have a conclusion. We like to use cases that have
a verdict so that we're not justdiscussing something open ended. We don't really

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do unsolved or anything like that.But in all of these cases, because
of quarantine or because of like anoverwhelming amount of evidence, it's just all
signs are pointing to one person beingthe murderer. So none of these cases
are really up in the air.Let's just say that. I don't know

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if that's the right way to putit, you know, but I think
that's the right way to put it. Yeah. So, even though it's
a little bit different for us thatwe're doing cases that haven't had an actual
conviction yet, we are doing caseswhere, I mean, the people are
only isolating with a specific group ofpeople, or there's only one person that

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has access to the victim, orwhatever the case may be. So yeah,
it's a little bit of a uniquesituation. I already figured as these
come to conclusion, probably next year, we'll have verdicts in some of these,
we'll do some sort of update.Yes, absolutely we can do some
follow up, because once these casesget finished and closed and people are convicted,

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then we can kind of update you. And there's probably going to be
a little bit more information that comesout as the trials go on. So
we'll definitely follow up. And alsoI wanted to have a special little shout
out because Kristen from our Facebook pagethat you may see posting a lot of
things, she actually posted about thiscase that we're going to talk about tonight,

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and I was like so surprised,Like I didn't want to say,
oh, this is what we're covering, but I it's like, actually,
we're you know, we're going tobe talking about this because it was great
minds think alike kind of situation.So that was the first time I've ever
seen you like wrat our letter outto anybody. Usually I try and keep

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it a little secret. You know, it's all on the download until the
episode comes out, and then it'sa pleasant surprise. But I was just
so excited that she had posted aboutthe case that we were working on.
I was like, I can't holdit in. I got a spill the
beans. Basically, yeah, Christen'spaying attention. She knows what's up.
She could read our minds always.So this episode we are discussing David Anthony

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and Gretchen Anthony. So Gretchen workedfor a utility company and she was a
single mom to a young daughter thatshe shared with her ex husband. Being
a mom was just extremely important toher, and she was really really close
with her daughter. By all accounts, they were just inseparable. People described

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her as extremely positive and a verymotivating person. She was really into fitness.
She stayed healthy by doing yoga.You know those people right that are
just yoga fitness fanatics, always superhappy, just wearing a shirt with some
sort of like happy motto on it. That was Gretchen Gardening is my cardio?

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Right, Yes, that person,Yes, total gabletics lady about totally
just full of this kind of blissand exuding happiness. People just constantly talked
about how sweet and joyful she was. She was dating a fellow fitness enthusiast

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and personal trainer named David Anthony.David and Gretchen got married in Nevada in
March of twenty fifteen in a KennonBarbie setting. Like their their pictures,
I mean, come on, it'sgross, just like all the blonde hair,
all the white teeth, just thesmiles that hey fitness. Hey,

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Jim's like that meme of all theguys in the spandex danceing around like totally
them, totally them together. Yeah, very ken Kennon Barbie Aerobics or something.
Yes. They lived in Abacoa,Florida, where David worked for Orange
Theory Fitness. Jim fancy, superfancy if you're not familiar with Orange Theory.

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They're just kind of a boogie workoutplace. I don't know, They've
been popping up left and right.I feel like I've seen them around the
last five years. But it isseeming like a high end Jim. So
he wasn't just some random trainer.He had to be somewhat successful to be
working with this particular company, itseems. That's my take on it,

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or what my perception is. Right, Well, all the housewives go to
Orange Theory, so you know that'snot scale that we have, not right.
Yeah, sliding stues, yeah,no la fitness for these ladies.
So yeah, that kind of givesyou a little bit of a insight to

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their clientele. They're definitely looking forthe higher end Jim clientele, those sort
of customers that are looking for theexpensive gyms. David's former boss, Dakota
Minnervini, says that he had twosides to him, one that was really

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positive and one that was very negative. One person who took his classes said,
quote, he was a great coachto begin with, hot and cold.
You never kind of knew which Davidyou were gonna get. There would
be days when it would just belike Oh, that was the best workout

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I've ever had. And then thenext day it was like he was just
kind of acting a little strange today. That's not really what you want in
a trainer. Like, I don'tknow if you know, but I mean
you definitely want some sort of likestability in the person. You know,

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the same you know that you're gonnaget there and they're gonna be upbeat and
they're going to be excited and you'regonna enjoy working out with them, not
like, oh God, what's thisguy going through today? Yeah, stability
and consistency. You know, youneed to be able to depend on them
because they're kind of a leader.Like a trainer is someone that's leading a
group of people working out, oryou know, one person if it's a

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one on one session, you arelooking to them for guidance and you are
feeding off of their energy when you'reworking out. So if something's off with
them, the session or the classis going to be off. You know,
it's just not going to feel right. So there was plenty of times
where his classes or his sessions justdidn't feel right for the people involved.

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A co worker at Orange Theory describedDavid as quote difficult to work with and
elaborated that he didn't get along withhis colleagues. The longer he worked there,
the more aloof and irritable he became, and he even began having attendance
issues. So again, just alack of stability can't really be dependable.

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Like, clearly something's kind of decliningwith him. Over time, David's instability
and performance issues became too much forOrange theory to tolerate, so he was
let go in February of twenty twenty. This is all just coming to a
head so quickly, isn't it.Yeah, I mean, it just seems

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like things were going okay for alittle while when he was there, and
then they just went downhill, andit's like it's come to a head,
and it's at a terrible time.February of twenty twenty is not a good
time for any of your mental healthor employment issues to come to a head,
because the world's about to go toshit basically. Yeah, just about

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in a month. Everything is goingto change anyway. Yeah, bad bad
timing, which of course is acyclical thing where you know, the bad
timing of that going on makes itkind of this deeper spiral of emotional trouble
and stress, and you know,you get deeper into it because life is
more challenging. His anger issues andvolatility were also causing issues in his relationship,

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which led to David and Gretchen livingseparately then filing for divorce on February
twenty eighth, just before the coronaviruslockdowns began. So you know, early
to mid February loses his job andto February loses his wife. Yeah,

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we see these kind of things happeningwhere someone's just on this downward trajectory and
just sort of snaps. And thisis his kind of moving towards that direction
of having some difficulties controlling his emotions. Well, the immediate thing I note
is is it just seems like somebodywho picked up a drug problem couldn't handle

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it in their real life. Thelast couple months, loses his job,
wife's notice. I'm sure this wasnot a quick like I'm taking up cocaine
for a week. This is usuallysomething that builds, And just the way
they describe him, a lot ofthis sounds like uppers, downers, like
you know what I mean, He'sjust like trying to weakend warrior every day

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is what it feels. And alsolike in the industry, I'm not saying
that all you know what I mean, but there's a lot of you know,
you're gonna have a lot of personaltrainers that are very mad at you.
I know, I'm sure they are. Yeah, I'm very upset.
It really does seem like something hadchanged, and it's unclear. Maybe he

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had gotten into trouble with drugs oralcohol, Maybe he developed like a gambling
addiction or something. It does.It sounds like a hidden addiction that's coming
to really becoming a problem. I'vebeen able to kind of maintain it for
a while and then it comes toa head and now everything is falling by
the wayside to this addiction. Maybehe didn't tell anybody about what it is.

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But my investigations in true crime aswell as yours prove, you know,
we sort of maybe yeah, andnext to it exactly, there's a
question mark, there's it's speculation.I know that it's just speculation, so
we don't know if these things aretrue. But there's got to be something
going on that's causing this change inhis personality, and I think, you

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know, it could be drugs,alcohol, gambling, maybe he was cheating
and having trouble trying to hold adouble life together, you know, or
maybe there's some sort of mental healthissue that started manifesting itself. Sometimes people
are you know, perfectly normal andthen all of a sudden, this mental

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health challenge just comes up, youknow, and it's you know, he's
in his thirties. Usually it comesup a little bit earlier, but it
could have been something like that.You know that he was fine before and
then all of a sudden, there'sthese symptoms that had never existed before.
We don't know, but there's definitelya distinct change. That's the one thing

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that we can say is that everybodysaid he was this sort of person back
then, and then all of asudden he was just unstable, unreliable,
volatile, angry, all these thingsthat just point to something is wrong with
him, you know, something iswrong in his life or something with his

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brain chemistry. We just don't know. So I agree, yeah, but
it just caused everything to come crashingdown. Whatever it was, it's just
his work, his relationship are gonebecause of it. So after they separated,

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loved ones were really concerned for Gretchen. A friend said, quote,
I told Gretchen that he was offand she needed to stay away from him.
Family members tried to be supportive ofGretchen during the end of the relationship,
and they said that David quote hadissues. On Monday, March fifteenth,

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only two weeks after filing for divorceand early on in the pandemic,
David had a run in with thepolice. So David was approaching young girls
in the parking lot of a mallin Riviera Beach, Florida, around ten

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PM when officers noticed him acting erratically. Forty three year old David was reportedly
chatting up fifteen year old girls whilepacing back and forth, and they described
him as sweating profusely. Yeah,that sounds total, but it is Florida.
Could be superhuman, it could be, but I mean we're talking about

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we're talking about yeah, like thisis yeah, this is another thing that
points to possible drug addiction to me, you know, this is like one
of the red flags, right.So cops approached him and they just started
asking him questions, trying to kindof suss out what was going on with
him and his erratic behavior. Theynoticed that his license plate had been altered

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with black tape. To change asix to an eight, and when they
asked about it, David claimed thathis twelve year old daughter had done it.
David said that his daughter liked playingwith tape and had disobeyed his direction

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to not mess with his car.There's a lot of David says that.
I'm just like, that doesn't evenmake sense. Like, I know a
lot of kids, I've been arounda lot of kids. I was a
kid once in my life. Tapewas never like a toy to me,
you know what I mean. It'san office supply, it's a school supply.
It's not a toy. The factthat he would say that is just

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kind of hilarious to me. Itdoesn't make any sense. But he had
to blame something. Yeah, he'sjust an idiot, Like in this point,
I mean, it's just okay whatever. Maybe he's like really, you
know, he is good looking,so maybe he's just floated along like,
oh yeah, whatever, okay,just one of this good looking guys saying,
you know how sometimes people just allowstupid shit to come out of their

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mouths. So maybe it's something likethat where he's like, I'll just give
him the razzle dazzle and they'll justforget you know that I'm acting insane.
And by the way, the secondI see that your license plate has been
changed, sir, you're gonna justget into my car. We're not even
talking anymore. Just get in mycar, my Cruiser vehicle because we're going
downtown. It's really really I've donemy investigation. Yeah, I mean,

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that's all the evidence you need toreally say, we need to search your
car at least. Yeah, something'swrong here. Yeah. So while talking
to the police, David was stillbehaving erratically, like I said, sweating
profusely, kind of just twitching anddoing all that sort of stuff. The

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officers became concerned when he started reachinginto his car and not listening to the
police's demands to keep his hands visible, and of course, like this is
all happening really fast. They're askinghim some questions, he's trying to reach
into his car. They're yelling athim, you know, we need to

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see your hands. But it's alljust going really fast, and the situation
escalated to the point where the officersordered him to get down on the g
ound, but he didn't comply.He wasn't listening, and so they drew
their weapons on him. When theyattempted to arrest him. David was still

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struggling to retrieve a quote unknown objectfrom his car, and of course their
worst fear is this is a gunor some sort of weapon. During the
ordeal, David resisted arrest and heactually slammed his car door on the arm
of one of the officers. Davidwas charged with resisting an officer with violence,

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and he was bonded out of jailon the eighteenth of March, with
the requirement that he not leave PalmBeach County. Only two days after David
was bailed out, Gretchen was seenalive for the last time. On Friday,

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March twentieth. Co workers were calledthat she left for the weekend in
good spirits. On Saturday, Marchtwenty first, at about six fifteen am,
a Blink security system video of Gretchen'sfront door shows a very tall man

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standing there, just kind of waitinginside this screened front porch area. And
it's worth pointing out you see thistall man repeatedly in surveillance videos, and
David is in fact six foot seven. This is something that you can't lie

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your way out of either. No, he's putting that out there yeah,
yeah, So he's just hiding kindof lurking in her screened in porch,
sitting out there, lying in wait. The video shows Gretchen and stepping onto
the porch. Then somebody shouting canbe heard, as well as someone saying

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what are you doing? Around thistime, a neighbor recalls hearing a woman's
quote blood curdling screams, as wellas someone shouting no, no, it
hurts. The witness guesses that thevoices were either coming from Gretchen's front porch,

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where the video was taken, orpossibly that the noise was coming from
the garage. There was also acar that they saw backing into the driveway,
which the neighbor thought was suspicious.So the neighbor actually took a picture
of this suspicious vehicle. And thisis us. This is totally something that

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we would do, you know,like, oh yeah, this is like
this is Court's life right now.You know. You're always looking out your
window whenever I'm over there and justsnapping pictures, looking up what's going on
in the news, you know,And this is what the neighbor was doing,
is always just watching out for theneighbors and trying to see what was

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going on in the neighborhood and theytook pictures, so there's evidence of this
vehicle being there. I'm just gonnasave that one right in the you Look
Suspicious folder, right, and I'llnever come back to this album with thirty
thousand pictures in it that are justtaking up memory. But just in case
I need it from March eighteenth,twenty twenty, it's there. Absolutely better

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to have it, you know,it makes lost. But if I don't
have it when I need it,right, So this person, I mean
really, their evidence is going tobe used in this case for sure.
And they had the foresight to thinkthis is weird. This going on in
my neighborhood is suspicious enough for meto take a picture, right, Like

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we always say, look out foryour neighbors, watch what's going on,
pay attention, take care of eachother. This is one of those things
that you can do to watch outfor the people that are around you,
is if you see something going on, just take a picture. You know,
there should be like a Dundee's ceremonyjust for neighbors with a hunch.

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You got the christ Chris Wat's neighbor, that's like, something's not right.
He's right, he's notting, he'snot acting right. We got this neighbor,
We've got the neighbors and Galita.I mean, we've got all kinds.
There's so many I can think of, like just the ladies that you
know what I mean, those friendstoo that like something just wasn't right.
Yeah, they need to be sentsome sort of gift basket for their contributions

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to these cases. So there wasno noise or activity around the house throughout
the day after. This kind ofsuspicious activity happened in the early hours at
the more, but then security footagefrom the garage around midnight shows a partial

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figure on the floor, not moving. Closer examination of the video shows that
it is a blonde woman who appearsto be incapacitated or possibly deceased. Next
to the body is one of thosefive gallon big water jugs, but it

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has blood smeared around the sides ofit. Then you can see the same
tall man walk over to the cameraand the garage, lift up a gloved
hand and pull the camera down todisable. It's it's insane that this is
all just on their camera. Surreal, it's all of it, and you

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know that there's cameras inside he livedin that house, I mean he was
aware. I mean they were married. I just he knew. There's so
many instances in this case where itjust seems like he's just either not all
there and not understanding and I don'tknow there's something missing where he's just off,

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or that he wants to get caught, that he just has no foresight
into what he's doing on camera orcreating all this evidence. And of course
I don't want him to get awaywith it, but it's just so strange
because you so rarely see a crimewhere there's so much evidence and no effort

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to conceal it. Yeah. OnSunday, March twenty second, a neighbor
snapped another photo of David washing Gretchen'sblue Mini Cooper in the driveway. There's
so much more going on here becausethe neighbors are keeping up, like they're
paying attention and they're not supposed tobe together, So like, why is

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he there doing honey dues in herdriveway? Has he ever even washed her
car previously? I mean, isthis new behavior? Is this strange?
It just seems like these neighbors areon alert. Yeah. To me,
it says that either the behavior ofhim washing the car or whatever is strange
enough, or the fact that he'sjust even there at the house is strange

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enough to where they want photographic evidence. Yeah, but yeah, it's most
likely both. On Monday, Marchtwenty third, the neighbor's husband noticed water
and a chemical smell coming from Gretchen'sgarage as he was leaving for work.
Oh you know what, that neighborheard someone screaming no, no, it

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hurts and all that stuff. SoI would bet now she's like, Tom,
I just want you to know thatI heard someone scream that. So
hey, do you know you knowwhat I mean? Just like, hey,
go go over there, let gosmell. See if you can see
over the fence. You know,right right. I would send my man
over there in two seconds. Heknows it already. He'd be over there,
just like looking through fences. Heknows damn straight. You better go

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find out what the hell's going onbecause I'm not going. But I heard
it, So now you have toinvestigate that's what's going on here, because
it's like they are all all overthis property. I love it. I
love it, and without one thing. Yeah, of course, but once
they see one thing that's suspicious.It's like, well, now we've got

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to really pay attention. I'm,you know, got one eye out the
window. I'm peeking over the fence, like Wilson, I'm just on you,
you know, because they really wantto see what's going on and make
sure Gretchen's okay. And I thinkon some level, they're probably hoping they'll
just see Gretchen, you know,like if they could just see her and

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know that she's safe, and youknow, maybe David and Gretchen reconciled and
things are okay. But they're reallykeeping an eye out and really paying attention
because they know something's not right andthey're hoping Gretchen's just going to appear,
you know, but instead they keepcatching glimpses of bad signs and evidence.

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Another neighbor's security camera shows David's truckleaving the house that morning. That same
day, another neighbor says she spoketo David because he came by to pick
up his dog, and he actuallyasked her to watch Gretchen's cat while she
was in quarantine for fourteen days.On that Monday, Gretchen also didn't show

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up for work and immediately coworkers wereextremely concerned because this was not like her
to just not show up on aMonday and not call, not show up,
nothing. Her colleague Jennifer Rogers said, quote, she was at work
Friday, you know, like normal, the normal working day, and then

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Monday, the twenty third, shedidn't come to work, which was very
unlike her. She didn't call ortext or anything, she just didn't come
to work. Although her coworkers hadno communication from her, at least four
family members and friends received text messagesfrom her phone saying that she had some

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flu like symptoms. It was,of course early on in the pandemic at
this period of time, and althoughher loved ones were concerned about it,
they thought that she would be fine, and they especially thought she would be
okay because she was so healthy andfit and took such good care of herself.

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So they thought, if anyone isjust going to have a minor case
of COVID, it's gonna be Gretchen. Yeah. You remember in the beginning
of the pandemic when we were alllike doing audits of ourselves sitting there.
Can I still taste yes, okay? Can I smell yeah? I can
smell? Am I hot. Isthis simply I hate work headache or is

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this like the headache? You knowyou would walk in and just strip your
clothes off, spraying with Lisa andlike throw them out the house. You
know, just stuff that if youwere to tell someone, you know,
in twenty nineteen, they'd be like, what is wrong with you? And
then it was just like, yeah, okay, you know, maybe maybe
she's just a little sick, butshe's gonna be okay, she's gonna be
all right, you know, rightright, yeah, and yeah, there

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was a lot that we didn't know, but there was a lot of kind
of overreaction and a lot of likejust trying to figure it out and taking
extra precautions, but also a lotof emphasis on these sort of groups are
vulnerable, these sort of groups arenot. Immediately that emerged is like,
okay, elderly people have to watchout, but people that are young,

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fit, healthy, Gretchen, they'resafe, you know. So I think
people weren't too concerned at first,you know, they were like, oh,
that's that's scary because it's hits closeto home at someone I know.
But also, Gretchen's gonna make it. It's fine. She's perfectly healthy and

(32:30):
she'll just be out for a coupleof weeks and not feeling well and she'll
be back. Yeah. So itreally wasn't too much of a concern at
first, so people believed they hadno reason to worry. They thought she'd
be slightly sick, she'd recover quickly, everything would go back to normal.

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But early the next morning, onTuesday the twenty fourth, David drove Gretchen's
Mini Cooper to the hospital. Securityfootage shows him pulling the car into a
space in the parking complex, thenleaving the parking lot on foot and walking

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towards Old Dixie Highway. That samemorning, loved ones say that the text
from Gretchen's phone began to sound significantlymore concerning the tone and everything, the
severity of her case of condition orwhatnot was worse. She said that she

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was diagnosed with the coronavirus and shewas being transported from the Jupiter Medical Center
hospital to a CDC facility which wasabout sixty miles away in Bellglade for further
observation. And at this point inthe whole pandemic, if I was one

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of these people that got a textmessage that said I was going to a
CDC facility sixty miles away. Justfor everything. I would immediately just like
level one hundred, what is goingon? Wait? What are you talking
about? You know, there wasjust such a want for information, and
then just like wait, what doyou wait? Huh, it's it's just

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a lot with no background, Andit's just such a huge escalation at a
time where people don't have a lotof information about this new emerging COVID diagnosis,
Like people don't really know what's happening, how it manifests itself. So

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one day she's got minor flu likesymptoms, the next day she's being transferred
to this huge facility. I mean, I think people were starting to get
really scared, And of course youdon't know what to believe because it's early
on, so you can kind ofonly take it at face value, like,

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well, she says she's going toCDC, so that's what's happening.
It's scary, but I guess thisCOVID thing is more severe than we thought,
you know, or whatever the caseis. It just escalated from one
day to the next in a veryscary way. That Tuesday, her boss

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and co workers finally got communication fromGretchen's email. The messages sent from her
work email address said that she haddeveloped quote a low grade fever over the
weekend and awoke to shortness of breaththis morning, so she was going to
the hospital. Later emails said thatshe had a quote acute case of COVID

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nineteen. This is where it startsseeming like there's some inconsistent information. Her
coworker, Jennifer Rogers, described theemails as unusually worded, and although multiple
colleagues were receiving communication from Gretchen,something just really didn't seem right to them.

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Something was off. They could feelit. Jennifer Rogers said, quote
the language in the email was alarming. It didn't sound like her, you
know. It was very strange sincethe general consensus among her colleagues was that

(36:44):
basically something was wrong. Gretchen's bossactually decided to contact her mother and express
her concern, say, I thinksomething's going on. Maybe look into what's
going on with Gretchen. Those aregood, good friends. Yeah, people
are really looking out for her.Meanwhile, another concerned friend was contacting David

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Anthony and asking how Gretchen's doing andtrying to get an update and get some
information. David said that he hadseen her Saturday morning and she said she
just wasn't feeling very well. Sowhat she planned to do was just go
to the beach and relax and hopefullythat would help her recharge and feel better.

(37:35):
That is not what people do whenthey've had a fever and shortness of
breath and has been in a CDCunit. I mean, okay, right,
none of this is adding up,and people are starting to realize that
everybody's getting different stories, and peopleare getting stories that don't really add up,
aren't really coherent or anything. They'rejust random facts, you know,

(38:01):
the friend says. David texted hersaying quote. Then she proceeded to tell
me I should plead insanity on somebogus police charges I've been dealing with.
Haven't spoken to her since. Whyis everything? Okay? I see what
you did there, David, Buteverybody else does too. Okay. Yeah,

(38:24):
he's just people are onto him andhe's deflecting. In the text exchange,
David said he had no knowledge aboutGretchen being at a CDC facility,
but of course the friend felt likesomething wasn't right. Everybody can sense it

(38:45):
right away. The next day.With everyone feeling generally uneasy about what's going
on and confused about what the stateof Gretchen's health was and where she was
at, her family decided to contactpolice to report her missing, and they

(39:05):
requested a wellness check. Her familydid mention to police that they were concerned
that her estranged husband, David,might have something to do with her disappearance.
They described David as having quote issuesand said that his history of concerning

(39:29):
behavior made them believe he was capableof harming Gretchen. While the family was
filing a report and police were startingto investigate, on that Wednesday, March
twenty fifth, David was five hundredmiles away in Pensacola. It's much further

(39:52):
away from Palm Beach County than he'ssupposed to be. Right He's out on
bail right now. The condition isto stay local. So that's a violation
right there. David had gone toa jewelry store and he was trying to

(40:13):
sell items from a bag of women'sjewelry. He told the person that was
working at the store that his motherhad died of COVID, which is why
he was selling her jewelry. Believable, but also like really extra layered with
sad. If that's true, theyoh, we like we're in the middle

(40:36):
of the pandemic. Your mother hasdied of COVID and now you're just selling
her jewelry like it happened yesterday.Yes, it seems suspicious. It's also
just very cold, and it's alsoa very weird time where if I was
the clerk there and trying to appraisethis jewelry and stuff, I'm like,
how recently did she wear it?Like is it contemn needed? Was it

(41:00):
in her home? You know,Like there's all these concerns, But he's
just trying to be on the runget some money, and obviously he's leaving
town because he's in trouble. Laterthe jewelry would be identified, of course,

(41:24):
as belonging to Gretchen. It's reallysad to me because like Jory is
special, Like, yeah, ifit's worth something, if it's something that's
worth selling, it probably had valueto her, right. It's just something
that he sees what he can getsomething for. It could be something like

(41:45):
her great grandmother sewed this bracelet intoher dress as a child coming over on
a boat, you know what Imean. Yeah, I could have such
this huge backstory. All he canthink of is sell it right. It's
not it's not a priority. Itdoesn't matter to him. It only mattered
to her. She's no longer withus. The emotional significance, I mean,

(42:06):
even just jewelry that has no valuewhatsoever, means a lot to me
because there's a memory attached to it, you know, exactly, whether it
came from a family member or youknow, some random trip where I bought
something in a store. It remindsyou of that moment in time, you
know. And he's just heartlessly gettingrid of it and seeing what he can

(42:29):
get for it. Meanwhile, policewere looking into the story that had been
texted or emailed to various family members, friends and co workers. They were
kind of trying to chase down theinformation that had been given to all these
people and see if any of itcould be corroborated. They contacted the Jupiter

(42:54):
Medical Center and they inquired about Gretchenbeing a patient there. The hospital looked
into the records and they informed thepolice that Gretchen had not been a patient
at that hospital since two thousand andeight. They also informed police that it

(43:15):
was not their protocol for coronavirus patientsto quote get transported to a CDC approved
task force, like the text andemails from Gretchen's phone had claimed. However,
Gretchen's car was indeed found in theJupiter Medical Center parking lots. The

(43:42):
car immediately seemed suspicious because, firstof all, her purse was just sitting
on the front seats, amateur.You know, you know many things that
aren't right, Yeah, so many. Not only is it just highly unusual
for a purse to be left inthis visible spot inside a car, but

(44:07):
you know, you have to assumethat if Gretchen had indeed needed medical care
and intended to be admitted to thehospital, she would have to have her
purse with her, with all herbelongings, her ide, her insurance card,
etc. So for her to leavethe purse there, it just it

(44:29):
made no sense, especially so visible. If you go through all this to
drive the car, walk back onthe highway and whatever you did, you
take the purse or you hide it, you throw it in bush, you
break the phone, all these things. Right, he's thinking up to a
point and then he's just not thinking. No, Yeah, he's just going

(44:49):
through the motions of fairly hiding thingsand trying to figure out a way to
make his story work, like,Oh, if the car's there, they're
gonna think she's there. But it'slike, that's not I mean, all
the other evidence is pointing to thatnot being true. They can easily verify
whether she's a patient. You know, you'd have more luck putting her car

(45:10):
at the side of a random roadand having it be a mystery than pointing
the police to the hospital and havingthem be able to easily verify that she
was never there. On top ofthe surveillance video, I should say yes,
because he's also on video parking thecar there. How would you think

(45:32):
that there's just no video. Furtherinvestigation of the car revealed traces of blood
on the steering wheel as well asthe gearshift. Police then turned their attention
to Gretchen's home and neighborhood. Herneighbor informed police that on Saturday, March

(45:57):
twenty first, they had heard awoman blood curdling screams. They also heard
a woman shouting no, no,it hurt shortly after, and they re
counted all these things to the detectives. According to the neighbor, it sounded
like the yelling was coming from thepatio or the garage, and that same

(46:20):
night the neighbor also noticed a carbacking into the driveway, which they took
pictures of since it seemed odd.Again, love these neighbors, they're amazing
again. We need to pull togetherand get them a fruit basket or something.
Send them an edible arrangement. Thereyou go, they're doing the true

(46:44):
crime Lord's work, definitely. Thevehicle, of course, was later identified
as belonging to David Anthony. Detectivesalso found the surveillance videos from Gretchen's front
porch, showing the tall man seeminglyhiding and wait for someone to come out.

(47:07):
When Gretchen exited the door, youcan hear her saying what are you
doing, followed by unintelligible arguing andyelling, all caught on video. They
also discovered the garage video with abody clearly lying on the floor and then
that tall man walking towards the cameraand disabling it. The tall man,

(47:32):
of course, was later identified byneighbors as being David Anthony. Like,
the camera evidence is enough, right, it's just and then I mean do
you even need physical evidence? Right? Right? So we've got some.
They just walked away from the crimescene, like, now we don't need

(47:52):
this. We have all the video, we have multiple videos. When officers
searched the house, they found towelswith red toned stains which the killer was
attempting to clean in the washing machine. Investigators found a broken glass frame that

(48:15):
was on the stairs and glass leadingto the master bedroom. Blood spatter was
found on the walls and in themaster bedroom where there appears to have been
a struggle or assault. There werealso two bottles of cleaning solution and rags

(48:37):
from David's attempted cleanup. It's likehe didn't even try. He like used
the swiffer dry cloth that never reallycleans anything. It just swifts it around
on a puddle, yeah, andthen just moved it around and then it
just smells like wet, dirty mopwater. It's weird, you know,
like no matter what you do,but he really did not even try.

(49:00):
No, it truthfully is shocking tome because he didn't try at all.
But he tried just enough. Andthat's what kind of doesn't make sense to
me. Either flee the scene andjust leave it as is, or actually
clean it up. And of course, again, like I said, I'm

(49:22):
not trying to root for him orsay, you know, like this is
how to get away with a grimeor something. But it just seems so
strange to me that he was nottrying that hard but actually put the effort
in. You know, he couldhave fled down a day or a day
and a half earlier and just leftthings as they were, but instead he

(49:47):
did a half ass clean up.The rags were just sitting in the washing
machine but not even cleaned. Themess was just kind of pushed around,
Like you said, that's kind ofthe way to put it. It wasn't
even really cleaned up to where youcouldn't see it, and then they had
to use their lights and different techniquesto actually find evidence of blood. No,

(50:10):
it was visible, you know.He barely just pushed it around and
wiped it up. It was likea five year old cleaning up an entire
glass of milk that's billed here,let me do these two paper towels.
That's exactly what he was like.I mean, there was just a ton
of evidence and awful, awful forensicsleft there that he barely attempted to clean

(50:37):
up. But why even bother?It was so terribly done. An examination
of the garage revealed another attempted crimescene clean up, with bleach stains as
well as blood all over the floor. Again, why even bring out the

(50:59):
bleach if you're just going to leavethe blood there? I agree. A
cadaver dog who specializes in detecting thescent of decomposition indicated that it did indeed
pick up the scent of decomp insidethe home. Since Gretchen had last been

(51:20):
seen at work on Friday and neighborsreported suspicious noises and activity on Saturday,
police deduced that she had been killedon Saturday, the twenty first. The
various surveillance footage and witness statements allpoint to David Anthony, so detectives,
of course, set out to locatehim. David had fled the States,

(51:46):
and on March twenty seventh, bothhis and Gretchen's phones pained off a cell
tower in Texas. And again,I just think it's crazy that he has
her phone with him. Yes,okay, just one more thing that he's
thinking things through to try and sendtext messages from her phone, But at

(52:09):
some point the phone is going tolead to him, So how why is
he keeping the phone still? He'sYeah, it just is very it's hard
to understand his decisions and his thoughtprocess. Yes, there's a lot of

(52:30):
crimes that we talk about where youcan really follow their thought process because they're
trying to conceal it and they dothese sort of activities and actions to cover
up their tracks. And his arejust so all over the place and hard
to understand. It just doesn't makeany sense. On March thirtieth, detectives

(52:57):
were actually able to get ahold ofDavid on the phone. He said that
he had spoken to Gretchen and shehad told him the story about receiving treatment
for COVID nineteen. David said thatthe coronavirus story was actually just a cover

(53:20):
because she was actually afraid for hersafety and needed to go into hiding.
According to David, Gretchen had recentlydiscovered that her employer was committing tax fraud.
He said that she was preparing tobasically come forward as a whistleblower and

(53:43):
that she was scared that if shedidn't flee her home then some wood could
possibly come hurt her. Okay,right, Yeah, just nonsense, and
law enforcement was not buying his storyat all, and it seems like nothing
he said was adding up. Additionally, David seemed to not really have a

(54:07):
straight story, since he also broughtup that Gretchen's ex husband had forced their
children to send threatening text and voicemailsto both Gretchen and David's phones. O
good. Yeah, So not onlywas this story not very convincing or coherent,

(54:29):
but none of the facts and evidencematched up with his accounts of the
events that he said. We're goingon again. All these things are verifiable.
All these things you can corroborate ornot, So it doesn't make sense.
He's telling these stories and it's easyto debunk what he's saying. So

(54:52):
even though you know, they didn'tbelieve anything that he was saying or any
of the stories he was weaving,they were able to get some information that
was true because they did track hisphone, so during their conversation they pinned
his location and narrowed it down tothe Los Crucis area of New Mexico.

(55:19):
Another New Mexico. Always We're goingto become always the unodcast, It's always
around. The Next day, onMarch thirty first, David was out walking
his dog in Los Crucis when NewMexico State police swarmed in and apprehended him.

(55:40):
He loves this dog. Yeah,he was all about the dog.
And at least it's a story wherethe dog is safe. I hate the
troop in stories where the dog isnot, so that's no wee those one
positive thing. It was unclear wherehe was staying at the time that he
was taken into custody, but hewas found over two thousand miles away from

(56:06):
where he murdered Gretchen. I wasjust taking the dog for a walk,
right two thousand miles away. Iwalked here around Forrest Gump. Don't worry
about me. David was held inthe donia Anna County Detention Center, where
he awaited extradition back to Florida.Because of the pandemic, David was required

(56:30):
to undergo fourteen days of isolation perCOVID protocol before he was able to be
moved into gen POP. Eventually,he was extradited back to Palm Beach County
Jail. David was then charged withsecond degree murder and kidnapping. Circuit Court

(56:57):
Judge Laura Johnson sided that he wouldbe held without bail. She also ordered
him to not have any contact withthe relatives of the victim. And I'm
really grateful for that because obviously hewas involved in her daughter's life and possibly

(57:19):
could retaliate against any of her familymembers, you know, So it is
definitely really good that they were lookingout, especially for her daughter and saying
you can't call her, you can'thave contact with her. And we know,
of course that people violate these thingsall the time, but when he's
in a jail facility and they cantrack his phone calls, at least they

(57:43):
can truly hold him accountable if heviolates that. So at least her daughter
has some separation from him and doesn'thave to be contacted or worry about that.
Yes, during his court appearance,David wore a face mask and was
completely silent and expressionless. A formerco worker of David's from Orange Theory Fitness

(58:10):
said quote, I'm very shocked.Nobody would ever think that anything like this
would ever happen. Many of Gretchen'sfriends, who knew David well from all
these various social gatherings throughout the years, were completely shocked that David had harmed
Gretchen. Their friend, Casey Kaplansaid quote, when we got the call

(58:37):
Gretchen was missing, it was shocking, but then to find out David had
something to do with it. Thatwas just a gut punch. Seems like
he presented well in front of certainpeople. He was a pretty boy,

(58:57):
you know, so it was likeeasy to show up and smile and be
pretty and oh, he was sucha nice guy. You know, what
did he say? I don't know, but he was nice. Right.
So it's like I have a feelingthat the people that she really talked to
obviously knew the truth. The coworkers, but you know, like these kind
of peripheral characters in their life thatare just oh, it was so shocking
that he you know. But thenthere's a lot of people that say,

(59:20):
you know, he was hot andcold, so tells me that he was
very socially able to present. Absolutely, Yeah, that's a great assessment.
Of course, he's just just passingenough. Like you said, he could
just kind of get by on somelooks and a little bit of charm and

(59:43):
get along with people and be kindof just an amiable, nice guy.
And then all of a sudden hestarted kind of showing some cracks in that.
But not everybody saw that side ofhim because it was only people that
were around a lot. So ifhe worked you know, eight hours a
day with some people, they're gonnasee some crack showing. But these other

(01:00:04):
people that may only see him ata birthday party or a baby shower or
once a month double date or somethinglike that, they saw the good side
of him. They saw the sidethat he wanted to present. So it
was easy for him to pass.It was easy for him to just seem
like he had it together and hewas this loving husband. I agree,

(01:00:29):
there was definitely a few people thatpicked up on things not being right,
and then the other half were prettyshocked. Gretchen Anthony's daughter is now living
with her biological father. Gretchen's friendJennifer Rogers said, quote, she was

(01:00:50):
a wonderful person who didn't deserve anyof this. I just really hope that
anybody that has any information will comeforward because I feel like there's got to
be somebody that saw something. Surveillancefootage. Yeah, there's so much.
Then, there's so many neighbors andother people that already know stuff, and

(01:01:14):
I hope people continue to come forward. Yes, family and friends of Gretchen
Anthony are urging anyone with information abouther disappearance to come forward. Gretchen's body
has still not been found. MichaelBarbara from the Jupiter, Florida Police Department

(01:01:37):
said, quote, this is stillan open and very active investigation. Locating
the whereabouts of Gretchen Anthony remains ourpriority, and detectives will continue to diligently
investigate every tip and lead until wefind Gretchen. Jupiter Police Department is urging

(01:01:59):
anyone who they have any information aboutthis case to please call five six one
seven four one two two three five. So hopefully there is some information and
tips and people are still looking forher and still trying to recall what happened

(01:02:23):
or what they remember about that periodof time, and hopefully they can piece
it together and find her. Hopefullyhe did a lot of driving. It
kind of reminds me of Susan Powell, how there's like eight hundred unaccounted miles
for that. I mean, justeight hundred miles in any direction is a
long way, you know. Soit's very similar to me with this that

(01:02:46):
he's found two thousand miles away,Like he could have been moving her.
He might have just put her inone place and just been done and we
just haven't found her yet, Buthe could have been moving her you know,
you just never know. He doesn'tseem to like have any sort of
plants, so he could have youknow, who knows. I just hope
they find her. It is justreally confusing on so many levels. And

(01:03:07):
since he traveled, like you said, so far, I mean, she
could be anywhere along that two thousandmiles. But also judging from how chaotic
his cleanup was, how erratic hisbehavior was, how you know, he
really wasn't good at concealing anything.I really have hope that they will find

(01:03:30):
her. I really have hope thatbecause he made so many quote unquote mistakes,
you know, during this process,it's got to mean that she's out
there somewhere that's findable. My wordsare not working very well, but you
know what I mean. No,he was sloppy in every other aspect,

(01:03:52):
so realistically that means that he probablyjust hate to hate to say it,
but it's true. Like pulls it, Katie Anthony, right, and it's
just like ten feet away, justlike right here. You know. It's
just it's like you just have toknow not necessarily know where to look,
but also have the time and likesearch parties and stuff, you know,
and tips and information and yeah,exactly, I think, yeah, absolutely,

(01:04:17):
So, I think the probability thatyou know, there's people out there
with information and that his you know, execution of this crime was just so
erratic and disorganized that it's likely thatshe's close by. It's likely that she
will be found, and I'm reallyhoping that happens soon for them because that,

(01:04:38):
you know, will help with theclosure and moving on, and her
daughter is so young and I reallyhope that her family gets that. So
yeah, I think it's it's highlylikely and highly possible judging off of his
actions and just the way that hewent about this. And I I think

(01:05:00):
that we'll be hearing a lot ofupdates about this. Yeah, we'll definitely
circle back for this one, definitely. So that's our very first que four
quarantine case. Yeah, yep.So these are more recent. We're not
going to have any old timy casesin this letter. We want no Spanish

(01:05:23):
flue quarantine stories. No, No, We're just doing recent ones. So
yeah, I just I don't know, I'm kind of finding this letter very
interesting because I just didn't think therewas going to be a lot of information
then. I just didn't think thatthere'd be a lot of stories I knew
some things would happen, but maybelittle snippets of smaller crimes. But once

(01:05:46):
Courtney started looking into it, itwas like, oh my goodness, Like
you found a lot of stuff thatwas you know, a lot of serious
things going on, that had alot of information. So I was just
taken aback that there was so muchthat had happened. It seems like the
pandemic brought out a lot of peoplethat were kind of on the way to

(01:06:11):
snapping or everything was coming to ahead already, you know, January and
February had been horrible, and thenMarch like once these lockdowns, social distancing
jobs are being lost, family membersaren't being seen. The panic, the
hysteria, it affected people in waysthat I could never have expected. And

(01:06:31):
it feels like there were a tonof people that were already planning to murder
someone or thinking about it, andthey went, oh shit, COVID,
great idea. You know, it'sjust blame it on that. That's clearly
what David was thinking was just likeI want to get rid of her,
and here's a perfect opportunity to saythat she needs to be gone for two

(01:06:54):
weeks, so don't come looking forher. The two weeks plays a big
part in this and the other thingtoo. That's interesting. Just to a
side note, I know a goodamount of people that are personal trainers work
in gyms. A lot of peopleI know have had a really hard time
because they haven't worked since the endof February beginning of March. They've been

(01:07:15):
doing odd jobs, trying to finda job it's really hard, or having
to do stuff that they didn't wantto do, you know what I mean,
just like hustling, branching out,doing weird shit because they don't have
a job, and then like rent, family, all these other things on
top of it. And it surprisesme that we haven't had more like personal
trainers just straight freaking out, youknow what I mean. Yeah, Like

(01:07:38):
it's just an industry that, likehair salons have come back, you know,
a lot of like Disneyland is stillshut down. I mean, there's
people whose lives are just it's overnow, you know, find something else,
and the gym gyms are never goingto be the same. Yeah,
seriously, So I really feel fora lot of people that they went to

(01:08:00):
and then the next day they weregoing to see their clients at five and
it was over and all these clientsstarted dropping out, like weeks prior,
so they were struggling, like inFebruary, even just to make money,
you know, right hours were cut. Nobody was going to the gym.
They knew immediately sickness comes from thegym, you know, everybody. So
anyway, my little gym story.But it's just interesting how it all goes

(01:08:23):
together. Yeah, and that's agood point. I mean, really we've
seen, of course that so manypeople have had their mental state just extremely
challenged by the isolation and not seeingyour loved ones and the challenges that come
up with either losing a job orworrying about being sick. People that normally

(01:08:45):
have no experience with depression or anxietyare for the first time experiencing those things.
And those of us that myself alljust out myself that naturally has depression
and anxiety are just through the roof. So you take someone like you're saying,
who's used to being extremely active,running on endorphins, just NonStop,

(01:09:10):
go, go go, who's gota job that relies on people feeling safe
in a cleanly sterile environment or whatnot, suddenly have less and less clients and
then eventually close and now they're sittingstill. They can't see their loved ones.
They're not used to not being ableto work out all the time and

(01:09:31):
not having the social interaction of havingtheir clients and all these things. I
think the pandemic has hit so manypeople so hard. But I think that
it is a little bit of aunique case with people working in the fitness
industry because the activity aspect of it, the social aspect of it, the

(01:09:54):
fact that nobody feels safe going tothe gym still despite other businesses opening even
at partial capacity. It's a uniquesituation for personal trainers and people in the
fitness industry, and so definitely,you know, that could be a factor
for David Anthony. Okay, here'sanother like side thing of this is that

(01:10:15):
there's a lot of people that thereason they exercise is because they have depression,
or there's a lot of people thatquit drugs and start working out and
that becomes their outlet their addictive personalitiesand they need to do something with their
energy and time and there's nothing theycan write, so they quit drugs and
stop drinking whatever, you know,every January pick up, start working out.

(01:10:36):
And then there's some people that itworks and that becomes their outlet,
their thing, and then they don'thave it anymore, and they'll look for
other things stuff to do, touse their time, and it's just it's
energy that man. When your powersare used for good and not evil,
right, it's great. But whenyou turn it shit, you can do

(01:10:56):
a lot of damage quickly, andso you have to harness that shit.
And that's where working outcomes in.And so I feel for a lot of
people who that was their outlet andnow their outlet is I have no outlet,
you know, right? Anyway,that's my talk. Yeah, I
mean it's obviously just been extremely difficultfor so many people for so many reasons.
But each little industry or group ofpeople, each little community, each

(01:11:23):
little social group has these unique challenges. What a personal trainer goes through is
not what a person that has anoffice job is going through right now,
Yeah, like you mentioned that peopleat Disneyland are in a completely different situation
than anybody else who knows what's happeningor when every social group has their own

(01:11:47):
unique set of challenges. If you'reworking, you're out in the world,
and you feel anxious about being exposed. You and I are both working right
now. If you're furloughed or laidoff for any of those things, or
just completely fired anything, then howdo you pay your bills? There's a

(01:12:08):
stress of supporting yourself, your familywhatever. If you've got children, you
have to worry about their schooling.It's just all these different groups are affected
in different ways. And you're right, the personal trainers just have their own
unique set of circumstances. They area little cocaine us in there. It

(01:12:28):
sounds like David Anthony had some issues. Yeah, maybe he's substituting doing some
reps with doing some lines. Youknow. I really this this feels like
like you would maybe say gambling.Maybe there's some something underlying here that's all
say, I gotta get off this. That's all I'm gonna say. But
yes, please don't attack me.But yes, that is just my opinion.
And no, it really his erraticbehavior seemed to speak of some sort

(01:12:53):
of double life or something that he'shiding, you know, and whether that
be any sort of addiction or addictivebehavior or a mental health thing that he's
trying to get under control, buthe doesn't want to talk about it.
He's afraid to disclose that he's havingmental health challenges maybe you know, whatever

(01:13:14):
that is, or if he's cheatingand doesn't want to get caught. Like
something is going on where he's hidingand it's causing just some personality fragmentation.
It's just a very unique story.And I just don't recall the last time
I saw a murderer that was justso thoroughly erratic, you know, but

(01:13:42):
still somewhat lucid enough to attempt toclean up him next week because I'm okay,
no erratic, erratical key here.It just like everybody's in. Yeah,
It's just seems this one is especiallyunique because it's just this combination of

(01:14:06):
chaos and organization. He's got aplan, but it's not working. He's
got a plan, but it's justtoo chaotic and obviously just poorly thought out.
Yeah, he's trying to cover itup, but he's doing a really
bad job, you know, Likeit's both of those things all at once
throughout these entire you know, likeweek or so of trying to hide this.

(01:14:30):
Yeah. So yeah, we willbe back next week with another chaotic
quarantine story. Sounds good to me. So before we get out of here
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dot com slash murder dictionary. Youcan read more about the cases by checking
out the links to our resources,and you can get some resources for mental
health support, addiction in twelve Steps, support, anti boiling, domestic violence,

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Trevor projects, suicide hotlines, stufflike that. They are always in
our show notes and you can findthose links there every week. So I
think that's pretty much it for me. You got anything, Court, I
got nothing? All right? Yeah, I'm pretty blank too. I'm to
get out of here, I guess. So you guys have a great week.

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We'll see you next time. Takecare of yourself, stay safe in
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