April 23, 2020 • 24 mins
In this last installment of Columbine Killers, I'm going over the natal charts of Eric and Dylan as well as their compatibility.
I want to thank you all so much for tuning in and listening to Murder Is My Sign over the last year. This will be the final episode of the series as I will be taking a hiatus to pursue other creative endeavors. Kyle and I are in talks about creating a new podcast down the road but I'm growing tired of true-crime and need a break. Thank you for your understanding. Until next time, take care of yourself, and each other. And Rest. In. Peace.
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I want to thank you all so much for tuning in and listening to Murder Is My Sign over the last year. This will be the final episode of the series as I will be taking a hiatus to pursue other creative endeavors. Kyle and I are in talks about creating a new podcast down the road but I'm growing tired of true-crime and need a break. Thank you for your understanding. Until next time, take care of yourself, and each other. And Rest. In. Peace.
Music Used:
"Lightless Dawn"
"Pamgaea"
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(incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License
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This show may contain adult language andthemes. Listener discretion is advised. With
that all the way, let's startthe show. Now. You're listening to
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the Murder is My Signed podcast,the only true crime astrology podcast, and
I'm your host, Jordi Death,here to light your way through the true
crime astrology storm. And for firsttime in quite a bit, here,
I'm actually in the studio by myself. Kyle has the day off and he
is enjoying it sleeping and resting andrelaxing because he had to work a very
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long week. So I'm going toget him that time off. And really,
this is the final episode of theColumbine series, and this is the
one where I'm gonna be talking aboutastrology and compatibility and things like that.
So it's not going to be thatlong of an episode, and you know,
we're just gonna leave it at that. So all right, So we
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basically there's really not a whole lotto discuss as far as Columbine, you
know, happened. I mean,we covered the events and things like that.
I do apologize I did not doa memorial episode like I said I
was going to do. I'll behonest, guys, My head is just
not in the game anymore when it'scoming to doing this podcast, and unfortunately,
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this will probably be my last one. I know, I had a
whole series planned for this season fordoing Compatibility, but my mental health is
just too important right now to me, and given these really weird times,
I think the last thing I wantto do is true crime research. It's
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just really sucking the life out ofme. So I'm going to be going
on a hiatus after this episode.I'm not sure. I'm not sure for
how long. So I will bedeactivating my Patreon unfortunately. So thank you
to the people out there who havesupported me on Patreon. I really appreciate
it, and you know, justthank you guys so much for your support
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during this time and your understanding.Now Kyle and I are in the talks
of doing like continuing to do apodcast together. I'm not quite sure what
that will entail. I'm hoping itwill be more like conversational and you know,
kind of fun and upbeating. Wemight be talking about pop culture things
like that, because we do havea lot of similar interests as far as
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like music and movies and things likethat. We both love terrible horror movies,
so we we're kind of toying withthe idea. He's still very much
he still really wants to do something, and I wouldn't mind doing something that
was a little bit more like hearted, that was a little less scripted,
that I wouldn't have to dedicate awhole lot of time editing. But yeah,
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as far as Murders, my Signand the true crime astrology stuff,
that is on hiatus unfortunately, anddefinitely because I don't know when I'm coming
back to that this and honestly thiswas this was gonna be the last season
of the show anyways, I don'tknow where I would have gone beyond this
after doing Compatibility. Perhaps maybe downthe road I might pick it up and
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continue with the with the list ofpeople I have, But as of right
now, I'm just not in theright headspace to really bring you the material
that I want to bring you inthe quality of episodes that I'd like to
give you. So I'm just gonnabe kind of just doing my own thing.
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Don't worry about me though. Imean, this whole series on Columbine,
as I've mentioned last you know,as Kyle and I have talked,
has been a lot about about mentalhealth and taking care of yourself, and
that is so important, which iswhy I'm you know, being very transparent
with you guys as far as whyI'm going to be taking this hiatus and
why the show is going to bekind of stopping. Now. When Kyle
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and I do come back, itwill probably still be under the name of
Murder is My Sign because this isestablished. It just won't be a true
crime astrology podcast. It will probablybe in a definite series or offshoots of
Side Slice or something like that.So I'm still it's still an idea we're
kicking around. So just the bestway to stay up to date about this
(04:40):
stuff would be probably just just followme on social media, you know,
everything's at Jordy Death, or youcan always email the show directly if you
want to kind of get in touchand to see what's going on. But
yeah, that's just that's just that'swhere I'm at right now. So we'll
just kind of put a pin inthat kind of already said what I need
to say about that. So let'sjust get into the compatibility of Eric Harris
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and Dylan Klebold. So let's startwith Eric Harris. Eric was born on
April ninth, nineteen eighty one inWichita, Kansas. So this makes him
an Aries as his son's sign.His moon is in the sign of Gemini,
Mercurys is and Aries, Venus isand Aries, Mars is and Aries.
Jupiter and Libra are both in Libra. I'm Jupiter and Libra, Jupiter
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and Saturn. See you guys likeI have this whole thing like written on
from I mean, I'm still veryjust in lalaland Jupiter and Saturn are both
in the sign of Libra and they'rein retrograde. Uranus, Neptune and Pluto
are also all in retrograde, Uranusbeing in Scorpio, Neptune being in Sangitarius,
and Pluto being in Libra. Soit's very interesting that right away Eric's
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chart has a lot of fire signsand he actually five fire signs and zero
earth signs, which means that he'svery passionate, very fiery, very much
a go getter, like an actionman. Fire signs are known for their
action and also with being an Aries, that's the Rams, so they're very
stubborn and kind of I don't wantto say bullheaded, because that's a Torus
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but they're very stubborn and they're veryheadstrong. Now, also with Arias being
the first sign of the zodiac,they have that little like me first attitude
of wanting to like start things,but then not necessarily seeing them all the
way through. And also within hischart he has overall nine masculine signs,
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only one feminine sign, seven cardinal, one fixed, and two mutable.
And going back with the elements,he has five zero earth, four air,
and one water. So with thatcombination right away, it tells me
that he is very much someone whothinks with his head and its action oriented
and does not really go too deepwith his emotions or with the emotions of
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others. He doesn't really care aboutthat. And honestly, as we've kind
of talked over the series, youknow, Eric Harris was a true blue
psychopath. So crossing or connecting thosedots, I mean it makes sense that
way now, the amount of retrogradeplanets being at four now, of course,
the further out you go into theSolar system, when the plants in
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retrograde, it will be in retrogradefor a longer period of time. The
effects of it though won't be assignificant or won't be as felt as say
if Mercury or Venus was in retrograde, because they're closer to us. So
I just thought it was very interesting. I remember Ted Bundy and many of
our other serial killers that we've coveredin last season had a lot of planets
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and retrograde. So now when wego with Dylan Klebold, his birthday was
September eleventh, nineteen eighty one,and he was born in Lakewood, Colorado.
So his son is in the signof Virgo Moon's and Aquarius Mercury's and
Libra Venus and Libra Mars, andLeo Jupiter, and Libra Saturday and Libra
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Uranus, and Scorpio Neptune and SanitariusPluto, and Libra Lilith and Scorpio in
the north Norde Leo. So againwe see a lot of the same sign
kind of being represent like with Eric, who was a lot of Aries,
and with Dylan it's a lot ofLibra. So Dylan has six air signs,
only two fire signs, one earthsign, and one water sign.
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So Dylan already you can tell withall that air very much and intellectual,
very much in the head, havingthese great ideas wanting to find that balance
in life, and you know,we discussed that he struggled a lot to
find that balance and he suffered alot with depression. He has eight masculine
signs, two feminine, five cardinal, three fixed, and two mutables.
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So again a very powerful masculine energyand maybe not as much of a go
getter or action oriented as Eric was, because between the two, Eric was
very much the brains of the operationof wanting to put the whole shooting into
motion, and Dylan was more ofa yes man. So I thought that
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was a very interesting about how wekind of talked about that over the course
of the last couple of weeks,and then we can kind of see that
coming through within their chart. Now, when we combine the two charts and
we talk about their compatibility, thingsof interesting note are is that there can
be a strong attraction between these twobut in time plenty of disagreements. Each
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person can find the other selfish attimes, or two demanding or two overbearing,
regardless of their true natures. Althoughthey may feel like they belong together
in some way, it can beproblematic. Union codependency issues can most certainly
arise, and perhaps there was alittle bit of that over the course of
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their friendship. Who knows would havehappened if, say, they would have
prolonged the shooting, you know,further out, or they would have done
something different. And then another aspectis that this is likely to be a
significant relationship. There's a strong feelingof belonging to one another for better or
for worse. That keeps the twotogether. It's an excellent aspect for union.
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They are made to go well together, to understand, to appreciate,
love and complement each other. Thisis one strong indication of a significant union.
And honestly, guys, it wasa very significant union. They thought
that you know, Dylan and Eric, that those were the dynamic duo.
Those they felt such a connection toeach other. It was like them against
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the world. And that is becauseof Dylan's sun is sex telling Eric's moon
in that regard In the previous oneof the challenging aspect, Dylan's was a
squaring Eric's son. So Dylan's sonwas squaring Eric's moon. So um,
and I know I've talked about thesquares and the sextiles in the previous episode,
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So squares are challenging aspects and sexstyles or not so very Another interesting
challenging aspect is m Dylan's moon isopposing Eric's neptune. The union could be
full of illusions and disappointments. Theycould find it difficult to understand each other,
or they might feel they totally understandwhen they don't. Unfaithful unfaithfulness and
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lies can lead can be on theagenda in some cases. But if they
aim to be very clear and toclear up misunderstands quickly, they can go
around this tendency. Now, theunion was kind of like very much full
of illusions. Well, and maybethey were more so honest with each other
as far as what they wanted todo. But we discussed at length how
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much Eric would manipulate everyone, especiallyadults or his parents are those in authority
to get what he wanted. Andit's pretty clear that he was the brains
of the operation and he wanted toget what he needed out of Dylan.
One last thing of note here beforewe move on. Another challenging aspect between
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these two is that it's a verystrong passion but destructive at times. This
jealousy, possessiveness, and resentment arevery possible if the relationship ends. It
is difficult to remain friends as oneperson feels burned. Well, you know
they were friends until the end andthen they both killed themselves. So yeah,
difficult to marine friends. So allright, let's talk about their individual
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birthdays. He's in the birthday encyclopediaagain. Let's start with mister Eric So
being born on April ninth for hischaracter. So right now, I'm actually
referring to three sixty five birthdays interpretedfrom Michelle Knight. I'll be getting to
the birth encyclopedia here in just asecond. So the character of people who
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have birthdays on April ninth, they'reover the top and overwhelming. You have
a strong you have a huge personalityand our party animal. You love to
have a good time and have aremarkable capacity for working complaining hard. You
need to relax as this overindulgence maycause health problems. You aim to keep
it fit. You aim to keepfit, but need to match your diet
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with your exercise and then life path. You have to win in all battles
and can be aggressive. Be verycareful of outbursts of rage. Your anger
passes quickly, but others may holda grudge. You are easily led to
be led into passionate liaisons and youjust stop and think before you And that's
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another trait for arias in general isthat you know they are a fire sign.
So they do tend to have abit of a temper and they can
be a bit of a short fuseas well. So when we consult the
birthday encyclopedia for those born on Aprilnight, that is the birthday of the
whirlwind, their greatest challenge is knowingwhen to stop. The way forward is
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to understand that stopping yourself when youwant to, when you still want more,
is the way to keep desire andmotivation alive. Over and dug over
indulgence simply kills it. These peopleoften have a strong personality and don't like
to be in a subservient position intheir professional life. Their understanding of what
people need can make them accurate predictorsof social trends. They have the ability
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to turn their ideas into reality,and by doing so, they not only
enriched the lives of others, butcan also profit themselves. Others often seduced
by their charm, although some findtheir outspokenness somewhat excessive. They have to
win every argument, often somewhat bluntly, and they do, and they also
don't take kindly to criticism, regardingany such comment as a form of betrayal.
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And I know we touched on thatnumerous times throughout the series that for
any little slight, any little comment, Eric would just go off like a
switch and it would just flip andhe would become erratic and just go after
people, or they would suddenly beon his list and he would publish his
list on his website of people hewanted to kill or people that he hated.
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So this whole personality of him,with his astrology and birth charts very
much seemed to be going hand inhand. On the dark side, those
born in April ninth are excessive,reckless, and unreliable, but at their
best, they were energetic, boldand progressive. And I'm sure he had
a lot of energy, and obviouslyhe was very bold with his actions and
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his way of thinking his ideology,and unfortunately he just used it for the
wrong things. He was so wrappedup in his own psychosis and his own
negative thoughts, feelings, whatever,that it just was incredibly destructive. So
let's turn over to Dylan then.Now, as we know, virgos are
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earth signs and the sign of theVirgin. So for consulting the three sixty
five book right now, so forthe character of those born in September eleventh.
You may sit in a cocoon formany years hatching plans of how you
can transform yourself and the world atlarge as you law. As long as
you mix with people who don't haveyour depth or potential, you are lulled
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into the false idea that life justticks along. At some point or another,
your life will suddenly take off ina way that exceeds even your own
expectations, making you realize that youhave wings and can indeed fly. The
life path is you were born undera very special number, as eleven is
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a master number. This means thatyou are among a small percentage of people
who have magic within them. You'recapable of great deeds and will never really
be totally happy until you do somethingmagnificent with your life. Great things are
so much easier for you to achievethan you realize, so dream it and
do it. It's again tragic inthe way that you know Dylan with his
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depression and that crystallizing into the aggressionand anger by following Eric into this massacre.
It's just so tragic because had heagain transformed this energy into something more
productive, if he would have takenhis real bilitation with counseling seriously. Now,
I know we said that Eric wason like zoloft and into pressance.
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I never was really said that Dylanwas, and I don't believe he was.
But had he, you know,actually gotten the help that he really
truly needed, and I know hisparents did try but it just didn't stick.
It was like teflon. One couldhope that he would have been able
to turn his life around again.Were we are assuming we're storytelling here,
as we do with so many otherpeople. But it is indeed tragic the
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with what happened with both of them. Now, Eric is the true blue
psychopath here, so it's uncertain tosay if he would have ever changed.
It's uncertain to say if you know, the psychosis would have just continued to
grow. And if it wouldn't havebeen like a mass murder like he did
in the school, perhaps he wouldhave been a serial killer. Again,
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who's to say, we're we're I'mspitballing here, But all right, so
now let's consult the encyclopedia the birthdayendCyclopedia, So those born on September eleventh,
which you know, if you havethat birthday and September, my heart
does go out to you because obviouslyit must be a very hard day to
celebrate given what has happened, especiallyif you're an American. So September eleventh
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is the birthday of the radical idealist. Your greatest challenge is to avoid becoming
fixated on one issue, and theway forward is to understand that a balanced
workload and approach is a far moreeffective and rewarding, healthy way to deal
with life. And you know,for as depressed as Dylan was when he
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would write in his journal, hewould write about love and wanting love and
to be loved and to love thisgirlless woman that he called Harriet in his
journal, and that's all he wantedin return. So he really became fixated
on that issue, and then hefelt like he was oh the world because
when he felt that he would notever receive that love, it would soon
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turn to hate. People born onSeptember eleventh think independently and clearly, and
they will often shock or surprise otherswith their unconventional views. As well as
being fiercely opinionated, they're also incrediblycompassionate, and their urge to help others
may be so strong that it maytake a radical form, either by passionately
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defending traditional views or by defiantly rebellingagainst them. Whatever position they choose to
defend, they will defend it passionatelyor take risks to prove their conviction.
They can sometimes come across as extremelyserious or critical. But behind this outward
show of boldness and courage, thereis also a part of them that loans
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for stability or an authority figure toguide them, and I believe that for
Dylan this authority figure was absolutely Eric. In this regard of guiding, there
may there may often be a silentbattle or conflict going on within themselves that
manifests itself in sudden mood swings orintense highs followed by intense lows, which
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manifested for Dylan as his depression.So again a very interesting aspect about how
everything we've covered previously with the youknow, the psychological profile of both of
them, and then their astrological profileor nail charts kind of basically mirroring that.
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And you know, obviously if you'relistening to this podcast, you might
have some sort of belief in astrology, so but if you don't, you
know that that's okay too. Soagain, a very interesting aspect as far
as how those things sing to havealigned with what we had talked about.
So that's all I got for youguys today, and again I just want
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to thank you guys so much foryour support of the show and also for
your understanding of me taking some timeand just kind of focusing on other things.
Don't worry about me though, LikeI said, I am. I'm
definitely much taking care of myself duringyou know, this whole shut down,
this whole sheltering at place. I'vebeen marathoning Zena Orrior Princess and Buffy the
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Vampire Slayer, as well as crossstitching quite extensively. So that's kind of
where I've been at right now.Definitely, the podcast has been on the
back burner for me, and Ijust I want to go on a different
direction. I want to do somethingthat's a little lighter, a little bit
more upbeat. I'm really burnt outwith this whole true crime thing, and
I hope you guys can understand andappreciate that. So I hope you guys
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are also taking care of yourself andyou know, don't feel free to reach
out. I would always love tohear from you guys to check in.
You can catch me on Twitter,Instagram, Facebook, YouTube all at Jordi
Death. That's jo Rdi Death.I am kind of bouncing back and forth
a little bit. I have beentaking a little bit of hiatus from social
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media too, just because with allthe false information and the negativity, just
you guys. I'm sure you guysget it. It just wears you down,
you know, But at the endof the day, it's really just
important that you take care of yourself. You take the steps necessary to make
sure that your your balance in lifeis healthy, and you know, you're
just doing whatever you can. Andif you're struggling, you know, as
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I said in the last episode,as Colin and I both said, there
are resources out there for you.The Suicide Hotline, you can google your
local municipality for free mental health resources. A lot of counselors are doing either
video conferencing or phone conferencing. Andyou know, that's what my mom's been
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doing for the last about month orso, since we've done the whole shelter
in place, so and it's beenvery beneficial for her clients. So there's
always something out there for you guysneeding to know that you are very much
needed and wanted and your feelings arevalid, and it's just a really weird
time, you know. Until nexttime, guys, take care of your
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self and each other and rest inpeace.
This show may contain adult language andthemes. Listener discretion is advised. With
that all the way, let's startthe show. Now. You're listening to
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the Murder is My Signed podcast,the only true crime astrology podcast, and
I'm your host, Jordi Death,here to light your way through the true
crime astrology storm. And for firsttime in quite a bit, here,
I'm actually in the studio by myself. Kyle has the day off and he
is enjoying it sleeping and resting andrelaxing because he had to work a very
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long week. So I'm going toget him that time off. And really,
this is the final episode of theColumbine series, and this is the
one where I'm gonna be talking aboutastrology and compatibility and things like that.
So it's not going to be thatlong of an episode, and you know,
we're just gonna leave it at that. So all right, So we
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basically there's really not a whole lotto discuss as far as Columbine, you
know, happened. I mean,we covered the events and things like that.
I do apologize I did not doa memorial episode like I said I
was going to do. I'll behonest, guys, My head is just
not in the game anymore when it'scoming to doing this podcast, and unfortunately,
(01:46):
this will probably be my last one. I know, I had a
whole series planned for this season fordoing Compatibility, but my mental health is
just too important right now to me, and given these really weird times,
I think the last thing I wantto do is true crime research. It's
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just really sucking the life out ofme. So I'm going to be going
on a hiatus after this episode.I'm not sure. I'm not sure for
how long. So I will bedeactivating my Patreon unfortunately. So thank you
to the people out there who havesupported me on Patreon. I really appreciate
it, and you know, justthank you guys so much for your support
(02:30):
during this time and your understanding.Now Kyle and I are in the talks
of doing like continuing to do apodcast together. I'm not quite sure what
that will entail. I'm hoping itwill be more like conversational and you know,
kind of fun and upbeating. Wemight be talking about pop culture things
like that, because we do havea lot of similar interests as far as
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like music and movies and things likethat. We both love terrible horror movies,
so we we're kind of toying withthe idea. He's still very much
he still really wants to do something, and I wouldn't mind doing something that
was a little bit more like hearted, that was a little less scripted,
that I wouldn't have to dedicate awhole lot of time editing. But yeah,
(03:13):
as far as Murders, my Signand the true crime astrology stuff,
that is on hiatus unfortunately, anddefinitely because I don't know when I'm coming
back to that this and honestly thiswas this was gonna be the last season
of the show anyways, I don'tknow where I would have gone beyond this
after doing Compatibility. Perhaps maybe downthe road I might pick it up and
(03:35):
continue with the with the list ofpeople I have, But as of right
now, I'm just not in theright headspace to really bring you the material
that I want to bring you inthe quality of episodes that I'd like to
give you. So I'm just gonnabe kind of just doing my own thing.
(03:58):
Don't worry about me though. Imean, this whole series on Columbine,
as I've mentioned last you know,as Kyle and I have talked,
has been a lot about about mentalhealth and taking care of yourself, and
that is so important, which iswhy I'm you know, being very transparent
with you guys as far as whyI'm going to be taking this hiatus and
why the show is going to bekind of stopping. Now. When Kyle
(04:18):
and I do come back, itwill probably still be under the name of
Murder is My Sign because this isestablished. It just won't be a true
crime astrology podcast. It will probablybe in a definite series or offshoots of
Side Slice or something like that.So I'm still it's still an idea we're
kicking around. So just the bestway to stay up to date about this
(04:40):
stuff would be probably just just followme on social media, you know,
everything's at Jordy Death, or youcan always email the show directly if you
want to kind of get in touchand to see what's going on. But
yeah, that's just that's just that'swhere I'm at right now. So we'll
just kind of put a pin inthat kind of already said what I need
to say about that. So let'sjust get into the compatibility of Eric Harris
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and Dylan Klebold. So let's startwith Eric Harris. Eric was born on
April ninth, nineteen eighty one inWichita, Kansas. So this makes him
an Aries as his son's sign.His moon is in the sign of Gemini,
Mercurys is and Aries, Venus isand Aries, Mars is and Aries.
Jupiter and Libra are both in Libra. I'm Jupiter and Libra, Jupiter
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and Saturn. See you guys likeI have this whole thing like written on
from I mean, I'm still veryjust in lalaland Jupiter and Saturn are both
in the sign of Libra and they'rein retrograde. Uranus, Neptune and Pluto
are also all in retrograde, Uranusbeing in Scorpio, Neptune being in Sangitarius,
and Pluto being in Libra. Soit's very interesting that right away Eric's
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chart has a lot of fire signsand he actually five fire signs and zero
earth signs, which means that he'svery passionate, very fiery, very much
a go getter, like an actionman. Fire signs are known for their
action and also with being an Aries, that's the Rams, so they're very
stubborn and kind of I don't wantto say bullheaded, because that's a Torus
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but they're very stubborn and they're veryheadstrong. Now, also with Arias being
the first sign of the zodiac,they have that little like me first attitude
of wanting to like start things,but then not necessarily seeing them all the
way through. And also within hischart he has overall nine masculine signs,
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only one feminine sign, seven cardinal, one fixed, and two mutable.
And going back with the elements,he has five zero earth, four air,
and one water. So with thatcombination right away, it tells me
that he is very much someone whothinks with his head and its action oriented
and does not really go too deepwith his emotions or with the emotions of
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others. He doesn't really care aboutthat. And honestly, as we've kind
of talked over the series, youknow, Eric Harris was a true blue
psychopath. So crossing or connecting thosedots, I mean it makes sense that
way now, the amount of retrogradeplanets being at four now, of course,
the further out you go into theSolar system, when the plants in
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retrograde, it will be in retrogradefor a longer period of time. The
effects of it though won't be assignificant or won't be as felt as say
if Mercury or Venus was in retrograde, because they're closer to us. So
I just thought it was very interesting. I remember Ted Bundy and many of
our other serial killers that we've coveredin last season had a lot of planets
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and retrograde. So now when wego with Dylan Klebold, his birthday was
September eleventh, nineteen eighty one,and he was born in Lakewood, Colorado.
So his son is in the signof Virgo Moon's and Aquarius Mercury's and
Libra Venus and Libra Mars, andLeo Jupiter, and Libra Saturday and Libra
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Uranus, and Scorpio Neptune and SanitariusPluto, and Libra Lilith and Scorpio in
the north Norde Leo. So againwe see a lot of the same sign
kind of being represent like with Eric, who was a lot of Aries,
and with Dylan it's a lot ofLibra. So Dylan has six air signs,
only two fire signs, one earthsign, and one water sign.
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So Dylan already you can tell withall that air very much and intellectual,
very much in the head, havingthese great ideas wanting to find that balance
in life, and you know,we discussed that he struggled a lot to
find that balance and he suffered alot with depression. He has eight masculine
signs, two feminine, five cardinal, three fixed, and two mutables.
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So again a very powerful masculine energyand maybe not as much of a go
getter or action oriented as Eric was, because between the two, Eric was
very much the brains of the operationof wanting to put the whole shooting into
motion, and Dylan was more ofa yes man. So I thought that
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was a very interesting about how wekind of talked about that over the course
of the last couple of weeks,and then we can kind of see that
coming through within their chart. Now, when we combine the two charts and
we talk about their compatibility, thingsof interesting note are is that there can
be a strong attraction between these twobut in time plenty of disagreements. Each
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person can find the other selfish attimes, or two demanding or two overbearing,
regardless of their true natures. Althoughthey may feel like they belong together
in some way, it can beproblematic. Union codependency issues can most certainly
arise, and perhaps there was alittle bit of that over the course of
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their friendship. Who knows would havehappened if, say, they would have
prolonged the shooting, you know,further out, or they would have done
something different. And then another aspectis that this is likely to be a
significant relationship. There's a strong feelingof belonging to one another for better or
for worse. That keeps the twotogether. It's an excellent aspect for union.
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They are made to go well together, to understand, to appreciate,
love and complement each other. Thisis one strong indication of a significant union.
And honestly, guys, it wasa very significant union. They thought
that you know, Dylan and Eric, that those were the dynamic duo.
Those they felt such a connection toeach other. It was like them against
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the world. And that is becauseof Dylan's sun is sex telling Eric's moon
in that regard In the previous oneof the challenging aspect, Dylan's was a
squaring Eric's son. So Dylan's sonwas squaring Eric's moon. So um,
and I know I've talked about thesquares and the sextiles in the previous episode,
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So squares are challenging aspects and sexstyles or not so very Another interesting
challenging aspect is m Dylan's moon isopposing Eric's neptune. The union could be
full of illusions and disappointments. Theycould find it difficult to understand each other,
or they might feel they totally understandwhen they don't. Unfaithful unfaithfulness and
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lies can lead can be on theagenda in some cases. But if they
aim to be very clear and toclear up misunderstands quickly, they can go
around this tendency. Now, theunion was kind of like very much full
of illusions. Well, and maybethey were more so honest with each other
as far as what they wanted todo. But we discussed at length how
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much Eric would manipulate everyone, especiallyadults or his parents are those in authority
to get what he wanted. Andit's pretty clear that he was the brains
of the operation and he wanted toget what he needed out of Dylan.
One last thing of note here beforewe move on. Another challenging aspect between
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these two is that it's a verystrong passion but destructive at times. This
jealousy, possessiveness, and resentment arevery possible if the relationship ends. It
is difficult to remain friends as oneperson feels burned. Well, you know
they were friends until the end andthen they both killed themselves. So yeah,
difficult to marine friends. So allright, let's talk about their individual
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birthdays. He's in the birthday encyclopediaagain. Let's start with mister Eric So
being born on April ninth for hischaracter. So right now, I'm actually
referring to three sixty five birthdays interpretedfrom Michelle Knight. I'll be getting to
the birth encyclopedia here in just asecond. So the character of people who
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have birthdays on April ninth, they'reover the top and overwhelming. You have
a strong you have a huge personalityand our party animal. You love to
have a good time and have aremarkable capacity for working complaining hard. You
need to relax as this overindulgence maycause health problems. You aim to keep
it fit. You aim to keepfit, but need to match your diet
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with your exercise and then life path. You have to win in all battles
and can be aggressive. Be verycareful of outbursts of rage. Your anger
passes quickly, but others may holda grudge. You are easily led to
be led into passionate liaisons and youjust stop and think before you And that's
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another trait for arias in general isthat you know they are a fire sign.
So they do tend to have abit of a temper and they can
be a bit of a short fuseas well. So when we consult the
birthday encyclopedia for those born on Aprilnight, that is the birthday of the
whirlwind, their greatest challenge is knowingwhen to stop. The way forward is
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to understand that stopping yourself when youwant to, when you still want more,
is the way to keep desire andmotivation alive. Over and dug over
indulgence simply kills it. These peopleoften have a strong personality and don't like
to be in a subservient position intheir professional life. Their understanding of what
people need can make them accurate predictorsof social trends. They have the ability
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to turn their ideas into reality,and by doing so, they not only
enriched the lives of others, butcan also profit themselves. Others often seduced
by their charm, although some findtheir outspokenness somewhat excessive. They have to
win every argument, often somewhat bluntly, and they do, and they also
don't take kindly to criticism, regardingany such comment as a form of betrayal.
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And I know we touched on thatnumerous times throughout the series that for
any little slight, any little comment, Eric would just go off like a
switch and it would just flip andhe would become erratic and just go after
people, or they would suddenly beon his list and he would publish his
list on his website of people hewanted to kill or people that he hated.
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So this whole personality of him,with his astrology and birth charts very
much seemed to be going hand inhand. On the dark side, those
born in April ninth are excessive,reckless, and unreliable, but at their
best, they were energetic, boldand progressive. And I'm sure he had
a lot of energy, and obviouslyhe was very bold with his actions and
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his way of thinking his ideology,and unfortunately he just used it for the
wrong things. He was so wrappedup in his own psychosis and his own
negative thoughts, feelings, whatever,that it just was incredibly destructive. So
let's turn over to Dylan then.Now, as we know, virgos are
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earth signs and the sign of theVirgin. So for consulting the three sixty
five book right now, so forthe character of those born in September eleventh.
You may sit in a cocoon formany years hatching plans of how you
can transform yourself and the world atlarge as you law. As long as
you mix with people who don't haveyour depth or potential, you are lulled
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into the false idea that life justticks along. At some point or another,
your life will suddenly take off ina way that exceeds even your own
expectations, making you realize that youhave wings and can indeed fly. The
life path is you were born undera very special number, as eleven is
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a master number. This means thatyou are among a small percentage of people
who have magic within them. You'recapable of great deeds and will never really
be totally happy until you do somethingmagnificent with your life. Great things are
so much easier for you to achievethan you realize, so dream it and
do it. It's again tragic inthe way that you know Dylan with his
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depression and that crystallizing into the aggressionand anger by following Eric into this massacre.
It's just so tragic because had heagain transformed this energy into something more
productive, if he would have takenhis real bilitation with counseling seriously. Now,
I know we said that Eric wason like zoloft and into pressance.
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I never was really said that Dylanwas, and I don't believe he was.
But had he, you know,actually gotten the help that he really
truly needed, and I know hisparents did try but it just didn't stick.
It was like teflon. One couldhope that he would have been able
to turn his life around again.Were we are assuming we're storytelling here,
as we do with so many otherpeople. But it is indeed tragic the
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with what happened with both of them. Now, Eric is the true blue
psychopath here, so it's uncertain tosay if he would have ever changed.
It's uncertain to say if you know, the psychosis would have just continued to
grow. And if it wouldn't havebeen like a mass murder like he did
in the school, perhaps he wouldhave been a serial killer. Again,
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who's to say, we're we're I'mspitballing here, But all right, so
now let's consult the encyclopedia the birthdayendCyclopedia, So those born on September eleventh,
which you know, if you havethat birthday and September, my heart
does go out to you because obviouslyit must be a very hard day to
celebrate given what has happened, especiallyif you're an American. So September eleventh
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is the birthday of the radical idealist. Your greatest challenge is to avoid becoming
fixated on one issue, and theway forward is to understand that a balanced
workload and approach is a far moreeffective and rewarding, healthy way to deal
with life. And you know,for as depressed as Dylan was when he
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would write in his journal, hewould write about love and wanting love and
to be loved and to love thisgirlless woman that he called Harriet in his
journal, and that's all he wantedin return. So he really became fixated
on that issue, and then hefelt like he was oh the world because
when he felt that he would notever receive that love, it would soon
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turn to hate. People born onSeptember eleventh think independently and clearly, and
they will often shock or surprise otherswith their unconventional views. As well as
being fiercely opinionated, they're also incrediblycompassionate, and their urge to help others
may be so strong that it maytake a radical form, either by passionately
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defending traditional views or by defiantly rebellingagainst them. Whatever position they choose to
defend, they will defend it passionatelyor take risks to prove their conviction.
They can sometimes come across as extremelyserious or critical. But behind this outward
show of boldness and courage, thereis also a part of them that loans
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for stability or an authority figure toguide them, and I believe that for
Dylan this authority figure was absolutely Eric. In this regard of guiding, there
may there may often be a silentbattle or conflict going on within themselves that
manifests itself in sudden mood swings orintense highs followed by intense lows, which
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manifested for Dylan as his depression.So again a very interesting aspect about how
everything we've covered previously with the youknow, the psychological profile of both of
them, and then their astrological profileor nail charts kind of basically mirroring that.
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And you know, obviously if you'relistening to this podcast, you might
have some sort of belief in astrology, so but if you don't, you
know that that's okay too. Soagain, a very interesting aspect as far
as how those things sing to havealigned with what we had talked about.
So that's all I got for youguys today, and again I just want
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to thank you guys so much foryour support of the show and also for
your understanding of me taking some timeand just kind of focusing on other things.
Don't worry about me though, LikeI said, I am. I'm
definitely much taking care of myself duringyou know, this whole shut down,
this whole sheltering at place. I'vebeen marathoning Zena Orrior Princess and Buffy the
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Vampire Slayer, as well as crossstitching quite extensively. So that's kind of
where I've been at right now.Definitely, the podcast has been on the
back burner for me, and Ijust I want to go on a different
direction. I want to do somethingthat's a little lighter, a little bit
more upbeat. I'm really burnt outwith this whole true crime thing, and
I hope you guys can understand andappreciate that. So I hope you guys
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are also taking care of yourself andyou know, don't feel free to reach
out. I would always love tohear from you guys to check in.
You can catch me on Twitter,Instagram, Facebook, YouTube all at Jordi
Death. That's jo Rdi Death.I am kind of bouncing back and forth
a little bit. I have beentaking a little bit of hiatus from social
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media too, just because with allthe false information and the negativity, just
you guys. I'm sure you guysget it. It just wears you down,
you know, But at the endof the day, it's really just
important that you take care of yourself. You take the steps necessary to make
sure that your your balance in lifeis healthy, and you know, you're
just doing whatever you can. Andif you're struggling, you know, as
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I said in the last episode,as Colin and I both said, there
are resources out there for you.The Suicide Hotline, you can google your
local municipality for free mental health resources. A lot of counselors are doing either
video conferencing or phone conferencing. Andyou know, that's what my mom's been
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doing for the last about month orso, since we've done the whole shelter
in place, so and it's beenvery beneficial for her clients. So there's
always something out there for you guysneeding to know that you are very much
needed and wanted and your feelings arevalid, and it's just a really weird
time, you know. Until nexttime, guys, take care of your
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self and each other and rest inpeace.
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