August 27, 2024 • 34 mins
Today we complete our interview with the sync-artist, creative, and mentor, Jared Oluwa. We examine his two year rule strategy, discuss how his biggest placement to date came about, and share the value of joining organizations that align with your passions.
“I've been without money and felt like i've had all the money and had all the money and felt I had no money and wasn’t happy” - Jared Oluwa
Jared Oluwa is a 35 year old artist from Los Angeles who is an instrumentalist and vocal producer. Growing up in a musical family, he tends to work closely with his youngest brother (Beats MadeByFresh) who plays a big part in instrumentation. Together, they have landed placements on BET, VHI, MTV and many more.
Aside from music, Jared has always had a heart to share his knowledge with the Creative Community. Some of the organizations he volunteers with are Lawndale High School, Youth Mentoring Connection, Music Forward & the GrammyU Program as a mentor. In 2021, he joined the LA Recording Academy where he became involved in Advocacy and served on the Professional Development Committee.
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“I've been without money and felt like i've had all the money and had all the money and felt I had no money and wasn’t happy” - Jared Oluwa
Jared Oluwa is a 35 year old artist from Los Angeles who is an instrumentalist and vocal producer. Growing up in a musical family, he tends to work closely with his youngest brother (Beats MadeByFresh) who plays a big part in instrumentation. Together, they have landed placements on BET, VHI, MTV and many more.
Aside from music, Jared has always had a heart to share his knowledge with the Creative Community. Some of the organizations he volunteers with are Lawndale High School, Youth Mentoring Connection, Music Forward & the GrammyU Program as a mentor. In 2021, he joined the LA Recording Academy where he became involved in Advocacy and served on the Professional Development Committee.
/ jared-oluwa-006912123 @jaredoluwa https://www.musicianstipjar.com/
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/musicians-tip-jar--4698023/support.
Visit MusiciansTipJar.com for more resources and tools to empower your financial journey.
Intro & Outro Music Donated by: The Magi https://www.themagimusic.com
Intro Read by: David “DJ” Lee of The Magi
https://soundcloud.com/rockababyrock
Pictures by: Kit Chalberg https://kitchalberg.com/
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the show that explores the methods and strategies
on rocking the financial side of your music business. With
over forty years combined experience, here are your hosts, Chris
Webb and Dave Tampkin.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome to Musicians Tip Jar, where we talk about musicians
and money. Where we love finding ways to simplify the
rules to make our efforts towards success easier and clearer.
I'm Chris Webb, joined by my co host and the
consistent voice of clarity, Dave Tampkin.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Thanks for having me Backcress. I'm not sure if my
voice is too clear for this episode. Too many nights
singing out till two am, and we'll just try to
get through it the best he can.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, you got to talk more up here.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Yeah, I don't know if my voice is gonna crack.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Nothing wrong with the high voice, Dave, No, there is it.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
I wish I had a higher voice, honestly.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Today we complete our interview with sync artists creative and
mentor Jared Alua. We examined his two year rule strategy,
discuss how his biggest placement to date came about, and
share the value of joining organizations that align with your passions.
Today's quote comes from our guest Jared. He said, I've
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been without money and felt like I've had all the
money and had all the money, and felt like I
had no money and wasn't even happy.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
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Speaker 2 (01:50):
Jared Alua is thirty five year old out of Los Angeles.
He is an instrumentalist and a vocal producer. He grew
up in a musical family, and he tends to work
closely with his youngest brother, Beats Made by Fresh. Together,
they've landed placements on beet, VH one, MTV, and many more.
Aside from music, Jared has also had the heart and
to share his knowledge with the creative community. Some of
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the organizations he volunteers with include Youth Mentoring Connection, Music
Forward Grammy You program as a mentor as well. In
twenty twenty one, he joined the LA Recording Academy, where
he became involved in the advocacy and served in the
professional development Committee. We really enjoy chatting with Jared. He's
so fun to hang out with, and I hope that
you get a lot out of his experience and his insights. Well,
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let's go.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
I have this two year window where it's just like,
if I want something, I have to work at it
consistently and we imagine or redo two years of it,
and if it doesn't work, I tried it, you know.
So like if you want to be like, okay, I
want to be an entrepreneur and I have to scale
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and make profit, Okay, give yourself two years of figuring
it out, doing the work, researching, interning, working, so you
can understand what you're doing from a ground level, and
then go hit the work. If it doesn't work within
two years, what did you learn? And if you didn't
hit any success within that two years, maybe try something else.
Because if you're doing it and you're like actually revolving
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in things of that nature within that two years, something's
got to hit.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
It has to what you're saying in there. That I
think a lot of people miss is that the things
like interning, the things like actually getting into the community
that is doing what it is you're trying to do
is such a critical piece right to giving it full
two years of or a real go at it. Right.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
Yeah, whatever age you're at, thirty forty fifty, some people
think that I'm too old to intern.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
It's just like interning is just only to help you
elevate and propel you to the next level. Right now.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
You might look weird and corny for you know, doing
free work, but you're getting education that's going to be
an amount of money that you really can't put an
amount on because you're getting information that you can give
to the masses. And not only that for the people's
for yourself. Like we mentioned earlier, like you know what
we're saying to other people, we also had to listen
to it ourselves. And so learning it never stops. That's
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never been a corny thing. It's only for people who
don't have it that thinks it's corny.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
And being a young intern implicates that what you're doing
is what you have to do for the rest of
your life because you're young just learning this one thing.
So if you're always learning something new, the age of
an intern does not matter, because if anything, you should say, hey,
this person is continuing to grow and evolve, and that's
the person that's showing up. And I think you see
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this like maybe in I remember in college, like the
older person who's actually paying for college themselves, or maybe
a younger person who actually got the loan and paid
for college. They're the ones always raising their hands and
have the most questions instead of the people that are
just on like maybe a free ride or like oh please,
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let's get out to lunch or let's move on. Those
are the people that are most motivated.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Yeah, that's for sure.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
And then on that topic, I think it's also great
because learning more, you become more of an asset and
you're creating more value. And then it goes back into
what Chris was talking about sustainability. That can be for
a personal development thing, or that can be for a
financial thing, where you can have more sustainability because that
value is there. People always going to come to you
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because they know you're good for this or for this
or for that. I know who to come to for
when I need something, you know, totally.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
We talk about finance here a lot, but more in
the sense of sustainability, more in the sense of thriving.
We're never we're never telling people that they need to
be rich, right, we all know, And if you haven't
figured it out yet, you will figure out that money
doesn't make you happy. It makes you happy is your purpose.
What makes you happy is finding a way to do
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what it is you want to do with your life
and do it to a point that the world rewards
you in things like money and sustainability. So I'm curious,
as your path has progressed and you've maintained abilities to
find outlets in all these different ways that you like
to express yourself, what are some financial things that perhaps
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have stuck out as good advice for others trying to
pursue their careers.
Speaker 6 (06:36):
One thing is when you do get a large amount
of money, be thoughtful and relax if you can't. You know,
because I've done it where I've gotten a large check
and I'm like, oh, I can go get this and
I'm going to take my buddies out to eat and
I'm going to go on this travel is like that's great,
But also, hey, when that money's gone, that one is gone,
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So like what are you going to do? Are you
going to invest it in some equipment? Are you going
to invest it in the stock market? So I can
you know, compound on the interest? Are you going to
do things that you need to do around the house.
So it's like, when you do get that money, does
that make you happy? No? But it can bring solutions
to a lot of different things that are issues and
challenging for you. Because I've been without money and felt
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like I had all the money. I had all the
money and felt like I didn't have no money and
I wasn't happy. So it's like, you know, before I
had the money, I thought that when I have money,
I'm going to be happy.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
But like money, I don't have any problems.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
Like no, no, that's that's not the truth. So and
a lot of people won't understand that until they experience it.
You know, it's always no if it was me, I
would do it like this, but in tu experience it
is always going to look different.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
What would you say your most lucrative and like creatively
it was had the most value for you as far
as placements with zinc.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
So the most lucrative on was the KFC placement.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
And it's actually funny story because I mentioned that two
year window, and I made that song two years prior
to the placement for something totally different but also engaging
in relationships. Like I mentioned earlier, how important that is.
Rashad Richardson of Madden Floor Entertainment was representing that catalog,
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pitched that to the advisors at KFC and ended up
getting a placement for me when I had no idea,
you know. So it's just like that was a lucrative
move for me and the biggest in my career thus far,
and it's just like, this is actually possible. I've heard
different people say, man, I've made five figures in a sink,
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and I'm just like, what does that feel like? So
now it was my turn. I'm like, hey, yo, is
this what it feels like? This is the actual possible
thing that you can actually do.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
It makes you look at it.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
Differently, you know, because at first I was just getting
a couple hundred, a couple thousand, and then it became like, oh,
I don't have to work for a couple of years
after this check, like so, but I still went to
work and did nothing happened, like you don't want to
be like I made it and then just like, oh
so I still worked. So that's something that's definitely been
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a great experience for me and just a creative thing.
And I actually was in transition of quitting music for
a while, taking a hiatus, and people are like, oh,
are you back now since you got that placement. I'm like, no,
I'm still a hiatus. Like this, I said I was
gonna be a hiatus. That's what I'm going to do.
The money's not going to change what I said or
how I feel and the.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Way the money, I'll let you take the break, didn't it? Right?
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Yeah? How does that change your resume?
Speaker 3 (09:42):
As far as the way people that are looking for
someone like you that had a placement like that and
now that sound is more familiar to an audience.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Did you see that ship make a shift for you
in pitching?
Speaker 6 (09:55):
When the placement came in, I was still like, all right, cool,
that's great, this is like exciting.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
I'm still not getting in the studio right now though,
Like I'm still on break.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
What about the people pitching you? He just landed this deal.
Maybe this would be you know, his other stuff might
be good for you.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Here.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
I saw another brief come out within the same company.
They didn't put the name on it, but they showed
some things where I was like, oh, I know exactly
what this is.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
And they came back and I didn't submit to it.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
I kind of felt a little regret forty thirty percent
of regret of not submitting to that, because I was
just like, no, I'm not going to get back into this,
and I know exactly what this is.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
I should have submitted, but I didn't.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
So it's like they probably didn't want to pitch me
if I would have submitted something, but I didn't.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
I was like, you know whatever, let me go to sleep, taking.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
That your expensive couch. Don't get my money's worth out
of this couch, right.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Just so that people know a little bit about that.
So the fact that you wrote that two years prior
for something else, right, that's another example of keeping your
assets organized right and keeping them relevant so that you
can allow these opportunities to occur right without you having
to really push on them.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Yeah, just because.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I'm sure a lot of them will look up after
they listen to this to hear it. But tell us
a little bit about the song and then how it
fit into the campaign.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
So the song is called I Got Flavor by Jared
Oulu on all platforms. But before you listen to that,
you might think like, oh, okay, he made that song
exactly for the actual CAFC campaign.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
I did not.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
I had no food in mind, but the hook is
talking about saucy sauce all over me. I Got Flavor.
So how I mentioned earlier be as general as possible.
That can mean anything. I had nothing food in mind,
but it got used for a food commercial because it
was for saucy nuggets, and so it was just perfect, right,
And it was just like, yo, bro, you made this
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song perfect for the commercial.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
And I was just like, no, I didn't.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
I made that this song two years ago, and so
it was like so exciting to just be like, WHOA,
I'm glad I didn't get the other placement that I
submitted for, because then that song would have been taken
up for that and this opportunity wouldn't have came in.
And so just giving it time and making sure that
you have your stems in.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Order because they act for all of those things.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
So whoever's listening to this video right now, please get
your pro together, which is your ass, CAT B and
mic SEC wherever you are your performance rights organization.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Have that ready. Have your publishing ready so you can
get paid twice.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
Have your stems together, which is all the tracks, the vocals,
the instrumental, the high hat, the snare, the base, the synth,
whatever you used. And have your one stop agreement ready
where you can sign off and give authorization to say
that this is one hundred percent me, or if you
have a co writer, this is one hundred percent us.
That's fifty percent or forty sixty, thirty seventy, whatever the
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case is. Have all that stuff order first, so you
don't have to scramble because they send you emails you
have to respond back asap, and so they take account
to that. So I had all my stuff in order,
so they didn't have to be like.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
Oh, where's this, where's that? Have your artwork?
Speaker 6 (13:14):
Also that sounds like this doesn't matter, but they act
for artwork.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
So yeah, you have to have all that stuff in order.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
You've also made such an effort to be an influencer,
if I can call you that. That's a right to
others in the art world. And and I think people
of all types of career choices. I think enjoy your
content on social media, but also you are a member
of a lot of organizations, and I think this is
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a really important thing to kind of highlight because, as
we said, when you talked about trying to get into
the community and putting in your effort into places, I
think a lot of people maybe miss the opportunity with
organizations and being a part of organizations, being on panels.
Can you speak a little bit to how that's benefited
you and some of the ones that you are a
part of.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Yeah, it just helps.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
It benefits you first because you get to explore and
be more open and understanding of what's out there, and
then it helps you create relationships. And then it also
helps you create that value to say, hey, how can
I be of help to other people? And then once
you're helping them, you're also learning as well, and so
it's not a one side thing. It's you know, each
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one teach one and everybody's also learning from each other
as well. And it's just a new thing to just
put yourself into it. You know, I don't like to
do it just to be like, look at me, and
I want to get to learn and meet this person
but I know I create value. Like we have to
understand that in ourselves, whether we're introvert or extrovert or
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am provert, we have to know that we have value
and if we don't, why are we doing it? Like
who goes on stage talking about I'm the weakest person.
This is not gonna work.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Why you're on stage? Sit down?
Speaker 7 (14:58):
You know.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
So other than that, if going to be in the
spotlight and try to do things for other people, know
that it's going to be beneficial and know that. You know,
elevation is all a part of development. You know, whatever
that means to you is going to help you.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
What are some of the organizations that you are a
membership or I'm the committee.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
For the LA Recording Academy, which is a part of
the Grammy Recording Academy and things of that nature. So
I'm Grammy, you Mentorship, Youth mentor Connection Londale High School.
I'm a part of a lot of mentorship groups see
LA Music Forward And that's in the family of Life Nation.
So just different things where I've been able to join
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and be a part of and join the family and
you know, connect with others, be somebody and you know,
I wearn't an actual AWE access Fest shirt, which is
a part of Music Forward actually, and I was a
mentor for their last conference at the Hollywood Palladium. So
it's like what can we learn and then also what
can we share? And that's my thing. I've learned a
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lot and I can share a lot.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
What do you believe are the most significant challenges facing
young creatives today and how do these programs address these challenges?
Speaker 6 (16:11):
I think a lot of times people don't know where
to start. They see the biggest artists and they think
that they have so far to go because they think
that that's where they have to get and that's where
they want to be. But a lot of times that
stuff takes a lot of time, effort, challenges, falling off,
learning things, interning, volunteering, working, and I think the biggest
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challenge is the misinformation and so or not having somebody
to help you and you know, get you on board.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
To where you need to go.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
It's more of a payoff when you run into a
lot of walls, but learn and elevate rather than somebody
having a mentor or you know, going to school and
getting all the you know, your peers and your staff
and stuff like that. So that's another thing if you're
in college, don't go to college just to get the a.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Go to college.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
To be with your peers. Connect with your peers, connect
with the staff, connect with the professors because they know things.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
That's why they're there.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
And so you want to make sure you're not even
if you're paying for it or not paying for it,
you want to make sure you put yourself in a
position to expand and explore, and once you do that,
you elevate.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
And those are the three e's. Expand, explore, elevate. We
just made that one up.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Oh, I'm totally stealing that one.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I was going to stack. Yeah, what are some of
the things that you're getting a lot of content from
and a lot of value from out there in the
media world.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
So when I do listen to podcasts, I listen to
a Diary of a CEO by Steve Bartlett and he
has so many different extravagant guests on his podcast, from
entrepreneurs to artists to CEOs, but the biggest companies that
you can think of. And I think that's very beneficial
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to hear other people's plight and how they got through it,
because some people look Oh, you're rich, you don't have
to deal with struggle. But you don't know how they
struggle to become rich, you know, And so hearing different
things to be like, oh, it's not just me. Oh
it doesn't matter that I was born with one parent
or no parents, or with no money. If you hear
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these different success stories, you don't have to come from
a grandiose family or background. Artists need to hear that
that it takes time, it takes development to get to
where you want to be, and just keeping that hope
and just knowing that, hey, I'm going to get there.
Let me take my time and enjoy the journey, because
that's a good thing. I also want to shed some
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light on Nipsey Hustle. He got me to reading again.
Back when I was with him in the studio. We
didn't talk about music.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
He had a bookshelf in his studio and I was like, bro,
you read all these books. He's like, yeah, I read
all these books. And we just start talking about books.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
So I know you mentioned like what books, and I'm
like the Four Agreements, the Alchemist, thinking, grow Rich, Pollie
and Heal. Different books that are just like self motivating
or just giving you.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Outside thoughts about how to think.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
That's what I take from it, and just to know that, hey,
life could be a struggle.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
But also what are you.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
Learning from this and what are you gaining from this
and what can you do with that experience and what
your thoughts How important your thoughts are because that can
help you or it can hurt you. So that's something
I'm still learning, like to think more positive and think
helpful so I do more better for myself, and if
I can do better for myself, I can do better
for others.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Love it, Jared, thank you so much for being here
on the show and sharing all this with us. The
last question, we just kind of want to know a
little bit about what's coming up for you. I know
that you're just kind of getting off a hiatus, so
I bet you're probably making plans, like what are some
of the things you're looking forward to that are coming up?
Speaker 6 (19:45):
More travel, I'm going to get back into doing some music,
so I must do my own EP, doing some more
speaking engagements.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
I love doing workshops. So whether that's.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
At a school, whether that's at a organization, whether that's online,
doesn't matter. I just want to do something where I
can put myself in a position to help others and
then just you know, I just love speaking and helping
other people and letting them know, Hey, don't make it
so hard for yourself. Let's just have some fun where
humans is going to take some time if you compare yourself,
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compare yourself in the metric of I'm not doing as
good as I can be, let me do better, or hey,
i'm doing pretty good. I could be down there, but
as I see the metrics and compare myself, I'm not
doing so bad. Keep going, don't stop it and think
that that's where you know, it's the end of the road.
So I love to do that. And some people tell
you not to compare yourself, but it depends on how
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you do it. But I'm also looking to going to
Colorado for the Durango Songwriting Expo and being there with
you know you. Hopefully I can see you there, Dave,
I don't know, and see the rest of my peers
in the music industry, because you know, you got to
show face, show up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
That's the beat.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yeah, I was going to ask you that because I
think last time you said you were in ninety seven percent. Yes,
I was hoping that this conversation hits you over the top.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Yeah, you know what, I think.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
I'm ninety nine right now, and we still have a
few more months to go, and by the time that
comes up, I'm going to be one hundred percent there
in person.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, I'll definitely be there. Dave's in Madison, so I'm
not sure if he's gonna make the trip out, but.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
I'll fly you out. I'll fly you out, Dave.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
But then I've never flown a man out before.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
But this is a good thing. This is peer ship,
you know what I'm saying. This is brotherhood. You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
But if I'm going to steal all your quotes, I
can't have you at the same location.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Like that's a hard rule for me, you know. I
have to be able to escape quickly not be found out.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
I appreciate it, and thank you for sure for the questions,
for the understanding for the things that I'm thinking about
from your questions as well.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
So it's just like the realization of the things that
we all need and to bring them back to you
and reflect on I think that's important. And so Dave
and Chris I appreciate you for instilling that and helping
the community as well. Sol musicians Tip jar it's doing
their thing, definitely helping other creative Thank you, you appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
So let's first talk about just Jared's two year window rule,
because I think we can really highlight this. There is
always gonna be things that you kind of want to do, right.
We all have ideas like, Oh, I should climb a fourteener,
you know, and yeah, I should do that. I should
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talk to some people that do that. I should find
out what kind of gear I would need for that.
Oh I can't just go and do that tomorrow. I
have to train. Oh okay, I'm gonna give myself some
time to train. Oh I need some other people to
train with her. I'm gonna lose motivation, right, And so
it kind of builds into all this stuff. But if
we start with that angle and we can work our
way to a point in which we kind of have
a strategy that I think a two year window rule
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is a really useful place for that, because then, like
you said before we started recording, sometimes you don't give
yourself enough time to actually achieve what you're thinking of achieving.
I think a lot of people think they're gonna move
to Nashville or move to LA and just get a
record deal, right, And that's not our listeners. Of course,
our listeners are much more realists than that. But it
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is a common thing, right. It's something where people start
with that idea that's what they want, but they don't
go through all of the things that it might take
and the things they can do to increase their odds
of achieving that. And a two year window is a
really great way to kind of build that plan.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
And the two years also gives you a longer learning curve.
But once it clicks, it shoots straight up, so it's
got a you know, a wider tail to it. And
then that curve just shoots up and you start to
see things happen because of the community you surround yourself with.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
And if it's something that's brand new to you, it's
really important that you give yourself the outlet or the
access to the that's really going to be the most
crucial for you. And and I think that was really
useful that he talked about interning and how interning doesn't
have to only be for college aged students or someone
just out of college, right.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Yeah, absolutely, I think interning is a great way to
get to the heart of what you want to learn.
And you know, they say even now, you know you
should get paid for it. But if you have the
opportunity to absorb all that information, go for it.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
And I liked that you mentioned older students at colleges
because I've seen that too, and like you had mentioned
in the interview, that's so true that those are the
people that are the most clear on the information they're
trying to receive and the most open to receiving it,
and there's an attitude brought from that that gives them
so much more power to absorb more information than the
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others around them.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Absolutely, I wish I would have learned more when I
was that young, stupid college kid being annoyed because I
wanted the class to be over with and they're asking
one more question. I should have been more curious to
be like, oh, this person really knows what they want
to do. Yeah, And all I hear right now is
all you really want to do is go on a fourteener.
So I think we should plan on a fourteen er hike.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Next time, something I've never done.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
He neither could camp early in the morning because you
have to leave like at five am. Right, you don't
want to be a mountain by afternoon because of the stone.
We could talk about that another podcast, our fourteeners podcasts.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
But we do have to keep that hunger of new
things and that hunger to learn how to do those things.
It's got to be just something in you. And we
talk about reading a lot. We talk about trying to
be around people that inspire you, people that intimidate you
with their talents, or people that are doing the damn
thing right. Those are the people you want to be around.
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You need to find ways to keep yourself hungry to
learn more.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
I've been trading for two and a half years now,
and a friend, Jason, you live from high school, came
out to the show this weekend that we had here
in Madison. He lives like forty minutes away. And I
found out from a friend, not knowing that Jason even
did this. He was already coming, but he's been trading
for twenty years. She saw his face light up when
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I was like, Uh, can we talk more about this
because I need someone to learn from And it was
almost like this thing like, oh, you want to talk
about that too. No matter what you know, never stop learning.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yep. Well, and hopefully that makes you more money. But
it is important to remember that money is not the
happiness solution, right. Jared really emphasized that in a way
that felt so honest. I mean, if you talk to
a lot of kids, my kids, I mean, and I
don't think this is from me. The kids these days
in America, when you ask them what they want when
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they grow up, they go straight to money. They go
straight to having those fancy cars and having big houses
and having tons of money, tons of money. It's a
little concerning because if you ask kids in many other
countries where they perhaps don't have as much affluence, they're
going to talk about much more humbling things like a
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fresh love of bread, or they're going to talk about
being more with their family. There's a concern to me
about the elements in which our kids are desiring their
goals in life. And that is definitely another podcast. But
it is important to see how as we grow we
realize the thing that motivates us, the thing that makes
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us happy in the end, is not money, right. It
is the achievement of these things.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
I didn't have the opportunity to travel and play shows
overseas until well, I think I was forty and the
one thing that's kind of a full pause to ask
someone what they do for a living? They ask in
Ireland anyway, it was what do you do for fun?
And that changed the way I ask people questions now
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because when I hear the first I want to know
what people do for fun more than I really care
how they make their money. So it's been nice to
meet new neighbors here in Madison say so, what do
you do for fun around here?
Speaker 4 (28:09):
What makes you happy? That's a great conversation starter, and
you have a longer conversation for sure.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
And that's what we do as musicians is what makes
us happy making songs, writing songs, playing music, playing shows
and getting together with other people and making music. And
I think if we can do that organically, we do
see results if we're putting those things in the right places.
And I think Jared's story about writing that song two
years earlier, by the way that that time frame is
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not lost on us, and then having it become that
biggest opportunity that he had ever had without him really
having to try right, there was no stress put into it.
There was no concern. It just occurred because the things
that he was doing were headed towards that direction. Set
the stuff up right and headed towards that direction when
he went through that list for everyone, just a reminder
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that you need to be on those organizations with your
music registered correctly and be ready to absorb those opportunities
when they come, which also brought in talking about the
organizations that he's a part of. This was such an
eye opener for me as an instructor at a university.
There are so many organizations that email us all the time,
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and I really haven't become involved in any of them.
And that's only because I think that my idea of
how much time they're going to take turns me off
from being interested. But the truth is that I really
could benefit from them. And this was the kick in
the pants for me to say, you know what, I
need to be a part of these because a lot
of them are a lot of my comrades around that
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community are a part of a lot of them, and
they really enjoy it, and it's nice to have an
influence on these programs that do good in the world.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
He inspired me as well.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
I wrote him to thank him for just showing up
the way he does. And our last podcast, I mentioned
Madison Music Makers and I reached out to them and
wrote them a shorty email and I said, I just
moved to town. If there's anything I can do to
help in any way, please feel.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Free to reach out. Let me know how I can
be a service.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
And if it wasn't for that podcast with him, I
don't know if I would have.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
It just pushed me to do it.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah, which is a great example of us using these
resources and this information to motivate us and move forward,
you know, and do things that we don't know how
to do yet because we're motivated and you're taking away
that fear, right, you're taking away that concept that it's
too hard or too far from where you are. He
had that idea of the three e's right, the expand, explore,
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and elevate, which I have a hard time believing he
came up with that on the spot because it's so good.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
It was good, but at least we get.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
To emphasize it here because it really has a lot
of power to realize that if you are expanding, and
you are exploring, and you're elevating, these are three things
that are going to push you towards getting where you
want to get.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
I signed up for the Diary of a CEO, one
of his recommendations for a podcast. I realized, I've watched
more videos of that, gentlemen. I don't know what it
is with Spotify. Just like the music these days, you
don't hear the title of the podcast. You're just listening
to great information. But not that I've been listening to
that for a lot longer than I thought.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
It was.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
What other books he said, the Four Agreements.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Yeah, that was a good one to put on our list.
He did talk about some that we've had on the
list and that we both love as well. You know,
Napoleon Hill's book and The Alchemist is another great one.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Yeah, the Story of the Alchemist. I mean again, I
think I read that way later than I should. Have
to find out that you have what you need right
in front of you the whole time. You just have
to open your eyes. It was a great lesson.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
So our action step for you guys today is to
identify your main focus and build what you can to
give that focus a true, committed two year effort so
that you can get to that goal. Another way is
to identify what has passed the two year mark you're
continuing to work on right now and see if that
means that it's time to find a new strategy. The
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main thing is that you're not sitting around wasting your
time thinking you're on your way towards that goal. This
is a way to keep yourself in check and rejuvenate
that goal. We know who your time is valuable and
we appreciate spending this time with us and being a
part of this community. It's our hope that you feel
that sense of community here at musicians tip jar and
that you help spread the word to make us stronger.
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If you'd like to get hold of us, what's the
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Speaker 3 (32:28):
Send us an email at musicians tip jar at gmail.
Check out our website musicians tipjar dot com, where you
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Speaker 4 (33:03):
And he sends them to me. Then I have to
have more meetings.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
We don't want to have more meetings, So please just hit.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
The like body as always, thank you for joining us.
Remember there is already enough for everyone, You just need
to know how to get it. Until next time on
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Welcome to the show that explores the methods and strategies
on rocking the financial side of your music business. With
over forty years combined experience, here are your hosts, Chris
Webb and Dave Tampkin.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome to Musicians Tip Jar, where we talk about musicians
and money. Where we love finding ways to simplify the
rules to make our efforts towards success easier and clearer.
I'm Chris Webb, joined by my co host and the
consistent voice of clarity, Dave Tampkin.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Thanks for having me Backcress. I'm not sure if my
voice is too clear for this episode. Too many nights
singing out till two am, and we'll just try to
get through it the best he can.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, you got to talk more up here.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Yeah, I don't know if my voice is gonna crack.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Nothing wrong with the high voice, Dave, No, there is it.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
I wish I had a higher voice, honestly.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Today we complete our interview with sync artists creative and
mentor Jared Alua. We examined his two year rule strategy,
discuss how his biggest placement to date came about, and
share the value of joining organizations that align with your passions.
Today's quote comes from our guest Jared. He said, I've
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been without money and felt like I've had all the
money and had all the money, and felt like I
had no money and wasn't even happy.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
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to their programs. Please learn more at earshot dot org.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Jared Alua is thirty five year old out of Los Angeles.
He is an instrumentalist and a vocal producer. He grew
up in a musical family, and he tends to work
closely with his youngest brother, Beats Made by Fresh. Together,
they've landed placements on beet, VH one, MTV, and many more.
Aside from music, Jared has also had the heart and
to share his knowledge with the creative community. Some of
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the organizations he volunteers with include Youth Mentoring Connection, Music
Forward Grammy You program as a mentor as well. In
twenty twenty one, he joined the LA Recording Academy, where
he became involved in the advocacy and served in the
professional development Committee. We really enjoy chatting with Jared. He's
so fun to hang out with, and I hope that
you get a lot out of his experience and his insights. Well,
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let's go.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
I have this two year window where it's just like,
if I want something, I have to work at it
consistently and we imagine or redo two years of it,
and if it doesn't work, I tried it, you know.
So like if you want to be like, okay, I
want to be an entrepreneur and I have to scale
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and make profit, Okay, give yourself two years of figuring
it out, doing the work, researching, interning, working, so you
can understand what you're doing from a ground level, and
then go hit the work. If it doesn't work within
two years, what did you learn? And if you didn't
hit any success within that two years, maybe try something else.
Because if you're doing it and you're like actually revolving
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in things of that nature within that two years, something's
got to hit.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
It has to what you're saying in there. That I
think a lot of people miss is that the things
like interning, the things like actually getting into the community
that is doing what it is you're trying to do
is such a critical piece right to giving it full
two years of or a real go at it. Right.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
Yeah, whatever age you're at, thirty forty fifty, some people
think that I'm too old to intern.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
It's just like interning is just only to help you
elevate and propel you to the next level. Right now.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
You might look weird and corny for you know, doing
free work, but you're getting education that's going to be
an amount of money that you really can't put an
amount on because you're getting information that you can give
to the masses. And not only that for the people's
for yourself. Like we mentioned earlier, like you know what
we're saying to other people, we also had to listen
to it ourselves. And so learning it never stops. That's
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never been a corny thing. It's only for people who
don't have it that thinks it's corny.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
And being a young intern implicates that what you're doing
is what you have to do for the rest of
your life because you're young just learning this one thing.
So if you're always learning something new, the age of
an intern does not matter, because if anything, you should say, hey,
this person is continuing to grow and evolve, and that's
the person that's showing up. And I think you see
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this like maybe in I remember in college, like the
older person who's actually paying for college themselves, or maybe
a younger person who actually got the loan and paid
for college. They're the ones always raising their hands and
have the most questions instead of the people that are
just on like maybe a free ride or like oh please,
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let's get out to lunch or let's move on. Those
are the people that are most motivated.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Yeah, that's for sure.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
And then on that topic, I think it's also great
because learning more, you become more of an asset and
you're creating more value. And then it goes back into
what Chris was talking about sustainability. That can be for
a personal development thing, or that can be for a
financial thing, where you can have more sustainability because that
value is there. People always going to come to you
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because they know you're good for this or for this
or for that. I know who to come to for
when I need something, you know, totally.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
We talk about finance here a lot, but more in
the sense of sustainability, more in the sense of thriving.
We're never we're never telling people that they need to
be rich, right, we all know, And if you haven't
figured it out yet, you will figure out that money
doesn't make you happy. It makes you happy is your purpose.
What makes you happy is finding a way to do
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what it is you want to do with your life
and do it to a point that the world rewards
you in things like money and sustainability. So I'm curious,
as your path has progressed and you've maintained abilities to
find outlets in all these different ways that you like
to express yourself, what are some financial things that perhaps
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have stuck out as good advice for others trying to
pursue their careers.
Speaker 6 (06:36):
One thing is when you do get a large amount
of money, be thoughtful and relax if you can't. You know,
because I've done it where I've gotten a large check
and I'm like, oh, I can go get this and
I'm going to take my buddies out to eat and
I'm going to go on this travel is like that's great,
But also, hey, when that money's gone, that one is gone,
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So like what are you going to do? Are you
going to invest it in some equipment? Are you going
to invest it in the stock market? So I can
you know, compound on the interest? Are you going to
do things that you need to do around the house.
So it's like, when you do get that money, does
that make you happy? No? But it can bring solutions
to a lot of different things that are issues and
challenging for you. Because I've been without money and felt
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like I had all the money. I had all the
money and felt like I didn't have no money and
I wasn't happy. So it's like, you know, before I
had the money, I thought that when I have money,
I'm going to be happy.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
But like money, I don't have any problems.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
Like no, no, that's that's not the truth. So and
a lot of people won't understand that until they experience it.
You know, it's always no if it was me, I
would do it like this, but in tu experience it
is always going to look different.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
What would you say your most lucrative and like creatively
it was had the most value for you as far
as placements with zinc.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
So the most lucrative on was the KFC placement.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
And it's actually funny story because I mentioned that two
year window, and I made that song two years prior
to the placement for something totally different but also engaging
in relationships. Like I mentioned earlier, how important that is.
Rashad Richardson of Madden Floor Entertainment was representing that catalog,
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pitched that to the advisors at KFC and ended up
getting a placement for me when I had no idea,
you know. So it's just like that was a lucrative
move for me and the biggest in my career thus far,
and it's just like, this is actually possible. I've heard
different people say, man, I've made five figures in a sink,
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and I'm just like, what does that feel like? So
now it was my turn. I'm like, hey, yo, is
this what it feels like? This is the actual possible
thing that you can actually do.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
It makes you look at it.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
Differently, you know, because at first I was just getting
a couple hundred, a couple thousand, and then it became like, oh,
I don't have to work for a couple of years
after this check, like so, but I still went to
work and did nothing happened, like you don't want to
be like I made it and then just like, oh
so I still worked. So that's something that's definitely been
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a great experience for me and just a creative thing.
And I actually was in transition of quitting music for
a while, taking a hiatus, and people are like, oh,
are you back now since you got that placement. I'm like, no,
I'm still a hiatus. Like this, I said I was
gonna be a hiatus. That's what I'm going to do.
The money's not going to change what I said or
how I feel and the.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Way the money, I'll let you take the break, didn't it? Right?
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Yeah? How does that change your resume?
Speaker 3 (09:42):
As far as the way people that are looking for
someone like you that had a placement like that and
now that sound is more familiar to an audience.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Did you see that ship make a shift for you
in pitching?
Speaker 6 (09:55):
When the placement came in, I was still like, all right, cool,
that's great, this is like exciting.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
I'm still not getting in the studio right now though,
Like I'm still on break.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
What about the people pitching you? He just landed this deal.
Maybe this would be you know, his other stuff might
be good for you.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Here.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
I saw another brief come out within the same company.
They didn't put the name on it, but they showed
some things where I was like, oh, I know exactly
what this is.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
And they came back and I didn't submit to it.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
I kind of felt a little regret forty thirty percent
of regret of not submitting to that, because I was
just like, no, I'm not going to get back into this,
and I know exactly what this is.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
I should have submitted, but I didn't.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
So it's like they probably didn't want to pitch me
if I would have submitted something, but I didn't.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
I was like, you know whatever, let me go to sleep, taking.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
That your expensive couch. Don't get my money's worth out
of this couch, right.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Just so that people know a little bit about that.
So the fact that you wrote that two years prior
for something else, right, that's another example of keeping your
assets organized right and keeping them relevant so that you
can allow these opportunities to occur right without you having
to really push on them.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Yeah, just because.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I'm sure a lot of them will look up after
they listen to this to hear it. But tell us
a little bit about the song and then how it
fit into the campaign.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
So the song is called I Got Flavor by Jared
Oulu on all platforms. But before you listen to that,
you might think like, oh, okay, he made that song
exactly for the actual CAFC campaign.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
I did not.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
I had no food in mind, but the hook is
talking about saucy sauce all over me. I Got Flavor.
So how I mentioned earlier be as general as possible.
That can mean anything. I had nothing food in mind,
but it got used for a food commercial because it
was for saucy nuggets, and so it was just perfect, right,
And it was just like, yo, bro, you made this
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song perfect for the commercial.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
And I was just like, no, I didn't.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
I made that this song two years ago, and so
it was like so exciting to just be like, WHOA,
I'm glad I didn't get the other placement that I
submitted for, because then that song would have been taken
up for that and this opportunity wouldn't have came in.
And so just giving it time and making sure that
you have your stems in.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Order because they act for all of those things.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
So whoever's listening to this video right now, please get
your pro together, which is your ass, CAT B and
mic SEC wherever you are your performance rights organization.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Have that ready. Have your publishing ready so you can
get paid twice.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
Have your stems together, which is all the tracks, the vocals,
the instrumental, the high hat, the snare, the base, the synth,
whatever you used. And have your one stop agreement ready
where you can sign off and give authorization to say
that this is one hundred percent me, or if you
have a co writer, this is one hundred percent us.
That's fifty percent or forty sixty, thirty seventy, whatever the
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case is. Have all that stuff order first, so you
don't have to scramble because they send you emails you
have to respond back asap, and so they take account
to that. So I had all my stuff in order,
so they didn't have to be like.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
Oh, where's this, where's that? Have your artwork?
Speaker 6 (13:14):
Also that sounds like this doesn't matter, but they act
for artwork.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
So yeah, you have to have all that stuff in order.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
You've also made such an effort to be an influencer,
if I can call you that. That's a right to
others in the art world. And and I think people
of all types of career choices. I think enjoy your
content on social media, but also you are a member
of a lot of organizations, and I think this is
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a really important thing to kind of highlight because, as
we said, when you talked about trying to get into
the community and putting in your effort into places, I
think a lot of people maybe miss the opportunity with
organizations and being a part of organizations, being on panels.
Can you speak a little bit to how that's benefited
you and some of the ones that you are a
part of.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Yeah, it just helps.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
It benefits you first because you get to explore and
be more open and understanding of what's out there, and
then it helps you create relationships. And then it also
helps you create that value to say, hey, how can
I be of help to other people? And then once
you're helping them, you're also learning as well, and so
it's not a one side thing. It's you know, each
(14:26):
one teach one and everybody's also learning from each other
as well. And it's just a new thing to just
put yourself into it. You know, I don't like to
do it just to be like, look at me, and
I want to get to learn and meet this person
but I know I create value. Like we have to
understand that in ourselves, whether we're introvert or extrovert or
(14:47):
am provert, we have to know that we have value
and if we don't, why are we doing it? Like
who goes on stage talking about I'm the weakest person.
This is not gonna work.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Why you're on stage? Sit down?
Speaker 7 (14:58):
You know.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
So other than that, if going to be in the
spotlight and try to do things for other people, know
that it's going to be beneficial and know that. You know,
elevation is all a part of development. You know, whatever
that means to you is going to help you.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
What are some of the organizations that you are a
membership or I'm the committee.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
For the LA Recording Academy, which is a part of
the Grammy Recording Academy and things of that nature. So
I'm Grammy, you Mentorship, Youth mentor Connection Londale High School.
I'm a part of a lot of mentorship groups see
LA Music Forward And that's in the family of Life Nation.
So just different things where I've been able to join
(15:40):
and be a part of and join the family and
you know, connect with others, be somebody and you know,
I wearn't an actual AWE access Fest shirt, which is
a part of Music Forward actually, and I was a
mentor for their last conference at the Hollywood Palladium. So
it's like what can we learn and then also what
can we share? And that's my thing. I've learned a
(16:02):
lot and I can share a lot.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
What do you believe are the most significant challenges facing
young creatives today and how do these programs address these challenges?
Speaker 6 (16:11):
I think a lot of times people don't know where
to start. They see the biggest artists and they think
that they have so far to go because they think
that that's where they have to get and that's where
they want to be. But a lot of times that
stuff takes a lot of time, effort, challenges, falling off,
learning things, interning, volunteering, working, and I think the biggest
(16:32):
challenge is the misinformation and so or not having somebody
to help you and you know, get you on board.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
To where you need to go.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
It's more of a payoff when you run into a
lot of walls, but learn and elevate rather than somebody
having a mentor or you know, going to school and
getting all the you know, your peers and your staff
and stuff like that. So that's another thing if you're
in college, don't go to college just to get the a.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Go to college.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
To be with your peers. Connect with your peers, connect
with the staff, connect with the professors because they know things.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
That's why they're there.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
And so you want to make sure you're not even
if you're paying for it or not paying for it,
you want to make sure you put yourself in a
position to expand and explore, and once you do that,
you elevate.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
And those are the three e's. Expand, explore, elevate. We
just made that one up.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Oh, I'm totally stealing that one.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I was going to stack. Yeah, what are some of
the things that you're getting a lot of content from
and a lot of value from out there in the
media world.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
So when I do listen to podcasts, I listen to
a Diary of a CEO by Steve Bartlett and he
has so many different extravagant guests on his podcast, from
entrepreneurs to artists to CEOs, but the biggest companies that
you can think of. And I think that's very beneficial
(17:57):
to hear other people's plight and how they got through it,
because some people look Oh, you're rich, you don't have
to deal with struggle. But you don't know how they
struggle to become rich, you know, And so hearing different
things to be like, oh, it's not just me. Oh
it doesn't matter that I was born with one parent
or no parents, or with no money. If you hear
(18:18):
these different success stories, you don't have to come from
a grandiose family or background. Artists need to hear that
that it takes time, it takes development to get to
where you want to be, and just keeping that hope
and just knowing that, hey, I'm going to get there.
Let me take my time and enjoy the journey, because
that's a good thing. I also want to shed some
(18:40):
light on Nipsey Hustle. He got me to reading again.
Back when I was with him in the studio. We
didn't talk about music.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
He had a bookshelf in his studio and I was like, bro,
you read all these books. He's like, yeah, I read
all these books. And we just start talking about books.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
So I know you mentioned like what books, and I'm
like the Four Agreements, the Alchemist, thinking, grow Rich, Pollie
and Heal. Different books that are just like self motivating
or just giving you.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Outside thoughts about how to think.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
That's what I take from it, and just to know that, hey,
life could be a struggle.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
But also what are you.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
Learning from this and what are you gaining from this
and what can you do with that experience and what
your thoughts How important your thoughts are because that can
help you or it can hurt you. So that's something
I'm still learning, like to think more positive and think
helpful so I do more better for myself, and if
I can do better for myself, I can do better
for others.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Love it, Jared, thank you so much for being here
on the show and sharing all this with us. The
last question, we just kind of want to know a
little bit about what's coming up for you. I know
that you're just kind of getting off a hiatus, so
I bet you're probably making plans, like what are some
of the things you're looking forward to that are coming up?
Speaker 6 (19:45):
More travel, I'm going to get back into doing some music,
so I must do my own EP, doing some more
speaking engagements.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
I love doing workshops. So whether that's.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
At a school, whether that's at a organization, whether that's online,
doesn't matter. I just want to do something where I
can put myself in a position to help others and
then just you know, I just love speaking and helping
other people and letting them know, Hey, don't make it
so hard for yourself. Let's just have some fun where
humans is going to take some time if you compare yourself,
(20:15):
compare yourself in the metric of I'm not doing as
good as I can be, let me do better, or hey,
i'm doing pretty good. I could be down there, but
as I see the metrics and compare myself, I'm not
doing so bad. Keep going, don't stop it and think
that that's where you know, it's the end of the road.
So I love to do that. And some people tell
you not to compare yourself, but it depends on how
(20:35):
you do it. But I'm also looking to going to
Colorado for the Durango Songwriting Expo and being there with
you know you. Hopefully I can see you there, Dave,
I don't know, and see the rest of my peers
in the music industry, because you know, you got to
show face, show up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
That's the beat.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yeah, I was going to ask you that because I
think last time you said you were in ninety seven percent. Yes,
I was hoping that this conversation hits you over the top.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Yeah, you know what, I think.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
I'm ninety nine right now, and we still have a
few more months to go, and by the time that
comes up, I'm going to be one hundred percent there
in person.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, I'll definitely be there. Dave's in Madison, so I'm
not sure if he's gonna make the trip out, but.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
I'll fly you out. I'll fly you out, Dave.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
But then I've never flown a man out before.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
But this is a good thing. This is peer ship,
you know what I'm saying. This is brotherhood. You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
But if I'm going to steal all your quotes, I
can't have you at the same location.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Like that's a hard rule for me, you know. I
have to be able to escape quickly not be found out.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
I appreciate it, and thank you for sure for the questions,
for the understanding for the things that I'm thinking about
from your questions as well.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
So it's just like the realization of the things that
we all need and to bring them back to you
and reflect on I think that's important. And so Dave
and Chris I appreciate you for instilling that and helping
the community as well. Sol musicians Tip jar it's doing
their thing, definitely helping other creative Thank you, you appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
So let's first talk about just Jared's two year window rule,
because I think we can really highlight this. There is
always gonna be things that you kind of want to do, right.
We all have ideas like, Oh, I should climb a fourteener,
you know, and yeah, I should do that. I should
(22:36):
talk to some people that do that. I should find
out what kind of gear I would need for that.
Oh I can't just go and do that tomorrow. I
have to train. Oh okay, I'm gonna give myself some
time to train. Oh I need some other people to
train with her. I'm gonna lose motivation, right, And so
it kind of builds into all this stuff. But if
we start with that angle and we can work our
way to a point in which we kind of have
a strategy that I think a two year window rule
(22:59):
is a really useful place for that, because then, like
you said before we started recording, sometimes you don't give
yourself enough time to actually achieve what you're thinking of achieving.
I think a lot of people think they're gonna move
to Nashville or move to LA and just get a
record deal, right, And that's not our listeners. Of course,
our listeners are much more realists than that. But it
(23:20):
is a common thing, right. It's something where people start
with that idea that's what they want, but they don't
go through all of the things that it might take
and the things they can do to increase their odds
of achieving that. And a two year window is a
really great way to kind of build that plan.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
And the two years also gives you a longer learning curve.
But once it clicks, it shoots straight up, so it's
got a you know, a wider tail to it. And
then that curve just shoots up and you start to
see things happen because of the community you surround yourself with.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
And if it's something that's brand new to you, it's
really important that you give yourself the outlet or the
access to the that's really going to be the most
crucial for you. And and I think that was really
useful that he talked about interning and how interning doesn't
have to only be for college aged students or someone
just out of college, right.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Yeah, absolutely, I think interning is a great way to
get to the heart of what you want to learn.
And you know, they say even now, you know you
should get paid for it. But if you have the
opportunity to absorb all that information, go for it.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
And I liked that you mentioned older students at colleges
because I've seen that too, and like you had mentioned
in the interview, that's so true that those are the
people that are the most clear on the information they're
trying to receive and the most open to receiving it,
and there's an attitude brought from that that gives them
so much more power to absorb more information than the
(24:46):
others around them.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Absolutely, I wish I would have learned more when I
was that young, stupid college kid being annoyed because I
wanted the class to be over with and they're asking
one more question. I should have been more curious to
be like, oh, this person really knows what they want
to do. Yeah, And all I hear right now is
all you really want to do is go on a fourteener.
So I think we should plan on a fourteen er hike.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Next time, something I've never done.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
He neither could camp early in the morning because you
have to leave like at five am. Right, you don't
want to be a mountain by afternoon because of the stone.
We could talk about that another podcast, our fourteeners podcasts.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
But we do have to keep that hunger of new
things and that hunger to learn how to do those things.
It's got to be just something in you. And we
talk about reading a lot. We talk about trying to
be around people that inspire you, people that intimidate you
with their talents, or people that are doing the damn
thing right. Those are the people you want to be around.
(25:50):
You need to find ways to keep yourself hungry to
learn more.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
I've been trading for two and a half years now,
and a friend, Jason, you live from high school, came
out to the show this weekend that we had here
in Madison. He lives like forty minutes away. And I
found out from a friend, not knowing that Jason even
did this. He was already coming, but he's been trading
for twenty years. She saw his face light up when
(26:14):
I was like, Uh, can we talk more about this
because I need someone to learn from And it was
almost like this thing like, oh, you want to talk
about that too. No matter what you know, never stop learning.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yep. Well, and hopefully that makes you more money. But
it is important to remember that money is not the
happiness solution, right. Jared really emphasized that in a way
that felt so honest. I mean, if you talk to
a lot of kids, my kids, I mean, and I
don't think this is from me. The kids these days
in America, when you ask them what they want when
(26:47):
they grow up, they go straight to money. They go
straight to having those fancy cars and having big houses
and having tons of money, tons of money. It's a
little concerning because if you ask kids in many other
countries where they perhaps don't have as much affluence, they're
going to talk about much more humbling things like a
(27:08):
fresh love of bread, or they're going to talk about
being more with their family. There's a concern to me
about the elements in which our kids are desiring their
goals in life. And that is definitely another podcast. But
it is important to see how as we grow we
realize the thing that motivates us, the thing that makes
(27:29):
us happy in the end, is not money, right. It
is the achievement of these things.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
I didn't have the opportunity to travel and play shows
overseas until well, I think I was forty and the
one thing that's kind of a full pause to ask
someone what they do for a living? They ask in
Ireland anyway, it was what do you do for fun?
And that changed the way I ask people questions now
(27:55):
because when I hear the first I want to know
what people do for fun more than I really care
how they make their money. So it's been nice to
meet new neighbors here in Madison say so, what do
you do for fun around here?
Speaker 4 (28:09):
What makes you happy? That's a great conversation starter, and
you have a longer conversation for sure.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
And that's what we do as musicians is what makes
us happy making songs, writing songs, playing music, playing shows
and getting together with other people and making music. And
I think if we can do that organically, we do
see results if we're putting those things in the right places.
And I think Jared's story about writing that song two
years earlier, by the way that that time frame is
(28:35):
not lost on us, and then having it become that
biggest opportunity that he had ever had without him really
having to try right, there was no stress put into it.
There was no concern. It just occurred because the things
that he was doing were headed towards that direction. Set
the stuff up right and headed towards that direction when
he went through that list for everyone, just a reminder
(28:58):
that you need to be on those organizations with your
music registered correctly and be ready to absorb those opportunities
when they come, which also brought in talking about the
organizations that he's a part of. This was such an
eye opener for me as an instructor at a university.
There are so many organizations that email us all the time,
(29:19):
and I really haven't become involved in any of them.
And that's only because I think that my idea of
how much time they're going to take turns me off
from being interested. But the truth is that I really
could benefit from them. And this was the kick in
the pants for me to say, you know what, I
need to be a part of these because a lot
of them are a lot of my comrades around that
(29:42):
community are a part of a lot of them, and
they really enjoy it, and it's nice to have an
influence on these programs that do good in the world.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
He inspired me as well.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
I wrote him to thank him for just showing up
the way he does. And our last podcast, I mentioned
Madison Music Makers and I reached out to them and
wrote them a shorty email and I said, I just
moved to town. If there's anything I can do to
help in any way, please feel.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Free to reach out. Let me know how I can
be a service.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
And if it wasn't for that podcast with him, I
don't know if I would have.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
It just pushed me to do it.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah, which is a great example of us using these
resources and this information to motivate us and move forward,
you know, and do things that we don't know how
to do yet because we're motivated and you're taking away
that fear, right, you're taking away that concept that it's
too hard or too far from where you are. He
had that idea of the three e's right, the expand, explore,
(30:38):
and elevate, which I have a hard time believing he
came up with that on the spot because it's so good.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
It was good, but at least we get.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
To emphasize it here because it really has a lot
of power to realize that if you are expanding, and
you are exploring, and you're elevating, these are three things
that are going to push you towards getting where you
want to get.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
I signed up for the Diary of a CEO, one
of his recommendations for a podcast. I realized, I've watched
more videos of that, gentlemen. I don't know what it
is with Spotify. Just like the music these days, you
don't hear the title of the podcast. You're just listening
to great information. But not that I've been listening to
that for a lot longer than I thought.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
It was.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
What other books he said, the Four Agreements.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Yeah, that was a good one to put on our list.
He did talk about some that we've had on the
list and that we both love as well. You know,
Napoleon Hill's book and The Alchemist is another great one.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Yeah, the Story of the Alchemist. I mean again, I
think I read that way later than I should. Have
to find out that you have what you need right
in front of you the whole time. You just have
to open your eyes. It was a great lesson.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
So our action step for you guys today is to
identify your main focus and build what you can to
give that focus a true, committed two year effort so
that you can get to that goal. Another way is
to identify what has passed the two year mark you're
continuing to work on right now and see if that
means that it's time to find a new strategy. The
(32:05):
main thing is that you're not sitting around wasting your
time thinking you're on your way towards that goal. This
is a way to keep yourself in check and rejuvenate
that goal. We know who your time is valuable and
we appreciate spending this time with us and being a
part of this community. It's our hope that you feel
that sense of community here at musicians tip jar and
that you help spread the word to make us stronger.
(32:26):
If you'd like to get hold of us, what's the
best way to do that?
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Send us an email at musicians tip jar at gmail.
Check out our website musicians tipjar dot com, where you
can check out all the resources and discounts we aflect
it for you. If you want to hear some of
Jared's music and learn more about them, look them up
on LinkedIn for sure, and then also Instagram at ja Riedluwa.
(32:51):
If you find this information useful, please rate, subscribe to
the podcast and like this video on YouTube because we
need more people to show up there. Because just keeps
getting emails about how we should grow our community there.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
And he sends them to me. Then I have to
have more meetings.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
We don't want to have more meetings, So please just hit.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
The like body as always, thank you for joining us.
Remember there is already enough for everyone, You just need
to know how to get it. Until next time on
behalf of day. Tampion and myself Chris Web stay happy,
healthy and wealthy. As Napoleon Hill say, don't wait. The
time will never be just right.
Speaker 8 (33:27):
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