September 24, 2024 • 28 mins
Just like my opening lines, we are all over the place today, highlighting our favorite moments and concepts from Season 4. These condensed tips are a powerhouse of ways to expand your reach and success in the music industry. Hard to believe we are at the end of another season here at Musicians Tip Jar.
This has been an incredibly value packed season full of inspiring guests and profitable insights. As is tradition here, we have done our best to condense the ideas and concepts that have had great influence on us each individually in hopes of giving you vantage points to launch from in the off season. Let's go!
Action: We tried to keep all the episode numbers with our top moments list so that you can go straight to the episode that inspires you. You must take action to keep yourself motivated and that needle moving.
** We know how valuable your time is, and we appreciate you spending this time with us and being a part of this community. It is our hope that you feel that sense of community here at musicians Tip Jar and help us spread the word to make us stronger together. www.musicianstipjar.com
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This has been an incredibly value packed season full of inspiring guests and profitable insights. As is tradition here, we have done our best to condense the ideas and concepts that have had great influence on us each individually in hopes of giving you vantage points to launch from in the off season. Let's go!
Action: We tried to keep all the episode numbers with our top moments list so that you can go straight to the episode that inspires you. You must take action to keep yourself motivated and that needle moving.
** We know how valuable your time is, and we appreciate you spending this time with us and being a part of this community. It is our hope that you feel that sense of community here at musicians Tip Jar and help us spread the word to make us stronger together. www.musicianstipjar.com
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the show that explores the methods and strategies
on rocking the financial side of your music business. With
over forty years combined experience, here are your hosts, Chris
Webb and Dave Tamkid.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome to Musicians Tipcar, where we talk about musicians and money.
In a world of so much rhetoric and not enough prosperitiness,
we want to move that needle in the direction of
the wealthy musician. I'm Chris Webb, joined by my co
host who can do anything with a needle and thread,
Dave Tamkin.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
And Chris Webb, who can take the English language and
make up words like prosperitiness. I mean hand in hand.
What we can do together as a team, it's just unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I'm pretty sure that word is legit nice. You can
put a niss next to almost to anything.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I was very impressed.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
No, you're right, it's just a miss listen ness. It's
like an ish well, just like my open end lines.
We are all over the place today highlighting our favorite
moments and concepts from season four. These condensed tips are
a powerhouse of ways to expand your reach and success
(01:20):
in the music industry. Today's quote comes from Tony Robbins.
He said, the path to success is to take massive,
determined action.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
This week's nonprofit is from Arvada, Colorado, mirror Image Arts
dot org. They're a youth advocacy organization disrupting the pipeline
to prison through restorative theater. The work is a collective
liberation for all. Mirror Image Arts uses theater as language
to inspire dialogue, encourage awareness, and promote action in order
(01:52):
to build a strong, compassionate and empowered community. Learn more
at mirror Image Arts dot org.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
And that's from our good buddy Andy Palmer, who kind
of is on the board for that nonprofit. Really great organization.
Hard to believe. We are at the end of another
season here at Musicians Tipjar. This has been an incredible
value packed season full of inspiring guests and profitable insights.
(02:19):
As a tradition here we have done our best to
condense the ideas and concepts that have had great influence
on us each individually in hopes to give you vantage
points to launch from in the off season. Let's go, Chris.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
When you were picking yours, are you starting with like
number one is the best? Or number ten? Is the best,
or they'll have their own.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I didn't really have like minor or no particular order,
you know, because I feel like I just kind of
was looking at, like, what are things that I've found
myself implementing from this season, and I kind of started
from that vantage point, right and I kind of decided
that I would just kind of list them out. So
I actually re ordered mine so that ours that are
the same are at the same time, so they're really
(03:22):
for me. They're in no order. Are yours in a
specific order?
Speaker 3 (03:25):
They're not. But I find it's so odd that we
picked some that were so close together.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I do think we have similar responses to some of these.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
About it's been a long season, so let's just.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Get started with these. Number one on my list is
from our interview with Trevor Hall, the great musician out
of Boulder. What a great time we had with that,
and how many different quotes I got from that. But
I just picked one that we really kind of emphasized
in that episode number two of season four when he
(04:07):
said everyone's not going to be on this ride with you,
but you have to let that go because this is
where I'm moving and I'm just trying to evolve. We're
always moving, all of us, and we cannot get slowed
down because we're trying to keep people with us when
they don't want to be.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
My first one is from that episode as well, where
he talks about building a supportive team and surrounding yourself
with positive influences and how that's important for mental well
being and success. And I will say even this move
to Madison, Wisconsin has made my friendship business relationship with
(04:48):
Brad Huffman even better than it was before. We seem
like we're more on the same page to start writing
again and show up for these songs and shows Differently.
Being closer to Brian Sansom, who I've been playing with
drums for twenty plus years is also nice to have
just that strong friendship that didn't have so much to
(05:10):
do with music over the last how many fifteen years,
but get to experience that again. And of course I
miss Chad, but now my phone calls with him are
even better, and when I get to see him, we
get to connect on so many different levels. You not
so much, but everybody else around me see's just be
very positive and.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
So moving on. Yeah, I do think there's something there
about not having as much time allows us to value
the time a little better and be more intentional with it.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Yeah, agreed.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
And that's the other thing about evolving, You know what
Trevor was talking about is that is that sometimes that
also clarifies the fact that you don't connect with other
people or they're just not a part of this next phase.
That's just like part of the reality that comes from
moving on, from evolving, from changing.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
We brought that up in the third episode to talk
about talking about the way Trevor brought up money in
his relationship with it and just the feeling of it
and the power it had, and we talked about how
to use that as a reminder to pay attention to
your relationship with money. It is an energy, neither good
nor bad, and what you and your emotions bring to
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it determines how you treat it and how it actually
treats you as well. So you want that relationship to
be healthy, not obsessive, not jealous, not fearful, but loving
and inspired and feel that you deserve that right to
have it be abundant in your life.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
So that's episode number three, that's your second one.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
It is Yeah, yeah, do you see how I kind
of brought that in, you know, it was just flow,
It was the energy flow.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Well, I definitely think that you have to treat money
like a bandmid That's something I use at the university
a lot. Is that analogy because I think it works
really well because you have to have a good relationship
with it. You have to connect with it, but you
can't get too close or it's a problem.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
My number two was creating financial independence our episode number
twenty four just last week, and that for me is
really an eye opener in the reality that I think
we've been approaching this wrong. Not the podcast, but the
idea of being artists. When we're talking about finance, it's
(07:31):
really for me clearer to think of it as let's
just get enough money so that we can continue doing
what we want to do, because really, if we simplified,
what we're always talking about is how can I do
that right? How can I have it so that money
isn't a factor anymore, that I can get what I
want when I need it, when I want it and
still be able to be an artist full time. Right,
(07:52):
So that concept really does translate into this idea of
financial independence. You are independent from the finances or the
pressure of focusing on and doing things all your life
energy towards finances. Instead, you're independent of that. So that episode,
to me has gotten me onto this whole nother kick
(08:14):
or I'm expanding onto these new books and I'm trying
to figure out how to implement it more into our
courses because I think that there's something there that we
can really utilize.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
When I speak at colleges, I talk about how musicians
can look at themselves and as entrepreneurs, that they show
up in ways that most people don't for a company
that they're building for themselves, and in that they're exploring
a different art form and it doesn't have to have
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a negative connotation to it, because you want to build
your art as a musician. And then there's this whole
other thing that if you open up and see how
you can move numbers around and make the numbers work
for you and make the numbers sound like music that
makes you feel good when you have a relationship with that,
(09:06):
just like you do your songs, it's a whole other
art form that you get to explore. They mingle with
each other, and they dance around each other, and one
gives benefit to the other that was something I had
to learn with This is like going into my third
one worth episode four about exploring like the hidden costs
associated with gigs. At first, that was something that was
(09:27):
so foreign to me, even having a relationship with money,
where say, if someone didn't give me money when they
said they would, and I owed the band money, I
had to take a relationship on with that promise to
my friends, saying that no matter what happens here, I
have to keep my word, just like I expected the
person for the gig to keep their word, but never
(09:50):
thinking about like the commitment for sound checks and set
up and travel gear, maintenance, insurance practice, including new songs
and the time it took, and even asking bandmates to
give up their time. You have to learn how to
make having a budget and forecasting an art form and
it'll make you feel better about the whole process.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
My number three, because it was so well packaged in
a nice, little simple concept, was episode twenty one with
Jared Alua when he talked about the two year rule. Man,
I just think when we can get into some concept
like this where it's like this is how we behave
two years is what you get on this new project?
Two years is what you set yourself up for, and
(10:31):
then you work backwards from the end goal and you
chunk it down into smaller, more achievable sections. If we'd
approach everything like that, you know how much more success
everyone would see. Man, it's just sometimes just I love
it when it resonates with just a simple rule like that.
So I'm going to implement that with my concept of
this financial independence that I'm researching. So I thought the
(10:52):
two worked really well together.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Well, I hope you don't have to overcome any limiting
beliefs with that, Chris, because that's an episode seven, and
that's number four we dug down into at least acknowledging
the imposter syndrome. And I'm not going to go over
all seven, but just some of the things that we're
talking about. Set realistic goals, challengeecative thoughts, practice self compassion,
(11:14):
surround yourself with positive influences like your friend Chris Webb,
who just treats you so kindly on a podcast. I
think those are the things we need to focus on.
And if you need me to help with you know,
season five and having this new concept of FI, I'm here.
I'm here for you.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Nice way to use the terminology. I'm with you on
that because that was actually one of my the overcoming
limiting beliefs was was on my short list because I
also thought that that's something that we don't have conversations
about enough, and so it was nice to have that
conversation and be very open about how we're always struggling
with our resilience and always struggling with our strength and progress.
(11:55):
I went to see a mostly at red Rocks the
other night, and I text you this that I think
it might have been one of the best concerts I've
ever seen. It was an absolutely amazing night. It was
perfect out, which really makes a difference at red Rocks,
but his energy and the band's energy and the audience
everyone was just there, you know. And towards the end
(12:16):
he said, you know, he was thanking everybody for being
there and being so kind, and he literally said, sometimes
when I'm sitting alone, I starts wondering if I actually
suck at this, And I just I took that moment
and I thought, man, how great that he can be
this honest on the stage and vulnerable and open about
(12:41):
what we all feel all the time, even at the
levels of success that he's Reached and other artists. You
have to recognize that you will always combat that reality,
that you will doubt yourself and you will have these
negative thoughts, and you will have to continue focusing on
overcoming limiting beliefs.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I wish I could have seen that concert. It was
good and you got to see what Joe James, which
makes it even that much better it was.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
My number four is procrastinate on purpose, which was as
a concept from episode nineteen where we talked about multiplying
your time. The idea of protesting on purpose has become
very valuable for me. I continuously order my lists now
at the beginning of each day with what needs to
get done and the stuff that I'm going to procrastinate
(13:31):
on purpose because it's okay, you know, there's always a
few things on my list that can go to that
part of the list, and it's caused me to become
more on top of the things that have to get done.
That's the reason I got this script done in time.
That's the reason I've got I mean, my life is
juggling so many things right now, and this concept of
(13:52):
prograsting on purpose has really helped me to allow less
stress into the situation. If you look at your list differently,
look at the things you have to get done with
an idea of some things have to and some things
can procrastinate on purpose, it releases stress from your situations.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Well, I don't need any help procrastinating on purpose. I
meditate on the fact that I'm trying to procrastinate less,
and then I go, well, not just procrastinate a little
bit more and meditate a little bit longer, though I
actually don't have to get do the stuff that I.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Need to get. It's very zen, yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Feeling good the whole time about it. My number five
is one hundredth episode. I'm just very proud of the
fact that we started this four years ago now and
we just keep showing up. And I'm very proud of
that because although there's times it seems like work never
stops me, that feeling of it being work never stops
me from wanting to show up and learn more and
(14:49):
interview more people and write this out and work on
our class together and all these things. And I find
that and this is where I bring Beck and Bird. Episode.
We talk about growth, wellness, family, craft, money, community, adventure, service,
all these pillars of wealth and Megan said something during
(15:10):
her interview. She's like, well, if you're not writing the songs,
that's what these pillars stand on. It's a foundation for
a songwriter. That is, I mean different strokes for different folks,
but for myself have so much fun doing this on
a weekly basis and doing the marketing and advertising and
the financial planning and the budgeting. It's sometimes my foundation
(15:35):
gets really thin, and it's because of the lack of
sitting down and writing songs. That is why I'm here
in the first place. So I really liked that episode
and following it up with Megan because, for whatever reason,
the way she said it that day has just stuck
in my head ever since.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
That's almost like a two fer because you're combined.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
To half of the episode half of one oh one.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Well, okay, so the one hundredth episode was episode number
ten if you're looking it up, depending on how you
see it on your list, but that was our one
hundredth episode where we talked about the Eight Pillars of Wealth,
which was a book that we based that on by
Robin Sharma Don't Squeeze the Sharma, And I put that
on my list too because I felt like that's a
good check in kind of thing to do every quarter
(16:22):
for your overall wealth. To check on your growth, check
on your wellness, see how your relationships are with your
friends and family, you know, check on how you're interacting
with the community. Though, all those pillars I think are
just a great checklist to kind of go back to,
and if we're going to connect that, I'll go to
My next one, which is from Megan Bert in episode twelve.
(16:44):
I had to take this quote from her because I've
used it now multiple times with students. If you don't
force yourself into creative deadlines, the creativity is not going
to happen. And the creativity is the part that the
rest of the business rests on.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
She emphasized that by saying songwriting shouldn't be over complicated.
It's just a couple verses and a repeating chorus, right.
Sometimes you just need to hear someone tell you like that,
like what are you sitting on for? Right? Like what
is this such a big deal? Just finish the song,
show up and write it, you know. So I thought
that was a great one too.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
My sixth one is Brennan James episode episode I Guess thirteen,
going back and forth between one hundredth episode and what season,
what episode within the season. He said, all these labels
were seeing this clay in me and this SRaw thing,
but no one could refine it except for time, experience
and touring. As I have moved out to Madison, a
(17:43):
new community, and also I have new instruments around me
that aren't as easy to play as I thought they
were going to be. I've had this new opportunity, almost
like a permission, looking at someone else's career and how
he could even say to himself that only time would
(18:03):
make me better at this because we get to talk
about these things every week. Every time I get down
on myself, I'm like, well, by tomorrow, I'll be a
little bit better at this. Next week, I'm going to
own this song. And it's been nice coming from someone
who is not only so established in his style, his songwriting,
his voice is playing creative way of doing things. It's
(18:25):
nice to know that he too, also started from somewhere
with uncertainty.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
For me too, that was actually my number six because
I just did by last two in a row.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Just I feel like, do you have cameras while I'm
writing these things out?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Episode thirteen from James Brendan James's interview is yes, I
have a camera in your bathroom now. It inspired me
too because he's one of those people we interviewed that
has had such massive amounts of success and opportunity, right,
had signed multiple major label deals, and we don't always
talk to that people that have gone that have gone
(19:02):
through that part of the path. Right. And even for
him to stand there just like a most leop on
stage being vulnerable, for Brennan to say moving forward is
important despite the challenges and trusting things the things will
happen when you're ready. I think it's really comforting because
I mean, even the students at the school, they feel
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like they're already too late. A lot of them feel
like they're already behind where they need to be because
of their age. And the idea is it has to
be reframed. The point of this one for me is
that it has to be reframed to be that you
aren't ready yet then right like, things happen when you're ready.
We had that conversation with Mike Maher too that it's
really about sometimes trusting that what do you want is
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still what you want. It will happen when you're ready.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Yeah, And not to give mister James too much credit,
he did sit.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Down while he was saying that, Well, I'll go next.
My number seven was from episode eighteen when we talked
about talent stacking and how it can help you find
the best value you can offer. I think this is
how everyone can stand out in an overcrowded market now.
And that's a constant question I get is how do
I make a dent in the music industry anymore? How
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do I make a dent on social media anymore? How
do I offer anything unique? And I think this is
the easiest answer to give to that, which is why
I think it's so powerful that you can look at
the things that make you individual and they don't all
have to be like things that no one else does.
They just when you put them together, that talent stacking
and combination gives you a unique set of.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Value, nicely said. My next one is Big Fish Booking
episode fifteen, when Christina Priceman said that she wasn't going
to wait around for someone to book these bands to
do these things for her, and musicians should not do
that either, And so many times, even in parallel with
what you were just saying about songwriting, they can wait
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around forever for someone to do it or for us
to get to it, but it ends up we're the
ones in charge of our future, our career, our creativity,
and if we can't show up for ourselves, we can't
expect other people to do it for us.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I put that on my list too. That was my
number nine here was from episode sixteen with Big Fish
Booking Agency too, because she said you have to say
yes to those opportunities when you want them, even if
you don't feel like you're ready. And we've seen the
examples of that over and over again from success stories
that the difference came from doing exactly that, saying yes
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because you want it despite the fact that you don't
feel you're ready.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Number eight was episode seventeen, The Quickest Way to Get
More Cash episode how to get Things done the way
you need to get them done and if it means
making more money, be creative about it, put your business
hat on and get it done.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
I definitely put that tip jar into play with the
QR code, and I've mentioned this before that that immediately
increased my tip numbers significantly. It made a difference, and
I've got a few new followers on my on some
of my social media platforms, and I don't do anything
on there, so having them just be able to find them,
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it has increased that whether or not I'll do anything
with it, we'll find out. Betwe Number nine.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Number nine is the Power of Showing Up with Jared
Alua episode twenty Not Perfect but Present that book Tina
Pine Bryson, author of the Power of Showing Up. And
that's what you and I do every week for each other,
and we try to be better musicians, better people for it.
And it's a powerful lesson. And if that's all you
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have to do, just get things going, to show up,
maybe it's a little easier than you might think.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, it's almost that we have to rethink why we
have to show up. I've noticed that if I don't
show up to do something that I have on my list,
it haunts me. I feel regret about it. I've also
noticed that with students and with people that are trying
to hit a goal, the number one factor is whether
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they show up. If they show up to class, if
they show up with the project, if they show up
with the co write, if they show up with the
work that they had to promise you that they were
going to do. It always ends up being the main
determining factor. Such a simple concept, but for some reason,
one of the biggest blockers for so many. So this
(23:32):
brings us to our Last Ones for Me episode eight,
when we interview Don Jones with she's a publicist and
we talked to her about her company and the way
that they have built more of a trusted relationship with
the people they work with, and she talked really well
about how to prepare so that you are ready for
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being a part of a promotions company, so that they
would even want to take you on. So often we're
just waiting for this golden horse to come down and
pick us up. And that's what we would love to have,
and that's what a lot of people thought about with
record labels too. But we have to realize that no
one's coming to save you, right, no one's coming. You
have to do this. You have to get yourself into
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a place in your business, your brand, your sound to
a place where it's ready to be taken by anyone
else's horse. And that's how she really did a great
job of explaining how to get your company ready so
that they'd be even interested in taking you on.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
My horse would be a pegasus from Clash of the
Titans picture a gold horse. I just thought that was interesting.
I guess that's the money, the gold horse, and would
be a white flying pegasus, maybe green intensive green, the
money American money. My number ten is quote by Mike Mauer.
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All the money and all the details will go away.
What really matters is how you make people feel. And
I think if we could show up every day to
try to lift people up and to remember to lift
ourselves up, all of these things will fall into place.
That was the best quote for me for the entire season,
because that's what we do.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
And so we'll leave you with one last action step.
We tried to keep all the episode numbers with our
top moments that we just talked about so that you
can go straight to that episode. It might be that
you need to prepare for something, or your brand for something,
and one of these episodes will help give you the
insights to get that done. Remember, showing up is really
what we're all trying to help each other do here.
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So you must take action to keep yourself motivated and
to keep that needle moving. And we know your time
is valuable and We appreciate you spending this time with
us and being a part of this community. Is our
hope that you feel that sense of community here and
that you help spread the word to make us all stronger.
If you'd like to get a hold of us, especially
(25:55):
during the off season, what's the easiest way to do that?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
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Speaker 2 (26:18):
We also want to thank you all for being on
this journey of this show and this education platform that
we've created. We're growing and evolving towards something bigger and
that is all because of you and your support and
your engagement. So also a special thank you to all
our guests this season for sharing their stories, their experiences,
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and all of their wisdom with all of us. We've
learned so much. And Dave, thank you for showing up
with me and continuing to keep me on par are
you kidding?
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Thank you for always looking so nice every week, got
an white shirt on, got a new haircut just last
week from last time we talked. You know what I'm
going to grow next next season. No more hats shirts,
the show up just a little bit, a little bit
more dressed up.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Well as always. Thank you for joining us, and remember
there is already enough for everyone. You just need to
know how to get it until next time. On behalf
of Dave Tampkin and myself Chris Webb, Stay happy, healthy
and wealthy. The distance between your dreams and success is
only that of taking action. This is Musicians Tip.
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all discussed strategies have the potential for profit. Lass operating
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Speaker 1 (28:00):
Said they don't help, Then get you some help. Get
you said they don't help that, and get you some help.
Confuse that they don't help it
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Mm hmmm
Welcome to the show that explores the methods and strategies
on rocking the financial side of your music business. With
over forty years combined experience, here are your hosts, Chris
Webb and Dave Tamkid.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome to Musicians Tipcar, where we talk about musicians and money.
In a world of so much rhetoric and not enough prosperitiness,
we want to move that needle in the direction of
the wealthy musician. I'm Chris Webb, joined by my co
host who can do anything with a needle and thread,
Dave Tamkin.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
And Chris Webb, who can take the English language and
make up words like prosperitiness. I mean hand in hand.
What we can do together as a team, it's just unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I'm pretty sure that word is legit nice. You can
put a niss next to almost to anything.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I was very impressed.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
No, you're right, it's just a miss listen ness. It's
like an ish well, just like my open end lines.
We are all over the place today highlighting our favorite
moments and concepts from season four. These condensed tips are
a powerhouse of ways to expand your reach and success
(01:20):
in the music industry. Today's quote comes from Tony Robbins.
He said, the path to success is to take massive,
determined action.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
This week's nonprofit is from Arvada, Colorado, mirror Image Arts
dot org. They're a youth advocacy organization disrupting the pipeline
to prison through restorative theater. The work is a collective
liberation for all. Mirror Image Arts uses theater as language
to inspire dialogue, encourage awareness, and promote action in order
(01:52):
to build a strong, compassionate and empowered community. Learn more
at mirror Image Arts dot org.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
And that's from our good buddy Andy Palmer, who kind
of is on the board for that nonprofit. Really great organization.
Hard to believe. We are at the end of another
season here at Musicians Tipjar. This has been an incredible
value packed season full of inspiring guests and profitable insights.
(02:19):
As a tradition here we have done our best to
condense the ideas and concepts that have had great influence
on us each individually in hopes to give you vantage
points to launch from in the off season. Let's go, Chris.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
When you were picking yours, are you starting with like
number one is the best? Or number ten? Is the best,
or they'll have their own.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I didn't really have like minor or no particular order,
you know, because I feel like I just kind of
was looking at, like, what are things that I've found
myself implementing from this season, and I kind of started
from that vantage point, right and I kind of decided
that I would just kind of list them out. So
I actually re ordered mine so that ours that are
the same are at the same time, so they're really
(03:22):
for me. They're in no order. Are yours in a
specific order?
Speaker 3 (03:25):
They're not. But I find it's so odd that we
picked some that were so close together.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I do think we have similar responses to some of these.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
About it's been a long season, so let's just.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Get started with these. Number one on my list is
from our interview with Trevor Hall, the great musician out
of Boulder. What a great time we had with that,
and how many different quotes I got from that. But
I just picked one that we really kind of emphasized
in that episode number two of season four when he
(04:07):
said everyone's not going to be on this ride with you,
but you have to let that go because this is
where I'm moving and I'm just trying to evolve. We're
always moving, all of us, and we cannot get slowed
down because we're trying to keep people with us when
they don't want to be.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
My first one is from that episode as well, where
he talks about building a supportive team and surrounding yourself
with positive influences and how that's important for mental well
being and success. And I will say even this move
to Madison, Wisconsin has made my friendship business relationship with
(04:48):
Brad Huffman even better than it was before. We seem
like we're more on the same page to start writing
again and show up for these songs and shows Differently.
Being closer to Brian Sansom, who I've been playing with
drums for twenty plus years is also nice to have
just that strong friendship that didn't have so much to
(05:10):
do with music over the last how many fifteen years,
but get to experience that again. And of course I
miss Chad, but now my phone calls with him are
even better, and when I get to see him, we
get to connect on so many different levels. You not
so much, but everybody else around me see's just be
very positive and.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
So moving on. Yeah, I do think there's something there
about not having as much time allows us to value
the time a little better and be more intentional with it.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Yeah, agreed.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
And that's the other thing about evolving, You know what
Trevor was talking about is that is that sometimes that
also clarifies the fact that you don't connect with other
people or they're just not a part of this next phase.
That's just like part of the reality that comes from
moving on, from evolving, from changing.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
We brought that up in the third episode to talk
about talking about the way Trevor brought up money in
his relationship with it and just the feeling of it
and the power it had, and we talked about how
to use that as a reminder to pay attention to
your relationship with money. It is an energy, neither good
nor bad, and what you and your emotions bring to
(06:24):
it determines how you treat it and how it actually
treats you as well. So you want that relationship to
be healthy, not obsessive, not jealous, not fearful, but loving
and inspired and feel that you deserve that right to
have it be abundant in your life.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
So that's episode number three, that's your second one.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
It is Yeah, yeah, do you see how I kind
of brought that in, you know, it was just flow,
It was the energy flow.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Well, I definitely think that you have to treat money
like a bandmid That's something I use at the university
a lot. Is that analogy because I think it works
really well because you have to have a good relationship
with it. You have to connect with it, but you
can't get too close or it's a problem.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
My number two was creating financial independence our episode number
twenty four just last week, and that for me is
really an eye opener in the reality that I think
we've been approaching this wrong. Not the podcast, but the
idea of being artists. When we're talking about finance, it's
(07:31):
really for me clearer to think of it as let's
just get enough money so that we can continue doing
what we want to do, because really, if we simplified,
what we're always talking about is how can I do
that right? How can I have it so that money
isn't a factor anymore, that I can get what I
want when I need it, when I want it and
still be able to be an artist full time. Right,
(07:52):
So that concept really does translate into this idea of
financial independence. You are independent from the finances or the
pressure of focusing on and doing things all your life
energy towards finances. Instead, you're independent of that. So that episode,
to me has gotten me onto this whole nother kick
(08:14):
or I'm expanding onto these new books and I'm trying
to figure out how to implement it more into our
courses because I think that there's something there that we
can really utilize.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
When I speak at colleges, I talk about how musicians
can look at themselves and as entrepreneurs, that they show
up in ways that most people don't for a company
that they're building for themselves, and in that they're exploring
a different art form and it doesn't have to have
(08:44):
a negative connotation to it, because you want to build
your art as a musician. And then there's this whole
other thing that if you open up and see how
you can move numbers around and make the numbers work
for you and make the numbers sound like music that
makes you feel good when you have a relationship with that,
(09:06):
just like you do your songs, it's a whole other
art form that you get to explore. They mingle with
each other, and they dance around each other, and one
gives benefit to the other that was something I had
to learn with This is like going into my third
one worth episode four about exploring like the hidden costs
associated with gigs. At first, that was something that was
(09:27):
so foreign to me, even having a relationship with money,
where say, if someone didn't give me money when they
said they would, and I owed the band money, I
had to take a relationship on with that promise to
my friends, saying that no matter what happens here, I
have to keep my word, just like I expected the
person for the gig to keep their word, but never
(09:50):
thinking about like the commitment for sound checks and set
up and travel gear, maintenance, insurance practice, including new songs
and the time it took, and even asking bandmates to
give up their time. You have to learn how to
make having a budget and forecasting an art form and
it'll make you feel better about the whole process.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
My number three, because it was so well packaged in
a nice, little simple concept, was episode twenty one with
Jared Alua when he talked about the two year rule. Man,
I just think when we can get into some concept
like this where it's like this is how we behave
two years is what you get on this new project?
Two years is what you set yourself up for, and
(10:31):
then you work backwards from the end goal and you
chunk it down into smaller, more achievable sections. If we'd
approach everything like that, you know how much more success
everyone would see. Man, it's just sometimes just I love
it when it resonates with just a simple rule like that.
So I'm going to implement that with my concept of
this financial independence that I'm researching. So I thought the
(10:52):
two worked really well together.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Well, I hope you don't have to overcome any limiting
beliefs with that, Chris, because that's an episode seven, and
that's number four we dug down into at least acknowledging
the imposter syndrome. And I'm not going to go over
all seven, but just some of the things that we're
talking about. Set realistic goals, challengeecative thoughts, practice self compassion,
(11:14):
surround yourself with positive influences like your friend Chris Webb,
who just treats you so kindly on a podcast. I
think those are the things we need to focus on.
And if you need me to help with you know,
season five and having this new concept of FI, I'm here.
I'm here for you.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Nice way to use the terminology. I'm with you on
that because that was actually one of my the overcoming
limiting beliefs was was on my short list because I
also thought that that's something that we don't have conversations
about enough, and so it was nice to have that
conversation and be very open about how we're always struggling
with our resilience and always struggling with our strength and progress.
(11:55):
I went to see a mostly at red Rocks the
other night, and I text you this that I think
it might have been one of the best concerts I've
ever seen. It was an absolutely amazing night. It was
perfect out, which really makes a difference at red Rocks,
but his energy and the band's energy and the audience
everyone was just there, you know. And towards the end
(12:16):
he said, you know, he was thanking everybody for being
there and being so kind, and he literally said, sometimes
when I'm sitting alone, I starts wondering if I actually
suck at this, And I just I took that moment
and I thought, man, how great that he can be
this honest on the stage and vulnerable and open about
(12:41):
what we all feel all the time, even at the
levels of success that he's Reached and other artists. You
have to recognize that you will always combat that reality,
that you will doubt yourself and you will have these
negative thoughts, and you will have to continue focusing on
overcoming limiting beliefs.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I wish I could have seen that concert. It was
good and you got to see what Joe James, which
makes it even that much better it was.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
My number four is procrastinate on purpose, which was as
a concept from episode nineteen where we talked about multiplying
your time. The idea of protesting on purpose has become
very valuable for me. I continuously order my lists now
at the beginning of each day with what needs to
get done and the stuff that I'm going to procrastinate
(13:31):
on purpose because it's okay, you know, there's always a
few things on my list that can go to that
part of the list, and it's caused me to become
more on top of the things that have to get done.
That's the reason I got this script done in time.
That's the reason I've got I mean, my life is
juggling so many things right now, and this concept of
(13:52):
prograsting on purpose has really helped me to allow less
stress into the situation. If you look at your list differently,
look at the things you have to get done with
an idea of some things have to and some things
can procrastinate on purpose, it releases stress from your situations.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Well, I don't need any help procrastinating on purpose. I
meditate on the fact that I'm trying to procrastinate less,
and then I go, well, not just procrastinate a little
bit more and meditate a little bit longer, though I
actually don't have to get do the stuff that I.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Need to get. It's very zen, yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Feeling good the whole time about it. My number five
is one hundredth episode. I'm just very proud of the
fact that we started this four years ago now and
we just keep showing up. And I'm very proud of
that because although there's times it seems like work never
stops me, that feeling of it being work never stops
me from wanting to show up and learn more and
(14:49):
interview more people and write this out and work on
our class together and all these things. And I find
that and this is where I bring Beck and Bird. Episode.
We talk about growth, wellness, family, craft, money, community, adventure, service,
all these pillars of wealth and Megan said something during
(15:10):
her interview. She's like, well, if you're not writing the songs,
that's what these pillars stand on. It's a foundation for
a songwriter. That is, I mean different strokes for different folks,
but for myself have so much fun doing this on
a weekly basis and doing the marketing and advertising and
the financial planning and the budgeting. It's sometimes my foundation
(15:35):
gets really thin, and it's because of the lack of
sitting down and writing songs. That is why I'm here
in the first place. So I really liked that episode
and following it up with Megan because, for whatever reason,
the way she said it that day has just stuck
in my head ever since.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
That's almost like a two fer because you're combined.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
To half of the episode half of one oh one.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Well, okay, so the one hundredth episode was episode number
ten if you're looking it up, depending on how you
see it on your list, but that was our one
hundredth episode where we talked about the Eight Pillars of Wealth,
which was a book that we based that on by
Robin Sharma Don't Squeeze the Sharma, And I put that
on my list too because I felt like that's a
good check in kind of thing to do every quarter
(16:22):
for your overall wealth. To check on your growth, check
on your wellness, see how your relationships are with your
friends and family, you know, check on how you're interacting
with the community. Though, all those pillars I think are
just a great checklist to kind of go back to,
and if we're going to connect that, I'll go to
My next one, which is from Megan Bert in episode twelve.
(16:44):
I had to take this quote from her because I've
used it now multiple times with students. If you don't
force yourself into creative deadlines, the creativity is not going
to happen. And the creativity is the part that the
rest of the business rests on.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
She emphasized that by saying songwriting shouldn't be over complicated.
It's just a couple verses and a repeating chorus, right.
Sometimes you just need to hear someone tell you like that,
like what are you sitting on for? Right? Like what
is this such a big deal? Just finish the song,
show up and write it, you know. So I thought
that was a great one too.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
My sixth one is Brennan James episode episode I Guess thirteen,
going back and forth between one hundredth episode and what season,
what episode within the season. He said, all these labels
were seeing this clay in me and this SRaw thing,
but no one could refine it except for time, experience
and touring. As I have moved out to Madison, a
(17:43):
new community, and also I have new instruments around me
that aren't as easy to play as I thought they
were going to be. I've had this new opportunity, almost
like a permission, looking at someone else's career and how
he could even say to himself that only time would
(18:03):
make me better at this because we get to talk
about these things every week. Every time I get down
on myself, I'm like, well, by tomorrow, I'll be a
little bit better at this. Next week, I'm going to
own this song. And it's been nice coming from someone
who is not only so established in his style, his songwriting,
his voice is playing creative way of doing things. It's
(18:25):
nice to know that he too, also started from somewhere
with uncertainty.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
For me too, that was actually my number six because
I just did by last two in a row.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Just I feel like, do you have cameras while I'm
writing these things out?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Episode thirteen from James Brendan James's interview is yes, I
have a camera in your bathroom now. It inspired me
too because he's one of those people we interviewed that
has had such massive amounts of success and opportunity, right,
had signed multiple major label deals, and we don't always
talk to that people that have gone that have gone
(19:02):
through that part of the path. Right. And even for
him to stand there just like a most leop on
stage being vulnerable, for Brennan to say moving forward is
important despite the challenges and trusting things the things will
happen when you're ready. I think it's really comforting because
I mean, even the students at the school, they feel
(19:25):
like they're already too late. A lot of them feel
like they're already behind where they need to be because
of their age. And the idea is it has to
be reframed. The point of this one for me is
that it has to be reframed to be that you
aren't ready yet then right like, things happen when you're ready.
We had that conversation with Mike Maher too that it's
really about sometimes trusting that what do you want is
(19:49):
still what you want. It will happen when you're ready.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Yeah, And not to give mister James too much credit,
he did sit.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Down while he was saying that, Well, I'll go next.
My number seven was from episode eighteen when we talked
about talent stacking and how it can help you find
the best value you can offer. I think this is
how everyone can stand out in an overcrowded market now.
And that's a constant question I get is how do
I make a dent in the music industry anymore? How
(20:17):
do I make a dent on social media anymore? How
do I offer anything unique? And I think this is
the easiest answer to give to that, which is why
I think it's so powerful that you can look at
the things that make you individual and they don't all
have to be like things that no one else does.
They just when you put them together, that talent stacking
and combination gives you a unique set of.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Value, nicely said. My next one is Big Fish Booking
episode fifteen, when Christina Priceman said that she wasn't going
to wait around for someone to book these bands to
do these things for her, and musicians should not do
that either, And so many times, even in parallel with
what you were just saying about songwriting, they can wait
(20:59):
around forever for someone to do it or for us
to get to it, but it ends up we're the
ones in charge of our future, our career, our creativity,
and if we can't show up for ourselves, we can't
expect other people to do it for us.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I put that on my list too. That was my
number nine here was from episode sixteen with Big Fish
Booking Agency too, because she said you have to say
yes to those opportunities when you want them, even if
you don't feel like you're ready. And we've seen the
examples of that over and over again from success stories
that the difference came from doing exactly that, saying yes
(21:38):
because you want it despite the fact that you don't
feel you're ready.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Number eight was episode seventeen, The Quickest Way to Get
More Cash episode how to get Things done the way
you need to get them done and if it means
making more money, be creative about it, put your business
hat on and get it done.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
I definitely put that tip jar into play with the
QR code, and I've mentioned this before that that immediately
increased my tip numbers significantly. It made a difference, and
I've got a few new followers on my on some
of my social media platforms, and I don't do anything
on there, so having them just be able to find them,
(22:18):
it has increased that whether or not I'll do anything
with it, we'll find out. Betwe Number nine.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Number nine is the Power of Showing Up with Jared
Alua episode twenty Not Perfect but Present that book Tina
Pine Bryson, author of the Power of Showing Up. And
that's what you and I do every week for each other,
and we try to be better musicians, better people for it.
And it's a powerful lesson. And if that's all you
(22:47):
have to do, just get things going, to show up,
maybe it's a little easier than you might think.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, it's almost that we have to rethink why we
have to show up. I've noticed that if I don't
show up to do something that I have on my list,
it haunts me. I feel regret about it. I've also
noticed that with students and with people that are trying
to hit a goal, the number one factor is whether
(23:12):
they show up. If they show up to class, if
they show up with the project, if they show up
with the co write, if they show up with the
work that they had to promise you that they were
going to do. It always ends up being the main
determining factor. Such a simple concept, but for some reason,
one of the biggest blockers for so many. So this
(23:32):
brings us to our Last Ones for Me episode eight,
when we interview Don Jones with she's a publicist and
we talked to her about her company and the way
that they have built more of a trusted relationship with
the people they work with, and she talked really well
about how to prepare so that you are ready for
(23:53):
being a part of a promotions company, so that they
would even want to take you on. So often we're
just waiting for this golden horse to come down and
pick us up. And that's what we would love to have,
and that's what a lot of people thought about with
record labels too. But we have to realize that no
one's coming to save you, right, no one's coming. You
have to do this. You have to get yourself into
(24:16):
a place in your business, your brand, your sound to
a place where it's ready to be taken by anyone
else's horse. And that's how she really did a great
job of explaining how to get your company ready so
that they'd be even interested in taking you on.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
My horse would be a pegasus from Clash of the
Titans picture a gold horse. I just thought that was interesting.
I guess that's the money, the gold horse, and would
be a white flying pegasus, maybe green intensive green, the
money American money. My number ten is quote by Mike Mauer.
(24:52):
All the money and all the details will go away.
What really matters is how you make people feel. And
I think if we could show up every day to
try to lift people up and to remember to lift
ourselves up, all of these things will fall into place.
That was the best quote for me for the entire season,
because that's what we do.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
And so we'll leave you with one last action step.
We tried to keep all the episode numbers with our
top moments that we just talked about so that you
can go straight to that episode. It might be that
you need to prepare for something, or your brand for something,
and one of these episodes will help give you the
insights to get that done. Remember, showing up is really
what we're all trying to help each other do here.
(25:35):
So you must take action to keep yourself motivated and
to keep that needle moving. And we know your time
is valuable and We appreciate you spending this time with
us and being a part of this community. Is our
hope that you feel that sense of community here and
that you help spread the word to make us all stronger.
If you'd like to get a hold of us, especially
(25:55):
during the off season, what's the easiest way to do that?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Musicians tip to our Gmail and resistancetipjar dot com, where
you can check out all the resources and discounts we
have collected just for you. Check out all our episodes
now on our YouTube channel if you find this information,
so please rate, subscribe to the podcast and slam that
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you on the finance side of your music business.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
We also want to thank you all for being on
this journey of this show and this education platform that
we've created. We're growing and evolving towards something bigger and
that is all because of you and your support and
your engagement. So also a special thank you to all
our guests this season for sharing their stories, their experiences,
(26:40):
and all of their wisdom with all of us. We've
learned so much. And Dave, thank you for showing up
with me and continuing to keep me on par are
you kidding?
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Thank you for always looking so nice every week, got
an white shirt on, got a new haircut just last
week from last time we talked. You know what I'm
going to grow next next season. No more hats shirts,
the show up just a little bit, a little bit
more dressed up.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Well as always. Thank you for joining us, and remember
there is already enough for everyone. You just need to
know how to get it until next time. On behalf
of Dave Tampkin and myself Chris Webb, Stay happy, healthy
and wealthy. The distance between your dreams and success is
only that of taking action. This is Musicians Tip.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Jack, Somebody, somebody.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Nothing on this show should be considered specific, personal or
professional advice. Please consultant appropriate, text, legal, business, or financial
professional for individualized advice. Individual results are not guaranteed, and
all discussed strategies have the potential for profit. Lass operating
on behalf of Musicians Tip Joel Play.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Said they don't help, Then get you some help. Get
you said they don't help that, and get you some help.
Confuse that they don't help it
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Mm hmmm
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