September 13, 2024 • 57 mins
Joining me is life coach, Carina Marshall. Carina's book, “Discover & Use Your Greatest Superpower: Metaphysics, Spirituality, & Bubble Gum”, comprehensively explores metaphysics and spirituality, providing practical tools to navigate today's challenges. With a focus on personal empowerment and a vibrational universe, the book is designed to guide individuals towards a conscious and fulfilling life. www.unlimitedself.us
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At heart, Carina is a vibrational transformation coach, passionate about serving others on the deepest level through promoting "vibrational living." She is a certified Master Life Coach (MLC), Life & Spiritual Mentor (LSM), and meditation teacher, having practiced Kriya Yoga for decades. Carina believes the world is in transition, and a new world needs a new perspective. With her global experiences and dedication to empowering individuals, Carina offers an intuitive and practical approach to help people feel empowered and overcome challenges. She resides in Los Angeles with her soul mate Craig (a yoga monk for 35 years) and their cat Sita, her "Zen teacher."
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At heart, Carina is a vibrational transformation coach, passionate about serving others on the deepest level through promoting "vibrational living." She is a certified Master Life Coach (MLC), Life & Spiritual Mentor (LSM), and meditation teacher, having practiced Kriya Yoga for decades. Carina believes the world is in transition, and a new world needs a new perspective. With her global experiences and dedication to empowering individuals, Carina offers an intuitive and practical approach to help people feel empowered and overcome challenges. She resides in Los Angeles with her soul mate Craig (a yoga monk for 35 years) and their cat Sita, her "Zen teacher."
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
You're listening to Mystic Lounge with Alan B. Smith, rebroadcast
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Speaker 2 (00:53):
However you are and whenever you are, welcome, good souls
to Mystic Lounge. This is Alan B. Smith. You're most grateful,
Thank you so much for joining us. Tonight. We have
a fantastic guest. Her name is Karina Marshall and she
is the author of Discover and Use Your Greatest Superpower, Metaphysics,
Spirituality and bubble Gum. So we'll find out what the
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bubble gum means in just a moment. In the meantime,
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every week jumping into chat. Hey, Maria, it's good to
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see you there, and we do kind of wander around
the sort of self help arena, if you will, and
that's because it really is kind of connected to what
we discuss here metaphysics, spirituality and even the paranormal and supernatural,
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but just practical, every day useful information. And that's what
we're going to be talking about tonight with Karina Marshall. Karina,
welcome to Mystic Lounge.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
How are you, hi, Alan, It's great to be at
Mystic Lounge.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
The lounge is open to everyone, so we will get
to what you mean by a bubble gum. I find
this really intriguing. What I do sense from it is
that there's this sort of implicit sense of joy in
the work that you do. And that's something that I
that I really appreciate because we discuss the dark Knight
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of the soul and other challenging aspects of our psyches
and being humans. So how do we go from that
place and find our place in a place of joy?
So if you can tell us your story and how
you evolved, what got you to be the person that
promotes these tools for living.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Well, yes, well, I think that each person through. First
of all, I'm in my sixth decade of life, so
so in each decade, if I look back, I have
grown mentally, physically, and emotionally. And at each decade, I
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would ask myself who am I? And what is my purpose?
And what is all of this that I'm seeing around me,
whether it's business, my role at work, or my relationships,
my family, my daughter. And asking these questions, at least
for me, has led me to increasing clarity that the
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overall purpose of our lives is really self realization. And
that purpose of self realization, I came across a lot
of studies related to metaphysics, paranormal spirituality, and I realized
that everything is interconnected. And I know your readers and
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you yourself, You're not You're not strangers to all these concepts.
And coming to California eleven twelve years ago just also
enhanced my my vibrational energy. If you if.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I can introduce that in California, did yes? Okay?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
And that really helped. And I had been always as
a kid, I've always had some psychic influences and psychic
experiences growing up in the Philippines. My mother, I believe
looking back, as really a psychic person as well. And
through the years, I've just had some very strong intuitive
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experiences that led me to pursue more interest in looking
at what is this all about? And here I am
right now.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
We're always, I think, thinking about what is this all about?
It's an ever present question that permeates all of these conversations.
You promote meditation, and I think that there is a
lot to that. Here's my question about MOI metivation meditation.
Why is it that everyone who meditates regularly, people like yourself,
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promote it, encourage it, speak to the benefits of it,
and yet so many people won't do it or won't
come I won't even just try it in the first place.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
That's a great question, Alan, well I started. Let me
share with you that my introduction to meditation was through contemplation.
I lived in Dubai, the Middle East in the eighties,
and because it was sort of you know, being a
woman in an Arab country, my exposure and social life
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was very limited. I learned to contemplate and it was
really wonderful to hear the Muslims they do their prayers
throughout the day, so that even kind of introduced me
to self reflection. And when I went back to my home,
I learned about meditation because I realized that there was
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so much noise in our minds, and I stumbled upon
the books of paramahanse Yogananda, which is part of the
Self Realization Fellowship group, and I learned some very basic
and important meditation techniques that has helped me through the
years silence my mind from all the chatter and all
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the distractions. You're right, because, especially with the multimedia availability
that we have in the digital world today, it's so
easy to be distracted and to act things in our
lives based on what we're seeing in media. However, if
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we really want to be to have a purposeful and
intentional life as far as where we want to go,
it's really important to sort of get that, have that
silence in the mind, get away from the distraction, even
half an hour a day, and uh and just go within.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
And would you would you with a half an hour?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I would stay with five to ten minutes. Okay, half
an hour is pretty long for a starter, and it
could be just three minutes, but you build up on it,
you know, as you go along and they'll come at time,
and I promise you this, They'll come a time when
you'll really look forward to it and you really love it.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, it's true. When I actually do it, I love it.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I do.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
And you know, it's not one of those things, honest
to goodness. It's one of those things where it's like
working out and going to the gym, and it's a
long term investment. You benefit from it immediately. Oh yeah,
not only are your calmer kind of like blood pressure
is lower, like right afterwards, but the next day I
can feel the difference even if I just meditated for
like fifteen twenty minutes.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Yeah, And you know, we're not born all of us
are not born to be like meditators or monks or monastics.
We are here also to celebrate life, you know, to
really engage. But having those tools, the tool of meditation
and breathing exercise helps us to balance that a little
bit more.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah. You know, we I love elation when those those highs,
those joys. We I love flamboyant people, bombastic people.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I love.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I had a history teacher and classy you would whisper
really close like this and get down, and I just
love that range of human experience. Oh yes, when we're
if we get super super mindful, centered, meditated, you know,
do we give up that kind of the spikes of
elation and joy and over excitement.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
I don't think so. Actually, it actually enhances both sides
of the world, the inner world and the outer world.
And in that enhancement for both sides, there is an
opportunity to discover your superpower. And that's what I wrote about.
It's about our physical selves with our five senses, and
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our non physical self, which is the invisible part of
our consciousness, or what I call expanded consciousness.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
What is expanded consciousness?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Well, expanded consciousness, Well, first of all, to explain expanded
consciousness and explain the personal consciousness. Personal consciousness is our thoughts,
our current thoughts, our beliefs, and our feelings, and they're
through our five senses. Okay. An expanded consciousness is anything
beyond that, things that we haven't really normally considered before.
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But we're exploring programs like your program, the Mystic Lounge
is a portal for expanding our consciousness because we are
learning more and more about what's out there. Does that
answer your question.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Kind of sort of so personal? I get right expanded,
you know, if we have our consciousness whatever whatever makes
up that totality of our sense of self, and because
we have the subconscious, we have the conscious mind, we
have potentially a soul or some other energetic interface. We
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don't know what that might be, whether you believe it
or not, but it's a complex system and you have
the biology of it all. So how do we define
the actual expanse of what? Is there a barrier that
you can define and then we're somehow going past that barrier.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
My definition of an expanded consciousness is one that is
that is in tune with infinite intelligence. And that's a
big statement, right, Let me what's watered down a little bit.
One that is in tune with what I believe is
our natural selves, natural soul, or natural higher self, whatever
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term you look you would like to look listed with,
or it could also be one in tune with the
God within all of us. If God is a term
you use, you know, I would just use net for
now source because that's probably more neutral. And when you're
in tune with that frequency, since we're all vibrational beings,
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the free, that's the frequency of peace, of love, of joy,
of freedom, of celebration, and of abundance. That's my definition
of expanded consciousness, uh, in terms of what I want
to allow in my life. Now, other people might want
to allow other frequencies, and that's perfectly fine for them,
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But for myself, that's where I would I would like
to tune.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
In, you know, right, So what was that experience for
you when you started early on and you're transforming into
what you would define as an expanded consciousness state? What
was that feeling that process?
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Like, the feeling is like I'm receiving thoughts rather than
I'm generating the thought. The thoughts are being channeled through
a different frequency or energy, and it's translating into words,
and I trust it when I feel that it's in
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line with those qualities of peace, love, joy, freedom, and abundance.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Right, So we have our lowest of lows, right, you're
in that state and you're kind of stuck in the cycle.
How do you get out? What tools do you apply
when you're in that state? Because it's like a snowball effect.
So the longer you're in that state, the harder it
is to release. You know, I have a background in
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an addiction, so I understand that struggle really really well,
and it's really hard. I have a very difficult time
trying to express that where that happened, Where it was
finally like my brain changed, my mind changed, and I
could get away from those addictive behaviors and cycles.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah, you know, everybody's different. But the best technique that
I know of is just to get to the next
better feeling place, whatever however that's defined for you. If
the next better feeling place is you know, taking a
swim or going for a nature walk or drinking a
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cold drink, whatever it is, Yeah, that's just the next
place to sort of break out of the cycle, because
otherwise it will continue the momentum, negative momentum could continue.
And how does that sound. I'm not the therapist here,
but I am only speaking in terms of vibrational energy
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and how to break out of certain energies.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
And when you say, when you say energy is breaking
out from the energy, do you mean like an emotional state?
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yes, an emotional state because it's what you're feeling right
Like example, you can't go from angry to bliss, it's
too big of a jump. But from angry you could
grow to you could go to another level of feeling
and distract yourself from that. It could be just looking
at photographs that make you feel a little better.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah, go ahead, Oh thank you. I was just gonna say,
I think that's a really good advice to just do
one thing, like, you know, if you can get in
the habit of just doing the one thing, or just
imagine in the moment like, Okay, this is something I
can do right now, It'll make me feel a little
bit better, and just start there and don't think too
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hard about the next step.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Just yeah, that's right. And to me, what works best
for me is that not only getting to the next
better feeling place, but doing some breathing exercises because the breath,
the breath is the connection between ourselves, our physical selves,
and our expanded consciousness or the soul, whatever you call it.
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And through concentrating on the breath, you are starting a meditation.
There a form of stillness that makes your noisy mind
from whatever momentum is going on there.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Do you you're saying we have lazy minds, Well.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
We could have a lazy mind if we're allowing, you know,
the stimulation from the media and from things going on
around us to just follow or focus on because just remember,
each one of us has the power to focus on
things that we desire, not necessarily on things we are seeing.
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So if we desire to go in a certain direction,
I guess we could ask ourselves, well, what would take
me there? And what I'm focusing right now? Is it
going to take me there? And if not, well, perhaps
there's another step to get there. Might not be a
direct step because it's too big of a jump. But
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I'd like to focus right now to going to the
next better feeling place, whether it's just petting my cap
or dog, or you know, getting a popsicle somewhere.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Right yeah, or having a cookie when I quit right
when I when I quit smoking. You know, caffeine and
sugar is very helpful. You know it may not you know,
too much for too long is not the best idea,
but it can kind of help you get through those cravings.
It's like, I do see a parallel. There is there
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a Do you need a spiritual component to this?
Speaker 3 (18:12):
When you say spiritual component.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Can you think in more terms of like supernatural?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Supernatural meaning not part of the physical world, or at.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Least what material science would would say is the base reality.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
I think it depends on each person. If if one
is brought up let's say Christian or Catholic, perhaps yes,
the spirituality of having angels or Jesus Christ or any
of the saints could help them. Depends on your belief system.
If one is agnostic or atheist, maybe they could say, oh,
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the universe will help me, you know, the universe with
a capital you.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
It just you just ring another bell for me.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Really yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah. So in in recovery, especially early recovery, in the
programs that I've tried and used, there is the God component.
I don't believe in a God with a big G.
I generally believe there is something beyond we see materially.
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I don't keep my finger on I don't know what
it is. So I'm agnostic in that regard. But you know,
the sort of act of talking to it or you know,
if you want to use the word, praying to it,
even not believing in it exactly, kind of going through
the motions of the pretending to believe in it was
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actually really effective.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Okay, yeah, well they say that, you know, there are
different ways where our left brain is is admitting, you know,
the tellectual part of what we consider as holy so
to speak, until we really understand what consciousness is all about.
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And that's a big area of discussion even among quantum
physicists and scientists and spiritual people. And I'm not an
expert on consciousness, but i have a little hunch what it.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Could do for us, right, I think we're all little
at least maybe if there's a smaller word than expert.
We're all experiencers of consciousness, so we do know something
right from from our perspective, That's right.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
I love that, Yeah, And that's why, you know, everybody's
journey is different. In everybody's journey, it's somebody something that
we could learn from, exactly, because it's the way the
diversity of life and expansion and experiences is what we
can learn from in oneness.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, and I just want to add that the love
of my life, she said, Petting our cat is always
a good step, little steps to feel better. And it's true,
that's so true. Right, if you have a pet and
you're just even if you're feeling bad, having a bad day,
you're stress, you walk over, you know, you give them
a little love, you know, give them a pet, and
it's like you start to feel a little bit better.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Absolutely, because at that moment that you're petting your beloved
cat or dog, you are being present, totally present with
your pet, and in presence is a lot of power.
You forget the past and you forget the future, So
being present means you're there and no problems.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yeah. So, everyone who's listening, if you're just tuning in now,
you can go to Karina Marshall's website. It's unlimited self
dot us if you want to check out her work.
So tell us more about the book. I'm really curious
about Discovering Your Greatest Superpower and what bubblegum has anything
to do with this.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Yes, I wrote my book Discover and Use Your Greatest
Superpower during the period of time that we had an
extraordinary global event. We had this pandemic lockdown a couple
of years ago or three years ago. One day, in
the monotony of being at home and not being able
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to go out, a question popped in my mind, from
which I had to write the answer to journal, so
to speak, And if this lockdown is causing a lot
of turmoil and depression in people, what is it that
I have discovered for myself that I can share with others?
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And that might give others a new perspective on processing
what's going on around us. So I started sharing my
belief in the book that there are always two versions
of us coexisting, which is our physical version you and
I talking right now, and the non physical version that
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is something what we others call the soul or the
inner being or the higher self or the God within us. Okay,
and so the non physical version touches on the metaphysics
of life, it touches on the spirituality of life and
the bubble gum, even the bubblegum of life. A lot
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of people ask me, okay, what about the bubblegum of light.
I'm saying that, just like chewing bubble gum, I think
really serious is going on from a higher perspective. And
that's very hard for US intellectuals and Westerners to think
of because nothing serious going oncle come on, you know,
they bring up all sorts of issues, et cetera, et cetera.
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We won't even go to the election. But we think
that we think it's so serious because we have certain
beliefs that truly are no longer serving us or that's
very limiting and not expansive. So the book is about
discovering that unlimited self, that expanded version of the non
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physical version of each one of us, to transcend everything
and discover that superpower.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
There is no literal metaphysical gum. We can just chew and.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
You can you got it, imagine it.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Although the closest thing might come to that would be
maybe a psychedelic or something of that sort. I guess
have you entered altered states of any kind, whether through
meditation or otherwise.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I have through meditation, and also sometimes when I travel,
I have what one might call de ja vous, and
I feel like for some a few seconds, I would
be transported into something that looks very familiar. And also
through dreams, Yes, dreams are rich with experiences like that.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Are you a lucid dreamer.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
I haven't learned lucid dreaming because I know that in
lucid dreaming you can insert yourself in a dream and
be actively doing whatever you intended to do. But I
do believe in interpreting dreams too in a way that's
meaningful for me. For instance, I want to just share
with you three days ago, I woke up twice, one
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in the middle of the morning in one you know,
in my regular waking state, which is around seven point
thirty in the morning. And there was a name there
that was so clearly somebody I knew in high school,
way back in you know, many decades ago, and I
didn't realize why so, but knowing how I am about
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interpreting dreams, I researched that per and thanks to Google
and all the media, I found that she is in
New York and I contacted her and we had the
best discussion ever, as if she also believed in dreams,
and she said that this is the conversation that I've
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been looking for, and it was you know, it's just
part of the whole consciousness field that somehow we are
tapping into as we connect even.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
More consciousness field. Is there a super consciousness? Is there
there's something that permeates all things, all of us.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Then I'm not sure how to answer that question. All
I know is that the consciousness field is basically, you know,
like there's a famous quote by Paramahansegnanda that we are
all bubbles and drops in the ocean of consciousness and
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that while and this is my own interpretation, and while
we are thinking, feeling, uh and believing something, we are
contributing to that consciousness field. And uh, since energy cannot
be destroyed, you know famous Einstein saying, yeah squared, we
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are also we also have the capability to tap into anything,
into infinite intelligence through this consciousness field. So there's a
lot to explore, uh in the field of consciousness, which
contains the invisible vibrational energy that could help us in
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our intentions and desires, is my belief.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah, if we're to try to you know, stretch our
science scientific credibility. So gingis in in YouTube chat, So
give us the definition of synchronicity. Syncy is the idea
that events that occur together in time and seem related
but have no clear cause can have meeting. So if
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like you were saying, spookyac action at a distance, or
you know, quantum entanglement. We know that these quantum particles
can be light years away and when you move one,
the other moves exactly the same, right they're entangled. We
only see this on like the quantum quantum level. So
if there's some chance, some somewhere that somehow our brains
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have a low level of entanglement activity somehow in this
you know, biological computer, then maybe that ild explain synchronicities
because because then maybe there's some kind of connection and
without being conscious of it, there's messages being sent between
us and someone else or some other nature of reality,
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and you're kind of bringing that together. So if that
were the case, it wouldn't be magic per se. It
would still fall in the category of cause and effect.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
I think you're onto something there, alan because you know,
in a vibrational universe, like attracts like, so if you're
in a certain frequency, you have the capability and potential
to attract similar frequencies, and that could explain some of
the synchronicities that we experience in life and their fine.
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You know when you experience those synchronicities like oh my gosh,
how did you know? You know, it's like I was
just thinking about that today exactly.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Or the phone call when you're thinking about somebody in
the call. Yeah, when a skeptic says that is just coincidence,
are they right? Do you think that maybe they're right
and the synchronicity thing is just you know, completely wrong.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Well, it doesn't matter if I'm if it's right or wrong.
It happens.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Live in the moment. Whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
You can take it as like a chance coincidence, or
you could say you could feel eager and excited about it.
Oh my goodness, you know.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Do we read meaning into things? Or do you think
there are signs and prophecies? You're driving down the highway
and a crow, you know, lands in the road, you know,
beside you as you pass by. Is that a sign
or we just infusing our own belief into that?
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Well, I think it depends on the person. If they're
putting meaning into it, then that's the type of consciousness
they're bringing into the event or the experience. If they
think it's something else, then also they're entitled to that meaning,
and that's the type of consciousness you bring into that
particular event or experience.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Well, if you want something out of life, what do
you do you? Where do you go with your mind?
Speaker 3 (31:03):
I always believe in intentions, because when you have an
intention or desire for something, you are putting it out
there in the universe and summoning that energy to vibrate
or beam that type of light, if I could call
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it that way. I'm trying to use some bridge language
here so that you can vibrate that in return and
match up a manifestation. I don't know that was clearly.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
So you're sort of visualizing something, Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Yeah, that's a good way to look at it. I
think the power of visualization is really really powerful. In fact,
I had a friend the other day, we were having
lunch and she was sharing with me that she had
some personal problems with a relationship. And I said, well,
you know, you could visualize what you'd like to happen
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and see what happens. And she says, I, I don't
know how to visualize, but how do you do How
do you do that? And I said, well, do you
watch movies? Do you remember what happens in movies? That's
that's part of visualization. You know, you kind of remembered.
But in visualizing what you desire, you can make your
own movie in your mind, imagine what you'd like to happen.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
You do believe in ghosts.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Okay, have you seen a ghost?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
I have? You know? We you probably are not. This
is not foreign to our lives. The physical death is real,
but life continues beyond the physical death, so I'm sure
of that. That's why we have reincarnations and we have
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communications with like with my my mother, for instance, we
have channeling channeling experiences with streams of consciousness, and well
I'm sure of that as far as my experience and
belief it is. I just feel that the world because
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in the field of consciousness, no energy is never destroyed.
So if we tune in to a certain frequency, we
will be able to connect uh with that energy. And
more and more these days you can. You know, there's
I've never seen so much material out there about channeling
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different types of spiritual spiritual beings, including UFOs and ets,
which is not my area of expertise, but that probably
explains it.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
You know, have you ever had to deal with narcissists?
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Fortunately not, but some lucky you I know someone, Yeah, go.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Ahead, you got it. Well, you know, it's it's it's
it's somewhat easier, I think, to say to yourself, this
is what I want out of life, and this is
what I'm going to do to do it. But then
you've got people that come into your life and interject
themselves and act as barriers, and sometimes you're connected to them,
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whether it's job or family or whatever, and you can't
just remove them. You can't just extract them from your life.
You know, it's not. It's not like it's, uh, someone
you meet in a different department of a job. I mean,
you just don't have to go to that department again.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Right.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
If it's someone that you work with directly and you
find out that they're narcissist or psychopath or or just
you know, an angry person and who's coming at you
all the time, if you can't have them removed from
your life, how do you deal with it?
Speaker 3 (35:15):
I think that brings in the subject of compassion because
when when when I realized that I can tune into
my superpower and my unlimited self, my non physical version
or my expanded consciousness, then I can bring in the
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energy of compassion. And that saying that that person who
is probably bringing a lot of negative energy into the
experience is somebody that is also before we learned all
about this, was in the state that we were in before,
not understanding that you know, that person you know just
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feels disconnected. Uh. And and when when we I think,
in my case, when I practice compassion, I really feel
like I am vibrating, as if I'm looking at the
world as source, and that is the biggest gift I
feel I could.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Do the world as source yes, it's like.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
You know you are I am experiencing or trying to practice.
If I were Source or the universe or God or
my highest self, or if I were the Angel or
the Saint, or if I were Jesus, how would I
look at this particular situation? And when I say those
personalities are labels, I really am saying in the frequency
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of peace, love and joy, how would I look at
this situation or this person that they're being go ahead,
And that's when I can practice a form of compassion.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Can you be compassionate and still stand up for yourself?
Speak up for yourself?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
And absolutely yes, because it's it's possible that in whatever
that particular situation is, you would I would play a
role too in you know, standing up, standing up for
my authenticity.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
And and see what the blueprint of lives will will
result in.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Omar and Our in Instagram chat says compassion to a
narcissist is like giving them oxygen.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Well, that's the typical left brain analysis, and I can
understand that it's not. I think from from another perspective,
it's it's possibly also inviting that kind of energy to
dissipate by introducing your energy of love and compassion no
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matter what. It's hard for the ego to accept. I understand,
and it takes practice and I'm not there yet myself,
but I think it helps with allowing peace. You know,
we all want world peace, right, but it starts from within.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
So yeah, and look, I mean from the compassion point
of view, I get that because we are a continuum
and along that continuum, as a person, you don't know
what went wrong, whether it's biological, psychological. One experience that
triggered something when they were six years old and it
infected their mind for the rest of their life and
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it shaved them. So and often those people can experience,
you know, pain or whatever. But if they're still predatory,
if they're abusive, if they're like all these things, my
compassion says, I'm sorry that they're that way, and they
may be suffering in their own way because of it.
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But if if I need to cut them off or
cut them out of my life, and that's that's something
that is you have to be compassionate to yourself too,
because you can't just keep taking it and taking it
from someone.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Compassion doesn't mean that you're compromising your values. Compassion just
means giving that space that well, boy, this person is
is acting out in a way that is probably far
from who he or she really is, but that you know,
as you said, it's not giving up your values.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Definitely, What is your plan on the other side, since
you believe in the other side, what do you think
is there? What's going to happen? What do you hope for?
Speaker 3 (39:50):
I don't know. I think that on the other side,
we don't need to plan.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Okay, that's just curious, you know, considering that this is
something that people talk about a lot and consider probably
almost on a daily basis. So we want to continue,
but we have no idea what we're going to be
continuing in.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Well, that's a really big picture discussion because and and
this is what this is an answer that I've right
now I'm holding as an explanation. And I'm not saying
I'm firmly attaching to this explanation, but right now it
feels it feels logical and acceptable to me. And and
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that is on the other side, there's just peace, love
and joy. Uh. And that we can help also with
the evolution of consciousness on different planets, stars whatever you know,
dimension uh, And that there is no good or bad
and what what do you mean? There's no good, somebody says.
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But it's also just an opportunity to truly realize that
we are expanding our consciousness in ways that are infinitely possible,
which is one of the basic qualities of source. Infinite
and indefinite and always.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
There, like an energy source that will never run out.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
That's right. Yeah, that's my current explanation. But maybe you
know a few years from now it changes, but to
me it feels acceptable right now.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Yeah, I think I like that. Even if you, like
you said earlier, even if you're an atheist, you know,
just the visualization can actually be really powerful thinking about
this energy source that's there for you and then you
can pull from it. It is a technique that works.
It's kind of like back in my old younger days
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when we were doing improv classes for acting, there used to
be like a kind of a visual where you would
lie down on your back and close rise and then
you visualize a green light starting from your toes and
moving all the way up to your head. And this
is a relaxation technique and a centering of the mind technique.
That green light wasn't real, That energy wasn't really only
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in my mind? Was it? It was effective?
Speaker 3 (42:25):
It worked, yes, yes, yeah, I mean the visualization is
really powerful because if we realize that we are truly
vibrational beings, we have a vibrational manner each one of us.
Our thoughts are vibration, our feelings and emotions are vibration,
and our beliefs are you know, form of vibration, and thoughts, feelings,
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and beliefs form your vibrational manner and attracts similar frequencies
that form your reality. Reality. So when they say how
are you doing vibrationally, well, what's showing up in your world?
That's really the question.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
And it's kind of like law of attraction sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
Yeah, sure, yeah, you could label it love magnetism, love attraction,
or it's just a natural law that like energies attract
each other.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Okay, so if like energies attract each other, then how
do we repel.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Well, if you are vibrating in a certain frequency that is,
for example, not in tune with you know, the negative
energies of anger or blame or hate, then then you
are repelling those energies. And let's say you're experiencing something
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very that may made you angry quote unquote justifiably, so
then possibly try to distract your mind from what caused
it by going to the next better feeling place. And
that's the way you repel that momentum of energy from
getting the better of you.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
You know, how do you feel about physical exercise and
mental health?
Speaker 3 (44:24):
That's great, Yeah, it's important. It's important. We have what
we call an internal energy that she is, they call it,
and the physical exercise allows that she to be more
evenly distributed. And so it's really really important to move
and the way your body feels, trust how you feel,
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and people know what is the right level of exercise
is good?
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Yes, yeah, because some people, you know, they're they proselytize
and they're like, you gotta do this, you gotta do
this and five days a week, and then that's not
necessarily the right thing for everyone.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
Well, we're all programmed to think a certain way with consumerism,
you know, left and right saying that we should do this.
You didn't do enough of this. I mean, it's natural
to just be, you know, to be an actor in
the direction of those people, but each one of us
can be the director of our own lives. Acting in
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their theater. We're going to create our own theater.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Yes, exactly, Yeah, create your own stage, your own theater.
Controversial question, Is karma real and if so, do we
actually choose the people in our lives?
Speaker 3 (45:46):
My belief is that karma is real because it's also
part of the vibrational energy that we attract, like frequencies
attract each other. So that's basically what karma is. Okay,
and your other question about what was your other question again?
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Do we choose the people in our lives?
Speaker 3 (46:09):
I think we do. I have no proof of this.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
It makes me feel better that at least said you
had no proof of it, because because that's that's the thing.
I just you know, so many people believe it. I can't.
I have a hard time accepting that that we that
we choose the abusers the horrific experiences that can happen
to us, we also if that's true with them, and
that also means we choose the people that are good
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for us and all that.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
But my understanding, Allen, is that you know, there are
some let's just use the word souls. There are souls
who have decided, before entering the portal of the physical plane,
to ride big waves, Okay, big big waves, and that's
why they choose certain parents that will be giving them
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the worst EXPERI instance, as far as the human eyes
can see. I'm not sure about this, but you know,
it just gives me a little bit of an explanation
that maybe that's true because when I experience some really
negative thingness in my life, I had to trust that,
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oh that's my blueprint. Maybe I'm meant to experience that
because and when I look back right now, I learned
so much from it, and as a result, I could
talk about it and possibly help people share my experience
and say it's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Yeah, certainly there's a silver lining there can be. You
can learn something from an experience. I hardship, I certainly have.
I mean, that's just the fact of life. I just
don't like the idea of that we would that it's
like a conscious choice to do that specific that specific way.
I do kind of like your idea, because I've thought
about this too, is do we if we are choosing
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to come into these bodies, if there's that external soul,
maybe we kind of choose a general trajectory, right, general
like intention of whatever happens in this life. But then
everyone else has their own general intention of what's supposed
to happen in this life, and they just kind of
come together. And it's not necessarily because I chose that
(48:23):
specific person.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
Mm hmm, well, I'm not sure how to answer that.
It is a tough thing to really try to get
a logical explanation. But yeah, but the fact that I
guess a person is addressing it and has become probably
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very self aware as a result of the negative experience
is a portal for such flight into their you know,
understanding of how life works and how they can potentially
even help others.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
Yeah, where friends come into this equation and you know,
loved ones and all that. How important are they to
one's happiness?
Speaker 3 (49:13):
I think they enhance one's well being in the physical world.
But happiness truly comes from within, as we both know it.
But what does that really mean? We hear that all
the time our happiness comes from within, you know, et cetera,
et cetera. But it's really about, in my book, learning
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how to be still and in that silence, usually through meditation,
being grounded and connecting with my inner being or my
expanded consciousness about who I really am and looking at me,
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engaging my withness consciousness and looking at me now in
the physical world and saying, how are you doing? You
seem to be doing okay, but you don't know it.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
Yeah, yeah, checking in how what is the if you
can talk about it, What is like the worst negative
slash challenge experience that you have come across in your
life that you really had to work, you know, to
learn from an overcome er? What have you?
Speaker 3 (50:30):
Yes? And that the most I felt it was traumatic.
I was married, My first marriage was for twenty three
years and yeah, and I thought, oh, we're going to
grow older, We're just gonna travel here and there. My
daughter is old already and she can do you know,
she can depend on herself and etc. Et cetera. But
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it didn't turn out that way. After twenty three years
of marriage, it broke down. And at that time I
was full of shame and I didn't want embarrassment, and
I didn't want my friends to know, and certainly I
didn't want my daughter to think of it negatively as
I was feeling. And even though we've remained in good terms,
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it was still very painful for me because it was
such a big change. You know, you become comfortable about
the way you're living your life. But as a result
of that, I learned to know more about who am I.
You know, what am I really here for? And about
five or six years after we separated, I am now
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married to my second husband, and I said to myself,
I only want to be with a spiritual person from
here on. And my current husband was a yoga monk
for thirty five years. And my daughter said, Mom, how
much more spiritual do you want? It's like, how did
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I attract that?
Speaker 2 (52:06):
Well, that's what we're talking about earlier, right you kind
of you were like, this is what I need and
it happened.
Speaker 3 (52:11):
Yes, And we are both in a relationship that really
understands that happiness comes from within. And we are in
the process of trying to come up with maybe a
book or some kind of coaching practice where we could
help other people deal with their relationships and themselves.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
So happiness is said comes with from within. You mean you, yourself,
separately from the other person, has to find your own
way to happiness.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
Yes, because you can't really be the person that's likable
and lovable unless you take care of yourself first. That's
really important in my.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
Do you use any tools such as crystals, sage lighting, candles,
do you have like do you use taliman talismans and
any kind of ritualistic tools.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
My My regular ritual is meditation. I do have crystals,
but they're more for like I feel like they are
uh they carry the frequencies that will allow more light
in the house for instruments or negate certain electromagnetic frequencies. Uh.
So I believe in that, And I do believe in
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sage clearing, and because that's all energy, and and I
think if there are tools that can help improve the
energy of a place or a person, I think it's
it's worth using.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
Yeah, there are a lot of people that think that
crystals do kind of emanate their own energy or can
amplify the energy that you're feeling.
Speaker 3 (54:06):
I agree. I believed in that too, and it's a
whole I'm not an expert in crystals, but there are
a number of experts out there who can, who have
a lot of stories and understandings about how crystals can
really help an environment or a person.
Speaker 2 (54:28):
Yeah, And in addition to that, I think I think
they go hand in hand. I've personally started on occasion
listening to like four hundred and thirty two hurts music. Okay, yeah,
I know, and I started dabbling in the binaurmal music
as well. It's very helpful. It's at relaxation, very very helpful.
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It can really calm the mind pretty quickly.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
Yes, I also have a tool called new Calm, and
it helps with relaxing the mind. Or when in the
afternoon and you feel sleepy, just go to sleep with
that one and it kind of brings up the alpha
waves and helps with It's almost like a meditation while sleeping.
Speaker 2 (55:12):
So yeah, all right, Karina, thank you so much for
joining tonight. I could keep chatting with you. I wish
we had more time.
Speaker 3 (55:19):
Oh it's fun. Thank you so much too.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
Absolutely so. If you can leave us with one final thought,
what would it be.
Speaker 3 (55:28):
That I want to thank you for listening to Alan
and myself for exploring your magnificence, because in stations like
this we are really just reminding each other of how
magnificent we are and how much power we each have
and more to explore.
Speaker 2 (55:48):
All right, perfect, Karina, Thank you so much. Everyone, Thank
you for joining us. If you want to find out
more about Karina Marshall, please go to Unlimited self dot
us and to everyone in chat. I love you, guys.
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Thank you so much for joining us. Tonight. We have
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that's because it really is kind of connected to what
we discuss here metaphysics, spirituality and even the paranormal and supernatural,
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but just practical, every day useful information. And that's what
we're going to be talking about tonight with Karina Marshall. Karina,
welcome to Mystic Lounge.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
How are you, hi, Alan, It's great to be at
Mystic Lounge.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
The lounge is open to everyone, so we will get
to what you mean by a bubble gum. I find
this really intriguing. What I do sense from it is
that there's this sort of implicit sense of joy in
the work that you do. And that's something that I
that I really appreciate because we discuss the dark Knight
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of the soul and other challenging aspects of our psyches
and being humans. So how do we go from that
place and find our place in a place of joy?
So if you can tell us your story and how
you evolved, what got you to be the person that
promotes these tools for living.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Well, yes, well, I think that each person through. First
of all, I'm in my sixth decade of life, so
so in each decade, if I look back, I have
grown mentally, physically, and emotionally. And at each decade, I
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would ask myself who am I? And what is my purpose?
And what is all of this that I'm seeing around me,
whether it's business, my role at work, or my relationships,
my family, my daughter. And asking these questions, at least
for me, has led me to increasing clarity that the
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overall purpose of our lives is really self realization. And
that purpose of self realization, I came across a lot
of studies related to metaphysics, paranormal spirituality, and I realized
that everything is interconnected. And I know your readers and
(04:31):
you yourself, You're not You're not strangers to all these concepts.
And coming to California eleven twelve years ago just also
enhanced my my vibrational energy. If you if.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I can introduce that in California, did yes? Okay?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
And that really helped. And I had been always as
a kid, I've always had some psychic influences and psychic
experiences growing up in the Philippines. My mother, I believe
looking back, as really a psychic person as well. And
through the years, I've just had some very strong intuitive
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experiences that led me to pursue more interest in looking
at what is this all about? And here I am
right now.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
We're always, I think, thinking about what is this all about?
It's an ever present question that permeates all of these conversations.
You promote meditation, and I think that there is a
lot to that. Here's my question about MOI metivation meditation.
Why is it that everyone who meditates regularly, people like yourself,
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promote it, encourage it, speak to the benefits of it,
and yet so many people won't do it or won't
come I won't even just try it in the first place.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
That's a great question, Alan, well I started. Let me
share with you that my introduction to meditation was through contemplation.
I lived in Dubai, the Middle East in the eighties,
and because it was sort of you know, being a
woman in an Arab country, my exposure and social life
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was very limited. I learned to contemplate and it was
really wonderful to hear the Muslims they do their prayers
throughout the day, so that even kind of introduced me
to self reflection. And when I went back to my home,
I learned about meditation because I realized that there was
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so much noise in our minds, and I stumbled upon
the books of paramahanse Yogananda, which is part of the
Self Realization Fellowship group, and I learned some very basic
and important meditation techniques that has helped me through the
years silence my mind from all the chatter and all
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the distractions. You're right, because, especially with the multimedia availability
that we have in the digital world today, it's so
easy to be distracted and to act things in our
lives based on what we're seeing in media. However, if
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we really want to be to have a purposeful and
intentional life as far as where we want to go,
it's really important to sort of get that, have that
silence in the mind, get away from the distraction, even
half an hour a day, and uh and just go within.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
And would you would you with a half an hour?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I would stay with five to ten minutes. Okay, half
an hour is pretty long for a starter, and it
could be just three minutes, but you build up on it,
you know, as you go along and they'll come at time,
and I promise you this, They'll come a time when
you'll really look forward to it and you really love it.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, it's true. When I actually do it, I love it.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I do.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
And you know, it's not one of those things, honest
to goodness. It's one of those things where it's like
working out and going to the gym, and it's a
long term investment. You benefit from it immediately. Oh yeah,
not only are your calmer kind of like blood pressure
is lower, like right afterwards, but the next day I
can feel the difference even if I just meditated for
like fifteen twenty minutes.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Yeah, And you know, we're not born all of us
are not born to be like meditators or monks or monastics.
We are here also to celebrate life, you know, to
really engage. But having those tools, the tool of meditation
and breathing exercise helps us to balance that a little
bit more.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah. You know, we I love elation when those those highs,
those joys. We I love flamboyant people, bombastic people.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I love.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I had a history teacher and classy you would whisper
really close like this and get down, and I just
love that range of human experience. Oh yes, when we're
if we get super super mindful, centered, meditated, you know,
do we give up that kind of the spikes of
elation and joy and over excitement.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
I don't think so. Actually, it actually enhances both sides
of the world, the inner world and the outer world.
And in that enhancement for both sides, there is an
opportunity to discover your superpower. And that's what I wrote about.
It's about our physical selves with our five senses, and
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our non physical self, which is the invisible part of
our consciousness, or what I call expanded consciousness.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
What is expanded consciousness?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Well, expanded consciousness, Well, first of all, to explain expanded
consciousness and explain the personal consciousness. Personal consciousness is our thoughts,
our current thoughts, our beliefs, and our feelings, and they're
through our five senses. Okay. An expanded consciousness is anything
beyond that, things that we haven't really normally considered before.
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But we're exploring programs like your program, the Mystic Lounge
is a portal for expanding our consciousness because we are
learning more and more about what's out there. Does that
answer your question.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Kind of sort of so personal? I get right expanded,
you know, if we have our consciousness whatever whatever makes
up that totality of our sense of self, and because
we have the subconscious, we have the conscious mind, we
have potentially a soul or some other energetic interface. We
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don't know what that might be, whether you believe it
or not, but it's a complex system and you have
the biology of it all. So how do we define
the actual expanse of what? Is there a barrier that
you can define and then we're somehow going past that barrier.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
My definition of an expanded consciousness is one that is
that is in tune with infinite intelligence. And that's a
big statement, right, Let me what's watered down a little bit.
One that is in tune with what I believe is
our natural selves, natural soul, or natural higher self, whatever
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term you look you would like to look listed with,
or it could also be one in tune with the
God within all of us. If God is a term
you use, you know, I would just use net for
now source because that's probably more neutral. And when you're
in tune with that frequency, since we're all vibrational beings,
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the free, that's the frequency of peace, of love, of joy,
of freedom, of celebration, and of abundance. That's my definition
of expanded consciousness, uh, in terms of what I want
to allow in my life. Now, other people might want
to allow other frequencies, and that's perfectly fine for them,
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But for myself, that's where I would I would like
to tune.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
In, you know, right, So what was that experience for
you when you started early on and you're transforming into
what you would define as an expanded consciousness state? What
was that feeling that process?
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Like, the feeling is like I'm receiving thoughts rather than
I'm generating the thought. The thoughts are being channeled through
a different frequency or energy, and it's translating into words,
and I trust it when I feel that it's in
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line with those qualities of peace, love, joy, freedom, and abundance.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Right, So we have our lowest of lows, right, you're
in that state and you're kind of stuck in the cycle.
How do you get out? What tools do you apply
when you're in that state? Because it's like a snowball effect.
So the longer you're in that state, the harder it
is to release. You know, I have a background in
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an addiction, so I understand that struggle really really well,
and it's really hard. I have a very difficult time
trying to express that where that happened, Where it was
finally like my brain changed, my mind changed, and I
could get away from those addictive behaviors and cycles.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah, you know, everybody's different. But the best technique that
I know of is just to get to the next
better feeling place, whatever however that's defined for you. If
the next better feeling place is you know, taking a
swim or going for a nature walk or drinking a
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cold drink, whatever it is, Yeah, that's just the next
place to sort of break out of the cycle, because
otherwise it will continue the momentum, negative momentum could continue.
And how does that sound. I'm not the therapist here,
but I am only speaking in terms of vibrational energy
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and how to break out of certain energies.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
And when you say, when you say energy is breaking
out from the energy, do you mean like an emotional state?
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yes, an emotional state because it's what you're feeling right
Like example, you can't go from angry to bliss, it's
too big of a jump. But from angry you could
grow to you could go to another level of feeling
and distract yourself from that. It could be just looking
at photographs that make you feel a little better.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah, go ahead, Oh thank you. I was just gonna say,
I think that's a really good advice to just do
one thing, like, you know, if you can get in
the habit of just doing the one thing, or just
imagine in the moment like, Okay, this is something I
can do right now, It'll make me feel a little
bit better, and just start there and don't think too
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hard about the next step.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Just yeah, that's right. And to me, what works best
for me is that not only getting to the next
better feeling place, but doing some breathing exercises because the breath,
the breath is the connection between ourselves, our physical selves,
and our expanded consciousness or the soul, whatever you call it.
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And through concentrating on the breath, you are starting a meditation.
There a form of stillness that makes your noisy mind
from whatever momentum is going on there.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Do you you're saying we have lazy minds, Well.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
We could have a lazy mind if we're allowing, you know,
the stimulation from the media and from things going on
around us to just follow or focus on because just remember,
each one of us has the power to focus on
things that we desire, not necessarily on things we are seeing.
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So if we desire to go in a certain direction,
I guess we could ask ourselves, well, what would take
me there? And what I'm focusing right now? Is it
going to take me there? And if not, well, perhaps
there's another step to get there. Might not be a
direct step because it's too big of a jump. But
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I'd like to focus right now to going to the
next better feeling place, whether it's just petting my cap
or dog, or you know, getting a popsicle somewhere.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Right yeah, or having a cookie when I quit right
when I when I quit smoking. You know, caffeine and
sugar is very helpful. You know it may not you know,
too much for too long is not the best idea,
but it can kind of help you get through those cravings.
It's like, I do see a parallel. There is there
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a Do you need a spiritual component to this?
Speaker 3 (18:12):
When you say spiritual component.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Can you think in more terms of like supernatural?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Supernatural meaning not part of the physical world, or at.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Least what material science would would say is the base reality.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
I think it depends on each person. If if one
is brought up let's say Christian or Catholic, perhaps yes,
the spirituality of having angels or Jesus Christ or any
of the saints could help them. Depends on your belief system.
If one is agnostic or atheist, maybe they could say, oh,
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the universe will help me, you know, the universe with
a capital you.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
It just you just ring another bell for me.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Really yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah. So in in recovery, especially early recovery, in the
programs that I've tried and used, there is the God component.
I don't believe in a God with a big G.
I generally believe there is something beyond we see materially.
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I don't keep my finger on I don't know what
it is. So I'm agnostic in that regard. But you know,
the sort of act of talking to it or you know,
if you want to use the word, praying to it,
even not believing in it exactly, kind of going through
the motions of the pretending to believe in it was
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actually really effective.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Okay, yeah, well they say that, you know, there are
different ways where our left brain is is admitting, you know,
the tellectual part of what we consider as holy so
to speak, until we really understand what consciousness is all about.
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And that's a big area of discussion even among quantum
physicists and scientists and spiritual people. And I'm not an
expert on consciousness, but i have a little hunch what it.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Could do for us, right, I think we're all little
at least maybe if there's a smaller word than expert.
We're all experiencers of consciousness, so we do know something
right from from our perspective, That's right.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
I love that, Yeah, And that's why, you know, everybody's
journey is different. In everybody's journey, it's somebody something that
we could learn from, exactly, because it's the way the
diversity of life and expansion and experiences is what we
can learn from in oneness.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, and I just want to add that the love
of my life, she said, Petting our cat is always
a good step, little steps to feel better. And it's true,
that's so true. Right, if you have a pet and
you're just even if you're feeling bad, having a bad day,
you're stress, you walk over, you know, you give them
a little love, you know, give them a pet, and
it's like you start to feel a little bit better.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Absolutely, because at that moment that you're petting your beloved
cat or dog, you are being present, totally present with
your pet, and in presence is a lot of power.
You forget the past and you forget the future, So
being present means you're there and no problems.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yeah. So, everyone who's listening, if you're just tuning in now,
you can go to Karina Marshall's website. It's unlimited self
dot us if you want to check out her work.
So tell us more about the book. I'm really curious
about Discovering Your Greatest Superpower and what bubblegum has anything
to do with this.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Yes, I wrote my book Discover and Use Your Greatest
Superpower during the period of time that we had an
extraordinary global event. We had this pandemic lockdown a couple
of years ago or three years ago. One day, in
the monotony of being at home and not being able
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to go out, a question popped in my mind, from
which I had to write the answer to journal, so
to speak, And if this lockdown is causing a lot
of turmoil and depression in people, what is it that
I have discovered for myself that I can share with others?
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And that might give others a new perspective on processing
what's going on around us. So I started sharing my
belief in the book that there are always two versions
of us coexisting, which is our physical version you and
I talking right now, and the non physical version that
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is something what we others call the soul or the
inner being or the higher self or the God within us. Okay,
and so the non physical version touches on the metaphysics
of life, it touches on the spirituality of life and
the bubble gum, even the bubblegum of life. A lot
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of people ask me, okay, what about the bubblegum of light.
I'm saying that, just like chewing bubble gum, I think
really serious is going on from a higher perspective. And
that's very hard for US intellectuals and Westerners to think
of because nothing serious going oncle come on, you know,
they bring up all sorts of issues, et cetera, et cetera.
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We won't even go to the election. But we think
that we think it's so serious because we have certain
beliefs that truly are no longer serving us or that's
very limiting and not expansive. So the book is about
discovering that unlimited self, that expanded version of the non
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physical version of each one of us, to transcend everything
and discover that superpower.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
There is no literal metaphysical gum. We can just chew and.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
You can you got it, imagine it.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Although the closest thing might come to that would be
maybe a psychedelic or something of that sort. I guess
have you entered altered states of any kind, whether through
meditation or otherwise.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I have through meditation, and also sometimes when I travel,
I have what one might call de ja vous, and
I feel like for some a few seconds, I would
be transported into something that looks very familiar. And also
through dreams, Yes, dreams are rich with experiences like that.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Are you a lucid dreamer.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
I haven't learned lucid dreaming because I know that in
lucid dreaming you can insert yourself in a dream and
be actively doing whatever you intended to do. But I
do believe in interpreting dreams too in a way that's
meaningful for me. For instance, I want to just share
with you three days ago, I woke up twice, one
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in the middle of the morning in one you know,
in my regular waking state, which is around seven point
thirty in the morning. And there was a name there
that was so clearly somebody I knew in high school,
way back in you know, many decades ago, and I
didn't realize why so, but knowing how I am about
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interpreting dreams, I researched that per and thanks to Google
and all the media, I found that she is in
New York and I contacted her and we had the
best discussion ever, as if she also believed in dreams,
and she said that this is the conversation that I've
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been looking for, and it was you know, it's just
part of the whole consciousness field that somehow we are
tapping into as we connect even.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
More consciousness field. Is there a super consciousness? Is there
there's something that permeates all things, all of us.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Then I'm not sure how to answer that question. All
I know is that the consciousness field is basically, you know,
like there's a famous quote by Paramahansegnanda that we are
all bubbles and drops in the ocean of consciousness and
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that while and this is my own interpretation, and while
we are thinking, feeling, uh and believing something, we are
contributing to that consciousness field. And uh, since energy cannot
be destroyed, you know famous Einstein saying, yeah squared, we
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are also we also have the capability to tap into anything,
into infinite intelligence through this consciousness field. So there's a
lot to explore, uh in the field of consciousness, which
contains the invisible vibrational energy that could help us in
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our intentions and desires, is my belief.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah, if we're to try to you know, stretch our
science scientific credibility. So gingis in in YouTube chat, So
give us the definition of synchronicity. Syncy is the idea
that events that occur together in time and seem related
but have no clear cause can have meeting. So if
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like you were saying, spookyac action at a distance, or
you know, quantum entanglement. We know that these quantum particles
can be light years away and when you move one,
the other moves exactly the same, right they're entangled. We
only see this on like the quantum quantum level. So
if there's some chance, some somewhere that somehow our brains
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have a low level of entanglement activity somehow in this
you know, biological computer, then maybe that ild explain synchronicities
because because then maybe there's some kind of connection and
without being conscious of it, there's messages being sent between
us and someone else or some other nature of reality,
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and you're kind of bringing that together. So if that
were the case, it wouldn't be magic per se. It
would still fall in the category of cause and effect.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
I think you're onto something there, alan because you know,
in a vibrational universe, like attracts like, so if you're
in a certain frequency, you have the capability and potential
to attract similar frequencies, and that could explain some of
the synchronicities that we experience in life and their fine.
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You know when you experience those synchronicities like oh my gosh,
how did you know? You know, it's like I was
just thinking about that today exactly.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Or the phone call when you're thinking about somebody in
the call. Yeah, when a skeptic says that is just coincidence,
are they right? Do you think that maybe they're right
and the synchronicity thing is just you know, completely wrong.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Well, it doesn't matter if I'm if it's right or wrong.
It happens.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Live in the moment. Whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
You can take it as like a chance coincidence, or
you could say you could feel eager and excited about it.
Oh my goodness, you know.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Do we read meaning into things? Or do you think
there are signs and prophecies? You're driving down the highway
and a crow, you know, lands in the road, you know,
beside you as you pass by. Is that a sign
or we just infusing our own belief into that?
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Well, I think it depends on the person. If they're
putting meaning into it, then that's the type of consciousness
they're bringing into the event or the experience. If they
think it's something else, then also they're entitled to that meaning,
and that's the type of consciousness you bring into that
particular event or experience.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Well, if you want something out of life, what do
you do you? Where do you go with your mind?
Speaker 3 (31:03):
I always believe in intentions, because when you have an
intention or desire for something, you are putting it out
there in the universe and summoning that energy to vibrate
or beam that type of light, if I could call
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it that way. I'm trying to use some bridge language
here so that you can vibrate that in return and
match up a manifestation. I don't know that was clearly.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
So you're sort of visualizing something, Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Yeah, that's a good way to look at it. I
think the power of visualization is really really powerful. In fact,
I had a friend the other day, we were having
lunch and she was sharing with me that she had
some personal problems with a relationship. And I said, well,
you know, you could visualize what you'd like to happen
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and see what happens. And she says, I, I don't
know how to visualize, but how do you do How
do you do that? And I said, well, do you
watch movies? Do you remember what happens in movies? That's
that's part of visualization. You know, you kind of remembered.
But in visualizing what you desire, you can make your
own movie in your mind, imagine what you'd like to happen.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
You do believe in ghosts.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Okay, have you seen a ghost?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
I have? You know? We you probably are not. This
is not foreign to our lives. The physical death is real,
but life continues beyond the physical death, so I'm sure
of that. That's why we have reincarnations and we have
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communications with like with my my mother, for instance, we
have channeling channeling experiences with streams of consciousness, and well
I'm sure of that as far as my experience and
belief it is. I just feel that the world because
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in the field of consciousness, no energy is never destroyed.
So if we tune in to a certain frequency, we
will be able to connect uh with that energy. And
more and more these days you can. You know, there's
I've never seen so much material out there about channeling
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different types of spiritual spiritual beings, including UFOs and ets,
which is not my area of expertise, but that probably
explains it.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
You know, have you ever had to deal with narcissists?
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Fortunately not, but some lucky you I know someone, Yeah, go.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Ahead, you got it. Well, you know, it's it's it's
it's somewhat easier, I think, to say to yourself, this
is what I want out of life, and this is
what I'm going to do to do it. But then
you've got people that come into your life and interject
themselves and act as barriers, and sometimes you're connected to them,
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whether it's job or family or whatever, and you can't
just remove them. You can't just extract them from your life.
You know, it's not. It's not like it's, uh, someone
you meet in a different department of a job. I mean,
you just don't have to go to that department again.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Right.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
If it's someone that you work with directly and you
find out that they're narcissist or psychopath or or just
you know, an angry person and who's coming at you
all the time, if you can't have them removed from
your life, how do you deal with it?
Speaker 3 (35:15):
I think that brings in the subject of compassion because
when when when I realized that I can tune into
my superpower and my unlimited self, my non physical version
or my expanded consciousness, then I can bring in the
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energy of compassion. And that saying that that person who
is probably bringing a lot of negative energy into the
experience is somebody that is also before we learned all
about this, was in the state that we were in before,
not understanding that you know, that person you know just
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feels disconnected. Uh. And and when when we I think,
in my case, when I practice compassion, I really feel
like I am vibrating, as if I'm looking at the
world as source, and that is the biggest gift I
feel I could.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Do the world as source yes, it's like.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
You know you are I am experiencing or trying to practice.
If I were Source or the universe or God or
my highest self, or if I were the Angel or
the Saint, or if I were Jesus, how would I
look at this particular situation? And when I say those
personalities are labels, I really am saying in the frequency
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of peace, love and joy, how would I look at
this situation or this person that they're being go ahead,
And that's when I can practice a form of compassion.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Can you be compassionate and still stand up for yourself?
Speak up for yourself?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
And absolutely yes, because it's it's possible that in whatever
that particular situation is, you would I would play a
role too in you know, standing up, standing up for
my authenticity.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
And and see what the blueprint of lives will will
result in.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Omar and Our in Instagram chat says compassion to a
narcissist is like giving them oxygen.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Well, that's the typical left brain analysis, and I can
understand that it's not. I think from from another perspective,
it's it's possibly also inviting that kind of energy to
dissipate by introducing your energy of love and compassion no
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matter what. It's hard for the ego to accept. I understand,
and it takes practice and I'm not there yet myself,
but I think it helps with allowing peace. You know,
we all want world peace, right, but it starts from within.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
So yeah, and look, I mean from the compassion point
of view, I get that because we are a continuum
and along that continuum, as a person, you don't know
what went wrong, whether it's biological, psychological. One experience that
triggered something when they were six years old and it
infected their mind for the rest of their life and
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it shaved them. So and often those people can experience,
you know, pain or whatever. But if they're still predatory,
if they're abusive, if they're like all these things, my
compassion says, I'm sorry that they're that way, and they
may be suffering in their own way because of it.
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But if if I need to cut them off or
cut them out of my life, and that's that's something
that is you have to be compassionate to yourself too,
because you can't just keep taking it and taking it
from someone.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Compassion doesn't mean that you're compromising your values. Compassion just
means giving that space that well, boy, this person is
is acting out in a way that is probably far
from who he or she really is, but that you know,
as you said, it's not giving up your values.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Definitely, What is your plan on the other side, since
you believe in the other side, what do you think
is there? What's going to happen? What do you hope for?
Speaker 3 (39:50):
I don't know. I think that on the other side,
we don't need to plan.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Okay, that's just curious, you know, considering that this is
something that people talk about a lot and consider probably
almost on a daily basis. So we want to continue,
but we have no idea what we're going to be
continuing in.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Well, that's a really big picture discussion because and and
this is what this is an answer that I've right
now I'm holding as an explanation. And I'm not saying
I'm firmly attaching to this explanation, but right now it
feels it feels logical and acceptable to me. And and
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that is on the other side, there's just peace, love
and joy. Uh. And that we can help also with
the evolution of consciousness on different planets, stars whatever you know,
dimension uh, And that there is no good or bad
and what what do you mean? There's no good, somebody says.
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But it's also just an opportunity to truly realize that
we are expanding our consciousness in ways that are infinitely possible,
which is one of the basic qualities of source. Infinite
and indefinite and always.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
There, like an energy source that will never run out.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
That's right. Yeah, that's my current explanation. But maybe you
know a few years from now it changes, but to
me it feels acceptable right now.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Yeah, I think I like that. Even if you, like
you said earlier, even if you're an atheist, you know,
just the visualization can actually be really powerful thinking about
this energy source that's there for you and then you
can pull from it. It is a technique that works.
It's kind of like back in my old younger days
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when we were doing improv classes for acting, there used to
be like a kind of a visual where you would
lie down on your back and close rise and then
you visualize a green light starting from your toes and
moving all the way up to your head. And this
is a relaxation technique and a centering of the mind technique.
That green light wasn't real, That energy wasn't really only
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in my mind? Was it? It was effective?
Speaker 3 (42:25):
It worked, yes, yes, yeah, I mean the visualization is
really powerful because if we realize that we are truly
vibrational beings, we have a vibrational manner each one of us.
Our thoughts are vibration, our feelings and emotions are vibration,
and our beliefs are you know, form of vibration, and thoughts, feelings,
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and beliefs form your vibrational manner and attracts similar frequencies
that form your reality. Reality. So when they say how
are you doing vibrationally, well, what's showing up in your world?
That's really the question.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
And it's kind of like law of attraction sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
Yeah, sure, yeah, you could label it love magnetism, love attraction,
or it's just a natural law that like energies attract
each other.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Okay, so if like energies attract each other, then how
do we repel.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Well, if you are vibrating in a certain frequency that is,
for example, not in tune with you know, the negative
energies of anger or blame or hate, then then you
are repelling those energies. And let's say you're experiencing something
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very that may made you angry quote unquote justifiably, so
then possibly try to distract your mind from what caused
it by going to the next better feeling place. And
that's the way you repel that momentum of energy from
getting the better of you.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
You know, how do you feel about physical exercise and
mental health?
Speaker 3 (44:24):
That's great, Yeah, it's important. It's important. We have what
we call an internal energy that she is, they call it,
and the physical exercise allows that she to be more
evenly distributed. And so it's really really important to move
and the way your body feels, trust how you feel,
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and people know what is the right level of exercise
is good?
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Yes, yeah, because some people, you know, they're they proselytize
and they're like, you gotta do this, you gotta do
this and five days a week, and then that's not
necessarily the right thing for everyone.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
Well, we're all programmed to think a certain way with consumerism,
you know, left and right saying that we should do this.
You didn't do enough of this. I mean, it's natural
to just be, you know, to be an actor in
the direction of those people, but each one of us
can be the director of our own lives. Acting in
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their theater. We're going to create our own theater.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Yes, exactly, Yeah, create your own stage, your own theater.
Controversial question, Is karma real and if so, do we
actually choose the people in our lives?
Speaker 3 (45:46):
My belief is that karma is real because it's also
part of the vibrational energy that we attract, like frequencies
attract each other. So that's basically what karma is. Okay,
and your other question about what was your other question again?
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Do we choose the people in our lives?
Speaker 3 (46:09):
I think we do. I have no proof of this.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
It makes me feel better that at least said you
had no proof of it, because because that's that's the thing.
I just you know, so many people believe it. I can't.
I have a hard time accepting that that we that
we choose the abusers the horrific experiences that can happen
to us, we also if that's true with them, and
that also means we choose the people that are good
(46:34):
for us and all that.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
But my understanding, Allen, is that you know, there are
some let's just use the word souls. There are souls
who have decided, before entering the portal of the physical plane,
to ride big waves, Okay, big big waves, and that's
why they choose certain parents that will be giving them
(46:58):
the worst EXPERI instance, as far as the human eyes
can see. I'm not sure about this, but you know,
it just gives me a little bit of an explanation
that maybe that's true because when I experience some really
negative thingness in my life, I had to trust that,
(47:19):
oh that's my blueprint. Maybe I'm meant to experience that
because and when I look back right now, I learned
so much from it, and as a result, I could
talk about it and possibly help people share my experience
and say it's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Yeah, certainly there's a silver lining there can be. You
can learn something from an experience. I hardship, I certainly have.
I mean, that's just the fact of life. I just
don't like the idea of that we would that it's
like a conscious choice to do that specific that specific way.
I do kind of like your idea, because I've thought
about this too, is do we if we are choosing
(48:01):
to come into these bodies, if there's that external soul,
maybe we kind of choose a general trajectory, right, general
like intention of whatever happens in this life. But then
everyone else has their own general intention of what's supposed
to happen in this life, and they just kind of
come together. And it's not necessarily because I chose that
(48:23):
specific person.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
Mm hmm, well, I'm not sure how to answer that.
It is a tough thing to really try to get
a logical explanation. But yeah, but the fact that I
guess a person is addressing it and has become probably
(48:48):
very self aware as a result of the negative experience
is a portal for such flight into their you know,
understanding of how life works and how they can potentially
even help others.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
Yeah, where friends come into this equation and you know,
loved ones and all that. How important are they to
one's happiness?
Speaker 3 (49:13):
I think they enhance one's well being in the physical world.
But happiness truly comes from within, as we both know it.
But what does that really mean? We hear that all
the time our happiness comes from within, you know, et cetera,
et cetera. But it's really about, in my book, learning
(49:38):
how to be still and in that silence, usually through meditation,
being grounded and connecting with my inner being or my
expanded consciousness about who I really am and looking at me,
(49:59):
engaging my withness consciousness and looking at me now in
the physical world and saying, how are you doing? You
seem to be doing okay, but you don't know it.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
Yeah, yeah, checking in how what is the if you
can talk about it, What is like the worst negative
slash challenge experience that you have come across in your
life that you really had to work, you know, to
learn from an overcome er? What have you?
Speaker 3 (50:30):
Yes? And that the most I felt it was traumatic.
I was married, My first marriage was for twenty three
years and yeah, and I thought, oh, we're going to
grow older, We're just gonna travel here and there. My
daughter is old already and she can do you know,
she can depend on herself and etc. Et cetera. But
(50:55):
it didn't turn out that way. After twenty three years
of marriage, it broke down. And at that time I
was full of shame and I didn't want embarrassment, and
I didn't want my friends to know, and certainly I
didn't want my daughter to think of it negatively as
I was feeling. And even though we've remained in good terms,
(51:21):
it was still very painful for me because it was
such a big change. You know, you become comfortable about
the way you're living your life. But as a result
of that, I learned to know more about who am I.
You know, what am I really here for? And about
five or six years after we separated, I am now
(51:43):
married to my second husband, and I said to myself,
I only want to be with a spiritual person from
here on. And my current husband was a yoga monk
for thirty five years. And my daughter said, Mom, how
much more spiritual do you want? It's like, how did
(52:05):
I attract that?
Speaker 2 (52:06):
Well, that's what we're talking about earlier, right you kind
of you were like, this is what I need and
it happened.
Speaker 3 (52:11):
Yes, And we are both in a relationship that really
understands that happiness comes from within. And we are in
the process of trying to come up with maybe a
book or some kind of coaching practice where we could
help other people deal with their relationships and themselves.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
So happiness is said comes with from within. You mean you, yourself,
separately from the other person, has to find your own
way to happiness.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
Yes, because you can't really be the person that's likable
and lovable unless you take care of yourself first. That's
really important in my.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
Do you use any tools such as crystals, sage lighting, candles,
do you have like do you use taliman talismans and
any kind of ritualistic tools.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
My My regular ritual is meditation. I do have crystals,
but they're more for like I feel like they are
uh they carry the frequencies that will allow more light
in the house for instruments or negate certain electromagnetic frequencies. Uh.
So I believe in that, And I do believe in
(53:37):
sage clearing, and because that's all energy, and and I
think if there are tools that can help improve the
energy of a place or a person, I think it's
it's worth using.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
Yeah, there are a lot of people that think that
crystals do kind of emanate their own energy or can
amplify the energy that you're feeling.
Speaker 3 (54:06):
I agree. I believed in that too, and it's a
whole I'm not an expert in crystals, but there are
a number of experts out there who can, who have
a lot of stories and understandings about how crystals can
really help an environment or a person.
Speaker 2 (54:28):
Yeah, And in addition to that, I think I think
they go hand in hand. I've personally started on occasion
listening to like four hundred and thirty two hurts music. Okay, yeah,
I know, and I started dabbling in the binaurmal music
as well. It's very helpful. It's at relaxation, very very helpful.
(54:48):
It can really calm the mind pretty quickly.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
Yes, I also have a tool called new Calm, and
it helps with relaxing the mind. Or when in the
afternoon and you feel sleepy, just go to sleep with
that one and it kind of brings up the alpha
waves and helps with It's almost like a meditation while sleeping.
Speaker 2 (55:12):
So yeah, all right, Karina, thank you so much for
joining tonight. I could keep chatting with you. I wish
we had more time.
Speaker 3 (55:19):
Oh it's fun. Thank you so much too.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
Absolutely so. If you can leave us with one final thought,
what would it be.
Speaker 3 (55:28):
That I want to thank you for listening to Alan
and myself for exploring your magnificence, because in stations like
this we are really just reminding each other of how
magnificent we are and how much power we each have
and more to explore.
Speaker 2 (55:48):
All right, perfect, Karina, Thank you so much. Everyone, Thank
you for joining us. If you want to find out
more about Karina Marshall, please go to Unlimited self dot
us and to everyone in chat. I love you, guys.
I really appreciate you and your questions and the comments.
Thank you so much for sticking with Mystic Lounge. Even
after that long hiatus. We are back. We've got regular
(56:10):
episodes of Mystic Lounge and Coffee and UFOs straight through
the holidays, so it's gonna be really really awesome season.
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Speaker 3 (57:26):
As the US.
Speaker 2 (57:28):
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