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November 11, 2025 25 mins
Meet Elsbeth, the creator behind the viral Dallas dating interviews on the Katy Trail. She shares how the espresso cup mic idea started, what she has learned about modern dating in Dallas, and where the best first dates actually happen in the city. Follow Elsbeth @_elsbeats_ Get more show at MZNOW

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Now.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
So I was trying to do something nice for the
building this week, or I guess for Christmas, and I
was gonna throw a like a holiday party, and I
was trying to think of something to do. I thought
about riding a Santa Claus and then maybe doing like
a gourmet hot chocolate bar, which I didn't even know
if that exists, but somebody could come in and bring

(01:00):
a bar make hot chocolate for people, Now, that'd be
something nice to do. So I found a company in
Dallas that does that, and so I reached out for
a quote. I'm like, hey, we only need you here
from maybe an hour, hour and a half. How much
do you think they would charge to come out to
make gourmet hot chocolate for people in this building? Did

(01:21):
they ask a number of people? Yeah, I told them
between twenty or thirty. It's first come, first serve wherever
shows I'm going to say twelve hundred dollars, Okay, an
hour an hour or well, twelve hundred for the setup
and then whatever crap they want to baconto it. Okay ooh, I.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
Would probably say eight hundred maybe, wow.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Okay, Bell's abeth.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
I had no idea either. I'll tell you this. I
thought maybe three point fifty. It's hot chocolate.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Well, it's definitely high in the net because they're bringing
you up too.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yeah, by that by Gore made. They they're putting like
a marshmallow in there or something, you know, like a
gram packer. Right, uh, Spider, what do you think it is?
Did I tell you already?

Speaker 3 (02:02):
No?

Speaker 2 (02:03):
I would go six hundred and sixty six dollars all right.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
When I got the quote it was six hundred and
fifty bucks to do an hour and a half one person.
I'm like to boil water and to put a hot
chocolate package in there. So yeah, we're probably not gonna
do that.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
You're gonna do it yourself.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Then, yeah, Devn's gonna do it. Give him an apron
and he just make hot chocolate.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
He probably would too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Uh no, I don't know what to do now. So
I think the Santa Claus is still on. I don't
know how much the Santa Claus would cost per hour.
But we thought I would love to get Tim Allen,
but I think it's out of our the the sas,
the Santa Claus. No, no, that's not the that's these
Santa Claus right.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
Now, just have Clark put the whole little setup on
and then just go to Costco get some cookies.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Like, you don't need to do all it.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
My pops was a Santa Claus for J. C. Penny
back in the day. See he still looks like he
looks like saying.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
But it's tied dollar. He's worked for a big company.
I can't that will press you for money.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
But he also has dementias, so he might forget, so
you don't have to pay him.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Oh perfect, just don't remind him. Yeah, but yeah, so
that's been my whole thing. I still, I mean, Christmas
is right around the corner, and I can't figure out
what we're going to do yet. And I've already kind
of committed verbally that I'm going to do something, so
I have to figure out something to do. But anyway,
Elsabeth is here, ELL's best, Ell'sbeth. Why do I put
the A in there? ELL's o Beth because Elsbeth am

(03:25):
I the only one that does ever weird?

Speaker 3 (03:26):
No, I get called so many things.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Okay, I love the name though, Are you named after somebody?

Speaker 4 (03:31):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (03:32):
My mom's British. It was originally supposed to be Elle's
Peth with a P, but my mom got so much
crap from Americans, so she changed it to a b Elle'sbeth.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
That's great.

Speaker 5 (03:44):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
You talk to people on the Katie Trail mostly about dating. Yes,
is that pretty much how you would sum it up?

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yes, that's how I sign them up.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (03:52):
And what got you started in that? Because it's very
creative what you do. You're not just interviews. First off.
Street interviews do really well on social media, but you're
not even just do that. You have a red cup,
you have a little microphone on the cup. It's very
like you're making it your own, which I really appreciate.
But why did you even get started doing that?

Speaker 3 (04:08):
I've just always been into entertainment, and I've always been
into connecting people and interviewing people. And when people met me,
I want them to feel a shot of something. So
I'm like, I want them to feel sometime a shot.
So that I thought of an espresso cup.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Who's filming you too? Are you just setting it up
on a tripod?

Speaker 3 (04:27):
And then you're When I started, I had friends film
and now I have a videographer.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Oh wow, that's how big are getting? Yes, So how
many times a week do you go out and shoot
these videos?

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Twice a week?

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Really?

Speaker 3 (04:38):
I used to go every day when I first started,
I would go as many times as I could.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Now do you wave them down? Like, hey, can I
interview you?

Speaker 5 (04:44):
Like?

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Because a lot of these people are like in the
middle of their job.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
It looks like yes, No, I just go up to
them and I say, hey, I'm a dating journalist. I
think you'd be great for my show. I would love
to interview you.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Now here's why I think you started doing this. I
think you went on the apps and you go, this
is just too much, the swiping, the whatever. I'm gonna
go out the kid's trail. I'm gonna make a show
and if I find somebody, I'm gonna make content. And
if I happen to find somebody that we click, then
it's a win win, right. Was there an idea behind
that too? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (05:10):
The idea was there were just so many really eligible
singles and they were just having a hard time. I
just wanted to market them and put them on a
bigger platform rather than an app. Yeah, put them in
front of thousands and thousands of people.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Now you know who they are right now, you see them.
They're not just somebody from an app.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Right now.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
You talked about you always loved entertainment. What did you
do before this?

Speaker 3 (05:32):
I went to drama school, and then I also worked
for the Dallas Cowboys. I had an internship there, and
I had a show at Notre Dame. I went there.
I went to Saint Mary's College, and then I also
went to Notre Dame for film and television, so I
had a show there. So I was always in the
entertainment realm.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
When you were younger, did you enjoy doing like plays
and stuff?

Speaker 3 (05:54):
When I created and wrote plays in my backyard, but
I wasn't in any drama classes or anything. I went
to a very academic, difficult school. Didn't really allow me
to explore my creativity.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
So now you're doing it, now, now I'm doing it.
I'm doubling down off. Yes, what was the one thing
that clicked?

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Like?

Speaker 1 (06:12):
This is what I'm gonna do Because there's a lot
of different avenues to go into when you're doing content creation.
Why this one?

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Because I noticed that people have a deep, deep fear
of approaching strangers and it gives me a thrill, and
I do it like second nature, and so I knew
that I could really be successful at it, and a
lot of people couldn't do it. So I knew it
was a niche and that's why I started interviewing strangers

(06:42):
or people.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah. Well, and then you're also hitting on the two
things that people love, right. They love dating stuff like
you know, the plot, the balloon type situation, and then
they also love man on the street interviews.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yes, so you're doing it's real and raw and authentic.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Nothing that gets more views than if we just if
we went out and we just did like a comic
or whatever. Nothing. It's more views than just that raw,
just you know, really not edited at all content.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Right.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Where do you want to take this? What's the next
step for you?

Speaker 3 (07:11):
I honestly my dream is to act, perform and write
shows that I create. So I want to create a
character from this. I mean, my stage name whatever is
called El's Beats. But I want to have an alter
ego and I won't reveal that what.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
The character's name yet?

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yet?

Speaker 1 (07:30):
But that's great. So all this is leading up to something, Yes,
leading up to something.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
I thought I wanted, you know, matchmaking or whatever whatever,
but I'm like, I love entertainment and stuff.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
This is just one step.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah, one step.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Now.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
I noticed there's a you know a lot of the
guys that you stop or shirtless? Is that the requirement
to know?

Speaker 3 (07:51):
They just happened to all the freaking shirtless.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
I just noticed that I was going through and I
was looking. I'm like, well, I guess that's it. There's
nobody either wearing clothes on the Kdie Trail or.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
No, they happened to all be shirtless. Yes, crazy.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah. You ask a lot about restaurants first date. Where
would you take these people?

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Right?

Speaker 1 (08:07):
What's the number one place in Dallas that you think
people are taking people on the first date? Bowen House
really for the first day.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
First day, it's a thing, it's a vibe. But everyone
takes their first date to Bowen House. Wow.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
And the parking is so hard, So like what you
might get in there, you might you might have a seat,
you might not get in there.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, but it's it's Bowen house.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
But yeah, I went there a couple of days ago,
and I saw so many couples and then couples making
out in the corner, and I don't know all sorts
of things.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
There must be a resurgence because it used to be
back in the day when I would go to Bone House,
it would be like on Sunday nights, of course I
would go and there would be like three people there.
Oh yeah, now's yeah, wow, all right, worst like worst
date story. What's the worst date story you ever heard?
On the Katie Trail?

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Worst date story? So I have a friend she went
on a first date and he had a care package
for her, and he gave her a candle with his
name and his phone number on it and named the
candle after himself and created this scent.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Did we know what the set was? Good or bad?

Speaker 3 (09:16):
I mean it was just like he gave that to her,
and then he gave her matches with his phone number
on it, and he also gave her like a certificate
of a golf lesson with him. I just thought that
was a bit cringey, but I mean creative on his part, right.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah, she was probably thinking like, wow, this is so
she's never had anything like this before. Yeah, there's a
reason why.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yeah, there's a reason why. But yeah, I made it
very personal with the candle and his phone number on it.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Sean, would you if some guy brought you a candle
and matches.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
Listen, I would think this point black magic At that
point he was trying to spell on her. Yeah, and
who's just sitting around my first thigh as I'm too
logical as how many of these candles you guys set
up somewhere just to.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Have I'm ready for a care pack a week, but
I don't had a bag, had own everything, the candle plug.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, the first time doing that.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Yeah, but I'm just that was just I've never heard
someone doing that.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
That's insane. Actually, So have you been like talking to
somebody and then they take you out? Have that? Has
that happened a.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Couple of times? That's happened a couple of times?

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (10:26):
And where are they taking you? Bowe house? Uh?

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Usually coffee dates?

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Has it worked? Is it worked better than the apps
for you? Because maybe that's what Sean should do.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yeah, yeah, I use the apps as a marketing tool.
People kind of know who I am or just with
the videos they see, They're like, oh, she's the Katie
Trail girl. But I use the apps to like recruit
people to interview and stuff.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Oh even better, I'm sitting right here.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
Next time. You just want to drag me along with
one of them shareless folks, Yeah, me up. Or if
she's fine, I don't care.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Sean's going to have a bottle of Hennessy with a
mic on it. I don't want that.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
Kind of man that would be attract to buy about right,
What are the.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Top three date spots other than Bow and House that
you see people take to, or that you if someone
was gonna take you where you would prefer to go.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
I'm honestly not really a food snob. But the places
that I really like is written by the Seasons in
oak Cliffe and visual Arts. Uh yeah, bone House, I
chill spots like Dose Messes on McKinney. That's a great spot.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
And I would have to say, if you really want
to go, if you really want to impress your date,
take them to mister Charles.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Oh yeah, I did that and we almost got kicked out.
Promise I'd take it the wrong people to mister Charles.
I think it's my problem yeah, the top three worst
places to be.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
I think like the worst places is like going to
Skellegg or something.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yeah, something like that. I'm I think that's just so. Yeah,
I'm Chili's. Is Chili's on that list or would that
be up on the best places?

Speaker 3 (12:06):
Oh? I think Chili is great chill I think so too.
But my ideal date is going to Sonic or Waterburger,
driving around and watching the skyline.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah, I'm bury right, have you? You know there's always
red flags guys and girl dating, red flags right on
the Katie trail when you're talking to these people, have
you had more red flags that you didn't think about
that you know now to look out for because you
talked to a lot of these people.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Now the red flags. I did interview this guy. He
went to Harvard.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
His name's Kyle, red Flag Kyle.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
But he's a lacrosse player, amazing guy. But his red
flag was very eye opening. He said a lot of
Dallas families produced girl bosses that their dads pay their rent.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah, yeah, back, yeah. Now for somebody like Clark's in
here on this chair over here, if he's wanting to
go out and meet somebody, where are the top three
places to go for somebody like him? And I said
somebody like him, I mean somebody's wearing flip flops in
twenty three weather.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Okay, Katie Trail.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Would you go to the Katie Trail? I feel like
you would go do the Katie Trail? I mean I've
been on a walk?

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Or yeah, I've been on a walk. You got to
take your shirt off?

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Okay, well wait are you single? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Why do you act surprise?

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Okay, wow, you're single too.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
See how you know that? You don't know Katie Trail?
What what other two places would you say that I
would go?

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Know that that if you're looking for picking up a
younger chick. Oh maybe monkey Bar?

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Did I take you a monkey Bar? Clark?

Speaker 3 (13:50):
No, because you weren't trying to me? No, not that.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
But I think I showed you around Highland Park because
you were looking at good date spar spots. Did we
go to Monkey Bar that day? I try to stay
the hell out of Holland Park? Okay?

Speaker 3 (14:02):
I would say, then Hendy's is your best spot, Hendy's
on Henderson, Yes, you should go to Hendy's.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
Is that like?

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Where where is that at on Henderson?

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Is it close? To scaling. Yes, it's in between skelling
and the old Jake's okay. Yeah, so it looks way.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Cooler than it used to do though. Good deal.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah, I just I don't date, so that's that's kind
of the thing. Well, we're gonna get him twenty twenty six,
the new year. We're gonna get him out there and
make them date again. Yeah, make Clark date again. We
have hats coming for a girl like Sean who's looking
for you know, somebody, uh where. We're the top three
place a girl goes in Dallas to try to find
a nice guy.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Katie Trail, k Trail, green Light Social okay, okay, Colombian
country Club. Oh the Colombian I mean Dwight Powell hangs
out there a lot. He's a great guy. Yeah, basketball player.
You want guys like that? Do you want to you
seem like you want an athlete? Yeah, I know. Yeah, yeah,

(15:06):
I would say that.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
I actually have a question for you, since you said
it's second nature for you to just approach anybody, what
tips would you give someone who's very like scared Because
a lot of what I see in the dating scene
when you try to do it in person, is that
a lot of people are just scared or they have
to get super drunk in order to approach someone.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Right, So I'm sober. I mean I've never drink alcohol
in my life. I never touched it or anything. So
even in college I was I didn't even drink. So
I got the reps in of just approaching people. But
your question was, what's a tip.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
Yeah, that you would give people that are on the
opposite side of that that are scared to approach.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
I mean, just think of the end goal. It's like sales,
like you have to keep doing it.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Numbers.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, I mean rejection is not I mean that's just
it's numb. I mean it's what am I saying? Not numb.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
But you have to be the rejection. Yeah, I know
who cares like you just you didn't know this person
existed two seconds ago, right, and it's not going to
change your life now that they said no thanks.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
But also being a woman gives me an advantage, especially
approaching men. I'm a woman, Like they're going to be like,
oh wow, a girl approached me, right, right, so they're
more inclined to say yes.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
Yeah, I'm thinking more so. I guess if a man
wanted to approach someone and they're kind of shy.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Their self conception has to be really strong. Yeah, and
their self conception is weak, then forget it because girls
just going to think they're creepy.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Look at you. Here you are, you're you're you want
to do an entertainment thing, but here you are like
a relationship coach.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
Yeah. Sure. I just read a lot about psychology and
all that.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
So, so when you started posting your first video, did
it get a lot of views right away or how
did that beginning start?

Speaker 3 (16:54):
I started the concept May first. I remember this year
of this year. I remember really clearly. I was very
scared because I was interviewing people and bishop arts and
it just wasn't working. So my friends, my friends were like,
you need to go to the KD trail. Hot people
around the k trail. So I was like, okay, fine,
So I started May first. My first viral video was

(17:15):
June tenth.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Wow, it's my birthday. Yeah, you got a little special
star power there.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
And then after that just kind of snowballed right right.
And then now who you are. You've got like almost
forty thousand people on Instagram, you have a lot on TikTok, my.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
TikTok audience is small.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
I only have like eight thousand, which is weird because
I think it would do better on TikTok, but I
guess it didn't.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
No, it did Instagram.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah yeah, so yeah, people coming up to you all
the time now because they know.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yes, it's I was not expecting that.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah. You overhear at Sonic and somebody comes up, Oh,
you're the girl that does dating this stuff. Yeah yeah, yes, wow, Yeah,
I is that weird for you because you're the one
approaching them now they're approaching Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
I was in Austin and people recognized me when I
was an aust It was crazy. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
And this is just like a little project you were
trying to do. This wasn't like anything passion Yeah, I knew.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
I just had a passion for it and I believed
in myself.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Yeah, and here you are and here it is. And
next time we have you on, you're gonna be doing
like a movie and you're gonna we're gonna talking about
something totally different and we won't have any dating questions
for you or anything like that. Right, You'll be doing
a TV show, a YouTube site and something.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, making my own deal.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, I really like seeing creative people who go out
there and do something different. Again, the man on the
street thing, We've all done it. It's not a new bit,
but you go out there and go, I'm gonna make
it different because I'm gonna use the espresso, cops, I'm
gonna I'm going to talk to people about date. It's
really great. It's a great concept, and it really is
so cool to watch you do this and be passionate
about it and then watch how quickly you've grown. Really

(18:48):
you've only done it, like for six months, right.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
I will say I was very inspired by the show
called Chicken Shop Date okay with Amelia I can't de Muldenburg.
And yeah, I was inspired by her and she interviews
people as if she's on a date in a chicken
shop and that. Oh yeah, I was inspired by her.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
I do have a correction.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, Hendy's is where Capital used to be. It's Mayor's
Garden is where Jake's was. That's like a sports.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Hendy's is Capital. That was spoozy though, right, so Susie
closed and now Hendy's is in there. Okay, go ahead, Eric, Sorry,
oh no, sorry, I'm a little late, a little late yeah,
he was here till like one thirty of the morning
last night.

Speaker 5 (19:30):
So but also I was here that I waited fifteen
minutes outside to get brought in. Anyways, correction, well Catherine's
not here to let you in.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Sorry.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
Oh right, Yeah, so you're on the khral, you're interething
people to go and date with you or just like
any people like about dating.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
In general, interviewing people, but it's people are meeting other
people through my interviews.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Oh I see, okay, so you're tagging them.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
I'm tagging them and yeah, I know three or four
people are dating right now.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
They hit you up and let you know, like, hey,
thank you so much. That's cool.

Speaker 5 (20:02):
So we had someone in here last night and we
were talking about dating.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
It's weird, weird enough.

Speaker 5 (20:08):
I told them that I probably wouldn't date them almost
so for ten years, so it is I'm I'm album
with somebody for ten years. So I've been for ten years,
so I'm out of the game. But just like in theory,
this lady was like, oh, I'm single, you know, I'm
trying to date or whatever. But her like just her
prerequisite of just like going on a date. There's so

(20:30):
many limitations on it that. I'm like, you know what,
like if I was, like I was asking you on
a date, like it would have ended because you've already
had Like it's just like she had limitations on food.
So she's I don't I don't eat you on a bone,
I don't eat onions, I don't eat what was it?
Michael Like yeah, long list? And it's like, girl, what
do you eat? Because I wouldn't even know where to

(20:51):
take you.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
That's one of my biggest things. I've taken girls out
that have all these dietary restrictions and it's and it's
like eating is such an important part, not eating, like
the experience, and so go into a restaurant, Oh this
is so good. Try that, Like that whole thing is
so important. And if you can't eat you know, anything
on the menu, it kind of disrupts everything. There's no
bonding over anything.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
Yeah, So I'm like you have a I guess, like
a mental note like oh my gosh, be a perfect
person for Sally. It's all like how do you make
that correlation? Because it's like this person is so limited
on what they want to do for a day.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
It's like.

Speaker 5 (21:26):
I don't even know, like how would you even like
make that person compatible with somebody else?

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Well, I don't.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
I just interview them and then they.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Enough.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Well, maybe you should do this. Ask people the foods
they don't eat, because that's gonna be a big thing.
If I if you're interviewing a girl and she's like,
I don't eat this, this, this, then I can go,
oh no, thanks, I can't go anywhere.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Yea, I should ask that about food choices.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
And favorite movies. I'll give you a whole list after
the show of things you could ask that'll help me out.
You also know Doc, you're also oh, yes, Doc is.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
The man before when I was doing it, he gave
me really amazing encouragement and he was like, you're going
to kill it, change the world. You can do whatever
you want. Just those words of wisdom and beliefs. I
really took it to heart and just.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, I took it, he said.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
I took that, and I really believed that he believed
in me. And then I started what I've been doing.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
I texted the other day, I say, hey, can you
send me some words of encouragement? And he goes, who's this?
He just blocked me. After that, Where can people find you?
If we want to follow you and your journey.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
And Instagram at underscore Elsbeat's underscore.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
What advice would you get to somebody who's wanting to
do what you do? Maybe not the same type genre,
but but I want to get into that. What would
you tell them?

Speaker 3 (22:50):
My biggest thing is imagination creates reality. So the stronger
you are and what you the more clear and what
you want to do, It's going to happen the more
you repeat it in your head and people will come
in your life. Synchronicities will happen to transform your dream
into what you want.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah, so just go for it.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Believe in it, just really believe in it. But it's
very cosmic. I'm very spiritual, so everything is super the
divine timing.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Right, What would you tell somebody who doesn't really have
the idea yet but they know they want to do it,
but they don't have the idea. What do I want
to do? You know, I want to go maybe talk
to people. I don't know what to talk to him about.
How would you help them find their way?

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Honestly, do lots of introspection, really know who you are
and really search like what do you like? Like? What
lights you up? And the more you talk to people,
the more you'll get a clarity on what you want
to do to.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
Just do it.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Yeah, just do it.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
It's funny because I tell people that all the time.
They're like, I don't know if I do, so just
do the one or two. You don't even have to
show anybody.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
But the key is to have really good friends around you.
That helps you. That's your soundboard. That's how that's what
I have, that's why I'm where I am.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yeah, so they help you. If you can, you pitch
ideas to him and they tell you that's the idea.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
One of my friends, her name is Victoria. She's becoming
a therapist, and she would just sit there and listen
to me, like all the time, and just she would
just listen. I would just talk, and by hearing myself
talk out loud, my ideas became into fruition.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah, that's how I do. That's Eric. Eric's my therapist. Yeah, Hey,
let me call you real quick, and then we'll be
on the phone for three hours and I'm doing all
the talking and he's like, yeah, I think that's a
good idea. I'll tell him yeah it's a bad idea, right, right.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Usually it's a bad idea, but yeah, you just need
a soundboard and.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
That's it, right, Yeah, no, I think that's great. Anything
you want to leave us with or is that you
think you've you've got it all. You said it all.
We'll see you on the Katie Trail. What's your favorite expresso?
Is there a different type of expresso?

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Is it just one thing?

Speaker 1 (24:53):
It's just one thing, just one thing.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
Okay, are an espresso cups?

Speaker 1 (24:57):
So yeah, but there's no like a certain type of espresso.
There's not an Italian espresso or anything like that. Okay.
I know nothing about coffee. I go to Starbucks next
door every day, but I get the same thing, cold brew.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
So all right, Well, thank you so much for coming by,
and hopefully this is not the last time we see you.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Yes, thank you.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
I'll be on Yes, we'll see you then.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
This is mz now online at mznow dot tv, like
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