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May 27, 2025 63 mins
Michael is fed up—and he’s not holding back.

Eric opens up about his emotional rollercoaster with Katherine, who keeps everyone guessing with her ever-changing style.

Plus, Clark is keeping the semi-colons alive, but using them wrong.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're abound to enter the world of Michael Zaballa. Now's
your chance to turn back.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Gave Michael those two read will do uh or something?

Speaker 3 (00:17):
I can't hear you.

Speaker 4 (00:21):
I'm just amazed that's what you're thinking about.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
This is m Z. Now.

Speaker 5 (00:55):
I don't know what we're gonna talk about today because
I'm just so pissed. Everything's pissing me on the if
you if you would have asked me, Michael, how how's
your past three weeks been a complete train wreck? If
anything could go wrong, it went wrong. But I'm on
the other side of it.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
So I left you alone because I knew you were
going through some things and I was.

Speaker 5 (01:16):
Like, you know what, yeah, sort of being like, hey,
how can I help?

Speaker 6 (01:18):
Right right right, I'm like, I get away from this
person right that way he won't target me.

Speaker 5 (01:23):
Next, I told Eric one of my problems and I
never heard from him again.

Speaker 6 (01:28):
Well, I was going to solve one of those problems
that he was all like, welly am already doing this
and that, and I'm all like, okay, well he's.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Said, yeah, let me just tell you. Let me tell
you this.

Speaker 5 (01:37):
If I die, Eric takes over, right, Okay, there's no hesitating.
He is going to make some changes. I would day one. Yeah,
he's already told me what he's gonna do.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Already know that.

Speaker 6 (01:48):
Oh yeah, I have fifteen years of operational management.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, and I'll tell you one thing. They will be
immediate changes.

Speaker 6 (01:59):
The very day, well we'll go, We'll have a couple
of days for boohoo ing, right, and the next day
is down of business. And I owed one hundred percent
of this company.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 5 (02:12):
Yeah when I when I die, it all goes to Eric.
He's the only one who knows how to run all
this stuff.

Speaker 6 (02:16):
I don't want to cut. I wasn't a cuss I
how to stop myself. Yeah, I'm like, wait a minute, Now,
that's going to change. After I'm dead, cussing is allowed.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Oh yeah, okay, I'm going to have the little e
nex to like the podcast. Yeah for everyone. Uh now,
let me tell you that.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
You know, I'm so irritated with everything. I'll tell you
one of the things that really irritated me just recently,
and it's Clark.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
But wait, I have not surprise Clark.

Speaker 5 (02:41):
Yeah, listen, if there's one person that is keeping the
semi colon alive, it's Clark.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
The semi colon.

Speaker 7 (02:48):
Oh I thought he said semi colon, like I keep
the whole calon alive. He keeps half the calling alive.
And uh, you know, if you want to use some
you know, old sings like Trouser stewardess u mode.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
That's fine in the advance.

Speaker 5 (03:06):
The fact that he uses the semi clones doesn't, you know,
irritate me. It's that he uses it wrong, right, Okay,
he uses it in its text message. You use it
in place of a common text messages. Yeah, yeah, you
use it? Yeah, okay, grammer Nazi. The other day he
said we're nationals. Yes, thank you, grammar national.

Speaker 6 (03:26):
I'm very shocked in beside myself right now because I
would never.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Thought I didn't know my punctuation would just throw you
over the edge. Man Clark's grammar would be in that
level of despair. Right.

Speaker 6 (03:37):
It's very bad because everything else, I mean, I can
go to him for like you know, ancyclopedia knowledge, just
things I don't even want to know.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
He would tell me. Okay, but now I'm questioning that.

Speaker 5 (03:50):
Yeah, I mean, I just don't don't like we have
to go back to basics here. So I looked at
it and I'm like, this just looks really weird. This
is a sentence, right, He texts me, Okay, semi call,
I'll be there after work tomorrow. Simmy Colin always like
I'm recognizing right away because I don't see it very often.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
I read a lot of books.

Speaker 5 (04:07):
No one uses the semi because at the point, the
whole point of the semi colon is to take two
sentences to put it together. When you can just make
two sentences like pick one, why you gotta join It's
like people with three last names, they're all hyphenates.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Just pick one. Yeah, I could see how instead of
looking at a dot versus a comma with a dot
above it above it could just send you through a No.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
No, it's not even that. It's like I just noticed
a semi colon. So then I look at it. I'm like, well,
that's weird. I never say. It's like seeing a wild animal.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Did you spend Did you spend I hope he spent
five minutes. Oh yeah, at least I spent at least
because I looked at him like, it doesn't right. Researching
the rules for use of a SEMICLM.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
No, I didn't even have to do that I looked
at it and I go, I go, remember we live
in the age of AI. Okay, So I look at
it and I go, this doesn't seem right. I think
that's supposed to be a comma, but I don't know.
So I screenshot it. I sent it to AI because
I'm thinking Clark should know about it. Clark's been in
school half his life, right, you know he was in
school well into his you know, late.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:01):
So I I thought, if anybody knows how to write
a paper, he does, right, he does how to use punctuation.
So I put it in in uh chagy bt like, no,
it's totally incorrect. Even chatgy pe was blown away, like what, no, wonder.

Speaker 6 (05:13):
We're taking over all the servers had come to that
yeah search that you're put.

Speaker 5 (05:17):
In Once I put Once I put that thing in,
it says, uh, the servers are overused.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Please don't send me more stuff.

Speaker 5 (05:24):
Was so enamored with or not enamored, but confused on
why somebody would use that. But it's supposed to be
a comma.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Well you know that you know that papers written by
AI cannot be submitted for so why would you be
asking You know that I have the uh when it's
not allowed to be used to be You know, I
have that book. There's a booklet.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
I forgot what it's called, but it's like the Oxford
it's the it talks about the Oxford Comma. It's it's
all about punctuation, Grandma. So then I took my cheaters
out glasses. I don't wear glasses yet, but as soon
as I start wearing glasses might sell and get my
cheaters out. And I'm gonna go pull that little grunt
that book, and I'm gonna look at it. I looked
at it and it says the Simmi Colin does not

(06:06):
go after an. Okay, I'll go find my m l
A A. But they didn't even use it la anymore.
It's out to do it. That's outdating, really, yeah, it
outdated Laurie Wilder. Okay, we don't use that anymore, sure,
William Shakespeare. Uh So, anyway, that's that's irritated me. And
then as soon as I got that thing figured out,
I saw a video on TikTok that six Flags over

(06:28):
Arlington or whatever, Texas no longer has the Looney Tunes
in the Cave Ride anymore. I told you that, you
told me, that's right. It pissed me off.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
I was upset.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
That was the only reason to go to that six Flags. Yeah,
you know what it is now like.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
A Pirates of the Caribbean.

Speaker 6 (06:42):
Yeah not eat Yeah, like Pirates of something or whatever.
But then when I went for my birthday, like I
think it was it two years ago, three years ago,
they had a sign on it and was like, oh,
it's shut down. But because based off of like floods
that happened two years ago prior to that, Well, I'm
just like, well, then y'all shows that alone, y'all should
left Looney Tunes.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
Then.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
Yeah, I wonder if they lost the license. I wonder
if they have the little looning tune land still do they? No,
all of it's gone, so they have to have lost
the license.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
I didn't see no anybody looming anything at all.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
Yeah, that's probably what happened. They probably had like a
twenty year or whatever because it was there forever.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 5 (07:14):
And I never planned to go back to six Flags,
but in my mind, I thought, maybe I will just
to ride that looting right again.

Speaker 7 (07:19):
That's what I was actually looking forward to was loading
tune stuff. I don't have the DC stuff there. But okay,
so they do still love DC.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, DC.

Speaker 6 (07:26):
But when you first walk in, you normally when you
walk to the right, all the loading to the right, Yeah,
to the right.

Speaker 7 (07:32):
Every time I got a you know, six flags, you know,
to the right. Ill, like I'm just trying to visualize
going forward, right and left and just the fact that
you said to the right, like now it's painting a
clear picture.

Speaker 6 (07:43):
Yeah, because there's two ways to go left right, and
it's just funny. Well, and there entered, there's a fountain,
a fairis will you can't go and you can't go
anywhere there. So they left the right, the left to
the sobrero to the to the log ride right for tunes,
but how it's like this nasty not even working pirate thing.

(08:03):
Or you can different and you can go to the
Loney tune store and the and they have like the
characters there.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
But it's not there anymore. No, it's not there.

Speaker 5 (08:12):
Yeah, there's no point to go six flags anymore. They
got to shut that down.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Who goes there? Made the audio little yeah.

Speaker 5 (08:18):
The little racist stereotypes and stuff. I miss all that.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, speaking in Zellas.

Speaker 5 (08:23):
George went passed away rip, which I had seen, like
at the beginning of the year a TMZ article of
him going to dialysis and he was like in a
walker or a wheelchair or something.

Speaker 8 (08:33):
Souse.

Speaker 5 (08:33):
I knew he had had some health problems, and they
said that, uh, he was a lot like his or
he said that he was a lot like his character
in Cheers, where he was, you know, constantly, you know,
pounding back them beers and uh so that probably had
a lot to do with it. I don't know, but uh,
what a great guy, what a funny guy, great actor.
And he died what is thirty thirty two years to

(08:56):
the day of the Cheers finale? Wow, thirty two years
to the day. What a great show. That show is
thinking about going back and rewatching it so great all time? Yeah,
well I wouldn't go that. More Landy Griffin is up
there too, Hogan's heroes up there too. Get smart?

Speaker 2 (09:13):
What else? Family matters?

Speaker 7 (09:15):
No, family matters is not even in the same realm
as Cheers.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
But yeah, it's you know, it was sad to wake
up to see. In fact, I saw Dan O'Malley and
the Treehouse people they posted first, and that's how I
found out it wasn't on TMZ or anything right away,
so I was like, what, So that's kind of sad. Also,
the past couple of weeks, I've been trying to make
my old cold my own cold brew because Kirby Eric's
partner was talking me into that. Because I spent a

(09:41):
lot of money on coldbrew. The five dollars cold brew
right here I go. I spent I drink so much
cold brew. The girls downstairs, I've never even met half
of them. At the Starbucks down there, they already hey, Michael,
you want your cold brew. I'm like, I've never even talked.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
To you before. How do you know that? Yeah? But
they they know it. I'm like, yeah, absolutely, yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:58):
But I go like two times a a day or
two times a week, two times a week, I go,
you know, But it's I think it all started because
there was one girl there. We need to have her
on the show. She's really good at her job, like
she remembers me. She has a conversation and I would
see like once a week. And now because of her,
I think all the other people know who I am. Yeah,
and so they she goes like like last week, she goes,

(10:20):
we haven't seen you in a while we're me and
my coworker just talking about you. I'm like, what, I'm
only in here like forty seconds.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
I wonder what they say though, Yeah, you know what,
you know what?

Speaker 5 (10:28):
That's that's why I want to have rend her to
find out, you know what. Anything happened is I probably
didn't pay for a drink, probably like I forgot to
tap it or whatever, and I walked out, and so
they do that to make sure that I don't walk out.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
With the drink.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Now they have your picture, yeah, on the wall. That's
what I think happens.

Speaker 6 (10:40):
This is the guy and you can tell he's very
very short.

Speaker 5 (10:43):
So and you're not sure he's gonna blend in with
all the other Mexicans around here. He's gonna be wearing
a loud clothing with cartoon characters that no one's talked
about for thirty years.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
That's what I was gonna see.

Speaker 5 (10:55):
Yeah, yeah, So that's why I want to have written
here to be like what why?

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Because they know it.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
And again, if I went in there every day, that'd
be one thing, right, But I'm there twice a week
thirty seconds. A lot of times I even order it
online and then I just walk in there and there's
a big crowd. I grab my drinks and roll out.
But I am treated like a movie star over there.

Speaker 6 (11:12):
I mean I could see why I remember you. I mean,
he said the clothing. I think it's also the mouth.
I mean, you talk about some like very interesting.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
But I'm I'm not chatting with anybody. I'm just in
your mind.

Speaker 5 (11:27):
And then I may have a little small talk and
I walk out.

Speaker 7 (11:30):
Your small talk is a little long talk. I mean
it's not small. Yeah, but I know that they're busy,
so I try to ready talk. So anyway, I spend
a lot of money on cold brew.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
And so Kirby and I were talking about this when
we were in California a few weeks ago, and I
was he was telling me he's trying to make his
own and that kind of thing. And he goes, not
that hard. And I trust him because he worked at
Starbucks for you know, half his life. And uh So
I was like, I don't know how to do it.
Do I get a machine? He goes, no, you basically
get a picture. You put the you know, the fine
grounds in there. So I said, okay, cool, So I
buy a little picture thing. I bought some and I

(12:00):
put it in there. You buy grounds, Yeah, why, that's
what you're supposed to do. No, you buy you buy
beans and grind. Now that's the whole point. I'm very busy.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
You made colbrew with soldiers, No, no, no, no.

Speaker 5 (12:12):
I bought this company called death Wish Yeah, oh god,
and they have coarse grounds that goes in it. Now,
I don't think I'm going to do this anymore because
first off, like it doesn't give you instructions on how
to actually do it, so I don't know how much water.
Like it kind of gives you some suggestions on the back,
but I don't know what to do. So I've done
this three times and I think what kind of works

(12:33):
is just topping everything off. So I put the whole filter.
I put as much grounds as I can in it,
filled a jug full of water, let it sit for
twelve hour. I do my first cup the next day,
and then like the next two or three days, I'll
have a cup. But then I don't know how much
caffeine I'm drinking because there's no nutritional facts in the
back of it. I don't know how many calories are
in this. I don't because I'm trying to only do

(12:54):
two hundred and twenty five milligrams of caffeine max a day,
which is like two cups of coffee. So if I
fill fill a little tumbler up, how much caffeine is that?
Because I don't know what's caffeine is in the thing?
So am I gonna die of a heart attack because
I put too much cold brew? When I go to Starbucks,
I know how much caffeine's in here.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
It's online.

Speaker 5 (13:14):
And then I have to also think about I didn't
think about this before Starbucks. You go there, you pay
five dollars or whatever. They give you a nice little cup.
I can drink out of the cup. I throw it
away at home. I don't get through that. I gotta
wash a cup, put the thing in there. Then I
go I only have like one or two cups, So
I got to find the other word wash it. But
it's a whole process that I can't just walk out
and leave it. You know, I got to do this
whole thing. And then what happens if I do the

(13:36):
last cold brew and I'm not home all day? I
have to have two cold brew things making cold brew
at all times. It's a lot to think about. And
then I forget if the tumbler's in the car, because
I'm so busy. Tumbler's in the car, I forgot that.
You know, coffee's in there. It's by all mildewy. I'm
making pinicelling in there. It's just too much. Whereas I
can just go to Starbucks, spend the five dollars, waste

(13:57):
no time, know what I'm putting in my body.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
And that's it. Okay, that's he sold me. Yeah he
is just to qt and do a Clark.

Speaker 5 (14:08):
Yeah, yeah, just get again. You don't know what's in there.
At seven eleven they have a cold no no, no, I
mean the nutritional value based off the cup side.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, they do. That's the large and find it out.

Speaker 5 (14:20):
At Starbucks they have a cold brew that's really good,
but there's no nutritional You can look online. So somebody
actually I saw this on a Reddit thing. They went
and they called seven eleven. They're like, how much uh
milligrams of caffeine or in your cold brew? They told
him how many calories?

Speaker 2 (14:33):
They five? But that five?

Speaker 5 (14:35):
What if you're using the big giant cup for two dollars,
how much caffeine is in there?

Speaker 2 (14:40):
You don't know? I'm sure it's on cute the QT
app at app.

Speaker 5 (14:44):
Yeah, let me know, but don't even have a QT
next to me. But anyway, so my cute, my my
colbrew journey has coming gone. You had a bone to
pick with Catherine over here. Oh yeah, Catherine. By the way,
people who don't know, she's been with us for a
couple months now.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
She's great.

Speaker 5 (15:02):
She's behind the scenes like media photographer girl.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:07):
It does a really good job because I'm a lady female.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Keep going.

Speaker 5 (15:13):
They actually we never even find out what her gender is,
so I don't even know like what she goes by, so.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
We're just the same.

Speaker 5 (15:18):
Yeah, and she does a really great job. She cuts
a lot of our reels for us, and it really
helped if she emailed us the day I was thinking
of bringing somebody on to just do this, and it
was perfect timing, like I told her, Like literally, we
finished the show and I was thinking, how great would
it be to have somebody just have a camera and
do all this stuff so I don't have to do it,
I don't have to think about it. And then they
just kind of handle it. And that day she sent

(15:40):
an email to us.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Do you even know did we talk on the show
why she did that? Yeah, why did you do that?

Speaker 4 (15:46):
Kata?

Speaker 2 (15:46):
I don't even think I know?

Speaker 9 (15:48):
Because I heard your prayers.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Oh yeah, she heard our prayers. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (15:54):
I felt it in the air, and I said, you know,
I got to contact Michael. I don't know what his
name is, but I know it. Right now, we'll send
him a message.

Speaker 5 (16:06):
Right, you felt the energy?

Speaker 9 (16:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (16:08):
Okay, all right? So Eric, what's your bone to pick
with Catherine?

Speaker 2 (16:12):
You know I have been on an emotional roller coaster
with oh you too?

Speaker 6 (16:17):
Oh no, yeah, with Catherine ever since she walked in
the door. I have to make a I just, you know,
preface the conversation. I would have I apologize ahead of
how maybe maybe more of a disclaimer Catherine, if I
offend you, I'm not trying to do.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
I don't think I will, but I don't know. Everybody's different.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
What do you say this respectfully? And if Clark was
writing it, he would say respectfully semi colon, yeah, and
then continue all right, I.

Speaker 6 (16:49):
Don't mean any any ill it will ill will when
I see any of this stuff. So okay, So when
Catherine walked in here, I didn't know what to think
because I, I mean, we all we all do it
right digit book by its cover, I was a cannor
outfit and no fancy to Catherine.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
I do this.

Speaker 6 (17:10):
I did this is Sarah too. I don't know what
to think of not your I mean I didn't know
what to think of your outfit. But also Sarah said,
but Sarah, I Sarah, I really didn't think that.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
I didn't know what to think of her fashion at all. Period.

Speaker 5 (17:23):
Yeah, Catherine at least has some sort of a coherent look.
Sarah had just whatever, like if she went to a
thrift store and just said, uh, throw me whatever you got.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Like yeah, like yes, I'll take that.

Speaker 5 (17:34):
Just it was no thoughts, dress, sweater, whatever, all together.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yes I'll take it.

Speaker 6 (17:38):
Yeah, Grandpa Blazer, Okay, Yeah, I'm like okay, but okay, yeah,
Catherine ensemble is cohesive, right. I guess I didn't know
if that like really told me you like write your
story so because it was a little contrasty, right, So
like you came in here in the studio, this environment

(18:01):
is not didn't match like what you had on. So
I was all like, wait a minute, I don't know
this person. I don't know what to think of you yet.
So I was cautious. I didn't want to offend you
at all. So okay, So then I saw you come in.
I think it was it DeVante whenever we had him.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
I think that was him. She wasn't here, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (18:23):
I forgot what guests that we had in. And then
you walked in the door and you had this athletic
black attire on with your cap and you're just like
demeanor like totally changed. Yeah, like Island Park mom. Yeah,
I'm not well, I think a little like a I
guess how to part mom. But also there was a
sense of.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Like Riverdale yeah actually yeah yeah.

Speaker 6 (18:47):
And the way that you just walked in here and
you were talking and and I was.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Like, okay, I was like, who is this person? Kid?

Speaker 6 (18:54):
I was like I didn't know this was her, and
I was, okay, I need to get to know her
now I do.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, now that he knows you're cool, right yeah? And
I was like, wait a minute, maybe there's more to
her to her. And then.

Speaker 6 (19:11):
When I first walked in today, that was the bone
that I had to pick with her.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Was like, how come you didn't tell me you were
a cool beforehand?

Speaker 8 (19:18):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Okay yeah?

Speaker 6 (19:19):
And I was all like, wait a minute, like, we
need to see this side of you more. You know,
you can be yourself or whatever.

Speaker 8 (19:25):
Right.

Speaker 6 (19:25):
Yeah, yeah, now my bone has turned into something else. Okay,
because I came in to hear with that mindset, I
was going to, you know, give her props Mama and everything, because.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
She looks she came in.

Speaker 5 (19:38):
We're an athletic outfit again today, I told her in
the elevator, Yeah, you kind of dressed like I do.
When I wear like a tracksuit, which is people automatically
think you're just like an athlete or like you're you know,
but she must be athletic. I don't know if she's
athletic or not, but that's what I do, and people
automatically assume that's what I do. And I'm like, no,
I just like the clothing. I like to be real.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
But that's but that one day she were all black.
She walked in here.

Speaker 6 (19:59):
She meant business yeah, and I was all like, yes, yeah, yeah,
you do you. I was like, yes, you do it.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (20:06):
Then I was having a conversation with her today and
I'm like, now I have no idea whose person is anymore. Yeah,
I'm on an emotional roller coaster. I lost at first
then I was found and now I'm lost again.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
Yeah, I see what you're saying because.

Speaker 6 (20:19):
And I and you can rebuttal after I say this,
because I need to know. We were having a conversation
about stuff about Las Vegas, La, you know, Universe Studios,
and I'm all like, wow, how does this girl have
been anywhere?

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Because she's like, what is that? Where is that? What's that?

Speaker 6 (20:37):
I'm just like and I said, no, Catherine, how about
to get you? This is a little be a little
more out there.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
I do feel.

Speaker 5 (20:44):
And again I don't know Katherine very well either. I'm
meeting her and you know, getting to know her as
she comes in and we have these little five minutes
before the shows and like literally but there's been no
hangout time right between any of all of us. So
it's like, hey, she comes in before the show, maybe
fifteen twenty minutes, were chatting, then after the show, maybe
fifteen twenty and that's it.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
And then I don't see her for another couple of weeks.
H So I get it. I get what you're talking about.

Speaker 6 (21:06):
But at one point I was like the conversation, I
was like, we're talked about Harry Potter, and then she
was like, I don't know too much, but now will
you be telling me? She goes, I'm interested and as
a wait a minute, Catherine, what are your interests? Because
I'm at a loss here. I t I threw so
many bones out there.

Speaker 5 (21:23):
I feel like this is my read on her thus
far is I feel like she's like one of those
girls that like to spend time in her room. Okay,
I don't think that you're Are you a reader, Catherine,
I don't think you are.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
No, she write none of the books that I told her.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
Yeah, I don't think. I don't feel like she's a reader.
I feel like she you watch your TV shows, maybe
a movie or something.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Do you? Because I threw some movies out there.

Speaker 5 (21:46):
But I think for the most part, you're like, I'm
going to be in my room in my piece. No
one bothered me. That's my read on her, but I
don't know that to be.

Speaker 6 (21:54):
And you're aries, right, Yeah, that's way different, yeah than
any areas that I'm at.

Speaker 5 (21:59):
But right works the same way. He takes off just
go make sandwiches at his house. Yeah, for a full week,
and he plays video games and eats a turkey sandwich
at his house.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
That's what he does.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
That's that's a great vacation. Don't tell me that's what
you do, Cathy. She's more human cheese. She's more human cheese.

Speaker 7 (22:15):
That Hey, you know what I thought when I first
saw you, Katherine, when when I looked at your outfit,
I thought, her body, her choice.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
That's wow, how progressive of you. Everyone's standing up, amazing.

Speaker 5 (22:30):
But you know what, hang on, hang on the fact
that you even had to think that for a woman.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Get out right after every day after he's gay.

Speaker 7 (22:42):
He's got to pass this outfit and that outfit and
that outfit.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (22:45):
Sure, but that's what you're supposed to do when you're gay.
You're supposed to give the girls compliments or tell them
critique things. That's what you're supposed to do. That's the
whole point.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
That's how it makes the world go. So you're supposed
to do when your heterosexual man. No, I was talking about.

Speaker 5 (22:57):
Just what you should have said, was I didn't even
pay attention. I didn't even notice her.

Speaker 7 (23:02):
No, no, no, because I will acknowledge that she exists.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Okay, Yeah, I was just trying to empower her, you know,
giving her by breaking her down.

Speaker 5 (23:15):
Katherine, what are you give me your top three fandoms, I.

Speaker 9 (23:19):
Will say I do.

Speaker 8 (23:21):
To Eric's point, I do change like I don't want
to say personality because.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
That's mood mood.

Speaker 5 (23:28):
Yeah okay, okay, I get that, But what are you
into top top three fandoms?

Speaker 9 (23:36):
I My first fandom was The Hunger Games.

Speaker 5 (23:39):
Okay, okay, I can see you being a Hunger Games.

Speaker 8 (23:40):
Yeah, Stan, Yeah, and I loved I also loved Taylor
Swift when I was like twelve thirteen, But.

Speaker 5 (23:49):
Now that you're grown, you don't really care as much.

Speaker 9 (23:51):
I personally have a bone to pick with her.

Speaker 5 (23:53):
Okay, Oh wow, yeah, come on, let's go after What's
what's up? She based do me to disguise your voice
so you can't.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
They don't know who you are. Yeah, yeah, she'll come
after you.

Speaker 9 (24:05):
Yeah she's just a billionaire.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah she's one of those.

Speaker 9 (24:09):
Yeah. But like right now, I mean, I really like
the White Lotus White is really good.

Speaker 6 (24:15):
Oh okay, don't give me on that we heard last
time we talked about that.

Speaker 9 (24:19):
I wasn't watching it during then, so it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Oh. I do like season two just because Jennifer Coolidge's.

Speaker 5 (24:26):
My There's only two seasons, right, three? Okay, one just finished.
All right, let's take a break. We'll be right back
and then we have just more complaining and bones and
sweet whole thing.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
So far, I like it. It's been good.

Speaker 5 (24:36):
It's been very therapeutic, therapeutic.

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Speaker 7 (26:17):
The last time I saw you was in Kobra Kai
and it was just a shot from behind where you
were playing this domineering father, and you know, I immediately
just kind of pop up and be like, hey, it's
at Asner, but you know that. And then again I
was watching this by myself, so I wasn't able to
be like, hey, look at the screen.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Why not.

Speaker 8 (26:36):
Right?

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Well, now, what's the bigger issue?

Speaker 8 (26:38):
Now?

Speaker 5 (26:38):
Yeah, we're going to get and I want to know
why you were watching them by yourself.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
I didn't come here to talk to mister as about
my lonely lost not not good enough to bring back
and watch Netflix?

Speaker 4 (26:57):
But hey, does your boy be here for year?

Speaker 6 (27:16):
Now?

Speaker 4 (27:16):
Listening to Michael Valla like.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
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Speaker 4 (27:21):
Now.

Speaker 5 (27:26):
So you pay for a costco membership, Yeah, you walk
in there, you're a member. It's it's exclusive, it's remembers only, right,
And you always get accosted by the AT and T
people there, and like I'm walking by the Aten TV. Hey,
what's your uh, you know thing or whatever? You're your Yeah, yeah,

(27:46):
And I'm like, actually have you guys? Yeah, I have
my phones with at and T and uh you know,
actually my my business a uh internet is with AT
and T. Oh cool, what about uh this your home internet?
It's not a very about my area. I would love
to switch over to you guys. It's I'm having this
whole con I'm just there for some nuts. I'm not
trying to have a whole conversation with.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
This eighthem guy.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
And he goes, well, let me let me look it up.
What's your zip code? What's your address? I'm telling you
it's not available. I've already looked it up. Trust me,
I would have it already if it was available.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
So let me look.

Speaker 5 (28:16):
Oh it's not available. She just wasted a minute of
my day when I already knew, Like, first off, why
are you here? It's supposed to be a safe place.
I expect this at Walmart because I don't pay for
Walmart Plus, I Play, I pay for Costco. I don't
want ads as I'm walking in Costco. That that should
be illegal.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Oh and then that's a.

Speaker 5 (28:38):
But anyway, all right? Did you see that Tom Cruise
was in doubt? Chris Sapphire? Was that the premiere of
the Mission Impossible?

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Whatever I saw that was that that the text theater. No,
it is that North Park. Oh Okay.

Speaker 5 (28:50):
And Madison was there. Madison and the TikToker that we
had on the show, her and her husband were there.
Chris brought his brother. It was pretty cool. I just
saw it online. Nobody invited me. But would I have gone?

Speaker 8 (29:03):
No?

Speaker 5 (29:04):
I haven't seen any of the movies, and I don't
really care that much about Tom Cruise, But I uh,
where did he choose to eat in Dallas?

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Did you guys hear that?

Speaker 8 (29:11):
I know?

Speaker 2 (29:12):
So we're in deep ellum right, yeah?

Speaker 4 (29:13):
Ye.

Speaker 5 (29:14):
He ate at a barbecue place, Con Lodge, Pecon Lodge.
And I'm going to say this about Pecon Lodge my
favorite barbecue in Dallas.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Really. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (29:22):
I've been to all you know, the big ones, Lockharts,
Terry Blacks. The brisket at Pecan Lodge blows all those
ones out of the water.

Speaker 8 (29:30):
Now.

Speaker 5 (29:30):
The only thing I don't like it Pecon Lodges are
sauce is they need to reinvent the wheel on that
because it doesn't taste that great. But everything else. In fact,
I ordered it the other day. I had turkey and
pulled pork excellent. They're really good. So these the reason
why I liked them too, is because they are a
true Dallas barbecue place. They started at the farmers Market
in a little shed, and then people started talking about them.

(29:51):
They got bigger and bigger, and then they built that brick
and mortar and I was there day one when Pecan
Launch opened. There was a line wrapped around the building.
There was a news crew there. It was, it was,
It was great, credible, and I treat myself to that
barbecue all the time. And I've never had anything better
than Bacon Lodge except for once, which was a little
hole in the wall at uh In High School at
a gas station named Bubba's. And Bubba's eventually outgrew the

(30:15):
gas station, I think took over the gas station and
rebuilt it into his restaurant. And then the guy just
disappeared one day. I think he went to Florida and
started some new stuff down there. Last I heard. But
it was the best brisk I've ever had. And this
I've searched everywhere for brisket as good as Baba's, and
uh thecond Lodge is not as good, but it's a
close second. And uh so I think Tom made a

(30:35):
good choice there. Lodge is the best I have never
been there. Oh no, I don't think so. But they're good,
have you. But every time I bring up a con lodge,
everyone's like, oh no, it sound as good as this place.
So this place it is, it's it's better, it's you know,
Terry Black's is great, but it's not that good.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
It's expensive.

Speaker 5 (30:53):
I expect that at a barbecue place, you know what
I mean, So like the price doesn't matter to me.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
I care about the flavor.

Speaker 5 (30:58):
And if you're brisket, if I got to put sauce
on the brisket, then it's not that good.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
And I could.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
I don't put any sauce on anything from uh what
do I call pecan latch? So also I'm sensitive to
barbecue sauce, so I shouldn't even before release stuff anyway.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, I am two now I never used to.

Speaker 5 (31:15):
Well, I took a food sensitivity test test. I haven't
changed any eating habits whatsoever. But like anything with tomatoes
in it, dairy already knew. I was like this tolerant strawberries, eggs.
So it caused information, right, I'm assuming, So yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
You know what all the sensitivity means?

Speaker 5 (31:31):
No, I mean I would I would assume that's what
it is.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
I know I'm not allergic necessarily, but I would if
you're sensitive, you should still also kind of be allergic, right, I.

Speaker 6 (31:39):
Don't think so. So whenever you ate these things before
you had the test done, did you have any reactions
to it?

Speaker 4 (31:47):
Like?

Speaker 5 (31:49):
No, No, I mean not that I noticed.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
I just don't.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
So.

Speaker 5 (31:52):
Hey, I've never really enjoyed eggs. I've known that so
as a kid. Okay, I don't think I maybe feel
bad or anything, but I never really enjoyed it. And
there's certain things on the list that I'm like, oh,
maybe that makes sense because I've never really liked that.
I don't like sauce. I don't like this, I don't
like that. I don't mushrooms, never like mushrooms. I'm highly
reactive to mushrooms. But as I'm getting older, I feel

(32:13):
like I keep eating these things, and now I feel
like it's I'm getting inflamed, if that makes sense. And
so now instead of changing my diet and getting better,
I just eat, you know, more of it. So I'm
trying to do better at like on certain days, to
not eat that kind of stuff. That's why I ordered
the turkey and pulled pork from the con Lodes the
other day. Because red meat, I'm mildly reactive to it,

(32:36):
so I try to not eat that as much. But fish, pork, turkey,
I can eat that no problem. So I ordered that,
and they don't have any sauce on it or anything.
You have to put it on yourself. So I just
ate it and it was good. It's a high protein,
and so I'm also I'm trying to do like a
carnivore diet, but also keeping my sensitivities at bay. That's
what I'm trying to do. I don't know a day one,
it was two days ago. I already messed up today.

(32:58):
I had eggs this morning.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
But you don't like eggs, you said.

Speaker 5 (33:01):
Yeah, well it was the salmon was in the eggs,
and that's why I went to the salmon. So but yeah,
what do you think about the Last of Us too?

Speaker 2 (33:09):
You enjoyed it. I haven't even went past episode two.

Speaker 5 (33:12):
Okay, that's kind of how I mean. I'm I'm not
caught up either, but I'm not that far behind it.
It's more like a chore to watch it. I'm not
that excited about it. I don't know why the game
itself wasn't that good the second one. But I think now,
like the casting decisions, I feel like are even words.
You know what I'm talking Do you watch it, Katherine?

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (33:32):
Okay, Like the are we talking about the monumental pivotal
moment that I keep seeing all over the internet.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
I've never watched. I've never watched one.

Speaker 5 (33:40):
No, there's a it's just casting in general now. So
like the girl that plays Ellie, the main girl is
Bella Ramsey from Not a Girl. No, I'm talking about
the character as a girl, but she's not a girl,
right right?

Speaker 2 (33:52):
They are not. They get out of here, get out,
you said she? I'm such the no you said it?
So he When did I become the progressive on the show?

Speaker 5 (34:02):
Once you saw the tariffs, once you saw everything start
getting expensive. But so Bella is not like it worked
kind of for season one everyone was like, let's give
Bella a chance. Season two, it's like an eight year
old playing like a you know, an eighteen year old.
It doesn't really work. The girl Abby in the game

(34:27):
is like kind of like Batman.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
Right.

Speaker 5 (34:28):
So Joel, the main guy in the story, kills her
father in the end of the first game and so
she's like valid revenge, and so she starts working out
and Abby's jacked in the game, and now they got
this little ninety pound petite girl being Abby in the
in the TV show, which I mean, it's not that
big of a deal, but then I'm reading other people's
comments and there's like girls who are like naturally bigger,

(34:49):
and they're like, that was a way for us to showcase,
you know, like a r that there's more than just
one body type, and so this was a chance for
them to show that this athletic body type or whatever. Uh,
And so they don't even have that. And then when
she's so spoiler alert, the Abbey Girl kills Joel and
I felt like Joel could have just got up and

(35:10):
this one because the girl's so tiny and she's like
punching him and thing. Thing in the game though, Abby's
this is what she's trained for. This is like again
Batman her you know, Batman's parents got killed. He trained
this whole ten years or whatever to go and defeat
the evil, and that's what Abby's doing and it shows.
And so the the physique shows her work and her rage,

(35:32):
and it's like a you know whatever. So those kind
of things they've changed and just little story things, like
they made Ellie kind of dumb and so at the
end of the day, I watched it because I enjoyed
the game and it were reminiscent of the game, like
playing through it. But I'm not that excited to watch it,
and there's so many time to watch. I'm like, boy,
this could have been a better if they just cast
another person as Ellie or they cast it a you know,

(35:53):
they did Abby how she's supposed to be, Maybe it
would have been better. Uh, they didn't change this storyline
in and change this, it would have been better. So
and it's already like over now, it's like seven episodes. Yeah,
so what do you think about it?

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Catherine? Did you play the video game? Are you a gamer?
Kind of?

Speaker 9 (36:09):
I mean I did play the video game, and I
really liked the video game.

Speaker 8 (36:13):
But I agree they made Ellie in the show extremely
like immature.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Yeah, which is not cool?

Speaker 8 (36:22):
Not cool? It all right, in the game, She's she's
so cool. Honestly, I'm one of my favorite characters period
in anything.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (36:32):
So it's a shame to watch, truly.

Speaker 5 (36:34):
Yeah, I'm I'm just not excited about it. How about
Eric should be watching this pee wee himself. I haven't
watched it yet, Okay, I'm fifteen minutes in. My spoiler
he's gay.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
That's been everywhere.

Speaker 5 (36:47):
Yeah, yeah, they hint at it a lot, and then
he's just like, uh, he stopped being gay for a
little bit for show biz for a little bit, and
uh really but uh well, I mean I would have thought,
I mean, yeah, I mean I.

Speaker 6 (37:00):
Think it was given, but it was ever mean, it
was ever said. I think it was given, but I
think he did a really good job of like.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
Not letting that out. I feel like within his career,
yeah I did. I mean I didn't know that. The
only I mean, the only thing we knew was the
whole adult theater yeahing.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (37:19):
Now I'm wondering what movie was he watching. That's what
I got to figure out the whole time.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
I am.

Speaker 5 (37:24):
You know, as a growing up, you think that he's
watching just a regular like you know, porno at or
sexual porno.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
And now I'm like, well, what was he watching? Right?

Speaker 5 (37:33):
Was it a gay adult theater? I haven't got that
part yet.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know either.
I mean, I don't know if he'll talk about it
or not, but I do like should That's why I'm watching.

Speaker 6 (37:42):
But I but I do like the fact that he
I mean, this is not I don't know if thing's
part of that. I mean, maybe he'll talk about the documentary,
but I know I found this out.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
I forgot how I found this out.

Speaker 6 (37:52):
But I like the fact that when that happened, and
his mug shot right with the long hair and the
goatee and like everything. Whenever he was approached to play
a vampire in Buffy the Vampire Movie, they asked him, well,
can you play a vampire? And then he was like, yes,
but only one condition. I want my vampire to look

(38:13):
exactly how much of my mug shot. And so if
you go watch that movie his part in there, he
looks exactly like his mug shot playing the vampire character.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Yeah, And I was like, oh my god, how awesome.

Speaker 8 (38:24):
Is that is?

Speaker 2 (38:24):
He did that?

Speaker 5 (38:26):
Such a creative guy, a great artist. I mean again,
I'm only fifteen minutes in and we're only like, he
hasn't even really started anything yet, but you know, really
into like just art in general, and comedy. I don't
even know if comedy really was his thing. In the beginning,
but he was in the drag and he was in
all this stuff, like he was just exploring everything and
just a really creative individual. I wish you know, I'm

(38:48):
still upset with him from making us wait to get
his autograph.

Speaker 6 (38:53):
I mean, if anything, I mean, if you look back
more of his story, just like the early days or whatever,
of how many like you know, his his like creative
training and everything. I mean, he had so many characters
in his pocket. Yeah right, I forgot how many. I
think it was like I don't know those eighty or
I know it's fifty plus characters. And then how he
maneuvered I think, yeah, his acting, his like acting character,

(39:17):
especially in that time period like in the seventies and
sixties and all that, Like how could you break into
the business right right? And then for him to do
that with Pee wee and become like a household name yep,
with no Internet and all that back then, that's I
mean incredible. Yeah, I mean I don't know how anybody
would do it now without the Internet. But how he

(39:40):
would go on like the what do you call it
the dating game as like these characters and get cast
as that character to on the out of dating gam
thinking people are thinking.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Oh, this is a real person, yeah, and it's not.
It's him playing a character.

Speaker 8 (39:51):
Right.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
He loved that. Talks about this in the beginning.

Speaker 5 (39:54):
It's like he loved the I forgot what the word is,
but you know, basically a living character or you know
these characters that you're not sure are real or not,
you know those kind of things. There's a word for it.
But he loved that, and so that's what that's all.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
You know.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
A lot of his characters were created like that. I
really enjoy it.

Speaker 5 (40:12):
Probably not gonna have It's like two parts, and both
parts of like an hour and a half long time.
So I have a random trip for no reason to
San Antonio this week for three hours.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
So I'm going to watch that. Oh yeah, I'm gonna
watch it. I e if find I was.

Speaker 6 (40:25):
I haven't been in the best headspace, but I feel
like I am now and then I want to be
able to sit down and really ingest like the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
I think you're really gonna love it. Oh yeah, it's good.

Speaker 5 (40:34):
It reminds me of somebody that would be in your crowd, really,
you know, like somebody that it reminds me a lot
of you in some ways, and a lot of Chris
and a lot of you know, random characters, Like a
lot of them just kind of merged in the one.

Speaker 6 (40:46):
Yeah it's it's Chris sent me the video you did
to the little clip it the little trailer thing. It
was just so magical for me to watch that. I
mean just everything about that, I mean just radiates to
who he was, right yeah, and just how everybody just
loved him. But it was funny because Chris said it
to me, and then when we're talking and then I'm

(41:06):
doing what I am now it's like I'm giving his bio,
you know, a biography about what he did in his
early career too, like all the way up to him,
like passing and everything. And I was writing back and
forth with Chris about all of these little informational tidbits
or whatever, and I was like, I'm sorry, I can
talk about like all day, right, so, but like let's
just leave it at that. I won't talk about it anymore. Ah,

(41:29):
you're even more after watching this, right exactly. It's really yeah,
it's really good. I'm I think that you'll love it.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
All right.

Speaker 5 (41:37):
I have a very big treat for you guys, I'm
very excited to show this. So, you know, it's the
fortieth anniversary of Back to the Future. Clark and I
will be heading to the Dallas Fan Expo to uh
next week because the cast of Back to the Future
will be here and uh, we're gonna be doing.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Forty years for forty dollars one dollar per year.

Speaker 5 (41:59):
Yeah, so oh, it's gonna be a game that we'll do.
We'll put out the video at some point, I'm sure,
But I don't even know when the movie came out.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Do you remember?

Speaker 5 (42:06):
Was it a summer movie fall movie, Back to the Future. Yeah,
I'm pretty sure it was the summer, like late late summer. No,
I think it was like June July here, I think
it was actually, let's look it up, July third, July third, okay,
so summer. So yeah, forty years of So anyway, I
wanted to interview somebody from Back to the Future and
talk about their you know, kind of highlight their appearance

(42:28):
here in Dallas, and we sent out a couple of
Now we already had Chris Filloyd on the show, Michael J.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
Fox.

Speaker 5 (42:33):
We didn't send this to because first I would feel
bad because I feel like, you know, he's very busy,
he's got his foundation. I would feel bad if he
even give us ten minutes because I'm like, should you
be raising money or something right now for people with partisans?

Speaker 2 (42:46):
You know, go do that.

Speaker 5 (42:47):
That's more important than talking to us nut jobs out here.
And then Tom Wilson I think we reached out to
I'm not sure Wilson. He's Biff I think, yeah, yeah, yeah,
you're right. Thompson was going to do it, I think,
and then uh dropped out because she's got it. She
can't do the convention after Who's Billy Zane?

Speaker 2 (43:10):
He was one of the he's one of the bit's
friends like in the.

Speaker 5 (43:15):
Oh really, So it's not that it wasn't any one
of these four, but we did book somebody, so we
uh had it on the calendar. It's it was a
big character small part. Yeah, yeah, not going to mention
the name, yeah, or who it is if you figured
out congratulations you win forty bucks. Yeah no, no, that's
too much. So we had a date booked. Now, I

(43:37):
just want to preference how busy I've been in the
past three weeks or so, everything from you know, seven
o'clock in the morning to one or two o'clock at night.
I am booked. I've been dealing with a lot of stuff.
My car AC went out two weeks ago. I had
to spend fifteen hundred dollars on that brew making my
my cold brew making. I'd just spend five hundred dollars

(43:59):
a night rider car because something happened to that to
get that fixed. Then, as I'm dealing with a situation
that somebody put us in because of a stupid fing decision,
my AC in the house goes out. Oh so now
I got to find AC guy. But none of the
AC companies want to touch it because it's an old system.
So now I got to go find a handyman already
got it.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
That's fixed.

Speaker 5 (44:20):
I did all this remotely because I was up here
most of the time fixing a problem. I got to
hiring people. I'm doing this. It's been a crazy deal.
So when we get this approved, I block an hour
out of my calendar, and that hour is very important.
I could do in a lot of things in that hour,
but I dedicated that hour to this person. And now
the interview is supposed to be fifteen twenty minutes. That's fine,

(44:42):
you know, I have an hour just in case they're
late or there's a technical issue or whatever. But I
got a lot of things to do, very busy. So
I but I get dressed up in my Martin McFly
outfit from the output I bought at the Universe Studios
affect us back there, Catherin, would you mind bringing me
that minus to hat? Yeah, I never I emailed everybody,

(45:03):
text everybody that I could. If you go to the thing,
could thank you so much. So I was wearing this outfit,
this outfit here with the Martin mcche it.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Looked like it was like on one of those like
plastic bodies underneath because it was so stick. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (45:16):
By the way, this is the other thing when it
it really grinds my gears.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
I put.

Speaker 5 (45:19):
I took this off out of the closet. Now I
put it once we got it, it went in a
bag one of the suitcakes got home, put it in
the closet. Haven't touched it since I pull it out.
There's a marker, which probably happened during checkout. So I'm like,
this pissed me off, But now I thought about it.
I think you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna have
Michael J.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Fox let me. Let me see that. Let me see that.
Oh you know what that mark looks like? What looks
like a semicoleon.

Speaker 5 (45:41):
No, that's a comma. See that's the problem. Now we
figured it out. But I'm gonna have Michael J. Fox
sign it and then I'm gonna have It's gonna cost
like four hundred dollars, but I'm gonna have him sign
it for charity. Right It's going to Michael J. Fox
Fandash Foundation, So I don't have a problem with it.
And I'm gonna get a shadow box. I'm gonna put
it up little where in the studio. I think that'll that'll,
you know, take care of that issue right there. So anyway,

(46:03):
I'm dressed up in this outfit waiting for this person
to show up. They don't show up, so we send
an email, Hey, are you still coming? Do you want
to are you having trouble logging in? Do you want
to reschedule for the next hour? Let me know so
I can rearrange my schedule because I'm very busy. I
guarantee you I'm a lot busier than this person. No

(46:25):
response on any of the emails we sent, none, So
I thought, okay, maybe there I knew this person was
going to be traveling, so maybe they're in the air.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Whatever.

Speaker 5 (46:36):
I'll probably get an email tonight or in the morning.
Oh my gosh, so sorry this happened. Whatever, we can
reschedule it. If we don't, I'm expecting to email. So sorry,
blah blah blah blah blah, no response, completely ghost. Meanwhile,
we have been in direct contact with this person via email,
like they're a manager. Put us in charge of just
coordinating linked phone numbers. All that's the times, time zones,

(46:59):
all that, and so we've done all that. Now this
person is completely ghost to us. Right, So two days
later we email the manager, Hey, it looks like they
might have forgot about this or something. Oh, oh my gosh.
They send their apologies. They're so sorry, they slept, they
were jet lagged. Okay, so why couldn't they reply to
a quickly email like, Hey, so sorry, I didn't make

(47:21):
it whatever.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Why did I get an apology? Is what I want
to know.

Speaker 5 (47:24):
No big deal, it happens. Let's reschedule. So we reschedule
to another date. I block off another hour on my calendar.
I'm up here dressed again, right, I go in this studio, right, here,
I get dressed, I come out, go over my lines.
I'm sitting here my notes, I.

Speaker 8 (47:39):
Mean, and.

Speaker 5 (47:42):
Maybe thirty minutes before the interview, I get an email
from the manager. They got to reschedule because the person's sick.
No big deal, that happens. But did you just find
out they were sick thirty minutes ago? Or could you
have told me that this morning? Did you wake up sick,
because that would have been that would have been nice
to if you just told me. Hey, I can't do
I'm not gonna say, all right, I'll tell you off

(48:03):
air because he was in because he was in back
the future. Yeah, he was either in the music and everything,
and he's also coming to town.

Speaker 4 (48:08):
Yeah he is.

Speaker 5 (48:10):
So i'll tell you off air, all right. So then
we reschedule again for yesterday. It couldn't be him yesterday.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
It couldn't be him.

Speaker 5 (48:18):
So I third times the charm, right, there's no way
third times the charm. I'm gonna show you what happened
on this video that happened yesterday.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
I recorded the whole thing. Wow, I don't understand how

(49:01):
it's any different.

Speaker 5 (49:25):
So goes to get again, no email, No, hey, they
forgot nothing. So you know what, they can go back
to a relevancy. Donna, don't waste my effing time. Yeah,
and and then and then waste my time and then
not apologize for it.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yeah, why did they even accept it? Them?

Speaker 5 (49:46):
Again with right, If you couldn't do it, you know
you're not responsible enough to do whatever. And by the way,
you're grown adult. You're grown adult. Have a calendar. You
got effing phone in your hand, put it in there.
That really pissed off that we si three hours in
the past two weeks when I could have been doing
a lot of other things.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (50:04):
And so anyway, we don't have that and throw out
our whole schedule. Like last week we did the best of.
The best of was not supposed to happen last week.
We was spposed to go out next week, and last
week was supposed to be that interview. So I did
a pretty good job. I don't even I didn't even
mention he she nothing. But I'll tell you I'd be glad.
I'm happy to tell you, but that person when I
get any of my attention or my money or anything

(50:26):
when they come to Dallas next weekend or the fan expo.
But I tell you who will get all my money
Michael J. Fox, because I'm going to have him sign that.
I'm gonna have him give me an eight by ten,
which is another gonna be another two hundred dollars. He's
very expensive, and I think the reason why he's expensive
because if they were making it cheap everyone, it's probably
hard from the sign number one, and they just don't

(50:46):
want everyone coming in. And also I imagine a lot
of that, if not most of it will go to
the Michael J. Fox Foundation.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
So I'm all for that. And I just love Michael J.

Speaker 5 (50:58):
Fox has been around my whole life, a big packed
and voiced and acting a lot of characters I love.
So I gotta get it. I never thought I would
ever have an opportunity to get mine. Takes Fox's autograph,
so might as well. Loo's gonna be well worth the money.
And then we'll have the best stone around here in
the studio. All right, we'll do two poles. We'll get
out of here. Anything, Oh Clark, you were gonna mention something,
we'll do that after the poles. All right, Well, in

(51:19):
with it, Catherine, you got anything before we roll.

Speaker 9 (51:22):
Out, I'm still emotional from your piece.

Speaker 5 (51:25):
You just I know it's very I call it back
to I don't know, I don't have a name before it.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Yet, back to the little act of mutual respect be
the way.

Speaker 4 (51:34):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (51:35):
So meanwhile, you know I didn't show up wearing that outfit.
That ouphan has been here for two weeks. I go
in there, I have to get dressed. I gotta do,
you know, the whole thing, in the middle of everything
else I'm doing. I gotta go get dressed, get ready
for it, get all my stuff up. And I just
had a feeling this person was not going to show.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
And then they do that.

Speaker 5 (51:50):
I mean, even Jane's remar remar right, send us an email.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
I always think about that interview.

Speaker 5 (51:56):
Yeah, even even how terrible that thing ended up. He
sends an email like, Hey, so sorry, blah blah blah
blah blah, let's do it another time. We have never
done it, probably never will. But nothing can beat that
in Yeah, nothing, it was. It's always going to be
the best, all right, pull number one. Are you excited
about the new Superman movie?

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Yes? I can't wait. No, maybe when it gets closer. No, no,
when it goes closer. Uh, Catherine, what do you think?

Speaker 9 (52:21):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (52:23):
No, Hey, seventy one percent. Yes, can't wait. Wow, I'm
excited for it. I mean it's I don't know if
I'm going to see it in theaters, I might go
wait till it comes out on DVD or something, buy
it or digital, and I'll buy DVDs. What is the
most you will pay for GTA six sixty, one hundred,
one fifty or two hundred plus.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
I mean everybody's got to say sixty two plus.

Speaker 5 (52:50):
Catherine say yeah, two hundred fifty sixty dollars.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Yeah, everybody, they're going to go in the old price.

Speaker 5 (52:57):
Everyone was uh beating us up because we talked to
about how we would pay you know, at least one
hundred dollars for whatever whatever, and you know GTA isn't
that great. People were saying, but you know they're going
to buy it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, every single person that's
complaining about the pre you're gonna buy it.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Oh I'm buying the special edition. Yeah yeah, you were, but.

Speaker 5 (53:13):
They're talking about they were We said that, and people
are like, I can't believe that not everyone else is
getting in fact, if you don't like the game, because
they're worried about like every other developer and publisher out
there is going to raise price on the games and
guess what they might Oh, they're going to but matter it,
matter if GTA happens or not, they're going to do
it because stuff is getting more expensive, and uh, if
you don't like it, don't buy it, or wait till

(53:33):
it goes on sale.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
But I'm buying a Day one.

Speaker 7 (53:36):
Yeah, well I want to buy the special Edition and
I want to unbox it here. Okay, Yeah, you're just
kind of like because I mean, it's going to be,
you know, something that's ostentatious and big and you know,
and I'm going to get the strategy guide just because
I want to do all the stunt jumps.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
You're trying to platinum it. I've never platinum a GTA
game ever.

Speaker 5 (53:57):
You can do I'll read that tech a little bit.
But so you could do Red Dad, you could do
like the earlier games, like get the Definitive Edition. In fact,
they may come out with a GTA you know, the
fourth one. They might do a remaster this year. That's
the rumor of GTA four.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
Yeah, so you might. Wasn't I like that one? My favorite? Actually,
the Ballad of Gay Tony was the best one.

Speaker 5 (54:18):
I haven't played it yet of that one. Yeah, I
haven't played any of the scd's. I'm trying to play
all the story modes of all of them. I'm gonna
go back and do I'm excited to do that.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
That's the best.

Speaker 7 (54:26):
That's like the best expansion of like a single player
on Grand Theft Auto without a doubt.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
All right, what were you gonna say?

Speaker 6 (54:36):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (54:36):
Okay, so I just wanted to kind of I kind
of wanted to bring something to the Court of MZ. Now, Okay,
see if we could get like just some opinions here.
I guess it's like a poll. But I keep seeing
advertisements for a film, and I guess it's just like
pissing me off, just like everything is pissed people off here.
But it's it's for the Phoenician scheme. Now, do you

(54:58):
know what that is?

Speaker 2 (54:59):
No, that is the knew Wes Anderson film.

Speaker 8 (55:02):
Who was it?

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Wes Anderson? You don't know who? Let me think of
some movies. Fantastic mister Fox. Was that a Wes Anderson film?
I never saw?

Speaker 5 (55:12):
What was it?

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Well? Number one number knows that the number one movie
has to be Royal Tenebaumbs never seen it that was
the only one.

Speaker 5 (55:23):
I mean, Asteroid City, Fantastical, Fantastic, Mister fot.

Speaker 7 (55:28):
Zoo, Asteroid City, Yeah, Moonrise, Kingdom, Rushmore, and Battle Rocket,
all these films. Now, Battle Rocket I think is a
little bit different, just because it's his first film. I
thought Rushmore was a little bit contrived. I thought Royal
Tenemoms was really good. But every preview for every Wes

(55:51):
Anderson movie is the same.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
And the thing is, it's because every Wes Anderson movie
is the same stoic expressions. Characters lack emotional depth, characters
have already established like character arcs that you just go with.

Speaker 7 (56:10):
Everybody's quirky, nobody's really I don't know, serious. But the
whole thing is, I get tired of the whole stoic
expression that everybody has in the whole movie, and it
just kind of think, I kind of think it's lazy writing,
lazy acting where people are just like, oh, this is
a great movie because it's quirky, and I'm here to
say I'm over it, tired of it, Like branch out,

(56:34):
do something, Try a different shot of cinematography.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
You know, anyone has any rebuttles.

Speaker 5 (56:40):
I think that Yeah, I think it's just it's a
certain it's for His movies are for a type. Like
my brother loves Wes Anderson, but he loves that type
of movie. So it's like if you like your if
you like strawberry ice cream, you know, you're just gonna
like strawberry ice cream.

Speaker 7 (56:57):
And I'm not saying that like other filmmakers don't fall
victim to it. I mean, Michael Mann is famous for it.
Pretty much every Michael Man movies almost the same, Michael Bay, Michael.

Speaker 5 (57:06):
Everyone has their own style and you like that person
almost like who's the other guy?

Speaker 8 (57:10):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Kill Bill?

Speaker 5 (57:12):
Oh he's got his own style too, But I think
and you like that and you go with you watch
every movie they do. But Aj, he's got the little
lens flair.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
Yeah true.

Speaker 5 (57:21):
Uh even Nolan, Yeah, he's got his really long, drawn
out you gotta watch it five times you understand what's
going on movie.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
But did Spilberg have that.

Speaker 5 (57:30):
No.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Spilberg, I think was making it more for the you
knows it.

Speaker 5 (57:34):
But they're not making movies or masses anymore really unless
it's an Avengers.

Speaker 7 (57:38):
Uh well, I mean they're superhero game. Certainly a difference
between Star Wars and Indiana Jones. Right, but this makes
certainly a difference between E. T. And but it's made
for everybody, uh close Encounters of the Third. These guys
are artistic. Yeah, I want to put my flavor on it,
and only I know certain people are going to watch it,
but the whole But I guess, I guess Wes Anderson
is not going to go eat at Lockhart's or or

(57:59):
pecon lots.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
He's from Texas. Yeah, he went to UT he went
to ut So yeah, I can I can.

Speaker 6 (58:06):
Look at these like thumbnails of these movie covers and
I can tell, Yeah, it's too artsy for a lot.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Well, it's it's it's it's it's the whole idea of
being artsy, or just the sake of being artsy. Yeah,
that movies are going to go over a lot of people's.

Speaker 7 (58:22):
Heads, right, No, it's not even that. No, no, no,
I don't even think it goes over their heads. What
I think it is is that people feel that they
are so established and so intelligent that Wes Anderson only
wrote this film for ten percent of the population, and
I'm a part of that Tim Pop ten percent popular.

Speaker 5 (58:39):
I don't know those movies are intelligent. I think they're
just like no, no, no, mister Fox. I've seen a
bunch of times, and I think that's just it's just
a whimsical little story.

Speaker 7 (58:49):
I think for animation it works, especially that's Ali animation, right,
it works great, But for the the same thing to
just be over and over where, it's like, okay, well,
you know, we'll take Bill, will take Bill Murray, and
we'll take him because he's quirky and he's kind of
weird and everything, and we'll put him in there. But
just make him stoic, which is not Bill Murray, right,

(59:10):
like Tom Hanks is in this new one. I've never
seen Tom Hanks like act stoically, but he's doing it
in this movie along with Brian Cranston, along with Benicio
del Toro. Yeah, I mean, like I said, same delivery.
Everybody has the same facial tone, whether it's a serious part,
they're the villain or they're in distress, same serious, just

(59:32):
monotone kind of navigation set against a very very wonderful
backdrop driven by cinematography. But like you take those two
elements out of it, like it's just I think lazy acting,
writing and shooting.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
Disguise his art. That's their way to end it.

Speaker 6 (59:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well I went to the acting out
of it because the actors are only going to go
off with what the direction.

Speaker 4 (59:57):
Right right?

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Yeah, true. But the whole thing is if everybody doing
the same deal, there's no like the whole How does
everybody in the movie not have range? Well because they're
told not to, but that's it's the director.

Speaker 7 (01:00:10):
Then this goes back to my whole idea. It's a writing,
it's a direct art for the sake of being art,
and that's a not entertainment, not even not even good art.
It's just art for the sake of being art.

Speaker 5 (01:00:20):
I have no dog in this fight because I've seen
only one of his films, I think so. But I
like the art like a lot of people also like
the aesthetics of it, so it may not even be
like some people like Zack Snyder is more of an
aesthetic person, not a writer. There's no meat and potatoes there,
so it's way too complex, you know what the look, Yeah,
that's what I think about Zack Snyder. Be just a

(01:00:41):
director of photography, Be a DP. That's what we call
it the business. Go be a make a make a
documentary nature, right, don't have to do movie, but hey,
someone's paying them, and obviously there's not as well that
there continue to make the movie. So it's just at
the end of the day, what kids would tell you today,
it's a not for you. It wasn't made for you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Yeah you mean this, Wes Anderson, wasn't made for me,
a guy who started making movies in nineteen ninety six.

Speaker 5 (01:01:08):
Yeah, it's not for you, even though you grew up,
even though you're supposed to you grew up with all
that whole time and all that. Sure, it wasn't for you.
It's for the other eight year old, all right. But
I get, I mean, I get I'm just playing Devil's no.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
No, no, I no, I get it. But it's just
like every time I meet somebody that is so ingrained
in the West Anderson it's the same thing.

Speaker 5 (01:01:25):
But I feel about old Rick and Morty fans like
it's not a good show. Get over it.

Speaker 7 (01:01:29):
Might actually start agreeing with you on that it just
not a good show. I might actually start agreeing with
the new league.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Well, it's probably because of the new voices. You don't
like that. No, no, no, it's not that it's not
writing a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:01:41):
I think it's lazy writing, sloppy comedy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
I don't think lazy voiceover lazy voiceover.

Speaker 5 (01:01:47):
And here's why I say it, because all of it
just ripped from plots of other movies, and people like
you don't understand, Like people who have never seen sci
fi before watch Rick and Morty because they're little, you know, yeah, uh,
they're watching it and they're like, you just don't understand, bitch,
I'll stay in.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
The movie that it came off.

Speaker 7 (01:02:00):
Well, No, I think there's a lot of people that
watch the Rick and Morty and they're like, oh man,
that's so funny, but they don't understand what it's referencing. Yeah, which, now, no,
there's part of there's definitely like two kinds of Ca
Morty fans. One that look at stuff and they're like, wow,
that's funny, because I think it's funny from the whole,
from the whole perspective of I recognize funny and this

(01:02:22):
is funny, and that's why I'm laughing because I'm dumb.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
And then there's the other one that're like, yeah, I
get that reference because I watched that show in nineteen
eighty seven and I know what he's talking about.

Speaker 5 (01:02:31):
Yeah, I just it's trash TV. It's trash TV. Most
adult animation is trash TV, though, I.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Mean I would in this day and age. Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (01:02:40):
Yeah, there's some good ones out there, but a lot
of it, a lot of that's really saturated. And then
everyone copies the animation style. We got to make it
lazy drawing, like we're like, we're drawing on a your
school desk. Well, it's that's the art style. It's you
start out the first season, the first two seasons have
to have that raw look to it, and then you
have like the Shadow and the other ones. Yeah, a

(01:03:00):
little a little highlighted.

Speaker 7 (01:03:01):
The Simpsons did it, Family Guy did it? Yeah, heck,
I mean like anytime they make them a family uh sorry,
family dad, American Dad did it?

Speaker 5 (01:03:11):
Yeah, especially when they're doing like a movie, Uh huh.
Anything else where we go, anything any other rants but
the Rant show.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
What's Up with the City Adallas?

Speaker 5 (01:03:20):
Next week, we are We're filming a lot of stuff
next week. Yeah, Clark and I are going to be
very busy, especially next week, and we're shooting something. The
Tesla Bot is returning in a new format. I'm pretty
excited about that. Katain, I'll get another a we got
a new AI for it. Yeah, Tesla Bot's gonna be here.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Clark m hmm. Maybe finds love. Maybe, so we'll see what. Maybe.
We'll see you guys in a couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
This is m z now online at mz now dot tv,
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

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