October 6, 2025 • 56 mins
Pour up a Winchester Red and join McCash as he relives the start of the Three Flavours Cornetto trilogy alongside Brandon and Stoney. Today, we're drinking with...Shaun of the Dead.
To make the Winchester Red, you'll need:
To make the Winchester Red, you'll need:
- 1.5 oz spiced rum
- 1 oz cherry liqueur
- 0.5 oz sweet vermouth
- Splash of cranberry juice
- Dash of Angostura bitters
- Garnish: maraschino cherry and orange twist
- Optional: rim the glass with red sugar or crushed candy
- Fill a cocktail shaker with ice.
- Add the spiced rum, cherry liqueur, sweet vermouth, cranberry juice, and bitters.
- Shake well and strain into a chilled rocks glass or lowball glass over fresh ice.
- Garnish with a maraschino cherry and an orange twist.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
The Sobros Network presents the Movie podcast, breaking down films
and their impact on pop culture as they approach the
legal drinking age. This is Drinking With now Here's your host,
Steven m cash.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Welcome to a spooky season, everybody, and an all new
episode of Drinking With the Podcast where we raise the
glass of the movies that have reached the legal drinking age.
I'm your host, Steph mccash or the Sobros Network, and
join me as we embark on a cinematic journey to
the classics of yesteryear, celebrating their twenty first birthdays in style.
From iconic blockbusters to hitting gems, Each episode will toast
(00:54):
to a different film that has stood the test of
time and shaped our cultural landscape. So grab your favorite
beverage or the one we have curated for this episode,
and let's dive deep into the nostalgia as we explore
movies that are finally old enough to drink. Join us
for a drink at the bar, and joining me at
the bar as always, are the two best people I
can think of to stumble out of the bar after
a long discussion of films versus the resident film critic
(01:17):
of the Sobros Network Brandon Vick, who's also a member
of the Southeastern Film Critics Association, a board member of
the Music City Films Critics Association, and most importantly the
birth giver of the vix Flicks and the Cinema Chronicles
podcast that you can hear wherever you get your podcasts
from and joining him as always is the man behind
the brains here at Sobros Network, the eic, the glue
(01:39):
of the brand. A Jim Fishinado, all around cat lover
and football wordsmiths. Mister Stony Keeley, gentleman, Spooky Season is here.
How are we doing today?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Loving it? I love the film that we're going to
talk about today. I think it's a different, different kind
of spooky season, which I like a little variety every
now and then. But this is the time of year
where I start curating those films, the classics, the ones
that I watch every year, and I start lining it up.
Open up the windows, let a breeze blow through, throw
(02:14):
some chili in the crock pot, and watch a scary movie.
Can't beat it. You can't beat it.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
No, I was just telling I was just telling Stony
about I don't know. I don't know the date, but
there is a one week event where one of my
favorites of Spooky season, Para Norman, is coming back in
three D, and I really want to check that out
because that is one of my go tos in October.
(02:44):
Absolutely that in the Passion of the Christ. It's scary.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I'm still waiting on that sequel.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Yeah, oh it's coming, don't you worry.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I will say this is a film that it's in
my It's in high regard as far as comedy hard.
It's one of the i'd say top two or three
that's ever been made. And it's routinely uh on a
TV near me at some point during Spooky season without
a doubt.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yeah, I'm I'm with it.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
I yes, I don't watch it every Spooky season, but
I do. I do like it.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I have it in the collection, and I just what
I have is like my collection for October. And sometimes
some years I'll pull it out, some years I won't.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
I think a nice double feature would be this and
uh and in the Apocalypse.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Oh okay, now you had me at an in the
Apocalypse right there. You know that's what that's a that's one.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
I know you do. And my wife. My wife loves
it too, and I actually enjoy it more than I
thought I would. But yeah, that's I think it's a
nice double feature.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I still haven't seen that.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Well, it's a musical, so I don't expect you to
ever see it, right, Yeah, yeah, but I would add
in uh, Tucker, Tucker and Dale versus Evil would be
my my my triple shot when it comes to hell
you are, but we are talking about Shawn of the
Dead and simply put, what could possibly go wrong when
you're a directionalist slacker Britt who is trying to win
(04:10):
back your ex and reconcile with your mother at the
same time. For Sean, it's zombies. Zombies is what could
go wrong? And boy does it go wrong. Shawan the
Dead is directed by I think one of the world's
finest directors right now, Edgar Wright, who also did Baby Driver,
Last Night in Soho and one of my all time
(04:32):
favorite documentaries, The Sparks Brothers. He also co wrote the
film with its star Simon Pegg and this became part
of a trilogy as we all know. And the film
is starring Simon Peg as I just mentioned, who plays Sean,
who we obviously know from the Mission Impossible franchise, Paul,
(04:53):
the Alien comedy Paul, and my favorite David Schwimmer directed
film Run, Fat Boy Run David Schwimmer.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
I forgot he did that.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I love that movie, also co starring his real life
best friend Nick Frost as Ed, who was also in
Paul and can be seen in the live action How
to Train Your Dragon.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
How about that?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
And he's essentially the real two stars of the film.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
He's playing Hagrid in the Harry Potter Show. Really yep,
good for him, Good for him.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Only the only other member of the cast I really
wanted to to mention as somebody who's been on the
podcast before, and you can feel it in your bones.
Yeah that is Bill Nye, not the science guy who
plays Sean's stepdad Philip.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
I was so happy when I saw him.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I forgot about it too.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I love it. Yeah, So on drinking with we need
to drink, And oddly enough, this episode hasn't been derailed
early on, so I was a little surprised we got
to the drink so fast.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
But I was looking at Simon Pegg's filmography, to be
honest with you, just kind of looking at some of
his other stuff and because his name came up earlier
in the year when we talked about the Mission Impossible
franchise on the Vicks Fwigs podcast, and I just thought
good for him, But I kind of wanted to see, like, Okay,
I know he does these British comedies and there's you know,
(06:24):
Hot Fuzz and The World's End and all that stuff too,
and I knew of the Mission Impossible movies, but I
wanted to see what else he's done. He's made a
nice little career for himself.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, he hasn't done too bad. The drink that we're
making today is called the Winchester Red. You're simply just
gonna need announce and a half a spice rum announce
of a cherry liqueur, half ounce of sweet for a youth,
some cranberry juice, some bitters, some Maraschino cherries, and an
(06:53):
orange twist so optional. What you can do here is
rim the glass with red sugar or like a crushed candy,
like a red candy of some sort, like a jolly
ranch or something. You fill a cocktail shaker with ice,
add the spice around the cherry liquor, the Vermuth cranberry juice,
and bitters, uh dash of bitters and like a splice
of cranberry juice is really all you need. Shake well
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straight into a child's rock glass or a low ball
glass over fresh ice garner with the marachino cherry and
an orange twist. And there is your Winchester red.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
That sounds fantastic.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
That sounds like a liquored up fruit basket.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
It's good for this time of year. You know what
I might do? I might I might rim it with
some crushed up red hots. Oh there's things the cinnamon candy.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
How would you mind with ketchup jump like festive to
get Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Love it in the sense of like uh Nashville hot chicken.
It's said you can just rim it in like some
red hots sauce or something. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
You gotta be careful when you're rimming it.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Yeah, well that's true.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Put protection on.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah when you're when you're you know, going for a
rim job, you definitely have to be careful.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
You start firing that Winchester, you're gonna be firing something
else to that booty hole.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
There's the uh off railing that I was through the.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Drink though, through the drink, firing that Winchester booty hole.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I wanted to. I didn't want to say booty hole, but.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I what did you RPG?
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Huh, Well, I wanted to kind of come up with like, oh,
you know, the I don't know, the poop caboose or
something like that. I didn't want to just do I
didn't want to.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah, sometimes you get in those moments and it just.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Excuse me, throat.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Sometimes you get to those moments and it just doesn't
come to you quickly.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
And now the firing your Winchester into took all I
had got.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
So this is completely off subject. But I did just
listen to an episode of the Dax Shepherd podcast Armchair
Expert where they talked about forty five minutes worth of
weird things that have been found in people's bum holes,
and uh, one of them, Yeah, no, but presidential Barbie was.
(09:13):
Oh and when it was discovered, because the patient in
question denied having anything up there, but was like, somebody
could have put something up there, but I didn't. So
when the nurse examined him, there was. She said there
was two perfect little doll feats just hanging out of
his anus. Oh my god. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
But also that should be a lesson to you that
when we go off the rails, it could be way
worse and could last for way longer.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
We could end up on presidential Barbie up in tutors
for you.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah. Another one was a somebody had stuck a can
of but tane gasrect Hell. Yeah, I don't know sure
or not.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
I don't get I don't understand how that gets.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
You got how you get to the buttane gas and.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
But then by the and then you have the nerve
to go in somewhere and say nothing's up there. Yeah,
like I see two little baby dolbe. What do you
mean they did?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
They had a nurse. They had a nurse on that
told a story. And we'll move back to the podcast,
I promise, uh where a guy came in and he
was honest. He's like, look, I did a bunch of cocaine.
I had a bunch of hookers and somehow I got
something up my ass and it turned out to be
like a can of coke zero.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Oh, listen, that's a fat that's a fat cylinder.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
And so they they had an Asian nurse who was
uh was small, so she had small but strong hands.
I was able to with lubrication and such get up there.
But a suction had been caused by the by the
anus that had made it where you couldn't pull the
can out. So the doctor on hand was like, can
(11:05):
you reach the tab to the can? And she's like yeah,
She's like, let's open it. And so they open it
and here comes coke zero with micro poop and shit
just flowing everywhere.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
So it was an unopened it can.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
It's unopened.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
I think next time you should just like just open
it and then just pour the coke zero into your butt. Yeah,
that should be better. Get a nice butthole wash with
coke zero.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I bet that an ass douche.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
I bet that kind of felt good though coming out.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
You mean, like when she opened it, well yeah, probably
going in is a different story, but yeah coming out.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
With yeah, you gotta do some serious stretching. But do
you think what it was was like they were fucked
up and they were like, let's see if it must be.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Because if you're honest enough, and then you say, I'm
not sure how yeah, but it's up there. I want
to know. I mean, cocaine must be a powerful thing
to be like, you know what should don't don't even
open it, just shove it in there in case I
need it later. And I bet you it was hot too,
(12:13):
nothing more. Nothing's more disgusting than a hot coke zero,
I assure you.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Maybe your ass. Oh lord, let's get back on. Let's
talk money. So, uh, the budget for this film is
listed in pounds, not US dollars.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
We got to do a currency, yeah, man.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
So how many pounds do we think the budget was
for Sean of the Dead in two thousand and four?
Speaker 4 (12:46):
I'm going to say, what's what's what's pounds a dollar?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
That's what I'm looking up.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Now we got you can't look at today. You need
to look at what's two thousand and four?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Conversion was that's where's thousand and four and owned a dollar?
So it would have been zero point five four. But
I don't know which way is which?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
You know what? This is way too too much?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
How much was it?
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I'm gonna say seventeen eighteen.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Million Sean with the opening weekend?
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Right, No, no, this is budget?
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Okay, okay, budget, all right, you know what I'm believing.
I'm going to go I'm going to go lower. I'm
just gonna say.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Eleven eleven million and seventeen million for the budget. Yeah,
uh for four million, okay, four million pounds, which was
the equivalent of seven point twenty four million dollars in
September of four when it opened.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
To be clear, I was thinking like that probably cost
them thirty million dollars to make this movie.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yeah, but it only costs four Yeah. The film open
July thirtieth in Iceland. Bye. In the US, it didn't
open til the weekend of September twenty six. It opened
on six hundred and seventh screens, alongside The Forgotten and
First Daughter. So take that six hundred and seven into
(14:13):
your equation. What do we think opening weekend US Canada
was and US dollars as well, we're out of the
pounds for Shanda debt.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
I'm I'm gonna say I'm gonna say twelve million.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
I'm gonna say eight How about.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Three point three?
Speaker 3 (14:31):
That's surprising because I remember this movie coming out, and
I remember the previews for it, and I remember like.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
That's a very that's quite a limited release, six I
mean less than seven hundred screens. Yeah, But and you're
also thinking that no one knows, like, no one knows anybody.
It's just do you are you a horror fan?
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Well, they know that guy from love. Actually that's about
all they know.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Yeah, and I don't even know if he was shown
as much.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah. I don't think he was in the previews by
any means. Yeah, but I will say so do you You
said thirteen million for opening weekend? It's total domestic box
office was just under fourteen and a half million.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Wow, So but still four million dollar budget.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Yeah, it's an unknown cast.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Or technically seven million dollar budget.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
So yeah, but that's only but that's only in the States.
Where's Bulgaria.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Well, we'll get we won't get the book in some
other countries. I'm going to tell you the top five
that week. Charlotte Dead obviously did not make that top five,
but your top five at number five was First Daughter,
the classic Katie Holmes film.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
I don''t know. I mean I remember it.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
It's I've never seen it, but I know it exists. Yeah,
Resident Evil Apocalypse is at number four. I don't know
if that's the second or third or fourth series? Is
the second? Yeah, the Bernie mac phenomenal film, Mister three thousand,
Mister three thousand three underrated baseball film, and then the
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two top two movies that I've never seen. One I
don't remember at all, but number two A Sky Captain
in the World of Tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Oh yeah, I remember liking that at the time.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah, never saw it. And then your number one film
that I don't remember at all but forgotten.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Julian Moore. It's not very good. It's like, yeah, it's
like a somewhat of a thriller, kind of scary, psychological,
but yeah it was. I just remember being very boring.
So I Stamuel Jackson in it too.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Julian Moore for sure is in it.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Julian Moore, Alfree Woodard, Gary Sonise is in it. I
do not see Samuel's phenomenal cast.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
There is something else that he's in with her. But anyway,
but yeah, very good.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
It brought in fourteen and a half million in the
States worldwide altogether just under a little over thirty one
and a half million, get it. Your big winner is
obviously the UK, where it did eight point nine million dollars.
The Germans brought in one point one million, so you
get ten million.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Dollars for extruments.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, and then our friends in Lebanon brought in six thousand,
six hundred and forty three dollars and it's Lean Elebanon.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
I've Leon Tennessee. Yeah, thanks Watertown.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I was about to say, wow, the Malco what is
it out there? I don't remember what it is? Malco
in Lebanon, The Roxy Roxy, the Roxy doing some numbers
for Shawna the Dead back in the day.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Lastly on the box office. This is according to box
office Mojo, which is where I get all my stats
for the various countries such. It has listed Argentina's lifetime
gross for Shawna the Dad at one dollar.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
No, how does that work?
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
I don't know how much movies cost in Argentina.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
A dollar. One person went to see it and it
was a dollar if.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
They were having a dollar theater.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
One hundred people saw it.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
That's true, the old penny theaters of Argentina. He ain't
heard of them.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
No, no, I mean they're not going to cry for
you in Argentina. And they're probably not going to see
Seana the Dad either.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Especially Madonna's.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, but you know, we both the all three of
us have talked about we enjoyed this film. What do
we think the the critics on Rotten Tomatoes. Thought, I
will tell you there are two hundred and twenty one
reviews as of today on Rotten Tomatoes from the critics.
So what percentage does this film come in at.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
It's like ninety one.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Ninety one, Yeah, from the critics.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Why that's a lot of praise.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
It was a darling, it was. And remember they got
a trilogy out of this shit. I somebody liked it.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I'm gonna say eighty two.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Brandon was right there, Wow, critics.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
That I remember it being hot. Now, that may have
been over time, I'm sure as people have caught on,
because again, if people loved it from the beginning, it
wouldn't have made just three millions. So yeah, but that's
the true I feel like that's the the tricky part
is people put in this ind I mean, Rotten Tomatoes
I don't even think existed then. But the fact that
people are catching it now in the past five, ten
(19:15):
whatever years is helps it because it's I mean, i'd
say it's a horror comedy class I mean it's there.
I think it's gotten. I mean, it's made a name.
It made a name for most of these guys and
so so yeah, I know. I'll be honest, I kind
of just shot in the dark because I think probably
when it come out, I feel like if rot Tomatoes existed,
(19:37):
I could see like a seventy four, seventy six maybe, yeah,
but the fact that, like you know, it builds over,
which then makes me think if ninety I have a
feeling the audience score is lower though.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Okay, well, let's talk about that. There's two hundred and
fifty thousand plus reviews God on the popcorn meter rotten
to make. So for the tomato meter, what are the
average Joe thinking of Shannada Dead.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Seventy one.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
I'm gonna know, I'm gonna go down drop, but I'll say,
like eighty three.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
You both went in the wrong direction. It actually goes
up one percent to ninety three percent. W dang.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
That's definitely for people catching on through the.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Years universally loved more than I thought it was.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Yeah, me too, Yeah, I think high as numbers.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
I just remember buying my copy from Danger Zone Video
and I think it was Jesse. I can't remember it
was Brittany or Jesse who was in the store that
day said I hate this movie seriously. I did not
maybe that's what I'm basing.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Yeah, I didn't see that coming.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
But I do. I do have a copy of this
on DVD that I purchased from danger Zone Video here
in Mount Juliet, Tennessee, and somebody at the store told
me they hated the movie when I bought it.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
I I think it. It's a very I think it's
cleverly done, and it was very different back then, and
a lot of people have tried to kind of replicate
that to to not the to not the quality of
Shanna the Dead, I will say, and and I'm not
saying like you don't laugh, but I thought it was funnier.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I did too. I did too.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
I liked it, And a lot of the funny stuff
is sort of in sort of at the beginning and
when it first happens, like I always will remember, when
he's just walking, he's doing his routine, and the zombies
are there, but he's paying you no attention. Yeah he's
been He's like hey, I oh yeah, and you know,
he almost slips on the blood and the handprints. One
(21:49):
thing that did make me laugh that and I remember
once I saw it again, I remember. But when they
it's it's essentially even though as far as they're concerned,
it's their sort of encounter because there's a woman in
the yard and and you know how it plays it
up because they're like, oh my god, she's so drull.
So they just start laughing. Yeah, and that that that
(22:12):
makes me laugh.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah, there's some social commentary in the film where you know,
you harked on that scene where Sean goes into the
bodega or whatever and he's like, I just I'll owe you. Yeah,
the apocalypse is already hidden, but we're we're in such
zombie mode now with our cell phones and such. Like
the previous scenes, everybody's just like in as an actual
zombie state going about their day. Where Sean uh goes
(22:38):
out of his flat, he goes around the corner and
he's walking the same path that he does day in
and day out to the bodega and then to work
without any real you know, human interaction and whatnot. And
then on the bus everybody's looking at their phone, not
paying attention to anything. And it's not till the apocalypse
actually happens where he's starting to see like, oh shit,
(23:01):
something's going on around me. What the fuck's going on?
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Yeah, and this was twenty one years ago, twenty one
years before.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Showing imagine what yeah, imagine what you could do now, especially,
but you know, I always wondered, and I'm I was
very curious. Is when he goes in the first time,
he picks up a diet coke, looks at it, puts
it back, and gets a regular coke. The second time,
and it's the zombie time he picks up a regular
(23:29):
coke and he's looking at something and he puts that
back and gets a diet coke? What is he looking
at him? That can?
Speaker 3 (23:37):
That's way more his analysis.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
I just thought it was so well. I'll be honest,
I guess because when I because he makes it a
point to look and switch. But I didn't even care
that he picked up whichever one. But I'm like, what
is he looking at that's making him not choose? And
I guess because I'm like, it's coke and diet coke,
Like what are we like it? I'm I'm just curious.
And then I think, is it expiration date? But why
(24:03):
wouldn't he just go look at the other diet coke?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Yeah, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
I want to talk to Edgar. I want to talk
to Edgar Simon one of those two and say, what
could you have possibly been looking at? If you like
your diet coke, what's it matter? But anyway, I should
admit I turned it off after that, so I'm not
sure what happens. I was fed up. I was fed up.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
That seems on par for the course. Uh, with your
ability to do research.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
For this, how dare you? I watch all these.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Some other people that watched it and some love, some
didn't love are people on Letterbox. So I have some
reviews here from people. We're going to start with number
one Gizmo fan. That's a great name. They gave Sean
the Dead four and a half stars on Letterbox and
says the fact that the brutal murdering of that old
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man was in scene with Don't Stop Me Now by
Queen is utterly breathtaking, truly masterful work.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Yeah. There was a lot of the a lot of
the musical choices in this that I thought kind of
in and of themselves were pretty comical.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're good choices though.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yeah. Oh I agree. James on Letterbox gives it four
stars as well. Surprisingly works better for me from a
dramatic standpoint than a comedic one. It's still really funny,
but I'm also incredibly interest invested in Sean trying to
repair and come to grips with its relationships in the
midst of a zombie apocalypse. Tons of stellar scenes and
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impeccable direction makes this a blastery visit.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
I was kind of there. I'm kind of with him. Yeah,
my rewatching it like like in one sit in one
sit down. I actually, again, there are some funny parts,
but there actually is a lot of heart and emotion
in it that I don't think I would have given
it credit for based on just what I remember seeing
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when it first come out.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah, I would agree wholeheartedly. That's kind of how I
remembered this movie was that, oh, it was just a silly,
dumb zombie comedy thing, and then when I rewatched it
was kind of like, wow, there is there are some
really interesting themes that kind of kind of hit home
in this.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
I just remember that other one where he's Nick Frost
has a good one where he's going through the mail,
and the last one he's like going to ate out
your mom and he's like what and he has that look. Yeah,
I'm like this is so like he is. I he's
so ridiculous in this one. I like him. I haven't
seen him in a ton of stuff all outside of
Edgar Wright stuff, but I love how like some of
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the stuff he just would sneak in and the looks
he would give, and.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Just how like he does not want to do shit.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
No ever, especially if that other roommate asked him to.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Do it would be it would be really hard to
be friends with that guy.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Yeah, that was his first movie.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Nick Frost, Yeah, yeah, he was in. He'd done television,
but this was his first film. I will say, I'll
piggyback on what James was saying when he comes to
the dramatic standpoints in the film. I harken some of
those scenes in comparison to some of the scenes and
the songs actually and in The Apocalypse, where I went
into that movie thinking I was just gonna get a silly,
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you know, horror comedy spoof, when actually there's a lot
of you know, like like heart tugging moments throughout that movie,
as there is I think in Shawn the Dead as well. Yeah,
I highly recommend everybody to go see an in the
Apocalypse whenever they can. I'm moving on.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
How could we forget that Nick Frost was in fighting
with my family?
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Oh my god, he was.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah, he's the dad, right the brother? Was he the
brother or was he the dad?
Speaker 4 (27:54):
No, he was the dad because the brother was what's
his name? Yeah, he's I've seen him and some other
stuff too, but yeah, yeah, he was in it too.
In case anybody, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yeah, Dwayne Johnson has a cameo and.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
It is Oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I've seen fighting with my family.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Yeah, Nina Hetty, I had some good ones.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
I think I think we still have like fifteen or
years or so to go for that one.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Oh yeah, no, we'll be done.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah. Lauren on Letterbox three and a half stars, Sean
having self esteem issues and self doubt instead of fighting
zombies in the middle of a zombie attack is peak relatability.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
That's true. Yeah, and that probably speaks even more so
today than it did.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
It does absolutely uh. And then there's ray On Force,
who gave four stars as well. Sean of the Dead
used only one queen song and it's already a better
queen bio pick than Bohemian raps.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Hell yeah, hell yeah, is some funny uh. Bohemian Rhapsody.
Hate on the Shawn and the Dead Letterbox reviews.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Oh good, really good.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
They're probably British.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
There were some people that were saying like this was
this should have been Bohemian Rhapsody.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah. I purposely pulled out that uh that review strictly
for for Brandon's.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Thank You, Thank You.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
But it took it took a while, but I did
find one person who does not like the film, and
it's somebody named nohen h gave it two stars and
he says, or they say, I apologize in advance, but
I must be the most grumpy person alive because I
didn't find anything funny in this film.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Lame grumpy ass.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Yeah, I would like to know if Jesse or Britney.
I don't know who to accuse, but why they don't
like it.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
I don't remember, well you don't remember even who said it,
but I want to know. I want to. But also,
that's good. That's a good business. Hand someone a movie
you're gonna buy and say I didn't like it.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Here this well, you know, Brandon as an investor in
Dangers On Video, you might want to have a talk
with some of the employees.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Should yeah, I should said, hey, guys, you're supposed to
like everything. Yeah, lie, yeah, customer is always right.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Uh. It did win some awards. Uh. It won four
Fangoria chainsaw Awards, including Best Wide Release Film, Best Actor
for Signon Peg, Best Supporting Actor for Nick Frost, and
then Best Screenplay Written by Peg and right that we
talked about.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
That's a hell of award to win Best Wide Release.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
That's Liken the King run.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Yeah it is. Yeah, King of the World right there
for the Fangoria Chain saw. I don't I don't even
think they're real anymore, but.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yeah, they're still is it around? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Oh man? Wow, well, good for them Best Wide Relief.
That makes me think there's an award that says for
things that came out less and this came out six
hundred theaters really confused, but anyway, good for them.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah. Getting into some fun facts about the film, Shawn
the Dead famously kicks off what's become known as the
as the Cornetto Trilogy. It's actually the Three Flavors Corneto Trilogy,
which includes Hot Fuzz and the World's End along with
Shana Dead. The trilogy is so named because the films
share certain thematic concerns. They're all in the same way
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about men who have to learn to grow up and
move on with their lives, for example. And because corneto
is actually an ice cream snack that appears in all
three films. Oh so you may ask, how did that start? Well,
according to Edgar Wright, it's because he wants ada cornetto
ice cream to get over a hangover and thought it
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would be funny if Nick Frost's character Ed did the
same thing after a night of drinking. He says, it's
the weirdest thing you would want to eat at the
time in the morning. When I was in college, I
got very, very drunk once and I had a cornetto
in the morning, and I felt a lot better. So
it became my hangover cure, and it still is. And
this movie was shot over nine weeks between May and
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July of two thousand and three.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
And they say dairy's actually good for the hangover if
you drink a glass of milk the next morning.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
I think Shan of the Dead is my favorite of
the three, though.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
I would have to go back and watch the other two.
I remember really liking Hot Fuzz, and I remember liking
the World's End too, but not I don't know. I
would have to revisit. But I'm kind of I think
I'm with you on Shawn of the Dead's problem.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
I feel like Hot fuzz was good, but there was
something where you because you wanted that Shanna the Dead,
like like you wanted that energy again near though it's
a different kind of story and everything, but I want
to think and none of them are bad, but I
want to think it was Shann of the Dead and
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that World's In and then Hot Fuzzed. But that's like
a difference of like, you know, between maybe a star
or half a star. But I don't think it ever
quite got to that Shann of the Dead, which also
kind of makes sense because sometimes when you when you're
first exposed to it, that's what becomes kind of your favorite,
and everything else seems like, well, yeah, but they didn't
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do this, or well you know this, you know this
didn't work out, and oh, you know, because I think
Nick Frost, I think they're all in it. But Martin Freeman,
who shows his face in this, plays a much bigger
role in the next two, and he's become one of
my favorites. He's in a he was in a show
on FX called Breeders that I it's a britishman, but
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I absolutely love my wife and I'm watch all. I
think it was like three or four seasons. But and
then obviously you know, with the Hobbit and stuff like that.
But I really I've really come to like him. But
I saw him. Man, he's so young, like some of
these people still look like their kids. So besides Bill Knight,
the Martin Freeman's in this who also probably was not
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shown at all in any any public publicity stuff for trailers,
but still so.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
The movie was inspired by an episode of the TV
show Spaced that Nick, Edgar, and Simon were all a
part of. It's an episode called Art. Tim the character
played by Simon Pegg, is under the influence of amphetamines
and while playing Resident Evil too, he hallucinates that he's
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fighting off a zombie invasion, and after Art was filmed,
Edgar Wright pits the idea of a feature length zombie comedy,
and Peg and Frost were obviously inspired by the work
of George A. Romero director Not the Living Dad. The
Crazy is down of the Dead, and that's kind of
where the birth of Shawn the Day it came.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
From all of that's in like everything. Yeah, that DNA
is all over the place, I mean just spewing all over.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
His Sean's mother's name is Barbara, who was the character
and not the living dead, and the most One of
the most famous lines in movie history, let alone horror
movie history, is at the beginning where the boyfriend says,
they're coming to get you Barbara. Yeah, and he actually
delivers that line, I'm coming to get you Barbara to
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his mom on the phone in the film.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
I didn't even catch I didn't.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
I didn't catch that together. I didn't when you said
when you said Barbara, I remember from now I live
in Dead, but I didn't catch it. In watching Seanta Dead.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Nice nice little easter egg.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Yeah, nice nice touch there. Yep.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
George A. Romero was actually so impressed with the work
of on Shana the Dead that he asked uh Edgar
Wright and Simon Peg to do a cameo in his
two thousand film Landed the Dead.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's it's in Simon Pegg's filmography.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
I was like, huh oh yeah, yep. It's a quick
little cameo. There's a part where rich super rich people
are able to go into a photo booth and take
pictures with chained up zombies, and that's where that's the
scene they're in.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Wait a minute, when was that?
Speaker 2 (36:24):
I do believe Landa the Dead was two thousand and five.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Oh okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
And when asked by an interviewer why they chose to
have slow moving zombies instead of fast moving zombies like
you see in like twenty one twenty eight days, Simon
Pegg simply replied, because death is not an energy drink. Hmm.
Take that for what you think.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
And well, one, that's a great answer, but two that
would like half that movie would not work if we're
at full pace because the humans aren't at full pace.
So so that's just you know, just technically wouldn't work anyway.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
But the movie lasted about three minutes.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Yeah, while he goes to find that other diet coke
or coke, he'd be dead.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
But I love her like that, like that the homeless
Guy's like, oh I saw it, man, I couldn't even
I couldn't even pay for my fucking drink, Like having
this like mid conversation thing while everyone is clearly the
world's gone to shit, but I love it. It's that's
the part of the brilliance.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Uh. I mentioned the show space that Peg frosted right
were all about. Most of the zombie extras were fans
of that show that were recruited through the spaced out
fan website that the show has.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Oh nice, so that some budgets.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Yeah it did.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Yeah. Uh supposedly he paid or Simon Peg or the
production paid all of the non zombie extras a dollar
a day and tribute to uh George A. Romero playing
are paying a dollar to each zombie extra and not
as a living dead.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
How about that? So they're really they're they're making some
art here. They are they are connecting yea to their
to their forfeit.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
And they're also I don't think that is the pay skill,
so that might be legal.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
It sounds cool, but.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
I don't want a dollar a day.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Like I've been an extra in a
number of films back in the day, and even in
the nineties I got paid more than a dollar a day.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Yeah. I imagine them giving them a dollar well you
know when George Romero did this and even a dollar
and I just remember them being like, fuck you. I
want my money.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Quentin Tarantino actually dubbed this as one of his top
twenty movies of all time.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Really yeah, that kind of sid Wait yeah, I say,
with his with his unique taste, I can kind of
see him ranking this pretty high. Yeah, that seems more
top which is saying a lot. But he's I don't
know if you guys know this, Quentin Tarantino watches a
lot of movies. I think. Yeah, so that's saying that's
saying something.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Yeah. In March of twenty eleven, this movie was voted
by BBC Radio One and BBC Radio one Extra listeners
as their second favorite movie of all time. Wow, film,
do you think out Shot of the Dead.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
As the number one? Like not horror comics number one movie? All?
Speaker 2 (39:33):
It is not a British film, It's an American film.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
Oh well, now you've really This was in twenty eleven.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Yeah, it was not Appenheimer.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Yeah, Titanic, Castle Blanca.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Shawshank Redemption.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
That was my next one.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Yeah, we would have gotten there.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yep. The working title, an eventual title for Shawn the
Dead was not what we originally had. The title began
as what Edgar Edgar Wright describes as a one page
word document that sketched out the general idea of the movie,
and it was then called tea Time of the Dead.
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Of that I would like the Time of the Dead.
So if anybody thinks of rebooting this film, I don't
think that's ever gonna happen. Uh. Simon Pegg said that
him and director Edgar Wright would be incensed if the
film was ever rebooted, mainly because it's so special to
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them due to its many autobiographical elements. For example, in
real life, Peg and Nick Frost were very attached to
the regular pub, the Shepherds and Highgates so much that
Wright would have difficulties to take them anywhere else for
a change.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
So there's a little bit of bleeding over. Yeah, I could,
I could see that, But I think it's also one
of the those cases of why would you want to
reboot this because you're never going to capture the same,
the same essence of what made this movie great and
it was like the people involved, and it's just no point.
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Anything less would be, anything new would be a lesser
imitation of it.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
I feel like British movies have don't get remade and
rebooted quite like American movies do, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Just get remade by American companies.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
Right, But then but a lot of times, like it's
it's more of like the like the Ring and Regoo
like sometimes they're trying to americanize it, which is the
case they did with four Weddings and a Funeral for instance.
But I also kind of feel like, you know, Sean
of the Dead was not a hit when it came out. Yeah,
so now granted you've gained you know, you've gained an
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audience cult classic situation, but from Sean of the Dead
till now, the zombie game genre has changed too. Yeah,
and so and as we were talking about at the
top of this, a lot of things try to imitate
Sean of the Dead. So you trying to reboot it,
I feel like it's just going to be that's even
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a bigger waste than trying to implement some of the
things that Edgar and Simon and all those guys did.
But yeah, it's also very personal.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
So yeah, sometimes you just have to acknowledge you had
lightning in a bottle.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
That's right, that's right, yep. While they did with Lantern.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Yeah, while they were going around pitching the movie to production, companies.
There was a production company that shown interest in it,
but then that company wanted to start cutting back the
budget to the film, which basically caused Right and Simon
Peg to walk away. And Right was so dead set
on getting this movie made that he held off on
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taking any other directing jobs, especially on television, because that
would have taken more time from him to be able
to give to the film. And in fact, during this
he was just rapidly going broke and had no money.
So basically Simon Pegg pretty much floated Edgar Wright for
a while until they were able to get you know,
financing for the film. And according to Edgar Wright, Simon
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Pegg has still yet allowed him to pay him back
any of the money that he borrowed.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
And that's uh, did a lot for both of them.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
So yeah, but that's very nice.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
That's a dude right there.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
That is, Yeah, that's a dude. I guess my question is,
what the fuck is Nick Frost doing?
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Then? Nick fo He's like he's like that, He's like
that roommate he is in real life.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
That is that is exactly because he's got Harry Potter
money now and from what I understand, JK Rowling is
a very sweet woman, and so I just don't understand
why he can't, why he can't, why he can't chip
in now.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Well, also, he's got you know, a DreamWorks movie, now money,
now with.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
How to True, he's at least in the next two.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
Yeah, and he's he's got the snow White and the
Huntsman too.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
Oh, that's right, that's right, God, DreamWorks and Disney money.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Hey. He obviously he's just holding he's holding it to himself.
Speaker 4 (44:08):
Yeah, I guess, so selfish bastard.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
None for Edgar Wright.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
None.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Uh. If you wanted a sequel to uh Shawn the Dead,
it's not happening. They did consider a sequel that would
replace the zombies with another monster, but decided against it
as they were pleased with this movie as a standalone
product and thought too many characters died to continue the story,
and the proposed title was going to be from Dust
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till Sean.
Speaker 4 (44:37):
Thank you No see the titles. The titles nice, But
I think doing the trilogy that they did was a
better way of kind of bringing it together than any
kind of Sewan and Sean of the Dead too. But
that is a that's a that's a fun title. I'll
give you that.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yeah, I will say that From Dust Till Sean does
live inside the MCU. Excuse me, there is a title,
I mean, excuse me a movie mocked up movie poster
for from From Dust Till Sean that is found in
Spider Man Into the Spider Verse. Oh okay, little easter egg.
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There yea.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
A deep couch.
Speaker 4 (45:20):
Really yeah, that's really digging in there now.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
One of my favorite scenes in the whole film is
where the zombie apocalypse is first happening and Sean and
Ed are warding off zombies by throwing LP or vinyl
records at them. Yes, they list many artists, but they
could only get two artists to sign off allowing their
actual albums to be shown. One was the British new
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wave band New Order and the other was shaw Day herself.
That right, that is that is correct? I thought, you know,
the they mentioned Prince Obviously they had purple Rain, Sean
Sign of the Time. I almost said Sean at the Time,
Some of the Times, and the Batman's Batman Soundtract, which
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is eventually what they end up throwing at at the zombies,
trying to kill them with the Batman soundtract. So my
question is to you your favorite artists, which of their
albums are you willing to give up to save your life.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
I don't know that I have a favorite artist to
begin with.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
That's that.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
I would say the third Melene and the Sons of
Disaster album was a pretty clear departure from the first
two that I didn't enjoy that much.
Speaker 4 (46:40):
You know what that does remind me because there's a
and I don't know the name of it, but it's
maybe the third or fourth I don't know one of
Mumford's son's albums, and it's not a good one.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
And I like some of the songs, but not all
of them. And I probably would have done that one
or we were talking about this before we started, but
I really liked Sugar Ray Fly when I was younger,
but that CD none of it sounded like that one.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
Or that was pretty deceiving if you were a kid
that just heard Fly and thought that's what I'm getting.
The rest of that album is like some sort of
like contorted metal.
Speaker 4 (47:22):
Yeah, or the one that had a smash mouth. There
was one that walking on the Sun. The rest of
that album was not very good. But then I thought
the other one that had all Star on it, I
don't remember liking that. I'll just throw all the smash
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mouths CDs at them and one of those, one of
those Mumford and Sun CDs and that Sugar Ray one.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
There we go.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
Yeah, I would go with a different Prints album because
I don't mind Batman. I would probably do the Graffiti
Bridge soundtracked, which was a bad movie and an okay album,
and then probably Rave Against the Joy Fantastic, which is
a not good Prince album at all that features Sheryl
Crow on it, of all people.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
Oh, how about that.
Speaker 4 (48:16):
I wouldn't give anything, okay.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Well, Sean of the Dead is a full on comedy.
Uh is full of comedy laden character deaths, but one
particular death actually caused real grief, and that is the
death of Barbara, Sean's mother. According to Edgar Wright and
Simon Peg, Peg reacted to the idea of Barbara dying
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as if his own mother was being killed, and after
the death scene was filmed, Peg and Frost both cried
real tears.
Speaker 3 (48:50):
Man, Wow, that's you know what. Yeah, this sounds pretty
personal to Simon.
Speaker 4 (48:55):
Yeah, I see why we don't want to just start Nobody,
Nobody and Sean will be, Ryan Gosling.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
Yeah, Glenn Powell.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
Yeah. Speaking of people who could have been in the film,
I do have one last note, and that's a could have,
would have, should have And it's about Barbara. Uh somebody
was offered the role of Barbara but declined.
Speaker 4 (49:18):
It is easy Judy Dinch.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
Helen Mirren, Helen Mirren exactly.
Speaker 4 (49:25):
Oh wow, Maggie Smith one of them.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
All right, you had like a one in five shot again, right, yeah,
for sure, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
Uh So before we get out of here, any any
favorite scenes or quotes we want to touch base on
before we go.
Speaker 3 (49:40):
I think we've already touched on him. For me, I
do like the scene where David gets pulled out of
the pub and they start like ripping his yeah, and
then his girlfriend is like still like I'm going to
open the door, I'm gonna come save you, and I'm
just like it reminded me of that scene from what
was it The Watch where he's like fe oh yeah,
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that's gone. Yeah, that's what it's like. You are probably
like he's gone.
Speaker 4 (50:06):
But I like and I like the I like how
it kind of comes full circle at the end where
he goes in into playing video games and you just
see Nick Fross just slowly like try to bite his arm.
Hey hey, but that like that sums up basically their fight.
I gotta say, I you talked about you said Glenn Powell. Well,
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Glenn Powell is in Edgar Wright's new film, which is
a remake of Themaking which is which is also an
Arnold movie.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
How about that? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (50:36):
Did you ever see that?
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Stephen King film is the BRIT's favorite film. According to
Paul and.
Speaker 4 (50:43):
Bingo Jim Robbins.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
We really didn't mention the friends of Sean and the girlfriend,
but that the girlfriend of the the guy who's pulled apart,
she's basically a cup in the film because she unveils
or or reveals that, you know, she knows that her
boyfriend is in love with uh Sean's ex girlfriend and
(51:07):
she was just along for the ride. Anyway.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
Yeah, there's layers to this film. Yeah, there's depth.
Speaker 4 (51:12):
There really is more to it than I think you
give credit for, which I mean when I saw it,
I was like seventeen, so you know, I was just
hoping there were boobies.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Yeah, uh, there's not. This is not twenty eight years
later where there's plenty of boobies.
Speaker 4 (51:28):
Oh well, yeah, there's plenty of cock too.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
I heard there is I heard of cock.
Speaker 3 (51:33):
Yeah, I heard the new one should be called twenty
eight inches.
Speaker 4 (51:37):
Yeah it's uh yeah, Thor lost his hammer. It's between
those dudes legs assure you.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
Uh, I don't know how to segue, so let's uh
mount rushmore time. Uh my favorite A favorite British films
of all time.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
Mine's pretty easy. I go Lawrence of a Ray nineteen seventeen,
Dunkirk and Gosford Park.
Speaker 4 (52:05):
Yeah, okay, mine was Mine was kind of tough because
there's a lot, and honestly, I would I would easily
probably change out some of them. But funny enough, Dunkirk
in nineteen seventeen or two of mine, because I just
think they're some of the best war films and best
films that has been done. And you're talking about Sam
Mendez and Noel Lindham, so I couldn't look past that.
(52:28):
I kind of had a little trouble with the last
little bit. I have Skyfall. Okay, I think it's a
British film because it's James Bond, and honestly, I'm I
would switch out either one, but I really have come to.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Really like m.
Speaker 3 (52:46):
Bruges, see I haven't watched it yet.
Speaker 4 (52:48):
And Atonement I enjoyed. I like those a lot, But
like I said, there's some other ones that obviously, I mean,
you're talking about all these British films, but those are
those of my faves.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
I had two honorable mentions one Snatch, big fan of
that movie, and then Patting Team two.
Speaker 4 (53:09):
Oh yeah, I almost put I almost put that, that's right.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
Yeah. But my four first and foremost is Trained Spotting.
Absolutely love that fucking movie, uh, twenty eight days later.
And then I have two I don't think maybe either
one of you may be heard of or seen. One
is called How to Have Sex. It's a twenty twenty
three film about this group of girls who go on
on holiday yeah and try, and one of them is
(53:37):
basically trying to lose their virginity. I just enjoy that film.
Speaker 4 (53:40):
Yeah, I do know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
And then lastly is Nil by Mouth, which is from
nineteen ninety seven and it was Gary Oldman's directorial debut.
It is a very heavy and somewhat depressing film about
domestic abuse.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
Well, oh man, you had me at Gary Oldman. But yeah,
lost me a heavy domestic abuse.
Speaker 2 (54:03):
Yeah it could. Yeah, it's the only film he's ever directed. Wow.
Speaker 3 (54:08):
He he did that and was like, no, I can't
ain't doing it?
Speaker 2 (54:13):
Yeah yeah, So yeah, that's all I have for SHAWNA
the Dead, unless, gentlemen, we have something else we'd like
to add before we get out of here.
Speaker 3 (54:21):
All clear on my end?
Speaker 4 (54:22):
Me too.
Speaker 2 (54:23):
We are up against the clock. So hey, check us
out on Nashville and Movie Database our dispatch where you
can find all of our work. I mean, Nashville Movie
Database sounds pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (54:36):
That's what brand is.
Speaker 2 (54:37):
We should get on that.
Speaker 3 (54:38):
That's what Brandon called it. For the first six months
it was open.
Speaker 2 (54:41):
Yeah. Oh so I don't feel so bad then.
Speaker 3 (54:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (54:44):
Most importantly, subscribe to Drinking with wherever you get your
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Speaker 3 (55:00):
At Stony Keeley and at Sobrosnetwork Sobrosnetwork dot com.
Speaker 4 (55:05):
And that's sir Brandon v On Twitter, Sir Brandon on
Letterbox and of course everything on Nashville mooviedispatch dot substack
dot com.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
You can find me on x at mc underscore Cast
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to put a plug in. We will be doing a
live stream once again for a Halloween episode coming up.
Keep your eyes in the ears posted wherever you are
on social media with the Sobros Network and such. I
will go ahead and spoil it. We're doing Saw. Saw
(55:36):
is turning twenty one years twenty one years old this year.
Speaker 3 (55:39):
Can't believe it.
Speaker 2 (55:40):
I'm so excited to talk about this film. But cheer, yeah,
cheers to another episode of Drinking with where we have
had explored the films that have come of age. Just
like the fine wine. We've raised our glasses to movies
turning twenty one where we've laughed, reminisced, and maybe shed
a tear. Two Well Simon Peg did over this timeless classic.
So until next time, where your drinks be cold, your
(56:01):
conversation is lively, and your movie nights unforgettable. Drink responsibly
and remember age is just a number, but great films
are forever and we'll see you next time, because I
have to return some videotapes
The Sobros Network presents the Movie podcast, breaking down films
and their impact on pop culture as they approach the
legal drinking age. This is Drinking With now Here's your host,
Steven m cash.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Welcome to a spooky season, everybody, and an all new
episode of Drinking With the Podcast where we raise the
glass of the movies that have reached the legal drinking age.
I'm your host, Steph mccash or the Sobros Network, and
join me as we embark on a cinematic journey to
the classics of yesteryear, celebrating their twenty first birthdays in style.
From iconic blockbusters to hitting gems, Each episode will toast
(00:54):
to a different film that has stood the test of
time and shaped our cultural landscape. So grab your favorite
beverage or the one we have curated for this episode,
and let's dive deep into the nostalgia as we explore
movies that are finally old enough to drink. Join us
for a drink at the bar, and joining me at
the bar as always, are the two best people I
can think of to stumble out of the bar after
a long discussion of films versus the resident film critic
(01:17):
of the Sobros Network Brandon Vick, who's also a member
of the Southeastern Film Critics Association, a board member of
the Music City Films Critics Association, and most importantly the
birth giver of the vix Flicks and the Cinema Chronicles
podcast that you can hear wherever you get your podcasts
from and joining him as always is the man behind
the brains here at Sobros Network, the eic, the glue
(01:39):
of the brand. A Jim Fishinado, all around cat lover
and football wordsmiths. Mister Stony Keeley, gentleman, Spooky Season is here.
How are we doing today?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Loving it? I love the film that we're going to
talk about today. I think it's a different, different kind
of spooky season, which I like a little variety every
now and then. But this is the time of year
where I start curating those films, the classics, the ones
that I watch every year, and I start lining it up.
Open up the windows, let a breeze blow through, throw
(02:14):
some chili in the crock pot, and watch a scary movie.
Can't beat it. You can't beat it.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
No, I was just telling I was just telling Stony
about I don't know. I don't know the date, but
there is a one week event where one of my
favorites of Spooky season, Para Norman, is coming back in
three D, and I really want to check that out
because that is one of my go tos in October.
(02:44):
Absolutely that in the Passion of the Christ. It's scary.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I'm still waiting on that sequel.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Yeah, oh it's coming, don't you worry.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I will say this is a film that it's in
my It's in high regard as far as comedy hard.
It's one of the i'd say top two or three
that's ever been made. And it's routinely uh on a
TV near me at some point during Spooky season without
a doubt.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yeah, I'm I'm with it.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
I yes, I don't watch it every Spooky season, but
I do. I do like it.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I have it in the collection, and I just what
I have is like my collection for October. And sometimes
some years I'll pull it out, some years I won't.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
I think a nice double feature would be this and
uh and in the Apocalypse.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Oh okay, now you had me at an in the
Apocalypse right there. You know that's what that's a that's one.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
I know you do. And my wife. My wife loves
it too, and I actually enjoy it more than I
thought I would. But yeah, that's I think it's a
nice double feature.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I still haven't seen that.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Well, it's a musical, so I don't expect you to
ever see it, right, Yeah, yeah, but I would add
in uh, Tucker, Tucker and Dale versus Evil would be
my my my triple shot when it comes to hell
you are, but we are talking about Shawn of the
Dead and simply put, what could possibly go wrong when
you're a directionalist slacker Britt who is trying to win
(04:10):
back your ex and reconcile with your mother at the
same time. For Sean, it's zombies. Zombies is what could
go wrong? And boy does it go wrong. Shawan the
Dead is directed by I think one of the world's
finest directors right now, Edgar Wright, who also did Baby Driver,
Last Night in Soho and one of my all time
(04:32):
favorite documentaries, The Sparks Brothers. He also co wrote the
film with its star Simon Pegg and this became part
of a trilogy as we all know. And the film
is starring Simon Peg as I just mentioned, who plays Sean,
who we obviously know from the Mission Impossible franchise, Paul,
(04:53):
the Alien comedy Paul, and my favorite David Schwimmer directed
film Run, Fat Boy Run David Schwimmer.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
I forgot he did that.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I love that movie, also co starring his real life
best friend Nick Frost as Ed, who was also in
Paul and can be seen in the live action How
to Train Your Dragon.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
How about that?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
And he's essentially the real two stars of the film.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
He's playing Hagrid in the Harry Potter Show. Really yep,
good for him, Good for him.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Only the only other member of the cast I really
wanted to to mention as somebody who's been on the
podcast before, and you can feel it in your bones.
Yeah that is Bill Nye, not the science guy who
plays Sean's stepdad Philip.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
I was so happy when I saw him.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I forgot about it too.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I love it. Yeah, So on drinking with we need
to drink, And oddly enough, this episode hasn't been derailed
early on, so I was a little surprised we got
to the drink so fast.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
But I was looking at Simon Pegg's filmography, to be
honest with you, just kind of looking at some of
his other stuff and because his name came up earlier
in the year when we talked about the Mission Impossible
franchise on the Vicks Fwigs podcast, and I just thought
good for him, But I kind of wanted to see, like, Okay,
I know he does these British comedies and there's you know,
(06:24):
Hot Fuzz and The World's End and all that stuff too,
and I knew of the Mission Impossible movies, but I
wanted to see what else he's done. He's made a
nice little career for himself.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, he hasn't done too bad. The drink that we're
making today is called the Winchester Red. You're simply just
gonna need announce and a half a spice rum announce
of a cherry liqueur, half ounce of sweet for a youth,
some cranberry juice, some bitters, some Maraschino cherries, and an
(06:53):
orange twist so optional. What you can do here is
rim the glass with red sugar or like a crushed candy,
like a red candy of some sort, like a jolly
ranch or something. You fill a cocktail shaker with ice,
add the spice around the cherry liquor, the Vermuth cranberry juice,
and bitters, uh dash of bitters and like a splice
of cranberry juice is really all you need. Shake well
(07:14):
straight into a child's rock glass or a low ball
glass over fresh ice garner with the marachino cherry and
an orange twist. And there is your Winchester red.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
That sounds fantastic.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
That sounds like a liquored up fruit basket.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
It's good for this time of year. You know what
I might do? I might I might rim it with
some crushed up red hots. Oh there's things the cinnamon candy.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
How would you mind with ketchup jump like festive to
get Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Love it in the sense of like uh Nashville hot chicken.
It's said you can just rim it in like some
red hots sauce or something. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
You gotta be careful when you're rimming it.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Yeah, well that's true.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Put protection on.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah when you're when you're you know, going for a
rim job, you definitely have to be careful.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
You start firing that Winchester, you're gonna be firing something
else to that booty hole.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
There's the uh off railing that I was through the.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Drink though, through the drink, firing that Winchester booty hole.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I wanted to. I didn't want to say booty hole, but.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I what did you RPG?
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Huh, Well, I wanted to kind of come up with like, oh,
you know, the I don't know, the poop caboose or
something like that. I didn't want to just do I
didn't want to.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah, sometimes you get in those moments and it just.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Excuse me, throat.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Sometimes you get to those moments and it just doesn't
come to you quickly.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
And now the firing your Winchester into took all I
had got.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
So this is completely off subject. But I did just
listen to an episode of the Dax Shepherd podcast Armchair
Expert where they talked about forty five minutes worth of
weird things that have been found in people's bum holes,
and uh, one of them, Yeah, no, but presidential Barbie was.
(09:13):
Oh and when it was discovered, because the patient in
question denied having anything up there, but was like, somebody
could have put something up there, but I didn't. So
when the nurse examined him, there was. She said there
was two perfect little doll feats just hanging out of
his anus. Oh my god. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
But also that should be a lesson to you that
when we go off the rails, it could be way
worse and could last for way longer.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
We could end up on presidential Barbie up in tutors
for you.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah. Another one was a somebody had stuck a can
of but tane gasrect Hell. Yeah, I don't know sure
or not.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
I don't get I don't understand how that gets.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
You got how you get to the buttane gas and.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
But then by the and then you have the nerve
to go in somewhere and say nothing's up there. Yeah,
like I see two little baby dolbe. What do you
mean they did?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
They had a nurse. They had a nurse on that
told a story. And we'll move back to the podcast,
I promise, uh where a guy came in and he
was honest. He's like, look, I did a bunch of cocaine.
I had a bunch of hookers and somehow I got
something up my ass and it turned out to be
like a can of coke zero.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Oh, listen, that's a fat that's a fat cylinder.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
And so they they had an Asian nurse who was
uh was small, so she had small but strong hands.
I was able to with lubrication and such get up there.
But a suction had been caused by the by the
anus that had made it where you couldn't pull the
can out. So the doctor on hand was like, can
(11:05):
you reach the tab to the can? And she's like yeah,
She's like, let's open it. And so they open it
and here comes coke zero with micro poop and shit
just flowing everywhere.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
So it was an unopened it can.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
It's unopened.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
I think next time you should just like just open
it and then just pour the coke zero into your butt. Yeah,
that should be better. Get a nice butthole wash with
coke zero.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I bet that an ass douche.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
I bet that kind of felt good though coming out.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
You mean, like when she opened it, well yeah, probably
going in is a different story, but yeah coming out.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
With yeah, you gotta do some serious stretching. But do
you think what it was was like they were fucked
up and they were like, let's see if it must be.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Because if you're honest enough, and then you say, I'm
not sure how yeah, but it's up there. I want
to know. I mean, cocaine must be a powerful thing
to be like, you know what should don't don't even
open it, just shove it in there in case I
need it later. And I bet you it was hot too,
(12:13):
nothing more. Nothing's more disgusting than a hot coke zero,
I assure you.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Maybe your ass. Oh lord, let's get back on. Let's
talk money. So, uh, the budget for this film is
listed in pounds, not US dollars.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
We got to do a currency, yeah, man.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
So how many pounds do we think the budget was
for Sean of the Dead in two thousand and four?
Speaker 4 (12:46):
I'm going to say, what's what's what's pounds a dollar?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
That's what I'm looking up.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Now we got you can't look at today. You need
to look at what's two thousand and four?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Conversion was that's where's thousand and four and owned a dollar?
So it would have been zero point five four. But
I don't know which way is which?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
You know what? This is way too too much?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
How much was it?
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I'm gonna say seventeen eighteen.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Million Sean with the opening weekend?
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Right, No, no, this is budget?
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Okay, okay, budget, all right, you know what I'm believing.
I'm going to go I'm going to go lower. I'm
just gonna say.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Eleven eleven million and seventeen million for the budget. Yeah,
uh for four million, okay, four million pounds, which was
the equivalent of seven point twenty four million dollars in
September of four when it opened.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
To be clear, I was thinking like that probably cost
them thirty million dollars to make this movie.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yeah, but it only costs four Yeah. The film open
July thirtieth in Iceland. Bye. In the US, it didn't
open til the weekend of September twenty six. It opened
on six hundred and seventh screens, alongside The Forgotten and
First Daughter. So take that six hundred and seven into
(14:13):
your equation. What do we think opening weekend US Canada
was and US dollars as well, we're out of the
pounds for Shanda debt.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
I'm I'm gonna say I'm gonna say twelve million.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
I'm gonna say eight How about.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Three point three?
Speaker 3 (14:31):
That's surprising because I remember this movie coming out, and
I remember the previews for it, and I remember like.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
That's a very that's quite a limited release, six I
mean less than seven hundred screens. Yeah, But and you're
also thinking that no one knows, like, no one knows anybody.
It's just do you are you a horror fan?
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Well, they know that guy from love. Actually that's about
all they know.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Yeah, and I don't even know if he was shown
as much.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah. I don't think he was in the previews by
any means. Yeah, but I will say so do you You
said thirteen million for opening weekend? It's total domestic box
office was just under fourteen and a half million.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Wow, So but still four million dollar budget.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Yeah, it's an unknown cast.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Or technically seven million dollar budget.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
So yeah, but that's only but that's only in the States.
Where's Bulgaria.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Well, we'll get we won't get the book in some
other countries. I'm going to tell you the top five
that week. Charlotte Dead obviously did not make that top five,
but your top five at number five was First Daughter,
the classic Katie Holmes film.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
I don''t know. I mean I remember it.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
It's I've never seen it, but I know it exists. Yeah,
Resident Evil Apocalypse is at number four. I don't know
if that's the second or third or fourth series? Is
the second? Yeah, the Bernie mac phenomenal film, Mister three thousand,
Mister three thousand three underrated baseball film, and then the
(15:59):
two top two movies that I've never seen. One I
don't remember at all, but number two A Sky Captain
in the World of Tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Oh yeah, I remember liking that at the time.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah, never saw it. And then your number one film
that I don't remember at all but forgotten.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Julian Moore. It's not very good. It's like, yeah, it's
like a somewhat of a thriller, kind of scary, psychological,
but yeah it was. I just remember being very boring.
So I Stamuel Jackson in it too.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Julian Moore for sure is in it.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Julian Moore, Alfree Woodard, Gary Sonise is in it. I
do not see Samuel's phenomenal cast.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
There is something else that he's in with her. But anyway,
but yeah, very good.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
It brought in fourteen and a half million in the
States worldwide altogether just under a little over thirty one
and a half million, get it. Your big winner is
obviously the UK, where it did eight point nine million dollars.
The Germans brought in one point one million, so you
get ten million.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Dollars for extruments.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, and then our friends in Lebanon brought in six thousand,
six hundred and forty three dollars and it's Lean Elebanon.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
I've Leon Tennessee. Yeah, thanks Watertown.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I was about to say, wow, the Malco what is
it out there? I don't remember what it is? Malco
in Lebanon, The Roxy Roxy, the Roxy doing some numbers
for Shawna the Dead back in the day.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Lastly on the box office. This is according to box
office Mojo, which is where I get all my stats
for the various countries such. It has listed Argentina's lifetime
gross for Shawna the Dad at one dollar.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
No, how does that work?
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
I don't know how much movies cost in Argentina.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
A dollar. One person went to see it and it
was a dollar if.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
They were having a dollar theater.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
One hundred people saw it.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
That's true, the old penny theaters of Argentina. He ain't
heard of them.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
No, no, I mean they're not going to cry for
you in Argentina. And they're probably not going to see
Seana the Dad either.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Especially Madonna's.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, but you know, we both the all three of
us have talked about we enjoyed this film. What do
we think the the critics on Rotten Tomatoes. Thought, I
will tell you there are two hundred and twenty one
reviews as of today on Rotten Tomatoes from the critics.
So what percentage does this film come in at.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
It's like ninety one.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Ninety one, Yeah, from the critics.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Why that's a lot of praise.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
It was a darling, it was. And remember they got
a trilogy out of this shit. I somebody liked it.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I'm gonna say eighty two.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Brandon was right there, Wow, critics.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
That I remember it being hot. Now, that may have
been over time, I'm sure as people have caught on,
because again, if people loved it from the beginning, it
wouldn't have made just three millions. So yeah, but that's
the true I feel like that's the the tricky part
is people put in this ind I mean, Rotten Tomatoes
I don't even think existed then. But the fact that
people are catching it now in the past five, ten
(19:15):
whatever years is helps it because it's I mean, i'd
say it's a horror comedy class I mean it's there.
I think it's gotten. I mean, it's made a name.
It made a name for most of these guys and
so so yeah, I know. I'll be honest, I kind
of just shot in the dark because I think probably
when it come out, I feel like if rot Tomatoes existed,
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I could see like a seventy four, seventy six maybe, yeah,
but the fact that, like you know, it builds over,
which then makes me think if ninety I have a
feeling the audience score is lower though.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Okay, well, let's talk about that. There's two hundred and
fifty thousand plus reviews God on the popcorn meter rotten
to make. So for the tomato meter, what are the
average Joe thinking of Shannada Dead.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Seventy one.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
I'm gonna know, I'm gonna go down drop, but I'll say,
like eighty three.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
You both went in the wrong direction. It actually goes
up one percent to ninety three percent. W dang.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
That's definitely for people catching on through the.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Years universally loved more than I thought it was.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Yeah, me too, Yeah, I think high as numbers.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
I just remember buying my copy from Danger Zone Video
and I think it was Jesse. I can't remember it
was Brittany or Jesse who was in the store that
day said I hate this movie seriously. I did not
maybe that's what I'm basing.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Yeah, I didn't see that coming.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
But I do. I do have a copy of this
on DVD that I purchased from danger Zone Video here
in Mount Juliet, Tennessee, and somebody at the store told
me they hated the movie when I bought it.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
I I think it. It's a very I think it's
cleverly done, and it was very different back then, and
a lot of people have tried to kind of replicate
that to to not the to not the quality of
Shanna the Dead, I will say, and and I'm not
saying like you don't laugh, but I thought it was funnier.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I did too. I did too.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
I liked it, And a lot of the funny stuff
is sort of in sort of at the beginning and
when it first happens, like I always will remember, when
he's just walking, he's doing his routine, and the zombies
are there, but he's paying you no attention. Yeah he's
been He's like hey, I oh yeah, and you know,
he almost slips on the blood and the handprints. One
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thing that did make me laugh that and I remember
once I saw it again, I remember. But when they
it's it's essentially even though as far as they're concerned,
it's their sort of encounter because there's a woman in
the yard and and you know how it plays it
up because they're like, oh my god, she's so drull.
So they just start laughing. Yeah, and that that that
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makes me laugh.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah, there's some social commentary in the film where you know,
you harked on that scene where Sean goes into the
bodega or whatever and he's like, I just I'll owe you. Yeah,
the apocalypse is already hidden, but we're we're in such
zombie mode now with our cell phones and such. Like
the previous scenes, everybody's just like in as an actual
zombie state going about their day. Where Sean uh goes
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out of his flat, he goes around the corner and
he's walking the same path that he does day in
and day out to the bodega and then to work
without any real you know, human interaction and whatnot. And
then on the bus everybody's looking at their phone, not
paying attention to anything. And it's not till the apocalypse
actually happens where he's starting to see like, oh shit,
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something's going on around me. What the fuck's going on?
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Yeah, and this was twenty one years ago, twenty one
years before.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Showing imagine what yeah, imagine what you could do now, especially,
but you know, I always wondered, and I'm I was
very curious. Is when he goes in the first time,
he picks up a diet coke, looks at it, puts
it back, and gets a regular coke. The second time,
and it's the zombie time he picks up a regular
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coke and he's looking at something and he puts that
back and gets a diet coke? What is he looking
at him? That can?
Speaker 3 (23:37):
That's way more his analysis.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
I just thought it was so well. I'll be honest,
I guess because when I because he makes it a
point to look and switch. But I didn't even care
that he picked up whichever one. But I'm like, what
is he looking at that's making him not choose? And
I guess because I'm like, it's coke and diet coke,
Like what are we like it? I'm I'm just curious.
And then I think, is it expiration date? But why
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wouldn't he just go look at the other diet coke?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Yeah, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
I want to talk to Edgar. I want to talk
to Edgar Simon one of those two and say, what
could you have possibly been looking at? If you like
your diet coke, what's it matter? But anyway, I should
admit I turned it off after that, so I'm not
sure what happens. I was fed up. I was fed up.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
That seems on par for the course. Uh, with your
ability to do research.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
For this, how dare you? I watch all these.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Some other people that watched it and some love, some
didn't love are people on Letterbox. So I have some
reviews here from people. We're going to start with number
one Gizmo fan. That's a great name. They gave Sean
the Dead four and a half stars on Letterbox and
says the fact that the brutal murdering of that old
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man was in scene with Don't Stop Me Now by
Queen is utterly breathtaking, truly masterful work.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Yeah. There was a lot of the a lot of
the musical choices in this that I thought kind of
in and of themselves were pretty comical.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're good choices though.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yeah. Oh I agree. James on Letterbox gives it four
stars as well. Surprisingly works better for me from a
dramatic standpoint than a comedic one. It's still really funny,
but I'm also incredibly interest invested in Sean trying to
repair and come to grips with its relationships in the
midst of a zombie apocalypse. Tons of stellar scenes and
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impeccable direction makes this a blastery visit.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
I was kind of there. I'm kind of with him. Yeah,
my rewatching it like like in one sit in one
sit down. I actually, again, there are some funny parts,
but there actually is a lot of heart and emotion
in it that I don't think I would have given
it credit for based on just what I remember seeing
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when it first come out.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah, I would agree wholeheartedly. That's kind of how I
remembered this movie was that, oh, it was just a silly,
dumb zombie comedy thing, and then when I rewatched it
was kind of like, wow, there is there are some
really interesting themes that kind of kind of hit home
in this.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
I just remember that other one where he's Nick Frost
has a good one where he's going through the mail,
and the last one he's like going to ate out
your mom and he's like what and he has that look. Yeah,
I'm like this is so like he is. I he's
so ridiculous in this one. I like him. I haven't
seen him in a ton of stuff all outside of
Edgar Wright stuff, but I love how like some of
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the stuff he just would sneak in and the looks
he would give, and.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Just how like he does not want to do shit.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
No ever, especially if that other roommate asked him to.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Do it would be it would be really hard to
be friends with that guy.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Yeah, that was his first movie.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Nick Frost, Yeah, yeah, he was in. He'd done television,
but this was his first film. I will say, I'll
piggyback on what James was saying when he comes to
the dramatic standpoints in the film. I harken some of
those scenes in comparison to some of the scenes and
the songs actually and in The Apocalypse, where I went
into that movie thinking I was just gonna get a silly,
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you know, horror comedy spoof, when actually there's a lot
of you know, like like heart tugging moments throughout that movie,
as there is I think in Shawn the Dead as well. Yeah,
I highly recommend everybody to go see an in the
Apocalypse whenever they can. I'm moving on.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
How could we forget that Nick Frost was in fighting
with my family?
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Oh my god, he was.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah, he's the dad, right the brother? Was he the
brother or was he the dad?
Speaker 4 (27:54):
No, he was the dad because the brother was what's
his name? Yeah, he's I've seen him and some other
stuff too, but yeah, yeah, he was in it too.
In case anybody, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yeah, Dwayne Johnson has a cameo and.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
It is Oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I've seen fighting with my family.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Yeah, Nina Hetty, I had some good ones.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
I think I think we still have like fifteen or
years or so to go for that one.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Oh yeah, no, we'll be done.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah. Lauren on Letterbox three and a half stars, Sean
having self esteem issues and self doubt instead of fighting
zombies in the middle of a zombie attack is peak relatability.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
That's true. Yeah, and that probably speaks even more so
today than it did.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
It does absolutely uh. And then there's ray On Force,
who gave four stars as well. Sean of the Dead
used only one queen song and it's already a better
queen bio pick than Bohemian raps.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Hell yeah, hell yeah, is some funny uh. Bohemian Rhapsody.
Hate on the Shawn and the Dead Letterbox reviews.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Oh good, really good.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
They're probably British.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
There were some people that were saying like this was
this should have been Bohemian Rhapsody.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah. I purposely pulled out that uh that review strictly
for for Brandon's.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Thank You, Thank You.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
But it took it took a while, but I did
find one person who does not like the film, and
it's somebody named nohen h gave it two stars and
he says, or they say, I apologize in advance, but
I must be the most grumpy person alive because I
didn't find anything funny in this film.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Lame grumpy ass.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Yeah, I would like to know if Jesse or Britney.
I don't know who to accuse, but why they don't
like it.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
I don't remember, well you don't remember even who said it,
but I want to know. I want to. But also,
that's good. That's a good business. Hand someone a movie
you're gonna buy and say I didn't like it.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Here this well, you know, Brandon as an investor in
Dangers On Video, you might want to have a talk
with some of the employees.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Should yeah, I should said, hey, guys, you're supposed to
like everything. Yeah, lie, yeah, customer is always right.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Uh. It did win some awards. Uh. It won four
Fangoria chainsaw Awards, including Best Wide Release Film, Best Actor
for Signon Peg, Best Supporting Actor for Nick Frost, and
then Best Screenplay Written by Peg and right that we
talked about.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
That's a hell of award to win Best Wide Release.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
That's Liken the King run.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Yeah it is. Yeah, King of the World right there
for the Fangoria Chain saw. I don't I don't even
think they're real anymore, but.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yeah, they're still is it around? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Oh man? Wow, well, good for them Best Wide Relief.
That makes me think there's an award that says for
things that came out less and this came out six
hundred theaters really confused, but anyway, good for them.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah. Getting into some fun facts about the film, Shawn
the Dead famously kicks off what's become known as the
as the Cornetto Trilogy. It's actually the Three Flavors Corneto Trilogy,
which includes Hot Fuzz and the World's End along with
Shana Dead. The trilogy is so named because the films
share certain thematic concerns. They're all in the same way
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about men who have to learn to grow up and
move on with their lives, for example. And because corneto
is actually an ice cream snack that appears in all
three films. Oh so you may ask, how did that start? Well,
according to Edgar Wright, it's because he wants ada cornetto
ice cream to get over a hangover and thought it
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would be funny if Nick Frost's character Ed did the
same thing after a night of drinking. He says, it's
the weirdest thing you would want to eat at the
time in the morning. When I was in college, I
got very, very drunk once and I had a cornetto
in the morning, and I felt a lot better. So
it became my hangover cure, and it still is. And
this movie was shot over nine weeks between May and
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July of two thousand and three.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
And they say dairy's actually good for the hangover if
you drink a glass of milk the next morning.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
I think Shan of the Dead is my favorite of
the three, though.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
I would have to go back and watch the other two.
I remember really liking Hot Fuzz, and I remember liking
the World's End too, but not I don't know. I
would have to revisit. But I'm kind of I think
I'm with you on Shawn of the Dead's problem.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
I feel like Hot fuzz was good, but there was
something where you because you wanted that Shanna the Dead,
like like you wanted that energy again near though it's
a different kind of story and everything, but I want
to think and none of them are bad, but I
want to think it was Shann of the Dead and
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that World's In and then Hot Fuzzed. But that's like
a difference of like, you know, between maybe a star
or half a star. But I don't think it ever
quite got to that Shann of the Dead, which also
kind of makes sense because sometimes when you when you're
first exposed to it, that's what becomes kind of your favorite,
and everything else seems like, well, yeah, but they didn't
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do this, or well you know this, you know this
didn't work out, and oh, you know, because I think
Nick Frost, I think they're all in it. But Martin Freeman,
who shows his face in this, plays a much bigger
role in the next two, and he's become one of
my favorites. He's in a he was in a show
on FX called Breeders that I it's a britishman, but
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I absolutely love my wife and I'm watch all. I
think it was like three or four seasons. But and
then obviously you know, with the Hobbit and stuff like that.
But I really I've really come to like him. But
I saw him. Man, he's so young, like some of
these people still look like their kids. So besides Bill Knight,
the Martin Freeman's in this who also probably was not
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shown at all in any any public publicity stuff for trailers,
but still so.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
The movie was inspired by an episode of the TV
show Spaced that Nick, Edgar, and Simon were all a
part of. It's an episode called Art. Tim the character
played by Simon Pegg, is under the influence of amphetamines
and while playing Resident Evil too, he hallucinates that he's
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fighting off a zombie invasion, and after Art was filmed,
Edgar Wright pits the idea of a feature length zombie comedy,
and Peg and Frost were obviously inspired by the work
of George A. Romero director Not the Living Dad. The
Crazy is down of the Dead, and that's kind of
where the birth of Shawn the Day it came.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
From all of that's in like everything. Yeah, that DNA
is all over the place, I mean just spewing all over.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
His Sean's mother's name is Barbara, who was the character
and not the living dead, and the most One of
the most famous lines in movie history, let alone horror
movie history, is at the beginning where the boyfriend says,
they're coming to get you Barbara. Yeah, and he actually
delivers that line, I'm coming to get you Barbara to
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his mom on the phone in the film.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
I didn't even catch I didn't.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
I didn't catch that together. I didn't when you said
when you said Barbara, I remember from now I live
in Dead, but I didn't catch it. In watching Seanta Dead.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Nice nice little easter egg.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Yeah, nice nice touch there. Yep.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
George A. Romero was actually so impressed with the work
of on Shana the Dead that he asked uh Edgar
Wright and Simon Peg to do a cameo in his
two thousand film Landed the Dead.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's it's in Simon Pegg's filmography.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
I was like, huh oh yeah, yep. It's a quick
little cameo. There's a part where rich super rich people
are able to go into a photo booth and take
pictures with chained up zombies, and that's where that's the
scene they're in.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Wait a minute, when was that?
Speaker 2 (36:24):
I do believe Landa the Dead was two thousand and five.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Oh okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
And when asked by an interviewer why they chose to
have slow moving zombies instead of fast moving zombies like
you see in like twenty one twenty eight days, Simon
Pegg simply replied, because death is not an energy drink. Hmm.
Take that for what you think.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
And well, one, that's a great answer, but two that
would like half that movie would not work if we're
at full pace because the humans aren't at full pace.
So so that's just you know, just technically wouldn't work anyway.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
But the movie lasted about three minutes.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Yeah, while he goes to find that other diet coke
or coke, he'd be dead.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
But I love her like that, like that the homeless
Guy's like, oh I saw it, man, I couldn't even
I couldn't even pay for my fucking drink, Like having
this like mid conversation thing while everyone is clearly the
world's gone to shit, but I love it. It's that's
the part of the brilliance.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Uh. I mentioned the show space that Peg frosted right
were all about. Most of the zombie extras were fans
of that show that were recruited through the spaced out
fan website that the show has.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Oh nice, so that some budgets.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Yeah it did.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Yeah. Uh supposedly he paid or Simon Peg or the
production paid all of the non zombie extras a dollar
a day and tribute to uh George A. Romero playing
are paying a dollar to each zombie extra and not
as a living dead.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
How about that? So they're really they're they're making some
art here. They are they are connecting yea to their
to their forfeit.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
And they're also I don't think that is the pay skill,
so that might be legal.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
It sounds cool, but.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
I don't want a dollar a day.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Like I've been an extra in a
number of films back in the day, and even in
the nineties I got paid more than a dollar a day.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Yeah. I imagine them giving them a dollar well you
know when George Romero did this and even a dollar
and I just remember them being like, fuck you. I
want my money.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Quentin Tarantino actually dubbed this as one of his top
twenty movies of all time.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Really yeah, that kind of sid Wait yeah, I say,
with his with his unique taste, I can kind of
see him ranking this pretty high. Yeah, that seems more
top which is saying a lot. But he's I don't
know if you guys know this, Quentin Tarantino watches a
lot of movies. I think. Yeah, so that's saying that's
saying something.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Yeah. In March of twenty eleven, this movie was voted
by BBC Radio One and BBC Radio one Extra listeners
as their second favorite movie of all time. Wow, film,
do you think out Shot of the Dead.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
As the number one? Like not horror comics number one movie? All?
Speaker 2 (39:33):
It is not a British film, It's an American film.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
Oh well, now you've really This was in twenty eleven.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Yeah, it was not Appenheimer.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Yeah, Titanic, Castle Blanca.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Shawshank Redemption.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
That was my next one.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Yeah, we would have gotten there.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yep. The working title, an eventual title for Shawn the
Dead was not what we originally had. The title began
as what Edgar Edgar Wright describes as a one page
word document that sketched out the general idea of the movie,
and it was then called tea Time of the Dead.
(40:18):
Of that I would like the Time of the Dead.
So if anybody thinks of rebooting this film, I don't
think that's ever gonna happen. Uh. Simon Pegg said that
him and director Edgar Wright would be incensed if the
film was ever rebooted, mainly because it's so special to
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them due to its many autobiographical elements. For example, in
real life, Peg and Nick Frost were very attached to
the regular pub, the Shepherds and Highgates so much that
Wright would have difficulties to take them anywhere else for
a change.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
So there's a little bit of bleeding over. Yeah, I could,
I could see that, But I think it's also one
of the those cases of why would you want to
reboot this because you're never going to capture the same,
the same essence of what made this movie great and
it was like the people involved, and it's just no point.
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Anything less would be, anything new would be a lesser
imitation of it.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
I feel like British movies have don't get remade and
rebooted quite like American movies do, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Just get remade by American companies.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
Right, But then but a lot of times, like it's
it's more of like the like the Ring and Regoo
like sometimes they're trying to americanize it, which is the
case they did with four Weddings and a Funeral for instance.
But I also kind of feel like, you know, Sean
of the Dead was not a hit when it came out. Yeah,
so now granted you've gained you know, you've gained an
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audience cult classic situation, but from Sean of the Dead
till now, the zombie game genre has changed too. Yeah,
and so and as we were talking about at the
top of this, a lot of things try to imitate
Sean of the Dead. So you trying to reboot it,
I feel like it's just going to be that's even
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a bigger waste than trying to implement some of the
things that Edgar and Simon and all those guys did.
But yeah, it's also very personal.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
So yeah, sometimes you just have to acknowledge you had
lightning in a bottle.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
That's right, that's right, yep. While they did with Lantern.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Yeah, while they were going around pitching the movie to production, companies.
There was a production company that shown interest in it,
but then that company wanted to start cutting back the
budget to the film, which basically caused Right and Simon
Peg to walk away. And Right was so dead set
on getting this movie made that he held off on
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taking any other directing jobs, especially on television, because that
would have taken more time from him to be able
to give to the film. And in fact, during this
he was just rapidly going broke and had no money.
So basically Simon Pegg pretty much floated Edgar Wright for
a while until they were able to get you know,
financing for the film. And according to Edgar Wright, Simon
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Pegg has still yet allowed him to pay him back
any of the money that he borrowed.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
And that's uh, did a lot for both of them.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
So yeah, but that's very nice.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
That's a dude right there.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
That is, Yeah, that's a dude. I guess my question is,
what the fuck is Nick Frost doing?
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Then? Nick fo He's like he's like that, He's like
that roommate he is in real life.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
That is that is exactly because he's got Harry Potter
money now and from what I understand, JK Rowling is
a very sweet woman, and so I just don't understand
why he can't, why he can't, why he can't chip
in now.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Well, also, he's got you know, a DreamWorks movie, now money,
now with.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
How to True, he's at least in the next two.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
Yeah, and he's he's got the snow White and the
Huntsman too.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
Oh, that's right, that's right, God, DreamWorks and Disney money.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Hey. He obviously he's just holding he's holding it to himself.
Speaker 4 (44:08):
Yeah, I guess, so selfish bastard.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
None for Edgar Wright.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
None.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Uh. If you wanted a sequel to uh Shawn the Dead,
it's not happening. They did consider a sequel that would
replace the zombies with another monster, but decided against it
as they were pleased with this movie as a standalone
product and thought too many characters died to continue the story,
and the proposed title was going to be from Dust
(44:35):
till Sean.
Speaker 4 (44:37):
Thank you No see the titles. The titles nice, But
I think doing the trilogy that they did was a
better way of kind of bringing it together than any
kind of Sewan and Sean of the Dead too. But
that is a that's a that's a fun title. I'll
give you that.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yeah, I will say that From Dust Till Sean does
live inside the MCU. Excuse me, there is a title,
I mean, excuse me a movie mocked up movie poster
for from From Dust Till Sean that is found in
Spider Man Into the Spider Verse. Oh okay, little easter egg.
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There yea.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
A deep couch.
Speaker 4 (45:20):
Really yeah, that's really digging in there now.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
One of my favorite scenes in the whole film is
where the zombie apocalypse is first happening and Sean and
Ed are warding off zombies by throwing LP or vinyl
records at them. Yes, they list many artists, but they
could only get two artists to sign off allowing their
actual albums to be shown. One was the British new
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wave band New Order and the other was shaw Day herself.
That right, that is that is correct? I thought, you know,
the they mentioned Prince Obviously they had purple Rain, Sean
Sign of the Time. I almost said Sean at the Time,
Some of the Times, and the Batman's Batman Soundtract, which
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is eventually what they end up throwing at at the zombies,
trying to kill them with the Batman soundtract. So my
question is to you your favorite artists, which of their
albums are you willing to give up to save your life.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
I don't know that I have a favorite artist to
begin with.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
That's that.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
I would say the third Melene and the Sons of
Disaster album was a pretty clear departure from the first
two that I didn't enjoy that much.
Speaker 4 (46:40):
You know what that does remind me because there's a
and I don't know the name of it, but it's
maybe the third or fourth I don't know one of
Mumford's son's albums, and it's not a good one.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
And I like some of the songs, but not all
of them. And I probably would have done that one
or we were talking about this before we started, but
I really liked Sugar Ray Fly when I was younger,
but that CD none of it sounded like that one.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
Or that was pretty deceiving if you were a kid
that just heard Fly and thought that's what I'm getting.
The rest of that album is like some sort of
like contorted metal.
Speaker 4 (47:22):
Yeah, or the one that had a smash mouth. There
was one that walking on the Sun. The rest of
that album was not very good. But then I thought
the other one that had all Star on it, I
don't remember liking that. I'll just throw all the smash
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mouths CDs at them and one of those, one of
those Mumford and Sun CDs and that Sugar Ray one.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
There we go.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
Yeah, I would go with a different Prints album because
I don't mind Batman. I would probably do the Graffiti
Bridge soundtracked, which was a bad movie and an okay album,
and then probably Rave Against the Joy Fantastic, which is
a not good Prince album at all that features Sheryl
Crow on it, of all people.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
Oh, how about that.
Speaker 4 (48:16):
I wouldn't give anything, okay.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Well, Sean of the Dead is a full on comedy.
Uh is full of comedy laden character deaths, but one
particular death actually caused real grief, and that is the
death of Barbara, Sean's mother. According to Edgar Wright and
Simon Peg, Peg reacted to the idea of Barbara dying
(48:41):
as if his own mother was being killed, and after
the death scene was filmed, Peg and Frost both cried
real tears.
Speaker 3 (48:50):
Man, Wow, that's you know what. Yeah, this sounds pretty
personal to Simon.
Speaker 4 (48:55):
Yeah, I see why we don't want to just start Nobody,
Nobody and Sean will be, Ryan Gosling.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
Yeah, Glenn Powell.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
Yeah. Speaking of people who could have been in the film,
I do have one last note, and that's a could have,
would have, should have And it's about Barbara. Uh somebody
was offered the role of Barbara but declined.
Speaker 4 (49:18):
It is easy Judy Dinch.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
Helen Mirren, Helen Mirren exactly.
Speaker 4 (49:25):
Oh wow, Maggie Smith one of them.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
All right, you had like a one in five shot again, right, yeah,
for sure, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
Uh So before we get out of here, any any
favorite scenes or quotes we want to touch base on
before we go.
Speaker 3 (49:40):
I think we've already touched on him. For me, I
do like the scene where David gets pulled out of
the pub and they start like ripping his yeah, and
then his girlfriend is like still like I'm going to
open the door, I'm gonna come save you, and I'm
just like it reminded me of that scene from what
was it The Watch where he's like fe oh yeah,
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that's gone. Yeah, that's what it's like. You are probably
like he's gone.
Speaker 4 (50:06):
But I like and I like the I like how
it kind of comes full circle at the end where
he goes in into playing video games and you just
see Nick Fross just slowly like try to bite his arm.
Hey hey, but that like that sums up basically their fight.
I gotta say, I you talked about you said Glenn Powell. Well,
(50:27):
Glenn Powell is in Edgar Wright's new film, which is
a remake of Themaking which is which is also an
Arnold movie.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
How about that? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (50:36):
Did you ever see that?
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Stephen King film is the BRIT's favorite film. According to
Paul and.
Speaker 4 (50:43):
Bingo Jim Robbins.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
We really didn't mention the friends of Sean and the girlfriend,
but that the girlfriend of the the guy who's pulled apart,
she's basically a cup in the film because she unveils
or or reveals that, you know, she knows that her
boyfriend is in love with uh Sean's ex girlfriend and
(51:07):
she was just along for the ride. Anyway.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
Yeah, there's layers to this film. Yeah, there's depth.
Speaker 4 (51:12):
There really is more to it than I think you
give credit for, which I mean when I saw it,
I was like seventeen, so you know, I was just
hoping there were boobies.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Yeah, uh, there's not. This is not twenty eight years
later where there's plenty of boobies.
Speaker 4 (51:28):
Oh well, yeah, there's plenty of cock too.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
I heard there is I heard of cock.
Speaker 3 (51:33):
Yeah, I heard the new one should be called twenty
eight inches.
Speaker 4 (51:37):
Yeah it's uh yeah, Thor lost his hammer. It's between
those dudes legs assure you.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
Uh, I don't know how to segue, so let's uh
mount rushmore time. Uh my favorite A favorite British films
of all time.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
Mine's pretty easy. I go Lawrence of a Ray nineteen seventeen,
Dunkirk and Gosford Park.
Speaker 4 (52:05):
Yeah, okay, mine was Mine was kind of tough because
there's a lot, and honestly, I would I would easily
probably change out some of them. But funny enough, Dunkirk
in nineteen seventeen or two of mine, because I just
think they're some of the best war films and best
films that has been done. And you're talking about Sam
Mendez and Noel Lindham, so I couldn't look past that.
(52:28):
I kind of had a little trouble with the last
little bit. I have Skyfall. Okay, I think it's a
British film because it's James Bond, and honestly, I'm I
would switch out either one, but I really have come to.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Really like m.
Speaker 3 (52:46):
Bruges, see I haven't watched it yet.
Speaker 4 (52:48):
And Atonement I enjoyed. I like those a lot, But
like I said, there's some other ones that obviously, I mean,
you're talking about all these British films, but those are
those of my faves.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
I had two honorable mentions one Snatch, big fan of
that movie, and then Patting Team two.
Speaker 4 (53:09):
Oh yeah, I almost put I almost put that, that's right.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
Yeah. But my four first and foremost is Trained Spotting.
Absolutely love that fucking movie, uh, twenty eight days later.
And then I have two I don't think maybe either
one of you may be heard of or seen. One
is called How to Have Sex. It's a twenty twenty
three film about this group of girls who go on
on holiday yeah and try, and one of them is
(53:37):
basically trying to lose their virginity. I just enjoy that film.
Speaker 4 (53:40):
Yeah, I do know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
And then lastly is Nil by Mouth, which is from
nineteen ninety seven and it was Gary Oldman's directorial debut.
It is a very heavy and somewhat depressing film about
domestic abuse.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
Well, oh man, you had me at Gary Oldman. But yeah,
lost me a heavy domestic abuse.
Speaker 2 (54:03):
Yeah it could. Yeah, it's the only film he's ever directed. Wow.
Speaker 3 (54:08):
He he did that and was like, no, I can't
ain't doing it?
Speaker 2 (54:13):
Yeah yeah, So yeah, that's all I have for SHAWNA
the Dead, unless, gentlemen, we have something else we'd like
to add before we get out of here.
Speaker 3 (54:21):
All clear on my end?
Speaker 4 (54:22):
Me too.
Speaker 2 (54:23):
We are up against the clock. So hey, check us
out on Nashville and Movie Database our dispatch where you
can find all of our work. I mean, Nashville Movie
Database sounds pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (54:36):
That's what brand is.
Speaker 2 (54:37):
We should get on that.
Speaker 3 (54:38):
That's what Brandon called it. For the first six months
it was open.
Speaker 2 (54:41):
Yeah. Oh so I don't feel so bad then.
Speaker 3 (54:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (54:44):
Most importantly, subscribe to Drinking with wherever you get your
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Speaker 3 (55:00):
At Stony Keeley and at Sobrosnetwork Sobrosnetwork dot com.
Speaker 4 (55:05):
And that's sir Brandon v On Twitter, Sir Brandon on
Letterbox and of course everything on Nashville mooviedispatch dot substack
dot com.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
You can find me on x at mc underscore Cast
seventy five, letterbox at simply Stephen mccash. I do want
to put a plug in. We will be doing a
live stream once again for a Halloween episode coming up.
Keep your eyes in the ears posted wherever you are
on social media with the Sobros Network and such. I
will go ahead and spoil it. We're doing Saw. Saw
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is turning twenty one years twenty one years old this year.
Speaker 3 (55:39):
Can't believe it.
Speaker 2 (55:40):
I'm so excited to talk about this film. But cheer, yeah,
cheers to another episode of Drinking with where we have
had explored the films that have come of age. Just
like the fine wine. We've raised our glasses to movies
turning twenty one where we've laughed, reminisced, and maybe shed
a tear. Two Well Simon Peg did over this timeless classic.
So until next time, where your drinks be cold, your
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conversation is lively, and your movie nights unforgettable. Drink responsibly
and remember age is just a number, but great films
are forever and we'll see you next time, because I
have to return some videotapes
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