September 8, 2025 • 44 mins
Football season is upon us, and there's no better time to relive one of the most popular football films of all time (even though it's little more than propaganda for Notre Dame). Brandon and Stoney discuss 1993's Rudy on this episode of The Movie Review Rewind Podcast.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Flipping back the calendar to highlight Yesteryear's finess while exploring
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Review Rewind Podcast on Nashville Movie Dispatch. Welcome back for
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another episode of the Movie Review Rewind podcast right here
on the Nashville Movie Dispatch. It's September. Fall is approaching.
It's not here yet, but it's approaching. Football season is underway.
There's been a couple of weeks of college football at
this point in the season. It is one of my
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favorite times a year. And we are going to talk
about a classic quote unquote classic today Rudy from nineteen
ninety three.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Well, I think I should have written that down, but
I'm pretty sure, pretty sure it is nineteen ninety three.
I'm Stony Keeley, the EIC at Sobros. Network, joined as
usual by my co host for the Movie Review Rewind podcast.
He is a board member on the Music City Film
Critics Association, a member of the Southeastern Film Critics Association.
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Our resident film critic, mister big shot Brandon Vick Brandon,
how you doing today? My man?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Good? I almost man, what a shocker that huge Texas
Longhorn Upst I'm still reeling from it.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yes, yes, this is uh wow live. Obviously we do
not record these episodes months and then va.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Actually I love fall Weather.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
The the Fresno States off to a good story.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yeah, they are, Oh my god, go Huskies. Ummm. I
think if if if you say sports underdog movie, sportsman,
let me sports movie. Yeah, I think people would say Hoosiers.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
And they're both written or directed by the same people.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Oh are they? I think it's written. I don't think
that's the same director.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I mean, I could have looked that up. Yeah, we
I just no need. I'm gonna be honest and upfront
with you guys right from the get go.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Don't tell them.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
But I just don't think this is a good movie
at all iteming qualities.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Okay, I was gonna say, you know, I'm bad about
deleting texts, but I should have saved yours because I
literally hit play and I was two minutes in when
you sent me a thing that which I'll let you
tell everybody what you basically said, but I I'm happy
to hear because I will tell you there are parts
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that it's still a kind of gets to me, even
though it's very melodramatic and there. I don't even know
if it's a good movie, but that underdog spirit is
still there. It's still intact. And I'll be honest, when
they start chanting his name at the end, it's it's
very sweet.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
We're going to get into all that. Yeah, I just research.
Our crack production team is on it. David Anspa, I
think is how you pronounce it? Did direct Rudy and oh?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
He did do both?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Okay, also did Fresh Horses. Okay, Molly Ringwald movie nineteen
eighty eight, Moonlight and Valentino. Gwyneth Paltrow is in that
Whoopee Goldberg and John bon Jovie, Oh, Wise girls, Mira Sorvino,
Mariah Carey, so enough said the Game of their Lives?
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I never heard of that.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Did it end with Rudy? I'm confused?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
And Little Red Wagon twenty twelve?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Never I don't know what that is either.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, so I mean this kind of you want to
talk about lightning in a bottle? I guess. So Hoosiers
and Rooting, Yeah, two quite famous films. I've never seen Hoosiers,
but maybe i'll. I'll it's really good, but I can
check it out.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Well, you know, who's in it.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Gene Hackeman.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
That's right, That's all you need to.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Know, the legendary Gene Hackman.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
But yeah, and I think I would associate this is
like one of the top sports underdog movies. But I'll
be honest, I don't I remember it being better. Yeah,
when I was younger, I could see that, but it's
also where I guess now and of course, you know,
I mean, I'm almost you know, it'll be forty soon,
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and so like it's kind of like the the story telling,
the story arc of it is not that interesting. It's
very plain. It's it really doesn't have that much heart.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I was surprised by that for an.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Underdog story and the character of Rudi himself. I was
kind of surprised because I thought, for sure there was
more heart in this. But they're really is it. I
would say maybe once he finally gets to university and
he kind of keeps checking and like they've switched coaches,
you know, kind of that last thirty minutes, which is
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also when the thing. But like, I don't know, like
what they try to do with the family aspect of it,
which I mean, some of it works, some of it doesn't,
especially I don't think the brother Frank is I don't
know that didn't really like get me going. I think
the things that with him and his father kind of
meant a little more, and the scenes that they had
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with the late great ned Baby. But I but yeah,
and then it's I'm the part where like he talks
to the priest so he goes to that one school
to get into there, but like the interactions like within
like his grades, but also trying to make it on
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the team, so he's gonna be on like the groundskeeping.
And then like I think the guy is supposed to
be Joe Paterno or a look alike who's the coach
of Notre Dame back in the seventies. How easy their
conversation is, but it also doesn't really connect in a
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coherent way of like he's not doing what we love
your heart, you can't dress, you'll never play, Okay, maybe
this once, and then it takes all of the players
to say, hey, he needs to play in my spot.
And even then, yeah, he doesn't really get to play
except to four or five seconds. So he's so good
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that he he's just not going to really play.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, well he's just too small, too small, he's gonna.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Get great heart though he's got a lot of heart.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Wish wish I could put your heart in some of
my other player's body. I do.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
We do see him playing in practice and stuff, so
we know he doesn't understand football.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah. Yeah, I felt like this was propaganda for Notre
Dame fans. It's like, I feel like, if you want
to become a Notre Dame fan, you have to be
able to recite this movie from heart kind of deal.
So like I can understand, like you probably walk into
any house in South Bend, Indiana and they've got like
rudy movie posters on the wall.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah I bet Sean Aston goes around and makes a killing.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah, probably. I I just it felt like we were
spoon fed plot points, like we got this job at
the steel mill. This is what you're going to do
your whole life.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
So you got a best friend named Pete, do you?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah? Well, so long Pete, Damn, so long Pete. You've
got this. You know you can't you're too small to
play football. Let's let's hammer it in the audience's mind.
Let's make sure that they know this guy's facing a
life at the steel right and he's too small, and
he's too stupid to keep good grades.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
His family thinks this is his only job you should want.
You can't get into university.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
It just feels like there's so much that's like they
don't actually set up the plot points with any real emotion.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
They just tell you very true. They just tell you
very true.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
You're you're never gonna dress.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, okay, Well, and they say it over and over
like you're right that that's a good way. And and
I think that's really I think that's kind of with
what with what I'm saying about. I thought there was
more heart in this. Yeah, A lot of it is
just a like we're gonna say it here here, here, here,
and here we're gonna show how small he is because
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we're gonna cast these huge I mean, I don't even
think half of them should have even been in college.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, probably not.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I think they were in their fifties, pro wrestlers. Yeah,
I think they were on American Gladiators after it went
off the air, And so yeah, that part is it
is very true. And I do agree, like I see
why Notre Dame let them do that movie, because let
me tell you that if well, if you if you
don't watch that movie and thank god, this is the
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best place, the best place on earth. What are we
doing here?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
How much they love everybodysh Yeah. Rudy Rudiger said in
an interview later on that Notre Dame was quite difficult
to work with. Oh but he said it in a
good way. Well he did go, which is kind.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Of like are we still protecting the house that Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
So he said that they were very particular about how
the university was portrayed, And as soon as he said that,
I was just kind of like, oh, yeah, this is
propaganda for Notre Dame. They clearly had to say and
how the story was told, how the university was portrayed,
because it does kind of feel like it feels like
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a commercial for the for the school. At times it's like, come,
you know, be a part of look at this great history,
this great underdog story. Well it how good everybody involved
with this?
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I mean it's painted as a place of worship.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, yeah, I mean absolutely so. It pays homage to
Notre Dame as if it was like written and directed
by a fan. I don't know, I could have I
should have.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Looked that up too, maybe graduated from there.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, maybe he did. Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah, I mean it is true. I will say I
think towards the end it still sort of works because
I think and a lot of it might be to
the credit of Sean Aston. But at the same time,
it did feel lackluster. It does. It does kind of
ring a little, a little hollowed watching it after I
don't I don't even know the last time I've watched
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that movie. Yeah, and the fact that I saw at
Jon Favreau and Vince Vaughn.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Dude, that's I remember.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
I remember Favreau, but I had no idea Vince Vaughn
was in that movie.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I heard the voice from the first time we see
his character, and I stopped, like what I was doing.
I was working, I was watching film while it was
going on football tape, writing about a player, and I
heard the voice and I just like immediately grabbed the
remote and paused it, looked up and I was like,
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that doesn't Is that Vince Vaughn.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
And he's credited as Vincent.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, And so I looked at the cast and sure enough, fat,
that is Vince Vaughn. That's crazy, And that's why I
love it.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Like even when you say like they have to build
towards this thing. Also, I really like Charles S. Stutton.
He was the groundskeeper. That was kind of letting. I
actually sometimes I thought he's the most believable part of
any part of the movie.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I think.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
So I did, like how if he dressed. Everybody was
clearing their schedule to make sure they're there, and Charles
Stutton's character does. And let me tell you, as soon
as he makes that tackle, they show him clapping and
he immediately leaves.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, it was so poetic.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yeah, well he wants to beat that fucking traffic for that.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah. I mean that's a big stadium on game. Yeah. Yeah.
So that was apparently like one of the few details
of the story that was actually true, by the way,
because I had a good relationship he had with the
ground relationship with the grounds.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I thought I the carried all because apparently that never happened.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
No, he was, he was carried. Well we'll get into
that later. Yeah, okay, but the groundskeeper was a yeah,
and I think you're right. I think there is an
element of heart there from him and that that part
of the movie. I felt like the score in this
was so sappy. I mean, to me, like I.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Think sometimes I don't think it changed.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
It just it felt like a Hallmark movie at times,
and I'm just I'm watching it, like I called it
Disney coded drivel because it feels like, I mean, I
don't know, I mean, this probably is a movie that
kids would watch and love, and I don't know, maybe
at a young age this kind of makes you fall
in love with the game of football. Then I'm not
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gonna fault you for that, but it just felt too
easy to me, too predictable.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
It is. It's and you know, a lot of it
is rather lazy, like like now that we're in what
twenty something years later, it does look like, I mean,
I'm shocked Disney didn't do this one. It does very
much feel like it as in, like, you know, there's
this there's there's no gray in here. It's a he's
hard working, he's great, he's told he's never gonna do
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it because of his size, and then all these all
these other guys and like, let me tell you, you
want to talk about having no emotion whatsoever, Vince Vaughan
when you're in that huddle, Yeah, hey, come on, we
gotta do it for Rudy, Like whoa ready to go God, Vincent,
calm down.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
The critics consensus on this from Rotten Tomatoes. Though undeniably
sentimental and predictable, Rudy succeeds with an uplifting spirit and determination.
I think uplifting is probably the best word that I'm
willing to go for this. Like, if you call it uplifting,
I can. I can meet you there. I do think
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it's predictable, Oh yeah, I do feel like it's a
little a little too linear and a little too it's
very cliche positive cliched, Yeah, painted in a very certain light.
I don't feel like there's a lot of friction in
the story here. What they want you to believe that
this is, you know, an against all odds impossible scenario,
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But I don't think you ever really feel that in
this film.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
You're right. And what's weird is it took all of
these players to basically say they're not going to play,
and he still only played seven seconds. Yeah, Like I
know the dream was just to kind of dress and
be on this lines, Like I get it, But the
whole thing is like, oh, you know what, that's great,
And I'm sure I don't know if he actually made
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the last tackle or whatever, but uplifting I get, and
I do think you take the sport of football. Yeah,
and even when it's done in a pretty bland way
like Rudy is, I think there's something about it of
where you still you can still get the audience to
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participate in rooting for him.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yes, And I.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Think that's where I kind of fall, especially in the
last thirty minutes, is you're happy for that person because oh,
dreams do still come true? Now? How we get there
was very different than what I initially imagined when I
saw it.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
However, many years well, I do think I landed on
a two two out of five for this, and what
I did give the film credit for was a sort
of celebration of not necessarily the sport of football itself,
but a celebration of the pageantry the tradition of college football.
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I think the film does do a good job of
speaking to the loyalty and the community that you do
have in a strong college football fan base. I know,
like Notre Dame fans or a tight knit family Alabama fans,
Tennessee fans.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
All that like take pride in it.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, and that is something that I do think reflects
well in the movie because it's all about Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah. Well, and the thing is, and what I think
is really kind of glossed over, even though they do
mention it at the end, is that he's going to college,
which is not which is uncommon or at least uncommon
in his family. That's not the goals that anybody had set.
So but that's just kind of glossed over because it's
all about just getting into the football, which is the
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only reason why he tried to get the grades he could.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah, and I do think it's a pretty it's a
pretty easy watch. I mean it's it's one like you
could have in the background.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I mean I watched it, but yeah, you're not.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I do think I will. I do think I will
be giving my DVD copy back to danger Zone Video.
So if you're looking for a DVD copy of it,
go out to Mount Juliet.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I wouldn't watch it again, Yeah, I'm not gonna. I
think I'll just remember that Rudy chant and be.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Like, OK, yeah, I'm this is not one that I
think I need in my collection.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I wouldn't watch it around this time now. I wouldn't
try to watch others watch little Giants.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Little Giants.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Yeah, so would you say that's uplifting, that's an underdog story.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Well, I haven't watched it since I was a child.
You should maybe we should revisit it. Maybe that can be.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Next year, so better writing. You should hear the score
on that one.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
All right, all right? What did you think about Sean
Astons as Rudy. It's fine, it's fine. Yeah. I thought
it's kind.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Of I don't think he's a problem.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
No. I And and really like I caught myself thinking
really talented actor that I think like shows up in
the Lord of the Rings movies. I thought he was
funny in fifty First Dates. Yeah, a little bit h yeah,
a little bit of comedic range there. And like having
seen some of his later work, going back and revisiting Rudy,
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it was kind of like, you know what, good for
him that he has this film. Yeah, Like he's forever
gonna be Rudy. Yeah, but it's it's kind of like,
you know what, that's a guy that I think is
still been consistent enough throughout the years that like he
deserves that place in Hollywood.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Well, I kind of feel like the Goonies, Yeah, Rudy
and the Lord of the Rings is pretty good. He
did all right? Yeah, he did all right?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, but yeah, no, I I there's there's something else
in his filmography that he popped up in recently.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Is it before Rooting? He's in love hurts Happen where
some of the goony people got back together and actually
his scene is probably the best scene. But yeah, I
mean he's fine. I don't even know if that. I
I feel like the writing is what lets them down,
and the storytelling just in general, Like I feel like
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everything is such done on such like a and just
such the most conventional movie you could do. But hey,
it has football and you've probably heard of Notre Dame. Yeah,
and that's it, Like that's all they felt like they needed.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
He's Bob and stranger things. Oh my god, how how
can we forget you? I loved him and Bob I
did too.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Okay, now you're at that to what the other stuff?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Yeah, go retire, That's what I'm saying. Like, good for
Like I'm glad you've got that. Like now you're you're
gonna be remembered in film history, Sean Aston, Like, good
for you. I don't like this movie, but yeah, kind
of deal.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
I'd say, gooney, he probably was already there with goonies. Yeah,
to be an all fair and then a whole new
let me tell you something, I bet most the fans
Lord of the Rings probably never even heard of Rudy. Yeah,
so he's got he's got it across the board. He's
got it across the board.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
So let's get into some of the fun real life stuff. Yeah,
because this is I think this is where are.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
You about to tell me Rudy never went to Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Rudy does not exist. He's completely fictional. Uh, this is
where I think the conversation gets gets interesting because there
is the sack really happened that oh he got in
the game. The sack really happened. But there is a
popular conspiracy theory that Rudy was actually offside, actually lined
up offside, And if you go back and watch the
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archive footage, it's really hard to tell. But I think
if you like zoom in, it looks like, yeah, he's
actually probably lined up offside.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
He should have never fucking played football.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Which is like, this is a pretty big moment that
your your university, your program has turned into this, like and.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Now that team can bitch now because like what you've done.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I don't know if you would call this. I mean,
it's a part of the grand mythology of Notre Dame.
Now is the Rudy Rudiger play. And to think like
the whole thing should have been he should.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Have had a flag throat never have happened.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Now, I don't know that this was rooted. The origin
of this claim is from the Georgia Tech fan base.
Was the team that they.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Were, because there was like twenty four to three when
he went in.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah, but there is some like historical bad blood between
the two fan bases because Georgia Tech says Rudy was
off sides, and like I went back and found the footage.
You can find the play on YouTube black and white.
It's you know, grainy and blurry, but you, I mean,
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I look at I'm like, yeah, I think he is
off sides on this play. So I think so, I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
I mean in the seventies, he's pretty young.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
So there's a YouTube channel called dose leprechauns Notre Dame
fan channel. Okay, they posted a clip of the video
or a clip of the play, and their caption just
says Georgia Tech likes to claim that Rudy was offsides,
off sides or not. Your quarterback got sacked by a
five foot nothing, one hundred and pound walk on with
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barely a spec of athletic ability. If that's not college football,
I don't know what is. Oh, that is some some
real fan base to fan base hatred. Yes, that's uh.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Also that I've that it's kind of hurtful towards Rudy.
It is, but I think has talent.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
So I started I started digging into this a little
bit because I had heard through the grapevine. You know,
it's like Rudy was offsides and that's not even real,
that's not even there is kind of an attitude towards Rudy,
like the real life Rudy that's like this movie makes
you look like something you're not. Oh and and it
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sounds like there are a lot of I went and
watched Red listen to a bunch of old player interviews
that are kind of like, h yeah, it was a
fun moment, like we were happy for the guy. Oh,
it wasn't some big thing where.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Like they didn't know, they didn't turn in their jerseys,
that did.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Not happen, and demand that did not happen, so Rudy
Rudiger himself told Sports Illustrated that the film is about
ninety two percent accurate, which a lot of people a
lot of people have called bullshit. That's the same interview
where he's saying Notre Dame was kind of difficult to
work with, but he acknowledged that the scene the jersey
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thing is like a huge sticking point with the players
and and the coach too, Divine. I can't remember is
Dan Divine. I don't remember what his first name was,
but that scene was completely fabricated. And in this interview
with Sports Illustrated, Rudy tells them, well, the scene where
they lay the jerseys on coach Divine's desk was quote embellishment,
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a nice way of saying, we just made it up
to help the story. And he was kind of talking like, well,
you know, like it's Hollywood, They've got to spruce it
up to do it. And I'm like, but it's still
nine accurate.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
According to Rupe, well, and that's why I like, you know,
he keeps checking the list and then the other guys
are like, oh man, sorry, Rudy, and then that I
think he's one of the captains. He's like, it ain't
it just ain't right. And I'm like, come on, guys,
or at least at least make it believable.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, So I mentioned it being a sticking point. Divine
himself has said publicly if any player had put their
jersey down on my desk, they never would have seen it. Again,
that's what I mean.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
That's but I think that's what you're saying, like they're
painting these people is in like, well, I can't let them,
and then it comes in. It's like oh and but
even then, even to their even in the scenes that
you're presented, it's not like it changed the game. Yeah,
because you know, I mean, I get it. It's all
about the guy just getting on the field, I understand.
But I just love how even in this underdog story
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with his embellishments, it still isn't one of those like,
oh my god, like do you believe in miracles? Yeah,
I mean it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
So and again there are players that like, when this
thing comes up, there's a there's a montage on YouTube
of like all these all these players being asked about
that particular scene, because I mean, it is a pretty
powerful scene in the movie and guys are just kind
of laughing at it. They're just like, yeah, that didn't happen.
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And there's one quote I didn't jot down the particular
player because their names weren't up on the screen that
just said, uh nah, we worked too hard for those
varsity jerseys, and I'm not getting rid of it.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
That's the real spirit of college football.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
And then in twenty ten, Joe Montana himself went on
The Dan Patrick.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Show and was he wearing his sketchers He.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Might have been his feet. He practically took a needle
to the balloon of Rudy Oh, saying it's a movie,
remember not all that's true, adding the crowd wasn't chanting,
nobody threw in their jersey, saying he did get into
the game, and he did get carried off the field.
(26:39):
But he added that they tried to get all of
the seniors in the game on the final home game
of the season. It was a thing where like, you're
a senior, this is your last home game. It wasn't
just a rooti It was like everybody got out there
and then he says, and then he did get a sack,
and then the guys did carry him off, just kind
(27:01):
of playing around, and then he paused for a second
and he goes and you could hear in his voice
he was trying not to laugh as he was saying it.
He's like, I won't say it was a joke, but
it was playing around. And then he adds to close it, well,
you know, he worked his butt off to get to
where he was, but basically saying like, this was a
(27:22):
joke to us, we thought it would be funny if
we lifted this guy up that just got a sack
and carried him off the field. Dan said. When they
revisited the sound bite in twenty twenty one, they were
they were kind of talking about.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Is this him in Montana?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah, well, this is just so that the quote, the
quotes I just read went from his original appearance in
twenty ten. They went back in twenty twenty one. It
was kind of like, hey, remember the time Joe Montana.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Came over here and said.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Rudy was fake? Basically, and they replayed the original sound
bite and Dan shares a story of hanging up the
phone that day and saying, I don't think Joe knows
what he's just done about how people love the favor
of the legend of Rudy and there are a couple
of Notre Dame fans on Dan show that said they
(28:14):
were kind of laughing and joking their harps ripped out. Yeah,
it's like they get defensive about it, and He's like,
I'm sitting there like what is what is was Joe
Montana even there during Rudy like all that, And then
here's like Dan's like, people love this Rudy moment. And
then here's Joe, mister Notre Dame saying we didn't turn
(28:36):
in our jerseys. We kind of made fun of him
after he got that sack. It was just really interesting
to hear, how like the attitude towards that movie that
is heralded as one of the great sports movies of
all time. Hearing that a lot of the Notre Dame
players kind of get a kick out of it, you know.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Yeah, and it has nothing to do like they their
feeling has nothing, There is nothing uplifting. It's and their
eyes the percent accuracy accuracy.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
It's almost like they're like, we were just working a
bit and they turned it into one of.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
The Yeah, yeah, interesting, yeah, so and what is I
mean Joe Montena has nothing to lose, So what does
he mean? What is Rudy gonna tell him he can't
talk about football?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
So yeah, I mean if anybody, yeah, he's earned it. Yeah,
let's get into some I cannot believe that.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Yeah, just now, like now watch that movie again. After
listening to this and thinking most of these guys didn't
were not like not that they weren't supportive, but it's
not like they were like gonna throw it all away
for one guy. But then when it's like, you know,
no other player has been carried off since, it's kind
of like we was that because like was this like
(29:57):
a joke and then they thought we're okay, we won't Yeah, yeah,
I don't. Yeah, I don't think it was an honor now.
I think it was more of like the guys, why
why do you do?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
There's a lot of guys like in these interviews that
were like nobody was chanting his like people in the
crowd didn't know who he was. They didn't know.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
And I think people may listen to this and thank
Stony Brandon. You guys know, movies aren't real. They always do.
But I mean this is none of like nothing like
you can't like like some of that like the most
inspiring moments basically didn't happen. And so if you were
in the crowd, you watched this small kid run out
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and then his teammates are thinking it's funny to carry
him off because he will never play football again. And
that's what that's that's what started it off.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Buddy, good job nothing.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
That's what you may have been off sides, we don't
know was that was.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Kind of jarring to dig into this because like before
I had watched the movie, I kind of new tale
of Wow, this is one of the best underdog stories
of all time. And I mean in some regards, sure
it still is, but.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah, I mean you can't take it all away from him,
and he did get there.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
It feels kind of funny to me. I don't like
it when I look, you know, I'm looking at the
Notre Dame players and they're like laughing at us for thinking, yeah,
this is real. I'm like, oh, it's.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Like it's You're like, I wish someone would have told
me when I was watching.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Yeah I've been duped. Let's get into some letterbox reviews,
because there are there are some good ones. This is
from true. Why do jim teachers like this movie so
heck and much. I do remember this thing being like
in pe class, if it was raining and we couldn't
play basketball outside, they play a movie like this is
(31:57):
one of those movies that I feel like, uh would
be there. This is from Cinemali. Men will literally devote
their lives to college football before going to therapy. That's
a good one.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
I like that one.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Let's see we No, no, no, this one made me laugh.
From user Hoover. It just says he got that dog
in him.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
I mean, hey, they did say he worked his ass off.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Yeah, I mean, but that's you know, I love, and
that's you know, I don't. I don't want to be
disrespectful to the man himself.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
No, No, because he got out of it. He could
have easily gone the way it looks like most of
his family had gone, and he did get there. I
mean a lot of people would have wouldn't have even
made it to even try to make a tackle in
a college football game. I didn't. Yeah, so I mean,
but yes, But at the same time, it.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Just feels like that there's a lot of players that
work really hard to get where they are in college football. Yes,
this one just happened to play for the most high
profile program at the time, vaunted fan base. People making
a movie about it. That's a celebration of the university itself.
It just kind of got manipulated into something more than
(33:13):
it was. And I don't think that's necessarily fair to Rudy.
Probably know if it's.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Fair, but Rudy should also know how much ninety two
percent is. If you've lived it, that's a then that's
like a I'll give you a scene.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Maybe, yeah, But I like this one from user named
Stephen Sajdak. I believe he's just a show boat. That's
always about Vince Vaughn's antagonistic character on Rudy's never give
up spirit. I agree wholeheartedly.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
You must pissed, But boy, then that coach. Let him
have it. Let Vincent Vaughan have it.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
This one from will Swade. He gave Rudy a one
star review and at lol Okay he recorded one sack
against a bunch of sociology majors and plumbers. I had
twenty six career interceptions and took four of them to
the house with the shrugging emoji.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Where's his story? Where where's movie?
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Where's uh? Where's the will Swade movie, So will Will
will there? We will go? Will? I wanted to ask
because I feel like I had a bit of a
hot take while watching this film because I the reputation
throughout the years and at this point, what thirty two
years old.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Ninety three, twenty three, twenty four, yeah, twenty.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Two, Yeah, so it's huh is that right? Ninety thirty two?
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Oh yeah, what's what?
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Years ninety three to two thousand and three?
Speaker 3 (34:47):
I left out twenty thirteen, twenty twenty three, totally left out.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Thirty thirty two years old. Wow. I kind of expected
more out of this given its reputation. I kind of
felt like this I'd never seen before we did decided
to do this podcast. I was I was let down
by it. But then I remembered thinking back to some
of the other football movies that we've revisited in recent years.
(35:15):
Remember The Titans, I think still holds up pretty well. Yeah, Radio.
We did an episode of drinking with our buddy Stephen
mccash on that film, and it did not hold up well.
It was another one that felt like.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
That's when I was like, oh man, what Cuba Gooding
Junior was great in it. I felt like back then
I'd be like Oscar.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah, So I got to thinking about it a little
more and was just kind of like, I I don't
know how many truly good football movies there are out there,
and I think part of it is because thematically, most
of them kind of explore the same things, Because like,
(35:56):
if something is noteworthy in sports, it is likely due
to some great feat of athletic ability, some accomplishment, and
then you learn about the adversity face to get to
that point. So I think they can be formulaic, but
I but it.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Can still bring out those emotions. Like I think the
movies in general are always taking from something and but
it but it has to feel meaningful. Yeah you know
what I mean. Like, even if we know the end,
a lot of the stories like Miracle, everyone knows how
this ends, but when you're watching it, it's like you
(36:37):
are in it, and it's like you don't know, even
though it goes by the same Disney blueprint that almost
everything else does. But that just shows you directing and
the writing and acting when it all comes together, because
you can tell me a story you already know and
that is, you know, in many ways predictable, but it
doesn't feel that way. Yeah, so some for a story
(36:59):
like Rudy Who and I have seen it before. I've
expected more and I've seen.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
It, so I I kind of feel like Friday Night
Lights is the gold standard.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Friday Night Lights is great.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
I want to revisit that film at some point soon.
But I like remember the Titans. I can acknowledge that
it is. There's a little bit of that, like Disney
drivel to it.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Don't care about any given Sunday.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
But I like The water Boy, but that's not.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Water balls but football, but it's not the kind.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yeah, I want to revisit any given Sunday because I
haven't seen that since I first.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
I don't think it's probably as good as we remember. Yeah,
to be honest, but.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
I jotted down the like the Certified Fresh the top
five rated football movies, just amazing.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Sorry, can I just say somebody even Sunday, any given
Sunday does take at least a different perspective because it's
almost the politics of football, Okay, and that is at
least something different that deals with head coach, deals with owners,
deals with the old quarterback. There's a new quarterback in town,
stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
So heaven can wait is rated eighty six percent. Oh, yeah,
I'm one.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
I've never seen all of it.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Would you consider Jerry maguire a football movie? It's eighty
five percent, But I don't.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
I feel because he's a sports agent, not really a
football agent. But I see where like Mos, the main
of it is because of Cuba Good and Junior's character
is a football player. Yeah, I guess so it's Jerry O'Connell.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Friday Night Light says eighty two percent. Yeah, Safety, I
don't remember that one. Is it seventy eight percent? I
think that it's a recent one. I think it was
like direct to Disney Plus or something like that. Oh yeah,
Rudy at seventy eight percent. And then American Underdog the
Kurt Warner movie at seventy five percent.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Oh, that's that's about That's a that's this decade's Rudy.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
It's just I mean, other other films that come to mind,
The Longest Yard, Invincible, The blind Side, if you would
consider that a football movie?
Speaker 3 (39:00):
From what I hear, that wasn't real true either.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Yeah, there's some some some conflict there. Uh, The Express
which I never saw.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
I was gonna say, I kind of I like that one.
But Dennis Quaid and oh man, who's the kid that
played the Express remember I think he's the one that's
also in finding forrest Or.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Uh you have radio? Like we mentioned Draft Day, which
we talked about back in April on this very podcast.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
That's a Cleveland Brown's thing.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Yeah, weird Marshall, Little Giants, Varsity Blues, grid Iron Gang,
the Replacements.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Like I like the Little Giants only because it's a
different kind of football. Yeah, that's obviously more playful. I
remember thinking Invincible was good, but I think it's still
that same kind of dizzy thing.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Bartender steps out from behind.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
The bar, he's too old to play, and they make.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
A play on special teams for Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Yeah, boy, you know what, I just realized they've got
way better baseball movies and football movies.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Man, that's a take I think I can get behind.
Yeah who who, Like, how do you make like a gritty,
different football movie?
Speaker 3 (40:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
I don't know either, And that's what I kind of
the realization I had watching Rudy was.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Just kind of like I'm gonna email Tarantino.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Like we're just you know, you have to find that
it is just is what it is.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Yeah, I think you have to find that story that
has captured the imagination of people, and I think Rudy
was an example of that. Kurt Warner's story is an
example of that. But but it's just totald and I
don't know if it's because no one wants to be
painted in a bad light. Well no, if I'm Kurt Warner,
don't show me, don't show my bullshit. To just show
(40:46):
how look how great I did. And I'm sure when Rudy,
when they were like, hey, look at all these jerseys,
he's probably thinking.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Yeah, do it.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
I would, But yeah, gosh that Yeah, Friday Night Lights
is the one I think of the most because that's football,
and it's football in a small town. And you know,
they've got these like reality shows and now I forgot
the names of them, but where like they it's about
these like high school and football teams and stuff. So
(41:15):
I feel like that's where the real drama is. It's
not in the movies anymore. I think they kind of
have ran its course unless it's gonna be about you know,
have they made an O. J. Simpson movie That would
be a fun one, but don't leave out the good
stuff about his football career. I don't, but you know,
I mean it almost have to be kind of the
(41:36):
like with the Express where now it's it's kind of
like a culture thing or a race thing and a
race bear Like I feel like that's what that's what
they used it for. Just kind of like with you know,
with forty two with Jackie Robinson. There's things like that. Yeah,
but then there's also where like I like, at least
The Replacements was something kind of fun about. Yeah, all
the kind of you know, past their prime people coming
(41:59):
in because of the strike. I mean, I don't know.
I wouldn't say it's a great movie, but at least
it's a fun take on something that is different. But
but yeah, I mean, my gosh, I can just think,
like even just do regular but I mean fiell to Dreams, Bulldrum,
leave of their own. My favorite baseball movie doesn't really
have a lot of baseball in it. What's that Moneyball?
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Oh, Moneyball rules? I love Moneyball.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
The Sandlot, sand Lot Sound Sandlot is a child It's
a forever childhood movie, and I think it hits the
sweet spot with a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
I think, yep, yep, I'm with you. Well that's all
the notes I have prepared for Rudy, any any parting thoughts.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
No, just God bless Joe Joe Montana.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Joe Montana is the real hero.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
He where's history, where's his story?
Speaker 2 (42:46):
He's heard it enough of this ship, y'all. Y'all ain't
talking about Rudy anymore.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
I love I love how Dan Patrick years years later ago.
I just don't think he knows what he did. And
but my thinking is I think he did.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Yeah, I think it. Yeah, it sounded like a guy
that was like, not this shit.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
I tell you what, Let me go ahead and set
it straight.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Yeah, yeah, all right, Well that is gonna do it
for us. Thank you guys for listening to another movie
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so that means you guys get a bonus movie review
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(43:31):
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(00:34):
another episode of the Movie Review Rewind podcast right here
on the Nashville Movie Dispatch. It's September. Fall is approaching.
It's not here yet, but it's approaching. Football season is underway.
There's been a couple of weeks of college football at
this point in the season. It is one of my
(00:55):
favorite times a year. And we are going to talk
about a classic quote unquote classic today Rudy from nineteen
ninety three.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Well, I think I should have written that down, but
I'm pretty sure, pretty sure it is nineteen ninety three.
I'm Stony Keeley, the EIC at Sobros. Network, joined as
usual by my co host for the Movie Review Rewind podcast.
He is a board member on the Music City Film
Critics Association, a member of the Southeastern Film Critics Association.
(01:29):
Our resident film critic, mister big shot Brandon Vick Brandon,
how you doing today? My man?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Good? I almost man, what a shocker that huge Texas
Longhorn Upst I'm still reeling from it.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yes, yes, this is uh wow live. Obviously we do
not record these episodes months and then va.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Actually I love fall Weather.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
The the Fresno States off to a good story.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yeah, they are, Oh my god, go Huskies. Ummm. I
think if if if you say sports underdog movie, sportsman,
let me sports movie. Yeah, I think people would say Hoosiers.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
And they're both written or directed by the same people.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Oh are they? I think it's written. I don't think
that's the same director.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I mean, I could have looked that up. Yeah, we
I just no need. I'm gonna be honest and upfront
with you guys right from the get go.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Don't tell them.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
But I just don't think this is a good movie
at all iteming qualities.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Okay, I was gonna say, you know, I'm bad about
deleting texts, but I should have saved yours because I
literally hit play and I was two minutes in when
you sent me a thing that which I'll let you
tell everybody what you basically said, but I I'm happy
to hear because I will tell you there are parts
(02:59):
that it's still a kind of gets to me, even
though it's very melodramatic and there. I don't even know
if it's a good movie, but that underdog spirit is
still there. It's still intact. And I'll be honest, when
they start chanting his name at the end, it's it's
very sweet.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
We're going to get into all that. Yeah, I just research.
Our crack production team is on it. David Anspa, I
think is how you pronounce it? Did direct Rudy and oh?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
He did do both?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Okay, also did Fresh Horses. Okay, Molly Ringwald movie nineteen
eighty eight, Moonlight and Valentino. Gwyneth Paltrow is in that
Whoopee Goldberg and John bon Jovie, Oh, Wise girls, Mira Sorvino,
Mariah Carey, so enough said the Game of their Lives?
(03:54):
I never heard of that.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Did it end with Rudy? I'm confused?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
And Little Red Wagon twenty twelve?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Never I don't know what that is either.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, so I mean this kind of you want to
talk about lightning in a bottle? I guess. So Hoosiers
and Rooting, Yeah, two quite famous films. I've never seen Hoosiers,
but maybe i'll. I'll it's really good, but I can
check it out.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Well, you know, who's in it.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Gene Hackeman.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
That's right, That's all you need to.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Know, the legendary Gene Hackman.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
But yeah, and I think I would associate this is
like one of the top sports underdog movies. But I'll
be honest, I don't I remember it being better. Yeah,
when I was younger, I could see that, but it's
also where I guess now and of course, you know,
I mean, I'm almost you know, it'll be forty soon,
(04:47):
and so like it's kind of like the the story telling,
the story arc of it is not that interesting. It's
very plain. It's it really doesn't have that much heart.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I was surprised by that for an.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Underdog story and the character of Rudi himself. I was
kind of surprised because I thought, for sure there was
more heart in this. But they're really is it. I
would say maybe once he finally gets to university and
he kind of keeps checking and like they've switched coaches,
you know, kind of that last thirty minutes, which is
(05:24):
also when the thing. But like, I don't know, like
what they try to do with the family aspect of it,
which I mean, some of it works, some of it doesn't,
especially I don't think the brother Frank is I don't
know that didn't really like get me going. I think
the things that with him and his father kind of
meant a little more, and the scenes that they had
(05:44):
with the late great ned Baby. But I but yeah,
and then it's I'm the part where like he talks
to the priest so he goes to that one school
to get into there, but like the interactions like within
like his grades, but also trying to make it on
(06:05):
the team, so he's gonna be on like the groundskeeping.
And then like I think the guy is supposed to
be Joe Paterno or a look alike who's the coach
of Notre Dame back in the seventies. How easy their
conversation is, but it also doesn't really connect in a
(06:27):
coherent way of like he's not doing what we love
your heart, you can't dress, you'll never play, Okay, maybe
this once, and then it takes all of the players
to say, hey, he needs to play in my spot.
And even then, yeah, he doesn't really get to play
except to four or five seconds. So he's so good
(06:50):
that he he's just not going to really play.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, well he's just too small, too small, he's gonna.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Get great heart though he's got a lot of heart.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Wish wish I could put your heart in some of
my other player's body. I do.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
We do see him playing in practice and stuff, so
we know he doesn't understand football.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah. Yeah, I felt like this was propaganda for Notre
Dame fans. It's like, I feel like, if you want
to become a Notre Dame fan, you have to be
able to recite this movie from heart kind of deal.
So like I can understand, like you probably walk into
any house in South Bend, Indiana and they've got like
rudy movie posters on the wall.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah I bet Sean Aston goes around and makes a killing.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah, probably. I I just it felt like we were
spoon fed plot points, like we got this job at
the steel mill. This is what you're going to do
your whole life.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
So you got a best friend named Pete, do you?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah? Well, so long Pete, Damn, so long Pete. You've
got this. You know you can't you're too small to
play football. Let's let's hammer it in the audience's mind.
Let's make sure that they know this guy's facing a
life at the steel right and he's too small, and
he's too stupid to keep good grades.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
His family thinks this is his only job you should want.
You can't get into university.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
It just feels like there's so much that's like they
don't actually set up the plot points with any real emotion.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
They just tell you very true. They just tell you
very true.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
You're you're never gonna dress.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, okay, Well, and they say it over and over
like you're right that that's a good way. And and
I think that's really I think that's kind of with
what with what I'm saying about. I thought there was
more heart in this. Yeah, A lot of it is
just a like we're gonna say it here here, here, here,
and here we're gonna show how small he is because
(08:44):
we're gonna cast these huge I mean, I don't even
think half of them should have even been in college.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, probably not.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I think they were in their fifties, pro wrestlers. Yeah,
I think they were on American Gladiators after it went
off the air, And so yeah, that part is it
is very true. And I do agree, like I see
why Notre Dame let them do that movie, because let
me tell you that if well, if you if you
don't watch that movie and thank god, this is the
(09:11):
best place, the best place on earth. What are we
doing here?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
How much they love everybodysh Yeah. Rudy Rudiger said in
an interview later on that Notre Dame was quite difficult
to work with. Oh but he said it in a
good way. Well he did go, which is kind.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Of like are we still protecting the house that Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
So he said that they were very particular about how
the university was portrayed, And as soon as he said that,
I was just kind of like, oh, yeah, this is
propaganda for Notre Dame. They clearly had to say and
how the story was told, how the university was portrayed,
because it does kind of feel like it feels like
(09:55):
a commercial for the for the school. At times it's like, come,
you know, be a part of look at this great history,
this great underdog story. Well it how good everybody involved
with this?
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I mean it's painted as a place of worship.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, yeah, I mean absolutely so. It pays homage to
Notre Dame as if it was like written and directed
by a fan. I don't know, I could have I
should have.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Looked that up too, maybe graduated from there.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, maybe he did. Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah, I mean it is true. I will say I
think towards the end it still sort of works because
I think and a lot of it might be to
the credit of Sean Aston. But at the same time,
it did feel lackluster. It does. It does kind of
ring a little, a little hollowed watching it after I
don't I don't even know the last time I've watched
(10:44):
that movie. Yeah, and the fact that I saw at
Jon Favreau and Vince Vaughn.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Dude, that's I remember.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
I remember Favreau, but I had no idea Vince Vaughn
was in that movie.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I heard the voice from the first time we see
his character, and I stopped, like what I was doing.
I was working, I was watching film while it was
going on football tape, writing about a player, and I
heard the voice and I just like immediately grabbed the
remote and paused it, looked up and I was like,
(11:20):
that doesn't Is that Vince Vaughn.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
And he's credited as Vincent.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, And so I looked at the cast and sure enough, fat,
that is Vince Vaughn. That's crazy, And that's why I
love it.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Like even when you say like they have to build
towards this thing. Also, I really like Charles S. Stutton.
He was the groundskeeper. That was kind of letting. I
actually sometimes I thought he's the most believable part of
any part of the movie.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I think.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
So I did, like how if he dressed. Everybody was
clearing their schedule to make sure they're there, and Charles
Stutton's character does. And let me tell you, as soon
as he makes that tackle, they show him clapping and
he immediately leaves.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, it was so poetic.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yeah, well he wants to beat that fucking traffic for that.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah. I mean that's a big stadium on game. Yeah. Yeah.
So that was apparently like one of the few details
of the story that was actually true, by the way,
because I had a good relationship he had with the
ground relationship with the grounds.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I thought I the carried all because apparently that never happened.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
No, he was, he was carried. Well we'll get into
that later. Yeah, okay, but the groundskeeper was a yeah,
and I think you're right. I think there is an
element of heart there from him and that that part
of the movie. I felt like the score in this
was so sappy. I mean, to me, like I.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Think sometimes I don't think it changed.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
It just it felt like a Hallmark movie at times,
and I'm just I'm watching it, like I called it
Disney coded drivel because it feels like, I mean, I
don't know, I mean, this probably is a movie that
kids would watch and love, and I don't know, maybe
at a young age this kind of makes you fall
in love with the game of football. Then I'm not
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gonna fault you for that, but it just felt too
easy to me, too predictable.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
It is. It's and you know, a lot of it
is rather lazy, like like now that we're in what
twenty something years later, it does look like, I mean,
I'm shocked Disney didn't do this one. It does very
much feel like it as in, like, you know, there's
this there's there's no gray in here. It's a he's
hard working, he's great, he's told he's never gonna do
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it because of his size, and then all these all
these other guys and like, let me tell you, you
want to talk about having no emotion whatsoever, Vince Vaughan
when you're in that huddle, Yeah, hey, come on, we
gotta do it for Rudy, Like whoa ready to go God, Vincent,
calm down.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
The critics consensus on this from Rotten Tomatoes. Though undeniably
sentimental and predictable, Rudy succeeds with an uplifting spirit and determination.
I think uplifting is probably the best word that I'm
willing to go for this. Like, if you call it uplifting,
I can. I can meet you there. I do think
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it's predictable, Oh yeah, I do feel like it's a
little a little too linear and a little too it's
very cliche positive cliched, Yeah, painted in a very certain light.
I don't feel like there's a lot of friction in
the story here. What they want you to believe that
this is, you know, an against all odds impossible scenario,
(14:40):
But I don't think you ever really feel that in
this film.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
You're right. And what's weird is it took all of
these players to basically say they're not going to play,
and he still only played seven seconds. Yeah, Like I
know the dream was just to kind of dress and
be on this lines, Like I get it, But the
whole thing is like, oh, you know what, that's great,
And I'm sure I don't know if he actually made
(15:08):
the last tackle or whatever, but uplifting I get, and
I do think you take the sport of football. Yeah,
and even when it's done in a pretty bland way
like Rudy is, I think there's something about it of
where you still you can still get the audience to
(15:31):
participate in rooting for him.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yes, And I.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Think that's where I kind of fall, especially in the
last thirty minutes, is you're happy for that person because oh,
dreams do still come true? Now? How we get there
was very different than what I initially imagined when I
saw it.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
However, many years well, I do think I landed on
a two two out of five for this, and what
I did give the film credit for was a sort
of celebration of not necessarily the sport of football itself,
but a celebration of the pageantry the tradition of college football.
(16:15):
I think the film does do a good job of
speaking to the loyalty and the community that you do
have in a strong college football fan base. I know,
like Notre Dame fans or a tight knit family Alabama fans,
Tennessee fans.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
All that like take pride in it.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, and that is something that I do think reflects
well in the movie because it's all about Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah. Well, and the thing is, and what I think
is really kind of glossed over, even though they do
mention it at the end, is that he's going to college,
which is not which is uncommon or at least uncommon
in his family. That's not the goals that anybody had set.
So but that's just kind of glossed over because it's
all about just getting into the football, which is the
(17:00):
only reason why he tried to get the grades he could.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah, and I do think it's a pretty it's a
pretty easy watch. I mean it's it's one like you
could have in the background.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I mean I watched it, but yeah, you're not.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I do think I will. I do think I will
be giving my DVD copy back to danger Zone Video.
So if you're looking for a DVD copy of it,
go out to Mount Juliet.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I wouldn't watch it again, Yeah, I'm not gonna. I
think I'll just remember that Rudy chant and be.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Like, OK, yeah, I'm this is not one that I
think I need in my collection.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I wouldn't watch it around this time now. I wouldn't
try to watch others watch little Giants.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Little Giants.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Yeah, so would you say that's uplifting, that's an underdog story.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Well, I haven't watched it since I was a child.
You should maybe we should revisit it. Maybe that can be.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Next year, so better writing. You should hear the score
on that one.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
All right, all right? What did you think about Sean
Astons as Rudy. It's fine, it's fine. Yeah. I thought
it's kind.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Of I don't think he's a problem.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
No. I And and really like I caught myself thinking
really talented actor that I think like shows up in
the Lord of the Rings movies. I thought he was
funny in fifty First Dates. Yeah, a little bit h yeah,
a little bit of comedic range there. And like having
seen some of his later work, going back and revisiting Rudy,
(18:24):
it was kind of like, you know what, good for
him that he has this film. Yeah, Like he's forever
gonna be Rudy. Yeah, but it's it's kind of like,
you know what, that's a guy that I think is
still been consistent enough throughout the years that like he
deserves that place in Hollywood.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Well, I kind of feel like the Goonies, Yeah, Rudy
and the Lord of the Rings is pretty good. He
did all right? Yeah, he did all right?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, but yeah, no, I I there's there's something else
in his filmography that he popped up in recently.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Is it before Rooting? He's in love hurts Happen where
some of the goony people got back together and actually
his scene is probably the best scene. But yeah, I
mean he's fine. I don't even know if that. I
I feel like the writing is what lets them down,
and the storytelling just in general, Like I feel like
(19:20):
everything is such done on such like a and just
such the most conventional movie you could do. But hey,
it has football and you've probably heard of Notre Dame. Yeah,
and that's it, Like that's all they felt like they needed.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
He's Bob and stranger things. Oh my god, how how
can we forget you? I loved him and Bob I
did too.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Okay, now you're at that to what the other stuff?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Yeah, go retire, That's what I'm saying. Like, good for
Like I'm glad you've got that. Like now you're you're
gonna be remembered in film history, Sean Aston, Like, good
for you. I don't like this movie, but yeah, kind
of deal.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
I'd say, gooney, he probably was already there with goonies. Yeah,
to be an all fair and then a whole new
let me tell you something, I bet most the fans
Lord of the Rings probably never even heard of Rudy. Yeah,
so he's got he's got it across the board. He's
got it across the board.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
So let's get into some of the fun real life stuff. Yeah,
because this is I think this is where are.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
You about to tell me Rudy never went to Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Rudy does not exist. He's completely fictional. Uh, this is
where I think the conversation gets gets interesting because there
is the sack really happened that oh he got in
the game. The sack really happened. But there is a
popular conspiracy theory that Rudy was actually offside, actually lined
up offside, And if you go back and watch the
(20:45):
archive footage, it's really hard to tell. But I think
if you like zoom in, it looks like, yeah, he's
actually probably lined up offside.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
He should have never fucking played football.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Which is like, this is a pretty big moment that
your your university, your program has turned into this, like and.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Now that team can bitch now because like what you've done.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I don't know if you would call this. I mean,
it's a part of the grand mythology of Notre Dame.
Now is the Rudy Rudiger play. And to think like
the whole thing should have been he should.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Have had a flag throat never have happened.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Now, I don't know that this was rooted. The origin
of this claim is from the Georgia Tech fan base.
Was the team that they.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Were, because there was like twenty four to three when
he went in.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah, but there is some like historical bad blood between
the two fan bases because Georgia Tech says Rudy was
off sides, and like I went back and found the footage.
You can find the play on YouTube black and white.
It's you know, grainy and blurry, but you, I mean,
(21:54):
I look at I'm like, yeah, I think he is
off sides on this play. So I think so, I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
I mean in the seventies, he's pretty young.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
So there's a YouTube channel called dose leprechauns Notre Dame
fan channel. Okay, they posted a clip of the video
or a clip of the play, and their caption just
says Georgia Tech likes to claim that Rudy was offsides,
off sides or not. Your quarterback got sacked by a
five foot nothing, one hundred and pound walk on with
(22:28):
barely a spec of athletic ability. If that's not college football,
I don't know what is. Oh, that is some some
real fan base to fan base hatred. Yes, that's uh.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Also that I've that it's kind of hurtful towards Rudy.
It is, but I think has talent.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
So I started I started digging into this a little
bit because I had heard through the grapevine. You know,
it's like Rudy was offsides and that's not even real,
that's not even there is kind of an attitude towards Rudy,
like the real life Rudy that's like this movie makes
you look like something you're not. Oh and and it
(23:11):
sounds like there are a lot of I went and
watched Red listen to a bunch of old player interviews
that are kind of like, h yeah, it was a
fun moment, like we were happy for the guy. Oh,
it wasn't some big thing where.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Like they didn't know, they didn't turn in their jerseys,
that did.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Not happen, and demand that did not happen, so Rudy
Rudiger himself told Sports Illustrated that the film is about
ninety two percent accurate, which a lot of people a
lot of people have called bullshit. That's the same interview
where he's saying Notre Dame was kind of difficult to
work with, but he acknowledged that the scene the jersey
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thing is like a huge sticking point with the players
and and the coach too, Divine. I can't remember is
Dan Divine. I don't remember what his first name was,
but that scene was completely fabricated. And in this interview
with Sports Illustrated, Rudy tells them, well, the scene where
they lay the jerseys on coach Divine's desk was quote embellishment,
(24:16):
a nice way of saying, we just made it up
to help the story. And he was kind of talking like, well,
you know, like it's Hollywood, They've got to spruce it
up to do it. And I'm like, but it's still
nine accurate.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
According to Rupe, well, and that's why I like, you know,
he keeps checking the list and then the other guys
are like, oh man, sorry, Rudy, and then that I
think he's one of the captains. He's like, it ain't
it just ain't right. And I'm like, come on, guys,
or at least at least make it believable.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, So I mentioned it being a sticking point. Divine
himself has said publicly if any player had put their
jersey down on my desk, they never would have seen it. Again,
that's what I mean.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
That's but I think that's what you're saying, like they're
painting these people is in like, well, I can't let them,
and then it comes in. It's like oh and but
even then, even to their even in the scenes that
you're presented, it's not like it changed the game. Yeah,
because you know, I mean, I get it. It's all
about the guy just getting on the field, I understand.
But I just love how even in this underdog story
(25:18):
with his embellishments, it still isn't one of those like,
oh my god, like do you believe in miracles? Yeah,
I mean it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
So and again there are players that like, when this
thing comes up, there's a there's a montage on YouTube
of like all these all these players being asked about
that particular scene, because I mean, it is a pretty
powerful scene in the movie and guys are just kind
of laughing at it. They're just like, yeah, that didn't happen.
(25:49):
And there's one quote I didn't jot down the particular
player because their names weren't up on the screen that
just said, uh nah, we worked too hard for those
varsity jerseys, and I'm not getting rid of it.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
That's the real spirit of college football.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
And then in twenty ten, Joe Montana himself went on
The Dan Patrick.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Show and was he wearing his sketchers He.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Might have been his feet. He practically took a needle
to the balloon of Rudy Oh, saying it's a movie,
remember not all that's true, adding the crowd wasn't chanting,
nobody threw in their jersey, saying he did get into
the game, and he did get carried off the field.
(26:39):
But he added that they tried to get all of
the seniors in the game on the final home game
of the season. It was a thing where like, you're
a senior, this is your last home game. It wasn't
just a rooti It was like everybody got out there
and then he says, and then he did get a sack,
and then the guys did carry him off, just kind
(27:01):
of playing around, and then he paused for a second
and he goes and you could hear in his voice
he was trying not to laugh as he was saying it.
He's like, I won't say it was a joke, but
it was playing around. And then he adds to close it, well,
you know, he worked his butt off to get to
where he was, but basically saying like, this was a
(27:22):
joke to us, we thought it would be funny if
we lifted this guy up that just got a sack
and carried him off the field. Dan said. When they
revisited the sound bite in twenty twenty one, they were
they were kind of talking about.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Is this him in Montana?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah, well, this is just so that the quote, the
quotes I just read went from his original appearance in
twenty ten. They went back in twenty twenty one. It
was kind of like, hey, remember the time Joe Montana.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Came over here and said.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Rudy was fake? Basically, and they replayed the original sound
bite and Dan shares a story of hanging up the
phone that day and saying, I don't think Joe knows
what he's just done about how people love the favor
of the legend of Rudy and there are a couple
of Notre Dame fans on Dan show that said they
(28:14):
were kind of laughing and joking their harps ripped out. Yeah,
it's like they get defensive about it, and He's like,
I'm sitting there like what is what is was Joe
Montana even there during Rudy like all that, And then
here's like Dan's like, people love this Rudy moment. And
then here's Joe, mister Notre Dame saying we didn't turn
(28:36):
in our jerseys. We kind of made fun of him
after he got that sack. It was just really interesting
to hear, how like the attitude towards that movie that
is heralded as one of the great sports movies of
all time. Hearing that a lot of the Notre Dame
players kind of get a kick out of it, you know.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Yeah, and it has nothing to do like they their
feeling has nothing, There is nothing uplifting. It's and their
eyes the percent accuracy accuracy.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
It's almost like they're like, we were just working a
bit and they turned it into one of.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
The Yeah, yeah, interesting, yeah, so and what is I
mean Joe Montena has nothing to lose, So what does
he mean? What is Rudy gonna tell him he can't
talk about football?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
So yeah, I mean if anybody, yeah, he's earned it. Yeah,
let's get into some I cannot believe that.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Yeah, just now, like now watch that movie again. After
listening to this and thinking most of these guys didn't
were not like not that they weren't supportive, but it's
not like they were like gonna throw it all away
for one guy. But then when it's like, you know,
no other player has been carried off since, it's kind
of like we was that because like was this like
(29:57):
a joke and then they thought we're okay, we won't Yeah, yeah,
I don't. Yeah, I don't think it was an honor now.
I think it was more of like the guys, why
why do you do?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
There's a lot of guys like in these interviews that
were like nobody was chanting his like people in the
crowd didn't know who he was. They didn't know.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
And I think people may listen to this and thank
Stony Brandon. You guys know, movies aren't real. They always do.
But I mean this is none of like nothing like
you can't like like some of that like the most
inspiring moments basically didn't happen. And so if you were
in the crowd, you watched this small kid run out
(30:36):
and then his teammates are thinking it's funny to carry
him off because he will never play football again. And
that's what that's that's what started it off.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Buddy, good job nothing.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
That's what you may have been off sides, we don't
know was that was.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Kind of jarring to dig into this because like before
I had watched the movie, I kind of new tale
of Wow, this is one of the best underdog stories
of all time. And I mean in some regards, sure
it still is, but.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah, I mean you can't take it all away from him,
and he did get there.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
It feels kind of funny to me. I don't like
it when I look, you know, I'm looking at the
Notre Dame players and they're like laughing at us for thinking, yeah,
this is real. I'm like, oh, it's.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Like it's You're like, I wish someone would have told
me when I was watching.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Yeah I've been duped. Let's get into some letterbox reviews,
because there are there are some good ones. This is
from true. Why do jim teachers like this movie so
heck and much. I do remember this thing being like
in pe class, if it was raining and we couldn't
play basketball outside, they play a movie like this is
(31:57):
one of those movies that I feel like, uh would
be there. This is from Cinemali. Men will literally devote
their lives to college football before going to therapy. That's
a good one.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
I like that one.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Let's see we No, no, no, this one made me laugh.
From user Hoover. It just says he got that dog
in him.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
I mean, hey, they did say he worked his ass off.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Yeah, I mean, but that's you know, I love, and
that's you know, I don't. I don't want to be
disrespectful to the man himself.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
No, No, because he got out of it. He could
have easily gone the way it looks like most of
his family had gone, and he did get there. I
mean a lot of people would have wouldn't have even
made it to even try to make a tackle in
a college football game. I didn't. Yeah, so I mean,
but yes, But at the same time, it.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Just feels like that there's a lot of players that
work really hard to get where they are in college football. Yes,
this one just happened to play for the most high
profile program at the time, vaunted fan base. People making
a movie about it. That's a celebration of the university itself.
It just kind of got manipulated into something more than
(33:13):
it was. And I don't think that's necessarily fair to Rudy.
Probably know if it's.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Fair, but Rudy should also know how much ninety two
percent is. If you've lived it, that's a then that's
like a I'll give you a scene.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Maybe, yeah, But I like this one from user named
Stephen Sajdak. I believe he's just a show boat. That's
always about Vince Vaughn's antagonistic character on Rudy's never give
up spirit. I agree wholeheartedly.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
You must pissed, But boy, then that coach. Let him
have it. Let Vincent Vaughan have it.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
This one from will Swade. He gave Rudy a one
star review and at lol Okay he recorded one sack
against a bunch of sociology majors and plumbers. I had
twenty six career interceptions and took four of them to
the house with the shrugging emoji.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Where's his story? Where where's movie?
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Where's uh? Where's the will Swade movie, So will Will
will there? We will go? Will? I wanted to ask
because I feel like I had a bit of a
hot take while watching this film because I the reputation
throughout the years and at this point, what thirty two
years old.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Ninety three, twenty three, twenty four, yeah, twenty.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Two, Yeah, so it's huh is that right? Ninety thirty two?
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Oh yeah, what's what?
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Years ninety three to two thousand and three?
Speaker 3 (34:47):
I left out twenty thirteen, twenty twenty three, totally left out.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Thirty thirty two years old. Wow. I kind of expected
more out of this given its reputation. I kind of
felt like this I'd never seen before we did decided
to do this podcast. I was I was let down
by it. But then I remembered thinking back to some
of the other football movies that we've revisited in recent years.
(35:15):
Remember The Titans, I think still holds up pretty well. Yeah, Radio.
We did an episode of drinking with our buddy Stephen
mccash on that film, and it did not hold up well.
It was another one that felt like.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
That's when I was like, oh man, what Cuba Gooding
Junior was great in it. I felt like back then
I'd be like Oscar.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah, So I got to thinking about it a little
more and was just kind of like, I I don't
know how many truly good football movies there are out there,
and I think part of it is because thematically, most
of them kind of explore the same things, Because like,
(35:56):
if something is noteworthy in sports, it is likely due
to some great feat of athletic ability, some accomplishment, and
then you learn about the adversity face to get to
that point. So I think they can be formulaic, but
I but it.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Can still bring out those emotions. Like I think the
movies in general are always taking from something and but
it but it has to feel meaningful. Yeah you know
what I mean. Like, even if we know the end,
a lot of the stories like Miracle, everyone knows how
this ends, but when you're watching it, it's like you
(36:37):
are in it, and it's like you don't know, even
though it goes by the same Disney blueprint that almost
everything else does. But that just shows you directing and
the writing and acting when it all comes together, because
you can tell me a story you already know and
that is, you know, in many ways predictable, but it
doesn't feel that way. Yeah, so some for a story
(36:59):
like Rudy Who and I have seen it before. I've
expected more and I've seen.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
It, so I I kind of feel like Friday Night
Lights is the gold standard.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Friday Night Lights is great.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
I want to revisit that film at some point soon.
But I like remember the Titans. I can acknowledge that
it is. There's a little bit of that, like Disney
drivel to it.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Don't care about any given Sunday.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
But I like The water Boy, but that's not.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Water balls but football, but it's not the kind.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yeah, I want to revisit any given Sunday because I
haven't seen that since I first.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
I don't think it's probably as good as we remember. Yeah,
to be honest, but.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
I jotted down the like the Certified Fresh the top
five rated football movies, just amazing.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Sorry, can I just say somebody even Sunday, any given
Sunday does take at least a different perspective because it's
almost the politics of football, Okay, and that is at
least something different that deals with head coach, deals with owners,
deals with the old quarterback. There's a new quarterback in town,
stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
So heaven can wait is rated eighty six percent. Oh, yeah,
I'm one.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
I've never seen all of it.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Would you consider Jerry maguire a football movie? It's eighty
five percent, But I don't.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
I feel because he's a sports agent, not really a
football agent. But I see where like Mos, the main
of it is because of Cuba Good and Junior's character
is a football player. Yeah, I guess so it's Jerry O'Connell.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Friday Night Light says eighty two percent. Yeah, Safety, I
don't remember that one. Is it seventy eight percent? I
think that it's a recent one. I think it was
like direct to Disney Plus or something like that. Oh yeah,
Rudy at seventy eight percent. And then American Underdog the
Kurt Warner movie at seventy five percent.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Oh, that's that's about That's a that's this decade's Rudy.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
It's just I mean, other other films that come to mind,
The Longest Yard, Invincible, The blind Side, if you would
consider that a football movie?
Speaker 3 (39:00):
From what I hear, that wasn't real true either.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Yeah, there's some some some conflict there. Uh, The Express
which I never saw.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
I was gonna say, I kind of I like that one.
But Dennis Quaid and oh man, who's the kid that
played the Express remember I think he's the one that's
also in finding forrest Or.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Uh you have radio? Like we mentioned Draft Day, which
we talked about back in April on this very podcast.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
That's a Cleveland Brown's thing.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Yeah, weird Marshall, Little Giants, Varsity Blues, grid Iron Gang,
the Replacements.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Like I like the Little Giants only because it's a
different kind of football. Yeah, that's obviously more playful. I
remember thinking Invincible was good, but I think it's still
that same kind of dizzy thing.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Bartender steps out from behind.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
The bar, he's too old to play, and they make.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
A play on special teams for Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Yeah, boy, you know what, I just realized they've got
way better baseball movies and football movies.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Man, that's a take I think I can get behind.
Yeah who who, Like, how do you make like a gritty,
different football movie?
Speaker 3 (40:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
I don't know either, And that's what I kind of
the realization I had watching Rudy was.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Just kind of like I'm gonna email Tarantino.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Like we're just you know, you have to find that
it is just is what it is.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Yeah, I think you have to find that story that
has captured the imagination of people, and I think Rudy
was an example of that. Kurt Warner's story is an
example of that. But but it's just totald and I
don't know if it's because no one wants to be
painted in a bad light. Well no, if I'm Kurt Warner,
don't show me, don't show my bullshit. To just show
(40:46):
how look how great I did. And I'm sure when Rudy,
when they were like, hey, look at all these jerseys,
he's probably thinking.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Yeah, do it.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
I would, But yeah, gosh that Yeah, Friday Night Lights
is the one I think of the most because that's football,
and it's football in a small town. And you know,
they've got these like reality shows and now I forgot
the names of them, but where like they it's about
these like high school and football teams and stuff. So
(41:15):
I feel like that's where the real drama is. It's
not in the movies anymore. I think they kind of
have ran its course unless it's gonna be about you know,
have they made an O. J. Simpson movie That would
be a fun one, but don't leave out the good
stuff about his football career. I don't, but you know,
I mean it almost have to be kind of the
(41:36):
like with the Express where now it's it's kind of
like a culture thing or a race thing and a
race bear Like I feel like that's what that's what
they used it for. Just kind of like with you know,
with forty two with Jackie Robinson. There's things like that. Yeah,
but then there's also where like I like, at least
The Replacements was something kind of fun about. Yeah, all
the kind of you know, past their prime people coming
(41:59):
in because of the strike. I mean, I don't know.
I wouldn't say it's a great movie, but at least
it's a fun take on something that is different. But
but yeah, I mean, my gosh, I can just think,
like even just do regular but I mean fiell to Dreams, Bulldrum,
leave of their own. My favorite baseball movie doesn't really
have a lot of baseball in it. What's that Moneyball?
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Oh, Moneyball rules? I love Moneyball.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
The Sandlot, sand Lot Sound Sandlot is a child It's
a forever childhood movie, and I think it hits the
sweet spot with a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
I think, yep, yep, I'm with you. Well that's all
the notes I have prepared for Rudy, any any parting thoughts.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
No, just God bless Joe Joe Montana.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Joe Montana is the real hero.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
He where's history, where's his story?
Speaker 2 (42:46):
He's heard it enough of this ship, y'all. Y'all ain't
talking about Rudy anymore.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
I love I love how Dan Patrick years years later ago.
I just don't think he knows what he did. And
but my thinking is I think he did.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Yeah, I think it. Yeah, it sounded like a guy
that was like, not this shit.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
I tell you what, Let me go ahead and set
it straight.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Yeah, yeah, all right, Well that is gonna do it
for us. Thank you guys for listening to another movie
review rewind podcast. Uh, there are five Mondays in September,
so that means you guys get a bonus movie review
rewind podcast this month, and then after that it will
be spooky season and the best movie season of the
(43:31):
year in my opinion, and we will be diving into
five different films. Every Friday in October will be a
spooky season movie on a movie review rewinds. Oh nice,
we are gonna We're gonna have some fun with it.
Thank you guys. For tuning in. Be sure to check
out all of our work at Nashville Movie Dispatch dot
substack dot com. Subscribe to Nashville Movie Dispatch wherever you
(43:53):
take in your podcast. He's Brandon, I'm stony. Until next
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