Nature vs Narcissism
Nature vs Narcissism is a true crime/comedy podcast based in Cincinnati, Ohio where Heather and her guests discuss true crimes and the narcissists who commit them. Sometimes we have alcohol and sometimes things get weird. Relaunching on our 4th PodBirthday (Oct 22, 2021), the structure changed a lot. Every episode is different and every episode is entertaining! We will delve into whether we think nature made the criminals commit these heinous acts, or if it's simply their narcissism getting the best of them. Keep in mind, this podcast is strictly for entertainment purposes and is in no way a professional diagnosis of the subjects discussed.
Episodes
January 21, 2026 • 57 mins
In Part 3 of our three-part series, we step back and look at the bigger picture; why this case was framed the way it was, what comparisons help clarify versus distort, and how investigators ultimately honed in on Jonathan Gerlach.
After Part 1 established the headlines and charges, and Part 2 examined the investigation and the tension between fact and online speculation, this final episode focuses on context, contrast, and consequen...
After Part 1 established the headlines and charges, and Part 2 examined the investigation and the tension between fact and online speculation, this final episode focuses on context, contrast, and consequen...
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January 20, 2026 • 37 mins
In Part 2 of our three-part series, we move beyond the headlines and into the investigation itself; and just as importantly, into the space where verified facts collide with public assumption and social-media speculation.
After Part 1 laid out what Jonathan Gerlach was charged with and how the story first broke, this episode slows things down. We examine what investigators actually knew, when they knew it, and how information spread...
After Part 1 laid out what Jonathan Gerlach was charged with and how the story first broke, this episode slows things down. We examine what investigators actually knew, when they knew it, and how information spread...
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January 19, 2026 • 52 mins
In Part 1 of our three-part series, we begin where most people first encountered this case: the headlines.This episode breaks down what happened, what Jonathan Gerlach was charged with, and why this case immediately drew national attention. We move carefully through the facts; separating confirmed information from speculation, before briefly pulling back the curtain on what we currently know about his personal life and online prese...
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January 14, 2026 • 55 mins
On December 25th and 26th of 2025; we released a 2-parter on Luis Garavito (aka The Beast). Heather was joined by Cole (who suggested the disturbing case) to discuss Luis Alfredo Garavito Cubillos, also known as La Bestia (The Beast), was a Colombian serial killer, pedophile, sex offender, and necrophile. Between 1992 and 1999, he sexually assaulted over 200 victims and is believed to have sexually assaulted and murdered at least ...
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January 14, 2026 • 36 mins
On December 25th and 26th of 2025; we released a 2-parter on Luis Garavito (aka The Beast). Heather was joined by Cole (who suggested the disturbing case) to discuss Luis Alfredo Garavito Cubillos, also known as La Bestia (The Beast), was a Colombian serial killer, pedophile, sex offender, and necrophile. Between 1992 and 1999, he sexually assaulted over 200 victims and is believed to have sexually assaulted and murdered at least ...
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December 26, 2025 • 70 mins
⚠️ CONTENT WARNING
If Part 1 was about how the warning signs were ignored, Part 2 is where the consequences become horrifyingly clear.
This episode picks up where the slow burn ends; and where the true scale of the nightmare is revealed.Luis Alfredo Garavito Cubillos, infamously known as La Bestia (The Beast), went on to become one of the most prolific serial killers in recorded history.
Between 1992 and 1999, he sexually assaulted mo...
If Part 1 was about how the warning signs were ignored, Part 2 is where the consequences become horrifyingly clear.
This episode picks up where the slow burn ends; and where the true scale of the nightmare is revealed.Luis Alfredo Garavito Cubillos, infamously known as La Bestia (The Beast), went on to become one of the most prolific serial killers in recorded history.
Between 1992 and 1999, he sexually assaulted mo...
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December 25, 2025 • 45 mins
⚠️ CONTENT WARNING!!!!This episode discusses child sexual abuse, violence, and psychological instability. We avoid graphic detail, but the subject matter is inherently disturbing. Please listen with care!!!!
In this episode, we’re opening the door to one of the most disturbing cases in true-crime history - and we’re starting at the beginning, where the warning signs were loud, constant, and tragically ignored.Luis Alfredo Garavito C...
In this episode, we’re opening the door to one of the most disturbing cases in true-crime history - and we’re starting at the beginning, where the warning signs were loud, constant, and tragically ignored.Luis Alfredo Garavito C...
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June 16, 2025 • 44 mins
Karen Margaret Greenlee; born in 1958, was an apprentice embalmer in Sacramento, California who sexually assaulted over 40 deceased individuals. She called herself the “morgue rat”. She is considered as the "best-known modern practitioner of necrophilia", and her case was the subject of much research due to her sex as only ten percent of known necrophiles are women.
The first 4 ½ minutes is an announcement about this series and h...
The first 4 ½ minutes is an announcement about this series and h...
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October 31, 2024 • 39 mins
FINALE
As part of our 13 Days of Halloween - we added a series called Tricks N’ Treats! This series includes a video on Patreon where Heather and her guests blindly try weird/odd/different snacks and drinks. Each episode will include at least 3 snacks and at least 3 drinks that are rated on a scale of 1 (worst) to 6 (best). Each number in the scale is a particular Halloween candy.
The Scale:
As part of our 13 Days of Halloween - we added a series called Tricks N’ Treats! This series includes a video on Patreon where Heather and her guests blindly try weird/odd/different snacks and drinks. Each episode will include at least 3 snacks and at least 3 drinks that are rated on a scale of 1 (worst) to 6 (best). Each number in the scale is a particular Halloween candy.
The Scale:
- 6 - Reese’s Pumpkins
- 5 - M&M’s
- 4 ...
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October 31, 2024 • 16 mins
Day 31 of the Crimetober Series is about the Liske family murders, which occurred on October 31, 2010.
Sources
https://www.brainjet.com/random/1566961/crimes-committed-on-halloween/
http://www.sanduskyregister.com/story/201011220001
https://www.wvnstv.com/digital-desk/infamous-halloween-murders/amp/
https://www.businessinsider.com/murders-halloween-night-2018-10
https://alabamabioclean.com/frightening-crimes-that-happen-on-halloween/
...
Sources
https://www.brainjet.com/random/1566961/crimes-committed-on-halloween/
http://www.sanduskyregister.com/story/201011220001
https://www.wvnstv.com/digital-desk/infamous-halloween-murders/amp/
https://www.businessinsider.com/murders-halloween-night-2018-10
https://alabamabioclean.com/frightening-crimes-that-happen-on-halloween/
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October 30, 2024 • 10 mins
Day 30 of the Crimetober Series is about the murder of Martha Moxley, which occurred on October 30, 1975.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Martha_Moxley
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/who-killed-martha-moxley/
https://www.oxygen.com/murder-and-justice-the-case-of-martha-moxley
https://marthamoxley.com/
https://www.nytimes.com/topic/person/martha-moxley "Moxley Case: Who is Michael Skakel?". cnn.com. December 31, 2007. ...
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Martha_Moxley
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/who-killed-martha-moxley/
https://www.oxygen.com/murder-and-justice-the-case-of-martha-moxley
https://marthamoxley.com/
https://www.nytimes.com/topic/person/martha-moxley "Moxley Case: Who is Michael Skakel?". cnn.com. December 31, 2007. ...
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October 30, 2024 • 13 mins
PUPPAWEEN!!!
As part of our 13 Days of Halloween - we like to throw in some extra TREATS and give you fun episodes that are not all about eating things. For this episode, Heather & Becca brought in the DOGGOS!!!!! We wanted Gizmo, Luna Bear, and Rocket to try on Halloween costumes, eat some treats, and wear their cute little bandanas! ENJOY THE CHAOS OF CUTENESS!!!
As part of our 13 Days of Halloween - we like to throw in some extra TREATS and give you fun episodes that are not all about eating things. For this episode, Heather & Becca brought in the DOGGOS!!!!! We wanted Gizmo, Luna Bear, and Rocket to try on Halloween costumes, eat some treats, and wear their cute little bandanas! ENJOY THE CHAOS OF CUTENESS!!!
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October 29, 2024 • 9 mins
Day 29 of the Crimetober Series is about the murder of Tina Marie Harmon, which occurred on October 29, 1981.
Sources
https://popculturecrime.medium.com/today-in-true-crime-history-october-29-8563274bcf05
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Tina_Harmon
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/7366324/tina_marie-harmon
Renner, James (December 30, 2008). "Ghosts Of Wayne County Doubts Haunt An Old Murder And The Execution That Followed"...
Sources
https://popculturecrime.medium.com/today-in-true-crime-history-october-29-8563274bcf05
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Tina_Harmon
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/7366324/tina_marie-harmon
Renner, James (December 30, 2008). "Ghosts Of Wayne County Doubts Haunt An Old Murder And The Execution That Followed"...
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October 29, 2024 • 20 mins
Day 28 of the Crimetober Series is about the disappearance of Gloria Ann Gonzales, which occurred on October 28, 1971, and the other Texas Killing Fields’ victims.
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Sources
https://popculturecrime.medium.com/today-in-true-crime-history-october-28-da18ea0757e7
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/33354927/gloria_ann-gonzales
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Killing_Fields
https://www.fbi.gov/news/st...
I apologize for the late release
Sources
https://popculturecrime.medium.com/today-in-true-crime-history-october-28-da18ea0757e7
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/33354927/gloria_ann-gonzales
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Killing_Fields
https://www.fbi.gov/news/st...
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October 29, 2024 • 38 mins
Day 27 of the Crimetober Series is about the mass shooting at Fort Bragg, which occurred on October 27, 1995.
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Sources
https://www.nytimes.com/1996/06/13/us/paratrooper-sentenced-to-death-for-sniper-attack-at-fort-bragg.html
https://www.army.mil/article-amp/18701/judge_sets_sentence_for_bragg_shooting_spree
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Kreutzer_Jr.https://www.armfor.uscourts.gov/newcaaf/opinio...
I apologize for the late release
Sources
https://www.nytimes.com/1996/06/13/us/paratrooper-sentenced-to-death-for-sniper-attack-at-fort-bragg.html
https://www.army.mil/article-amp/18701/judge_sets_sentence_for_bragg_shooting_spree
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Kreutzer_Jr.https://www.armfor.uscourts.gov/newcaaf/opinio...
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October 29, 2024 • 19 mins
As part of our 13 Days of Halloween - we added a series called Tricks N’ Treats! This series includes a video on Patreon where Heather and her guests blindly try weird/odd/different snacks and drinks. Each episode will include at least 3 snacks and at least 3 drinks that are rated on a scale of 1 (worst) to 6 (best). Each number in the scale is a particular Halloween candy.
The Scale:
The Scale:
- 6 - Reese’s Pumpkins
- 5 - M&M’s
- 4 - Cara...
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October 28, 2024 • 26 mins
Day 26 of the Crimetober Series is about the murder of 16-year-old Sylvia Likens which occurred on October 26, 1965.
I apologize for the late release
Sources
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Sylvia_Likens
https://popculturecrime.medium.com/today-in-true-crime-history-october-26-6faa834dc0a3
https://sylviascac.org/sylvias-story/
https://www.indystar.com/story/news/history/retroindy/2013/10/24/sylvia-likens/3178393/
https://indy...
I apologize for the late release
Sources
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Sylvia_Likens
https://popculturecrime.medium.com/today-in-true-crime-history-october-26-6faa834dc0a3
https://sylviascac.org/sylvias-story/
https://www.indystar.com/story/news/history/retroindy/2013/10/24/sylvia-likens/3178393/
https://indy...
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October 28, 2024 • 26 mins
Day 25 of the Crimetober Series is a two-fer about the day that notorious gangster Albert Anastasia was killed, which occurred on October 25, 1957 and the day premiere of John Carpenter’s film ‘Halloween’, which occurred on October 25, 1978.
I apologize for the late release
Sources
https://www.thisdaytrivia.com/trivia/october-25
https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/59788/15-terrifying-facts-about-john-carpenters-halloween
https://www....
I apologize for the late release
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https://www.thisdaytrivia.com/trivia/october-25
https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/59788/15-terrifying-facts-about-john-carpenters-halloween
https://www....
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October 28, 2024 • 19 mins
As part of our 13 Days of Halloween - we added a series called Tricks N’ Treats! This series includes a video on Patreon where Heather and her guests blindly try weird/odd/different snacks and drinks. Each episode will include at least 3 snacks and at least 3 drinks that are rated on a scale of 1 (worst) to 6 (best). Each number in the scale is a particular Halloween candy.
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The Scale:
- 6 - Reese’s Pumpkins
- 5 - M&M’s
- 4 - Cara...
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October 27, 2024 • 7 mins
Day 24 of the Crimetober Series is about the day that Joseph David Emerson almost took down an entire plane, which occurred on October 24, 2023.
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https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/05/us/oregon-indictment-off-duty-pilot-engine-incident/index.html#:~:text=Off%2Dduty%20pilot%20Joseph%20D,a%20plane's%20engines%20mid%2Dflight.&text=Joseph%20Emerson%2C%20the%20Alaska%20Airlines,in%20an%20Oregon%20court...
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https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/05/us/oregon-indictment-off-duty-pilot-engine-incident/index.html#:~:text=Off%2Dduty%20pilot%20Joseph%20D,a%20plane's%20engines%20mid%2Dflight.&text=Joseph%20Emerson%2C%20the%20Alaska%20Airlines,in%20an%20Oregon%20court...
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