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This is the FCB Radio Network,Real Talk worldwide online at FCB radio dot
com. Into your rushed down putthe bush one of cs N day.
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Hello everybody, you have just happenedonce against necessary. I'm your girl,
Erica Rodriguez with me. You gotguards n c J, Cob godday,
Bud. What do see see?How the special treatment that I get?
CJ? Yeah, I do seethat? What is that? How does
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how does guards get this grand introductionin CJ? It's just some Joe smosy.
We want to deal with you lateron cee J. I mean,
right now, let's do this isthe love go ahead. But I'm good
by the way. I appreciate howyou do? How are you good?
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I mean I could be better,could be better? Why is that?
Guards? Why is that? Misterclowns? The Browns took a serious l
We don't have to go deep intothat right now. No, yes you
do. How are you doing rightnow? Buddy? How is your week?
You know what? My week wasall right? It was good.
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Um? How is your fan experience? My fan experience? You know what
again? Jacksonville, I know that'swhere you're going with this guard see Jacksonville's
fan experience is on par with nobodyelse. Okay, it's the best in
the NFL. Okay, don't evengetta Okay, well we'll talk about that
later on. Hold on, Okay, So I just don't get the great
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don't don't don't go too too deepinto with c J. We what we
want to say, the juicy stufffor you know, at the appropriate time,
you know, so at the appropriatetime. You know, everything has
a time. That's what I've heard. But you know, how was your
week though? Like, um,did you have a great day? How?
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Like what's new? Oh? Areyou talking to me now? Can
I speak? Day? It's allyours, buddy, Okay, thank you?
My week in my day was great. You know why because I'm standing
on this side of earth and notunderneath it. Okay, So, yes,
it's a great day. It's agreat week. Uh. And I
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got to go and vote. Ithought it was going to be long lines
and arguments, but everybody was reallynice. Even when I got lost and
almost went into the back room ofall the workings, they were very,
very very polite on escorting me outthe building. So well, yes,
that's awesome. Voting is good.Everybody go out and voting if you haven't
vote it ready. So yeah,ready, guys, let's talk about the
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Browns and the States. Yeah,God, you said ly the Browns was
you know, you said you theywas gonna win. So yeah, you
did. Here's the thing. I'malways going to say the Browns are gonna
win. That's just what it is. So that's optimism. Let's just get
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that out of the way for starters. I'm always going to say that because
it's any given Sunday, and don'tforget that any given Sunday, somebody can
step up and win a game thatyou do not think that they are supposed
to win. But it was.It was a bad el. It was
a bad el. Uh, itlooked bad u. The Steelers were putting
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constant pressure on the Browns and theBrowns just seem to not have an answer
for it. Uh. It waspretty crazy. And you could tell that
that Baker looked a little bit flusteredback there. Uh. So, you
know, they definitely got to tightenup on some things with the offensive line
because they got exposed. And youknow, I imagine that other teams are
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going to try to take a playout of the Steelers playbook. Uh,
you know, it doesn't help thatChubb is still out, you know,
because you know his running ability.I mean, of course we have we
have Kareem Hunt, he's spectacular too, but Chubb is just he's from a
different world when it pertains to meyour running back. So hopefully, you
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know, they tightened up that oldline and you know, we can move
forward and progress. Think that theBrowns can rebound from this loss or is
it just a typical Browns thing?Well, I don't want to get into
the whole Oh, it's a typicalBrowns thing. Of course they can rebound
from the loss. This is adifferent team that we have now than even
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we had last year. So aloss, you know, lost has happened
anytime that you're playing a game inany sport, and l can happen.
Now. Of course, the levelof l you know, is a little
bit high, but they definitely canrebound. I think yeah for me,
before I give it to U cJ. Is it time for a new
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quarterback? Or is Baker Mayfield stilldeveloping? What's your thoughts on that.
Here's the thing is that he's hadthree different coaches during his entire tenure as
a Cleveland Brown So that means threedifferent schemes, and you know, it's
a brand new scheme now than itwas last year. So how can a
quarterback truly develop when you're changing everythingall the time. So you have to
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give people time to develop. AndI know that as Cleveland fans, everybody
wants this like extraordinary and excellent stuffto just happen out of the blue and
randomly be spectacular. But that's justnot how the game is played. That's
not how it works. It's notjust going to be an overnight success and
turnaround like you have to build ontoit. So right now, we still
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have done something when we were fourand one, we did do something that
hasn't happened since nineteen ninety four.So we have to still be appreciative of
that and watch the growth and letthem grow without complaining. As quarterback,
as couch quarterbacks, what's your thing, Jake well Guard? You know all
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about being a couch quarterback, don'tyou. I haven't. I don't think
you could ever take the seven stepdrop back in throw it thirty yards,
much less fifty. Yeah, I'msure you do. You have an armor
legga ear of a back shoulder.Yeah. The one thing you don't have
his hair, but I digress.Listen. So the loss that the Browns
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took is it comes down to this. They've figured out the Browns weakness right
now, Obviously it's just stop therun and let Baker Mayfield have to beat
you. And right now it's proventhat Baker Mayfield cannot beat you if he
has to throw the ball. BakerMayfield is not going to be able to
dig you out of a hole justbecause he doesn't have a big enough shovel.
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Right now, as far as therun game goes with the Browns,
yes, it hurts to lose NickChubb because he was part of that big
one two punch with Kareem Hunt.But Kareem Hunt is no slouch. He's
still a Pro Bowl caliber running back, a special running back who made all
kinds of great strides in Kansas City, and you hope that that would start
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showing himself more now that he isthe main option in Cleveland. But if
you load the box against the Browns, with the offensive lines that they have
not being able to open holes andget him open, your team is pretty
much one dimensional. Now you're puttingeverything on Baker to pick the defenses apart
and right now it does show ordoesn't look like Baker really can understand how
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the defenses are moving and adjusting toto uh, the formations on the field.
So to kind of answer your otherquestion, Erica, I agree with
Guards on the fact that Baker hashad multiple coaches and and different offenses that
he's had to learn, So Icut him a little slack there. However,
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a little bit, a little bit, bro, this is what year
three, right, Guards, You'reright here. Three you have we have
to see some sort of progression,and right now, I don't know.
Without the run game, it lookslike Baker regresses back to running around scared
for his life he did. It'snot a good look right now for the
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Browns. All right, guys,So listen, we have a little lesson
three minutes Michael C J. Thejab Wars versus the line. We're gonna
go to you first because I'm allowedto say, what's your thoughts? Do
you still I mean, we haveto go back to the question I asked
a few I think it was lastsegment or I'm sorry last week. Do
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you think that they need a newneed? Do they think I apologized?
Do you think look I get it. It's hard to do. You think
they need a new coach the Jaguars, Like, what's going on? I
think they need a new coach.Okay, So let me put it to
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you this way. Our coach issmart like a fox right now. See
what he's doing is having the teamlaid low. He is ducking all expectations.
See now, at this point,nobody expects the Jaguars to do anything
except for the true Jaguar fans.We know and we believe that they can
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overcome in the obstacle at some point. So what we are training to do
this is this is like ninja training. Okay, this is ninja training for
the Jaguars. What we're doing isluring everybody into a false sense of security
by lowering our standard of play sothat when the time comes to strike,
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we're there, baby, We strikewith deadly accuracy, and then we're on
our way. We're on the riseright now. Yep, I see it
coming, It's coming, It's coming. What what y'all lost to the Detroit
Lions? Listen, Detroit has alot of things going. They have a
lot of automotive. They have agreat automotive industry that's on the rise.
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You know, they talk about football. Yeah, they have, they have,
they have history in football. Theyhave the great Barry standards. You
know, maybe they channeled some ofthem. Store to sixteen. Well,
at least we scored in the doubledigit team me, me, me,
yeah. But winning fair, youscored seven points. Game score, you
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scored seven points. That's all.Like I said, we're luring everybody into
a false sense of security so thatwhen the time is right, the jaguars
will strike, much like actual jaguarsin the jungle, dude to their prey.
He got bars. I I know, I got bars, all right,
and I got faith. It's notsitting the jaguars get mad at me,
man, I'm not getting mad atyou though. I'm not getting mad.
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I didn't lose it. You didn't. I didn't cause you to lose.
He did. Look about y'all,y'all lost. Don't try to switch
the conversation. No, I'm nottrying to switch. I'm just saying,
we at least into the We atleast scored into the double digits. You
only score seven points, your elvesare multiplied, your ells multiplied r els.
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So we played. We played sometough competition, all right. Lost
the Lions the Lions are a teamalso on the rise. All Right,
I have T J. Hawkinson onmy fantasy team and he's a good later.
So yeah, okay, all right, guys, all right, all
right, we're gonna have to bringit back, all right. So because
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take a quick break. Before wego on a break, we have an
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we have an amazing interview for youguys. We have the first Latino
to represent the Highling Kansas jast Itby Indianapolis Colts in two thousand and seven,
signed with New England Patriots in twothousand and twelve, Anthony Gonzalez.
Way far, I love my Hispanicpeople. Dario the micas on you.
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You just wanted to be able tosay, Webpop. I had to welcome
to my buddy Anthony Gonzalez, congressmanfrom a great state of Ohio and former
Indianapolis coach. Welcome to the showman. How you doing I'm doing well,
Thank you for having me. Awesome, awesome, So we've we've done
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interviews before on other shows on thenetwork, and it's usually you know,
about the news of the day andpolitics and stuff like that. This is
the first time and we've actually hada chance to talk about some sports.
So talk a little bit about first, just what your experience was like playing.
First, Let's let's go to Ignationbecause you've been a big programs the
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from high school on, because youwent to Ignatius, then you went to
Ohio State, then you were inthe NFL. So talk about what those
experiences were like, going from abig program locally to the biggest football program
in the state, to then makingit to the NFL. Yeah, well,
great question. So I'll just speakexclusively about the coaches that I had
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and and sort of the leaders thatI was exposed to, which I sometimes
you just get lucky in life,right, and in my football career,
I was immensely lucky. So umad Ignatious. I played for a Hall
of Fame coach Chuck Kyle, learneda ton from him, and obviously,
um that was a big stage forfor a high school kid, and I
loved every second of it. Andyou learn a lot about the game.
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But but really. You know,from from people like Chuck Kyle, you
learn about life and you learn aboutleadership From there, went on to Ohio
State, same thing, and anotherHall of Fame coach, with which coach
Jim Tressel still one of my mentorsto this day. Somebody I talked to
about every big decision that I makein my life. Talked to him about,
you know, whether I should proposeto my now wife, talk to
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about whether I should get into Congressand run for political office, all these
big decisions, whether I should goto business. UM. I kind of
sort of lean on him because he'ssuch a wise person. UM, and
try to emulate him in a lotof ways. So I got lucky there.
And then in the NFL. Youknow, my first coach was Tony
Dungee, who, um, youknow, the first black coach to win
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a Super Bowl. He and LoveySmith were the first two to ever coach
in one uh and um, andthat was the year before I got to
Indianapolis. But um, an unbelievableleader and an even better guy. And
again somebody I lean on quite abit. I talked to him, Um,
you know, earlier this summer whenwhen George Floyd was killed in the
social unrest, and and just sortof how I can be a more productive
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voice and a better leader, UMinside our community. And those are all
things that you know, those areexperiences getting to be led by those incredible
leaders UM that again, you sometimesyou just get lucky and and I UM
and I did and have been luckyto be around those guys and just try
to do what I can to takewhat they've taught me and apply it to
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my own life. No one,I fall short every day, but but
they're so incredible And but for football, I would not have had that.
So I'm immensely grateful for that opportunity, right. And one of the things
that we that we like to talkabout a lot on the show. We've
had several former athletes, former footballplayers, and we like to talk a
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lot about that experience and how thatthe experience that you got in the league
or through playing professional sports, whatyou were able to translate to the next
phase of your life. So,as you are now in Congress, were
there anything that you learned? Ithink you touched on it a little bit
in the previous question, but arethere were there anything that you learned along
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the way in those locker rooms inthose experiences that was able that you were
able to take, that was ableto translate as you made a run for
Congress and now being in Congress andworking on behalf of American people. Yeah,
so I mean the leadership component forsure, Right, you try to
take those lessons and apply them.And again, I you know, I
wouldn't put myself anywhere near the categoryof those those great, great men.
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But um, but you know that'sthat's a big one. And I always
knew. I was always a veryaware that I was being led by incredible
people, and so I tried totake notes and those sorts of things.
I'll give you another one though,that maybe is even more applicable. Um.
So, you know, my NFLcareer, I was draft in the
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first round, but ultimately it didn'tpan out anywhere near how I wanted to
or or my team wanted to.I I basically played for two years and
then was hurt for three years.Um, and so you know, it
just didn't go the way I wantedto, and it was immensely disappointing.
And so obviously, you you know, the outside voices come in and start
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bashing in. You know, youwere a bust and all these sorts of
things, and yeah, some extendedthrough UM and so you know, dealing
with that, and I'll be honest, I didn't deal with it great at
that point. I was twenty sixyears old, twenty seven years old,
and I let it get to memore than it should have, and my
skin wasn't as thick as it probablyneeded to be. UM. But going
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through that process and coming out okayon the other side, I ultimately went
to Stanford Business School, got anNBA, ran a business UM, sort
of recovered and got my life backbefore getting into politics. Going through that
and being in the fire and gettingyou know, hit pretty hard by the
media and WHATNOTUM prepared me pretty wellfor this. That's a great action.
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I just thought about that like wow, yeah, okay, Yeah, it
felt like for the enemy all thetime, which is how politics feels in
a lot of ways. Uh.You know that at NFL experience, which
didn't go the way I wanted toUM that Uh that has has made I
think made me stronger in this roleand have given me an ability to just
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keep moving even if you know there'scritics on either side. Well, one
thing, uh that we talked abouta couple of weeks ago on the show,
was you know, college athletes beingcompensated, you know, for their
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skill, for their talent and whatthey actually bring to these schools and uh
these universities. Uh when it pertainsto you know, how much money that
they actually bring to the universities byyou know, that's basically off of their
skill. Uh. Now, Iknow a couple of years ago, one
thing that you sponsored, I believewas, uh was a bill to get
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that that college athletes could actually monitorzeis their name and likeness? Could you
talk about that a little bit?Yeah, So, uh, we just
introduced this a couple months ago,and this is an issue that frankly,
I was thinking about when I wasin college football. So, um,
you know, let's let's just behonest, right these kids. The scholarship
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is enormously valuable and the opportunity toplay college sports is unparalleled. To change
my life. I have nothing butpositive things to say about that, and
that's true for probably you know,ninety nine percent of college athletes. My
wife is a college athlete, andjust a you know, an incredible experience.
That being said, Um, youknow, the reality is these athletes
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in many instances could market themselves.That could be as much as you know,
uh, signing a shoe deal foryou know, a couple hundred thousand
dollars, but it could be assmall as teaching swimming lessons in the summer.
You know, if you're if you'rea swimmer. Right the way the
polls are set up today, youcan't do either one of those things or
anything in between. So the thoughtthat that we had was, well,
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that doesn't really make sense. Youknow, college athletes right now are the
only people in the country who cannotcapitalize off their own name, image,
and likeness. The only people inthe country, even members of Congress could.
I could write a book and sellit, and you know, that's
capitalizing off name, image and likeness. Athletes can't. That didn't make sense
to me. So I said,why don't we put a bill forward that
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would allow for this and clean upsome of the state laws because there were
different states. This was the realcatalyst. Different states had passed their own
laws, so you had, youknow, fifty states with thirty different name,
image and likeness laws. So wesaid, well, that's kind of
chaotic, but let's pass one lawthat applies all across the country and allows
for the college athlete to do thisbecause I think it's an important right.
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And you know, the truth ofthe matter is what we're talking about in
most instances is you know, minoritykids from tough backgrounds who this might be
the only opportunity they have to dosomething like this. And so I think
it's an important an important right,because not every great college football player is
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a great pro right. They canyou know, if they have a marketable
skill set, they can they canapply it. And so that's what we're
trying to do. UM. Youknow, I think we're probably gonna revisit
this early next Congress. Right now, we're still dealing with COVID and all
that, But once we get intothe next Congress, I think we'll we'll
start to revisit it UM. AndI'm really proud of the work we've done
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so far. It's it's a bipartisanbill. We've got members of Congressional Black
Caucus, We've got some of themost progressive members, we've got some of
the most conservative members in Congress.So we're really we're trying to hit as
many constituencies as possible and really buildthat base out so we can get this
done. And now you guys,we have to take a quick quick break.
We'll be right back. Stay tunedfor the rest of this interview.
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Welcome back to this amazing interview thatwe have where Anthony Gonzalez really think
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it's a it's a great idea.Um. You know, I used to
live in Columbus for a few yearsand you know, you we know how
big the Buckey's football is down there, and you know a place like that
is you know or any you know, big school that has a has a
strong football program, strong sports program. I should say, you know,
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these kids out there should have theability, you know, if they want
to endorse or sign on to promotea pizza place down there, or you
know, to get on a commercialfor a car or something like that.
I think that they should be ableto do that without being reprimanded. Uh,
you know, because I think thatthat's gonna also accomplish a few things.
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Is that if they do get tothe next level, it's going to
put them in the position so theyunderstand money early, you know what I
mean. And then next in additionto that, that's gonna also for those
that don't go to the next level, that's going to position them to expand
their career, you know, inanother direction, if they don't go to
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the NFL or go pro. Itotally agree. And I'll give you another
one I think that is underappreciated rightnow, is you know, if you
know that you are in fact ableto do this, I think the way
you present yourself on social media,the way that you present yourself in public,
you're going to be more aware ofsort of out there right absolutely,
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because hey, if I say somethingreally stupid, if I post something really
dumb, you know, I'm ultimatelygoing to cost myself money here. So
I think it'll force kids to matureand to favier you know, business people.
Uh. And that's again, that'smen and women, right. I
told my college swimmer, you know, she wasn't allowed to teach swim lessons.
She wouldn't allowed to do anything.Um, you know, so it's
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the same, it's the same thing. I think it cuts across all sports.
It's going to apply differently for eachsport, all genders, and and
I think it's just a good stepforward. Well, and it's it's it's
a it's a brilliant idea too,because I know obviously, you know,
in the country, there's been thisdebate for a while about whether college athletes
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should be paid or not. Andone of the issues that people had had
with that was the possible negative impactthat can have on the schools if the
schools had to pay the athletes.Well, in this the you're not the
the athletes can go get their ownmoney, they can get their own market,
their own image, and likeli,it has virtually no negative impact on
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the school itself at all. It'snot money that has to come out of
their coffers, allowing the student athletesto get somebody else to pay them exactly.
And you know the other issue withthe employment model, right, if
you wanted to say, hey,well they should be employed by the university,
well that means they can be fired. And so you know, if
you're talking about a seventeen year oldkid, right, and I played with
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a bunch of heck, this wasme. I came to I came from
Saint Ignatius, which is a greatschool, with great background all that stuff.
I was so immature, I washomesick. I was heartbroken. You
know, my high school girlfriend brokemy heart. You know, God forbid,
and as happens from time to timewhen you go away to college.
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But in any event, you know, I wasn't playing, I read shirted,
I wasn't doing well in school.You know, if you would have
evaluated me after that first year,you'd say, hey, you know,
maybe this guy's not going to workout, Maybe we should fire him and
you know, bring somebody else in. That's what happened if you're in the
employment model. But if you're inthe traditional scholarship mode, but you allow
for name, image and likeness.You know, now, nothing's really changed
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for the athlete other than there's anadditional opportunity that didn't exist before. Absolutely.
Absolutely. We're talking with the CongressmanAnthony Gonzalez, and I mean,
man, you have a really fascinatingand awesome story just from from where you
come from to where you've where you'vegotten to being able to be in the
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halls of Congress. One thing thatum, you and I haven't really talked
that much about is like is thelike the the origin of your background story.
I know your your parents came overhere from Cuba? Correct my father?
Yes, my mother was born here, but my father was born in
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Cuba. Yeah, okay, Andso did he come over after Castro?
Yeah? So, um, youknow the quick version Castro took over,
um, and you know he wasstarting to round up followers basically, uh.
And it was a you know,are you in or out? Um?
If you were out, it wasn'tgonna be so good for you.
Um. And so um, mygrandmother took her kids. They went off
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and kind of hid. This isn'tthe right parallel, but sort of like
an underground railroad of sorts. Theywere waiting for a visa to get processed
so that they could so they couldescape, so they could come to the
US. UM. And so theywere hanging out in friends' houses and basements
and all that m just trying toavoid capture because the Castro folks were looking
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for him and um. And thenthey ultimately came to Miami. They were
in Miami for like a month andthen then up to Cincinnati actually, um,
and you know that's that's there thenwhere where they started building their life.
And UM, you know, myfather started to steal business the year
before I was born. Uh,he started out in eighty three. I
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was born eighty four, and um, you know runs it to this day.
And and that's sort of when whenI think of the country and I
think of our country, I'm I'mso I mean, look, we've got
flaws, everybody knows that, butI'm so proud of this country. This
country is unbelievable. I mean,for for my story to even exist is
is a testament to just the opportunitythat's out there. Now we have to
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extend that opportunity to everybody. Right. But but the notion that you could
escape a communist regime come here withnothing no, nobody not speak the language.
And then within one generation, youknow, you can build a business
and your kid can serve in Congress. And that just doesn't happen everywhere.
In fact, it almost happens nowhere. So UM, you know it's um,
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you know, it's it's really justone of again, when I think
of our country, I just loveI love our country. I'm proud of
our country, and I think it'san amazing place despite our flaws. Um,
but you know, that's that's whatI think of when I think of
sort of what's possible here? Right, I know, um, I know
one of the uh okay, yeah, and then right after that we'll go
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you here good. I know.Guards and I have have this conversation,
Um, we've had it several timesprivately, just about how our family,
how much our family stories had impactedus personally, and and knowing knowing our
our individual family histories and stuff likethat, Um, what kind of impact
did knowing all of that, knowingwhat your what's your father and your family
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went through to get here and allthat, how much of an impact did
that have one on you personally?Just knowing that that family history, Oh,
an enormous impact I mean, so, you know, my father's mother,
Maya Boila, she was, youknow, my best friend growing up.
She lived with us my grandfather hepassed away when when I was in
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the third grade, and then shelived with us basically, you know,
until I graduated high school. Umand uh. And she was the one
I always talked to about this stuff, and I would I asked her to
write a book. She wrote hermemoirs before she passed away. Um and
so knowing her story, and itwas actually so of those conversations with her
that ultimately led me to want torun for Congress because she always used to
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say something to the effect of,look, if you ever see your country
going in a direction that doesn't feelright, where you just know in your
in your gut that you know thingsaren't moving in the best best direction,
you have an obligation to get involved. And that doesn't mean you run for
office, but you have an obligationto try to save your country, because
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you know, I lost my countryand I had to leave my country,
and I don't I didn't have anywhereto go. If I didn't have America,
I wouldn't have had anywhere to go. And so you know that those
lessons and those conversations with her havealways been in the back of my mind,
knowing, you know, if Iever felt like, hey, the
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country needs service and I feel likeI can provide it. I'm not saying
I'm going to solve all the problemsin the world, right, but but
just if I think I could makethings better, then I I had had
an obligation to do it. Withher voice in my head that I decided
to get into this absolutely great Erica. We're talking about your culture and you're
from here. What's what's it liketo be the first latinos to represent Ohio
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in Congress? You know it's abig honor. Um it Uh, you
know, I don't want to Idon't want this to sound um, I
guess arrogant. So there's a there'sa phrase out there which is if you
can't see it, you can't beit. Right there's you hear that a
lot. Um. I don't believein that phrase. I believe that if
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you see something that's never been donebefore and it's important and you think you
can do it, then damn it, you go do it. That's That's
what That's what I believe. Um. And you know, I knew when
I got into this that that nobodythat that no Latino I had ever been
elected to Congress in the state ofOhio. Um. And I was told,
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frankly, by a lot of peoplein my own party. You know,
nobody with the last name Gonzales isgoing to win a Republican primary.
I was I was told that bya lot of people. And I said,
well, you know, we'll see. I don't think you you understand
the voters like I think I do, but we'll see. Um and so.
Um. You know, you youtake all that and you use it
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as fuel more than anything. Umand uh and so you you know,
for me, personally, I'm incrediblyproud of it. But you know,
at the same time, I'll saythis, I and I've said this in
other forms before, I personally needto do a better job of making sure
that the Latino voice is heard moreloudly in Congress. I am the vice
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chair of the Diversity and Inclusion sorright vice ranking member of the Diversity Inclusion
Subcommittee on Financial Services, and I'vedone work there that I'm proud of.
Um, but I can still domore, and I want to do more.
And if I'm re elected, Iplan to so. Um, but
it's it isn't amazing honor. Andyou know, I just know I know
that if my grandmother were still here, she'd be very proud, and that,
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you know, you know, thatmeans the world to me. Absolutely,
absolutely, go ahead, guards,Uh, do you have something else
you want to think? I wasgonna say, what what you just mentioned
is? You know, Uh,I think that it's positive that you know,
if you you feel that you cando more, I think that that
is the first stepped into doing more, you know what I mean. So
that's that's a positive thing. UhSo, we definitely appreciate you taking some
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time out and answering these questions righthere. Um, so here's my question.
We're gonna switch switch back to sportsright now because I know you're you're
from the Land. Uh So,you're you're a Browns fan. I'm assuming,
oh yeah, so so, andI know, of course since you
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since you play with them, I'massuming you're also a Colts fan as well.
I'm a Cults fan, but I'mreally a Browns fan. I got
you when they got the same recordnow right, they got the same record
down right? So what so whatis your take on the Browns this year.
So I think the Browns have froma pure talent standpoint, Uh,
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their their offense. You know,if you get Nick chubbback, I think
they're probably a top three offense inthe NFL because they can run the ball
so well. I got big questionsabout Baker, um, but uh,
you know, if he if Bakerjust doesn't turn the ball over, and
the Browns can run the ball theway they do, they're a really hard
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team to beat. I mean,you know, it's it's all comes down
to turnovers. If we could justprotect the football, I think that's a
ten eleven win team. Um ifif we throw a lot of interceptions or
fumbles, uh, you know,then you're looking at a seven to eight
win team. But the pure,the pure talent level is unbelievable. Like
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what other receiving group would you ratherhave? Which other tight ends would you
rather have? Which other offensive linewould you rather have? Which other running
backs would you rather have? There'snobody I don't that I can see in
the NFL. Um, but thequarterback position we need to do better there.
Yeah. I after watching this,uh last week's game, I was
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like they were putting so much pressureon him. I'm like, but but
it seemed that like he was gettingnervous. Well, I'll say this,
my offensive coordinator, his names inIndia's name is Tom Moore. Just an
old grizzled veteran. You's looking atme. He just looks like an offensive
coordinator, sort of look at him. But he um. He had a
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saying just a little crewd which isyou could take all these past plays and
wipe yourself with him if you can'tblock. And so that's actually great.
I think I'm gonna use that touse that. I like that a lot.
Yeah, I mean he said thatafter one week. You know,
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we had Peyton Manning as our quarterback, so one week he got hit.
You know, I don't know morethan normal. And that was the only
thing he said to us that week. None of these plays me in anything
if he's on his back. Soyou've got to find a way to block,
right, absolutely all right. Leteverybody know how to keep up with
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you on social media, how tofollow you, to know you're in the
middle of a campaign. Got acouple of weeks left, so if they
want to get any more information aboutthat as well, the website, all
that good stuff. Yeah, Soat rep A Gonzalez with two zis is
my official Twitter account. At AnthonyGonzalez is my personal one, though for
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my sanity, I have gotten offof Twitter. Um it's not bad,
not a bad decision, not abad COVID innovation. My wife was like,
all right, I'm like this isalready bad enough and you're in a
bad mood, Like you got toget off that stupid So that was that
(40:07):
was her genius. Um, soI don't post much on it, but
um, but the at rep aGonzalez is probably the best, the best
one, and then vote. AnthonyGonzalez dot com is our our campaign site.
Um, but uh, you knowthose are the best ways. But
really, just appreciate you guys havingme on always great. Uh, great
being with you, great to meetmy two new friends Darby, always great
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to be with you. Absolutely,thank you so much, man, I
really appreciate special thanks for Anthony Gonvalisyou guys, stay tuned. Will be
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podcasts today. This is necessary roughness. Welcome back, This is necessary roughness,
all right, Genien sol If youhaven't already heard the writers, Trent
Brown was placed on the reserve COVIDlist, which sends five starters back home.
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So my question, should the NFLcreate a bubble like the NBA?
What do you guys think? Guards? Let's start with you, um I
don't know if they would be ableto create a huge bubble, uh like
they did with the NBA. Imean, the NBA did like a great
job with it, you know,I think, but there's so many more
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people that are involved with the footballgame. So I don't know if if
they could create a bubble on thelarge scale. But you know, maybe
individual teams can create something. Butthey're gonna have to though. They're gonna
have to figure something out because oneplayer can literally infect the entire team and
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screw up any chances of that teamgoing forward into the playoffs or into the
remainder of the seven season. Evenso something is going to have to be
done. What do you think,see J Yeah, just like Garb said,
as far as bringing NFL teams intoa bubble, that is a tall
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order to ask. There's just waytoo many people involved. I mean from
the training staff to front office staffto the players, and then you got
to think about players families, coaches, coaches families. You got the equipment
managers, not only you know thearena attendants who run the clocks and things,
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but you got the referees and it'sjust so many it it'd be a
logistical nightmare to try and get allthose people into a bubble and keep them
isolated. Plus, you gotta lookat when the NBA did it and where
the NFL is now. The NBAdid it, they're already what most of
the way through their season, gettingready to head into the playoffs, so
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they had less time to really finishedout the remainder of the season. We're
kind of right in the beginning partof the NFL season, So to put
that many people in one shared spacefor that long, it's just a recipe
for a really disaster. I don'tthink the players would be able to handle
it. I don't think a lotof people would be able to handle it.
I mean, look how most ofthe country handled being quarantine for the
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months that we've been in quarantine.I mean, Garbs almost grew like a
chin hair, that's how crazy thingsgot for him. So I can grow,
I can grow a beard, bro, I can go. I don't
know. So the NBA, likeGarbs said, the NBA did a great
job with it. With the timingof the COVID and quarantine happening, and
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with the remainder of their season left, the NBA did the best they could,
and really did a great job withit. But the NFL, that's
a completely different ball game and differentvery difficult. It'd be very difficult to
pull off. Okay, So beforewe even began recording, we had a
great there was a great conversation thatactually began about this, about this topic.
So we're gonna bring in Dario.Dario, Um, let's let's hear
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what he has to say about thistopic. Also. Yeah, so um,
Guards and I were discussing this beforethe show started. Um, And
it does seem like it would behard to do. I know, the
teams did their own bubbles for like, uh for many camps and stuff like
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that, but it was each teambasically had a bubble. So with the
NFL there's just so many different personnow. But if if players continue to
be careless and not take the properprecautions and end up getting COVID, something's
gonna be done. They're gonna haveto do something because it's either that or
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you're gonna end up losing the season. So I mean, and I'll toss
this to you, Guards, like, what in that situation, what do
you do? Because they're gonna ifthe players are going to continue to catch
COVID they're gonna have to do something. Yeah, I mean the players are
gonna have to be responsible first andforemost, because you know, like if
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you're they're going out and kicking itand hanging out, you know, and
or having parties and whatnot, younever know who is coming into those parties
or what they're bringing with them.So you know, they're gonna have to
be super careful and extra precautious aboutthis thing because it really can affect their
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income, you know, their incomeand their livelihood even beyond just winning or
playing the game itself. So youknow, I think that the teams are
individually are gonna have to put someresponsibility on these players and potentially create some
sort of mini bubble type of situationbecause it's obvious that the whole testing thing
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is not full proof. Rights onthat real quick, Yeah, I would
have to agree at this point.It really falls on responsibility of the players
and the coaches and the coaches tocreate an environment to where we can keep
everybody safe. And we need tostart with making sure that everybody associated with
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the team is taking this pandemic seriouslybecause I think that's one where where we're
missing the ball at is players arekind of just, oh, yeah,
there's a pandemic out, but I'mstill gonna go do my thing. You
know, I'm still gonna go outkick it whatever. Like Garb said,
so the coaches need to have asit down with the players and say,
look, we got so many moredays in this season. Now. We
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can either continue to go as we'regoing, where guys are kind of free
to do as they will, orwe can really lock this thing down and
make sure that we are taking itseriously and pretty much do what's best for
each other and keep each other keepingeach other safe and making sure that we
stayed quarantine and trying not to putourselves in harm's way anymore, because,
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like you said, too many playersnow are popping up on this list,
and some of our big name players, I mean, Cam Newton just got
on this list. He just hadit and you know, praying that nothing's
happened to him or he didn't feeltoo sick or anything, or that nobody
he knows has caught it from him. But that's big. When when a
guy is with the bigger name isCam Newton catches it, that lets you
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know that this thing needs to betaken seriously and the NFL Commissioner, owners,
head coaches. Everybody needs to atsome point have some sort of sit
down with everybody and really lock thisthing down. All right, That's that
was good. All right, let'slet's wrap that up before we began.
You, guys, this is thetime I know everybody has been waiting for.
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Let's go in, So taking themto do. Yes, a man,
a man, and a man givingall praises to the big fellow upstairs
for keeping our lights on and keepingour spirits strong. And of course praise
me to you for joining us heretoday. I am the honorable Reverend Doctor.
I'll be good and I welcome youhere to the feet of faith,
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hands of healing, heart of hopeand helping Tabernacle of TwixT, kit of
cat, laugh of taffes, snickof curse, start of verse, the
most holiest and jolliest of ranchers,crunch of bars, m of M's New
International Temple of Rec's pecs, Cupsand Fellowship Incorporated Church. Before I get
started, amen, Deacon guards,let me ask you a question, what
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would you do for condact bar don'tanswer that. I've witnessed you do stranger
things for less. Let us notforget about the time you drink a mushroom
kale with sabi and Jim Socks SweatFlavor smoothie just for an opportunity to meet
eighty superstar David Hasselhaus, impersonator atthe Walmart and Cleveland Still Yard shopping District.
I pray might live for your commonsense and digestive system that night,
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My brother Church, as you've undoubtedlynoticed, we have another slight tweak in
the name this week, as theDevil's Day all Hollow's Eve approaches us at
the end of this month. Withthat our most gracis of benefactors, the
patron Saint Uncle Luke and the apostlesof the Two Live Crew, who still
hold the naming rights to the church, have entered into a tentative agreement with
the Mars Candy Corporation to use thechurch for a co sponsored event called Mars
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Candy Presents Uncle Luke's Tricks and TreatsHalloween Costume Contest twenty twenty. Rest assured
Church, Luke has assured me itwill be a very hopeful and holy event.
Praise Bee. But speaking of tricksand treats, watching the football landscape
this past weekend was definitely full oftricks and low on the treats, as
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multiple teams from college to the NFLtook the field of play last week and
got completely blown off of it.From the Buccaneers beating Guitar out of the
package thirty eight to ten, theSteelers beat in the Browns thirty eight to
seven, and yes, Church,our beloved Jaguars lost in the Detroit Lines
thirty four to sixteen. Still,even though the Jags scored nine more points
than the Browns did, they stilltook a nail, Yes crazbee, even
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in prime time a when this onefor Dak inspired Cowboys look completely uninspired against
the Cardinals in a thirty eighth toten lost Monday Night. But the ones
that took the proverbial cake were thegames between Clemson and Georgia Tech and the
Dolphins versus the Jets. Clemson trickedall over the Yellow Jackets seventy three to
seven. I heard even at halftimethe Clemson band and the football team switched
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places, and they still beat thesenseless senses out of the Yellow Jackets.
While may I add playing the flightof the Bumblebee song just to add insult
to injury. But at least GeorgiaTech was able to score, unlike the
New York Paper Airplanes, who Ican't really call Jets anymore because their failure
to launch it truly all inspired,Church, do you smell that? I
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believe that funk you're smelling is askunk? The Jets got beat by the
Dolphins twenty four to a big vatSmelly gousegg. My lord. They are
bad, and now they've also decidedto part ways with their big ticket of
a running back in lev Yon Bell, who has left the team for greena
pastors in Kansas City Church. It'ssafe to say now that the Jets are
a lock for that number one spotin the draft. At least that one
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will be a win in the wind. Calling Amen now, Deacon Guards,
Deacon as Erica, please close andlock the sanctuary doors, but keep the
windows cracked to let some of thisskunk funk out as we take up a
collection for the teams that got blownaway by their superior competition last week.
Amen, and remember, Church,no matter how crazy this world make it
or how big an elle we maytake it, you never have to worry
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about me, because I'll be goodhallelujah, thank you, thank you.
All right, you guys, wehave less than a minute, let's say,
final final thoughts. CEJ started off, what's your final thoughts for the
day. Well, thank you,Erica. Finally I get a chance to
start it off well. And don'tlook at to tell the people how they
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you know, how they can catchup with you in your social of course.
Of course you can follow me onInstagram and Twitter at King Cobb seventy
on Facebook CJ Cobb. Just rememberthe Jaguars right now are in Ninja treating
we laid low, laid low tospring up in surprise attack our foes.
Garbs on you. Yeah, afterthat, all I have to just say
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is follow me at garbe infinite forthe truth about the Jaguars. Yeah,
whatever about your hairline, which youain't got what are you mad? Are
you mad? All right, youguys. And before we wrap it up,
I want to say a quick restingpiece to my cousin Angelo Catala,
who passed away on the twenty first, five thirty in the morning. You
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know, he passed away from afatal shot. And at them, I
just want, I just want tosay to everybody that lost the family member.
My heart goes out to you untilnext time you guys, meet us
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Hello everybody, you have just happenedonce against necessary. I'm your girl,
Erica Rodriguez with me. You gotguards n c J, Cob godday,
Bud. What do see see?How the special treatment that I get?
CJ? Yeah, I do seethat? What is that? How does
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how does guards get this grand introductionin CJ? It's just some Joe smosy.
We want to deal with you lateron cee J. I mean,
right now, let's do this isthe love go ahead. But I'm good
by the way. I appreciate howyou do? How are you good?
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I mean I could be better,could be better? Why is that?
Guards? Why is that? Misterclowns? The Browns took a serious l
We don't have to go deep intothat right now. No, yes you
do. How are you doing rightnow? Buddy? How is your week?
You know what? My week wasall right? It was good.
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Um? How is your fan experience? My fan experience? You know what
again? Jacksonville, I know that'swhere you're going with this guard see Jacksonville's
fan experience is on par with nobodyelse. Okay, it's the best in
the NFL. Okay, don't evengetta Okay, well we'll talk about that
later on. Hold on, Okay, So I just don't get the great
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don't don't don't go too too deepinto with c J. We what we
want to say, the juicy stufffor you know, at the appropriate time,
you know, so at the appropriatetime. You know, everything has
a time. That's what I've heard. But you know, how was your
week though? Like, um,did you have a great day? How?
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Like what's new? Oh? Areyou talking to me now? Can
I speak? Day? It's allyours, buddy, Okay, thank you?
My week in my day was great. You know why because I'm standing
on this side of earth and notunderneath it. Okay, So, yes,
it's a great day. It's agreat week. Uh. And I
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got to go and vote. Ithought it was going to be long lines
and arguments, but everybody was reallynice. Even when I got lost and
almost went into the back room ofall the workings, they were very,
very very polite on escorting me outthe building. So well, yes,
that's awesome. Voting is good.Everybody go out and voting if you haven't
vote it ready. So yeah,ready, guys, let's talk about the
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Browns and the States. Yeah,God, you said ly the Browns was
you know, you said you theywas gonna win. So yeah, you
did. Here's the thing. I'malways going to say the Browns are gonna
win. That's just what it is. So that's optimism. Let's just get
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that out of the way for starters. I'm always going to say that because
it's any given Sunday, and don'tforget that any given Sunday, somebody can
step up and win a game thatyou do not think that they are supposed
to win. But it was.It was a bad el. It was
a bad el. Uh, itlooked bad u. The Steelers were putting
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constant pressure on the Browns and theBrowns just seem to not have an answer
for it. Uh. It waspretty crazy. And you could tell that
that Baker looked a little bit flusteredback there. Uh. So, you
know, they definitely got to tightenup on some things with the offensive line
because they got exposed. And youknow, I imagine that other teams are
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going to try to take a playout of the Steelers playbook. Uh,
you know, it doesn't help thatChubb is still out, you know,
because you know his running ability.I mean, of course we have we
have Kareem Hunt, he's spectacular too, but Chubb is just he's from a
different world when it pertains to meyour running back. So hopefully, you
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know, they tightened up that oldline and you know, we can move
forward and progress. Think that theBrowns can rebound from this loss or is
it just a typical Browns thing?Well, I don't want to get into
the whole Oh, it's a typicalBrowns thing. Of course they can rebound
from the loss. This is adifferent team that we have now than even
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we had last year. So aloss, you know, lost has happened
anytime that you're playing a game inany sport, and l can happen.
Now. Of course, the levelof l you know, is a little
bit high, but they definitely canrebound. I think yeah for me,
before I give it to U cJ. Is it time for a new
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quarterback? Or is Baker Mayfield stilldeveloping? What's your thoughts on that.
Here's the thing is that he's hadthree different coaches during his entire tenure as
a Cleveland Brown So that means threedifferent schemes, and you know, it's
a brand new scheme now than itwas last year. So how can a
quarterback truly develop when you're changing everythingall the time. So you have to
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give people time to develop. AndI know that as Cleveland fans, everybody
wants this like extraordinary and excellent stuffto just happen out of the blue and
randomly be spectacular. But that's justnot how the game is played. That's
not how it works. It's notjust going to be an overnight success and
turnaround like you have to build ontoit. So right now, we still
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have done something when we were fourand one, we did do something that
hasn't happened since nineteen ninety four.So we have to still be appreciative of
that and watch the growth and letthem grow without complaining. As quarterback,
as couch quarterbacks, what's your thing, Jake well Guard? You know all
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about being a couch quarterback, don'tyou. I haven't. I don't think
you could ever take the seven stepdrop back in throw it thirty yards,
much less fifty. Yeah, I'msure you do. You have an armor
legga ear of a back shoulder.Yeah. The one thing you don't have
his hair, but I digress.Listen. So the loss that the Browns
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took is it comes down to this. They've figured out the Browns weakness right
now, Obviously it's just stop therun and let Baker Mayfield have to beat
you. And right now it's proventhat Baker Mayfield cannot beat you if he
has to throw the ball. BakerMayfield is not going to be able to
dig you out of a hole justbecause he doesn't have a big enough shovel.
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Right now, as far as therun game goes with the Browns,
yes, it hurts to lose NickChubb because he was part of that big
one two punch with Kareem Hunt.But Kareem Hunt is no slouch. He's
still a Pro Bowl caliber running back, a special running back who made all
kinds of great strides in Kansas City, and you hope that that would start
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showing himself more now that he isthe main option in Cleveland. But if
you load the box against the Browns, with the offensive lines that they have
not being able to open holes andget him open, your team is pretty
much one dimensional. Now you're puttingeverything on Baker to pick the defenses apart
and right now it does show ordoesn't look like Baker really can understand how
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the defenses are moving and adjusting toto uh, the formations on the field.
So to kind of answer your otherquestion, Erica, I agree with
Guards on the fact that Baker hashad multiple coaches and and different offenses that
he's had to learn, So Icut him a little slack there. However,
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a little bit, a little bit, bro, this is what year
three, right, Guards, You'reright here. Three you have we have
to see some sort of progression,and right now, I don't know.
Without the run game, it lookslike Baker regresses back to running around scared
for his life he did. It'snot a good look right now for the
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Browns. All right, guys,So listen, we have a little lesson
three minutes Michael C J. Thejab Wars versus the line. We're gonna
go to you first because I'm allowedto say, what's your thoughts? Do
you still I mean, we haveto go back to the question I asked
a few I think it was lastsegment or I'm sorry last week. Do
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you think that they need a newneed? Do they think I apologized?
Do you think look I get it. It's hard to do. You think
they need a new coach the Jaguars, Like, what's going on? I
think they need a new coach.Okay, So let me put it to
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you this way. Our coach issmart like a fox right now. See
what he's doing is having the teamlaid low. He is ducking all expectations.
See now, at this point,nobody expects the Jaguars to do anything
except for the true Jaguar fans.We know and we believe that they can
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overcome in the obstacle at some point. So what we are training to do
this is this is like ninja training. Okay, this is ninja training for
the Jaguars. What we're doing isluring everybody into a false sense of security
by lowering our standard of play sothat when the time comes to strike,
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we're there, baby, We strikewith deadly accuracy, and then we're on
our way. We're on the riseright now. Yep, I see it
coming, It's coming, It's coming. What what y'all lost to the Detroit
Lions? Listen, Detroit has alot of things going. They have a
lot of automotive. They have agreat automotive industry that's on the rise.
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You know, they talk about football. Yeah, they have, they have,
they have history in football. Theyhave the great Barry standards. You
know, maybe they channeled some ofthem. Store to sixteen. Well,
at least we scored in the doubledigit team me, me, me,
yeah. But winning fair, youscored seven points. Game score, you
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scored seven points. That's all.Like I said, we're luring everybody into
a false sense of security so thatwhen the time is right, the jaguars
will strike, much like actual jaguarsin the jungle, dude to their prey.
He got bars. I I know, I got bars, all right,
and I got faith. It's notsitting the jaguars get mad at me,
man, I'm not getting mad atyou though. I'm not getting mad.
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I didn't lose it. You didn't. I didn't cause you to lose.
He did. Look about y'all,y'all lost. Don't try to switch
the conversation. No, I'm nottrying to switch. I'm just saying,
we at least into the We atleast scored into the double digits. You
only score seven points, your elvesare multiplied, your ells multiplied r els.
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So we played. We played sometough competition, all right. Lost
the Lions the Lions are a teamalso on the rise. All Right,
I have T J. Hawkinson onmy fantasy team and he's a good later.
So yeah, okay, all right, guys, all right, all
right, we're gonna have to bringit back, all right. So because
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take a quick break. Before wego on a break, we have an
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back the necessary roughness. Thank youfor coming back. As I said earlier,
we have an amazing interview for youguys. We have the first Latino
to represent the Highling Kansas jast Itby Indianapolis Colts in two thousand and seven,
signed with New England Patriots in twothousand and twelve, Anthony Gonzalez.
Way far, I love my Hispanicpeople. Dario the micas on you.
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You just wanted to be able tosay, Webpop. I had to welcome
to my buddy Anthony Gonzalez, congressmanfrom a great state of Ohio and former
Indianapolis coach. Welcome to the showman. How you doing I'm doing well,
Thank you for having me. Awesome, awesome, So we've we've done
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interviews before on other shows on thenetwork, and it's usually you know,
about the news of the day andpolitics and stuff like that. This is
the first time and we've actually hada chance to talk about some sports.
So talk a little bit about first, just what your experience was like playing.
First, Let's let's go to Ignationbecause you've been a big programs the
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from high school on, because youwent to Ignatius, then you went to
Ohio State, then you were inthe NFL. So talk about what those
experiences were like, going from abig program locally to the biggest football program
in the state, to then makingit to the NFL. Yeah, well,
great question. So I'll just speakexclusively about the coaches that I had
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and and sort of the leaders thatI was exposed to, which I sometimes
you just get lucky in life,right, and in my football career,
I was immensely lucky. So umad Ignatious. I played for a Hall
of Fame coach Chuck Kyle, learneda ton from him, and obviously,
um that was a big stage forfor a high school kid, and I
loved every second of it. Andyou learn a lot about the game.
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But but really. You know,from from people like Chuck Kyle, you
learn about life and you learn aboutleadership From there, went on to Ohio
State, same thing, and anotherHall of Fame coach, with which coach
Jim Tressel still one of my mentorsto this day. Somebody I talked to
about every big decision that I makein my life. Talked to him about,
you know, whether I should proposeto my now wife, talk to
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about whether I should get into Congressand run for political office, all these
big decisions, whether I should goto business. UM. I kind of
sort of lean on him because he'ssuch a wise person. UM, and
try to emulate him in a lotof ways. So I got lucky there.
And then in the NFL. Youknow, my first coach was Tony
Dungee, who, um, youknow, the first black coach to win
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a Super Bowl. He and LoveySmith were the first two to ever coach
in one uh and um, andthat was the year before I got to
Indianapolis. But um, an unbelievableleader and an even better guy. And
again somebody I lean on quite abit. I talked to him, Um,
you know, earlier this summer whenwhen George Floyd was killed in the
social unrest, and and just sortof how I can be a more productive
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voice and a better leader, UMinside our community. And those are all
things that you know, those areexperiences getting to be led by those incredible
leaders UM that again, you sometimesyou just get lucky and and I UM
and I did and have been luckyto be around those guys and just try
to do what I can to takewhat they've taught me and apply it to
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my own life. No one,I fall short every day, but but
they're so incredible And but for football, I would not have had that.
So I'm immensely grateful for that opportunity, right. And one of the things
that we that we like to talkabout a lot on the show. We've
had several former athletes, former footballplayers, and we like to talk a
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lot about that experience and how thatthe experience that you got in the league
or through playing professional sports, whatyou were able to translate to the next
phase of your life. So,as you are now in Congress, were
there anything that you learned? Ithink you touched on it a little bit
in the previous question, but arethere were there anything that you learned along
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the way in those locker rooms inthose experiences that was able that you were
able to take, that was ableto translate as you made a run for
Congress and now being in Congress andworking on behalf of American people. Yeah,
so I mean the leadership component forsure, Right, you try to
take those lessons and apply them.And again, I you know, I
wouldn't put myself anywhere near the categoryof those those great, great men.
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But um, but you know that'sthat's a big one. And I always
knew. I was always a veryaware that I was being led by incredible
people, and so I tried totake notes and those sorts of things.
I'll give you another one though,that maybe is even more applicable. Um.
So, you know, my NFLcareer, I was draft in the
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first round, but ultimately it didn'tpan out anywhere near how I wanted to
or or my team wanted to.I I basically played for two years and
then was hurt for three years.Um, and so you know, it
just didn't go the way I wantedto, and it was immensely disappointing.
And so obviously, you you know, the outside voices come in and start
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bashing in. You know, youwere a bust and all these sorts of
things, and yeah, some extendedthrough UM and so you know, dealing
with that, and I'll be honest, I didn't deal with it great at
that point. I was twenty sixyears old, twenty seven years old,
and I let it get to memore than it should have, and my
skin wasn't as thick as it probablyneeded to be. UM. But going
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through that process and coming out okayon the other side, I ultimately went
to Stanford Business School, got anNBA, ran a business UM, sort
of recovered and got my life backbefore getting into politics. Going through that
and being in the fire and gettingyou know, hit pretty hard by the
media and WHATNOTUM prepared me pretty wellfor this. That's a great action.
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I just thought about that like wow, yeah, okay, Yeah, it
felt like for the enemy all thetime, which is how politics feels in
a lot of ways. Uh.You know that at NFL experience, which
didn't go the way I wanted toUM that Uh that has has made I
think made me stronger in this roleand have given me an ability to just
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keep moving even if you know there'scritics on either side. Well, one
thing, uh that we talked abouta couple of weeks ago on the show,
was you know, college athletes beingcompensated, you know, for their
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skill, for their talent and whatthey actually bring to these schools and uh
these universities. Uh when it pertainsto you know, how much money that
they actually bring to the universities byyou know, that's basically off of their
skill. Uh. Now, Iknow a couple of years ago, one
thing that you sponsored, I believewas, uh was a bill to get
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that that college athletes could actually monitorzeis their name and likeness? Could you
talk about that a little bit?Yeah, So, uh, we just
introduced this a couple months ago,and this is an issue that frankly,
I was thinking about when I wasin college football. So, um,
you know, let's let's just behonest, right these kids. The scholarship
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is enormously valuable and the opportunity toplay college sports is unparalleled. To change
my life. I have nothing butpositive things to say about that, and
that's true for probably you know,ninety nine percent of college athletes. My
wife is a college athlete, andjust a you know, an incredible experience.
That being said, Um, youknow, the reality is these athletes
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in many instances could market themselves.That could be as much as you know,
uh, signing a shoe deal foryou know, a couple hundred thousand
dollars, but it could be assmall as teaching swimming lessons in the summer.
You know, if you're if you'rea swimmer. Right the way the
polls are set up today, youcan't do either one of those things or
anything in between. So the thoughtthat that we had was, well,
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that doesn't really make sense. Youknow, college athletes right now are the
only people in the country who cannotcapitalize off their own name, image,
and likeness. The only people inthe country, even members of Congress could.
I could write a book and sellit, and you know, that's
capitalizing off name, image and likeness. Athletes can't. That didn't make sense
to me. So I said,why don't we put a bill forward that
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would allow for this and clean upsome of the state laws because there were
different states. This was the realcatalyst. Different states had passed their own
laws, so you had, youknow, fifty states with thirty different name,
image and likeness laws. So wesaid, well, that's kind of
chaotic, but let's pass one lawthat applies all across the country and allows
for the college athlete to do thisbecause I think it's an important right.
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And you know, the truth ofthe matter is what we're talking about in
most instances is you know, minoritykids from tough backgrounds who this might be
the only opportunity they have to dosomething like this. And so I think
it's an important an important right,because not every great college football player is
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a great pro right. They canyou know, if they have a marketable
skill set, they can they canapply it. And so that's what we're
trying to do. UM. Youknow, I think we're probably gonna revisit
this early next Congress. Right now, we're still dealing with COVID and all
that, But once we get intothe next Congress, I think we'll we'll
start to revisit it UM. AndI'm really proud of the work we've done
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so far. It's it's a bipartisanbill. We've got members of Congressional Black
Caucus, We've got some of themost progressive members, we've got some of
the most conservative members in Congress.So we're really we're trying to hit as
many constituencies as possible and really buildthat base out so we can get this
done. And now you guys,we have to take a quick quick break.
We'll be right back. Stay tunedfor the rest of this interview.
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Welcome back to this amazing interview thatwe have where Anthony Gonzalez really think
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it's a it's a great idea.Um. You know, I used to
live in Columbus for a few yearsand you know, you we know how
big the Buckey's football is down there, and you know a place like that
is you know or any you know, big school that has a has a
strong football program, strong sports program. I should say, you know,
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these kids out there should have theability, you know, if they want
to endorse or sign on to promotea pizza place down there, or you
know, to get on a commercialfor a car or something like that.
I think that they should be ableto do that without being reprimanded. Uh,
you know, because I think thatthat's gonna also accomplish a few things.
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Is that if they do get tothe next level, it's going to
put them in the position so theyunderstand money early, you know what I
mean. And then next in additionto that, that's gonna also for those
that don't go to the next level, that's going to position them to expand
their career, you know, inanother direction, if they don't go to
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the NFL or go pro. Itotally agree. And I'll give you another
one I think that is underappreciated rightnow, is you know, if you
know that you are in fact ableto do this, I think the way
you present yourself on social media,the way that you present yourself in public,
you're going to be more aware ofsort of out there right absolutely,
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because hey, if I say somethingreally stupid, if I post something really
dumb, you know, I'm ultimatelygoing to cost myself money here. So
I think it'll force kids to matureand to favier you know, business people.
Uh. And that's again, that'smen and women, right. I
told my college swimmer, you know, she wasn't allowed to teach swim lessons.
She wouldn't allowed to do anything.Um, you know, so it's
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the same, it's the same thing. I think it cuts across all sports.
It's going to apply differently for eachsport, all genders, and and
I think it's just a good stepforward. Well, and it's it's it's
a it's a brilliant idea too,because I know obviously, you know,
in the country, there's been thisdebate for a while about whether college athletes
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should be paid or not. Andone of the issues that people had had
with that was the possible negative impactthat can have on the schools if the
schools had to pay the athletes.Well, in this the you're not the
the athletes can go get their ownmoney, they can get their own market,
their own image, and likeli,it has virtually no negative impact on
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the school itself at all. It'snot money that has to come out of
their coffers, allowing the student athletesto get somebody else to pay them exactly.
And you know the other issue withthe employment model, right, if
you wanted to say, hey,well they should be employed by the university,
well that means they can be fired. And so you know, if
you're talking about a seventeen year oldkid, right, and I played with
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a bunch of heck, this wasme. I came to I came from
Saint Ignatius, which is a greatschool, with great background all that stuff.
I was so immature, I washomesick. I was heartbroken. You
know, my high school girlfriend brokemy heart. You know, God forbid,
and as happens from time to timewhen you go away to college.
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But in any event, you know, I wasn't playing, I read shirted,
I wasn't doing well in school.You know, if you would have
evaluated me after that first year,you'd say, hey, you know,
maybe this guy's not going to workout, Maybe we should fire him and
you know, bring somebody else in. That's what happened if you're in the
employment model. But if you're inthe traditional scholarship mode, but you allow
for name, image and likeness.You know, now, nothing's really changed
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for the athlete other than there's anadditional opportunity that didn't exist before. Absolutely.
Absolutely. We're talking with the CongressmanAnthony Gonzalez, and I mean,
man, you have a really fascinatingand awesome story just from from where you
come from to where you've where you'vegotten to being able to be in the
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halls of Congress. One thing thatum, you and I haven't really talked
that much about is like is thelike the the origin of your background story.
I know your your parents came overhere from Cuba? Correct my father?
Yes, my mother was born here, but my father was born in
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Cuba. Yeah, okay, Andso did he come over after Castro?
Yeah? So, um, youknow the quick version Castro took over,
um, and you know he wasstarting to round up followers basically, uh.
And it was a you know,are you in or out? Um?
If you were out, it wasn'tgonna be so good for you.
Um. And so um, mygrandmother took her kids. They went off
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and kind of hid. This isn'tthe right parallel, but sort of like
an underground railroad of sorts. Theywere waiting for a visa to get processed
so that they could so they couldescape, so they could come to the
US. UM. And so theywere hanging out in friends' houses and basements
and all that m just trying toavoid capture because the Castro folks were looking
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for him and um. And thenthey ultimately came to Miami. They were
in Miami for like a month andthen then up to Cincinnati actually, um,
and you know that's that's there thenwhere where they started building their life.
And UM, you know, myfather started to steal business the year
before I was born. Uh,he started out in eighty three. I
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was born eighty four, and um, you know runs it to this day.
And and that's sort of when whenI think of the country and I
think of our country, I'm I'mso I mean, look, we've got
flaws, everybody knows that, butI'm so proud of this country. This
country is unbelievable. I mean,for for my story to even exist is
is a testament to just the opportunitythat's out there. Now we have to
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extend that opportunity to everybody. Right. But but the notion that you could
escape a communist regime come here withnothing no, nobody not speak the language.
And then within one generation, youknow, you can build a business
and your kid can serve in Congress. And that just doesn't happen everywhere.
In fact, it almost happens nowhere. So UM, you know it's um,
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you know, it's it's really justone of again, when I think
of our country, I just loveI love our country. I'm proud of
our country, and I think it'san amazing place despite our flaws. Um,
but you know, that's that's whatI think of when I think of
sort of what's possible here? Right, I know, um, I know
one of the uh okay, yeah, and then right after that we'll go
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you here good. I know.Guards and I have have this conversation,
Um, we've had it several timesprivately, just about how our family,
how much our family stories had impactedus personally, and and knowing knowing our
our individual family histories and stuff likethat, Um, what kind of impact
did knowing all of that, knowingwhat your what's your father and your family
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went through to get here and allthat, how much of an impact did
that have one on you personally?Just knowing that that family history, Oh,
an enormous impact I mean, so, you know, my father's mother,
Maya Boila, she was, youknow, my best friend growing up.
She lived with us my grandfather hepassed away when when I was in
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the third grade, and then shelived with us basically, you know,
until I graduated high school. Umand uh. And she was the one
I always talked to about this stuff, and I would I asked her to
write a book. She wrote hermemoirs before she passed away. Um and
so knowing her story, and itwas actually so of those conversations with her
that ultimately led me to want torun for Congress because she always used to
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say something to the effect of,look, if you ever see your country
going in a direction that doesn't feelright, where you just know in your
in your gut that you know thingsaren't moving in the best best direction,
you have an obligation to get involved. And that doesn't mean you run for
office, but you have an obligationto try to save your country, because
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you know, I lost my countryand I had to leave my country,
and I don't I didn't have anywhereto go. If I didn't have America,
I wouldn't have had anywhere to go. And so you know that those
lessons and those conversations with her havealways been in the back of my mind,
knowing, you know, if Iever felt like, hey, the
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country needs service and I feel likeI can provide it. I'm not saying
I'm going to solve all the problemsin the world, right, but but
just if I think I could makethings better, then I I had had
an obligation to do it. Withher voice in my head that I decided
to get into this absolutely great Erica. We're talking about your culture and you're
from here. What's what's it liketo be the first latinos to represent Ohio
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in Congress? You know it's abig honor. Um it Uh, you
know, I don't want to Idon't want this to sound um, I
guess arrogant. So there's a there'sa phrase out there which is if you
can't see it, you can't beit. Right there's you hear that a
lot. Um. I don't believein that phrase. I believe that if
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you see something that's never been donebefore and it's important and you think you
can do it, then damn it, you go do it. That's That's
what That's what I believe. Um. And you know, I knew when
I got into this that that nobodythat that no Latino I had ever been
elected to Congress in the state ofOhio. Um. And I was told,
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frankly, by a lot of peoplein my own party. You know,
nobody with the last name Gonzales isgoing to win a Republican primary.
I was I was told that bya lot of people. And I said,
well, you know, we'll see. I don't think you you understand
the voters like I think I do, but we'll see. Um and so.
Um. You know, you youtake all that and you use it
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as fuel more than anything. Umand uh and so you you know,
for me, personally, I'm incrediblyproud of it. But you know,
at the same time, I'll saythis, I and I've said this in
other forms before, I personally needto do a better job of making sure
that the Latino voice is heard moreloudly in Congress. I am the vice
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chair of the Diversity and Inclusion sorright vice ranking member of the Diversity Inclusion
Subcommittee on Financial Services, and I'vedone work there that I'm proud of.
Um, but I can still domore, and I want to do more.
And if I'm re elected, Iplan to so. Um, but
it's it isn't amazing honor. Andyou know, I just know I know
that if my grandmother were still here, she'd be very proud, and that,
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you know, you know, thatmeans the world to me. Absolutely,
absolutely, go ahead, guards,Uh, do you have something else
you want to think? I wasgonna say, what what you just mentioned
is? You know, Uh,I think that it's positive that you know,
if you you feel that you cando more, I think that that
is the first stepped into doing more, you know what I mean. So
that's that's a positive thing. UhSo, we definitely appreciate you taking some
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time out and answering these questions righthere. Um, so here's my question.
We're gonna switch switch back to sportsright now because I know you're you're
from the Land. Uh So,you're you're a Browns fan. I'm assuming,
oh yeah, so so, andI know, of course since you
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since you play with them, I'massuming you're also a Colts fan as well.
I'm a Cults fan, but I'mreally a Browns fan. I got
you when they got the same recordnow right, they got the same record
down right? So what so whatis your take on the Browns this year.
So I think the Browns have froma pure talent standpoint, Uh,
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their their offense. You know,if you get Nick chubbback, I think
they're probably a top three offense inthe NFL because they can run the ball
so well. I got big questionsabout Baker, um, but uh,
you know, if he if Bakerjust doesn't turn the ball over, and
the Browns can run the ball theway they do, they're a really hard
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team to beat. I mean,you know, it's it's all comes down
to turnovers. If we could justprotect the football, I think that's a
ten eleven win team. Um ifif we throw a lot of interceptions or
fumbles, uh, you know,then you're looking at a seven to eight
win team. But the pure,the pure talent level is unbelievable. Like
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what other receiving group would you ratherhave? Which other tight ends would you
rather have? Which other offensive linewould you rather have? Which other running
backs would you rather have? There'snobody I don't that I can see in
the NFL. Um, but thequarterback position we need to do better there.
Yeah. I after watching this,uh last week's game, I was
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like they were putting so much pressureon him. I'm like, but but
it seemed that like he was gettingnervous. Well, I'll say this,
my offensive coordinator, his names inIndia's name is Tom Moore. Just an
old grizzled veteran. You's looking atme. He just looks like an offensive
coordinator, sort of look at him. But he um. He had a
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saying just a little crewd which isyou could take all these past plays and
wipe yourself with him if you can'tblock. And so that's actually great.
I think I'm gonna use that touse that. I like that a lot.
Yeah, I mean he said thatafter one week. You know,
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we had Peyton Manning as our quarterback, so one week he got hit.
You know, I don't know morethan normal. And that was the only
thing he said to us that week. None of these plays me in anything
if he's on his back. Soyou've got to find a way to block,
right, absolutely all right. Leteverybody know how to keep up with
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you on social media, how tofollow you, to know you're in the
middle of a campaign. Got acouple of weeks left, so if they
want to get any more information aboutthat as well, the website, all
that good stuff. Yeah, Soat rep A Gonzalez with two zis is
my official Twitter account. At AnthonyGonzalez is my personal one, though for
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my sanity, I have gotten offof Twitter. Um it's not bad,
not a bad decision, not abad COVID innovation. My wife was like,
all right, I'm like this isalready bad enough and you're in a
bad mood, Like you got toget off that stupid So that was that
(40:07):
was her genius. Um, soI don't post much on it, but
um, but the at rep aGonzalez is probably the best, the best
one, and then vote. AnthonyGonzalez dot com is our our campaign site.
Um, but uh, you knowthose are the best ways. But
really, just appreciate you guys havingme on always great. Uh, great
being with you, great to meetmy two new friends Darby, always great
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to be with you. Absolutely,thank you so much, man, I
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podcasts today. This is necessary roughness. Welcome back, This is necessary roughness,
all right, Genien sol If youhaven't already heard the writers, Trent
Brown was placed on the reserve COVIDlist, which sends five starters back home.
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So my question, should the NFLcreate a bubble like the NBA?
What do you guys think? Guards? Let's start with you, um I
don't know if they would be ableto create a huge bubble, uh like
they did with the NBA. Imean, the NBA did like a great
job with it, you know,I think, but there's so many more
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people that are involved with the footballgame. So I don't know if if
they could create a bubble on thelarge scale. But you know, maybe
individual teams can create something. Butthey're gonna have to though. They're gonna
have to figure something out because oneplayer can literally infect the entire team and
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screw up any chances of that teamgoing forward into the playoffs or into the
remainder of the seven season. Evenso something is going to have to be
done. What do you think,see J Yeah, just like Garb said,
as far as bringing NFL teams intoa bubble, that is a tall
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order to ask. There's just waytoo many people involved. I mean from
the training staff to front office staffto the players, and then you got
to think about players families, coaches, coaches families. You got the equipment
managers, not only you know thearena attendants who run the clocks and things,
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but you got the referees and it'sjust so many it it'd be a
logistical nightmare to try and get allthose people into a bubble and keep them
isolated. Plus, you gotta lookat when the NBA did it and where
the NFL is now. The NBAdid it, they're already what most of
the way through their season, gettingready to head into the playoffs, so
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they had less time to really finishedout the remainder of the season. We're
kind of right in the beginning partof the NFL season, So to put
that many people in one shared spacefor that long, it's just a recipe
for a really disaster. I don'tthink the players would be able to handle
it. I don't think a lotof people would be able to handle it.
I mean, look how most ofthe country handled being quarantine for the
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months that we've been in quarantine.I mean, Garbs almost grew like a
chin hair, that's how crazy thingsgot for him. So I can grow,
I can grow a beard, bro, I can go. I don't
know. So the NBA, likeGarbs said, the NBA did a great
job with it. With the timingof the COVID and quarantine happening, and
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with the remainder of their season left, the NBA did the best they could,
and really did a great job withit. But the NFL, that's
a completely different ball game and differentvery difficult. It'd be very difficult to
pull off. Okay, So beforewe even began recording, we had a
great there was a great conversation thatactually began about this, about this topic.
So we're gonna bring in Dario.Dario, Um, let's let's hear
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what he has to say about thistopic. Also. Yeah, so um,
Guards and I were discussing this beforethe show started. Um, And
it does seem like it would behard to do. I know, the
teams did their own bubbles for like, uh for many camps and stuff like
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that, but it was each teambasically had a bubble. So with the
NFL there's just so many different personnow. But if if players continue to
be careless and not take the properprecautions and end up getting COVID, something's
gonna be done. They're gonna haveto do something because it's either that or
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you're gonna end up losing the season. So I mean, and I'll toss
this to you, Guards, like, what in that situation, what do
you do? Because they're gonna ifthe players are going to continue to catch
COVID they're gonna have to do something. Yeah, I mean the players are
gonna have to be responsible first andforemost, because you know, like if
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you're they're going out and kicking itand hanging out, you know, and
or having parties and whatnot, younever know who is coming into those parties
or what they're bringing with them.So you know, they're gonna have to
be super careful and extra precautious aboutthis thing because it really can affect their
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income, you know, their incomeand their livelihood even beyond just winning or
playing the game itself. So youknow, I think that the teams are
individually are gonna have to put someresponsibility on these players and potentially create some
sort of mini bubble type of situationbecause it's obvious that the whole testing thing
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is not full proof. Rights onthat real quick, Yeah, I would
have to agree at this point.It really falls on responsibility of the players
and the coaches and the coaches tocreate an environment to where we can keep
everybody safe. And we need tostart with making sure that everybody associated with
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the team is taking this pandemic seriouslybecause I think that's one where where we're
missing the ball at is players arekind of just, oh, yeah,
there's a pandemic out, but I'mstill gonna go do my thing. You
know, I'm still gonna go outkick it whatever. Like Garb said,
so the coaches need to have asit down with the players and say,
look, we got so many moredays in this season. Now. We
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can either continue to go as we'regoing, where guys are kind of free
to do as they will, orwe can really lock this thing down and
make sure that we are taking itseriously and pretty much do what's best for
each other and keep each other keepingeach other safe and making sure that we
stayed quarantine and trying not to putourselves in harm's way anymore, because,
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like you said, too many playersnow are popping up on this list,
and some of our big name players, I mean, Cam Newton just got
on this list. He just hadit and you know, praying that nothing's
happened to him or he didn't feeltoo sick or anything, or that nobody
he knows has caught it from him. But that's big. When when a
guy is with the bigger name isCam Newton catches it, that lets you
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know that this thing needs to betaken seriously and the NFL Commissioner, owners,
head coaches. Everybody needs to atsome point have some sort of sit
down with everybody and really lock thisthing down. All right, That's that
was good. All right, let'slet's wrap that up before we began.
You, guys, this is thetime I know everybody has been waiting for.
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Let's go in, So taking themto do. Yes, a man,
a man, and a man givingall praises to the big fellow upstairs
for keeping our lights on and keepingour spirits strong. And of course praise
me to you for joining us heretoday. I am the honorable Reverend Doctor.
I'll be good and I welcome youhere to the feet of faith,
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hands of healing, heart of hopeand helping Tabernacle of TwixT, kit of
cat, laugh of taffes, snickof curse, start of verse, the
most holiest and jolliest of ranchers,crunch of bars, m of M's New
International Temple of Rec's pecs, Cupsand Fellowship Incorporated Church. Before I get
started, amen, Deacon guards,let me ask you a question, what
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would you do for condact bar don'tanswer that. I've witnessed you do stranger
things for less. Let us notforget about the time you drink a mushroom
kale with sabi and Jim Socks SweatFlavor smoothie just for an opportunity to meet
eighty superstar David Hasselhaus, impersonator atthe Walmart and Cleveland Still Yard shopping District.
I pray might live for your commonsense and digestive system that night,
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My brother Church, as you've undoubtedlynoticed, we have another slight tweak in
the name this week, as theDevil's Day all Hollow's Eve approaches us at
the end of this month. Withthat our most gracis of benefactors, the
patron Saint Uncle Luke and the apostlesof the Two Live Crew, who still
hold the naming rights to the church, have entered into a tentative agreement with
the Mars Candy Corporation to use thechurch for a co sponsored event called Mars
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Candy Presents Uncle Luke's Tricks and TreatsHalloween Costume Contest twenty twenty. Rest assured
Church, Luke has assured me itwill be a very hopeful and holy event.
Praise Bee. But speaking of tricksand treats, watching the football landscape
this past weekend was definitely full oftricks and low on the treats, as
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multiple teams from college to the NFLtook the field of play last week and
got completely blown off of it.From the Buccaneers beating Guitar out of the
package thirty eight to ten, theSteelers beat in the Browns thirty eight to
seven, and yes, Church,our beloved Jaguars lost in the Detroit Lines
thirty four to sixteen. Still,even though the Jags scored nine more points
than the Browns did, they stilltook a nail, Yes crazbee, even
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in prime time a when this onefor Dak inspired Cowboys look completely uninspired against
the Cardinals in a thirty eighth toten lost Monday Night. But the ones
that took the proverbial cake were thegames between Clemson and Georgia Tech and the
Dolphins versus the Jets. Clemson trickedall over the Yellow Jackets seventy three to
seven. I heard even at halftimethe Clemson band and the football team switched
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places, and they still beat thesenseless senses out of the Yellow Jackets.
While may I add playing the flightof the Bumblebee song just to add insult
to injury. But at least GeorgiaTech was able to score, unlike the
New York Paper Airplanes, who Ican't really call Jets anymore because their failure
to launch it truly all inspired,Church, do you smell that? I
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believe that funk you're smelling is askunk? The Jets got beat by the
Dolphins twenty four to a big vatSmelly gousegg. My lord. They are
bad, and now they've also decidedto part ways with their big ticket of
a running back in lev Yon Bell, who has left the team for greena
pastors in Kansas City Church. It'ssafe to say now that the Jets are
a lock for that number one spotin the draft. At least that one
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will be a win in the wind. Calling Amen now, Deacon Guards,
Deacon as Erica, please close andlock the sanctuary doors, but keep the
windows cracked to let some of thisskunk funk out as we take up a
collection for the teams that got blownaway by their superior competition last week.
Amen, and remember, Church,no matter how crazy this world make it
or how big an elle we maytake it, you never have to worry
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about me, because I'll be goodhallelujah, thank you, thank you.
All right, you guys, wehave less than a minute, let's say,
final final thoughts. CEJ started off, what's your final thoughts for the
day. Well, thank you,Erica. Finally I get a chance to
start it off well. And don'tlook at to tell the people how they
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you know, how they can catchup with you in your social of course.
Of course you can follow me onInstagram and Twitter at King Cobb seventy
on Facebook CJ Cobb. Just rememberthe Jaguars right now are in Ninja treating
we laid low, laid low tospring up in surprise attack our foes.
Garbs on you. Yeah, afterthat, all I have to just say
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is follow me at garbe infinite forthe truth about the Jaguars. Yeah,
whatever about your hairline, which youain't got what are you mad? Are
you mad? All right, youguys. And before we wrap it up,
I want to say a quick restingpiece to my cousin Angelo Catala,
who passed away on the twenty first, five thirty in the morning. You
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know, he passed away from afatal shot. And at them, I
just want, I just want tosay to everybody that lost the family member.
My heart goes out to you untilnext time you guys, meet us
right back here at the same time, safe place, necessary, roughness,
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