Episode 125 - Captain Marvel

Captain Marvel Review

In spite of the fanboy neckbeards trying to "review bomb" a film for having an outspoken female lead, Captain Marvel seems to be connecting and finding its audience. We had our reservations on seeing it in the theater because the trailers seemed uninteresting. However, we got to see it opening night and had a great theatrical experience.

Listen to our spoiler-free review and more importantly, listen to The Girl talk about how representation matters for her and our little girl.

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to the Nerd party. It'sgoing Yes, sorry me, I love
you and I like you. Ilove you and I like you. I
love that woman. I love amore than sharks love bloody. Hello on

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Tristan Rudel and I'm the girl,And this is Nerd Nuptial Episode one hundred
and twenty five. How are youdoing today? I'm good. We got
to go see a movie today.We got to go see a movie.
And if this is your first timelistening, we are a married couple who
looks at life through a nerdy lens. What movie did we good to go
see? Captain Marvel? Captain Marvel, the Captain Marvel's right, this is

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the this is the post Avengers movie, yes, and pre Avengers movie.
That's right, it's it's the bridge, yes, yes, like this is
the this is the the sidestep kindof like the like I don't want to
demean it by saying the distraction,but like, this is the side story

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right of the main saga that isthe Infinity Stones and everything, like,
yes, yes, it's supposed togive us hope that possibly things will go
better in endgame, although the nameend game doesn't really true. That's breed
confidence. Yeah seriously. Um,so, yeah, we're going to talk
about that today and uh kind oftalk about our first impressions and then spoiler

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free, spoiler free, and thenwe'll talk about some spoilers. That's right.
Yeah, that's how we usually doit. Is that, like,
you and I have not talked,that's right about the about the movie yet
because we just got home. Wefinished a nice dinner, that's right,
put the baby to sleep, that'sright, and and now we're ready to
talk about So I have no ideahow you felt about it. You have
no idea how I felt about it. Yeah, I have no idea.
But before we get into that,before we get into the review, we

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have a five star review of ourshow. Yeah. Now, this is
from the UK Star Store from anindividual by the name of I on Springfield,
and he or she titled it namea more Iconic Pairing. I'll wait
end of review. That was it. That's so awesome. Thank you so
much, Thank you so much fordoing that, huge compliment for taking the

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time. Yeah, I love that. It's them. It's the people often
talk about our chemistry and every timeI hear that, I'm just like,
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hope we have, but yes,thank you so much for doing that.
And if you guys are listening andhaven't haven't done that yet, please go
to Apple Podcast give us a review. You can leave any kind of review

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you want, but if you leavea five star review, we'll mention you
on the show. So how aboutwe talk about some Captain Marvel. Yeah,
well, it was a very appropriateday to go see Captain Marble because
it's International Women's Day. That's right. We were recording this on International Wednesday,
opening weekend of Captain Marvel. Iwonder if that was on purpose.
I'm pretty sure it was. SoI want to know, what did you

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think about this movie before before wewent to go see it? What were
you expecting or anything like that.Well, okay, so I think we'ven't
been talked to a little bit aboutit on this show. Possibly, I
didn't have very high expectations at all. In fact, we kind of until
the last minute debated going to ocCaptain Marvel. We were like, if

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it works with our schedule, awesome, we'll have something to go see.
People kept asking me today like,oh, are you gonna go see Captain
Marvel? And I said I waslike, well, we have the tickets,
right, but our babysitter might bail, like like they might have to
back out at the last second,And if we can't go see it opening
weekend, then we'll probably just skipit until until it comes out on video,

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right. Yeah, so I didnot have very high expectations. I
also had a really hard time.Maybe I haven't seen enough Bree Larson films,
but I had a really hard timevisualizing her as a superhero. So
I was kind of like, andthe way that they're advertising it kind of

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felt like it felt a little Idon't know, like are we gonna like
this? Are we not? Andso I did not have very high expectations
going in at all. Yeah,it's pretty much the same for me because
the trailers really didn't do anything forme. Yeah, I think that's the
thing. It didn't like, itdidn't make me frustrated, It didn't excite

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me, like I think that's themain thing. It didn't like make me
jazz to go see it, whereaslike seeing Endgame trailer, we're like we
were going like don't you want tosay anymore? And we're going I think
I kept thinking about doctor Strange whenI saw the trailers for Captain Marvel.
It's just like, this feels likeit's going to be a baseline Marvel experience

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where it's going to be just okay. You know, like Marvel has a
formula. It's a formula that works, and you're guaranteed a certain for the
most part, a certain level ofentertainment, so you know what you're going
to get with your dollar. That'sI mean, you know, formula used

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to be a dirty word. Nowit's a guaranteed income for movie studios,
but it's still kind of a dirtyword for me because I'm just like,
I, yes, I'm guaranteed acertain experience, but at the same time
as it worth my dollar. IfI'm if I'm guaranteed a certain experience,
then I can wait for video.But the main thing, like one big
thing was well, Avengers Infinity Warwas fan frequantastic. This is going to

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tie into endgame? Do I needto see this to understand endgame? But
then as time went on, peopleare just like know, like like,
there's no way that they're gonna mandatethat you see this in order for endgame
to make sense, Okay, Andso I was I was honestly thinking of
skipping it, and just like talkingto some fellow friends at the nerd party

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saying like, what do I needto know for endgame? Okay? Yeah,
And that's kind of where we wereat before going into the theater.
Um anything else before we get intospoiler free? No, what did you
what did you think about the marketingabout them leaning heavily into the um,
she is a hero, this isa female protagonist, this is a female

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superhero because this is this is markin the MCU's first female led superhero film.
What did you think about how howthey leaned pretty hard in the marking
with that and MCU's first female ledsuperhero film in general? How how do
you feel about that? I thinkI'm having a hard time talking about without

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getting into like, let's okay,do you want to talk about that later?
Yeah, let's talk about that alittle later, just because I would
rather like talk about it with somespoilers. Yeah, um, so I
know a spoiler spoiler free version.Let let me kind of get into about

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like how they did advertise it.I don't think that they really gave it
the proper tone in their advertising.Um, as far as like I didn't
think I thought it they took avery serious tone in their advertising personally versus
what I saw in the movie,because I felt like it was a little

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it was a little stodgy, likea little like uptight in their advertising versus
what what I actually saw when Iactually saw the film. So I felt
like it's a little like I wasall about, like, yeah, female
driven, like we've got a um, you know, a fee male super
hero. That's a big deal.But I've only got that with Wonder Woman

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exactly in a different franchise exactly.So I was all about that long time
listeners will know we're huge like WonderWoman fans, So like a Marvel version,
I'm like, Okay, let's let'ssee what that's all about. But
I felt kind of I felt likeit was a little bit misleading in the
way that they advertised it, andI would say to kind of get into

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our spoiler free. I felt likeit was way better film than how they
advertised it. So let's go aheadand get into that. Okay, yeah,
oh excuse me, excuse me.So let's just go ahead and get
into that. So you saw themovie, Yes you're walking out of the
theater, Yes you're driving home becausewe had to drive separately by yourself.

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Yes, what were you feeling?As soon as the credits started to roll,
I can't wait to show Ripley reallyyes, wow, yes, elaborate
on that. I think this typeof superhero is so like we as women,
we don't get that at all.So I feel like finally getting I

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could get a oh my goodness,wow, Okay, it's all right,
it's all right, take your time, so you know, you know,
like it's it's hard, like representationreally matters, and it's you don't always
get that on screen. And Ifeel like people who look at me,

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I am a straight white male andI'm in my thirties and I'm American,
right, I there is so muchout there for me, and there's so
many superheroes that look like me.Freaking Batman looks like me. I am
nothing like that, right, ButI think I think that's the thing is

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like as a little girl growing up, you're not told that you could be
a superhero. Sorry, this isa lamb. Oh No, it's not
late at all, um. AndI think like seeing a superhero that looks
like you, um, you know, being a woman, and really like
leaning into how hard it is tobe a woman really spoke to me hard

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clearly, Yeah, because like therewas I mean, there was there was
a sorry guys, I didn't Iguess like I felt it in the moment
when I was watching it, Butum, I guess it's like really coming
out now because there was a fewmoments like I felt emotional, Like I
felt like I felt something when Iwas watching. But clearly, I think

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it also kind of leans into um, having a little girl and like trying
to be the best for her andshow her what a woman is going it
is, and like being the bestexample and so like having other examples to

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her to look up to, andyou know, not not being like a
situation where like, oh, you'rethe weird girl because you're dressing up like
Spider Man because you're but you're agirl. Like I don't feel like Ripley's
going to have as much of thatbecause we do. We're starting to now
like embrace superheroes more so like ourlittle girl. Yeah, exactly, and

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especially like in this time and place, I think that we're leaning a little
bit in the right direction where it'slike no, as a little girl,
you can say, yeah, no, I know that we have that with
Wonder Woman, but like, themore diversity you have in that really helps
kids feel like they can relate righteven even with black Panther, Like even

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though the protagonist is a man,there is so many yeah, well written
and interesting female characters, and femalecharacters of color and of different ages exactly
because sure yeah, Like um oneof our trigger treaders was Sure this year,
and I was just like, itlooks so different than when I was

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a little girl. Like basically Iwas like, I'm a princess or I'm
like in some type of two too, and I like felt like a rebel
for dressing up like Princess Leiah exactly. So to see like this generation of

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little girls being able to to reallyand also just to teach them that little
girls can like teach them that youcan be strong as a woman, and
not only strong like mentally, butyou could also be strong physically. Like
it takes a lot of work andthat's just kind of the nature of being
a woman, but like you can'twork towards it, and you can be

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strong in whatever way mentally. AndI also like there were certain moments in
the film where it was okay tobe emotional. It was okay to you
know, be those like those wordsthat have always been associated negatively with women,
weakness or weakness. Um, Ifelt like they kind of made it

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okay. Yeah. It was likea recurring theme in the film. This
is no spoilers, but like arecurring theme in the film was Captain Marvel
controlling her emotions. Which how manytimes as a woman have you heard that
somebody told you that you need tocalm down or that you need to control
your emotions, control your emotions?Yeah, Like right now, I feel

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embarrassed that I got emotional talking aboutCaptain Marvel. I got listen a couple
of episodes ago. I got emotionalfrom talking about a movie called Please stand
By, which was a substandard likecould have been a straight to DVD film,
and it doesn't matter because it connectedwith Yeah, just like Captain Marvel

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spoke to you now before before wemove on, because I really want to
talk. I want to continue talkingabout this. What you didn't have this
kind of reaction after seeing Wonder Woman. No, I think a lot of
it had to do with the factthat, like they really focused on the
idea of so, okay, WonderWoman is a little bit different category,

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right, Like she was surrounded bywomen all of her life who built her
up. Okay, Captain Marvel herpast when she starts to remember it,
she was always beaten down, whichis much more of a I mean,
I've lived a very great life asa woman, but it doesn't mean that
I haven't been told like, no, you can't do that because you're a

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girl, or every every woman hasbeen told that it's some type of time
or another or felt inferior because aman was making her feel stupid or not
as strong or something like that.So having that backstory that was much more
typical of the female experience and justthe idea like that she could every time,

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like there is that this like scenewhere um a little girl, like
she was a little girl and everytime she'd fall down and back go oh
my gosh. And also I meanand and here's the thing though, is
that like when you were a littlegirl, you were a little blonde girl,
and we have a little blonde girland Captain Marvel was a little blonde

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girl. And so there's that there'sthat much of an extreme connection like not
just as it like, oh I'ma woman, but no, like I'm
also a little white blonde girl.And so that just even shows us more
that we need representation of little blondegirls, of little black girls, of

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little Asian girls, of little Hispanicgirls. We need every type of representation
of race, color, creed,eye color, hair color, everything like
that. We need to just inundateour culture with it because we've been so
lacking for what century of film,right, And like you have had the
privilege of having that kind of connection, and and like like any kind of

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woman or anything, any kind ofman really can like a boy or girl
can look up to Captain Marvel,but you have that intense connection because of
that, right, And I reallythink it comes from having a little girl.
Yeah, Like I think that that'swhy I'm getting emotional about it.
I'm sorry, guys. I thinkit's because you know that it's going to

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be hard for her, Yeah,and so having an example of you know,
getting back up, getting back up, that's the huge thing for me.
Yeah, I will be honest withyou that I m I started kicking
myself a little bit because I startedrevealing my own bias in my own mind
as I was watching it. Becausethere was a few times when I started

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internally rolling my eyes a little bit, like when we had like there was
one scene where she's kind of goingthrough her memories. Again this is not
spoilers, but like she's going throughher memories and we're seeing her fall down
repeatedly, like at different ages andeverything like that, and specifically being verbally
and emotionally abused by men. AndI think we got to like one point

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where like there was one pilot whosaid, like, you're never gonna make
it up there, like there's areason why they call it a cockpit.
And I rolled my eyes and Iwas just like, oh, you guys
are leaning into this really hard,like this is like geez, like like
did you have to have such quickfire succession of all this happening at once?
And then I started like as Isaid this to myself, and I
started like I had that knee jerkreaction of rolling my eyes. I'm like,

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how many stories of this have youheard from your mother, your sister,
your friends, your co workers likeyou like you have? I have
heard countless stories of way worse thanwhat Captain Marvel showed, ye and and
in way more frequency than what CaptainMarvel showed. And I feel like it's

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my own programming pop culture programming thatmakes me say like, okay, it's
okay to do that like once,but don't overdo it, like don't beat
a dead horse, like don't driveit home. But honestly, they're just
portraying the real world experience, especiallyin the nineties for a woman who wanted

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to be a fighter pilot, rightexactly. And I think also those type
of moments when you are put downlike that stick out in your heads exactly.
It's one of those things where likewhen when you are you know,
demeaned or a sexist comment is madeto you, it really does bury deep
sex with you. It really does. So I feel like it didn't bother

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me at all in that way.Oh yeah yeah, but for me,
for me just to clarify who wasa knee jerk that I immediately was just
like, well, I think youkind of like, okay, so spoiler
free. Still, I don't thinkit was the best movie ever, But
damn did I connect with it.I think that's I think that's very well
put. Is that, like,yeah, you you obviously connected with it,

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had a very very emotional attachment,had a hard time talking, yes,
But that doesn't mean that you thinkit's the Godfather or or Citizen King.
No, And I think that thisis a step in the right direction.
I do. I think there weresome flaws with story and like some
some things here and there that Iwas like, which we'll get into.

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Yeah. Absolutely, um, butwe're in the right direction and to see
that, And you know, I'mjust really hoping that we continue that we
have more like you were just talkingabout, have more representations, so that
it is a situation where every littlegirl, no matter how they look,
could have a superhero. And youknow, at Halloween we have like a

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ton of different superheroes, and youknow, little girls seeing that they can
be powerful and strong and not onlymentally but physically. And I think that's
really important. Absolutely. Yeah,you didn't really share what you thought about
or I wanted to hear you talk, Okay, I wanted to hear your

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experience, try to talk. Yeah, no, I was. I wasn't
going to interrupt you. I wantedto hear what you had to say.
I when I was watching it,I had a crap day today, Like
it was just it was super stressfuland I was I just like I had
so many deadlines on what I wasworking on and I'm traveling next next week,

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and so I'm going to lose twodays of productivity at work. And
I'm constantly like my job is verymuch deadline driven, like every day,
sometimes multiple times a day throughout theday, I am I'm hitting multiple deadlines.
And so I was just super dressedout. And then I was just
like, am I going to makethis movie? Because like we were in
question of whether or not we wereactually going to go to the movie.

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But then once we decided that wewere going to go, I was like,
I might be late. I can'tstand being late to a movie.
I don't want to be late toa movie. And so even though I
was incredibly stressed at the at theworkplace, I leave and I'm stressed because
I'm trying to get there, andthen we sit down, I'm I'm able
to relax. I'm just like,okay, right, just relax. I
just need something. I just needsomething, right. I don't care if

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it's Citizen Kane, I don't careif it's Samurai Cop. I just need
I need something in between, okay. And so my expectations were super low
because I was like, you wherelike the trailers did nothing for me,
they didn't move the needle. Ididn't think it was going to be garbage,
but I didn't think it was goingto be great either. I was
just like, whatever, baseline.But as I'm watching it, I started

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connecting it with it way more thanI expected. I felt like the pacing
was great. I felt the storywas very straightforward. It felt like it
didn't need to be a Marvel film. Like I felt like you could have
gone into this without seeing any kindof Marvel film. Ever, it's really
true and see it and go like, wow, that was a really cool
sci fi film. Yeah, yeah, And I really appreciated that. I

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mean, was there Marvel connections?Of course there were, as you know,
like were they absolutely important to know? The story? Not really right?
And and I just I started,like I caught one little hint of
a review, and it was somebodyjust completely bashing the humor, and I

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was just like, oh, well, you know, like sometimes Marvel can
get a little too joking, alittle too over the top, and it's
just kind of chew the scenery,and so I was expecting that from this,
and that's not the case at all. The case, Like I had
genuine reactions to the humor, Likewas I slapping my knee? No,
but I wasn't supposed to, right, absolutely, And so I was just
started being enraptured by all the charactersand um, just like I was laughing

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at the right moments, I wasintrigued by the action at the right moments.
You know, whenever there was plottwists, I was just like,
oh wait, hey, well cool, you know, like this is this
is interesting. And so as Ileft, I was just like, I
was like, wow, that wasthat was really entertaining. That was a
really entertaining time. I'm glad wewent and saw that. Yeah, and

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it was the same as you.I was just like, did I think
that was the best movie ever?No? But it was very very entertaining,
right Yeah. What did you thinkof Bree Larson as Captain Marwell?
I thought I thought she was fine. I I you know, you hear
all the criticisms of Bree Larson thatshe has one expression that um, she's
just kind of monotone, and youknow, she never smiles, and like,

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very certain things are true. Somethings are rooted in truth, other
things rooted in sexism. Um,she's also very very outspoken with her feminism
and with her social justice in civilrights issues, and so that rubs a
lot of people the wrong way sometimesbecause she's so outspoken and so sometimes people

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you know, when you don't likesomebody's personality in real life, it can
affect their view in you know,via characters. Obviously I'm not that way
with her, because more power toher for being outspoken, outspoken feminist.
But and I I really only watchedI think I've only seen one other Bree
Larsen film and it was cong Oh, and she didn't really have much to

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do in cong Yeah, I wasgonna say, I don't think I've had
enough Bree Larsen movies to really havethat kind of preconceived judgment of her.
So going into this, I reallyliked her as Captain Marvel. Like I
thought that she was cute but alsostrong, Like her sense of humor was

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dry, but like, I likethat sense of humor, so the her
delivery didn't bother me in the least. So so I was it was interesting
because like watching the previews for CaptainMarvel, I thought that she was going
to be very like stoic and liketoo serious. But I was like,
but it's pre lars and I've heardthat she's more, you know, a

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little bit more I don't know,like having more humor to her. And
then I thought it was like theperfect level of It's not like she was
like cracking jokes constantly, but shewas witty, and I thought it was
totally I liked the amount of humor. I thought she was great. Well
when okay, again, like yousee in the trailer that she gets captured,

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and so during that scene when sheescapes, because we all know she's
going to escape, like, I'mnot spoiling anything for you guys, when
she the way that she was fighting, and the way that she entered a
room and held herself and just herfacial expressions, like when one guy was
screaming at her and she screamed backand like stuck her tongue out and everything
like that. I was just like, Okay, I'm with you, Yeah,

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yeah, I'm with you. Likethis that's that's hilarious without being absurd,
right right, And it still hasthat Marvel feeling where it's not so
serious that you're like, whoa,we need to take it down a notch.
Yeah, you know, when youwatch a Marvel film, you know
that you're going to laugh at somepoint at some point exactly, So I

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she won me over, Like Ireally liked her, and you also you
don't want to go too serious becauseat the same time, you're just like,
we're dealing with green lizard people anda woman who shoots fire bolts out
of her hands right right, rightthings in perspective exactly exactly. So,
yeah, I think like I likedher more than I expected just from the
reputation that I've heard, because I'vehad so little experience with her acting,

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um, and so like, yeah, she she won me over. I
don't think she was the She definitelydidn't give an over the top performance.
No, but that wasn't called thatwasn't called. Yeah, That's that's what
I'm saying. It's just like likesome I'm What I'm trying to say is
that if you don't like Bree Larsonand think that she's like monotone and doesn't

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change your face, you're probably notgoing to change your opinion because you don't
like her like. But if youdo like her, this is just going
to reinforce that. That's what I'mtrying to say. Well, I think
that goes for any actor. Ifyou don't like them, right, It's
it's true, like we you're gonnabasically you're you're gonna take your bias with
you when you go see this film. Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah, this

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is not going to change any heartsand minds. Yeah, but I liked
her and you did too. Idid too. Yeah. I think the
main reason why bring that up isbecause there's been so oh just I don't
I don't want to talk about itfor a long time because you have the
online perspective. I don't have any. Yeah, that's that's like, that's
why I was rambling a second ago, just because all of these bros,

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all these frat broy fanboy bros,just can't stand Bree Larson because she's an
out This film isn't for them,exactly exactly. You don't have to watch
it, but they like Rotten Tomatoesactually turned off its audience rating system until
today for this movie because they werebeing inundated with negative reviews from people who

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hadn't seen the movie yet. Whatis wrong with people? And it's because
they can't stand seeing a woman onscreen in a position of power, and
they can't stand Bree Larson because she'san outspoken feminist and they couldn't stand that
they were leaning hard into the feministidealism in their marketing. And you know,

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like there's multiple people out there.It's just like, oh, I
don't I don't like, I don'twant to see politics when when I go
to the movies, I just Ijust I just want a good movie that's
driven by plat I'm sorry. Feminismisn't politics. It's human decency. So
this is not I know, likeit's the same people that probably are like,
oh I wish that Captain Marvel wasa man. No, essentially,

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you know, that's what you're sayingto me is that you don't value women.
Essentially. It's the it's the samepeople who thinks think Ray as a
merry Sue from Star Wars and allthose people. Yeah, yeah, it's
that's sad. But I don't wantto talk about it because it's nonsense.
That's pretty sad. I didn't knowany of that, so I didn't watch
it with that. But like,n but like this this movie, like

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people are going in droves and peoplelike this movie is making money. It's
breaking records on pre sales and ticketsales and Thursday sales and weekend sales.
Yeah, so which is great.These these fanboy neck beards are not doing
anything to damage it except a littlerating on a website. Yeah, and
if they talk more about it,then probably people would be like, oh,

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I should go see that, justto screw you over, exactly,
pimply faced. There was a lotof um, like dads with their their
girls. There was, and Iloved seeing that. I loved it.
I saw, yeah, I saw. We saw dads with little girls,
and we also saw some mothers withsons. Yeah. Yeah, it was

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really cool. And um, Imean, our audience was very small.
We went had a really weird timeon a Friday night, which not even
night. We went to like afour or forty show, so it was
really early, so it was asmall crowd. But they all clapped,
which was really cool. I was. I was kind of surprised by that.

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I don't think I've ever clapped atthe end of a movie, just
because I'm like, they're not here, they can't hear me, like gree
Larson's not here. But yeah,it was. It was. It was
a good crowd and um, atthe end of the movie it said Captain
Marvel will return for Avengers endgame andlike, there's this one guy behind us

(30:51):
went damn righteous it was we werelaughing, so I I think I clapped
for that guy. Yeah, thatguy is awesome. Okay, she begin
to spoilers. How about this?Do you think people should see it in
the theater or is it okay towait? I think you should see it

(31:14):
in the theater because I think thatto go into endgame not knowing who Captain
Marvel is when she'd better be avery essential character and she's going to be
she's going to be. I thinkyou should also just to support like a
female driven superhero film that we don'toften get. So yes, you should

(31:38):
go see it. I think I'mleaning more towards that rationale than the endgame
rationale. Yeah, but like thinkabout seeing endgame and not having that connection
to the character. I think thatyou do need a connection to that character.
I think I'm going to disagree withyou on that one because I feel
like endgame will be structured enough.Well, I'm sure they'll like make sure

(32:01):
everyone's caught up in some way,shape or form, but I think to
really enjoy that character or like havesome have some feeling towards the character,
I think it would help. Well, I think, yeah, it'll definitely
help, but it'll definitely enrich theexperience. I think. I'm from the
camp though that if you are solelyif you if you don't want to go

(32:22):
see Captain Marvel, like I thinkyou should because it's a good film.
But if you want to save yourmoney and you just want to like your
your movie budget is tight and youcan only go see Endgame, go see
Endgame and they'll catch you up withCaptain Marvel. Because I for that reason,
because I don't want to go intospoiler reasons, but that's just me.
I think you should go see it. Where you go, Okay,

(32:44):
yeah, let's go ahead and getinto a spoiler territory. So you have
been warned, folks. That's right. We've had we had a big,
long section that was spoiler free andhopefully it helped with your with your decision
to go if you have it yet. And so warning, warning, warning,
spoiler, spoiless spoiler. I'm superglad that I completely forgot about the

(33:09):
Cree before I saw this movie.Why do you say that? Well,
Okay, here's the thing is that, like Ronan, the accuser is Cree,
right, he's a bad guy.And um, the Cree we're in
a war with. I think theywere called the Novans, like the people
from Nova Prime, like all theGuardians of the galaxies, right right right,

(33:31):
and so like some people would saythat the Cree are bad because they're
slavers and warmongers, but some saythat's just like some Cree. And then
there's other Cree who didn't like thewar that happened with the Nova Prime but
like the treaty something that didn't likethe treaty bah fake intergalactic politics, right.
Um, I forgot the name thatthat race was Cree. Yeah,

(33:52):
I did too. So when Iwent into Captain Marvel and Jude Law and
you know, a net Binning andthat the Green group of superheroes basically right
the millet that that strike force,that Cree strike force, I was just
like, oh, it's an alienrace, Cree that we've never heard of
before. So I had no idealike are they bad? Are they good?

(34:14):
Right? You just assume that they'regood because they are presented that way
in the cinematic adventure in the beginning, right right. Um. No,
I had the same feeling too.I totally forgot about the name Cree.
I mean, maybe that makes usbad fans, but um, I totally
forgot and like you said, there'scould be two sides of it, um,

(34:35):
But yeah, it was interesting.I think I had some like did
you have any inklings that like,again we're in spoiler tars store here,
um that like the Cree were bad? Did you have any No. I
hate admitting that because whenever I do, I feel stupid because there's some people
out there who will hear me sayno, I didn't see it coming,

(34:55):
which I really didn't, um,And there's going to be some some some
d bag out there who's going tomessage me and says like, oh my
god, you didn't see that coming? Were you not paying attention? And
to that hypothetical d bag, Isay, screw you. Um. The
only thing that I felt was off, Like I didn't necessarily feel like they
were going to be the bad guys, but I did feel like there's going

(35:16):
to be some type of like rejectionof Jude Law because of the way he
was speaking to her like they werethey were chummy, but they were um
Like the way he was talking abouther emotions. I was like, this
can't go well. Like that's interestingbecause how I saw it was pure mentorship.

(35:37):
Really, yeah, I didn't.I didn't see you red flags whatsoever.
No, that's how I saw it. I was like, hmmm.
And also him saying like I cantake it away, like you can,
I can take that power away.I was like, maybe just because he's
just so handsome, anything he saidanything like, dude, he blinded you.

(36:02):
I think just the fact that hewas like, yeah, that can
be taken away. I was like, that doesn't. That doesn't bode well
for that relationship, Like there hasto be some type of turning point.
I'm super glad they didn't make itany kind of weird romantic entanglement. That
is a huge plus for this wholefilm. That would have been so easy
to do. Right, So shedoesn't have any like there is no romantic

(36:28):
entanglements, which is fantastic. Infact, they focus on friendship. Female
friendship, which is so important andI feel like so often in film is
ignored. Um because unfortunately, likeusually you see women like kind of beat

(36:49):
each other down or like petty ortheir end up like you know, comparing
or something like that. Um,Whereas you saw like a really true friendship
where it was and it was reallybeautiful. Yeah. Yeah, so I
felt really good about that decision thatthey did not, like, I don't
know, I was so think,oh my gosh, because they could have

(37:10):
they could have gone that way thatjould Blast character, they could have even
would have been weird. But theycould have gone that way with Samuel Jackson's
character Herry, um, which justthe idea of that, like in her
coming back, would have been reallyvery odd choice. But I'm just saying
they could have done all those theydo. It's so funny because the d
aging of Samuel Jackson was done reallywell, oh my gosh, so well,

(37:35):
super flawless, flawlessly. But atthe same time, if you just
put today like Samuel Jackson today thereand said like he was d aged,
I'd be like, oh, sure, yeah, okay, that's sam Jackson
from the nineties. It just becomesso good. The man himself is is
pretty ageless. Um, So younever can know, but like I could

(37:57):
really tell with with with Colson likethat, you could definitely really wait what
do you mean, wait Colson?Really you felt that way more with Colson
than with Samuel Jackson's character. What, No, No, What what I'm
saying is that like Samuel. WhatI was about to say was you could
really tell they spent more time onsat Jackson's d aging than Colson's because Colson

(38:19):
really wasn't in it that much atall. And so there was a few
times when I was just like hefelt a little shiny, a little too
smooth, like he like he's he'snot a baby, like he's like he's
not like fresh from the hospital,like we're thirty. Yeah, starting to
show some age, so it's okay, all right, Um, yeah,

(38:43):
So there was a couple of thosemoments. That's that's what I meant,
um, but also just Samuel Jacksonin general, he just doesn't crack.
So uh yeah, I thought Ithought that was great. I thought Samuel
Jackson was Samuel Jackson. Yeah,but I mean seeing him in more of
a I don't know, like himpartnering up and being more the focus than

(39:06):
just this guy that like pops inNow and then, Yeah, I really
enjoyed that. Yeah. Would youwould you say this is the most screen
time he's gotten in one movie.I mean, besides maybe not bind but
like I would think so for sure, right right, it needs to be
he was he sounds screen all thetime. He really was. I would

(39:27):
I want to go back and comparethe first Avengers because I feel like he
had the most the most up tillnow. I feel like he's had the
most screen time in that one exceptMay maybe Winter Soldier. Then again,
I don't know, I don't know. Well, I enjoyed. I enjoyed
the performance. Yeah, I thoughtI liked I liked the pairing. I
liked how they worked off of eachother quite well, and they kind of

(39:47):
played with it a little bit atthe beginning where you're just like, wait,
does he know about this? Likeis he a member of Shield or
is he like FBI or is heYeah, like what is he? Because
like he when he held up hisbadge to Marvel, Captain Marvel, we
didn't see what it was right right, So we're like, how clueless is

(40:07):
he? Right now? Like isthis what brings him into the Fold?
But he was already a member ofShield, but he was unaware of the
cosmic forces that were going on.So that's really cool, really interesting.
I mean, he handled it prettywell, considering well, this is also
like an organization that dealt with CaptainAmerica, And that's true, you know,
like the Nazis like trying to takeover the world with you know.

(40:29):
So he's seen some crazy he's seensome crazy stuff. Yeah. Interesting.
Yeah, I enjoyed him in this, and I thought it was interesting.
I think the ad aging was reallygood. M what did you think about
the whole like memory, like goingback in memory and also like having this

(40:51):
one time, Like what did youbecause I thought looking at the previews,
I thought we were like going tobe in the nineties for part of it
and then going to like what waslike modern day or something, or not
even modern day, but like goinginto space or something. I was glad
that they did it the way thatthey did because I was glad that they
kind of threw us in the middleof it, which I always appreciate.

(41:13):
And the going back and time thing, it wasn't a flashback, no,
it was literally an alien going throughher memories. That gives it that extra
edge. And the way that theyedited together as in that was blending,
and they were going through it andyou could hear their voices talking over the
memories. That was very engaging tome and very interesting as opposed to just

(41:37):
Captain Marvel kind of looking out awindow and then all of a sudden we're
back to absolutely, like that wouldhave been boring and we've seen that done
so many times that it's just like, you know, and let's stop doing
that. Whereas this gave it aframing device to kind of play with that
in her mind. And even likedoing the whole Annette bending like walking one

(41:58):
direction, walking other deck and likefast wearing and like freezing and stuff like
that, that was just really interesting. And even like seeing her like kind
of interacting with it, that wasreally cool. I really enjoyed that.
I was like, Okay, we'redoing something different. That's really neat,
Like we're accomplishing the same thing.Yep, we're doing it in a very
different way. That's very interesting.Absolutely, Yeah, I really did enjoy

(42:22):
that. Um. I'm going toskip ahead a little bit, just because
I'm thinking about it right now,like you were talking about like during those
memories of her falling down and thengetting back up. Ye seeing that.
Um. The moment that connected tome, and I think this is because
I'm apparent now, is when uBen Mendelssohn, the lead scroll, sees

(42:44):
his family for the first time insix years. I I connected with that.
I was just like, oh,like I was like I wasn't like
getting getting too emotional, but Iwas just like, oh, that's that's
hitting home little bit. Like theway that he played that and acted that
was very believable, very real,even though he had so much prosthetics on

(43:08):
his face. Yeah, you feltthat you felt that pain of not seeing
your family, of not seeing yourlittle girl grow up, and your wife
not knowing what to do right andleaving her all in her own to raise
this kid, but not by choice. Like like, i immediately put myself

(43:30):
in that situation, and I'm like, what on earth would I think and
feel in that moment of seeing Ripleyfor the first time in six years?
Yeah, that would be insane andreally rough, And I think it's that
was such an interesting how that immediatelymade you change your mind about the character,

(43:53):
Like, and it's so interesting howthat emotional connection just immediately flipped on
his tidy were like, I meanoh okay, Like I mean he had
said that before. Yeah, thenyou were like, yes, now we
need to help them. Not onlydo we need to get him where he

(44:14):
needs to go, but we needto help the family and all like the
refugees exactly. Yeah, what didyou think about his performance. What did
you think about him as a characterand as a bad guy at first?
Oh, I really liked that.I thought it was really interesting. I
think like the idea of like ashape shifter, I mean, we've seen
it done so many times, butthe personality that he had where he was

(44:35):
able to kind of like give andtake with like the humor of it.
I really enjoyed it. There wassomething about his character like I really enjoyed
him too. And I think he'sa great actor. He's not always in
the best of movies, but healways gives a great performance in whatever movie
he's in. And he is oneof those guys that I wouldn't I wouldn't

(44:58):
say he's a chameleon, which isfunny to say because he played because he
played a ship shifter m but heis someone who can take the littlest of
moments and make you not overdo itand make you feel something like when his
when they were doing the autopsy onthe scroll and he was saying goodbye,

(45:22):
like that felt very intimate and veryvery interesting and it's not something that you
would normally see out of a badguy, right right, And and it
also wasn't over the top and sothat should have been like my first inkling
that, oh, this guy,there's something more going on with this guy.

(45:44):
There's there's something more than just beinga generic bad guy. Because Marvel
does not have the best track recordwith interesting bad guys. You have basically
they're getting better because you have killMonger and Thanos. That's pretty much out
of ten years of definitely the best. But I mean, I yeah,

(46:05):
and I mean this guy he wasn'tyou know, he wasn't truly a bad
guy. But I thought that thatshift was really good. I mean,
he had a lot to mention,that's for sure. When we did think
that he was the bad guy,I was gonna say he like he was
the antagonist for the most of thefilm, right, so I think he
can be labeled that way. Ohyeah, I understand. M. So

(46:27):
that that, like you talked aboutlike not knowing or being iffy about jud
Law and everything like that. Butwhen the twist finally happened, actually happened,
we got the black box. Howdid you feel? Um? I
thought that it was an interesting twistbecause I like, even though I had
like the an inkling that Jude Lawmight have been not the best I didn't

(46:51):
really think that like her whole likewhere she came from, was going to
be bad so or like you know, uh, like the enemy again Steam
the other species of alien or whateverthe scrolls. Yeah, So I thought
that was an interesting twist because Ihad no, I didn't see that coming
for sure, Right, did yousee that coming? No? I didn't.

(47:13):
I That's that's one of those thingswhere I'm just like, nope,
completely didn't see it coming. Yeah, I didn't expect it because I was
watching a Marvel film. I wasjust like, no, pretty straightforward,
going to be formula, and itwasn't. Yeah, but yeah, and
that also like again like I'm I'mnot the biggest um. I don't have
expansive comic knowledge either when it comesto Marvel. Like I'm way more of

(47:37):
a DC guy when it comes tocomics, and with Marvel, I kind
of pretty much just stayed with IronMan and Spider Man and everything like that,
and so like I didn't really getdeep into cosmic Marvel films. So
you know, I don't have it. I'm sure that there's fans out there
who were just like, oh,well when you heard Jude Law's character's name,
which I don't even know yoglog orsomething like that. Something weird,

(47:59):
Um, like, how how wouldyou not know that? Like y'all glog
was defeated by Marvel, you know, like crap like that. But no,
I, honest to god, didn'tsee it coming. And I think
that's great. And if you didsee it coming, good for you because
you're usually like the first to kindof see things coming between the two of
us. So I'm I mean,that's a good thing. I love being

(48:23):
surprised because it very rarely happens,right, Um, And I'm trying.
I'm trying to think, like whatAs I was watching it, I was
just like, what am I ratingthis? How am I EXPERI am I
experiencing this? I really need tostop doing that and just wait until it's
over. Yeah, you do.But if what's something we kept gushing about

(48:49):
it and how we connected with iton an emotional level? How we enjoyed
Bree Larson's performance? What was somethingthat you didn't really like her that you
could have done without or you wouldhave changed or altered. I really liked
the honestly, like the beginning,um, like even the first and second
act. I think we're really strong. I think the third act is usually

(49:12):
where Marvel films tend to have ahard time with me. UM. I
think I didn't really clearly understand whather powers were, um and like how
they functioned. And I don't Idon't need that. I need to know
like like nitty gritty Okay, Idon't, UM, but I guess like

(49:32):
I was, I was like,wow, like she just became I think
you even you you mentioned this likeMarvel's Superman, and I guess I was
just like, whoa, we wejust went from here to there very quickly.
I felt like the transformation was alittle like rapid fire. Um.

(49:55):
Not that she hadn't been like transformingyou know internally and stuff that and like
kind of you know, gained herconfidence and realized that she was, you
know, able to like summon itfrom within, but like now she's able
to be in space. Yeah.And then I was like okay, and
I was it was like I wasplaying catch up, like I can accept

(50:16):
it. But I felt a littlelike did I miss something I was in
that third act? I had ahard time with that. I had a
pretty easy time accepting it, Ohdid you okay? UM, but it
wasn't. But but my brain waskind of working like yours a little bit,
but not so much because I couldn'taccept it. But I was also
just like, did she know thatshe can breathe in space or like yeah,

(50:39):
like it, especially at the endshe was she didn't even have like
her helmet on. I was justkind of like, did you do a
trial and error? You're like,what if you screwed up? You know,
like what if you went a littletoo far? I was like,
oh, I'm super powerful, I'mgonna go into space. Oh my god,
this was a mistake, right,And I mean I knew that she
had to be super powerful for herto be like the one they call you

(51:02):
know after, you know, right, like we need Captain Marvel, Like,
okay, she must be awesome.But I mean the fact that she
was able to stop the missiles fromlike, I mean, I was just
like, whoa, where did thiscome from? So I think that that

(51:25):
was that was where I was like, Okay, this isn't his isn't the
best thing in the world. I'mtotally on board with all the feminism and
like, go girl power, butwhoa, Like, it wouldn't matter whether
it was a girl of superhero ornot. I'd be like, how did
she get to do that all ofa sudden? Yeah, and how did

(51:45):
she know that it would work?I think it's it's one of those things
where I feel like sci fi andfantasy often has a very hard time balancing
powers where this is my go toexample, and this kind of dates me
a little bit, But Hercules theLegendary Journeys, Sorry Kevin Sorbo, there
was in that show. Like he'sHercules, so he's strong, but in

(52:10):
one episode you see him literally lifthalf of a mountain okay, or like
like keep it from falling, andthen two episodes later he's struggling with a
small boulder. Okay. And whenI saw when I saw the third act,
when like she was when she gotrid of the inhibited inhibitor or device

(52:32):
whatever you fall it, right,and then she started like you know,
busting skulls and splitting wigs. Iwas I was kind of like, Okay,
well, you're you're having a hardtime with these people that used to
fight with who. I mean,they're strong, they're stronger than humans,
but they're not like Thanos or anythinglike that, right, But then all
of a sudden, she's moving agigantic missile, right, you know,

(52:54):
as she's flying, and I'm justlike like, are you now in Invincible?
Like she's going through starships and makingthem explode? Right, are you
now a god? I was.That's why I was. That's where I
got really confused, and I wasthen I got in my head, right,
so like the whole time I'm withher, with her, with her,

(53:15):
and I understand the powers on likethe limitations of the powers, and
like sometimes when she uses her handsagainst someone, uh what is it,
it's like electricity or like photon okay, photons, it doesn't always kill them.
But then we moved from that tolike you said, destroying a starship

(53:36):
just with her with her hands andjust going through it. Yeah, So
that was really that That's where Iwas like, wait a minute, like
my logic like I wasn't able tojust sit back and relax at that point
because I was just like hold up, yeah, yeah, I get it,
like I get it, like itwas. I accepted it because it

(53:58):
was looks cool, But at thesame time, I couldn't shut my brain
off yeah and and think because likewe're built to think that way. We're
built on this on this realm.Of sci fi and fantasy. We are
accustomed to explanations of things, right, and there was a lot of leap
of face in this And I don'tthink I don't I'm not necessarily saying that

(54:21):
as a knock because like when alike when the scrolls, like the science
guy scroll, which I thought washilarious, She's like, really, you're
my science guy man, that Ilove. That's where I think I like
was like I love this character.Um, and when the science guy is
just like, oh, I cantotally modify your ship to go into space,
I'm like, really, Kenya,like with the with just the crap

(54:42):
that's in her garage, that's sofunny. Yeah. No, well,
I mean I even had that likethought when she went to Radio Shack and
like I was going to adapt thephone. I was like, wait,
really the Radio Shack will give her? Oh no, I know you loved
that. No, I thought itwas hilarious. But I also like that
point. I was in my headbeing like that's gonna work. I mean,

(55:02):
if et can do it, okay, all right, all right,
But I'm just saying That's where Ilike was like, okay, let go
of that, Let go and thenlike let it, but at that point
where her powers shifted so drastically,that's where I got in my head,
really got in my head. Ijust kind of wish that she brought out

(55:23):
a speaking spell, like, yeah, I get that, though, I
get that. I love the Blackbusterreference too, because long time listeners will
know I worked at a Blackbuster formy first job. It was so like
I immediately thought of that, yeahwhen when she landed, And also like
she blew up a poster of ora stand up of True Lies, Yes,

(55:44):
and Arnold's head was exploded, andbehind her I saw three more Arnold
movies as she was walking around,And I'm just like, was that done
on purpose or was it just becauseit's the nineties everywhere? Probably that,
But again, like that's such agreat way to like date where she is

(56:04):
of like Blackbuster, True Lies orstand Up, Like, Okay, I
know exactly what year it is,and just the hilarity of the fact that
it was a Blockbuster next to ourradio check and we have neither of those
anymore. I think I loved whenI found out that they were this was
going to be set in the nineties, I was like, oh man,

(56:28):
the music's going to be crazy.Yeah, right, are you so much
fun? So fine? And itwas And regardless of the music, like
um, like when when they broughtout No Doubt, No Doubts, I'm
just a girl. I'm just kindof like okay, see, I was
like they had to see that.My thought was like, this is the
appropriate moment if you're gonna do it, like do it now. Regardless of

(56:49):
the pop music that they used,I really enjoyed the score of this film.
Yeah, it was likely they useda lot of electronic beats that were
less nineties four or eighties. ButI'm not complaining because I thought it's sounded
great. Yeah, it was good. I liked it, but it wasn't
like so in your face that distractedme at all. It was it was
like a good tone. I likehow it was shot too. I thought

(57:09):
it was very clean and classic withhow it was shot as a very textbook.
And I say that as a complimentbecause I feel like there's so many
times like oh geez, like justlike last night's Star Trek Discovery, like
the way that was shot good,lowered, like calm down. There was
a moment in Discovery this week whereI was like, am I going to

(57:30):
be sick. Oh am, Ion a ride right now. Just give
us the information, give us afew interesting angles. I'm not I'm not
gonna anyway. I'm just gonna rageif I talk about that. Moving on,
But like, no, this wasthis was very clean, very classic.
It was almost as if it wasshot like a nineties film. And

(57:51):
there was I think a moment whenshe's in the meadow when she it's just
after she hears the black box,and I thought, like the lighting was
perfect. It was dusk. It'svery hard to light that kind of like
it was actually just after dusk.It's super hard to light that. But
it looked great, kind of feltvery man of steely. Yeah, yeah,

(58:12):
yeah, I really appreciate that.Um, I'm trying to think of
other things that it didn't really digon. I mean, there was a
few times they like in the thirdact where you get out like your your
your own head gets in your ownway. Um, there was what do
you think about furious eye because thatwas my kind of eye roll. It

(58:32):
was like the two basically like almostlike losing his eye over like I guess
like once he almost in and thenthe cat is the reason they become a
gat It became a dead because healmost lost his eye like two times.
But then when he like when hewas in his office and uh Coulson comes
in and says like, oh,did they really burn out your act?

(58:54):
Felt like that made it okay becausethen I laughed. So then I was
like, all right, I'll givethat to you. But I did I
roll my eye when it happened withthe Cat did. Yeah, I went
through the same journey as you did. Like when it happened with the Cat,
I was just like, don't makeit that lame. I know,
don't make it that lame. It'slike, leave it so we don't see

(59:15):
it. And so it happens offscreenwith some other adventure, right that we
don't know about. But then whenhe's like when Colson came in, I
felt the same way. I wasjust like, okay, that is kind
of funny, right right? Yeah? What did you What did you think
about the Stinger end game? Likethe connection? I'm sorry, I was
like, is there a character I'mmissing? Um? I thought it was

(59:39):
fine, Like it was nothing crazy, it was kind of underwhelming. Yeah.
I was just like, Okay,it was very factual, right,
which is fine. Not everything,not everything has to blow you away,
but like it was just like theAvengers fiddling with the pager and then she
just shows up. Yeah, justlike not even like she doesn't fly in,

(01:00:00):
she doesn't like photon me. She'slike, is there, Like she's
been there the whole time. Shesays where it's Fury. End of stinger.
I'm just like, oh, okay, yeah, yeah. I kind
of felt like, hmm, allright, whatever. I didn't really need
to stay for that. But that'sI mean, you know, honestly,
like after the six post credit stingersof Guardians of the Galaxy too, I

(01:00:22):
appreciate one simple that's very true.That's true, like, just don't keep
giving them to me. So,is there anything else that you want to
say or talk about before we closeup shop? Um? Like I said,
I you know, it's funny becauseI feel like this is one of
those films like maybe on second viewingit could talk more about things that are

(01:00:45):
more issues, but I think likethe fact that I was just so like
what this was doing for, youknow, for women, like the fact
that we have another superhero that isn'tWonder Woman and more of a relatable superhero.
I think that that's one of thosethings where I was like I was

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one hundred percent in and I didn'texpect to be at all. I know
there are flaws in here, LikeI know it's not a perfect film.
I don't even it's definitely not eventhe best Marvel film, But I do
think that you have to give itthat power that it's a really good film,
and I think like little girls shouldsee it to have another role model

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to look up to. And Ienjoyed it, like I really did enjoy
the experience, Like I enjoyed watchingit. Again, I'm not saying it's
perfect. I know there's lots offlaws, but it was a good watch.
Well, Like we're riding high ona movie that we enjoy right now,
so it's hard to kind of nitpick. Yeah, and sometimes when we

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go back and we watch something wherelike, yeah, there's more than a
few times like a Star Wars filmand a Bond film of mind right now
where I was jazzed when I sawin the theater, and then on second
viewing, I'm just like, ohman, this is crushing right all right,
But it like what kind of whatyou're describing with Captain Marvel's a little

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bit like with Black Panther, wherethe cultural significance is more important than the
quality of the film. Yeah,I think so. I think so.
I think you know, we gettingsome characters that, um, especially with
that Black Panther, where we havesuch a the cast is one that we've
never seen before in this in thisclimate where we're like, all right,

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let's add some diversity to our superheroesand they don't all have to look a
certain way. And uh, youknow, having females involved as well,
like that was awesome in Black Pantherand now having Crapt to Marvel again,
we're in the right direction and maybesoon we'll have you know, like a

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female minority. Yeah, like apersonal color superhero exactly, every fantastic Let's
not wait another ten years, rightexactly, you know before we figure that
out. But hopefully, like thistime, I hope it's successful. I
really do. Like I said,even if it's not the best movie ever,
I hope it's successful so that itsends a message that we need this

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type of superhero. How would yourate it? I always love your ratings.
Well, it's so hard because,like I said, as a film
or as like the impact, it'sit's kind of make me, um,
so we're out of five out offive? It's always out of five letterbox
rules? Can I do like atthree point seven? Sure, Okay,

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that's closer to three point five.Okay, that's fine. Like I said,
I like, I know when Iwatch it again, I'm gonna be
like, all right, I sawthat. Like I That's how I know
I'm gonna feel. But the factthat she exists and she has a movie,
I would give it more than that. I U. It's interesting because

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I'm always much more lenient than youare. Yeah, when it comes to
ratings I give. I always givemore stars than you because if I enjoy
it, I'm just like, yeah, yeah, I enjoyed it. Like
it doesn't you know, it doesn't. It has its issues, but like
that's why I feel like, youknow, like a five star film that
is the best of the best fourand a half, I mean solid solid,

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like just a phenomenal movie, butlike one thing I would have done
differently, or just one thing thatdidn't really land on me. Four stars
I give out kind of easily,Yeah you do, because I'm just like,
like four stars is like good filmissues but like but like a like
there's some things there like it's nota four and a half, it's not

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five, but like it's good.Three and a half is like, no,
that was good. That was agood time. That was a good
time. But you know it's kindof you know, it's just good.
It's not great, it's great.And three is just kind of like it's
okay, miss the mark on afew things. This one. I feel
the same way as you do,where like my knee jerk reaction is like,

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oh, four stars, like outof five, that's four stars.
This is this is this is thisis really entertaining. I think that's the
main thing. Is it's entertaining.Is that like a movie is this isn't
This is not a movie that's supposedto make me think or ponder my existence
in the universe. It's supposed toentertain me because she's shooting fire out of
her fingers and so and I wasentertained. So you you did your job.

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Four stars. But you know,because I'm also a little bit cynical
of this, cynical of a fewthings where I'm just kind of like,
oh, the third act is alittle weird, like I couldn't get out
of my own head. Maybe that'sdown to three and a half. But
I mean I rated like a rogueone three and a half, so I
feel like I'm gonna I probably Ithink I'm probably gonna sell it at a

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four stars, just because it's soentertaining, Okay, Yeah, And I
think I have a little bit ofhard time because sometimes I feel like,
you know, it's so hard comparingfilms too, because like, you know,
how would you compare this to likethe Favorite. There's such different beasts,
right, Like true, You're like, okay, I gave the same
score the Favorite as Captain. Youknow. It's just like when you look

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back at your scores, you're justlike, Okay, I enjoyed that film.
You gotta like when yeah, whenI look back at my my scores
and everything like that, like it'seasy to make that joke and do that
thing like, oh I scored thisthe same as Yeah. Yeah, but
you gotta you gotta put apples toapples. You gotta look at other superhero
films, right, and other actionfilms and things like that. It's true.

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Yeah, all right, Well that'sour show, everybody. We went
over an hour on Captain Marvel,and we had a great time, and
I thought it was very entertaining,and like the girl thinks you should go
see it in theater, I thinkso. I'm kind of of the point
where like, even though it wasreally entertaining, if you want to save
some money, save it for endgame, that's kind of my I'm staying and

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go see it. So you senda message that we need more superheroes like
this, and that is definitely whereI'm falling, more so than the end
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you. I love that woman.I love a more than shots love, blood,