May 20, 2019 • 48 mins
Live-action Star Wars shows coming to a streaming box near you!
"The Mandalorian" and Rogue One Prequel are coming to Disney+ in the near future. The first of their kind and we at Nerd Nuptial are very excited. A rumored third live-action show is coming as well ... but what could it be?
In this episode, we discuss what we'd like to see and what we hope they stay away from. Knights of the Old Republic? Rebels prequel? Some completely original? Listen to find out.
"The Mandalorian" and Rogue One Prequel are coming to Disney+ in the near future. The first of their kind and we at Nerd Nuptial are very excited. A rumored third live-action show is coming as well ... but what could it be?
In this episode, we discuss what we'd like to see and what we hope they stay away from. Knights of the Old Republic? Rebels prequel? Some completely original? Listen to find out.
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Welcome to the nerd polity. It'sgoing. Yes, worry me. I
love you and I like you.I love you and I like you.
I love that woman. I lovea more than shots love bloody. Hello.
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I'm Tristan Rudel and I'm the girl. And this is Nerd Nuptual,
Episode one hundred and thirty. Ifthis is your first time listening, we
are a married couple looking at lifethrough a nerdy lens. How are you
doing? I'm good? How areyou? I'm doing fantastic good. Because
we're talking about some Star Wars today. And what did we watch today?
We watch Star Wars, that's right, Hope. Well, actually, well
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it wasn't technically a new Hope whenit came out. No, And we
watch the theatrical editions, which ishard to fund, No, but it
was fun watching theatrical edition, theoriginal edition, the one that came out
in nineteen seventy seven, and soit kind of got us into a nineteen
seventy seven state of mind, aStar Wars state of mind, if you
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will, and coming out this yearlater this year, in twenty nineteen,
I believe November November of twenty nineteen, Disney plus Disney's own streaming service is
coming out. And this news brokeabout a month ago, maybe a little
bit more somewhere in there, andwe didn't we didn't talk about it then,
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maybe briefly, but we want totalk about it a little bit more
in depth today, but mainly theStar Wars aspect of it, since Disney
now owns everything, and one bigproperty of that being Star Wars. And
so they're coming out with two liveaction Star Wars shows, which we've never
gotten before, not live action,right, We've gotten cartoons, we've gotten
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CGI and of course we've had liveaction movies, but not live action television
format. And so the first oneis called The Mandalorian, starring Pedro Pascal
and executive producer Jon Favreau, andit takes place after a Return of the
Jedi, but before Force awakens.So like, we haven't spent a lot
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of time in there, right,right, And that'll be a lot of
fun. Yeah, And Pedro Pascal, the only thing you and I have
seen him in was Triple Frontier onNetflix, and I mean he's a part
of Game of Thrones cast. Yeah, yeah, we don't watch Game of
Thrones and h and yeah, soit'll be interesting to see what he brings
to the table. And I'm justfascinated to see something take place after a
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Jedi. Yeah, and I thinkit's smart to do something with like there
is no known character that I knowof, Yeah, at least from the
description that they've described. So itfeels like safe territory because you're not gonna,
I don't know, mess up acharacter that's beloved or something like that.
Like I think that's the smart moveon their behalf, Like Obi One's
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a hunter now or something something weird. We're like, no, that's not
the way it should be. Andso that's going to be available upon launch
and on the second year that ofDisney. Plus they're coming out with an
untitled cassiean and Or series. AndCassi Cassie and Andor was the guy in
Rogue one, like the lead guyin Rogue one. Yeah, And so
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obviously it's a prequel because everybody diedin Rogue way right spoiler. And Alan
Tutick is coming back for KWOS forK twos, so and so that'll be
interesting. Like we weren't the biggestRogue one fans, I mean, we
really like the third act. Imean who didn't, right, But I
mean we didn't feel super attached tothe characters at all, not really so,
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but again, like we don't knowa super Ton or and we're not
super connected to that character. Sothat's probably safe again, right, that
you have a character that you're dealingwith that you just can build on,
and we haven't. We didn't getto see him for very long, no,
and I think there was it wasa character I definitely wanted to know
more about and more about his exploitsbecause obviously we saw his last one,
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and being a rebel rogue, youknow, like a rebel spy and be
very interesting. Oh yeah, andhaving a thriller of a of a TV
show should be should be pretty fun. And so there's a rumored third one,
a rumored third live action show that'sgoing to be coming and we don't
know what it is. So Ithought that it would be fun if we
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talked about what we'd like to see, yeah, in that Because when it
was announced that Disney Plus was comingout, like everybody was just like,
well, you know, like howmuch is it going to cost? Because
it's going to have all of Disney'sback catalog, right, and so they
could charge twenty bucks a month.If they wanted to, they could charge
fifteen bucks, like out loud,they might hear you. But instead they're
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going for six ninety nine. Yeah, that's smart. That's such an amazing
price. Now obviously they'll up itas the years go, just like yeah,
and then we'll end up paying thatmuch and then but then it'll be
part of our lives and we won'tbe able to say, no, I
can't pay that because besides the wholeDisney Library. Now that they bought Fox,
they're gonna have every episode of TheSimpsons, they're gonna have. It's
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going to be the exclusive streaming sourcefor like Captain Marvel, Endgame, Star
Wars, Rise of the Skywalk,Rise of the Skywork, Rise of Skywalker,
and Dumbo and my Leficit and everythinglike that. And also like there's
some like three Marvel live action TVshows that are going to be coming out,
like one with Wanda and Vision,one with the with with Falcon and
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Bucky, which some odd pairings.Well they get the actual actors. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, and there's alow key show coming too, I
know, I know. But becauseof End Game, there's they have like
a backdoor of Loki coming back eventhough we died in Infinity War. But
we'll see. Okay, I don'tthink that's due on launched. I think
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that's a couple of years from now. Maybe a year from now, I'm
not quite sure. But you gotall that content, so they're they're bringing
some premium actors, they're bringing somepremium content. And it was way more
exciting than Apple's streaming service announcement.Yeah, yeah, that was a little
and so yeah, okay, solet's get into it. Let's talk.
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Okay, live action TV show.Have you ever thought about a live action
TV show Star Wars TV show before? Oh? I'm sure when I was
twelve, absolutely, What did youwant when you were twelve? Like what
did you imagine like Han and Leiamarried and having Yeah, because those are
like the books that I read asa kid was all about like them having
kids and stuff like that. Solike them going on adventures with their kids.
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That was what I wanted, um, and that's what like the kind
of books that I would read waslike those kind of things. So like
they had twins and they had oneone boy, and the boy was the
one with like the powers, butthe other like the twins were really like
boy girl twins, but they werelike super really like good fighters and stuff
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like that. It was really fun. It was like, you know when
they were super like cheeky with eachother, like hun and Lean. That's
like what I loved. And yeah, like I remember reading those books and
wanting that kind of thing. Butas an adult, I don't want them
to tamper with any characters that alreadyexist. I think. I mean that
pretty clear what I am talking about, Like the Mandalorian, Like, I
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feel like they have just decided toruin some characters in the new version,
like the new yeah, the newmovies, So just just leave them alone.
I think I'd rather see something inthe same universe like the Mandalorian is
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doing, where we don't tamper withanything, but we just are in that
universe and enjoy where we are.I think a lot of people have said
that that Star Wars, especially thesequel trilogy Star Wars, suffers from small
world syndrome, where everything's connected.Everybody who you've seen before comes again,
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and you go into a planet allof a sudden, it's this dude that
you saw a last movie, youknow, Like it's that kind of thing,
right, and so the Mainloran feelslike an exercise and expanding that where
you know, like it's not centeredon a Jedi, it doesn't have so
done with C three pou, itdoesn't have any of that. And actually,
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like, since you said like leavecharacters alone, that makes me think
of the new Star Trek show comingout this year Star Trek Picard, right,
that's what it's going to be tallthough, Yeah, and when it
was announced that they were going todo a show centered around joly Bcard,
my first thought was, you canonly screw it up. Yeah, I
can only screw and that is likea huge fear, right that. Okay,
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you I don't know. I thinkthere's something to it where leave the
imagination to imagine where Picard would go? Right? Yeah? I mean,
but at the same time, peoplelove these characters so much, so why
wouldn't you want to give them more? So I understand it, but it
also really scares me when they decideto do that. So I don't know,
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I know, it's terrifying, Itreally absolutely terrifying. Yeah. As
as I've said many times before,I'm pretty good at compartmentalizing. I'm not
like I'm pretty good at like ifStar Trek Piccard sucks, I'm like,
it's all right because we have hisadventures on the next generation and that's that
goes unchanged, you know, sowe'll we'll see, we'll see. But
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yeah, with the Cassie and Orshow, like sure, you know,
you know, you know, likea prequel to Rogue one, I'm not
like, I'm not jazzed for it, but it could be good. Yeah,
I'm not like disappointed, like,oh, it's gonna suck. I'm
just like, oh, sure,let's see how it is with Mandalorian because
it's their launch show, Like thatis the show that is anchoring in the
network. That is the show thatwe're just like, boom, this is
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what we're promoting, right, thisis uh, this is the show that
it's kind of like there it's likeNetflix and House of Cards, not the
same, not a one to one, because yeah, it was definitely the
show that was that was known forNetflix, like Netflix and House which it's
really interesting. I feel like,uh that they would would go in that
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direction with the Mandalorian because I feellike it's one of those things where like
you kind of have to be astart Wars fan to even know what a
Mandalorian is Yeah, so it's alittle risky, um, but not because
they know their base and they knowthat like you know, like I mean,
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I know that Bofett wasn't a Mandalorian, but like the fact that everyone
like always was interested in Bafet itkind of his fan service that, like
you would even make a show abouta Mandalorian. I think it's that visual
cue. Yes, it's that.It's that visual like, oh, he
looks like Bubba Fet, but he'snot Bubba Fet, right, And even
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your casual Star Wars fan is justlike, who love that armor? You
know, like overrated character? Ohyeah, absolutely, yeah, but you're
you know, it's surprising that theywouldn't use a well known character or like
try to give backstory to a wellknown character. Yeah you think that,
like and that's all that Marvel isannouncing. Yeah, you know, it's
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just like, okay, hey,you know, here's some side characters Falcon,
Bucky and Wanda and Vision Loki.Like it's not like there's the Captain
America Show or the Black Widow Showor the Whole Show or anything like that.
It's all these side characters. Butwe all know who they are,
right, and we have no ideawho the Mandalorian is exactly. So I
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think there's something beautiful about that thatthey can form their own base of fans
based on what they're producing versus thehistory, because I mean, they are
in a somewhat of a box becauseof where the timeline is, and I
think that, you know, hopefully, hopefully they don't do like a whole
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discovery thing where they have to kindof like reckon like technology of like,
well, we can show this kindof cool technology, but then we have
to like explain why it's not thesame way and Force awakens like, well,
that's interesting that you bring that up, because I don't I think that's
an inherent Star Trek problem. Idon't think Star Wars has that issue because
they stay true to their esthetic thatvery much. So Okay, yeah,
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because Star Wars stays true to itsaesthetic. They definitely have in their movies,
like look at Rogue one. Yeah, I mean Rogue one did a
fantastic job of showing you technology andinterfaces and monitors and and everything like that
that we're reminiscent of nineteen seventy seven, but it didn't look out of place.
I think they did a great jobthat way, and with the Mandalorian
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they said that they're going to beusing models for their ships. Yeah,
for their special effects. That's amazing, And like John Fevre said, he's
like, we're going to try todo a new Hope level style of special
effects in production, which is fantastic. Like my knee jerk reaction was,
I was like, well, okay, good for you. That was in
the seventies, that's forty years ago. Yeah, but but nowadays, Yeah,
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we have this technology that you canmake things with green screen and just
you know, kind of phone itin in some ways. Other times,
of course, green screen is superlike impressive, but there's something beautiful about
the tactile, especially in the StarWars universe. I think that that's we
just watched Alien the other nine Yeah, well and yeah exactly. I think
like even as a viewer today,you're in awe of like the set design
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and so you know, creating theworld physically. You really can't duplicate that
A lot of times in yeah CJ. You can't. Yeah, you're right,
you're right, You're absolutely right,And so that is excited. Like
my knee jerk was almost aristocratic andin snobby and then I started realizing,
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No, that's genius. That's agreat idea. I love that idea.
It's basically just again letting the fansknow, don't worry, it's gonna feel
like Star Wars. It's kind oflike when jj Abrams said, we're going
to shoot it on film, right, right, So it's going to shoot
for Awakens on film. It's goingto feel right. But to get back
to it, yeah, it's aninherent Star Trek problem that focuses so much
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in technology. And we've talked aboutthis before, where like in Star Trek
they focus, they give a lotof time on how things work. In
Star Wars, things just work right. And in Star Wars you have really
advanced technology and you have a reallycrappy technology, and it really all depends
on who you are and where youare. Like you look at what the
Empire has, they have the bestof everything. You look at Naboot,
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you know, like everything is reallyclean and fun and cool, and then
you look at Tattooed and everything's tatteredand grammy and so yeah, absolutely,
So you can have super super advancedtechnology or really primitive stuff. Yeah,
in the entire universe. It's verytrue and so Star Wars has its own
cheat because it's so diverse it is. Yeah, yeah, so what are
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what are you looking for in athird show? Oh? Man, the
recently, the only thing I reallycare about is not necessarily messing up the
characters. Or is there like acertain location that you want to be.
Oh, that's a good question.I think the main thing. It's funny
because you talked about how when youwere twelve you would love to have seen
Hanel and their kids and like whatyou were reading. Yeah, but you
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didn't want that. Now, mytwelve year old self is the same as
my current self. Okay, mytwelve year old self loved the Jedi Apprentice
books. Okay, they're they're youngadult novels. You've talked about these so
many times, talked about so manytimes, like super young adult. You
can barely all novel. It's likea it's like it's a kid's book.
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Yeah, it's a kid's chapter book, right, And they're amazing. They're
fun and you could read them today and they're still really great. And
it's about when Obi Wan Kenobi turnsfrom twelve to thirteen and then then he
gets picked by Qua Gunjen to beas apprentice and their adventures, and so
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every book is just one of theiradventures. And I love the Qui gun
Jen and Obi Wan relationship. Andso because you can't get Liam Neeson and
like, because you wouldn't be ableto get live yeah, you'd have to
recast it. Yeah, and soI guess I'm changing my mind. Like
a young kid, a young Tristanwould be like, yeah, let's do
that as a live action TV show. Today, I would probably say,
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let's do a CGI TV show likeClone Wars or Rebels. I like that,
But for live action, I wouldlove to see the Old Old Republic.
Okay, where the like one ofthe best Star Wars video games,
one of the best video games ofall time was Knights of the Old Republic
that took place thousands of years beforethe Skywalker saga. Yeah. Yeah,
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and so it was basically the sametechnology though well, and it was the
same feeling, but it was soseparate from all the events that you didn't
have the Empire, you didn't havethe you didn't have the New Republic,
and it felt different than the prequels. It was its own thing, it
was its own thing. It hadthe same vibe, it was still it
was still Star Wars, but youhad tons of Jedi and you had tons
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of Sith. It wasn't just oha master princess, only two there are,
It was no, you had Sithwho had their own planet and their
own fleet, and they were aforce. So it was like there was
a lot of Jedi, a lotof Sith, and it was like their
own armies. And that's interesting thatyou bring that up because one line that
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was kind of sticking out to metoday when I was we were watching um
Star Wars seventy seven, was thatjust like them constantly kind of belittling Darth
Vader and Obi one for like goingto the old ways, an ancient religion
and like thinking of what did thatlook like, you know, even like
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the spiritualism of you know, beinga believer in the force, Like if
you go back far enough, itwould be interesting to know, like about
the Jedi Temple and you know,stuff like that, Like those type of
things were like being a Jedi wasmore popular than it had become when we
when we encounter it, because evenin the prequel series, I mean the
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prequel movies, you had the JediTemple and you had thousands of Jedi Knights
who are guardians of the peace andjustice. But in the Old Republic you
had even more right And I thinkthat would be really interesting. Maybe it
would be too much for television.I think it would be somebody we're changing
our minds again. Maybe be tooexpensive. I think, yeah, it'd
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be too expensive. Yeah, butI would love to see it. And
to be honest with you, likethe storyline within Knights of the Old Republic
is a great storyline. It's abouta very powerful Sith, a Darth Darth
Reven, who was defeated in battleby some Jedi and they're like, what
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do we do with this guy?Like, we can't kill him, Jedis
don't execute, and so they're like, well, let's wipe his memory.
Let's see if we can mold thisguy into a good Jedi instead of a
bad Sith. And they did,or they're racist memory. But then it's
you're as you're that character, You'relike, who am I? What's going
on here? And so as youprogress in this in the game, that
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every decision you make is either goodor bad, light side or dark side,
and so like do you fall downthe path of the dark side of
in or do you do you goto the light side, and so it's
about you discovering yourself and your powers. And is that too similar to what
the stories we've already seen, likewith with Luke and with like Ray,
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I'm like saying, from like aTV perspective or a story of a Jedi,
are they going to be good?You know? It's kind of it
feels like we've seen that. No, I don't think so. I think
there's always that wonder of like whenyou like when you see Luke and when
you see Ray, like you're like, are they going to be good?
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Are they going to be bad?But we all know that they're going to
be good, right, and theyend up being good. But I think
with this one there's much much moreambiguity, and there's they throw a lot
of situations at your at your characterwhere you're just like there's no good way
out of this, like like doI cripple and tile civilization or do I
help cause genocide? You know,like those types of questions, and you
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have an over art it like it'sa built in episodic storyline where it's just
like you have to find a starmap, like like you have to find
pieces of a map. But again, you're describing a video game. Yes
I am, I'm describing a videogame. But think about it from a
modern television standpoint, that's your seriesarc. Like once you get to the
end of the series or the endof the season or whatever, like,
you can put that map together bygoing to point A to point B to
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point C. Like, yeah,it's a video game, but modern serialized
television is kind of that way.Look at like, look at season two
of Star Trek Discovery, Like that'skind of what that was with the Red
Lights and the Red Angel. Yeah, yeah, I guess, I just
I guess from my projective, likeit feels like, especially with like what
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they're choosing to do right now withlike the Mandalorian and choosing like the Rogue
one storyline of those you know ofthat guy, it just feels like we're
going outside of the force, whichis not necessarily a bad thing. I'm
not saying that they won't have likepeople who are force sensitive or anything like
that, but you know, ofcourse they will because that's what makes Star
Wars right. But at the sametime, it feels like it's not as
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much of like a focus I wasso I felt so like cheated in Rogue
one when Forest Whittaker's character wasn't asyouize everything, and I thought like his
character was going to be really cooland it would have been really nice to
see, you like his storyline moreother than him just kind of like making
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a walk on appearance. But wesee him pop up in Okay, Okay,
so they didn't realize that. Yeah, they show him like that's where
his characters from is from the CloneWARSA and they elaborate a little bit more
in Rebels, not much, Okay, so you do see a little bit.
So you would want to see likea like them recast Force or I
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would Yeah, I guess I wouldn'tcare. Like it just felt very rushed
in Rogue one, so from someonewho hasn't watched those and just it would
be interesting to see that. Butif they've already kind of done that in
another form at then I don't reallycare one thing that I'd like to see
it. Like, you know,I feel a little lazy because you know,
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like it's it's good to come upwith original content, but I keep
coming back to like stuff I've seenbefore that I like in other forms.
But one thing that I've always wantedto see was a Jedi by himself or
herself after the fall, and solike how do they find their way?
Like Obi Wan like yeah, goinginto hibernation type, but somebody younger like
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maybe something like maybe you see anapprentice who didn't finish their their training and
they're like, Okay, I've gotlike half of my training complete and the
Jedi Temple is gone, the Jediare killed. What do I do?
Who am I? Am? Istill a Jedi? Do I need to
find work someplace else? Um?In Star Wars Rebels, Freddie Prince Junior
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voices a Jedi named Canaan and that'swhat happened him, Okay, like he
was an apprentice when the fall happened, and so you see him as kind
of like a Han solo character wherehe's with a group of people who just
um kind of reek havoc on theEmpire and try to make a buck.
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It's kind of like Firefly okay,and uh yeah, it's actually a lot
like Firefly Steal Firefly. I'm justnow realizing that, holy crap, Canan's
like Malcolm Reynolds. Wow, Ifeel so stupid. But yeah, and
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so so I love both yeah andso Keenan is a Jedi who has like
half his training. He has alightsaber, but he doesn't bring it out
because he doesn't want people to knowthat he's that he's a Jedi, right,
um, but he's he's very he'she's interesting. I thought that would
be interesting as like a prequel thing, like show Kenan before he hooks up
with everybody you see right in Rebels, So basically like a live action prequel
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to Rebels, like how did weget the people in Rebels? Right?
Right? I think that would bea lot of fun. That would be
fun. And heck, I meanlike he's he might be a little too
old, I don't think so,but you could get Freddie Prince Junior to
do it. I think he's olderthan us. Yeah, yeah, he's
old, you know. But somaybe it's later in Canaan's life instead of
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early on. But then I don'tknow, you cast somebody else and it's
a young Canaan, right, that'sI think that would be a lot of
fun to see because I love Jediso much. I love lightsabers so much,
and yeah, I want to Iwant to show with a lightsabertally get
it, like I do think that. I am interested though in more of
like the rebellion and how that likeworks, and or like you know whatever,
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the first order, Like I aminterested in seeing something without lightsabers,
but you know that anytimes a StarWars show, it's gonna it's gonna pop
up somewhere somewhere. So would youwant to do something like we're in the
age of the antihero clearly ever sinceYe Bad came out? Right, would
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you want to see something in thatera, like in that kind of side.
Would you want to see like abad guy or like a gray a
person of gray in the Star Warsuniverse? Would you want to follow a
Sith around? Would you want tofollow like there was a lot like the
first live action show I think maybefirst or one of the first was supposed
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to be a show all about EmperorPalpatine. Yeah, I don't have a
reason didn't want that, Like,okay, here's the I feel the exact
same way, But there was somethinglike I don't like it's it was some
ridiculous number. There was something likefifty scripts were written about Palatine, about
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Palpatine and like how he became,the way he became, the way he
is and like everybody who worked onit was the same thing, felt the
same way about you, Like youand I there were just like why would
you we why would we want tosee that? Yeah? And then after
they actually made the show, theymade sea like they wrote season's worth of
the show. Lucas was like,let's do this, Let's get it all
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together now, let's let's coordinate theshow. Let's write the scripts now before
it, and then once we shootit, we can we can film everything
that we could possibly meet need andthen interwoll make it interwoven between season and
season. So basically you write likefive years okay, then produce the show,
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and then everybody who worked on itsaid was just like, yeah,
like Palpatine is an amazing, complexand beautiful character now and really it's going
to be shelved forever. Wow,And I was, but it actually happened
where there was like these scripts fiveyear arc of Palpatine. I might be
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exaggerating the five year aspect of it, okay, but more than one year
was written Okay. Does they actuallyknew where they were going? Yeah?
They, like Lucas brought in awhole writing team and producers to make this
happen. Because Lucas for a longtime wanted a live action TV show,
but they just couldn't make it affordable, okay, because he wanted it to
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look well yeah, yeah, youwanted to be the best quality possible,
like you wanted to still be inyour universe. Like I totally get it.
But it's just it's really interesting.Well now I want to see that
show, right, And that's thething is that, like because like my
Nie Drik was just like yours,like, why on earth what I want
to show about Palpatine? But thenwhen you have people who are so in
love with Star Wars like we are, and who wrote and like put so
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much effort into it and then saidlike, no, he's a beautifully complex
character. Well and I think againthat character we have, we see but
not so much that like it wouldruin knowing more backstory. Like I think
that's one of those unique characters thatlike you could do you already know the
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destination, so and we've already seenhim in like the prequels, and then
you've seen him you know, muchlater when you know you get to the
Return of the Jedi. So it'sone of those things where it feels like
as long as they were true tothe character. It feels like why not,
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Like why wouldn't we want to knowthe arc of like how he got
to the way he is. Sothat's interesting. Yeah I thought so too,
But yeah, it'll never happen.Now, that's interesting. One thing
is with the beauty of streaming isthat you can do whatever you want.
You can make movies, you canmake TV shows, you can make any
series, you can make event showsand everything like that. And one thing
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that I know, I know peopleare going to be completely disagree with me,
but Darth Maul was revived in theClone Wars and Rebels. Okay,
Like we saw a lot of himthe Clone Wars, okay, and they
brought him back, gave him somerobot legs, and a lot of people
thought it was the most ridiculous thingever and it was okay, but it
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was cool at the same time.And so we see him at the end
of Solo, and so he's theleader of Red something saying Red Dawn.
Nope, that's a nope, thatis a Patrick Swayzy movie. Um,
he's we see him at the endof Solo. We see him at the
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end of Solo, and he's likea gangster, like he's the head of
a huge like gangster organization. Andso I would love to see like a
six episode miniseries about the where weleft him at the end of Rebels and
how he became that gangster, becauseI would see I would love to see
like a just like this is nota good guy. He's evil, he's
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damaged, he's traumatized. He hatesthe Sith. He's not a Sith anymore.
He's not Darth Maul. He's Mall. So let me rephrase that,
he's Mall not Darth Maul anymore.He hates the Sith, but he also
hates the Jedi right, and hewants to do evil. He wants to
punished the universe that punished him.And I would love to see a show
that was unabashed just following this guywhere he is the protagonist and the antagonist
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at the same time. Six episodes. But that's all you need, That's
all I need, Just just alittle mini series, like a quick mini
series. Okay, I would loveto see that happen. Okay, is
there any other character that you canthink of that you like, really want
to know more about? R twoD two. I think he's a mystery.
He's an enigma. We have noidea what he's really saying. You're
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such a liar. You don't careat all, not even a little.
Ask your question to go like amystery, just like a character that you're
like, Oh, I wish weknew more about that character or we you
know, but enough to like actuallyhold a series, you know, Yes,
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yeah, maybe it could be abad idea. We'll just say it
and I'll tell you if it's abad idea. Well, I hate this
because I know his name, butbecause you asked me and I thought of
it, I can't remember his namenow. Um is it a Admiral Niette?
Oh? Okay, is it Nyet? I think so? Is it's
(32:15):
the It's the it's the main guy. It's the main It was like Darth's
Darth Vader's right hand man in Empirein Return of the Job. Yeah,
yeah, no show about him.I just wanted to see more of him,
Okay, Like I would love toget a novel about him. I
think we saw enough of him.I don't need a show about him.
I just want to I want toread a novel. But I really like
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that. I really like that actor. I really like that character. Um
No, no, it's not yet. It's Piette Pete. Niett's Russian for
Nope, is it Piette. Yeah, I think it's Piatte Admiral Piatt.
I don't know yet. I'm surepeople were yelling and their iPods. Nobody
has an I pod anymore. Howabout you? Is there any character that
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you wishing you about more? Um? I I really struggle with the idea
of like I think that I'd loveto see. I mean, I know
that recent years we've gotten more femalecharacters as far as like in the Star
Wars universe, is not just PrincessLeah. We've you know, we've got
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um we had Rogue one, andwe have Force Weakens, and you know,
we have a race storyline and everythinglike that. But it would be
nice to I mean, it's beena long time coming, so it wouldn't
be a bad thing to have onewhere at least we have I mean,
I know that we have a femalein the Mandalorian one female's name, only
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one female's name. I'm pretty sureit was only one female's name out of
like eight guys names. Okay,then I could request to have something more
than that. Yeah, yeah,maybe I might be wrong on it.
And I think, like, youknow, since Rebels or Clone Wars have
been so popular, like why nottake one of those female characters and make
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them have a show. Oh yeah, there's like wouldn't that be really popular?
Sabine and Hara from Rebels are greatcharacters, and honestly, like,
if they don't have Sabine make aguest appearance on The Mandalorian, then they're
missing out because Sabane is a Mandalorianand she comes from like pseudo Mandalorian royals,
right, not exactly royalty, butlike but still like, why wouldn't
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you have her? Yeah? Imean like she'd be young, she'd be
young. Yeah, but that's okay, But that's totally okay, And it
would be I don't know how youngwould you we? I thought young.
I think it would work. Andshe's a great Like there's so many times
like we'll see some of her actionfigures out and like target or something like
that. You want to buy them? I want to buy them because I'm
just like, oh, I wantRipley to like her. I want to
(34:51):
like her. Yeah you've said thatto me, and yeah, yeah,
And I just think that like whynot, Like why not give you know
something, I don't know something.It's already established, but we could see
more of honestly, Like we couldhave easily, and I would have loved
it. Like if the Mandalorian wasSabine, like that would have been cool.
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Yeah, Like she's yeah, sheshe her her backstory is so cool.
She's like, she's the daughter ofthe head of a Mandalorian clan,
like her mom is the head ofa Mandalorian clan. And she leaves.
Her brother's name is Tristan Hat andshe leaves, and she goes to the
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Imperial Academy and she, you know, she she does some heinous things and
she regrets that she leaves, likeshe defects. And she's like, I
like, I can't believe I didthese things. I was I was young,
I was naive, I was stupid. I just wanted to get out
of there. And and then sheshe joined the crew with Canan and Harrah
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and everybody else and just started reakinghavoc on the Empire. And she's she
loves art. She um, shespray paints, she tags things, like
whenever they go to a new location, she'll spray some of her arts a
fun idiosyncrasy to dad too, likeyeah, and she decorates her own armor,
and so she's very colorful, she'svery bright, she's sassy, um
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but not in a stereotypical, liketwo dimensional way that they make female character.
Yeah. Yeah, like she's genuinelyshe's like, she has a lot
of depth, she has a lotof care, and she's so we want
to see that show. We wantto see that show. She's just a
great, great character. And thenyou have Hara, who is a tweeleck,
right, but she speaks basic Englishlike whatever they call it in Star
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Wars. They call it basic butwhich is very rare for a tweeleck.
And she's the one of the oneof the best pilots in the Rebellion.
And she's the leader of the group. Yeah Kenan's not the leader, right
she is she is? Yeah?Yeah, so that's interesting. I don't
know, I think that would bepretty cool. And again, like I
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understand that they already have a story, but we haven't I think I'm okay
that because we haven't seen it inlive action, does that make sense?
We haven't seen an actor play thoseroles, well, a physical, physical
actor, So like, why not. I don't think it would bother me
as much there was. It's interestingthat you say that because we didn't see
(37:30):
like a physical actor's portray that.There is an episode in Star Wars Rebels
that is all about Obi Wan KenobiOn Tatuween Older fighting Darth Maul. So
that'd be awesome to see. Andthe thing is is that I'm pissed that
Star Wars Rebels had made that episode. It was a great episode. But
(37:52):
now it's done. Now it's done. The story has been told, right.
I wanted to see that in liveaction. So do you just want
to see Rebels as like a liveaction No? I don't. I don't.
I don't want to see Rebels asa live action Okay, Um,
I think it would work. Ithink it would be cool. I think
they left it on a very coolnote where they had another journey to go
(38:13):
on. Okay, they had anothermission at the end. So could you
see like a second season as alive action instead of doing the first?
I could see a sequel show,okay to it. But I could also
see a prequel show. Okay.There's just so many stories to tell with
Star Wars Rebels. And did Idid? I did? I absolutely love
Rebels. Um. There were partsof Rebels that I really liked. It
(38:34):
was it was kind of hit ormiss and and there was some average things,
but it was always entertaining, okay, and it got better as it
went on. Um. And it'sjust I don't I just there's just there's
so much potential behind it, andI feel like we only got four seasons.
And I feel like if the showwuners knew they were only going to
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get four seasons, that they wouldhave used their time differently. I understand
that, Yeah, And I thinkwith this knowledge and where they left it
off, it would be a veryvery cool, interesting journey. Well even
the fact that you were comparing itto Firefly, Like how many journeys could
you have seen of Firefly? Youknow, I'm saying like Firefly could have
(39:19):
gone on forever if they let it. Yeah, you know, it could
have gone on for a really longtime because of just the nature of what
they had going on. So ifRebels is that similar, then that would
have really worked right as a asa TV show. I kind of want
to make you watch it now,Like I kind of want you to see
these characters and see these stories,Like I know who those characters because I've
(39:39):
seen episodes here and there with you. Yeah, so I know who,
like the female characters are that wewere talking about. But yeah, it
would be interesting. It would bea cool bed time show. I think
we have bedtime shows because I ownthe first season and I kept trying to
see if I could buy the otherseasons for cheap, but it was always
like ninety bucks for the whole show. Now we're going to get them on
the oh November, it's all gonechange. So is there any other specific
(40:05):
things that you'd want to see?Like, is there anything that you don't
want to see besides like screwing upcharacters that we love? Like, is
there anything specifically that you don't wantto see? I don't want to see
an endoor show because we've like withwalks and stuff. Well, like I've
already we've already had those like thoseeighties or yeah, one was garbage,
(40:27):
right, I mean it was likethe one that I remember that was good,
I remember being adorable. But dowe need to do that again?
Probably not, right, So Idon't think I need that. Would you
this sounds stupid even before I evensaid it, Like, would you want
to see like a Wookie show.I'm pretty sure there is a movie out
there unless I dreamed it. Pleaselisteners, tell me what wookie? Is
(40:49):
there a Whookie movie out there thatI saw in high school? You weren't
with me in high school, butthere was a Wookie I'm pretty sure.
Are you thinking of the Holiday Special? No? Like there was a straight
up movie I remember about Wookies.Am I dreaming this? You were dreaming
that? Are you sure? Like? Maybe there was Do I dream in
Wookies? Maybe there was something animated, like a special or something? You
(41:14):
know? You you sure you're notthinking of the Holiday Special? Because like
it was like Chewie met his family. There was a guy named Itchy hit
a weird helmet. No, itwasn't. It wasn't like it wasn't cutesie.
It was like a legit Wooki planet. No, No, I mean
there's cash. You know. I'mjust just dreaming in Wookie just dreaming about
(41:38):
Wokies. Yeah, I guess,so, I guess. So. Um
for me, Like what I wouldn'twant to see is I don't know what
I wouldn't want to see, LikeYoda's backstory, I don't need that.
No, um, No, likea young Yoda, you know years.
(41:59):
Yeah, I seeing him in theprequels, that's enough him like jumping around
the place. I don't know aboutit. I know this is would you
oh, okay, what about recastingpeople we've already seen? How would you
feel about that? Well? Youknow how I feel about Solo. So
no, like I can't deal withthat. Well, I mean that's why
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I asked. I think, Okay, I have less of a problem with
like, for example, when theydid that with Obi Wan, you know,
because we had Alegins who was olderto begin with, So having Ean
McGregor as a young I wasn't reallyI was fine with that, but like
if you were to go back andcast Carrie Fisher, that would just not
(42:43):
be okay with me. Yeah,so yeah, so don't do that,
you know. I think there arecertain things that are like don't touch them.
And that that's why I mean bythese characters is like if you do
recast, there's just a lot ofroom for error unless it's someone who is
(43:04):
just like okay, we don't wedidn't see so much of them that we
care. I this is hard,yeause I want this to happen, but
then I don't want it to happen. Is it a question of quality versus
quantity? Or do you think it'sjust really holding on to what we hold
(43:28):
dear? Like, what do youthink? I feel like we were robbed
of Luke Skywalker after returned to theJedi. I feel like, Okay,
what we got in Force Awakens andthe Less Jedi was a disservice to the
character. Yes, I'm not burningtorches and I'm not you know, like,
I'm not going to spit in anybody'sface about it, But I don't
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think they did justice to the character. And we didn't get to see his
temple. Yeah, we didn't getto see his school, his accademy,
whatever want to call you would havebeen really fun to see. We didn't
see him mentor anybody. We justsaw everything after the fact and then they
killed him. Yeah, and Iwould have honestly, I'd be fine if
they if they recast Luke Skywalker witha different actor and we see him find
(44:15):
his way in a post Jedi Returnof the Jedi world, Like where does
he go? What does he do? You know? Is he does he
become a teacher? Does he wantto become a teacher? Right? Does
he now that he has defeated theSith. Does he feel like he has
no purpose in life? Right?Like He's like, I've brought balance to
the force, So what do Ido now? Well, it's like,
(44:37):
um, it's almost like that syndromeof a soldier from war, right,
like you have reinventing themselves, Likewhat do I what do I do now?
Yeah? So what would he like, you know, is he still
at you know, Harold is ahero or is there mixed feelings about it?
(44:57):
You know, like is he liketrying to you know, continue the
tradition that he was taught by ObiWan or did he kind of just fall
into teaching? Yeah? Yeah?And you know, like some I've seen
online where some people have said thatSebastian stand the guy who plays Bucky,
looks like Mark Hamill, and likethere are certain times when he really does
(45:20):
really and I honestly like I feellike he's the right age for a post
return the Jedi Skywalker. He alreadyhas a contract with the Marvel I know,
like it works, people, screwthis whole Winter Soldier and Falcon show.
Let him do that. Like,honestly, I would love to see
something like that, Okay, orcasting and I don't know, Okay,
I it's scary, but you knowwhat, I think I could get down
(45:45):
with that because I think you areright, like they've already Harry is screwed
up. Yeah, what what worsecould they do? What? Yeah?
What else could happen? Exactly?Yeah? Yeah, but then you'd have
to probably add in like Carrie Fisher'scharacter, and you'd have to like,
you know, you'd have to gowith Leia and Hahn, and you know,
(46:07):
you would see the kids, andI don't know, I think you
could. I think you could ridearound it. I think you could ride
around Harrison Ford and carry Fisher.I really do. I think you could.
It literally is just it's just LukeLuke like he like maybe they even
say like, oh, you know, like Leia messaged me or like Leia
(46:30):
sent um Ben to them, andso like all those conversations happen off screen.
They're referenced, but they all happenoff screen, so you don't have
to worry about it that kind ofthing. I think it's a little risky,
but I am interested to see histhe Jedi training, like of his
school. Yeah, that would beinteresting. I think that would be great.
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we're talking about some Star Wars today. And what did we watch today?
We watch Star Wars, that's right, Hope. Well, actually, well
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it wasn't technically a new Hope whenit came out. No, And we
watch the theatrical editions, which ishard to fund, No, but it
was fun watching theatrical edition, theoriginal edition, the one that came out
in nineteen seventy seven, and soit kind of got us into a nineteen
seventy seven state of mind, aStar Wars state of mind, if you
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will, and coming out this yearlater this year, in twenty nineteen,
I believe November November of twenty nineteen, Disney plus Disney's own streaming service is
coming out. And this news brokeabout a month ago, maybe a little
bit more somewhere in there, andwe didn't we didn't talk about it then,
(01:36):
maybe briefly, but we want totalk about it a little bit more
in depth today, but mainly theStar Wars aspect of it, since Disney
now owns everything, and one bigproperty of that being Star Wars. And
so they're coming out with two liveaction Star Wars shows, which we've never
gotten before, not live action,right, We've gotten cartoons, we've gotten
(01:59):
CGI and of course we've had liveaction movies, but not live action television
format. And so the first oneis called The Mandalorian, starring Pedro Pascal
and executive producer Jon Favreau, andit takes place after a Return of the
Jedi, but before Force awakens.So like, we haven't spent a lot
(02:20):
of time in there, right,right, And that'll be a lot of
fun. Yeah, And Pedro Pascal, the only thing you and I have
seen him in was Triple Frontier onNetflix, and I mean he's a part
of Game of Thrones cast. Yeah, yeah, we don't watch Game of
Thrones and h and yeah, soit'll be interesting to see what he brings
to the table. And I'm justfascinated to see something take place after a
(02:43):
Jedi. Yeah, and I thinkit's smart to do something with like there
is no known character that I knowof, Yeah, at least from the
description that they've described. So itfeels like safe territory because you're not gonna,
I don't know, mess up acharacter that's beloved or something like that.
Like I think that's the smart moveon their behalf, Like Obi One's
(03:04):
a hunter now or something something weird. We're like, no, that's not
the way it should be. Andso that's going to be available upon launch
and on the second year that ofDisney. Plus they're coming out with an
untitled cassiean and Or series. AndCassi Cassie and Andor was the guy in
Rogue one, like the lead guyin Rogue one. Yeah, And so
(03:29):
obviously it's a prequel because everybody diedin Rogue way right spoiler. And Alan
Tutick is coming back for KWOS forK twos, so and so that'll be
interesting. Like we weren't the biggestRogue one fans, I mean, we
really like the third act. Imean who didn't, right, But I
mean we didn't feel super attached tothe characters at all, not really so,
(03:52):
but again, like we don't knowa super Ton or and we're not
super connected to that character. Sothat's probably safe again, right, that
you have a character that you're dealingwith that you just can build on,
and we haven't. We didn't getto see him for very long, no,
and I think there was it wasa character I definitely wanted to know
more about and more about his exploitsbecause obviously we saw his last one,
(04:14):
and being a rebel rogue, youknow, like a rebel spy and be
very interesting. Oh yeah, andhaving a thriller of a of a TV
show should be should be pretty fun. And so there's a rumored third one,
a rumored third live action show that'sgoing to be coming and we don't
know what it is. So Ithought that it would be fun if we
(04:35):
talked about what we'd like to see, yeah, in that Because when it
was announced that Disney Plus was comingout, like everybody was just like,
well, you know, like howmuch is it going to cost? Because
it's going to have all of Disney'sback catalog, right, and so they
could charge twenty bucks a month.If they wanted to, they could charge
fifteen bucks, like out loud,they might hear you. But instead they're
(04:59):
going for six ninety nine. Yeah, that's smart. That's such an amazing
price. Now obviously they'll up itas the years go, just like yeah,
and then we'll end up paying thatmuch and then but then it'll be
part of our lives and we won'tbe able to say, no, I
can't pay that because besides the wholeDisney Library. Now that they bought Fox,
they're gonna have every episode of TheSimpsons, they're gonna have. It's
(05:23):
going to be the exclusive streaming sourcefor like Captain Marvel, Endgame, Star
Wars, Rise of the Skywalk,Rise of the Skywork, Rise of Skywalker,
and Dumbo and my Leficit and everythinglike that. And also like there's
some like three Marvel live action TVshows that are going to be coming out,
like one with Wanda and Vision,one with the with with Falcon and
(05:46):
Bucky, which some odd pairings.Well they get the actual actors. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, and there's alow key show coming too, I
know, I know. But becauseof End Game, there's they have like
a backdoor of Loki coming back eventhough we died in Infinity War. But
we'll see. Okay, I don'tthink that's due on launched. I think
(06:09):
that's a couple of years from now. Maybe a year from now, I'm
not quite sure. But you gotall that content, so they're they're bringing
some premium actors, they're bringing somepremium content. And it was way more
exciting than Apple's streaming service announcement.Yeah, yeah, that was a little
and so yeah, okay, solet's get into it. Let's talk.
(06:30):
Okay, live action TV show.Have you ever thought about a live action
TV show Star Wars TV show before? Oh? I'm sure when I was
twelve, absolutely, What did youwant when you were twelve? Like what
did you imagine like Han and Leiamarried and having Yeah, because those are
like the books that I read asa kid was all about like them having
kids and stuff like that. Solike them going on adventures with their kids.
(06:51):
That was what I wanted, um, and that's what like the kind
of books that I would read waslike those kind of things. So like
they had twins and they had oneone boy, and the boy was the
one with like the powers, butthe other like the twins were really like
boy girl twins, but they werelike super really like good fighters and stuff
(07:11):
like that. It was really fun. It was like, you know when
they were super like cheeky with eachother, like hun and Lean. That's
like what I loved. And yeah, like I remember reading those books and
wanting that kind of thing. Butas an adult, I don't want them
to tamper with any characters that alreadyexist. I think. I mean that
pretty clear what I am talking about, Like the Mandalorian, Like, I
(07:35):
feel like they have just decided toruin some characters in the new version,
like the new yeah, the newmovies, So just just leave them alone.
I think I'd rather see something inthe same universe like the Mandalorian is
(07:55):
doing, where we don't tamper withanything, but we just are in that
universe and enjoy where we are.I think a lot of people have said
that that Star Wars, especially thesequel trilogy Star Wars, suffers from small
world syndrome, where everything's connected.Everybody who you've seen before comes again,
(08:15):
and you go into a planet allof a sudden, it's this dude that
you saw a last movie, youknow, Like it's that kind of thing,
right, and so the Mainloran feelslike an exercise and expanding that where
you know, like it's not centeredon a Jedi, it doesn't have so
done with C three pou, itdoesn't have any of that. And actually,
(08:37):
like, since you said like leavecharacters alone, that makes me think
of the new Star Trek show comingout this year Star Trek Picard, right,
that's what it's going to be tallthough, Yeah, and when it
was announced that they were going todo a show centered around joly Bcard,
my first thought was, you canonly screw it up. Yeah, I
can only screw and that is likea huge fear, right that. Okay,
(08:58):
you I don't know. I thinkthere's something to it where leave the
imagination to imagine where Picard would go? Right? Yeah? I mean,
but at the same time, peoplelove these characters so much, so why
wouldn't you want to give them more? So I understand it, but it
also really scares me when they decideto do that. So I don't know,
(09:22):
I know, it's terrifying, Itreally absolutely terrifying. Yeah. As
as I've said many times before,I'm pretty good at compartmentalizing. I'm not
like I'm pretty good at like ifStar Trek Piccard sucks, I'm like,
it's all right because we have hisadventures on the next generation and that's that
goes unchanged, you know, sowe'll we'll see, we'll see. But
(09:45):
yeah, with the Cassie and Orshow, like sure, you know,
you know, you know, likea prequel to Rogue one, I'm not
like, I'm not jazzed for it, but it could be good. Yeah,
I'm not like disappointed, like,oh, it's gonna suck. I'm
just like, oh, sure,let's see how it is with Mandalorian because
it's their launch show, Like thatis the show that is anchoring in the
network. That is the show thatwe're just like, boom, this is
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what we're promoting, right, thisis uh, this is the show that
it's kind of like there it's likeNetflix and House of Cards, not the
same, not a one to one, because yeah, it was definitely the
show that was that was known forNetflix, like Netflix and House which it's
really interesting. I feel like,uh that they would would go in that
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direction with the Mandalorian because I feellike it's one of those things where like
you kind of have to be astart Wars fan to even know what a
Mandalorian is Yeah, so it's alittle risky, um, but not because
they know their base and they knowthat like you know, like I mean,
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I know that Bofett wasn't a Mandalorian, but like the fact that everyone
like always was interested in Bafet itkind of his fan service that, like
you would even make a show abouta Mandalorian. I think it's that visual
cue. Yes, it's that.It's that visual like, oh, he
looks like Bubba Fet, but he'snot Bubba Fet, right, And even
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your casual Star Wars fan is justlike, who love that armor? You
know, like overrated character? Ohyeah, absolutely, yeah, but you're
you know, it's surprising that theywouldn't use a well known character or like
try to give backstory to a wellknown character. Yeah you think that,
like and that's all that Marvel isannouncing. Yeah, you know, it's
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just like, okay, hey,you know, here's some side characters Falcon,
Bucky and Wanda and Vision Loki.Like it's not like there's the Captain
America Show or the Black Widow Showor the Whole Show or anything like that.
It's all these side characters. Butwe all know who they are,
right, and we have no ideawho the Mandalorian is exactly. So I
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think there's something beautiful about that thatthey can form their own base of fans
based on what they're producing versus thehistory, because I mean, they are
in a somewhat of a box becauseof where the timeline is, and I
think that, you know, hopefully, hopefully they don't do like a whole
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discovery thing where they have to kindof like reckon like technology of like,
well, we can show this kindof cool technology, but then we have
to like explain why it's not thesame way and Force awakens like, well,
that's interesting that you bring that up, because I don't I think that's
an inherent Star Trek problem. Idon't think Star Wars has that issue because
they stay true to their esthetic thatvery much. So Okay, yeah,
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because Star Wars stays true to itsaesthetic. They definitely have in their movies,
like look at Rogue one. Yeah, I mean Rogue one did a
fantastic job of showing you technology andinterfaces and monitors and and everything like that
that we're reminiscent of nineteen seventy seven, but it didn't look out of place.
I think they did a great jobthat way, and with the Mandalorian
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they said that they're going to beusing models for their ships. Yeah,
for their special effects. That's amazing, And like John Fevre said, he's
like, we're going to try todo a new Hope level style of special
effects in production, which is fantastic. Like my knee jerk reaction was,
I was like, well, okay, good for you. That was in
the seventies, that's forty years ago. Yeah, but but nowadays, Yeah,
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we have this technology that you canmake things with green screen and just
you know, kind of phone itin in some ways. Other times,
of course, green screen is superlike impressive, but there's something beautiful about
the tactile, especially in the StarWars universe. I think that that's we
just watched Alien the other nine Yeah, well and yeah exactly. I think
like even as a viewer today,you're in awe of like the set design
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and so you know, creating theworld physically. You really can't duplicate that
A lot of times in yeah CJ. You can't. Yeah, you're right,
you're right, You're absolutely right,And so that is excited. Like
my knee jerk was almost aristocratic andin snobby and then I started realizing,
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No, that's genius. That's agreat idea. I love that idea.
It's basically just again letting the fansknow, don't worry, it's gonna feel
like Star Wars. It's kind oflike when jj Abrams said, we're going
to shoot it on film, right, right, So it's going to shoot
for Awakens on film. It's goingto feel right. But to get back
to it, yeah, it's aninherent Star Trek problem that focuses so much
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in technology. And we've talked aboutthis before, where like in Star Trek
they focus, they give a lotof time on how things work. In
Star Wars, things just work right. And in Star Wars you have really
advanced technology and you have a reallycrappy technology, and it really all depends
on who you are and where youare. Like you look at what the
Empire has, they have the bestof everything. You look at Naboot,
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you know, like everything is reallyclean and fun and cool, and then
you look at Tattooed and everything's tatteredand grammy and so yeah, absolutely,
So you can have super super advancedtechnology or really primitive stuff. Yeah,
in the entire universe. It's verytrue and so Star Wars has its own
cheat because it's so diverse it is. Yeah, yeah, so what are
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what are you looking for in athird show? Oh? Man, the
recently, the only thing I reallycare about is not necessarily messing up the
characters. Or is there like acertain location that you want to be.
Oh, that's a good question.I think the main thing. It's funny
because you talked about how when youwere twelve you would love to have seen
Hanel and their kids and like whatyou were reading. Yeah, but you
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didn't want that. Now, mytwelve year old self is the same as
my current self. Okay, mytwelve year old self loved the Jedi Apprentice
books. Okay, they're they're youngadult novels. You've talked about these so
many times, talked about so manytimes, like super young adult. You
can barely all novel. It's likea it's like it's a kid's book.
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Yeah, it's a kid's chapter book, right, And they're amazing. They're
fun and you could read them today and they're still really great. And
it's about when Obi Wan Kenobi turnsfrom twelve to thirteen and then then he
gets picked by Qua Gunjen to beas apprentice and their adventures, and so
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every book is just one of theiradventures. And I love the Qui gun
Jen and Obi Wan relationship. Andso because you can't get Liam Neeson and
like, because you wouldn't be ableto get live yeah, you'd have to
recast it. Yeah, and soI guess I'm changing my mind. Like
a young kid, a young Tristanwould be like, yeah, let's do
that as a live action TV show. Today, I would probably say,
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let's do a CGI TV show likeClone Wars or Rebels. I like that,
But for live action, I wouldlove to see the Old Old Republic.
Okay, where the like one ofthe best Star Wars video games,
one of the best video games ofall time was Knights of the Old Republic
that took place thousands of years beforethe Skywalker saga. Yeah. Yeah,
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and so it was basically the sametechnology though well, and it was the
same feeling, but it was soseparate from all the events that you didn't
have the Empire, you didn't havethe you didn't have the New Republic,
and it felt different than the prequels. It was its own thing, it
was its own thing. It hadthe same vibe, it was still it
was still Star Wars, but youhad tons of Jedi and you had tons
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of Sith. It wasn't just oha master princess, only two there are,
It was no, you had Sithwho had their own planet and their
own fleet, and they were aforce. So it was like there was
a lot of Jedi, a lotof Sith, and it was like their
own armies. And that's interesting thatyou bring that up because one line that
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was kind of sticking out to metoday when I was we were watching um
Star Wars seventy seven, was thatjust like them constantly kind of belittling Darth
Vader and Obi one for like goingto the old ways, an ancient religion
and like thinking of what did thatlook like, you know, even like
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the spiritualism of you know, beinga believer in the force, Like if
you go back far enough, itwould be interesting to know, like about
the Jedi Temple and you know,stuff like that, Like those type of
things were like being a Jedi wasmore popular than it had become when we
when we encounter it, because evenin the prequel series, I mean the
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prequel movies, you had the JediTemple and you had thousands of Jedi Knights
who are guardians of the peace andjustice. But in the Old Republic you
had even more right And I thinkthat would be really interesting. Maybe it
would be too much for television.I think it would be somebody we're changing
our minds again. Maybe be tooexpensive. I think, yeah, it'd
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be too expensive. Yeah, butI would love to see it. And
to be honest with you, likethe storyline within Knights of the Old Republic
is a great storyline. It's abouta very powerful Sith, a Darth Darth
Reven, who was defeated in battleby some Jedi and they're like, what
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do we do with this guy?Like, we can't kill him, Jedis
don't execute, and so they're like, well, let's wipe his memory.
Let's see if we can mold thisguy into a good Jedi instead of a
bad Sith. And they did,or they're racist memory. But then it's
you're as you're that character, You'relike, who am I? What's going
on here? And so as youprogress in this in the game, that
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every decision you make is either goodor bad, light side or dark side,
and so like do you fall downthe path of the dark side of
in or do you do you goto the light side, and so it's
about you discovering yourself and your powers. And is that too similar to what
the stories we've already seen, likewith with Luke and with like Ray,
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I'm like saying, from like aTV perspective or a story of a Jedi,
are they going to be good?You know? It's kind of it
feels like we've seen that. No, I don't think so. I think
there's always that wonder of like whenyou like when you see Luke and when
you see Ray, like you're like, are they going to be good?
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Are they going to be bad?But we all know that they're going to
be good, right, and theyend up being good. But I think
with this one there's much much moreambiguity, and there's they throw a lot
of situations at your at your characterwhere you're just like there's no good way
out of this, like like doI cripple and tile civilization or do I
help cause genocide? You know,like those types of questions, and you
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have an over art it like it'sa built in episodic storyline where it's just
like you have to find a starmap, like like you have to find
pieces of a map. But again, you're describing a video game. Yes
I am, I'm describing a videogame. But think about it from a
modern television standpoint, that's your seriesarc. Like once you get to the
end of the series or the endof the season or whatever, like,
you can put that map together bygoing to point A to point B to
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point C. Like, yeah,it's a video game, but modern serialized
television is kind of that way.Look at like, look at season two
of Star Trek Discovery, Like that'skind of what that was with the Red
Lights and the Red Angel. Yeah, yeah, I guess, I just
I guess from my projective, likeit feels like, especially with like what
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they're choosing to do right now withlike the Mandalorian and choosing like the Rogue
one storyline of those you know ofthat guy, it just feels like we're
going outside of the force, whichis not necessarily a bad thing. I'm
not saying that they won't have likepeople who are force sensitive or anything like
that, but you know, ofcourse they will because that's what makes Star
Wars right. But at the sametime, it feels like it's not as
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much of like a focus I wasso I felt so like cheated in Rogue
one when Forest Whittaker's character wasn't asyouize everything, and I thought like his
character was going to be really cooland it would have been really nice to
see, you like his storyline moreother than him just kind of like making
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a walk on appearance. But wesee him pop up in Okay, Okay,
so they didn't realize that. Yeah, they show him like that's where
his characters from is from the CloneWARSA and they elaborate a little bit more
in Rebels, not much, Okay, so you do see a little bit.
So you would want to see likea like them recast Force or I
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would Yeah, I guess I wouldn'tcare. Like it just felt very rushed
in Rogue one, so from someonewho hasn't watched those and just it would
be interesting to see that. Butif they've already kind of done that in
another form at then I don't reallycare one thing that I'd like to see
it. Like, you know,I feel a little lazy because you know,
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like it's it's good to come upwith original content, but I keep
coming back to like stuff I've seenbefore that I like in other forms.
But one thing that I've always wantedto see was a Jedi by himself or
herself after the fall, and solike how do they find their way?
Like Obi Wan like yeah, goinginto hibernation type, but somebody younger like
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maybe something like maybe you see anapprentice who didn't finish their their training and
they're like, Okay, I've gotlike half of my training complete and the
Jedi Temple is gone, the Jediare killed. What do I do?
Who am I? Am? Istill a Jedi? Do I need to
find work someplace else? Um?In Star Wars Rebels, Freddie Prince Junior
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voices a Jedi named Canaan and that'swhat happened him, Okay, like he
was an apprentice when the fall happened, and so you see him as kind
of like a Han solo character wherehe's with a group of people who just
um kind of reek havoc on theEmpire and try to make a buck.
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It's kind of like Firefly okay,and uh yeah, it's actually a lot
like Firefly Steal Firefly. I'm justnow realizing that, holy crap, Canan's
like Malcolm Reynolds. Wow, Ifeel so stupid. But yeah, and
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so so I love both yeah andso Keenan is a Jedi who has like
half his training. He has alightsaber, but he doesn't bring it out
because he doesn't want people to knowthat he's that he's a Jedi, right,
um, but he's he's very he'she's interesting. I thought that would
be interesting as like a prequel thing, like show Kenan before he hooks up
with everybody you see right in Rebels, So basically like a live action prequel
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to Rebels, like how did weget the people in Rebels? Right?
Right? I think that would bea lot of fun. That would be
fun. And heck, I meanlike he's he might be a little too
old, I don't think so,but you could get Freddie Prince Junior to
do it. I think he's olderthan us. Yeah, yeah, he's
old, you know. But somaybe it's later in Canaan's life instead of
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early on. But then I don'tknow, you cast somebody else and it's
a young Canaan, right, that'sI think that would be a lot of
fun to see because I love Jediso much. I love lightsabers so much,
and yeah, I want to Iwant to show with a lightsabertally get
it, like I do think that. I am interested though in more of
like the rebellion and how that likeworks, and or like you know whatever,
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the first order, Like I aminterested in seeing something without lightsabers,
but you know that anytimes a StarWars show, it's gonna it's gonna pop
up somewhere somewhere. So would youwant to do something like we're in the
age of the antihero clearly ever sinceYe Bad came out? Right, would
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you want to see something in thatera, like in that kind of side.
Would you want to see like abad guy or like a gray a
person of gray in the Star Warsuniverse? Would you want to follow a
Sith around? Would you want tofollow like there was a lot like the
first live action show I think maybefirst or one of the first was supposed
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to be a show all about EmperorPalpatine. Yeah, I don't have a
reason didn't want that, Like,okay, here's the I feel the exact
same way, But there was somethinglike I don't like it's it was some
ridiculous number. There was something likefifty scripts were written about Palatine, about
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Palpatine and like how he became,the way he became, the way he
is and like everybody who worked onit was the same thing, felt the
same way about you, Like youand I there were just like why would
you we why would we want tosee that? Yeah? And then after
they actually made the show, theymade sea like they wrote season's worth of
the show. Lucas was like,let's do this, Let's get it all
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together now, let's let's coordinate theshow. Let's write the scripts now before
it, and then once we shootit, we can we can film everything
that we could possibly meet need andthen interwoll make it interwoven between season and
season. So basically you write likefive years okay, then produce the show,
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and then everybody who worked on itsaid was just like, yeah,
like Palpatine is an amazing, complexand beautiful character now and really it's going
to be shelved forever. Wow,And I was, but it actually happened
where there was like these scripts fiveyear arc of Palpatine. I might be
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exaggerating the five year aspect of it, okay, but more than one year
was written Okay. Does they actuallyknew where they were going? Yeah?
They, like Lucas brought in awhole writing team and producers to make this
happen. Because Lucas for a longtime wanted a live action TV show,
but they just couldn't make it affordable, okay, because he wanted it to
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look well yeah, yeah, youwanted to be the best quality possible,
like you wanted to still be inyour universe. Like I totally get it.
But it's just it's really interesting.Well now I want to see that
show, right, And that's thething is that, like because like my
Nie Drik was just like yours,like, why on earth what I want
to show about Palpatine? But thenwhen you have people who are so in
love with Star Wars like we are, and who wrote and like put so
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much effort into it and then saidlike, no, he's a beautifully complex
character. Well and I think againthat character we have, we see but
not so much that like it wouldruin knowing more backstory. Like I think
that's one of those unique characters thatlike you could do you already know the
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destination, so and we've already seenhim in like the prequels, and then
you've seen him you know, muchlater when you know you get to the
Return of the Jedi. So it'sone of those things where it feels like
as long as they were true tothe character. It feels like why not,
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Like why wouldn't we want to knowthe arc of like how he got
to the way he is. Sothat's interesting. Yeah I thought so too,
But yeah, it'll never happen.Now, that's interesting. One thing
is with the beauty of streaming isthat you can do whatever you want.
You can make movies, you canmake TV shows, you can make any
series, you can make event showsand everything like that. And one thing
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that I know, I know peopleare going to be completely disagree with me,
but Darth Maul was revived in theClone Wars and Rebels. Okay,
Like we saw a lot of himthe Clone Wars, okay, and they
brought him back, gave him somerobot legs, and a lot of people
thought it was the most ridiculous thingever and it was okay, but it
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was cool at the same time.And so we see him at the end
of Solo, and so he's theleader of Red something saying Red Dawn.
Nope, that's a nope, thatis a Patrick Swayzy movie. Um,
he's we see him at the endof Solo. We see him at the
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end of Solo, and he's likea gangster, like he's the head of
a huge like gangster organization. Andso I would love to see like a
six episode miniseries about the where weleft him at the end of Rebels and
how he became that gangster, becauseI would see I would love to see
like a just like this is nota good guy. He's evil, he's
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damaged, he's traumatized. He hatesthe Sith. He's not a Sith anymore.
He's not Darth Maul. He's Mall. So let me rephrase that,
he's Mall not Darth Maul anymore.He hates the Sith, but he also
hates the Jedi right, and hewants to do evil. He wants to
punished the universe that punished him.And I would love to see a show
that was unabashed just following this guywhere he is the protagonist and the antagonist
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at the same time. Six episodes. But that's all you need, That's
all I need, Just just alittle mini series, like a quick mini
series. Okay, I would loveto see that happen. Okay, is
there any other character that you canthink of that you like, really want
to know more about? R twoD two. I think he's a mystery.
He's an enigma. We have noidea what he's really saying. You're
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such a liar. You don't careat all, not even a little.
Ask your question to go like amystery, just like a character that you're
like, Oh, I wish weknew more about that character or we you
know, but enough to like actuallyhold a series, you know, Yes,
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yeah, maybe it could be abad idea. We'll just say it
and I'll tell you if it's abad idea. Well, I hate this
because I know his name, butbecause you asked me and I thought of
it, I can't remember his namenow. Um is it a Admiral Niette?
Oh? Okay, is it Nyet? I think so? Is it's
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the It's the it's the main guy. It's the main It was like Darth's
Darth Vader's right hand man in Empirein Return of the Job. Yeah,
yeah, no show about him.I just wanted to see more of him,
Okay, Like I would love toget a novel about him. I
think we saw enough of him.I don't need a show about him.
I just want to I want toread a novel. But I really like
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that. I really like that actor. I really like that character. Um
No, no, it's not yet. It's Piette Pete. Niett's Russian for
Nope, is it Piette. Yeah, I think it's Piatte Admiral Piatt.
I don't know yet. I'm surepeople were yelling and their iPods. Nobody
has an I pod anymore. Howabout you? Is there any character that
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you wishing you about more? Um? I I really struggle with the idea
of like I think that I'd loveto see. I mean, I know
that recent years we've gotten more femalecharacters as far as like in the Star
Wars universe, is not just PrincessLeah. We've you know, we've got
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um we had Rogue one, andwe have Force Weakens, and you know,
we have a race storyline and everythinglike that. But it would be
nice to I mean, it's beena long time coming, so it wouldn't
be a bad thing to have onewhere at least we have I mean,
I know that we have a femalein the Mandalorian one female's name, only
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one female's name. I'm pretty sureit was only one female's name out of
like eight guys names. Okay,then I could request to have something more
than that. Yeah, yeah,maybe I might be wrong on it.
And I think, like, youknow, since Rebels or Clone Wars have
been so popular, like why nottake one of those female characters and make
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them have a show. Oh yeah, there's like wouldn't that be really popular?
Sabine and Hara from Rebels are greatcharacters, and honestly, like,
if they don't have Sabine make aguest appearance on The Mandalorian, then they're
missing out because Sabane is a Mandalorianand she comes from like pseudo Mandalorian royals,
right, not exactly royalty, butlike but still like, why wouldn't
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you have her? Yeah? Imean like she'd be young, she'd be
young. Yeah, but that's okay, But that's totally okay, And it
would be I don't know how youngwould you we? I thought young.
I think it would work. Andshe's a great Like there's so many times
like we'll see some of her actionfigures out and like target or something like
that. You want to buy them? I want to buy them because I'm
just like, oh, I wantRipley to like her. I want to
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like her. Yeah you've said thatto me, and yeah, yeah,
And I just think that like whynot, Like why not give you know
something, I don't know something.It's already established, but we could see
more of honestly, Like we couldhave easily, and I would have loved
it. Like if the Mandalorian wasSabine, like that would have been cool.
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Yeah, Like she's yeah, sheshe her her backstory is so cool.
She's like, she's the daughter ofthe head of a Mandalorian clan,
like her mom is the head ofa Mandalorian clan. And she leaves.
Her brother's name is Tristan Hat andshe leaves, and she goes to the
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Imperial Academy and she, you know, she she does some heinous things and
she regrets that she leaves, likeshe defects. And she's like, I
like, I can't believe I didthese things. I was I was young,
I was naive, I was stupid. I just wanted to get out
of there. And and then sheshe joined the crew with Canan and Harrah
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and everybody else and just started reakinghavoc on the Empire. And she's she
loves art. She um, shespray paints, she tags things, like
whenever they go to a new location, she'll spray some of her arts a
fun idiosyncrasy to dad too, likeyeah, and she decorates her own armor,
and so she's very colorful, she'svery bright, she's sassy, um
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but not in a stereotypical, liketwo dimensional way that they make female character.
Yeah. Yeah, like she's genuinelyshe's like, she has a lot
of depth, she has a lotof care, and she's so we want
to see that show. We wantto see that show. She's just a
great, great character. And thenyou have Hara, who is a tweeleck,
right, but she speaks basic Englishlike whatever they call it in Star
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Wars. They call it basic butwhich is very rare for a tweeleck.
And she's the one of the oneof the best pilots in the Rebellion.
And she's the leader of the group. Yeah Kenan's not the leader, right
she is she is? Yeah?Yeah, so that's interesting. I don't
know, I think that would bepretty cool. And again, like I
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understand that they already have a story, but we haven't I think I'm okay
that because we haven't seen it inlive action, does that make sense?
We haven't seen an actor play thoseroles, well, a physical, physical
actor, So like, why not. I don't think it would bother me
as much there was. It's interestingthat you say that because we didn't see
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like a physical actor's portray that.There is an episode in Star Wars Rebels
that is all about Obi Wan KenobiOn Tatuween Older fighting Darth Maul. So
that'd be awesome to see. Andthe thing is is that I'm pissed that
Star Wars Rebels had made that episode. It was a great episode. But
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now it's done. Now it's done. The story has been told, right.
I wanted to see that in liveaction. So do you just want
to see Rebels as like a liveaction No? I don't. I don't.
I don't want to see Rebels asa live action Okay, Um,
I think it would work. Ithink it would be cool. I think
they left it on a very coolnote where they had another journey to go
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on. Okay, they had anothermission at the end. So could you
see like a second season as alive action instead of doing the first?
I could see a sequel show,okay to it. But I could also
see a prequel show. Okay.There's just so many stories to tell with
Star Wars Rebels. And did Idid? I did? I absolutely love
Rebels. Um. There were partsof Rebels that I really liked. It
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was it was kind of hit ormiss and and there was some average things,
but it was always entertaining, okay, and it got better as it
went on. Um. And it'sjust I don't I just there's just there's
so much potential behind it, andI feel like we only got four seasons.
And I feel like if the showwuners knew they were only going to
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get four seasons, that they wouldhave used their time differently. I understand
that, Yeah, And I thinkwith this knowledge and where they left it
off, it would be a veryvery cool, interesting journey. Well even
the fact that you were comparing itto Firefly, Like how many journeys could
you have seen of Firefly? Youknow, I'm saying like Firefly could have
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gone on forever if they let it. Yeah, you know, it could
have gone on for a really longtime because of just the nature of what
they had going on. So ifRebels is that similar, then that would
have really worked right as a asa TV show. I kind of want
to make you watch it now,Like I kind of want you to see
these characters and see these stories,Like I know who those characters because I've
(39:39):
seen episodes here and there with you. Yeah, so I know who,
like the female characters are that wewere talking about. But yeah, it
would be interesting. It would bea cool bed time show. I think
we have bedtime shows because I ownthe first season and I kept trying to
see if I could buy the otherseasons for cheap, but it was always
like ninety bucks for the whole show. Now we're going to get them on
the oh November, it's all gonechange. So is there any other specific
(40:05):
things that you'd want to see?Like, is there anything that you don't
want to see besides like screwing upcharacters that we love? Like, is
there anything specifically that you don't wantto see? I don't want to see
an endoor show because we've like withwalks and stuff. Well, like I've
already we've already had those like thoseeighties or yeah, one was garbage,
(40:27):
right, I mean it was likethe one that I remember that was good,
I remember being adorable. But dowe need to do that again?
Probably not, right, So Idon't think I need that. Would you
this sounds stupid even before I evensaid it, Like, would you want
to see like a Wookie show.I'm pretty sure there is a movie out
there unless I dreamed it. Pleaselisteners, tell me what wookie? Is
(40:49):
there a Whookie movie out there thatI saw in high school? You weren't
with me in high school, butthere was a Wookie I'm pretty sure.
Are you thinking of the Holiday Special? No? Like there was a straight
up movie I remember about Wookies.Am I dreaming this? You were dreaming
that? Are you sure? Like? Maybe there was Do I dream in
Wookies? Maybe there was something animated, like a special or something? You
(41:14):
know? You you sure you're notthinking of the Holiday Special? Because like
it was like Chewie met his family. There was a guy named Itchy hit
a weird helmet. No, itwasn't. It wasn't like it wasn't cutesie.
It was like a legit Wooki planet. No, No, I mean
there's cash. You know. I'mjust just dreaming in Wookie just dreaming about
(41:38):
Wokies. Yeah, I guess,so, I guess. So. Um
for me, Like what I wouldn'twant to see is I don't know what
I wouldn't want to see, LikeYoda's backstory, I don't need that.
No, um, No, likea young Yoda, you know years.
(41:59):
Yeah, I seeing him in theprequels, that's enough him like jumping around
the place. I don't know aboutit. I know this is would you
oh, okay, what about recastingpeople we've already seen? How would you
feel about that? Well? Youknow how I feel about Solo. So
no, like I can't deal withthat. Well, I mean that's why
(42:20):
I asked. I think, Okay, I have less of a problem with
like, for example, when theydid that with Obi Wan, you know,
because we had Alegins who was olderto begin with, So having Ean
McGregor as a young I wasn't reallyI was fine with that, but like
if you were to go back andcast Carrie Fisher, that would just not
(42:43):
be okay with me. Yeah,so yeah, so don't do that,
you know. I think there arecertain things that are like don't touch them.
And that that's why I mean bythese characters is like if you do
recast, there's just a lot ofroom for error unless it's someone who is
(43:04):
just like okay, we don't wedidn't see so much of them that we
care. I this is hard,yeause I want this to happen, but
then I don't want it to happen. Is it a question of quality versus
quantity? Or do you think it'sjust really holding on to what we hold
(43:28):
dear? Like, what do youthink? I feel like we were robbed
of Luke Skywalker after returned to theJedi. I feel like, Okay,
what we got in Force Awakens andthe Less Jedi was a disservice to the
character. Yes, I'm not burningtorches and I'm not you know, like,
I'm not going to spit in anybody'sface about it, But I don't
(43:51):
think they did justice to the character. And we didn't get to see his
temple. Yeah, we didn't getto see his school, his accademy,
whatever want to call you would havebeen really fun to see. We didn't
see him mentor anybody. We justsaw everything after the fact and then they
killed him. Yeah, and Iwould have honestly, I'd be fine if
they if they recast Luke Skywalker witha different actor and we see him find
(44:15):
his way in a post Jedi Returnof the Jedi world, Like where does
he go? What does he do? You know? Is he does he
become a teacher? Does he wantto become a teacher? Right? Does
he now that he has defeated theSith. Does he feel like he has
no purpose in life? Right?Like He's like, I've brought balance to
the force, So what do Ido now? Well, it's like,
(44:37):
um, it's almost like that syndromeof a soldier from war, right,
like you have reinventing themselves, Likewhat do I what do I do now?
Yeah? So what would he like, you know, is he still
at you know, Harold is ahero or is there mixed feelings about it?
(44:57):
You know, like is he liketrying to you know, continue the
tradition that he was taught by ObiWan or did he kind of just fall
into teaching? Yeah? Yeah?And you know, like some I've seen
online where some people have said thatSebastian stand the guy who plays Bucky,
looks like Mark Hamill, and likethere are certain times when he really does
(45:20):
really and I honestly like I feellike he's the right age for a post
return the Jedi Skywalker. He alreadyhas a contract with the Marvel I know,
like it works, people, screwthis whole Winter Soldier and Falcon show.
Let him do that. Like,honestly, I would love to see
something like that, Okay, orcasting and I don't know, Okay,
I it's scary, but you knowwhat, I think I could get down
(45:45):
with that because I think you areright, like they've already Harry is screwed
up. Yeah, what what worsecould they do? What? Yeah?
What else could happen? Exactly?Yeah? Yeah, but then you'd have
to probably add in like Carrie Fisher'scharacter, and you'd have to like,
you know, you'd have to gowith Leia and Hahn, and you know,
(46:07):
you would see the kids, andI don't know, I think you
could. I think you could ridearound it. I think you could ride
around Harrison Ford and carry Fisher.I really do. I think you could.
It literally is just it's just LukeLuke like he like maybe they even
say like, oh, you know, like Leia messaged me or like Leia
(46:30):
sent um Ben to them, andso like all those conversations happen off screen.
They're referenced, but they all happenoff screen, so you don't have
to worry about it that kind ofthing. I think it's a little risky,
but I am interested to see histhe Jedi training, like of his
school. Yeah, that would beinteresting. I think that would be great.
(46:52):
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