Episode 133 - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Once Upon a Tim in Hollywood Review

We are big Tarantino fans here at Nerd Nuptial but that doesn't mean we're fans of everything he's ever done. "Classic" Tarantino is a mainstay in our household. So when we were walking into the theater for this one, we were hoping for a return to form. Thankfully, we got that and a whole lot more.

We start the episode with Fleabag and Stranger Things 3. What did you think of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood?

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to the NERD party. It'sgoing Yes, marry me, I love
you and my liking. I loveyou and I like you. I love
that woman. I love a morethan shots love bloody. Hello. Why,

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I'm Tristan Rodel and I'm the GirlAnd this is Nerd Nuptial, Episode
one hundred and thirty three. Todaywe're gonna be talking about a lot of
things, but our primary topic isOnce upon a Time dot dot dot in
Hollywood, and we got to seeit over the weekend. It's opening weekends.
As of the time of this recording, it's still opening weekend and we

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got to see it on Friday,and uh, we're Tarantino fans for the
most part. Like the we're notearly Tarantino, early Tarantino, Like we're
not obsessive fans. Were like,oh my god, everything that he touches
his gold because there's a lot ofthings that we don't like right of his
but it was. But the stufffor recent yes, but the stuff we

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do like is very very good,and so that's going to be our main
topic today. But we have alot of other things to discuss. For
those of you this is your firsttime listening, we are a married couple
looking at nerdy life, looking throughmarried life through a nerdy lens. I
guess could go either a nerdy lifethrough a married lens. Whatever you want
to say. It's been a longtime since you've gained that introduction, So
it is true, it's been awhile since I've been an introduction because we

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wanted to address that because usually,for how many years we've been doing this,
we either give it to you,give you an episode every week or
no later than I mean like threetimes a month. Like that was what
we tried to do for a verylong time. And even when we had

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Ripley, even when we had alittle girl who's two and a half now
or almost two and a half,we would give you once a week or
at least three times a month.That was our goal. But lately,
I think the biggest thing, andit will just be honest with you guys,
is that she is just not sleepingthe same way. It's as simple
as that. Yeah. Yeah,we used to have a kid that went

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they basically dictate bedtime and Unfortunately,even if we put her to bed at
like seven, she's still up atnine, and that doesn't really lend itself
to us recording because we're still tryingto coax her to go to bed.

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her in a corner and let herdo her own thing, like we are
with her one hund of the daythat she's either awakened, crazy, or
asleep. And so when nine o'clockrolls around, we got stuff to do.
Yeah, we either have to takecare of functioning as a people or

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We we like a lot of youhave messaged me on Twitter or on
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have said like, hey, weknow your lives are crazy, and we
know that you'll give us content whenyou can, and so we really do
appreciate your understanding, and we knowthat not everybody can wait like you're.
You're supposed to give new content everyweek at the same time, same bat

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that's just how it is. Yeah, we're kind of getting used to our
new normal. And I'm sure we'vemaybe said this before, you know,
when Pley has gone through other liketransitions and usually has to do asleep and
as parents, are always sleep deprived. But we do love podcasting. We

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appreciate you guys for being loyal andlistening to us right now. Yes,
because if you are listening to thisepisode, you are most likely a loyal
listener, someone who's been with ussince the beginning. But if you if
you haven't been with us since thebeginning and this is your first episode.
One of our favorite things to dois movie reviews new movie reviews, and
our last episode, which was twentydays ago, was the new release of

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Spider Man Far from Home. Andthankfully this movie is not a franchise film,
it's not a superhero film, it'san original film. And there's nobody
in capes been flying around or anythinglike that. Even though we love that
stuff we do, it's nice toget away from that ch every now and
again. But before we get intothat, we have been able to catch

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up on some TV. Yeah,and one thing, I mean, we're
we were totally behind the times onthis one, Like everybody and their mom
had seen this before us. Andit actually took Lee Hutchinson from If You
from Filibuster and uh an a twentyfour um on the network. You know,
go to the Nerdparty dot com checkout his shows and um he also

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he hosts them with Dallas King,two great guys who just have just just
amazing content they give you. Theyhave great interviews, they have great um
insight and from Filibuster and a twentyfour project, it's just great stuff.
Everybody at work into their shows.It's fantastic. They really do. Like
they travel to location, they goto film festivals. Yeah, it's it's

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just absolutely amazing. And while I'mbragging on them, I want to braggen
everybody else. I mean, thereis there is something for everyone at the
Nerdparty dot Com. There's Star Warscontent, there's Star Trek content. There's
Babylon five content, there's Doctor Whocontent, there's other movie podcasts. They're
really proud of that. There's MissingFrames just came out with a fan Hastick

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episode about Alien and awesome. It'sjust everybody every Yeah, we're giving you
new content every single day of theweek, and you guys really need to
go to the nerd Party dot com. Okay, So the show that I
was talking about was Fleabag, yeah, which is a British show. Yes,
it's Amazon Prime is how we areable to access it. So if

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you have Amazon Prime you can watchit right now if you want to.
Yeah, absolutely, And there's twoseasons available to you right now, and
they're only there's six episodes each season. Each episode is only like twenty twenty
five minutes, right, And wewere like, okay, well, let's
try this show because Lee it's funnybecause like you'll say like, oh,

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so and so recommended this or somethinglike that, and I'll like just ignore
you, and then if Lee saysit, I'll be like, Okay,
let's try it. Like even thoughlike I love Lee to death and we
bring that, we bring this upall the time, and he knows I
love them. But even though wetake his recommendations very seriously, even though
we've been burned the hardest by him, because it's either like a love or

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hate with his recommendations. There's there'sno middle ground. It's just like,
oh my gosh, this is likethe coolest new thing, thank you,
Lee. Or the other other timesit's just like do you hate me?
Do you not like me as afriend? Is that why you subjected me
to this content? You more sothan me? Yum. Yeah. But
something that loyal listeners will know iswhat we love breaking the fourth wall.

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When a character breaks the fourth walland looks at the camera and talks directly
to us, we feel special andwe are stuckers for that. And so
Lee Hutchinson's like, hey, Iknow you love that. Um. So
he said to Tristan, like checkthis show out. It's called flee Bag
called it a bang banger. Yeah, okay, well crack. So we
watched the first season and we wereI was engaged, like even the first

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episode. I was like Okay,I can see where they're going and you
were and I was like okay,because I think I just really love it
when they break the fourth wall thatmuch. That I'm like, all right,
let's keep giving this a shot.And by the end we were like,
all right, yeah, let's goon to the second season. The
second season, we were in lovedevoured it, yes, and we were

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like, this is amazing show.This is so fantastic. I think that
the first season they're definitely like tryingto find themselves a little bit, and
some of the content, for ourtaste, is a little bit like raunchier
then we usually go raunchy in away, like you know, there's a
little bit more. There's more sexthan we usually like in a show.

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And it wasn't even so much themthe sexual situations itself, but it was
very um vulgar in terms of conversationthings that she talked about. And I'm
not saying like you're watching you're notwatching something on cinemax my team for a
lot of people, but for ourtaste, our personal taste, no judge

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went on people who don't bat aneye though, right, But for those
of you who don't know, it'sum written and produced and starring Phoebe waller
Bridge, who is really hot rightnow, like she um like. Fleaback
started as a one woman show,and I think it was a one woman
show. It was either it waseither a one woman's show or a stage

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play. I can't remember, butit was her And so she got the
show made and she got a lotof attention. Um. And she was
the robot, the android in solo. Oh okay, like the snarky mouthed
one okay, um she was.Yeah, I can't remember the name of
the droid and no darn Darren Moser. Um, Yeah, he has a

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he has a really really awesome likeeveryone needs to check him out. He's
a he is a co host onSETI off of three on at the Nerparty
dot com. And he has alegit um suit that is I can't think
of the character's name. Oh,he's gonna hate this. Um. But
yes, I like Star Wars fansknow what I'm talking about. She was

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the voice for that, for thatdroid. And and now now she's either
rewriting or or writing or punching upthe Bond film then the latest Bond film,
Oh by herself. Yeah that's amazing. But like that's the thing,
like I don't know if she's likeI don't know if she's just punching it

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up the pre existing script or ifshe is um or if she is writing
it from scratch, like I'm notquite sure, but she is heavily involved
with the script. Well, Ithink the in Fleabag, what really what
makes this shows her one hundred percent? Like I like the ensemble just fine,

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like it's entertaining, but like it'sher, Like you're watching it for
her. If you don't like her, then you're not gonna like the show
exactly. And that was one thingthat I kind of struggle with at the
beginning because okay, at the top, at the top of the show,
Um, it's not like we werewatching Breaking Bad. And I hate to
call her this, but she waskind of the anti heroo. Yeah,

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like she's not like they don't necessarilyput her in the best light, like
she's she's a yeah, she's notthe best person. She mistreats her boyfriend,
right, she's Um, we're notspoiling anything. We're not spoiling anything.
I would say she's would you sayshe's an alcoholic or was that somebody
else? I don't know, butlike she did a lot of bad things,
like things that were you're just kindof like, oh, I don't

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know if I like you, you'renot really a good person, Like,
do I want to spend time withthis person that an interesting person? Exactly?
That's the thing she is and wasan interesting person, and so that's
what carried you along. And it'sfunny because like I was talking with Lee
about it, and he just keptjust going on and on about how great
the pilot was. And after wewatch the pilot, I was just like,

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I don't know about that one.I didn't really like the pilot.
And I actually talked with some morefriends of American friends of mine and they
all felt the same exact way thatyou and I did. Whether just like
it doesn't really get good until theend of the first season. Oh.
Interesting, So maybe he's an Americanthing. I'm not quite sure. Interesting.
I don't know because the second season, who's the actor they bring on

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in the second season, it's notspelling anything. Love that guy that he
played Moriarty in Sherlock. Yeah,he's fantastic actor, but he is just
he plays a priest. He's afantastic addition to the show in the second
season. And I think, like, if you're gonna add people into the
cast, like that's the type ofperson you need to add in and it

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works so well. Andrew Scott Okay, Andrew Scott. Yeah, he was
in an episode of Black Mirror.Yes, lately, he was in a
Specter for a little bit. Yeah, and we really like him. Yeah,
and he was the main thing thatI know him from is Sherlock.
He plays a really fascinating more.Oh yeah. Yeah. It's so good.

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So if you're interested in doing ashow that's quick, very very little
time commitment, and you know,just you'd like the fourth wall breaking.
You have to like that because andwe're big House of Cards, we are
huge fans, and we actually hatedit when Franks started talking to the camera
less and less. Oh yeah.Yeah. And and Fleabag, which there

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is no character name for her,she's not addressed in the show by her
name. Yeah. So if you'reinterested in it, give it a shot.
It is worth your time. Itis worth your time. And if
you feel like if you if you'reintrigued but you're not really loving it,
stick it through the first season.Yes, and if you're like us,

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then you'll like the second. Andit's getting all the Emmys. Yeah.
Yeah. And the writing is sofantastic. It deserves it, really does.
It's absolutely a combinations. We alsowere able to watch Stranger Things,
and this was at the season threeThis was season three, so this was
a while ago. This was IndependanceDay that it came out, and we

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got to watch it that weekend,and we really wanted the podcast about it,
but we just couldn't happen. Andthen actually we a longtime listener of
the show actually messaged me and said, are you going to talk about Stranger
Things? And the more we thoughtabout it, like the more distance that
we had between us watching it andseason three was it was kind of a

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like we need to have podcast aboutit, right, Yeah, like spoiling
not spoiling, but like spoiling ourfeelings was kind of unremarkable in my opinion.
Yeah, I think it's kind offunny because we got done with season
three and we were like, hey, remember that magic that was season one
of Stranger Things. And I thinkpart of it is that they had something

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really unique and different in Stranger Thingsseason one, and I mean that's true
for every show, right It wassomething new, it was something fun and
nostalgic, and then now like evenseason two and three, it just feels
like we're trying to keep these keepwith these characters, even though I felt
like those characters story kind of endedand so now it just kind of feels

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like the creators are just trying tocome up with more stories from the upside
down to throw at them so thatthey have a show longer. Does it
feel that way to you? It? It definitely feels like the first season
is, by far, in myopinion. I think your opinion too,
the best season. Definitely buy alot by a wide marchin because season two

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there was a lot that we didn'tlike a lot. Basically, the first
half of the season felt like acomplete waste, but once they were like
towards the later half of season two, there were some amazing episodes. Yes,
yes there was fantastic. It was, but they didn't use their time
wisely. No. In season three, I didn't feel like there was any

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sluggish episodes, but it was justunremarkable, unremarkable overall, and it got
a little predictable. It got like, oh, like, I feel like
Eleven has gotten Superman syndrome. Ohyeah, where whenever there's any kind of
danger and Eleven is nearby, it'slike, oh God, this is the
end, and Eleven pops out andthis is her powers, and I think

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that you could argue that with time, she's honing her powers. You could
argue that, you know, butat the same time, it feels like
she's just kind of like the magicbutton that they used to get out of
every situation. So no matter whatit is, and it just it feels
it doesn't feel special anymore. Butto answer your question that I totally didn't

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about about the feeling of season oneand are they just extending things, I
feel like they got lightning in abottle for season one and they're like,
we need to continue this. ButI get which, I get this,
I get I get it, andI think a lot of people would disagree
with what I'm about to say.And I understand that you and I thought
this would have made a great anthologyseries. Oh yeah, like call it

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Stranger Things. I thought, that'sthis very sertast season. I was like,
call it Stranger Things and then havea different like monster every or just
season keep it with the upside down, but change out the cast, maybe
change all the time period. Right. But here's the thing is that cast
has become so famous and like,and that's why I think a lot of
people disagree with me, right,is that like, oh, well,
the show is the show? Isthat cast? I don't know, or

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make it something like American Horror Storyand change it up a little bit,
because right now I just feel likemaybe it's because they're getting older too,
right, They're like not the cutekids anymore. But it just doesn't feel
as special. It feels a littlebit more like all right, let's see
what happens this week. Yeah,it's just I feel like it would have

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made a great limited events series.I think it would have been a great
mini series like this is a oneoff, like if they weren't going to
do the anthology route, like thisis the story. And I think we
even said after our review of seasonone like as soon as Will coughed up
the slug at the end, I'mlike, oh, we're gonna get a
season two. Yeah, like it'sgonna be gon. We're gonna keep seeing
these yeast And I know people willprobably think I'm crazy, but I'm okay

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with ditching this cast at this point. Yeah. And um, you know,
like you don't know what season fouris going to look like because of
how it ended. We're not goingto spoil anything for anybody. M but
it does end in a unique waywhere you're just like, oh, where
we're gonna go, Yeah, wherewe're gonna go from here? If you
wanted to, you could close achapter. But that was the same situation

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with season one or two, right, Yeah, Like technically you could have
a cliffhanger or whatever. But we'llsee, we'll see. And so that's
the thing is that, like wedon't really want to get into specifics because
we don't want to spoil anything,and also at the same time, we
weren't jazzed about it, and sowe don't want to fill a whole episode
of it. Yeah, but wewere jazzed to go see Once upon a

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Time in Hollywood. Yes, yes, yes, it kind of happened sporadically
like that. We were like,oh, we can go, we can
go through it. Yeah, soum, which doesn't always happen. We
usually have to plan pretty far invi ends having ripley when we go to
the theater. But we went tolike, what was it, like a

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ten am we had We had togo to a ten am one because our
your parents, my in laws areamazing people and they live nearby and we
have so much support. We havesuch a great support system here and we
were with him, we were havingdinner and I get a message from Schendler,
Mike Schendler, who hosts a retrospectiveat the Nerdparty dot com. He

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um texts the group in our inour private Slack channel that we have for
the network, and he said,he's like, Once upon a Time is
amazing. Go see it. AndI texted him because you and I when
we first saw the trailer were like, this is exciting, Like this has
so many great people we like,with a director that we like, and

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it's just like this just the feelingof it feels right, the nostalgia,
just everything about it just feels perfect. But it had Sharon Tate in it.
Yeah, and we all know forthose of you, I guess those
who we don't know, like it'sSharon Tate is an actress who is brutally

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murdered by the Charlie Manson's family,right, and she was pregnant and very
pregnant. Yeah, she was likeeight and a half months pregnant. And
listeners will know that we just can'tdo that type of storyline and nor do
we want to, nor do wewant to. Him Tarantino is a very
violent director he is, and youknow, going into any of his films
that you're going to see extreme violence, like too far violence, like you

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know that going in and um,so I told you. I was like,
you might have to go see itby yourself because I can't and I
didn't want to see it without you, right, And so I was like,
let's just wait for it to rentso that way we can fast forward
anything that we need to. Tarantinois important to us in our relationship because
that's something that we bought it overwhen we were dating, because I was

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a Tarantino fan before I met youand you were too, And we've brought
this, We've marathoned it together somany times dating. Yes, while we're
dating, like I think you know, Tarantino was one of those directors that
really got me in high school andmade me really love film. Like when
I was watching like kill Bill cameout like when we were in high school,

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and it was just like I waslike, I have never seen anything
like this. This is amazing.I was like such a film nerd at
that time doing like like watching Iwas like, no, guys, you
don't understand this is amazing. Andwhereas everyone else was like, you know,
just hanging out and watching it andI was like, no, we
have to watch this movie. Wehave to watch we have to watch it.
And um, so we bonded overtalking about like pull fiction and we

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even danced the Mia Wallace dance andSantra Relto dance. Yeah. Yeah,
so it's important to us for sure. And um we haven't seen a Tarantino
film in the theater in the theatersince death Proof and we were so excited

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to go see that together in collegeI think it was. And we were
burned so much and like we were. I was just like, oh,
this is terrible death So I waslike, what is this? This is
not the classic Tarantino that I knowand love. And uh so we skipped

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like, um, we skipped severalseeing them in theater. We we scripped
all of them. We spied allof them. And then like, I
didn't like Inglorious Bastards. No,um django. I tried to convince myself
that I liked it, but honestly, it's just okay, it's okay,
I don't like it. And HatefulEight I haven't seen right because the content

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I've been I've I've made myself awareof the content inside, and I'm just
like, I don't want to putthat stuff in my brain right, And
maybe I'm wrong. I'm sure there'sa lot of people out there who are
saying and screaming, like how canyou call yourself a Tarantino family if I
haven't seen his latest, you know, once upon a Time. But I
mean, maybe maybe I'll give ita shot. Maybe I'll watch. Like
Schindler was was one of those peoplewho's just like, dude, really,

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yeah, like what are you doing? Um? But give me reservoir dogs,
give me pull fiction. Like Ijust feel like he messes it up
until until once upon times time,because like what Schindler did was that he
like he messes just and I'm notspoiling anything for you guys, but like
it's he said that. He's likehe's like, don't worry, it's handled

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well. And I'm like, okay, hey, He's like, do you
want me to spoil it for you? I go, no, don't spoil
anything. Where he's like he's like, he's like, you and the girl
can absolutely handle this. That's whathe said. The girl can absolutely handle
this, and he knows intimately,like what we went through right with with
Ripley and everything else and our sensitivityto pregnant women in film right, and

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anything involving pregnancy and film, buteverything right. Um, And so we're
like, okay, let's go,let's go do this. And so basically,
since Schindler gave us the green light, we decided to go see the
film. Um, I do wantto get into spoilery rytory, we will,
we will. We'll let you guysknow. And clearly you can understand

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that we liked the film based onhow we're talking. So what were you
expecting first going into the film.Going into the film, I was hoping,
not expecting, but hoping for classicTarantino because that's the feeling that I
got. There is a huge divergence. Oh yeah, from like from Kill

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Bill Vollium two and before is whatI'd call classic Tarantino too, and then
inglorious Bass and then and then youhave m death Proof and later is what
I'd call new age Tarantino. Right. We don't like new age Tarantino,
no, And so when we wentto go, when we saw the trailer,
I was like, this feels Ifeel like I'm in high school right

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right, I feel I like Iwent to a midnight showing of kill Bill
Volume two. Nice, and becauseit was that we saw the night that
we graduated high school beautiful. Agroup of us went together, Like what
we did was like that day wegot out of school early. We marathon,
We watched Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction, m Jackie Brown, Yeah,

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Jackie Brown, and then volume one, and then we went to the midnight
showing of kill Bill volume two.That sounds like so much fun. It
was so much fun. It wasour core group us and we all loved
film, you know, we likewe were all we were the creative nerdy
kids, yeah, you know,in high school. And so I love
that era. Like that day wasjust filled with classic Tarantino and it like

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seeing the trailer for Once upon aTime, it just brought back that wave
of nostalgia of what he used tobe, Like yeah, and so that's
what I was hoping for. Iwanted to get that feeling of it.
And what were you expecting or hoping? I think that I was scared because

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I felt so burned by death Proofon type of Tarantino films, and it
just didn't feel like it doesn't feellike him, like some of those films
don't feel the way I felt likeyou were talking about in high school,
where you're like mesmerized by the script, right, and just like the dialogues
fantastic and the acting is just soso Tarantino, there's a there's not really

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you know what I'm talking about,Like it's just like that honest dialogue and
the the the person the personas inthere are so rich and like well developed,
and you're just like, I knowwho that person is. And it
just feels like all the actors arehaving fun, Like even if they're in
a super drum magazine, it's justfun. It's like a usually they're fun,

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even if they're dealing with like verylike dark content. It's a fun
feeling. But looking at all thestars that were in this one, I
was like, there's a chance,like Prabe Pitt and Leo DiCaprio and Margot
Robbie, like there's a chance maybeit'll be good. And it did feel
classic, But I was like,but does it just feel classic or is

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it classic Tarantino? So I wasmaybe more guarded, but I had hope
that it would be good. Andyou know, leaving leaving the theater,
what were you thinking at could rankup there with my favorite Tarantino, and

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what is your favorite Tarantino. Well, that's a hard question because I really
want to see this one again.Um, I think like not including this
one, not including this one.I probably pulp fiction just because it's it's
so class like it's pulp fiction.It freaking won the pulm. You can't
get any better than that. Yeah, um, but nostalgia wise and probably

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just like fun to watch, itwould be killed bill um and I combine
them one in two so you canbind them. Yeah, I see them
as two separate movies. We do. Tarantino sees them as one. I
see them as one. Like that'swhy I love all of it. When
people like he's calling Once upon aTime his ninth movie, people are like,
no, it's your tenth movie.He's like, no, mean,
yeah, it's high viewing. It'sit's one story, so that's high view

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it. What about you? Iknow, I'm the same one. I'm
like pulp fiction okay, is like, not including Once upon a Time?
Pulp Fiction is my favorite. Okay, then volume two? Okay, So
because like I see, I seea distinct like there it's one story.
You're right, but I see adistinct difference between Volume one and Volume two.
Well yeah, there they feel different, but there's still still one story.

(29:17):
But I like I would rewatch Volumetwo more than I I really would.
Okay, that's just me. I'mnot saying that's the way to go
for everybody. So walking out,walking out, how did you feel?
You and I normally wait to talkabout how we feel about the movie until
we podcast yes, and we couldn'twait no, And oftentimes when we can't

(29:42):
wait, that means we love it. And we right when we got in
the car, like I turned thekey and I just looked at you and
I was like, that was freakingfantastic, and You're like, I know,
we just started gushing about the movie. Yeah, Like walking out of
the theater, I like, thatis the most enjoyable movie I've seen and

(30:04):
years. Yeah, yeah, literallyyears. And I'm not just talking about
in the theater, I'm just talkingabout movie wise. I think I was
like grinning the whole time because itwas just it gave me nostalgia of why
I loved Tarantino back in the day. It was the story was fantastic,

(30:26):
and I just and all the actingwas I mean what you would expect from
that cast, and the trailer wasaccurate. Yes it was, And isn't
that rarely happens, I feel likenowadays or you just immediately know it's like
terrible because they've like shown you toomuch information. Yeah, they didn't pull

(30:48):
a rogue one. No. No, yeah, I mean I cannot say
enough good. I even said toyou, like this only happens a few
times where I'm like, you needto pre order that that very written.
I think the only other time thatyou told me about it was like Spider
Verse or something like oh yeah,and that was actually no, you didn't
even tell me that I wanted todo that for you. Oh okay,
yeah, no, this is yeah, but yeah, this is something that

(31:11):
we're going to own and watch multipletimes. Oh yeah. Like I've gotten
to the point where I don't feelthey need to own everything we like,
because like, if we just needto watch it one other time or two
other times, you could just rentit and it's still cheaper than buying it.
Exactly. I've gotten to that point. I feel like an old man
saying that. But you've changed.I have changed. But yeah, like

(31:32):
the trailer totally didn't lie to us. The acting was fantastic, The camera
work was phenomenal, and it wasn'tshowy because there's certain times like there was
a lot of driving and death Proofobviously, and it felt like very showy
camera work where it's like look atme, look at me. And with
this one there was a lot ofdriving too, and but it felt complimentary
to the story, it felt complimentaryto the character. And it's just we

(31:56):
keep talking about classic Tarantino. Thismovie very much feels like classic Tarantino,
but it feels like a much moremature filmmaker. It does. And to
see that kind of growth while atthe same time going back to his roots,
it's a weird dichotomy. Yeah,but it's a very welcome one.

(32:19):
Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely, Likewhatever he's doing right now, keep doing
it, keep doing it. Yeah. And he says he's only going to
do one more film, Yeah,just total. And I hate that,
Like if you yeah, and likelike it was if you asked me six
months ago, oh like a youknow, like after once upon a time
he's only going to make one more, I would be like, yeah,

(32:39):
okay, you know whatever. Ihaven't liked his last four, right,
but after this one, no,no, no, If this is what
you're doing, then keep doing it. If this is what you're doing,
keep doing it right. And sidenote his last film. There is a
large chance his last film could bea Star Trek film. That's so weird.
It's so weird, Tarto Star Trekfilm. Yeah, he described as

(33:02):
pulp fiction space. But alternate realityare we living in where Tarantino makes a
Star Trek film? This is weird. Well, apparently the Kelvin verse is
where we're living because that's yeah,Okay. Actually, he was in a
podcast interview last week and somebody actuallygot him to talk about the Star Trek
film and he hasn't had a chanceto go over the script yet because somebody

(33:28):
else wrote it, and so he'sgoing to go over it and basically like
Tarantino does it. Yeah, he'sgoing to Tarantino is is it? Because
he's he's the he's the writer anddirector on his films and so he for
himself needs to be heavily involved inthe scripture process. Um. And so
he said he's like, if Iif I get my hands on it,
it's going to be our. IfI direct it, it's going to be

(33:50):
our. Which I don't like,I don't want a Star Trek, an
R rated Star Trek film, ButI'm also old enough and mature enough to
realize that not everything has to befor me. Not everything in a franchise
has to be just for me.True, But but isn't isn't Star Trek
is supposed to be for like everyone? That would be my argument, okay,

(34:12):
Um, but I feel like franchisesneed to try different things or they're
going to die in Star Trek movies. I think TV's doing fine right now,
okay, but Star Trek movies,if they don't try something different,
they're gonna die. They're gonna die. They're gonna die. And I'm not
saying that has to be Tarantino,right, but I applaud them for trying
something different now. Um, ayear ago, like we found out that

(34:36):
this might happen, and I andI got into arguments with people. I
was like, it's never gonna happen, never gonna happen, Not the Tarantino
part, but the R rating.Okay, I was like, really,
an ar rated Star Trek film,like Star Trek Beyond was a PG thirteen
film, and PG thirteen films umon average make way more than our rated
films, and this is already adying movie franchise. You're really going to

(34:57):
slap an R rating on a dyingmovie Franchi sense? And everyone keeps going
back, but Deadpool, did Pool? Shut up? Star Trek isn't dead
Pool, Starck isn't dead enough?Um, but yeah, regardless, it
would be really interesting if Taranty likeit's funny because like as soon as I
left the theater of Once upon aTime, I was like, bring on
the start the Tarantino, start workfilm. Okay, That's how jazz I

(35:21):
was. And then like I calmeddown an hour later, I'm like,
nice, don't I don't know.I don't know, but they're not calling
me up and asking I'm asking you, well, we obviously both liked it.
Um, should we get into somespoiler territory? Know if we need
to spoil stuff just yet? Imean, like what we're what we're I
mean, I guess if you wantto, I mean we can say like,

(35:43):
um, obviously we we recommend yougo see it. Yes, Like
I'm telling everybody, yes, ifyou are interested in this film, go
see it in the theater. Yes, I agree, it is worth the
ticket. It's long. It's twohours and forty five minutes. It is.
It is a lot, but itdid not feel it didn't slag on
ye. I was interested the entiretime. In fact, like I had

(36:07):
to pee once and I was likereally upset that I had to go pee
once again. You chose am terribleat choosing moments to pee. It's just
horrible. You are so good atit. Usually I'm just like, okay,
they were still talking in the diner, it's cool whatever, And me,
like, people get married, peopledie. I like the whole plot

(36:30):
has changed, costumes have changed,like, locations have changed, and I
think I'm doing the right the rightmove, and it just it doesn't work.
It doesn't work. It's a it'sa knack that I have. It's
on my resume. Okay, butyeah, okay, so we can we
can go ahead and get in spoilerterritory so we can really talk about it.
So if you have not seen ityet, go see it and then

(36:50):
listen to the rest of this podcast. But we're already at the thirty six
minute mark, so we gave youthirty six minutes worth of content if you
haven't seen it again, but ifyou have, you can see you can
can tinue to listen. So spoiler, spoiler, spoiler, you have been
warned, so obviously the big spoiler, pretty much the only thing that you
could really spoil is that it's analternate reality. It's a story, right

(37:15):
that DIDs a story Once upon atime, once upon a time dot dot
dot in Hollywood. That's why wedidn't get the title Chord until the end
of the movie, because it reinforcedthe idea of once upon a time.
Right, this is a story.This is not how it happened exactly.
Sharon Tate, like Sharon Tate surviveslike she was never accosted, she was
never attacked, she never died,right, and life's gonna turn out differently,

(37:37):
right exactly. And um, itjust was interesting because you knew that
the stories were going to converge somewhere, and you knew it was probably going
to happen at the end, youknow, But I don't know what point
did you realize it was like analternate reality. Well, okay, here's

(37:57):
the thing I feel like about halfthrough the movie, or just a story,
not necessarily alter reality, but justa story, righting. I know
in superheroes and science fiction that we'relike the story you story no. With
About halfway through the movie, Ithought this might not end the same way

(38:17):
because we want to see brad Pittkick ass, and the only way that
we're going to see him kick assor like you know, like a take
on the Manson family is if thingshappened that didn't happen in history. I'm
like, oh, okay, butthe thing is like Schindler telling me that
we don't see any violence towards Tate. That kind of helped me through we

(38:43):
asked for it, which we askedfor. It was totally not his fault.
He didn't spoil a single thing forus. We asked for him to
tell us that detail. Yes,and just the sheer action of him saying,
you don't see any violence towards Tate. We got to go see a
really awesome movie. Yeah, andlike, but the thing is like him
saying that made me think the entiremovie, okay, why don't we see

(39:04):
it right right? Which only natural? Only natural? And so because I
kept thinking that in the way thingswere going, and once we got to
know Cliff a little bit more bradPitt's character, I was like, Okay,
maybe maybe we're not going to seeit like maybe he's gonna pull like
an inglorious bastard's they kill Hitler rightright, right, you know exactly,
And I'm like, Okay, sohe's done this before, right, this
is nothing new for Tarantino, right, And that's that's when I figured it

(39:29):
out. Now, So was thatkind of the same story as you?
Yeah, I mean, I don'tknow necessarily what the moment was. It
might have been later in the filmfor me, but I was like,
there's no way this is going toend the same way. And maybe it's
because I was like I felt likeI was able to go see it because

(39:50):
we had talked and like, okay, so either things are going to stop
right before, right, And thatwas something that I did have in my
head. I was like, okay, it maybe this, but I think
I mean, probably the point whereI was really reinforced home was when like
Leodocaprio was like yelling at them intheir car. I was like, Okay,
things are going to be different.Cool, um, But I wasn't

(40:12):
sure. I was like, okay, did we just kind of like dat
Like you know, they do die, but we don't see it or we
see the aftermath, you know,which I didn't want to see either.
So I think that there was apart of that where I was like,
oh, I just hope we don'tsee anything. Um, so maybe just
for me it was later, itwas later. Yeah, I don't,
I think. I mean, ifSchindler didn't tell us that, I probably

(40:36):
I don't know if I would havecome to that conclusion before we saw it.
And there's no way that I canthink about it now. There's no
way right that I can separate thetwo events, right, um, And
that I'm fine with it. Ohyeah, I don't think anything was ruined
whatsoever, even if even if heflat out spoiled it. For me,
no, nothing was like that's howgood it was. Oh yeah, absolutely,

(41:00):
Um. I mean from from themoment go, like when we started,
you know, started watching the film. Just the dynamic of something that's
always interesting to me is when twostrong actors can play so well in each
other and you are one hundred percentwith both of them, like Leo DiCaprio

(41:22):
and Brad Pitt are such powerhouses oftalent, but I totally one hundred percent
believed that they were like what wasthe phrase that they love? Like Kurt
Russell, a narrated he had twosections of narration, and he said,
he's like, he's like, well, you know when you're um, when

(41:43):
you're more than brothers but little lessthan wives, or like like when you're
when your best friend is more thana brother but a little less than a
wife, getting drunk is kind ofthe best way to go out or something
something right right, And it wasjust you know, like I one hundred
percent loved their relationship, and youknow, was it somewhat one sided,
yes, and yet you just werelike they cared about each other. So

(42:07):
even when like Cliff had to doall the grunt work for um Rick,
it was okay because they both weregetting something out of it. So even
the samli at the top of thefilm did where like like Rick, I'm
sorry, like uh like uh LikeRick was talking with Cliff about like getting

(42:30):
him stunt worker, and Cliffs like, listen, I have him and your
stunt men for years. I'm yourdriver. He's like, don't get me
wrong, He's like it you know, it pays well, um I get
to house sit in a in ain the hills for you, like like
you know, like you's talked aboutthe hours and like so and he was
genuine You could tell he was genuinelyappreciative yea of the work that he was
getting. Yeah, And so rightoff the bat, you're just like,

(42:51):
Okay, he's not taking advantage ofabout taking care of him, right.
And yet at the same time,like you know, there were moments where
there was a moment where like Rickgot Cliff the job and like put himself
out there and was like, no, you're doing this. He's going to
be my st up man. Andso you could see like he was rooting
for him, but also like youknow, Cliff was like helping his um

(43:15):
his self esteem, helping self esteemby like time you got this, you
know, you got this, youknow, and so it just it was
such a great relationship to watch.It was just so fantastic. And what's
really weird and really too bad isthat we didn't get them that much of
them both on screen together, That'strue, And like we got a lot

(43:38):
of them one like one or theother. We got a lot of Leo,
we got a lot of Brad,but not enough in my opinion,
together, like I would have enjoyeda little bit more. They were,
Yes, they were. They werevery executed moments too, Like you definitely
got there the impression of their relationship, and it was well established. So

(44:00):
I was okay with it, LikeI could I have had more, Yes,
but I was good with the amount. What did you think about the
amount of Margot Robbie. I atfirst thought it was odd how much we
were getting of her or well,so I was a little confused at first,

(44:22):
until it's kind of one of thosefilms where like you have to watch
the whole story to really understand whathe was doing. So it was clearly
like how these neighbors interacted, basically, how how this story interacted with Sharon
Tates characters. You had to showSharon Tates a little bit of her life

(44:46):
and established her life a little bitto understand why would care that she didn't
die and they didn't get to herhouse. But I was surprised that we
didn't see her a little bit moreof her, and yet I was kind
of okay with how much we didsee of her. I was fine with
it. I was fine. Ithink it was a perfect amount, but

(45:06):
I was surprised that it was solittle, just because she was so heavily
featured in the trailers and everything.But I think the thing that I was
kind of relieved about like throughout thefilm was like, Okay, this is
not like a biopic, right right, So I was happy about that.
I was like, all right,so we're not just like, you know,
seeing the woes of Sharon Tate orlike the struggles of her. No,

(45:28):
like, this is a story andit primarily focuses on Rick, Dalton
and Cliff, and I want toread something. I was talking with John
Mills, who is a co hoston Aggressive Negotiations and Retrospective, which everybody
should check out and a little lessthan a Wife. He uh, He

(45:50):
says like, like we were alltalking about, you know, about Margot
Robbie and about how little she wasin it. And he says, I
took Robbie's role like Hitler, likeHitler's and Gloria's Bastard's the story the historical
red herring. The story was aboutRick and Cliff, and she was a
historical anchor. That plays against theaudience's expectation. I think the fact that
she's a name, as in MargotRobbie, came with too much of an

(46:14):
expectation that she was a main character. Yeah, I agree, Like I
think that for the story that wastold, which I liked the story that
was told. I felt like shewas in an appropriate amount of time because
it was about It was about Rickand Cliff and how their story intertwined exactly
with hers or prevented her death.Not about her, but about how it

(46:37):
prevented her death, right because wedidn't need to you know, know,
you know, we got to seea little bit of her, like you
know, checking out her own movieand stuff like that, and you know,
you you Basically what to Quarantine wasdoing is like he's giving you enough
of emotional connection to care, butnot so much that we have to know
like the insecurities of Sharon Tate,like we know the insecure purities of Rick

(47:00):
Dalton. Like we're talking, we'refocusing on Rick's character, not on Sharantate.
I liked Cliff a whole lot morethan I liked Rick. Well you
don't don't, I mean an aren'tyou supposed to? He's like the easy
going one, right, I justI felt like his storyline was more interesting

(47:21):
to me. Oh okay, Iuh. There was a lot of times
when we were with Rick, umI was kind of like, Okay,
this is a long scene. Let'slook get back to Brad Pitt. Let's
get back to Brad Pitt. Put. Of course, I'm always that way
when I watch a movie. Let'sget back to Brad Pitt. Whatever?
Who who is this person? See? I think, like I think it

(47:42):
would be boring without Rick's character.Oh no, okay, so you're just
saying you just liked his storyline.Well, I liked rick storyline, and
I liked Rick himself. I thoughtit was very interesting to see how insecure
he actually is right and how he'sable to overcome it. I love that,
Like I I love it when wesee the inner depths of a character

(48:05):
and they are failing and failing andyou want nothing but them to succeed,
and then they do. I hatethat whole subverting expectations right where like you
see someone you know come up toit and they they fall short, and
it's just like, oh, that'sreal life. We'll screw you. I'm
not here your life obviously. SoI really appreciated that. So I like
his character, I like his storyline, and I love the two of them

(48:27):
together. But there were times whenI felt like his scene kind of lingers
a little too. Well. Yeah, but I think they also gave like
Cliff more interesting, interesting things todo, right, like you know,
fighting Bruce Lee and going to Mansoncomplaint. It was way more interesting than
you know, Leodocaprio just onset right, Yeah, it just it just is
it's more interesting. So I thinkit. I think that you kind of

(48:52):
it's hard to say, like,yes, did I enjoy him more as
a character, Absolutely, But reallywhat I enjoyed was the two of them,
Yes, yes, very much so. And the one liners Oh yeah,
just right off. I mean,Tarantino, it just always gives you
such great one line. Oh yeah, absolutely, He's just a genius when
it comes to those things where you'rejust like, oh, that's amazing.

(49:14):
And when we were at the Playboymansion and then um, they had Steve
McQueen explain the romantic triangle between SharonTate and Roman Polanski and I think his
name was Jerry, her former fiance. Like you had Steve McQueen um explain
it, and then he was explainingit to a woman I don't know who

(49:36):
she was, and she said like, yeah, she definitely has a type
and he's like, what are youtalking about? Well, a really creative
and talented um man with long hair, short short, short, brown hair
who looks like a twelve year oldboy. And then Steve McQueen takes a
dragon from a cigarette. He's like, I never had a chance because Steve

(49:57):
McQueen is a man. Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely wasn't right. Yeah,
it's one of those things where likeand that's such a great way to
establish like, Okay, who's thiswho's this guy who's always with them?
Yeah? You know, uh atthe party. And I was laughing too
because I was like, I justwant to go to that Playboy mansion party.
And you were like, that isthe tamest Playboy mansion party ever depicted

(50:22):
in film. And I was like, I know, it looks like so
much fun, Like everyone has theirclothes on. Everyone's just like even clothed
in the pool, and they're justlike dancing by themselves. That sounds like
that's my kind of dancing. Iwas like, that's fantastic. I want
to go to that party. Iwas like, all right. It was
very like I was like, QuentinTarantino is very tame in this moment.

(50:44):
Why is he so tame? Andlike, honestly, like as far as
Tarantino goes up until the very lastscene, you know this. He was
by his own standards. Yes,very tame. Oh my gosh, yeah,
very tame. Anys No, No, there was no sex, there
was no nudity. Um, therewas one sexual reference, right, um.

(51:07):
And then you had ultra super violenceat the end. Yes. But
here's the thing. They're the Mansonfamily, and we know what they would
have done in this well what theydid do in reality. So you did
not care how murdered they got.And they got murdered so hard, so

(51:28):
hard. It was so cathartic.Yeah for people who he knew that.
Yes, he knew exactly what heknew. He could push it just a
little further each, each below eachkill. Yes, like he, like
Tarantino knew. He's like, there'sgonna be no remorse for these characters.
No, there's gonna be no reservations, right, and he's right. We
were one behind them. We're justlike, murder them, torture them,

(51:51):
Yeah, do whatever you catic.It was like, yes, kill them
in the worst possible way. Itwas horrible, horrible people. Yes,
it was our baser instinct, wastrue. It was our lizard knee and
earthal brains coming out saying kill thosepeople. Yeah, and it was you
know, just um, I know, like we we mentioned before seeing this

(52:14):
film, we mentioned what like theSharon Tate was going to you know,
the character of short Sharon Tate wasgoing to be in this film. I
remember your mom just being like,oh my gosh, oh my gosh,
that was so oh my gosh,how horrific, Oh my gosh. You
know, just it made an impressionon a generation. It really did.
And um, whenever you know,someone dies in a horrific way, but

(52:36):
this was such a And I wasdoing some research after we watched the film
of like and maybe someone knows morethan I do, but like the research
I was, it wasn't really onehundred percent clear as to why his motivation.
His motivation was not like, oh, because he did this, or
because she did this, or becausehe felt it was like and I think

(52:57):
that's also what like creep people outso much, was just because like there
the motivation wasn't super clear and certainthings are just completely off limits and she
was and so like the fact thatTarantino just brutally murder them, we were
like, this is just the grossestlike horrifying images we were watching, But

(53:23):
you're okay with it? And ontop of that, he had brand Pitt's
character tripping on acid. Right,And so that in I'm not saying in
life, right, but in theaudience's mind, in the in the rule
book of right magic, exactly,it made certain acts okay because like if

(53:44):
a sober person did this, evento even to home invaders, right,
Like, this guy's a psychotic,there's something wrong with he's broken. Like
you're a broken man. You needto be in a mental institution if you
brutally killed people these ways, evenhome invaders, right. But because he
was tripping on acid, it wasokay. In some way, we were

(54:07):
able to justify here it's yeah,exactly real life, it's movie. It's
movie logic. Just like movie logicwhen we're saying like, yes, kill
them, it's movie logic. We'renot saying yes, actually kill no.
No, It's just one of thosethings where again it just goes to your
basically instincts of like, well it'sokay because he was on yeah, or

(54:27):
like like when you were watching anothermovie and you're just like, oh,
she was so rude to him,I hope she dies right right, right
exactly. It's a movie exactly.Um, but it was like the kind
of violence that they had, Likeyou and I were so into it because
we knew Tarantino was going to takeit over. You always expect that when
the violence started, you knew itwas going to go further than it possibly

(54:52):
needed to. And it just butit just each level kept shocking you more
and more to the point where likewe were rabbing each other and just going,
oh, like that loud in thetheater and uh. And then at
the very end, when you thinkit's almost over, Leonardo DiCaprio comes out
with a fricking flamethrower and just torchesthe last one girl who's alive flamethrower.

(55:20):
Yes, And when he walks outwith that, you're just like, yes,
oh seriously, And they had alreadyestablished that he has the thing in
his like how to use it,And it was just like yeah, and
you know what if that was inyour pool and j yeah, like you
would like, why not I havea flamethrower? There's a home intruder,

(55:44):
I'd be stupid nut who has agun? Yeah? Yeah, I um,
there was a few, Like Imean, it's really hard to sit
for me. I want to seeit again. Um, it's hard for
me. To like pinpoint honestly,a lot of weaknesses. I mean,
I'm sure I can next time wewatch it, Like, I'm sure there's

(56:06):
gonna be things that pad up.Um. What did you think about them
using footage from the Wrecking Crew?Um? Where they didn't use they didn't
like put Margo Robbie into it.But then when they showed this random footage
of the Gray Escape with Leo's characterin it, which I feel like was
that a dream? That was avery confusing scene. Okay, because we

(56:30):
had Timothy Eliphant's character talking to whowe love, by the way, who
we love very much. There's alot of handsome people in this movie.
He was talking with Leonardo DiCaprio andm Leo was talking about, you know,
his his former roles and what healmost got, and like Eliphant said,
like, was it true you almostgot you know, you almost shot

(56:52):
the Great Escape? And Leo saidlike he didn't, you know, like
it was down between him and likethree other guys. But then all of
a sudden we get flashes of scenesof him in the Great Escape, and
they used footage from the Great Escape, right, like they digitally composited Leo
over Steve McQueen right into this film, like they force scumped it, and

(57:15):
I was just kind of like,wait, is he lying to Timothy Oliphant,
Like is he saying like he's like, oh, yeah, I didn't.
I was like, I was almostin it, but I wasn't cast
in. It was just between meand three other guys, and he's just
imagining what it would have been likeif he was in the movie. Or
did they actually shoot some of itbut he got fired? Yeah, but
they didn't explain that. No,they didn't. And so when I saw

(57:37):
that, I was thinking, whenwhen Margot Robbie Sharon Tate walks into the
theater because she's going to watch herown movie, I was like, that
was first, I think, Idon't think so, No, No,
it came after. Okay, I'mpretty sure it came after. I'm pretty
sure it came after because I hadthat feeling of, oh, well,
m Sharon Tate, like Margot Robbieis going to be in this film,

(57:58):
but she's going to watch It's notgonna be Sharon Tate's. They're gonna they're
gonna force gumpany They didn't. Theydidn't. They just kept sharing. So
it kind of made me feel likemaybe that was just like Rick Dalton imagining
that he was in the Gray Escapeand what kind of job he would do.
Yeah, with the role, Ithink it could be a couple different
things. Margot Robbie, how theydressed her up and how they did her

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makeup does look a lot like shelooks a lot like Sharon, Like she's
a dead ringer for Sharon Tate.She is UM. So I think they
probably thought, Okay, well,we don't have to. I think I
even read that relatives like when theysaw her performance, like started crying because
she even like got the voice right, Like she did such a good job,
and like you can do a lotwith makeup. And also in Um

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in the movie like Wrecking Crew,she has a lot she's dressed up,
she has a different haircull, shehas her eye makeup is different, and
so you can you can say alot through it. You can say like,
oh she was just you know,you can launching it away. Also,
she was murdered horribly, and maybethey thought it was disrespectful to place

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her yeah in her work, Yeah, which I think all are valid.
Yeah, because unfortunately, I feellike Sharon Tate's known because of her murder
and not because of her work,and so like maybe Tarantino was like,
hey, let's like showcase her workjust a little bit, you know,
and kind of be in awe ofit, like for a moment. So

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that's possible too. Yeah. Yeah, So I think it could have been
all of those things, one ofthose things or all of them, yeah,
or any Yeah, it was alittle I just found it interesting because
it was like, I guess Iwas just trying to interpret, Like I
was totally respected keeping Sharon Tate inWrecking Crew, but I was a little
like, wait, what are weseeing when we were watching Yeah, the

(59:45):
Great Escape? That was very ambiguous. Yeah. Yeah. Uh was there
anything that you didn't like in themovie? Anything where you're just like no,
I mean, honestly, nothing withKurt Russell, Oh you do?
Okay, So I did not feellike any of the narration was needed.

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Well, you went to Pea duringthe second part of the Nurse, that's
true. So like, yeah,Rick Dalton got married while I was peeing,
and he made he made four filmsand six months and I missed all
that and then they were like ona plane back to the US by the
time I got back and I hada conversation where um Rick had to fire

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a cliff because he could happened.And then I was like, well,
crap, like why did I goat that time? Whereas I think you
missed? Like where were they?I went to Pea when they were at
the Mexican restaurant. Yeah, theywere both just eating and like talking and
like, well Kurt Russell was talkingthen too. It was like it was
yeah, he was just saying,you didn't miss anything. Basically. It

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was just saying like, yeah,Sharon Tate was hot because you know,
she was very pregnant, basically sayingthat because like it was really hot night,
and it was just like that's allyou missed, honestly. And then
like you know, I'm telling yousix, I know we can't go pe
together because you have to be thereor I have to be anyway, I'll

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see it when we own it,I guess whatever. But you didn't really
dig on the narration. No.I just felt like there was no point,
like and it felt it wasn't consistent. So like if it was consistent,
okay all the way through like Roseenand bombs, okay, yeah,
because it's not like you don't likenarration. No, I like narration.
I love narration. I like herWressell's voice, but it did not feel

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appropriate when they were using it.It also felt like we could easily do
this with like title cards when wewere because we used those all throughout,
like where it was like six monthslater. Well No, they did that
though, and they also did likelocations, and they also did times like
during the Mexican Restaurant team they werelike this is you know, not a

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thirty you know or whatever. Soit just felt like, why why is
he talking? I feel like ifit was just the middle like it was,
if it was just the beginning ofthe third act where they jumped six
months forward, if they had narrationjust there, I think it would have
been fine. I disagree. Whatwhy Like, okay, you mean we

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had never heard narration up until thatpoint. No, that's terrible. What
what? No? Because okay,that first time we hear narration, it
was for like five seconds, andit was like it took me out of
it. I didn't like it.It totally took you out of the out
of the film where it's just like, ah, that's a lie. It's
because he because he was drunk andhe got his license taken away, boom
back into the film. You're like, Okay, is this gonna be a

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thing? Like are we gonna hearhim pop up? And we didn't,
and so I thought that was weird. But when we get to the to
the beginning of the third act andwe have a huge time jump where he's
now married and he's like, hemade four films in six months. There's
no way we could have covered thatin a good amount of time either,
Like there was like maybe you couldhave done that with a montage. Yes,

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yes you could have. I'm sayingis that there was narration, and
if you wanted to do the narration, that's the way to do it is
just do that six month jump andthen don't do it at the Mexican restaurant.
Don't do it with the drunk driving. I disagree. I think you
have to be consistent. I thinkyou have to do it all the way
through, like sporadically, like oryou have to. What they did was
not enough, and I don't thinkthat you could. I don't think that

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it should have happened right at forlike if you just have it six months
later a part, I don't thinkthat works either you're wrong. I don't
care, okay, but you're wrong, and it took me out of it.
I didn't think there was any purposeto it because we were able to
gather everything that they told us inthat narration. If they just gave us
a montage or just like what theywere doing at the Mexican restat like time

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whatever, and then just have hertalk and be like, oh, I'm
just hot, that's all you needed, Okay, Like, well, no,
I'm saying the Mexican restaurant narration waspointless from what you've subscribed. Yeah,
that I get, Okay, I'mfine with being wrong. If I
am, I don't care, Wellyou are, but that's all right.
Still love you. So I thinkwe've been going for a while. It's
over an hour. It's because anamazing film. We should probably let these

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people go. H So, howwould you how would you rate this on
a star rating? On a fivestar rating? How would you rate this
film? Have I ever given insomething a five star? No? Think
I think this might be a fivestar for me. Wow, I know,
I don't think this has ever happenedin their nuptial history. This could
be the first time that you givea star rating higher than me really because

(01:04:39):
normally you are I am brutal.You are a brutal star critic like you
are you are. Even though Idid not like Curse Russell's narration, it
did not lower a star for melike you like when you give a star
rating, it really earns that starrating, it did. I am very
loose. I am. I am. I am lucy goosey, like I'm

(01:04:59):
drunk, come prom like I likeI am. I am that loose with
my stars and um, and sowhen I gave I gave this one four
and a half, okay, andwhen I gave it four and a half,
I'm just like him, I beingtoo loose really, you know,
like him, I'm so harsh.Yeah, but like I wanted, like
I gave a quick like like whenI I have a letterbox diary and on

(01:05:25):
it, I said, I waslike, I gotta see it again,
I gotta think about it. Um, I'm given it four and a half
stars, but I easily feel likethis could be bumped up to five.
Well that's what I We're going togo do that right now. No,
I'm keeping it four now again.Yeah, okay, because that narration.
Man, it's just that's no.I honestly, there's not much. I

(01:05:47):
mean, and again, like eventhough I clearly did not like the narration
and I felt like it was unnecessary, it didn't change how much I loved
this mill of a movie. No, it was fantastic. Uh yeah,
four and a half for me,four and a half stars. I'm gonna
stick with my five which I mean, that's the thing is that like five
stars is like Godfather and and thiscould turn out being this could with time

(01:06:16):
be my favorite Tarantino. That wasgonna be my next question because you have
pulp fiction first, then Kill Bill, and what would you have it after
that? Reservoir Dogs? Yeah,probably the same with me. Okay,
where would you put it? Asof right now? Seeing it one time
only one time? Is I reallyhave a hard time? I mean,
I definitely know I would like itmore than Reservoir Dogs. But I'm wondering

(01:06:41):
if it kind of fits in betweenpulp Fiction and Kill Bill for me,
Like, that's kind of what I'mquestioning. If not, I don't know,
like it could be. I thinkpulp Fiction is still number one,
number one for me, it's justso classic. I think Kill Bill Volume
two is still number two for me, think how Once upon a Time is

(01:07:02):
nestled in between volume one and volumetwo, Well, and I view them
as one whole thing. So sothis is so it's essentially the same.
Yeah, but with time, Iwonder, I really do wonder how it'll
rank for me because I liked itthat much. Yeah, I really was
jazzed with this film. I thinkthe only other time I was super jazzed

(01:07:24):
like this with a film was InfinityWar, and that was a completely different
type. Yeah, it's feeling likeInfinity War felt like a a prize after
ten years ye competing for something,right, I felt like it was dessert,
Like Infinity War was dessert after havingten years of a meal. And

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with Once upon a Time in Hollywood, it's it's standalone, it's its own
thing. It's an original story andyou're just you get that. It just
you get that same jazzed feeling likeInfinity War or needed you know, all
those twenty some films to back it, and it's just a different type of
film. It's just a completely it'sapples and oranges, right, But having

(01:08:11):
that feeling, enjoyment quotient, thatentertainment quotitions, right, was Infinity warm
was like Infinity War, but it'slike we said, it's totally different.
But I was just left the theaterlike that was so entertaining, Like that
is why I go to the movies. Yeah, absolutely, that's how I
feel too. You should go seeit again. It's an almost three hour

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movie and we have a toddler,so it's probably not going to happen until
it comes out. But but wouldwe want to yes very much. All
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