The Power of Story Telling

In this installment of The Creative Consciousness Series Bonus Episode ORRA interviews Ronald M. Kimmons, Fantasy Novelist. Author of the novella Den of the Wolfman, available for free download, In this novella prequel to Wild River, Bandas River man must tap into hidden powers to track down a serial killer known as the "Wolfman"...but he must be careful not to lose himself in the process. Also his fantasy novel Wild River! In a young city thriving under massive immigration and an industrial revolution, a seemingly inconsequential factory worker who has gone missing. When multiple influential people come to investigator Bandas Riverman and ask him to find her, his investigation soon becomes the focal point of a looming conflict between powerful groups...and Bandas soon discovers that he is not the only one with special powers that have long been hidden from the world.

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fantasy novelists and a special guest fortoday's episode called the Power of Storytelling.
And I have a storyteller, afantasy novelist by the name of Ronald Kimmons,

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a family man, and we're gonnahave a discussion about his um about
his book all right, and we'regonna discuss his book Den of a Wolfman
and Wild River as well, butoverall, just we're gonna discuss, you
know, his passion for m youknow, writing, and some of the
reasons why he chose to go independentand how he believes that dreams do become

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a reality and much more so,without further ado, let's welcome to the
show, Ronald Kimmins. Welcome tothe show. Ronald, Hello, Hello,
thanks for having me on. Yeah, not a problem, and um,
welcome to the show. Really,you know, really excited about you
coming on. So Ronald, Um, you know, being a fantasy novelist

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is um, it's a pretty nichemarket in the in the writing community,
right yeah, yeah, and anduh and sometimes the fantasy kind of doesn't
get much respect from other other areasof the writing community. Really, why
is that? Well, you know, like I'm someone in college and I
actually majored. I did a doublemajor in English and Chinese, you know,
so I I studied a lot ofof literature in college. And I

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can tell you, like among umcollege professors and such, there's they kind
of looked down on fantasy a lotum And there's there's a reason for that,
and that is that that they justdon't really see. I think the
main thing is they don't think thatfantasy writers have pros, write with pros
that's on the on the level ofother writers like realistic fiction. And I

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think to some extent that is true, um, but I think that it's
they're they're focusing on only one aspectof the writing and ignoring other aspects of
it. And also that's not evencategorically true. It's it's true for some
fantasy writers, but I think theother fantasy writers have quite beautiful pros.
Um. But the fantasy writers tendto focus more on world building. You

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know, in order to create afantasy novel, you have to not just
you don't just build characters. Youdon't just create characters, You create an
entire world. And in doing that, fantasy writers that that's just more of
where their focus goes right, AndI think that because of that, they
don't focus as much on the artistryof the language a lot of the time,
and and the genre itself just lendsitself more to that, Like you

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have to spend more time on expositionmaybe than than you would in a work
of of of realistic fiction, becausepeople already know the world, they already
know the background, right, youdon't have to go and explain all these
little details and things to get themcaught up so they understand what's going on.
Right. Um, So it's thewhat fantasy writers are fundamentally doing is

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different, and I think a lotof times what happens is is they're being
judged by a standard that they shouldn'tbe judged by because because it's it's it's
a different it's a different thing thatthey're doing altogether, um, compared to
you know, realistic fiction. Andof course you not being judged by a
relevant standard. They tend to theytend to, you know, be judged

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rather harshly according to that standard.Do you think George Lucas was one of
those people that was judged quite harshly? Oh yeah, oh absolutely absolutely,
And and yeah Lucas, I meanI see Lucas as a genius. Um.
I I would I have my qualmsabout Star Wars before and after he
sold the rights, you know,um, you know, but um,

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but you know, I think he'sdefinitely a genius in various ways. UM.
And I think that as a storyteller, he's a very he's a very
capable storyteller. And um. AndI could I could I go off in
tangent what I think George Lucas.Yeah, it's the simple answers. Yeah,
he's he I think that he's beenjudged harshly and I but I think

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that he's a genius and he doesn'the doesn't deserve to be judged as harshly,
as harshly as he has often been. But you know what, when
people are really successful, um,I think that any imperfections that they have
tend to be overstated by others whowould like to be as successful as them.
Yeah. Those are called haters.Yeah. Yeah, they're always looking
for you know, because of thatanimosity and jealousy and envy. Um,

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they're just looking for any little thingthat they can possibly criticize. Um.
And that's just that's just the wayof this world, especially in this country,
especially I mean, I think thiscountry does it the most out of
any other place around the world.Um. Now, I know that you
have mentioned that ever since you werea little kid. Um, you always
were into writing, always daydreaming about, you know, stories, and creating

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certain ideas and putting them, youknow, on paper and creating these different
realities in your mind to eventually becominga novelist. But it wasn't always like
that once you became an adult,right, So you did start a family.
It says you got into website content. So can you talk a little
bit of what that was like,because what I want the listeners to kind

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of get from your story as wellas that whatever dream you may have or
a passion to do something, itdoesn't always start out like that. One
should become an adult and you gotto pay bills, and in your situation,
not only did you have that factorin, but you started a family,
so you have the responsibility of raisinga family, being a married man

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and having children so on and soforth. Right, So what was that
like in the beginning of being awebsite content creator and also translating foreign languages?
How many languages do you speak?Actually, well, I'm pluting a
Mandarin. I can speak pretty wellin Spanish, I'm conversational in Spanish,
and then and then I can readpretty well in Portuguese and Indonesian. And

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so I've I've actually translated from allof those languages to English and I and
I know a little Arabic. Ican kind of read Arabic, not not
too well though, I'm still I'mstill working on that one. So it
sounds like you speak what about fourlanguages something like that, a varying varying
degrees. Yeah, okay, great, that's wonderful. So what was it
like having that passion and having toput it on hold to you know,

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raising a family, getting married andyou know, having a job that not
maybe that you wasn't as passionate aboutas than becoming a novelist. Can you
talk about that a little bit?Yeah, I mean, and so I
graduated from college in two thousand andnine, and I also got married right
at that time, like right rightafter I graduated. And my wife is
Brazilian and at that time she wason a student visa. She couldn't legally

(08:46):
work here, you know, SoI was I was a rereadwinner, you
know, I was graduated, Okay, time to make money, right and
uh, and I couldn't get ajob. You know, everyone had told
me like, oh, you're fluentMandarin, You're gonna have so many opportunities.
None of those people had any ideawhat their talking about. It was.
I found out. I found outthat at if you're if you're already
competitive for C level executive positions,then being fluent in Mandarin is really good.

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But I wasn't so so it didn'treally help me that much. Um.
So I started off I was writinga lot of of of website content,
just like kind of helping people tojust put articles and things on their
websites, you know, blog postsand stuff. Um. And back in
those days, SEO was was alot more of a blunt force initiative,

(09:28):
you know, and and and Ihelped people write kind of low level SEO
generating articles and things like that.Then from that I moved on to getting
a translation work. I started doinga lot of document translation, you know,
and and and I enjoy that stillnot my favorite thing. Um.
Throughout this whole process, I kindof felt like I was pounding rocks.
UM didn't like it very much.I really had to grind to to make

(09:50):
ends meet, you know. Um, I ended up going going and getting
an MBA and I still didn't getthe kind of job I was looking for
and ended up going and working atranslation company, which was which was it
was fine, it was it wasa decent job, but it wasn't.
I was about as high as Iwas going to get in that industry,
you know. And I worked therefor three years. Um and uh.
And while I was doing that,I was researching different things about about digital

(10:11):
marketing, you know. And andI had tried multiple small entrepreneurship attempts,
you know. And uh. Itried to start my own business a few
times, like like I tried tostart at a Chinese school and teaching people
Mandarin stuff like that, and noneof that went overwhell And the reason,
the main reason was I was terribleat marketing. So I studied marketing while
I was working at that job.And uh and I uh And then one

(10:33):
point I just came home I toldmy wife, you know, I want
to be an entrepreneur and so weshe said, okay, I'll help you,
and so we started our own digitalmarketing agency and I did and we
kind of had to change direction acouple of times, but it ended up
with us focusing on helping people withUH with info products to sell their info
products online usually through like through Facebookads and things like that. And and

(10:58):
yeah, and we that that agency. That's we still have that now when
my wife is kind of taking thatover, you know, and and she's
it's kind of become her thing,and I'm stepping away and focusing on my
writing when being a novelist because that'swhat I've always wanted to do. And
she's excited for that because she likesshe's a big fantasy fantasy fan. She
likes to read it. She wantsto read what I can write, you
know, and so she's been verysupportive of that. And that's that's where

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we are now. Well that's great, I mean, yeah, so based
on you doing the digital marketing,you were helping other entrepreneurs get their product
solved. So that kind of inspiredyou to say, hey, let me
become an entrepreneur myself, but pursuemy passion and what I want to sell,
which is my my stories, myfantasy novels. Right, Okay,

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great, Yeah, um you askedyou asked about when I was a kid,
right, I didn't really say anythingabout that the Yeah, if you
want to talk about that, Yeah, what kind of inspired that as a
child for you to even want toget into writing? Yeah, So like
it's like when I was a kid, you know, my parents had nine
kids, have nine kids, um, big family, and my dad was
he was not entrepreneur, and hewas doing pretty well. But then like
that kind of just crashed and burnedall of a sudden, and we ended

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up having to We moved out intothe into the country, you know,
and literally living on a dirt road, uh, living in a camping trailer
um and slowly building a house besidethe camping trailer, you know, and
building it ourselves mostly and uh,you know, we didn't have much much
money, and but we had someThe land was cheap, so we had
like twenty acres you know, andand and we had like a little ravine

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going through the land back behind ourhouse and stuff. So like we would
go outside and play, Me andmy siblings we go outside and play.
And it's very imaginative. We're veryimaginative kids. And and that we had
hardships, but we also had ummany opportunities to to express ourselves through through
imaginative play and through uh, youknow, by by creating things. You

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know, I would write stories andspiral notebooks. I seldom finished them,
but I would start them, youknow, and I would go and I
my mother would be you know,in the kitchen, washing dishes or whatever,
and I would go and talk toher about what I was thinking,
stories I was coming up with.And and that that's pretty pretty good,
uh, description of what my childhoodwas like. You And in fourth and

(13:11):
fifth grade when I when I wasa kid, I my school had competitions
to write books, right, andboth years I won the award for the
best book written, you know,and that was a big deal for me,
very meaningful for me. Um.And and after that, you know,
I always wanted to write novels,write books, but I knew,

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I knew that it wasn't an easyway to earn a living, right.
I knew that. I knew thatmost authors don't make very much money.
Some make a lot, most don'tmake very much. Um. And so
I just never saw it. Itwas always something I kind of wanted to
do, kind of in my sparetime, but it was not something that
I really thought that I could seriouslypursue. Um. But now it's just
that now that we've built our businessup to where it is, and now

(13:52):
that my wife is is kind oftaking over, that I have a space
to do that and and I'm finallyable to pursue that. I know some
other people pursue this just as apart time thing, you know, like
at night and stuff. Um,I haven't really been able to do that,
you know, because I have Ihave five kids. Um, I
spend time with my kids, Ispend time with my wife, and I
just I just don't like to goin the evenings and just after after working

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all day to go and evenings andclose myself and and work on a book.
Is It's not really something that thathas worked for me in my life,
right, Um, But um,but now know this is this is
basically what I'm doing. This iswhat I do for work now. So
I'm finally able to dedicate myself tothis and and it's great. I love
it. Well. You know,I think that your story is very important
for people who may have some doubtsor have some roadblocks that they think are

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insurmountable or that that are not possiblebecause a lot of times, you know,
we we get caught up in workingand not really pursuing what we'd like
to do opposed to what we thinkwe need to do, and then what
what what we need to do windsup becoming all we do and then we
don't do anything else. So Ithink your story is very import and for
people to listen to because where isa will, there's a way, and

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you found a way. Especially,you know, having five children, that's
a lot of it's a lot ofwork, you know, yea, even
if you have a wife and help, you know, uh, it's it's
not an easy thing to do.And you found a way to do it,
and it took some time. Butthe good thing is that you made
it there and now now you're doingit. So let's talk about the type
of mind you have to create thesefantasies, right, because fantasy novels can

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be anything, right, it canbe it can take place in outer space,
it can take place in the pastin some future society, modern day
society. The level of characters thatcan be described in these types of novels
is endless when it comes to thecharacter character descriptions and all of that stuff.
So there's we're gonna go in order, right, I want to go

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into order of your prequel and thenyour actual fantasy novel. So your prequel
is called The Then of a Wolfman. Yeah, it's um it's a novella.
And by the way, for thelisteners, UM, this is going
to be available for UM a freedownload. UM on the description page for

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this episode called the Power of Storytellingand you'll be able to click on it
at www dot Ronald Kimmins dot com. Forward slam Ah, sorry, Ronald
M. Kimmins dot com. Forwardlast free nash novella and UM and this
novella it's a prequel to your actualfantasy novel, which is called Wild Rivers,

(16:34):
right, I mean Wild River andum Riverman. It's like he says,
you tap into the hidden powers totrack down a serial killer known as
Wolfman, but he must be carefulnot to lose himself in the process.
So can you let the listeners knowa little bit about this so they can,
you know, get an idea ofwhat this prequels all about, because

(16:56):
you did say it takes place inthe UM eighteen hundreds, right, Yeah,
it's I mean, it's a fantasyworld. It's not on Earth.
It's a different world, but it'sbased it's very similar to Earth and it's
based on like an eighteen sixties Americaenvironment. It's it's very similar to that,
Like right after this American Civil War, there's a city called Wild River.
It's it's and Wild River is isUM based on it's kind of a

(17:19):
mix of New Orleans and New Yorknow and it's like on a different planet.
Yeah, different planet, different worldaltogether. It's just but it's but
it's very similar to eighteen sixties America. UM. And and uh yeah,
it's ah, there are there's magicum, but it's this is it's kind
of low key magic um. It'svery subtle UM. And you know,

(17:40):
they're different kinds people people have inmy world for the most part, people
with magical abilities. It's it's hereditaryand they they're able to do kind of
like a one or two specific things. And there are different and there are
different kinds of things that people mayhave depending on their on their ancestry.
UM. And the main character hiddenpowers, right, yeah, yeah,
the main character this Riverman, sohe is actually he was born a slave

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and he saw the the ending ofslavery in that part of the world.
UM, but it didn't exactly endbecause there's still Um, there's still what
we would call indentured servitude where peoplecan like sign contracts and they basically become
a slave for however long the contractlasts. And of course back in our
history and in American history, youknow that would that was done like a

(18:26):
lot of for example, a lotof Irish people did that, um,
where they they were basically treated sameas slaves. It's just that that there
they had a certain term that wouldend. And in this world that is
still going on. Now, didyou follow the traditional guidelines of what happened
actually in real life here when itcomes to slavery or did you add a

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different type of element? And whatI mean by that is liked this man
bend this riverman? Is he ishe considered a black man? Or is
he some other type of of ethnics? So physically he looks he would looks
like what we would describe as aslike maybe like an Arab or Latino.
He's kind of a middle kind ofa medium brown color skin. Um,

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and he and he has orange eyes. Um. But but the slavery in
this world is actually not race based. It's it's uh just more it's almost
it's more like what it was inthe Roman Empire. Well, it's like
how it used to be before theUnited States. Yeah before Yeah, before
the atlanted slaves. Yeah. Andand basically if you get if you get
captured and someone says you're a slave, then you're a slave. And that's

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that's that. And your your childrenwill be slaves unless they you can buy
their way out of slavery or whatever. And and in and in this world,
the slaves have tattooed, their tattooed, which was also a common thing
in the ancient world. But theyhave tattoos on their hands to to show
their slaves. And Bondus riverman herehe's freed. Now he's a freeman,
but as a freeman, he's stillliving with these tattoos on his hands,
right, that still mark him.And still and there's still this social um,

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this subtle social tattoo about that aboutabout you can still see who was
and was not a slave, eventhough slavery has ended, you know.
Um. So anyway, Banda's he'shis his special ability and I don't want
to give away too much, buthe's he's what he's what you call a
seer. He's he's clairvoyant in certainways and This helps him as this is

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one of the reasons why he becamean investigator, a private investigator, because
that ability helps him in his investigations. Like he he specifically has something called
clear tangency, where like if likeif someone was was murdered using a knife,
he can touch the knife and sortof relive the moment of the murder.
Any strong emotions or strong memories attachedto an object, he can touch

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the object and and and feel thatand and that's that's his special power.
Um and there there are other people, other kinds of people in the world
have other special powers, but that'show he is now. Now there is
In the novella then of the Wolfman, there's a there's a serial killer who's
going around and brutally murdering people inWild River, and for some reason,
a local tycoon gets interested in thisand he comes and hires Bondus Riverman to

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go catch the serial killer. Eventhough the cops are after the serial killer,
he goes in specifically behind hires Bondusto go after him, and and
that's when the story starts. Inthe novella, and the reason for the
tycoon getting into it, you don'treally understand it so much until later on
in the novel. Um. Butuh, but yeah, so he has
to go after the serial killer whohimself has certain special abilities. Um and

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uh, and he has has toyou know, find him before he before
he kills again. Now before wego into the actual novel, that this
is just a prequel to the actualnovel. Yeah, Um, where does
the inspiration for this type of scenariocome from? You know, where you
come up with these ideas like inheritinguh certain powers, um, having it

(21:47):
as indented slaver too, and thecharacter coming from that type of background and
all of these different elements. Likewhere does the inspiration for you to put
this on paper come from? Oh? Just you know a lot of different
places. I mean, um,I'm a big I'm a big fan in
fantasy. There are kind of twokinds of magic that you see. You
have hard magic and soft magic.Soft magic is more like what you see

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in in Tolkien maybe Terry Brooks.Um, it's there. There really aren't
that many limitations to it. It'sjust kind of there. Um. Harry
Potter is another soft magic element.Like you don't you never really know what
element of magic they're going to bringin the story. Now because there don't
there are any real clear limitations rightum, whereas hard magic is more like
Brandon Sanderson. If you've Brandon Sanderson, he's a big fan of hard magic

(22:33):
magic. And so am I becauseI feel that it it uh, it
creates more of a sense of ofof what the limitations are and what the
risks are the hazards, and whatthe character's abilities are. So I like
that better. So I so Ineed to find a way to have some
sort of limitation right on on themagic system. And what I chose in
this one was was through heredity andto make it a matter of parentage.

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And that works with themes of thestory because it's the story does talk a
lot about like class conflict things likethat, um, and it kind of
feeds into into that narrative of ofclass conflict. But but you know,
there there are other ways that youcan do a hard magic system, but
that's the one that I chose.Um as far as this exact setting,

(23:19):
like the eighteen sixty setting, butI think it's See, the first book
that I wrote was not Wild River. The first book book that I wrote,
it was a nonfiction book. It'sactually on Amazon. It's called it's
called the Struggle of All Ages,and it's about um Joseph Smith's prophecy of
the American Civil War. He like, he said that the American Civil War
would happen back in eighteen thirty two, and he gave certain detail. He

(23:41):
gave, like there's about six mainpoints that he said things that he said
would happen, Like he said,the North and South would fight against each
other or and it would be largelybecause of slavery and and and he said
that you know that the South wouldappeal to Britain for help. He said
that the first battle would be inSouth Carolina. You know all that all
that happened, right um And anyway, so I wrote a book talking about
that, and in doing that,I had to I had to research a

(24:03):
lot about that period. And soI had just finished writing that book and
I said, Okay, I wantto write a fantasy novel now. And
I had already mapped out kind ofthousands of years of history for this fantasy
world, and I wanted to write. I wanted to write stories at different
points in the history of this world. And I had initially intended to write
my first one in kind of amedieval medieval period, because that's kind of
where what fantasy tends to be,right. But because I had just done

(24:25):
all this, all this, uhthis research on eighteen fifties eighteen sixties,
I said, well, you know, that's what I know right now,
so I'm going to focus on thatperiod. And so that's what I did,
and I ended up writing Wild River. Let's talk about your research,
because I wanted to talk about that. Do you ever really go deep into
researching, um for ideas, maybetraveling to certain places? Um, Do

(24:45):
you do any type of what Iwould consider niche research where you do certain
things like goal places to try tobuild on whatever ideas you come up with
and gain certain knowledge to fit deemsof these novels. So I haven't,
Um, I haven't done any travelingas research. I've done a lot of

(25:06):
traveling and and that has definitely influencedUM my writing. You know, like
I I was a missionary in Taiwanfor two years. I lived in Chile
for a year. I lived inBrazil for a few months. Yeah,
I lived in Brazil for a fewmonths. Um. I've you know,
I've lived in different different parts ofthe US. I want to go to
a lot of other places, andI intend to. Um, I've been
in Mexico, you know, andand and and yeah, that my my

(25:26):
traveling has definitely has definitely influenced tome, but more in the sense of
just helping me to kind of understand, um, other cultures and how cultures
can, how cultures can be different. And and you you see, you
see that a little bit in WildRiver, Like there's a little bit of
of like Eastern philosophy in Wild Riverthat has come into that. Um.
But as far as research, butI do, I do a lot of

(25:48):
research, as far as uh uh, you know, reading books on all
kinds of all kinds of different things. Um, I'm a kind of guy.
I'm I'm I'm curious about just abouteverything. Like you look at my
bookshelf. I have like all kindsof stuff I'm looking over here at Like
I have a fabric of the Cosmosright beside, a book about about the
Crusades. You know, It's justit's anything and everything interests me, and

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it all influences my writing. Um. But specifically, yeah, because I
was writing about the book about theCivil War in that period, you know,
I've I did a lot of alot of serious research for that specific
period. UM. I didn't likego to any Civil war battlefields or anything
like that, you know, forresearch, But I definitely read a lot
of books. And like I said, you know, my travels have definitely

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influenced my writing and who I amand your travels. Is there any particular
one place that has left you inawe to post to any other places that
you've been around in the world.Is there one that you can pinpoint that
really like when you were there,you were really in awe of the landscape,
the culture, the people. Taiwan'slike a second home to me.
Um. And It's been a whilesince I've been there. I want to

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go back soon. I would havegone back in twenty twenty, but then
COVID hit and everything was shut downand I couldn't go anyone. Um.
But uh, but yeah, Taiwan'slike a second hold me. And I
think Taiwan is actually largely underrated.Um in the West. I think a
lot of Americans don't even know thedifference between Taiwan and Thailand, um and
and don't really know much about Taiwanand all. Thaiwan is a beautiful place,

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It's a safe place, it's youknow, they have great beaches,
they have mountains, they it's it'suh, it's you know, culturally,
it's very interesting because you have thismix of the dominant Chinese culture there with
the Aboriginal culture, the the originalinhabitants of Taiwan or are there the Filipinos
came from Taiwan from that area,like there was a diaspora going from Taiwan

(27:36):
tow throughout South Southeast Asia and thoseislands there, and but they that originated
from Taiwan, um and and tosee that mixture of culture. They're different,
different kinds of Chinese cultures in Taiwan, but also also the the U
and Julian, the the the Aborigineswho are very much like Native Americans.
Um and uh. That's very interesting. And and just in Taiwan's just a

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beautiful place, you know. Igot I rode my bike around around the
cities, and I was also inthe more rural areas, you know,
riding around in the hills and youknow, looking over rice patties and everything.
It's very picturesque and in many inmany places, and and I'd like,
I'd very much like to go back, and I tend to go back
soon. Well, the good newsis that UM COVID nineteen is no longer

(28:21):
considered an emergency health issue right now. UM, and now it's not declared
that by the world HURLD organizations.So that's going to be changing up a
lot of different UM things that werebeing done because of that. So that
just happened on Friday. Yeah,and that's not now As far as Taiwan
specifically, now the issue is China, because China's been doing a lot of
saber rattling UM, and we don'treally know what they're gonna do. UM.

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As far as you know, shijimpingIs has basically said that he intends
to invade Taiwan, right and andI know that there there was a there
was a rumor that supposedly he hadtold last year he had told UM Putin
that he intended to invade Taiwan,you know, in In in the end
of twenty twenty two. UM.Of course he didn't do that. I
don't know if he was just playingPutin, if he was serious, but

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then he backed off when he saw, you know how things didn't go well
for Putin in Ukraine, or ifthat was just all made up. I
don't know, but I but hehas said that, you know, he
wanted to see the reunification of Taiwanhappened while he was while he was you
know, in charge of things.So Um, so we don't really know
what's going to happen. I thinkthat what's most likely to I don't think
he's ever going to invade Taiwan,but I do think it's rather likely that

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he will try to blockade it anduse a blockade to force Taiwan into submission.
And yeah, being there if youknow at that time when that's going
on, could possibly be very problematic. So that that has been affecting my
plans. I keep looking at atat the events going on and saying,
you know, I want to goback to Taiwan. I want to go
back to Taiwan, but I don'tknow when that's going to happen. Well,

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you know, let's talk about what'sgoing on real quick, because you
know, for me, um,it's never a dull momentum, not just
here in the United States but reallyaround the world these days, especially after
COVID or during COVID because the plandemicI call it, after the plandemic came
into play. So many things havebeen happening in this world from day to

(30:15):
day, and it's just never beena dull moment because there's so much to
discuss. So many journalists have thingsto write about and how the world is
changing, from economics to agriculture,to medicine, to industry, pharmaceuticals,
you name it. There's something changing, from transhumanism to cultural awareness, self

(30:41):
awareness, spirituality. I mean,just so much going on. And with
all that going on, I'm wonderingbefore we start talking about this novel,
is this are these events that arecurrently taking place and have been for the
past three years now and counting.Have they've been giving you uh um,
Like, have they been influencing youfor you to create a new type of

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novel based on everything that's happened?Um? I mean there's there's definitely influenced
there. And yeah, and it'ssomething that I that I think about a
lot. You know. I I'mwhat you would call a classic liberal,
you know, I'm I used thatby the way for those that don't know,
because you know, not what Americansthink a liberal is. It's so
what's a classic liberal? I wouldsay like a kind of a moderate libertarian,

(31:26):
you know, Um, someone whowho thinks government should exist, but
does not trust government and and isa big believer in limited government and checks
and balances, um, and andwho who does not think that the government,
that more laws, that more forcedfrom from the government, is the
solution to every single problem that exists. Right. UM. So so yeah,

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I UM this question, that's actuallysomething interesting. That's actually something I
talk about in in my first bookand in the Struggle of All Ages,
um, even though it was aboutthe Civil War. UM. I talked
about it in the book, howhow the implications of the Civil War,
how it's come down to today,and how that was kind of the first
phase of something that has continued totoday. Because when you when you when

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you look at like war scholars,they'll tell you that the American Civil War
was the first modern war. Andthere are many reasons for that. One
one reason is the technology, Likethis is the first war where both sides
extensively used railroads. First war,both sides use telegraphs, both sides used
aerial reconnaissance, um, but bothsides use submarines, you know, on
and on and on. UM.But it's also there was also the first

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modern war, or at least itwas the beginning of a modern age of
warfare. In terms of ideology,Like people talk about the American Revolution and
how that was the shot heard aroundthe world, right, how this was,
this was the beginning of resistance toto monarchy and to colonialism. Um.
But the thing is that that ledto a certain era of revolution that
didn't actually accomplish very much throughout alot of the world. Like the Europeans

(32:58):
were trying trying to advance liberal ideologies, um, overthrow the monarchies and stuff,
but they weren't too successful. Andthen when the American Civil War happened,
See that was that was a matterof global importance, because because this
nation was seen as kind of thethe hallmark of these liberal these new liberal
values, right, this was thisnation was proof that monarchs were not needed

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and that people could self govern.And the monarchs of Europe were looking on
and seeing what was happening here andsaying, see, this is proof that
it doesn't really work. Right,And and the liberals in Europe we were
looking over here and saying and justand just cheering for the North and saying
this, this needs this because theysaw this as as ground zero for a
global struggle between statism and liberalism.And it was and since that time,

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since that time, when you lookat every major conflict that has happened,
the ideology underlying every single major conflicthas been largely centered around this philosophical conflict
of statism versus liberalism. Before theyin Civil war, it was more like,
oh, you know, I wefight for our country, you fight
for our monarch is a matter ofyou have something we want or or we

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have something you want, therefore we'refighting. But it wasn't so much a
matter of like universal ideology. Andpeople would fight for freedom, but they
fight for their own freedom. Theywouldn't fight for other people's freedom because it
wasn't understood to be a universal concept. But now in this age, this
idea, these these basic liberal valuesof of of a basic equality among people,
of resisting statism, resisting authoritarianism,these these ideas are largely accepted throughout

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the world, and there are peoplewho fight against them. And that's why
virtually every major conflict has had thatideological basis of statism versus liberalism, even
when it's just lip service, likea lot of the time they're just you
know, people pretending to be tofight for so called democracy or whatever,
and they're not really, but stillthe ideology is there, right, And
and that's and that's continuing today andit's becoming more and more meaningful because because

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what's happening now is technology is advancingto the point point where it allows for
a certain level of surveillance and controlbeyond anything that has ever been seen in
the past. Like like back inthe in the eighteen hundreds, what you
know, what the the Czar ofRussia would do to control his people is
he would he would control who couldor could not use the railroad. Right.
But and that in itself was waspretty a pretty significant exercise of power,

(35:21):
and it had an effect. Butnow now where at the point where
government wants wants to be able tocontrol you know, what you can buy,
where you can not just whether ornot you can use the train,
but whether or not you know,you can walk in a certain place.
You know, you want to controlevery aspect of our lives. Yeah,
And the thing is a lot ofit really is well intentioned, you think
a lot a lot of it.Only I think most of the people out

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there who are advocating these things,you can find no shortage of people advocating
statism, advocating more and more andmore government control. Those people aren't tyrants.
They are they are tools of tyrants. But they don't realize, they
don't realize what they're really advocating.See, so I don't I don't.
I don't see that for most part, I don't. For most part,
I don't see all this happening asa result of some grand um plan.

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But it is. But it ishappening, and people in power will do
whatever they can to maintain and increasetheir power. And and if we have
this new technology that allows them toto go and uh and uh surveil people,
to micromanage their lives, then theywill they will take that. They
will use that, of course theywill. There's a great book called um

(36:27):
Um called Weapons of Math Destruction.Have you heard of it? Yes,
it's a it's a great book.And she talks about how how, like
how algorithms are taking over our livesand a lot of the time, like
it's not like there's not malice there, but it's still being done and people
are doing it without realizing the consequences. You know, she talks about she
talks about like um a teacher andI think it was in Dallas. I'm

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not sure she was. She wasa great teacher by by anyone who who
knew her would have said she wasa great teacher. She actually got an
award for being a great teacher.And then the next year she was fired.
Why because because this performance algorithm determinedthat she was not a good teacher.
And but the thing is, somesome of some people try to investigate
that and say, Okay, accordingto what standard are you saying that that

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these people who are being fired arenot good teachers? And the thing is
they could not look at the algorithm. They were not allowed to because the
algorithm was proprietary, was owned bya company that you know, if they
showed people the ins and outs ofthe algorithm, then that's giving way their
their proprietary proprietary Um uh, they'rethey're giving away what what they supposedly produced.
That's that's a value, right andso and so they won't do that.

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So so in the end, peoplewere being judged by something that they
could not scrutinize. And we're we'reputting ourselves under the control of things that
we're not allowed to control ourselves,Like there's no check and balance there,
it's just and it's almost and andand she talks about this in the book,
how it's almost this to the pointof of of being religious, like
it's this, it's this religious thingwhere you say, like, oh,

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we don't understand it. We don'tunderstand the algorithm because it's beyond our understanding.
Even if we were to see thenuts and boltivate, we wouldn't understand.
It is too complex, it's toofar above us. And but it's
always going to be right because itis impartial. As you know, humans
are partial. And what one thingshe talks about in the book is that
is that the thing is that algorithmwas created by humans. And so what

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all that ends up happening is thatthey take whatever biases they have, the
creators have, and they bake itinto the algorithm, and then they just
multiply that. So this thing that'ssupposed to be impartial actually is not.
And it's certainly far from perfect.But we're taking these these algorithms and we're
putting them in charge of hiring andfiring, or putting them in charge of
making decisions of whether or not someoneshould get alone, and so on and
so forth, and these these biglife decisions are no longer being made by

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humans, and we assume that thesethese these creations of ours are smarter than
we are. Um when they're not, and they're we're not, we're not
allowed to scrutinize them. It's avery dangerous thing because because we're giving them
all this power and there's no checkor balance against that power. YEA,
something that's going on a lot inthe United States right now. You know,
when it comes to fantasy novels,a lot of times there is no

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difference between the fantasy and the realitybecause a lot of times something can be
created as a fantasy, but wecan start to see it play itself out
in reality. And a good exampleof that, and I want to get
your thoughts on this is the novelof The Hunger Games that was turned into
a movie. Now based on myresearch for the past twenty years, much

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of what is written in The HungerGames, that it goes more in depth
than what the actual movie shows,is actually starting to play itself out,
especially when it comes to taking everythingyou possibly can from the people and creating
a very poor part of society andcreating a very elite highest society and not
any no middleman, no middle class. It's just extreme poverty and all that

(39:52):
being controlled and being sectioned off intodistricts like it is in the Hunger Games.
And then of course the wealthy peopleget to travel do certain things that
the poor people don't. So theseare actual things as far as government agenda
here in the United States and inother parts of Western civilization where they have
these agendas in place written on paper, as far as sectioning zones and districts.

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And then you're also starting to seeright now presently where they're contaminating the
air, and allegedly the purpose forthat is that there's going to be certain
areas of the United States and ofWestern civilization when it comes to Canada Mexico
that are going to be inhabitable,uninhabitable where we won't be able to live
there. You have these things calledsmart cities that are now starting to take

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place. So when I think aboutthe Hunger Games, it's all coming into
alignment with reality. Something that waswritten as a fantasy and was a nice
epic saga of fantasy literature is nowbecoming slowly but surely a reality here,
especially in the United States. SoI want them to get your take on
that where sometimes the line between realityand and and or should we say fiction

(41:04):
fantasy is it's kind of meshed intogether to where we actually start to experience
the fantasy and then the reality becomesmore fantasy and the fantasy becomes more reality.
Well yeah, and and and that'syou know, that's the scary thing
when you start to see when youstart to see, um, the certain
elements of dystopian stories becoming real.You know. And unfortunately I haven't actually

(41:25):
read hundred Hungry Games and I sawthe films. Um, I'm sure the
books are great. I haven't rhythmyet. Um, but uh but but
yeah, and and and when youI know, likee one time I I
told a friend that I really likefahnhyp four fifty one. I said,
and A said, it is avery accurate portrayal of what's happening in the
world. And my friend was like, well, that's ridiculous. Nobody's trying
to ban all books. And that'sthe thing. He didn't really understand what

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I was saying, like, like, I don't actually I'm not saying that
it's you know, what happened infair hy four fifty one, that exact
story is going to happen, andit's like you're you're you're not saying that
the Hunger Games is going to happen, but what you're saying is the general
philosophical argument that's being made. It'spretty accurate. Well, let's say this,
when it comes to the Agenda twentyone documentation, it really looks no

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different than what they show you inHungry Games, especially while it comes to
these zones, because they are buildingtechnology for these major railways to transport people,
which is called these super bullet trainsthat would trans people to certain districts,
and the districts are zoned. Thisis actual reality, So this is

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actually documented government documents that in theUnited States that you're going to have a
zone like here where I'm at inFlorida, which would be the southeast,
and then you have a zone inthe northeast, and then you would have
a zone in the north and midwest. You would have about a couple of
zones in the West coast. Sothis is actual documented stuff that they're working
towards, especially when it comes tothe seventeen sustainable goals that they have in

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place, which are all in alignmentof this Agenda twenty one also known as
Agenda twenty thirty. It's consolidating thepeople into certain districts and having complete and
utter control of everything they do,from the way they spend money, which
right now they have this thing calledfed now, which is fed link,
which they want to do away withPayPal, cash app and all these other

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ways and have us literally make paymentsthrough one governed system. This is real
stuff that's happening right now and beingput into place. So this type of
stuff is not so much fantasy nowbecause these are real people with real power
putting these initiatives in place to beyou know, made a reality here,

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especially here in the US, We'restarting to see it a lot. And
COVID really propelled a lot of thatstuff, right. So that's why I'm
bringing this conversation up because all thesethings are really happening. So what I
am saying is they, yes,the stuff is happening. They are having
a hunger game scenario start to playit self out in increments. And I

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think that in in in resisting statismand resisting those who constantly seek power over
others, um in these tendencies,these these overstepped, these instances in which
people in power overstepped the boundaries ofwhat they should be able to do.
Um. I think that a bigmistake that people often make is to make
this about ideology and to act asif those people who are taking these actions

(44:23):
are trying to to advance some specificideology as opposed to other kinds of ideology
and when in reality, um,they don't really care about ideologies so much
as they just care about power,you know. Um. Oh, yeah,
it sounds like your your microphone wentout. Well while he while Ronald,
Uh, Ronald, by the way, I can't hear you. It

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sounds like your microphone went out fora second, so it's a mute right
now. I'm back. Okay,great, Sorry about that year. I
understand where you're coming from. Butyou know, Ronald, based on my
research, they are looking to controlthe world and they are hidden power.
Oh yeah, I definitely people peopleseek control. Yeah, look at the

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recently, I think it was sometimelast year, the Georgia guidestones were blown
up. Nobody knows how this happened. This is something that's been guarded for
quite some time. But in theGeorgia guidestones, right has all this Masonic
literature on it has Masonic symbolism.And the very first law or commandment of
these new laws and initiatives that wantto be put in place is lowered down

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the population on the five hundred millionto be completely controlled in all aspects.
So when you see stuff like that, and so wait, wait, so
she's saying the guidestones to go underfive and the guidestones were destroyed recently,
but these guidestones were up for morethan almost I would say about twenty years.
So who he said, We don'tknow who destroyed them. We don't

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know who destroyed them, but uh, we don't even know how they got
there. This is what's interesting isthat the government men doesn't know how it
got there, but yet it gotprotected from being destroyed, and just last
year it did get blown up.But when you think about these plans for
this alleged I have to say thisbecause this goes to YouTube, so I

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can't I don't want to get flagged. But for this alleged depopulation plan,
and you see something like a pandemicthat's taken millions of people's lives, and
you see all these other different initiativesby government to have this alleged depopulation plan
that's actually a reality. Now youhave to ask yourself, is there when

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you look at the Georgia guidlestones,is there some truth to this when it's
playing itself out that the powers thatshouldn't be are actually presenting this as a
positive thing. And I'll give youa perfect example. Bill Gates, for
the past fifteen years has been talkingabout how they were going to depopulate the
planet and how they were going tobe successful at it because they've been successful

(47:00):
at it through medicine. And thenhe talked about depopulating populations of human population
because there's too many people consuming theworld to do it through you know what
I call the science appliance, whichis those you know, those things that
people have been putting in their armsthat supposedly protect them from illness and sickness

(47:20):
and from dying. And this manhas publicly stated that doing that very thing
would bring down the population by twentyfive percent. So you have to ask
yourself if these are real initiatives thatare being put and have been successful.
And you look at something like theGeorgia guidestones, and also just the overwhelming
amount of evil that's been going onin the world where life human life is

(47:45):
not valued by the people that arein power. That has been proven time
and time again. I mean evenduring slavery. Slavery was a prime example
of how life, you know,didn't matter because people were being treated less
than cattle. So now we're herein well into the twenty first century,
and we're still seeing that play out. So this is what I was talking

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about when it comes to the HungerGames, is that something that is considered
fantasy is now becoming more of areality, and you can't really tell the
two from each other. And oneof the reasons that I write fantasy and
then people like fantasy, I think, and one of the advantages of fantasy
is that it allows us to takethings, take real issues, and put
them in a different setting, right, and that allows us to look at

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them with more objectivity. Yes,you know, like say, like when
you look him in the real world, you may be like, have the
tendency of going, well, Iwant to criticize people who belong to this
certain group advocate the certain thing.But my aunt is one of those people,
so I don't really want to dothat, you know, But when
you put it into a new settingwhere all those connections are fictional, then
you're able to you're more able tosee it for what it is, right,

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right, and and that being thecase, I think it's very important
to look at fiction, to totake fantasy science fiction, um as a
way of learning important lessons and seeingour reality for what it is. Um.
Humans are humans in all eras inan all settings, you know,
and if you see things and soif we see things playing out kind of
the way they did at Hunger Games, then the existence of Hunger Games helps

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us to more clearly understand what theproblems are, what the risks are,
and be able to address them.UM. Regarding what I said I said
before the about like ideologies that I'msure you know, some people, very
powerful people have ideologies. But insofaras they have ideologies, they're also there.
They also have conflicts with each other, ideological conflicts of the job,
but they will but they will stillwork together at times, you know,

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right, And then I mean,and as far as ideology, like I
think an example, the clearest exampleof what I'm talking about is like you
look at you know, of coursethis is cliche, but look at Adolf
Hitler, um, and you ask, like we was Adolf Hitler a Christian,
yes, but no, um inthe sense that like, yeah,
like he grew up in Christian environment. He came from that background, and
he was very much yeah, noproblem incorporating Christianity into his socio political narrative

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as much as possible. Why becausehe knew that the people he wanted to
influence were Christians. But at thesame time he expressed to people close to
him how much he wished that thatthat Europe had been or the Germany had
been a Muslim instead of Christian,because he felt that at least according to
him. There's this is a matterof debate, um, But according to
him, Islam was more a fitmore with his sociopolitical philosophy than Christianity.

(50:22):
Is So was he really a Christian? Like not really but yes, but
no. In the end, whathe was was he was Adolf Hitler,
and he was willing to use whateverideology though the lower people had, and
twist it to be whatever he wantedit to be. And and that's that's
what we see a lot. Ithink when you look at all of the
useful idiots, um, the peopleup high, the people in power,

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like they're willing to to champion whatevernarrative will get them what they want,
right, right. And you know, I was I was just talking about
how in my book is about classstruggle, and class struggle is a very
real thing. It's something that I'mconcerned with, it that the people should
be concerned with. But but youknow, I'm completely opposed to Marxism,
which is all about class struggle,right, um. And and Marxists have

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long been very happy to uh toto latch onto that onto class struggles.
And you see what they do whenMarxists are trying to get into power,
is they they inflame that they intentionally, they intentionally, um try to get
the different classes that they see moreand more opposed to each other. Why
because as long as they're fighting eachother, they aren't fighting the real enemy,

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right and uh And so that that'skind of what what I'm in by
like, by using ideology and people, the people who seek more power,
they're they're willing to use whatever ideologyis beneficial to them. They'll they'll poses
whatever you want. They'll be environmentalists, they'll be you know, um,
social conservatives, they'll be whatever theyneed to be to get more power.
And they'll they'll say whatever they needto say. And what we need to

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do is look past that and realizethat what's happening is that they're just putting
us against each other. And that'swhy when people ask me about my political
positions in the US, you know, I say, like, I'm anti
major party. That's what I am. I'm anti major party. I think
the my my main political position,um is I want election reform. We
need to change the way that weelect people. If songs we don't do
that, we will continue to havethese two major parties in power who advocate

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pay lips service to all all kindsof ideologies that sound great, but in
the end, that's not really whatthey care about. In the end,
what they care about is power,right, you know, And and that's
never they never followed through on theirlip service. Yeah yeah, like yeah.
They these problems that they talk aboutthey could solve a lot of the
time, but they don't because that'show they got elected and they don't know

(52:36):
how to get elected without those problems. So they want those problems to continue,
right, whether you talk about illegalimmigration, or environmental issues, or
or or or corruption and government.You know, people like like you know,
Hillary Clinton. I loved that HillaryClinton when she ran for president.
She wants, she want on stage. And she told us that that big
Pharmer is the enemy. She showus that superpacks are destroying our political system.

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She told us that Wall Street isdestroying the economy. And then what
does she do. She accepted moremoney than anyone else from Big Pharma,
from Wall Street, through superbacks,you know, and and her and I
would I bring this up with hersupporters and and they say like, oh,
but you know, she wasn't butshe wasn't influenced. But really,
why would they keep giving Democrats money? If Democrats are not being influenced by
their money? Right, why wouldthey? Why did they keep doing it

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year after year after year? Right? Um? And like I said,
I'm I'm not. I'm not.I'm not a Republican I used to be.
I'm not. I'm very much antimajor party because because I see this
and both parties do this, andand it needs to end. That's this
is the only way the only waywe can get anywhere is through election reform.
Well, let's let's let's talk aboutyour novel. Um. Let's talk
about Wild River that's available on Amazondot Com on their forward slash Wild Dash

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River New World Trilogy, and UMthat that that link would be in the
description box as well for all thelisteners. UM says, in a young
city thriving on their massive immigration andindustrial revolution, a seemingly in concert quenchial
factory worker who has gone missing,and it says when multiple influential people come

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to the investigator Bandess, who's themain character Bandis Riverman, and ask him
to find her, his investigation soonbecomes the focal point of a looming conflict
between powerful groups, and Bandis soondiscovers that he is not only is not
only with special powers that have longbeen hidden from the world. So can

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you talk a little bit about this, obviously not giving away the book,
because you know, we want peopleto read this book, but talk a
little bit about how you went fromthe prequel of this book being the Dnival
of the Wolfman, where it's kindof like BANDI discovering these powers and tapping
into them and starting to use themand get into this work of finding people

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like this serial killer, to goinginto now the novel that goes a little
bit more in depth about finding thisum, finding this woman and stuff.
So can you talk a little bitabout that, Yeah, so the novella,
you know, it's just totally focusedon Bonda's um but but you know
Din the Wolfman. But the novelum actually it brings in a number of

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other characters. And you see inthe setting, the setting is it's based
on you know, like I said, a mixture of New York and New
Orleans. And you have a numberof influential families who have gotten very rich
because of the development of this newcountry, this new continent. And in
the situation here in Wild River isdifferent from from the colonization of the Americas,
and that the colonizers got here andthere was no one here, but

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they found the ruins of a civilization, but that civilization was gone, there
were no natives. And so it'sin that in that sense, it was
it was different from from the colonizationof of the America's in our world.
Um, well, these so sothese people, you know, they they
created cities and they started started pushinginto the continent. And uh you have
these uh, these influential families thatare getting rich, but they're also um

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kind of at odds with each other, but they're also working together. Like
you have one family that owns mine, one family owns railroad, one family
that owns the docks, and youalso have this massive immigration coming into the
city, all these workers coming fromfrom across the sea, from the old
world, because you people just likewith you know, America, you have
people seeking opportunity, right and butthey come over here and it's and it's

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this very chaotic environment and unscrupulous peopleare They have a lot of opportunity to
build wealth and power, and sothey do. And Bondis becomes in the
center of this when multiple people cometo him want him to find this factory
worker who's gone gone missing, whoseemingly was in significant but for some reason,
you have these different powerful families whoare at odds with each other,

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who arrivals who wants to find her, and they don't tell him exactly why.
And as he goes and does this, he starts to discover more and
more about these families and about theforces that are at work, and also
about certain transnational organizations that are kindof operating in the shadows, trying to
drive the narrative and drive history ina certain direction. And uh, and

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he's discovering like the powers that arethat are commanded by these these people and
also he starts to discover, um, some of the secrets of the ancient
civilization that that existed before this wasmuch even much more magical than the one
that they have. UM. Theyhave certain great powers, UM that are
seemingly the source of their own destruction, and those powers are starting to you

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know that now these people from theold world are coming over and they're they're
seeking power, and they're trying tofind, um, the source of this
ancient power, not thinking that it'sa big deal that apparently that the natives
destroyed themselves with this ancient power,right, UM. And so yeah,
that this it's book. It's verymuch a discussion of of you know,
there's there's class struggle, there's UM. There's also the question of power,

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you know, seeking power, Whatcauses people to seek power? Where are
the dangers of seeking power? UM? And you know in all of this,
you know, maintaining a sense ofdignity and humanity and goodness when you're
caught up in struggles like this.So, UM, what what is the
UM? You know now that you'vehow long has it been since you've written
this this novel? Like, howlong has it been out for? I

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think it's almost two months now.Is there any new project that you have
in mind now that you've completed thistask of completing this novel. Do you
have another novel in mind or areyou gonna take Yea, I know,
I'm still writing. Yeah, I'veI've I've actually started writing. Um the
second. You know, this isa trilogy, and so there's a novel
that comes right after this one.It just picks up where this one leaves

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offense is going to be called theStill Army. There's still Army, the
still Army, like an army,like an army that is still you know.
Um and uh, it's a referenceto actually an army of golems.
And that's that's something that you thatyou you see in a little bit in
Wild River. Um, that's that'sgonna be the next novel in this trilogy.
I'm also working on another novel thathappens in the same world, but

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it's farther back. It's in itis in more of a a medieval period,
and it it's and it shows theorigins of some of the of one
of the royal sorry, one ofthe powerful families mentioned in Wild River,
and and and some of the andit also kind of shows the origin of
the overarching conflict because in this world, there's kind of a you know,
like with Marvel does with their movies, they have you know, villains in

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all the different movies. But thenbut then you know, Thanos was like
the big villain, right, I'vein a similar way, I have kind
of a big villain that you don'teven really see in Wild River. But
but that's going to be the riseof that villain is going to be hinted
at in this in this this otheruh, this other novel that I'm that
I'm going to be uh that I'mworking on right now. Sounds very interesting.
Um, what's the name of theworld or is there like a star

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system of this world where all thistakes place? Is their name for it?
So I don't have an actual namefor the world yet. I don't,
Um, I don't know yet.UM, we'll see. We might
give it a you know, I'msure that you know, just just like
as you know, we we justcalled our world Earth because dirt, you're
like, right, the in ourmoon is the moon, Like that's that's

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what we call it, you know. And they're you know there, they
have a similar tendency, right,and they're just like us. They at
this point in their history, they'renot thinking that much about other worlds,
and therefore their their world is notthe name of their world is not as
much of an important thing. Butyeah, I'll probably give it a name
at some point, but that nameis not in that specific name is not
given in Wild River yet. Okay, um, so before we wrap things

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up, I just wanted to umkind of see any if you wanted to
leave any the listeners of this showcalled The Power Storytelling with any final comments
and things that you want to leavethe listeners with on maybe why they want
to read these novels or anything elseyou want to discuss, and you can
take as long as you want.Stories. Storytelling is important. Stories are

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important. Humans are a storytelling species. And when you look back on our
history you see the people who exercisethe most power and who made the most
influence, We're almost always people whotold good stories. When you see you
know, I I have a digitalmarketing agency. I know about this.
Like like, if you want tosell something to people, you tell them
a good story, right, youwant to If you want people to do

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a certain thing, you need totell them a good story. It's not
enough to just tell people something thatis true, Right, you need to
make them feel it. Yes,And and story telling I mean and of
course that that allows you to exercisea certain power, right, and power
is not intrinsically good, it's notintrinsically bad. It's just it just is.
You can use it for good,you can use it for bad.
And storytellers telling us the same way. Um, Ideas are important and stories

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are the most powerful way of communicatingideas to people because because in the end
humans we have, we use logic, we use reasoning, but when we
actually make decisions, it's always primarilya matter of emotion. Our emotion our
and we talk about in business andmarketing, you know, when people buy,
it's always an emotional decision. Yeah, there can be certain logical arguments

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that are made, but it's alwaysan emotional decision in the end. Right.
And And good storytelling communicates ideas ina way in such a way that
those ideas will actually mean something topeople, right, And And we need
to understand that about ourselves, andwe didn't. We need to understand that
if we want to influence other people, we need to be good storytellers.
And also we need to realize thatanytime anyone is telling us a story,

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we are giving and we're listening tothat story, we're giving them the ability
to influence us. And this iswhy political narratives are created. This is
this is why, this is whypoliticians tell stories. It's because that allows
them to take high level ideas andmake them real to people. Right.
And as a storyteller, you know, there isn't there isn't this really a
specific narrative that I'm trying to pushin my in my stories. You know,

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I'm very political minded, politically mindedperson as you can tell. Um.
I think about political issues a lot, social issues and things. But
but in my stories, I'm notreally pushing a specific narrative. And I
don't start telling a story with anintention to teach a specific lesson. Um.
But I do hope that when peopleread my stories that they'll they'll be
better off for it, and theywill they'll feel enlightened, they'll feel edified,

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um, And that I will makea difference in their lives and means.
Like I said, dude, thatthe power to tell stories is the
power to change that. The onlyreal magic, the only real magic in
this world, comes from words andsymbols and the power that they have over
the human mind. And of coursethat's not really magic, but it's close
enough. Um, symbols are veryvery powerful, very powerful things, because

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when you see a symbol, thatconnects your mind to a whole set of
images and events that are connected tothat symbol, and that elicits certain certain
feelings and thoughts, and that willpropel you in a certain direction just from
seeing that symbol, right, Um, And yeah, in the end,
I hope that you know, again, when people when people read what I

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write, that they'll they'll be edifiedand that it will help them to deal
with life, to be able totake their their challenges, to take their
frustrations and put them, put themin kind of a controlled setting where they're
able to address them and where they'reable to to look at them for what
they are, look at them objectivelyand in that way. UM. I
see my stories hopefully as being ableto help people to improve their lives.

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Absolutely well. This uh, thisshow definitely very edifying for me, and
I hope that the listeners get alot of great substance from reading your books
that are available on Amazon and thelinks are going to be in the description
box. So Ronald, thank youagain and stick around for a moment while

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I end this broadcast on the powerof storytelling. So people, Ronald and
Kimmins fantasy novelists, definitely you canget the free novella den of a Wolfman
and you can get all his booksright, not just these, but get
all his books on Amazon. Thelinks will be available there as well as
his website. So, brothers andsisters, thank you for tuning in to

(01:04:53):
this bonus episode because we haven't startedseason six yet on the Network of Awareness
that'll be coming in the next month. I want to thank you for tuning
into this power story of storytelling.And when you live in the present,
there's always an opportunity for a newbeginning. And don't look for the light
at the end of the tunnel,because the light is and always will be

(01:05:14):
within you. So light up thattunnel and find your way through the darkness.
This is all the information lists,signing off with Ronald and Kimmins saying
peace, love the light, allpraises to the Most High, and until
we meet again, thank you.Nine