Crazy Spanko Talk with Dr. Eve

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Episode Transcript

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This is been Never too old fora Good Spanking Podcast. Put the hands
in front, stick that butt out, stick it out. Yes, sir,
I need, I need, Ineed, I need. Hey,

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everybody, welcome to another episode ofthe Never too Old for a Good Spanking
Podcast. I do have a guessat me tonight, and I'm not even
going to get into it. Everyone'sgonna know who this person is. I've
done a few shows with her already, and anytime I just want to talk
random spank. Oh shit, Icall in doctor Eve and here she is.

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Say hello to everyone, Doctor Eve. Hello everyone, thanks for having
me on again. Hey, haveyou gotten any emails asking if me and
you are dating? No? Ihave gotten a few, and a couple
of people just assumed that we weredating because they think that we have what
a sophisticate might call good chemistry.We do have good chemistry. But maybe

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the reason I haven't gotten any emailsis because they don't actually know how to
get in touch with me. We'venever given your contact info? No,
do you want to give anyone yourcontact info? No? Okay, well
then there you go. I don'teven know why you brought it up.
There's about thirty seconds of airtime thatwe can never get back. What's new

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with you anything, big? Well, I was in Florida recently. I've
never been so hot and spuddy inmy entire life. It is very,
very hot right now down here.I was working on my car yesterday.
I wanted to service it and Ihad to change a couple of the filters,
especially the in cabin air filter,the worst filter to change on some

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cars. And when I got donewith it, I was drenched, but
not my car is well. Idon't know if it's working any better,
but everything's changed. Yeah, Iwas in South Florida and I just stayed
inside the whole time. I couldn'tbear to be out there. It was
so beautiful over the winter here thatI can't really complain because this is kind
of like our winter. Although it'sjust hot out, that's right. Although

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I know that you've been busy lately, and I wonder how you've been so
busy in this heat. I wouldn'twant anybody all up in my business in
this heat. Well, what wehave here, which a lot of the
world might not have discovered yet,is we have air conditioning. So whenever
it's hot like this outside, webring the games indoors. I see,

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I see, but I believe thatI saw something on set life about you
keeping the games outdoors, perhaps aroundan alligator. Well, whenever someone stops
by for I don't know, alittle spanking fun. Usually if it's someone
new, I bring them to thisplace where I love to go see the
alligators in the wild, because I'mnot a big fan of going to see

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alligators when they're in captivity, becausethat's not fun for me. I want
to go to a place where thealligators can literally rip me apart. So
I brought a couple of girls thereover the last probably the last month,
And there's this one stretch of road. It's about two miles long, and
it's right near the end because it'slike a thirteen mile drive through that you

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go on where you could drive through, you can get out take pictures of
the alligators, and a lot ofpeople go there for bird watching. But
in a last mile or so,there's a long stretch of road where there's
not much of anything. I mean, you could still see gators there because
there is water there, but it'sa long straight away where I could see
people coming from behind me, andI could see the people in front of
me. It is the perfect placefor an outdoor spanking, and a couple

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of girls have recently filed that out. Did they get hot and sweaty?
Even more so than the usual,because usually when I go see the gators,
it's either early morning before it startsgetting hot out or right around sundown,
because that's when they'll start coming out. If I'm ever in your neck
of the woods, do me afavor and don't take me to the alligators

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because you don't like the alligators,or you don't want to spank it because
I don't like the alligators. Okay, all right, Well, you know
what we could do is we couldjust back in a mile at the end
there and I could just do itright there. We don't even have to
go see the alligators. Perfect.Have you been playing this powerball? No?
I haven't, have you I don'teven know what it is, not

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like eight hundred million dollars. Yeah, I could not even imagine. I'd
give you a little, doctor,I would give you a little I'm sure
you would. But serious question.Since we're in the fantasy land of winning
the power ball, Okay, let'ssay that you had four hundred million dollars

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that you want. How much wouldyou realistically give some like me, Because
you're a good friend of mine,I'd probably hand you at least a cool
five million dollars bill. That isso nice. That's one bill. I
just hand it to you. Hereyou go. I'd make the people who
run the whole economy make ten milliondollars bills. This is so it's just

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easier for people. Five million isvery generous. I appreciate that. That's
I mean, I owe it toyou for all the work you've done here
for this podcast and all the moneythat you brought into my life. I've
put in many hours of hard labor. As you know, I make about
twenty five dollars a month from thispodcast. Oh that's funny. Yeah,

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so in any given year, youknow, add it up. I'm not
going to do it right now,but it's not a lot. That's great.
So before we get into you know, the meat of this podcast,
which you have no idea what we'regoing to talk about today, and I
love of that fact because you're actuallyvery good on your feet. But I
get emails from girls that want tomeet and a lot of the girls that

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do meet me nowadays are usually travelingto Florida, and they usually stop by
for a day just to hang outand you know, maybe have a little
spanking fun. But I get alot of emails, and I know I've
said this before on the podcast,and I think I've said it on the
videos too. Whenever someone emails me, it's very hard to get into a

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long, in depth conversation with them. And I think it upsets people because
some people will say to me thatit seems like I don't want to talk
to them, and that's not trueat all. I want to talk to
people, and I like when peoplereach out. But it's really hard to
have total in depth conversations with everyonebecause I do get a lot of emails,

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and some people who email me regularlybut that I have never met,
it is really hard to keep trackof who even they are. I don't
get involved in a lot of bigconversations because I'm sending out a lot of
emails to people. And you know, of course I say this on the
podcast, and I don't want peopleto feel bad for me because I have

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these people emailing me and I reallycan't get back to all them with in
depth emails. And I feel veryfortunate that people actually want to talk to
me. But if I haven't metyou, it's really hard to keep track
of who I'm talking to. Ican understand that. I mean, the
first time that I emailed you,you know, you were very polite when
you wrote back, but you didn'tgive me very much, and I thought,

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he's just not interested in engaging.I don't even know how it progressed
from there, but it was hardto engage you. It was not the
easiest thing in the world, youknow, because I'm like a robot.
But look at us now, doctorEve. That's right. We're on like
our fifth podcast or something like that. Look at us now. But I

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just want to tell people out therethat it's not that I don't want to
converse with you and email back andforth, but it's just really tough because
when you send me an email andI don't know who you are, it
feels like I'm emailing you for thefirst time every time. And I'll just
add that some of these people shouldcount their blessings because guys, once you

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get him started talking, good luckstopping him. That's a fact. My
mother would. My mother would definitelyagree with you there, and so would
several of my friends. But anyway, anybody who emails me, you know,
don't feel like I'm being a jerkor I'm trying to blow you off.
But I just get a lot ofemails and it's just really hard keeping

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track of everyone. And I knowthat I say this all the time,
But if I had met you andI know who you are, I'm immediately
going to recognize your name on anemail. Or if someone texts me,
you know, immediately know who thatis because I've met them, I know
them. But not knowing these people, you know, I'm not saying send
me a bio of yourself with pictures, you know, although I gotta tell

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you that would help a lot.I could post them on my wall and
when I get an email, holdon, there she is. But but
it's just easier when I've known someoneand I met them. Even though we've
never met, but we've talked severaltimes now, it's as though we've met
and actually dated. That's right.So let's get into the bones of this

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podcast, all right. I'm excitedto find out what you've got in store.
I got quite a few interesting,fun stupid topics for you. My
favorite, I love the stupid onesin particular. All right, So here
we go. All right, Soyou've been on fet life before, right
I have. Have you ever triedto search for anything on fet life?

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I'm sure that I have, Butit's not so easy, right, Searching
on fet life is a pain inthe ass, Yes, it is.
It has every single fetish known toman and some that are not known to
man. So you try to findpeople specifically spankos, and it's really hard.

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You can't search by age range oryou want to search a geographical area.
Is very hard exactly because you couldsearch for an area, but you're
getting every single person that's in anyfetish out there, that's right, And
you also can't see who hasn't loggedin since two thousand and two. Right,
and half the people apparently live inAntarctica. I looked up Antarctica.

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Antarctica has less than five thousand peoplein their total population. They're all unfelt
like, they're all beautiful spankos.I don't know what it is in the
water in Antarctica, but they arejust all spankos. But as far as

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I read, they have less thanfive thousand people that actually live in Antarctica.
They are definitely all on set life. They are, and they're all
spankos, and they all seem tobe female. That's right. So here's
my question to you. How wouldyou go about creating the perfect spanko meeting

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or dating site? Okay, first, I think you need subcategories. In
addition to whether the person is dominantor submissive, spank or spank e,
you also need listing of the reasonsfor the spanking. So like I would
want a man who wants to givea spanking for disciplinary reasons, whereas your

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preference is a woman who just wantslike the fun, sexy, playful type
of spanking with an occasional disciplinary spankingexactly. So I think those categorizations,
like all of these very nuanced detailsthat we all latch onto, are important

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to sort of sift through all ofthe people to find a good match for
yourself. Can you imagine the largechecklist though that would be there because you
could list all of the things thatyou could think of when it comes to
being a spanko and spanking and youstill will never name them all. That's

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true. But then you can alsohave some fields that are free response,
you know, where like you couldask people, for example, what are
the buzzwords that you like and somebodycan put them in there, and then
if those buzzwords appeal to another person, then maybe there's a match here.
Have you ever done a real datingsite? Oh? I have plenty,

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and I did too, especially whenI first moved to Florida. Everyone out
there, you may have seen meif you were in Florida and we're on
a dating site. I did tryit, and I hated it. But
I think the biggest thing for anysite like this would be vetting, because
think about all the fakes that aregoing to come in if you say to

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people, and I would think especiallywomen, if you say you have to
prove that this is you. Thepeople that are really unsure about this,
they're going to be unsure about this, Yeah, because they don't want their
name out there. That's right,especially people with families or careers that are
everything could come tumbling down basically,right. But you also need to know

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that these people are real. Sohow do you do that and allow people
to remain anonymous other than a referencestype of thing. Obviously you don't have
to have your real information out therefor all to see, but there's got
to be something when you're signing upthat says this is me. But even
then, you know people are goingto be concerned about their information getting out

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there. I'm not on fet lifevery often, but aren't there like verified
members of fet life or am Imaking that up? I have never been
verified, but it still pops upand I just say, you know,
remind me again in however, manydays that seems to be one of the
biggest complaints that you hear about siteslike that is that you just never know

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who's real and who's not right.I think some kind of like a reference
system would probably be good. Soif you and I were on this site
and I reached out to you,or you reached out to me and you
said, here are my three references, and there are women who you've done
this with who I could then chatwith online or speak to on the phone,

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that would make me feel a lotbetter about meeting you in person.
Now. I don't want to reallybeat this to death because we can go
on and on about what ifs,but you know, there are definitely people
who will formulate email addresses and say, you know, contact these three people
and it's them that's true. Andthen if you go to where people can

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leave positive or negative feedback on someone. That could be a good thing,
and it could be a really badthing. That's true too, because you're
going to get the people who adoreyou and the people who hate you,
and nobody in the middle. Right, And this doesn't have to be a
dating site. It's just you know, for you to meet other spangles,
and it could be for dating two, which would obviously be another box you

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would check. So you'll have genuinepeople who are going to leave accurate reviews
for people to see. But thenyou're going to have those people that maybe
you did meet someone and maybe themeeting went okay, but now you didn't
want to see that person again,and some people are going to be a
little hurt about that, yep,and they'll take revenge out on you by

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leaving you an ask your review,right, And then all of a sudden,
now it's going to be held upto the person who's running this whole
thing to now hold court in session. And that's ridiculous. I don't think
that you can have like a Yelpreview, a Scalpe review, or whatever
you want to know. I don'tthink I don't think you can have that.

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But right now, we meet upwith people not really knowing if they're
safe, if they're sane, ifthey're normal or not, and it's up
to us to create safe situations wherewe meet them in public and we got
to know them before we do anythingwith them. So I guess this would
really be no different, But itwould be nice if there were some way
to vet people. Wouldn't it begreat if you could meet someone for the

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first time and only be nervous thatyou're meeting a spanko and not be nervous
that you're meeting a killer. Yes, definitely. In terms of the other
stuff, like the categories that youwould check off and all that, what
would you put in there? Prettymuch the way you described me before is
that I just like fun spankings withsome discipline and thrown in here and there,

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and I am really really big onbutt rubbing. I really love to
massage and nice butt. I thinkit would also be helpful to know like
how central this is to someone's lifeand or sexuality. True, there are
some people who like it's do ordie, like they need this, and

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then there are other people who,Okay, it's just a fun little pastime,
but they're also capable of feeling totallyfulfilled in a non spanko relationship,
and there's nothing wrong with either one, but it's informative and helpful for the
person to know. Or this isgoing to be a big checklist, because
you're right because a lot of peoplethat I have interviewed, some of them
their sexuality is basically like they wouldidentify as spanko because they don't have regular

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sex. Yeah, it's almost likea sexual orientation. This is the crux
of their sexuality, which is fine, but if you are that person,
you want somebody else who also islike that. Otherwise somebody's going to feel
frustrated over time. It would beawesome to have a site like this,
but I think that it would besuch a headache whenever you have come down

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to it, because there's just somuch and I really do think that women
are going to be less likely tosign up if they have to give any
personal info just to prove that they'rethem. Definitely. The other model that
you could have is almost like amatch making model, where everybody's got a
profile and then you have a groupof people who are the matchmakers who get

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to know let's say it's small Let'ssay you've got a hundred members and you've
got ten matchmakers, right, andI'm a matchmaker, and I reach out
and speak to the guys and thewomen, and then I start trying to
match them up. And that waythere is some central person who is almost
doing some of the vetting for you. The problem is, if you're a
member of the site, you haveto actually trust that person to keep all

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of your information competential. That's alot of work for that mediator. It's
a lot of work, but itdoes increase the quality control side of things.
You'll never be able to vet everyone, and there's always going to be
people that are out there that aregoing to try to scam or they're just
gonna be jerks, because that's justpeople. But really, when it comes

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down to it, all fet lifehas to do is let us do a
search for just spankos, it's true, and geographical regions. Yeah, it
would be so perfect if you couldjust not even an advanced search, just
my county or whatever and maybe theages that I'm looking for and just the

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fetish Because there's some philosophical reason whythey haven't done it, or is it
it can't be a technological reason,because every dating site, not that fet
life is a dating site, butevery dating site out there allows you to
sort buy location, so it can'tbe that hard. Someone told me that
it's because they never wanted to beknown as a dating site. Oh,

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but it's kind of a hookup site. You know, you're kind of on
there to meet people, so theymight as well make it easier for people
to meet people. It just doesseem weird that you can't divide people by
the fetish, especially the fetish right. I guess the only way to really
do it is to what do theyhave, like those are they groups or

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what are they called? On fetlifegroups? They have groups, so I
guess you just have to look forpeople that way. But I don't really
think that most people are active inthose groups, right, And I think
because of the search engines in howthey don't actually have search engines. It
just seems that a lot of peoplecome to fetlife, they'll make a profile

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and then they'll just disappear. BecauseI've searched by location where you could go
up and I could put Daytona Beachand I could go to that location Daytona
Beach, And of course now youhave to go down every single profile from
Daytona Beach just to find a spanko. You know what I think we should
do? What I think we shouldcontact fet life, file a complaint and

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demand a refund. Demand a refundfrom never paying a dime for it.
Well, I guess we could try, and then we would be known as
the jerks. So we're gonna geton from that topic. There's a common
question that I get in emails,and it's a common question that I'll get

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from people, but it's a strangequestion. They'll ask me, how did
you get into spanking? Oh?No, no, no, no,
no, You're just born that wayand yeah. See Now I usually say
to them, well, probably justlike you, I've always known I've been
into it. But there are definitelypeople that I have met along the way,

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especially back before I started getting onthese fetish and spanking site, just
vanilla people that don't have any fetishthat I knew of, that let me
spank them and actually really enjoyed thespanking and maybe even carried it on in
their life with their next boyfriend.I don't know. I never really asked
many of them. Some of themI have run into and I know a

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couple of them did get spanked afterI spank them. But if you are
one of those people who I hadmet along the way, or anybody has
met along the way and introduced themthe spanking, maybe they really liked it
and they did want to pursue itin another relationship, as well as whatever
else they like to pursue. ButI think the difference between us who have

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known this forever and the people whohave picked it up along the way,
they will never quite understand what it'slike to really be a spanko. When
I was in graduate school, Iconnected with a man who lived in New
York City and he had never inhis life even thought of spanking a woman.

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Then in his thirties, he wasdating a girl and she sat him
down one day and explained to himthat this was what she really wanted,
and she wanted it for discipline,and he was like, WHOA, I
don't know about hitting you. Youknow the typical story. Is it your
story? Eve? No? Andhe ended up doing it just to make
her happy, and he became atotal spanko. Where After that relationship,

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he couldn't go back wow, andhe needed a woman who needed to be
spanked for discipline. That's the onlyperson I've ever met with that story,
and I thought it was fascinating becauseI was always under the impression that if
you weren't born this way, youweren't going to need it at that like
deep level. He needed it ata deep level. So he's got to

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be an exception. Because even girlsthat I spanked for years in relationships that
were not spancos, they didn't needit, but they liked it. Yeah,
I would wake up in the morningand crave giving a spanking, where
I don't think that they woke upin the morning and said, boy,
I could really use a spanking rightnow. I think that more along the

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lines with those girls that were vanillas. They're like, I could really use
some intimate attention, and I knowhe's not going to turn me down on
a spanking. Well. I've alsoencountered kind of the flip story. I
was with someone for a while,we remained good friends. He's probably listening
to this podcast right now, andhe was dating a girl after me.

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They ended up getting married. He'svery happy in his marriage. Sounds like
a lovely, lovely marriage, andnow that they've been married for several years
and they have a child. He'stold me she just doesn't need it the
way she once did, right andthe way he does. That doesn't mean
that the relationship isn't good, butthere is that slight disconnect in terms of

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how much each of them needs it. Even though I believe she started out
really having that deep need. Wow, so she just totally grew out of
spanking kind of. I mean,I think she still enjoys it and they
still do it. I think hejust needs it more than she does.
I could say that over the yearsI have needed it less. Yeah,

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I've waxed and waned. There willbe like a couple of years where I
need it less and then a yearor two where it's like all I can
think of, and it just seemsto come and go. And maybe it's
like hormonal changes or something, butit waxes and wanes for me. I
have definitely been very spoiled, andI've noticed that when I have a plethora

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of people to spank, I don'twant it as much, and then when
I don't have that plethora, nowI want it again. I think that
there's like a happy medium where youhave access to it, but it's not
super easy to get. That's likepeak interest because they still have to put

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in some effort to get it.But it's available so you can actually get
it. And I think that's probablylike the ideal place to be. That
would be absolutely perfect, And I'msure everyone would love to be right there,
including me. I would love tobe right there, right now,
where I'm getting it exactly how muchI want or how much I don't want.
I want it to be absolutely perfect, and I'm sure everyone does.

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Yeah, I'm sure someone out thereis living like the dream life. I
think a lot of women can probablyget it fairly easily if they'd know someone
who's into it, and then theykind of control the progress and the frequency.
But the perfect life would be Ithink both of them wanting it equally.

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I totally understand what you're saying thata woman could do this way easier
than a guy can. Yeah.All a woman really has to do from
stuff I've heard out there, it'sput a blank profile on fetlife or spanking
tube and she will get on stopemails, nothing. All it has to
say is she's female. I canconfirm that. That is random question for

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you. Yeah, I know thatmarriage maybe is not your top priority.
But let's say that you were marriedto a woman who is a spanko.
Okay, how often do you thinkyou would want to spank herved On average?
It goes in waves like there's sometimeswhen I just want to put you
over my knee and spank and rubyour butt for hour, hour and a

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half. I just want to havefun and do that. And then there's
times where I kind of just wantto sit there and watch a movie.
You know. Yeah, it reallyfluctuates. I think, just like everyone
back when I was in my twenties, thirties, even young forties, if
one of these non spanko girls couldactually see the movie that's going on inside

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my mind or what's going on insidemy mind, I think they would be
like, oh my god, that'sall this guy thinks about. You know,
just getting back to what I wastalking about before before I continue on
with your answer, I think thatsomeone who is interested in spanking because they
were introduced to it, I don'tthink they'll ever crave it like we do.

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Although you do know that one guywho really became kind of a spanko.
But I think that a lot ofthem, yes, they may like
the feeling of it. They maylike the feeling of being restrained and you
know, like kind of put intheir place, so to speak. But
I don't think in their head they'llever really understand what it's like to be
like a true spanko or what weactually think about all the time. I

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would be interested in hearing from peoplewho came into it because they dated somebody
who was into it, how itprogressed for them, and how their interest
may differ or look similar to someonewho has been in it as a lifer.
That would be a good guest foryou to have on I would love

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to context some of my ex girlfriendsthat I had when I was in my
teens and twenties and talk to them, But then they would know I have
a podcast, and then you neverknow who else might find out I have
this podcast. That's right, Thatwould be awesome to talk to them,
but then some other people out herelistening might find out what I'm really all

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about. But to answer your question, I don't know. It does go
in waves. And you know,I have a friend that's down here now
and she comes over once twice aweek, and sometimes the day she's not
coming over, I want to givea spanking. Then the day she does
come over, not as much,but because she's coming over, you know,

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I know she really wants a spanking. So of course I suffer from
my soup like the soup Nazi,and I will give her that spanking.
Right, all right, let's moveon to the next topic, unless you
have anything else you want to sayabout that. Nope, I'm good.
Growing up, did you play sports? I did not, not at all.

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No, I was terrible. Itried here and there, but I
was more a stay home and playthe piano kind of girl. Okay,
well, they don't really do thisin piano. But I'm going to ask
you a question and then I'm goingto explain a little bit, So don't
answer the question until I explain.Okay, do you think that spanking in
sports is sending mixed messages? NowI told you, let me explain.

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I just hum. Okay. So, back when I was growing up,
spanking is a bad thing when Ido something wrong, and overall, nowadays,
obviously spanking kids is taboo, butyou know, when I was younger,
it wasn't. So when I gota spanking when I was younger,
that means I did something wrong.But when you're playing sports, when you

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do something good, what happens toyou. You get a smack on the
butt, You get a smack onthe button, sometimes several depending on how
many teammates want to come and congratulateyou on whatever you did. Even the
coaches back in the day would delivera smack on the butt really, oh
plenty of times. But I don'tthink they do that as much anymore because

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of you know, all the stuffthat's going on out there. Yeah,
but as a kid knowing that whenI get a spanking, I've done something
wrong, don't you think that spankingand sports might make it a little confusing
for a little mind like mine wasback then. But there's context, right.

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You could also have a parent whogives you like a little snack on
the butt in a playful way.Interesting or no, but not because you're
in trouble as a kid, butbecause you know you're being cute, they're
giving you a hug or being reallycute and they kind of just smack your
butt a little bit lightly. Andthat's just a different context. So you

(32:01):
know that the emotion in the situationis very different, And I think kids
can distinguish between when they're in troubleand someone is just being playful with them.
Well, what about if I wasin school and the English teacher.
I'll just use an English teacher becauseI had a very very attractive English teacher
when I was in eighth grade.And let's just say she stands at the

(32:23):
front of the class and she's goingthrough the tests, and she calls you
up one by one to receive yourtest, and she gives you that test
and you look at it and there'san A on the top of that test.
As I'm walking away, that verysexy English teacher gives me a pop
on the ass, like, youknow, you did good, son,

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But not really, son, AmI now supposed to be like? She's
just congratulating me, not punishing me. Well, I think the difference is
that sports are inherently physical, soit makes more sense for your coach or
a teammate to be physical with you. English class is not inherently physical,
so for someone to put hands onyou is all of a sudden surprising.

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You realize that this whole topic thatI'm talking to you about is just a
ridiculous way to talk about spanking.I know you love women's softball, Yes,
absolutely love it. And you knowwhat, if volleyball wasn't so boring
to me, I would watch thatmore often too, because it is like

(33:30):
a spanking frenzy. In volleyball,you lose the point. Let's meet in
the middle, let's smack butts.You get the point. Let's meet in
the middle and let's smack butts.But softball, yes, I do enjoy
the butt slap, and I doenjoy the cute girls in the uniforms.
But I think these girls are freakinggreat. I cannot play like these girls

(33:52):
play. I never was as goodas these girls. But is there any
other activity in the world where abutt slap is normal and like socially acceptable,
Like somebody plays in the symphony whenthey get up, the conductor doesn't
smack him on the butt. Whynot, because it's so dignified. Where

(34:19):
do you think it actually came from? Who do you think said for the
first time? You know what,next time someone gets a good hit or
does something good, I'm gonna smackhim on the butt. That's an interesting
question. That is an interesting questionbecause it's You're right, it's kind of
like the opposite of what you wouldexpect to happen. Your video from a

(34:40):
long time ago, Sarah, Okay, wasn't she an athlete? Hockey player?
Hockey? Yes? And you knowif she got snacked on the butt
during hockey, you know what,I may have to do a where Are
They Now? Podcasts where I takelike ten minutes or five minutes per person
and just ask him these questions thatI've thought about or that, like you

(35:01):
just brought up one. But I'llbe listening to a podcasts and I'll be
like, you know what, Ijust missed an opportunity for a great question
there. But I'm not a professionalinterviewer because I'm thinking of what I'm going
to say next, and sometimes I'mnot really even listening to the full answer
of the other person. So Imiss a lot of great opportunities. And

(35:22):
I'm sure people notice that, butthey also must know I am not a
professional interviewer. All right, Solet's go on to the next subject,
all right, Computers and cell phones. They really haven't been around for a

(35:42):
real long time. Back when theyweren't around, like, there was no
computers, there was no cell phones. All we had was the rotary phones.
Let's go back to that time andlet's just say we did have this
stuff. And this is back inthe day when spanking was a thing.
It was not frowned upon like itis today from parents and stuff like that.

(36:07):
So just think about how texts andsocial media posts would have been so
much different if all of this stuffwas around back then when I was growing
up and when you were growing upand other spankos out there who are in
our age rage Oh my gosh.Think about like the stories that I had

(36:28):
in my books, the newspaper articles, think about the court ordered punishments,
police spankings, and many parental spankings. And nowadays, as you know,
people whip out those cameras, youknow, like they're six gun shooters from
the Old West, and they willhave that thing videotaping. I actually think
that they get those cameras out beforethey even know the event's going to happen,

(36:51):
because this is how much they capture. But think about the posts that
you would get on Facebook and Twitterand Instagram and stuff like that, And
think about the text messages that peoplewould exchange back and forth, and how
much different they would have been hadwe had all this stuff back then.
First of all, Twitter and YouTubewould have so many videos of spankings,

(37:15):
it would be ridiculous. Oh mygod, you're in the local park,
you're with your parents, you didsomething wrong, spanking. Here, you
are walking down the street, yougot out of line, spanking. You're
in church right there in the pewspanking. And it might not even be
the primary thing being shown. Likeit could be some kid's birthday party and

(37:37):
in the background you've got some parentsspanking a kid because he stepped out of
line, right, and then fiveminutes later the birthday boy or girls getting
a spanking. Exactly. Let mejust give you a few examples of how
things might be different had this beenaround back in the day when spanking was
a little more acceptable. All right, So remember Jenny Maxwell from Blue Hawaii,

(38:00):
the Elvis movie. I've seen theclip, but I've never seen the
whole movie. Back in the day, we didn't have VCRs at that time,
so I had to watch the movie. But let's just say Jenny Maxwell,
she's working on the set of BlueHawaii with Elvis, and towards the

(38:20):
end of that day, when she'sdoing that spanking scene, she takes to
Twitter and she puts out there,I just spent part of my day getting
spanked by Elvis dot dot dot thirteentakes exclamation point, exclamation point, exclamation
point hashtag winning. I've seen peopletalk about this spanking scene on just regular

(38:46):
Facebook posts, and you'll see allthese women down the bottom saying I'd take
a spanking from Elvis. And ifyou rewound even more to like the nineteen
fifties, if you have like anis love lucy type of scenario, you
might have one housewife texting another housewifejust got spanked this morning. He's so

(39:07):
upset. It would just be likea regular thing or something like nothing says
love like a well deserved spanking fromhubby hashtag blessed. So let's just say
teachers back in the day, spankings, paddlings, switchings, yardstick whatever,

(39:28):
it was a regular thing. Soyou got this teacher on a Friday,
it's three o'clock, she's done forthe day, and here she is,
I broke my old paddling record thisweek. My arm is actually sore hashtag
tgif. And then she's got likeher little drinking emojis. And you know
how parents are constantly I see thisall the time. Someone will be like,

(39:53):
oh, you know, my poorkid is getting picked on at school,
and I'm like, you know it'snot going to help by you letting
everyone on Facebook know this. Youknow it's horrible that your kid is getting
picked on, but you don't needto embarrass them further. That's right,
Exactly, talk about this with yourfriends, but don't bring it to Facebook
so everyone knows. Yeah, soyou'll have some mom saying like, little

(40:15):
Johnny got spanked twice this week atschool, exactly to do how do I
manage him? Yeah? Or howabout even something like this, a mother
putting her little post on Facebook.I could see my mother doing something like
this, or back in the day, somebody learned that being in college does
not mean she's too old to spank. And maybe she puts her little biceps

(40:38):
emoji at the end, and everyonebelow it is like, oh, you
did good by her, mom,But she'll thank you someday. Mom,
Right, and you didn't say hername, but everyone now knows who you're
talking about. Everyone now knows thatthis college's daughter got a spanking. Or
you know how parents post videos offunny and cute things that their kids have

(40:59):
done. Yes, so a friendof mine, her little girl had hidden
something. Oh, my gosh,I can't remember what it was, but
it was so funny. But youcould totally see parents posting they go to
throw out the trash and they lookinside and like, there's the paddle in
the trash because the kids decided toget rid of it on their own.
That would be funny, and theywould post it and they take a picture

(41:21):
of it. That's right. Gladyou found it, mom, so you
could keep them in line. Butnow remember that story about the girl who
got sentenced in court to go tothe police department every day for three months.
Of course I do. Well,here's her friend just given her some
words of encouragement, wishing my bffluck on her first of three straight months

(41:45):
of spankings. Then she puts herlittle sad faced somemoji and then T T
y L bestie, And how aboutall the court ones smh, which means
shaking my head for people out there. I'm thirty four and the judge just
decided that the spanking my father gaveme recently was justified. FML. Court

(42:12):
TV has never looked so good.But just imagine how much different it would
have been when spankings were that acceptable. Oh my gosh, And how my
mother. Even now, I don'tpost much at all on Facebook, but
like my friends will post something,maybe they'll post a picture of us wherever

(42:34):
we are, and my mother alwayshas to chime in, you know,
and thank god she doesn't post You'renot too old for me to take over
my knee. But anyway, sowe're gonna move on from there because I
wanted to talk about the fifties Housewives. Yeah, I have this friend that
I talked to regularly. She's aspanko friend, one of my best spanko

(42:54):
friends. We regularly talk on thephone, we text all the time,
and we joke around a lot.Recently, we had this text exchange where
she said to me, I loveyou, and I said, I love
you too, but I'm still goingto spank you. And she jokingly texted
back, because you love me,and I laughed my ass off Because when

(43:22):
you think about these older movies,like these fifties housewives movies or these old
westerns, those older movies, spankingfrequently equated to love. Yes, indeed,
you would see one of the womengetting a spanking, and then she
realized because of some conversation either hewas saying to her while he was spanking

(43:45):
her or someone else was saying inthe background. She realized, wait a
second, he's doing this because heloves me. That's right, he cares,
and all of a sudden, maybea smile comes to their face and
they just now accept the spanking becausethey deserve it and they know it.
Yep. When she texted me that, I laughed my ass off, but

(44:08):
immediately made me think, this isa conversation I have to have with doctor
Eve. Well, you know what. You may not know this, this
is my preferred aesthetic. If youwill, Oh, I know that I
love the thought of nineteen fifties housewifespanking. I think it's so sexy.
I think it's so appealing to me. So I am all over this one.

(44:30):
This is great. You probably don'tremember this, but you may have
seen the scene before. But therewas a movie from nineteen forty five.
I've never seen the movie. I'vejust seen the scene, but it was
called Frontier Girl. I don't thinki've seen that one. Well, the
spank e in this one is avery attractive woman called Yvonne de Carlo and
she gets this relatively long spanking fromthis guy, Rod Cameron, and it's

(44:54):
in front of quite a few people, including their young daughter. She will
listen to him, so he takesher over his lap and he lays it
on pretty good as far as moviespankings go, and she carries on during
it and isn't very happy about what'sgoing on. Right when the spanking ends,
there's a short dialogue between the fatherand the daughter, and the daughter's

(45:17):
probably like eight years old, andI think that earlier in the movie from
what I've read, she also getsa spanking. I don't know if he
was on screen, I don't know. I've never seen the clip. So
she says to her father, Daddy, you spanked mama, And then he
goes, you're darned tout and Idid so. She goes, that means

(45:40):
you love her, and he saidthat's what I've been trying to tell her,
And all of a sudden, thewife's expression changes. She now realizes
that he gave her this juvenile punishmentin front of all all these people because

(46:01):
he loves her and it was forher own good. What's the name of
this movie again? Frontier girl.Oh, I'm gonna have to get this
one. She gets off his lap, happy and smiling. They hug and
kiss, and as far as Iknow, they live happily ever after.

(46:21):
Because the movie just fades out intothe end. I think bedroom life probably
got a little bit better too,I would imagine, So, I mean,
spanking makes my bedroom life a lotbetter. But think about all of
those themes. Even I love Lucy. He spanked Lucy because he loved her

(46:42):
exactly and it was always for herown good. And I agree because she
was very mettlesome. She was supermeddlesome. But think about if this was
the case now in Hollywood, ifspanking was still the same where spanking means
I love you. Just imagine ifsomeone like Forrest Gump laid down the law

(47:05):
earlier in the movie with jen aright, so Jena, she might have
fallen in love and it would havebeen maybe an hour long movie instead of
what was it like two and ahalf hours something like that. Let's use
another one something Maybe other people mightbe more able to relate to. What
if Jerry had spanked the Lane earlyin season one, they would have ended

(47:27):
up together. Seinfeld might not havegone nine seasons, or at least those
seasons would have been alot different.She would have gotten the flavor rugolof that
she was supposed to get. Thedidn't they once go out to a bakery
and if one of them wanted cinnamonrug laf and the other one wanted chocolate
rug laf. You know what,Rugoba Bobca. I'm like Rugola. I've

(47:54):
watched Seinfeld about fifty times through Bobca. You're right, You're right. A
guy in the flavor bok that asshe was supposed to get. There's another
Bopka. But yeah, yeah,I'm like rug alot. But think about
how different things would have been.Let's go to the office. What if
Jim had spanked Pam on the boozecruise. Let's be honest. Roy would

(48:17):
have probably gave him an ass kickingof Mamma's proportions. But would Pam had
fallen in love with Jim earlier?That is very funny. I'm envisioning in
the nineteen fifties the housewife bridge clubWhatsApp group. That's kind of harder,
yep. I know. We gota game plan for one night and then

(48:38):
one housewife has to pull out becauseall of a sudden she got in trouble
at home and her husband won't lether go to the game tonight. Well,
that's love, that's love. Yeahyeah. Can you think of a
modern show where someone needed a spankingWendy and Ozark all did Wendy Bird need

(49:01):
a spanking and a half? Sheneeded a spanking so badly. She was
out of control. She got everybodyin trouble, She got Marty in trouble.
She caused all these problems. Sheended up leading to the death of
a main character. I won't giveit away, but Wendy needed a spanking,
She needed to be kept in line. I would have died to see

(49:22):
Marty spank Ruth. Ruth was mouthy. She a spanking too. She would
have been like, what that factingI think you're doing? You know it
would It would have driven me crazy. But boy, would I have loved
to see Ruth get a spanking.Marty needed to spank quite a few people

(49:45):
on that show. Yes, andI would not have minded seeing him spank
his daughter. But only when shebecame of age, only the day she
turned eighteen. Yes, because I'mnot sure. Wasn't she eighteen when she
first came on the show? Wasn'tshe younger in the beginning? I'm not
sure, but definitely towards the endof the show, she was older.
Well that's what I mean then.All right, so I'm going to move

(50:10):
on from that subject unless you havesomething you want to say. I'm good
with the WhatsApp image. All right. I have an update. Remember that
story I was talking about Northwestern Universitywhere the college kids were told that if
they do one of ten different things, they could possibly be punished. Yes,

(50:34):
that's right. It was like thepsych experiment or something. It was
no psych experiment. That was theone where the guy was paying them to
get the results of like how theyfelt after during a spanking. All the
checks bounced. This one here waswhere the students were told that if you
commit one of these ten things,you will be punished with no less than

(50:57):
five spanks and no more than twentyfive. Yes, okay, I got
a little information because I think Ihad bare bones information at the time,
and I wanted to kind of tellyou a little update about this. Okay,
I have all ten issues. Ialso have who was giving the spankings
and it was not the college,it was the town. I guess the

(51:20):
people in town must have been complainingabout kids running a muck and they probably
brought it to the city board andthe Justice of the Peace. His name
was Max Willkower. He was theone that brought about this whole thing.
And if the boys were caught,they would be spanked by Officer Carl Xman.
If the girls were caught, theywould be spanked by Officer Georgiana Durrell.

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And here are the ten rules.So you got from five to twenty
five. I want you to giveme a rough estimate of how many spanks
they might get for these things.All right, let's hear it, all
right. The first one, don'twear seppy goloshes. Do you know what
goloshes are? Oh? I knowwhat goloshes are. Well, for those

(52:06):
people out there that don't know,there are a waterproof overshoe that you just
slip on. They're like rubber.You just slip them on over your shoe.
And like I said, they're typicallymade of rubber. Do you wear
them either in the rain or thesnow exactly? And I used to have
to wear them when I was ingrade school and I felt like an idiot.
But so the first one is don'twear sloppy gloshes. Knowing that five

(52:29):
was the minimum, and twenty fivewas the maximum. How many swats or
spanks do you think that someone wouldget for wearing sloppy gloshes. It's got
to be five, wouldn't it dependon how sloppy and like if they tracked
it all through a store, doyou think maybe they upped at the eight?
Well, but wait a second,is it about wearing the sloppy goloshes

(52:51):
or is it about wearing the sloppygoloshes indoors and tracking in snow and slush.
I would imagine it has to havesomething to do with that, because
who would care if you're outside.That's why you're wearing the goloshes because you
can get them sloppy so your shoesdon't get sloppy. I think this must
have something more to do with youtracking the stuff through stores or through school

(53:13):
or through any like building. Andthese are college kids away at school.
So if you're wearing the sloppy goloshesinto the student union and there's a beautiful
area rug and you ruin the arearug, then maybe we're at ten.
And that would also go for ifyou're in a place of business and you
did the same a rug. Yes, so you think in rug ten regular

(53:37):
floor five to seven. Yeah,okay, let's move on to the second
one. Oh, they don't giveyou an answer. I just wanted you
to give me your opinion. Gotit all right? Don't swear in public
unless twenty one or over. Well. I think that this would differ for
the men and the women. Sofor a man, I would put it

(53:59):
at five. For a woman,I would put it at twelve or thirteen.
I can understand what you're saying,where the women would get more because
they're supposed to be prim and properback in this time. This is nineteen
twenty two. Yeah, I thinkfive is too little for dropping an F
bomb in public. I think itdepends on who they're saying it around.
If they're saying it around another guy, I think you have less. If

(54:21):
they're saying it around the lady,I think you get more. What about
if they're saying in a public areawith a lot of people, Oh,
that might be adish. What doyou think would get someone ten in that
situation? I think a woman cursingaround other women would yield a ten,
whereas a woman cursing around men wouldyield more. That is interesting, though,

(54:44):
that you do think that females wouldget it worse. And you're probably
right, because they're supposed to bemore proper. Yeah, and you know
it affects their marriage ability. Itaffects so many things. When I was
younger, these are the girls Ilooked for. I wanted the girl that
swore. I wanted the girl thatliked to go out and party. I
didn't even mind the girls that smoked. If I don't really like cigarettes anymore,

(55:07):
I don't really like to smell ofcigarettes. But if I saw a
girl that smoked, she swore,she drank, I knew if I dated
this girl, I'm a respangter.I knew that that's probably true. All
right, let's move on to rulenumber three. Don't use cigarettes unless you're
twenty one or over. This isa lot I'm gonna say again. I

(55:30):
was about to say there might bea gender difference, but now I'm trying
to think. In the twenties,it wasn't as taboo to smoke as it
is today because they didn't actually knowhow bad it was for you. So
maybe it's less. Maybe it's likearound ten, I'm wondering what's going to
get twenty five. I think thatit would have to be something really illegal

(55:52):
and bad. We have seven morerules. One of these has to be
at twenty five. All right,okay, don't spoon in an automobile where
the public can see. Don't spoon. Yeah, that's probably making out.
If you're spooning in an automobile,you're probably having sex. At least as

(56:15):
we define spooning today, a lotof these are going to be where women
are probably going to get it harsherthan guys. Hold on, I just
googled. Okay. In the twentiethcentury, spooning came to refer to a
sexual position where a person has intercoursewith a person on their side from the
back. That is true, butyou could also spoon just by watching TV

(56:38):
the smaller person. Yes, we'lllay in front of you, and that's
how I define spooning. But inthe beginning of the twentieth century, it
was wait, is it actually havingsex or is it just the position?
If I was back in my twentiesor thirties, if you spoon with me,
we're probably having sex. Whether youhad your pants on or not,

(57:01):
it's going to eventually lead to sex. So we're operating under the assumption for
this example that it's not sex itself, but just the position. Yeah,
I would say this more goes withhugging and being intimate in an automobile.
Okay, So in that case,I think a woman would probably get like

(57:23):
fifteen wow, and a man mightget ten for doing it to a woman.
When I get done with these,I want you to tell me if
you think maybe one would have deservedtwenty five, because right now you're hearing
them one by one, you don'tknow how bad they get. Okay.
Number five. Don't get dormitory decorationsby stealing souvenirs. And what that means

(57:49):
is street signs, you know,maybe stuff from a bar where you're just
taking it off the wall. Nowit's on your wall and your dorm.
Well, this is theft. Itis theft. This one's got to be
more. I think the sexes wouldbe the same. I might put this
one at twenty because it's stealing.Wait till you hear the next one.
Okay, I'm gonna give you numbersix right now. Don't take someone else's

(58:13):
automobile for a joy ride. Thisisn't your friend's car unless you take your
friend's car without them knowing. Ajoy ride back in the day was considered
stealing a vehicle, taking it fora ride, and neither bringing it back
to where it was, or justleaving it somewhere, not necessarily trashing it
or anything, but basically just goingfor a joy ride in a vehicle.

(58:34):
It's not yours and you don't havepermission to use it. This one,
so far is the worst one,I would say, And I don't know
what the next ones look like,but this one might be the twenty five
for both women and men, Ithink. So okay, let's move on
to number seven. Don't fly rideon automobiles, which means sitting on the

(58:59):
running boards. No, not hitchhiking, just plopping yourself down as it's going
by, like on the running boardsthe radiator, or like in the tire
carrier, kind of like jumping ona train, but in an automobile.
Yeah, this one might be twentyfive. Now why would that be twenty
five? Because here you're actually endangeringyourself, but only yourself, that's true.

(59:22):
But when you take the car fora joy ride and you're returning it,
and at least you're not harming yourselfor anybody else. But in this
other situation, you could really gethurt, and these aren't really listed worst
to best, so you really don'tknow what's coming. Right. All right,
here's kind of something similar. Don'thook sleds on vehicles. I guess

(59:45):
that's either you're tying a sled toa vehicle and you're just driving around having
fun, or maybe you're on yoursled and you grab onto the bumper of
a vehicle. It's kind of thesame thing as before. You're putting yourself
in danger. Yeah, so Ithink it depends. If it's just hooking
a sled onto your car, that'sgot to be like a five. That's

(01:00:06):
nothing. Yeah, But that's hookinga slid onto a car and the person's
driving it and you're in the sled. So if you're actually in the sled,
then is it as bad as flyride? I don't see why it
be any different, because if you'rehooking a sled to the back of a
vehicle or you're just holding onto thebumper on your sled, it's pretty much

(01:00:27):
the same. If not worthy,I think you're right. I think you're
right, So I think whatever thefly ride gives you, if it's twenty
five, then the hooking the sledwould be the same. Okay, this
is probably the most severe one I'veseen on here. Ready, okay,
number nine, don't roller skate inthe downtown district. I really thought it

(01:00:54):
was going to be severe. Yeah, wait till you hear the next one.
Roller skating down town's got to bea five. I would think so
too. Maybe if you get caughtagain, maybe they'd give you a ten.
Yeah, this is so innocent.It's so funny. Some of these
are so specific. They're so specificbecause wait till you hear this next one.

(01:01:15):
And why it doesn't just pertain toeverything else. I have no idea,
but here's the next one. Don'tbe rowdy in an ice cream parlor.
Now, b rowdy in the generalstore, be rowdy at church,
be rowdy anywhere else, but donot do it at the ice cream parlor.

(01:01:37):
This is awesome that they probably wentdown to the fountain to get themselves
a nice root beer float. Ohgod, I'm gonna say that this is
like maybe a seven. Probably whathappened is that the owner of the ice
cream parlor complained to Northwestern University said, listen to your students are coming in

(01:02:00):
here and being rowdy. Don't youthink every single one of these things also
varies depending on what they were doingwhen this was happening. But who was
doing Let's just say this young ladywalks in, obviously under the age of
twenty one. She's wearing a veryfirm fitting pair of tight levies, and

(01:02:22):
she comes into the and she comesinto the ice cream parlor, and she's
swearing and causing a ruckus. Andthen on top of that, when the
guy kicks her out of the icecream parlor, she drops her pants and
moons everyone in the ice cream parlor, well, that's a twenty five,
and then walks out, flipping himthe bird. Of course that's at twenty

(01:02:45):
five without questions. Yes, contextmatters, but I'm envisioning a bunch of
girls and guys just being too rowdyin the ice cream parlor booten and holleran.
But wait, I didn't even finishwhat I was saying about this girl.
Before she came in, she flickedher cigarette and she walked on the

(01:03:07):
floor with her sloppy gloshes. Andhow did she get there? She took
an automobile for a joy ride.Yeah, and before she came in,
the guy that she took the automobile. Within the joy ride. She was
necking. Yeah, And at somepoint during that joy ride she had jumped
out on the hood of the carand was just riding along flaunting society's conventions.

(01:03:30):
And what did she do after shegot done walking out? Flipping off
the guy and she had her goloshesall muddy and everything. She took those
off, went right downtown and startedthe roller skate. Oh my gosh.
Do you think at that point theyare going to treat each crime individually?

(01:03:52):
Yes? I would think that she'sgoing to show up ten days in a
row and get twenty five swats each. I think you're right. I think
that's what she deserves. I thinkso too. But you know what,
the important part about that whole thingis they're doing it because they love her.
That's right. And unfortunately she's goingto have to let her friends in
the WhatsApp group know, and that'sgoing to be embarrassing. That's gonna be

(01:04:13):
embarrassing. But wait till her mothertakes to Facebook. Can you believe what
happened to my daughter today? Hashtagteenagers FML. So these rules also apply
to high school students and younger andparents can choose to give the spanking themselves
or to outsource it to the countysheriff that was Carl Xman or Georgiana Jurrell.

(01:04:39):
That's right, but I think thatthey would probably have to give it
in front of people so they actuallysee that the punishment was carried out.
I think you're right, and itneeds to be video recorded to prove that
it happened and then shown on televisionor TV NonStop. And now are all

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of these fully clothed the spankings,Yeah, they didn't get into that.
I'm assuming they were. If it'sthe parent doing it, who knows what
they're going to do exactly. Solet's just say that you were in college
at this time and this whole newcorporal punishment initiative is put into effect.
Do you join the protest with thestudents, because you know that they definitely

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will protest, especially nowadays, butyou know there's going to be a protest.
Or do you sign up to beon the student discipline Review board where
you will actually help decide if astudent will be punished and exactly how they
will be punished. Do I actuallyhave to pick one option because doctor Eve,

(01:05:45):
in her personality at the time,would have done neither really. Yeah,
I would think maybe you would jointhe protest but also join the board.
See. I would want to jointhe protest, but I would be
afraid of getting in trouble for joiningthe protest. So then I wouldn't join
the protest. Me too, Iwas so afraid of getting a spanking back

(01:06:06):
in the day, I would nothave joined this protest. All right,
I think I have a subject herethat will be near and dear to your
heart specifically. Okay, I'm goingto ask you a couple of questions.
Do you think that a spanking canrelieve stress? Absolutely? Do you think

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that a spanking could make you feelbetter? Absolutely? And I think that
a lot of people who are intothis, either giving or receiving, really
feel the same way. So whycan't spanking be an actual therapy, just
like psychologists or a psychiatrist or anykind of therapy, massage therapy. Why

(01:06:50):
can't spanking be along those same linesand be covered by insurance? Well,
now this is a fascinating question.This is therapy that takes a hands on
approach. Okay, so the spankoin me says, sign me up,
let's do it, and insurance shouldabsolutely pay for it. The evidence based

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psychologist in me who cares about ethicssays, no way. But massage also
is not recognized as a psychological intervention. But both of those could easily relieve
stress and make you feel better.I don't think it would be build as
a psychological intervention, but it seemsto me to fit more in the massage

(01:07:34):
therapy acupuncture therapy because it's more corporal. It has to do with the body,
and it's someone acting on you insome way. You know that people
out there do what they call spankingtherapy. Yes, but it would be
frowned upon if they ever brought itto the city council and said they would

(01:07:55):
like to be recognized as an actualtherapy. Right, But like I'm going
through the debate in my head,I could see the board saying no,
because you're causing people pain. We'renot going to license people to cause stressed
out people pain. And then theretort would be, well, massage causes
pain deep tissue, definitely, don't. Yeah, it's like a good pain.

(01:08:16):
It's a pain that helps your musclesrelax. So does therapy where they're
really getting into your head that causesa different kind of pain. That's true
if you treat like an anxiety disorder. You're exposing people to the things they're
afraid of, and that's very uncomfortablefor them. Can you imagine though,
if they did this, the certificationsyou would need every year just to keep

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up with your licensing, the continuingeducation credits would be something to behold well,
you know, just like there area massage therapy conventions and acupuncture conventions
and psychology conventions, there would bespanking conventions, which I'm pretty sure that
those already Yeah, they're just calledspanking parties. Let's just say that this

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is legitimate and it's now recognized,and it could also be covered by insurance
and everything like that. How muchdo you think a spanking session should cost?
How long is it? I wouldsay regular, like half hour or
hour. Maybe you do it infifteen minute increments, fifteen minutes, half

(01:09:23):
hour, forty five minutes hour.Just like you can go to a really
cheap place for a massage where alittle for a foot eleven Asian lady gets
on you and gives you the hardestmassage of your life, or you can
go to a fancy spa in thecheap place you're usually paying about a dollar

(01:09:43):
a minute in the fancy spa,you're paying usually like double that. Whenever
you're doing this, you'd have tosee people that are actually in you know,
the ones that will accept your insurance. Right, that's true. You
have to go in network or outof now, that's right. Didn't think
of the word in network. Andif you go out of network, you're
obviously going to be paying a lotmore. So I think like a thirty

(01:10:06):
minute session at a cheap place wouldbe probably thirty bucks, and a thirty
minute session at a fancy place thatcould actually go up to one hundred dollars,
because if it's really nice and thereis ambiance, and if you could
pick your a therapy room, isit set up like a schoolroom? Is
it set up like a bedroom?Is it set up like a kitchen?
You got some options there. Sowith all those options, do you think

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that you'd also be able to selecteither a fund spanking or a disciplinary spanking?
For sure? Would butt rubbing beincluded for an extra thirty bucks?
An up charge is what you're saying. There'd be an up charge for a
little button totally, an up charge, absolutely, And you know you could
have an ala carte menu where youget scolding, you can get standing in

(01:10:48):
the corner, you could get allkinds of add ons. Have you ever
done medical training? No, Whenyou do medical training like MRT EMT,
paramedic or even is basic First Aidor basic CPR. Whenever you do these
classes, you then have to showin a practical demonstration that you know what

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you're doing. Oh yes, Iwould love to be that guy in that
testing area judging them on their abilityto do So. That's an excellent idea
because you now have to bring inthese outsiders to take these spankings. It's
a field test, right, Andwhat I'm going to do, because I
have a lot of female friends outthere who would enjoy a spanking, I'm

(01:11:33):
going to hire them and I'm goingto bring them in and they're just going
to get spanked all day by thesepeople looking for certifications. So you're not
going to do like the CTR dummy. So I'm going to give them a
rubber ass No, because with theCPR dummy, yes, they do interact
with them, but they're always unconsciouswith of spanking. They have to interact

(01:11:57):
with them personally, that's true,and then they have to be regulations if
the person is begging you to stop. Do you actually stop? What if
a person doesn't want to use asafe word? The patient, the client,
whatever you want to call them.In the MRT training and the EMT
training that I did back when Iwas a firefighter, they would throw situations

(01:12:18):
at you to try to throw youoff. So that's what we would do
in the spanking thing. Maybe someone'sbeing a little maybe they're being more aggressive
than they should be. Maybe they'reasking for things they are not going to
get, but they're trying to pushfor more. The person doing the spanking
needs to know how to quell thoseadvances. And you know how when you

(01:12:43):
go for a massage, you haveto sign this whole release thing, right,
You would also have to sign arelease for the spanking therapy that details
all the rules. The spanking therapistwill end the session if you do X,
Y or Z. I think thatthis thing would be the size of
a more Orge. It would belike they'd be turning and you just have
the little yellow marks like sign here, sign here, sign here, and

(01:13:08):
sign right. They could have putanything in there. I may now owe
someone my life. At some pointI turned sixty and my real estate agent's
going to contact me and say,hey, by the way, I need
your heart. All right, showyou where you sign once upon a time.
So let's move on from spanking therapy. Okay, So you have pet

(01:13:30):
peeves, right, Yes they do, and these are behaviors. They're not
illegal, but they are annoying sometimes. Yeah, and it could be pretty
much anything. What someone else's petpeeve may not be yours and may not
even bother you at all, butpet peeves do bother people. Like one
of my biggest pet peeves, andeveryone knows it is I don't like someone

(01:13:51):
who's late all the time. Yep. This world is crazy as it is.
Right now, let's just say thatall of a sudden, it's totally
legal for people to be punished becausethey have offended someone with their pet peeved.
Sounds like the society we're living intoday. What do you think you

(01:14:13):
do that is annoying to other people? Oh gosh, okay. So I'm
very aware of it and I trynot to do it. I think sometimes
I'm a little bit know it all. I think we all am and all
correct people factually, which nobody enjoys. So I really really try not to
do it. But my impulse isto do it, and I know that

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sometimes I do. So if youhad annoyed someone with that they hate know
it alls, would you be totallyokay with receiving a spanking for that?
Yes? I would. What aresome things that bother the hell out of
you that you wish you could notthat you have to give them a spanking,
but you could. Let's just saythe behavior police will come out and

(01:14:57):
hand out to merits to people andwhen they hit certain limit, then their
ass is grass and daddy or mommy, justice is the lawnmower. Let's just
say that's happening in the world rightnow. What is something that people do
regularly that you would love to seethem be punished for? Instead of saying
the word height, some people sayheight and it drives me up the freaking

(01:15:21):
wall. That is very picky.That would not bother me at all.
I hear people butchering the English language. I even do it myself. That
would not bother me at all,But inside I do cringe a little sometimes.
Yeah, I would not think thatdeserves a spanking. Oh, I
think it deserves a big one.I would think more along the lines of

(01:15:43):
riding in the left lane when you'regoing the speed limit or below. I
would say those cars that are drivingbelow the speed limit and then all of
a sudden, the light turns yellowand somehow they found the gas pedal and
they make it through the light,But the rest of us don't. You
know. It also really gets me. What else you know when two lanes
have to merge into one, soI call it a zipper method. You

(01:16:06):
know, a car on left goesand then a car on the right,
and then left and then right.Everybody's got to follow this rule, and
when somebody doesn't follow the rule,it's really annoying and they deserve a spanking.
What about the guy or girl whenyou see that there's a merge up
ahead, you should try to mergeas soon as possible. But you always
have that person that wants to gettwenty cars ahead of everyone, so they

(01:16:30):
will go to the end of themerge awful. They should get double,
they should get triple. What aboutwhen people are shopping and they have their
cart on one side of the aisle, but they're shopping on the other,
and they almost seem annoyed when yousay, excuse me, terrible. How

(01:16:51):
about when you have two people shoppingtogether, and they both have carts and
they're walking side by side down theaisle or in a very busy city,
entire families walking on the sidewalk,one next to the other, so that
you've got five people taking up theentire sidewalk, and then a bunch of
people who have to get to workwho can't get past the family, and

(01:17:12):
then all of a sudden they'll juststop and look at something that's right,
and you almost rear reendom. SoI have a very good friend and she's
always running late for everything. She'sa lawyer, and she got this huge
promotion. She made partner at thishuge law firm and it was a big
deal. And I said to her, I want to host a dinner in
your honor. This is a hugedeal. So I said, tell me

(01:17:33):
who you want me to invite,and I'll invite them and I'll make dinner.
So I made this lovely meal.They're eight of us total. She
was an hour and a half late, Oh my god. And I had
to keep that food warm, whichruins the food. She was an hour
and a half late for her celebration. Yes, in my home where I
made dinner for all these people andWe're all waiting for her. We couldn't

(01:17:55):
start without her. She's the wholereason we're there. You know what that
is a spanking, that's a paddling. But there are so many pet peeves
out there. There is so muchout there that just drives you crazy,
and if you do let it botheryou, it could really affect you.
But I think it would be awesome. But I also agree that I annoy

(01:18:19):
people with certain things that I dosure of it. I don't have patience.
I'm not a yeller or anything likethat, and I don't like to
make a scene or anything. Butyou could definitely tell when I'm running out
of patience, and like, I'mimpatient with a lot of things, and
I think that might annoy people.I like to have a schedule, and

(01:18:41):
I think that that might annoy peoplewho really just like to go with the
flow. Well, I have noticedthat you are very punctual, and I
am also very punctual, so Iappreciate your punctuality, and I am very
annoyed by people who are late.I could definitely see that you would probably
not get a spanking ever for beinglate, unless something came up like traffic,

(01:19:04):
and then I would call to letyou know that I was running late
and the reason why, and thatwould probably excuse me from the punishment.
And then I would say, Ilove you too, but I'm still going
to spank you, and you wouldsay, because you love all right,

(01:19:24):
So I'm going to make a proposalhere. I don't know that I'm ready
to marry you. Well, asyou probably know, and as every single
girlfriend that I ever have to thispoint knows, that is probably not on
my menu. What a relief.Don't worry about that. This is a
different proposal. Okay, Now weall know that in this spanking community,

(01:19:47):
although we watch all these videos thatlook non consensual because that's what we love,
we all know that spankings have tobe consensual, yes, And we
also know that spanking of children isvery frowned upon, very frowned upon.
So let's just suspend our beliefs fora second. Suspended. You know how

(01:20:15):
in the Hunger Games they had thedraft where everyone from that local their names
are in that little fish bowl,and Effie would come out and she would
pick a boy and a girl andthey would go in to represent that district
in the Hunger Games. And youremember why they did that right? Hold
on, why was it again?Because they had an uprising and from that

(01:20:41):
point on, every year to signifylike a like we learned a lesson,
they pretty much kill children. That'spretty much what happens in the Hunger Games.
Yes, and there's always one victoryea. So let's use a Hunger
Games approach to this. Nowadays,people under the age of eighteen aren't being

(01:21:01):
punished in the way we were punishedwhen we were younger. Let's just say
at the age of eighteen, onemale and one female from each town,
you know, you meet at thegreen or whatever or the town square,
and Effie comes out and picks onemale and one female. I volunteer as
tribute. I knew it. Iknew it. But let's just say you

(01:21:25):
can't volunteer as tribute, and thenames are picked out, and those two
people are given a spanking publicly infront of everyone. They're both eighteen.
Now you have to register, justlike the draft. So when you turn
eighteen, you have to go register. Let's just say if you don't register
and you get caught, you arealso going to get a spanking in front

(01:21:45):
of everyone. So not only thosetwo people, but also the people that
don't register, so we'll call themdraft dodgers. But let's just say that's
something new, and they get aspanking in front of everyone, just to
show them what used to happen backin the day so that we don't repeat
it again. And that's kind ofwhat the Hunger Games is all about.

(01:22:06):
Uh huh. And of course we'dhave to certify spankers every year, they'd
have to re certify. How doyou think this would fly? How severe
is the spanking? Probably a littlelonger than our regular spanking, but not
overly severe. Let's just make ithand spankings. I think that you would
have some people in society who wouldbe very opposed to this because they would

(01:22:30):
find it degrading, they would findit humiliating, etc. I think you'd
have some people who would be allfor it, and then you'd have some
people who are kind of indifferent.But now it's only eighteen year olds.
Once you're nineteen, you're done.That's not how the Hunger Games worked,
but that's how this thing works.It's only eighteen year olds. Two eighteen

(01:22:50):
year olds from each town are goingto get a spanking like we used to
get when we were younger, justto show everyone what could possibly happen again
if we go back can live theold way and if this held is a
threat over society, like if everybodydoesn't stay in line, then we're going
to go back to this method ofdoing things. I'm not really sure what
it is. It's really just ahypothetical thing that I made up in my

(01:23:15):
head. But I actually thought ofsomething further with this. Okay, because
we don't want to single out anyone, what about if we spank every single
person that turns eighteen. But hearme out before you say that's a lot
of people, think about how manyspankos would have gotten their first spanking this

(01:23:35):
way. Oh, so here youare. You're going to be eighteen.
You know, you've been into spankingsince you were like five, and once
you turn eighteen, you're going toget a spanking without the shame. Now,
this is very interesting. You're goingto have some people who love it
and some spankos who don't love itbecause it's not loving, it's institutional.

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So somebody like me, I wouldhave hated that because it's very institutional and
what I craved and I had notbeen spanked by a partner when I was
eighteen and all I wanted was tobe spanked, but in a loving context.
This is the only way at themoment that you're going to even be
able to try a spanking. Don'tyou think you would be looking forward to

(01:24:21):
that day? I think I wouldn'thave, but lots and lots of spanko's
would. I would be looking forwardto that day and I would show up
early. I would want to watchthe spankings. But how would you feel
if you were selected? Well,no, this is everyone, every eighteen
year olds getting a spanking. Ohthat's right, Okay. If I had

(01:24:41):
to go down there and I couldwatch all these spankings and all I have
to do is get a spanking,I'm taking that. I mean, I
have no choice. I have toget one anyway, right, So I
would have not enjoyed my own spanking. I don't think that I would enjoy
watching the men get spanked, butI would have enjoyed watching the women get
Don't you think that there's going tobe people that are going to try to

(01:25:04):
get out of this anyway possible.Yes, absolutely, like they're going to
find loopholes in the system. It'sgoing to be a mess. We know
it's going to be a mess.Yeah, but I think that it would
have been a kind of cool thingfor a lot of spank goes out there
who had not been spanked up tothis point, to actually experience a spanking
without anyone knowing you're into spanking,without a doubt, there would be people

(01:25:28):
who would be on cloud nine.Anyway, let's move on from that.
We're almost done here. Okay.I was talking to someone the other day
and I always asked a question,what would you choose spanking or sex for
the rest of your life? Peopleare always asking me, and of course
I'm going to choose spanking as longas I could masturbate. I am totally
fine with just spanking butts and takingmyself in hand. Yes, let me

(01:25:53):
ask you a question. What issomething that you just enjoy the hell out
of other than spanking? Yes?Yeah, absolutely? Can I say eating
good food? Yes, that's definitelyone. Anything specific? I like it
all. I love a good juicysteak. I love vegan restaurants Okay,

(01:26:14):
even though I'm not vegan, Italianfood love, I love it all.
Okay, is there anything else thatyou really love to do? I mean,
I love to cook, really loveto cook, and I love to
go out shopping and took a coffeeshop with a girlfriend. I love that
too, not actually with a Imean I do like going out with girlfriends

(01:26:36):
and female friends where they're not mygirlfriend. And I like going out with
male friends and just usually not acoffee shop, but more like for wings
and beer or something and just havinga great conversation or watching a game.
Yep. So let's just say thatyou have options on the table. One
of course, is spanking. Theother one is going out for great food,

(01:26:57):
and one of them has to go. Is like, for the rest
of my life, I have topick one. Yes, Oh my god,
going out for great food has togo. And it hurts to let
go of going out for great food, It really hurts. But yeah,
it's the spanking. How about goingout and talking with your friends over coffee?
Oh my god, to never havethat again. Ah, now I

(01:27:20):
think I'm taking the spanking. Okay, let's just say you have a trip
with your female friends, and thisis going to be an overnight trip.
You're gonna go out, You're gonnahave a great dinner, You're gonna have
wine or whatever you like to drink. You're gonna have some great conversation with
these friends, but you also havethe opportunity to get spanked by this person

(01:27:41):
You've been waiting to get spank byfor a long time. But they both
fall on the same night. Whichone are you choosing? Choosing the spanking?
Someone asked me the other day,because I really really really love fantasy
sport, I know you do wellfantasy baseball. I love fantasy football.

(01:28:04):
Yeah, And this person said tome, what if you could never do
fantasy football again or you can neverdo spanking again? And I've had a
really hard time. It's hard.I don't think that I could give up
fantasy football. I may live therest of my life as a scoff law
and just do both of them andhope that I never get caught. It's

(01:28:30):
funny because I've heard you ask peoplethe spanking versus sex question, And for
me, that's so easy. Iwould pick spanking all day, every day
over sex. But the stuff likenever going out to dinner again with girlfriends
and never walking into a fantastic restaurantand sitting to enjoy that food, that's
hard. Yeah, that's really hard. If I have this opportunity, like

(01:28:54):
someone's coming through Florida and I've wantedto spank this girl for you know,
my entire life because I used tosee her in videos. Let's just use
a random name, Abigail Whittaker orJessica Biel, either one of them.
They're you know what, Jessica billand Abigail Whittaker. Somehow they're friends and
they're taking a little trip to Orlando. And both of them tell me that

(01:29:16):
on the last week of August,we're going to be in Orlando and we
want you to come and spank bothof us. And that's your fantasy football
weekends where I fly to Connecticut.YEP, I would contemplate moving that draft.
It's a tough one. It's areally tough choice. You know,
I would love to have a fantasyfootball league with just spanko's. That would

(01:29:41):
be a cool little fantasy league,half females and half males. You know,
you should start a fetlife group forit, a Fetlife fantasy football groups.
But you know what, they alwayshave a party on the weekend that
you would do the fantasy draft,and I know that a lot of those
people are going to choose the partyover the fantasy draft. Absolutely Okay,

(01:30:04):
So just getting back to the choiceissue, isn't it fascinating the spanking versus
sex question. Sex is this incrediblynatural human drive. We're all here because
it exists, and the spanking desireis even stronger than that. It definitely
is. When I was in myteens and twenties, everyone else is talking

(01:30:26):
about, oh, look at thoseboobs, Look at this, look at
this. All I'm thinking is Iwant to spank that butt. Yeah.
I didn't even care what their boobslook like. I just wanted to spank
that butt. They could talk aboutvagina all they want. I didn't care.
I just wanted to spank ass.I'm in a similar boat. What
really interested me was spanking. I'msurprised we've never seen a serial spanker out

(01:30:49):
there, because you know, yougot serial killers who have their drive,
and we know exactly what their driveis. How has there never been a
serial spanker where a person just goesaround randomly spanking people and then they have
to dust her for DNA. Eve. You know, I really have nothing

(01:31:10):
more to say to you. Ithink we've covered all the topics I wanted
to and more. Every time Iget on I told you we would be
done at a certain time, andwe were not. We were not before
I do leave. There is oneother thing I would like for someone to
do if I don't win this lottery. I would like a very rich benefactor
that would be willing to give memoney, and I will make some great

(01:31:31):
videos with some females that are goingto show their faces. Unlike all my
videos, pretty much no one showstheir faces, and the only face they
wouldn't see is mind. Well,you know that there's got to be at
least one who listens to your podcast, and I would assume that that person
maybe would be concerned about his confidentiality. I ain't gonna say a thing,

(01:31:54):
but I'm here to tell you,millionaire listener that our host is extremely discreet
and he knows all my information andhas never breathed a word. That's true.
I have a lot of people's information. Yes you do, and unfortunately
they all have mine. Doctor Eve, and my benefactor out there you know,

(01:32:17):
get in touch. But doctor Eve, I want to thank you again
for sitting down here in your closet, from your closet to mine and doing
this again. It's always enjoyable.I like doing these podcasts with you.
Because when I get a stupid idea, I know it's a doctor Eve idea,
and I write it down on apiece of paper and I start to

(01:32:38):
develop it little by little and thenI'm like, okay, I got about
five topics. Time to call thedoctor. So you're saying that when you
get a stupid idea, you thinkof me, I'm going to take that
as a compliment. It is.It's a very stupid spanking idea where I
know it's just going to be funnyand ridiculous. But anyway, thank you
very much for doing this again.It's a lot of fun for me to

(01:32:58):
thank you. And why don't yousee goodbye to everyone once again, by
everyone. All right, everyone,that wraps up another long Doctor Eve podcast.
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