Josephine Drake

Talking spanking and much more with Josephine Drake.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Never too Old for a Good Spanking Podcast.
Put the hands up front, stick that butt out, stick
it out. Yes, sir, I need a guy spade.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
I need a guy spade.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
I need a guy spade.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
I need.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of the Never Too
Old for a Good Spanking Podcast. Now on the other
end of this phone, I have a young lady with
many years of experience disciplining naughty miscreants over the age
of eighteen, of course, and she resides right now in
San Francisco, California. And she probably needs no introduction to

(00:49):
some of you, but some of you probably don't know
who she is, just like she doesn't know who I am,
but she kind of got to know me right before
this podcast. But anyway, right here I have the one
and only Miss Josephine Drake. How are you doing today?

Speaker 2 (01:06):
I'm doing fabulously.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
How are you I'm doing great. We've already talked for
like fifteen minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Well, I am ready ready for all of your probing questions.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Well, first of all, I have to say you are
in incredible shape.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Oh thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
What is your fitness routine?

Speaker 3 (01:25):
I work out three days a week at a pretty
rigorous boot camp.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
I do a little running, and when the season is good,
I surf.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Actually, well, whatever you're doing is working fantastic, because thank you.
I looked at all your pictures and the outfits that
you wear in these pictures look like they were custom
made for you. But enough of the gushing. Let's get
down to business.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
You're too kind.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Why the name Josephine Drake.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
It's funny because when I first started, I got my
start back in the mid nineties.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
You don't have to date myself.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
And I wanted a name that sounded kind of like
it would pass for a regular name, like some of
the doms had these kind of fanciful names that sounded
very dominatrixy, and I wanted something that would just sound
like a person. So I just went with Josephine. And
for years I was just Josephine. I used to advertise
in DDI magazine, some human I know that from the

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olden days.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
And there was this other Josephine, I think.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
In Alaska, and then there was another one that popped
up in the UK.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
So I decided I needed to distinguish myself. So I
just went with Drake because I.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Just wanted to come up with a last name that
would pass for something fairly normal.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
I think there was also an American actress named Josephine Drake,
and I figured that's what you were going to say.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Well, you know, I came up with this last name
before the Internet. If I had known, I might have
come up with a different last name.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
I just want something that's sounded dignified and authoritative.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
I think it sounds great.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Now, at what age did your mind first start going
into overdrive with all of this crazy stuff.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
I definitely had some proclivities at a very early age.
I was drawn to the transgressive. I was drawn to
alternative culture. My parents had some things laying around the house.
My mother actually had the book Delta of Venus by
Anias Nin. I don't know if your listeners know this book, but.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
It's full of filthy kink activities. I just kind of
was exposed to it early. But I was also drawn
to it in a way.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
And my dad had some dirty magazines, and I remember
I was particularly drawn to the kink stuff like the
bondage and any spanking and.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Things like that.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
These were more mainstream kinds of magazines like Playboy and Penthouse,
and we, but occasionally they'd have a kink thing in there.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
I was just fascinated with it.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Were all these thoughts with you on the dominant end.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
I think I was sort of imagine myself in both
roles at an early age. I kind of had this dual,
dichotomous kind of feeling around it, where it was about
this power dynamic. I don't know if it was even
so much about the specifics of the activity as it
was about the power differential and this activity that happened

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in this kind of energy that rose up from that
kind of scenario.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Did you have specific pictures of what you wanted to
do or what you wanted to have done to you?
Were there things in your mind that you're thinking, I
would love that.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
I definitely had bondage fantasies, and when I was younger,
I definitely had more switch energy. When I first started
training at the Shadows, which was the bondage house I
worked out of, I started off as a sub when
I was first training.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
I know it's good.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Because I got to be exposed to what it's like
to be on the other end of everything, and so.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Then I started switching.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
And then maybe after about a year of switching, I
started topping only, and I enjoyed those sessions. But you know,
over the years, I just became more and more.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Of a top.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Are you a spanko?

Speaker 2 (05:08):
I have a.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Friend and we were talking about this, and this person
is a full on spanko, and they were talking about
the conversation.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
They'd had with somebody else who was asking about me.
And this is a.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Long way of answering your question, which is no, I'm
not a full on true spanco in that I did
not look up the words spank in the dictionary as
a kid. I didn't have early fantasies of being spanked.
I know that for a true diehard spanko, you can
almost set your watch by the activities people engaged in
when they were kids, right or the fantasies. So I

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came to it later. But I definitely was experimenting with
kink with my sexual partners before I started off as
a professional, And when I got to the shadows, I
immediately really resonated with spanking scenarios and in particular age
play scenarios. I just took like a duck to water
to them, and I'd wound up getting mentored by mistress

(06:02):
Reba definitely a real spanko, and she taught me everything
I know about corporal punishment.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
She gave a great spanking.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
I could totally attribute my style to her style. And
basically I just got super involved in the spanking scene
and the age play scene.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
So spanking wasn't even part of your thoughts growing up,
really until you started doing it professionally.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
I saw this film called Personal Services, and it's actually
directed by one of Monty Python's members, Terry Jones, and
the film is about this madam who caters to gentlemen
who interested in kink.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
And I saw this maybe as a teenager.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
You know, back when I was a kid, there wasn't
all the information that was readily available like it is now.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
I guess I've had thought that something like this would be.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Abusive, or like maybe the women didn't really like their clients,
But in this film, there's this genuine affection between the
women working there as well as between them and the clients,
and I just thought it was so lovely and sweet
and funny, and I really wanted to do that.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
You didn't experience anything to do with spanking until you
met this miss.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Riba I do remember the first time I saw Riba.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
And it was this scene before me where she was
flogging somebody and she was just beautiful, mature. I think
she was in her forties at the time, and she
just looked so powerful, and I thought that I want
to do that, I want to be that, and so
I asked her she would take me on as a
kind of apprentice, and she did, and so I just started.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Working with her and we became quite close, and.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
I actually saw her maybe like last year. I still
call her my dom mom because.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
She brought me up in that area.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
She doesn't do any role play or psychological play, which
is one of the things I'm really interested in, but
she definitely trained me in all things physical, meaning corporal
punishment in particular, and.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
She taught you how to give a spanking.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Oh yeah, oh boy. She gave a great spanking.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
This is all subjective because of course everybody likes something different.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
But my style, which is totally ripped.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Off from her style, is very rhythmic, very steady and building.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
You know, and I think a lot of people have
that style as well.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
But I did get best Spanking award from Mistress Jin,
so that's an honor I hold very dearly.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
At what age did you give your first official spanking?

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Like the first real spanking would have been at the
Shadows at the bondage house I trained at, so I
would have been in my mid twenties.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
You kind of took away this next question I have,
but picturing it in my head right now. I'm still
going to bring something about it out because I need
to know. Miss Reebot obviously gave you a spanking.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
She did.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Can I just say one word?

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Hot? That is very hot? How did that go? Like
when she first was going to give you a spanking?
Were you thinking, Wow, this is a little weird for me.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
No, because she was amazing.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
A lot of people in the scene I think don't
know that I ever bottom because I have such a
reputation as a very controlling top, which I am, but
absolutely when I was beginning. I mean, honestly, I'm sure
there's plenty of great.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Tops who have never bottomed. But I think it's really.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Good to understand in your body, like what you're doing
to the other person.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
I'm saying that, and yet there's plenty.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Of things I've done to other people that I would
never consent to. Absolutely and again, you know, I don't
bottom anymore, so there are some toys I use that
definitely were never used on me back in the day.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
So maybe I'm a hypocrite, but.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, I was absolutely enthusiastic.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
And I watched her spank all my friends at the place,
and she was great.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
She just exuded this kind of authority and she was sexy,
but not in a ploying way. She had this really
great contained energy and she still is.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
She's still an incredible person.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
And then, of course the girls would practice on each
other at the house I was at when we were
first starting to.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Have loved to have been just the janitor at that house.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Of course you would have a bunch of girls goofing
off of each other. There was a lot going on
over there. It was pretty hot.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
I'm thinking about it right now. I know what you
look like you are, and I know what you look
like at your age. Now I can only imagine what
you look like at the ages you're talking about here.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Well, there you go.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
There is definitely a difference between and not for everyone.
I mean, there are people who don't care about this
at all, but there are people who do. And it's
mostly women that do. If a guy gets spanked but
also give spankings. There's a lot of women out there
who will not get spanked by a guy who also
gets spanked. I could see where they're coming from. I mean,

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everyone has their own thing when it comes to this,
but I don't think it works the other way at all.
I don't think anyone would care one bit if you
got a spanking and then wanted to give someone a
spanking two seconds after they saw you get one. I
don't think anyone's going to say this doesn't feel real
to me. But I definitely think it only works on

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the male side of that, where the men who get
spanked and want to give spankings, I think that they
are held in a different category than the women.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
But here's the thing, too, is that a lot of
those guys.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Who are only tops and I'm using air quotes as
I say that come to see me for appointments privately
at these parties, they actually want to get spanked, and
they don't want anybody to.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Know they're getting spanked. And obviously I'm discreet.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
I don't talk about my private appointments with people.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
So you're not going to give me their names and addresses.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Absolutely you're safe with me whoever they may be. Yeah,
they're out there for sure, and I understand why they.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Don't want people to know.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
When was the last time you got a spanking?

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Probably geez, the nineties, sometime in the nineties. Yeah, you know,
I'm so ba and I love controlling people, and I
love doing it to other people so much.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
I mean, what about you? Do you ever get a spanking?

Speaker 1 (12:09):
I was actually just going to ask you a question first,
and you can get back to that.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
I was going to say, I know, but I want
to talk about you get.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
We'll get there. You could ask that question. I was
going to ask if you felt offended that I was
the one running this interview and not you, that's hilarious. Well,
to answer your question, I have been spanking since I
was about thirteen years old, but really started when I
was fifteen ish.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Ah, you a little whipper snapper, and you.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Can't go through this many years of life without having
someone wanting to try it out on you. Sure, but
that's where I'm going to leave it. I'm not going
to go into any more detail because this is laught.
This is not my interview where people need to know
anything about me.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Maybe you need somebody closer your age to take you
over their knees under.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Who you might be talking about?

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Talking all right back to you my favorite subject.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Are there any videos of you out there giving spankings?

Speaker 2 (13:11):
No, I don't like doing video.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
For about fifteen years, I was very, very seriously involved
in Brazilian jiu jitsu, and I used to compete and
I actually won the Pan American championships.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Well congratulations on your winning, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
But I don't practice anymore. It's very hard on the body.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
But I did do some wrestling videos back I think
in the late nineties, with a friend of mine who
had a video company called Virago. You know, I was
really not into doing videos.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
But she was a friend of mine.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
She was my training partner at the time, and so
I did a few videos with her, and of course
they wound up on the internet.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
These were VHS tapes, so somebody digitized those and uploaded them,
which I'm a little annoyed about. But you know, I
look pretty good, So.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
I would actually love to see a video of you
giving a spanking.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
You know.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
For a minute there, I was thinking about doing some
kind of fan page, and I thought, well, you know,
I'm really not interested in having documentation of me doing
what I do anywhere, and especially on the internet, because.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Who knows where it's going to wind up.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
So basically, what I'm saying is that philosophically, I'm not
entirely opposed to the idea, but it would have to
be very tightly controlled, and I probably don't have the
bandwidth to really do it.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Seriously, I have over a hundred videos out there for
free on spanking Tube, and as you could probably sense
from my awesome personality over this conversation, I do have
a lot of friends out there, and no one has
ever even approached me and said, hey, I know what
you do.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Are you trying to talk me into doing videos?

Speaker 1 (14:57):
No, I'm actually just trying to tell you how important
and popular I am.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
No, I believe it. I believe it.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
I believe it so everybody out there. If you want
to see what I'm talking about, what I have been saying,
what I've been complimenting her about, you can go to
her mistress Josephine drake dot com page and check out
more info about her and what she's up to. You
could find her contact info and session info, and of

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course those stunning pictures I was talking about before. Definitely
check out that site and maybe find out some things
about her that I may not cover on this podcast episode.
So when did you actually decide to go out on
your own.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
When I first started, I was just Josephine and there
were no websites, and then I went independent after being
at that house for I think I was there about
a year and a half and I opened my own
space here in San Francisco with a partner, and that
was kind of a cusp with when website started. So

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I did have a website that was Josephine dot net
and that was my first website. And there was a
brief period of time, maybe in like around two thousand
and I'm going to.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Say eight where I got very.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Heavily involved in another area of my life and I
wound up getting a full time position that I was
pursuing and I actually retired for.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
A little while. I thought it might behoove me to
take my.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Website down, and I let go of the domain, which
was probably foolish of me. But I was still seeing
a few people, but I wasn't advertising, and that was
probably about maybe five years, so I was a little
more underground and then I came back in twenty thirteen,
and of course Josephine dot net was no longer available,

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and so I came back with Mistress Josephine Drake dot com,
which is my current website.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
What services do you offer with this business?

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Really just one on one play, also consultations. I really
like to be in person and be able to get
my hands on people, but I do offer phone appointments
of various sorts. I've done phone fantasies, but I prefer
to have like a consultation with maybe a little bit
of role playing in there, and zoom appointments where maybe
you know, I talk at length about the person's interests,

(17:19):
or maybe they have some questions or they're trying to
work something out.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
During COVID, I did.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Do some zoom role playing appointments, but I'm also kind
of considering doing some coaching. I feel like I need
to do a little bit more figuring out about how
to be more explicit about what I offer in that.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Capacity, but I haven't quite gotten around to that.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
And as you know, right now, I'm in the middle
of this big project of opening my own domestic discipline
space in collaboration with misters Georgia Payne.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
In Los Angeles. So that's taking up a lot of.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
My time with what you're doing. Is it all about
corporal punishment and discipline or do you kind of go
over to a little more of the dominatrix thing too.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Well, you know, I came into this probably more through
the BDSM world as a youngster, you know, when I
first started practicing, and then I got really interested.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
In the domestic discipline stuff.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
And then actually in the early two thousands, when I
actually closed my space in San Francisco that I referred
to earlier, and I wound up working with Asana Iger,
who was a very.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Well known dom who I'm sure some of your listeners know.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
She did BDSM domestic discipline and adult baby play, and
she kind of got me interested in adult baby play.
And I know that's not the subject of your podcast
in general, but that is something that I also do
a lot of and something I really enjoy. So I
do all three and sometimes I might be doing a
domestic discipline session, but the person I'm playing with has

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a little bit more of a kinklean in terms of
they might like to incorporate some bondage.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
So I really like.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
Those kind of custom hybrid kind of sessions were maybe
it's somebody who's into spanking, but they also want to
be regressed and that way maybe turned into a toddler,
or maybe somebody who's an errant employee who's been very
poorly behave, and then maybe I tie them up tooper
strictly to the spanking horrorse and so there's bondage involved

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and then I punish them that way.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
So there's different ways of.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Combining these three areas. But I also just like plain old.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Spanking, as do a lot of our listeners. But there's
so many aspects of spanking that people get into. You
name it, someone out there does it.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
That's a fact.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Do your vanilla friends or your family members know anything
about this wild life that you have?

Speaker 2 (19:37):
They sure do.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
I mean I don't go into a lot of detail
with my parents generally, but they know they know what
I do. I told them pretty early on I'm not
very good at keeping secrets about myself. I can keep
your a secret great, but when it comes to me,
I'm not good at divving about stuff. So I came
out to my parents very early on, and I'm totally out.
I'm not concerned about people knowing what I do. I

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just don't want people seeing it. I have folks who
I would prefer them not to see me in action.
They can know about it if they ask me, I'll,
you know, tell them insofar as it's appropriate. But I
really don't need people watching me doing my thing.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Have you ever left for work and your mother has
just said, have a spanking day at work, honey?

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Oh, for Lord's sake, that's a dad joke. And you
know it.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
You know they do know because I do sessions when
I'm in Los Angeles and my parents live there, so sometimes.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
I'm staying with them.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
I'm like, I'm going to the office again. I don't
go into a lot of detail about it. My mother
is a little more I can talk to her more
openly about it.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
But with my dad, he'll make jokes about it.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
I couldn't even imagine.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
And honestly, if this weren't my way of making a living,
I wouldn't even have brought it up at all.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Like, they don't need to know.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
About my king client. What I do behind closed doors
is really nobody's business. It's just that this is how
I make a live. I do sometimes tell people if
I think that they're not gonna be too ordered out
by it because I live in San Francisco. And if
you don't already know a dominatrix, and you've lived in
San Francisco for every period of time you've been living
with your head under a rock, probably I.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Think you could tell those other people that you're just
taking care of business TCB.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
Sometimes I wake up and think what can I do
to earn myself a spanking today? And other times I
wake up and just ask for one. How about you?
Welcome back to the Never Too Old for a Good
Spanking Podcast.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
So you've spanked a lot of butts in your day
now right, I.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Honestly have no idea how many butts I've spent just
in one of these parties, I probably spank I don't know.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
At least one hundred bucks. Wow, it's hard to say,
because you know, I do the Naughty Boys party.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
I always do at the Vegas party I go to,
and then I see people privately, and then anybody who
asks me when I'm out and about I will generally,
unless I'm taking a break or I'm really.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Tired, I'll just I'll spank anybody.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
I don't I'll streak anybody I don't like them.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Or if they're being pushy or disrespectful. Otherwise, pretty much
everybody there is lovely, and I'm happy to give somebody
a little spanking.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Is there a deeper thrill for you when you're spanking
someone who truly deserves it?

Speaker 2 (22:25):
I don't know about that. For me. If somebody has
genuinely made me mad, I actually don't like spanking them,
I feel.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah, if I'm really irritated, why would I reward that.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
With a spanking? You know, I really like.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Somebody who is fully present and really feeling what I'm
doing to them, and that exchange that happens that I'm
doing this thing to them and that they're going into
this headspace or the sensual space or this kind of
like mind trip, whatever the thing is, that is so deeply.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Satisfying to me.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
And I don't mean to get hippy dippy, but it's
almost spiritual. It's like psychically very powerful, and I just
really get off on that.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Back to when you were talking about not wanting to
spank someone that pisses you off or whatever, I feel
the same way where I won't spank them at that
point because now I don't even want to. I really
don't even want to deal with you. But at a
later point I may deal with that. But I don't
like to spank people when I don't even want to
be in the same room with them.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Yeah, that has happened for me a couple of times,
and it's just kind of bummer energy.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
I don't want to play that game.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
So yeah, how would you rate yourself? How would you
rate yourself as a scolder or lecturer or whatever style
you choose.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Who I'm very good at it, as you can tell
from my personality. I like to love, and I'm pretty
casual and I'm fairly persona all right, But I like
shutting that down and just being fully one hundred percent
locked into this formal authoritarian, I almost authoritarian, authoritative figure that.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
The person I'm playing with needs to fully respect.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Are you a scolder or more of just a stern,
firm lecturer.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
It really is the context of the scenario, because I
can be quite nurturing too. I mean, I'm talking about
myself in certain ways, but I can be nurturing but firm,
and I can be strict.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
I'm not much of a yeller.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Usually occasionally I raise my voice, but almost not at all.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
I really much prefer to use a very firm.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
Kind of calculated way of speaking to people when they're
in trouble.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah, So, speaking of that, what are some phrases that
you love to say when you're disappointing someone?

Speaker 2 (24:55):
I'll put on the spot. Oh, I don't know. This
is the last time I want to hear from your
teacher about your shenanigans in the classroom. And I'm left
with no choice. I can either call your parents or
we can take care of it right here. And you
know you've done.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
This to yourself because actions have consequences, and now it's
time for.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
You to pay the piper.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
So, like I said, I can call your guardians and
they can deal with you at home, but frankly, I
think we should take care of it right now, right here.
I'm going to pull down your pants and expose your
naughty bottom and take you over my knee and spank
you until you're bright red something like that.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
That wasn't the best, but no, I think that some
people out there, they're going to need to excuse themselves
right now and pause the podcast.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yeah that was just example, but I do love playing mommy. Sorry,
if this is triggering for anybody, but I really do.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Like to be kind of an inappropriate mommy. Those are
probably my two favorites, mommy and teacher. But I'm up
for whatever.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
I've done some prison role play with some spanking people.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Power dynamics are.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Hot, right right, So mommy, Yeah, do people often genuinely
cry during your sessions?

Speaker 2 (26:08):
I don't make people cry that often. I know some
tops are really good at that. I don't think I'm
that great at making people cry.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
It takes a very particular emotional state and the person
has to be willing to cry.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
I have, of course made people cry, but it's not
from pain.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
I mean, you know this probably too. It's really not
from pain. It's more from some kind of emotional space.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
I used to have a friend that would cry pretty
much every time spanker. That's so sweet, and that would
add some fuel to the fire because it was so realistic.
It was fantastic.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Yeah, that's very satisfying and it's very hot. It's like
you really got there, you know, and it's cathartic for them.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Definitely, that was her thing. But there are a lot
of people, like you said, who either can't cry or
won't cry.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
It really is kind of up to the bottom, and.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
I can facilitate it best I can.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
And I really like getting into people's heads and getting
them into a psychological state, whatever the headspace is that
they're looking to get into.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
I really like facilitating that for people.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
That for me is extremely important, and so when I'm
playing with somebody, I'm always really looking for their psychological cues.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
And some cues are pretty universal.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
They may have some specifics, but they're all kind of
tapping into the same kind of basic core human sorts
of insecurities or fears, so it's not generally that personal
in that sense. They're more universal, but getting to them
can be trickier with some people them with others. Some
people go down really fast. They're just waiting because they

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want to get there so badly that they're just ready
to go. But then other people sometimes it takes a
little bit more fina to get into their heads and
get them connected enough that they can accomplish that kind
of state.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
I mean, other people just don't go there at all.
It's purely physical, and that's okay too.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
But I do really like helping people get into that headspace.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
So let's just say that I am a newbyle young
eighteen year old boy. I just turned eighteen?

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, yah, yeah? Is this an age by team? We're doing?

Speaker 1 (28:25):
No, And I'm gorgeous. I'm absolutely gorgeous. I have the
most fantastic buttocks going. So let's just say that, you know,
I've been having these spanking thoughts and I'm always on
the receiving end of the spankings in my imagination. But
I'm not quite sure what I want. But I call
up miss Josephine Drake, or I don't call her up.
I look at her website anymore, and I want to

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visit her. So how would you approach someone like me,
this newbile young man who wants a spanking but isn't
quite sure what he wants.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Well, first thing I would do would be to check
this young man's ID, because that is awfully young. I
do get some very young people, but not usually quite
that young.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Well, let me just say that I left my ID
in the car.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Okay, Well, I might not be able to hear that,
young I need to see some official documentation.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
But you saw my official government ID. Now you know
who I am, and you now know that this but
that you're going to be touching is a newbaw young
eighteen year old boy, now deal with it.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Well, first of all, the young thing is a great responsibility,
because somebody that young is very tender.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
In fact, I just saw somebody recently who was thirty actually,
which is not as young as eighteen, but they've.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
Been thinking about for a long time, never done anything,
and so I'm very careful with the folks who are
just starting. I will say like ninety nine point nine
percent of the people I see I have a great
time with, and occasionally there's a little, you know, not
the greatest connection, So that does happen, but I want
them to have an experience where.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
They feel well taken care of. That it's positive.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
And I always, with somebody very new, would rather they
left having not gone as far as they could have
than have gone.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Too far and felt like they really went into something
they weren't comfortable with.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Probably with somebody like that, I would just give them
a really slow warm up.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
I get a lot of information. When somebody's over my knee,
I can feel their whole body.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
I would help them with their breathing and the other
thing I want to say, of course, looks are wonderful,
But honestly, I would rather play with somebody who's got
great energy than the perfect, beautiful specimen.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Well, in this situation, though, I'm eighteen and I have
sublime buttocks.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Listen to you. I think you're projecting something about your proclivity,
not saying you like boys, but my point being that
I think this is your fantasy about an eighteen year
old new violent girl with perfect pecs.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Oh, I got to tell you, I'm not going to
turn that. But this is all about you right now, It's.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
All about me.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
I really genuinely mean that what I like is somebody
who's responsive, and it can be a very subtle response,
but somebody who.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Is willing to go down this path.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
With me and who's fully engaged, and who I have
a good connection with.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
But you know this young boy, he sounds lovely. I
would be honored to take his spanking virginity.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
I hope I don't dream about him tonight.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Well you might.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Do you provide after care for these people after a spanking.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
I do, Yeah, I mean aftercare is different for everybody,
but I give them a little time to come back
into their bodies. We usually chit chat a little bit
sometimes I give them a hug afterwards.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
What can I have aftercare? Do you too?

Speaker 1 (31:48):
I can go on and on. I love aftercare I do. Basically.
What I love is giving a butt a nice massage.
Absolutely love it. And everyone that I've seen pretty much
has also enjoyed that. But you know, then I've gotten
some people who I guess that's too far for them,
so they just want to spank an no aftercare, and
that's fine too, But for the most part, not many

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young ladies have turned down a butt massage.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Well that's lovely.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
Well, some of the folks I see, they're in very
bad trouble. It's all contextual. If the session is you're
in trouble and you're get.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
To spanking, then a butt massage in that case would
not be appropriate. I just did a scene.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Recently where somebody wanted to be absolved for something, and
so I gave her a long spanking over the knee,
and then I hit her with a belt for a while,
and I changed her came her on the front of
her size, which.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
I love doing. I don't know why, but the women
love that. It is so hot. I love it.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
And then she got on her knees in front of me,
and she was all teary faced, and she kept begging
me for my forgiveness, and eventually.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
I gave it to her and I gave her a
little hug. I let her put her head in my
lap and I hugged her. But we have to withhold
a little bit, right.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
I think I've only had one person ever asked me
to spank her on per thighs from front to side
to inside back, and you know, it's not my thing,
but I did it because she liked it, and they
mark up.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Fast, I know.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
I think it was maybe like a year ago at
the Oasis party. I came this very hot woman on
the front of her thighs.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
And then I don't know what happened. That whole party.
Women kept coming up to me and saying.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Josephine, wee, you came in front of my thus and
so people ask me for it now, So maybe you
just have to start doing it.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
I bet you have spanked some of the girls that
I have spanked.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
Maybe we'll have to talk after the interview, so we're
not in discreet on the podcast.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
I'm guessing that the first woman that you spanked on
the thighs might be the exact woman that asked me
for the spanking and the thighs.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
Well, I don't know, because I don't think this gal
bothers some men very much.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
That is also unfortunately.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
For you.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Have you ever spanked a vanilla friend?

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (34:17):
Yeah, I have a lot of friends who want to
sit in on my sessions, So.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Every once in a while I'll have a pal just
kind of sit in and observe.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
And early on, we used to have these epic play
parties at the Shadows, and some of my friends.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Would come to those.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
It was all very kind of wild and fun and
we were all just playing and having a great time.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
So I did spank some of my friends.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Have you ever spanked a celebrity.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Yes, I have. I dated somebody kind of fame.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
I'm well, very famous actually, but I can't say who
it is.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Well that would be that would probably be very bad
for that person. Yeah, I have never spanked a celebrity,
and I think I'm very trustworthy because I've interviewed a
lot of people just like yourself, and I have all
of your phone numbers and have never exposed anybody. So
if there's a celebrity out there right now, that's wondering

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if I'm trustworthy enough, you know, Jessica Biel, if you're
out there and wondering, Oh, I am ready to receive
your phone call.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Yeah. I dated somebody in the film industry for a
little while, and I did rub elbows with a lot.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Of fancy, famous people. But nobody went over my knee
from that group. Not yet. Maybe they're coming, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
It's some of those after parties, like after the Oscars
or whatever else they celebrate. I will guarantee you that
you could talk people in almost anything.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
I'm pretty good at that, actually, so am I.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
I have limitations, of course, but I'm not bad at it.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Besides your hand, what is your favorite implement to use?
What is your goat? The cane? Really, I pictured you
as a hairbrush person. I sense that you like over
the Can I.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Be honest with you for a second.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
I hope you've been honest with me this whole podcast.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Well I have been, but.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
I don't like saying this on a spanking podcast because
I don't want people.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
To get the wrong idea. But you know, I'm not
crazy about the hair brush.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Really, I do use it, and I'm happy to use
it if somebody asks for it, but it's just not
my favorite.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
I like someone with.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
A little more of a wallop, little more leverage on it.
There are some hair brushes that I do like, but
they're really almost like a small paddle. I really like
the wooden spoon. And there are these bath brushes that
everybody has. When I think, I actually found out about
this one from this naturally gin.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
It's like a bath brush.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
It's kind of got just an oval head and then
kind of a longer handle.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
It's longer than a hairbrush, but not as long as
a back scrubber. You might have it because everybody has
one of these. I think, I.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Think I do have it. And I made a video
with this girl and it's a very popular video because
in the video I tell her something about the hair
brush and she goes, it's not the hair brush because
she knew it was a bathbrush. But I called it
a hair brush.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
You know, But it doesn't matter because I'm hitting.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
You over exactly and now I'm gonna probably hit you
a little harder with it.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yeah. I like the strap too, but there's no question
to me that the cane it's just the best.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
That sound it makes the almost surgical nastiness of it.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
I love it well.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Plus you have to be really good at using it,
because some people are really bad at using it.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Some people are really bad, and I have cane people
and lots of different places.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
I do love canting on the rear end, of course.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
But you know, I like kating the backs of the thighs,
front of the thighs, and sometimes if.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
I'm really feeling me and I'll do the side.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
I used to also do people's backs and chests. Wow,
I don't do that as much anymore.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
I don't know why.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
I'm not opposed to doing it, and I could do it,
but I think spankos and people who are really into
domestic discipline generally, I like almost all of.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
The focus to be on and around the bottom.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
I think you're absolutely correct. I am a huge fan
of over the knee, So most of the implements that
I like to use are the small hair brushes, the paddles,
maybe a small strap, but obviously the one thing that
is always with me my hand. That is my absolute
favorite implement.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
I know. I love giving hand spankings.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
I tend to stick to the same implements I always have.
The wooden spoon, and I always have that brush we
were talking about.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
And a cane, and then you know strap or two
as well.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
There's nothing like the wooden spoon when you grab someone
by the arm and make them do the little spanky dance.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Oh, the spanky dance. I don't know this dance.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
You don't know the spanky dance, Well, I don't know
the name for it, so go ahead.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
Well, it's when you grab them by the arm and
you're giving them some smacks on the butt and they're
kind of moving in an interesting way.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
I don't know that I I do that so much.
I just get them right over.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
My knee during one of your next spankings. If they're
agreeable to it, I'd like you to give them a
spanking where you grab them by the arm and you
just fit them with the wooden spoon and you'll be like,
that's the spanky dansh.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
I know what you're talking about. I've done it.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
I'm just saying like, that's more when they're resisting a
little bit, and I really prefer full submission, not that
I always achieve it.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
I hope you're enjoying Miss Josephine Drake as much as
I am. The show will be right back. Now, sit
down and behave yourself for the rest of the episode,
or pay the price.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
People out there, remember this mistress Josephine Drake dot com.
Check that out look into her business and you got
to look into this one other thing that I discovered
about her when I was doing some research for the
a year ago. Her and a couple of friends must
have been out, maybe having a drink or something, thrown

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around ideas and they came up with a new idea.
And this new idea is called the House of Servitude,
and it's a discipline and reform camp. It's returning for
a second year this year. It's going to be Saturday,
October twenty fifth through Sunday October twenty sixth in Palm Springs, California.

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And she has teamed up with her friend, Miss Georgia Payne.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
And miss Kelly may.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Well, if you'd let me continue my interview.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Oh, maybe should just stick to the point.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
And she has teamed up with miss Kelly may Now
whose idea was this and when did all this come about?

Speaker 3 (40:50):
Actually, the House of Servitude started as a BDSM event
and I had nothing to do with that, but I
was talking to missus Georgia, and we thought up the
idea of doing a domestic discipline event, and she wanted
to get another person involved, so I suggested Kelly May

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because she's fantastic and I've seen her in action.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
And she's a real spanker, whereas.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
Georgia and I am very into spanking, but not locked
into that particular mindset. So we thought she would be
a perfect person to level us all out, and we
wanted to do like a discipline and reform camp. Basically,
it's an immersive event where people come for up to
thirty six hours. We had day players who came for

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I think it was like eight hours, and.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Then we had people who stayed for the whole day
and then spent the night and then left in the morning.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
And then we had a couple of people stay for
the full thirty six hour event.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
Has anything changed, Honestly?

Speaker 3 (41:51):
It went really well and we took a survey afterwards.
There was a couple of little criticisms, but ninety five
percent was ravingly.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
You know, there are parties people can go to.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
At a party, you go in and out, you socialize
with people.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
This was no socializing.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
It was totally formal and role play headspacing.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
So this is non stop structure. They don't have free time.
The whole thing is role play.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Yeah, we picked them up in a bus. From the
second we picked them up, from.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
The time they leave there en roll, we had classes,
we had crafts. I was doing like a clinic where
I was the camp nurse and people would come in
and visit with me, and I would administer various treatments
and procedures and examinations, and sometimes I would have to
punish people that came in and.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Some of the people that came in to see me.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
I don't know if this is of interest to any
of your listeners, but I did have to diver a
few people and deal with them that way because maybe
they've been acting immaturely in quass so I had to
regress them even further. So I didn't even get to
observe Georgia and Kelly May very much because.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
I was in my clinic most of the time. My
nurse's uniform.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
That's kind of hot again, But is there no spanking
play between the guests at all?

Speaker 2 (43:07):
I'm pretty sure that wouldn't have been allowed.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
These are boys that are headed for trouble. So we
had to watch them very very closely and make sure
they didn't get into any trouble or try to cause
any kind of disruptions.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
To the schedule. So it was very strictly supervised.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Are they provided the opportunity to either send a letter
or maybe a phone call to their folks if they
get a little homesick.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
I think either Kelly or Georgia had them write a
letter of apology. Maybe for the reason they got sent
to the Reform camp in the first place.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
They had to apologize to that person.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
And there may have been some other activities I'm not
aware of. I was very busy with my patients.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Well, let me just read a couple of reviews that
you guys got from last year's camp, which probably will
encourage people for next year's camp. Yeah, so let me
read these reviews. An amazing experience, and I would do
it again. All three of the disciplinarians were kind with
their words, generous with their energy, powerful in their beauty,

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and marvelously sadistic. Oh that was one right, here comes
the other one. I really enjoyed it and it was
exactly as described. The headspace was spot on, and all
the disciplinarians were solid. You could tell serious time and
effort went into making it a quality event tailored to

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each camper.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Those are good reviews, Yeah, really good.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
If I read these reviews back when I was young
and impressionable, I still wouldn't come to get spankings from
the three of you. But I'm sure you are going
to be book solid again this year.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Yeah I think so too. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
It was really incredible, a great.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Experience, and I couldn't have worked with two better co disciplinarians.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
They're both really accomplished and experts.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Maybe I will have to speak with them on a
future episode.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Of the podcast.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
All right, so I'm going to let you off the
hook soon. But I got a few more questions for you,
some typical questions that I ask everyone, and then some
fun questions that I kind of mix and match on
different episodes. So here's the first one for you. Back
when you were young and confused about all this, if given.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
The choice, If you were given.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
The choice, do you think you would have wanted to
erase these thoughts from your mind back when you were
young and first having all these thoughts, would you have
preferred not to have had them? Back then?

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Absolutely not. That's who I am.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
I've always been very interested in high intensity experiences.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Like I said earlier, I'm a thrill seeker. That is
my nature. I'm a very creative person. I don't think
I would have imagined that this.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Would be what I was doing at the age i'm
at now, when I was a kid, I couldn't have
imagined this.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
But it doesn't surprise me at all. And I have
had a goddamn blast.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
My life has been so much fun, and I've really
done it my way, and really my life is exactly
how I want it. I have great relationships with other people,
and I'm relatively well adjusted person I think, you know,
and I really enjoy myself. I have a lot of
pleasure in my life, and one of the great pleasures

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of my life is getting to play with people and
getting to control them in this consensual way that gives
them this great feeling of catharsis and connection and really
does the same for me. So I feel very very lucky.
You know, you're in this body, you're on this earth
for this period of time. Why would you not use

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it as a playground. Why would you not explore everything
you want to explore?

Speaker 1 (47:00):
That actually takes care of the big question that I
asked everyone, because the next question I was going to
ask you is what advice would you give to people
that are having a hard time accepting this? And you've
just answered that question.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
Yeah, and my advice would be that your feelings of fear,
those are real, and I do not dismiss those feelings.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
I think that for some people, it's harder for me.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
I was brought up in an environment where I was always.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Told I was strong and I was powerful.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
But ultimately I was encouraged to be brave, and so
when I wanted something, I would go after it.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
That's me and I'm very lucky that way.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
But for folks that are really having a hard time
or feel like shame or whatever about connecting to this
part of themselves, especially in this day and age, you
can go online and see how many people feel exactly
the same way you do, who have been through the
exact same thing you've been through.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
I can't tell you how many.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
People come to see me who have been holding on
to the fantasies for you know, decades.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
You're absolutely right about that. A lot of people that
I've interviewed on this podcast repressed those feelings for a
long time. Some people eventually come around, and some people
never will, and that is absolutely unfortunate. But I hope
that with each one of these episodes that I release,
that you find people I interview on here encourage people

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to break out of their shell and start exploring this
wonderful thing we call spanking. But anyway, let's lighten things
up a bit now and get away from the seriousness
for a minute. We're going to develop a fictitious world
around the next couple questions. Okay, let's just say that
spankings are completely acceptable and even encouraged for adults in

(48:52):
real life. What's one reason, maybe one of your pet peeves,
what's one reason that you'd want added to the list
of spankable offenses.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
It's funny because you so, let's pretend we're in a
fictitious world. It's like, well, half of what I do
is pretending I'm in a fictitious Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
But you know what, Sometimes I'll ask that question to
people and the first thing they'll say is, well, first
thing is consent, and I'm like, no, this is a
fictitious world.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
Greed would be it, Okay, greedy people need to get spank.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
What's one thing that you think other people might think
you would deserve one?

Speaker 3 (49:32):
Well, it's a mood point, because no one would, dare darling.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
I would absolutely disagree with you on that, because if
there is something and you genuinely thought that you deserved one,
and you were in the Connecticut area, I could help
you out with that.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
Well, you know, if I were in the Connecticut area,
I could help you too.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
I actually know some mood that is true.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
I would probably be afraid to do that because I
would hate to be humbled.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
Here's a more interesting question. What do I think you
should be spanked for? In this fake world.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
That you made up?

Speaker 3 (50:12):
I think you should be spained for being pushy with
a female dumb about wanting to spank them.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
You could probably find many other reasons that are way
better than that one. I am a pain in.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
The ass, I can tell. Well. Now I have people
in my life who appreciate me.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
I appreciate you right now. I appreciate you for doing
this podcast.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Yes, and I appreciate you asking me. Thank you for
having me.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
You are more than welcome, And maybe I'll even have
you back again for a little reprise, you know, maybe
a word. Are they?

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Now?

Speaker 1 (50:46):
I have one more fictitious one for you.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Okay, great, all right, let's just.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Say, in the future of this crazy, fake world, being
kinky like us is against the law and it's punishable
by death. What is your last meal?

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Well, let's see.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
I love to eat, and I'm going to go with
a really pedestrian answer, but it's pizza.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
I know it's common, but I.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Love pizza, bread, melty cheese, tomato, sauce.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
I mean, who can resist them.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
I don't think there's any shame in admitting that you
like a basic thing like pizza, because I think that
would be the answer for eighty percent of the people.
I would enjoy coming to your last meal and having
some of that pizza with you, having.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
Some pizza with me. Well, I'm about to be burned
at the steak for my witchy activities.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
I'm not quite sure about what the way of your
demise will be, but I guess if you get to
choose it and you want to be burned at the steak,
I guess that's what it'll be. Is there anything that
I've left out that you'd like to add before we
wrap this thing up?

Speaker 3 (51:53):
There is I have to report that there has been
a very exciting development. My good friend and colleague Georgia Payne,
and I are opening a domestic discipline play space in
Los Angeles. When I was living in Los Angeles before
I lived there from twenty sixteen to twenty nineteen, I

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do a lot of domestic discipline and I was down
there and there was just no spaces that I'm aware
of that offered that kind of play. They were all
kind of dungeony spaces.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
So I did open my own space for about three
and a half years and I called it Corner Time.
And now my pal Georgia approached.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
Me and we are in the midst of opening a
Corner Time Round two in collaboration with each other, and
I couldn't be more excited and more stoked to be
working with her. And we're in downtown Los Angeles. We're
sort of having a soft opening at this point. I'm
going to stay living in San Francisco, but I'll be
commuting down there probably for one week out of every

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month and taking appointments down there. So in addition to
having that very domestic atmosphere, I will also be offering
adult baby sessions. So it's very exciting. We'll probably be
fully one hundred percent ready to go in maybe early June,
so we'll be offering a full spectrum of kink activities,

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but mostly focusing and esthetically totally focused on domestic play.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
And I'm sure this is going to have its own
web page, but until then, I bet that they could
just go to your Mistress Josephine Drake page and eventually
you'll have a link to that page for your new place.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
Yes, the space is really beautiful and it's pretty big,
and we plan to have events there as well, like
we may start group detentions, we might have.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
A daycare at some point, just.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Various kinds of activities for folks who need to be disciplined,
who need to be spanked. You have their pants pulled
down and taken over a female authority figures need.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
I'm sure there's plenty of people out there that need that.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
They'll be deligning because they really do. You know who
you are out there, and you.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Know what you need a good spanking on your naughty bottom.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
People, go to that Mistress Josephine Drake page. Check out
everything there. Check out how you might even be able
to meet this young lady on the other end of
the phone. Here you could also check out the link
to the House of Servitude page for that reform camp
and check out all the details for that. Maybe you'll
want to attend that. I believe the new registrations start

(54:34):
on either June first or July first. June first and.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
First, yep, we'll be taking applications, and.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Then eventually you're going to be able to see this
new page that she has with her friend, miss Georgia Payne,
and you'll be able to check out that too. But
I have to say thank you very much for taking
some time out of your busy life to do this
for me. I know we've been trying to do this
for a couple months now. Thank you very much for
fining being able to fit me into that busy schedule

(55:02):
of yours. I really appreciate it. Anything else you'd like to.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Say, No, it's just been a pleasure talking to you.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
Thank you for your time today and for giving me
your attention.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
It's been lovely.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
So I guess the last thing for us to do, well,
really for you to do, is to say goodbye to
everyone else out there, and maybe you can include a
sexy threat with your goodbye.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
It's hard to perform on demand.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
All use spankos, folks interested in spanking. I hope you
have a wonderful rest of your day, and for anybody
out there who needs it, I would be delighted to
take you for a trip over my knee for a good, hard,
bare bottom spanking.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
All right, everybody, That wraps up another episode of the
Never Too Old for a Good Spanking Podcast. I will
see you next time.