Mikaela

Just a little spanking conversation with an old friend.

Episode Transcript

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This is the Never Too Old fora Good Spanking Podcast. Put the hands
up front, stick that butt out, stick it out. Yes, sir,
I need a guy spade. Ineed a guy spade. I need

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a guy spade. I need Hey, everybody, Welcome to another episode of
the Never Too Old for a GoodSpanking Podcast. Now, my next guest
that I have. She's not inmy closet, but she's on the other
end of my phone. She isa thirty something female. I guess you
would guess female because I kept sayingshe. But she is a thirty something

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female from Minnesota, and rumor hasit that she really loves when people ask
her how she likes living in Minnesota, So be sure to ask her that
specific question if you ever have theopportunity to meet her. But right now,
I'd like to welcome to the showmy friend Mikayla. How's it going

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Mikayla, It's going good. I'min a hotel room. Oh or work?
Is anybody else coming to that hotelroom? Unfortunately? No, When
you go on these little trips forwork, do you try to schedule someone
to stop by the hotel room formaybe a little spanky's banky action. I

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have not been successful in that sofar, but I have tried. Have
you ever gone to those? I'mnot even sure what it would be called.
It's like group pages on the feedlife site where you can go to
the specific locations and post a message. I have never gone to one of
those, but I don't think thatI would do that and just ask for

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some random person to meet with me. It doesn't really have to be random,
Like you're not gonna say, Hey, come to my hotel room and
spank me tonight. You could planthis weeks in advance. I've never tried
that before. No, well,perhaps you should start maybe looking into this.
Maybe I'll take a look. Thanksfor the advice. So why do

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you hate the Minnesota questions so much? I find that to be a little
bit Braddy, that you're asking thequestion that I asked you not to ask.
However, I hate that it's cold, there's nothing to do, that,
it's ugly and brown, and it'snot where all my spanking friends are.
Are you saying that I'm Braddy becauseI asked? Are you saying that

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the person that asks the question isBRADDI? No, you're Braddy for bringing
up the one thing I asked younot to bring up could I be called
Braddy? Since I'm not really thatside of this spectrum, I'm calling you
Braddy. You know what's funny isthat someone is going to grab that bratty
thing that you said and send mean email about it. Good. Now,

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me and you we met in personfor a short visit quite a few
years back. Do you remember whenthat was. I was in twenty fifteen.
It was in June of twenty fifteen. What do you remember from that
visit? One thing I remember isthat the area where you film your spanking
videos is a lot smaller than itlooks like in the videos themselves. Don't

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you ever see when you're looking fora hotel and they show you the pictures
of the inside of the hotel,and then you show up to the room
and they it's the same exact thing. The room seemed bigger in the pictures,
maybe a little bit. One personcame to my house one time,
and between the time that they scheduledto come to my house and the time
they actually came to my house,I had painted the room and when they

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walked into the room, they immediatelystopped and looked scared as hell. And
I didn't know why, and theysaid, this isn't the room, but
so funny, Yeah, that was. I mean I can imagine, though,
you come into this room and you'reexpecting I believe it was like a
blood red or something at the time, which was not my idea, and

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I had painted it like a topeand they walk into the room and they're
expecting to see that red and it'sthe first time they're coming to some place
fur their very first spanking. I'msure that must freak them out a little
bit. Do you think that theythought that you weren't the right person?
By the look on her face,I could see that she thought there might
have been some foul play. Isthat all you remember about the visit to

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me? I remember giving you areally long butt rub. Really, No,
that was actually something I was goingto say that I remembered. I
remember you giving me an extremely longbutton massage and it was fan freakingtastic.
What can I say, I'm thebest. I don't want to say you're

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the best, but you are verygood, because if I say you're the
best, some other people out theremight be very very offended. Some of
the other butt massage ers that you'vehad. There have been a couple,
but I really appreciate when someone does. And it's also great when that someone
likes butts as much as I likebutts. And I take it by the

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button massage that you gave. Youare a butt aficionado. I do enjoy
a good button. This was whattwenty fifteen you said? Yeah, gosh,
that's the nine years ago. Nowthat's crazy. I can't believe it's
spent that much time. Do youremember my butt enough to rate it out
of scale from one to ten?There's definitely a ten out of ten good

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answer. So, when you're nottangled up with all this fetish stuff,
what are some of your favorite thingto do? I will have to admit
that I have a lot of spankingfriends, and that's mainly who I socialize
with. I somewhat recently moved toMinnesota, and I'm in a job that
I don't make a lot of vanillafriends or have vanilla people to hang out

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with. So when I do socialize, it is with my spanking friends.
But I have enough of them thatI see them somewhat regularly. So the
things that I do when I'm bymyself, I like to lift weights I
do that almost every day and it'smy favorite part of my day. And
then my favorite hobby is going shopping. That's interesting. You're a female and

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your favorite hobby is going shopping.That doesn't seem like a typical answer by
someone of the fair sex. Youknow, it is stereotypical that women like
to go shopping, But I actuallydon't have a lot of female friends that
like to go shopping, and Ithink it's almost sport. Honestly, if
I buy one article of clothing,I've tried on twenty five things, and

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it takes a lot of work toget clothes that you feel really comfortable and
you look really good in. Iwould imagine when you're trying on clothes,
you must turn around and think,is this a good outfit to be spanked
in? One percent of the time, Yes, what this outfit would be
like to get spanked in or havepulled down? Yes? And I always

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want to know how my butt looksat it and how I look from behind.
That's exactly what I was going forthere. When you're in the dressing
room, do you bend over inthe pants or shorts or whatever it is
you're trying on, just to getthat visual. I don't, but sometimes
I sit on the ground just tosee how they deal with my legs bent

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not as exciting as bending over.You said you like to waitlift. Are
you going for bulk or are yougoing for tone. I'm going for bulk
in the glutes because I'm kind ofspindly and I've always really wanted a bigger
butt, so that's been one ofmy goals. It's been a little bit
frustrating because when I do start tobuild muscle, I'll gain fat around my

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middle, and then when I startto cut it off more, I lose
my gains from my butt. ButI feel like I'm okay with where it's
at. But I yeah, I'mtrying to gain more bulk in my butt.
I thought your butt was fine whenyou were here back in twenty fifteen,
and I also remember giving you anice long butt massage. That sounds

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very familiar. I'm sure you've gottenmore than your share of butt massages over
the years, you know what.That's one thing that I feel like I'm
lacking in. Everybody likes to givespankings at those parties, but very few
people like to give a nice buttonmassage. And I did have a really
wonderful butt massage with lights banking atthe last party that I went to that

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I was super grateful for. Iwould imagine these massages are more apt to
happen when you're having a private spankingand not a big public spanking in front
of a whole bunch of people ata party. That's very true. And
to be clear, this didn't turninto a sexual thing. It was just
a nice, relaxing butt massage withlight spanks. I don't think a butt

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massage has to turn into a sexualthing, because I have given several.
I was going to say one hundred, it might even be thousand. Now
I'm not even sure I've given several. I have given many butt massages that
did not turn into sex, andI have no complaints about that. What
season are we on of a goodspanking? I don't even know. I

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don't even want to put a numberon it, because I'm sure for half
the people I sound disgusting. Forother half of the people, I sound
like a god. So you've beento several spanking parties. How many have
you attended? The number? Idon't have an exact number. I would
probably say forty to fifty maybe Arethese the big national parties? Some of

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them are the big national parties andsome of them are smaller parties that are
private at an Airbnb or at afriend's house. Which national parties have you
attended? I've been to BBW SSNY, which was strictly spanking New York,
and neither of those are going anymore. I've been to MSA, which was

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Manhattan's Banking Association, and I don'tthink that they have parties anymore. I've
been to Fifty Freaks out of LasVegas. They got replaced with Oasis Crimson
Moon out of Chicago, and theydon't do parties anymore, and I haven't
been to the new one. I'vebeen to Oasis, which is the new
Las Vegas party. I've been toTASK that's Texas All State. And another

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one that doesn't exist anymore is DelcoParties. That was the Philadelphia group.
So a lot of these parties haveclosed down over the years. And BBW
that was Boardwalk Badness Weekend right yes, in Atlantic City, Yeah, and
that was when I lived on theEast Coast. That was the closest one
to me. Are there any thatyou haven't attended that you would like to.

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Yeah. Actually, my good friendhas one that he hosts in La
called Rosie Peaches Social, and I'venever been out to that, and I
would love to check out his party. Do you have a favorite party,
either one that has folded or onethat's still going on or would you rather
not insult anyone out there? Idon't mind insulting anyone. The best party

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I was at was the Latest Oasis, and I've been to one other Oasis
a year ago, and I thinkit's a really well put on party and
I would definitely go again. Whatmade it so great was the people who
went, and the party organizers don'tnecessarily have control over that, but they

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set an environment that drew a lotof great people in and I had a
lot of great play and made alot of great friends. What age were
you when you went to your firstI'm talking the big national parties. I
think it was twenty seven or twentyeight. What age were you when you
went to your first spanking party?Same because I went to a national one

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about six months after I went tomy first. I went to a small
ssn Y party in October the yearbefore, and then I went to BBW
the following year. I find thatso crazy that you've been to you said,
possibly up to fifty spanking parties.Yeah, I've been to some of
those national ones multiple times, andthen I've also been to smaller cabin get

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togethers. Have you ever been arestruck at one of these parties? I
guess it was a little bit starstruckthe first time I saw Audrey Knight.
I used to see her at theDelco parties, and I remember I brought
a bottle of vodka to a Delcoparty and she drank my vodka, and
you thought it was the greatest thingin the world. I did. Yeah,

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I was like, Audrey Knight helpedherself to my vodka. If Audrey
Knight drank out of my vodka ormy beer bottle, I probably would still
have that beer bottle. Because I'vewatched sports my whole life, and I
have actually hung out with some sportspeople who have played baseball or football or
whatever, and it's not as excitingto me as meeting people who I watched

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in spanking videos. And I reallyhave not met a lot of people from
spanking videos. And I'm talking aboutthe spanking videos from way back, because
now it seems like everybody is makingspanking videos, and I'm not knocking anyone
it does, because hey, knockyourself out, make money, you do
whatever you want to do. Iliked it back in the day when it

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seemed like these spanking people were unattainable, kind of like when you see sports
people or musicians, they just seemunattainable. Where now I don't think everyone
is so unattainable anymore. But backthen, it was like, I'll never
get to meet these people. Andlittle did I know that I could have
met those people if I just wentto some of these parties back then.

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But I was a coward. Wellyou should quipping a coward then and get
out to some of those parties.I'm not a coward anymore. I just
like my one on one little things. But have you been to a party.
The biggest thing I've ever been tois me and two girls, or
me and another girl and another couple. That's the biggest party I've been to.

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Then, aren't you still kind ofa little bit of a coward?
Nope, you could keep saying thatall you want, and you're never going
to get the answer you're looking for. Okay, I have a celebrity story
from when I lived on the EastCoast. Did you ever used to watch
firm hand spankings? Yes, okay, there's a top in there called Uncle

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Eric. Yeah, I know whohe is. You do know who that
is? Okay. I got amessage from someone on fet life who lived
five miles the way from me,and it was him, and I was
a little bit starstruck, and Iused to go and play with him every
other a week for a couple ofmonths. I was married to a vanilla

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person at the time, and thingsgot stressed and I wasn't able to keep
on seeing him. We did onespanking video together and he set up all
of his professional film equipment. AndI think I actually sent you this video.
Many years ago, there was avideo I saw from him. I
can't remember the girl's name, butI love that video basically because I love

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that girl. I can't remember hername. Is the only video I've ever
seen her in in my life life. I've even looked on the site to
see if there were more of herand there wasn't. But he made this
one video with this girl, andI was in love. And I have
no idea who she is now.And I believe I still have that video
saved because I was a member ofFirm Hand for a while, so I

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do have some of their videos stillsaved. And one is the guy you
were just talking about. That wasbefore I got into going to parties or
anything really, and he was areally good friend to me for a while.
That was a good little period oflife that I had. Was that
before me? Yep, it wasbefore you. Who was better at spanking?

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I don't know who is better.I'm just joking with you. I
have never met what I would considera celebrity spanko that I used to watch
in the videos. Now I've metpeople who are more popular in the scene,
but I have not met anyone thatI would consider, you know,
one of those old celebrity spankos.And I'm not even saying old because I'm

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older than Audrey Knight, but Iwould have loved to have met Audrey Knight.
They were popular, like fifteen yearsago, that's what you mean.
Amber Pixie Wells. She used togo to a few of the parties that
I was at too. I rememberseeing pictures of some of these parties and
all of those girls would be hangingout in one room and it was Audrey

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and Abigail and Amber Pixie Wells,and there were several other girls that were
the popular girls at the time.And I'm thinking that would be heaven to
be in this room with these girls, but obviously that's never going to happen.
Now. I'm surprised that with asmany girls as you've had contact you

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and want to be spanked by youbecause of the headspace that you create in
your videos, that you've never hadone of those celebrities come and want to
be spanked by you. I thinkthat they get spanked pretty much whenever they
want to. But if I didn'tmake any videos, I doubt anyone would
want to come and travel to me. You got to put yourself out there
and get known, so that's probablytrue. So back to the parties for

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a second. Maybe not for asecond, maybe it'll be longer than a
second. What are some of theactivities at some of these parties that are
unique to those specific parties that youlove. When you look at some of
the national ones, they're going tohave things like a school role play and
speed dating and different events. Somy favorite party, I would say,

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is Oasis, and one of thethings that they have that I liked the
first year, I didn't like itas much. The second year was called
role Play Roulette, so all ofthe tops get into a costume. The
bottoms do too, but the topsall sit in chairs throughout their room and
you go up to whoever you wantto play with and ask them to play.

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Now, I love fantasy sports.I love the build up the weeks
before the big fantasy draft because Igo back to Connecticut and all of my
friends are there, not all ofmy friends, but the ones that play,
and we're all gathered around. We'reall drinking, we're having pizza,
feeling like big shots. But beforethe draft, you know, the adrenalines

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flowing, you got these feeling inyour stomach. You're a little nervous hoping
that you get this great team thatyou want. And I would imagine the
feeling before a party has to besimilar. What are some of the things
you go through weeks leading up tothese parties. I definitely get super excited
for them too, And then theday of, when you're getting on the

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plane, it's such a happy feelingto know I'm gonna go and see my
friends and have some drinks and havesome fun, relax, get lots of
spanking, be with people who arelike me, and just be in banter
all day long, and get tobe my true, authentic self. It
is so fun. Guess what willhappen if you're not here when the show

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returns? What are you going todo? Spank me? Spank host,
Welcome back to the show. Haveyou ever gone with no game plan when
you first started going to these partiesand done too much spanking too fast?
I did go without a game planor without really knowing anybody to my first

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BBW, and I basically didn't reallyget any play at all because I just
couldn't find anybody. I didn't havea network of people or anything. I
did used to get played out atmy first parties that I went to.
I remember a specific one that Iwent to in New York. It was
a strictly spanking New York party.It was their Christmas party around I want

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to say twenty thirteen or twenty fourteen, and I had one friend in particular
who I loved playing with. Butevery time I came around the corner and
he was there, he would launchinto some role play and he'd start spanking
me, and I got to thepoint that I couldn't get spanked by anybody
else. And there were three orfour other people that I really had wanted

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to play with that I had tosay no because I was so played out
and I was so sore by theend of it. Do you get that
after party drop? Yeah? Iget that really bad. Does it last
more than just one day? Iwant to say that the process for it
is kind of like grief, whereit hits in waves. Sometimes you get

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a wave of it when you're atthe airport, and then sometimes you get
a wave of it the next dayyou're going from Disneyland, like the happiest
place on Earth, then just backto your mundane life where you're kind of
hidden. I feel like being aspanko is such a huge part of who
I am, and I have tohide that all the time in my day

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to day life. And then whenI get to be around other people like
me and just show my true self, and then I have to go back
into my cocoon under my mask.It is sad to have to go back
to that. You were just tellingme a story before we started this podcast,
and I know that you're doing sometraveling for these parties, you told

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me a story about having your luggagesearched when you had a certain implement in
the luggage. Tell me what happenedthere. I had a paddle. It
was from a vendor, and itlooked like a paddle. You couldn't play
it off as a hairbrush or somesort of a Jokari paddle. So wait
a second. So you had apaddle sitting in your suitcase and it looked

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like a paddle too. Yes,whoever made that did what they were supposed
to do, so go ahead.It wasn't like you could play it off
as a ping pong paddle or somethingelse. I don't know what else you
could think that it was. Itwasn't gonna look like a cheeseboard. It
looked like a paddle, and itwas on top of everything in my luggage.
So they just opened it up andthere it was, right there.

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Did anybody say anything? Kind ofhad an awkward moment sitting there and they
looked at it. They didn't pickit up or anything, and then they
just closed the suitcase and said,and here you go. But they didn't
look me funny. Did you feelyour face getting warm? No, it
wasn't that bad. This was severalyears ago, and I fly a lot
for work and for spanking parties,and I've not had that issue again.

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I did have I bring nipple clamswith me. I don't know why there's
in my hair dryer bag. Idon't put them on all the time or
anything, but that's just where Ikeep them, is my hair dryer bag.
And there was a period of timewhere every time I went through the
airport they were always checking my hairdryer bag and looking for them. Every
time it went through it flagged something. But they're still in there. In

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the past ten times i've flown,they haven't looked for that. But that
was a lot more awkward, eventhan the paddle. I would say,
do you think they look at thesethings and immediately think they're for nipples?
There was one, okay, Sothey opened the bag and looked inside,
and they didn't pick it up.And it was a guy that picked it

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up, and he was confused andhe wasn't sure what to think. And
he called over this lady and shelooked at it and she laughed, and
she closed it up and sent meon my way. What do you think
you'd rather be caught with in yourluggage, nipple clamps, or a whole
assortment of paddles. Probably nipple clamps. That's more normal than all the paddles.

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Honestly, have you ever had acrazy or scary experience when it comes
to spanking. I will say thatone time at a national party, we
were playing that roleplay Roulette, andthere was somebody who approached me the night
before that kind of gave me thecreeps and wanted to play, and I
said no. But then we wereplaying in the big public space, which

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is roleplay at Roulette, which isthe one where everybody's wearing costumes. I
felt bad for him because I shuthim down, and so I went up
to him to let him spank meet. You're so kilt. I let him
spank meet, And especially at somethinglike that, and the first time you
play with somebody, I would playwith panties up, and he didn't even

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ask, and he pulled my pantiesdown, and I didn't like that very
much, and I tried not tomake a scene and just get up and
leave. But that was probably mostuncomfortable thing at a party that I've had.
So you did just get up andleave? Yeah? And what did
he say? He didn't say anything. Did you run into him again during

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the party, Yeah, but Ijust ignored him. It wasn't like he
was somebody that was a constant threat. What are some complaints that you have
about the spanking scene, Probably justwith some bad behavior from the tops being
a little bit forward than that.I don't think there's any real big complaints.

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Are you talking about at the spankingparties. Yes, at the spanking
parties and then not felt life.There's always people that you don't know making
comments and being too familiar. Nomatter what you're doing on the internet,
you're always going to run into somejerks or crazy people or you know,
basically just assholes. And we aredefinitely not immune to that the spanking community

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exactly. But it's hard for womenwho are posting pictures of their body online
and then you have people coming andmaking comments on it. But you're absolutely
right when you put that on theinternet, there's going to be strangers on
the Internet that feel that they cansay whatever they want. So what do
you think would make things better inthe spanking community. What would you like

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to seed done. I know thatthe Oasis people have a newbiees event where
they try to talk to them aboutetiquette and how to approach people and how
not to approach people. I don'tknow if there's anything that the scene in
general can do. There's just alot of people in the scene that don't

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get it socially. I think thatpeople that don't get it socially never will.
And I don't think that they thinkthey're being obnoxious. I think that
that's just their regular way of acting. And if you tried to tell them
that what they're doing is wrong,I don't even think they would see it
your way. You're absolutely right,all right. So let's go a little

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lighter here from your crazy or scaryspanking experiences and complaints about the scene and
how you would make things better inthe scene, And let me just ask
you a nice, easy question thatsounds good. What is your all time
favorite spanking experience memory whatever you couldcome up with right now. My all

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time favorite is going to see thisguy in Connecticut that makes videos and getting
a good spank in at his house. This guy sounds like a very very
good man. He was incredible.I know that you're doing this to try
to butter me up. Maybe I'llask you easier questions, but is that

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really your all time favorite spanking experience. It's hard to give an all time
favorite because I've had so many verymemorable and awesome spanking experiences. Well,
then I will accept that as yourfinal answer. But once again, I
do have to go back to thebeginning and let everyone out there know that

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you gave one of the most fantasticbutt massages I've ever had in my life.
I'm glad that you enjoyed it somuch I did, and I would
like to put an order in foranother. But anyway, let's move on.
Sounds good. I got this quoteright from your fet life page.
You say that you don't really feelembarrassed when it comes to spanking. You

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were once spanked at a party inthe middle of a living room, but
felt no embarrassment that people were watching. If that isn't embarrassing, what is
it for you? I think thateverybody is taking this out of context.
Are you saying that I took somethingout of context from your page that I
am not one hundred percent right allthe time. I am absolutely saying but

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everybody is, okay, everybody's takingthis the wrong way. What I'm saying
in that writing is that the experiencethat I'm having when I'm getting spanked,
especially in that situation where I wasgetting spanked on a wet bear bottom with
a strap. It hurts so badthat I couldn't pay attention to anything except

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the pain that I was feeling,and everything that was outside of what I
was feeling was completely raised from mymind. I couldn't taken anything. I
couldn't have told you who was standingwhere My butt was on fire, and
that was the only thing that matteredto me in that moment. And I
couldn't have cared if I was standingthere naked without a towel. I had

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no idea what was going on becauseit hurt so bad. How did this
all come about? Me and oneother person decided that we wanted to go
out in the middle of the night, it was probably midnight or one am,
and have the thrill of taking herclothes off on the beach and running

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out in the water. And itwas super cold because this is November,
it was South Carolina. And thenwe wrapped ourselves in a towel and tried
to sneak back in the house andgot caught going back into the house,
and then we got spaked do youdo realize that the scenario you just told
me about is the exact beginning thatstarted the very first Jaws movie. I

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did not know that, and Idon't remember if both of them, but
at least one of the people thatwent into the water never came back.
Yeah, that's right. I haven'tseen that movie since I was a little
kid, but you're right. No, it was a couple that went out
there, and Jaws got at leastto one of them. You're right,

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definitely got the female of that group. That movie still lingers in my mind
today because I do not love goinginto the ocean. I've been in the
ocean. I don't really go toofar out in the ocean, but I
have definitely been the ocean, andJaws is always freshly on my mind when

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I'm in the ocean. The lastyear I was living out on the East
Coast, two people lost arms inNorth Carolina because the shark attacks were so
bad. So that actually isn't anunreasonable fear. They have a lot down
here about feat eating alligators, andI could see why, because if those
alligators get too comfortable with you,they will come up to you and look

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for food, and if you don'thave food, you probably are going to
become food. I actually lived inFlorida for three months and there was a
lady that was out going for ajog and she got taken by an alligator.
When I lived down there, Holycrap. I do remember one story
where a little dog got taken byan alligator and the woman went after the

(32:28):
alligator to get the dog back,rescues the dog, but the alligator took
her instead. I would make thesacrifice for my doggie. I think in
the heat of the moment, alot of people would. I don't know
if that's a good idea or not. I think that you might want to
cut your losses because it's not goingto end well, I know, but

(32:51):
you just feel a sense of wantingto protect your poor little puppy, and
I would feel guilt for the restof my life exactly. You'd feel horrible
for the rest of your life.This took a turn from spanking. It
definitely took a turn from spanking.And I'm going to turn the wheel and
get us right back into it.So are you saying you don't really get

(33:12):
embarrassed when you are being spanked.It's not that I wouldn't be embarrassed.
It's just that the pain is sooverwhelming that I can't even pay attention or
care about anything else. How Aboutleading up to the spanking knowing you're going
to get one, other people knowingyou're going to get one, getting over
the knee or having to bend overthat part has to be a little embarrassing

(33:35):
until that pain starts. At thatpoint, I have more fear and I'm
so anxious about the pain that isabout to happen that it's the same thing
that I don't care. But thenafter the fact, when it's all done,
then I will start to have thosefeelings of embarrassment when I'm not fearing

(33:55):
imminent pain and when I'm not experiencingpain, and then I can start to
have the emotion of embarrassment. Now, it also says on your profile you
don't cry from guilt during your punishments, and you never feel sorry for what
you did to get the punishment.Tears from you only come from the fear
of the impending pain that is comingor the actual pain. In impeccable detail,

(34:22):
I need you to tell me thestory about the strip club, cigarette
vending machine and the ride home Okay, so a bunch of us got an
airbnb. We went to a stripclub. We were drinking quite a bit.
Hold On, hold on, werethese males and females not to strip
club the people you went to thestrip club with. The group was a

(34:45):
group of both male and females,but the strippers were all females. Perfect
continue. When I'm drinking, Iget that urge that I want to have
a cigarette really bad, and therewas another girl in the group that also
want one. I know that Iwouldn't be allowed to have that. I
was there with a person that Ihave a dynamic with, and I completely

(35:08):
one hundred percent agree. I wouldwant them to stop me from smoking,
because I've had periods in my lifewhere I've been addicted to cigarette and it's
really hard to quit. It's thishuge undertaking once you have the addiction to
try to break that and chew thegum and whatever and be done with it.

(35:29):
And the times that I have gottenaddicted to cigarette, it's always started
where I was drinking and I gota pack and I had one, and
then the next day or a coupledays later, I had a craving because
I had had one. A fewdays ago, and then I wanted to
have another one, and then thenext thing you know, I'm doing this
and I don't want to be doingit, but in the moment, I

(35:52):
really really wanted one, and sodid this other person that I was with,
and we went up to the vendingmachine. The cigarettes are ten dollars
in this vending machine, and we'retrying to be sneaky and trying to go
quick, but we don't have aten dollar bill because we're at a strip
club. All we have is abunch of ones. So I'm taking out
ones and she's handing me ones,and we're slowly putting these ones in.

(36:15):
We got nine dollars in, andthe guy I have my dynamic with comes
around the corner and catches us andsays, what are you doing? We
put nine dollars in this machine andI didn't get the cigarettes, and I
was wanting one so bad, andwe were so close. My nine dollars
is gone and it's sitting in thatmachine, and I got taken by the

(36:38):
arm out to the car, andthen we're driving back to the Airbnb and
he's starting to go on about howmuch trouble I'm in, And this is
the person that hass the limits withme and pushes me beyond my comfort zone,
and he is totally justified in completelywhipping my butt. And I was

(36:59):
realized how screwed I was and howbad it was going to be, and
it scared me so bad that Istarted crying on the way home. And
part of that was probably because Iwas drinking a lot that night, and
he didn't spank me when we gotback, and part of that is because
part of being a safe player isif somebody's intoxicated, you're not going to

(37:19):
spank them. So we waited untilthe next day, and then I got
it the next day, but Ithought I was going to get it right
when we got home, and that'swhy I was freaking out in the car
and lost my mind a little bitand started crying. Were there other people
in the same place you guys werestaying. There were other people in the
airbnb, but we were the onlyones in the bedroom at the time that

(37:39):
he was spanking me, and everyonethere was a SPANKO. Oh yeah,
So it's really not as embarrassing thatyou're getting a spanking, But do you
feel a little awkward when you walkout knowing everyone heard everything that just happened.
People don't really make a big sceneout of looking at you because so
many people get at these parties.It's not really out of the ordinary.

(38:02):
There's like a spanking going on everyfive minutes. But I have had people
say I heard what happened in there, and I really felt bad for you,
and that's always really awkward. Thatis the one unfortunate thing about the
spanking scene is that you know,obviously you don't want people who aren't into

(38:22):
spanking to hear this going on.But wouldn't it be really cool if this
was totally accepted and you had towalk out into a group of people who
are totally cool with what happened,but they're not spankos and feel that embarrassment.
No, I'm glad things are theway they are. I think it

(38:45):
would be cool, But I wouldalso be embarrassed if I was the one
giving the spanking, because if I'mgiving someone a spanking and someone walked into
my front door, it's going tobe maybe not just as embarrass for me
as the person getting the spanking,but it still is a little awkward because

(39:05):
now I have some splain and todo. I just want to go back
to the part where you never feelguilty about what you did when you're getting
the spanking. I can't think ofa time that I really did. I
mean, I have found that ifI get spanked, I am afraid to
do it again because I don't wantto get spanked for that reason again,

(39:27):
how would you describe your pain tolerance. I see a lot of people in
the scene that take a lot morethan I do, but I have been
told that I can take more thanI think I can take. Because I
don't really know how to answer that, I guess I think that's pretty much
any spank go out there. Imean, some people obviously know that they
are hardcore when it comes to this, but just about every single girl that

(39:50):
comes to me for the first timeis so worried that they're not going to
be able to take a spanking,and before they know it, they are
knee deep in a pretty hard spankand they're just having the time of their
life. I have found that allit takes the hand spanking for me,
and that's plenty to get me everythingI need out of it, and then

(40:14):
any implements that really overkill I canverrely even tolerate them. I would have
no problem at all just giving handspankings for the rest of my life.
I love them. That's the thingI've wanted to see in videos forever.
I don't mind implements. I useimplements, but if all I could see

(40:34):
is great hand spankings for the restof my life, I would be okay
with that. Do you like whenthe person you're spanking is in a lot
of pain and reacting or is itkind of neutral for you or you just
like the sensation of the bottom againstyour hands. I'm not really one that
I really need to give pain.I like to give the person what they're

(40:57):
looking for because I'm not really intothe disc diciplinary aspect of it. But
I will do it for someone ifthat's what they want. I pretty much
just like the whole smacking sound,the visual, and just spanking. I
don't need a reason to do it. I just love doing it, and
I don't really need to cause painat all. I kind of knew that

(41:17):
about you a little bit, butI wasn't sure. If you listen to
my podcast a little more often thanyou do, you would probably have been
able to answer that question for yourself. I'll have to start listening more.
I'm sorry, don't feel like youhave to do anything you don't want to
just because I said so. Idon't you sit there during this commercial break

(41:43):
and think about what you have done. Shame on you, shame now try
to behave yourself during the rest ofthe podcast. What is something that you
absolutely know would drive people crazy thatyou would regularly get a spank for,
like annoying kind of habits that justget under people's skin bingo. I don't

(42:05):
know. I think I'm pretty easyto live with. So you're saying you
never deserve a disciplinary spanking for anyregular behavior, not for any regular annoying
behavior. I don't like this question. I'm going to move on. Okay,
when was your last disciplinary spanking andwhat was it for. It was

(42:25):
a couple of weeks ago at theOasis party, and it was also for
smoking when I was drinking. Whatwas it given with? It was just
a handspanking and it was definitely hardenough. I cried at the end.
No implements were needed and it wascompletely a punishment because it was so hard.

(42:47):
What's your favorite implement? It's kindof a love to hate. I
don't know if I can call itmy favorite, but my favorite and also
my least favorite because it causes themost pain. Is this Miss Rose paddle
that I gave as a gift tomy top, and it has very special
meaning. I don't know if you'veever heard of these hair brushes. It's

(43:10):
called a New West hair brush.I actually just saw a video where I
was spanked by Uncle Eric ten orso years ago, and I didn't even
realize he was spanking me with oneof these New West hair brushes. They
used to sell them at the nationalspanking parties at the vendors fairs, and

(43:31):
I saw them there. I neverended up getting one. I didn't think
two thoughts about it. And thenNew West went out of business and nobody
can find these hair brushes from theirvideos anywhere, but there are a few
of them out in circulation that somepeople have. My friend that spanks me

(43:51):
wanted one of these hair brushes reallybad for Christmas one year, and I
wanted to get in one, andI searched high and low. I called
everybody I could think of. Ican't figure out who made them. You
can't get into contact with anybody.The closest I could get was Miss Rose.
She has a friend who has oneof those New West hairbrushes, and

(44:12):
she did a tracing of it andmeasured how thick it was. And she
has a line of paddles that's thesame dimensions as that New West hairbrush that
you can't buy anymore that everybody wants. And she'll use different kinds of wood
to make these paddles, so they'redifferent heaviness levels and they're different colors.
And I gave that as a giftbecause I couldn't find the New West hairbrush,

(44:37):
but actually as an implement, I'vebeen spanked with both, and I
actually think that the Miss Rose oneis a little bit meaner because it's made
out of a heavier wood, whichyou could get one made out of a
lighter wood. It does hit justright and it feels really good in the
hand, so I totally get whythat is such a coveted implement. And

(44:58):
this is not an ad from Rose. I don't get any sort of profit
share room Miss Rose, but shejust has literally the finest craftsmanship of any
vendor I've ever seen. She takesthe wood and she makes whatever shape she's
going to make, and she standsit down with the finest sand papers that

(45:19):
it just makes the surface of thewood so smooth. And then she doesn't
use any sort of shiny coat orany lacquer anything. I think for her
care instructions. She just tells youto oil it every once in a while.
It's so smooth. If you usea lacquer product, I don't know
if it's lacquer the right word,like a stain or whatever, but if

(45:40):
you use something like that, it'ssticky. So if you're getting spanked with
that, it's sticking on you,whereas hers glide across your skin better.
They're just really high quality implements,and then it also hurts really bad.
For that reason, I hate it, and it's my most hated implement,
but it's also I feel like thebest implement. I don't know if you

(46:02):
have seen my pictures recently, butI posted something on my Twitter, on
my fet life and on my Instagram. I had three old bath brushes.
I had a grill scraper, andI had a Jakari paddle, and I
got some stain and some polyurethane andI made some fine paddles. And now

(46:25):
that you told me that this finishis not going to be the same feeling
as this Miss Rose Paddle, Inow feel like I have let down the
spanking community. I did see thatpost and I commented that they were gorgeous,
and they were. They are sobeautiful. I don't even want to
use them. But I've already failedat that because I've used every single one

(46:46):
of them to try them out.I'm sure they're awesome. I will never
be the one that feels them,but I will definitely be the one that
utilizes them. I don't mind partimplements like that over pants. I think
it actually feels good, but thenonce the pants come down and you feel
it on the bare skin that itis just way too overwhelming. If you

(47:09):
listen to my podcast, you wouldknow that I absolutely love spanking over clothing.
Really yeah, I love that.I love it because when I was
growing up, all the girls werewearing the tight designer jeans Jeorde Ash and
Sergio and Sassoon back in the day, and they would wear these pants until
they were literally disintegrating off of theirbodies. They were so thin, and

(47:34):
I loved it. Again. Iknow I say this all the time,
but I would do that for therest of my life if that's all I
was allowed. To do. Iwould spank girls over tight jeans or stretch
pants or stretch shorts for the restof my life and be totally happy.
Well, you can spank me overpants any day. That sounds fantastic.

(47:55):
Perhaps soon, maybe possibly exactly?What is a phrase you'd love to hear
during a spanking? I do likebeing called young lady. Is there anything
that someone could say during a spankingthat will take you totally out of the
headspace of the spanking you're in.I don't like the word ass, and

(48:15):
I don't like any swearing. Sowith me because I'm the one giving the
lecture. If I'm giving a disciplinaryspanking, I'm obviously not going to say
anything that would take me out ofit, and I'm hoping I never say
something that takes the girl out ofit. So far, so good.
I don't think anyone's ever said please, don't say that to me again,
which is nice. And I don'treally say ass. Maybe if we're just

(48:38):
joking around, I may be talkingto them or whatever, But if I'm
in a disciplinary spanking, I don'tsay stuff like your ass is grass,
that I'm a lawed mower. That'smy father's saying for back in the day.
I try to keep it, Iguess traditional. I feel like you
give really good dialogue and really goodscolding in your videos, and it's been

(49:00):
a long time since I have watchedyour videos. I'm sorry to say.
I was a huge fan back inthe day, and then once I started
getting spanked, I didn't need towatch the videos anymore because I had what
I needed and I didn't need toget my thrills from that. But I
started watching you because somebody who Iwas talking to, who was another bottom,

(49:21):
she told me, oh, you'vegot to check out this guy on
Spanking two because by a good spankingand he gives these really awesome scolding.
And then I started watching those andthey became my favorite video. And that's
when I started reaching out to you. Well, thank you very much for
the compliment. I'm glad that youenjoyed me at one point of your life

(49:42):
and don't need me anymore. Sorry, you're irrelevant, I'm sure I am,
you know. I think that that'swhat happens. Though. When I
was younger, I could watch spankingvideos all day long and never get tired
of them. But now I don'twatch them as much as I used to
because you know I'm doing it allthe time now exactly. I used to

(50:04):
have memberships to spanking sites and watchspanking Tube all day long. I never
go on sites and watch spanking videosanymore. I had memberships on so many
sites. I was Shadow Lane,Punished Brats, Firm Hand, Dallas,
Spank's Hard, Audrey's site. Ican't remember what her site was. It

(50:25):
was like Spanking three sixty or somethinglike that. Oh yeah, Oh my
god. I totally forgot about that. Raven Hill. I like those girls
because those were the girls I wasreally into. They got those girls that
you look at, I mean,you're like, that girl's a bad girl,
even in real life. And Ilove those types of girls. And
Michael Masterson on real spankings. Ilove his girls and I love his videos.

(50:52):
I think he gives a fantastic spanking. But now you've got girls coming
out of the woodwork want in spankings, and I am very thankful for anyone
that actually wants to come and visitme. But you don't need to watch
those videos anymore because you've got yourown girls. I have a couple of
thumb drives full of videos that Isave from over the years from all these

(51:15):
sites that I belong to, andon occasion I do break them out and
I play some of my all timefaves. Have you ever given a spanking?
I do top every now and then. Do you spank both males and
females? Yes, I do.Do you give disciplinary spankings? No,

(51:36):
I don't give disciplinary spankings. IfI switch, I'm just putting on the
hat for a moment, and Ido more role play kind of things.
So when I bought them, Ireally like a dynamic, but when I
top, I only like to justkind of be a top and wear the
hat. Have you ever been spankedby a female? I have many times.

(51:59):
One of the most memorable ones Ihave they have a friend and she
gave me a really good bedtime spankingwhere it was light spanks and then nice
tickley rubs and more nice spanks thatjust make you melt into whatever service you're
laying on. And she always saysshe wants to give me another one,

(52:21):
and I always say that I wantanother one, And even though we see
each other all the time, wesay we're going to do that again this
time, and every time I findher, she's busy, and then she
finds me and I'm busy, andthen we never get to do it.
Have you ever gotten a disciplinary spankingby a female? No, I haven't.
Back to your fet Life profile,it says on your profile you consider

(52:44):
yourself single and ready to mingle whatwould be your perfect relationship? Unlike you
who just likes But there's a lotof people in this scene who like what's
called a dynamic, which is whereone person is the bas and it's kind
of a twenty four to seven thingthat's running in the background. It's just

(53:06):
a dominant who has the other person'sbest interest as their number one priority.
And that's kind of what I wouldwant in a long term relationship. So
basically a domestic discipline relationship. Yes, so back when I was just dating
vanilla girls, that's kind of whatI want in a spanker relationship because I'm

(53:29):
not really a disciplinarian where I wantto walk around all day punishing somebody for
things that they've done in the house, because I'm not getting punished for anything
that I'm doing in the house.Not that I want that, but when
I was dating vanilla girls, prettymuch it was all on my terms.
When I wanted to give a spanking. But now that I hang around with

(53:50):
a bunch of girls that are intospanking, I feel pressure that I have
to give spankings more often because withthe vanilla girls, they're just taking what
I'm giving them because they want thatbutt massage after. And I think that
eventually they do kind of like gettingthe spanking too, but I know that
they love the butt massages after.So I think the dynamic that I had

(54:10):
with vanilla girls was awesome for me. Not that spanking spankos is not awesome,
because it is freaking great and Iget plenty of opportunity to do it,
but I feel like I have tobe on all the time and I
don't want to disappoint them, whereasa vanilla girl, I know I'm not
really disappointing them because they're really notlooking for anything specific when it comes to

(54:34):
spanking. That totally makes sense.When was what you would consider your first
spanking experience? I was fourteen orfifteen years old. Wait a second,
fourteen or fifty You know what though, my first spanking experience was at thirteen,
So go ahead continue, Well,this boy was thirteen or fourteen because

(54:59):
he was one year youngnger than me. So, yeah, I wasn't thinking
that you were meeting up with athirty year old man. No. So
I met this boy online and weformed a relationship, and he was the
first person that I told about myspanking fetish. I lived in the Midwest

(55:21):
and he lived in Atlanta and wewere in a long distance online relationship for
almost a year and we used tohave spanking scenes and he would cyberspank me
on a Oh my God. Sowe both told our parents about each other,
and he asked his dad if hecould come see me, and his

(55:43):
dad bought them plane tickets and bookeda hotel room and brought him out so
he could come see me. Iwas never in a very religious family,
but my family did have me gothrough Confirmation when I was a teenager.
When we were in Confirmation, oneof the fun things that we had was
we had a sleepover at this church. Well it was co ed boys and

(56:06):
girls, a bunch of fourteen fifteenyear olds. He came out that weekend
and I asked if I can takehim to this co ed sleepover at the
church, and our parents led usand we snuck off in the church up
to so there was like a bigbalcony where the choir would sit and the
choir would sing up there. Thenthere's this back room behind it, and

(56:29):
he spanked me in that back room. Also while he was there, we
went for a walk and we founda wooded area and went out in the
wooded area and he spanked me inthe wood area. But that was my
story of my first banking experience,and it all went downhill from there.
I had really bad luck finding goodpartners after that, but that one was

(56:50):
pretty good. You peaked at fifteenyears old. There are so many questions
I have, but I'm not goingto ask them all. But my parents
would never have gone along with anyof this. Nothing, not one thing
you said would have happened if Iconsulted my parents about my online relationship.

(57:12):
There's no way I can't believe thatactually happened. We were in love.
Maybe that's why I have had Imean, I've got great luck in the
scene now, but I went throughmost of my twenties not having good spanking
luck, and sometimes I wonder ifI was being smited because I got spanked.

(57:35):
I don't go to church anymore,but I also made my confirmation.
But when I would be in churchhaving these impure thoughts. Even when I'm
at a wedding or a funeral,I'm thinking, what is God thinking about
me right now? So I don'twant to know what happened after these spankings
as far as after care, butI do want to know what would you

(57:57):
describe as a great after care session. What I really like is a really
light touch where you're barely touching theperson at all, and just kind of
caressing on my back and on mylegs, and probably not if I just
had a really hard punishment spanking,my butt's going to be really sensitive,

(58:19):
so I'd rather not have those caresseson my butt until it's cooled down a
little bit, but just on myback and on my legs and eventually on
my butt, just really really lighttouching and caressing. That is exactly what
you gave me for a very verylong time, way back when in twenty
fifteen. It's amazing, isn't it? It was awesome. What advice would

(58:45):
you give other people that are havinga hard time accepting all this spanko stuff
that's going on in their heads.It's not going to go away no matter
how ashamed you are of it.You can't get rid of it. So
step one would be, if you'redating vanilla people, stop that's only going

(59:06):
to hurt them because they're never goingto be able to satisfy you and it's
not fair to them. Get yourselfa fet life profile, start posting on
it, Start getting out to partiesand meeting other people who are like you,
because there are other people who arelike you, and you're going to
be much happier if you find them. Mikaela, I totally agree, and

(59:30):
I want to try to hook youup with someone even better than this fifteen
year old that you had so manyyears ago as your first spanking experience.
So guys out there, read herprofile on fet life and you could find
it. Use the minus sign andthen it's m I k a e l

(59:52):
A minus sign again and you willfind her. Read through her profile.
You could go look gets some verycute pictures and she's got some interesting writings
there. But send her a messageand maybe you can outdo this first experience
she had way back when. PerhapsI'll have you back when you find this

(01:00:14):
love connection from fet life and fromthis podcast. Thank you. I don't
know if i'd thank me now,because I don't know what kind of people
are going to be emailing you,but hopefully you will be thanking me for
all the right reasons sometime soon.If you can go back in any time
in history to receive a disciplinary spanking, what time period would it be and

(01:00:37):
why? I think I like justthe classic nineteen fifties, the I Love
Lucy and leave it to Beaver era. I don't quite think that Ward was
ever spanking June, but we knowthat Ricky was definitely spanking Lucy. I
also think Ward was a little hardon the Beaver a couple of times.

(01:00:59):
I've heard that Joe before, andwe don't talk like that on this podcast.
You No, No, I'm keepingit right in because that is a
very bad joke. You could onlychoose one for the rest of your life,
discipline or fund spankings. What areyou choosing? Discipline? You could

(01:01:22):
go the rest of your life withoutever getting another fun spanking. No,
but it'd be harder to go withoutgetting a disciplinary spanking. All right,
last question for you? Are youready? Yes, you can only choose
one for the rest of your life, spanking or sex. What is it

(01:01:42):
thinking? And I'm not taking awayself gratification because that's just cruel and unusual
punishment. All right, Michaela,you have been a very good sport and
I want to thank you so muchfor being on this podcast. I really
loved the visit you made back intwenty fifteen. It was great for me.

(01:02:05):
I still remember that to this day. Hopefully we could do it again
sometime. Do you have anything you'dlike to say to the people before we
leave, Live, Long, andProsper. That is a great ending anyway,
why don't you say goodbye to everybody? Bye, everybody, thanks for
tuning in. All right, everybody, thanks a lot for listening to another

(01:02:25):
episode of the Never too Old fora Good Spanking Podcast. I will see
you next time. And, asMikaela said, Live Long, and Prosper,