Mookie & Numbers Guy Part 1

Talking spanking with Mookie and Numbers Guy

Episode Transcript

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the support that everybody has been showingme. Now, my next guest was

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referred to me by a common friend. She is thirty seven years old and
lives into Toronto, Ontario, Canadaarea. She is a hardwired spanko,
a brat, and a switch,but she is in a relationship, people,
so get any of those thoughts rightout of your filthy little minds.

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She's not looking for doms or topsat the moment, but she does have
a little side business as a professionaldom. So if you're interested in submitting
to her, that info will beprovided later in the podcast. Now,
don't go fast forwarding just to findout, or you will be punished accordingly.
Without any further uninterrupted blabbering by me, I'd like to introduce to the

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podcast right now my new friend MookyMOOKI, how are you doing today or
tonight or whatever it is? Whatis it six o'clock right now? Both
of our times? How are youdoing. I am doing great. How
are you doing? I am doinggreat. I want to thank you in
advance for doing this podcast. Iknow you're going to sound great because you

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built your off a nice little tentto sit in, and he used to
build a blanket fort. Do youbuild blanking forts? Often? Not as
much as I should. I ama mommy dom for my pro work,
so I feel like I've got agood excuse to do it. And it's
also October. It's good under ablanket fort reading Halloween, scary stories,
weather, so I don't even needthe excuse. Do you think you will

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keep your blanket tent up until afterHalloween? Given that is taking over the
side of the bed that I sleepon in this room that I'm in.
I don't think I can. Butyou know what I think I can do
better. I think I can buildit better, faster, stronger. Well,
you built one now, so youknow all the pitfalls and you will
know what to avoid next time whenyou could struct one. Yeah. Absolutely,

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this is just a starter. Myforever blanket Ford is still coming,
all right, everyone out there.You can find her on fet life.
Her screen name on there is MookieDarling. That is mo Kie d LNG
and that is all one word.There you'll find plenty of great pictures and

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a few spanking tube links where youcan actually go and watch her getting some
delicious spankings, so make sure youcheck all those out. Mookie, Are
you ready to get started with thiswhole thing? I am, and thank
you so much for having me onhere in for that fantastic introduction. Do
you know the common friend that referredyou to me? I do. She

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is on She's off fet life,so I'm not even sure if I could
say her name right now. Soas long as you know her and I
know her, no one else needsto know her. No. But she's
fantastic and I'm really so grateful thatshe referred me for this. She is
awesome. She actually came down heremaybe a year ago. I met her
when I was living up in Connecticut. She would come up to see me

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a couple times. And just likeyou, she is tall. And I
love spanking tall girls because they lookso long over your lap. When you
spank these short girls, they fiton your lap perfectly. You girls do
too, But you girls are yourfeet are down on the ground, your

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heads are down on the ground.You're just so long. I love it.
I'm glad to hear that. WhenI first entered the scene, I
felt like a bit of an ox. I'm almost five to eleven, and
I feel like so many people wantthat helpless You know, her feet are
dangling, they can't touch the floor, and I'm like, I can dangle,
but it takes a pretty big guy, and I didn't want to emasculate
anybody, so I felt very selfconscious about that. So it's really refreshing

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to hear you say that. Yeah, I don't think you have any problems
with that. I think you're worryingabout absolutely nothing. But if you do
have a problem with people wanting youto dangle, just have them spank you
over a barstool. Yeah, that'sdone. Or the leg lift where they
put one leg up on the chair. I've had that a couple of times.
Oh that's a good one. Alot of girls like that position,

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and a lot of guys like givinggirls in that position. Do you have
a favorite all time movie or televisionshow that you can quote from and you've
watched it several times. Do youhave one of those? Oh? Yes,
definitely, several of them. Canyou name one your most favorite probably

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an Australian show called Please Like Me. I have never heard of this show.
Do you have any that I wouldbe familiar with? Flea Bag,
Rick and Morty arrested development. Istarted watching Flea Bag, but then I
did not have that channel anymore forsome reason, and the first few episodes
were great. My friends are sointo it that they have a script book.

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We go hard on that. Haveyou watched that several times? I'm
trying to do the thing where Idon't overwatch it. Like if I watch
something every three years or so,it stays relatively fresh, but if you
binge it, then you don't getto watch it for like ten years or
sick of it. So I'm tryingto space it out. Are there any
spankings in that series? She's definitelyinto some kinky sex things a couple of

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times, but I can't remember aspecific spanking scene. Have you been watching
that series and you thought, Wow, this person right here could really use
a spanking right now? Yeah,definitely. My sister always jokes that the
main character is kind of a combinationof the worst qualities of the two of
us. She's like, she's selfdestructive like her, but a little bit

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full of herself like I tend tobe. I'm like, yeah, she
could definitely stand to be spanked.It might be character building. So I
was reading on your fet life profileand I think you have a very interesting
career. I'm not quite sure ifthis is your career, But do you
draw for a living? Yes?In my vanilla life, it's kind of
half of what I do at thispoint, but yes, I do draw

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for a living. What is theother half that you do? Been dawming
professionally? Oh? Okay, soyou have really two jobs that plus the
online content. It feels like threeat the moment a little bit. But
every day something for something creative.Seeing that you draw for a living,
now, I was a firefighter fora living, but I never brought my
work home because that would be ridiculous. Do you like to draw when you're

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home. Most of the work thatI do professionally is digital work, so
I sit at a tablet and it'svery different from organic drawing. I find
organic drawing and doodling very relaxing andseparate, so I do like to do
it, but I tend to producedoodles more than finished drawings. Have you
ever attempted to draw a spanking scene. Absolutely. I have one partner who

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lives far away, and for awhile we had an arrangement where he would
pay for my guess when I cameto visit him, if I would do
him a spanking drawing while it wasthere. If I could draw, and
I could draw the human body perfectly, because I've seen people where it's incredible
the way that they can draw ahuman body. If I could do that,

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I would make spanking comic books andprobably make a fortune off of these
things because people love that stuff.Yeah. I hear that a lot from
people. What a waste You're nottwenty four to seven drawing spanking art?
Why did the universe give you thistalent? That's all I would do with
it. I was thinking to myself, how can I have someone draw me
these pictures and I just make upto stories. But I know that I'm

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cheating them because my part would beso easy and their part would be so
detailed. Yeah, it's definitely abig investment. I've had people ask for
spanking commissions and I'm tempted to takeit, but it is a really big
time investment, and there's always anxietywhen you're doing something on commission about is
your vision going to be in linewith what they're really looking for. I

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also see that you like to dabblein fiction and poetry. And before I
go on about this, I don'tknow why I can't remember these too,
and I promise I'm not an idiot. But for those of you out there
that constantly mix up fiction and nonfiction, like myself, fiction is the fake
one. So you liked dabble infiction and poetry. What do you like

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to write about for fiction? Ilike to write sci fi and fantasy things.
I like to use technological discoveries ortheories to explore parts of the human
condition, So things like what ifyou live forever? What if you can
make a digital copy of yourself?It's interesting to explore this in a world
where this is possible and you dokind of a thought experiment. So that's

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sort of my main thrill with scifi and fantasy. I just find the
world building and the speculation of itreally interesting. Do you watch any Quentin
Tarantino movies? I do. WithQuentin Tarantino. He is fascinated by women's
feet, Yes he is. Ifyou watch his movies, he will always
have one of the actresses. Youwill see a full on picture of their

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feet. They'll be doing something withtheir feet, or they'll just be dangling
there. So that's his thing.He loves feet. So with your writings,
do you like to mix in atleast a little spanking with every single
thing you write. As soon asI entered the scene, my writing went
to crap because I'm just I'm toobusyking out there playing with people. I

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feel like writing for a lot ofus comes very much from a place of
loneliness and longing. So I dida lot of it before I entered the
scene, before I was engaged inthis. But it's funny you ask,
because one of the last pieces thatI wrote during COVID it was a very
rough time for all of us.But I wrote an eighty five thousand word
Harry Potter fanfic that was like aSeverus Snape romance and it was just me

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processing my sexuality. It was justabout a Severus snape. I don't know
if you're familiar with the Harry Potterseries, but him coming to terms with
his sadistic nature because he meets awoman who bears an uncanny resemblance to me,
who is a spank. Well,she's not openly I wasn't quite very
yet, so she's a submissive butvery okay with her sexuality, trying to

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bring him out. And the onlysort of play scene in the entire thing
is an over the knee spanking scene. Like it's so obviously a spank over
written scene, but that's the onlyone. And I think it was only
because I wrote it anonymously and publishedit on a fan fiction website and no
one I know has ever read itexcept people into the spanking scene, so

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that anonymity let me write what Ineeded to write in that case. This
guy from Harry Potter, wasn't hethe one dating Harry Potter's mother? He
wanted to be dating Harry Potter's mother. But I feel like he comes up
all the time. Spanke's love SeverusSnape. He's a big one, just
because he's like a good guy butcomes off as like a bad guy.
And he's the teacher. He's verystrict, he's very Yeah, Ceverus Snape

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has got to be like one ofthe top characters on the list of fantasy
people that you want to be spankedby if you're a female spanky interested in
male spankers. That's funny because ifyou listen to my last podcast, well,
by the time this one comes out, it'll be the one before the
last. But if you listen tothe one with Pippa, that is the
guy she wants to be spanked by. I listened to that one and I

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thought, oh my gosh, that'sso funny. She really made me laugh
with that. That's the extent Ireally know about Harry Potter. Besides you
two talking about it. That's aboutall I know. I know what he
looks like on the movies, butI have never seen any of the movies.
The closest thing I've seen to aHarry Potter movie is when I was
watching a movie with Vince Vaughan andOwen Wilson where they played that game that

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Harry Potter plays. What's it calledQuidditch, that's it with the brooms and
everything. Yeah, that's the one. I forget the name of the movie.
But they were trying to work forGoogle and in some competition they had
to play that game. But that'sthe extent I know of Harry Potter.
Now. Also on your profile,I saw that you play do you play

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several instruments? I say that Iplay several instruments at a camp fire level,
so I can make chords, Butthe purpose of instruments for me has
always been mostly as an accompaniment instrument, Like I like to sing, if
I can play enough to make thebackground chords on a guitar or a piano.
I learned bass because some friends wejust said, you know, for

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the mountain we spend going out forbeers on a weekend, we could just
rent rehearsal space and bring our ownbeers. So we just started up a
band, and we had three guitaristsand three singers, and so one of
us learned drums and one of uslearned bass. But it's very amateur.
It's very social and just playful,like I'm not hoping to get a record
dealer. There's never been that pressureof that expectation on it. Back in

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my pre video posting life, Iwas a singer in a rock and roll
band. I can believe that you'vegot a good voice, Well, thank
you very much. I was actuallya singer when I was in my late
teens, kind of mid teens tolate teens. I was in a heavy
metal band, and then after thatit was mostly just classic rock, you

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know, rock band. But whenI was in that metal band, we
actually made a four track demo.I wrote two of those songs way way
way back when, and I listenedto the demo not too long ago,
and boy, it's almost embarrassing whenI hear it, because I was a

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teenager then. You know. Butthese people that you get together with and
play are they all spankos? No, these are my vanilla friends. I'm
guessing you're the same way. Yourband people probably are people that you know
in a different kind of communal senseoutside of the spankle realm. There are
several of my friends who still haveno idea what I do here. They

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wonder how I fill my days.I can't tell them that I, oh,
you know, I edit spanking podcasts, I make videos, I visit
with girls for spankings, all thatstuff. I can't tell some of them.
They're probably thinking, and I'm sittingdown here with such a boring life.
This is the thing that comes upwith me all the time. Do

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you ever feel frustrated that you're afascinating person that has this interesting life,
same as I do. With thedomework and with the scene and everything.
You go to a party, though, and you're just like, I can't
tell you all of the interesting thingsI'm doing. You just have to kind
of sit with being framed as aboring person. Sometimes that is true,
but I could usually hold a conversationwith anyone. But I don't know if

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some of them would find what Ido all that fascinating. I think some
of them would actually find it.Well, you know, some people are
very judgmental, so I think thatsome people would probably think I was a
little ill. That's unfortunate. Solet's just say that me and you and
a couple other spankos got a bandtogether. I love this. What would

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we call ourselves? Ooh, Honestly, I think that it should be something
with the initials OTK, because Ithink it was you and doctor Eve talked
about having a spanco sort of likemarker when you're going out and around the
world, And I have tried doingan OTK button. Sometimes I get chicken
and I take it off. Butif we were some kind of band where
the acronym for the band was OTK, and then old spancos could wear our

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buttons and it would just be banned. It's just like, oh, it's
just this band. I like,that's this, but the initials are there,
and I could just see the initialsright on the bass drum. Yes,
right behind me as the lead singerand you as the co lead singer.
See what I just did. Ididn't take all the glory for myself.

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I'm giving you some glory too,because I want to hear some of
your tasty solos. Also. Ohwell, thank you. I specialize in
backup harmonies and accompaniment instruments, soyou can be the front man. I
am a very good supporter. Ihave an idea for a first song,
and I also have an idea fora little game. I would like to

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play with you right now. Ooh, I like that. Is your man
around somewhere? He is. Yeah, he'd actually like to say hi to
you before this is over. Doeshe mind if evolve him for a very
short segment? He would absolutely lovethat. Yeah, that's fun. Can
you please bring in your significant other? Oh? Numbers go one thousand,
Yes, I can you requests yourparticipation in the activity. Guess what will

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happen if you're not here when theshow returns? What are you gonna do?
Spank me? Spank host? Welcomeback to the show. We're both
here, all right, So Mookieis still there, and we also have
from fet life a young man callednumbers Guy. One thousand that's spelt just
like it sounds, numbers Guy,and then one thousand after it. We're

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about to play a game, andI heard that you might want to come
in and get involved a little bit, So that's what I'm doing right now.
We're about to play a game,and that game is called and this
is actually gonna be the first songfrom our new spankle band that we're putting
together. You were starting a band, So the very first song that we're

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going to do is a song calledSmack that Ass. And that's the game
we're going to play. Right now. I'm going to ask Mooky some questions
about her favorite series, Fleabag,and I'm going to ask her three to
five questions. Three if she getsall three wrong, five if I can't
stump her, and hopefully we canget a few smacks out of this.

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So Numbers got you are going tobe given the smacks, obviously, Mookie,
you will be receiving the smacks.Is this is this? This game
is okay with both of you?Yeah, we can do it. I
wish i'd refreshed on Fleabag, butI'm ready. I'm good. That's why
I was not going to give youany pre warning. I didn't want you
refreshing on anything. This is theinaugural episode of the new game show called

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Smack that Ass. Are we ready? Yes? We are? Oh yeah.
It's gonna be so disappointing for youguys when I get every single question
right. Believe me, I havea question here I know you don't know
the answer to. So if Iget to three questions and you've answered all
three, I'm going to go tofive, and that fifth one you are

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definitely not getting the answer to.Come for me. Question one is worth
three smacks? Which character in theseries Fleabag says hair is everything? It's
her sister. Shoot. I haven'twatched the series in a bit, so
I know the characters, but Ican't I like it. Oh yeah,

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no, that was entirely a bluff. Sister's name Audrey or something like that.
Am I right? You were callingwho's bluff? Just now you're calling
my bluff? Is what's happening?Well? This is all calling your bluff
because at the beginning you talked abouthow great this series was, and how
much you and your friends loved it? Yeah, but they have the scripts.
I don't have the scripts in myhouse. From what I see with

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the answer here, it says thatFlea Bag is the one that says hair
is everything. Oh bummer, Well, no sense getting her up for three
Now, let's see if they're goingto be cumulative. You got that numbers
three? Yes, that is yourjob, numbers guy, your numbers got.
It's almost as if this was meantto be. This is perfect,

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all right? Question number one wrong? Question number two? What business does
Flea Bag operate a guinea pig themedcafe? That was a very thorough answer.
I would have just accepted a cafe, all right. Does that mean
that I get smacks off? Thisgame doesn't take away fun for us,

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of course? All right? Questionnumber three? What animal frequently appears as
a metaphor for Flea Bag's guilt?Is it not a guinea pig? Is
your answer? Is it a guineapig? It's a guinea pig. I'm
locking it in guinea pig. Now, remember if you get this wrong,

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it's three more smacks. I don'tknow if I can handle six SMACs.
That's a big number for me.I should call on the friend that got
me on this podcast. She shouldhave to take a bit of this.
Unfortunately, nobody is going to bephoned right now. But you are correct.
It is a guinea pig. Stillat three smacks, Still at three
smacks. We're gonna get her upa couple. I'm giving her some that

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I think she'll probably get, butI know she is not getting that first
one that I saw, because thatis a ridiculous question. Hmm, okay,
in what type of venue does Fleabagmeet the priest for the first time?
It was a restaurant. Are youlocking that answer in? I'm locking

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it in. M It's very unfortunatefor you and very fortunate for us.
He met her at a lecture.No, he didn't. He meets her
in the first episode of season twowhen they're out a family restaurant with her
entire family. It says, righthere at a lecture. And I don't
know much about this show, butthis trivia list has to be official.

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It's on the internet. You sayit with at a restaurant. This says
it's at a lecture. I'm acceptingwhat this says. I'll take the snacks
but just so you know, Ifeel that I'm a martyr now, as
long as you don't die a martyr. That's the nice part about this.
And I don't think sick Smacks aregoing to kill you. I think I'll
live. Is that question number three? Yep? Question number four, you

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got the second one right? Areyou letterscar? Are you numbers guy?
Which one? Are you? Excuseme? He's numbers guy, but he's
only keeping track of how many smacksnumbers. Guys should only have to keep
track of so many numbers in oneepisode. Yeah, that was four though.
That was question four. Question four, you got two of them right,
yep, the guinea pig and thecafe. Let's move to question number
five. Your final question of thefirst episode of Smack That ass all right?

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What happens to Fleabag's cafe after Boozedeath. I think she just runs
it on her own, doesn't she? But what happens she gets a bank
plan to continue supporting it, andthen what happens I don't know you in
the answer to the question, isthe business struggles financially? Oh? I

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knew that. Kell didn't seem likethat Cia said it came out of your
mouth. She leaves because the businesswas struggling. She had to like fight
for it. She got it rightat the end of Season one probably would
have gone a lot easier on youif you had mentioned that part. So
that would be nine smacks to ass. But I'm going to give you a

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chance to either take them all awayor go for the daily double. Obviously
I'm going for the daily double.You do realize what happens with the daily
double. I do realize what happens. Eighteen smax, eighteen, there we
go. Thank you, numbers guy. So you either get eighteen smacks or
none at all. I think yousaid this game didn't take fun away from

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us. Numbers guy, let merun this podcast. Sometimes I say things
I don't mean, but I havea feeling she is not going to know
this. In which year did Fleabagfirst air? I think it was a
stage show first, so it couldbe a trick question on that, but
I have to guess twenty eighteen.Oh I'm sorry, it was twenty sixteen.

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Uh So I guess with no furtherado, you should probably get to
smacking that ass. Come you,missy, all right, how many do
you have? Eighteen? All right? What are you gonna do. That's
right, count them one. Thankyou, sir. Yeah, if you

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don't, we wanna start over.Uh oh one, thank you, sir
oh two, thank you, siroh three, thank you, sir oh
or thank you, Sir how five, Thank you, sir sixth Thank you,
Sir how O how Hm seven,Thank you, Sir how eight,

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Thank you, Sir m nine,Thank you, Sir Old. Thank you,
Sir I Hold eleven, thank you, Sir h twelve, thank you
Sir HM thirteen, Thank you sirfourteen, Thank you, sir fifteen,

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Thank you, Sir Hold sixteen,Thank you, sir oh what seventeen?
Thank you sir eighteen, Thank you, sir very good. I gotta say
that you two are great sports tocome and play that numbers got I thank
you very much for coming into theshow and helping us out. I think
people are really going to enjoy thatlittle segment. Yeah, they'll love his

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handiwork. Too bad they can't seehis handiwork not on the podcast. But
anyway, as we leave this firsttime attempt at this game show, can
we all just join in together onthe tagline of the show. Are we
ready? Yeah? You know whatwe're saying, right, smack dad ass.

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Are we ready? Yeah, people, I want to thank you for
playing this game, joining us hereon this game show three two one,
smack ass. We might have torecord it separately. I don't even care

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if it didn't come out good numbers, guy, hang around as long as
you want, sit there, evenjoin in if you want. But here
comes a question for Mookie. Youcould also answer this one too. Do
you have a favorite spanking scene froma mainstream television show or a movie?
Of course we all do. Ifeel like spangos are encyclopedic about this.

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Well, my favorite one is notactually a spanking scene, but a spanking
threat scene. It's in Weeds whenthe main character gets in trouble with this
mob boss and she's pulled in andshe's confronted by the mob boss and you
think that he's going to kill her. The stakes are really really high,
and instead he tells her that whatshe deserves is a good, hard spanking

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or something like that, and ohmy gosh, it came so out of
nowhere. My jaw hit the floor. I'm like, oh my god.
And the ensuing spanking scene in theback of the car is it's worth watching,
but it's just something about him sayingthe words and her reacting to it
is even better than the actual scenefor me. Can you try to mimic
the way he said the word?Because I know exactly what you're talking about.

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I don't remember the exact shoot.I only watched the scene once with
you. It's hard to Yeah,it's not when I've overwatched. I just
remembered the gravity of it in themoment. There were at least three spankings
on that series. Yeah, becauseshe got spanked in the bar. That
was like a playful spanking from herboyfriend. Later on, you didn't show

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me that one, and then youhad her son, her older son had
that one woman tied up, Ohyeah, on the spanking bench. Numbers
guy, do you have a favoritescene? Oh yeah, Outlander. I
think it's episode nine. That isa great scene. I actually saw that
not too long ago. There's thisguy that has a website now where he's

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just posting all spanking scenes from movies. It's called cross Blog, like c
hrssblog. I saw that scene again. It is a fantastic scene. Yeah,
it's really good. Numbers as aquirky habit when he's watching his show,
he goes back and pauses it onhis favorite scene. So if you
go to that episode of Outlander,it is for sure going to be set

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right to play into the spanking scene. Numbers. Got how old are you?
I'm thirty five. When I wasyounger, we paused VHS tapes.
You pause it and it's digitally paused. And I grew up on VIC just
tapes too that I remember how crappythose were to pause on. And do
you remember if you paused on thesame part over and over many times?

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Yeah, I got, I'll screwedup in that area exactly. So when
we had these family videos where therewere spankings, not family videos, but
videos of movies and stuff that werefor the family, if there was a
spanking in it, every time itwould go towards that spanking, the thing
would jump and they probably all wondered, why is it always right before this

(30:51):
spanking or during the spanking that thisis happening. Oh my god, that's
fantastic. I never find out whoit was. I have no idea if
my mother ever went in my roomand found any of my spanking paraphernalia.
She's never mentioned it. I mean, I'm fifty five, now, and
I've told them plenty of things Idid in the past when they had no
idea what I was doing, SoI would think my mother, I mean,

(31:15):
she obviously knows that I'm a littlebit of a freak, but I'm
not sure she knows exactly how much. It's so funny how people's parents must
catch little glimpses. I had acopy of the DVD Secretary as a teenager
that I could have kept it onmy bookshelf and no one would ever have
thought anything of it, But insteadI kept it in my underwear drawer,
and I remember my mom opening upmy drawer at one point and I was

(31:37):
just like, Ah, that's nothing. I don't know why that's It's just
nothing here like that. How didthat get in there? That's not mine?
Yeah, I'm like, oh,I just I don't even remember what
I said, but she definitely musthave known something was up numbers. God,
do you mind hanging out for this? You gilve me involved in all
these questions If you don't mind measking a question, how out are you
with your parents? If you saidyou told them you did some stuff?

(32:00):
Do they know that you're a spankover? My parents have absolutely no idea
about my sex life at all.I would never want to even mention my
sex life. I don't even wantmy parents picturing me naked. I don't
want to picture them naked in thesame way. I cannot believe Mouki is
as with her parents as she is, so I never say the S word.

(32:21):
My mom knows that I am domingand that I do impact play,
and that's about all I'm comfortable with. How about your friends about the same
Again, I don't say that I'ma spanking fetishist because I'm just afraid that
the word's going to come up inconversation. Someone says brand spanking you,
and all the eyes turn on meto wonder what my reaction is. Things

(32:42):
like that. But everybody knows thatI'm part of the kink scene, that
I'm doming, that I do impactplay. They've seen bruises on me when
I am swimming in their pools.We're fairly out. I fantasized a boat.
Yeah, they make thanking jokes tous, but we pretend that we
have no reaction to it, butthey got that poker face affected. Yeah,
my friends will make spanking jokes.The ones that don't even know I'm

(33:05):
into spanking, and I just sitthere and I shut up because if I
get started when alcohol is involved,I really have to concentrate. That's really
funny. So you guys could bothtake this question and take it in whatever
order you want. Ladies, first, fight it out, do whatever you
want. You're the one with theeighteen Was it eighteen? Smacks on the
ass? It's eighteen? Yeah?Okay, when you were younger, before

(33:30):
ever having or for you numbers guy, giving a real life spanking, what
picture did you have in your headof the perfect one? Ooh, that's
a great question. Well, thankyou very much. I pride myself on
my great questions. I had thisphoto that I found on the internet that

(33:52):
I wish that I had it today. I think I changed the file format
and like hit it in a hiddenfold or like way in the computers that
people wouldn't find it. But itwas actually an FF female spanking scene,
which is not my primary thing I'minto. But the camera was facing the
spanky and just the look on thewoman spanking her was a poudy sort of
look and like she was scolding butvery exaggerated, and like she was having

(34:15):
no sympathy or even sort of registeringwhat reaction the spanky was having. She
was just dealing out punishment. Andthen the spanky's face. It was shot
a little bit from above, andthe spanky's face was just looking up with
this overwhelmed look of like, ohmy God, like how much longer is
this going to keep going on?For it? And I looked at that
photo five million times. You couldsee her red butt in the background.

(34:37):
Something about both of their expressions wasso perfect for me. I guess if
I was to edit it in myhead, I've always preferred being spanked by
men, so I would switch itover to a man in my perfect version.
But that was the best real lifephoto I ever saw that kind of
captured the things I liked. Whatage were you when you saw this photo?
Probably fourteen or fifteen? Okay,what about you, numbers guy?

(35:01):
Growing up you had this picture inyour head of the perfect spanking? What
is it? I don't think I'mgoing to give is a detailed an answer,
as Mookie just did, because Ididn't even pay too much attention to
expressions back then. It was reallyjust more about how nice the butt was,
especially how red it was. AndI remember scouring the internet for this

(35:21):
a lot, but sharing a computerwith your family growing up, it was
really hard to find a safe placeto hide. So one of the things
I like is naked from the waistdown, because I not only have a
spanking fetish, I have a bitof a foot fetish as well and everything
like that. So a barefoot spankyalways does it for me. The rest
of it didn't really matter too much. But yeah, I do definitely pay
more attention to expressions nowadays. Butlooking back, what I used to picture

(35:44):
as the perfect spanking probably wouldn't doit for me now because I can tell
now that I couldn't tell back thenthat it was just a stage thing,
but that was what I used todo it for me. I guess,
just more aesthetics kind of than anything. So, both of you, what's
your earliest recollection of knowing that youhad an interest in spanking. I remember
playing house with a neighborhood girl.She lived about three doors down, and

(36:08):
my earliest spanking related memory is thatwe were playing house and I think that
she was the mom and I wasthe baby, or maybe I was the
mom and she was the baby,but there was definitely spanking play involved in
this. I lost touch with hershortly after, and I've always wondered if
she grew up to be a Spanco. Did that trigger it for both of
us or were we already spankos andwe were just happen to find each other

(36:30):
and play this out? What aboutyou, numbers guy. So I used
to have a childhood friend. Wewere both very young. I was probably
five or so. Remember we werehanging out at a park and she and
were just kind of playing or something, and she did something bad. I
don't remember what it was, andI remember hearing her mom's cald her and
tell her not to do it again, and then threatened to give her a

(36:50):
smack on the butt. And allI want to do from that point on
was get her in trouble. Let'ssee, you see if I can get
it. Did you continue to gether in trouble? I tried, it
didn't work, but I'm pretty sureI was a hard wireed spanco from even
before that. But the fact thatthat's all that was on my mind as
soon as that was threatened. Yeah, well, numbers guy, I'm going
to channel your friend from back inthe day and tell you what she's thinking

(37:13):
right now. You are a horribleperson. Yeah, probably all right for
both of you. Again, whatwas what you would consider your first official
spanking experience. So I had donea bunch of self spankings, and I
was married for a while to anon spanko who was accommodating and would spank

(37:37):
me as foreplay, but I don'treally count those. My spanco anniversary is
Saint Patrick's Day, twenty twenty one. I had been on fet life.
I'd been chatting with somebody, youknow. It was during the pandemic,
so we didn't want to rush out. I had concerns about safety protocols and
that sort of thing, But eventuallywe decided that we were going to quarantine

(37:57):
for two weeks. Afterwards, wewere going to meet and I met him
for coffee. We went to anAirbnb that was a literal log cabin,
and I let this guy spank mewith his hand and with a hair brush,
and it blew my mind. Itwas hard enough spanking that it actually
kind of shut the desire off forabout twenty four hours afterwards, when I

(38:19):
was bruised and healing and everything,and I got severe drop that I had
no idea was the thing that couldhappen at that time, but I just
remember thinking, Oh my God,like, here's this thing that plagues you.
You feel like it's a curse forso much of your life because it's
so obsessive and intense. And thenwhen I didn't feel anymore, I thought,
oh my god, is it gone? And I remember being sad about
that, but obviously it comes back. Give it forty eight hours and I

(38:43):
was recontextualizing that experience and it wassuddenly very hot. And I met up
with him like a month later todo the same thing. But absolutely mind
blowing was this log cabin in thewoods. It was on somebody's property that
bordered a forest, but no,not in the middle o nowhere. It
would have been a lot hotter ifit was, and scarier. Maybe I

(39:05):
felt like I was so sheltered.You're meeting this person from the internet.
I took basic safety protocols, butit was still a big leap for me.
I met a girl one time.I mean, we had known each
other before, but when I wentup to visit her one time, we
got an airbnb next to a CivilWar battleground. And I am one of
those people who believes that there couldpossibly be ghosts out there. Scared the

(39:29):
hell out of me to be withina baseball throw's distance from a Civil War
battleground, all by ourselves in likethis wooded area. She laughed at me
all night long. I could notsleep, And that's enough about me.
Numbers guy, tell us what youwould consider your first spanking experience. First
one would be when I was twentyand I had a girlfriend that we've been

(39:52):
been eledating for a little while,and she can kind of tell, just
by the general level of passion inthe relationship that there was something else there,
and she kind of huggered it outof me. She said, come
on, there's something you're not tellingme. And I was shaking when I
told her that this is what Iwas into. And then she's like,
oh, really, that's it,that's easy, and then just laid over
my lap and let me do it. It was great, And I don't

(40:14):
know if I would have been asout as I was with my later girlfriends
if that first time telling someone didn'tgo that well, probably would have gone
right back into the closet. Butthat was good. But my first really
cathartic spanking experience was actually when Ifirst spanked her spanking a true spanko is
so different from a vanilla so itwouldn't be my first spanking experience ever,
but first time ever really scratching theitch. I was high for the next

(40:37):
day and a half. Afterwards itwas Yeah, I was floating, like
two hours straight pretty much. Icouldn't believe just how long you could go.
Like every other spanking, I'd givenit up to that point, five
ten minutes, maybe that's it,and just barely scratches it a little bit
but never really gets it. Andthat one was just, oh my god,
I'd never been as satisfied in mylife. It was amazing. I
have a hard time saying which onewas really my first. I feel like

(40:59):
that one was the first true though. How long did you know that other
girl before you brought this up?A few months, I guess three or
four months. Do you seem likea very normal person. You're very easy
to talk to, so when youmeet someone, you could pretty much tell
when someone likes you. What Ifound is that working this into the conversation
early is pretty easy when they alreadyknow your normal. He thinks so,

(41:23):
and I would bring it up prettyearly in the relationship, not that I
felt comfortable while being in a spanko. I still felt like a weirdo like
everyone else, but everyone was prettyreceptive to it, which I'm thankful for
because I would have done the samething as you. I would have gone
back into the closet. I mean, I'm in the closet right now doing
this podcast, but I would havebeen in this closet, never coming out

(41:45):
with the spango thing again, alwaysfeeling like a weirdo. You sit there
during this commercial break and think aboutwhat you have done. Shame on you,
Shame am I going to get aspanking now, try to behave yourself
during the rest of the podcast.All right, MOOKI. When it comes

(42:06):
to spanking, what is your favoritething, the absolute favorite thing about receiving
one? That's a hard question.There are so many different elements. I
always say that I've got three kinkpillars. Can I cheat and answer the
question with three things instead of onething? I think people out there would
absolutely love to hear what you haveto say, so I always say that
my kink pillars are control or lossof control, punishment, and embarrassment.

(42:31):
Any scene that involves any combination ofthe control, either physical control, or
dominance and submission punishment where it feelsCompare this to accountability play, which is
all about did you meet your goalsand have you been doing things? Whereas
punishment, it doesn't really matter whatthe reason is you did something, and
it's just straight to it. Wedon't need the backstory and embarrassment being that

(42:54):
feeling of feeling small and having thisthing done to you. I always drew
energy from spanking as disconcordant with age, like it's a bit age inappropriate for
a woman my age to still begetting spanked, and that was the electrical
part of it. I have tosay that that was a fantastic answer,

(43:15):
probably better than I thought the answerwas going to because I was only asking
for one thing and you gave usseveral things, and that's awesome. I
have a feeling Numbers Guy might beready to outdo you right now. Numbers
Guy, take it away. Oh, you definitely have a wrong feeling there.
I have much simpiler answer. I'ma sadist. I like intensity,
and yeah, I think is thatI certainly play a role. And I

(43:37):
remember seeing Mookie's ass on Fat Lifeand going, oh my god, I
ever loved to spank her, andthen I couldn't believe it when I actually
finally got to. But intensity iscertainly a big thing for me, and
I remember when we were first talking, I told her I want to get
a reaction another person. Light spankingsdon't really do it for me. It's
better than nothing, but you know, there's going to be at least some
level of intensity, and I certainlylike to see discomfort from the spanky I

(44:00):
play with some that they can handleit hard, but only up to the
point where they can handle it easily, you know, where they're barely reacting,
and then once it gets a littlebit too much, where they're actually
starting into emote, then they callit quits. And I love that almost
right off the bat. I canget her at reacting and uh yeah,
intensity reactions, and yeah, overallaesthetics. I mean, I certainly enjoy

(44:20):
what I get to play with allthe time. I'm curious what you would
say for that answer. Well,first I have to say that I totally
agree with you numbers guy about seeingher pictures on fet life, and right
now I am a little bit jealousof you because I'm sitting in my closet
all by myself and you're sitting therewith her, so olanket. For as
far as me, if you havelistened to my podcasts, I'm not really

(44:42):
a disciplinarian. I'm not huge intocausing pain or anything. I mean,
I can do it, obviously,But the biggest thing I like about spanking
is I love to see that nicebutt. I love over the niek,
but I love to see that nicebutt. I like to play with that
butt. I like to smack thatbutt. I like to see it read.
And I will do whatever the girlwants me to do. But I

(45:06):
had a girlfriend back in the daywhere our agreement was if I watch football
or baseball, all I had todo was massage her butt. During the
game. I could massage that butt, smack it a little bit, especially
during the commercials or timeouts or replays. What's the best way to get through
commercials? Right there? Just massagethrough the show or the game or whatever

(45:27):
and stuff and then commercial time,Oh you're in for it. That's all
part of the rules. But ifyou just give me a butt to massage,
I will massage that butt. ButI do like a little spanking.
I love the sound, I lovethe feel, I love looking at it.
I'm probably going way too deep intothis. Oh no, I actually
I was going to ask you abit more. What else do you do
to their butts? I mean,especially when you have because I intend to

(45:49):
just attack hers all the time,whatever the hell I feel like it.
Are you saying, like, whatdo I do otherwise besides spanking massage girls,
I'll just run up and grab it, fight it, pinch it,
all kinds of stuff, how aboutyou? I think that that's pretty much
anybody who's either a butt man andprobably even a booveman. As far as
me, I've always been a buttman and I've always liked spanking. So

(46:09):
if I'm passing by him in thehallway or they're passing by me, they're
probably gonna get a smack. They'reprobably gonna get a grab, They're probably
gonna get a little kick in theass. They're gonna get something, and
they all know it. If they'reon the phone and they're bending over talking
on that phone, well that's justan imitation for me. I've got my
spanko spider sense. I've been forwardand my hand is always like where is

(46:30):
he ready? Yeah? I'm ready, I'm blocking now. I have friends
that do that too, and I'mlike, what are you blocking for?
You want that smack in the ass? Why are you blocking me? I
do, but he goes hard.If it was just like a little smack,
I can take it. He's gonnalike full hand it on me.
Numbers, guy, take it alittle easy on her. Sometimes maybe seven
out of the ten do it yourway and then the three other times do

(46:52):
it her way. Yeah, benice to me. But I guess I
could try it once a while oncewhile what do you guys prefer more?
Do you prefer more disciplinary or fundspankings? Definitely fun? Yeah, I'm
not a disciplinarian either, and I'ma perfect angel pretty much. I would
say this is where the bratting comesinto it. Like, if I want

(47:13):
to initiate something and get the levelof intensity, that's a punishment spanking,
Oh brat, But it usually doeskeep things fairly playful. We do have
kind of a domestic discipline relationship,and there are punishment spankings that have real
gravity when they rarely come up.But day to day, I'd say it's
mostly fun. It's almost always fun, yes, yeah, and those ones

(47:34):
are still hard. It doesn't evenhave to be a punishment. Spanking to
be hard. In fact, someof the fund spankings even are maybe even
harder, but brat you as muchbecause you're so neat To me, it
makes the neatest things to use onme. What was the last thing she
got punished for? Smoking? Actuallypunished? Yeah? That one cigarette?
One cigarette? Why you want togo one minute with the Governess strap You

(47:58):
know that one cigarette could have beenthe one that killed you. See he
gets it. He understands the gravityof the situation. I was with my
other play partner. I'm like aspanker, gave me this cigarette, like
I should be absolved. Numbers guy, I applaud you for taking care of
her health. Thank you. SeeI can understand. So does your mother?
Yeah, my mother would approve.Does your mother know that he spanked

(48:21):
you for smoking? She did.I let it be known that spanking is
part of the roster of things thatI do in my kink life, so
she definitely knows it happens. Butno, not specifically that we have a
discipline relationship where I get over theknee bear mo fet is. She kind
She does know I don't like smoking, and I heavily discourage it with you

(48:42):
yeah, you guys bond over that, mookie. Are you also more into
the fun spanking than the disciplinary.I kind of don't care what it's for
because punishment is one of the elements. I like it not to be entirely
silly all the time, so it'snice when it has it's been a gravity,
although again I feel like at thispoint I get it so often that
it doesn't really need that. Thatused to be more important. But one

(49:06):
of my other play partners we justdo a thing where he just kind of
decides, he's like, okay,stand up, youre getting spanked, and
we just go into it as ifI've done something and he's punishing me for
it, and that still has enoughgravity to it that it scratches that particular
rich But a lot of the timeswe just do silly things or you're just
you know, I'm like what didI do? And you're like nothing.
I feel like it. That's especiallywhen it happens now the first six months

(49:29):
at least, she brat it formost of it, and that field,
yeah, for a very long time. Nowadays, I just have to flat
out of me, yeah, youdid nothing wrong. I just mean numbers,
guy, I do have to saythat. I have read her fet
life profile extensively, and I knowthat bratting is her love language. It
is my love language. Shanking ismy love language. Love you too,

(49:52):
big Wookie. Do you love ascolding or a lecture? I do.
It's one of those things that haschanged a bit for me as I started
topping. I feel like I doit a lot now and I enjoy the
elements of it. So in aplay setting, I feel like I critique
a little bit, like I can'tturn off the part of me that's like,
oh that was really good, orlike I'm going to steal that,

(50:13):
or things like that. In agravity situation like when you're punishing me,
I'm not thinking that it is moreinvolved and emotional there. But yet I
like it as an exercise and definitelywhen I'm fantasizing, it's a big part
of it. Numbers guy, whatdo you think about lecturing? Do you
like it? Dislike it? Hatedoing it? I know I'm not very
good at it. Don't give yourselfenough credit. I've heard some of the

(50:35):
oblecturing that you've given as miss Darling, and you are amazing at it,
so I know I can use somework in that category. It is fun
to do sometimes, but I havea hard time faking it. It almost
has to be real. A fewtimes that I have truly scolded you,
it's been for something that she's donethat has honestly upset me, and I'm
always wary of doing it because ihave to make sure I'm actually in the
right in this situation, because thelast thing I'd ever want to do is

(50:57):
actually give her a true punishment spankingfor something where I'm just being unreasonable.
I remember the first time I everdid it. I didn't yell at her
or anything like that. I justtalked to her in a stern voice and
told her what she did was unreasonable, how much it upset me, and
what was going to happen. I'veheard your scoldings, and I think I
try to emulate some of that.I cannot mimic your talent horrors, so
I don't know. Maybe I'll findmy own way, but I know I'm

(51:20):
not that good at it yet.I'd say you're a very joyful spanker,
not to say that it's always funand light in that sort of thing,
but if it's not for a gravityreason, like very often, you're just
like this is my favorite thing,and I'm not going to pretend that it's
not my favorite thing. She lovesseeing the smile on my face when I'm
spanking somebody else. I just can'thide it. So, Mookie, when
it comes to lecturing or scolding,do you like more of the calm but

(51:45):
firm lecture or do you actually liketo be scolded if it's like a role
player that sort of thing. Ilike people to stay within the range they're
comfortable with. I feel like it'seasier to deliver something that's kind of methodical
rather than fake in emotion. Ithink those are always special moments when you
can get an emotional reaction out ofsomebody and there's like a primal element.
Yeah, the few times that youhave genuinely schoolded me, you've been upset

(52:08):
or like angry at me. Wehave a sort of relationship spank or rule
that there's punishment spankings, which shouldalways be done a little bit after the
fact, when you're calm and youmake a rational decision about it. But
then there's also like heat of themoments I'm mad spankings, which we just
agree always hand only go as hardas you want. I can take it

(52:28):
with a hand. But a lotof those have been more aggressive and angry
in the moment, and it doesn'treally matter who's right or wrong. It's
just about getting the aggression out andletting us come back to a calm place.
But some of those are crazy hot. Those are some of my favorite
spankings we do. Just hearing awoman say crazy hot is kind of crazy
hot. Agreed, We're going toget into your dominant side soon, But

(52:52):
I'm going to ask you a littlequestion that has something to do with what
we were just talking about. Whenyou're giving a scolding or a lecture,
what is your method? Do youdo the more calm or are you a
yeller? I think that I leanmore towards maternal so I'm channeling the energy
of a school teacher or a parent, And part of the power in those

(53:12):
situations is just that I'm not goingto stoop to your level like you can
throw a tantrum. You can beupset about this, but this is what's
happening, and it's for your owngood, and it's more chastising. It's
a little bit of guilting and embarrassmentand trying to hit on those emotional elements,
and I like to bring aggression intoit a little bit when it's like
someone's putting up more of a fussabout it, or you know, I've

(53:35):
warned you two times, like can'tstay away from your bet when you're in
the corner, and you can tapinto it a bit more, or if
someone's challenging me a bit, thenI don't mind letting that out. But
again it's still kind of the well, now I'm fed up with you,
and you know, you don't everlose control. It never loses that feeling
of calmness, and not calmness,but apparent even when they're at their wits

(53:57):
end, would never want to dodamage to their chin. So there is
a level of control there, butit's still I'm at my wits end and
I'm getting a little bit fed upwith you, And now this is what's
happening. You're lucky you weren't achild in the eighties. But there is
a picture of you sitting on adesk looking very stern. Of course your
face is in the picture, butyou can see that you're looking very stern.

(54:21):
That is a great picture that shouldbe on a magazine. Thank you.
That is actually on my Vanilla Boss'sdesk when they're not around. Oh,
that is awesome. During a disciplinaryspanking, we'll start out with Muki,
what are some of the things youlove to hear? The fun part
of when it's real is to tapinto those emotional elements. I find that

(54:45):
I'm not somebody who cries from spanking, but if I feel guilty about something.
Some of the most powerful spankings I'veever gotten on an emotional level have
been for things that I felt thatI truly hurt someone's feelings. If it's
for something like again for smoking,that's something I to me, I don't
really feel that bad about it.But if I said something, if my
mouth ran away, or I hurtsomeone's feelings, and then they're punishing for

(55:07):
me and they're pressing those emotional buttons, I feel like I can take more
from the spanking just because I feellike I deserve it on some level and
that it's reconciliatory, like it's makingsomething right. And I have cried,
maybe not during the spanking, butimmediately as soon as it stops, it
kind of all comes out. Iknow that you numbers guy aren't a huge

(55:28):
disciplinary guy, but you watch videosand everything. Yep. Do you like
the disciplinary spanking videos? Generally,I don't even listen to the scolding beforehand.
I may sometimes, I'm not sayingI skip to it, but I
mentally checked out until the spanking actuallystarts happening. Most of the time.
I guess it depends on how goodthe scolding is and everything. But what

(55:49):
I'm looking for is more intensity.So the disciplinary spankings tend to be more
intense than just for fun spankings,especially if you're looking for the month spanking
tube and everything. And what Ilike is more so hearing the girl's screams,
the prize out and pain and everything, and then more towards the end,
the apologizing and then when she's kindof under knees and you're hugging them,
or the reconciliation. Yeah, likewhen we're reconnecting and when the slate

(56:12):
is clean and you feel like you'vemade things right. I do actually like
that part of it. They've takentheir spanking, that's absolved them with everything,
you're not going to bring it upagain. It seems to have closure
and it feels like the spanking actuallydid something, which is kind of cool.
I mean a lot of spankings thatdo are just for fun. So
a spanking for a practical purpose andthat actually has a real effect on the
person. It's a neat concept Ilike. And one of the things we've

(56:32):
talked about with disciplinary versus fund spankingsis that the sort of narrative in the
spanko disciplinary spanking is that the spankyis actually the bad guy. They're the
one who's done the transgression, andthe spanker, even though they're the ones
causing pain, they're the good guysthat have to step in. This is
for your own good In a disciplinarysetting, it's really even more that role,

(56:55):
whereas in a fund setting, veryoften when you spent me for fun
is because you want to. AndI get a rise out of that because
I was looking for someone to wantto spank me forever. But there is
something powerful about this is for yourown good. And I'm doing this hard
thing, but I'm not doing itjust for me, and this time it's
for you at least as much asfor me. Yeah, I agree with

(57:16):
you. In these spanking scenes,the spanker is the good guy because he's
teaching the spanky a lesson. Ihave this friend that lives close by and
she comes over frequently, and ofcourse at least to many spankings. This
girl will constantly go look at herbutt in the mirror and she'll come and
she'll show me and she'll be like, you did this you, and I'm

(57:39):
like, because you ask for it. She always points out that I did
this to her butt, and meanwhileinside she's like, I love this.
You know. But they always tryto make the spanker out to be the
bad person when all we're doing isthe lord's work, the good lord's work.

(57:59):
I always want to what degree itis like shame about the fetish on
a certain level. You know,we all want this, whether we want
to receive it or give it.But it's kind of nice to be able
to pass the book one way oranother, Like you just did this because
you're mean, and I didn't doanything that bad versus this for your own
good. I had to spank you. What could I do? I didn't
know how weird I was in thespanking community until I met her and she

(58:21):
told me. She said, waita minute, you don't need a reason
or anything. No, you'll bethe bad guy. Yeah. From before
I started posting videos in late twentyten, that's all I did. I
just spanked to spank. Sometimes itwas because they were being a little bit
of pain in the asshole. Imight have spanked them a little harder,

(58:43):
But I never really said anything tothem, but I would make them say
stupid things. I'll say, youknow, you have to say this for
me to stop, and they'll haveto say something totally stupid. But I
was never really a lecturer back then, and the only time I started saying,
I love that, but continue on. So the only time I really

(59:04):
started lecturing was when I made thosefirst videos, and that was a vanilla
girl actually asked me to lecture her, and that's when we made the videos.
So it started out with me justgiving her a little spanking because she
said something to me one night whenwe were just hanging out, and I
just put her over my knee andgave her like ten smacks after I warned
her that if she says it again, I'm gonna give her a spanking.

(59:28):
And then over a course of likethree weeks, it went from this vanilla
girl getting a playful ten smack spankingto can you please try scolding me during
it? Then we made that firstvideo, and from making that first video
and posting three from that same girl. Now every single person that contacts me

(59:49):
wants me to scold them. Sonow I'm stuck in this little box.
It's like those people who are actorsand they get type casts. Yeah,
so now I'm type No one callsme for a fun spanking anymore. So
feel bad for me. Yeah,hard life, hard life. I remember
reading that on your profile too,and I'm just calling this poor guy,
Oh, he can only find girlswho want to be punished. Oh well,

(01:00:14):
thank you numbers guy for having thatcompassion for me. I have to
ask you a question. You watchmy videos sometimes, right? I used
to watch them a lot. Yeah, I'm a little busier nowadays, but
it was a constant thing back inthe day. And I recently in this
podcast heard you say that you donot like sometimes when people go on and

(01:00:35):
on you just want to see thespanking. Have there been times in my
videos where you said, God,I wish this guy would shut the hell
up. Nope, be honest withme. I'm not taking off this podcast.
So here's the thing. Yours don'ttake too long to get into it.
I don't think I've ever had toskip over anything and then what I
like, at least about your earliervideos. I haven't seen every single one

(01:00:57):
of your videos, but at leastthe earlier ones I used to watch a
lot of the time, you getinto it fairly quickly, and then you
spank, and then you take abreak while you're rubbing their butt is when
you scold, and then you spankagain, and then the angles you pick
and everything like that. I haven'tactually had to skip through really any of
your stuff. Okay, so I'mgoing to give you one more opportunity to
tell the truth, and I willnot be mad at all. Have you
ever said please just shut up andstart spanking. No, And I saw

(01:01:23):
that video where you said a lotof you guys have complained that I talk
too much of my videos. Sofrom now on, I'll keep spanking and
I'm not going to talk. AndI remember thinking, like, no,
that one actually felt hollow. Itdidn't feel like you. So no,
Actually I enjoy the stuff that youdo, and I when I'm trying to
actually learn how to scold, Igo and rewatch all of your videos,

(01:01:43):
and instead of paying more attention tothe bottom and the spanking and everything like
that, I actually try to reallylisten to what you're saying and try to
pick up on your methodology. Istill can't do it though, purely educational.
That's the only reason he's watching thosevideos, Yeah, just for research.
Every once in a while, willsay something and I'll be like,
Wow, that's a good line.I'm going to use that with one of

(01:02:04):
my spankings. That's so funny.I feel like the benefit of being a
switch is that I've played with alot of really great tops, and I
feel like I'm learning on the go, Like I steal this element to this
person was great, I'm just takethat. I'm I take that. I'm
going to take that, and youkind of build it into your own thing.
And I often wonder how true puretops who haven't had that opportunity find
their style. I guess videos alot of the time, maybe when it

(01:02:28):
comes to this disciplinary scolding or lecturing. Do you like to answer questions from
the spanker. I love it.I feel like it's very embarrassing spankle buzzwords
and we all kind of know,like the bare bottom, the over your
knee, like all these things areelectrifying, and I feel like part of
the power exchange is that the topowns the words. They can say the

(01:02:50):
words and they don't have to feelembarrassed about it because they're in control.
It's not happening to them. Butwhen you're the person getting spanked and it
feels agent appropriate and embarrassing, thosewords can be really hard to say,
even for somebody who gets it asoften as I do. But No numbers
knows, especially towards the end ofthe banking, when I want it to
stop, pain can override the embarrassmenttion. He's going to make me say the

(01:03:13):
buzzwords in an answer. It's horribleand so amazing. I love it,
but I hate it, and Ido this with other people when I'm topping.
I definitely love to make them saythe buzzwords. Also, I think
that that is the most fantastic thing, Like all a girl has to say
is spanking and drives me crazy.So I will make them tell me,

(01:03:35):
like, you know what's going tohappen to you if you do this again,
And they'll be like, I'm goingto get punished. How are you
going to be punished? Because they'retrying to avoid saying the word. That's
classic. That's the absolute best.I love it. Is there any specific
question that drives you crazy in agood way. Do you want to answer
this? I feel like you makeme say them all. No, I

(01:03:58):
think I will tell you what tosay it. When I control the words,
then I can say it. Theanticipation, anything you can do ahead
of the spanking, like before theactual first smack. There's so much anticipation
and tension built up, And ifthey're not ready to answer, sometimes I'll
pull them over and spank them forthat and be like, are you ready
to answer my questions because I'm tiredof this nonsense from you. And then

(01:04:18):
towards the end, I like sometimesmaking people ask for it to stop,
Like make people say the in depth, horrible, embarrassing words that no one
wants to say, that are soundignified that you will only say when you're
under pain and you really desperately wantit to stop now. Numbers guy,
you could probably answer this because youwatch videos, and Mookie you could answer

(01:04:42):
this because you actually get spanked whenyou're watching a video or you're getting spanked.
Is there something that you hear thatcould totally ruin the scene. We
were just saying, how the spankyis the bad guy in the spanker is
the guy and everything, but tryingto act like you don't actually want to
be doing this. Who are youkidding here? That's why you chose this

(01:05:03):
specific mode of punishment. I mean, there's plenty of different ways. If
you really didn't want to be spankingthe girl, you could be doing anything
else. You know, I understandit might be part of the allure of
this is purely for your own good. I don't want to be doing this,
but I have to and everything.I don't know, it just takes
me out of it. Yeah,you do. You definitely want to be
doing this, that's why you madethis video. Yeah you're not a fan
of the reluctance banker. Yeah,And I honestly that took me out of

(01:05:26):
one class too when somebody said thatand they we went, we went to
a boarding school, roleplay, that'swhat he is. And he says,
Oh, we don't want to bespanking you. I do? You are
so foolish? Yes you do,Yes, we do. That's all we
want. That's my thing. That'lltake me out of a video? No?
Thanks? And for me, wereyou asking what in a video or
what in a scene pulls me outof it? Well? For you,

(01:05:48):
it could be anything because numbers guysnot the one being spanked, but you
actually get spanked, so obviously hehas never said anything that would ruin a
spanking scene. Obviously, But youpossibly were getting spanked by someone in the
past, way before you met thisfantastic, phenomenal man. But you may

(01:06:11):
have been getting spanked by someone andthey said something that took you completely out
of the scene, or maybe youjust saw a video where you're like,
that just doesn't do it for me. I've been pretty blessed in terms of
good spankers, so in terms ofsaying things, nothing jumps to mind.
Technique sometimes will pull me out,which is funny because sensation is not one
of the elements that I listed asan important spankokink element. One of the

(01:06:35):
worst spankings I ever had, andwe talked about it afterwards. The dynamic
got a lot better, but Ididn't communicate that my thighs are really sensitive,
but I'm a high intensity player,so my butt can take it.
But he was giving me a spankingthat he didn't vary the intensity from my
butt to my thighs, so itwas like mosquito bite Mosquito mosquito bite.

(01:06:56):
Oh my god, worst pain ofmy life. Worse pain of my life.
Mosquito bite, mosquito bite. Miss. I'm like, this is simultaneously
the most boring and agonizing. Howcan that be? Again? If I
can take the pain, I don'tlike to red or yellow out, if
I can suffer through it. Butat the end, I'm just like,
I'm mad. I came up onthe spanking. I'm like, I'm mad,
and it's not your folks. Wedidn't talk about it, but I
don't like that. So that wasdefinitely one example where it wasn't something he

(01:07:20):
said, but the sensation of itpulled me out. So with you being
the one that gets spanked, andobviously you've been spanked by other people for
disciplinary reasons, do you think thata spanking has to hurt to teach you
a lesson? I might be playfullymaking some enemies here. I don't think
that spanking ever really does teach youa lesson. Maybe that's the brat in

(01:07:43):
me talking. If you express yougenuinely don't want me to do something,
I won't do it because I likeyou and I care about you, or
I'll keep doing it and I don'tcare how hard you hit me, I'll
just whatever. But I don't feellike it teaches me anything. That being
said, I do find that aspanking needs to be a certain intensity for
me to be fulfilling. I givea genuine pain reaction even when I'm at

(01:08:04):
a five or six on the painskilled maybe a four. But if I'm
getting thanks light enough that I'm notgiving a genuine pain reaction, I'm sometimes
feeling a bit awkward because do Ifake it? What do I do?
Like? I just feel like I'min my head at that point. I
totally agree with you with the teachinga lesson part. Here's the way I
describe it to people. I'm like, you guys are adults. People out

(01:08:28):
there are very against the spanking ofkids. But I tell them it this
way. When you're younger and you'repunished, they're teaching you a lesson.
Now you know the difference between rightand wrong. So when you're getting a
spanking, they're just punishing an infraction. When you're older, yes, maybe
they could deter you from doing somethingbecause of a spanking, but you're not

(01:08:50):
actually teaching an adult a lesson becausethey already know that what they're doing is
wrong. Yeah, no, absolutely, it's not to say that it can't
have a useful function. We've oftenhad conversations about how spanking has been useful
in our relationship for things like aheated argument. I think many women in
relationships tend to be a little bitquicker verbally. I can be a little

(01:09:13):
bit antagonistic in a verbal argument,and it doesn't mean that I win the
argument. I'm just arguing better inthis moment, and he's getting angry.
So if at that moment, ifI get an angry spanking because we're both
worked up, it kind of servesto like set us back on a balanced
field. We're both calm, andthen we can talk about the issue properly
in a way that's constructive, orfor little everyday things like again, I've

(01:09:35):
always been attracted to slightly ocd guysthat like things a certain way, and
I'm just never gonna bother. Ican't care about getting it the way that
you want it, which is annoyingfor everybody involved in this living arrangement.
But if you introduce I'm going tospank you if you don't do this thing.
Like I've told you many times,this goes here. It makes the
mundane sexy and fun. It definitelycan have a fulfilling and useful purpose.

(01:09:59):
I just don't I think that correctingpersonality traits or behaviors is necessarily part of
that. I agree with you.What do you feel about that numbers?
Guy? Do you feel you've evertaught her a lesson? It certainly would
look like that with one of thevideos we put on spanking to But I
think the only reason even looks likethat is because she already knew that she
had struggled with this, that thisis something that she could work on.

(01:10:21):
So it was almost like a ritualisticthing, like this is going to happen
because he deserved this and everything.But really, she'd already been wanting to
work on this in her head.Like you said, she already knows right
from wrong. She already knew whatshe'd already been doing wrong and everything.
If anything, this was just kindof like the last straw that actually got
her punishment. But yeah, thepunishment itself isn't what taught her a lesson.

(01:10:41):
If anything, had just added gravityto the situation. And if anything,
the spanking definitely got her listening.It added some emergency to change some
habits now rather than keep letting thisgo on. But I don't think it
actually did teach a lesson, AndI think an important element in that was
that was where I had said somethingthat my mouth got carried away and I
got a little bit mean. AndI think it's really useful in those situations
again to feel like we've addressed theissue again. It balances the playing field.

(01:11:06):
At the end of it, wefeel like the issue was addressed and
that we can move forward from it. It certainly helped add some closure to
that issue, and I don't thinkwe've had a problem with that same issue
since. And I don't know ifit's a spanking that did that or if
it was the talk, but thewhole experience certainly helped. It made me
feel better, and I think itmade you feel better afterwards too, So

(01:11:27):
I think it adds to the resolution, but it certainly itself doesn't teach the
lesson, especially if you didn't talkway you did it. I understand the
point of scolding, even though I'mnot good at it. I understand why
that needs to be added to apunishment spanking, because that's what differentiates it
from a fun one. And ifshe did something wrong and then I just
spanked her and I didn't say anythingthat would just feel like abuse. But
yeah, the spanking itself. Unfortunately, no, I don't think that actually
is what teaches the lesson. Well, Numbers Guy, thank you very much

(01:11:51):
for making her a better person.I'm sure when you get up in front
of the pearly gates, Peter isjust going to open that gate wide for
you, Mookie. Numbers Guy.You may have something to say about it,
and I'm not sure, but thisis definitely directed to MOOKI add in
whatever you have, Mookie, youhave a past acquaintance in a spaking community

(01:12:14):
that you lovingly refer to as fuckWad. I do tend to tell the
story of Fuckwod and how he receivedhis endearing nickname. Oh, that's an
unfortunate story. So he was myfirst partner log Cabin Guy. He was
a very fun play partner. Hewas scolding heavy, that was his sort

(01:12:35):
of thing. He was safe toplay with, and I met up with
him just to be spanked. Overthe course of about six months, maybe
once a month, we filmed allof our spankings. I think we filmed
every single one, which I highlyrecommend if you don't film your spankings.
It's fantastic just to get to watchyour pain reaction, to hear the things
that the spanker says that you don'tcatch when you're in pain, to watch

(01:12:58):
their face. Regrets about that,but he was my first play partner,
so I didn't really understand what wassort of normal going into this. And
I've learned since then that most people, when they have an ongoing play partner,
you're on at least friendly basis iswhere you'll chat a bit. It's
not just like a booty call whereit's very transactional. And this relationship with

(01:13:19):
Fuckquad was pretty transactional where we'd meetup, it's make me, he'd ghost
me. I wouldn't hear from himuntil like a month later. So I
would treat him very much like,oh, do I feel like having this
experience with a person? Yes,I do. He's fun to play with,
so I'd go. But what endedup happening is that he shared one

(01:13:39):
of our videos. So I've askedSarah ahead of time, Sarah, who's
been on the podcast, if she'sokay with me bringing her into this and
talking about this for one second.Absolutely, Sarah is phenomenal continue, Oh
my god, Sarah. So sheenters into this story more in a nice
way, but so fuckwod wanted toplay with Sarah because she's very well known

(01:14:00):
and she had just kind of reentered the scene again, and he didn't
have videos that he could share withher, and he'd seen a lot of
her videos. So he ended upsending videos of me and him together,
which he was very very specific withme that these videos were not to be
shown to anybody else. They werejust for us. They were unedited videos
that had my real first name,it had my face in them. In

(01:14:23):
one of them, I was completelynaked. It was completely inexcusable, and
she didn't know at the time thathe didn't have permission to share this with
me or who I was. Butafter they had played together, Sarah reached
out to me and she and Istarted chatting and became really quick friends.
She was supposed to come back upto Ontario to play with Fuquad again and

(01:14:44):
he kind of ghosted on her,and I said, why don't you come
anyway, Like, maybe he'll comeand play with us, or maybe we'll
just hang out together. And Iwaited at a transit station in Ontario,
as this woman that I had nevertalked to on the phone before even pulled
up in her big van and Igot in it, and we went to
an airbnb that I had rented inmy name and we just hung out the

(01:15:05):
entire time, and she was themost amazing person and one of my what
I would consider one of my bestfriends at this time. Even though she
lives quite far away, we're veryclose. So no matter what happened with
Fuckwad, the ultimate silver lining isthat he brought me to Sarah. But
through those conversations. Shortly after that, I found it that he had centered
those videos. He did not havemy permission to send them, and my

(01:15:29):
initial panic over it was who elsehas he sent these to? I confront
him about it, and he hadsaid immediately that he'd only sent them to
her, but I had no wayof knowing that, and it was absolutely
terrifying at the time. No onehas ever confirmed that he ever sent them
another copy, so it does seemto be an isolated thing, but it
was just really hurtful, and especiallysome of the videos he filmed and sent

(01:15:49):
to her before he sent them tome, Like I'm chasing this guy who
ghost me when he doesn't want totalk to me, and he was too
concerned about sending it to this newpotential play partner than's having respect to send
it to me, the person inthe actual video. So it was just
insult on top of injury, andit was very hurtful. Is it a
hyphenated first name? Is it fuckWad or is it fuck Wad Smith?

(01:16:11):
Does he have a last name?I think fuck? What about sums it
up? I don't know if hedeserves a whole lot more than that,
but that does suck because everything wedo here you have to trust the people
that you're doing this with. AndI have heard from one girl that came
here. She said that she waswith this guy before me that had seen

(01:16:31):
a picture of me. And Idon't know if they showed him a picture
or they sent him a picture,because that's two different things there. You
show someone a picture of me,that guy is not going to take a
mental picture and like you know,be able to go to a police department
and have the sketch artists draw it. But you send him a picture.
And now, who's this person sendhim a picture to? Yeah, so

(01:16:56):
you definitely have to be careful.You know who you're with, and that
guy AVI knows that that was adick move. They have to know that
was a dick move. It sucksthat that happened to you. And hopefully
it was only Sarah that got thesethings because she's not going to show them
to anyone. A bad thing happenedin the best possible way. To me,
I got very lucky. I stillalways wonder what happened. He kind

(01:17:16):
of dropped out of the scene afterthat, and he was not a bad
person. He just did some verygarbage things. But I still do wonder
what he's doing where he's at.Because people stay spancos, you know they're
not gone. But that kind ofbehavior is also completely unacceptable. I'm going
to end this episode right there,but there will be a part two coming
up. Until then, have agood one everyone,