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This is Nicole Whitney News for theSoul, life changing talk radio from the
uplifting to the unexplained. You're nowtuned in to Nicole Whitney's News for the
Soul highlights, life changing spotlights shehas shared with leading teachers in the human
consciousness field since nineteen ninety seven.Go now to newsforthsoul dot com to hear

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the full shows totally free. That'snewsforthsoul dot com. Heay, we are
live apl eleventh, twenty seventeen.It is ten am Pacific, eleven Mountain
time, I do believe, andthat's the time we had peg delay for
a very special hour on News forthe Soul, especially in times that we
are in right now. We've talkedto him many times over the years,

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and this, I believe is goingto be one of the most important chats
because of what's going on in ourworld today. Great Great New York Times
bestselling author is internationally known as thepioneer and bridging science and spirit, which
is one of the favorite places we'dlike to hang out. Following it successful
career as a computer geologist in thenineteen seventies, he worked as a senior
in the aism with the US AirForce Face Command during the Cold War years

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in the eighties. In the ninetieshe became started. I think that's when
he started exploring the spirituality side aswell, and the two come together in
a very most interesting way for findout in villages, remote monasteries and forgotten
texts and started connecting the dots,and it's where it gets really exciting.
Today we're going to talk about hislatest book as well, Resilience of the

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Heart. I understand it's the revisededition of The Turning Point, so we're
going to find out all about thatand find out well. I'm most excited
about checking in and tuning in witha great exciting perspective, conscious perspective on
what the heck is going on inour worlds of extremes right now. Great
breaking Welcome back to news for thefilm. Hey Nicole, it's so good

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to hear your voice. I'm absolutelythrilled to be with you today. I'm
thrilled to be with our audience.Thank you for inviting me back. We
have We've done this a number oftimes. And when I saw the list
came into my office of my mediainterviews that I was going to have this
week. I saw your name,a big smile on my face because we
always have a really great program andI appreciate you very much. Thank you.
Oh right back. Actually, weare very much appreciating the piece that

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you bring to the big picture.And holy moly, I don't even know
where to start today. I can'tthat's been a few years since you talked,
you know, I can I start? Can I get us started today?
I'm going to just share with ourlisteners. I had a really interesting
interview recently another radio station. Andthe first thing the interviewer said to me,

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he didn't say, welcome to theshow, How are you anything like
that? He said, Greg,why can't you stick with one topic like
everybody else? He said, youare all over the map? He said,
are you talking about science? Spirituality? About DNA, about ancient history,
about earth magnetics, about climate change? He goes, what are you
talking about? And I said,you know, every one of those things

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that you've just mentioned is a facetof the human experience. And in a
very real sense, I said,I am talking about one one thing,
one topic. It just happens tobe a really big topic, and it's
about us and our relationship to ourselvesinto the world, into the past and
one another into the future. Andthen he said, well, let's take
a station break, and then wecame back and did the rest of the

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interviews. So my work, itdoes touch on many facets of our experience
because we don't live in a vacuum. That's the world that we live in.
And that's one of the reasons Ilove working with Nicole, because you
are doing such a beautiful job oftaking a message that for some people is
a new way and a very differentway of thinking, and sharing this in
a responsible way across the airwaves.And I appreciate that, just appreciate it

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tremendously. Well, you know,like I said, we'd really value your
work and your piece, and I'mextremely interested to get your overall perspective.
That's where I'd like to start,is, you know, if the world's
very different than we it was.When we last talked, we were kind
of on this exciting as sins ofconnection and you know, you were showing
videos of tumors disappearing in sixty seconds. We're all very happy and excited and

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boo, and we thought we'd bein a different place by now. It's
got this overall view of things kindof going off the rails in the mainstream,
and I thought we were further ahead, evolved consciously and you know,
perspective on where we are in theworld, within the spirit and consciousness connections.

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How would you sum it up inthat view? Yes, you know
it's I was just reading a historysummary of the last two hundred years of
our experience and what many historians noware suggesting they embraced that. The twentieth
century they're saying, was a centuryof what they're they're calling a century of

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discovery. Okay, so you knowthe big discoveries of physics, classical physics,
quantum physics, sub atomic particles,DNA, the Dead Sea scrolls,
the NOD Commodity Line Library, theoldest records of the New Testament, the
Nogamadi, and you know space exploration. It was a century of exploration and
it revealed many things to us.And the twenty first century, they say,

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where we are right now is weare on a very steep learning curve
of discovering. What where those discoveriesfit in our lives? How do we
apply what we now know to betrue in our everyday lives? And I
think the world is reflecting that rightnow, Nicole. I trust personally,
I trust in the process. Theworld is a different place than I expected

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that we would be in. Onthe one hand, and on the other
hand, the indigenous people that I'vetalked to and worked with many of the
ancient texts, they say, withinthe first twenty five years of this new
century, they said, we won'teven recognize our lives in our world anymore.
And I think, you know,we're seeing that happen. So we're
we're learning about ourselves and our relationshipto the world based upon new discoveries.

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And this is what I'm writing aboutthe new book. Well, the newest
book that is on the market rightnow that you have access to is called
Resilience from the Heart. There's actuallyanother book that will be released October of
this year called the title is Humanby Design. And both of these books
are based upon peer reviewed science.So it's rock solid science. Not necessarily

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my opinion or my perspective or myhypotheses or my theories. But this is
the new science, Nicole, thatis changing the way we think about ourselves
and our relationship to the world.On the one hand, and on the
other hand, there is I'm justgoing to say, there is not only
a reluctance, but there is aresistance to sharing a lot of this new

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information in the mainstream because it overturnsone hundred and fifty years of scientific thinking
in the story that we tell ourselves. We are steeped in this scientific story
that's based upon separation, scarcity,competition, and conflict, and the new
discoveries are telling us that we livein a world of cooperation is based upon

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cooperation, not competition, and thatwe are deeply connected to ourselves and one
another, and the science is showingus just how deep these connections go.
So that is the theme for bothof the new books, and the one
that you just mentioned, Resilience fromthe Heart, is just that it is
about the new discoveries of specialized celvesand a human heart that allow us a

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direct access to our bodies in waysthat we've never thought possible in the past.
We thought only mystics and yogis andspecial adepts could do something like this,
and now it's becoming available to everydaypeople. So that's a long answer
to a short question. I trustin the process in the world and what
I think we're seeing is an unfoldingof understandings of what is sustainable, what's

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not, what works, what doesn't, And what we're finding is a lot
of the way we've been taught tothink is no longer sustainable. And so
we're the generation that's bridging these newdiscoveries and learning to apply them in our
world. And I can't think ofa more exciting times to be alive.
I'm sure many of your others sakersare probably saying something very similar. So
so again, that's a long answerto a short question, and I'll follow

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your lead and we can go anywherewe want to go from there. And
it's a very exciting time for sure. And I think you nailed it right
in the first half of your firstsentence in response was that you know,
before we were learning about these things. Now it's essentially I'm paraphrasing, obviously,
but basically, we have to startdoing what we've learned. Yeah,
are being well, you know,that's the thing. What's happening is in

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the mid eighteen hundreds, you know, when I began talking about the discoveries
of Charles Darwin, and you know, many of the physicists were making discoveries
in the late eighteen hundreds. Peoplesay to me, Greg, we're in
the twenty first century. What differencecould those things possibly make? And it's
a really good question, and theanswer surprises a lot of people. Yes,
we are in the early twenty firstcentury, a sophisticated, highly technological

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world. And the society that wefind ourselves in, and the way we
have been conditioned to think about jobs, industry, about our relationship to the
earth, about personal relationships, theeconomy, corporations, all of those things,
those ideas, the foundations were createdin the mid to late eighteen hundreds.

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So we are steeped in a storybased upon the science of the late
eighteen hundreds, and now the newscience is overturning many of those beliefs.
So, knowing that we live ina world of cooperation, for example,
rather than competition, that nature isactually based in cooperation. Our economic systems

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were based upon competition and conflict,based on the science of the eighteen hundreds,
and that's why the economies of theworld are in chaos right now.
We're seeing the Brexit in the MiddleEast, We're seeing the European Union face
a possible breakdown. We're looking atthe kind of debt. Here's a question,
Nicole. This is fascinating. We'veall seen nations in debt in the
past, and it's common for anothernation or a group of nations to bail

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them out. What happens when thedebt of the entire planet is greater than
what the entire planet is producing,When the GDP of the entire planet is
less than the debt that we've accumulated, who bails out an entire planet?
And I don't know the answer tothat. We're about to find out because
that's where we are right now.The industrialized nations have accrued so much debt

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that can never be paid back.That affects everything from the way that we
save for retirement, the way wesave for our kids' education, our healthcare,
all of those things. So they'rebreaking down because they are based on
principles that are simply not true.We don't live in a world of competition
and conflict. We see those things. I mean, we have to be

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real though. We definitely witness competitionand conflict in the world. And what
the scientists now are telling us isthe more of that competition in conflict that
we see in the world, thefurther we have strayed from the natural laws,
and the more difficult it is forus to find our balance. So
for me personally, I'm a scientist. I was trained as as an earth
scientist, a geologist. And Iknow some of your other guests and dear

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friends of mine, doctor Bruce Lippen, for example, and doctor Joe Despenza.
We all look to nature for themodel of helping us to understand our
relationship to ourselves and to the world, and how to build a healthy family
and a healthy community and healthy societies. So if we look to nature,
nature is showing us a very differentmodel than what we have in place right

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now, and we're seeing I thinkthe world is going through the throes of
the changes to try to get backto more of those natural states of balance.
And that's what the book Resilience fromthe Heart is all about. Because
one of the discoveries, and wementioned this briefly in another interview, one
of the discoveries that has just rockedthe world of the medical world, the

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world of biology, is the discoveryof forty thousand specialized cells in the human
heart that we're simply not recognized inthe capacity that they are right now.
They are called sensory near rights,and that's a technical term. They're essentially
brain like cells, but they're notin the brain. They're in the heart.
So these are the kind of cellsyou would expect to see in the

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cranial brain, but they're in theheart. And the reason this is important
is because these cells think independently ofthe cells in our brain, they feel
independently of the cells in our brain, and they remember independently of the cells
in our brain. So every experiencewe've had in our lives, essentially it's
recorded in two places. It's recordedin our brain and the way our brain

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interprets it, and we know aboutthat that's recorded in our heart and the
way our heart interprets these experiences throughthese forty thousand cells that have created a
neural network that is literally called literallyit's called the little brain in the heart
is the term that's being used now. So as now that we know these

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cells exist, as we're learning toaccess them, they open the door to
extraordinary abilities that I personally believe areactually ordinary abilities that we've either lost are
forgotten. And when we can embracethese abilities in our lives, it helps
us to embrace change in the world. In a healthy way. So if
we ever needed a time, orif we never needed some help in embracing

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a tremendous change happening in the world, now, I think is the time
to do that, because we areundergoing such such a radical shift in the
world that we've known in the past. So this is the theme that the
new book. In the very firstchapter you asked about the two books.
There was a book. It wasreleased, I think it was twenty fifteen
or twenty fourteen. It was calledThe Turning Point, and it was a

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good book. It put many ofthe personal applications and the direct experience and
the exercises that help people in theirlives. They were in the back of
the book. And one of thethings that I've learned, Nicole, I'm
a student of learning to listen.I'm still learning, and I work very
diligently and listening to my audience andto our global audience. And what people

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all over the world said, theysaid, we want to get to that
stuff faster. We want to getto the stuff that's going to help us
in our everyday lives, direct experience, techniques, tools, applications. So
I moved all of that to thefront and I added the new material and
the new discoveries that simply were notavailable when I had written a book two
years previous. So as new materialcovering these forty thousand near etes, how

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we access them and what it meansin a changing world. And that was
what sets those two books apart fromone another. Does that make sense that
way? It's so interesting. Decadesago I interviewed Joseph Chilton Peers, you
know, cracking the cosmic egg,and he was saying all along, you
know, for years in and yearsthat the real brain cover was in the
heart. And we've heard so manypeople refer to that. So when was

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this recent study referring to when wasthat published? Well, first, I've
had the honor of knowing, touringand presenting with Joseph Chilton Peers, and
he was working very closely with theInstitute of Heart Math each EAART capital m
at h All one word. Thisis the pioneering research organization based in northern
California that explores the power of thehuman heart in unconventional ways, in ways

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that typically aren't done in the universitiesand the medical schools, but based in
science, in peer reviewed science.So I had the opportunity of touring with
Joseph Chiltern peers during the years whena lot of this information is being developed.
The discovery was made in nineteen ninetyone, it wasn't published until nineteen
ninety four. And even though thisis fascinating for me, even though it

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was published in ninety four and itis now document, it's peer review sciences,
document is still not being taught inmajor medical institutions. And I just
came last weekend. I just camefrom a large conference and it's very common
for us to have medical professionals andhealing professionals and science and engineers in the
audience along with you know, witheveryone else, the spiritual seekers. They

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all come together because this material toucheson so many different facets of our experience.
And I had medical students audience andthey were saying, why don't we
know about this? Why isn't thisbeing taught in medical school? And I
said, you know, I can'tanswer that question, but you're here now
and now you know about it.So but it changes, it changes everything.
When we talk about this little brainin the heart and people say,

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well, you know, is itreally a brain. It is a it's
a collection of cells that are concentratedinto a network, a neural network smaller
but very similar to what we seein the brain. And we've learned to
use the brain independently. We knowthat now we know that we can use
the heart independently, and we alsoknow now that we can harmonize. We

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can literally tune the heart and thebrain together. So two separate organs,
but there is one very potent neuralnetwork to give us access to extraordinary experiences
like deep intuition on demand when wechoose to have it rather than spontaneously,
you know, when it just happensto occur. It gives us direct access

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to the subconscious. It's a hotlineto the subconscious without hypnosis and without you
know, listening to a special tapeor I mean, you can do all
those things, but sometimes they're notavailable. So direct access to the subconscious.
And this is important for people whoare using affirmations because an affirmation of
healing or health, or relationship orcareer success or self esteem or abundance or

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any of those kinds of things,they could only be effective when we are
communicating with the subconscious. And ifwe simply say these things in our mind,
but we're not accessing our subconscious,they may not have the effect that
we hope that they have. Sothis harmonizing the heart in the brain is
a direct literally is a hotline intothe subconscious to make those kinds of things
more effective. Harmonizing the heart inthe brain is a trigger for an extra

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powerful super immune response. And Icould speak for my colleagues, my dear
spiritual brothers and friends that I touredwith, such as Bruce Lifton and Joe
Despenzi. We use these tools orwe couldn't. We couldn't tour the world
with the kinds of schedules we haveif we didn't have really powerful immune systems
and the ability to regulate these things. So we apply these in our own

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lives. It's also a trigger forthe anti aging hormones that every one of
us has in our bodies. It'salso a trigger for reducing stress and creating
more resilience in our lives and timeof change. So, all of a
sudden, knowing that we have accessto these cells and that we can harmonize
our heart and a brain and ourbrain together so they could work together.

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The act of doing this, thatsingle act opens the door to this vast
array of applications, whether it's intuitionon demand or you know, the thirteen
hundred biochemical reactions, positive biochemical reactions, and we can do this. This
is what's what makes us so verypowerful. We now know that we are

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the only species known so far thatcan trigger these and initiate these relationships on
demand. Other forms of life maybe able to do it naturally, but
we can consciously say, in thismoment in time, I choose to initiate
a state of deep intuition, andthat covers everything from precognition, you know,

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knowing about something before it's going tohappen, to being able to communicate
with other forms of life, withother mammals, a lot of research is
being done with using the heart tocommunicate with other forms of life. It
just goes on and on. SoI'm sharing we're just scratching the tip of
the iceberg here. This opens theentire new door of possibilities for these experiences

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that help us in everyday life thatwe in the past believed were relegated only
to mystics and yogi's, you know, living isolated lives in the mountaintop half
a world away. We can dothis stuff in our living room, and
the science now is telling us howit works, and our most cherished and
ancient spiritual traditions are telling us howto apply these things in our lives.

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This is where these two come togetherin a really beautiful way. How do
we access and utilize these brain cellsin the heart? And have you actually
engaged in any of these experiments withanyone around that? Sure? Well,
first of all, I'll say theinstructions. I give their very detailed instructions
that are in the book Resilience fromthe Heart. The science has been validated.

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A lot of the science comes fromthe Institute of Heart Math and the
work they've done over the last twentyI'm sure it's more than twenty years now,
if they have perfected in the laboratoryand their laboratory conditions. My experience
with indigenous people is that they haveinitiated techniques that parallel what the science is
now developing. And I think ifsomething is true, I think you're going

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to see it show up in alot of different ways. So the fact
that science is now catching up scienceis only about three hundred years old.
These indigenous traditions, spiritual traditions maybewe are five thousand years old, so
catching up with what our ancestors andwhat many indigenous traditions have always told us.
So since nineteen eighty six, I'vehad the opportunity to be with our

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indigenous family in many different settings,and the monks and nuns and the abbots,
and the monasteries in Tibet and thepaul and India, and through the
Andes Mountains of Bolivia and Peru,and the monasteries in Egypt, and all
through the American desert southwest and theYucatan and Mexico and more, and as
different as they are from one another, I'll call what's so fascinating is that
there are common themes that flow throughevery one of these traditions, even though

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they're spread through different times, differentenvironments, different parts of the world.
And when I'm working with the healersand the kurandaros and the shaman the shamans
in these traditions, one of thefirst things they do before they begin whatever
their practice is is they begin toaccess their heart. And that's precisely where
the science is leading right now.So the techniques are techniques of focus of

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breathing physically being able to draw theattention from our mind into our heart.
This is I think probably one ofthe hardest thing for people in the West
to do. If I ask someonein a Western environment, in a corporate
environment, and if I asked them, if I invite them to shift their
awareness from their mind into their heart, they'll say, okay, okay,
I'm in my heart. Now what'snext? And I'll say, well,
you know, are you really inyour heart? And they say, you

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know, Well, how do youknow? And this is where where these
techniques from the indigenous people really comein handy. For example, and I'll
just share one of the techniques thatthey share is if we can touch,
gently touch our heart center, thecenter of our chest, right there on
the sternum, gently touch that ina way that's comfortable for us. Some

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people use their middle finger and theirring finger and they just simply touch touch
their right on the bone right there, right over the heart. I'm doing
it right now, as if youcould see me. And here we are
in the radio, so we're not. But some people in some traditions in
the Middle East, for example,they use an entire open palm and they

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place that palm over the center oftheir chest over their hearts, and they
do the same thing in the Yucatan, in southern Mexico, they do the
same thing. The point here isthe Buddhists. Buddhists will make the prayer
mudra that we're all familiar with,and then they hold that prayer mudra with
their thumbs right against the center oftheir chest. And this is what all
of these traditions are doing, isthey are physically touching their heart center.

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And here is the reason why that'simportant. You are now tuned in to
Nicole Whitney's news for the Soul Highlightslife changing spotlights see us shared with leading
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Our awareness, our conscious awareness willalways go to the place in our body
where we feel a physical sensation.So when we physically touch our heart center
in one of these ways, ourawareness automatically goes to the place where that
sensation is. And that is oneof the techniques that the indigenous people use
to move their awareness from their thinkingmind into their feeling heart. So I'm

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just using that as an example,and then there's breathing techniques that come after
that are now validated. We haveequipment technology that we can hook people up
to specialize pieces of software and beable to actually see the effect in their
bodies that are occurring from making theseconnections. So we can talk more about

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that if you'd like to. Don'tknow how far you want to go with
all of this, well down therabbit hole. Yeah, absolutely. I'll
just reminds people listening if you missedit. You mentioned heartmath. I talked
to Howard Martin. I think itwas a couple of weeks ago, and
that's in the archives that needs tothe soil dot com. And it's funny,
you know when you hear things themthrees this independently, This general topic

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about the power to power of theheart has come up three times in a
tendently in three different ways for methis week. So I know this is
important and ultimately tying it back intocurrent world abouts would be awesome. But
tell us what's next? What's next? Where that where you wanted to go?
Oh? Well, you just mentionedHoward Martin. Howard I met Howard

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because of Haartmouth in the early nineteennineties and I trained directly with Howard Martin,
who is one of the founders ofthe Institute of Heartmouth, and I've
had the opportunity to tour the world. We have been on stages everywhere,
and now I can call him adear friend as well. So many of
the things that I am saying herefrom my perspective, Howard and institut of
heart Math have given me permission asan independent author to share my experience in

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my perspective, integrating their work atthe same time, so where I've had
more experience with Indigenous people and howIndigenous people throughout the different traditions, how
they have learned to apply this inour lives. Howard and the research team
the rock solid science behind this stufffrom their institute in northern California. They

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come out from a little bit differentperspective when they're training, you know,
in the corporate environment or with theUS military or something like that. But
the bottom line for both is thatwe're getting people into their hearts, and
that means different things to different people. Nicole, we were conditioned if we
were educated in the West, andI'm assuming most of our listeners may not
be in North America. But havea Western education. We've been taught that

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the brain is the master organ ofthe body. And we all know the
brain is important. Of course,it regulates hormones, it regulates, you
know, the temperature in our body, and a lot of the rhythms and
the cycles and the functions within ourbodies. But what we now know is
the brain receives the instructions that tellit what to do. Many of those
instructions come directly from the heart.Every moment of every day. There's this

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conversation between our heart and our brain. It's happening right now. For everyone
listening. There's a conversation. Speakdirectly to our listeners. Listeners, there's
a conversation happening right now between yourheart and your brain. Your heart is
having a big conversation with your brainthrough the vagus nerve. It's sending a
lot of information through this thick nervebundle into your brain. Your brain speaks
to the heart less it can.It's not as big of a conversation,

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and it's coming primarily through the spinalcolumn, down through the back of the
brain, and then down through thenerves and the spinal cord. So we're
always having this conversation. The questionis do we know what we're saying?
Do we know what it is thatour heart is saying to our brain.
And that is the core of thesenew discoveries and the ancient traditions, And

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it's by learning to focus in ourheart, to breathe specific ways, and
to feel very specific kinds of feelingsthat we set up a dialogue, and
the dialogue can be measured electrically.It's a very low frequency. Point one
hurts, not even one point onehurts is the frequency that's optimum between the
heart in the brain. So whenwe can focus in our hearts, breathe

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a little slower than usual, signalingsafety to our bodies by breathing a little
bit slower than usual, and wecan begin feeling positive what I would call
I don't like to judge feelings,but it's what we call positive feelings,
such as gratitude, appreciation, care, compassion. Those are four big ones
that the scientists have found work formost people in almost one hundred percent of

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the time. So if you canchoose one of those gratitude, appreciation,
care, or compassion, this combinationof events, the breathing, the focus,
and the feeling, and this iskey. When we can feel one
or some combination of those four feelings, our body interprets that as this electrical
signal from the heart to the brainand the optimum signals point one hurts.

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And when we can establish point onehurts, we can feel the feelings of
point one hurts between our heart andour brain. We are said to be
in high heart brain coherence, andthat heart break main coherence is the key
to everything that we're talking about here. So in the new book that you
mentioned, Resilience from the Heart,first chapter we talked about the new discovery
the cells forty thousand specialized cells,and then throughout the book what this means

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and how we apply it in ourlives through various exercises. So that's that's
the essence of what that book isall about. So our feelings the key,
the doorway. You know, it'sinteresting, they are not exclusively the
key. They are an important componentthat's been discounted in our culture for most
you know, most people. Wehave feelings and emotions and experiences, and

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we've been conditioned to discount them toa large extent until recently, people in
their fifties and sixties right now.Remember when we were taught that, you
know, you know, your feelings, aren't you know, they're not really
real. I mean it, it'sjust a feeling, is what they used
to tell us. You know,it was discounted. Now we know that
the feeling is a powerful component inthese indigenous traditions, and interestingly, Nicole,

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the very texts of our most cherishedspiritual traditions, the Western Bible,
for example, and some of theEastern traditions, when they were edited and
there were pieces that were removed orcondensed, what was taken out was the
information that tells us the power ofhuman emotion. So, for example,
in the Christian Bible, the NewTestament, the New Testament. And this

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isn't about religion, this is aboutinstructions. This is about the masters of
the past informing their students of thedeep relationship that their students had within themselves
and with the world around them.And those were based upon spiritual principles.
The religions came along later and wrappedthe rules and the dogma around those fundamental

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spiritual principles for control. But beforethe religions ever existed, those principles were
already there, and so that's whyI'm mentioning this. So, for example,
New Testament, we know at leastforty three books were removed in the
fourth century by the Emperor Constantine,and what we see today is the reduced,
rearranged, condensed version. It's good, but it isn't complete. And

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we know that because the nag HamadiLibrary, discovered in the mid nineteen forties
revealed for the first time the originalall the text in their original form,
and among those was a book calledthe Gospel of Thomas. So the Gospel
of Thomas contains very specific instructions forthe kinds of things that we're talking about

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that were simply removed from the Biblicalcanon, from the modern Bible in the
fourth century, telling us about thepower of human emotion and how to use
that emotion for healing in our lives. So that's one example of where we've
known this in the past, andthen for a number of reasons, that
knowledge was taken from one of ourmost cherished spiritual traditions, and now it's

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being reintroduced from the language of science. So the power of human emotion is
what establishes that point one hurts arelationship between the heart and the brain.
You can be in your heart andnot have the heart brain relationship, and
that is another technique. Sometimes wedon't need that full heart brain relationship.

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Sometimes we can simply focus in ourhearts through touching our heart center the way
that I mentioned, and through breathingtechniques that slow our breathing so that we
know that we're in a place that'ssafe. And there are sometimes for certain
kinds of intuition, the technique stopsthere. That's all you need. And
if you want to go deeper andinitiate some of the healing techniques and things
like that, then you can establishthat heart brain coherence. Also. It

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has been found to be very effective. I just want to ask, have
you, I'm assuming you've had Joedespens It on your program, if you
had Joe on recently? Yes,not recently, I haven't talked to him
in a few years, but yes, you've been on it phone. Okay.
Well, one of the things andthe reason I asked doctor Joe despends
It is a neuroscientist talks about neuroplasticityand the way the brain can change.

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Another one of the new discoveries,Nicole. I mean this uff it just
goes on and on because the scienceis moving so fast right now. One
of the discoveries is the existence ofa brain state above the brain states that
we've typically seen in our you know, our high school and college biology books
with the alpha and the and thebeta states. Now we have a gamma
state. And the gamma state isa very very fast brain wave. It

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is associated with super learning, sofor example, and total recall. So
if people have seen movies like ifyou've ever seen Jason Bourne, you know
the Matt Damon and all of theJason Bourne movies where he does these amazing
He could walk into a room,he looks at the room, once he
leaves, and he has totally recalledeverything in the room. Those techniques are

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actually being taught today and they're usingwhat we're talking about now, this heart
brain connection for not only to takein tremendous amounts of information, but to
be able to access to recall theinformation that we have. Super learning is
what it's called. So in agamma state that is achieved through this heart
brain connection, we are not onlysuper learning, but it also helps people

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in who are dealing with depression.It moves them out of the state of
depression by being in the Gama state. So there are many benefits health benefits,
even if people aren't into what wewould call the necessarily the spiritual aspect,
that they're not into the intuition orsubconscious or any of those things.
Simply harmonizing the heart in the brainis a really healthy thing to do,

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and it's something that can be donebefore we do the other things, the
other practices that we have. Soif we have a yoga practice, for
example, yoga goes much better whenour heart brain is harmonized in coherence.
We have a martial arts practice,we're much more effective when our heart and
brain is in coherence. So whatI like to say is everything goes better
with coherence. You are now tunedin to Nicole Whitney's News for the Soul

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Highlights life changing spotlights see us sharedwith leading teachers in the human consciousness field
since nineteen ninety seven. Go downto newsforthsoul dot com to hear the full
shows totally free. That's newsfthsoul dotcom. So it's not in place of
we become coherent and then go aboutdoing the practices that are important to us

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and these techniques Howard may have mentionedthis. They're actually being used in the
US military, all four branches ofthe US military, for our amazing men
and women who are serving our countryright now in ways that we just don't
get to hear about. They're doingmuch more than working on the battlefield.
So much is going on rebuilding infrastructureand education and medical and all kinds of

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things. But before they're deployed,many of them are learning about heart brain
harmony so that they are focused whenthey're in their deployment. And the flip
side that I think is really excitingis once your nervous system is wired for
battlefield conditions or for survival, whenyou're deployed, you know, halfway around

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the world in Iraq or Afghanistan orsomewhere like that, it doesn't turn off
the moment you get on the planeto come home. And the very sad
statistics that we're seeing about US menand women service men and women coming home
and high rates of suicide, andit's very sad to talk about high rates
of divorce things like that because they'rehaving problems reintegrating. How do you make

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that shift from being in the battlefieldto walk down the streets of you know,
san Francisco or Chicago, or Albuquerque, New Mexico, or you know
wherever, and these techniques are actuallybeing used to help them reintegrate and reset.
The term is to reset their nervoussystems. Also being used by first
responders e MTS, police, firefirst responders. Right after nine to eleven

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they started using the technique. SoI'm just saying this so that our listeners
can know this is more than simplya spiritual practice. It is the doorway
to the spiritual practices that I've experiencedpersonally through my indigenous experiences or my experiences
with indigenous people. But it isalso physiologically. It's a really healthy thing

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to do, and it opens thedoor to triggering healthy, healthy states within
us. As I mentioned, overthirteen hundred biochemical reactions positive biochemical reactions just
from doing this one technique. Again, was a long answer to a short
question. But I just wanted peopleto know that the many applications for something
like this. You know, intellectuallyit makes sense, and based on the

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conversations we've had over the decades ofthe connections with the heart and the power
that in bypassing the straight conscious mind, it don't make sense right So how
do we apply this or can weapply this to manifesting a more positive outlook
path for the collective in the worldright now? Well, this is It's

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a really good question, Nicole,And this is another facet of the studies
that are being done pioneered by theInstitute of Heartmouth. And as a former
geologist, I'm not a practicing geologistnow, but i am an earth scientist,
so I find this what I'm aboutto share especially fascinating. We've all
heard of the magnetic field of theEarth, and the magnetic field that a

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lot of people don't know is thatit influences every form of life. I
mean every blade of grass, everydog, every cat, every hamster,
every goldfish, every CEO of everycorporation, every leader of every nation.
There is no them in us whenit comes to the magnetic field of the
Earth. There is only a we. We are all deeply influenced by this

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field. And here's the reason thatI'm saying this and why it's important,
is because the science is showing veryclearly that when the magnetic field of the
Earth is strong, it influences usin a positive way. We become less
aggressive, more cooperative, more willto work together better listeners, and when
the magnetic fields are weak, justthe opposite happens. We become more aggressive,

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less willing to work together. Andunfortunately, we discovered this through nine
to eleven. Nine to eleven wasthe first time that scientists discovered how deep
our relationship to the Earth really goes. Now, maybe to our listeners,
we say, you know, thisis no big news to us. We've
always known this. That's to thelisteners of this program. But scientists have

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been trained to think of humans asseparate from one another, separate from the
Earth, and they've been trained tobelieve that we have very little influence over
our own bodies and over what happensin the world. And nine to eleven
taught scientists that that's not true.And here is what happened. The magnetic
fields I just described. They're soimportant that we have satellites every thirty minutes,

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maybe even more frequently, but everythirty minutes they send data back to
the Earth to tell scientists how strongthose fields are and what's happening. They
fluctuate on a daily basis. Thereare rhythms, They ebb and they flow.
It looks like a big sine wave. Every twenty four hours, the
magnetic fields of the Earth ebb andthey flow, and they ebb and they
flow. Scientists knew that. Butwhat happened was there was one day when

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the magnetic data from the Earth therewas this huge spike. It was higher
than what they would traditionally see,and they weren't used to seeing that,
and they said, well, youknow what on Earth, I mean,
literally, one on Earth is happeningto make these magnetic fields so strong.
And they looked at the date wherethat spike occurred, and it was nine

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am Eastern Standard time, September eleventh, two thousand and one. It was
fifteen minutes after the first planes hitthe first tower of the World Trade Center.
So the scientists believe it took aboutfifteen minutes for those horrific images that
we all remember, those of usthat were living men, They believe it
took about fifteen minutes for those imagesto circulate the globe and for people to

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respond emotionally to what they were seeing. And for most people, that response
it was a heart based response.Now they were different, some of them
were Some of it was fear,some of it was sadness, some of
it was shock. But everyone.It was a heart based experience. The
strongest magnetic field generated in the humanbody is generated by the human heart,

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and some people are surprised by thatbecause they think it's the brain. The
brain has a magnetic and electrical field, but it's weak compared to the human
heart. The heart has the strongestelectrical and the strongest magnetic field in the
human body. So nine to eleven, what happened was hundreds of millions of
people simultaneously were witnessing the horrors ofNew York City in nine to eleven,

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and hundreds of millions of hearts weregenerating increased magnetic response to what they were
seeing. That actually influenced the magneticfields of planet Earth. And this is
what was showing up on the satellitedata. We spiked the magnetic field of
our planet in response to what wesaw. And here's why that's important if

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you and your listeners can remember it. At least at least for a few
days after nine to eleven, wewere so close as a global family.
I mean not only in America.I was in Australia when the whole thing
happened. I couldn't even come homefor a few days, so I know
that it wasn't only in America,but we were close as a family.
People in big cities. They lookedat each other in the eyes, and
they spoke at one another, andthere were hugs that were happening, and

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there was this sense of unity.And scientists attribute that to the high magnetic
fields of the planet that resulted fromour seeing what had happened. So the
question became, immediately, can wecreate that kind of an experience without the
tragedy. Can we consciously raise thatmagnetic field of the planet with having a

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tragedy that we react to. Canwe do it? Because we choose to,
and the answers yes, And thisbecame the foundation of a project that
is spearheaded by the Institute of HeartMath and for Transparency. One of our
listeners know, I'm on the steeringcommittee and a spokesperson for this project that
is called the GCI, the GlobalCoherence Initiative. So the personal coherence we

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just talked about, personal coherence isgood for us individually, global coherence is
good for the planet. And whathas happened. They just make a long
story very brief because I know we'recoming up on the end of our hour
here satellites to detect these fields arevery expensive. So the scientists the Institute
of Heart Math worked on ground basedsensors and created a network of these sensors

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in different nations that all feedback toone computer in northern California, and they
measure the planet's response in our interactionwith the planet. They measure these magnetic
fields every day and if people wantto see these, you can actually see
them real time and you can seethem about I think they post them usually
at midnight after the data has beenanalyzed every day at www dot heart math,

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h E A R T M AT H all one word dot org
and then go to GCI Global CoherenceInitiative doesn't cost you anything. You can
see the live data, you cansee the science, you can read about
the sensors. So we now havea way of feedback mechanism so we can
see what's happening with the fields ofthe Earth. That's part one. Part
two is training people to create thisheart brain coherence so that throughout every day

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across this planet there are people thatare literally feeding the field in a positive
way. So we're all feeding itevery day, we're all having feelings.
The question is what are we feedingthe field every day? And it's by
learning these various techniques of heart braincoherence that we're actually contributing not only to
our own health, contributing to thefield that influences our cooperation or lack of

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cooperation on the planet. So itis two things happening here. We've got
personal and we've got global healing thatis occurring from embracing this relationship that was
known by our ancestors in ancient traditionsand is now being validated and reconfirmed and
expanded through the best science of themodern world. And it all happens within

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the context of a world that we'reliving, a time of extremes. The
world is changing faster than we've beenprepared to accept, and for many of
us, we're just not used tothat kind of change. So I think
when I said I trust in theprocess, it's only now that the science
is giving us the tools to tuneour bodies and harmonize to the rate of
change that we're seeing in the worldwhile the demand for that change is emerging.

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And I think it's perfect symmetry,perfect timing. I don't understand everything
that's happening. I don't claim toothat I do trust in the process,
and as I see it unfolding,Wow, that's exciting. Little coherence sounds
very intriguing. When next time wetalked about to get more into that.
I'm curious that if you know,there was any kind of major saying tracks

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on November twenty sixteen, if therewere any major the signal broke up a
little bit. I couldn't hear whatyou said, Nicole, all right,
major energy shift tracked on November eight, twenty sixteen. You know, it
was interesting. I went back.It was not what people would have expected.
I went back and I looked atthe magnetic fields. You're talking about

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the elections, right, yeah,yeah, I went back and I looked.
Well, first I compared. Iwent back to Obamas first election,
the very first time he was elected, and what the data showed is that
there was a lot of excitement inthe fields leading up to his inauguration and
on inauguration day, not so muchthe election, but on inauguration day the

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field became very quiet. It wasthe global energetic field became very quiet.
Scientists are reluctant to say one thingcauses another, so what they will say
is that something correlates with another,and there's a high correlation between a calm
that came that flowed across the planet, at least in those magnetic fields.

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And when the inauguration happened and thenlasted for a few days, we didn't
see that kind of change. Butwe also didn't see a lot of you
know, they thought they're scientists,and many casual observers thought there might be
some kind of you know, anxietyshowing up in the field, and that
didn't really show up either, atleast initially. It showed up a few

(47:40):
days. I think it was threeor four days later, there started to
be a lot of activity in thefield. And if you if you go
on this website, the bright thebright areas that you see on those twenty
four hour charts, that is wherethere's a high level of activity. And
when you see the dark blues andwe don't see much happening there, that
is those are or the quieter areas. So there was a I think people

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were surprised what happened during the electionand inauguration, and I think maybe the
field. This is my personal opinion. This isn't Hartman saying this. My
personal feeling is I think people theworld was surprised and was kind of I
think the magnetic fields are reflecting us, kind of letting it sink in what
has just happened. And it tooka few days do that, and then

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then about three days later we startedseeing a lot of really a lot of
activity. And that's I think whenpeople figured out what just happened and they
said, Okay, you know nowwhat what's next? So that makes sense?
Yeah, that makes sense. Wellthat's the very intriguing project. I
was not aware of that. Andnow I'm on my data, so I'm
going to be on there for severalhours. That's fun. Thanks for letting

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us you were able to bring it. Bring up the site while we're talking.
Yes, I went into global coherenceunder research and then live data.
Yeah, yeah, so you cansee the data. What's important here is
this project. And I'll tell youeveryone that's fascinated by this US military,
mainstream scientists, we have never neverhas we've never had this depth of understanding

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between the human body and the magneticfields of the Earth as individuals and the
collective response and our collective relationship tothis field. And it goes back.
It hearkens back to this idea thatwe are part of the world rather than
separate from We are part of aliving system, and we influence this system

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consciously or subconsciously, whether we knowit or not, we're influencing it.
And now we have the ability toconsciously come together as a global community and
through doing something that's good for usindividually collectively, it's good for our communities
and it's good for nations. AndI can't think of a better time to

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have that ability and to breathe lifeinto that ability, and maybe not a
better way to end our program becauseit looks like almost the top of the
hour for you, So we are. I really appreciate you, your work,
your long years of dedication to bringingthis information for it, and I
hope you'll join me when your nextbook comes out October to discuss that as

(50:13):
well. I would love to.All I need is an invitation. So
I think I just heard one.Yeah, Nicole, thank you, Thank
you so much for the work you'redoing, and everyone listening, I just
want to thank you all for allyou're doing, just to be the best
person you can be and to createthe best world possible. I'm an optimist.
I've never been more optimistic about ourworld, and I'm also a realist.

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We have a lot of work todo to bring what we know in
our hearts to fruition in our lives. And I just want to say one
thing about work. The prophet KhalilGlebron, the poet and the prophet and
the author in the twentieth century,and his book that was titled The Prophet,
he wrote about work and what hesaid very clearly, and I read
this when I was ten years oldand it's been with me ever since.

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He said, work is our lovemade visible? Is love made visible,
and it's going to take a lotof work to change the way we think
and live. That's our love madevisible. And I think we're worth it,
and I think our world is worthit. So that's what I'd like
to leave our listeners with today,Nicole Perfect Resilience from the Hearts. Greg
Braden's latest book. We'll talk tohim again soon, and Greg, thank

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you so much for being here today. Thank you so much. Iather forward
it next time. Take care.I'm looking forward to it already. Greg
Bradon can be found online and linkedup at newsforthosoul dot com. This will
be in the archives and re airedon our California stations this week, and
we'll go out from there. Weare back with more right after this.

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you, Nicole. You have createdsort of an eight niche of amazing,
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angel telling somebody goes, hey,listen, get on this show. Listen
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It's really amazing. It's hard tobelieve it's seventeen years and there in Vancouver
and you were sitting there in classand you were using remogioing, and I

(52:51):
think I said to you that youwere going to be a radio talk show
host or something along those lines.It wasn't really a prediction. It was
just a sense of who you wereand what you were doing in the direction
you were going. Wow, welland there you were and still no life.
But it's amazing look at what you'vedone with it. I just wanted

(53:13):
to say, I'm very proud ofyou for what you've accomplished, for just
the format, to the assemblage ofwonderful people, great minds, and people
who are working to serve humanity anddo the things that they do. It's
really I've been looking through your listof coolers and I mean of interviewees,

(53:36):
and you just do a tremendous job. I'm so proud of you. I
really am. And I'm proud ofall the people that support you and follow
you and do what they do andjust keep doing that for this wonderful woman.
It's so important because there are nota lot of really high quality message
portals that are around there where messengersget to come in and say what they
want to say in this format.Because of your support of her, that

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she's able to continue doing that.So please step that up and continue doing
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the uplifting to the unexplained. Andover the many years that we've been around,
we have talked to one very specialscientist and author with a real gift
in bridging science and spirit. DoctorBruce Lifted is with me here for the
next hour here today on News forthe Soul, and I actually can't remember
in the last time we talked tohim live, but he's the author of

(57:37):
Biology of Belief and it, believeit or not, is the tenth anniversary
of Biology and Belief, so we'regoing to be talking about that in case
you don't know. He is astem cell biologist, best selling author,
recipient of the two thousand and nineDei Piece Award, and he's been a

(57:58):
guest speaker on of TV and radioshows, including ours, over the years.
And like I said, bridging scienceand spirit, there's great power in
that one place, and that's wherewe began. Doctor Bruce Lipton, welcome
back to News for This Soul.Thank you so very much. I'm so
happy to be back on the show, and I'm so happy to be able
to talk to the wonderful audience becausethere are my cultural creatives, the ones

(58:22):
that are helping create a new civilization, and I so appreciate them. You
know, so much has happened inthat field since you and I first ever
spoke and when you began on yourpath. It's amazing now to see the
changes coming to pass that we justtalked about seeing before. Well, For

(58:43):
me, it's very exciting because itwas an opportunity to see something and then
I had to be patient enough towait long enough for the public to get
it. But it's like, forme, it was so exciting to see
a whole different understanding of the planetand the world we live in and the
nature of spirituality, which as ascientist I never entertained that idea really,
and through the study of the cells, it was like, oh my gosh,

(59:07):
we're not in here, We're broadcastand it's like wow. So that
was like an instant transformation from nonspiritual and spiritual at about a minute of
like, oh my god, that'show it works. Oh oh god,
I'm not in here, but yes, go ahead, darning what's happening?

(59:28):
Why tenth anniversary? What's changed?Where do you want to start with this
today? Well, basically the newedition of the book for me is kind
of fun because I was asked whenI was talking with hay House and it
was like, well, it wascoming up ten years and I thought this
would be a good time to revisean update, I thought, And so

(59:49):
they said, hey, okay,why don't we do that, take a
look at it, And for me, what was the really most exciting point.
I hadn't read the book for tenyears, I guess anyway, and
I sat down and read the book, and I got to the and I
said, wow, I don't haveto change a word of this book.
It's exactly right from the ten yearsof science. And I said, but
I said, oh, but alot has happened in the last ten years

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of new stuff that is relevant toour lives. And I thought, no,
I really wanted to include some whathas happened in ten years. So
there's an additional forty or more pagesof current things, including wonderful discussion about
something called Keelomeres, which I presumewas talked about on your show at sometimes

(01:00:32):
right, Kilo Meres doesn't make anysense. Yeah, oh my goodness,
Oh my goodness. The fountain ofyouth, there is an absolute fountain of
youth, and it's a oh well, that's part of the book. And
then there's a lot more on thenature of how we malign the concept of
cholesterol as being something bad when that'snot true at all, that we blame

(01:00:57):
this thing, and then we tryto regulate cholesterol, which is like,
oh my god. The machine isa very complicated body inside it's a machine.
And when you start throwing drugs inthere sort of like throwing monkey races
into the machine sometimes. So thestatin drugs which people are on is like,
oh my god, is completely wrong. So the interesting ideas about new

(01:01:19):
ways of looking at life, andit comes down to also the main thing
about stress, because we look atyou know, illness and disease and we
say, oh, well, there'sgenetics behind it, and it comes out,
well, less than one percent ofdisease is genetically based, and that
should stop. People say well wait, and then less than one percent comes
from genetics and biology, then wheredoes the disease come from? And it

(01:01:43):
turns out lifestyle and stress, andall of a sudden that becomes really important
because if we blame genes, thenpeople just say, oh, I had
nothing to do with me. It'smy heredity. You know. It's like,
oh my god, my life waspredetermined by those genes. And that
may people feel like they're victims.Well, I didn't pick the change that

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I can change them, and apparentlythey're controlling my life. And then I
say yeah, but when we understandthe whole new biology is coming together,
it reveals no, we're not victims. We're actually controlling our lives. But
we had no understanding of how theinvisible operation of the control was going on.
So we had no awareness that wewere involved with every aspect of our

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life. And now the new biologysays, oh my goodness, we are
the masters. We are the onesthat control our behavior and our genetics and
all aspects of our lives. Butwe just didn't have the understanding or programming
to know that while we have thatopportunity, we haven't been doing it.

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We've been running by programs. Sothis awakening is what coming from the idea
of victim of your life to theunderstanding that we are masters, that we
can control this biology and insight andprofoundly influenced every life aspect on the outside
when we start to understand the newbiology. So maybe a quick recap on

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your original uha for the matty thatare still unfamiliar with your story and in
many countries listening right now. Yeah, I think, well that's really important
because this is the foundation of today. It has become a revolution in planetary
awareness that changes the things we werejust talking about going from victim to master.

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When I was back, let's sayin nineteen seventy and being involved with
teaching in a medical school. Iwas teaching medical students the belief that Jane
control life, the idea that mostpeople still hold. Anyway, I was
teaching it back then, and atthe same time, I was cloning stem
cells. And this is like fortysome years ago. And what I found

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in the stem cell culture was Iwould put one cell in a petri dish
that's an embryonic like cell multipotential andI put one stem cell in a Petrie
dish by itself, and it woulddivide every ten hours, and after a
week you'd have about fifty thousand cellsbecause it keeps doubling and doubling. And
I said, but what's interesting,they're fifty thousand genetically identical cells. The

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experiment I did was split the cellsup into three different Petri dishes and change
the environment a little bit in eachdish. And you say, well,
what's the environment, I say,well, we grow cells in culture medium
a fluid And I go, why, Well, because that's the natural state
inside the body. They're inside afluid system. When you cut yourself open
and fluid fleek out. So basically, cells grow in a fluid environment,

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and I say, well, whatis the composition or you know, how
do you make up an environment forcells? I go, you identify the
blood components from the organism where youget the cells from. So, in
other words, if I grow mousecells, I make culture medium based on
the blood components found in mouse blood. And when I grow human cells,
I try to make culture medium whichhas the same composition as human blood.

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So it's like they're at home.So I say, okay, what did
I do? I have genetically identicalcells three dishes, but I changed the
composition of the culture medium a littlebit in each of the three dishes,
so I have genetically identical cells,but a different environment in each dish.
And the result was in one dishthe Seals worm muscle, and the second
dish the Seales worm bone, andin the third dish the Sales worm fat

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cells. Well there's a very profoundpoint here. It's like, well,
who or what controlled the fate ofthe cells? Point they were all genetically
identical, So it was you know, it wasn't built into the genes where
this program unfolded from. They allhad the same gene. It turned out
it was the environment and the relevanceabout that is here. I am in

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the classroom teaching students genes are makingdecisions change, turn on and off,
change control life. And then Ifind out in my research it's like that's
not true at all. It waslike whoa. And basically that was some
pioneering work. Today's field of sciencethat is really focusing on what I was

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seeing forty years ago is called epigenetics. And you say, well, it
sounds like genetics. I go,here's the difference. When I was teaching
a medical school, I was teachingwhat was called genetic control, simply control
by genes. I say, buttoday the science is not called genetics,
called epigenetics. And I say,well, what's the EPI? I say,
oh, EPI means above, SoI say, oh, then when

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I talk about today epigenetic control,I am saying control above the genes.
This is the whole remarkable evolution.We were thinking genes turn on and off.
That's a total false statement. Genesare blueprints. They have no more
activity than a blueprint in an architect'soffice. They're just patterns. But the

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idea about it is something selects thepatterns and selects the programming above the genes,
and that's what we're beginning to findout. It's the environment that is
adjusting the biology, so that whatever'sgoing on the environment influences your biology.
So you walk outside and it's warmout, and the skin feels warm.

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The biology adjusts itself now to cooldown the body. Oh we walk outside
when it's cold out. Oh,when you feel the environment of cold,
the body adjusts itself to make itselfwarm. So the body is adjusting itself
to the environment. And I say, well, why is that relevant?
And I go, well, someenvironments are very healthy and some environments are

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not very healthy. And when weget sick, we have a tendency to
say, oh, the genes andthe biology are the problem. Now we
know that over ninety percent of illnessis not due to the genes at all.
Less than one percent of bullness isthe James And so where's the illness
coming from? And it says theenvironment. And here's the catch, Nicole

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it and it's not just environment,but our perception of the environment. And
I say this becomes very important becausethe environment hot cold outside directly affects the
temperature of the body straight on oneto the other. But if there's something
going on in your life and youhave a vision of it. You have

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a perception on is this good oris this bad? Is this threatening or
is this loving? That's a perceptionat that moment. And I say,
why is it relevant? Because whateveryou're saying is turned into chemistry that goes
into the blood, and the bloodis the culture medium that controls the genetics
and the behavior. So a simplehere's the simplest understanding. It is so

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profound. It works like this,is that the chemical composition of the blood
controls the fate and genetics of thecell. And then I say the brain
is the thing that creates chemistry andthe blood. And then I say,
yeah, but what chemical should thebrain put into the blood? And I
say, well, whatever picture isin the mind. And when we were

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younger, we probably played with somethingcalled paint by numbers, where you get
a picture with outlines and numbers init, and you get a set of
paints with numbers on each different color, and then you put the colors into
the spaces and then lo and behold, you create this masterpiece of art.
And I say, you know what'sinteresting, and this is how simple life
is. I love how simple itbecomes It's like this. The brain and

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blood relationship is paint by numbers inreverse, meaning you first start with a
picture in your mind, and thenthe brain breaks the picture down in the
numbers. But instead of paints,the numbers represent neuro hormones and growth factors

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and regulators and immune system controls andall these things. So, in other
words, your mind sees a picture, your brain breaks it down into a
compliment to that picture in regard tonerve secretions, and that then goes into
the body and controls the behavior.So what's the point. Your biology is
a reflection of what you see goingon in the world, and if you

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change how you see the world,you change your biology and you change your
genetics. A wonderful insight which ismentioned in the book is the Dean Ornish,
an internist from San Francisco who's donea lot of wonderful work. He
took his prostate cancer patients, splitthem into two groups. He read the

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genetic readout of both groups of patientsat the start. One group got the
regular medical treatment, whatever the drugsand stuff that was, and the other
group got no drugs or anything.What they got was lifestyle changes. They
learned how to eat a better diet, they learned how to reduce stress,
they learned how to meditate, andninety days after the start of the experiment,

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they then read the genes of bothgroups and the drug gene people the
gene stayed exactly the same as theywere, but in the group that did
lifestyle change, five hundred genes,many of them directly associated with the prostate
cancer changed their function in that ninetyday period of what just changing lifestyle.

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So there's the beautiful part about allof this, Nicole, is that we're
transitioning in a world where we havebeen taught to believe we are victims,
victims of our heredity, and thatwhen you're a victim, you give up
responsibility because you have no control anyway. And also then you give up your
savings to anybody who says they're goingto help you with your problem. And

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then I say, what's happening today? And it turns around. Now if
we understand how the mechanism works.Now, it's how our thoughts and our
beliefs in our mind are are translatedby the biology into the chemistry of our
blood, which is then controlling behaviorand genetics. And if we know that

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just as we just said. Thenit basically says, this is what if
you change your behavior and I go, well, then you change your biology
at that point and all of asudden it says, oh, my goodness,
then we are masters of our biology. We're not victims of anything.
The only thing, we're victims ofthe belief that we're victims, and that
that's wrong. So this is anexciting time a revolution on the planet,

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especially when you consider the healthcare crisis, the money, the amount of money
that we're spending to bring people tohealth through a model that says, oh,
it's just a broken genes and brokenbody and give them some chemistry and
they'll come back and then find outit had nothing to do with that except
for one percent. But it hadto do with our lifestyle, our beliefs,

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our spirituality, our attitudes about life, love, diet, and exercise.
There you go, and those arethings we can control. And if
you understand we can control it,then it says, oh, then you
don't have to be unhealthy if youdon't want to be, because we can
change our environment and we can changeour perceptions, which is huge. Of

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course, why you're you and whatyou're doing. The perceptions are think as
easy to change as you're suggesting,Yes, when you have knowledge of how
to change them. And if youdon't have an understanding, then it's one

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of the more difficult processes in ourlives because there's a mechanism and we have
to understand. Let me just giveyou the idea of how powerful a perception
is, because it's a in somestage shows with hypnosis, they hypnotize an
individual and they tell that person,we're going to touch you with a burning
cigarette on your arm, and underthat state of hypnosis, that individual under

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hypnosis perceived that's what happened. Butthe person only touched them with their finger,
just you know, touch their armwith their finger, and within a
minute or two a blister begins toform. And it's like, didn't just
form anywhere, formed exactly where theperson got touched. And you stop for
a second and say, how canyou accommodate that? How does you make

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any sense out of that? Becausethe logic thing obviously the skin did not
get burnt at all. And yousay, well, but their blister formed
exactly where you touch And the answerwas this, the perception of the mind
saw a burn and the mind controlledthe biology to manifest the blister, and
all of a sudden you say,oh my god, look like a manifest

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the blister and it never really occurred. And I go, And this is
why we have to really understand whyour perceptions are so important, because if
they're negative perceptions, without our evenunderstanding it, we are translating those into
our negative status of our health.And all of a sudden, it's like,
oh my god. To get thehealth back. They say, well,
we'll go to doctor, will getsome jobs. I go, no,

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you want the health back. Ittake away the negative image, take
away that perception very simply. Youknow, I'm trying. I'm sorry,
I keep talking so much. Theycalled it. They're trying to get this
out. How simple this is.When I was learning how to grow cells
in tissue culture, one of thefirst things I learned was this was that
after I put the cells into theculture, the procedure of getting them and

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then putting them in the culture,I put the dishes in the incubator overnight
and come back and look at themin the morning. And my major advisor
at the time in teaching me howto do this, and when you come
back in the morning. If thecells don't look good, I mean,
you know, they're not healthy lookingand they don't look right, don't blame
the cells. First look at theconditions of the culture medium. And why

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that was relevant was at some pointwas I didn't even know it. But
years later that's what the epigenetic scienceultimately came to say, was that it's
the environment that is manifesting that.So I take a dish of healthy cells,
put it in a less than optimumenvironment, and the cells start to
get sick and die. And thenif you you know, if there was
a cell doctor and say, oh, Bruce, your cells are sick of

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you. We should get a prescriptionand give them some drugs, and I
go, no, all you haveto do is take the cells from the
bad environment, move them into thegood environment, and they will instantly get
healthy again. The point the cellsbecome a compliment because it sounds yeah,

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I gotta cut off, I'm back, Will, sounds so simple, so
well, we didn't talk about changing. But that's how simple it works.
I mean, that's the that's theamazing part, is like that we can
imagine all kinds of complexities why mylife turned out this way and if you
leave out this first understanding is thatyour perceptions are creating this unfolding, then

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we're really lost because we're trying tofigure out how the outside did that to
me when we have responsibility. Atsome point, should I hello, you

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sort of cut out for a minute. We're all little intermittent glitches, So
just the last ten seconds cut out. Okay, you can edit that.
Well, no, we're live.Oh my goodness. Well you got to
go with the flow, you know, so and so. Yeah, it's

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just very basically, it's important forus to recognize that if we own that
we have responsibility, then it meanswe own that we can do something about
it. And as you brought up, changing the perceptions, and as you
also brought up, it seems tobe very hard because so many people have
difficulty and changing it. You know, you read all the self help books,

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you go to the videos and watchthe lectures, you do all these
things, and no matter how muchlearning you get about how it should be,
it's hardly changes. Oh my god, it changes heart. Well,
to break it down, let's makeit understanding about this. The mind,
which is controlling the system, isactually comprised of two independent parts that are

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connected together. One is called thesubconscious mind, and that mind is the
equivalent of a record playback device,like a CD recorder. You record something,
you push play and then plays itback. Every time you do it
plays it back the same thing overand over again. So the subconscious mind
is like the habit mind. Thelatest evolution of the brain is right behind

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your forehead of a lobe of braintissue called the prefrontal cortex, and with
that was the development of the consciousmind. I say, well, what's
the difference. Well, as Isaid, the subconscious mind's a habit mind
learns behavior stimulus response, stimulus response, and that's how you know it's life
is managed. But when you getto the conscious mind, something's totally different.

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And the idea is that it canthink. Number one, it's not
just stimulus response. I can think. And number two, it can see
into the future or look into thepast. It can review the past or
can look into the future. AndI say, well, why is this
relevant? Because the conscious mind.Here's the difference. The conscious mind is
a creative mind because I can say, well, what do you want to
do on Monday? And it's notMonday yet, you obviously are creating something

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for Monday. So it's creative,and I go, yes. And here's
the interesting part about it. It'sthe mind that's also connected to you as
a personal identity, the connection toyour spirituality, your source, who you
are, is playing through this mind. So it's you and it's creative.
So I say, oh cool.So I say, the conscious mind has

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your wishes and desires in it.So if I say what do you want
out of your life, you're lookingsaying in the future, I want X.
You're creating an idea. So wishes, desires, aspirations. Conscious mind
habits subconscious mind. Okay. Andthen I say, okay. Here's the
difference. The subconscious mind learns ina different way than the conscious mind.

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The conscious mind, because it's creative, can learn from you, as we
mentioned, reading a book, goingto a lecture, watching a video,
just going aha, and the consciousmind can learn something. I go,
this is not the same as asubconscious I go, No. Subconscious is
a habit mind, and that meansthis, when you put in a habit,
you don't want it to change,especially if it's an important habit like

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walking. For example, if youlearn how to walk, you don't want
that to change. So the habitmind is resistant to change firstly, okay,
and it doesn't learn in the sameway. It's not creative. It
has to learn in a different way. So here's the issue. We now
recognize that the subconscious mind in thefirst seven years of life is downloading life

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experiences straight into the subconscious. Inother words, the conscious mind of a
child's not really fully engaged until aroundage seven, when the brain develops another
higher level of function. Below ageseven, the brain activity child's mainly in
a wavelength called data, which isbelow consciousness. It's imagination in fact,
and that's why kids, especially youknow, two to seven, can mix

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the real world in the imaginary worldbecause their brain operating in data is that
zone. But that zone is alsohypnosis. And you say, why should
the brain be a hypnosis And theanswer simply this, there's so much you
can program with genes and culture.You can't program with genes. It changes

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all the time, so there's nogenes for how to behave. And yet
you when you're born into a family, the first thing you've got to learn
is how to be a functional memberof the family, and then a functional
member of the community. And Isay, well, how many rules is
that? And all of a suddenyou say, well, it's thousands of
rules, and I go, okay, teach a two year old here,
sit down, I got to teachyou a few thousands. We'll hear about

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how to be a functional member ofthe family. It's like, well,
that's not going to work, butit works. For this reason, Nature
designed the brain to be in arecord mode for seven years, recording what
the behavior of the mother, thefather, the family, the community.
Why it's observing behavior and learning howthe interactions occur. How a parent talks
to a child is different than howthey talk to each other, which is

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different than how they talk to theneighbor, which is even different than how
they talk to a policeman. It'slike, wow, the child learns all
these but it doesn't learn them byreading or anything. It learns them by
just recording seven years of recording.And that's why the first seven years is
download. Then consciousness begins, andthen consciousness can use the data to make

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a life from it. But firstyou have to put the data in.
So I say, well, therelevance then, is the data that went
into a subconscious mind in the firstseven years. A is other people's behavior
because you were recording other people.So that's a b. You weren't conscious
of the recording because your conscious brainwasn't working anyway at that point, so

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you didn't see this download occurring.Okay, so it wasn't filtered. It
was just whatever you saw was thedownload. And most importantly, it was
a period where the brain was indata, which is called hypnosis. Okay,
after seven the conscious brain ticks in. The subconscious is no longer working

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on hypnosis at this point. Okay, now it's working on life experiences of
life, what you're doing. Okay, it changes the direction of it.
But the relevance is this The subconsciouslearned in the first seven years through process
called hypnosis, but after seven yearsit learns in a different way, and
what it learns by is repetition habit. That's what's called the habit mind.

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So if you want to change aprogram after your age seven, you have
to make a habit like an exercise, and you got to repeat that habit,
just like learning how to drive acar or learning how to walk,
you had to learn. You hadto do it every day, repeat it,
repeat it till you get it down. Or the ABC's how many times
should you start A and never couldfinish until you learn the next couple of

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letters, and then you can progress, progress until you can get to Z.
And now guess what, Once youlearned it, you don't have to
do it again. So the natureof repetition is after seven. Okay.
So I say, well, youwant to change your subconscious mind? How
do most people try to do it? First big mistake is they attempt to
talk to themselves. It's like,oh, you're talking to oh, Bruce,

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don't eat that donut. You knowit's really bad, it's really you
know, do that. So I'mtalking to myself, don'ate my donut there?
And then ten minutes later I'm saying, there a doughnut in my hand,
going, oh, you know,you didn't listen to me. What's
going on here? You know,what the heck are you doing with a
donut? And then I go here'sthe point. The subconscious mind is a

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recording device that is recording these habits. It's a machine. There's nobody in
there. Point. If you're talkingto yourself, then presumably somebody is listening
to you. You say, well, who's listening? You say, subconscious
is listening. I go, no, no, no. You see,
subconscious is a machine. There's nobodyin there. So if you want to
change the recording on a disc,you can put the disc into the machine

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and you can talk to the machine. All you want is never going to
change anything. And that's the mostfrustrating thing because we can see what we
want to change. We know whatwe want to change, we tell ourselves,
and yet it doesn't work. AndI say why subconscious mind doesn't learn
that way? It learns to Athrough a hypnosis or B through repetition.
And I'm going to add a thirdone right now because it's really important.

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There's a whole new field and thisis the exciting one called energy psychology.
And energy psychology is our modalities ofchanging subconscious programs that rely on super learning
processes. And you say super learning, I go, yeah, Maybe seeing
somebody read a book by moving theirfinger down the page. As fast as
they move the finger down, theyread every word on the page, and

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they flip through a book and theycan read a book in minutes. That's
an expression of super learning. Isay, what's the point. I say,
with some of these modalities, youcan change a belief. You had
your whole life in about ten orfifteen minutes. Wow, this is pretty
exciting. I go, yeah,we've had problems changing beliefs from before for

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what reason. Way, because wethought that the conscious mind subconscious mind were
one and the same. So theconscious mind became aware of something, of
course the subconscious mind should have followedalong. Okay, first mistake, No,
they're two separate minds. Second,we believe that, well, one
mind can talk to the other mind. I go, okay, false,
because the talker in the conscious mindis trying to talk to the subconscious when

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it's just a machine. Nobody's inthere. So that's why the failure of
that. Okay. And then whatwe have to recognize this in the subconscious
mind learns in different ways, asI said, hypnosis, repetition, and
now energy psychology. So I sayyou want to activate change, Well,
there are three fundamental ways you cando it. Number one. In the

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old days, it was called subliminaltapes. Maybe they're called subliminal CDs.
Now. Basically, you put earphoneson as you're going to bed, and
you have a tape that gives arelaxation exercise followed by a belief statement.
You want to download about your life. And what's interesting is you go to
sleep, and as you're going froma wake to sleep, you pass through

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data. The function of the brainof hypnosis. Your conscious mind doesn't hear
what the tape is playing. Thesubconscious is hearing what the tape is playing.
So as you have the earphones downat night and as you're starting to
go off the sleep and the consciousmind checks out, the subconscious mind is
now hearing a new program repeatedly putin. So it's making a new program

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bypassing consciousness. So that's one way. Number two, as I said,
repetition, Well, if you wantto do something different, then you have
to let just repeat the process.And at first it's a struggle why because
you're trying to create something against anold habit. But the idea is repetition
of a new habit creates the newhabit. You know, I can remember
mold enough. Remember before there wereseatbelts in the car, and nobody ever

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drove a seatbelts. Then all ofa sudden there was a law you have
to put a seatbelt on. Andit's like every time I put the belt
in, oh my god, Ihate the stupid bellon and I would fuss
over it all the time. Andat some point of doing that for how
long, I don't know how longit was, then all of a sudden,
it was like it was so automaticthat I get in the car.
I don't even have a discussion inmy head. I automatically put the seatbelt

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down before I can drive the car, because it's a now a habit.
Okay, so habits start out begrudgingly, but when you repeat them, you're
making a new recording, and thatrecording will override the old recording. So
that's a second way of changing it. And then I say, the energy
psychology modalities, and they're very interestingbecause at least you know a couple of

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the ones that I know have profoundeffects on the brain that you can you
can put a person, you wiretheir head with the EEG to read their
brain activity, and they go throughone of what they're called balances or whatever
you know process to make a beliefchange. You can put the wires on
the person's head. And a friendof mine does as a neuroscientist, and

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he has people in the audience andsomebody wants to have a change of belief,
they bring them up to the front. He puts on the wires and
he has projected above the person onthe screen the live EEG of the brain.
And what's very interesting about it isthe person goes through a belief change
process and the audience can see thechange occur in the EEG while it's happening,

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like, oh my god, lookit happened, even before the individual
on the stage acknowledges that the audiencecould see when the change occurred. So
basically it sounds like new age woowoo, but we now can record these
changes that occur uh, and they'revery profound. And for me, I've

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always lived by this old saying necessityis the mother of invention. And interestingly,
we're stage of our evolution where necessitysays we must change our beliefs fast.
And that new invention is energy psychology. So I'm unclear exactly what is

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it like affirmations and things or isit something new? So it's a little
deeper than that. It usually involvessome processing to engage the super learning process.
I know one very well because foryears, I mean I engaged the
process in my own life, andit wasn't for that, I wouldn't have
been able to write that book tenyears ago because I had so much trouble

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with a belief system that you know, I was a conventional research scientist and
you know your you're standing in thecommunity is based on how others view you
in the community, and my subconsciousmind how to acknowledge. I said,
you know, if you write thisbook, you're going to alienate all those
people that validate you as a researcher. And so my subconscious mind kept sabotaging

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writing the book because I saw thatthis would this would be problem. And
so I did a belief check andsure enough, that's what the I found
that the belief was protecting me fromlosing my scientific status. Uh, And
I had to put in a newbelief. And that's the first time,
one of the first times I usedthis process called psycha, and that we

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wrote a new belief about writing thebook and getting it done no problem and
all that, and within the shortesttime, within two or three months after
that, the book was done.So it was removing a block that was
unconsciously trying to protect me by saying, if you do this, this is
bad. And I had to getthat block out, and so I tried

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it and it was like a tenminute process or something like that. It
was totally amazing. But the ideaabout it was that how does this one
work? Well, I know becausethere's a you get into a posture and
it's called the whole brain posture,and you cross your arms and your legs.
And it's why it's important is becausefrom before age seven, when all

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that learning that the child is downloading, how quickly they can download all kinds
of stuff. Like a three yearold in a family that has three different
languages running in the family, athree year old will pick out and learn
all three languages as independent languages.And I say, yeah, But after
a child is let's say eight ornine, you try and teach one to
language, and all of a suddenyou're up against the wall and they say,

(01:33:02):
well, how the three year oldto it? And that eight or
nine year old couldn't do it?And I say, before age seven,
our brains left and right hemispheres workin harmony with each other. After age
seven, there's a wave cycle thatduring sometimes during the day, you're more
in the left brain, and thensometimes during the day you're more in the

(01:33:24):
right brain, and then it goesback to the left brains like a wave
going sometimes left, sometimes right,left, right, left right, And
I say, well, this isprofoundly important because each hemisphere of the brain
is associated with different characteristics. Solet's say my left brain is logical and
my right brain is emotional. AndI say, well, what's significant.

(01:33:45):
I said, well, sometimes duringthe day I'm operating from my left brain.
I'm more logical about everything I do, and sometimes during the day emotional
things affect me much more than logicalthings. And I say, well,
what's the issue. I said,super learning or that learning when the child
before was before seven was associated whenboth hemispheres working at the same time as

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adults, we have trouble. Andthe reason is this because the system is
designed to go through the wave ofleft, right, left and right.
And if you want to put ina new learning program, it turns out
if you can synchronize the brain sothat both hemispheres are firing at the same
time, that logic and emotion arenow integrated into the program, you can

(01:34:29):
rapidly download a new program. Somany of the exercises involve or the modalities
involved similar kinds of exercise. There'ssomething to do to engage this process and
This is very exciting because, asI said, it's a necessity for us
in this stage of our revolution.We're facing some very serious civilization problems right
now, and we have to empowerourselves. And as we talked about,

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there's two levels of empowerment right now. Number one epigenetics is, yeah,
you're in control of this and ifyou understand it, you can manifested.
And that collectively, our behavior asa culture is undermining civilization, that we're
going extinct. And it's not athousand years from now, you know,
they're they're talking about like civilization collapsingwithin twenty years. This is reality.

(01:35:18):
And the reason why is our behavior, human behavior is undermining the web of
life and humanity itself. And sowe're in need of what a rapid MAKEO,
a rapid read THO, a rapidchange this program and get out of
the belief that life is a strugglefor survival and get out of this belief

(01:35:38):
that you're a victim of your biologyand re empower yourselves. And then when
we do that, it doesn't changethe world. And I just love because
one of my books are called theHoneymoon Effect, and it basically says,
look, our lives may really justbe a struggle all the way up and
to a point. We meet thisone person. We meet this one person

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and we fall in love, andthen like the next day, it's like
heaven on earth. You know,there's period called the Heymoo fact where God
is so beautiful life and so great. I go. You know, it
was a struggle until the night beforeand the next day, all of a
sudden, it starts to become heavenon earth. I say, what's that
all about? And here's what theanswer is. As I said, ninety

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five percent of our life is comingfrom the subconscious programs. And the reason
for that is because our conscious mindis thinking ninety five percent of the day,
and because it's thinking, it's notpaying attention. When it's not paying
attention, you don't stop whatever you'redoing, driving the car, walking,
whatever you're doing. You continue doingit. But now it's not controlled by

(01:36:44):
the conscious, it's controlled by thesubconscious program it's default and I go.
So it turns out ninety five percentof the day we're thinking, So ninety
five percent of the day we're playingsubconscious programs. Yes, they came from
other people, so they're not ourbeliefs and wishes and desires, and we're
manifesting ninety five percent of a day, a life that we've been programmed to
live, what we can do andwhat we can do, et cetera.

(01:37:08):
And then I say, so,what happened when you fell in love?
And this is the fun part aboutthe movie The Matrix, which is,
as I mentioned, it's catalog ofscience fiction, but for me it's a
documentary. Yes, we've been programmedfor seven years of our life. And
they talk about taking a red pilland getting out of the program. I
said, you know what, wenow know that falling in love is the

(01:37:30):
red till we get out of thesubconscious programming for a reason, and the
reason simple. When you have someoneyou find after you're look in your whole
life, you have this one personin front of your face, the one
you love. You don't let yourmind wander, You keep your mind present,
mindful. They go, why isthat relevant? Well, our life
up until that moment was being runonly five percent by mindful and ninety five

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percent by subconscious. And then afterfall in love, that moment fall in
love if switches around, and nowyour life is run ninety percent or more
from the conscious mind and less thanten percent from a subconscious And I say,
we'll watch the relevance of that.And I go up to the moment
you fell in love. Your lifewas the readout print out of a program

(01:38:14):
that you got. The moment youfell in love was taking the red pilm.
Why you stopped playing the program becauseyou didn't default of the subconscious because
you were mindful. And I said, well, what was the consequence of
being mindful without playing the program?I said, the honeymoon heaven on Earth.
I go, well, wait aminute, so the heaven on Earth

(01:38:35):
is a reality, except when youplay the program. I go yeah.
And so when people change the program, we can take this what looks like
hell on Earth and everyone could livehoneymoon on Earth. It's the same Earth.
It's just an attitude change. Sothis is why we're so moving toward
an evolutionary upheaval, and it's anevolution of people, not in biology,

(01:39:00):
in genetics, but in consciousness.It just says we have to learn,
we can get out of the program. We can create new programs and using
the subliminal tapes, using the repetitionhabit thing, or using energy psychology.
These are all ways that you canrewrite any of the programs in your life

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that you got in the first sevenyears that are causing new problems. And
I'm going to keep talking for anothersecond, of all, because I came
up with something interesting about It's like, you say, well, wait,
what I got these programs? AndI say, well, what are the
programs? And you go, wait, Actually, the program started when you
were in the last trimester of pregnancyand continue through the first seven years.

(01:39:45):
So I say, oh, youhad a lot of programming before you were
born. You got programming your firstyear, tremendous quantity second year, and
I just say, hey, Nicole, tell me what thing you learned when
you were one year old? What'sthe program that you learn You go,
I have no idea. The programwas one year? Why? Well,
the conscious mind wasn't even really workinguntil around seven at some point. I

(01:40:06):
mean, it has memories, butit's not conscious memories much. I will
talk about that, but why isit relevant? Because I say, well,
what are the programs that you gotin your subconscious mind that could be
sabotaging your life? They say,well, I don't really know, because
I wasn't conscious when I got theprograms, and then I go, okay,

(01:40:26):
now to make life easy again.Our lives are by definition ninety five
percent coming from the subconscious, Soby definition, your life is essentially a
print out of your subconscious programs.I said, well does that mean?
I said, well, Look,anything you like that comes easily into your
life comes there because you have aprogram that allows them to be there.

(01:40:49):
In contrast, and this is theone. Anything you work hard at,
anything you struggle over, anything youput effort into, anything you sweat over,
why are you working so hard?The answer? And neviably you have
a program that doesn't support that conclusion. And I said, well then why
is this? You know, what'sthe importance of that? I understand?

(01:41:09):
I said, good, you don'tneed a lot of Now, let's just
all you have to do is lookat is the life and say what part
isn't working, and then just lookfor the program that part and change that
part. You don't have to goback and say who did what to make
the program? Who when and howdid it happen? That just makes it
replay again. That just irritated that. That's why you got to have so

(01:41:29):
much cleanex When you go to thestrength there you know. It's like,
now is this There's an old sayingdon't kill the messager over the message.
The point is simply this, theprogram in your mind is the message.
How you got the message, that'stotally irrelevant. You're living with a message.
So basically, deal with a message. And the idea is, then
don't go backwards in your life.Look at where you are now and make

(01:41:54):
a list and understanding of what arethe things that don't come easily to you
that you want? And I saywow, And then I would check a
belief about having those things because therealmost inevitably will be a belief that will
not support it. And you weresabotaging yourself ninety five percent of the day
when those subconscious beliefs are actually plain. Okay, I think I ran that

(01:42:15):
spiel out in Nicoll, but I'djust like to let you go so you
can cramis much in there. Butyou had something, you said, something
that obviously needs to be highlighted andunderscored. So we have to get this,
get out of this survival of victimprogramming now to avoid a collapse of

(01:42:36):
humanity in about twenty years. Isthat what I heard you say? Absolutely,
we now know that, and Iknow the estimates have been longer than
reality. That the scientists are findingthat the things they were predicting are happening
faster than their original predictions. Andone of them, for example, is

(01:42:57):
how about this no saltwater fish inthe ocean twenty forty eight. I go
that. Luck. Now, youknow, it's like, listen, tell
your grandchildren there used to be fishin the ocean at one point. No,
because we're overfishing and destroying the breedinggrounds and polluting the water and all
that. It's like it's on itsway out. That half the wildlife that

(01:43:18):
was on this planet in nineteen seventydoesn't exist anymore. We lost half the
animals on this planet since nineteen seventyhalf it's actually fifty two percent. And
yeah, all of this why itturns out human behavior. We're undermining ecosystems,
we're pillaging the planet. We're takingall the resources and polluting and destroying,

(01:43:43):
and we think like, oh,we have no effect on it.
It's like, no, we arecausing. And this is the fact of
science. So I'm going to saythis is the fact of science, and
that is this we are into whatis called the sixth mass extinction of life
on this planet. Lifetimes in thehistory of this planet, life was thriving
and then some catastrophic thing happened andfifty to eighty or percent of all the

(01:44:08):
wildlife on the planet disappeared, justyou know, gone. And they attribute
things like maybe asteroids hitting or cometshitting the Earth and upsetting the environment,
or massive geological activity volcanoes, earthquakes, and stuff like that, and they
say, when we're looking at theloss of species today, it is greater

(01:44:30):
and faster than the loss of speciesin the previous mass extinction. And we're
at a level now where it's nowmass extinction approaching because the organisms are getting
lost. As I said, fiftytwo percent of the animals are gone.
And so all of a sudden,it really says, is that we are
in a process called the six massextinction of life. And yet science,

(01:44:55):
as I said, hasn't knowsed whatthe cause is. It's human behavior,
And all of a sudden it says, well, if you want to stop
the sixth mass extinction, then wemust stop human behavior the way it's working,
because it's destructive of not just thehumans, but of the planet in
which we live. And we're destroyingourselves and the planet. So we see

(01:45:16):
all these crises, and to me, this is very important. You look
at the crisis. There's an economiccrisis, you know, we have a
healthcare crisis. We have government criseshere, climate change crisis here, and
you start to make a list ofthem and you go wow, and I
go you see what the illusion isthat these are all separate things, and
in fact there's no They're all connectedto one thing, and that is us,

(01:45:42):
and that's connected to the sixth massextinction. So what are we seeing.
We're seeing things like let's say,a monetary crisis or a fuel crisis,
or you know, food crisis,which is happening now. And I
say, well, what happens whenyou get these crisis The answer is this,
you cannot continue the way you havebeen doing things because it won't work

(01:46:02):
that way anymore. You hit awall, you must change. Ah.
The word change that means we changethe way we live in order to survive.
That by definition means we're changing civilizationsbecause the way we have been living
in the cultural beliefs of this civilizationare responsible for this collapse. And so

(01:46:25):
when you look at the world andyou see all those bad headlines and everybody
going, oh my god, it'sso scary, and I go, no,
no, you don't get it.This is good news. It's good
news. For the reason is this, the system has to break down to
build a new system. We can'tfix this old one because that's the one
that caused the problems. The moreyou try and fix it, the more
you keep the problems going. Sowhile people are looking in fear, I

(01:46:49):
really want to say, wait aminute, you're focusing your efforts and energy
on the wrong side. You shouldbe focusing your efforts and energy on the
side of where's the change? Wheredo we go from here? How is
this going to be? And I'mgoing to tell you what. All the
people that I started to know beingmyself one of them stepping outside of the
box and living in a different wayand found that there's a much kinder and

(01:47:11):
gentler planet outside of the conventional worldif you get out of the programming.
And the reason why this is importantis because the evolution means that the system
is going to collapse, and it'srequired because it doesn't. Extinction is right
in front of you right now.So when you look at it, if
you look at it in fear.As I saying, this is the Remember

(01:47:33):
the picture in your mind makes yourhealth. Part of the illnesses of this
planet is to be in fear ofthese changes because the picture of fear means
threat, and the threat changes thechemistry of your body and a protection,
and that will actually shut down yourgrowth and your immune system. In fact,
that's one of the biggest cause ofproblems in today's world, the fear.

(01:47:54):
So if you look at this crisisas fear, you're not helping yourself
for the planet if you think aboutit, I look at the crisis as
good, where there are other waysto solve this thing. There's another way
to do life better than this thingand the way we've been living and h
and it's changing. So when youlook at the world and you see all

(01:48:15):
the upheaval, is yeah, becausewe're in a transition, stay from an
old type of civilization, the onewe're in scientific materialism based on matter,
and moving into a more holistic civilizationwhere energy, which includes spirit is brought
back into the equation because we've leftthat out of the picture. So we're

(01:48:36):
moving into a new civilization right now. And that's why when I got on
you know, when we started acall today and I mentioned cultural Creatives is
because the people that are listening toyour show and the call, which is
very important this show is saying,look, there is life outside the box.
There are other ways of living,and the sooner you learn it,

(01:48:56):
the more prosperous your life will be. Because if you resist the learning,
it's going to hurt, because thingsare not happy if you resist it.
So my message is, okay,we can change our way. Look at
the world. Start to recognize thatwhat do you want from life versus what
the program said you would be?And this is a time of great flux

(01:49:18):
and change and the opportunity to rewritethe programs, create the new world and
move out of this collapsing one intoa civilization that we can drive into.
That's what's in front of us,and that's really what we have been doing.
But you're saying we need to reallybring it now. Well, yeah,

(01:49:38):
there's talk, and then we gotto do the action for then.
And I know that from my ownself. You know, Look, when
that biology belief came in, Ihad and I understood the nature of Oh
my god, how my perceptions andbeliefs and attitudes control my life. I
got so excited. I want togo out and tell everybody because I thought,
look, tomorrow, the world willchange when everybody knows this. And
I'd get whatever I could. Peopleget together and I give a lecture.

(01:50:00):
I say, if you understand whatI'm talking about, you can have the
most wonderful life on this planet.And then that audience in those early days,
they'd look at me and cock theirheads and go, you know,
lived in your life doesn't look sogood for a guy says you know this
stuff. And that was the bigwake up call it because I almost said,
well, do as I say,not as I do. And then
I realized, oh my god,here you've got this great secret of life.

(01:50:24):
You want to tell everybody else aboutit. You're not doing it.
I realized, Yeah, here's thedifference. You can create all that knowledge
in your conscious mind, but ifyou don't apply it in your behavior,
and you don't apply it in yourlife, then it's like information up on
the top of a trivia game someday, but you haven't done anything. And
that's what I had to do,is like wait, and now that I

(01:50:45):
know how it works, I nowhave to manifest the life using these principles
and God, I have to tellyou. I mean, look, my
last book was called the Honeymoon Effect. Why. Well, when you start
to see Earth as heaven where youcame to create, it changes everything about
the way we live on this planet. Well always smokes the time has this.

(01:51:10):
It's by us. It's a perfectpause. Have an honors. It's
a lot better than destruction of totalhumanity. Yeah, there's a good destination
and joy will be there and happinessand love and community sharing. I see
it because I've been around the worldand I've seen people moving in that direction
and been in communities where things likethat are going on. It's like,

(01:51:33):
oh my god. Sometimes we thinkthis is never going to happen. And
what we don't realize, Nicole,is that there are so many groups out
there, so many shows such asyour own, providing this new information,
and we don't see the other ones. And therefore we look and say,
yeah, I guess we're the onlyones here. And it turns out no,

(01:51:54):
we have large numbers of us allover the planet, but they're not
connected yet. But one you know, it could be overnight, just like
a Berlin wall boom, they alldecide to connect and the world will change.
The next day, just like whathappened in the Berlin Walk coming down.
That's a beautiful vision, and weneed people like you out there waking

(01:52:14):
people up and shredding these new pathsand so we can see the vision and
hold it together. It's very important. Do you know we didn't really get
to the forty pages and you mentionedyou mentioned Fountain of Youth. I can't
believe it. We have to haveyou back. That would be that would
be wonderful. Fountain Views. That'sa good story because it's real. Okay,

(01:52:35):
I want to hear it. Sowe've got it. That's good.
Now that means a future invitation.I'm ready it does. That's exactly what
it means. So oh my gosh, there's a show right behind us who
we've got about to sixty seconds tothe top here. So doctor breuslichon,
how do they get your updated Biologyof the whole book? Amazon bookstores,

(01:52:59):
everywhere, my website, which issimple Bruce Lipton dot com. Most any
bookstore should have it, and Ireally hope people take a look at it
because it's a book of knowledge ofself and knowledge is power. Therefore,
biology belief is knowledge of self,empowerment and that's what it really is,

(01:53:20):
a tool knowledge to change your life. Tuda. Well, there you go.
I will be emailing your office todaywith potentially times Because of course we've
left on a big cliffhanger. Wewon't want to hear about the Fountain of
Youth and all the other good stuff, so we will talk to you soon,

(01:53:41):
I hope. So thank you somuch, Nicole, Thanks so much
for being here. Always a pleasure. Doctor Bruce Litten, author Biology of
Belief, and the new tenth anniversaryedition with those mysterious extra pages is now
out, so look that up.We'll post it up on our site as
well, soul dot com. Andwe're back with more right after this.

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This is Nicole Whitney, News forthe Soul, life changing talk Radio from
the uplifting to the unexplained. James, the great honor to have you on
the show tonight. Welcome to you, fetch with that. Thank you.
Yes, this is Ori Hirie.It's Nicole Whitney calling News for the Soul.
Welcome to News for the Soul ofRobert Allen. Thank you, Nicole.
It's great to be here with youtonight. Why are you here.

(01:54:25):
We're talking to Carolyn Mace about SacredContracts, one of her many best selling
books. Welcome to the show,Great Breton, Well, good evening,
Nicole. It's certainly a pleasure hereyour voice, and a pleasure to be
here tonight. Welcome to the show, Stuart Wild, Thank you very much,
John Keiko, Welcome to News forthe Soul. Hey, how are
you next up? Doctor David Marhaus. I'm so glad that you called me

(01:54:50):
because you are doing such an importanttask, important work, because you are
spreading a very positive message. Iwas really moved about last week's show because
we made a commitment to a worldwideevent to try to change consciousness. I'm
feeling enormous energy around this show.It's just enormous, enormous. I really

(01:55:14):
have to hand it to you,Nicole. You have created sort of a
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Suits for the Soul. I meanthat was weird. I don't think about
art Bell every day. Well,wait, I passed at ten thirty in
the morning, so you don't everknow we popped in here. Well then

(01:56:01):
he wasn't alive then, so youknow, here's our He punched in on
the chat room. And the dayhe died, I said, well that
doesn't really that doesn't really mean thathe was really alive. You know,
I think that all the people outthere who would find a way to Oh,
he'll do it. He come back, he'll do it. He'll find

(01:56:24):
a way. He says, let'sgo get the mail. And he had
bought him a grand damn transam fourhundred horsepower okay for speed when it was
brand new, And we went andgot the mail at one hundred and forty
two miles an hour, okay.And that was that. Joy Art was

(01:56:48):
about Art Art's ability to openly,consciously explore realities based on the credibility of
the research he had done on theperson that's on the air. This is
how he was. There was nocasualness about it. He was ready,
and he was worried. He wasworried about this drought he had seen and

(01:57:09):
that people were going through. Andhe went on the radio and he decided,
he decided that he was going totry to use the power of prayer
because it had been something we hadtalked about, and it's something we had
talked about, and you know,what were those possibilities Because we would talk
about it, he'd hear showed thathe thought was important. And there was
me, there was to me andanother two other people that he would talk

(01:57:32):
to about it. And so hedecided he was going to get all of
the coast to coast people. There'sprobably fifteen million people that would listen to
the show, so thirteen million peoplethat would listen to the show. And
so Art set up prayer. Heset up a prayer for rain and it
started raining the next day I remember, and it rained like for five or

(01:57:55):
six days. Okay, that wasmy favorite one because all of a sudden
I was calling him Art, Godand and and but he had he had
nowhere to go. Nicole, Iremember that consciousness, that experiment with the
Joe, And it was interesting howhe explored that afterwards because he came afraid

(01:58:17):
that was it scared the crap outof him. I know, it scared
the crap out of him. Ihad to listen to it for like a
week, you know, and youknow he has to come off his high
Horse. I was in such painin that brain surgery thing in ninety seven,
Nicole, you know that was like, oh my God, when I

(01:58:39):
blew my brain out and subdued himwith Tomas and I was crushing. Art
got people to pray for me,and I never knew this until later.
I never knew this till later.But at about two o'clock one morning,
or was like three o'clock one morning, and when I couldn't take it anymore,
the room clears is in the hospitalthere, room cleared. There was

(01:59:00):
no noise or any of that.And knowing that, I thought I was
going to die from it, thebrain surgery, because you'd have to do
open our surgery and brain surgery atthe same time, and there was no
way I could make it through it. So Hart got people to pray,
and I know the moments because Icould organize my line, I I could

(01:59:20):
get away from the pain and Icould organize my life. And that went
on for like three or four hoursbefore it all came back. The Bain
came back, and it was atthe exact same time that Art had gone
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