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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Hello everyone, My name is Spencer Walsh. Welcome to today's show.
We have a good, a great and important show for
you as always, but the news, as per usual, is
not very good. The Supreme Court handing Donald Trump unprecedented
new power, giving him less check from the judiciary than

(00:34):
any president has ever had before, taking away the power
of the Court to stop nationwide injunctions towards Trump's illegal policies,
and giving twenty eight states the power in thirty days
to end the constitutional productions of the Fourteenth Amendment ending

(00:55):
birthright citizenship, all thanks to a Trump executive order that
will take effect in twenty eight days. What does the
Supreme Court say about the constitutionality of that order, Well,
they're just gonna punt it over to October and see
what happens there.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
No big deal.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
But again, in the meantime, Republican States getting full full
leeway to go ahead with the end of birthright citizenship.
Will give you all of the details on that. Also,
horrific news coming out of Ise where Israeli soldiers have
admitted what Palaesinan journalists have been saying for months now

(01:33):
that Israeli soldiers and American mercenaries the gods the Humanitarian
Foundation are intentionally and deliberately shooting harmless, desperate, starving, palicating
AIDS seekers. Also, we have the very latest for you
on that juicy Zoramamdani establish meltdown. It is coming thick
and fast. That is what we have for you on

(01:56):
today's Newsflash. And also gonna get into why you know,
despite but is clearly coming. Why I think Mom Donnie
is going to be the best positioned out of any
left wing candidate in my lifetime to handle all the incoming.
As usual, checkout Spencer Walsh YouTube channel. The Spencer Walsh
YouTube channel for all of the latest. In terms of

(02:17):
the YouTube videos, every YouTube video is a clip from
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want a video version of the podcast is essentially what
I'm trying to say is check out the Spencer Walsh
YouTube channel. All the stories are gonna be up there
by tomorrow morning, so yeah, go check that out. But

(02:39):
in the meantime, here is your news Flash episode for
this Friday, June twenty seventh, Ladies and gentlemen, the Supreme
Court of the United States has continued to hand Donald
Trump more power to rewrite the constitution to really take
our country in kind of stunning new directions than we
ever thought possible. Well maybe some people were appropriately alarmed,

(03:03):
but it really has been insane to watch. So essentially
what has happened here is the as you can see
on the top of here from the New York Times,
and a major victory for President Trump. The court restricted
the ability of federal judges to block his executive orders.
The decision may reshape citizenship in the US and the
way it's granted, even temporarily. And so essentially they said,

(03:25):
you know, local or kind of regional courts can't go
and supersede everyone and block a executive order across the
entire country. But the thing is the order they were
talking about, the order that they made this ruling on,
which was challenged in and blocked and you know, kind
of halted in a lot of ways in many states,

(03:46):
but was approved by many Republican states, was the order
to block birthright citizenships. So in thirty days, when the order,
the executive order, takes effect, there will be twenty eight
states where birthright citizenship is effectively banned. So it is
a really really really big win for Trump and a

(04:10):
huge loss, I would say, you know, for the constitution.
The Supreme Court limited the ability of federal judges to
temporarily pause Trump's executive orders, a major victory for the administration,
but the justices made no ruling on the constitutionality of
his move to end birthright citizenship and stopped his order
from taking effect for thirty days. The sixty three decision

(04:32):
was written by Justice Amy Coney Barrett. Another shout out thanks,
thanks there, Ruth Bader Ginsberg. You know she is the
one probably most responsible for everything that Amy Cony Barrett
does on this court. But it may dramatically reshape house
citizenship is granted, even temporarily. The ruling means that the

(04:52):
practice of giving citizenship automatically to US born children of
undocumented immigrants in some temporary residents and visitors would end.
In the twenty eight states that have not challenge you order.
So you can challenge your order essentially as a state,
I think its attorney general can come down and challenge order.
A lot of Republican states out there, they're not challenging
his order. They are standing in lockstep behind Trump as

(05:14):
he blatantly challenges. I thinks, you know, I may may
make a fool myself here, but I believe it's the
fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution that was passed in the
wake of slavery to ensure that, you know, citizenship was
not granted on the basis of race or anything else.
But the fact is, if you're born here, you get
to become a citizen. It's one of the things that

(05:37):
has made this country so vibrant and so successful. I
would argue for many, many years since it was since
his policy was put in place. The Court's decision appeared
to up end the ability of a single federal judge
to freeze policies across the country, a powerful tool that's
been used to block policies from Democratic and Republican administrations.
The majority offered a different path to challenging mister Trump's

(05:59):
order on a nationwide basis class action lawsuits. Trump prais
the ruling, calling it a giant win for him any
news conference at the White House. Our country should be
very proud of the Supreme Court today, he says. But
you know, it isn't kind of interesting because we have
seen where really an incredible amount of judicial power.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Accrue over the past.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Five or so years and maybe even longer, with the
amount of federal judges that have been put in really
on both sides, having a lot of power to shape
and block policy. So this could be kind of, you know,
funnily enough, it could be helpful for a Democratic president
down the road who wants to do big changes, but
you know, the courts will only be able to block
it state by state. It's also going to increase the

(06:43):
kind of fracturedness in our government enforcement where more laws
are going to change state by state by state. And
you know, if you want to get birthright citizenship, you're
just gonna have to go to a blue state. Same way,
for example, if you want to get an abortion, you're
going to have to go to a blue state. In
a blistering descent, Justice Sonia Sotomayora called the majority decision

(07:04):
a travesty for the rule of law progress of Democrats.
Legal advocates and civil and immigrant rights groups called it
a major blow to alongsidele constitutional law, and said it
would create a dangerous pathwork of rights across the nation
and that is very you know, it really does. It
can remind me of the Dobs case, where so much
of this stuff was fragmented based on the state, and

(07:26):
it creates essentially a really divisive dual nation system almost
where you have two sets of laws, one that's more open,
more progressive, more inclusive in the Blue states, and one
where you have you know, constitutional amendments and settled constitutional
law being challenged on the daily basis by this coalition
of you know, activist Supreme Court judges on the conservative side,

(07:49):
and you have attorney generals who are literally partisan forces
in all of these different stays all across the country.
The Majority stress that it was not addressing the merits
of Trump's attempt to automatic citizenship for babies born on
US soil. Challenges to the citizenship order are pending in
appeals courts, and the Adminstration has told the Supreme Court
that it would seek review before the justices should should

(08:12):
it lose. That sentence doesn't make any sense there. We
caught a New York Times typo. But there is no
pending case on the merits of mister Trump's executive order
at the Supreme Court. It is likely, but hardly certain, then,
that the Court will decide the issue in the term
that starts in October. But hardly certain that then that

(08:34):
the Court will decide the issue and the term that
starts in October, as Attorney General Pambonni repeatedly promised in
Trump's news conference, So that's when we get the real
question on birthright citizenship and the constitutional amendment. But for now,
it's going to create this kind of patchwork system across
all these different states where you have, you know, maybe
some people being able to have this birthright citizenship, some

(08:56):
people not, and maybe you see a big flush of
a peace people trying to move towards blue states in
order to accrue this or benefit from this constitutional right
that has been in the Constitution for quite a long time.
And it's going to be very interesting to see in
October when the Supreme Court rules on the merits of
the birthright citizenship proposal for everyone for the nation in

(09:19):
this October term as they're supposed to be doing. Are
they going to really break with the president here, are
they going to precedent they're not presidents, or will they
side with President Trump and really overturn functionally a constitutional
amendment there the Supreme Court's opinion will lead to a
drastic production the Federal Court's ability to check the White

(09:40):
House on policies. That is the key, key thing here
on this situation. So you know, things can now only
be challenged by state or by region or by kind
of district court. They cannot be challenged nationally. That's going
to include things like halting the firing of civil servants,
defunding a foreign aid, and the relocation of transgender women
in federal prisons to men's housing.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
The case decided by the justices on Friday arose from
an executive or to sign by Trump on his first
day in the second term to reinterpret the principle known
as birthrights citizenship, which has been a part of the
Constitution for more than one hundred and fifty years. Again,
so much for Republicans caring about the Constitution. You know,
it is if they want to create more of a
kind of white eth no state. You know, the Constitution

(10:25):
means nothing to them. But you know, if you dare
question anything written in the Constitution, you know, you officially
hate America. It's it's determined. Don't even try and argue it.
You hate America, you hate George Washington, you know, and
all this all this ridiculous seness, the ability of federal
judges to polis goings for the whole country. Known as
a nationwide injunction is a controversial judicial tool. They've been
again used to block policies on both sides of the aisle.

(10:49):
And it really is you know, bottom line here with
the with the immigration, with the with the birthright citizenship,
it's going to again it's just like abortion. It's going
to create a patch work of laws and two different
sets of laws for two different parts of the country,
for Red America and for Blue America. But more broadly,
it is going to allow this White House and white Houses,

(11:11):
by the way, you know, possibly democratic white Houses in
the future to proceed with their policies a lot more unhindered.
You know, things are not going to be nationwide paused
via the courts. And that is going to allow President
Trump to operate with a lot free of her hand
as he continues to really push the boundaries of our
legal system in so many different ways. In other rulings

(11:33):
on Friday, the Court upheld the constitutionality of task force
that recommends which preventive care services health insurers must cover
under the Affordable Care Act, rejected a challenge to a
Texas law that seeks to limit minors access to online pornography,
and ordered public schools in Maryland to allow parents with
religious objections to withdraw their children from classes in which
books with LGBTQ themes are discussed. So more kind of

(11:57):
culture war stuff there from. And I think a big
part of, you know, LGBTQ acceptance in culture was these
kind of interactions and kind of normalizing and saying it's
not a thing to be scared of when it comes
to kids, and you know, everyone's going to get into
the groomer conversation, which I think is is pretty much

(12:17):
ninety nine point nine percent ridiculous, but it is a
big blow to kind of the LGBTQ normalization in society.
This comes, by the way, as Trump's approval rating is
trending downwards and his disapproved rating is climbing higher, and
a string of new polls conducted after President Trump's decision

(12:37):
to launch airstrikes against Iran shows that the public is
broadly opposed to the military action. A majority of Americans
disapproved of the bombing CNN srs Pole, and eighty four
percent of Americans, including seventy four percent of Republicans, worry
about the conflict escalating, it's a better early to access

(12:59):
the impact that it might have on Trump's approval rating,
but the wordors eisodes pull provides some early indications returning
the low's approval rating that his poll this pool has
found in the second term. So you get look at
the average year where forty four covered around forty four percent,
which is, as you can see here, the lowest in
the second term. But I think it's very interesting the
major tariffs announced the Liberation Day that led.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
To a whole kind of tear drop.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
You know, if we're talking about forty eight fifty, you're
hovering around that fifty percent mark, but now you're getting
closer to forty than you are to fifty as the
months grow grow towards the summer here. So it is
a it is a sign that the policies and the
really of the immense political capital that the Trump ministration

(13:44):
has burned on stuff like immigration and stuff like the tariffs.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
For sure, as he continues.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
And receives, by the way, a major win from the
screen court today, and his ability to go about his
policies largely unchecked by the judicial system, at least on
a national level. Ladies and gentlemen, we have some really
really important news to share with you, and it's it's

(14:14):
not something that we haven't known for quite a while,
but it is I guess, kind of remarkable that the
even the Israeli media now has caught up to it.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
And it is this right here.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
We have seen it, we have heard about it, and
now this is this is the headline in Haretz that
the IDF soldiers in these AID massacres. You know, they
are coming out and saying to Israeli media that they
have been ordered to shoot at Starvin Gosden's seeking Aid.
This is really some horrific, horrific stuff. It's a killing field,
one soldier said. Where I was stationed, between one and

(14:48):
five people were killed every day. They're treated like a
hostile force. No crowd control measures, no tear gas, just
live fire with everything imaginable, heavy machine guns, grenade launchers, mortars.
Then once the center opens, the shooting stops and they
know they can approach one form of communication. Our form
of communication, he says, is gunfire. We open fire early

(15:09):
in the morning if someone tries to get in line
a few hundred meters away, and sometimes we just charge
at them from close range, but there's no danger to
the forces, according to him. He says, I'm not aware
of a single instance of return fire. There's no enemy,
no weapons. He also said the activity in his area
is referred to as operations salted Fish in his area
of service, which is the name for the Israeli version

(15:32):
of the children's game red Light green Light, which is
against like the girl in a squid game, who you know,
the massive fake girl who turns around and goes red
Light green Light and then shoots the people. Is literally
that in real life. It is literally in how many
people you can you can only sickly imagine how many
audio soldiers were sitting around joking like, oh, it's like
the squid game. We just we just shoot them whenever

(15:53):
we want. I mean, these people are it is it is.
It is not even being bold or being edgy to
say that these soldiers don't view their fellow people that
are standing right across them from them that they're shooting at.
They don't view them as people. They view them as dogs.
They view them as animals, the people to be put down,
maybe even less than dogs.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Ya.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
You have told Haretz that the army does not allow
the public in Israel to or abroad to see footage
of what takes place around the food distribution sites. They
should tell you right there all you need to know.
But they're satisfied with the operation because again, this is
what they're trying to do. As we have said, and
the only reason I've said it is because I've been
actually following the palace and your journalists who have been

(16:36):
reporting it for weeks and weeks. Now is the strategy
here is to get them to a certain area, lure
them in with food, and use that. Oh, we're giving
them aid to keep the international community off the backs
of Israel. And then when Israel has all these people
in one area, they open fire and they kill these
striving people who are just searching for food. And then
this comes after they've completely delegitimized the United Nations in

(17:01):
a big way. Gaza doesn't interest anyone anymore, said a
reservist who completed another round of duty in the Northern
Strip this week. It's become a place with its own
set of rules. The loss of human life means nothing.
It's not even an unfortunate instant, like they used to say.
An officer served serving in the security detail of a
distribution center described the audief's approach as deeply flawed. Working

(17:25):
with a civilian population when your only means of interaction
is opening fire, that's problematic, to say the least. He
told her rets It's neither ethically nor morally acceptable for
people to have to reach or fail to reach a
humanitarian zone under tank fire, snipers, and motor shells. Well, again,
this is the army that he just completed another tour
of duty for. So it's like, I don't get how

(17:46):
you can turn around and say these things are so
bad and so awful after you do them without complaint
for weeks and weeks on end. The officer explained that
the security on the site is organized in several tiers
inside the distribution center, and the leading to them are
American workers and the IDIF is not permitted to operate
in that space. More external layer is made up of

(18:06):
Palestinian supervisors, some of them armed and affiliated without Shabab militia,
and you can see this here in these videos from
the wonderful Palasinian journalist Mohammed Shahada, who again reported this
in front of the world for all of the world
to see. On the eighth of June twenty twenty five,

(18:26):
and he lays it out exactly what happens. He says,
starve gosins sleep in the open, you're almawassee's mooea mosque
that leads to the GHF hubs. Near dawn, more desperate
people arrive and start pushing the queue to get to
the GHF. The idea fires for the first massacre of
the day at three to four am every day, like clockwork.
The more shots fired, the more star people panic, scattered

(18:50):
or stampeded, and the more violently the ADIF attacks with
tank shelves and live bullets. They spare no there no
restraints in terms of targeting these people in just really rapacious,
just again completely animalistic way that they attack these people.
This is also some incredible video that he has here
of these gangs that arrive first the IDF and GHF,

(19:13):
allowing collaborators, looters, gang members and subcontractors who open boxes.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
And then this is what Heretz here calls.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Palestinian security level to as you can see, scavenge and
loot most of the valuable items to sell on the
black market. Look at this here, they're just taking it,
running away with it. They're completely unmolested. They're just having
their way with the a that's supposedly getting to all
these gossen families and it's a great success. The first

(19:40):
wave of gosins, starve gosins arrived in the earliest hours
of the morning. The IDF and GHF allows them into
cage concentration camps and feeding pens, but more people show
up than what the GHF can handle, which is i e.
Eight thousand food boxes per day for two point four
million people, so it's not going to be enough, and
the IDF starts shooting second massacre of the day. People

(20:03):
who manage to get food sometimes encounter criminals on their
way back who loot the boxes by force. And it's
completely unrestrained because of the influx of guns and the
militarization of humanitarian aid that people like UNRA and the
UN and the World Food Program have been to crying
since the very start of this situation. Here's a woman
talking about her experience, but unfortunately it's in Arabic. A

(20:26):
second wave of star gosms arrive. They take leftovers, sift
through sand and wheat to find flour and the pasta
and rice, and essentially they're just picking, picking off the
sand for just basic any sort of food that they
can they can find the pasta or the rice, the
flower whatever.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Here.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
You know, you can see this guy, this, this young
guy is sifting through sands to essentially get flour for
for his family. The less food left, the more people
scramble desperately for leftovers. And then the Audifah they're scrambling,
they're acting subsitially they open fire and it's it's just again,
it's a coaling method. Every single day, a little bit more,

(21:07):
little by little just get picked off. And of course
they claim it was because starve gosins, we're moving too
close to Israeli troops. Then a third wave of starve
Gosins arrived. They find nothing less these American mercenaries as
you can see here, to head back or else. Audia
tanks of start firing. But those desperate crowds refused to leave.

(21:28):
They had been waiting in the boiling sun for hours
and walk dozens of kilometers to get there. They don't
have any energy to walk back and neat food to
avoid collapsing. And that's of course when the IDIF and
American mercenaries start firing stunt greening, it's liable, it's tank shells,
et cetera. To force the crowd back. The indiscriminate firing
creates chaos and panic, which makes the IDF fire more.
And then you know, this whole pattern repeats yet again.

(21:51):
And I think it is very very important here to
highlight something that we have seen this like this. This
is long on I'm making here as as one reads
this really harrowing account of the Trump Israel, Trump and
Israel using aid distribution to humiliate, kill, and facilitate population transfers.
Note that delegitimizing the UN's actual aid system was central

(22:11):
to doing so, a false incitement campaign assisted by the
New York Times, Wall Street Journal and the Biden White House.
And you can see here this is the Wall Street
Journal with this big groundbreaking report. Just as this aid
operation was getting questioned, they say, oh, it's all Hamas,
you know, And the New York Times comes right through

(22:33):
backs them up. And then what do we see? The
journal still can't come from the January story about the
UN Agency for the Palestinians being controlled by Hamas. And
it doesn't matter. The damage is already done. The paper's
top editor overseeing standards, and the Wall Street Journal privately
made it an omission. The paper didn't know and still
doesn't know where the allegation, which was again based all
through Israeli intelligent supports that they reported like fact was true.

(22:56):
But it doesn't matter. You paved the way, and all
of a sudden, you know this, people who have been
distributing eight in Ghaza for decades are pushed out, and
these people who are set up to kill and kind
of just siphon off the Palestine population are brought in
let's sake, look this report here from Alazeera.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
A city decimated, a displaced people, starfved and under constant attack.
More aid seekers were killed and wounded on Friday at
an eight distribution point run by the controversial Gaza Humanitarian
Foundation or GHF. The injured were taken to a medical
facility without the capacity, equipment or staff to deal with

(23:39):
more casualties. So hey lost two more family members.

Speaker 5 (23:49):
The Israelis tell us to go out and gate eight
from this place, and then they kill us. Why do
they do this? Why Palestinians must pay with their blood
for a bag of flower. They must suffer greatly and
see death ahead of us before we can get a
bag of flower for our mothers, wives and children. Whoever
doesn't die today will die tomorrow in order to find

(24:10):
bread for their children. This is not fair. Stop what's happening,
This suffering and this torment must stop.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
Israeli forces also targeted more people on Friday, killing more
than a dozen people in Gaza cities Altofa, a four
member family wiped out in Alzetun, and tense bombed in Mevasi.
Israeli soldiers have reportedly admitted they've been ordered to deliberately
shoot people near food distribution centers in Gaza. The Heired's
newspaper reports some soldiers told it they'd been instructed to

(24:41):
shoot them at eight sites run by Israeli forces and
US PAC GHF. The head of UNDRA described the GHF
as an abomination and a death trap, while un said
the militarization of humanitarian assistance in gazas amounts to a
war crime. Doctors without Borders called for the aid scheme
to be halted, describing it as slaughter musquerading as humanitarian aid.

(25:03):
Despite those Israeli media reports, Israel's largest benefactor, of the
United States, announced an additional thirty million dollars worth of
military assistance for the organization.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
Saying this, we call in other countries to also support
the GHF, the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation and its critical work.
A track record of distributing over forty six million meals
distributed to date, all while preventing Hamas looting is absolutely
incredible and should be commended and supported. From day one
we said we are open to creative solutions that securely

(25:33):
provide aid to those in Gaza and protects Israel. The
support is simply the latest iteration of President Trump's and
Secretary of Reviews pursuit of peace in the region.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Oh and you can't get much more disgusting than that.
But honestly, what I will say here is that it
is like it you have if you are a wondering,
if you're out there, if you're in public life, you're
in private life, this stuff is going to come out.
You know, this stuff is going to be Everyone's going
to condemn this at some point or another. And if

(26:03):
you whoever you are, wherever, you may be out there
listening or watching this video, you know, and you're wondering,
if you're you're maybe that the Palestinians are getting a
raw deal whatever like. This stuff has been out there.
It's been out there since June eighth. If you're in
public or your private life, this is the time. You know,
before you can, you know, before everyone's saying it, before

(26:24):
every before it means nothing. Now this is the time
to come out and speak up, even if you don't
think you have any sort of platform. Tell your friends
about it. Don't be afraid to say. This is the
modern day holocaust of our time that is happening. They
are mowing down people seeking food, and they're doing it
with explicit US support, American workers on the ground, American

(26:48):
stage department setting in money. And you know, obviously America
has funded this entire genocide of the gods and people.
And if this isn't clear enough evidence to say that
this is wrong, and this is in every way wrong,
I don't know what is so before it's all left.
Even if you don't think of you're any platform, If
somehow someone who has a platform has any sort of

(27:11):
power within government's listening to this, then you know, obviously
that goes for you too. But you if you don't
have any power, if you do have power, this is
the moment. This is the time to even if you
if your voice won't really.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Do that much.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
You know, I know my voice won't do that much.
You know, sitting here as one person in America, you know,
join a protest, tell your friends, post on social media,
speak up about this stuff like this is this is
not morally ambiguous anymore. You can't pretend, you can't act like, oh,
it's a tough situation. There's you know, good points on
both sides. No, this is this is a genocide. This

(27:44):
is a world historical crime that is happening. Be on
the right side of history. This is your chance to
be on the right side of history. Speak out against
this stuff. This is clear as can be. This is immoral,
this is unacceptable, and just be on the right side
of history.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
You no longer have any excuse.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Stand up and go for it, because this is this
is just unimaginable. The freak out over Zoran mom Donnie
and his election as the Democratic nominee for the mayor
of New York is continuing a pace, and yeah, it
is definitely getting something getting pretty bad out there. We

(28:26):
have this kind of juicy, juicy reporting for you here
in Axios and some good mom Donnie interviews to get
to as well. Democratic establishment melts down over Mom Donnie's
win in New York. Many Democratic leaders and donors are
panicking about Zoram Donnie, the thirty three year old Democratic
socials who won the party's nomination to be the next

(28:48):
mayor of New York City. And I honestly think there
are kind of two main reasons for this. One of
them is, you know, they are genuinely afraid of and
they're oppositional to I mean, you saw from you know,
Kathy Holkle, you saw from Christian jib and a number
of the really kind of just crappy things that were
said about him, you know, Christian Gillman, and essentially applying
on WNYC, which is the largest MPR station in the country.

(29:11):
This is the New York flagship MPR station that he supports, jihat,
you know, and he barely getting any sort of a
pushback from it from people who aren't already you know,
Mom Nunty supporters. The freak out has been crazy. But
I also think it comes from a sense of fear.
And the fear is that their normal strategy, their normal
way of going about business isn't working anymore. It's it's

(29:34):
not something that they can reliably turn to a saying, oh,
this guy's anti Semitic, he's anti Israel, he's going to
bankrupt the state, or whatever. You know, Their normal stuff
goes to he not only did he win, but he
crushed expectations, and he did so with the support of
the most prominent elected official who is Jewish, Brad Lander,

(29:55):
in all of the city. So it is a pretty
ringing endorsement for his method of campaigning, which I think
is it is really incredible, and I just I just
get just hyped up. You know, it's kind of weird
whenever whenever I hear about this because or whenever I
talk about this, because it is so exciting to see

(30:16):
somebody who is so principle and so tight to his message,
and we're gonna play, you know, some clips for you
from that in just a second. But he is also
so tight and so principled and so kind of unbending
on his message, which is a reasonable message that resonates
with New Yorkers. And I think one of the best
things that Mom Daddie said about this is there's no

(30:37):
you know, ideological majority, there's no group of people, there's
no fifty plus percent of people that want to.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Hear, oh socialism. You know, we're we're bringing red Wave
to New York City. All that stuff.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
That's not going to excite everybody. But what is going
to excite any everybody is a politician who stands up
uncompromisingly and confidently and says, here are the policies that
I'm going to do that are going to be bold,
but they're also deliverable, and they're going to fix the
horrific affordability problem that we have in our city. And

(31:06):
that is something that I think was the biggest thing
that was so key to mam Donni's success is that
he understood and he listened to people. He didn't try
and again imposed himself on this debate, and he really
got rewarded for it. And that's something the Democratic establishment
could learn a lot from. On Wednesday, many Democratic leaders

(31:27):
and lawmakers and officials either denounced mom donni or notably
declined to rally around him. Chuck Schumer, Hakim Jeffries, Laura
Gillan called him the absolute wrong choice for New York.
And there's a reason why she's on Long Island. She's
practically a Republican. Tom Swose much in the same but
Pat Ryan, Josh Riley, and Richie Torres, who went so

(31:49):
far to say he wouldn't run for governor if Mom
Donnie won. All Dodge Reporters Representative Dan Goldman asked if
he had any thoughts about the result, told Axios right now,
which is interesting because he is also somebody who represents
a district that was one pretty overwhelmingly by Mom and
Honey in this race. So it makes him very, very
vulnerable for a primary challenge. If I were him, I

(32:12):
would be you know, he ran a great campaign and
he listened to a lot of New Yorker's concerns. A
lot of a lot of people learn from him. But no,
it's and I think there's a there's a quote from
Liz Smith on this who you know now, she actually
has a She's a shark for sure. She used to
work for Andrew Clomo, she is, she used to work
for Pee Boot Judge as well. She's one hundred percent,

(32:33):
you know, in the Democratic establishing camp. But she says
the full on freak out by the establishment is entirely predictable.
They do no introspection or soul searching and instead just
lash out. This is an outcome of their own creation.
If you don't want to lose to a socialist, don't
run a fatally flaw out candidate like Andrew Cuomo. And
again there's a lot of just low IQ stuff happening

(32:55):
on the Democratic Party side here, but it is, you know,
they kind of their lack of understanding of the electorate
and they're just complete levels of out of touchness, so
to speak from from Democratic voters. They use it as
a cudgel to strike almost more aggressively than ever before

(33:15):
at these these demo are these kind of insurgent candidates.
So I think it is a reason for Zoron to
be a little bit careful because you know, they do
have the sense of fear because you know, sixty plus
percent want new leadership in the Democratic Party, Chuck Schumer,
Hakim Jeffreys. Their approval rings are toilet low. They're at
the floor right now. And you know there has been

(33:36):
never been if you look at all the polls, if
you look at the way things are going with you know,
I think it's like twenty twenty representatives currently facing primary challenges.
There's been talk of a lot more coming down the pike.
You know, it is is a time where there has
never been more of a ripe environment for primary challenges,

(33:57):
and you know, more and more people in the Democratic
Party is saying they identify as quote very liberal, and
a lot of this comes from the absolute discredit because
it wasn't this way. They were able to, you know,
rally the whole field around Joe Biden twenty twenty. But
then they screw up the Joe Biden whole situation. They
feed the way into Donald Trump, and lo and behold,
the base is like, Okay, you guys don't know what

(34:17):
the hell you're doing, and we are facing a fascist
Trump regime where no one wants to call him out
and the only people who do do it in the
most pathetic way possible.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
So it's been a very very big thing.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
You know, he gets some you know, anti Sabbitism kind
of flak in this article, which is it just continues
to be ridiculous. He also said that Palcinian's cause of
what brought him into organizing and that New York State
Assembly is a bashing of Zionist thought. I mean, it
shouldn't be controversial to say. Gillan alleged that Donning has

(34:49):
demonstrated a deeply disturbing pattern of unacceptable anti Semitic comments.
I mean, he could say I love Benjamin dan Yahu,
and you know that would be probably the only thing
that would cause him, you know, you would have to
pledge to go to Israel and have to prick his
finger and swear a blood oath to Benjamin Atiahoo in
order to beat those anti Semitism charges. But also it's

(35:09):
a big thing to hit on his broader, more popular
policies and ones of actual economic justice. Let's take a
look here at this interview, this little clip of Zorimamdani,
who highlights again why I think he's so effective. He's
unapologetic in standing out for his principles and saying we
need change, we need more dignity. But he also does

(35:31):
it in a way that isn't so overly ideologically coming
off as a crazy leftist. He says, Okay, this is
what doctor King said. He inspired my belief we need
dignity for more people in this country.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
And I'm curious what you think this means.

Speaker 6 (35:43):
I mean, do you like capitalism?

Speaker 5 (35:46):
No?

Speaker 6 (35:46):
I have many critiques of capitalism, and I think ultimately
the definition for me of why I call myself a
democratic socialist is the words of doctor King decades ago.
He said, call it democracy or call it democratic socialism.
There must be a better distribution of wealth for all
of God's children in this country. And that's what I'm
focused on, is dignity and taking on income inequality. And

(36:08):
for two long politicians have pretended that we're spectators to
that crisis of affordability. We're actually actors, and we have
the choice to exacerbate it like Mayor Adams has done,
or to respond to it and resolve it, like I'm planning,
and I'm curious what you think.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Yeah, so there you have. It's just like, we have
a problem here. We need to respond to it. We
need to solve it. And if you want to call
it democratic socialism, you can call it democratic socialism. But
I am going to call it. You know, I'm gonna
call it dignity for all people all call it democratic
socialism too. I don't care, I'm honest, but you know
everyone knows because I keep saying it again and again.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
I want to solve the affordability crisis for New Yorkers.
Here's another good clups before you go.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
One last thing, Bill Ackman.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
I just mentioned him as he's the billionaire hedge fund manager.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
But he's not alone.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
They're a lot like him, whether it's Ken Griffin or
CEOs of big banks.

Speaker 6 (36:54):
Would you meet with them, I'll meet with anyone. I
will meet with them, and I'll explain why I believe
in the necessity of raising the top corporate tax right.
And I'd also tell Bill Ackman that I firmly disagree
with his attempt to dismantle diversity, equity and inclusion across
the country because it's not only against the morals of
so many it's also against the actual bottom line for
so many businesses. And as a businessman, he should understand that.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
All right, there you go, and there's somebody who is again,
he is reasonable. He comes off as somebody who's going
to talk to anyone, who's going to try and convince everyone.
And I saw that from a lot of people online
who are definitely centrist coded, you know, so to speak,
and they say, hey, this guy he will talk to anyone.
He'll put it, he'll he'll play to the audience, and
he'll explain to you in a way that you understand

(37:34):
and that resonates with you why his policies are so
good for you and makes sense in general, and he
won't come off as somebody who is pandering. And I
think that is an incredible skill that I don't think
many people are going to be able to have this
kind of messaging, but I think, you know, still a
lot of Democrats would be and a lot of left
Democrats would be very well served kind of quibbing. Some

(37:56):
notes from him, and another clip here of him on
gen side. This is the day after he won. And
I think this was a very effective intervention here on
the Democratic Party in general.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
How people campaign.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
But what do you think it means.

Speaker 6 (38:14):
I think it is part of a larger referendum on
where our party goes. And I think one of the
hopes that we had from the very beginning of this
campaign was to move our political instinct from lecturing to listening.
You know, at the national level, after the presidential election,
we saw that New York was actually the state with
the largest swing in the country towards Donald Trump eleven
and a half points, and that that swing took place

(38:36):
far from the caricature of Trump voters, instead taking place
in the hearts of immigrant New York City. And I
went to those neighborhoods. I went to Fordham Road in
the Bronx and Hillside Avenue in Queens, and I asked
those New Yorkers, the vast majority of whom we're Democrats,
why they voted for Trump and what it would take
to bring them back to the Democratic Party. And again
and again what I heard from them was cost of

(38:56):
living was an inability to afford the very things they
recalled being able to purchase four years ago. And when
they told me what it would take, they said again
and again, a relentless focus on an economic agenda. And ultimately,
in listening to them, we built a campaign that was
explicitly about making this city affordable. And I think too
often in politics there's a desire to impose what you

(39:18):
think the debate is upon the people that you're seeking
to represent, as opposed to listening to the very issues
that are making it difficult for them to keep calling
the city that they love the city that they live in.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
I mean, that is a very very effective way of
putting it, and I think that's something that a lot
of people kind of I guess left each type media
circles could learn from.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
And I think it's also something.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
That a lot of people in the democratic establishment could
learn from. There is a much broader market for this
kind of stuff, and people are realizing the scale of
the chaos that has been going on in this country
for so many years, not just in New Rope but
across the country when it comes to cost the blame,
which just comes to so many different issues of economic justice,

(40:02):
and unapologetically focusing on that and listening to people who
are saying this, my economic situation is the biggest problem
in my life. It's been it's been very very effective.
It's something that it's kind of shocking that Zoran has
been one of the only kind of effective campaigns to do.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
And it almost makes it.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Come off as, you know, really not even that ideological.
I think it's this kind of instinct, is kind of
this laser sharp focus on effective listening and being able
to communicate this kind of bold change very confidently, very unapologetically,
and also running such a competent campaign, which is why
I think he's going to kind of rise to the

(40:42):
really incredible challenges that's going to be ahead of him
as the incoming mayor of New York. I mean, he's
going to not have he's gonna be a figurehead. He's
gonna be in the media a lot, but he's not
gonna have a lot of power. He's not gonna have
that ability to raise taxes without this sword evolving. He's
gonna have to a lot of convincing, and he's gonna
have to do a lot of self advocate and he's

(41:03):
gonna have to advocate for his positions to a lot
of very powerful people. And he's gonna have to convince
the people that put him in office in a big
way that he is still working but even when results
get so and explain to them what that problem is.
And I think his ability to play to all these
audiences while still absolutely believing in his message, which is,

(41:27):
by the way, a message that resonates with so many people,
while also you know, again talking to people where they're
at but not coming off his pandering. I think that's
going to be a huge, huge asset for him down
the road. Talking to all these different audiences and you know,
people like Bill Ackman, people like ken't Griff and these
people who essentially want to destroy him, he's gonna come.
I think He's can calm them down a lot, at
least in the meeting, and he's going to like that's

(41:50):
going to be a huge, huge answer for him as
he continues to go ahead in this campaign. It's going
to be absolutely essential, and I think it's going to
be something that a lot of people could learn from,
and also it really could end up saving his popularity
and his agenda going forward.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
In his mayoral term.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
That is, if, of course, he beats off this that
general election challenge. So a lot of interesting stuff, a
lot of challenges coming through on his way, for sure,
But if there's anyone with the message chops, the kind
of policy chops and the just kind of communication chops
to handle this and to deal with it effectively, I

(42:31):
think it is one thousand percent Zorn Mom, Donnie, and
I'm very very proud and very very reassured to have
him as one of the top representatives for left wing
politics in America right now. A lot of interesting stuff
ahead to cover, and we will be with you through
it all. Thank you somuch for listening to today's new slash.

(42:53):
We'll be back on Monday and try and fit in
a show before the fourth, so stay tuned for all that,
and of course check out all video clips from all
Newsflash episodes on the Spencer wallsh channel on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
I have a great day everyone,
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