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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Hell everyone, man, name is Spencer Walsh. We have a
great one for you today. We're gonna be keeping a
close look at the big, beautiful bill as it passes
through the House and probably pretty soon will be going
towards the President's desk. Taken will get what Republicans are
doing to whip their holdout members into line, especially in
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the House, those fiscal hawks are holding like lawn chairs.
Take a look at how both sides are spinning this,
if the Democrats are doing a good enough job, and
what they'll have to do to increase public understanding of
this bill. We're also could take a look at when
these provisions are going to be coming to effect and why.
That interesting fact kind of shows that the Republicans do
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know how bad this bill is going to be there
for them at the very least politically, and they don't
seem to care. We take a look at how they're
going to get around that little problem. Also going to
give you the latest on continued Israeli lawlessness in gazap
more of these aid masters now that Associated pressors reporting
Americans have been taking part in alongside the IDF, We're
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elso gonna take a look at Claudia Shinbaum in Mexico
and her masterclass in standing up to Trump over these
past few months of his administration, refusing to get goaded
into any of these provocations, and why she may have
to change up for game and take things up a
little bit pretty darn soon, a very very interesting battle
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that she and a lot of other countries are facing
when it comes to handling the kind of craziness and
the belligerent bullying the two administration has put towards so
many countries. Of course, all these clips are going to
be at least of course over the next few days
on the Spencer Walsh YouTube channel. Lets get the new
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Speaker 2 (02:06):
Walsh.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Go there, check it out, subscribe, get a visual version
of the show. It's pretty cool. And with that, let's
get into the stories we are continuing to follow and
take a look at and monitor the passage of the
Big Beautiful Bill. It is now in the house. It
is getting its final vote momentarily. And the reason why
I feel comfortable making this video before the final vote
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takes place is because it's essentially pretty much assured that
this thing is going to pass. And we talked about
in great detail on the last show the damage this
bill could have on our country, on our economy and
the people that need help the most in this country.
So that is something I recommend you go check you out.
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But of course after you watched this video, yeah, how
about that, because we are going to go through all
of the latest on this bill, including all of the
efforts really to stop it. So the House took its
first step early Thursday toward a final vote on Trump's
marquee domestic policy bill, after Republicans put down a revolt
by conservative holdouts that had threatened to sink it. After
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a day and night of paralysis on the House floor
and haggling and uncertainty in the capitol, Speaker Mike Johnson
scored a preliminary victory in his bid to overcome resistance
within the party when the House voted to allow the
bill to come up for debate. So that's something that
Thomas Massey, who was pretty much the only holdout on it,
he was a hardcore guy who essentially would say, if
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there's anything that's going to increase the deficit in this bill,
I'm going to be voting against it. He was the
only person that didn't flip over everyone else. One of
the fiscal hawks that I told you about last time
in the House, as was kind of expected, ended up
caving to this bill. Representative Hakim Jefferies, Democrat of New
York and the minority leader, was delaying the vote on
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Thursday morning by using his prerogative as a leader to
take far more more than his allotted one minute to speak,
stailing the bill as a disgusting abomination. We've heard that
before from from Elon Musk actually talking about the bill,
although it's been and changed a little bit, but I
still don't think he supports it either. Jefferies began speaking
at five am Eastern and spent much of this time
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beating testimonials from Americans who said they were lied on
Medicaid and worried that the cuts to the program would
up end their lives. And it's good to see Democrats
getting to this now, but there's really been remarkable to
see how little they have message on this bill, how
little they have been clear on this bill until it
has been far, far too late. There could have been
a huge upsurge in resistance, but the fact is you know,
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the July fourth deadline. It was kind of telegraphed and
televised that this was going to happen for quite a while.
Yet what do we see. We don't see any real
clear action from Democrats until maybe about two weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
At the best.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Facing tight margins in the House, Johnson could only afford
a handful of defections on the measure, which is slash
tack by a total of four point five trillion, increased
running for the military and border security, cut about one
trillion dollars from medicaid, and reduced food assistance for the poor.
In the end, Representive Brian Fitzpatrick, a moderate from Pennsylvania,
joint Democrats in opposing the move to vance the bill
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to the floor, after four other Republicans had initially voted
against and several others had withheld their votes as dysfunction
rained on the House floor into the wed hours of
Thursday morning. Ahead of the vote, a handful of Republicans
opposed bringing the measure and withheld their votes altogether, sending
Johnson grasping for a way to muscle through the sweeping
legislation in the face of unified Democratic opposition. I wanted
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to bring your attention here to this little graphic, and
it is it is very kind of clever the way
they do it. These tax cuts here, the hired standard deduction,
no tax on tip for overtime, state and local tax
cap increases, all those benefits, all those kind of giveaways
are you know, to the middle class, to the normal people.
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Essentially are starting right away, but potentially in twenty twenty five,
starting in twenty twenty six. Medicaid work requirements start December
thirty first, twenty twenty six for most states, and Medicaid
and food stamp funding changes start in twenty twenty eight.
So you can see it is a very kind of
clever move here that the Republicans have done. Is you know,
they know how unpopular this is gonna be. They know
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that they really had to do this because of budgetary reasons.
And here's a great tweet from Jeff Stne because they
really wanted their tax cuts for the rich so damn badly.
And even Steve Bannon realized that there was a better
way about this. He said, if Republicans had followed Steve
Bannon's advice about allowing the tax rate for the top
one percent to return from from thirty seven point nine
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up to thirty nine point six. They could have reduced
Medicaid cuts in the bill roughly in half. They you know,
that is a really that is a really remarkable thing,
and it shows you how dedicated they were. And the
fact that also I think as jd Vance kind of
hinted in some of his statesments on this, that there
wouldn't be fifty votes for that proposal. There wouldn't be
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fifty votes for just letting the taxes go back to
the way they were before the Trump tax cuts in
twenty seventeen. With a thirty seven to thirty nine point
six percent rating there for the top one percent, they.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Have not done that.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
They should have done that, but instead now they're going
to be cutting Medicaid and they're going to be really
really screwing over a lot of their own voters. But
as they cleverly say, here, oh, we're not going to
do that until twenty twenty eight, and then we're going
to begin the process.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
At twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
So I think it's going to be a very very
clear sign that oh, yeah, we can point to the
tax gits, all the tax gut stuff, all this good
stuff here is starting in twenty twenty five. But the Medicaid,
the food stamps, the new rules on health insurance, that
is going to be starting at the very latest, you know,
in the midterm election year, or at the very earliest
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in the midtrum election year, and in a lot of
cases after the midtrum election and after even the presidential election.
So they're trying to get the good benefits from the
bill and trying to put the stuff in that they
only really put because of definicit concerns. They're trying to
save that till later, which I think is very interesting
and shows how, you know, they really do kind of
get the political situation, they get how bad it is,
and they're trying to just you know, kind of pass
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that buck down the road to avoid as much of
the political hit of it as possible. Electric vehicle credits
meanwhile and by September thirtieth, and home managery credits end
by December thirty first, twenty twenty five. So let's take
a look at how some of the Democrats are messaging
on this. Let's go to Hakeem Jeffries talking about this bill.
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I'm be interesting to see how dynamic he is here
because he you know, I saw that baseball bat picture
where he's essentially saying, you know, it's it's I don't
even know what he said. It was some kind of
cringe line and he just stood looking absolutely blank faced
with a baseball bat. I think they take a baseball
bat to this bill. Oh see what he else is
at here?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
How can you.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Prepare to celebrate legislation that will undermine the quality of
life of everyday Americans. It's not just.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
A hypothetical, it's not just.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Hyperbole. It's not just hype. It will happen. Every day
Americans will be hurt by the one big ugly bill.
We're here on a Florida House of Representatives debating legislation
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in the middle of the night, with millions of Americans
having gone asleep, anxious about what would happen here on
the Florida House of Representatives.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Understandably concern Yeah, So he just it essentially goes on
and on in that kind of a way and that
kind of a format. So it's not really the most
I think you just just finished. The force just went
they're still going. He just went past the six out
of the mark on his four speech. He condemned Republicans
for an all out assault on law abiding immigrant families,
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including American citizens, saying it was unconsortable, accept unacceptable, and
un American. The sweeping domestic policy bill debate under debate
includes one hundred and seventy five billion dollars with a
b billion dollars for the trumpministration of boost immigration and
UH enforcement and border security. So that is a huge,
huge giveaway to UH make more things like alligated Alcatraz
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UH and really expand the capacity of you know, maybe
who knows what they have planned, because they they've been
going back and forth on you know, do we deport
honest workers and they've already deported plenty of honest workers
UH as opposed to criminals. They have shown them they
in a lot of cases they don't care about going
after the criminals. They just want to go get those
numbers up as much as humanly possible. And that's something
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that they've really tried to do, as we saw that
set off the LA protest, but then they got some
pushback moment then they flipped, and honestly don't know where
they are now, but this is shows a real, incredibly
ominous intention as one of the many bad things in
this bill to go ahead and build a whole kind
of security state, you know, for a huge network of
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just essentially concentration camps out there, to put a lot
of people who again have not done anything wrong except
for come across the border, documented and have done their
best to work for many, many years in America, and
you're just knowing them in prison and not trying to
do any sort of actual system that integrates them, that
allows them to come into American society and behave as
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they normally would. So, yeah, that is a really clear
and incredible thing. I'm honestly it wasn't too too imp
with the game Jeffrey speech. I mean, that was to
be and to be clear that that was the start
of the speech.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
That was.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
That was a pretty fair fair amount of time into it,
I think, but it was. It wasn't like he's been
going on for six hours, maybe like two or three.
But we have to also take a look at the
first Republican clip here that I can find. This is
Steve Scalise talking about, you know, how how he wants
people to assume that these GOP tax cuts are going
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to go and this GOP cut on Medicaid I've had before.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
If you're disabled on medicaid right now, you've been crowded
out of those programs by people turning down work able
bodied people. Thirty five year olds sitting at home playing
video games.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
They're gonna now have to go get a job. That's right.
And by the way, that's a good thing for them.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Their mom doesn't want him sitting in the basement playing
video games anyway. But now it no longer will be
crowding out medicaid for the truly needy people who deserve it.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yeah, I mean, that's a very optimist to say that,
you know, put it very nicely, that's a very optimistic
way of looking at it. You know, there really is
no evidence as suggesting that that type of person, that
type of arc type about oh, you know, there's someone
at home do they don't want to work, they're using
they're just going on video games. There's there's not really
that much of an archetype that that exists. To be
quite honest with you, it's just a lot of people
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that most of the time, you know, are struggling to
get medicaid because of the process being so intentionally convoluted
and complicated.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
All the paperwork, all the forms.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
You know, there's a lot of times you have the
Medicaid offices on the seventh floor and there's no working elevators,
so you know, they're really just sick. They're really actually
the people who need to care the most. We're gonna
have the least resources to cut through all the bureaucracy
to go and get that bureaucracy. Isn't a liberal creation,
isn't a democratic creation. It is a Republican creation here
to stop people from getting this social safety net that
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they so desperately need. I think this is going to
be more of the kind of vibe that we need,
I think from Democrats.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I don't know who.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
This is.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
A representative named Sanchez.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
From California's recognized for one minute.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
Thank you, mister speaker. I flew overnight through thunderstorms and
flash flood warnings to be here to stand up for
my district this morning. Because Republicans refuse to stand up
for theirs. I've been in Congress for over twenty years,
and I've never seen such cowardice from my colleagues across
the aisle. Time and time again, we see Republicans fold
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like cheap lawn chairs. Senator Lisa or Senator Murkowski said
it was a bad bill, then why the hell would
you vote for it. I'm here to stand up against
a bill that kicks seventeen million Americans off of their healthcare,
a bill that cuts school lunches and food assistants to
children who go to bed hungry every night. A bill
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that includes billions of dollars for ICE, an already bloated
agency that has been upending due process and rap actually
profiling people in my district for weeks. To my colleagues
across the aisle, have you no decency? Have you no humanity?
It's not too late to do what you know is
right by your constituents and by your country. Vote no
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on this one, big steaming pile of crap.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Okay, I liked that there from Linda Sanchez. That was
a much more of a clear and direct speech. I
would certainly say. Bryan shatsmanwhile was a Democrat of Hawaii,
sid in a brief interview on Thursday of the expected
passage of the Domestic Policy Bill. Democrats had to connect
the unpopular policies in the legislation to the Republican lawmakers
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who supported them. Oh, look at that. You know you
gotta be Yeah, you got to be brutal. You got
to be running against people in these swing districts. You know,
Mike Lawler, for example, in New York seventeenth district, one
of the tightest uh and one of the only one
of three I think of the districts that went for
Kamala Harris and have a Republican representative. You know, he
was someone who was under a lot of pressure to
go and go against this, but he voted for this bill.
(16:05):
Pretty Much every Republican in those swing districts voted for
this bill, and they're absolutely right that they do have
to be maybe more brutal than they're normally comfortable with.
As Democrats who are normally very passive, to go and
connect this to those lawmakers, our job is to point out,
he says, when kids get less to eat, when a
ural hospital shutter, when the price of electricity goes up, that
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this is because of what your Republican elective official did.
This is their fault and they own all of it.
And I think that is one part of it. But again,
as you know, for example, Zorn Mamdani, but also really
as Democrats back in twenty twenty two or twenty twenty one.
I think whenever they did the two thousand dollars check
campaign did as well. You know, they know how to
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do this stuff. You actually have to come in and
promise people's stuff. You actually have to come in and say,
here's how we are going to make your lives better.
We're not just going to redo all the unpopular things
bad Republicans did, and you know they are pretty unpopular,
especially this bill is pretty unpopular. We are going to
actually make your lives better. We're going to move on
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from this time and we're going to make something better.
How crazy? How awesome would that be from the Democratic Party?
It it'd be a sight to behold. To say the least,
we got to bring you up to speed on the
latest in the continuing crisis that we're seeing, the continuing
genocide that we are seeing in Gaza. At the moment,
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the one hundred and eighteen have been killed, eighty percent
of South Gaza's con units has been forcibly displaced at
this point. Out of your investigation is showing that at
least one hundred and eighteen Pousan, including twelve eightycres, have
been killed five eighty one injured in Israeli attacks just
across the past twenty four hours. Here you can see
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some of the pictures how gosms are trying to beat
the summer heat even under the threat of a genocide.
Thirty nine children among the six hundred and sixty arrested
by Israel and the West Bank last month alone, Gaza
running out of fuel. Two point one million lives on
the bank. According to NRC chief. There's a Norwegian Refugee
Council chief Yon Eganon's I'm gonna be a real problem continuing.
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Israeli drone attacks have hit a car in the south
of Beirute. You know, you may have thought, oh, you're
supposedly the ceasefire and lemanon, Oh it's gonna be different. Well,
you know, we're dealing with Israel here. The cease fires
don't apply to them. They can operate with impunity and
no one is going to seem to care because they
have the backing of the most powerful military in the
world's most powerful government in the world, the United States,
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in terms of their consistent ability to get to mn
of cover military support for breaking these ces fires. What
also don't think is interesting is they get to bomb
another country, they don't have to prove the people that
they're bombing are hasible people. It's something that does not
even you know, the sovereignty of Lebanon is so degraded
that they can bomb these countries and bomb so many
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other cons to the bomb and not even have to prove,
not even have to show that this is what they
are doing. Apparently Israeli forces have been using drugs to
recruit collaborators in the Gods of Straps and this comes
as we've seen pictures circulate on social media about the
possible use of these drugs, the small pills and not
entirely sure what the pills are, but their pills have
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been found in bags of flower distributed by the Israeli
American Humanitarian Foundation Gods the Humanitarian Foundation, which has really
been a just trap to lure and kill a lot
of gosms, over over six hundred plus gosms over the
around a month or so the Humanitarian Foundation has been open.
The GHF, I don't even want to call it Humanitarian Foundation,
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just call it GHF because I know HF stands for
Menitarian Foundation. But still it just boggles the mind. It
really it really really does to have to try and
pretend that it's a humanitarian foundation. Meanwhile, Dan Perry, who's
an Israeli affairs analyst, said, the latest sees for our
proposal that Washington has said Israel agreed to does not
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appear to include a guarantee of an end to the
war on Gaza. My assessment is that Israel will insist
on a full Hamas disarmament, and also Israel will come
under pressure to allow the palating the authority to be
the umbrella brand on which Gaza is governed, presumably with
the help of Arabic countries. But neither of those things
have been agreed to, respectively by Hamas or Israel. Hamas
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has said, well, actually that's not entirely true. Hamas has
agreed to hand over to a unity government, but Israel
has certainly not agreed to that. They want to know,
quote unquote, destroy Himas and have that can continued excuse
to operate inside the Gaza strip. Meanwhile, Perry said that
in Israel there's a strong opposition to prolonging the war. It
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has been and we've been hearing that for a while,
But I think that the truth is we have been
yet to see it. This is a really crazy headline.
The US contractors say their colleagues are firing live ammunition
as Palestinians seek food in Gaza. Let's teak look at
this report from Associated Press.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Testimonies and videos obtained by the Associated Press show American
contractors guarding aid distribution sites inside Gaza are using live
ammunition and stun grenades as hungary Palestinians scramble for food.
Two US contractors, who spoke to us on the condition
of anonymity because they were revealing their employer's internal operations,
said they were coming out because they were disturbed by
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what they saw as dangerous and irresponsible practices. Both have
extensive military experience. They say the security staff on site
were often unqualified, unvetted, and had an open license to
do whatever they wished. Their testimonies, combined with videos, text messages,
and internal reports seen by the AP, provide a rare
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glimpse into the workings of the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation the.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
New Yeah, we can take a look at this in
some of these quotes here from the Gas Humantarian Foundation,
as we're seeing US troops now doing the same thing
that Israeli troops have been doing essentially just opening fire,
and technically it's not US troops, but it's done with
the knowledge and the assent at the very least of
the United States government, and it's done with people who essentially,
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throughout them all, they all used to be American troops.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
So I think that's something very very telling there. He said.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
American staff on these sites monitor those coming to seek
food and document this is a contractor here and document
anyone considered suspicious, and they then share that information with
the Israelian military. He said, there are people, innocent people
being badly hurt needlessly. The contractor said, if we got
to hurt innocent people, there better be a need. I
guess that's what his opinion is there. Let's take a
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look at some of these quotes, and there really are
some pretty incredible quotes. We come here to get food
for our families. We have nothing, He recounted the Palestine's
telling him, why does the Israeli army shoot at us?
Why do you shoot at us? A spokesperson for the
Humanitarian Foundations that there are people who have vested interest
and seeing it fail and are willing to do and
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say anything to make that happen really just through the
looking class rhetoric there from a lot of these people
who are involved in this, and they're doing this operation
as a means of providing a big leak of aid
while continuing with the ethnic cleansing of the gods and
people there. You know, really quite clearly, throughout the war,
the AIDE distribution has been marred by chaos. That is
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a big, big but really no more chaos. There's been
remarkably few. There really has been remarkably few massacres or hamas,
looting or anything like that, considering the incredibly dire straits
of the population has been in most of the time,
it's been Israeli's shooting at aid seekers time and time again,
as we saw with the flower Masker. We saw with
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various incidents throughout the war whereas Israeli troops open fire
on desperate Palestinian to get too close. This though, has
really been institutionalized. It's been systematized by the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation.
So in one video this is probably the craziest part
and what appears to be heavily armed American siority contractors
at one of the sites in Gaza discuss how to
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disburse palust Indians nearby. One is heard, he's saying. One
is heard saying he's arranged for a show of force
by Israeli tanks.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Funnily enough, this was not included in the Associated Press article.
I don't want this to be too aggressive, he says,
because this is calming down.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
At that moment.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
A burst of gunfire are up close by, at least
fifteen Shotso one contractor yelps, I think you hit one,
one says, Then comes a shout, hell, yeah, boy. The
camera's view is obscured by a large dirt mound, so
you know, they're celebrating about hitting these like if that
audio ever comes out, and apparently there has been you know,
kind of live video of all this stuff that's been
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fed back to Israeli truck where they had this facial
recognition software that's scanning everyone who they have in their
system for any sort of you know, apparently any sort
of very weak, unsubstantiated ties to a mo so they
could just gun down. They're celebrating this killing on a
mass scale here. It really is remarkable, remarkable stuff. The
contractor who took the video told the AP saw other
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contractors shooting in the direction of Palestinians who had just
collected their food and were departing. The men shot both
from a tower above the site and atop the mound.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
He said.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
The shooting began because contractors wanted to disperse the crowd,
he said, but it was unclear why they continue shooting
as people were walking away. I'll tell you why. It's
because they wanted to kill them Like that is the
reason why you generally tend to shoot a people who
are walking away from you or Juni people in general,
is because you.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Want to see them dead. And it really is.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
It cannot be more apparent how the violent genocidal ethnic
cleansing contentions that are behind this aid distribution effort. And
no time in this geno set has America been more
intimately involved than right now. It really is incredible, incredible stuff.
And other videos furnished by the contractors, men in gray
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uniforms colleagues, he said, can be seen leaning trying to
clear Palestinian too our squeeze into a narrow fenced in
passage leading to one of the centers. The men fire
pepper spray and throw stung grains to detonate around the crowd,
the sound of gunfire can be heard, and you know,
does this look remain here if you're watching this on
the video, does this look like a serious effort to
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give out aid. This is one woman in a donkey
cart who had been hit by a stunge grenade being
taken away. The amount of dehumanization and just lack of
dignity has been incredible. Apparently some Palestinians were you know,
wincing and coughing from the pepper spray, and one of them,
one of the Americans, can be heard saying, you're tasting
that pepper spray.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Yuck.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
It just just absolutely just piggish, piggish people who are
signing up to just kill people for fun because they're
bored after their time in the military or whatever it is.
It is really really bad, bad stuff. And you know,
their cooperation with you know, Palstini gangs who they invite
in first to come and loot the situation and something
that Hamas has been trying to go after actually and
not encourage, which I think is very very you know,
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sensible continue considering the situation that they have going on,
and really it is American analysts and Israeli soldiers working
side by side, and the results of six hundred dead
speak for them. So six hundred plus dead who are
just eight secres alone, they really do speak for themselves.
Do you want to just quickly breeze through here? You
know the vantage points article because my recent advantage points
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article advantages dot substack dot com, because I do think
it's interesting. As we get closer and closer to easistfire,
Trump has said he wants to get a cs fire
at some point in the near future. We're going to
see if you know net Nyahu agrees to it. But
essentially I get into here, I encourage you go check
out the full article.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Just why the current proposal to.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Pause Israeli's genocidal uh is the Israeli genocidal onsite won't
bring a just lasting solution. It's because it's been quite
clear the main effort of the Israeli campaign in Gaza
right now it's not to eliminate Hamas quote unquote get Hamas,
to seed power. They've already said that they want to
seed power to a policy Inian unity government. But the
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main thing has been the main thing has been through
all of this is they have said now quite clearly
they want to capture Gaza. They want to control Gaza
and they don't want Palestinians around when they do. Despite
Israel's killing, though, Hamas has ramped up attacks on Israeli
soldiers in Gaza, killing seven soldiers in a single complex
ambush in communists last week. With Israel in the US
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making their offer known, the ball is in Hamas's court
and certainly possible given the lack of an assurance of
the end of the war in the latest US Israeli
offer that Hamas rejects the proposal, But if Hamas does accept,
the US may just reject their own. Hamas accepted proposal
after the fact, as they did weeks ago in May,
because it didn't include you know what, Israelis are now
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calowing the Trump plan because he kind of endorsed it,
which is the complete and total ethnic cleansing of Gaza.
And even if both sides seen the he's fired through.
Even if Israel is happy, Hamas is happy and the
US says, okay, let's do it for sixty days, Israel
has already made their intentions clear complete control of Gaza.
Unless Trump is actually serious about using the using the
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z spire to negotiate with the mass about handing power
over to a Palti and unique government ll be right
back to square one at the end of sixty days.
If that happens, Israel, with all or most of this hostages,
is safe and potentially new normalization deals, as there's already
been some talk of a Syrian normalization deal in coming.
You know, nothing will stand in its way for attaining
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complete control of the godless Strip. They'll be able to
do whatever they want with the gods of Strip. The
only question will then be if the US continues to
join in the death and explosion or is merely content
supplying the bullets and the boats. And it really is
an incredibly just ethically devoid situation. And as I said,
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and I think it was the last show or two
shows ago, you can be on the right side of history.
Just you will feel so much better making your voice
known if you see this stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Going on, do something, do any.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Little thing to make your voice known, make your voice
heard to the people in power on this stuff. As
they continue to perpetrate this mass slaughter of pause neans
on a daily basis and pausing the civilians on a
daily basis, and continue their ethnic cleansing operation ever since
Donald Trump has returned to office, there has been a
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pretty big discussion going on about what is the best
way to stand up to this guy? And really is
he a lot more weak and vulnerable and open to
kind of negotiation, manipulation and all that kind of stuff.
Then we think, well, I think nobody has done a
better job of showing how possible kind of besting Donald
Trump is or can really be than the Mexican President,
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the incredible Claudia shinebound the latest in the Marina dynasty.
Mexico has really done an incredible job. On Sunday, March ninth,
over a three hundred and fifty thousand people crammed into
Mexico's city Central Square. The Zoclo Jacobin is reporting here
in repudiation of the US President Donald Trump's tariff threats.
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Just days before, President Claudia Shineboum announced the reaching of
an agreement which, under the cover of the United States
Mexico Canada agreement, would he exempt Mexico from most of
the levies. Fortunately, dialogue has prevailed and especially respect between
our nations. Shinebop total crowd. Sure enough, when Trump announced
his Libration Day tariffs on April second, both Mexico and
Canada had been excluded. It's essentially just standing tough, being calm, cool, collected,
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and knowing your power, knowing your leverage, and saying we
don't need to take this, we don't want to take this.
It's it's ridiculous. So yeah, the tariff dispute has only
proven to be an opening skirmish in the test relationship
with that Mexico has developed since. After making similar tariff
threats in his first Trump declared victory pockets concessions on
immigration and largely left the country alone. This time around, however,
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there really have been going back and forth, particularly on
immigration policy. A cursory summary will be enough to paint
the picture. On March twenty first, the first time since
a treaty governing shared watersheds was signed in nineteen forty fourth,
the United States denied the Mexican request for water, in
this case for the city of Tijuana. After several months
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back and forth, and dispute was settled at the end
of April. On mainy eleventh, the United States announced the
suspension of livestock imports from Mexico due to the destruction
of the New World screwworm in the southwest of the country,
to the visible frustration of Agricultural Secretary Julio Barr de Guey,
who remuinded in the United States its failure to respond to
a request to assist in the northward march of the
pest when it resurfaced in Panama back in twenty twenty three,
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and as of this writing, this band remains in effect.
So they're kind of going tif for tat on all
these kind of agricultural and water matter. It's kind of
boring but very very important stuff. In early May, then
they took away the visa of a Moreno governor on
May sixteenth, in violation of any semblance of just normal
diplomatic behavior. The new ambassador, Ronald Johnson, spent his second
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day in the country just chumming it up with this
far right politician who's like, oh, it's my brothers, my
brother you know, posting on social media and all that stuff,
making it very very clear that this guy who is
a former Green Beret CIA agent and one of fifty
five advisors to the junta during the civil war and
El Salvador, you know that you may as well let
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a virus in your country if you're from Mexico's perspective,
you may as well just let's start a pandemic like
this is some awful stuff. This raised tensions even higher,
especially given Mexico government's let more left wing direction. Shortly
before the Trump mistration allowed seventeen members of the Guzman
crime family to enter the United States. Bailey, two months after,
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designated the Cineloa cartel, among others, a foreign terrorist organization,
as if to underscore for your designation could be used
to justify US military intervention in the country. Trump told
Chimebount in a phone call he'd be honored to go
in and help with the cartels.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
And offer she obviously refused.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
So it's like, you know, why did you let them
enter the United States if you're going to designate them
foreign terrorist organization. On May twenty, first House Republicans announced
a creation of an excise tax on remittances, part of
a larger plan to unload the cost of tax cuts
on to migrants. Shimunt blasted the plan as double taxation,
and an appearance in the city of San Luis, Potosi
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reached the possibility of domestic mobilizations to demonstrate opposition to
the measure. It can take a look, maybe that'll be
on a video for us, but I'm unfortunately she's speaking
there in Spanish. It looks like then. A Director of
Homeland Security, Christy Nome, who had received with an excess
of civility by President Steinbaum in the National Palace of March,
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took advantage of an out of context clip making the
rounds to claim that Schinebound was egging on violent protests
when she was in fact doing the opposite with to La.
This was too far even for Trump, and Ambassador Johnson
was tasked with walking it back. So again just complete belligerents, complete,
just like behaving like a drunken, obnoxious asshole. Is the
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kind of been in the United States entire position, frankly
towards Mexico since the start of this Trump term, But
there was no one back there to walk back to
the following incident. On June twelfth, in the context of
both the Los Angeles protests and the ongoing Trump and
threats to cancel the visas of anyone supporting any kind
of protests whatsoever, a member of the Moreno party for
the state of Hallisco posted and reverent tweet regarding her
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own visa. The tweet, fueled by righteous indignation to the
abuses of immigration and customs enforcement against those of Mexican
ancestry was similar to thousands of those that get punished
every day. Nevertheless, Deputy Secretary of State Christopher Landau, then
in the midst of a visit to Mexico, responded that
he had personally given the order to cancel the young
woman's visa in the process of revealing confidential information about
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it that is, for all diseased, just petulant bullying. Landau
followed up days later with an out of place rant
and response to a bland news bulletin published by a
university regarding opportunities in trade relations with China. So just
making every sort of excuse to demonized the poke, to
antagonize the Mexican government and the Mexican people as a whole.
By revealing the visa cancelations to be arbitrary and motivated
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by a little more than personal bio and peak, Landau
inadvertently undermined the Trump and midstitutians attempt to use them
as a pressure tactics, saying, if you're just gonna take
them away, why should we even bother trying to play
this game to try and get more of these visas.
The icing on the cake arrived on June twenty fifth
and hearing at the Senate Appropriation Subcommittee when Attorney General
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Pam Bondi asserted that the Trump mistration will keep America
safe not only from Iran, but from Russia, China, and
from Mexico from any foreign adversary, whether they're trying to
kill us physically or overdosing our children with drugs, and
that's something that you know they're really Claudia Scheinbaum was
not going to play this clip her where we'll put
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the subtitles on and then I will voice over what
they say. And this is in response to her saying
that Mexico is trying to pamboling. The Attorney general trying
to say that the Mexicans are trying to kill our
children by sending in feednol through their borders. But well
she's not very informed, to be honest. But Claudia, at
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some point they.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
Will defends and Marina command past command to security meaning
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held in in Washington February with the.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Friend respect between the This is inordinating without subordination, but.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
There is no there is no proof now we have
an ad, so that must mean the video is over. Uh,
there's no proof that Mexico is essentially trying to kill
our children with drugs. It's kind of ridiculous. Finally, President Schime,
MAM's long simmering patients was to run out. Following the day,
the US Department of Treasury, wielding the Federal Sanctions Act
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and the fend Off Fentyl Act, sanctioned three Mexican financial
institutions for being primary money laundering concerns. Sporting a more
combative tone in the morning past conference time, Mam challenge
the Treasury Department to send proof of the allegations, that is,
if it has any. We are not going to cover
a few. There is no impunity, but it has to
be demonstrated that there was money laundering, not with statements,
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but with conclusive evidence. You noted, our relationship with the
United States is one of equals, not of subordination. We
are no one's pinata. As the three institutions in question
see Banco, Intercombinco and vector Cosa de Bosa to significant
business with China.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
There you go. There.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
The Treasury Treasury's mover gave every appearance of being an
attempt to disrupt Siino Mexican relations under the guy's affectol
precursor tracing, which is something that they've been trying to
do forever. Is trying to interrupt Mexican and or interrupt
a lot of other people sovereignty in their ability to
do business as countries, uh, with whoever they want, because
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it just may not know, it may advantage, you know,
the US in some way. To be sure, Mexico is
hardly alone in being in the receiving end of such
treatment and setting the people of the world all over uh,
you know, with this more kind of vilet volatile relaunch
of trump Ism and in the face of his administrations
dogged determination to provoke reactions in order to justify it
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more AGGRESSI the response. In turn, Scheinaum's stubborn refusal to
be goaded has much to recommended. It is also important
to distinguish what in all of this is official policy,
and what, like the outbursts of the Gnomes, bodies and Landous,
may be instead the product of institutional disarray, personal toxicity, powerships,
and of course racism. That said, Scheinmaum's belated change in
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tone is likely reflective of a growing realization the imperial
antagonism cannot be impeded by charm and rational argumentation alone.
The current spate of bludgeting is simply an extension of
the primnial US assistance that Mexico has to come to heal,
and if it can do so without the messiness of
an unpopular military operation, all the better to then end.
Every tool in the kit will be tried out, official
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and unofficial slander, mediasmerrors, taxes, sanctions, border closings, vicent installations,
treaty disputes, all carefully calibrated to start small so that
they can be ramped up as needed, and all designed
moreover to backshrimount into a damned if you do provoking retaliation,
damned if you don't green light for further encroachment, no
win situation. This is the mind shinebou must avoid at
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all costs. The answer passes somewhere through popular mobilization, autonomous media,
strategic lines as sovereignty over court, economic sectors, and industrial policy,
and regional coordination, and fundamentally, a rejection of any kind
of naivete regarding US brinkmanship. Keeping one's head down is
no solution, nor is banking on the moderating efforts of
economic integration. Playing nice, especially with this administration. By the way,
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playing nice in short, is not going to make it
go away with the West is discreding themselves or in
the ongoing silence in Gaza. Mexico's voice is that is
one that is sorely needed on the international stage. As
the world's twelfth largest economy and a geographic bridge between
global North and South, it must find the voice to
stand up to the bully. And I think the things
that he lists here or I'm sorry, I don't know
who the gender he lists Kurt hack Barth is really
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quite interesting here. You have popular mobilization and some of
the Marina has been which is Shinbaum's party has done
really good job doing mobiles and the Vatican people autonomous media,
strategic alliances. I think that's what they're trying to do
with China, and I think that could be very very
important and influential and sovereignty overcourt, economic sectors, industrial policy,
and regional coordination. Building those alliances with people outside of
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the US, I think is going to be something that
is going to be so important for anyone else in
the country or anyone else in the world that is
a little bit fed up and not really trusting with
the fact that the US has their best interests at heart,
and saying, Okay, we need some sort of protection from
this crazy trumpest policy, otherwise we're going to be screwed
and our people are going to be worse off. So
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if I were, you know, the advisor to any one
of these countries, I would say, please, please please get
you know, have could get your own economic sectors locked down,
make yourself as self sufficient as possible. Do anything else,
do making alliance with China, making an alliance with people
in the Global South, making alliance with people in South America,
because the US is going to come and screw with you.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Again and again and again.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
And no trade deal, no sort of you know, economic integration,
no sort of you know, good good negotiation, no, no
sort of handshake is going to keep the Trump administration
off your back. I think that evidence. It's tough. It's
tough for countries that are a lot smaller and a
lot less powerful for the US to do. But I
think maybe, you know, they are slowly starting to finally
realize that there can be no security, there can be
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no real safety in continually continuously appeasing the US. Because
even if you get you know, reprieve with a few
years for kind of a democratic president that's a little
bit less antagonistic, you're going to get, you know, Trump
won't be around forever, but you're going to get someone
else that comes in is going to be that much
more antagonistic to you and that much more encroaching on
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your sovereignty. And you know, it's going to be really
interesting to see when and how countries finally realize that,
you know, no sort of appeasement is going to keep
the United States and some of its more rapacious policy
makers and poll the interests off of your back. If
you're a country like Mexico, but even if you're a
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country like China, if you're a country like Iran, if
you're a country like you know, anywhere else in the
world that has some sort of strategic interest in the
United States, you are going to have to figure out
ways to fend for yourself and work with each other
to do so. And that is what I think Claudia
Shaimam is beginning to figure out and really starting to
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lead the way on in Mexico. One of the most
interesting people in politics for sure. That is our show
for today. We will be back on Monday. Have a
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