July 8, 2025 • 44 mins
Also, the Trump admin covers up the Epstein case and a look into the weakness of the Democratic Party
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hell everyone, my name is Fence Walsh. We have a
good show for you today, as always a pretty crazy
one as well as Donald Trump, in a pretty remarkable
moment today, finally seemed to realize that Vladimir Putin isn't
really too interested in good faith negotiations about peace in Ukraine.
Today he is saying Ukraine will be getting more weapons,
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more defensive weapons, because they're getting hit quote really hard
by the Russians. And he kind of admitted that Putin
tells him a lot of nice things, but in reality
continues to keep the war going. Who could have predicted it?
Who could have seen that one coming? Right? Also, a
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really remarkable cover up completed by the Trump administry over
the weekend regarding the case of Jeffrey Epstein. After promising
that the file list was on her desk, the Epstein
client list was on her desk ready to be reviewed.
Trump's Attorney General Pam Bonnie now says there was no
client list whatsoever, no blackmail operation whatsoever. Just forget about
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the whole thing and move on. That is a message
of the Trump administration running the Jeffrey Epstein case today. Also,
really interesting new information coming out about the Democratic Party
and how they're almost getting pissed now that their own
base wants more from them in terms of the fight
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against Trump. I guess they weren't reading their own fundraising
emails that called Trump an existential threat to democracy, or
you know, paying attention to the news where their worst
predictions were largely proved right. Anyway, we'll break it down
all for you on today's episode of news Flash once again.
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All clips are gonna be available on YouTube at Spencer
Walsh YouTube channel. Go check him out and consider joining
the Supporters Club. Link to that in the description. Anyone
who really followed in any significant or insignificant way at
all the re election campaign for Donald Trump in twenty
twenty four, you kind of got one big message. It
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was that he was pretty darn serious about ending the wars,
at least he said in Gaza in Ukraine. It was
always gonna be kind of unbelievable in Gaza because of
his deep, deep ties and support for Israel throughout his
first administration and all the years in between. But it
did seem like, you know, with that tough, tough talk
towards do Lensky in the White House, when jad Vans
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yelled at him when Donald Trump yelled at him, when
even Republican Senator no name, administration in victuals were even
yelling at him on camera for not wearing a suit
and not being grateful enough to usl that he was
really trying to look to put the hammer down and
end the or in Ukraine, come hook or crook, essentially
just forcing Ukraine to make some sort of a settlement
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with the Russians. Well, two things have happened since then,
and one of them is that right before the peace talks,
Ukraine released that really insane drone attack where they had
five hundred dollars drones taking out millions of dollars millions
and millions of dollars worth of fighter jet equipment and
really sensitive equipment on Russian basis. And ever since then
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we have seen a real effort by Vladimir Putin and
the Russian Army to step up attacks deeper in the
Kiv and more intensive than they ever have been before.
So essentially what Putin's saying is, you know, yeah, I
know you want to see spire Trump, but you think
we're getting along great. I'm just gonna use what you
think is our great relationship to keep pushing the envelope
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and keep pushing Russian positions forward, even as you now
are taking support away from Ukraine. And even Trump has
gotten embarrassed by Putin one one too many times. His
humiliation kink has run out with regard to Vladimir Putins.
So this is the headline here in the Financial Times.
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Trump says the US will send Ukraine more arms if
panting On had held up critical critical weaponry over fears
that American stockpiles were running low, saying essentially, we can't
send you weapons when we're not sure we have enough
for ourselves. And of course that that excuse doesn't work
for for the real gold tier, the real platinum tier
US client states like Israel. But for Ukraine, they were
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they were stuck with the uh, wait and see package
and when it comes to being a US client state,
unfortunately for them. But here's what Trump had to say
in the reversal of his decision, which again it is
it is so kind of hard to take seriously a
lot of the stuff that Trump says on this ward
because he's going really anything, you know, terror policy, don't
think we couldn't even cover today. But it's also in
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the news. It shows how completely he unserious and undirectional
he is about any sort of broad grand plan. Just
when you think, oh, he's backing down, Oh he's making
this bad decision, he essentially reverses it and it does
something completely new.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
We're going to send some more weapons.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
We have to.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
They have to be able to defend themselves. They're getting
hit very hard. Now they're getting hit very hard. We're
gonna have to send more weapons. You have defensive weapons primarily,
but they're getting hit very, very hard. So many people
are dying in that mess.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yeah, so there you have it. So many people are
dying in that mess, he says. And he is becoming
increasingly clear, at least this is the headline in the
New York Times, where is it here that Trump is
increasingly making clear that Putin is impeding the peace deal
that he wants to make. President Trump stepped up his
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criticism in President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia on Tuesday,
accusing him of duplicity a day after saying Ukraine needed
more weapons again to defend itself against Russia's invasion. And
this is kind of a pretty funny quote. He says,
we got a lot of bullshit thrown us by Putin.
But if you want to know the truth, Trump told
reporters during a cabinet meeting, he's very nice to us
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all the time, but it turns out to be meaningless.
Oh oh no, no shit. You know, you know, he's
not somebody who is trying to flatter you without taking
care of his own interests. He has his own interests,
and he's not an idiot. He sees that you're weak.
You know. He may have been behaving irrationally in terms
of getting involved with the war in Ukraine, but he
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sees that the White House is incredibly weak. It has
no sort of firm direction. It's no sort of policy
guiding him at the top when it comes to administration
that actually knows what it wants to do. So it's saying, oh,
you know, what is this administration? We respond to. It's flattery,
it's getting you know, it's saying all the right things.
It's making you know, nice gestures to President Trump. And
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that's exactly what they've been doing. They've been saying, oh,
we we care about ending this war. We want to
end this war. They don't care about ending the war.
They want to use Trump as much as they possibly
can to get as much as they possibly can from
the Ukrainians, and only when that becomes in terms of
the cost benefit analysis it costs too much to keep
going versus the benefit of getting a cease f deal,
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then they will agree to a ceasefire deal. And as
somebody who has taken a real one sided approach being in,
somebody being you know, the American government, the American policy positions,
they have completely fought for one side of the war,
it is going to be very very hard for them
to kind of step in and be a mediator. That's
why you need, you know, maybe I don't know, some
sort of other country to come in and kind of
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objectively mediate because it's very hard to be fighting in
the war on one side, essentially as a proxy conflict
for kind of a Ukraine or Ukraine kind of being
caught in the middle of the United States trying to
stop Russia's ambitions of a legal expansion. You know, it's
going to be very hard for them to for a
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settlement on this from the United States perspective, because you
know of exactly what's been happening over the past six
seven months at this point, So what is going to
be very interesting to see is what will happen now
is you know, they kind of realize this. You know,
we got a lot of bullshit thrown at us, if
you want to know the truth. But he's very nice
to us all the time, but it turns out to
be meaningless. Now that Trump has realized that, what is
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he gonna do. Is he gonna continue with the Biden
policy of just supporting Ukraine to a dead end, you know,
and supporting them as more and more men get slaughtered,
more and more resources are burned. Or is he going
to try and reach some sort of negotiated settlement through
some sort of cooperation with a mediator, but that actually
comes with the threat of increased US backing to achieve
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a common goal, there was no realistic goal that was
set out to be achieved, and I think it's such
an important thing by the US government towards the Ukrainian government.
They said, we're gonna get back every single inch, way
way away before anyone with two brain cells up together,
or story way way after anyone with two brain cells
trow up together. Knew that would be a really tough
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goal to achieve and a very unrealistic goal given the
US political climate, given the state of Ukraine after years
and years of war, it was always going to be
something that's very tough. If they can get this to
a better negotiated settlement than they would have otherwise with
increased US support, I think that is going to be
a big victory. Trump has increasingly suggested here that Putin
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has become impediment to the peace deal that he is seeking.
The President said Monday the United States was resuming munition
shipments to Ukraine to help fend off Russia's invasion. Just
last week, the White House acknowledged that the administration had
paused the delivery of some air defense interceptors and precision
guided bombs and missiles to Ukraine, setting Pentagon concerns the
US weapons stockpiles were dwindling. Notably, Trump refused to say
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on Tuesday whether he knew in advance about the pause
on munition shipments. While seated besides his Defense Secretary Pete Hexas,
Trump was repeatedly pressed about who ordered the pause, and
he said, I don't know. Why don't you tell me?
So we probably had no literally had no idea, and
that was, you know, some decision that he maybe was
told about. But then very briefly signed on, like the
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important thing to understand is this man is not clued
in when it comes to his own White House on
very very many key, key policy decisions. We're not happy
with Putin. I'm not happy with Putin. I can tell
you that right now, because he's killing a lot of people.
Trump said at another point Putin. He said that Putin
was not treating human beings right, and the Russian president
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was killing too many people. So we're setting some defensive
weapons to Ukraine. The big question is going to be again,
what happens now? How do they respond to this situation?
How do they respond to this big grand realization that, oh,
you know, the United States or is not going to
have a perfect friend, you know, with Vladimir Putin, who
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is deeply, deeply interested in seeking peace, and they're not
going to have as you know, as they well know,
and they've been accusing Zelensky of, they're not going to
have a perfect, you know, selfless friend in Ukraine either.
You know, they're gonna have people who are trying to
get their own interests achieved in the country, in their
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own country, whether it be for the defense of their
very homeland, like Ukraine, or whether it be for an
illegal war of territorial expansion like Russia. But there has
to be some solution that has come to and I
think it's it's been very clear. I can't see at
this point any sort of way for the US to
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regain credibility, regain authority in the peace negotiations without some
sort of a you know, maybe Turkey could step in
as they have in the past, without some sort of
influence from an outside mediator, because you know, they've just
been going all over the place. They have no clear
position now they're going back towards Ukraine. They haven't set
out any sort of clear proposal for what a permanent
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or more permanent piece could look like. And I think
without any of those things, and without any sort of
clear strategic leadership, and without any of the credibility that
a neutral arbiter would have that didn't support one side
of the war for pretty much the entire war, you know,
I think it's gonna be very very hard to achieve
the peace deal that Donald Trump wants so so much,
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or at least he says he does, And you know,
for him to be able to and for the Americans
to be able to take in any way credit for it.
So bottom line is, now Trump seems to realize that
he's kind of been fooled here by Vadimir Putin. But
the real question is what the hell is he going
to do about it now. One of the biggest, biggest
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things I think that you can say that Donald Trump
had going for him was, especially in twenty twenty four,
was his promise to really shake things up right. He
was going to blow a lot of the state streak
secrets open, from you know, nine to eleven JFK to MLK,
all these classiflack files that a lot of people had
been asking about releasing, but no more so than Jeffrey Epstein.
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He was a kind of disgraced financier. He had all
these connections to all these very very elite people. He
gets off on a kind of plead deal with back
in two thousand and eight that was actually done by
Trump's labor secretary, who, when he was being hired for
the position of Trump's labor secretary, tells the Trump transition
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team that he was told to give Epstein the sweetheart
deal because quote, he belonged to intelligence. As a direct
quote from at the time, he goes through he is
out of prison in thirteen months, he's inviting the girls
into the prison, He's getting insane amount of work release.
He's assimily goes on Scott to free until he's arrested
again back in July of twenty nineteen, where everyone kind
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of really finds out about him, including myself for the
first time. We hear about all these tapes, these famous
name plus girl's name of all this black man, all
this weird stuff that he has in his apartments, cameras
set up the baby oil. It's like a you know,
pre ditty. It's like a kind of a white version
of a white banker version of didty uh that that
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has taken place? And you know, so many people are implicated,
from you know, the Israeli Prime Minister a Hooparack, to
the Prince Andrew of the British royal family, to Donald Trump,
to Bill Clinton, really Bill Clinton as well, you know
Kevin Spacey. Even there's pictures of so many people on
that jet. There's a really really insane amount of times.
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And then of course he dies by suicide. And yet
all this, all these excuses, the guards were asleep, they
just worked overtime shifts. It was. It was really really
crazy for them to keep up with everything. And of
course the cameras were off too, they were they were
malfunctioning right at the minute of his death. So you know,
it really, really really was kind of a crazy, crazy situation,
and conspiracy theories that were pretty well evidenced, I should say,
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kind of flew around and have been flying around for
a while a while. And it really was a big
part of the Trump campaign. You had Trump coming out
trying to promise, promise to declassify a lot of the stuff.
He would be the change maker, he would be the
difference maker. He would come out and do this, he
would shake things up, and he would tell the truth
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about the Epstein files. But this was caught by Breaking Points,
a wonderful YouTube news show at the time, and it
kind of shows you that he might not have been
as serious as he would have wanted his supporters to believe.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Is to declassify things that everyone's talking about it and he
talked earlier about I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
So if you were president, would you declassify.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
You can answer yes or not this, would you declassify.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
The nine to eleven files?
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, would you declassify JFK files.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah, which you did, I did a lot of it.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Would you declassify the Epstein files? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, I would. All right, I guess I would. I
think that less so because you know, you don't know
if you don't want to affect people's lives of its
phony stuff in there, because it's a lot of phony
stuff with that whole world.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
So the funny thing about that was for the TV audience,
Fox pause it after he said yes, yes, I think
I would, and not before he goes into the whole
thing about I don't want to screw up anyone's lives innocently.
I don't want to. You know, there's a lot of
whatever the hell that means, and you know, you get it.
It becomes pretty clear after he's elected, you know, after
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this clip is edited, and you know, after the TV
audience of Fox gets a completely different picture from the
much smaller online audience about Trump's true intentions when it
comes to prosecuting Epstein and figuring out what the hell happened. Uh,
because of this kind of edited clip where Fox puts out, oh,
he's gonna say he's gonna do it, but he doesn't.
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They don't put in on the TV side all these qualifications.
We see this new report kind of coming out and
these whole things where they give this you know, huge
dossier of files that have you've been released to these
Magga influencers that purde them out like oh we got
these big files, but there's no new revelations. And then
we get this kind of a really hilarious, frankly interview
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from Cash Pattel, and I'm gonna give you a little
treat here because we're gonna to play Tim Dillon reacting
to this interview with Cash Mittel, who was the FBI
director that everybody thought was going to break it all open,
was going to be the change agent, was going to
expose the establishment on Epstein. And this is, you know,
a few months ago, pretty deep into the Trump administration,
when the FBI essentially has already come out and made
(17:34):
the claim, by the way, Cash Battel is the FBI director,
that oh, yeah, he died by suicide. You know, we're
going to prove that he died by suicide in the
coming weeks. This is how he phrased it, as Tim
Dilan reacts to it on his show.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Get This, Cash Pattel up on Rogan Cash Patel by
the way, I mean this. This guy's the director of
the FBI. He's dressed. Now, people go, Jim, you dress crazy?
What am I doing? What the hell am I doing?
This guy's the head of the FBI. He's dressed like
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he's going to big his.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Kids up at school.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
I mean, I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
The guy's ahead of the FBI. This is the biggest
podcast in the world. He's there an Athleisure, he's in
like Lulu Lemon Athleisure. Why they can't put the Epstein
stuff out because it will revictimize the women?
Speaker 1 (18:30):
What about the video from the.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
Island that's sorry so you're talking about yeah so sorry
so yeah so again. We're going to give you everything
we can, and people, let me.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Let me explain you, Let me explain you, Let me explain.
You can't find someone better at lying than this. You
can't find someone better at lying than this.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Has this guy practiced.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
We're gonna give you everything we can, and people have
to remember, we're not gonna revictimize women. What We're not
gonna put that ship back after it's not happening, because
then he wins not doing it. You want to hate
me for it? Fine, again, blur the women. If there
was a video, what it's not that Formiden, it's the
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craziest thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Were just blur to the women. Let's just blur them. Yeah,
I mean it's it's completely blurs and is literally beg
beggars all belief in this in this situation here, Like
he comes in, he's not looking serious at all. He's
saying all this, He's trying to be a tough Guy's like,
I'm not gonna revictim bias the women, but just like,
there is so much other data that you could put
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out there without revictimizing the women that is incredibly, incredibly
important to this situation. You know, it is a really
really sketchy, sketchy situation, and it was it was really
kind of in the making for quite a long time.
This video I think came out what June seventh, so
literally a month ago. This came before the FBI century
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had already come out and said we're not going to
feed into these conspiracies. He died of suicide. You know,
it's not a big deal. Stopped making such a big
deal out of it, but it but bah, and then
you know, you have this ridiculous cash hotel clip and
then you have it all official Pam Bondi, Jeffrey Epstein's
client list does not exist. That's what she says.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I'm Christy in Washington tonight, the apparent end to a
story many did not expect. The Department of Justice and FBI,
in a new memo, states, after an exhaustive review into
the case of convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, they found
no evidence of blackmail, no client list, and nothing suspicious
about his death. But some simply aren't buying it.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
So they released all these eleven hours of footage, and
the one minute video is still missing from the tape.
It's really, really is incredible, mind blowing stuff, and it
just it seems like it just in the way he
was and the Trump minstration just in the way that
Biden's administration continued it. They're essentially laughing at the American
people who want to know any sort of truth about
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this and say, oh, yeah, just give you the most
ridiculous possible explanations and be like, what the hell are
you gonna do about it? Are you going to go
through the files? Are you gonna join the FBI and
you know, do a better job than Cash. Buttel did
of exposing the truth here, Like, let's go back there.
It's just so ridiculous. Let's take a look at this
guy again.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
Logical playout if there was a video of some guy
or gal committing felonies, but that is and I'm in charge,
don't you think you'd see it?
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Yes, But that's that's why everyone's confused. Yeah, that's why
everyone's confused. Like you're the supposedly the guy who was
gonna be who's gonna be releasing all this stuff. And
it's like, you know, don't you think I'd put that
shit out there if it was there? Like, clearly not,
because we know it's there. We've seen from the Justice
Department reports and sources saying that there are names out
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or tapes out there with famous person name plus girl
name labeled on the tape, and all of a sudden,
that stuff doesn't even exist. It really is remarkably, remarkably disingenuous,
and it's gonna I think it's going to cause a
lot of people's brains to break just that much more.
You know, I was always kind of following this case,
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but I knew it was very, very unlikely that we'd
ever get some sort of permanent resolution. We never get
anywhere close to the truth of the matter, which I
think is going to be you know, escaping us for
quite a while longer. But there was a lot of
people who put their hopes legitimately in cash betel in
Trump when they they'd already made it so clear in
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the clips that just showed you they were never really
interest did in solving any of this stuff. But now,
especially with the suicide, you know, you can think whatever
you want to about that, but the suicide and one
of the most prominent Epstein victims of Virginia, Drew Frey,
you know, the trail could not be more cold. And
it's gonna cause, you know, people aren't gonna forget about
this stuff. Their evidence is still going to be there,
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but it's just going to be another nail in the
coffin in terms of the incredible disconnect now that's happening
between the governing class and the governent when it comes
to basic basic tenets of credibility, like did you were
you part of a mass child trafficking ring? You know,
like it was a very very big deal here. It again,
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let's take a look at this this clip here going
over the most recent reporting in this memo from the
Bondie Department of Justice on what.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Really happened with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. It's been
political theater from day one.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
The list of clients that went to the island has
not been made public.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yeah, it's it's very interesting, isn't It Probably will be,
so if you're able to, you'll be Yeah, certainly take
a look at it.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
In February, conservative influencers given quote unclassified binders on the
matter at the White House, which mostly contained information already
made public. Now the Department of Justice says the curtain
has closed. Despite this revelation earlier this.
Speaker 7 (24:31):
Year, the DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey
Epstein's clients. Will that really happen?
Speaker 8 (24:37):
It's sitting on my desk right.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Now to review now. Attorney General Pam Bondi's Justice Department
says there was no incriminating client list. A new memo
states there was also no credible evidence found that Epstein
blackmailed prominent individuals as part of his actions, also that
Epstein did indeed commit suicide in his jail cell at
the Metropolitan correc Actional Center in New.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
York, again with sheets that were so paper thin in
this special wing of the facility that they would have
been impossible to conduct or construct a noose with, Like
it was a so many flaws in this plan, so
many clear, very questionable points here, like so many red
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flags with this plan. But none of them are going
to be addressed. None of them. We're going to be
addressed by the people, by the way, who promised to
address them. And here's now how they are trying to
kind of cope with it and trying to explain it
to their people who were really expecting this when they're
asked about this. In a press conference today, Trump even
flipped out at the reporter for even asking about Epstein.
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Now that you know the reports done, the cover ups out,
let's just get it done with Jane.
Speaker 9 (25:49):
Jeffrey Epstein lets some lingering mysteries of One of the
biggest ones is whether he ever worked for an American
or foreign intelligence agency. The former Leader secretary, who was
Miami US attorney Alex Costa I, allegedly said that he
did work for intelligence agency.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yep.
Speaker 9 (26:09):
You resolved whether or not he did, and also can
you say why there was a minute missing from the
jail house team.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
On the Yeah, are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?
This guy's been talked about for years. You're asking we
have Texas, we have this, we have all of the
things right, and are people still talking about this guy?
This creep that is unbelievable?
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Do you want to So it's like that's the first
part of this is just completely insane. It's just like,
you're still talking about this. We were done with it,
Come on, let's move on. Like if that was a
democratic leader, that was a Democratic president coming out of
saying that, you're just scholding people for even asking about questions,
people in MAGA would have spontaneous heart attacks and explode
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from being so shocked and scandalized about it. But because again,
because it's Trump, they're either going to have their brains
broken further or they're just gonna say, oh, yeah, why
are we still talking about it? Let's move on. It's
no big deal. You know, it really really is an
incredible in your face fu to a lot of his
supporters even that were genuinely interested in finding the truth
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about this, but they were just stupid enough to trust
a guy like Donald Trump who has tons and tons
of elite ties, no sort of political will or drive
or desire to do anything, and was so clearly obviously
going to sell them out on this from day one.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
I want to waste the time and do you feel
like answering.
Speaker 8 (27:40):
I don't mind answering.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on
at Epstein at a time like this, where with having
some of the.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Great support that weekend. It's really crazy what happened in Texas.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
It just seems like a desecration, but.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
You go ahead a desecration.
Speaker 8 (27:57):
To back up on that, in February, I didn't interview
on Fox and it's been getting a lot of attention
because I said, I was asking a question about the
client list, and my response was it's sitting on my
desk to be reviewed, meaning the file along with the
JFK MLK files as well. That's what I meant by that.
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Also to the tens of thousands of video they turned
out to be child porn downloaded by that disgusting Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
And by the way, we can go back to that
clip that we just saw. She says, The Fox shows asked,
are you going to release the client list? And she says,
it's sitting on my desk ready to review. There's nothing
about a broad file. The question wasn't about a broad file.
It was about the Jeffrey Epstein client list that she
supposedly waiting there to review. And even if it was,
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even if that was the case, just be like, we're
so sorry. We can't even believe that we got caught
up in this. We don't want to victimize everyone. We
are totally in the like. There was no addressing the
fact that they were the ones setting the stage for this,
only to completely u turn reverse course and let everybody
who was legitimately asking questions that were legitimate questions down
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in a big way by essentially flipping up and switching
up on this whole story.
Speaker 8 (29:20):
Childborn is what they were never going to be released,
never going to see the lighted day to him being
an agent. I have no knowledge about that. We can
get back to you on that. And the minute missing
from the video. We released the video showing definitively the
video was not conclusive, but the evidence prior to it
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was showing he committed suicide. And what was on that
there was a minute that was off the counter. And
what we learned from Bureau of Prisons was every year,
every night they redo that video as old from like
nineteen ninety nine, So every night the video is reset
and every night should have the same minute missing. So
we're looking for that video to release that as well,
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showing that a minute is missing every night. And that's
it on Epstein.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
That's it on Epstein. You know you're you're getting the
idea there really really incredible stuff like as I think,
just completely unintelligible there her answer on the the agent
question and especially on the Bureau Prisons question, because it's like,
wouldn't this be a fact that's completely verifiable that every
Bureau of Prisons camera turns off for one minute and
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a night as a matter of custom, it's a standard
procedure to kind of reset the story or whatever the
hell she was saying. Shouldn't this be very easily provable?
Like it's not going to calm anyone down. You know,
you have Alex Jones over here, who's crying and he's
threatening to puke after Epstein had his list covered up stake,
listen to this, it's all funny.
Speaker 7 (30:50):
Oh look, Alex is sad Magus turned itself apart. Your
globalist masters literally want you to eat bugs and living
a five g twitterd square foot coffee apartment. Look at
the left, Look at them all sposingdizer shots looking like
dead zombies. I mean, come on, you guys are sick,
and so you shouldn't look at those of us that
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have a soul still and have integrity in paying over
this and celebrate you dumb pieces of fucking shit.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
So no, Maga's brains are going to continue to be
broken about it. But the bottom line is there is
a clear cover up here. The Trump administration can promised
to do something about it, promised to bring it into
the light, to be the exposers of truth. They failed
that completely. And the only question nowt is going to
see who on Manga's brains break and they realize that
(31:41):
Trump is full of shit on this and a lot
of other things. Maybe, and who is gonna say Epstein
what Epstein? We never knew about Epstein Epstein files. Well,
the case is closed, We're moving on. There's so many
other things to talk about, Like we got a big,
beautiful bill, Like it's just all this stuff completely going
into the Trump my and bought. The brain ship will
(32:02):
be switched out essentially, and they'll go back to repeating
whatever prior talking points that were before. But bottom line
is again complete, complete cover up and the MAGA world
really in disarray over this. But you can't say you
didn't see it coming given the history of who Donald
Trump is. I don't know if you remember pretty big
(32:25):
part of the twenty sixteen through twenty twenty five, these
kind of nine years that we've been dealing with Donald
Trump in politics. A big part of the Democrats attacks
against him is that he is this kind of fundamental
threat there has been imposes a big threat to the
continued functioning of America as we currently know and love
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it to this day. And they've they've been alarmist at times.
I think maybe in the first term I thought they
were a little too alarmist for the reality of the situation.
But in the second term, I think a lot of
their warnings have proved to be pretty correct. And I
think the really incredible thing that we're seeing now in
axios Is had a whole article about it today, is
(33:10):
that they're getting annoyed that their own base is taking
their rhetoric seriously. Democrats apparently. This is the headline Democrats
told to quote get shot unquote for the anti Trump resistance. House.
Democrats told Axios they're seeing a growing anger among their
base that has in some cases morphed into a disregard
for American institutions, political traditions, and even the rule of
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a law. How much more awful can you get to that?
So it's like, where do you think they got the idea,
maybe from the last ten years of American politics that
none of these things, these political norms and institutions, is
rule of law. None of it means anything unless you
have people there to enforce it. And I think that
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was a big part of, at least in the first
Rump term, who Democratic base thought that their leaders were.
They thought they were the ones enforcing the rule of law.
They thought they were the ones kind of standing up
for decency, standing up for common civility against Trump. And
you know, they had their impulses. They voted for Bernie
(34:16):
Sanders in pretty big numbers in twenty in the twenty
twenty primary, but they were taken in by the democratically.
They were given a little sit down and said, hey, listen,
you know, Bernie Sanders is too radical. He's not going
to defeat Trump. Trust Joe Biden to defeat Trump. You know,
he's going to be the one who, and with our
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full backing, is going to responsibly, civilly come in and
send Trump packing back tomorrow. Ago, Well, I want to
bring in this second article here. This is from the
White House correspondent Tyler Pager the New York Times that
essentially says how the insolerity of the Biden campaign and
everyone essentially pretending within the Biden campaign to the world,
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to each other, you know, just in this kind of
circle of denial and delusion that everything was okay, everything
was fine, there was no cause for any sort of concern.
And you know, not only that, but that kind of
inner delusion was fed by a much wider delusion throughout
the Democratic Party that was insistent on telling the base
(35:20):
that not only was Joe Biden fine, but throughout his
term and throughout the twenty twenty four re election campaign
that Biden would be the best person to stop Trump.
You know, I think that really deluded a lot of
people toward the Democratic Party, and it it was it
really showed a lot of people that you can't trust
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a lot of Democratic voters that you can't trust these
people anymore to be effective resistance forces towards Trump. You know,
it talks about here in the debate and how that
was a kind of major turning point and a lot
of the incelerity within the staff. But what about leading
up to the debate, what about had did anyone try
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and get in contact with Biden? You know Pelosi talked
about back in twenty twenty one. You know, it came
out later, much much later. I don't even think she
really even talked about it. How out of it he
was in his congressional meeting in twenty twenty one, which
is the only time since then he's talked to or
when he was in office, at least Joe Biden talked
to his congressional daft like he was completely out to
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launch this entire time. Pelosi knew it, Obama knew it,
All these Democratic leaders knew it, but they just were,
you know, a combination of didn't want to upset people,
They didn't want to rock the boat, and they didn't
want the consequences of putting in another option of having
an open primary, And they all the whiles said that
we are the ones in charge were the adults in
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the room or putting up Joe Biden to stop Trump.
End of story. And of course that failed completely, you know,
and Donald Trump got in office despite all the Democrats
warnings and despite the reality of the situation on the
ground about the nature of trump Ism and who Donald
Trump turned out to be, especially with the insane radicalism
(37:08):
of his second term. And now what we're seeing is
Democrats are not being trusted anymore to lead things forward.
They're not being trusted to have the best answers all
the time to get the kind of fight towards the trumpdministration.
And they're certainly not being trusted if they say things
(37:29):
like you know, there's a sense of fear and despair
and anger that puts us in a different position where
we can't keep following the norms of decorum, Like how
is this surprised to you that you can't keep following
the norms of decoram It just shows you that again,
these people are not trusted by the Democratic base based
on the calls they're getting and the fact that they're
whining about it to Axios. On the other hand, so
(37:50):
is that they're very much right to not be trusted
by the Democratic base, like these are the same people
that supported Joe Biden all the way through. And you know,
there's more articles coming out by the week, by the
month about how awful of decision that was. And now
they have the temerity, they have the goal to come
and complain to these kind of insider DC publications that
(38:10):
they aren't getting enough credit for, you know, kind of
respectfully opposing Trump and sticking to the norms and the
rules of politics. Well, of course you're not getting enough
credit because it led to a second Trump. This strategy,
this Democratic elite strategy, led to a second Trump term
in the first place, and it's not doing jack to
stop the abuses of Trump now. It clearly is a
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complete failure. From months, Democrats have fumed their basis demands
to fight harder misunderstand the lack of legislative and investigative
power afford to the minority in Congress. We've got people
who are desperately wanting us to do something, no matter
what we say, they want more, said Representative Brad Schneinder
of Illinois. The charity of the center left New Democratic
Coalitions is kind of centrist corporate democrat. Liberal voters have
(38:53):
angrily accosted Democrats at town halls for, in their view,
not doing enough to counter President Trump's agenda. In response,
some Democrats have tried to up the anty, heckling Trump,
mounting rogue impeachment attempts, and getting tackled by law enforcement
and even indicted in their efforts to scrutinize their president's
deportation campaign, you know, which I think is a kind
(39:14):
of a good start, especially some of the indictments. But
the fact that they're you know, showing up these facilities
is a good start, because again, it's not like they're
doing anything crazy. They're essentially using their own rights to
conduct congressional oversight on these ice facilities, and it's Ice
who is taking the extraordinary steps to arrest and detain
them for obstruction. You know, these are not normal times.
(39:36):
This is not a time where you can win the
day with civility and appeals to the status quo. Not
only is the Trump administration gonna say screw you, get
out of here, give you a big slap on the face,
the base is gonna say that too, because they know
it doesn't work, and they know it doesn't work the
hard way, because you lie to them about it. You
were the ones who said, oh, if we just nominated
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Joe a bid and if you just trust does we'll
get things sorted out. If you just trust us to
make a good speech in Congress, if you just trust
us to write a strongly worded letter to Trump or
whatever thing like that they like to do nowadays, a
chrut numor strategy, things will get better. People are starting
to realize that they are not going to get better.
You don't need to get shot to make a difference.
(40:19):
You just need to use your powers. You need to
use everything that you have at your disposal. This is
another thing here, this thing about the spectacle, and this
is what there. It's yeah, it's like the Roman Colisey,
and people just want more and more of the spectacle,
said a seventh lawmaker. It's like, yeah, you if you
(40:41):
can't give the administrative power. If you can't you don't
have the legislative power, you don't have to investigative power,
which you should try and use as much as you can.
And that's why it's good to, you know, show up
to these ice facilities to conduct to exercise your congressional
right to oversite. If you're a democratic lawmaker. You know
you're not gonna be able to do everything, so why
not do everything you can with your bully pulpit, with
(41:03):
your media power, with your messaging strategy. As a politician,
messaging actually is an important part of their job. Believe
it or not, Democrats, it just gets get me worked
up here, But messaging is an important part of the
job too. If you can't don't have the legated power,
why not do the spectacle. Why not go to extraordinary
lanes to mobilize your base around the idea that they
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already believe that these policies suck and actually present a
broader future, present a broader plan. And actually, and I
think it's a big reason why zoramm Donnie wins a one.
He didn't have to convince people that he cared about
the stuff that they care about. It showed through his
every action. It showed through when he yelled at Tom
Holman about the detentions of New Yorkers and his immigration policy.
(41:47):
Like he is one of the Democratic base, he is
one of the people that's pissed off. You don't have
to kind of push him into it. You're gonna give
him a little nudge and say, hey, we're pissed off
over here. He gets it already. I think it's a
really really big thing that Democrats are missing, even these voters,
these many lawmakers said, these voters tend to be white,
well educated, and live in upscale urban or suburban neighborhoods,
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which essentially is a kind of code word here to say, oh,
don't listen to them. Their opinions don't reflect the you know,
the average American here. But it's play that game at
your own peril. Because twenty one percent of Biden twenty
twenty voters turned away from Harris in twenty twenty four,
they lost a huge chunk of their base. And if
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you want to do with twenty percent, even if they're all,
you know, kind of rich white people in the suburbs,
if you want to throw them away, be my guest.
But you know, I don't think that's a really good
electoral strategy. And something tells me it's not just them
that are pissed off by the Trump Mistration's policies. So
it really really is quite incredible to do this stuff.
(42:55):
And this is what I really love here. What I've
seen is a demand that we get ourselves arrested intentionally
or allow ourselves to be victims of violence. And a
lot of times that's coming from economically very secure white people.
Said in eight House Democrat, not only would that be
a gift to Donald Trump, but not only would it
make the job of the Republicans in Congress easier if
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we were all married in legal troubles, we are a
group that is disproportionately people of color, women and LGBTQ people,
people who do not very very well in prison. It's like, like,
are you kidding You're members of Congress. You're literally members
of Congress. You could not be more privileged if you
want to think they're gonna shove a member of Congress
(43:35):
in prison for ten years. No, they're just saying, get
arrest of all your protesting and get home in time
for dinner. You know, like that is all they're asking.
You just get for an idea that people care, that
their lawmakers care about the things that are happening to them.
You know, the things are happening to this country. And
that is just the Democrats will, clearly, and this is
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what they're showing here, they will use every rhetorical trick
in the book, every strategic leak to axios to try
indent that pressure before they actually do anything. And I
really think going forward, that makes twenty twenty six, especially
the twenty twenty six primary cycle on the Democratic Party side,
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very very interesting because they're like these two mindsets of
go out and get shot and resist Trump and let's
just go back to the way things used to be,
let's play by the rules, let's focus on the norms
and all that kind of stuff. You know, those two
things cannot coexist forever. Something has to give, and I
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don't think that base anger is going to be dissipating
anytime soon. That's all we got for you on today's show.
Remember all of the clips and the segments from today's
show will be on YouTube, and we will be back
on the air on Friday. Thank you very much,
Hell everyone, my name is Fence Walsh. We have a
good show for you today, as always a pretty crazy
one as well as Donald Trump, in a pretty remarkable
moment today, finally seemed to realize that Vladimir Putin isn't
really too interested in good faith negotiations about peace in Ukraine.
Today he is saying Ukraine will be getting more weapons,
(00:36):
more defensive weapons, because they're getting hit quote really hard
by the Russians. And he kind of admitted that Putin
tells him a lot of nice things, but in reality
continues to keep the war going. Who could have predicted it?
Who could have seen that one coming? Right? Also, a
(00:56):
really remarkable cover up completed by the Trump administry over
the weekend regarding the case of Jeffrey Epstein. After promising
that the file list was on her desk, the Epstein
client list was on her desk ready to be reviewed.
Trump's Attorney General Pam Bonnie now says there was no
client list whatsoever, no blackmail operation whatsoever. Just forget about
(01:21):
the whole thing and move on. That is a message
of the Trump administration running the Jeffrey Epstein case today. Also,
really interesting new information coming out about the Democratic Party
and how they're almost getting pissed now that their own
base wants more from them in terms of the fight
(01:42):
against Trump. I guess they weren't reading their own fundraising
emails that called Trump an existential threat to democracy, or
you know, paying attention to the news where their worst
predictions were largely proved right. Anyway, we'll break it down
all for you on today's episode of news Flash once again.
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All clips are gonna be available on YouTube at Spencer
Walsh YouTube channel. Go check him out and consider joining
the Supporters Club. Link to that in the description. Anyone
who really followed in any significant or insignificant way at
all the re election campaign for Donald Trump in twenty
twenty four, you kind of got one big message. It
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was that he was pretty darn serious about ending the wars,
at least he said in Gaza in Ukraine. It was
always gonna be kind of unbelievable in Gaza because of
his deep, deep ties and support for Israel throughout his
first administration and all the years in between. But it
did seem like, you know, with that tough, tough talk
towards do Lensky in the White House, when jad Vans
(02:46):
yelled at him when Donald Trump yelled at him, when
even Republican Senator no name, administration in victuals were even
yelling at him on camera for not wearing a suit
and not being grateful enough to usl that he was
really trying to look to put the hammer down and
end the or in Ukraine, come hook or crook, essentially
just forcing Ukraine to make some sort of a settlement
(03:07):
with the Russians. Well, two things have happened since then,
and one of them is that right before the peace talks,
Ukraine released that really insane drone attack where they had
five hundred dollars drones taking out millions of dollars millions
and millions of dollars worth of fighter jet equipment and
really sensitive equipment on Russian basis. And ever since then
(03:29):
we have seen a real effort by Vladimir Putin and
the Russian Army to step up attacks deeper in the
Kiv and more intensive than they ever have been before.
So essentially what Putin's saying is, you know, yeah, I
know you want to see spire Trump, but you think
we're getting along great. I'm just gonna use what you
think is our great relationship to keep pushing the envelope
(03:49):
and keep pushing Russian positions forward, even as you now
are taking support away from Ukraine. And even Trump has
gotten embarrassed by Putin one one too many times. His
humiliation kink has run out with regard to Vladimir Putins.
So this is the headline here in the Financial Times.
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Trump says the US will send Ukraine more arms if
panting On had held up critical critical weaponry over fears
that American stockpiles were running low, saying essentially, we can't
send you weapons when we're not sure we have enough
for ourselves. And of course that that excuse doesn't work
for for the real gold tier, the real platinum tier
US client states like Israel. But for Ukraine, they were
(04:33):
they were stuck with the uh, wait and see package
and when it comes to being a US client state,
unfortunately for them. But here's what Trump had to say
in the reversal of his decision, which again it is
it is so kind of hard to take seriously a
lot of the stuff that Trump says on this ward
because he's going really anything, you know, terror policy, don't
think we couldn't even cover today. But it's also in
(04:54):
the news. It shows how completely he unserious and undirectional
he is about any sort of broad grand plan. Just
when you think, oh, he's backing down, Oh he's making
this bad decision, he essentially reverses it and it does
something completely new.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
We're going to send some more weapons.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
We have to.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
They have to be able to defend themselves. They're getting
hit very hard. Now they're getting hit very hard. We're
gonna have to send more weapons. You have defensive weapons primarily,
but they're getting hit very, very hard. So many people
are dying in that mess.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yeah, so there you have it. So many people are
dying in that mess, he says. And he is becoming
increasingly clear, at least this is the headline in the
New York Times, where is it here that Trump is
increasingly making clear that Putin is impeding the peace deal
that he wants to make. President Trump stepped up his
(05:51):
criticism in President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia on Tuesday,
accusing him of duplicity a day after saying Ukraine needed
more weapons again to defend itself against Russia's invasion. And
this is kind of a pretty funny quote. He says,
we got a lot of bullshit thrown us by Putin.
But if you want to know the truth, Trump told
reporters during a cabinet meeting, he's very nice to us
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all the time, but it turns out to be meaningless.
Oh oh no, no shit. You know, you know, he's
not somebody who is trying to flatter you without taking
care of his own interests. He has his own interests,
and he's not an idiot. He sees that you're weak.
You know. He may have been behaving irrationally in terms
of getting involved with the war in Ukraine, but he
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sees that the White House is incredibly weak. It has
no sort of firm direction. It's no sort of policy
guiding him at the top when it comes to administration
that actually knows what it wants to do. So it's saying, oh,
you know, what is this administration? We respond to. It's flattery,
it's getting you know, it's saying all the right things.
It's making you know, nice gestures to President Trump. And
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that's exactly what they've been doing. They've been saying, oh,
we we care about ending this war. We want to
end this war. They don't care about ending the war.
They want to use Trump as much as they possibly
can to get as much as they possibly can from
the Ukrainians, and only when that becomes in terms of
the cost benefit analysis it costs too much to keep
going versus the benefit of getting a cease f deal,
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then they will agree to a ceasefire deal. And as
somebody who has taken a real one sided approach being in,
somebody being you know, the American government, the American policy positions,
they have completely fought for one side of the war,
it is going to be very very hard for them
to kind of step in and be a mediator. That's
why you need, you know, maybe I don't know, some
sort of other country to come in and kind of
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objectively mediate because it's very hard to be fighting in
the war on one side, essentially as a proxy conflict
for kind of a Ukraine or Ukraine kind of being
caught in the middle of the United States trying to
stop Russia's ambitions of a legal expansion. You know, it's
going to be very hard for them to for a
(08:00):
settlement on this from the United States perspective, because you
know of exactly what's been happening over the past six
seven months at this point, So what is going to
be very interesting to see is what will happen now
is you know, they kind of realize this. You know,
we got a lot of bullshit thrown at us, if
you want to know the truth. But he's very nice
to us all the time, but it turns out to
be meaningless. Now that Trump has realized that, what is
(08:22):
he gonna do. Is he gonna continue with the Biden
policy of just supporting Ukraine to a dead end, you know,
and supporting them as more and more men get slaughtered,
more and more resources are burned. Or is he going
to try and reach some sort of negotiated settlement through
some sort of cooperation with a mediator, but that actually
comes with the threat of increased US backing to achieve
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a common goal, there was no realistic goal that was
set out to be achieved, and I think it's such
an important thing by the US government towards the Ukrainian government.
They said, we're gonna get back every single inch, way
way away before anyone with two brain cells up together,
or story way way after anyone with two brain cells
trow up together. Knew that would be a really tough
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goal to achieve and a very unrealistic goal given the
US political climate, given the state of Ukraine after years
and years of war, it was always going to be
something that's very tough. If they can get this to
a better negotiated settlement than they would have otherwise with
increased US support, I think that is going to be
a big victory. Trump has increasingly suggested here that Putin
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has become impediment to the peace deal that he is seeking.
The President said Monday the United States was resuming munition
shipments to Ukraine to help fend off Russia's invasion. Just
last week, the White House acknowledged that the administration had
paused the delivery of some air defense interceptors and precision
guided bombs and missiles to Ukraine, setting Pentagon concerns the
US weapons stockpiles were dwindling. Notably, Trump refused to say
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on Tuesday whether he knew in advance about the pause
on munition shipments. While seated besides his Defense Secretary Pete Hexas,
Trump was repeatedly pressed about who ordered the pause, and
he said, I don't know. Why don't you tell me?
So we probably had no literally had no idea, and
that was, you know, some decision that he maybe was
told about. But then very briefly signed on, like the
(10:11):
important thing to understand is this man is not clued
in when it comes to his own White House on
very very many key, key policy decisions. We're not happy
with Putin. I'm not happy with Putin. I can tell
you that right now, because he's killing a lot of people.
Trump said at another point Putin. He said that Putin
was not treating human beings right, and the Russian president
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was killing too many people. So we're setting some defensive
weapons to Ukraine. The big question is going to be again,
what happens now? How do they respond to this situation?
How do they respond to this big grand realization that, oh,
you know, the United States or is not going to
have a perfect friend, you know, with Vladimir Putin, who
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is deeply, deeply interested in seeking peace, and they're not
going to have as you know, as they well know,
and they've been accusing Zelensky of, they're not going to
have a perfect, you know, selfless friend in Ukraine either.
You know, they're gonna have people who are trying to
get their own interests achieved in the country, in their
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own country, whether it be for the defense of their
very homeland, like Ukraine, or whether it be for an
illegal war of territorial expansion like Russia. But there has
to be some solution that has come to and I
think it's it's been very clear. I can't see at
this point any sort of way for the US to
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regain credibility, regain authority in the peace negotiations without some
sort of a you know, maybe Turkey could step in
as they have in the past, without some sort of
influence from an outside mediator, because you know, they've just
been going all over the place. They have no clear
position now they're going back towards Ukraine. They haven't set
out any sort of clear proposal for what a permanent
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or more permanent piece could look like. And I think
without any of those things, and without any sort of
clear strategic leadership, and without any of the credibility that
a neutral arbiter would have that didn't support one side
of the war for pretty much the entire war, you know,
I think it's gonna be very very hard to achieve
the peace deal that Donald Trump wants so so much,
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or at least he says he does, And you know,
for him to be able to and for the Americans
to be able to take in any way credit for it.
So bottom line is, now Trump seems to realize that
he's kind of been fooled here by Vadimir Putin. But
the real question is what the hell is he going
to do about it now. One of the biggest, biggest
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things I think that you can say that Donald Trump
had going for him was, especially in twenty twenty four,
was his promise to really shake things up right. He
was going to blow a lot of the state streak
secrets open, from you know, nine to eleven JFK to MLK,
all these classiflack files that a lot of people had
been asking about releasing, but no more so than Jeffrey Epstein.
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He was a kind of disgraced financier. He had all
these connections to all these very very elite people. He
gets off on a kind of plead deal with back
in two thousand and eight that was actually done by
Trump's labor secretary, who, when he was being hired for
the position of Trump's labor secretary, tells the Trump transition
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team that he was told to give Epstein the sweetheart
deal because quote, he belonged to intelligence. As a direct
quote from at the time, he goes through he is
out of prison in thirteen months, he's inviting the girls
into the prison, He's getting insane amount of work release.
He's assimily goes on Scott to free until he's arrested
again back in July of twenty nineteen, where everyone kind
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of really finds out about him, including myself for the
first time. We hear about all these tapes, these famous
name plus girl's name of all this black man, all
this weird stuff that he has in his apartments, cameras
set up the baby oil. It's like a you know,
pre ditty. It's like a kind of a white version
of a white banker version of didty uh that that
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has taken place? And you know, so many people are implicated,
from you know, the Israeli Prime Minister a Hooparack, to
the Prince Andrew of the British royal family, to Donald Trump,
to Bill Clinton, really Bill Clinton as well, you know
Kevin Spacey. Even there's pictures of so many people on
that jet. There's a really really insane amount of times.
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And then of course he dies by suicide. And yet
all this, all these excuses, the guards were asleep, they
just worked overtime shifts. It was. It was really really
crazy for them to keep up with everything. And of
course the cameras were off too, they were they were
malfunctioning right at the minute of his death. So you know,
it really, really really was kind of a crazy, crazy situation,
and conspiracy theories that were pretty well evidenced, I should say,
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kind of flew around and have been flying around for
a while a while. And it really was a big
part of the Trump campaign. You had Trump coming out
trying to promise, promise to declassify a lot of the stuff.
He would be the change maker, he would be the
difference maker. He would come out and do this, he
would shake things up, and he would tell the truth
(15:21):
about the Epstein files. But this was caught by Breaking Points,
a wonderful YouTube news show at the time, and it
kind of shows you that he might not have been
as serious as he would have wanted his supporters to believe.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Is to declassify things that everyone's talking about it and he
talked earlier about I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
So if you were president, would you declassify.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
You can answer yes or not this, would you declassify.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
The nine to eleven files?
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, would you declassify JFK files.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah, which you did, I did a lot of it.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Would you declassify the Epstein files? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, I would. All right, I guess I would. I
think that less so because you know, you don't know
if you don't want to affect people's lives of its
phony stuff in there, because it's a lot of phony
stuff with that whole world.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
So the funny thing about that was for the TV audience,
Fox pause it after he said yes, yes, I think
I would, and not before he goes into the whole
thing about I don't want to screw up anyone's lives innocently.
I don't want to. You know, there's a lot of
whatever the hell that means, and you know, you get it.
It becomes pretty clear after he's elected, you know, after
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this clip is edited, and you know, after the TV
audience of Fox gets a completely different picture from the
much smaller online audience about Trump's true intentions when it
comes to prosecuting Epstein and figuring out what the hell happened. Uh,
because of this kind of edited clip where Fox puts out, oh,
he's gonna say he's gonna do it, but he doesn't.
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They don't put in on the TV side all these qualifications.
We see this new report kind of coming out and
these whole things where they give this you know, huge
dossier of files that have you've been released to these
Magga influencers that purde them out like oh we got
these big files, but there's no new revelations. And then
we get this kind of a really hilarious, frankly interview
(17:12):
from Cash Pattel, and I'm gonna give you a little
treat here because we're gonna to play Tim Dillon reacting
to this interview with Cash Mittel, who was the FBI
director that everybody thought was going to break it all open,
was going to be the change agent, was going to
expose the establishment on Epstein. And this is, you know,
a few months ago, pretty deep into the Trump administration,
when the FBI essentially has already come out and made
(17:34):
the claim, by the way, Cash Battel is the FBI director,
that oh, yeah, he died by suicide. You know, we're
going to prove that he died by suicide in the
coming weeks. This is how he phrased it, as Tim
Dilan reacts to it on his show.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Get This, Cash Pattel up on Rogan Cash Patel by
the way, I mean this. This guy's the director of
the FBI. He's dressed. Now, people go, Jim, you dress crazy?
What am I doing? What the hell am I doing?
This guy's the head of the FBI. He's dressed like
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he's going to big his.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Kids up at school.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
I mean, I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
The guy's ahead of the FBI. This is the biggest
podcast in the world. He's there an Athleisure, he's in
like Lulu Lemon Athleisure. Why they can't put the Epstein
stuff out because it will revictimize the women?
Speaker 1 (18:30):
What about the video from the.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
Island that's sorry so you're talking about yeah so sorry
so yeah so again. We're going to give you everything
we can, and people, let me.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Let me explain you, Let me explain you, Let me explain.
You can't find someone better at lying than this. You
can't find someone better at lying than this.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Has this guy practiced.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
We're gonna give you everything we can, and people have
to remember, we're not gonna revictimize women. What We're not
gonna put that ship back after it's not happening, because
then he wins not doing it. You want to hate
me for it? Fine, again, blur the women. If there
was a video, what it's not that Formiden, it's the
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craziest thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Were just blur to the women. Let's just blur them. Yeah,
I mean it's it's completely blurs and is literally beg
beggars all belief in this in this situation here, Like
he comes in, he's not looking serious at all. He's
saying all this, He's trying to be a tough Guy's like,
I'm not gonna revictim bias the women, but just like,
there is so much other data that you could put
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out there without revictimizing the women that is incredibly, incredibly
important to this situation. You know, it is a really
really sketchy, sketchy situation, and it was it was really
kind of in the making for quite a long time.
This video I think came out what June seventh, so
literally a month ago. This came before the FBI century
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had already come out and said we're not going to
feed into these conspiracies. He died of suicide. You know,
it's not a big deal. Stopped making such a big
deal out of it, but it but bah, and then
you know, you have this ridiculous cash hotel clip and
then you have it all official Pam Bondi, Jeffrey Epstein's
client list does not exist. That's what she says.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I'm Christy in Washington tonight, the apparent end to a
story many did not expect. The Department of Justice and FBI,
in a new memo, states, after an exhaustive review into
the case of convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, they found
no evidence of blackmail, no client list, and nothing suspicious
about his death. But some simply aren't buying it.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
So they released all these eleven hours of footage, and
the one minute video is still missing from the tape.
It's really, really is incredible, mind blowing stuff, and it
just it seems like it just in the way he
was and the Trump minstration just in the way that
Biden's administration continued it. They're essentially laughing at the American
people who want to know any sort of truth about
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this and say, oh, yeah, just give you the most
ridiculous possible explanations and be like, what the hell are
you gonna do about it? Are you going to go
through the files? Are you gonna join the FBI and
you know, do a better job than Cash. Buttel did
of exposing the truth here, Like, let's go back there.
It's just so ridiculous. Let's take a look at this
guy again.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
Logical playout if there was a video of some guy
or gal committing felonies, but that is and I'm in charge,
don't you think you'd see it?
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Yes, But that's that's why everyone's confused. Yeah, that's why
everyone's confused. Like you're the supposedly the guy who was
gonna be who's gonna be releasing all this stuff. And
it's like, you know, don't you think I'd put that
shit out there if it was there? Like, clearly not,
because we know it's there. We've seen from the Justice
Department reports and sources saying that there are names out
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or tapes out there with famous person name plus girl
name labeled on the tape, and all of a sudden,
that stuff doesn't even exist. It really is remarkably, remarkably disingenuous,
and it's gonna I think it's going to cause a
lot of people's brains to break just that much more.
You know, I was always kind of following this case,
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but I knew it was very, very unlikely that we'd
ever get some sort of permanent resolution. We never get
anywhere close to the truth of the matter, which I
think is going to be you know, escaping us for
quite a while longer. But there was a lot of
people who put their hopes legitimately in cash betel in
Trump when they they'd already made it so clear in
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the clips that just showed you they were never really
interest did in solving any of this stuff. But now,
especially with the suicide, you know, you can think whatever
you want to about that, but the suicide and one
of the most prominent Epstein victims of Virginia, Drew Frey,
you know, the trail could not be more cold. And
it's gonna cause, you know, people aren't gonna forget about
this stuff. Their evidence is still going to be there,
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but it's just going to be another nail in the
coffin in terms of the incredible disconnect now that's happening
between the governing class and the governent when it comes
to basic basic tenets of credibility, like did you were
you part of a mass child trafficking ring? You know,
like it was a very very big deal here. It again,
(23:45):
let's take a look at this this clip here going
over the most recent reporting in this memo from the
Bondie Department of Justice on what.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Really happened with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. It's been
political theater from day one.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
The list of clients that went to the island has
not been made public.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yeah, it's it's very interesting, isn't It Probably will be,
so if you're able to, you'll be Yeah, certainly take
a look at it.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
In February, conservative influencers given quote unclassified binders on the
matter at the White House, which mostly contained information already
made public. Now the Department of Justice says the curtain
has closed. Despite this revelation earlier this.
Speaker 7 (24:31):
Year, the DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey
Epstein's clients. Will that really happen?
Speaker 8 (24:37):
It's sitting on my desk right.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Now to review now. Attorney General Pam Bondi's Justice Department
says there was no incriminating client list. A new memo
states there was also no credible evidence found that Epstein
blackmailed prominent individuals as part of his actions, also that
Epstein did indeed commit suicide in his jail cell at
the Metropolitan correc Actional Center in New.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
York, again with sheets that were so paper thin in
this special wing of the facility that they would have
been impossible to conduct or construct a noose with, Like
it was a so many flaws in this plan, so
many clear, very questionable points here, like so many red
(25:21):
flags with this plan. But none of them are going
to be addressed. None of them. We're going to be
addressed by the people, by the way, who promised to
address them. And here's now how they are trying to
kind of cope with it and trying to explain it
to their people who were really expecting this when they're
asked about this. In a press conference today, Trump even
flipped out at the reporter for even asking about Epstein.
(25:44):
Now that you know the reports done, the cover ups out,
let's just get it done with Jane.
Speaker 9 (25:49):
Jeffrey Epstein lets some lingering mysteries of One of the
biggest ones is whether he ever worked for an American
or foreign intelligence agency. The former Leader secretary, who was
Miami US attorney Alex Costa I, allegedly said that he
did work for intelligence agency.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yep.
Speaker 9 (26:09):
You resolved whether or not he did, and also can
you say why there was a minute missing from the
jail house team.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
On the Yeah, are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?
This guy's been talked about for years. You're asking we
have Texas, we have this, we have all of the
things right, and are people still talking about this guy?
This creep that is unbelievable?
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Do you want to So it's like that's the first
part of this is just completely insane. It's just like,
you're still talking about this. We were done with it,
Come on, let's move on. Like if that was a
democratic leader, that was a Democratic president coming out of
saying that, you're just scholding people for even asking about questions,
people in MAGA would have spontaneous heart attacks and explode
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from being so shocked and scandalized about it. But because again,
because it's Trump, they're either going to have their brains
broken further or they're just gonna say, oh, yeah, why
are we still talking about it? Let's move on. It's
no big deal. You know, it really really is an
incredible in your face fu to a lot of his
supporters even that were genuinely interested in finding the truth
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about this, but they were just stupid enough to trust
a guy like Donald Trump who has tons and tons
of elite ties, no sort of political will or drive
or desire to do anything, and was so clearly obviously
going to sell them out on this from day one.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
I want to waste the time and do you feel
like answering.
Speaker 8 (27:40):
I don't mind answering.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on
at Epstein at a time like this, where with having
some of the.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Great support that weekend. It's really crazy what happened in Texas.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
It just seems like a desecration, but.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
You go ahead a desecration.
Speaker 8 (27:57):
To back up on that, in February, I didn't interview
on Fox and it's been getting a lot of attention
because I said, I was asking a question about the
client list, and my response was it's sitting on my
desk to be reviewed, meaning the file along with the
JFK MLK files as well. That's what I meant by that.
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Also to the tens of thousands of video they turned
out to be child porn downloaded by that disgusting Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
And by the way, we can go back to that
clip that we just saw. She says, The Fox shows asked,
are you going to release the client list? And she says,
it's sitting on my desk ready to review. There's nothing
about a broad file. The question wasn't about a broad file.
It was about the Jeffrey Epstein client list that she
supposedly waiting there to review. And even if it was,
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even if that was the case, just be like, we're
so sorry. We can't even believe that we got caught
up in this. We don't want to victimize everyone. We
are totally in the like. There was no addressing the
fact that they were the ones setting the stage for this,
only to completely u turn reverse course and let everybody
who was legitimately asking questions that were legitimate questions down
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in a big way by essentially flipping up and switching
up on this whole story.
Speaker 8 (29:20):
Childborn is what they were never going to be released,
never going to see the lighted day to him being
an agent. I have no knowledge about that. We can
get back to you on that. And the minute missing
from the video. We released the video showing definitively the
video was not conclusive, but the evidence prior to it
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was showing he committed suicide. And what was on that
there was a minute that was off the counter. And
what we learned from Bureau of Prisons was every year,
every night they redo that video as old from like
nineteen ninety nine, So every night the video is reset
and every night should have the same minute missing. So
we're looking for that video to release that as well,
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showing that a minute is missing every night. And that's
it on Epstein.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
That's it on Epstein. You know you're you're getting the
idea there really really incredible stuff like as I think,
just completely unintelligible there her answer on the the agent
question and especially on the Bureau Prisons question, because it's like,
wouldn't this be a fact that's completely verifiable that every
Bureau of Prisons camera turns off for one minute and
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a night as a matter of custom, it's a standard
procedure to kind of reset the story or whatever the
hell she was saying. Shouldn't this be very easily provable?
Like it's not going to calm anyone down. You know,
you have Alex Jones over here, who's crying and he's
threatening to puke after Epstein had his list covered up stake,
listen to this, it's all funny.
Speaker 7 (30:50):
Oh look, Alex is sad Magus turned itself apart. Your
globalist masters literally want you to eat bugs and living
a five g twitterd square foot coffee apartment. Look at
the left, Look at them all sposingdizer shots looking like
dead zombies. I mean, come on, you guys are sick,
and so you shouldn't look at those of us that
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have a soul still and have integrity in paying over
this and celebrate you dumb pieces of fucking shit.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
So no, Maga's brains are going to continue to be
broken about it. But the bottom line is there is
a clear cover up here. The Trump administration can promised
to do something about it, promised to bring it into
the light, to be the exposers of truth. They failed
that completely. And the only question nowt is going to
see who on Manga's brains break and they realize that
(31:41):
Trump is full of shit on this and a lot
of other things. Maybe, and who is gonna say Epstein
what Epstein? We never knew about Epstein Epstein files. Well,
the case is closed, We're moving on. There's so many
other things to talk about, Like we got a big,
beautiful bill, Like it's just all this stuff completely going
into the Trump my and bought. The brain ship will
(32:02):
be switched out essentially, and they'll go back to repeating
whatever prior talking points that were before. But bottom line
is again complete, complete cover up and the MAGA world
really in disarray over this. But you can't say you
didn't see it coming given the history of who Donald
Trump is. I don't know if you remember pretty big
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part of the twenty sixteen through twenty twenty five, these
kind of nine years that we've been dealing with Donald
Trump in politics. A big part of the Democrats attacks
against him is that he is this kind of fundamental
threat there has been imposes a big threat to the
continued functioning of America as we currently know and love
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it to this day. And they've they've been alarmist at times.
I think maybe in the first term I thought they
were a little too alarmist for the reality of the situation.
But in the second term, I think a lot of
their warnings have proved to be pretty correct. And I
think the really incredible thing that we're seeing now in
axios Is had a whole article about it today, is
(33:10):
that they're getting annoyed that their own base is taking
their rhetoric seriously. Democrats apparently. This is the headline Democrats
told to quote get shot unquote for the anti Trump resistance. House.
Democrats told Axios they're seeing a growing anger among their
base that has in some cases morphed into a disregard
for American institutions, political traditions, and even the rule of
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a law. How much more awful can you get to that?
So it's like, where do you think they got the idea,
maybe from the last ten years of American politics that
none of these things, these political norms and institutions, is
rule of law. None of it means anything unless you
have people there to enforce it. And I think that
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was a big part of, at least in the first
Rump term, who Democratic base thought that their leaders were.
They thought they were the ones enforcing the rule of law.
They thought they were the ones kind of standing up
for decency, standing up for common civility against Trump. And
you know, they had their impulses. They voted for Bernie
(34:16):
Sanders in pretty big numbers in twenty in the twenty
twenty primary, but they were taken in by the democratically.
They were given a little sit down and said, hey, listen,
you know, Bernie Sanders is too radical. He's not going
to defeat Trump. Trust Joe Biden to defeat Trump. You know,
he's going to be the one who, and with our
(34:36):
full backing, is going to responsibly, civilly come in and
send Trump packing back tomorrow. Ago, Well, I want to
bring in this second article here. This is from the
White House correspondent Tyler Pager the New York Times that
essentially says how the insolerity of the Biden campaign and
everyone essentially pretending within the Biden campaign to the world,
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to each other, you know, just in this kind of
circle of denial and delusion that everything was okay, everything
was fine, there was no cause for any sort of concern.
And you know, not only that, but that kind of
inner delusion was fed by a much wider delusion throughout
the Democratic Party that was insistent on telling the base
(35:20):
that not only was Joe Biden fine, but throughout his
term and throughout the twenty twenty four re election campaign
that Biden would be the best person to stop Trump.
You know, I think that really deluded a lot of
people toward the Democratic Party, and it it was it
really showed a lot of people that you can't trust
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a lot of Democratic voters that you can't trust these
people anymore to be effective resistance forces towards Trump. You know,
it talks about here in the debate and how that
was a kind of major turning point and a lot
of the incelerity within the staff. But what about leading
up to the debate, what about had did anyone try
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and get in contact with Biden? You know Pelosi talked
about back in twenty twenty one. You know, it came
out later, much much later. I don't even think she
really even talked about it. How out of it he
was in his congressional meeting in twenty twenty one, which
is the only time since then he's talked to or
when he was in office, at least Joe Biden talked
to his congressional daft like he was completely out to
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launch this entire time. Pelosi knew it, Obama knew it,
All these Democratic leaders knew it, but they just were,
you know, a combination of didn't want to upset people,
They didn't want to rock the boat, and they didn't
want the consequences of putting in another option of having
an open primary, And they all the whiles said that
we are the ones in charge were the adults in
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the room or putting up Joe Biden to stop Trump.
End of story. And of course that failed completely, you know,
and Donald Trump got in office despite all the Democrats
warnings and despite the reality of the situation on the
ground about the nature of trump Ism and who Donald
Trump turned out to be, especially with the insane radicalism
(37:08):
of his second term. And now what we're seeing is
Democrats are not being trusted anymore to lead things forward.
They're not being trusted to have the best answers all
the time to get the kind of fight towards the trumpdministration.
And they're certainly not being trusted if they say things
(37:29):
like you know, there's a sense of fear and despair
and anger that puts us in a different position where
we can't keep following the norms of decorum, Like how
is this surprised to you that you can't keep following
the norms of decoram It just shows you that again,
these people are not trusted by the Democratic base based
on the calls they're getting and the fact that they're
whining about it to Axios. On the other hand, so
(37:50):
is that they're very much right to not be trusted
by the Democratic base, like these are the same people
that supported Joe Biden all the way through. And you know,
there's more articles coming out by the week, by the
month about how awful of decision that was. And now
they have the temerity, they have the goal to come
and complain to these kind of insider DC publications that
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they aren't getting enough credit for, you know, kind of
respectfully opposing Trump and sticking to the norms and the
rules of politics. Well, of course you're not getting enough
credit because it led to a second Trump. This strategy,
this Democratic elite strategy, led to a second Trump term
in the first place, and it's not doing jack to
stop the abuses of Trump now. It clearly is a
(38:33):
complete failure. From months, Democrats have fumed their basis demands
to fight harder misunderstand the lack of legislative and investigative
power afford to the minority in Congress. We've got people
who are desperately wanting us to do something, no matter
what we say, they want more, said Representative Brad Schneinder
of Illinois. The charity of the center left New Democratic
Coalitions is kind of centrist corporate democrat. Liberal voters have
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angrily accosted Democrats at town halls for, in their view,
not doing enough to counter President Trump's agenda. In response,
some Democrats have tried to up the anty, heckling Trump,
mounting rogue impeachment attempts, and getting tackled by law enforcement
and even indicted in their efforts to scrutinize their president's
deportation campaign, you know, which I think is a kind
(39:14):
of a good start, especially some of the indictments. But
the fact that they're you know, showing up these facilities
is a good start, because again, it's not like they're
doing anything crazy. They're essentially using their own rights to
conduct congressional oversight on these ice facilities, and it's Ice
who is taking the extraordinary steps to arrest and detain
them for obstruction. You know, these are not normal times.
(39:36):
This is not a time where you can win the
day with civility and appeals to the status quo. Not
only is the Trump administration gonna say screw you, get
out of here, give you a big slap on the face,
the base is gonna say that too, because they know
it doesn't work, and they know it doesn't work the
hard way, because you lie to them about it. You
were the ones who said, oh, if we just nominated
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Joe a bid and if you just trust does we'll
get things sorted out. If you just trust us to
make a good speech in Congress, if you just trust
us to write a strongly worded letter to Trump or
whatever thing like that they like to do nowadays, a
chrut numor strategy, things will get better. People are starting
to realize that they are not going to get better.
You don't need to get shot to make a difference.
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You just need to use your powers. You need to
use everything that you have at your disposal. This is
another thing here, this thing about the spectacle, and this
is what there. It's yeah, it's like the Roman Colisey,
and people just want more and more of the spectacle,
said a seventh lawmaker. It's like, yeah, you if you
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can't give the administrative power. If you can't you don't
have the legislative power, you don't have to investigative power,
which you should try and use as much as you can.
And that's why it's good to, you know, show up
to these ice facilities to conduct to exercise your congressional
right to oversite. If you're a democratic lawmaker. You know
you're not gonna be able to do everything, so why
not do everything you can with your bully pulpit, with
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your media power, with your messaging strategy. As a politician,
messaging actually is an important part of their job. Believe
it or not, Democrats, it just gets get me worked
up here, But messaging is an important part of the
job too. If you can't don't have the legated power,
why not do the spectacle. Why not go to extraordinary
lanes to mobilize your base around the idea that they
(41:25):
already believe that these policies suck and actually present a
broader future, present a broader plan. And actually, and I
think it's a big reason why zoramm Donnie wins a one.
He didn't have to convince people that he cared about
the stuff that they care about. It showed through his
every action. It showed through when he yelled at Tom
Holman about the detentions of New Yorkers and his immigration policy.
(41:47):
Like he is one of the Democratic base, he is
one of the people that's pissed off. You don't have
to kind of push him into it. You're gonna give
him a little nudge and say, hey, we're pissed off
over here. He gets it already. I think it's a
really really big thing that Democrats are missing, even these voters,
these many lawmakers said, these voters tend to be white,
well educated, and live in upscale urban or suburban neighborhoods,
(42:11):
which essentially is a kind of code word here to say, oh,
don't listen to them. Their opinions don't reflect the you know,
the average American here. But it's play that game at
your own peril. Because twenty one percent of Biden twenty
twenty voters turned away from Harris in twenty twenty four,
they lost a huge chunk of their base. And if
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you want to do with twenty percent, even if they're all,
you know, kind of rich white people in the suburbs,
if you want to throw them away, be my guest.
But you know, I don't think that's a really good
electoral strategy. And something tells me it's not just them
that are pissed off by the Trump Mistration's policies. So
it really really is quite incredible to do this stuff.
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And this is what I really love here. What I've
seen is a demand that we get ourselves arrested intentionally
or allow ourselves to be victims of violence. And a
lot of times that's coming from economically very secure white people.
Said in eight House Democrat, not only would that be
a gift to Donald Trump, but not only would it
make the job of the Republicans in Congress easier if
(43:15):
we were all married in legal troubles, we are a
group that is disproportionately people of color, women and LGBTQ people,
people who do not very very well in prison. It's like, like,
are you kidding You're members of Congress. You're literally members
of Congress. You could not be more privileged if you
want to think they're gonna shove a member of Congress
(43:35):
in prison for ten years. No, they're just saying, get
arrest of all your protesting and get home in time
for dinner. You know, like that is all they're asking.
You just get for an idea that people care, that
their lawmakers care about the things that are happening to them.
You know, the things are happening to this country. And
that is just the Democrats will, clearly, and this is
(43:59):
what they're showing here, they will use every rhetorical trick
in the book, every strategic leak to axios to try
indent that pressure before they actually do anything. And I
really think going forward, that makes twenty twenty six, especially
the twenty twenty six primary cycle on the Democratic Party side,
(44:19):
very very interesting because they're like these two mindsets of
go out and get shot and resist Trump and let's
just go back to the way things used to be,
let's play by the rules, let's focus on the norms
and all that kind of stuff. You know, those two
things cannot coexist forever. Something has to give, and I
(44:39):
don't think that base anger is going to be dissipating
anytime soon. That's all we got for you on today's show.
Remember all of the clips and the segments from today's
show will be on YouTube, and we will be back
on the air on Friday. Thank you very much,
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