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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hell everyone, My name is Spencer Walsh. Welcome to today's
episode of New Slash. We have a good one for you.
As always on the show, today you're taking a look
at the Epstein files. They're not going away, folks. Mike
Johnson has just shut down the House early, sent the
House into recess to block a vote forcing more Epstein
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files to be released, as Trump is desperately trying to
act like he cares about the files, trying to set
up a meeting now with Glayne Maxwell, who knows what's
that about. That also comes as more really creepy details
about some of the parties that Epstein and Trump hosted
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during their friendship throughout the nineties are coming out. We'll
give you all of those details and tell you where
the case is going to go from here. We also
are gonna be taking a look at AOC and her vote.
Is it a betrayal to support more funding for the
Iron Dome? I would argue yes, and also it's politically stupid.
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We'll tell you what she did and the fallout from it.
Hunter Biden went on the very popular YouTube news channel
Channel five for a pretty extensive interview. We had a
lot of interesting things to say about his dad, State
Democratic Party and crack cocaine and powder cocaine. We'll give
you the full breakdown on that as well. Great show
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for you today, This is Newsplash. As always, though, we
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I've said it before and I will say it again.
This whole thing to do with Jeffrey Epstein ain't going away.
In fact, it is only gaining steam after that cheeky
little July fourth news dump the Republicans tried to do
where you know, we'll put it over the weekend. No
one will care. It's not gonna be a big deal
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put out of the holiday week holiday weekend. It has
only really gotten worse for them over the time of
the last few weeks or so. Now Speaker Johnson has
done something that even I didn't really expect him to do,
and I've always been kind of a you know, synecon
just politicians in general. He has cut short the House
session to avoid a vote on releasing the Epstein files.
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But he is still out there trying to you know,
grandstand away on this stuff. He says he's not gonna
hold the vote on the Epstein files. And essentially what
had happened was the after they rejected it a few
weeks ago. They rejected the same proposal a few weeks ago.
Even the House Rules Committee, which is controlled by Republicans,
as is the entire House, said Okay, you know what,
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our base we hear are based on this are pissed
and we want to push ahead and send the Rules
Committee vote out to the floor to set that says,
we should release this whole Epstein files. The Rules Committee
votes on the motion first, they approve it, they send
to the floor to say, okay, let's release these files.
And this is what Mike Johnson had to say two
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reporters just today on whether or not he would actually
stick through and go with the full release on these files.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Poor the audio spe says.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
So here's here's what I would say about the Epstein files.
There is no day life between the House Republicans, the House,
and the President on maximum transparency. He has said, I
think wants all the credible files related to Epstein to
be released. He's asked the Attorney General to request the
grand jury files of the court. All of that is
in process right now. My belief is we need the
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administration to have the space to do what it is doing,
and if further congressional action is necessary or appropriate, then
we'll look at that. But I don't think we're at
that point right now because we agree with President Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
So really in kind of close coordination there with Donald
Trump seeking to go after the interests of his base
and the interest of his own members by supporting President
Trump by refusing to go ahead with the release of
these files, which is all very, very convenient. He made
the move to denied Democrats a chance to force procedural
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votes on measures that would call on the Justice Department
to make the information public. It reflected how deep the
divisions among Republicans on the matter have now paralyzed the House,
as Republicans seek to avoid a politically perilous vote on
a matter that is confounding President Trump and woiling the
MAGA base. As The New York Times reports here, Johnson
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he got a little testy today. He said, I'm done
being lectured on transparency, and he appeared frustrated. He talked
about these endless efforts to politicize the Epstein investigation, ad
We're not going to play political games with this, as
he wrapped up his final news conference before September. Let's
take a look at that clip from that news conference here.
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This is, of course, is the question. You know, did
Trump ask you essentially to hold off on the lease
of these files?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
No? No, But I as you all know, I speak
to the President multiple times a day on a typical day,
often always, and what I know about the President's hard
on this is that he he agrees with everything I've
said here today, he wants maximum transparency, but he's also
very insistent that we do not subject people who have
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been already been victims of unspeakable crimes to further public scrutiny.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
And it would be a yeah, so that I don't
think even you know, this whole don't trumped has the
victims again, you know that as an excuse. I don't
think that even anyone is buying that. So they're essentially
giving you more time for Trump to come up with
a story. That's what I think we're seeing here. We're
you know, Mike Johnson working in close concert with Trump. Oh,
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I speak to him every day. I speak to him
every day. We get the idea, and He's said to Johnson,
you know, Mike can here, can you give me some
more time here on Epstein files. I want to go
up with the narrative. I want to you know, do
some distractions. You know, he tried to put out the
MLK files I think it was last night or this
morning to kind of get people's minds off of this
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whole thing. You know, he's trying to meet with Gleainne
Maxwell h to you know, to God knows what it
is all just a classic Trump strategy of just trying
to throw whatever he can at the wall and see
what sticks. And that this delay here, I think from
Mike Johnson is quite a big part of that strategy.
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Let's go through here to see what the Justice Department
is actually doing with this time that Mike Johnson has
bought them. They are reaching out to Gleainne Maxwell, who
is obviously a long time deputy associate or Epstein associated.
Todd Land, who is the Deputy Attorney General, announced on
social media early Tuesday he had requesting a meeting with
the disgraced former socialite, Epstein's loyal co conspirator and enabler,
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who also interacted with the Rissian and powerful men he courted,
including President Trump. I have also communicated with counsel for
Maxwell to determine whether she'd be willing to speak with
prosecutors from the Department. So this is, you know, oh,
we want to hear her out. We want to hear
everything that she may have on any of these co conspirators.
This is even as she tries to go to the
trumpministration with this reminder of the famous sweetheart deal back
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in I believe it was like two thousand and eight,
where Epstein got these thirteen month sentence where he could
essentially go out of jail for twelve hours a day
and you continue to do all the awful stuff that
he did. But there was a clause in that same
deal that gave Epstein those privileges, which was, we will
not prosecute any of these unindicted co conspirators, and Maxwell
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canted herself among them, and especially now that Trump is saying, O,
it's all hoages, you know, is set up by the Democrats.
Bah bah ba a bave just like Russia Gate. But bah,
you know, Matxwell is saying, if it's all hoaks, why
am I in jail? Like, come on here, And she's
saying she wants to get released. So this kind of
a coordination could lead to a bunch of different things.
And I don't think that, giving the way the Trump
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been station has handled this, given the way the Republican
Party has handled this, that any of those things lead
to any sort of greater transparency or justice for the
Epstein victims. So this, these two things, this whole you know, oh,
we're gonna push off the votes, We're going to meet
with Glenn Maxwell. It's all an effort to create a
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narrative that will a buy the Republican's time and b
give them the chance, especially Trump, to kind of come
up with a convincing narrative for his base as to
why this all has happened, and something to tell them
to get them to shut up, be quiet, and come
back on board. But that is looking really hard in
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the ever. You know, have this very interesting Guardian article
that has come out recently talking about the relationship between
Epstein and Trump. The long standing relationship between Epstein and Trump,
apparently was the falling out was rooted in a bidding
war over a property in Florida. But after that, you know,
they had a sorry. Before that, they had a big, big, long,
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in depth relationship. The photos and videos and anecdotes paint
together a picture of a close friendship two middle aged
men who repeated party together, both alone and with their partners,
including Maloney and now So would go on to become
Trump's third wife. I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,
Trump told the New York magazine two two famously, He's had
a lot of fun to be with. Steven said he
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likes beautiful women as much as I do. Money of
them are on the younger side. Trump's inside into Epstein's
predilections would be proved true in macabre fashion when he's
found guilty, obviously in two thousand and eight of abusing
girls between fourteen and seventeen. The New York Times that
nineteen ninety two, George George Hornet Horney. I guess you
could say Horny George. Let's call him George Horney, a
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Florida based businessman, had organized a calendar girl competition at Marlago,
Trump's private club where he would later live full time.
Horney flew two dozen women to mar Alago, but he
had a surprise when they arrived. Iraan chapped some contestants
fly in. Horny told the Times, at the very part,
very first party, I said, who's coming tonight? I have
twenty eight girls coming. It was him and Epstein. Horney
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said he was surprised. I said, Donald, if this is
supposed to be a party with VIPs, you're telling me
it's just you and Epstein. And in the end it
was just him and Epstein. Back then, Trump made no
secret of the friendship, and there was a famous video
from the party back in nineteen ninety two where there,
you know, dancing together. He's whispering, Trump's whispering in people's ears,
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and they're having a grand old time. You know, by
the way that song did that video did inspire me
to listen to rhythm as a dancer. Great song, Great
song does not have any reflection on the actions being
done in that video. Stacy Williams, then a professional model,
visited Trump at Trump Tower with Epstein. On arrival. She
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would later told The Guardian that Trump put his hands
quote all over my breast, waists and buttocks, while Epstein
and Trump smiled each other in what you believe was
a twisted game between the two men. Essentially, you know,
how much can you ogle, how much can you creep
people out, how much can you fondl them? Whatever? It
became clear that they were very, very close. What is
undeniable is the men maintain their relationship through the nineteen nineties.
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They were pictured at mar A Lago. In the same year,
they were pictured together at a Victorious Secret Angels event
in New York. There's pictures of Trump, Epstein, and Maxwell
and Millennia altogether. Trump famously when A Maxwell was charged
for being the enabler of Epstein Trump or I wish
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it well frankly, so, really just a bunch of creepy
stuff there. This also comes as there's been more financial
allegations that have been coming out regarding Epstein. This is
Ron Widin, the Democratic senator from Oregon, talking about all
these wire transfers in Epstein's bank account with a bunch
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of very powerful people.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Last year, the Biden administration allowed our investigators to look
at portions of the file. We did that at the
Treasury building. Here is what it says. Treasury's Epstein file
details mister President, four thousand, seven hundred and twenty five
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wire transfers. Let me repeat that, four seven hundred and
twenty five wire transfers adding up to nearly one point
one billion dollars flowing in and out of just one
of mister Epstein's accounts. If you ask me, that is
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more than four thousand potential lines of investigation right there.
Hundreds of millions more flowed through other accounts. That's even
a lot more to investigate.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
So that's pretty remarkable there, four thousand and seven hundred
and twenty five wire transfers adding to nearly one point
one billion from very very powerful people flowing in and
out of these accounts, and this is the stuff that
I think if Trump had any sense, he would want
to release as soon as possible because it would just
overflow the media with all this information. You know, they
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wouldn't be able to highlight in on Trump because there'd
be stuff about Andrew, there'd be stuff about Bill Clinton,
there'd be stuff about I don't know, Kevin Spacey, all
these very very powerful people that have been involved in this,
and it really kind of boggles behind on there's something
really bad that we don't know about as to why
Trump is being so cagy about this rather than just
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trying to deluge people with information to the point where
it doesn't even matter and it all kind of goes through.
So I found that to be quite quite interesting. But
I also want to go to this yere from Dick
Durbin about Epstein, who he's a Democratic senator, who essentially
said that he had heard into his office that there
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had been a bunch of people FBI agents who had
been pulled off of other cases and were told to
flag anything mentioning Trump as they were reviewing these Epstein
files about a thousand personnel and all these different divisions
on twenty four hour ships to review approximately one hundred
thousand Epstein related records in order to produce documents that
could release on an arbitrarily short notice. This effort, which
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will putty, took place from the March fourteenth to the
end of March, was sepplemented by the New York Field
Office personnel the FBI. My office was told that those
personnel were instructured to flag any records. President Trump was mentioned,
so it clearly he's trying to get out in front
of this. He's trying to get out ahead of it,
and he is trying to manipulate this situation. So in
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the grand scheme of things, I think it is pretty
fair to say that nobody here should be trusting any
of this. Nobody should be trusting anything the administration tries
to do, because they are trying to buy time, they're
trying to distract, and ultimately they are trying to cover
up this situation. They're trying to make it so that
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there is a big, really quite significant effort to get
MAGA off the story, to get their own base, and
really to get the general public off the story and
back onto what the trumpministration wants him to focus. The
only thing that I would be like, Okay, you know
they they're being transparent here is if release without conditions
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all these files, all these documents, all this data, and
let people independently pour through it. Everything else is some
sort of effort to distract, divide, lie, or cover up.
I think that is really really quite clear, and will
continue to follow all of these twist in turns in
this investigation wherever they may lead. So Alexander Kasi Cortes
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has come under some what I think is very justified
fire for voting in the middle of bit genocide that
she again admits is a genocide to fund the Israeli
government and its genocidal campaign through the form of the
Iron Dome. We'll get you some of the current details,
the more up to date details in the moment, but
she essentially did a very similar thing in the past,
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and this is how she justified it in an Instagram
post at the time. Let's take a look stability and
the security of the region.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
That means being able to support, not support yes, Israel
and its defensive capacities, right, and it's to build in
that context, but it also means that the United States
has a responsibility to ensure accountability to human rights, to
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prevent the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, and to ensure that
horrors do not happen in the names of victims who
do not want their tragedy used to justify further violence
and injustice.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Right, Beautifully said, I would say that, yeah, so it's
a it's a I wouldn't know about, Beautifully said. There,
I'm looking up when ninety two weeks ago, this was
in October sixteenth, twenty twenty three. Ninety two weeks ago
was just was when this was posted. This was from
just after October seventh, So it makes makes sense that
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kind of kind of rhetoric there, I think from her.
But so much has happened since then, and I think
to her credit, she has become a lot stronger in
her positioning on it. But this is just unacceptable here.
Marjorie Taylor Green put essentially put this amendment to block
five hundred million dollars in congress annual Defense Bending bill
for Israel's Iron Dome program. And yet there's more. You know,
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you should be all cut off, you know why she
just nitpicking around the Iron Dome. If you're MTG I
think it's a fair question to ask for her. But
this should be a gimme for anyone that's saying this
is a genocide and wants to see themselves on the
progressive left. You know, this is how she comes out
and frames it. Marjorie Taylor. Green's amendment does nothing to
cut off offensive aid to Israel nor end the flow
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of US munitions to Gaza. Of course I voted against it.
What does it and you know, of course I voted
against it, and in that kind of tone there, I
think so many people are really taking a lot of
notice of what it does do is cut off defensive
iron dome capacity is while allowing the actual bombs killing
Palestine needs to continue. I've long stated that I do
not believe that adding to a deathcount of innocentvictims to
this war is constructive to its end. This is a
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simple and clear difference of opinion that has long been established.
I remain focus on cutting the flow a flow of
US munitions that are being used to perpetuate the genocide
in Gaza, so you know, all all the other stuff
that we're funding Israel to do. That is totally fine.
And I think for there's two things that are on
the marriage. Why I think AOC is kind of wrong
in this position that everything is okay, or we'll cut off,
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we'll cut off funding for Israel on the offensive stuff,
the defensive stuff, like I don't know, the US should
still be funding it. I think it's wrong really for
two kind of reasons, or for two possible kind of perspectives.
And the first one is they're their own independent country.
If they're in the middle of the genocide, we should
not be funding something that they could conceivably afford to
pay for them for themselves. Even if you think, yes,
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this is saving innocentness, really live, so we need to
fund it, you know, they should be able to fund
it themselves, especially if they are, you know, war criminals
committing committing a genocide here, even in your own eyes,
I think that's just a completely unethical thing to do.
And secondly, and this is the point where I kind
of fall into the kind of camp that I fall into,
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is that giving Israel these defensive quote unquote capacities enables
them to in a lot of ways continue their authentive
capacities because if they get hit, they are well. When
they very rarely get hit, they have the knowledge that
they are much more protected against the enemy strikes. Then
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the enemy is protected against their strikes, so enables them
to attack the enemy a lot more aggressively, a lot
more viciously. In that case, in Gaza is kids, it's hospitals,
it's all sorts of civilians, and it has happened NonStop
with US government support. That Again, you just let yourself
do as a US representative for you know, nineteen months
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now at this point, and you could really see a
train of lefting accounts kind of coming in and to
bunking her, she said. Francesca Ferentini says, your progressive colleagues
far more vulnerable than you still on business against genocide.
You've got to buck the liberal Zionist lobbyists in your ear.
Mohammed Shahada, who we've talked about in the show, is
a Palestinian research are very smart and very great follow
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on Twitter. This is an Israeli far right MP admitting
that the Iron Dome has been the greatest curse on
the state of Israel because it allowed the Israel government
to manage the conflict and entirely ignore Palestinians and its
occupation with zero consequences. Reconsider your reconsider your stance, is
what he says, because yeah, he's saying it allows Palestinians
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to essentially fester and allows him their suffering to continue
and the Israelis to continue to conflict that suffering. I
think it is a or inflict that suffering. It's a
very very clear point. It's just logic that when you
have the security in knowledge of knowing that whatever the enemy,
whatever in this case, the civilians managed to throw back
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to or Hamas throws back some sort of you know,
weak rocket made at a fertilizer, which is literally how
they make their rockets, and you know it gets off
the iron dome. You have nothing stopping you, not the US,
not any threat against your civilians whatever, or your infrastructure whatever.
You have nothing stopping you from going full bore against
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the civilians of Gaza and also civilians of by the way,
a lot of other different countries throughout the Middle East.
And I think there's a very very clear problem and
clear justification that anyone who says this is a genocide
and believes it truly should understand intuitively as why you
should not be sending any sort of money towards Israel,
even if it is for the Iron Dome. And you know,
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I think more broadly though, this shows really some some
incredibly piss poor political instincts, because it's it's the same
thing with Biden, and I think the way, and because
with Biden, if you remember, she was one of those
people that until his last minutes as the Democratic candidate
in twenty twenty four, it was he was out there
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supporting him, defending him, saying he was a great, true
progressive president who cares about our priorities. Again this is also,
by the way, as the genocidem was happening in Gaza,
she was out there saying this, defending him, you know,
providing him political cover. You know, that would be of
Hunter Biden's dreams. And this was all as everyone else
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was falling away from him for his whole political world,
sole political structures of support were crumbling in rapid speed, right,
and she was the person there to come in and
give him support. What happened months later or weeks later,
Biden drops out is incredibly unpopular. There's real reckoning for
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all the people that supported Biden and his delusions about
his age for a long time. And she and the
as the kind of face of the Progressive left in
elected office lent a bunch of credibility to that incredibly
toxic losing position that Biden was fit to serve, and
it did the Progressive leaps a lot of damage in
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terms of credibility to stand up to effectless Democratic Party
when you had the leader of it essentially going out
there and saying that, oh, everything's fine with regards to Biden,
and we should support him because he did so much
for us. You know, I don't care how much he did.
I don't care if he redid the New Deal. If
you are trying to get something done within the Democratic Party,
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if you're trying to change the Democratic Party, and you're
hitching yourself off to a guy that is giving the
Democratic Party a bad name, you're giving your movement a
bad name. You're giving your efforts for a change of
bad name. So it really is some stupid stuff. And
the same thing applies here with Gaza, because look at
the way the polling is going, look at the way
the culture is going. People are coming out calling this
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the geniside. Every day. You got actors, you got a
smaller level of politicians, you got people, cultural figures, whatever.
Really pissed off about this stuff. The polling has been
more negative, has never been more negative, excuse me, towards
Israel than any other time in history of people are
going to in years to come look at you and
be like, how the hell could you support this? How
the hell could you ever sign onto this if you
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were some sort of great leader of the kind of
pro pousetime progressive left, and again is going to give
the movement for change. It's going to give the movement
to make a better world a bad name because she
is at the front of it saying a bunch of dumb,
stupid things. I think the bottom line for it for
me is she fundamentally needs to stop being afraid of
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being judged for, you know, taking a bold position in
yesterday's media environment. You know, yesterday's media environment would have
said Biden is a strong progressive candidate. The current media
environment when she was saying those things back last year
was that he was about to die in the second
and everyone hated him. But she was still caught up
and afraid of being judged in yesterday's media environment. Same
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thing for Gaza. You know, a year ago, ninety two
weeks ago, it was all Israel's right in itself. The
way things are going now, it's this is a genocide,
and that cultural position is being spread widely and faster
and further than it ever has before. Yet she is
still afraid of being judged in yesterday's political landscape. I
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hope she knows that she. I hope she truly believes
the stuff and she's not just going to become some
sort of a you know, John Fennerman lay figure who
completely does turn towards Israel because of pushback from online
And I feel like she knows what's right in this situation,
but she just again needs to stop being afraid of
being judged in yesterday's political landscape and give a sense,
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get a sense of where the wind is blowing, and
actually come out ahead and on the right side of
an issue for once. It'd be very nice to see
there from AOC, but I have to say these political
instincts do not pretend well for future bigger roles. One
thing people are really talking about is a recent interview
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where one goat interviewed another, and of course I'm talking
about the goat of quality journalism content production. Andrew Callahan
of Channel five absolutely love the work that he does,
and Hunter Biden and the work that he does smoking crack. No,
just kidding, but yeah, he had some very very interesting
clips in this interview that is really going to kind
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of passed around and shared a lot. He goes off
on the Democratic Party and he actually has some kind
of really thoughtful analysis on his struggles with crack cocaine,
and of course the fact that his dad had a
big role in the war on drugs and the powder
versus crack disparity in sentencing and that was a really
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really big dealm it was also really interesting to see
him effect on it. Let's go to some of these clips.
He was really the first one about how essentially saying
a little delusional here from Hunter to start saying that
he should not have dropped out of the presidential race.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Did you a kind of see him dropping out of
the race? Did you see that coming?
Speaker 7 (29:03):
No? No, I was. I thought that we had cleared
all the hurdles that they had set up for us.
And so if you remember, it was a horrible debate,
and there's no arguing that it was anything but an
absolutely horrible debate, and I think it scared the shit
out of a lot of people because that were already
concerned about his age. But as I say about everybody,
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the thing that we're going to have to grapple with
as society that's bigger than Joe Biden is this how
we handle people that age in front of our eyes
and recognize that they may have lost a physical step,
but that does not mean they don't have the mental
capacity to continue to do their job.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
And what.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
It's not a good start there from Biden, he does
kind of from Hunter, you know, he's missing. One big
thing is the fact that his dad was the president
of the United States. Like, if you're Tony Bennett and
you want to go up at ninety one years of
age and sying on stage with Lady Gaga, like that's
perfectly blind, and people will give you a lot of
kudos and applause. Oh yeah, that's so great. But the
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thing that they don't want is for the guy who
holds a nuclear codes, the guy who makes all these
very important decisions, to be somebody who they think cannot
do the job. So it is pretty obvious to anyone
with a brain. There Another thing that should have been
pretty pretty obvious, to be frank was the scandal around
the sale of the paintings that he apparently had no
(30:23):
idea about it, and this is, you know, see how
he frames it. And then I'll tell you the actual
reality of the situation. Here, let's say a.
Speaker 7 (30:30):
Little literally sat in the garage by virtue of my
choice and my desire and paint it for three years.
And then they and then they accused me of crimes
for painting? Do you mean not that I couldn't tell
my paint that it was a clear conspiracy to launder
money and to curry influence by selling a crylic on
canvas abstract painting by Hunter Biden.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
How do you prevent a purchaser paying too much so
as to ingratiate themselves with the First family.
Speaker 7 (30:56):
All of a sudden, the Iranians are going to change
their nuclear weapons program. I mean, it's such insane.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Meanwhile, these with Trump Mobile, we're going to be introducing
an entire package of products.
Speaker 7 (31:08):
They're selling gold telephones and sneakers and two billion dollar
investments in golf courses and selling tickets to the White
House for investment into their meme coin.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yeah, I mean to a certain extent, like when he says, oh, yeah,
you're peddling influence. And then Trump says, oh, Hunter Biden's
petting influences. Like it's like they're both right, and obviously
Trump is doing it on a scale that makes Biden's look,
you know, small and pathetic. But you are really seeing
a kind of almost I would say, dishonest situation when
it comes to Hunter there, because it's just like, yeah,
(31:42):
you know, you got these Ukraine, you just essentially saying here,
I did bribery on a smaller scale. And that's what
I think is so dishonest about it, because he was
out there selling those paintings. He's just like, he's no
background in art. He's doing god knows what on those
paintings and selling them to you know, a bunch of
different people, and those people had, you know, business in
front of the Biden's business, front of the obomdministration back then.
(32:02):
You know, he was really you know, using those as essentially,
if anyone wanted to curry favor, curry influence, they would
just pay a bazillion dollars for a pretty crappy painting
of Hunter Biden and then that would get their name
in front of the right people at the White House.
And again, to be one hundred percent clear, there is literally,
(32:24):
you know, it does not compare the amount of influence pedaling.
It's not even the same galaxy the amount of influence
pedaling that Trump did and Trump is doing right now
compared to what Biden, Jim Biden who is Biden's brother,
and Hunter Biden did in terms of the business, the
Ukrainian gas job, that's selling you to paintings, all that stuff.
(32:45):
It's not in the same ballpark as the mean coin
and the you know, whatever the hell else you know,
Trump and Malania and Don Junior are doing. But it
still does not mean that it didn't happen, And it
doesn't mean or it does mean really that you can't
make that case that you're you're honest, you're ethical, you're
against Trump, and you're essentially doing the same things that
Trump is doing on a smaller scale. It contributes really
(33:07):
to a big dissolution of trust in politics and politicians,
and it leads for people to say, oh, look at
these people, they're all the same. I may as well
just check out and not even pay any attention on this.
Another thing I think was kind of interesting here is
he really went after pod Save America and just essentially
a bunch of other people who had called on him
(33:27):
to drop out. Uh, you know, which I think we
don't really have to listen to that, but I think
it's it's very very interesting that he goes in and
to tax these people who you know, he he does
have right about the kind of you know, malign influence
on the Democratic Party and the fact that you know,
they're not really in touch with the base. But this
(33:47):
was the one instance really where they happened to be
the most on the notes because if you look at
the polling, if you just the reality on the ground,
if you look every time Biden opened his mouth, it
was kind of a game of Russian and Roulette of
what the hell is he going to stay? You know,
that is not a sustainable situation for the presidency. And
you know, I think it's very very fair to question
that it was just based on the last clip that
(34:08):
we just paid. You know, maybe Hunter wanted to keep
a good audience to have his paintings sold. You know,
maybe he wanted to keep his dad's name in a
place of high prominence so he could continue to get
good jobs from different companies and different countries that had
interests in front of the American government. I think that's
(34:29):
a perfectly plausible question to ask despite all these kind
of contrite and you know, nice sounding things that he says,
because if you look at oh, you know I I
he was the the person just begging and pleading for
his dad to stay in the race. And as you
can see here, and let's take a look at this clip. Here,
see what you have to say about pod Save America.
We actually, you know, I'm whiffling on some waffling on this.
(34:52):
I don't know, we'll screw it. But either way, the
point is, the point is that it is really up
for debate, I think on this stuff, and you will
never really know for sure. And with this point and
the Bid administration kind of being consigned to the dustman
of history, you know, it doesn't really matter too much.
But I think it is very very fair to ask
(35:12):
that and point out the connection to the fact that oh,
he is dying to keep his dad in the race.
He's saying please, and he's going, you know, swearing, saying
fuck you, fuck this, fuck that to anyone who said
that this guy should drop out. And he has probably
been the single person that's benefited the most from his
dad being government in terms of you know, being able
to sell his shady paintings for one hundred thousand dollars,
(35:35):
being able to get these you know, Ukrainian gas jobs
that he doesn't have any kind of connection to really,
So that is that is definitely a big part of it.
I think it's a very very fair question to ask,
but to give him some credit on the issue of
crack cocaine, he does make a pretty strong admission about
(35:55):
his dad's role and the kind of double treatment of
crack addicts versus powder cocaine addicts.
Speaker 7 (36:02):
This is like a PSA if you want to completely
utterly fuck up your life. You know, I don't think
that anything is necessarily oh you do it once you're addicted,
But there's about the closest thing that statement could be
true would be with crack cocaine.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Yeah, I mean, if you look at the impact and
communities in the inner city in the eighties, I mean
led to an entire generation being destroyed, left without parental
guidance and stuff like that.
Speaker 7 (36:26):
You know, when I went to Yea law school and
I had a professor Duke, who is one of the
key voices in the country at the time from a
policy perspective, in a law perspective about the inequities of
our drug laws, and you could very much make an
argument that, by the way, the Clinton Climbril that my
dad helped architect was the consequences of what you call
(36:49):
the crack wars during those period period of time, the
result of the war against crack cocaine, or was it
the result of the crack cocaine itself. I'm not saying
that crack in and of itself is in any ways
safe or recommend it, but the response to it, I
think was far more destructive in those communities than the
actual drug itself, which, by the way, like all drugs,
(37:09):
all addictions are completely dependent upon the way in which
a community responds to them. Nobody gets clean and sober
without community, Nobody gets clean and sober without support. If
you know, the response is you know, met with just violence,
(37:30):
from the dealing, to the to the to the destruction.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
I don't you know, do you think that like looking
back at the crime bill and stuff your dad and
that kind of Oh yeah.
Speaker 7 (37:41):
My point was when I was at Yale, i wrote
my senior analytical thesis was on the disparity between crack
and a powder cocaine sensing that was in nineteen ninety six,
in which I mean, we knew then, and you know,
that's when my dad became president. He did away with
all of that. I think that Obama did part of
it and he eradicated it and then.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Yeah, so that is a pretty good emission there. I
think you could obviously it's his dad, so he's not
gonna go crazy on him, but you can give him,
maybe give him a little more criticism than that. But
it's very interesting and kind of rare to see someone
who is in this position of power, who's kind of
one of the scions of a great American political family,
whatever you want to call it, if you really want
to go that far for the Bidens, but you know,
(38:24):
to come out and say, yeah, my policies or my
dad's policies caused real harm. And I am a first
hand victim of not those policies but the drug that
so many people were suffering from. And I was treated
so much better and so much differently because of the
fact that my name was a Biden. And this approach,
this strategy was wrong and essentially saying that all people
(38:46):
should be treated more like me and not like the
way my dad wanted to treat him when he passed
that crime bill way back in the day. He also
had an interesting moment where he broke down on why
crack cocaine and crack, with the difference crack and cocaine,
and why crack is so addictive. He broke that town
(39:06):
and then push the tea of all people responded and said, deep,
you know he knows what he's talking about. You know,
he knows first and the differences and why that shit
is so bad and toxic. So Hunter continues to be
a very very interesting guy. And I think it is
very very fair to point out the obvious corruption and
the obvious double dealing and influence pedaling that's going on,
(39:28):
while you can also say that Trump is doing it
ten times worse, and you can also say that Hunter
Biden wanted his dad to probably staying the race, yes,
because he liked his dad, but also because he enjoyed
the birks of it, while also saying he's a very
thoughtful guy, and he's thought a lot about the drug
stuff and his it seems to be in spite of
all those facts, in spite of all those corrupt corruption
and ties to dad and all that stuff, seems to
(39:50):
be someone who is eminently likable and also somebody who
has some pretty good reads, shall we say, on the
direction of the Democratic Party when his dad is not involved.
So very interesting interview, of course, great job to Channel five.
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episode of New Slash. We have a good one for you.
As always on the show, today you're taking a look
at the Epstein files. They're not going away, folks. Mike
Johnson has just shut down the House early, sent the
House into recess to block a vote forcing more Epstein
(00:35):
files to be released, as Trump is desperately trying to
act like he cares about the files, trying to set
up a meeting now with Glayne Maxwell, who knows what's
that about. That also comes as more really creepy details
about some of the parties that Epstein and Trump hosted
(00:57):
during their friendship throughout the nineties are coming out. We'll
give you all of those details and tell you where
the case is going to go from here. We also
are gonna be taking a look at AOC and her vote.
Is it a betrayal to support more funding for the
Iron Dome? I would argue yes, and also it's politically stupid.
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We'll tell you what she did and the fallout from it.
Hunter Biden went on the very popular YouTube news channel
Channel five for a pretty extensive interview. We had a
lot of interesting things to say about his dad, State
Democratic Party and crack cocaine and powder cocaine. We'll give
you the full breakdown on that as well. Great show
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I've said it before and I will say it again.
This whole thing to do with Jeffrey Epstein ain't going away.
In fact, it is only gaining steam after that cheeky
little July fourth news dump the Republicans tried to do
where you know, we'll put it over the weekend. No
one will care. It's not gonna be a big deal
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put out of the holiday week holiday weekend. It has
only really gotten worse for them over the time of
the last few weeks or so. Now Speaker Johnson has
done something that even I didn't really expect him to do,
and I've always been kind of a you know, synecon
just politicians in general. He has cut short the House
session to avoid a vote on releasing the Epstein files.
(03:37):
But he is still out there trying to you know,
grandstand away on this stuff. He says he's not gonna
hold the vote on the Epstein files. And essentially what
had happened was the after they rejected it a few
weeks ago. They rejected the same proposal a few weeks ago.
Even the House Rules Committee, which is controlled by Republicans,
as is the entire House, said Okay, you know what,
(03:58):
our base we hear are based on this are pissed
and we want to push ahead and send the Rules
Committee vote out to the floor to set that says,
we should release this whole Epstein files. The Rules Committee
votes on the motion first, they approve it, they send
to the floor to say, okay, let's release these files.
And this is what Mike Johnson had to say two
(04:19):
reporters just today on whether or not he would actually
stick through and go with the full release on these files.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Poor the audio spe says.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
So here's here's what I would say about the Epstein files.
There is no day life between the House Republicans, the House,
and the President on maximum transparency. He has said, I
think wants all the credible files related to Epstein to
be released. He's asked the Attorney General to request the
grand jury files of the court. All of that is
in process right now. My belief is we need the
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administration to have the space to do what it is doing,
and if further congressional action is necessary or appropriate, then
we'll look at that. But I don't think we're at
that point right now because we agree with President Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
So really in kind of close coordination there with Donald
Trump seeking to go after the interests of his base
and the interest of his own members by supporting President
Trump by refusing to go ahead with the release of
these files, which is all very, very convenient. He made
the move to denied Democrats a chance to force procedural
(05:20):
votes on measures that would call on the Justice Department
to make the information public. It reflected how deep the
divisions among Republicans on the matter have now paralyzed the House,
as Republicans seek to avoid a politically perilous vote on
a matter that is confounding President Trump and woiling the
MAGA base. As The New York Times reports here, Johnson
(05:41):
he got a little testy today. He said, I'm done
being lectured on transparency, and he appeared frustrated. He talked
about these endless efforts to politicize the Epstein investigation, ad
We're not going to play political games with this, as
he wrapped up his final news conference before September. Let's
take a look at that clip from that news conference here.
(06:02):
This is, of course, is the question. You know, did
Trump ask you essentially to hold off on the lease
of these files?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
No? No, But I as you all know, I speak
to the President multiple times a day on a typical day,
often always, and what I know about the President's hard
on this is that he he agrees with everything I've
said here today, he wants maximum transparency, but he's also
very insistent that we do not subject people who have
(06:38):
been already been victims of unspeakable crimes to further public scrutiny.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
And it would be a yeah, so that I don't
think even you know, this whole don't trumped has the
victims again, you know that as an excuse. I don't
think that even anyone is buying that. So they're essentially
giving you more time for Trump to come up with
a story. That's what I think we're seeing here. We're
you know, Mike Johnson working in close concert with Trump. Oh,
(07:04):
I speak to him every day. I speak to him
every day. We get the idea, and He's said to Johnson,
you know, Mike can here, can you give me some
more time here on Epstein files. I want to go
up with the narrative. I want to you know, do
some distractions. You know, he tried to put out the
MLK files I think it was last night or this
morning to kind of get people's minds off of this
(07:25):
whole thing. You know, he's trying to meet with Gleainne
Maxwell h to you know, to God knows what it
is all just a classic Trump strategy of just trying
to throw whatever he can at the wall and see
what sticks. And that this delay here, I think from
Mike Johnson is quite a big part of that strategy.
(07:46):
Let's go through here to see what the Justice Department
is actually doing with this time that Mike Johnson has
bought them. They are reaching out to Gleainne Maxwell, who
is obviously a long time deputy associate or Epstein associated.
Todd Land, who is the Deputy Attorney General, announced on
social media early Tuesday he had requesting a meeting with
the disgraced former socialite, Epstein's loyal co conspirator and enabler,
(08:11):
who also interacted with the Rissian and powerful men he courted,
including President Trump. I have also communicated with counsel for
Maxwell to determine whether she'd be willing to speak with
prosecutors from the Department. So this is, you know, oh,
we want to hear her out. We want to hear
everything that she may have on any of these co conspirators.
This is even as she tries to go to the
trumpministration with this reminder of the famous sweetheart deal back
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in I believe it was like two thousand and eight,
where Epstein got these thirteen month sentence where he could
essentially go out of jail for twelve hours a day
and you continue to do all the awful stuff that
he did. But there was a clause in that same
deal that gave Epstein those privileges, which was, we will
not prosecute any of these unindicted co conspirators, and Maxwell
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canted herself among them, and especially now that Trump is saying, O,
it's all hoages, you know, is set up by the Democrats.
Bah bah ba a bave just like Russia Gate. But bah,
you know, Matxwell is saying, if it's all hoaks, why
am I in jail? Like, come on here, And she's
saying she wants to get released. So this kind of
a coordination could lead to a bunch of different things.
And I don't think that, giving the way the Trump
(09:16):
been station has handled this, given the way the Republican
Party has handled this, that any of those things lead
to any sort of greater transparency or justice for the
Epstein victims. So this, these two things, this whole you know, oh,
we're gonna push off the votes, We're going to meet
with Glenn Maxwell. It's all an effort to create a
(09:37):
narrative that will a buy the Republican's time and b
give them the chance, especially Trump, to kind of come
up with a convincing narrative for his base as to
why this all has happened, and something to tell them
to get them to shut up, be quiet, and come
back on board. But that is looking really hard in
(09:59):
the ever. You know, have this very interesting Guardian article
that has come out recently talking about the relationship between
Epstein and Trump. The long standing relationship between Epstein and Trump,
apparently was the falling out was rooted in a bidding
war over a property in Florida. But after that, you know,
they had a sorry. Before that, they had a big, big, long,
(10:24):
in depth relationship. The photos and videos and anecdotes paint
together a picture of a close friendship two middle aged
men who repeated party together, both alone and with their partners,
including Maloney and now So would go on to become
Trump's third wife. I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,
Trump told the New York magazine two two famously, He's had
a lot of fun to be with. Steven said he
(10:45):
likes beautiful women as much as I do. Money of
them are on the younger side. Trump's inside into Epstein's
predilections would be proved true in macabre fashion when he's
found guilty, obviously in two thousand and eight of abusing
girls between fourteen and seventeen. The New York Times that
nineteen ninety two, George George Hornet Horney. I guess you
could say Horny George. Let's call him George Horney, a
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Florida based businessman, had organized a calendar girl competition at Marlago,
Trump's private club where he would later live full time.
Horney flew two dozen women to mar Alago, but he
had a surprise when they arrived. Iraan chapped some contestants
fly in. Horny told the Times, at the very part,
very first party, I said, who's coming tonight? I have
twenty eight girls coming. It was him and Epstein. Horney
(11:30):
said he was surprised. I said, Donald, if this is
supposed to be a party with VIPs, you're telling me
it's just you and Epstein. And in the end it
was just him and Epstein. Back then, Trump made no
secret of the friendship, and there was a famous video
from the party back in nineteen ninety two where there,
you know, dancing together. He's whispering, Trump's whispering in people's ears,
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and they're having a grand old time. You know, by
the way that song did that video did inspire me
to listen to rhythm as a dancer. Great song, Great
song does not have any reflection on the actions being
done in that video. Stacy Williams, then a professional model,
visited Trump at Trump Tower with Epstein. On arrival. She
(12:15):
would later told The Guardian that Trump put his hands
quote all over my breast, waists and buttocks, while Epstein
and Trump smiled each other in what you believe was
a twisted game between the two men. Essentially, you know,
how much can you ogle, how much can you creep
people out, how much can you fondl them? Whatever? It
became clear that they were very, very close. What is
undeniable is the men maintain their relationship through the nineteen nineties.
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They were pictured at mar A Lago. In the same year,
they were pictured together at a Victorious Secret Angels event
in New York. There's pictures of Trump, Epstein, and Maxwell
and Millennia altogether. Trump famously when A Maxwell was charged
for being the enabler of Epstein Trump or I wish
(13:00):
it well frankly, so, really just a bunch of creepy
stuff there. This also comes as there's been more financial
allegations that have been coming out regarding Epstein. This is
Ron Widin, the Democratic senator from Oregon, talking about all
these wire transfers in Epstein's bank account with a bunch
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of very powerful people.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Last year, the Biden administration allowed our investigators to look
at portions of the file. We did that at the
Treasury building. Here is what it says. Treasury's Epstein file
details mister President, four thousand, seven hundred and twenty five
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wire transfers. Let me repeat that, four seven hundred and
twenty five wire transfers adding up to nearly one point
one billion dollars flowing in and out of just one
of mister Epstein's accounts. If you ask me, that is
(14:04):
more than four thousand potential lines of investigation right there.
Hundreds of millions more flowed through other accounts. That's even
a lot more to investigate.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
So that's pretty remarkable there, four thousand and seven hundred
and twenty five wire transfers adding to nearly one point
one billion from very very powerful people flowing in and
out of these accounts, and this is the stuff that
I think if Trump had any sense, he would want
to release as soon as possible because it would just
overflow the media with all this information. You know, they
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wouldn't be able to highlight in on Trump because there'd
be stuff about Andrew, there'd be stuff about Bill Clinton,
there'd be stuff about I don't know, Kevin Spacey, all
these very very powerful people that have been involved in this,
and it really kind of boggles behind on there's something
really bad that we don't know about as to why
Trump is being so cagy about this rather than just
(15:06):
trying to deluge people with information to the point where
it doesn't even matter and it all kind of goes through.
So I found that to be quite quite interesting. But
I also want to go to this yere from Dick
Durbin about Epstein, who he's a Democratic senator, who essentially
said that he had heard into his office that there
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had been a bunch of people FBI agents who had
been pulled off of other cases and were told to
flag anything mentioning Trump as they were reviewing these Epstein
files about a thousand personnel and all these different divisions
on twenty four hour ships to review approximately one hundred
thousand Epstein related records in order to produce documents that
could release on an arbitrarily short notice. This effort, which
(15:55):
will putty, took place from the March fourteenth to the
end of March, was sepplemented by the New York Field
Office personnel the FBI. My office was told that those
personnel were instructured to flag any records. President Trump was mentioned,
so it clearly he's trying to get out in front
of this. He's trying to get out ahead of it,
and he is trying to manipulate this situation. So in
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the grand scheme of things, I think it is pretty
fair to say that nobody here should be trusting any
of this. Nobody should be trusting anything the administration tries
to do, because they are trying to buy time, they're
trying to distract, and ultimately they are trying to cover
up this situation. They're trying to make it so that
(16:39):
there is a big, really quite significant effort to get
MAGA off the story, to get their own base, and
really to get the general public off the story and
back onto what the trumpministration wants him to focus. The
only thing that I would be like, Okay, you know
they they're being transparent here is if release without conditions
(17:01):
all these files, all these documents, all this data, and
let people independently pour through it. Everything else is some
sort of effort to distract, divide, lie, or cover up.
I think that is really really quite clear, and will
continue to follow all of these twist in turns in
this investigation wherever they may lead. So Alexander Kasi Cortes
(17:28):
has come under some what I think is very justified
fire for voting in the middle of bit genocide that
she again admits is a genocide to fund the Israeli
government and its genocidal campaign through the form of the
Iron Dome. We'll get you some of the current details,
the more up to date details in the moment, but
she essentially did a very similar thing in the past,
(17:50):
and this is how she justified it in an Instagram
post at the time. Let's take a look stability and
the security of the region.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
That means being able to support, not support yes, Israel
and its defensive capacities, right, and it's to build in
that context, but it also means that the United States
has a responsibility to ensure accountability to human rights, to
(18:20):
prevent the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, and to ensure that
horrors do not happen in the names of victims who
do not want their tragedy used to justify further violence
and injustice.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Right, Beautifully said, I would say that, yeah, so it's
a it's a I wouldn't know about, Beautifully said. There,
I'm looking up when ninety two weeks ago, this was
in October sixteenth, twenty twenty three. Ninety two weeks ago
was just was when this was posted. This was from
just after October seventh, So it makes makes sense that
(18:58):
kind of kind of rhetoric there, I think from her.
But so much has happened since then, and I think
to her credit, she has become a lot stronger in
her positioning on it. But this is just unacceptable here.
Marjorie Taylor Green put essentially put this amendment to block
five hundred million dollars in congress annual Defense Bending bill
for Israel's Iron Dome program. And yet there's more. You know,
(19:20):
you should be all cut off, you know why she
just nitpicking around the Iron Dome. If you're MTG I
think it's a fair question to ask for her. But
this should be a gimme for anyone that's saying this
is a genocide and wants to see themselves on the
progressive left. You know, this is how she comes out
and frames it. Marjorie Taylor. Green's amendment does nothing to
cut off offensive aid to Israel nor end the flow
(19:41):
of US munitions to Gaza. Of course I voted against it.
What does it and you know, of course I voted
against it, and in that kind of tone there, I
think so many people are really taking a lot of
notice of what it does do is cut off defensive
iron dome capacity is while allowing the actual bombs killing
Palestine needs to continue. I've long stated that I do
not believe that adding to a deathcount of innocentvictims to
this war is constructive to its end. This is a
(20:03):
simple and clear difference of opinion that has long been established.
I remain focus on cutting the flow a flow of
US munitions that are being used to perpetuate the genocide
in Gaza, so you know, all all the other stuff
that we're funding Israel to do. That is totally fine.
And I think for there's two things that are on
the marriage. Why I think AOC is kind of wrong
in this position that everything is okay, or we'll cut off,
(20:26):
we'll cut off funding for Israel on the offensive stuff,
the defensive stuff, like I don't know, the US should
still be funding it. I think it's wrong really for
two kind of reasons, or for two possible kind of perspectives.
And the first one is they're their own independent country.
If they're in the middle of the genocide, we should
not be funding something that they could conceivably afford to
pay for them for themselves. Even if you think, yes,
(20:49):
this is saving innocentness, really live, so we need to
fund it, you know, they should be able to fund
it themselves, especially if they are, you know, war criminals
committing committing a genocide here, even in your own eyes,
I think that's just a completely unethical thing to do.
And secondly, and this is the point where I kind
of fall into the kind of camp that I fall into,
(21:10):
is that giving Israel these defensive quote unquote capacities enables
them to in a lot of ways continue their authentive
capacities because if they get hit, they are well. When
they very rarely get hit, they have the knowledge that
they are much more protected against the enemy strikes. Then
(21:32):
the enemy is protected against their strikes, so enables them
to attack the enemy a lot more aggressively, a lot
more viciously. In that case, in Gaza is kids, it's hospitals,
it's all sorts of civilians, and it has happened NonStop
with US government support. That Again, you just let yourself
do as a US representative for you know, nineteen months
(21:54):
now at this point, and you could really see a
train of lefting accounts kind of coming in and to
bunking her, she said. Francesca Ferentini says, your progressive colleagues
far more vulnerable than you still on business against genocide.
You've got to buck the liberal Zionist lobbyists in your ear.
Mohammed Shahada, who we've talked about in the show, is
a Palestinian research are very smart and very great follow
(22:17):
on Twitter. This is an Israeli far right MP admitting
that the Iron Dome has been the greatest curse on
the state of Israel because it allowed the Israel government
to manage the conflict and entirely ignore Palestinians and its
occupation with zero consequences. Reconsider your reconsider your stance, is
what he says, because yeah, he's saying it allows Palestinians
(22:39):
to essentially fester and allows him their suffering to continue
and the Israelis to continue to conflict that suffering. I
think it is a or inflict that suffering. It's a
very very clear point. It's just logic that when you
have the security in knowledge of knowing that whatever the enemy,
whatever in this case, the civilians managed to throw back
(23:00):
to or Hamas throws back some sort of you know,
weak rocket made at a fertilizer, which is literally how
they make their rockets, and you know it gets off
the iron dome. You have nothing stopping you, not the US,
not any threat against your civilians whatever, or your infrastructure whatever.
You have nothing stopping you from going full bore against
(23:22):
the civilians of Gaza and also civilians of by the way,
a lot of other different countries throughout the Middle East.
And I think there's a very very clear problem and
clear justification that anyone who says this is a genocide
and believes it truly should understand intuitively as why you
should not be sending any sort of money towards Israel,
even if it is for the Iron Dome. And you know,
(23:45):
I think more broadly though, this shows really some some
incredibly piss poor political instincts, because it's it's the same
thing with Biden, and I think the way, and because
with Biden, if you remember, she was one of those
people that until his last minutes as the Democratic candidate
in twenty twenty four, it was he was out there
(24:06):
supporting him, defending him, saying he was a great, true
progressive president who cares about our priorities. Again this is also,
by the way, as the genocidem was happening in Gaza,
she was out there saying this, defending him, you know,
providing him political cover. You know, that would be of
Hunter Biden's dreams. And this was all as everyone else
(24:28):
was falling away from him for his whole political world,
sole political structures of support were crumbling in rapid speed, right,
and she was the person there to come in and
give him support. What happened months later or weeks later,
Biden drops out is incredibly unpopular. There's real reckoning for
(24:49):
all the people that supported Biden and his delusions about
his age for a long time. And she and the
as the kind of face of the Progressive left in
elected office lent a bunch of credibility to that incredibly
toxic losing position that Biden was fit to serve, and
it did the Progressive leaps a lot of damage in
(25:09):
terms of credibility to stand up to effectless Democratic Party
when you had the leader of it essentially going out
there and saying that, oh, everything's fine with regards to Biden,
and we should support him because he did so much
for us. You know, I don't care how much he did.
I don't care if he redid the New Deal. If
you are trying to get something done within the Democratic Party,
(25:29):
if you're trying to change the Democratic Party, and you're
hitching yourself off to a guy that is giving the
Democratic Party a bad name, you're giving your movement a
bad name. You're giving your efforts for a change of
bad name. So it really is some stupid stuff. And
the same thing applies here with Gaza, because look at
the way the polling is going, look at the way
the culture is going. People are coming out calling this
(25:50):
the geniside. Every day. You got actors, you got a
smaller level of politicians, you got people, cultural figures, whatever.
Really pissed off about this stuff. The polling has been
more negative, has never been more negative, excuse me, towards
Israel than any other time in history of people are
going to in years to come look at you and
be like, how the hell could you support this? How
the hell could you ever sign onto this if you
(26:11):
were some sort of great leader of the kind of
pro pousetime progressive left, and again is going to give
the movement for change. It's going to give the movement
to make a better world a bad name because she
is at the front of it saying a bunch of dumb,
stupid things. I think the bottom line for it for
me is she fundamentally needs to stop being afraid of
(26:32):
being judged for, you know, taking a bold position in
yesterday's media environment. You know, yesterday's media environment would have
said Biden is a strong progressive candidate. The current media
environment when she was saying those things back last year
was that he was about to die in the second
and everyone hated him. But she was still caught up
and afraid of being judged in yesterday's media environment. Same
(26:54):
thing for Gaza. You know, a year ago, ninety two
weeks ago, it was all Israel's right in itself. The
way things are going now, it's this is a genocide,
and that cultural position is being spread widely and faster
and further than it ever has before. Yet she is
still afraid of being judged in yesterday's political landscape. I
(27:17):
hope she knows that she. I hope she truly believes
the stuff and she's not just going to become some
sort of a you know, John Fennerman lay figure who
completely does turn towards Israel because of pushback from online
And I feel like she knows what's right in this situation,
but she just again needs to stop being afraid of
being judged in yesterday's political landscape and give a sense,
(27:40):
get a sense of where the wind is blowing, and
actually come out ahead and on the right side of
an issue for once. It'd be very nice to see
there from AOC, but I have to say these political
instincts do not pretend well for future bigger roles. One
thing people are really talking about is a recent interview
(28:02):
where one goat interviewed another, and of course I'm talking
about the goat of quality journalism content production. Andrew Callahan
of Channel five absolutely love the work that he does,
and Hunter Biden and the work that he does smoking crack. No,
just kidding, but yeah, he had some very very interesting
clips in this interview that is really going to kind
(28:22):
of passed around and shared a lot. He goes off
on the Democratic Party and he actually has some kind
of really thoughtful analysis on his struggles with crack cocaine,
and of course the fact that his dad had a
big role in the war on drugs and the powder
versus crack disparity in sentencing and that was a really
(28:44):
really big dealm it was also really interesting to see
him effect on it. Let's go to some of these clips.
He was really the first one about how essentially saying
a little delusional here from Hunter to start saying that
he should not have dropped out of the presidential race.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Did you a kind of see him dropping out of
the race? Did you see that coming?
Speaker 7 (29:03):
No? No, I was. I thought that we had cleared
all the hurdles that they had set up for us.
And so if you remember, it was a horrible debate,
and there's no arguing that it was anything but an
absolutely horrible debate, and I think it scared the shit
out of a lot of people because that were already
concerned about his age. But as I say about everybody,
(29:25):
the thing that we're going to have to grapple with
as society that's bigger than Joe Biden is this how
we handle people that age in front of our eyes
and recognize that they may have lost a physical step,
but that does not mean they don't have the mental
capacity to continue to do their job.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
And what.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
It's not a good start there from Biden, he does
kind of from Hunter, you know, he's missing. One big
thing is the fact that his dad was the president
of the United States. Like, if you're Tony Bennett and
you want to go up at ninety one years of
age and sying on stage with Lady Gaga, like that's
perfectly blind, and people will give you a lot of
kudos and applause. Oh yeah, that's so great. But the
(30:01):
thing that they don't want is for the guy who
holds a nuclear codes, the guy who makes all these
very important decisions, to be somebody who they think cannot
do the job. So it is pretty obvious to anyone
with a brain. There Another thing that should have been
pretty pretty obvious, to be frank was the scandal around
the sale of the paintings that he apparently had no
(30:23):
idea about it, and this is, you know, see how
he frames it. And then I'll tell you the actual
reality of the situation. Here, let's say a.
Speaker 7 (30:30):
Little literally sat in the garage by virtue of my
choice and my desire and paint it for three years.
And then they and then they accused me of crimes
for painting? Do you mean not that I couldn't tell
my paint that it was a clear conspiracy to launder
money and to curry influence by selling a crylic on
canvas abstract painting by Hunter Biden.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
How do you prevent a purchaser paying too much so
as to ingratiate themselves with the First family.
Speaker 7 (30:56):
All of a sudden, the Iranians are going to change
their nuclear weapons program. I mean, it's such insane.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Meanwhile, these with Trump Mobile, we're going to be introducing
an entire package of products.
Speaker 7 (31:08):
They're selling gold telephones and sneakers and two billion dollar
investments in golf courses and selling tickets to the White
House for investment into their meme coin.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yeah, I mean to a certain extent, like when he says, oh, yeah,
you're peddling influence. And then Trump says, oh, Hunter Biden's
petting influences. Like it's like they're both right, and obviously
Trump is doing it on a scale that makes Biden's look,
you know, small and pathetic. But you are really seeing
a kind of almost I would say, dishonest situation when
it comes to Hunter there, because it's just like, yeah,
(31:42):
you know, you got these Ukraine, you just essentially saying here,
I did bribery on a smaller scale. And that's what
I think is so dishonest about it, because he was
out there selling those paintings. He's just like, he's no
background in art. He's doing god knows what on those
paintings and selling them to you know, a bunch of
different people, and those people had, you know, business in
front of the Biden's business, front of the obomdministration back then.
(32:02):
You know, he was really you know, using those as essentially,
if anyone wanted to curry favor, curry influence, they would
just pay a bazillion dollars for a pretty crappy painting
of Hunter Biden and then that would get their name
in front of the right people at the White House.
And again, to be one hundred percent clear, there is literally,
(32:24):
you know, it does not compare the amount of influence pedaling.
It's not even the same galaxy the amount of influence
pedaling that Trump did and Trump is doing right now
compared to what Biden, Jim Biden who is Biden's brother,
and Hunter Biden did in terms of the business, the
Ukrainian gas job, that's selling you to paintings, all that stuff.
(32:45):
It's not in the same ballpark as the mean coin
and the you know, whatever the hell else you know,
Trump and Malania and Don Junior are doing. But it
still does not mean that it didn't happen, And it
doesn't mean or it does mean really that you can't
make that case that you're you're honest, you're ethical, you're
against Trump, and you're essentially doing the same things that
Trump is doing on a smaller scale. It contributes really
(33:07):
to a big dissolution of trust in politics and politicians,
and it leads for people to say, oh, look at
these people, they're all the same. I may as well
just check out and not even pay any attention on this.
Another thing I think was kind of interesting here is
he really went after pod Save America and just essentially
a bunch of other people who had called on him
(33:27):
to drop out. Uh, you know, which I think we
don't really have to listen to that, but I think
it's it's very very interesting that he goes in and
to tax these people who you know, he he does
have right about the kind of you know, malign influence
on the Democratic Party and the fact that you know,
they're not really in touch with the base. But this
(33:47):
was the one instance really where they happened to be
the most on the notes because if you look at
the polling, if you just the reality on the ground,
if you look every time Biden opened his mouth, it
was kind of a game of Russian and Roulette of
what the hell is he going to stay? You know,
that is not a sustainable situation for the presidency. And
you know, I think it's very very fair to question
that it was just based on the last clip that
(34:08):
we just paid. You know, maybe Hunter wanted to keep
a good audience to have his paintings sold. You know,
maybe he wanted to keep his dad's name in a
place of high prominence so he could continue to get
good jobs from different companies and different countries that had
interests in front of the American government. I think that's
(34:29):
a perfectly plausible question to ask despite all these kind
of contrite and you know, nice sounding things that he says,
because if you look at oh, you know I I
he was the the person just begging and pleading for
his dad to stay in the race. And as you
can see here, and let's take a look at this clip. Here,
see what you have to say about pod Save America.
We actually, you know, I'm whiffling on some waffling on this.
(34:52):
I don't know, we'll screw it. But either way, the
point is, the point is that it is really up
for debate, I think on this stuff, and you will
never really know for sure. And with this point and
the Bid administration kind of being consigned to the dustman
of history, you know, it doesn't really matter too much.
But I think it is very very fair to ask
(35:12):
that and point out the connection to the fact that oh,
he is dying to keep his dad in the race.
He's saying please, and he's going, you know, swearing, saying
fuck you, fuck this, fuck that to anyone who said
that this guy should drop out. And he has probably
been the single person that's benefited the most from his
dad being government in terms of you know, being able
to sell his shady paintings for one hundred thousand dollars,
(35:35):
being able to get these you know, Ukrainian gas jobs
that he doesn't have any kind of connection to really,
So that is that is definitely a big part of it.
I think it's a very very fair question to ask,
but to give him some credit on the issue of
crack cocaine, he does make a pretty strong admission about
(35:55):
his dad's role and the kind of double treatment of
crack addicts versus powder cocaine addicts.
Speaker 7 (36:02):
This is like a PSA if you want to completely
utterly fuck up your life. You know, I don't think
that anything is necessarily oh you do it once you're addicted,
But there's about the closest thing that statement could be
true would be with crack cocaine.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Yeah, I mean, if you look at the impact and
communities in the inner city in the eighties, I mean
led to an entire generation being destroyed, left without parental
guidance and stuff like that.
Speaker 7 (36:26):
You know, when I went to Yea law school and
I had a professor Duke, who is one of the
key voices in the country at the time from a
policy perspective, in a law perspective about the inequities of
our drug laws, and you could very much make an
argument that, by the way, the Clinton Climbril that my
dad helped architect was the consequences of what you call
(36:49):
the crack wars during those period period of time, the
result of the war against crack cocaine, or was it
the result of the crack cocaine itself. I'm not saying
that crack in and of itself is in any ways
safe or recommend it, but the response to it, I
think was far more destructive in those communities than the
actual drug itself, which, by the way, like all drugs,
(37:09):
all addictions are completely dependent upon the way in which
a community responds to them. Nobody gets clean and sober
without community, Nobody gets clean and sober without support. If
you know, the response is you know, met with just violence,
(37:30):
from the dealing, to the to the to the destruction.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
I don't you know, do you think that like looking
back at the crime bill and stuff your dad and
that kind of Oh yeah.
Speaker 7 (37:41):
My point was when I was at Yale, i wrote
my senior analytical thesis was on the disparity between crack
and a powder cocaine sensing that was in nineteen ninety six,
in which I mean, we knew then, and you know,
that's when my dad became president. He did away with
all of that. I think that Obama did part of
it and he eradicated it and then.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Yeah, so that is a pretty good emission there. I
think you could obviously it's his dad, so he's not
gonna go crazy on him, but you can give him,
maybe give him a little more criticism than that. But
it's very interesting and kind of rare to see someone
who is in this position of power, who's kind of
one of the scions of a great American political family,
whatever you want to call it, if you really want
to go that far for the Bidens, but you know,
(38:24):
to come out and say, yeah, my policies or my
dad's policies caused real harm. And I am a first
hand victim of not those policies but the drug that
so many people were suffering from. And I was treated
so much better and so much differently because of the
fact that my name was a Biden. And this approach,
this strategy was wrong and essentially saying that all people
(38:46):
should be treated more like me and not like the
way my dad wanted to treat him when he passed
that crime bill way back in the day. He also
had an interesting moment where he broke down on why
crack cocaine and crack, with the difference crack and cocaine,
and why crack is so addictive. He broke that town
(39:06):
and then push the tea of all people responded and said, deep,
you know he knows what he's talking about. You know,
he knows first and the differences and why that shit
is so bad and toxic. So Hunter continues to be
a very very interesting guy. And I think it is
very very fair to point out the obvious corruption and
the obvious double dealing and influence pedaling that's going on,
(39:28):
while you can also say that Trump is doing it
ten times worse, and you can also say that Hunter
Biden wanted his dad to probably staying the race, yes,
because he liked his dad, but also because he enjoyed
the birks of it, while also saying he's a very
thoughtful guy, and he's thought a lot about the drug
stuff and his it seems to be in spite of
all those facts, in spite of all those corrupt corruption
and ties to dad and all that stuff, seems to
(39:50):
be someone who is eminently likable and also somebody who
has some pretty good reads, shall we say, on the
direction of the Democratic Party when his dad is not involved.
So very interesting interview, of course, great job to Channel five.
That is all the time we have for our show today.
(40:11):
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