907: Trump Prepares To Meet With Putin

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Hell everyone, My name is Spence Walsh. Welcome to today's show.
We have a good one for you. As always on
the show, today we are taking look at the Ukraine
summit coming up in a look at the various argumentation
on both sides as to why the war should be
continued or ended or at least beginning negotiations to end

(00:32):
the war. Also, a pretty disturbing report about the potential
replacement of PBS with brager you the conservative right wing
kids in doctrination machine. They just make animated videos talking
about how John Adams once said facts don't care about
your feelings. We'll have all the very weird details for

(00:55):
you on that. Also, zorods is gaining momentum, the support
of Barack Obama as promo is collapsing. We will take
a look at the new legitimacy and where both campaigns
stand at the moment. Also, we are taking looking at
Pete Budajet. She gave you a pretty poor answer, a

(01:17):
pissed poor answer, dare I say are Gaza? And got
hammered for it so much so he corrected course a
few days later. Also, we're taking a look at some
testimony from a Gaza doctor really fascinating, shared on the
Theo Broon podcast, talking about what exactly it means that
these kind of stories are making it to such big,

(01:41):
non political audiences. We have a great show for you today.
This is news once again. All videos will be on

(02:02):
YouTube by six o'clock on Friday in the Spencer Walsh
YouTube channel. So, without further ado, let's get into it.
So it may be the case now that Donald Trump
is set to begin negotiations for an end to the
war on Ukraine. Of course, that was something he promised
to do, you know, for twenty four hours in the
start of the war. But he has since led probably

(02:23):
the most incompetent series of negotiations that have ever been
led by any president ever in an attempt to end
a global conflict. Led by an America president. It's really
been a quagmire in terms of failures of the West
and really not doing right by the Ukrainian people for many,
many decades leading up to the outbreak of the Ukrainian
War in twenty twenty two. But we are really still

(02:44):
continuing to see the same bs from a whole bunch
of people in the kind of liberal and even conservative
established in circles about you know, we need to stand
by Ukraine till the bitter end, till the bitter end,
and that is just not really convincing anybody at this
point in time. And I want to go to this.
This is Dave Smith here talking to this guy William
Browner who's angrily tweeting about it. He's some sort of

(03:07):
you know, high high, high minded type who just thinks that,
you know, every Ukrainian man should be forced to fight
to the death. But he is up against Dave Smith
on Piers Morgan, and I want to play this cup
because it really shows you the really poor quality of
argumentation that's been playing out, and that just you really
toxic conversation that's been playing out in any sort of

(03:29):
stop when you whenever you bring up, hey, maybe we
shouldn't continue with this war that really is is hurting
a lot of people and try to bring an end
to it.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Let's try to negotiate an end to this nightmare that
never needed to happen.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yeah, that's exactly what Neville Chamberlain. But I'll come to.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Just the dumbest like what eighty iq Neville chamber That's right, anybody,
I mean.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
It's exactly like we could pause. It's exactly right with
what what Dave Smith is saying there, because it's it's
not a serious response. It's like, there's there's one lesson
that these people pick from in history, the moment you
try to advocate for any war, and then if you
want to, if you want to have some sort of
reasonable discussion about, hey, maybe this may not be the
best idea. And for here's why you know you're not saying, oh,
I love Putin, He's the best guy ever. I wish

(04:15):
I could move to Russia and have him as my leader.
No one's saying that. We're saying we should be a
little bit reasonable about the course of this war that
has not gone. Well, let's take a sake a little
bit more.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
What he has to say here against war is always
Neville Chamberlain. That is the only, the one and only
lesson of history that appeasement never works, an aggression is
always right.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
What don't you take.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
It doesn't work with the dictator You obviously don't know
Vladimir Putin.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Appeasement. We appease dictators all over the planet.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yes, I just thank you.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
That I actually meant that I think was more than
just surface level and your response is with the.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Is with the and these people it's like you ask
them what they feel about gaz It, you ask them
to feel about any other kind of US foreign policy
around the world where we are time time again support
really bad people killing a bunch of civilians all the time,
and they always have some you know, sitting on their
hands morel hemming in high or they're saying we're right
to support the dictators because it's good for American policy.
What these people don't admit is they're causing really the

(05:13):
destruction of Ukraine and supporting the continued destruction of Ukraine
by refusing to get into any of these piece of cootagents.
And to be clear, you know, Putin hasn't been any
sort of a real partner either, But these people are
more than happy to keep going with it because of
the fact that they are in this for US foreign
policy interests, nothing more, nothing less. And we should be

(05:35):
honest about it. We should make these people who are
advocating for this stuff be honest about it as well.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Dommas like slogan are we we appease dictators all over
the world, we overthrow democratic exactly what are you even
talking about?

Speaker 3 (05:50):
You're using all these ad hominem attacks. But but basically we're.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Our US history and.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
That's a bunch of nonsense. You obviously don't know the
argument I'm saying the argument.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
You know that you don't know the issues. You're you
obviously are not educated on the issues.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Now we're getting another reason why is for his own
personal survival.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
He's not going to sack off from this war to
to to then appease him at this moment.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
To give him Ukraine is just a.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
You're not giving him. You're not giving him anything. It's
not yours to give. He took it and you can't
get it back. Deal with that reality.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Sorry, you could.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
You could impose crippling sanctions on him, you could give
the Ukrainians, and then you could negotiate from a position
of strength. You don't negotiate from a position of weakness,
which is what's being.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
There's Joe Bidens, There's.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
And you know smith Is is really breaking through here
because he's just going off of US history and it's
just like we have tried to do all these things.
The reality is we don't have the power to exact
every single good outcome and getting Ukraineolo's territory back would
be a good outcome, but we just don't have the
power to do that. So are we going to continue
to put Ukrainian civilians at the continued functioning of Ukraine

(07:06):
as an independent country at risk by prolonging this war
more and more and draining Ukrainian society, because that is
what's happening at the moment, or are we going to
accept the fact that this was a poorly managed war
where you know, Russia was able to conquer territory that
it had no right to conquer. But the fact is
the US can use its strength get Ukraine out of

(07:28):
the situation that it arguably put Ukraine in by pushing
this war to fight till the very end, and actually
get some sense and security for the Ukrainian civilians. But
you know, it is at this current moment it is
unclear whether that is actually going to happen. Because this
is the latest from the Financial Times, Putin is hailing

(07:51):
Trump's energetic and sincere stance in terms of efforts to
end the Ukraine War. It seems like things may be
going pretty well. We may be moving towards a point
where we can get to some sort of productive solution
actually ending this war and actually having the sense of
what Dave Smith said come through. But we have this
here at the bottom. This was kind of a midway

(08:13):
through Zonski and keeps the European allies to engage in
a frantic week of diplomacy to convinced Trump to consider
their positions ahead of his first one on one meeting
with Putin since twenty nineteen. And that's been a real
pressure point because they're what they're essentially going to talk about.
What Trump is saying here at the top is we
want to go in. We want to just talk about

(08:35):
a ceasefire. We want to just end the war, end
the fighting now, and then set the stage for a
more permanent negotiation. And that's something that the Ukrainians have
you know, broadly supported, or the Kiev has probably supported
their credit. They're not saying, no, we have to keep
going for whatever reason, you have to keep supporting us.
They've they've crossed that bridge to give Kiev and the
Ukrainians and Europeans some credit there. But what what is

(08:58):
going to be unclear is if is going to take that.
And also what is unclear is what the hell Trump
is going to offer to putin when they're alone in
that room, you know, as they can they can get
sometimes they can just start throwing away things to each
other that maybe their their staff and their advisors, the strategist,
especially Trump, what they wouldn't want Trump to to give him.
So what is what is that going to look like?

(09:19):
What are they getting? What is Trump prepared to offer
for the ceasefire? And will it be some sort of
a land concession or some sort of promise to talk
about seriously a land concession and that in turn could
endanger the whole process of the negotiations because land heals
and the land territory is something that Ukraine feels like,
it kind of knows that it has to entertain at

(09:40):
this point the way the war is going, but it
really does want to hold out to the last possible moment.
And the Europeans are in that same boat. They are
even back in Ukraine harder than the United States ever
has so, you know, especially on a political level as well.
So it's gonna be very interesting to see what happened here.
And this is this is to put in PERSPECTI where

(10:01):
Trump is at. If the meeting, he says, doesn't go well.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Any consequences if Vladimir Putin does not agree to stop
the war after your meeting on.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Friday, Yes they will.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
What will there will be?

Speaker 5 (10:16):
There will be I don't have to say, there will
be very severe consequences.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yes, yeah, please, yeah, So he doesn't have to say.
But if the meeting doesn't go up to his satisfaction,
you know, he could come and really derail the whole
process and we could be back to square one, where
we're on this kind of just pointless, incredibly unproductive war
where people on both sides are dying in a stalemate.

(10:40):
It's like World War One all over again. No one
ever thought we'd see these kind of trench warfare conditions again,
but that is what we have in Ukraine. It's just
such a pointless situation. And we can look at you again,
we can look at the failures, as Dave Smith said
later on, but what we have to do is people
are dying on a daily basis. The United States is
not prepared to continue going with this war. We need
to face that real I mean, you need to do

(11:01):
what's best for the people on both sides. And I
think you know we can see that here with what
Trump is saying to kill Mead in Fox News on
this interview.

Speaker 5 (11:10):
I don't know that we're going to get an immediacaspire,
but I think it's going to come. See. I'm more
interested in immediate piece deal, getting piece fast, and depending
on what happens with my meeting, I'm going to be
calling up President Zelensky and let's get him over to
wherever we're going to meet. I don't know where we're
going to have the second meeting, but we have an
idea of three different locations, uh, and will be including

(11:34):
the possibility because it would be by far the easiest
of staying in Alaska. You know, we have we have
big flights of and he is the same thing. We
have a lot of planes going. When the head of Russia,
the head of says, you know, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 6 (11:47):
Go So, mister President, did you tell Zelenski to be ready?

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Did you tell him to be ready to come? Should
you start making legitimate progress?

Speaker 5 (11:54):
I don't want to talk about a second meeting, even
to him. I don't want to even indicate that there
might be a second meeting. Maybe there will, maybe the
I don't want to talk down.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
He be indicated. It pretty strongly there.

Speaker 5 (12:04):
But it would be certainly convenient if we had a
very good meeting, because I'm gonna let them negotiate the deal.
I'm not gonna negotiate the deal. I'm gonna let them
negotiate the deal. So we're gonna be calling President Zelinsky
if it's a good meeting. If it's a bad meeting,
I'm not calling anybody. I'm going home. I'll call you.
I'll do Fox and Friends some morning and we'll have

(12:24):
a lot of fun whatever.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
It's just like all these clips like it's it's so
not the point, but he's just so weird. So it's like,
how's this, how's this like a serious strategy, and how
can you also, by the way, take what he says
seriously about we want to take a meeting. Maybe it's
just like you just gotta guess and see what happens.
There's very hard with Trump to try and analyze or
understand every anything about what's going on before it actually happens.

(12:49):
But you know, with with that with that quote, with
that remark there saying you know, he'll just go home
and you'll just do you know, fox and Friends if
it goes bad and he doesn't get you know, sees
fire red, but maybe he he doesn't think he's gonna
get a ceasefire, so maybe he'll keep going. It's it's
like it is a it is a whole mess. And
the truth is, when it comes to Donald Trump, the
best way to understand him, and the people closest to

(13:10):
him who have you know, are not currently in his
orbit right now saying because they're trying to do it
right now, they say, the best way to influence him
is be the last person in his ear, and his
last person is here gonna be someone who's a little
sensible about this, like Dave Smith, a lot of other Americans,
even a lot of other Ukrainians who say this has
gone on long enough. You know, it's was handled awfully.
It was a poor situation, but we need to end

(13:32):
this now before it gets any worse. Or are there
people like that other guy Dave Smith was talking to
on Beers Morgan, who are gonna be like, this is appeasement.
You're gonna look like Neville Chamberlain. You could support someone
like Hitler coming back again. You know this is that
you need to stand strong and be strong listed president
and all this stuff, and then he could just go
home and never restart the negotiations, never get to Linskey

(13:53):
to a second meeting. I think that is very possible
if you look at who is surrounding him in his government,
in his cabinet. So it is a very very tenuous
state of affairs. But let's hope we see some sense
along the lines of what Dave Smith's A lot of
Americans and a lot of other Ukrainians are arguing about
this current situation in what really feels like it would

(14:16):
have been dismissed as a parody headline back in the
first of Trump administration. Donald Trump has now kicked out CBS,
destroyed CBS, destroyed mister Rogers, destroyed Sesame Street, Big Bird, Elmo,
all of that, and replaced it with prager you. Yes,
that is right. This is the headline here from vox
dot com. The White House already has a preferred alternative BBS,

(14:40):
and it may be in countless classrooms already, and that is,
of course, pegger you. It's kind of been a meme
at this point in kind of online circles. It was
everywhere that were putting YouTube ads up of their videos
all over the place. They're essentially a right wing propaganda
out with the idea is prager you university, you're supposed
to play these to kids, kind of older kids, and

(15:01):
also now they're going into younger kids as well, but
just to indoctrinate them into these conservative values and just
really blatant over the head right wing propaganda that now
Donald Trump wants to send two kids instead of Sesame
Street and normal programming like that. This is what they
say in box. Amid the stripping of these federal funds

(15:23):
last month, the White House this is for PBS. They
just cut the funds for PBS last month. The White
House debuted a new educational partner at this launch event
for its new Founders Museum exhibit Praeger You a nonprofit
organization that specializes in creating right leaning educational short videos
for adults and children. And this stuff is already been

(15:45):
making its way into classrooms. It's already been, you know,
kind of adopted officially by right wing governments. You know,
this was in Oklahoma. There was a full adoption by
the the courts there and by the government there to

(16:05):
to use pre in these classrooms. This is educational Christian
Christian content, and it's very easy to imagine as PBS
is now officially done and dusted. You're gonna start to
see these programs kind of get these state backing from
the Trump administration to put them into you know, I'm
sure one Oklahoma's already done it. There's probably gonna be
a bunch of red states that would do it soon.

(16:26):
So it's very very possible if Florida has done it
as well. Ron DeSantis has put these approved, these these
videos for his classrooms in the market. This whole critical
race theory uh storms from a few years back. But
let's let's take a look at what they actually have.
Like this is uh, this is an ai John Adams
telling us that facts don't care about our feelings.

Speaker 7 (16:53):
I am John Adams, blunt, stubborn, and the indispensable voice
for independence and the Continental Congress. They called me obnoxious
and disliked. I call it telling the truth. Facts are
stubborn things, and whatever may be our wishes or inclinations,

(17:13):
they cannot alter the state of facts. In other words, friend,
facts do not care about our feelings.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Oh wow, oh, I feel like honestly if you played that.
Because kids today are so online, I think more than
a lot of adult sort of millennials even realize, Like
I think if you played that in a room of kids,
they just burst out laughing, maybe like they just, Aha,
you said the meme, because it's it's a meme at
this point, just a joke. It's like you're supposed to
be this is the time you're actually supposed to be

(17:43):
seriously learning about American history, about who John Adams was,
about how the country is found in and now you
just have you're instead of watching you know, a PBS
documentary or some sort of animated video from them. You know,
you're now kids are gonna have to watch John Adams
being like facts, don't care about your feelings in AI form,

(18:03):
like this is what we are headed towards as a country.
Here's another one. This is about Christopher Columbus. This is
the prayer you take on Christopher Columbus.

Speaker 8 (18:13):
Slavery is as all this time, and it's taking place
in every corner of the world, even amongst.

Speaker 6 (18:19):
The people I just left.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
So beginning taken as a.

Speaker 6 (18:22):
Slave is better than being killed.

Speaker 8 (18:24):
Not before you judge, you must ask yourself, what did
the culture and society at the time treat as no
big deal slave?

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Yeah, so slavery is no big deal. It's better than
being taken as and killed, you know, So that is
the justification. That is what they're going with for Christopher Columbus. Here,
just like you, you become a smarter person, you get
a better understanding the world. I would argue, you become
a more moral person, even if you know the wrongs

(18:54):
they have been done in history, and if you're not
an idiot about them, and you have to tell lies
about this guy, it's like, yeah, yeah, Christopher Columbus. Did
he sail across the ocean blue in fourteen ninety two?
Yes he did. Did he land in what we consider
America today, No he did not. Did he spread a
bunch of smallpox and rape and murder a bunch of
native people? Yes he did. It's just it's an objective fact,

(19:15):
and instead of justifying it, you know, instead of bending
over backwards to justify it, why not to be like, hey,
this happened, but you know, then you can make your
whole conservative point from there. It's just it's such a
telling indication about the conservative mind that when you are
presented with just pretty much undisputable historical facts, you just

(19:36):
have to come up with all these excuses and all
these justifications for the people just explaining away bad things
really or like rape and murder that people did hundreds
of hundreds of years ago just to make yourself feel
good and just to I don't even know why. It's
just like, yeah, he did these things. It doesn't demean you,
it doesn't it's not an attack on you. It's just

(19:56):
the reality. Let's deal with the reality. But it's you know,
as we can see here, with the trudministration all throughout
and now they want to spread it down to our kids. Now, facts,
contrary to what AI John Adams says, are not that
big of a deal to these people. I mean really
throughout the conservative movement. It just it shows just a

(20:17):
special type of bankruptcy, intellectual bankruptcy, moral bankruptcy when you
can't just deal with things that are pretty much objectively
believed to have happened, and you know, I don't want
to say fit them into your ideology. We just managed
to subserve, like subsume them and understand them without trying
to you know, justify them and just excuse things that

(20:37):
Christopher Columbus did along time. It's like, yeah, so what,
let's let's let's get the sense of the situation here,
and they do the same thing, which is probably even
more outrage just with the goddamn Civil War and Robert E.
Lee and Ulysses S.

Speaker 6 (20:50):
Grant what it was a little awkward. I was a
bit of a mess, but I did try to be accommodating,
not demanding. Lee was a good man. We had fought
together in the Mexican American War, but this time we
were just caught on the opposite side of things.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
And I get that also, Not to mention being completely
insane and just being a really downplaying on the horrors
of the Civil War and the cause of the Civil War.
Grant in real life didn't think that way. He thought,
in fact, the exact opposite. This is a direct quote
from him in his memoirs book or whatever. He's well
known public quote. Robert Ely's cause was, I believe, one

(21:29):
of the worst for which a people ever fought, and
one for which there was the least excuse. So he said,
the Civil War cause of the South was stupid. And
if you really pressed it, Dennis Prager, if you really
pressed the Praguer, you people, are they really going to
back that up? Are they really gonna even believe that themselves. No,
of course, not thinking, oh, it was about states rights

(21:50):
and all the dumb shit that you hear from conservatives
on an old basis, because they can't deal with the facts.
Contrary to their chest beating about oh, we are the
ones who carry about facts. They can't deal with it.
They can't even deal with Robert E. Lee actually said
about the situation, and then they said it animated him
to say something completely different. It is just it's it's insane.
Here's another one with the heroic activists from back in

(22:13):
the day, Booker T. Washington for education in the wake
of the Civil War. Here's Booker T. Washington's message to
two children about slavery.

Speaker 9 (22:26):
It's true here in my time, no matter how hard
we work, Sadly, there is still often mistreatment and racial
discrimination towards us Black Americans.

Speaker 5 (22:34):
We're really sorry that you have to deal with segregation
and racism.

Speaker 9 (22:38):
Your sympathy is nice, Leila, but know that you have
nothing to be sorry about. You and Leo have done
nothing wrong and have indeed been quite respectable. Future generations
are never responsible for the sins of the past.

Speaker 10 (22:51):
Okay, I'll keep doing my best to treat everyone well
and won't feel guilty about historical stuff.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Good, It's true, Yeah, don't feel guilty about that historical stuff.
You know, it's no big deal. It's just like, yeah,
obviously you shouldn't be beating yourself on the head about
this historical stuff all at the same time. But you
gotta understand what happened, you know. It's a very very
fine line. And it's a line though that prayer you

(23:18):
is very far away from when it comes to actively
learning from historical events in a normal way. And it
really like, as someone who I really do think that
the power of history is really a lot more than
what people give it credit for in terms of understanding
how the past helps you understand the future and all that.

(23:39):
I could go on and on and on, but to
really just desecrate it in this way, and to just
have people not have kids all across the country, you know,
and they don't grow up being Republicans, They don't grow
up thinking that Christopher Columbus was the best word. This
is where the next generation is molded. And if this
really does become widespread in a bunch of red states,

(23:59):
or even if ross the Huntry kind of federally mandated.
You know, it really is an absolute desecration of history
that I think will have broad, broad implications on our
ability as a society to understand stuff and really understand
how what came before influences the current moment and how
we can make decisions on the current moment by learning

(24:20):
from what came before. You know that when we take
approaches like this the history, when we go with the
prayer you method, that stuff gets completely decimated. It is
it is not part of it. We don't learn from anything.
We just tell ourselves lies and then really make the
same mistakes that our ancestors and our forebears did just

(24:42):
the same way. So really really stupid stuff and a
really just sign of the times that something that would
have been a parody headline, you know, four or five, six,
eight years ago, is now looking like reality. Zormam Nanni
is gaining steam and momentum in his mayor race, including
some key legitimacy and buying from the Democratic establishment. And

(25:05):
Andrew Cuomo can't help but just melt down about it.
This is a pretty major article here in the New
York Times. Some Democrats panicked over Ahamadannie Obama called him.
That's essentially for this from mar Gay in the New
York Times opinion section, and she essentially says that not
only did Obama pick up the phone, call him, congratulate him, Mom,

(25:27):
Donnie on his victory, and apparently even give him some
advice on how to provide hope to people in dark
times and then immediately snatch it away the moment you
get to office, like Obama did. You know, hopefully Zoran
ignores some of that advice if he knows what's good
for him. But you know, the advisors whenever they talked
to and they met with the team, all that stuff.
What this is, what this article represents is a Obama

(25:48):
world endorsement in the kind of insider channels of Zora
mam Daandi. That is what this is. And it's a
sign that yes, these people, at least in the Obama
faction of the Democratic Party, people who work for Obama,
It'll Bono himself. They see which way the wind is blowing.
They see that this guy is going to be popular
and that he is where the energy is like almost

(26:08):
completely really in the Democratic base, and they want to
associate themselves with that. They want to get on board
the mom Donnie train and they don't want to be
left behind. But the question for Mom Donnie is will
he make sure that he is driving the train when
things come to albody. Yes, you need this institutional support,

(26:29):
you need this institutional buy in. But the tricky situation,
the tricky thing comes when you're in office and you
have this institutional support and you have these powerful people
telling you, maybe you want to ease off of this policy,
maybe you want to water this down here, water this
down there. And he has to have the strength and
the ability the political you know, cojone is to say

(26:51):
the political organization to back up his claims that, no,
I have this mandate. You supported me. I'm going to
do my policies for your city in the way that
I said out to do them. You should support me,
and you should do it.

Speaker 5 (27:05):
You know.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
I'm sure he's gonna do it in this kind of
you know, conciliatory way, not just aggressive, you know, Lynnon B. Johnson,
in this my way to the highway type of way
of going about it. But he needs to make sure
that he is driving the bus and he is doing
his policies on his own terms. If that's the case,
then I welcome the institutional support, but it's on Mom
Donnie here to know that they're going to try, at

(27:29):
one point or another on one policy or another when
he gets into office, butt their heads in and try
and get him to water things down, which is only
gonna hurt Mom Donnie politically, not any of those estabption
figures that lent their name. So he needs to know
he's driving the bus. He needs to do his own
policies on his own terms. That is the thing about
getting that institutional support, institutional support, because you got to

(27:51):
make sure you know you're driving the train, you're driving
the bus. You are in control of the situation if
you're zor on mam Nanni. So it's gonna be in
to see how he handles that. Meanwhile, Andrew Cuomo is
continuing his kind of frantic campaign, his third party campaign.
Here he's talking about this passage of Zoran's Law because

(28:13):
the only OPPO research that he could find on Mamdanni
was that, oh, he lives in affordable housing, even though
his dad is a professor and his mom is a
kind of like mid level director.

Speaker 11 (28:26):
Rent stabilized units when they're VAKA should only be rented
to people who need affordable housing, not people like Zoran Mandanmi.
You don't need to be renting rent stabilized units to
wealthy people. Otherwise, what you're doing is you're refusing the system.
I'm gonna propose not rent that apartment by law.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Except to a person who actually needs.

Speaker 11 (28:51):
Affordable housing, and I'm gonna call it Zoran's law because
it's an abuse of the system.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
So yeah, he's just interesly saying that man Donnie abused
the system by getting a rent stabilized unit when he was,
you know, relatively well off. He made about one hundred
and fifty K, which you know, in New York sounds crazy,
but in New York it is kind of a middle class,
lower middle class income, which is really really insane considering
the high levels in come in to quality, especially in

(29:18):
a place like Manhattan within New York City. But build
a blazoo. Even the mayor that Mom Donnie said was
the best of his lifetime had a great response to this.
He said, I did a rent freeze in almost two
million hardworking New Yorkers benefited. Zora, Mom Donny wants to
a rent freeze. You know who doesn't want a ren freeze?
Andrew Cuomo, and he thinks he can trick us into
forgetting that and saying, oh, yeah, here's this thing about

(29:39):
mom Donnie lives in an affordable house. He lives in
a rent stableized unit. But was just like, dude, you
live in a Westchester mansion and you then moved from
that mansion to a Midtown apartment that is worth way
more than what the average New Yorker is making, and
it is not comparable to the average New Yorker's life whatsoever.
And you don't support any of the policies that Mam

(30:01):
donnie supports to actually ease the housing crunch and the
affordability crisis of housing for the people in New York.
So remind like, what's the point of you even bring
this up again? Like, seriously, what are we doing here?
And Zoran, by the way, has kept up you know,
it's not the same pace, but he has kept up
with the quality videos. This was one in response to

(30:22):
a revelation from New York Times that, instead of calling Obama,
Clomo actually called Trump on advice and to coordinate on
how to beat Zora. Mam donnie, imagine that when you're
trying to win over a Democratic city taking advice from
Donald Trump when your opponent is taking advice from Barack

(30:42):
Obama's That's not a good look. Not a good look,
and Zoron capitalizes on it here.

Speaker 12 (30:48):
I would be remiss if I did not directly address
some of the news that we saw come out just
a few hours ago, which is that the president of
this Countrynald Trump, has been coordinating with Andrew Cuomo in
direct conversation with the former governor. It is Trump billionaires

(31:09):
who have been opposing our campaign's vision for a city
that New Yorkers can afford. It is Donald Trump himself
who has been directly conspiring with candidates who have decided
to give up the people that they are supposed to
protect in lieu of securing power through the assistance of

(31:32):
that same administration in Washington, d C. This should be
erase about addressing the questions of who will make the
city affordable, who will ensure that each and every New
Yorker is safe, Who will bring our city forward, not
an audition for the best jester for Donald Trump and
his billionaire supporters.

Speaker 8 (31:53):
Woo.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
That is a great way of framing it, and it's
an absolutely The focus on Trump, I think is also
going to be very effective for a city, and it's
going to go against what Cuomo's whole thing is. I'm tough,
I'm going to go against Trump. And not only that,
he comes out with this really incredible video against Cuomo
just two days ago.

Speaker 12 (32:13):
Four years ago, Andrew Cuomo resigned in disgrace. And you
probably know.

Speaker 13 (32:16):
Why Governor's office kept the nursing home death data secret.

Speaker 14 (32:20):
Clomo aggressively growthed an aid inappropriately touched on a female
state trooper use.

Speaker 8 (32:25):
Of state resources or COVID nineteen memoir.

Speaker 12 (32:28):
Less well known is what he spent the last four
years doing. Besides getting trounced in the Democratic Crime, he
almost started Innovation Strategies LLC to represent individuals and corporations
in a variety of matters definitely not vague. Last year
it raked in more than half a million.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Man of the people there by the way.

Speaker 12 (32:44):
Who paid for Cuomo's services, he refuses to say, But
what journalists have been able to piece together is trumbling.
In April, Bloomberg revealed the Cuomo advised a cryptocurrency exchange
based in the Seychelles as it faced federal investigations. Then
in May, Politico reported that Cuomo failed to disclose two
points six million dollars in stock options to the New
York City conflict of interest for his excuse. The stocks

(33:05):
were technically owned by Innovation Strategies LLC, of which is
the soul for Proper. Finally, in June, the New York
Times uncovered the Cuomo had worked with his longtime friend
Andrew Farcas on a luxury marina project in Puerto Rico.
Farcas's previous partner on luxury marias in the Caribbean, Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 7 (33:21):
We got jer.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Markers there, you go, I mean that is this Andrew Cuomo.
He really this is a pretty brutal, brutal attack and
just creating someone who creating a character, creating a vision
of Andrew Cuomo, who's just completely and totally out of touch,
exists in a network of billionaires in wealth that most

(33:45):
New Yorkers, you know, understandable, would have no connection to.

Speaker 12 (33:47):
Think about Andrew Clomo. Once you think you found out
about all of his scandals, you find out about another,
and then another and then probably another.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Yeah, so pretty pretty brutal stuff there. And here he
is hitting Cuomo again earlier today.

Speaker 14 (34:03):
Also my college.

Speaker 5 (34:04):
Courtney Gross asked him if he would release his client list.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
He said no because there would be some disclosure problem.

Speaker 12 (34:11):
But he's got two point six million dollars in stock
options for a nuclear company.

Speaker 6 (34:16):
And I'm wondering what that client list release.

Speaker 15 (34:18):
Video you put out for.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Are you trying to liken him to Jeffrey.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Epstein to get New Yorkers to.

Speaker 14 (34:24):
Pair him with somebody that is extremely dislikable.

Speaker 12 (34:28):
I don't need to do much to make the governor
appear extremely dislikable. True, true tent of that video was
to shine a light on what journalists have uncovered over
many months, which is the fact of what the former
governor did after resigning in disgrace. We know that which
has been reported, and yet we also know that there

(34:49):
is likely more because, as is the case with Andrew Cuomo,
when you think you found out about all of the scandals,
there seems to always be another one.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Yeah, so pretty unrelenting stuff. And I think the ties
to Cuomo to Trump and to this kind of world
of billionaires and just completely disconnection from the average everyday
person is going to be very very effective. Take this
from Fox News or this is Siena pole that they
put on Fox News. Among conservative Zora Mamdani is leading

(35:20):
twenty three percent of the vote eighteen percent of the
vote with Andrew Clomo of course Curtis ly while the
actual conservative the race has forty percent, but he is
beating Andrew Cromo and Eric Adams, a monk conservatives, Which
just shows you the brilliance and authenticity of Zoron and
the power that comes from actually stating the politics you

(35:40):
believe unapologetically and backing them up and actually being a
kind of nice, normal, charming person who comes off as human.
The momentum could not be more behind Zoron at the moment,
but it is so important, especially as he gets those
Democratic establishment figures trying to come in be all conciliatory now,
but then co opt his campaign, get him to water

(36:02):
down his key agenda at the most important moments, that
he remembers that he is the one with the mandate
and he is the one steering that ship. I find
Pete Budage Edge to be a very interesting guy. He
ran a very dishonest campaign against Bernie Sanders in twenty
twenty for the Democratic primary for president. Kind of went

(36:25):
away for a little bit grew a beard, went on
THEO Vaughn and Andrew Schultz. He acted all cool and
essentially made it clear to everyone that he was going
to run for president in twenty twenty. But then he
went on Pod Save America, which is the biggest podcast
listened to by really the heart of the Democratic base,
and he was asked about an issue that, although it

(36:45):
seems anathema to so many people in Washington, DC, actually
really matters to a lot of Democratic voters, which is Gaza.
And boy, oh boy, oh boy, did those answers not
go well. The word I heard going around and a
lot of especially kind of more left wing circles, was pathetic.
So essentially what he did, we just asked about some

(37:06):
pretty important questions and he activated full McKinzie consultant mode.
Let's take a look.

Speaker 14 (37:12):
Do you think it's time to recognize a Palestinian state?

Speaker 13 (37:15):
I think that that's a profound question that arouses a
lot of the biggest problems that have happened with Israel's
survival is real just yes or no? Just yes or
no in the diplomatic scene, and many of the people
who have taken that step historically have done so for
different reasons than what we see happening with European countries.

(37:38):
I think we need to step back and we need
to do whatever it takes to ensure that there is
a real two state solution and that no one, not
even likes in Natanyahu can veto the international community's commitment
to a two state solution where you have Palestinians and
Israelis living with safety, with security, with rights. I believe

(37:59):
that can and we have to actually show some commitment
to it.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
So maybe I'm crazy, but listening to that, did you
have any idea whether he actually supports recognizing a palace
and he had state? Like all I heard was a
bunch of word salad, a bunch of kind of corporate
consultants speak. And then at the very end, we actually
have to recognize a two state solution. We really need
to do whatever it takes for a good two state solution.

(38:25):
But am I going to recognize one of those two
states in that two state solution that I say we
need to do whatever it takes to achieve. I won't
tell you. I don't know. We'll save it for another day.
I haven't gotten enough pull testing back on that. I mean,
it really is incredible, incredible stuff. And then here is
would you vote to oppose sending weapons to Israel? Here
is what he had to say on that front.

Speaker 14 (38:46):
More than half of Senate Democrats just voted to oppose
the sale of over half a billion dollars worth of
US bombs and guns to Israel. A lot of them
are longtime supporters of Israel. Would you have voted to
oppose sending those weapons?

Speaker 13 (39:01):
I think we need to insist that if American taxpayer
funding is going to weaponry that is going to Israel,
that that is not going to things that shock the conscience.
And look, we see images every day that shock the conscience.
So much of this is complicated, but what's not complicated
is that if a child is starving because of a

(39:24):
choice made by a government, that is unconscionable more.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Than yeah, So this is really the kind of classic
democratic strategy that we see here. It's like, we can't
be sending weapons to countries that do things that shock
the conscience. That you know, then we see things every
day that from Gaza that shock the conscience. But what
I actually do the thing that I'm kind of hinting

(39:51):
that I'm gonna do, but not saying we'll leave that unanswered,
We'll leave that for another day. Haven't gotten appult. It's
the same thing as the recognition of the Palestine state.
He can p as much possible lip service, as in
as much kind of jargoning corporate speak as he you know,
can do. He can do it all day along. He's
he's talented enough to do that. But he doesn't have
this stn't he doesn't have the principle. He doesn't have

(40:13):
the internal spine to say, Okay, I've said these things,
I'm gonna stand firm and actually take a coherent position
on it. That if you're a normal person watching this
interview with the politician, you can get a sense of Okay, hey,
that's what this guy's gonna do. And normally, you know,
he would have gotten away with this. He would have

(40:33):
been it would have been, oh, you know, no big deal.
He's on a kind of democratic podcast. He's he's being
mainly millofed about an issue. Gase is the most important
political issue. But this is a real testament to how
times have changed. This is the headline here in Political
Buddha Jedge discovers DEM's twenty twenty eight litmus test Israel.
He has heard about this. Uh you know who once

(40:56):
had a ready answer about the US Israel relationship, liking
it to a friendship where you try guide them to
a better place. It's a line that used to go
over well with the Pod Save America guys who wants
clap four and not along with it back on stage
in twenty nineteen, But this week they know longer did.
And this is something that you really see here with
a lot of different a lot of different people used

(41:17):
to Pod Save America. I've seen them on Twitter really
starting to put the pressure to Israel Center. Ruben Diego
said his position was evolving. And by the way, there's
a great cheat code to see who wants to run
for president. Governors like Wes Moore and Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania,
both staunch defenders of Israel, are keeping their powder dry
and decline to engage in Nuts and Bull's policy questions.
Former VP Kamala Harris, who carried the nomination in twenty

(41:37):
twenty four, did not comment for a story on this.
You know, and this is something that just does not
resonate with people. And he comes up and says in
this later interview, I get it. It's important to be
clear about something so enormous and painful. It's just that
it's so enormous and so painful that sometimes words can fail.

(41:58):
It's not the problem necessarily what you said. It's what
you didn't say and how you said what you said.
It's you didn't say it with any clear It's like,
it's not like you're downplaying the situation in Gaza. You're
saying it's a horrible thing. You're saying it shocks the conscience,
but you're still not even committing to any firm hardcore
policy positions on it. And people now, especially with the

(42:20):
betrayals of the Democratic Party to their base in recent years,
people can really on the Democratic side can see right
through this bs, especially on an issue that they really
care about, like Gaza. Buddha Jedge said he would have
signed on to Senator Bernie Sanders proposed arms of Barco
against Israel, would recognize Palistin as part of a Tuesday solution,

(42:41):
and thought the US should not pass a ten year
agreement between US and Israel on foreign military aid Karte
Blanche in this This response came after this interview, so
it's something that he got so much bullback for so
much online attention, and you know, he wants to be president,
he wants to gain people support. So he calibrated, he

(43:02):
re shifted, and he said, you know, I'm actually gonna
have to take some firm policy positions on this. Oh shucks,
I guess I'd better do it. Here goes and he said,
now giving all the firm commitments to what he didn't
say on the in the firm commitments that he didn't
give on the Pod Save America interview. And I think
that that stuff, even, I mean, there really had to

(43:22):
be a real dearth of talent. I think in the
twenty twenty eight Democratic primary there to be people with,
you know, no real moral credibility for stuff like that,
this kind of Johnny come Lately, uh, clearly responding to pleasure,
clearly not having any principles that you actually believed before
you started running for president, you know that kind of stuff.
I don't think it'll fly unless you know, there's some

(43:44):
really bad candidates, some really bad options to pick from
for Democrats in twenty twenty eight. And I think it's
a really good sign of the Democratic Democratic Party base,
especially finally believing their own eyes and not just listening
to the media establishment telling them to be quiet, to
shut up, to fall online, to ignore what they see
with their own eyes. And now one of what we're seeing,

(44:04):
especially on this issue is really for the first time.
You see it with Pete boodhage Edge, you see it
with uh you know Geyago, you see it with all
these other twenty eight hopefuls here, people who want to
win for president. You're seeing them start to listen to
their own base. Democrats actually listening to their own base
for the first time in a very very long time.

(44:28):
And the fact that it's happening, by the way, on
an issue like Israel and Palatide that has been so
cast out of the Democratic Party for so long, I mean,
you think that they don't want to listen to their
left length on a lot of things, they really don't
want to listen. They don't want to give the left
a time of day when it comes to support for Palestine.
So the fact that because of the outrage of the base,

(44:50):
and because the poor performances of Democratic Party politicians, they're
now being forced to course correct, they're being forced to
listen to the base, could not be more satisfied. But
it's important to stay vigilant and learn who the real
authentic people are on this and then not the people
just trying to bullshit you. As we head towards twenty
twenty eight, one of the world's biggest comedians and influencers,

(45:15):
THEO Vaughn is the massive podcast incredibly funny guy. But
he had on a doctor, an American doctor who had
just come back from serving in Gaza, to talk about
his experience and really provide an insight to what is
actually going on incredible catasrophy that's going on in Gaza
at the moment to a much wider swath of people

(45:37):
than would normally have heard about it. Let's take a
look at this first clip. Here a really incredible clip
from these doctors. They always have the most incredible stories,
really horrific stories whenever they come back.

Speaker 5 (45:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Do you think that people there feel like no one cares?

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Yeah? Absolutely.

Speaker 15 (45:53):
And to the point I asked many people before I left,
I was like, what do you want me to do?
You know, and everyone basically says like, don't stop talking,
Like just speak about us as much as you can.
And then the other thing, which I found really humbling
was tell people that we are humans. Mmm, like that's

(46:14):
the little demand that they expect of the world.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Yeah. So I found that to be a really powerful
moment there because it really humanizes and humanized to a
bunch of people that would have just normally not talked
about this's not thought about this, but would have just
maybe seen a little bit and believe what they saw
on the mainstream news just because you know it's presented authoritatively.
It's a complex issue. You don't want to really delve

(46:41):
too much into it. But here's a guy you know,
who normally has other comedians on, normally has a fun time,
is taking a moment, taking his personal platform, risking a
lot of backlaps by the way. You know, we all
know how it can be to criticize Israel if you
have a big career or anything like that, risking a lot.
Really to have this guy on who has risked so

(47:02):
much more, uh, doctor Rothmann to go in Gaza and
serve these people and just spread this message back. Because
of course the doctor is doing a huge service by
doing that and spreading that message back, but also the
Alan in spreading that message to his big audience here
is doing a huge service. And I really wonder and

(47:24):
I bet it's not an insignificant amount who really had
through this interview their perspective of the Palaestinian struggle with
the Palatine situation changed, and they get a real close
and personal insight from a doctor with American accent, you know,
just one of them, someone who they could much more
easily relate to than someone on the other side of
the world, and just get a sense of really the

(47:45):
tragedy and the travesty that is going on here. And
he also provided i would say, some pretty newsworthy descriptions
and some pretty insightful descriptions of what's been going on
because he was a doctor there in the one of
the hospitals at Rafa during the Guys Humaniteering Foundation AID massacres,

(48:05):
and he described what doubt was like as well.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
What's that first moment that you notice, like, oh my god,
this is a lot.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (48:13):
So the first day we got there was actually pretty
chill the Friday, but then the Saturday they had the
MCI it's called the mass Casualty incident, and they basically
pull a fire alarm on like what the hell is that? Like, Oh,
every doctor come down to the er to try to help,
and so I was like, okay, so went downstairs, got
in there. There's just like brain matter coming out of people.
There's guts coming out of people's abdomens. There's people's legs

(48:36):
blown off, and someone's carrying it in next to the
you know, one of the family members bringing it in
for the doctors, and you know they think you can
just reattach it and it's just like absolute chaos. There's
family members, security in the hospitals trying to push out
the family members so the doctors and nurses can take
care of the patients. It's it's absolute chaos. And then
US American physicians are just like looking at it here,
They're like, what is going on here? And you know

(48:59):
that was that was That's when reality hit and I
was like, okay, this must be like a one off.
And it just kept happening every day and sometimes multiple
times a day. Essentially, basically, we can we we found
the pattern related to when the GAF sites were opening up.

Speaker 5 (49:16):
Sorry.

Speaker 15 (49:16):
Gaza Humanitarian Foundation is this American and Israeli initiative to
bring an aid to Gaza which basically takes over has
taken over all of the UN AID agencies which the UN,
the UN has been doing this for seventy five whatever
since World War Two, right, and and I think in March,
officially Gaza Humanitarian Foundation is the only one allowed to

(49:38):
bring aid into to Gaza.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Yeah, and that is a It's such an important thing
because you're talking to people who don't know about what
we've been covering on the show for so long, about
these routine massacres going on, and the fact that he's
describing these scenes that seem like they're out of an
apocalyptic movie. That make like a top American physician or
you know, I'm sure he's pretty good as if it's
a absolute top top American physician. But you know, you

(50:03):
get what I'm trying to say. You've met someone who's
accomplished in America as a doctor, being like this is
a whole new level. This is because imagine the work
that these Gaza doctors have to do just to say
stained every day and to treat these people. It just
got someone's you know, guts are open and brain matters everywhere,
and you are trying to keep the family of come

(50:23):
from from screaming and losing their minds out what trying
to save this guy's life. You know, it is a
situation where you have to be as a doctor on
your game so much more. And to give that picture,
to give that sense to an American specifically the Theobond audience,
I think it further cements what we've been seeing for
a long time, and it's been driven by these interviews

(50:46):
and by you know, testimonies from people like the doctors,
the American doctors that have come back from Gaza. Is
that this is just driving a real cultural turn against
Israel and a sense of this is what they do.
And also the I think the important thing that he's
telling this audience about this, Theovonne audience about it's like,

(51:08):
not only does this stuff happen, but this stuff happens
when the aid is being given out, because this is
supposedly the good time where the people are getting healthier,
they're getting on a better track. But really it's a
mass casualty event and we're having to run to the
hospital to help people and to say people when they're
supposedly being given aid. You know, it is a it

(51:30):
is a really crazy situation. And for this doctor to
be able to come in and spread this stuff to
American audiences and specifically to Theovann's audience. I think it's
gonna drive a big kind of normy, mainstream shift in
our political scene or just cultural scene against Israel, where
it's just it's Jesus. It's like it's viewed this with
something to treat with repulsion because of things like this,

(51:54):
because of interviews from people who have been there on
the ground on these major media outlets which have been mainstream,
which have been legacy and also non legacy like Theovonne
people that are completely independent and have built a huge
following that way, that is going to really get to people,
And it's already starting to get to people and making

(52:14):
them realize that this is what this state, this is
what this project does on a daily basis, and this
is really what it's been all about. Here's another doctor.
This is on the Majority Report. But they really do
a good job of essentially giving this picture of what's

(52:34):
going on in a very plain way that makes it
kind of impossible to ignore. And this is something that
has been a big factor in American medias the death counts, like, oh,
there's only fifty sixty thousand dead whatever. But you know,
this other doctor coming in from the Majority Report on
this interview says this is completely bs.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
I love your description. The numbers are a wild undercount.
That's perfect.

Speaker 10 (52:56):
I can tell you, for example, about malnutrition. So I
work with in the Ministry of Health System right we
as what are called emergency medical teams, international doctors and
nurses and allied health professionals. We go in in solidarity
with medical teams and so we sort of follow their
lead in terms of how they do things. When I
document what the cause of death is for somebody, everybody

(53:17):
receives a piece of paper that says how they died.
What our directive is is that if there's anything other
than simple malnutrition that's causing this death, don't write it
down as a malnutrition case. You can write it as
secondary tertiary, but don't write that this person died for malnutrition. Similarly,
Palestinians do not count the debt unless they have been
to a hospital. So, for example, there have been many
AID massacres, which by the way, is another kind of

(53:38):
de property. We haven't even touched upon when the AID
massacres have been happening. There are many bodies that people
tell me. Lots of my patients will tell me their
bodies stranded there that we couldn't get to. We don't
count those debts. We don't count them even really as
more than missing, because we don't know for one hundred
percent sure that that person is dead. Like look at
the lists the Palestinians release. They release only the bodies
they can identify with the ID numbers attached to them.

(54:00):
Of course, it's a wild undercount. Think of how many
people are under the rubble, how many people are still
in red zone, how many people are thrown around laying
dead in the sun, including at GHF sites.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
Of course, it's a wild undercount.

Speaker 10 (54:11):
Really credible organizations that have done these counts for other
places like Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of Congo estimate
the number at this point to be five to six
times more easily. That's three hundred thousand people who are
very likely dead. And of course there's another concept in
medicine called access. That's so for example, I've seen numerous
number of people dialysis patients. So I saw dialysis patient

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two we worked on yesterday for a number of hours
who ended up dying. In our account, that person died
of a kidney related cause, but obviously that person who
was malnourished. They couldn't receive dialysis care the way they
were supposed to.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
They were killed by Israeli.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
Yeah, so, I mean, it's just it really does show
you and the testimony that's getting out to these doctors
with the lack of journalism, the fact that the Israel's
murdering policy. Journalists, Western journalists can't go in there, and
even when they do, it's hard to get a really
true and accurate picture for them of even what's going on.
To actually get someone who is a doctor on the scene,

(55:06):
didn't really even have too much of a background in
this all coming in and just to say this is
a hell, like this is really literally hell for the Palestinians.
I think is a very very powerful, powerful thing. And
that's why these testimonies are so important. And as to
what the doctor I was saying and providing that picture,
it is such important under because imagine if every day

(55:27):
we heard three hundred thousand deaths, four hundred thousand deaths,
how different would the media conversation be. How much more
would the pressure be on these like the officials to
actually do something about the situation. But it said, you know, oh,
it's all fifty to sixty thousand and even that number
is considered by some in the media or what's considered
even the specially for a long time. I think, no,
how people are kind of realizing that it's true. But

(55:47):
people would say, oh, the homoster on health ministry, it's
it's not really even they're not even really dead. It's
it's just all a bunch of bs.

Speaker 13 (55:55):
You know.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
It really is a whole uh, just exercise in the
complete dehumanization of the palest Indians like no other group
under fire like that would have. Did you go to
that link just to prove to the fact, to prove
to the world that they are dying. It really is
a horrific, horrific situation here. And I'm looking now at

(56:17):
some of the updates from al Jazier. He's just a
general latest on what's going on in the UN World
Food Program says that food insecurity in Gaza is catastrophic,
with at least forty thousand children under age one suffering
from malnutrition. The Gaza in Health Ministry has recorded four
more hunger related deaths of the past twenty four hours.

(56:37):
So again those are the ones that are explicitly from hunger,
as that doctor was saying, raising the number of starved
to two hundred and thirty nine, including one hundred and
six children, so it's exponentially increasing. Now. At least thirty
two palest Indians, including thirteen aids Acres, have been killed
since dawn in Israel's attacks on Gaza today, including what
we're seeing now is a corporate bombing of Gaza City

(56:57):
and the beginning of a much proger plan of conquest
towards annexing eventually all of Gods and putting into Israel
and eventually beginning Israel sentiments, as the Minister of for
National Security in more Bankovie has said that he wants
to do so really in some here. Good job by
theo Von, great job by all these doctors who are

(57:19):
doing so much to expose the truth where our media
is completely failing us and we need to end this
genocide now. And on that note, we will end the
show for today. Thank you so much for listening. We
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