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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hello everyone, My name is Mount Walsh. Welcome to today's show.
We have a good one for you. As always on
the show, today we are taking a look at some
big breaking news coming from the White House. They just
struck a supposed Venice Waynlan drug boat. Will tell you
what that means and what the true efforts of the
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Trump administigation in the region actually are very very important
to break down there. Also, the new ruling from the
court is another defeat from Trump and a Buble's Court
has said that the National Guard deployments to Los Angeles
are illegal. Let's say look at what that effect may
have on his deployment of the National Guard to other
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cities like Chicago and DC and what the Democratic leaders
need to do to defend against these military occupations. Also, Trump,
in a big new interview said that Israel controlled Congress,
but they don't anymore. Take a look at what that
means for his position on Gaza and the general situation
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unfolding over there. Also, we are taking a look at
Graham Plattner and his big campaign to become the new
Senator from Maine. He is really catching Firey did a
weekend rally with Bernie Sanders, talking about a bunch of
things and really amping up the rhetoric against the Democratic
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Party and the.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Calls for change.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Will break it down and chart where his campaign goes
next as it hits new records in fundraising. Newsflash starts
right now, and once again a reminder, all of our
clips are available on the Spencer Walsh YouTube channel. Go
to Spencer Walsh YouTube channel starting tomorrow morning to access
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all of the segments from today's show. Really alarming stuff.
As Donald Trump is continuing his push for a regime
changed war against Venezuela's President Nicholas Maturo. He just said
in a White House press conference that he in the
American military drone striked a boat that was supposedly a
drug boat, was like a speed boat that was heading
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off the shore of Venezuela. Here he is talking about
it in the White House.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
When you come out and when you leave the room,
you'll see that we just over the last few minutes
literally shout out a boat, a drug carrying boat, a
lot of drugs in that boat. And you'll be seeing
that and you'll be reading about that. It just tappened
moments ago, and our great general.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Head of Yes Son, he goes and talking about you know,
his other agrievances about how they didn't give up have
enough credit for, you know, wiping out the Irani and
Nucletary nuclear program. There here's the video of it actually happening.
You can see it's a pretty small boat, but the
US just wipe it up. I think this is some
sort of a drone strike. I would assume theyre uh,
you know, maybe a suicide drone coming in and just
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dropping that little bomb.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Over the boat.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Really is a pretty remarkable situation as yeah, as you
can tell. First of all, this is a pretty small boat. Like,
let's be honest, just striking this is gonna do literally
nothing to interrupt the flow of cocaine and ventnyl that's
coming into our country on a on a daily basis
from a bunch of stuff. And by the way, you know,
even if you were to launch this kind of a
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drone strike, you know, target assassination campaign, it really wouldn't
work for for two main reasons. A. It's been shown
when this has been tried in the past that all
this does is cause a lot of violence and chaos
in Mexico that causes you know, while these hierarchies, these
cartel hierarchies regenerate, and then they come back even hard
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and faster, and then the drug supply chain is restarted
and you don't have these big drug labs like you
see in the movies. It's literally just some guy a
lot of times in the woods with a bat, like
with a bathtub and a stick, just mixing the chemicals
to make things like ventoyls. So it's not a very
easy thing to do, uh, take out the cartels with
these military targets, you gotta do a lot of other strategies.
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There's no one magic bullet. You know, something that Claudia Scheinmoum,
as President of Mexico, talks about all the time, like
you need to have, you know, regulation on the border.
A lot of these people that are smuggling in this
this supply are US instance, and it's perfectly legal for
them to come across the border. So you really need
the scrutiny of these border crossings as well. There's a
bunch of other things you need to do, but by
all accounts, striking you know, any sort of targets, but
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particularly just striking a random boat off Venezuela's probably a
fraction of the daily supply of drugs that's coming into
America at this time. You know, that doesn't do anything
to stop the flow of narcotics. What that does is
piss off the Venezuelans. It bates the Venezuelans, It gets
them more likely to get into a regime change war,
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which is something that Trump has been pushing for for
a while, but particularly Marco Rubio has been pushing for
for a while, especially as we talked about realsently on
the show. They bring thousands of troops that four five
thousand troops on multiple destroyer ships right now are stationed
in the Caribbean. And somebody who's been really pushing for
this is the Secretary of State, Marco Rubio. He look
at he's been crying back on his account ever since
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it was announced, and the reason for that is he's
been pushed out of Ukraine, He's been pushed out of Gaza.
He doesn't really have a role as Secretary of State
in any of the big legal or diplomatic fights of
the Trump administration. So what he's doing is he's returning
back to basis. He's a former senator from Florida. He
has a long history of being really hard against these
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communists Latin American regimes. And what he's doing is taking
the long held appetite of Trump and the Republicans saying, oh,
we get news. Are our good boys in the military
to bomb those cartels? Say you know who's the biggest
cartel leader by politic? Alade to meet Nicholas Duro, who
I want to overthrow and drag the US into a
war against. So that's what he's doing, and that's what
he's pushing the US State Department to do, and something
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that really Trump is only too happy to play along with.
And you'll wonder, hey, why is this happening? What's the
motivation here really for the US? This is, you know,
not just to talk about this anti communist crusade that
Marco Rubio has long been on, but you'll also have
a whole host of natural resources in that part of
the area. This is the head former head of SOUTHCOM,
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which is the Southern Command of the US Army, is
General Laura Richardson under the Biden administration. So think about
what type of attitude the guy who's currently in charge
of that has in the Trump administration when it comes
to these natural resources. When this is supposed to what
the liberals had when it comes to Venezuela. This is
how they think it's important and really threatens American troops
and the civilians the region as well.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
If I talk to my number two adversary in the region, Russia,
I mean I've got, of course the country's Cuba, Venezuela
and Nicaragua with Russia relationships. But why this region matters
with all of its rich resources and rare earth elements.
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You've got the lithium triangle, which is needed for technology today.
Sixty percent of the world's lithium is in the lithium Triangle. Argentina, Bolivia, Chile.
You just have the largest oil reserves light sweet crew
discovered off of Guyana over a year ago. You have
Venezuela's resources as well with oil, copper, gold. We have
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the Amazon lungs of the world. We have the thirty
one percent of the world's fresh water in this region too.
I mean, it's just off the charts. We have a
lot to do. This region matters. It has a lot
to do with national security, and we need to step
up our game.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
There's a lot to do with national security. We need
to step up our game.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
You know, this is how the US has operated from
time in memorial. We are in control. We have the
ability to dictate the terms of how other people run
their countries to everybody else. We can't exist on a
common playing field where we're trading and we're giving things,
and we're you know, you get some, I get some.
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We can't let countries operate on their own in their
own interests. We have to take control, and that is
to secure the natural resources for ourselves. And you've heard
it there from that lady. This is again supposed to
the liberal administration, the Bia administration. Think about what tack
the Trump administration is having when it comes to not
only this ideological crusade against communism, but really this fight
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that's much deeper fight from natural resources. Talking about lithium,
there's the evy uh and the electric and the kind
of green machines of the future that China has a
stranglehold currently over lithium supplies and where earth minerals. You know,
think about how valuable the US it would be for
the US to really expand its control over these countries. Venezuela, Guyana, Bolivia,
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all those countries that have literally very recently had governments
that are very anti US. You know, Bolivia, unfortunately it's changed,
but you know, these these countries are natural resources that
are seriously the apple of the iv Us. It's it's
been that way forever. There's no reason think that it
hasn't changed. And we can really see what is developing
here is not it's not at all a fight against cartels,
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but it's really a fight a broader play for the
natural resources that the United States knows that it needs
coming in this you know, next twenty thirty forty years
of increasing climate chaos, you need more green energy, you
need more.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Just hard natural resources like gold and copper.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
You need you know, also a ton of oil that's
also off the coast of Guyana and also in Venezuela
as well. Like that's also something that's been heavily, heavily
watched by the US Security State on both sides of
the isle. So it's very very important to see exactly
what we're doing and be very very clear eyed about it.
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And this also comes, by the way, as we have
the SCO Summit, the most American nation anti American nations
excuse me, in the world. We're chatting and laughing over
the weekend and here's how it was talked about multiple
different outlets. We had China, Iran, we had Russia, India
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all coming together and essentially saying we can do better
than America here. And will that lead increasing lashing out?
Would that lead to drastic actions by the US to
kind of secure its own backyard? It's certainly possible. Let's
take a look at this.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Press rea starting off with the coverage of the summit
in China, would you have for assembly.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Let's start in China with the a front page of
the English language China Daily. Here it's celebrating Chijing Ping's
of Global Governance initiative. It also quotes the Chinese residents
as saying that quote a cold war mentality is haunting
the world today. The South China Morning Post is also
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covering the story on their front page. And they've got
this picture here of Modi, Putin and Chijing Ping looking
rather friendly, and that type of photo comes back a
lot in the coverage. Meanwhile, in India, though they're looking
at the relationship between the three leaders, in particular how
Moody and Putin shared a ride in the back of
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his limousine. Not all Indian papers are quite so celebratory.
You've got the Hindu here that's got a more critical tone.
It accuses Mody's collaboration with Chijing Ping as a capitulation.
And finally from the three main countries here, the Russia
press agency praises the warm welcome that Vladimir Putin receives,
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as well as the particular attention which was given to
the Russian delegation.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
What about the rest of the president how they react.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
A lot The story is in a lot of the
other papers around the world and on their front pages.
In France here La Figuero again with that same picture
of the three leaders looking quite friendly. For La Figuero,
Chiesi Ping has united an anti American Trump anti American
front in opposition to Trump.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
And you know that's a French paper you saw there
with the Russian and the Indian and the Chinese as well,
like they are really saying, you know, they're not too
happy with what Trump's done with the tariffs, with the
throwing of America's weight around in the faces of these countries.
They are uniting. They're saying, we can go, we can
try our own paths, we can try a different paths.
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We don't have to be subject to this all as America,
which is realizing this and looking to kind of pull
up the drawbridge in its own world, is now really
drastically expanding the way forward for some real military action
in Venezuela, whether it be an ideological fight against communism,
whether it be a just pure fight for natural resources
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and they just a plunder of natural resources of this
region and the destruction of the civil and political rights
as well of the people living within that region. It
is a very very scary time where a lot of
things are very uncertain. As the US loses power, other
countries are uniting at a greater clip. What will the
US do? Will they launch some sort of crazy war
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for any sort of reason in that region, in that
Latin American region. It's certainly a worthy question and certainly
a thing to watch. And whether you're a US civilion
US service member, or a civilian in that region, it's
definitely a cause for concern.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Big defeat.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Another big defeat that is for Donald Trump in the
court system. The National Guard deployment that Trump did first,
which is the Los Angeles all those many months ago.
It feels like eons ago. He was putting National Guard
in Los Angeles. It has already been ruled illegal in
the courts. District Judge Charles Breyer said using the California
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National Guard and the Marines to conduct law enforcement in
the city violated a nineteenth century law. Let's take a
look at this and maybe you zoom in a little
bit more. The evanans established at trial. The evidans at
trial established that defendants systematically used armed soldiers, whose identity
was often obscured by protective armor and military vehicles, to
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set up protective perimeters, traffic blockades, engage in crowd control,
and otherwise demonstrate a military presence in and around Los Angeles,
said US District Judge Charles Bryer in San Francisco in
a fifty two page filing and short, defendants violated the
Posse Comittatis Act. So that is obviously the very well
established American legal president that you can't use the military,
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which is opposed to fight wars on behalf of American
citizens abroad on American citizens at home, like this is
something that has been very very basic, and it's something
that Trump, you know, clearly violated all the way back
at the time months and months ago when he put
the National Guard in La, California. Hours after the ruling
foul the request for a preliminary injunction asking to remove
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the remaining three hundred National Guard members stationed still in
La which is really kind of quite ridiculous. The motion
in response to an August fifth federal extension of the guardsmen,
who were ordered by Pete hegsadt of course, to stay
longer to further entrench that control. The timing of Trump's
extension of the National Guard soldiers isn't coincidentral He's holding
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on the soldiers through election day. The reality is this,
they want to continue their intimidation tactics to scare Californians
into submission, said Governor Gavin Newsom. It does generally strike
up below, and this is really what I'm looking for,
is how this is going to play into other cities.
He's going on to d C. Obviously, that was the
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most recent city where Trump has sent the National Guard in.
Next it seems quite clear that it's going to be
at this point be Chicago. Lawyer's representing California argued last
month that Trump ex cedars authority and then it talks
about you know, the back and forth here of the
court statute. But I do think, at least at this time,
I think it seems pretty clear that the National Guard
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is going to have to you know, they're gonna have
to do this city by city by city, sue these
or sue these people out of town. It really seems
to be the only way to do it when it
comes to these really just undemocratic and completely authoritarian National
Guard deployments in these cities. And yeah, they're really just
going to go about it the long way. And I
think what really is clear, and the Democrats seem to
get this even more than the media people, as we'll
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play for you in a second, is that this stuff
is unpopular and should be fought by Democrats tooth and nail,
and the American people, especially the people living in these cities,
they want to see this spot.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Let's take a look.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
This is but this, by the way, this is supposedly
left wing democratic news. This is what they're telling the
Illinois Governor J. P. Pittsker to do when Donald Trump
tries to send the National Guard to Los Angeles.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
I actually think that JB. Prinsker should do something radical.
I think you should pick up the phone, call the
president and say, you know, and I know, you don't
have the constitutional authority to deploy the National Guard here
and to police my my. You can do that in DC,
you can't do that in Chicago. But let's partner up.
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These are the most dangerous parts of my state.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
We would love to figure out.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
How to have a partnership that's constitutional, that respects the
sort of balance of federalism between the federal government and
the state government, and let's work together to save lives.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I think this is just such a stupid idea. It's like, Okay,
if Trump was overwhelmingly popular and he was running away
with it and everything that he did was loved in
the National Guard deployment to LA and DC also wasn't
incredibly unpopular, not just with the people in the city,
but with the entire country, then I would say, Okay,
maybe you have a point about you know, using what
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little power.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
You have to team up. It's like these people JB.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Pritzker, Brandon Johnson, even though he's not that popular, he
has power in LA or in Chicago, because people want
those two, the mayor of Chicago and the governor of Illinois,
to actually stand up to Trump and say defend themselves.
It's not really about crime to a certain extent because
of one big thing. Crime is not soaring, It is
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not out of control in these cities. It's all about
the direction of travel. Is anyone saying that crime is
good in DC, in Chicago or LA, or anyone's saying
it's completely under control as much as everyone likes to be. No,
no one is saying that. But what people are saying
is the direction of travel in these cities is universally
is good. In some cases even the lower the bottom
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line numbers are lower than in a lot of red states.
And what that tells you is these people who are
currently in charge now, for the most part, are doing
a good job with the efforts to live crime like
all these crime categories, violent crime, property crime, whatever they
are down across the board. The people in those cities,
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the people that were elected by those voters, they got
a handle on things. Whether you like it or not,
they got to handle on things. And you know, no
one's saying it's perfect. But it's about these cities and
their ability to rule themselves and not just be superimposed
on by the Trump administration. It's about respect for what,
you know, Republicans and bringing on about for years and years,
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which is the ability of local voters to govern themselves
with local officials in a democracy like this, that's the
democratic principle. If it was emergency, you say, okay, maybe
we send the troops in. But this is such a
dumb idea because what Scarborough doesn't get over there on
Morning Jaal and is supposedly left wing MSNBC, is that
it's about honor of people living in blue cities. Like
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everyone living in these blue cities feels the hate radiating.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
From the Trump administration towards them.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
You know, Benny Johns always thinking the clip Benny Johnson,
the conservative pundit saying that these people should be the
entire neighborhoods in DC should be bulldozed.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Absolutely insane stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
And they feel the hate, whether it be New York,
where the Chicago to be, Los Angeles, they feel the
hate coming from the Trump minstration. What they want is
their governors, their mayors to stand up there and say
very confidently, very strongly, yes, we know crime isn't where
it is where we want it to be, but it
is going down. We have a handle on things. And
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how dare the Trump administration try and come in impose
unaccountable federal troops on our city, on our state when
we are doing a good job getting on a handle
on things and getting crime down.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
It's about a sense of honor.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
It's about a sense of defense of your city and
of your state, and it's about a sense of defending
them against people who hate you and hate your way
of life and have no respect for you. Like that
is what people in these cities want to see. And
I just don't think that's what pretty much anyone understands
really in the mainstream media, especially Joe Scarborough. But I
think JB. Pritsker here to his credit, has, on the
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other hand, contrarily been hitting the right notes.
Speaker 7 (21:15):
Third, as lawful citizens exercise their First Amendment rights, Trump
and his team will be looking for any excuse to
put active duty military on our streets, supposedly to protect ice.
We have reason to believe that the Trump administration has
already begun staging the Texas National Guard for deployment in Illinois.
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I want to be very clear on this point, and
I want to speak directly to the press right now.
We know, before anything has happened here, that the Trump
plan is to use any excuse to deploy armed military
personnel to Chicago. If someone flings a sandwich at an
Ice agent, Trump will try and go on TV and
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declare an emergency in Chicago. I'm imploring everyone if and
when that happens, do not take the bait.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
So, actually a pretty strong response there from JB. Pritzker
saying that this is already happening. We're going to stand
against it because we can govern ourselves just like the
CENTL We got it, we have that control. I think
it's something that's a lot of voters in these states
are going to find very very refreshing, especially those on
the Democratic side.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
But here we go.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
This is Donald Trump already weigh in saying we're going
in to Chicago.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Well, we're going in.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I didn't say when we're going in. When you lose, Look,
I have an obligation.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
This isn't a political thing.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
I have an obligation when we lose. When twenty people
are killed over the last two and a half weeks,
and seventy five are shot with bullets. So let me
tell you a little story about a place called DC.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Okay, yes, this is the thing. We're playing Trump clips.
You just can't account for the fact you're just gonna
ramble on for just completely relevant things for minutes and
minutes and seconds. But the bottom line here is, like
the real bottom line here is that people are realizing
that this is unpopular and the courts are definitely too
slow for the situation. I mean, there still are some
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National Guard troops by the time the court is getting
around to ruining them legal. So it is a good
thing for LA and I'm sure your DC. Actually I
don't think DC, because the federalism is going to be
able to fight it, but the Chicago they'll be able
to fight it as well. The people will be able
to get out on the streets. That's really the only
thing that we can do up until you know, election
time or just changing changing the rulers in some way, way,
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shape or form, or until the courts get around to
doing something about it. But the people, I already have
no doubt we'll be out in the streets protesting this,
fighting this. But I think the really reassuring thing is,
you know, of course, the courts will get to it
when they can. It seems like so far they have
been doing the right thing on things like the National
Guard and things like tariffs, So the real true overreaches
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and excesses of the Trump administration. But I also think
it is so important for the leaders in the meantime
to actually defend their people, their way of life, and
their strategy for governance, these democratic leaders to say, you know,
we are not satisfied with the way crime has been
going down, but it's going down. We are handling it,
and we do not need your help because you hate us.
You know, your interest is not in dropping crime. Your
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interest is in punishing blue voters. And to say that
proudly it's also I think it's speaking into something that
so many people know and understand intrinsically in terms of
the blue voter base who's watching this. You know, it'll
be a thing that people will rally around and will
also have the benefit of being true. So it's gonna
be very important for these people, for these voters, and
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for really for these politicians to stand up and fight
this stuff, which is as really is. It's not about crime.
It's not about getting crime lower because crime is already
on the client in these cities. Not saying it's perfect,
but it's on the client in these cities. Is about
just flexing power for the sake of it in the
face of voters to disagree with this President, Donald Trump,
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in a recent interview with The Daily Caller, said that
Israel controls Congress. It was a pretty crazy clip, and
it's just one of those moments I feel like where
Trump is just randomly, completely honest about the situation, but
with no broader meaning and no intent to change any
sort of policy. Let's take a look at what he
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had to say here. This is the interviewer from the
Daily Caller that was interviewing her him. I believe his name,
Reagan Reese is her name? A different war Israel. A
March Pew poll found that fifty three percent of US
adults had an unfavorable view of Israel. That's down or
that is up from forty two percent in twenty twenty two.
Among young Republicans under fifty, fifty percent have an unfavorable
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view of Israel. That's up from thirty five percent in
twenty twenty two, essentially saying that a lot of people
like Israel.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Are you aware of this group? Are you worried about it?
Speaker 1 (26:03):
She said, which is a pretty interesting question, and then
Trump says, yeah, I'm aware of it. So Israel is
amazing because you know I could support from Israel. Yeah,
Like that's literally all it is. It's just the most
important geopolitical decision for Donald Trump is kissing his ass.
Like that's the biggest factor in terms of whether we
put tariffs on people, or whether we make a trade
deal with them, or whether we sell them arms, or
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whether we do anything with them or let them commit
a genocide. Like are they are their leaders kissing Trump's
ass to a required degree? Are they doing it enough?
If the answer is yes, then they get everything they want.
So there's kind of solves right within the first part
of this answer. Look, nobody has done more for Israel
than I have. Definitely true. You know, we wipe that
thing out with Ironnie says, we that plane wiped them
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out like nobody ever saw before. You know, we got
back and say, this is the thing I'm talking about
with Trump clips, which is that no clip is ever
complete from Trump without a twenty second thirty second digression
is completely a waste of time. But here's the interesting part.
But when if you go back twenty years, I mean,
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I will tell you Israel had the strongest lobby in
Congress of anything or body or of any company or
corporation or state that I've ever seen. Israel was the strongest.
Today it doesn't have a strong lobby. It's amazing. There
was a time when you couldn't speak bad if you
wanted to be a politician, you couldn't speak badly. But
today you have, you know, AOC plus three. You have
all these lunatics, and they've really they've changed it. You know,
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you're too young to know this, but if you go
back fifteen years probably that's when it started, right Israel,
you would understand this very much. Israel was the strongest
lobby I've ever seen. They had total control over Congress.
Now they don't, you know, I'm a little surprised to
see that. And people there forgot about October seventh, you know,
octoemn is a truly horrible day because I've seen the pictures. Yeah,
he's he seen the pictures there, sounding really just like
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by them. But it's interesting that he gets to that
place from a completely different conclusion or completely different kind
of starting principles. You know, was just for in his
entire career, just thought Israel was really cool because of
you know, he thought it was still in the nineteen
seventies and Gold in my ear was the prime mister
just a whole bunch of just old man ideas that
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never quite updated in his head. But Trump dis likes
him because net Yahu gives him some compliments a lot
of the time. And that is literally it, you know,
is a kind of a weird dynamic there. As long
as they serve him, and they do it pretty well,
he is more than happy to serve them. And I
feel like it's it's still it is very interesting that
within that he can be incredibly honest because he has
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the kind of doesn't have that tied down. He doesn't
know how the Zionism is supposed to sound coming out
of a trained politician. That doesn't stop from doing it.
But he's still then, you know, he still gets some
things that come through. And you know, obviously he's not
going to change policy because as we have discussed, Israel
is very nice to him, so he is very nice
to them. But still, it is very very interesting, very
(28:54):
instructive to have the President come out and be like, hey,
Israel still used he kind of used to control all
in Congress. Now it will controls a little bit of Congress.
It's crazy how that happens, right, like it, I don't
think that is to a degree, like you know, the
appeal of Trump and the illusion of Trump because it
gives the sense that he is actively serious about making policy.
He's kind of an outsider, or he's gonna do things
(29:14):
that other people won't do because he says these things
that other people won't say. It's as we've seen throughout
this administration, especially with regard to Israel, like he has
done exactly what they want, and he has really been
kind of dragged around by them, like to the point
where he is doing stuff for them that is actively
against his own political interests, like going up and bombing
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Iran that was not something that was popular with the
American people, and at risks us getting into a much
worse situation. And as we talked about a few weeks ago,
jury's still out on if that conflict goes back up
into flames because we didn't fully eliminate their nuclear capabilities,
and then Israel can drag us into it again and
putting tons more American troops at risk and really threatening
the entire Middle East region.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
So, you know it, it is completely foolish to say.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
That Donald Trump is in any way antagonistic Israel, and
in fact he's been led around by them for a
lot of his administration. But it really does show, it
really does make the case that he does have that
weird impulse to be completely honest about the situation. But
it's definitely not something that you know, we can take
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anything really broader from. You know, this comes, by the way,
as we continue to see this destruction of Palestine. What
I have up on the screen is a picture from
Gaza in twenty twenty three. This is Rashid Street here
that was put up by the journalist Montage Aziza, and
you can see how it looked before the war and
now you can see it as a complete just from
(30:43):
the same spot. It's nothing but tense, maybe a few
buildings still standing, and people just doing whatever they can
to stay alive and try and keep their attachment to
their homeland. And it really is a remarkable, remarkable kind
of display here as you can see, you know this
there is a kind of weird current in the efforts
to end this war. Where you have and we'll play
(31:03):
the clip from Qatar in a moment. You have Qatar,
and you have some of the econo of Israeli security establishment,
you got you shim Bette Massad. People saying it may
not be the most sensible thing for us to get
bogged down in this war. You know, there's a headline
in Haretz calling it Israel's Vietnam because it could get
so bogged down. And once it gets stationed in Gaza
City and really tries to occupy it like the way
(31:25):
that it is planning, then you have you know, the
the Ahmmas people starting popping out of the ground and
really start creating real audi have casualties. They don't like
it for that reason. They're some of the security establishment,
the higher ups and the army and the intelligence services.
But the right wing government thinks it's so important and
they've just gotten to this point they've been working. It's
(31:45):
almost like a climax type situation where this is what
we've been building up to. We have this opportunity. We're
not gonna have this opportunity again. We need to seize
it before the international community kind of wise us up
to what's going on. It's really the sense that is
going on in Israel among the right wing. So they're saying, okay, great,
let's keep doing this let's keep pushing. And it completely
goes against a lot of the kind of advice. And
(32:07):
that's how you see when it comes to the negotiations
for the ceasefire deal, you don't see a lot of cohesion.
You say, you know some people saying like I think
it was you know, David Barney of the Idea or
Ron Dermer, who is you know, kind of in charge
of negotiating this houstage, youll saying oh, we're We're still
serious about it, We're still serious about it. But when
you have the political establishment and you have the COUD party,
(32:28):
when you're benajamin at Nyaku coming in over the top
and saying we're still committed to this war. We've come
this far, we're gonna go all the way and we're
going to expel these palaest Indians, you know, that tends
to crumble any deal that the national security establishment may
want to set up quite quickly. And you could see
this here with the Katari Foreign Ministry spokesperson essentially giving
an update on the cease fire negotiations.
Speaker 8 (32:49):
Well, kind about the short answer to your question is no,
we don't have any indications at the moment, and I
think the actions on the ground speak louder than the
lack of works on applying to the proposal at hand.
We have seen an intensification of the military operations, the
occupation of Frazza, the banning of AID even in the
(33:09):
limited format that it was going into the city of
ra So the actions on the ground do not are
not indicative of any positive response or any response for
that matter, for the proposal. However, we stick to our
position on this that there needs to be a response.
There needs to be an engagement, and the engagement needs
to be with the process that is on the ground,
not changing the goalpost whenever it doesn't fit the narrative
(33:31):
on these side.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yeah, so that is thetari four minister kind of making
it clear that the people in charge in Israel are
not at all interested in any sort of a ceased
fire deal. And to bring in full circle here, there's
an interesting article here in the Aljazira website that said,
what if the US stop supporting Israel tomorrow? Half of
US voters believe the Israel's committee genocide in six and
(33:53):
ten pose further military aid, polls suggest So you know,
if we see here, if we're actually looking at Trump
trying to be you know, this kind of quote unquote
man of the people, which I don't think anyone actually
says he is. He's just completely committed to which country
support him and go and supporting them, and that's really
led him to get, as we've talked about with the
whole Iran situation, really dragged into situations that would be
(34:15):
damaging just purely for America, on just purely American interests.
You know, it still is something that if he were
too limit at eight, if he were to actually stand
up to Israel, it's something that would have been popular.
It wouldn't be popular, by the way, if Biden had
done it as well. US support has been vital to
Israel's war machine, providing weapons that helped Israel kill more
than sixty two thousand people in Gaza. What would happen internationally?
(34:39):
We get the sense, I get the sense that many
of the Western states that originally supported Israel are now
feeling particularly helpless and now are just really are now
really just willing Israel's downfall upon it. For many, even Germany,
the post war bond that has tied them to Israel
has become so afraid it probably won't hold without the US.
My guess is if the US ended support for Israel tomorrow,
(35:00):
all moving as Israel immediately, though no one would really
want to be the first. I don't know what shape
that would take, whether it would be sanctions or even
the enactment of the UN Chapter seven Charger, which authorizes
the immediate intervention, but it would be quick, says or Goldberg.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
And this, by the.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Way, comes as according to you know, yet another legal
group confirming that Israel is committing genocide. What would happened regionally?
This is from another expert, ha Hellyer. He says, I
think if you suddenly removed the US from the question,
you'd be removing one of the single largest impediments to
some kind of settlement that there's been. Israel's imperative for
(35:38):
generally integrating itself with the region will always be a
second or third level priority because American support underwrites its
ability to act with impunity. As we've seen with Palestins, Lebanese, Syrians,
and so on. The idea that Israel is one step
away from being attacked just isn't the case, and many
would argue hasn't been the case for decades. The Syrian
Army isn't currently holding off from counter attacking Israel because
(35:58):
of the US. They're holding off from attacking because they're
not interested in more wars and they know they'd face
massive resistance. The same is true for others. So, you know,
a lot of these experts here are really giving some
truth to a lot of the debunking. Is that no
matter what Trump says that Israel controlling Congress or used
to control Congress, whatever, there is a way forward here
for real peace, for real stability, not just in them
(36:21):
the least, but throughout the entire world, and taking the
weight of defending this really lunatic state off of the
backs of so many in the West and allowing them
to move forward unhindered. But you know, we shouldn't expect
that I'm Trump to be doing anything anytime soon. So
the US Senate candidate from Maine, Graham Platner, is absolutely
(36:42):
catching fire and really is doing it in a way
that no one else has done before, which is actually
taking on the powerful, taking on the people who are
making lives worse on a daily basis. This is him
talking about how really the Democratic Party has lost its
way and we can't actually step up and change this
is pretty cool stuff.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Take a look.
Speaker 9 (37:03):
We need to bring the Democratic Party back to the
party it was supposed to be. It is supposed to
be a party of working people. It is supposed to
be a party of unions. It is supposed to be
a party.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Of community organizations.
Speaker 9 (37:19):
It is supposed to be a party that fights for
the downtrodden and the exploit It is not supposed to
be a party that supports the corporate interests that.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Have always supported the Republican bud.
Speaker 9 (37:32):
The Democratic Party of today needs to change, but we
need to change. Nobody is coming down from on high
to say this. We have to do this work ourselves.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Yes, I mean that, How real is that? How real
is that? Right there from Grand Platta, He's speaking to
a situation I think that so many people feel.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
It's just like you.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
You don't don't have to be the most person into politics.
And if you're not as died in you probably know
even better the situation that the Democratic Party has done,
how they managed themselves in recent years, and you probably
see it with even clearer eyes, whether it be you know,
Joe Biden's disastrous pushing through when he was completely you know,
(38:18):
mentally incompetent, just not able to run for another term,
and they push them through anyway. They put Kamala Harris
in and they you know, they acted like maybe it'll
be an exciting campaign for a little bit. Then you know,
they got to the corporate donors in there. They constantly
narrow things down. A lot of the you know, the
campaign that or the presidency that Joe Biden put forward
was a lot more promise than delivery when it came
(38:40):
out for a lot of working lass people and the
quality of life went down. It's just like, we know
that this is not all that we should be getting
from the Democratic Party. And to have somebody actually come
out there and say that is who is running for
the Democratic Party nomination, saying we have failed in the past.
You know, we as Democrats have failed in the past,
but we need to make a better and we can
make it better and it is it is possible, I
(39:02):
think is the one thing that we really need to
see after the failures of twenty twenty four from war Democrats.
But we really only have seen from grand platter, which
is we have done bad in the past for this,
this and that reason. We understand that and here is
how we're going to make a difference like that. Is
that that kind of acknowledgement and that kind of confidence.
It's not just like, oh, we're sorry, we'll just become
(39:23):
more Republican. You know, that's not what I mean. What
I mean is you're actually saying, wait a minute, what
is the what is the problem here? Why aren't we
fighting for the things that Democrats have always fought for
in the past, And why why aren't we being confident
about it? Why don't we be strong about it? And
we know what the tradition of the Democratic Party is,
(39:46):
why not embrace it and lean into it like the
Republicans lean into things that are much worse and much
crazy for the much more crazy for the American people
every single day. And this is under clip here that
I really like, just talking just generally about the role
that working class people can have in society. I think
it's a really cool clip.
Speaker 9 (40:05):
In many ways, we live in a society in which
we've been told a story that.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Power is not for us, power is not.
Speaker 9 (40:14):
For the people. There is a different class, a different
type of person whose job it is to wield power,
to be a CEO, to be a politician. This is
not true, this is false. Yes, power exists for those
who are willing to organize and to take it. How
(40:36):
lore that what I am asking you to do is
to show up, to come out, to go to events,
to knock on doors, to do the hard work, to
do what is uncomfortable, and that is to connect with
your neighbors. We are in a moment where a clarity
of purpose and an ability to appeal to maners across
(40:59):
the spectrum, from Republicans to Democrats, from progressives to conservatives.
It is paramount right now. We are in a battle
for the survival of our democracy and against fascism.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
So, another really great clip there from that same rally
from Graham Plattner essentially speaking to such a powerful thing,
which is, you know, he's not really talking about any
specific policy, he's not getting into the details there, but
he's saying that he's doing something that's honestly, in a
lot of ways much more important, which is convincing people
that have checked out of politics that it's worth it
(41:36):
for them to get back in. It's like, if you
are I'm personally a mentally ill nerd who follows this
stelf way way too much and needs to get less
free time to follow this stuff as much as I do,
because it's like I would like to be paid to
break this stuff down, but it's like it's not something
that I'm currently able to do yet. But if you
like to support my analysis, of course, subscribe to the podcast,
(41:59):
like the YouTube channel whatever.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
But just it.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
So many people have checked out in politics in recent
yiares people just like they're all the same. I saw
it when I was canvassing across New York City for
Versoran and he actually what he did was through a
different way, through a different target. You know, he convinced
people that was worth it for them to invest back
in politics again, that that they actually have the power
over their own circumstances. And I think that's what grand
(42:23):
Platiner knows he has to do right here, and he
is doing right here. It's just it's speaking directly too
and saying it plainly, not you know, kind of pussy
footing around and not saying this using euphemisms, using you know,
kind of coded or just sugar coated or just coded
generally with d language about the reality of the political situation,
(42:43):
saying hey, we've been screwed for a long time, you know,
The power, though, is there for us to take and
it doesn't have to be the fancy pants people who
went to all the right colleges and have all the
right qualifications. We can actually take the reins and make
control over our own life. But it won't be comfortable,
it won't be easy. You're gonna have to connect with
your neighbor, You're gonna have to go knock some doors,
(43:04):
even if you don't feel like it. But you know,
the moment is not slipped away from us. We still
have the power to control our own circumstances, to elect
people that we see ourselves in, both in background wise
but also politically envision wise, which is also very very important.
You know, we have that ability, We can do that,
(43:25):
and I feel like that is an incredibly incredibly powerful
thing and convincing to people after so many disappointments to
take the leap and say, you know, I forget the
exact line, but it was just something like, you know,
you're told that you're supposed to your the power is
only for a certain class of people. That is not true.
We have but we have to push for it, we
have to fight for it. That is a really strong
message I think coming from you know, I to be
(43:47):
kind of identitarian about this, but coming from someone who
looks like him, I think it could be even more impactful, saying, hey,
if this guy who kind of looks like me has
a similar background in me, if he's get involved, if
he's getting the fight, I think I will too. So
I think that's a really really great message here and
talk about this. This is another really great message. You
can see the redom applause gets This is another rally.
He did it over the weekend with Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 9 (44:08):
Everyone in May knows in their bones that the system
is screwing.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Us, yep, telling it like it is, telling it like
it is, but actually blaming the right people, unlike Trump
who blamed immigrants.
Speaker 9 (44:31):
And we know it because we can see it. We
watched from the sidelines of struggle, as incomprehensible amounts of
wealth and power are consolidated by very few. We are
all looking at that, and we all wonder why cannot
(44:54):
we all share in that success. Our taxpayer dollars can
build schools and hospitals in America, not bombs to destroy them.
In gossip.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
Yes, oh, and you can see he gets innovation for
that because I just think it taps into something powerful
because it's just you gotta I think it's like a
thirty seconds had innovation. This this tweet says in the
from Dropside News here in the Bernie Sanders rally, like,
I think it just speaks to something that is so
obvious to so many people, but no politician says so
when someone actually comes out and says it, it's just
(45:36):
people like, oh, like their their eyes pop out there.
They get so excited because it's like we've known this
for such a long time, but nobody actually says it,
which is we could We have so much wealth, we
have so much power to make things better for everyday people.
We could build these hospitals, we could make it easier
for people to go to college, make it easier for
people to buy a house, every sort of thing, make
(45:57):
it easier for them to pay rent, every sort of
thing that people struggle with on a day to day basis,
like that could be dealt with. We have the power,
we have the resource to deal with it. And actually
a directing people's anchor touls the right focus, which is
our adventurism abroad and how we deal with our resources,
but also saying that obvious thing that we know we
(46:19):
could do better, and we have so much and we
could put it on the right priorities, and just cutting
breaking that kind of fourth wall politics, breaking that taboo
that seems like such common sense but really is just
never said, so it seems like it's crazy when it is.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
That is a.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
Really really powerful one two combination, and just that breaking
and forth saying that kind of stuff is just a
really really cool thing. And it's really why this Grand
Platter campaign is different, and we can see why, you know,
it's it's breaking through. This is headline here from local
News and Maine. Grand Platter raises one million dollars in
nine days, challenging Susan Collins off to a strong start.
(46:59):
More than twenty seven hundred volunteers, So people are signing
up to do what Plattner said there in that second clip,
which just knock those doors, do something uncomfortable. That's a
big part of how Zoraman Donnie one as well. Average
donation thirty three bucks. And this is you know, this
is from August twenty eighth. It's September second at the
time of this recording, so it's like, who the hell
knows what he could have done. Now we could be
at you know, almost all the way to two at
(47:19):
this point. And he said, and he says in this
article here he's he did more money on the fourth
day than he did on the first. So people are
catching up there finding out about this campaign and for
all intents and purposes, just as he cuts through, as
he says what everyone knows, but nobody says, at least
who are running for office, you know, it really is
starting to seem like Graham Plattner is picking up steam
(47:43):
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