914: Trump's Creepy Letter To Epstein Confirmed

Also, ICE gets new power from the Supreme Court, Trump justifies domestic violence in support of his crime statistics and chronicling the fall off of Joe Rogan

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hello everyone, My name is spect Walsh. Welcome to today's show.
We have a good one for you. As always on
the show, today, some really disturbing stuff coming out of
the Supreme Court as they have just given Immigrations and
Customs Enforcement broad new powers to essentially deport anyone at
any time, including based on factors such as ethnicity, skin color,

(00:33):
and language spoken. So really opening the door there for
some pretty blatant racial profiling. Will break down all of
the details from that case. Also, some big new revelations
from the Epstein birthday book the Epstein. The State handed
over some of the key pages to Congress and it
turns out Donald Trump was lying when he said that

(00:56):
he never signed that letter and it doesn't exist, because
it exists and it was revealed for the whole world
to see earlier today. Also, Donald Trump making some pretty
shocking comments about domestic violence, saying the crime that takes
place or a little fight with the wife in the

(01:17):
home should not be a crime and it's no big deal. Also,
Joe Rogan, one of the most influential podcasters out there today,
played a huge part in getting Trump his big victory
in twenty twenty four. It really is pretty clear in
a series of recent clips he is just getting dumber
and dumber by the day. He can't establish fact from

(01:39):
fiction when it comes to a I and his right
wing propaganization from years of consuming right wing media and
generally drifting more towards the right wing, has made it
so that when he discovers he's wrong, he doesn't even
bother correcting himself. Give you the truth about Rogan and

(01:59):
so much more on the show today. Once again, all
of our clips are available on YouTube. They'll be out
for public consumption by I guess five tomorrow, five am tomorrow,
so go check it out spunch Walls YouTube channel. Let's
get into the tayshow really dark news coming from the
Supreme Court where they've essentially given Ice the okay to

(02:20):
do whatever they want, whenever the hell they want to
whoever the hell they want, with no probable cause or
anything like that. Going in the headline from New York
Times is Supreme Court lips restrictions on la immigration stops.
A federal judge had ordered agents not to make indiscriminate
stops relying on factors like a person's ethnicity or that

(02:40):
they speak Spanish, So essentially they just got to go
ahead here from the Supreme Court officials, Supreme Court stamp
of approval to do blatant racial profiling. Let's dig in
here a little bit more. The court's brief order was
unsigned and gave no reason, so they essentially just farted
it out and said, yeah, okay, this is something that

(03:01):
you should be able to do. So to go up
to people it is whichever ICE agent thinks that they
look illegal or you know, hispanic is really obviously what
that actually means. They now have the power to go
up ask for the papers whenever, wherever. And you know,
the big question on this is the order was unsigned,

(03:23):
so you know, some people are saying it may not
apply to Los Angeles, could be or may just apply
to Los Angeles, It may not be a nationwide application,
but there is And even New York Times says this
there is a little doubt that the ruling will have
the practical effect of further emboldening the administration's uncompromising efforts
to support unauthorized immigrants around the country. And you know,

(03:44):
let's be real. If you think that this is going
to encourage ICE people to say, let's just keep a
living in to La, we don't have to be as
aggressive in other places. You got another thing common it
is that is just not going to happen, Like these
people are going to be incredibly aggressive because the reason
why they joined is to do this kind of stuff.
Like these are people who probably didn't get the original

(04:08):
law enforcemate job that they wanted. I mean, let's be honest,
join the ICE where the you know, the bar is
floor low below the floor for getting in because they
want you know, Chrissy Nillam's going on interviews promoting ICE
jobs every two weeks because people aren't hot joining for
the at a high enough rate for the real deportation

(04:28):
force that they need, which is really quite systematic, like
they really want to ramp people up. And if you
look at just integation of the past, look at videos
of how they speak to people in the streets, look
at what they've done so far in terms of deporting immigrants,
legal people, you know, people with relaizenship and sending them
off to Seacott to porting them around. Like this administration

(04:50):
and this ICE Department specifically, has shown absolutely no regard
for anything other than deporting as many brown people as possible,
whether they have citizenship, were not and it just really is,
I think is a racialized thing. And you could go
back even to the first time administration where there was
the jokes that came out and from the League group
chat of all these racist jokes that these ICE agents

(05:13):
were making back when you know there's a kidging, cages
things going on. You know that was that was a
very big scandal at the time. And you know, this
is another crazy situation. This was a clip from a
report on an ICE job fair and this shows you know,
these are the people who are signing up now to
join the thing. Imagine the people who are you know,

(05:34):
the hardened ICE agents who are just salivating at the
mouth to go raid these home depots and these farms,
and these people who are just doing whatever they can
to try and make it in America. You know, this
is one guy who is who is signing up now,
Aaron Eli, who is a former bantamweight MMA fighter who
went by the rig name the Cyborg. He settled on
an IT career after his hip came out. He limped

(05:56):
into the hiring exbo last week hoping ICE could use
his computer expertise. He said he felt he was no
longer able to advance in his private sector job because
the market was too crowded with candidates from India willing
to do the work for less. I keep seeing these
memes where Indians are bragging about taking our jobs, Eli
thirty six said, specifically our text jobs. So I said,

(06:17):
oh yeah, well, I'm going to work with these guys
that are going to arreste you, slam your face on
the pavement and send you home. So this guy's essentially
joining fantasizing about slamming Indians faces under the floor. You
know how many other people are like that. People just
have these violent fantasies that are a lot of cases

(06:38):
fed to them through social media that are joining ice
to essentially enact them with little to no oversight at
all on anything that they're doing. And even less now
the subrene Court has given the authority to go up
to whoever they want, whenever they want. And it really
is kind of a sad thing because you see these people,
whether it be the higher end, higher skill of the

(07:00):
job market or the lower skill side. You know, these
people are you know, their jobs, they feel like understandably
so that their jobs are being taken, they're being priced out,
and it's not the fault of the poor, desperate, H
one B immigrant who is trying to get out of
a shitty country and do whatever they can to make
it in America. But it's also not the fault of
people who are in America who have gotten a good

(07:22):
education and who have done everything they can, done everything
that was expected them to get a good job, and
then feel that they're interested in for the rest of
their lives. You know, it is a situation that, yes,
needs to be reformed, But the people who are feeding
this same hatred are the ones causing their problem, The
people wh are owning the tech companies, the people in

(07:43):
these high power situations, who are flooding this content to
very disillusion young or not even that young but economically
downwardly mobile Americans about how these it's really these Indians
who are coming in and taking your tech jobs, these
Mexicans who are coming in and taking your blue collar jobs.
It's not the fact that I'm willing to exploit these
people because I can get even cheaper deal on exploiting

(08:05):
them than exploiting you. So I'm going to fight for
them to come in and rip them off while I'm
also ripping you off. At the same time, and that
applies to so many different areas and industries in labor.
So you have such a dishonest poll that is really
working on this guy who is you know, fed up
his real hatred of Indians, you know, probably looking at

(08:28):
these memes on Twitter or x getting fed by Elon Musk.
Now he's going to go crack some heads open. But
what he really should be doing is directing his angle.
There's various in people who created the ASIA and B
infrastructure in the first place and are the reason why
both sides, both immigrant and native workers are getting completely
ripped off by the people in the top. And it really,

(08:51):
it really is disturbing for the immigrants who are going
to be the victims of this in the months. But honestly,
it's a little bit sad that we see so many
American workers being pulled down this path towards just right
wing racialized fascist ideology where we're gonna protect the homeland,
We've gotta slam these other foreign immigrants out of here.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
It.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Meanwhile, they turn around and they find that their lives
are not better at all. Their economy is smaller, the
opportunities are fewer and further between, you know, maybe maybe
some pay a little bit better. But then you know,
once all the immigrant labor is out the people this
op will just go back to exploiting the native borns

(09:34):
just even more now to make up for the profit
margin they lost on exploiting immigrants. So it really is
a dark, dark situation. See how many people are manipulated
by this, but some are standing up. Here is an
ACLU press conference from earlier today taking a look at
some some pretty strong words from some LA activists who
have been leading the fight against this.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
We should not have to live in a country where
the government can seize anyone who looks Latino, speaks Spanish,
and appears to work a low wage job, wrote Justice out.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
The major.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
The government, and now the Concurrence has all but declared
that all Latinos, US citizens or not who work low
wage jobs are fair game to be seized at any time,
taken away from their work, and held until they provide
proof of their legal status to the agent's satisfaction.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
I mean that it is the world we're living in.
It so it's a very very disturbing situation. And here's
the mayor Karen Bass trying to spread the word about
this as well, I want.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
The entire nation to hear me when I say this
isn't just an attack on the people of Los Angeles,
this is an attack on every person in this city
and in every city in our country. I want the
entire nation to hear me.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah. So, I mean it really is, because this is
going it's not going to just stop in LA. It's
going to continue. It's going to get worse, and these
powers could be expanded. You know, you're talking about homegrown criminals.
So Donald Tran famously telling the Ol Salvador and President
that the homegrowns aren't next. If you have this power
for these ice agents who can get this, join it
and arrest anyone they want, smash anyone's head in that

(11:23):
they want. It really is going to create an incredibly,
incredibly dark situation. And you know, we'll continue to follow this.
We're hoping that we get to see this turned around
in some way in court. But I think the bottom
line is here. The Supreme Court, first of all, is

(11:43):
much more on board with the drop administration agenda, and
this could go down the line for things like tariffs
and other kind of trade. Economic policies are going to
be decided in the Supreme Court in the coming weeks
and months. But another key thing is, you know, this
really is going to bold nights. It's going to continue
to make immigration a central part of the Trump administration.

(12:06):
It's not gonna be very popular. I think It's gonna
be hated by the end of Trump's term. But never before,
regardless of where this ruling goes in the future, never
before have we seen such an organized group of people
so intent on doing violence. To know, not just people
who are doing crimes, but people who are non white appearing,

(12:27):
people who are Hispanic or brown appearing, or maybe Muslim
or even Now that is what this really is about,
because you can see this with the specific text of
the ruling at the top. You know, person's ethnicity, how
they appear ethnically, or if they speak Spanish, those are
gonna be the things. They're gonna be used by these
people now to brutalize immigrants and just do whatever they

(12:49):
want with no with just impunity. And you know there
is yeah, there's the headline here with the New York Times.
Ethnicity and language like those are gonna be the factors
that will be the ice, the ability to go in
and rough people up like this is the world that
we are now living in, and it really is something
we're gonna have to watch unfold with increasing horror. Well,

(13:13):
here's something you certainly don't see every day. Donald Trump
caught in a lie. What a shocker, you know, obviously
you see it all the time, and he was caught
in yet another one today. With regard to Wall Street
Journals reporting from mid July regarding what else Donald Trump
and his very close friendship with the convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein,

(13:36):
specifically this birthday book. The story from the Wall Street
Journal went that Maxwell called up all Jeffrey Epstein's friends,
including Trump, to send in all these birthday messages that
she would then put in a big binder and give
to Epstein to a lot of powerful people in there
as well. That we'll go through that also had rules
in this, but Trump he was explicit. You know. The

(13:59):
story talk about a weird image of a naked woman
with the signature to the letter being the pubic hair
of the woman and within the woman's body. Was this
weird conversation that Trump was having with Epstein about how
cool and smart they are, I guess especially there's no
other way to say it, Trump did not. He said,

(14:20):
I never write a poem. I never draw a picture
like who do you think I am? Maybe I'll hang
out with Epstein, but you're never gonna catch me writing
a drawing a damn picture. That's not who I am,
but Epstein. The state gave the birthday book to Congress.
So now we have this picture, which essentially confirms everything
that the Wall Street Journal said about the story and

(14:41):
also catches stromp and a pretty blatant lie. And you see,
there must be more to life than having everything. Donald, Yes,
there is, but I won't tell you what it is
normal lies, since I also know what it is, Jeffrey
says Donald. We also have certain things in common, Jeffrey, Jeffrey, Yes,
we do, come to think of it, Donald enigmas never age.
Have you noticed that, Jeffrey. As a matter of fact,
it was clear to me the last time I saw you, Donald,

(15:03):
A pal is a wonderful thing. Happy birthday, and may
every day be another wonderful secret. And there you see
the kind of pubic hair signature that was kind of
meant to mimic that. But if you look here at
the bottom of this post, it also kind of helpfully
includes another very similar signature that was from two thousand

(15:24):
that Trump signed Rudy Giuliani's book with you could see
the Donald comes off really quite similar to the one
that he signed to Jeffrey Epstein. But that hasn't stopped
the White House and specifically Caroline Levitt from coming out
and saying, as I have said all along, this is
again official White House Press secretary here, thinking that we

(15:45):
can't even see with our own eyes, and we'd never
seen Trump sign a document before, which he's very famously
done on many occasions. I said, as I said all along,
it's very clear President Trump did not draw this picture
and he did not sign it. President Trump's legal team
will continue to aggressively pursue litigation. So yeah, they're still
continuing to sue the Wall Street Journal on this, even

(16:07):
though you know, it's pretty clear that they have this story.
I mean, Lucas letter, you know they have this story
exactly right on the merits of this, and I mean,
there are quite a lot of people involved in this
more broadly that we'll get into in a second, but
I do think this is going to have some kind
of interesting and pretty important implications for Donald Trump politically,

(16:29):
This is an interview with a Epstein survivor on CNN
by the name of Hailey Robson, who actually comes out
and says, I voted for Trump because I thought he
was gonna blow this stuff open. But little did I
know they were sending birthday letters. Him and Epstein, the
guy who was abusing me, were sending birthday letters to
each other the whole d amtion. So it's sake a look,
and that's all we're looking for.

Speaker 5 (16:49):
So let's talk a little bit more about that. Because
there's this bipartisan effort in the House to force of
four vote on the release of more records from the
Justice Department. Two Republican vote are still needed. This is
of course being spearheaded by Thomas Massey Rocanna. What is
your message to Republicans right.

Speaker 6 (17:06):
Now as somebody who voted for this administration and for
somebody who wrote the coattail of the whole campaign being
based on Hey, listen, we are going to we are
going to resolve this by formally releasing all of the
documentation that's been withheld, and we want answers to you know,

(17:28):
my party didn't show up for me. My party was
a very big disappointment for me. God bless Thomas Massey
and Marjorie Taylor Green that did come out and support
of this and support of all of us and actually
took the time to not only hear us, but to
back us up. And I think that they are equally
disappointed in their own party.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
So yeah, I mean, you gotta you could make I
think a pretty fair point there that for I guess
for or someone like who's survived this kind of stuff,
of course, they're gonna do whatever they can and take
whatever they can get from any politician to get any
sort of answers on this. But I think for the
broader amount of people, you could have done a little

(18:10):
bit more research and realize the immense ties that Trump
had with Jeffrey Epstein on this. But I do think
though some of the stuff that robeson this woman who
was just talking there was saying, does ring true. For
a lot of people, it was like people got on
that bandmag and people thought that he was actually going
to do something about this, actually stand up to this,

(18:33):
you know, as nonsensical as it did seem, given all
the ties and all the pictures of them together like
they knew each other, like they knew each other. Not
to say that he was the only one who was
incriminated in any shape or form, but they knew each
other and it was really quite clear. So, you know,
it's not the most hard thing to predict this would
unfold this way. But in terms of and again I'm

(18:54):
not faulting the survivor for going after answers and taking
whatever she can get in terms of trying to fight
for justice. But now I think this really has done
you know, not with the hardcore magnets who are in
for the immigration or in him for the tariffs, or
whatever the hell other reasons they support Trump and they
really have this kind of parasocial relationship with them. But
for the people who are younger, male online people like

(19:16):
my age, they really thought that he was going to
be the true tail on this. He was going to
smash the deep state. He was going to show people
what's up. He was going to expose the reality of
the situation. He was actually going to name some names
on this stuff and actually be different from the rest.
I also think by the way it spoke to a
broader desire to have someone who would shake things up.
This was a criticalization. It was a key point, you know,

(19:38):
not only going to shake things up, He's going to
make the economy better. He's going to, you know, make
make our lives better through various different means. He's also gonna,
you know, just to prove how much of a true
fighter outside guy he is. Trump's gonna get in there
and he's gonna blow open those Epstein files. And you know,
that was a big part of that outside of appeal,
which manifested in a lot of other different ways throughout

(20:01):
the system. And to see this, I think it's another
it's a ringing reminder throughout some of the most key
and newest parts of Trump's support base that he could
not be contrary to being this cool outside of guy,
he could not be more of an insider, and he
really was, and he had a long time as an

(20:22):
insider where he was really within these circles. He knew
all these people and send money to them, covorted with them,
you know, maybe did a lot of the same things
sexually with them as well. And it really is kind of,
I think, serving as a pretty rude awakening to people
and to really show you how much he was in
this kind of power elite circle with a bunch of

(20:43):
people that were also covorting with Epstein, the same other people.
Here's a little bit of a look unto who else
was contributing to this book, this birthday book. This is
what Bill Clinton had to say to in this Epstein
in two thousand and three birthday book. It's reassuring, isn't
it to have lasted as long across all the years

(21:04):
of learning and knowing, adventures and ineligible word and also
to have your childlike curiosity, the drive to make a difference,
and the solace of friends. So yeah, that's Bill Clinton.
They were talking about Epstein's childlike curiosity. Always sounds good
and above boards. So here's a kind of rolling slide
of images that people who are all in this birthday book.

(21:26):
I mean you got Leon Black, Alan Greenspan, Peeno Mandelsson. There,
you got Alan Dershowitz, you got Verra Wang the fashion designer,
which is really pretty crazy. I mean, they were all categorized.
Picture how many people were part of this. The people
were grouped into categories like business, science, Brooklyn family, friends,
and Clinton and Trump got the friends category, including mort

(21:48):
Zuckerman and Leon Black as well. Leon Black's one was
really pretty weird as well, the submission with Black's name
had a handwritten poem with a rhyme section. The poem
included acronym v FPC with an asterisk that stood said
it stood for Vanity Fair poster Child, a reference to
the magazine profile Epstein's that was in the works that

(22:09):
was actually done by Vicky Ward, where the editor of
Vanny Fair came in and tried to squash successfully squashed
Vicky is reporting about Epstein's ill deeds with young women,
and that was one of the first signs that that
was really investigated. But the poem that Black wrote him says, blonde,
red or brunette spread out geographically with this net of

(22:31):
fish just now the old Man and the sea, So
you know, you can kind of get what they're trying
to get to there with regards to some of this
really kind of creepy stuff. This net of fish spread
out geographically that just so happens to be blonde, read
or brunette. So yeah, totally not creepy at all. So

(22:56):
that's Leon Black. Peter Mandelson, who's the right hand man
for Cure Starmer, the British Prime Minister, and before that
was a top advisor to Tony Blair. He has now said
in this article or this birthday note. He wrote a
birthday note that said that Epstein was his best pal.
But now, of course he regrets soul situation. My bad.

(23:18):
Should have never done it. Maya kolpa, of course now,
but I'm sure you know he was. He didn't regret
as much back at when he called Epstein his best
pal in a birthday wish. In two thousand and three,
a letter from Zuckerman, who was then an owner of
the New York Daily News, said that he had searched
the newspaper for information about Epstein and joked he was
born in Lichtenstein and had a wife and three children.

(23:41):
Zuckerman did not respond to a quest for comment. So
a little weird there. It was all the weird stuff
that they got into. But the letter from Les Wexner,
the retail billionaire and founder of Victoria's Secret, who also,
by the way, bought Epstein, really insane situation. But in
the largest private resid in Manhattan that was where he

(24:01):
had a lot of these parties and a lot of
these creepy rooms and all that, he wrote a message
that contained a line drawing of what appeared to be
a woman's breasts and Alan Dershowitz, who knew Epstein all
the way back enough to send him a letter of
two thousand and three which was sick or three years
before he was arrested, and Dershwest first represented him in

(24:21):
two thousand and six, he sent Epstein a letter. His
contribution to the Birthday book was a mockup of a
Vanity Unfair magazine cover with the mock headlines. It's been
a long time, and I don't recall the content of
what I may have written, Dershowitz said, So there you
have it. It is a pretty clear situation that you know,

(24:43):
Trump has caught in a pretty bold faced lie here
and was part of I think it's important to say
was part of this exact same group. And I mean
you also have here you know. JP Morgan was to
play a little bit. This is from the New York
Times telling about JP Morgan had a big role on
this as well.

Speaker 7 (25:01):
Bank provided financial resources to Jeffrey Epstein for years, ignoring
red flags about his activities all along the way. We
reviewed about thirteen thousand legal documents and other filings to
find out why this relationship went on for so long.
When he came to the banks around nineteen ninety eight.
He was a financial advisor to billionaires. Jess Staley, who

(25:24):
was a top banker at JP Morgan for many years,
basically became a very close friend of Jeffrey Epstein. In total,
there were roughly one hundred and thirty SOMAD accounts tied
to Epstein. His accounts were worth a lot of money
for the bank, but also there were these very large
caster jurals, one as large as one hundred and seventy
five thousand dollars. When you have a client taking out

(25:46):
this kind of money, someone shouldn't say, wait a minute,
WHOA what's going on here? But this isn't just like
a private client with lots of money. This is also
someone who can do things for the bank if need be.
There was this deal put together to buy a hedge
fund called high Bridge, and Epstein sort of plays like
a middleman in this deal, like he got a fifteen
million dollar fee and it sort of cemented his value.

(26:08):
Two thousand and five becomes a pivotal year. Down in Florida,
the parents of a fourteen year old girl file a
police complaint saying Epstein has actually abused their daughter. At
this point in time. Already he but drewin about one
point seven million dollars from the Bank Stanley vouches for Epstein,
mainly by saying, look, it's outrageous to think that he'd

(26:28):
be with teenage girl.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
So yeah, that's the CEO of Morgan Stanley Bank coming
in with a huge, huge endorsement there for Epstein when
he was under a lot of pressure. So it really
the point is it goes very very deep, and we
don't know to what end. You knows, some sort of
blackmail ring or some just general perversion. But the idea
which Trump continues to try and sell people that was

(26:51):
just Epstein to Maxwell. They were just doing this for themselves.
There was no broader, bigger picture. There was, I think
nothing of all these clear ties to all these very
powerful people.

Speaker 8 (27:00):
You know.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
The fact that Epstein or sorry, that Trump is continuing
to try and push that narrative the loan pedophile theory
essentially regards to Epstein should really alert people to not
only how deep and how severe the situation is that
this is coming from the President of the United States,
this obvious BS story, but I think you should also

(27:21):
make people very aware and very alert to Trump's role
in all of Epstein's and and co. I think it's
important to say and Co's misdeeds. So this is a
really kind of shocking clip, I really feel because there's
a new low in some of the remarks that Donald
Trump has made. And also I think shows where his
mindset and the mindset of his government is at in

(27:43):
a lot of situations. And also this this quote reflects
here to his personal life as well. Trump says, having
quote a little fight with a wife should not count
as a crime. And in the context of the fact
that he's complaining his number were too bad when it
comes to Washington, DC crime, Let's take a listen.

Speaker 9 (28:03):
There's no crime. They said, crimes down eighty seven percent.
They said no, no, no, it's more than eighty seven percent.
Virtually nothing and much lesser things, things that take place
in the home they call crime. You know, they'll do
anything else to find something. If a man has a
little fight with the wife, they say this was a crime. See,

(28:24):
so now I can't claim one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah, a little little fight with the wife the police comes.
I think that that can sound like a crime. I
mean it's like Jesus, like you're talking about some things
that have always been acknowledged to be crimes and just
completely throwing them away. Also, some of the most serious
crimes are beating up of women in the home and
actions done, horrific actions done by men to their wives

(28:50):
on a daily basis in this country and throughout the world.
Like this is complete desegrational, complete dismissal of that. And
you know he's making them to at the Museum of
the Bible, that's where he made these comments, which I
think is also telling within the self. But you know,
this kind of old hierarchical control system, it really stretches

(29:11):
back deeply, and you know, it really is kind of
the most trumpy and clip as well as I think
that you can possibly imagine, Like on well level, you
have a complete rejection of any sort of violence against women,
complete trivialization of any sort of violence against women. The
idea that you know, the obviously the man controls the home.
You know what happens in the home, that's that's business

(29:34):
for the man in the house. Like the idea that
the government can come in and call a fight, little fight,
you have a little tussle, you have your the wife,
you call that a crime. Like this is crazy, that's crazy,
it's just unnatural, it doesn't make any sense. And then
you can kind of see the common ease with which
Trump dismisses that situation. And of course, as we'll get
to he's got plenty of his own cases for sexual

(29:55):
violence as well, and you know, domestic violence and things
like that. You know, but it also comes layered within
another kind of grievance about how he didn't get the
credit he deserved for doing such a good job when
it comes to DC Crome, like, you can'tnot get a
better combination of hateful and narcissistic in one clip. I mean,

(30:18):
you probably can, but it's very very rare that you
see that from Trump just as a pure distillation of
who he is, just somebody who is really just does
not think about anything anyone other than himself and also
in a lot of cases actually thinks about how insignificant, impuny,
and worthless. You know a lot of other people that
are he've used as below him really are in this situation.

(30:40):
It's like, no, it's not a big it's just a
little fight with the wife. How crazy is that as
a thing to say for the president of the United States?
I think it just thinks to a broader idea of
when you're talking about giving ice power to stop and
search anyone who has the wrong ethnicity or speaks the
wrong language, or you know, you're dismissing very casually these
instances of domestic crime. You know, a man having a

(31:03):
little fight with the wife, as Trump says, you know,
you're just giving such a big boost to some of
the most i would say, power hungry people who are
intent on hurting others. You're giving such a big societal
boost to them, and you're weakening all of the most
tricitionally marginalized people in the society with this language, and

(31:25):
really just throughout the Trump administration, but more than that,
on an individual note, for Trump, this is really essential
to who he is. And you know, all the cases,
the Storming Daniel situation, there's tons of allegations that stretch up,
even from Trump's own wives about how he treated them
in the home, which is all some pretty discussing stuff.

(31:47):
But if you remember, there was a case with Egen Carroll,
who sued him in a civil case for a rape
that took place many many years ago in a New
York department store. She won that then Trump sued her
and said very awful things about her for and defamed her.
She sued Trump again for defamation, won that again. Trump

(32:10):
appealed that in court, and the result came back today.
Let's sake a listen.

Speaker 10 (32:16):
General Appeals Court refuses to overturn an eighty three point
three million dollar jury verdict against President Donald Trump for
defaming writer E. Gene Carroll. In twenty nineteen, judges reject
Trump's claim of presidential immunity, letting the twenty twenty four
ruling staff.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
So would you look at that? You know, Appeals court
upholds Carroll's eighty three million dollar judgment against Trump. So
it turns out that even according to this appeals court,
the defamation of somebody who he was found liable for
raping in civil court, that really awful crime, was not

(33:00):
an official act of his as president. So you know,
this stupid Supreme Court mini clause was overturned. There. That's
what Trump essentially tried to do to argue. Here is
Egen Carroll, who is incredibly brave, by the way, you know,
to fight this through, and it really calls back so
well to this other quote. It's like he is trying

(33:22):
to and I think a lot of his supporters, you know,
powerful supporters and non powerful supporters alike, are trying to
bring back a world where this case, this verdict, this
judgment would never have happened, This would have been swept
under the rug. Egen Carroll would never even had the
opportunity to bring the case in the first place. And

(33:43):
now she does, and now she actually and you could
tell it is a crime, Donald Trump, because you are
going to have to pay up at least monetarily for
doing it. You could tell it is something that should
be counted because Donald Trump, your personal experience doing things
like this to eat Gene Carroll and the world that

(34:04):
Donald Trump is fighting for again, as I said, is
where this hype of judgment can happen, where this stuff
is just swept on the rug. And it's not even
it's not even a thought that you would, as a woman,
be able to comment and sue this powerful man for
things that you say he did it to you like
it's you'd be laughed out of the room, like what
you're just assuming this upstanding citizen for this thing that

(34:27):
you said would happen. No, No, that you just be
laughed out. And that is the world that Donald Trump,
through his ice stuff, through his just general rhetoric about
your crime in the cities, through his stuff like that
common about domestic violence, and his just general actions about
Egene Carroll, he is trying to bring back a world

(34:47):
where powerful white rich men could do whatever they wanted
to whoever they wanted, and do it without any consequences.
That is the world that he's trying to bring back,
and is very important for us to be all aware
of that so we can fight it more effectively. But
for now, congratulations to Eugene Carroll. So, Joe Rogan is

(35:08):
one of the most influential podcasters out there. He played
a huge role in getting right wing kind of frat bros.
Trump Curious frat Bros. On board with a campaign in
twenty twenty four. Interviewed him and it was a huge,
huge deal. Supported Bernie Sanders in the past as well,
kind of a I've always thought kind of the weather
vein for the average American, if he's getting more right wing,

(35:30):
it means America is getting more right wing. Left wing
means America's getting more left wing. Whatever. But I think
it's becoming increasingly clear, especially in the last two years
or so he's just becoming dumb. He's just an old
guy who doesn't quite understand what he sees on the
internet and is leading him into more and more right
wing interpretations that are just not based in any sort

(35:52):
of effect. Here he is talking about Tim Walls and why,
apparently based on this really damning, damning video, why Tim
Walls was so bad as much president.

Speaker 11 (36:03):
Yeah, when someone is in that whole race and running
for president or vice president, and then the race is
over and they realized that person was a liability, so
they cut them off, and then that person goes wacky
like Tim Walls. You see where he had a fuck
Trump shirt on and he's dancing and going down an elevator.
Have you seen his video?

Speaker 1 (36:23):
I haven't. Please play it.

Speaker 11 (36:24):
I haven't seen it. Please Jamie find that.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
But this is weird. That was a big mistake. Oh,
huge miss They should have picked.

Speaker 11 (36:33):
Josh Shapiro from the governor of Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
I think there were no they should.

Speaker 7 (36:39):
Of course, it's a big swing state and and and
it would have been better.

Speaker 11 (36:44):
Okay, go full screen.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Is that really him?

Speaker 11 (36:48):
It's real? Yes it is No, No, it's real.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
You're just stupid.

Speaker 11 (36:53):
I would love it. It's real. It's gotta be real.
It has to be real.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Wait till you see the videos.

Speaker 11 (37:00):
Dancing that is so real.

Speaker 7 (37:03):
By the way I won, that's probably a real person.
It might not be Tim Waltz.

Speaker 11 (37:07):
The Trump is AI generator. This is Jamie, You're no.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
The video is for those of you who can't see it,
and I assume to do further for the YouTube audience.
Is very grainy footage. But the video is Tim Walls
going down an escalator in a f Trump shirt and
he's wigging around, he's dancing, he's smiling. It's it's such
a clear AI video, And if you spend time on
Instagram running some social media, you've seen how good this
can be and how realistic it looks. But because Joe

(37:38):
Rogan he doesn't really know how a lot of that
stuff works, He's says, oh, it has to be real,
it has to be really, just can't even accept any facts.
But of course what he does also is because it
fits into his preconceived writing narratives that he's gotten from
looking at other dumb stuff online. So of course he's
also just as likely to believe this too. It's just like,
how can you have this guy who's kind of being

(37:59):
considered this the next generation of important commentary, the new
the new face of what political conversation will look like.
And he thinks this is a real video, Like you
can look at it, go watch the video on YouTube.
It is not. It is so if you've spent if
you're under the age of thirty five, there's no shot.
You know, you're not looking. Jamie. I don't know how

(38:21):
old Jamie is, but he he knew it as well.
He's just like, yeah, this is a fake video. I'm sorry.
You know, you don't get to hate on Tim Wallas today,
but you know, it really really shows and the rest
of the clip as well. I think it's also very interesting.

Speaker 11 (38:33):
Or you're a plant by the names compromised, And I'm
worried about Jamie.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
I'm worried about rock.

Speaker 11 (38:38):
Does it say that it's AI?

Speaker 1 (38:40):
I mean, you say it's AI.

Speaker 11 (38:42):
Everybody says that video.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
I played on Top says it's AI generated.

Speaker 11 (38:46):
Riley Moore fell for an AI generated video of Minnesota.

Speaker 8 (38:49):
Go.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
I fell for it too. And you know why I
fell for it?

Speaker 11 (38:52):
Yeah, because I believe that he's capable of doing something
that's but he's not.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
But he's not. It's you're the one who's stupid, and
you're the one who felt with actual not thing, and
it doesn't. And here's the thing, like, oh, maybe I
went a little too far, Like maybe I should be
more careful with what I see on the internet. That's
what a normal person would say. But because he is
just completely right wing brain poison, also just not that
good interpreting things online. You know, you really see right

(39:21):
there in that clip, he takes no time to pause,
no time for real value, no time for reflection whatsoever,
and just says, you know, it has to be real.
Come on, come on, come on, it has to be real.
What it'd be so funny if it was, like you know,
it really is embarrassing. It shows how just if you
want to get bs'd all day long, just tune into

(39:42):
Joe Rogan. That's all I'm gonna say. Here's another clip.
This is pretty crazy as well. And this one was
just him the same exact thing, of him just taking
right wing narratives, not really critically fact checking them at all,
and then boom, he gets hit in the face with
a complete and total lie. But time about Joe Biden
of all people.

Speaker 12 (40:02):
Well, you know, there's people that voted for Biden that
are doing it now that they're like, what did I
do right?

Speaker 1 (40:08):
What did I choose? How was this guy?

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Yeah, you just can't listen to an interview or he's saying.
Some of the stuff he says, it just makes no
sense at all. It's like, you can't listen to those
interviews and feel like you made a good decision.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
I don't know how you did.

Speaker 12 (40:23):
You hear what he said, like yesterday, a couple of
days ago, talking about the Revolutionary War. He's like, one
of the reasons why we lost the Revolutionary War, one
of the problems with the Revolutionary War was they didn't
have enough airports.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
That's a weird quote from Biden's crazy.

Speaker 12 (40:42):
If you were if you had any other job and
you were talking like that, yeah, they would go, hey,
you're done.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
If you talk like that to a doctor at your
medical exam for to fight, they'd be like, okay, like
obviously they're not fighting you. Also, here's you know, eight
weeks of being helped out by a professional.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Like you might not ever do anything.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
No, It's it's one of the wildest things ever.

Speaker 12 (41:07):
Insane, the media gaslighting you to protect It's just people
are so afraid of Trump being in office and Republicans
being in office.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
You know, a few moments later.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Hanging out with the guy, I'm like, man, well, you know,
it's just the media narrative.

Speaker 12 (41:20):
I mean, so many people were fed this lie that
hit the Russia collusion.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Is this the video you're talking about?

Speaker 12 (41:25):
Let me see what this one says. I don't think
it is.

Speaker 8 (41:29):
What. By the way, the same stable genius is said
the biggest problem we had in the Revolutionary War is
we didn't have enough airport.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Whoa, Yeah, that's whoa. So they're listening back to Biden's
saying that clip is that fake? It's not fake?

Speaker 12 (41:49):
But he was referencing Trump saying that.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Here's what Trump says, Oh would you look at that.
He didn't say Jesus, He said a stable genius. And
that's where the transcription. Let me hear what it says
what he say.

Speaker 9 (42:03):
In June of seventeen seventy five, the Continental Congress created
a unified Army out of the Revolutionary forces encamped around
Boston and New York and named after the Great George Washington,
Commander in chief. The Continental Army suffered.

Speaker 8 (42:21):
A bitter winter of Valley Forge, found Glorier across the
waters of the Delaware, and seized victory from Cornwallis of Yorktown.
Our army manned the airport, It ran the ramparts, it
took over the airports.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
It did everything it had to do. Oh okay, yeah, so
he fucked up. Oh so he fucked up. Oh look
at that. No, it really like that is just a
picture perfect situations like that clip, the clip before. It's
just like you are supporting a guy. It's like, no,
and by the way of all the things with Joe Biden,

(42:58):
you're you're posting a clip when there's myriad, myriad clips
out there of him actively looking and talking like a
complete brain dead dementia patient. You know, you pick the
one where he's quoting the other brain dead demasion patient
who is our president right now, in the hopes of
making the original guy look bad and the guy that

(43:20):
you like look good. I mean, it really is. It's
just an ex excellent, excellent, excellent case study and just
complete partisan hackery and just the deadly combination of not
being very smart and not being able to code false
information online and also having these preconceived right wing beliefs
that just make you completely unavailable to new information as

(43:43):
it comes in. And when you get hit with the reality,
you know, you may be like admit it in the moment, like, uh,
I guess, I guess the guy who I thought was
dumb was actually quoting another guy who I kind of
like and think is not dumb and should be president.
Like I think that is just the sure perfect, you
know admission there. But also it's an admission that's so

(44:04):
picture perfect because he's not gonna change his course at all.
He may admit it in the moment, but you know,
a few weeks later he'll be back to long for
some dumb AI thing about Democrats or spreading another kind
of lie, of believing another BS lie about democrats as well.
The basic case here, the reality situation is, you know,
I think it's become increasingly clear, like you kind of

(44:26):
had his heyday in the mid Bided administration. I think
people are starting to realize that Joe Joe Rogan is
just not a credible political commentator, Like he doesn't know
what he's talking about. It's just like talking to your
you know, stoned or drunk friend at the bar, because
he mostly it's stoned or drunk when he's doing his podcast,
like come on, that is the that is the kind
of analysis that you're getting. And eventually you're gonna get

(44:48):
what you think you're getting at the end of the day,
and you're not getting an accurate picture of the world.
You know, it's not like it's oh it's not completely
tied up. It's not a great news presentation. You know
that stuff doesn't matter. It's just you're not going and
getting this information from an honest actor. You're getting a
from someone who doesn't really understand what's going on and
be somebody who is in the tank for the right

(45:11):
and isn't going to acknowledge when he's wrong and actually
change course in the future when he's wrong and follow
us the forth some bleatant misinformation, right wing misinformation at that.
So bottom line is be a little wary of Joe Rogan.
All right, that's all we have for you today. Thank

(45:31):
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