September 16, 2025 • 49 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Hello everyone, My name is Spencer Walsh. Welcome to today's show.
We have a good one for you. As always on
the show, today we are taking a little look at
the Charlie kirkshooting, including what the latest is and by
the way, I recorded this before we got to all
of the government announcements in terms of the charging papers
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that were released around four or five in the afternoon,
But I do think it paints much of the same
picture of who the suspect was, what exactly his motives were,
and how they are being processed by investigators and by
the country at large. And that also go to our
next story. We're taking a look at real efforts by
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the government to essentially launch a campaign of cancel culture
against anyone who didn't really mourn Charlie Kirk sufficiently, and
how they may extend that to just broad mainstream liberal
roots in general. We'll also be taking a look at
how Israel manipulated Donald Trump in the Iran strike a
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few months ago. And a big new endorsement from Zoran
Mom Donnie for Zorn Mam Donnie from New York Governor
Kathy Hochel. It's gonna be a very interesting show. Thank you.
So much for joining us here today. Once again, all
of our stories will be available on YouTube Spencer Walsh
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YouTube channel, so go check them out. And without further ado,
let's start the show. So Charlie Kirk's murder, really cold
blood political assassination has continue to dominate the national conversation,
even as the suspect is in custody. Charges are expected
later today, official government charges. But in that time, we're
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going to go through all of what we know at
this moment about the shooter, what his motives are, and
who he really was, and tried to get just a
better understanding of the situation. But also because we did
not do a show at the end of last week,
I do want to play a really, really great clip
that essentially sums up my thoughts about this situation and
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really who Charlie Kirk was in the first place. They're
from a reverend by the name of Reverend doctor Howard
John Wesley and said, let's just get into him.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Charlie Kirk did not deserve to be assassinated.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
But I'm overwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Seeing the flags of the United States of America at
half staff, calling this nation to honor and venerate a
man who was an unapologetic racist has spent all of
his life sewing seas of division and hate into this land.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I mean, that's hard to deny. I'm sorry, that's hard
to deny.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Just as in hearing people with selective rage who were
mad about Charlie kirk but didn't give a damn about
Melissa Hortman and her when they were shot.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Down in their home, tell me how.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
To have compassion for the death of a man who
had no respect for my own.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Life, very very well said, I.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Am sorry, but there's nowhere in Bible where we are
taught to honor evil, and how you die does not
redeem how you lived.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I can't say really any better than that. So that's
why I want to play the clip to hurt the show.
It's like there's no one smart who is out there
saying right now that Charlie Kirkstad is doing anything to
help you know, the left is political class just general
stability of America in general. But with that being said,
we can more than death. We could say it was
a bad thing that must be avoided at all costs,
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but we do not have to be delusional about how
the guy lived his life and what he was trying
to do, you know, in Hethercox Richardson. Also she's a
great historian. She said, it's almost weird in in some
ways direspectful to the moment a man dies, just remember
him completely different to how he lived his own life.
Is his life was? You know, implication was bad enough
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that you got to change it from the actual reality
of how he lives his life when he dies, to
essentially whitewash the whole situation. So, you know, even still,
you know, we are continuing to try and understand the shooter,
understand his motives and really who he was. I think
this is for our gen Z audience out there, this
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is gonna be a big help.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
This is Tyler's Robinson's high school classmate, essentially framing him
him as a Reddit kid.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
I went to school with this Tyler Robinson kid. I'll
show y'all that's same right there, Tyler Robinson. I'm not
trying to, like Clopchase, make this shit about me, but
I'm not gonna say I knew this kid really well.
I didn't know him very well at all, but I
definitely saw him for like three straight years in high school.
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And the best way I could describe him is just
like a Reddit kid. I don't know, I feel like
if you were in high school around that same time
and even probably now like twenty eighteen and then like,
you know those kinds of kids, But that's exactly what
he was.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah, I think that's definitely a really good way of
putting it, and I want to you know, there's been
a whole bunch of misinterpretations, you know, these these bullet
misinterpretations that were you know, hey, bella Chow bella chow bellachow.
That was about you know, supposedly it was an anti
fascist song, but when it turns out to really be
a reference to Hell Divers Too, which is a video
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game where that's a song that is part of the game.
You know, that's also backed up by the fact was hey,
hey fascist catch that's a reference from the game. You know.
My my friend actually told me this. I'm not a
gamer at all, much to my social hindrance with a
lot of my friends and my age group, but my friend,
who's a big gamer, it was like, yeah, this is
a big part of the game, you know, where it's
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essentially fascist satire type game. And then you know, a
lot of the other things were just clearly trolling references,
and it's a discord situation. It's a gaming situation where
it's like you're with these people, these Reddit kids that
you see, you know, it's it's it's a really an
isolated subgroup. It's an in group where it's like, yes,
they have their friends there, they socialize with each other
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mostly online, but they are much more removed than they
should be from the rest of the society. And that
leads to you know, you hear about NPC's non player
of characters for you know, those of you less less
removed from the game, more removed from the gaming world
out there. It's just essentially viewing people as just bots
that are doesn't really matter what happens to them. You know,
you can you can shoot him and it's not gonna
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be a really big deal. It's just gonna be one
big troll. And that's you get a sense that's really
a lot of how Tyler saw life and really what
some some of the thinking that allowed him to go
shoot a guy in front of everyone, leave him, leave
his family without a father, all that, you know, just
because it would be some sort of epic troll. You know,
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in the context of this lifestyle and this you know,
discord lifestyle where nothing really matters. Everything's gonna, you know,
burn anyway. So why not just do something crazy? You
whyt It just epic and radical, and that is a
really kind of isolated world that you can get to
when you're spending that much time online. And you know, yeah,
there's been so much do you kind of right, especially
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right wing disformation about this. As the headline is, Charlie
kirk shooter Tyler Robinson lived with transgender partner according to
a source. But then you have Spencer Cox, or the
governor of Utah, coming out and saying the exact opposite.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
He was living and uh and had lived for a
long time with his family in Washington County in the
south most part of ours.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Thank you he was. Yeah, so he's saying there he
lived with his family in Washington County. He did not
live with a transgender partner. And then you know, I
would honestly filmed another version of the segment. And then
I saw this article come out from Ken Clipsy and
who actually got his hands on the leak messages from
Charlie Kirk's assassin, and it really does give a much
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fuller picture of who this shooter is and cutting through
some of the bs from the right trying to paint
this picture of this you know, hard left guy, just
someone who yes was isolated from the world, spent much
too much time in discord, maybe not enough time talking
with actual people. But he was not somebody who, at
least the way his friends saw it, was really committed
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to one political side or the other. And here you
can see this is the discord messages that have been
circulating around where he essentially says someone else says, Charlie
Kirk got shot dead. I just saw the video. Holy shit.
All right, p I guess bro did not deserve to
go out like that sad. And then hey, guys, I
have bad news for you all. This is the count
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that everyone says is associated with Tyler Robinson. It was
me at UVU yesterday. I'm sorry for all of this.
I'm surrendering through a shriff friend in a few moments,
which is pretty much exactly how he was reported to
have surrendered, which was through a friend of his father's
who was a youth pastor who's also a sheriff who's
ties to the US Marshall Service. Thank you all for everything.
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Thanks for all the good times and laughs, which is
kind of a hell of way to do it. The
federal conclusion will inevitably be Clippantstein says that he was
a nihilist, violent extremist, and you know, extremist to one
side that I think is gonna be somebody that's gonna
have a really hard time getting any clear evidence on.
It's been so terrible seeing it from an inside. Seeing
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it from an inside perspective is so frustrating, said a
friend of Robinson's since middle school. The childhood friend, who
asked not to be named for fears of threats, provided
me above with the above, non public photo of Robinson
on a camping trip, a favorite activity of his, to
corroborate their relationship. And here you could see this is
I'm assuming the friend there and this is Robinson on
the camping trip. I think the main thing that's caused
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so much confusion is that he was always genuinely a
political for the most part. The friend told me the
big thing he just never talked politics, which is why
it's so frustrating. The picture that emerges bears little resemblance
to the media version Robinson. I'm told, though quiet was
a well liked person with supportive family. The friend group
he interacted with on discord far from some kind of
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militia camp or Antifa bunker. It's been portrayed as represented
arrange rator from political views, but mostly talked about video games. Yesterday,
ATBI director Cash Hotel said in an interview that Robinson
subscribed to left wing ideology, citing his family's remarks to investigators.
But those close to Robins say there's a lot his
family didn't know about him. The ideas are based on
someone they didn't fully understand. The childhood friend told me.
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Though the family was generally supportive of Robinson, claim corroborated
by his mother's Facebook account prayming with praise for Tyler,
they didn't seem to know about his relationship with the
transgender person named Lance, friend said. When I asked if
his family had been accepting, would have been accepting, the
friend replied, I don't even think Tyler knew the answer
that question, which is why he kept it so low
between themselves. Tyler's bisexuality, the friend said, was coupled with
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his oposness on LGBT issues, but he wasn't a cookie
cutter leftist on every or even most issues, his friends said.
Obviously he was okay with gay and trans people having
a right to exist, but also believes in the Second Amendment,
the friend said, referring to the right to the bare arms.
The friend described Robinson as a fairly typical young man
of his age from Utah, someone who loved the outdoors,
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was a gamer and in two guns. To all of us,
he seemed like a simple guy. Loved playing games like
Steve Thieves, Deep Barcalactic and hell Divers Too, which is
where the engravings from the bullets came from. Loved to fish,
love to camp. Didn't seem like that, did really seem
like that's what he was all about, because he was
posting a montage there of hell Divers Too, into the
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unjust deep dive. The phrase inscribed on one of the
bullet casings from the shooting, Hey Fascists catch, though widely
reported to me and he was a man on the left,
is in fact a reference to the Hell Divers to game.
Three arrows, initially believed by federal agents to be a
reference to Antifa, are also referenced to hell Divers. Private
discord messages shared with me. But and that's you know,
it's how you drop a nuclear bomb in that game.
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Private discord messages shared with me by a friend of
Robinson's confirmed that Robinson wasn't some political martyr. Search from
posts of Robinson's containing keywords like Biden and Trump turned
up one hit each. The Trump post was a passing
reference to the twenty nineteen impeachment acquiring the Biden one
came on the day of the twenty twenty election, where
he essentually was trying to check in on the results
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of the election. I'm just saying this is on the
on the election day eleven three, twenty, Biden is in
the lead electoral votes wise, but there are still some
swing states that haven't finished voting, as well as most
of the West Coast. So does someone who just seemed
to passively follow politics, but really to these discord chats
paint the picture was involved in a bunch of other
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stuff like gaming, fishing, camping, whatever, whatever. Even the goodbye
message he sent in one of our service where discord
chats are hosted was so hard to believe. We all
just thought it was what a weird joke to make.
Then the news came out and we were all calling
each other saying check the news. He said, this is
the friend.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I don't know what makes a person like him decide
he's going to drive two hundred and sixty miles upstate
to shoot someone like Charlie Kirk then come back like
nothing happened. It leaves a lot of room for speculation
and theories, which why I think they're so rampant. And
it just seems he was kind of a quiet guy,
stone cold, poker face. He can never be confident assuming
what he really said. As far as we knew, he
never opened up, said a friend. Despite his verbal redicence,
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Robinson was not a loneer, according to his friends, Unlike
the stereotypical outcast shooter driven by violence, driven violence by
social rejection, he was apparently amiable and well liked. Everyone
who knew him liked him because he was always nice,
a little quiet, and kept to himself mostly, but wasn't
a recluse. You know. Seems exactly as I said, with
these typical Reddit kids. If you're gen Z, I'm sure
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you can think of at least one or two people
like this. They had their friend group. They are always
on discord, they're always you know, talking to each other
always talking about some game, but they didn't really care
about anything else going on, whether it be what the
cool kids are doing, the sports games, the new movies
coming out. They weren't really just generally involved in mainstream society.
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Regardless of the horrific actions that took place, we must
all take this moment to remember that God is a
living and loving God who loves all his discord posts
from another friend, posted the day after the shooting reads,
while Charlie Kirk's politics were not acceptable to some, that
asked me say a prayer for him and his family
during these confusing times. So that's part of this discord chat.
The last matches is religious in nature, which goes to
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show the apolitical nature of the servant. We all have
some different views on politics. We'd all just exist as
friends and play some stuff. And we got cat memes
whether updates home improvement and some Garfield references were in
Robinson's post. You know this is posting of southern Utah
with the weather, some problems with home improvement. The federal government,
the Washington crowd, and the corporate media based of Washington
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and New York see this country in holy partisan terms.
Republican versus democrat, red versus blue, old media versus social media,
you know all this, you know, so on and so forth.
Charlie Kirk's assassination in Utah should remind us of the
actual diversity of the nation and the cost of polarization
that demonizes the other side. And I think that is
so so important as we get a really kind of
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a good picture of this guy was a guy who
you know what possessed him to actually, as the friend said,
drive up two hundred and sixty miles and shoot somebody
like Charlie Kirkham, then just go back like nothing happened.
That's something we don't know yet. We just don't know.
But to frame this as some sort of hard left
or some hard right action rather than just a case
of isolation from society and just a sense of the
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general you know, combination of gun culture and untreatmental illness
in this society leaving someone to do something that is
absolutely awful. You know that being the motive here rather
than being politically motivated is looking more and more likely,
and it is really important that we draw the right
conclusions to go forward on this, to make sure that
we are better prepared for such similar events in the future.
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So there's a really important effort right now that's unfolding
from the federal government, not just to regulate, you know,
if you are mean to Charlie Kirk on his death,
you are gonna get fired, but really using the federal
government now for the first time to try and come
in and essentially be the morning police on people with
regard to Charlie Kirk and using this really more generally
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to expand federal government power over all sorts of dissent.
This is the headline here in the New York Times.
White House plans broad crackdown on liberal groups. Some of
the highest ranking officials in the federal government used Charlie
Kirk's own podcast, which was guest hosted today by Vice
President Jad Fans, to lay out their plans to essentially
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dominate this really upcoming political discussion with regarder Jolie Kirk
and use it to increase their power over American political
society and politics in general more broadly. And just let's
get through some of the quotes on this. So Trump
weighed in he's been essentially downplaying all sorts of right
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wing violence, which has been if you look at any
sort of unbiased research group has been the bulk of
political violence over the last ten fifteen years. We have,
you know, from mass shootings that are inspired by right
wingers to right on left violence. Obviously there has been
some left on right violence, but that is not kind
of pales in comparison. And as we talked about in
the last segment, I don't think you can essentially count
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what this guy did, what Robinson did about Tyler Robinson,
the shooter of Kirk, as some sort of political incident.
You know, it's really just a case of isolation from society,
just too much time on discord and really, as his
friends say, being generally a political But that has not
stopped the trumpministration from real pushing here to demonize their
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political eminy and enemies. He said. We have some pretty
radical groups and they got away with murder, he said,
without naming the additional groups. He added that he was
talking to Attorney General Pam Bondie about bringing charges against
the Racketeer, Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, so that's otherwise
known as the RICO Act against some of the people
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that you've been reading about who have been putting up
millions and millions of dollars for agitation. So here is
Attorney General Pam Bondi essentially backing him up on Katie
Miller's podcast.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
There's free speech and then there's hate speech, and there
is no place, especially now, especially after what happened to
Charlie in our society.
Speaker 7 (18:44):
Do you see more law enforcement going after these groups
who are using hate speech and putting cuffs on people.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
So we show them that some action is better than
no action.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
We will absolutely target you, go after you if you
are targeting anyone with hate speech anything, and that's across
the aisle. There's free speech and then there's hate speech.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
We will target you. We will put at least, to
use Katie Millo's words, we're gonna put cups on you
if you are not appropriately if you're not condoning this stuff,
or if you in some way played a role on it.
Like this goes against first of all, you know there
is and it's a debatable situation, there is a place
for hate speech in the constitution. It's called the First
Amendment of the Constitution, where it does not make any
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sort of speech exception for free speech. And I noticed
because that's what I heard from right wingers consistently from
about twenty twenty to twenty twenty two. When it came
to all the stuff about cancel culture, it's like, you
may people may say things that are disgusting and repellent,
and I don't support them, but it's America and they
have the right to say them. You know, are you
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really going to cancel them from the fire them from
their jobs and going to ruin their lives over it?
Are you going to shut down these organizations? And you know,
that was a situation that was open for you debate,
and I think, you know, if you do have a
situation where you know, you have people who are really
doing awful thing or saying awful things and hold awful values,
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do you really want to have them in places like
teaching kids or being in hospitals or things like that
positions of power? You know, I think that is a
legitimate question. But this is something that is a complete
example of hypocrisy, and it's incredibly convenient as something that
we said. I remember saying back to the time was
it's only free speech until you're the one who's getting offended,
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and the moment it comes back against you, you're like,
let's get this let's punish this person as much as
humanly possible. And the thing is they're not just trying
to punish people who they disagree with. They're going above
and beyond in a big way by promising to use
the federal government to come in and go after liberal groups.
It's like if Joe Biden or whoever, Kamala Harris, whoever
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had in the process of the twenty twenty election, said
anyone who celebrates George Floyd's murder, which, by the way,
Charlie Kirk, I believe he has a quote where he's like,
it may be here in this list something about George Floyd,
but I do know, and you can actually back me
up at this. I'm confident enough to say this on air.
He did say, you know, on fifth year Anniversity of
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George Floyd Deak It's like, congratulations, it's five years for
George Floyd sober. You know. The inverse of what the
Trump administration is doing now is to say, Joe Biden,
Kamala Harris, whoever's running for presidents at the time, say
when we get into office, we're gonna unleash the full
federal power of the United States government on Charlie Kirk
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for these things that he said, because there's hate speech,
and there's no place in the constitution for hate speech.
So we're going to not just criticize him, not just
try and get him fired from his job. We are
gonna use the power of the federal government to go
after and use Rico charges to go after his organization
and oranizations that are connected with it. That is what
we are talking about, the federal government using their power
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to do on liberal organizations, not just because even they
probably came out and condemned it, but because they called,
you know, move On or whatever or whatever, you know,
liberal activist organization who can Indivisible called Trump a fascist
or someone in that organization called Trump a fascist, then
it'll be used an excuse to do reco charged against him.
It's a complete violation. It's also a complete stepping up
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in terms of cancel culture beyond where the left ever
was in the height of their cancel culture, which I
would admit went too far back in twenty one twenty two.
This is a new level and you can see it
here even more strongly with Stephen Miller and who's quoted
here by Aaron Rupar saying some pretty crazy things. This
is when he was on, by the way, Charlie Kirk
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Show talking to the Vice President Jadvans. By the way,
Stephen Miller also a wet House Deputy chief of staff
for policy, so he's a pretty big role in this.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
Maybe you know what emotions I'm feeling right now, and
this is something people say, I mean, you kind of
know the answer. There's incredible sadness, but there's incredible anger.
And the thing about anger is that unfocused anger or
blind rage is not a productive emotion, but focused anger,
righteous anger, directed for a just cause is one of
the most important agents of change in human history. And
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we are going to channel all of the anger that
we have over the organized campaign that led to this
assassination to uproot and dismantle these terrorist networks. So let
me explain a bit what that means, so.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Seconds quick, Steven.
Speaker 7 (23:38):
The organized docs and campaigns, the organized riots, the organized
street violence, the organized campaigns of dehumanization, vilification, posting people's addresses,
combining that with messaging that designed to trigger inside violence,
and the actual organized cells that carry out and facilitate
the violence. It is a vast domestic terror movement. And
with the God is My witness. We're gonna use every
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resource we have at the Department of Justice, Homeland Security,
and throughout this government to identify, disrupt, dismantle, and destroy
these networks and make America safe again for the American people.
It will happen, and we will do it in Charlie's name.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
So, I mean, does that sound like anything the left
was saying in twenty two to twenty one. I don't
think so. This is a new level. Like these people
are not playing around. They're not trying to do some
sort of firings. They're not trying to get some edgy
left wing comedian or pundit fired. They are trying to
fundamentally use this moment, use the death of the person
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who they say it was their friend, to essentially eliminate
one half of American political discourse. And to see how
they've done. You know, for the first whatever nine months
of this presidential term, eight months of this presidential term,
they have for the most part at least try to
do everything they say they were gonna do. So they
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should be taken seriously in this. This is on one level,
completely outrageous and completely exposes the immoral nature for once
and for all of the right wing on free speech
and free discourse in free society, whatever. But on another
more serious, more scary level, it shows that the right
wing right now is prepared to do anything in every
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take really extraordinary measures to use the guise of the
Charlie Kirk death, because it's not just gonna be about
the Charlie Kirk death, but they're going to say, you
call Trump and fascists, you insult to Charlie Kirk here,
you in sold someone like Charlie Kirk there, you are
inciting violence. Therefore we have to dismantle your whole organization.
That is what is coming. And it is a really
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really scary situation, really really sad testament to where we
are as the country. It's really political violence that could
have been the probably eighty five Americans were completely disgusted
by myself included, and it is going to be used
right now to go so so much further than that.
(26:02):
I mean, we have you know, this is actually I
want to play this clip here. This is from Gavin
Newsom actually put this out. This is him a few
weeks of this before the Charlie Kirk shooting, where he
is talking about on Fox News. Gavin newsom hiding this.
Steven Miller is talking about the Democrats. This is how
he's labeling them.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Party does not fight for, care about, or represent American citizens.
It is an entity devoted exclusively to the defense of
hardened criminals, gang bankers, and illegal alien killers and terrorists.
The Democrat Party is not a political party. It is
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a domestic extremist organization.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yeah, so that is how he's talking about the Democrats
before Charlie Kirk shooting. Now he gets at least thinks
that he gets to blame a broad daily political assassination
on these same people that he already thinks are domestic terrorists.
And he's got fifty percent of the country, give or take,
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behind him in that belief. What is he going to
try and do? What organizations is he going to try
and come for. How many Democrats is going to try
and put in prison? How many democratic organizations is he
going to try and dismantle? Like this is a real
potential jumping off point where we could be witnessing the
beginning of a real assault on not even crazy radical
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lefting organizations, but just general standard democratic organizations. All because
of this, and they are telegraphing it right here on
the top levels of the administration. This is definitely something
to keep a very close eye on. Big new leagues
aren't revealing just how Israel was able to manipulate, no surprise,
(27:46):
our administration into the recent strikes in a war with Ron,
and we are also getting some more information about what
their plans are for doing it. Yet again, let's take
a look at this. This is from Jamal Abdy quoting
a who is the the NIAC Council president. He is
quoting what is a big report from Channel thirteen in
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Israel that was published and essentially goes through the leaked
transcripts of the Nyahu Security Cabinet meeting, which takes you
all through how of course they decided to go ahead
on these strikes. And the big thing is he has
some takeaways is that there was really no imminent threat
and that the big decision to push ahead on these
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strikes was largely because of an attempt to collapse regime
and cause mass civilian casualties in an effort to do so.
This is actually direct. It's kind of been saying that
these transcripts are really kept in so much detail, because
this is a really quite direct quote here from Natyaw
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who said at the meetings outset, we are at a
historic moment with a crucial decision if we don't stop
the Iranians within a few years, and again we just
we can do it in a few years, which essentially
what Tulci Gabbard said as a leader of US intelligence,
and Trump essentially said, I don't care is you will
convince me we're stopping them now. They will get tens
of thousands of kilograms of nuclear explosives. And this is
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kind of the embarrassing part for the US. This is
how they were dragged into the plan. Audif Chief of
Staff Al Zamir said, everything could be done very fast.
If the US cooperates with US, we can hit, make
the hit within forty eight hours, and that big part
of the hit, as we heard at the time, was
striking that nuclear base in Fourdoh. Strategic Affairs Manager Ron
Drummer said in the meaning that while speaking on the
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phone with Trump, Netania, who had pushed and maneuvered Trump
to make a decision on sending refueling plans to assist
the Israeli strikes, saying Florido would be only destroyed if
the US attacks it, so what Nea whud do? Pretty easy?
Probably he got on the phone and manipulated Trump. Apparently
the way he did it at the time was to
essentially come out and say, you know, we're we're hitting
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these strikes. We're getting into this big war, we're stopping
this big enemy. Mister president, we know your strongest, we
know we want to have you alongside us. And you know,
Trump essentially said, you know, this sounds pretty cool. I
want to be strong, I want to get an easy win.
As now convinced me that it was, so, why don't
I just go hit the strike? And as we were
reported at the time, was widely reported at a time,
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he then pretty quickly, pretty convincingly ruled out a further
strike because he didn't want to take the heat of it.
Essentially despite what Netania who may have wanted him to
go to. But this first strike was a big, critical,
uh really win for the Israelis in terms of getting
the United States on board with it, and that is
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something they were able to, by all accounts, pretty easily
able to do.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Israel only refrain refrained from mass targeting of civilians because
they wanted the US to take out a photo before
collapsing the country. Katz argued that relocating the population is
practical and symbolic. We should strike civilian national infrastructure. He said,
that destabilizes the leader. So again, this is this they
see it. They do not see any country within the
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region that as a strategy, as a tactic of war.
They are not completely comfortable striking the civilian population too,
as they say here. And this is by the way,
it supposedly one of the more moderate people in the
cabin This is not this is not a bank of
hear saying striking civilian national infrastructure that dese stay bis
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the leader to quote relocate the population, which is practical
and symbolic, like this is how these Raelious things And
this is going to put at as we saw with
the guitar strike, which I I forget if I was
honestly able to cover, but I don't think I actually was,
which is a really, really insane situation where they were
striking in this embassy. They are striking mediators, They're striking
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the country of the mediators, and it just shows these
are people who are not serious about peace. What many
smart people have said about this for quite a while
is they are set on dictating terms throughout the entire
Middle East, no matter how safe, no matter how independent,
no matter really, no matter how much oil money you
think you have, Israel is always going to be able
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to dictate the terms to you, going to be mess
around with your civilian population. Is going to be able
to control the quality of life in your country, greatly
impacting your sovereignty. And that is exactly what they are
seeking to do here, and that is what the US
is cooperating with them and supportive of them on really
every step of the way. It says there are military
targets to iron and the populations, Cats said, amid the
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population just as they are by the way, in Israel,
if Iran targets power stations, we won't have a dilemma
will a taxivilian infrastructure now, even though there are targets
we want to keep for later. And that's a pretty
important thing that Cats said their Cats is the Defense
Minister Determinors agreed, however, saying that if you are tax
avilion infrastructure now, it could end the war before we
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achieve our objectives and before an attack on Photo. So
you essentially said, let's hold off for thea who's out
get defensive US to get involved then will strike four too,
then we can strike the civilian infrastructure. But the key
thing there is the focus on saving this stuff for later,
and I think that is that is a very important
part of the equation because it really does speak to
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exactly what the product plans are. And you know now,
as we there's a story yesterday with France as well
saying telling Israel that they did not get the whole
They didn't get the whole thing there essentially with it
when it comes to the nuclear weapons, they're gonna have
to go back and restrike. It's really tracking exactly how
the Quinto president Treata Parsi said it would happen, where
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they essentially say, hey, we didn't get them all, we
need to hit them again. We can't let them readvelop
their nukes, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So that
justifies another strike, which AARAN is going to respond to
even more quickly. That is definitely something that could be
in the cards, and you can see it being hinted
here with this little peak, this little window into the
Israeli governments war plans. This is their This is literally
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direct quotes here from their cabinet meetings at the time
of this. You know, at the time of this, while
this was going on back in June, ministers debated hitting
civilian infrastructure like oil refineries after issuing warnings to the
nearby population to flee. Yeah, so this is he this
is the quote. Relocating the population is practical in Tabolka.
We should stric civilian national infrastructure that destabilizes the leader.
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So that is what they are really trying to do here.
KARMANI is not a souburn fanatic. If they surrender, is sorry,
is a stubborn fanatic. If they surrender, he will lose
his life's work. I support ending this only if we
deal with Phido and a few other things, but it's
not up to us, so we have to deal with
things as they are. Will destroy dozens of buildings after
evacuating civilians. If Iran continues to target our civilians. There
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are military targets in Tron amid the population. If people
escape Tron, that's a victory. So essentially trying to cause
this chaos, trying to essentially destroy the city of sixteen
million people. Remember Trump was tweeting, now evacuate Tron now
at four am in the morning Toronto time, so that
obviously was Afgan happens. It's essentially it's it's an an
attempt to cause fear and terror in the population to
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get them to turn against the political leaders, which is
something that really prompted the opposite response, where people are
rally around the flag mentality we are under siege, we
are trying to fix this situation, and you know, yeah,
it really is. It's disturbing window into how these people
operate and the fact that they're really the The key
(35:30):
thing they take away from this is that they are
building up for more. This is from Seamous Malek Asali.
This is quoting, i think from another Times of Israel piece.
So Israel's Defense minister ministry director reveals that every time Yemen,
this is just Yemen, and you know, you can imagine
the Iranian strike was quite a bit more expensive. You know,
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to destruct the Port of Jida in Yemen this morning.
Every time they have to intercept yem missile, it costs
up to nine million dollars. Every time they strike back,
it costs an average fifteen million dollars. The missiles from
Themen needs to keep firing, and you know, this is
a small country. They're not going to be able to
on their own produce enough armaments and get enough support
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to continue this war on the Seventh Front, war where
they have to fight off and very expensively fight off
every single arm of essentially the Iranian access from Hesbola
to Yemen, to Gaza as well and to of course
Iran themselves. But they are going to give it a try.
Shame as Manzali again reporting or quoting I guess from
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a Times of Visual report that canceled Western weapons deals
are leading the Israeli Defense Ministry to form in a
Supreme Armament Council to attempt to make the idea of
as self sufficient as Iran's military is. The explicit attempt
intent is to prepare for another war with Iran, more
war with Yemen, and more patriot attacks. So this is
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something that you know, it sounds fair, sounds like something
you know, they would like to be able to do
to you know, get their kind of military self sufficiency
and be able to bomb whoever they want. But they
if they were able to achieve this, it would take them,
you know, five ten years to really build up that capability.
To see Turkey is trying to do that as well,
and it took them about that time to really do
the same. And they're this, you know, to they're just
(37:20):
trying to Turkey's trying to focus on winning one war.
Israel now is trying to do six seven wars at
various different places all around the region. So they are
they are operating on a different level of requirement for
their military capacity there, which is going to be very
interesting to see how that unfolds. But of course, the biggest,
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the biggest person in this all is Donald Trump, and
he seems to be more incapable than ever of actively
managing this whole situation. Trump says that he was not
informed by netania who before Israel strike in Qatar. I'm
not sure which is worse, that he knew and didn't
stop it or alert Guitar early, or that he didn't
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know the editorializing there from Shibby Tilwane, who is a
reporter or sorry, professor at University of Maryland. Here's why
I think it may be even worse if he didn't know.
So either way, you know, he was essentially completely left
out in the dark right by Benjamin net Nyahu, and
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that is something that is going to be very very
embarrassing and also really really damaging for the future of
American politics when it comes to getting more involved in
more Israeli wars in the Middle East, the fact that
we have a president who is fundamentally incapable of stopping
the stuff from happening and ultimately really focused on bowing
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to Israel's every whim. We actually have a little bit
of good news in Democratic circles today. After much hemming
and hang we got this headline in the New York
Times on Sunday night, Kathy Hochel, Why I am endorsing
Zoran Ma Donnie Yes, the New York governor who did
win a pretty convincing victory for re election against somebody
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to her right after taking over for Andrew Cuomo after
he was obviously tripped out because of sexual harassment and
killing old people during COVID. She was a pretty big endorsement.
She was kind of a sign that the Democratic Party
was kind of coalescing, especially in New York, was coalescing
around or Mam Donni. And it's definitely an endorsement that
he's gonna be very happy to pick up. As he knows,
(39:29):
you know, Hokel isn't going anywhere to at least twenty
twenty six. Probably she's going to continue after that for
another four more years after she gets reelected, because you know,
it doesn't seem like there's anyone too strong going now
to challenge her. And he needs Mom Donnie needs hocal
support to get any of his agenda passed, because he
needs the support from Albany. So it's definitely endorsement that
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he's going to be happy to pick up. And I
think it's always very interesting to delve into the kind
of text of this and really get a sense of
how she is framing this. In this article to her
constituents in the New York Times, she says, in the
four years since I became Governor of New York, one
of my foundational beliefs has been the importance of the
office working hand in hand with the Mayor of New
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York City for the betterment of the eight point three
million residents we both represent. The question of who will
be the next mayor is one I take extremely seriously
into which I've devoted a great deal of thought. I
am endorsing Assemblymen Zorn Mom Donnie. In the past few months,
I had frank conversations with him. She says, we talked
through our disagreements, which was about talking about our She
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really says, in my conversations, I heard a leader who
shares my commitment to in New York where children can
grow up safe in their neighborhoods, and where opportunity is
within reach for every family. I heard a leader who's
focused on making New York City affordable a goal and
enthusiastically support. I shared with him my priorities, talking about,
you know, the NYPD and addressing anti Semitism, and he
did like to see. You know, this is a key
(40:55):
little nugget here. I ensured him. I urged to him
ensure that there is strong leadership at the helm of
the end, and he agreed. So that quote there seems
like a pretty strong indication that he's going to keep
the current leader of the anuputy Chief, Jessica Tish. So
that's something that the kind of center of New York
democratic politics as well wanted him to do. So it
seems like at least for now, he will be keeping that.
(41:17):
There also is a quote in here about him meeting
with Jewish leaders across the city, so it seems at
least she is satisfied with the effort that he's done
to actually calm them down. Even though if he's not
going to agree with everything that they say and they
won't agree with him, she's at least meeting to calm
them down. So that's a big reason why she's saying
she's endorsing this this candidate at this time. I emphasize
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to him, I believe in keeping and attracting businesses so
that New York New York remains the center of the
global economy and we create even more good paying jobs
for our residents. So you don't go too hard on business.
But it does seem, at least for the time, it's
a big indication. It's a big tip of the hat
to say that, hey, you know what, I may not
be your biggest fan, but I'm willing to work with
you when you inevitably get elected mayor. And Cathy Hochel
(42:04):
she also there's the headline here in the post she
was mocked after mom Nandi refused to back her reelection
despite her endorsement in the New York City governor's race.
So the question is, what is the relationship going to
be between them? And you know, to be clear, Mom Naddy.
This is not just a clickbait headline. He was asked
about this Hochl on Sunday endorsement NAUGHTI But Monday mom
Nadi declined to return the favor and did not pledge
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his backing of Hochel's reelection bit next year, at least
for the time being. So I think it is honestly
the smart way to do. It's like he's made the efforts,
he's made their outreach to some of the mom Naughty
has to some of the biggest people in New York
politics and democratic politics specifically, but he knows that he
has more power, He has better favorable ratings, He has
more of a head of esteem right now in terms
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of the momentum behind him, specifically within his own constituency
than any other New York City politician that is pretty
much undeniable at this point. And to a certain degree,
he has been conciliatory. He has really force it to have
people's throats. But I think this really kind of option
to kind of keep his cars open and say, wait
for another year, let's see how it goes. I think
that's something that is going to be incredibly smart and
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shows that he is independent and also, I think it's
very important to remind these people early on and keep
reminding them throughout your term in office that you are
independent and you will continue to be independent. And that
is something you know, very very very important. There, and
we take a look at this, she's kind of getting
a Mom Donnie bump here. This is kind of hard
to see the whole screen, but it says the favorability
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ratings for Kathy Hokl are up a little, but she
has her best favorability since January of twenty twenty four.
The majority say that she works hard, demonstrates honesty and integrity.
Plurality say that she gets things done, provides the size
of leadership, and cares about people like you. And you
can see here at the right side, you know she
has a job approval is at fourteen. Her favorability is
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at three. I think Mom Donnie's is like eight to ten,
probably some of the best numbers of any politician in
the country at this point. And you can see in
her pulling one on one versus leastaphonic who's probably gonna
be going against her for the Republican nomination for the
governor next year. She is going to come away winning
pretty handily. Pretty much about the way a New York
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governor should nothing too crazy, but pretty much about the
way New York governor should. But before she's at fifty
two percent. Now acrossing that fifty percent mark is a
big barrier for her. But if you look at back
at August fourth, when she was still dragging her feet
on endorsing Mind Bonney, she endorsed him. Uh way, it
was on Sunday, so that would be you know, three
days ago, it would be thirteenth, I think. Is this
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is before she even endorsed Mond Bonnie as well. But
you can see, no, she's kind of warming up to it.
She's holding these conversations. She has had a pretty big
bump in her pulling versus hocal sorry versus stephonic fifty
twenty seven versus forty five to thirty one just a
month earlier. So a pretty big indicator there of where
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the numbers are going. Here's another one from c and
Terry Inton talking about where Democrats are in the socialism
and so.
Speaker 5 (45:12):
So it's pretty interesting not among democratic voters. It's a
five letter word in the minds of a lot of Democrats,
that five letter word being great, Look at this net
popularity of socialism among democrats. You go back to twenty ten,
it was plus seven points. Look how high it is
now up like a rocket, up to plus thirty six points.
That's a jump of nearly thirty points on the net
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popularity scale among Democrats in just fifteen years. And I
was looking at the polling from New York City and
what you see is the clear plurality of New York democrat.
New York City democrats think the idea of having a
socialist mayor is a good idea, matching what we see nationally.
The bottom line is socialism isn't a dirty word among
Democrats at this particular point. It's actually a word that
one attach Democrats seem to like it.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
That's a huge jump, and.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
That's not that long ago.
Speaker 5 (45:57):
Let me add, now, what about capitalists?
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Yeah, okay, so if so, yeah, he goesn't talk about
capitalism among democrats. See if there's anything else here among.
Speaker 5 (46:06):
All adults, if Mondnnie in fact wins the general election
because they feel like they can play off of him,
because socialism may play in New York City among Democrats,
but among the general electorate, Donald Trump and the Republicans
are saying, hey, look at the socialist mayor in New
York City. This is what we're dealing with.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
So yeah, and that very well could be true. But
in terms of Mom Donnie, he's not really branding himself
as you know, proud socials, waving the red flag, all
that kind of stuff. He's saying, I'm gonna be left
or center. I'm gonna do things that most other left
wing people don't normally do, but I'm actually gonna do
it in a way that delivers the results first. And
we'll message the results first. But to message them, we
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need to deliver them, and that's gonna be a very
very important way to do it. You can't go, at
least in America with the kind of red ideology and
rely on that and be capitalism bashing all the time.
You know, it's certainly part of it. You gonna realize
people see why there's a problem. But if you're actually
finding out the terms of affordability and you're finding just
clear policy changes that work for New Yorkers, that can
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be a much better and much easier, by the way,
thing to message. If you are someone like Zora mom
Daddy dealing with kind of tough political environment here. We're
even seeing more endorsements coming in just as we are
recording this. This is Carl Heasty, Speaker of New York
statey is somem be expected to endorse Zora. I'm notty
for New York City mayor. He is the I would
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say third biggest politician if you got you know, states
or governor, state sent leader, state House leader. He's the
State House leader, and he's long held off on an endorsement.
He is I believe in New York City representatives, so
that is something that's pretty notable. Meanwhile, j Jacobs, no
surprise calling India Walton someone like David Duke, you know,
and back in a few years ago when she tried
(47:46):
to beat the incumbent, you know, no good mayor of Buffalo,
she called him or he called her someone like David
Duke and made sure that Byron Brown won as a Republican.
And Byron Brown course with the income Democratic mayor. So
he is unsurprisingly not endorsing Mamdanni. He is probably one
of the ring leaders of this incredibly corrupt Democratic Party. Meanwhile,
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though you have Andrew Cuomo, the self styled hyper aggressive
support of Israel, appearing to be shifting his tone on
the war in Gaza, and a New York Times interview
called the situation they're horrific, called for immediate enter the war,
and distanced himself from net Yahoo. Pose suggests that views
among Democrats and all New Yorkers have rapidly shifted over
the course of the war. And that's Cuomo whose position
(48:30):
is now out of step with public sentiment, posing a
potential political liability, saying he said I never stood with Bibe.
By the way, that's his poll quote, and this is
how Mamdanni responded. Yeah, so he little has a video
(48:54):
of him saying with the quote, I never stood with
Bib and then I am proud to be uh standing
with the minister against this heinous arrest war. This, by
the way, from the ICC well after October seventh. So
complete moral bankruptcy from Andrew Cuomo. A little bit of submission,
but with some qualifications from Casthy Hokel and you know
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Carl Hesty, they're the leader of the New York State House.
A big endorsement as well. But for the mayoral candidate,
Zora Mamdani, he is continuing to pick up steam re
or I guess unite the Democratic Party around his candidacy,
and continue to push his message out to a brother
(49:35):
swath of people. All right, that is all we have
for you on the show today. Thank you so much
for listening. We will be back later this week. Go
check out all of the clips from our show out
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Hello everyone, My name is Spencer Walsh. Welcome to today's show.
We have a good one for you. As always on
the show, today we are taking a little look at
the Charlie kirkshooting, including what the latest is and by
the way, I recorded this before we got to all
of the government announcements in terms of the charging papers
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that were released around four or five in the afternoon,
But I do think it paints much of the same
picture of who the suspect was, what exactly his motives were,
and how they are being processed by investigators and by
the country at large. And that also go to our
next story. We're taking a look at real efforts by
(00:54):
the government to essentially launch a campaign of cancel culture
against anyone who didn't really mourn Charlie Kirk sufficiently, and
how they may extend that to just broad mainstream liberal
roots in general. We'll also be taking a look at
how Israel manipulated Donald Trump in the Iran strike a
(01:16):
few months ago. And a big new endorsement from Zoran
Mom Donnie for Zorn Mam Donnie from New York Governor
Kathy Hochel. It's gonna be a very interesting show. Thank you.
So much for joining us here today. Once again, all
of our stories will be available on YouTube Spencer Walsh
(01:37):
YouTube channel, so go check them out. And without further ado,
let's start the show. So Charlie Kirk's murder, really cold
blood political assassination has continue to dominate the national conversation,
even as the suspect is in custody. Charges are expected
later today, official government charges. But in that time, we're
(01:58):
going to go through all of what we know at
this moment about the shooter, what his motives are, and
who he really was, and tried to get just a
better understanding of the situation. But also because we did
not do a show at the end of last week,
I do want to play a really, really great clip
that essentially sums up my thoughts about this situation and
(02:20):
really who Charlie Kirk was in the first place. They're
from a reverend by the name of Reverend doctor Howard
John Wesley and said, let's just get into him.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Charlie Kirk did not deserve to be assassinated.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
But I'm overwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Seeing the flags of the United States of America at
half staff, calling this nation to honor and venerate a
man who was an unapologetic racist has spent all of
his life sewing seas of division and hate into this land.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I mean, that's hard to deny. I'm sorry, that's hard
to deny.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Just as in hearing people with selective rage who were
mad about Charlie kirk but didn't give a damn about
Melissa Hortman and her when they were shot.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Down in their home, tell me how.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
To have compassion for the death of a man who
had no respect for my own.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Life, very very well said, I.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Am sorry, but there's nowhere in Bible where we are
taught to honor evil, and how you die does not
redeem how you lived.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I can't say really any better than that. So that's
why I want to play the clip to hurt the show.
It's like there's no one smart who is out there
saying right now that Charlie Kirkstad is doing anything to
help you know, the left is political class just general
stability of America in general. But with that being said,
we can more than death. We could say it was
a bad thing that must be avoided at all costs,
(04:11):
but we do not have to be delusional about how
the guy lived his life and what he was trying
to do, you know, in Hethercox Richardson. Also she's a
great historian. She said, it's almost weird in in some
ways direspectful to the moment a man dies, just remember
him completely different to how he lived his own life.
Is his life was? You know, implication was bad enough
(04:32):
that you got to change it from the actual reality
of how he lives his life when he dies, to
essentially whitewash the whole situation. So, you know, even still,
you know, we are continuing to try and understand the shooter,
understand his motives and really who he was. I think
this is for our gen Z audience out there, this
(04:52):
is gonna be a big help.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
This is Tyler's Robinson's high school classmate, essentially framing him
him as a Reddit kid.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
I went to school with this Tyler Robinson kid. I'll
show y'all that's same right there, Tyler Robinson. I'm not
trying to, like Clopchase, make this shit about me, but
I'm not gonna say I knew this kid really well.
I didn't know him very well at all, but I
definitely saw him for like three straight years in high school.
(05:23):
And the best way I could describe him is just
like a Reddit kid. I don't know, I feel like
if you were in high school around that same time
and even probably now like twenty eighteen and then like,
you know those kinds of kids, But that's exactly what
he was.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah, I think that's definitely a really good way of
putting it, and I want to you know, there's been
a whole bunch of misinterpretations, you know, these these bullet
misinterpretations that were you know, hey, bella Chow bella chow bellachow.
That was about you know, supposedly it was an anti
fascist song, but when it turns out to really be
a reference to Hell Divers Too, which is a video
(06:01):
game where that's a song that is part of the game.
You know, that's also backed up by the fact was hey,
hey fascist catch that's a reference from the game. You know.
My my friend actually told me this. I'm not a
gamer at all, much to my social hindrance with a
lot of my friends and my age group, but my friend,
who's a big gamer, it was like, yeah, this is
a big part of the game, you know, where it's
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essentially fascist satire type game. And then you know, a
lot of the other things were just clearly trolling references,
and it's a discord situation. It's a gaming situation where
it's like you're with these people, these Reddit kids that
you see, you know, it's it's it's a really an
isolated subgroup. It's an in group where it's like, yes,
they have their friends there, they socialize with each other
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mostly online, but they are much more removed than they
should be from the rest of the society. And that
leads to you know, you hear about NPC's non player
of characters for you know, those of you less less
removed from the game, more removed from the gaming world
out there. It's just essentially viewing people as just bots
that are doesn't really matter what happens to them. You know,
you can you can shoot him and it's not gonna
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be a really big deal. It's just gonna be one
big troll. And that's you get a sense that's really
a lot of how Tyler saw life and really what
some some of the thinking that allowed him to go
shoot a guy in front of everyone, leave him, leave
his family without a father, all that, you know, just
because it would be some sort of epic troll. You know,
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in the context of this lifestyle and this you know,
discord lifestyle where nothing really matters. Everything's gonna, you know,
burn anyway. So why not just do something crazy? You
whyt It just epic and radical, and that is a
really kind of isolated world that you can get to
when you're spending that much time online. And you know, yeah,
there's been so much do you kind of right, especially
(07:45):
right wing disformation about this. As the headline is, Charlie
kirk shooter Tyler Robinson lived with transgender partner according to
a source. But then you have Spencer Cox, or the
governor of Utah, coming out and saying the exact opposite.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
He was living and uh and had lived for a
long time with his family in Washington County in the
south most part of ours.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Thank you he was. Yeah, so he's saying there he
lived with his family in Washington County. He did not
live with a transgender partner. And then you know, I
would honestly filmed another version of the segment. And then
I saw this article come out from Ken Clipsy and
who actually got his hands on the leak messages from
Charlie Kirk's assassin, and it really does give a much
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fuller picture of who this shooter is and cutting through
some of the bs from the right trying to paint
this picture of this you know, hard left guy, just
someone who yes was isolated from the world, spent much
too much time in discord, maybe not enough time talking
with actual people. But he was not somebody who, at
least the way his friends saw it, was really committed
(08:47):
to one political side or the other. And here you
can see this is the discord messages that have been
circulating around where he essentially says someone else says, Charlie
Kirk got shot dead. I just saw the video. Holy shit.
All right, p I guess bro did not deserve to
go out like that sad. And then hey, guys, I
have bad news for you all. This is the count
(09:08):
that everyone says is associated with Tyler Robinson. It was
me at UVU yesterday. I'm sorry for all of this.
I'm surrendering through a shriff friend in a few moments,
which is pretty much exactly how he was reported to
have surrendered, which was through a friend of his father's
who was a youth pastor who's also a sheriff who's
ties to the US Marshall Service. Thank you all for everything.
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Thanks for all the good times and laughs, which is
kind of a hell of way to do it. The
federal conclusion will inevitably be Clippantstein says that he was
a nihilist, violent extremist, and you know, extremist to one
side that I think is gonna be somebody that's gonna
have a really hard time getting any clear evidence on.
It's been so terrible seeing it from an inside. Seeing
(09:49):
it from an inside perspective is so frustrating, said a
friend of Robinson's since middle school. The childhood friend, who
asked not to be named for fears of threats, provided
me above with the above, non public photo of Robinson
on a camping trip, a favorite activity of his, to
corroborate their relationship. And here you could see this is
I'm assuming the friend there and this is Robinson on
the camping trip. I think the main thing that's caused
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so much confusion is that he was always genuinely a
political for the most part. The friend told me the
big thing he just never talked politics, which is why
it's so frustrating. The picture that emerges bears little resemblance
to the media version Robinson. I'm told, though quiet was
a well liked person with supportive family. The friend group
he interacted with on discord far from some kind of
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militia camp or Antifa bunker. It's been portrayed as represented
arrange rator from political views, but mostly talked about video games. Yesterday,
ATBI director Cash Hotel said in an interview that Robinson
subscribed to left wing ideology, citing his family's remarks to investigators.
But those close to Robins say there's a lot his
family didn't know about him. The ideas are based on
someone they didn't fully understand. The childhood friend told me.
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Though the family was generally supportive of Robinson, claim corroborated
by his mother's Facebook account prayming with praise for Tyler,
they didn't seem to know about his relationship with the
transgender person named Lance, friend said. When I asked if
his family had been accepting, would have been accepting, the
friend replied, I don't even think Tyler knew the answer
that question, which is why he kept it so low
between themselves. Tyler's bisexuality, the friend said, was coupled with
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his oposness on LGBT issues, but he wasn't a cookie
cutter leftist on every or even most issues, his friends said.
Obviously he was okay with gay and trans people having
a right to exist, but also believes in the Second Amendment,
the friend said, referring to the right to the bare arms.
The friend described Robinson as a fairly typical young man
of his age from Utah, someone who loved the outdoors,
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was a gamer and in two guns. To all of us,
he seemed like a simple guy. Loved playing games like
Steve Thieves, Deep Barcalactic and hell Divers Too, which is
where the engravings from the bullets came from. Loved to fish,
love to camp. Didn't seem like that, did really seem
like that's what he was all about, because he was
posting a montage there of hell Divers Too, into the
(11:58):
unjust deep dive. The phrase inscribed on one of the
bullet casings from the shooting, Hey Fascists catch, though widely
reported to me and he was a man on the left,
is in fact a reference to the Hell Divers to game.
Three arrows, initially believed by federal agents to be a
reference to Antifa, are also referenced to hell Divers. Private
discord messages shared with me. But and that's you know,
it's how you drop a nuclear bomb in that game.
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Private discord messages shared with me by a friend of
Robinson's confirmed that Robinson wasn't some political martyr. Search from
posts of Robinson's containing keywords like Biden and Trump turned
up one hit each. The Trump post was a passing
reference to the twenty nineteen impeachment acquiring the Biden one
came on the day of the twenty twenty election, where
he essentually was trying to check in on the results
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of the election. I'm just saying this is on the
on the election day eleven three, twenty, Biden is in
the lead electoral votes wise, but there are still some
swing states that haven't finished voting, as well as most
of the West Coast. So does someone who just seemed
to passively follow politics, but really to these discord chats
paint the picture was involved in a bunch of other
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stuff like gaming, fishing, camping, whatever, whatever. Even the goodbye
message he sent in one of our service where discord
chats are hosted was so hard to believe. We all
just thought it was what a weird joke to make.
Then the news came out and we were all calling
each other saying check the news. He said, this is
the friend.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I don't know what makes a person like him decide
he's going to drive two hundred and sixty miles upstate
to shoot someone like Charlie Kirk then come back like
nothing happened. It leaves a lot of room for speculation
and theories, which why I think they're so rampant. And
it just seems he was kind of a quiet guy,
stone cold, poker face. He can never be confident assuming
what he really said. As far as we knew, he
never opened up, said a friend. Despite his verbal redicence,
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Robinson was not a loneer, according to his friends, Unlike
the stereotypical outcast shooter driven by violence, driven violence by
social rejection, he was apparently amiable and well liked. Everyone
who knew him liked him because he was always nice,
a little quiet, and kept to himself mostly, but wasn't
a recluse. You know. Seems exactly as I said, with
these typical Reddit kids. If you're gen Z, I'm sure
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you can think of at least one or two people
like this. They had their friend group. They are always
on discord, they're always you know, talking to each other
always talking about some game, but they didn't really care
about anything else going on, whether it be what the
cool kids are doing, the sports games, the new movies
coming out. They weren't really just generally involved in mainstream society.
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Regardless of the horrific actions that took place, we must
all take this moment to remember that God is a
living and loving God who loves all his discord posts
from another friend, posted the day after the shooting reads,
while Charlie Kirk's politics were not acceptable to some, that
asked me say a prayer for him and his family
during these confusing times. So that's part of this discord chat.
The last matches is religious in nature, which goes to
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show the apolitical nature of the servant. We all have
some different views on politics. We'd all just exist as
friends and play some stuff. And we got cat memes
whether updates home improvement and some Garfield references were in
Robinson's post. You know this is posting of southern Utah
with the weather, some problems with home improvement. The federal government,
the Washington crowd, and the corporate media based of Washington
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and New York see this country in holy partisan terms.
Republican versus democrat, red versus blue, old media versus social media,
you know all this, you know, so on and so forth.
Charlie Kirk's assassination in Utah should remind us of the
actual diversity of the nation and the cost of polarization
that demonizes the other side. And I think that is
so so important as we get a really kind of
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a good picture of this guy was a guy who
you know what possessed him to actually, as the friend said,
drive up two hundred and sixty miles and shoot somebody
like Charlie Kirkham, then just go back like nothing happened.
That's something we don't know yet. We just don't know.
But to frame this as some sort of hard left
or some hard right action rather than just a case
of isolation from society and just a sense of the
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general you know, combination of gun culture and untreatmental illness
in this society leaving someone to do something that is
absolutely awful. You know that being the motive here rather
than being politically motivated is looking more and more likely,
and it is really important that we draw the right
conclusions to go forward on this, to make sure that
we are better prepared for such similar events in the future.
(16:14):
So there's a really important effort right now that's unfolding
from the federal government, not just to regulate, you know,
if you are mean to Charlie Kirk on his death,
you are gonna get fired, but really using the federal
government now for the first time to try and come
in and essentially be the morning police on people with
regard to Charlie Kirk and using this really more generally
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to expand federal government power over all sorts of dissent.
This is the headline here in the New York Times.
White House plans broad crackdown on liberal groups. Some of
the highest ranking officials in the federal government used Charlie
Kirk's own podcast, which was guest hosted today by Vice
President Jad Fans, to lay out their plans to essentially
(16:59):
dominate this really upcoming political discussion with regarder Jolie Kirk
and use it to increase their power over American political
society and politics in general more broadly. And just let's
get through some of the quotes on this. So Trump
weighed in he's been essentially downplaying all sorts of right
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wing violence, which has been if you look at any
sort of unbiased research group has been the bulk of
political violence over the last ten fifteen years. We have,
you know, from mass shootings that are inspired by right
wingers to right on left violence. Obviously there has been
some left on right violence, but that is not kind
of pales in comparison. And as we talked about in
the last segment, I don't think you can essentially count
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what this guy did, what Robinson did about Tyler Robinson,
the shooter of Kirk, as some sort of political incident.
You know, it's really just a case of isolation from society,
just too much time on discord and really, as his
friends say, being generally a political But that has not
stopped the trumpministration from real pushing here to demonize their
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political eminy and enemies. He said. We have some pretty
radical groups and they got away with murder, he said,
without naming the additional groups. He added that he was
talking to Attorney General Pam Bondie about bringing charges against
the Racketeer, Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, so that's otherwise
known as the RICO Act against some of the people
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that you've been reading about who have been putting up
millions and millions of dollars for agitation. So here is
Attorney General Pam Bondi essentially backing him up on Katie
Miller's podcast.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
There's free speech and then there's hate speech, and there
is no place, especially now, especially after what happened to
Charlie in our society.
Speaker 7 (18:44):
Do you see more law enforcement going after these groups
who are using hate speech and putting cuffs on people.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
So we show them that some action is better than
no action.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
We will absolutely target you, go after you if you
are targeting anyone with hate speech anything, and that's across
the aisle. There's free speech and then there's hate speech.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
We will target you. We will put at least, to
use Katie Millo's words, we're gonna put cups on you
if you are not appropriately if you're not condoning this stuff,
or if you in some way played a role on it.
Like this goes against first of all, you know there
is and it's a debatable situation, there is a place
for hate speech in the constitution. It's called the First
Amendment of the Constitution, where it does not make any
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sort of speech exception for free speech. And I noticed
because that's what I heard from right wingers consistently from
about twenty twenty to twenty twenty two. When it came
to all the stuff about cancel culture, it's like, you
may people may say things that are disgusting and repellent,
and I don't support them, but it's America and they
have the right to say them. You know, are you
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really going to cancel them from the fire them from
their jobs and going to ruin their lives over it?
Are you going to shut down these organizations? And you know,
that was a situation that was open for you debate,
and I think, you know, if you do have a
situation where you know, you have people who are really
doing awful thing or saying awful things and hold awful values,
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do you really want to have them in places like
teaching kids or being in hospitals or things like that
positions of power? You know, I think that is a
legitimate question. But this is something that is a complete
example of hypocrisy, and it's incredibly convenient as something that
we said. I remember saying back to the time was
it's only free speech until you're the one who's getting offended,
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and the moment it comes back against you, you're like,
let's get this let's punish this person as much as
humanly possible. And the thing is they're not just trying
to punish people who they disagree with. They're going above
and beyond in a big way by promising to use
the federal government to come in and go after liberal groups.
It's like if Joe Biden or whoever, Kamala Harris, whoever
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had in the process of the twenty twenty election, said
anyone who celebrates George Floyd's murder, which, by the way,
Charlie Kirk, I believe he has a quote where he's like,
it may be here in this list something about George Floyd,
but I do know, and you can actually back me
up at this. I'm confident enough to say this on air.
He did say, you know, on fifth year Anniversity of
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George Floyd Deak It's like, congratulations, it's five years for
George Floyd sober. You know. The inverse of what the
Trump administration is doing now is to say, Joe Biden,
Kamala Harris, whoever's running for presidents at the time, say
when we get into office, we're gonna unleash the full
federal power of the United States government on Charlie Kirk
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for these things that he said, because there's hate speech,
and there's no place in the constitution for hate speech.
So we're going to not just criticize him, not just
try and get him fired from his job. We are
gonna use the power of the federal government to go
after and use Rico charges to go after his organization
and oranizations that are connected with it. That is what
we are talking about, the federal government using their power
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to do on liberal organizations, not just because even they
probably came out and condemned it, but because they called,
you know, move On or whatever or whatever, you know,
liberal activist organization who can Indivisible called Trump a fascist
or someone in that organization called Trump a fascist, then
it'll be used an excuse to do reco charged against him.
It's a complete violation. It's also a complete stepping up
(22:29):
in terms of cancel culture beyond where the left ever
was in the height of their cancel culture, which I
would admit went too far back in twenty one twenty two.
This is a new level and you can see it
here even more strongly with Stephen Miller and who's quoted
here by Aaron Rupar saying some pretty crazy things. This
is when he was on, by the way, Charlie Kirk
(22:50):
Show talking to the Vice President Jadvans. By the way,
Stephen Miller also a wet House Deputy chief of staff
for policy, so he's a pretty big role in this.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
Maybe you know what emotions I'm feeling right now, and
this is something people say, I mean, you kind of
know the answer. There's incredible sadness, but there's incredible anger.
And the thing about anger is that unfocused anger or
blind rage is not a productive emotion, but focused anger,
righteous anger, directed for a just cause is one of
the most important agents of change in human history. And
(23:22):
we are going to channel all of the anger that
we have over the organized campaign that led to this
assassination to uproot and dismantle these terrorist networks. So let
me explain a bit what that means, so.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Seconds quick, Steven.
Speaker 7 (23:38):
The organized docs and campaigns, the organized riots, the organized
street violence, the organized campaigns of dehumanization, vilification, posting people's addresses,
combining that with messaging that designed to trigger inside violence,
and the actual organized cells that carry out and facilitate
the violence. It is a vast domestic terror movement. And
with the God is My witness. We're gonna use every
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resource we have at the Department of Justice, Homeland Security,
and throughout this government to identify, disrupt, dismantle, and destroy
these networks and make America safe again for the American people.
It will happen, and we will do it in Charlie's name.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
So, I mean, does that sound like anything the left
was saying in twenty two to twenty one. I don't
think so. This is a new level. Like these people
are not playing around. They're not trying to do some
sort of firings. They're not trying to get some edgy
left wing comedian or pundit fired. They are trying to
fundamentally use this moment, use the death of the person
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who they say it was their friend, to essentially eliminate
one half of American political discourse. And to see how
they've done. You know, for the first whatever nine months
of this presidential term, eight months of this presidential term,
they have for the most part at least try to
do everything they say they were gonna do. So they
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should be taken seriously in this. This is on one level,
completely outrageous and completely exposes the immoral nature for once
and for all of the right wing on free speech
and free discourse in free society, whatever. But on another
more serious, more scary level, it shows that the right
wing right now is prepared to do anything in every
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take really extraordinary measures to use the guise of the
Charlie Kirk death, because it's not just gonna be about
the Charlie Kirk death, but they're going to say, you
call Trump and fascists, you insult to Charlie Kirk here,
you in sold someone like Charlie Kirk there, you are
inciting violence. Therefore we have to dismantle your whole organization.
That is what is coming. And it is a really
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really scary situation, really really sad testament to where we
are as the country. It's really political violence that could
have been the probably eighty five Americans were completely disgusted
by myself included, and it is going to be used
right now to go so so much further than that.
(26:02):
I mean, we have you know, this is actually I
want to play this clip here. This is from Gavin
Newsom actually put this out. This is him a few
weeks of this before the Charlie Kirk shooting, where he
is talking about on Fox News. Gavin newsom hiding this.
Steven Miller is talking about the Democrats. This is how
he's labeling them.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Party does not fight for, care about, or represent American citizens.
It is an entity devoted exclusively to the defense of
hardened criminals, gang bankers, and illegal alien killers and terrorists.
The Democrat Party is not a political party. It is
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a domestic extremist organization.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yeah, so that is how he's talking about the Democrats
before Charlie Kirk shooting. Now he gets at least thinks
that he gets to blame a broad daily political assassination
on these same people that he already thinks are domestic terrorists.
And he's got fifty percent of the country, give or take,
(27:04):
behind him in that belief. What is he going to
try and do? What organizations is he going to try
and come for. How many Democrats is going to try
and put in prison? How many democratic organizations is he
going to try and dismantle? Like this is a real
potential jumping off point where we could be witnessing the
beginning of a real assault on not even crazy radical
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lefting organizations, but just general standard democratic organizations. All because
of this, and they are telegraphing it right here on
the top levels of the administration. This is definitely something
to keep a very close eye on. Big new leagues
aren't revealing just how Israel was able to manipulate, no surprise,
(27:46):
our administration into the recent strikes in a war with Ron,
and we are also getting some more information about what
their plans are for doing it. Yet again, let's take
a look at this. This is from Jamal Abdy quoting
a who is the the NIAC Council president. He is
quoting what is a big report from Channel thirteen in
(28:08):
Israel that was published and essentially goes through the leaked
transcripts of the Nyahu Security Cabinet meeting, which takes you
all through how of course they decided to go ahead
on these strikes. And the big thing is he has
some takeaways is that there was really no imminent threat
and that the big decision to push ahead on these
(28:30):
strikes was largely because of an attempt to collapse regime
and cause mass civilian casualties in an effort to do so.
This is actually direct. It's kind of been saying that
these transcripts are really kept in so much detail, because
this is a really quite direct quote here from Natyaw
(28:50):
who said at the meetings outset, we are at a
historic moment with a crucial decision if we don't stop
the Iranians within a few years, and again we just
we can do it in a few years, which essentially
what Tulci Gabbard said as a leader of US intelligence,
and Trump essentially said, I don't care is you will
convince me we're stopping them now. They will get tens
of thousands of kilograms of nuclear explosives. And this is
(29:12):
kind of the embarrassing part for the US. This is
how they were dragged into the plan. Audif Chief of
Staff Al Zamir said, everything could be done very fast.
If the US cooperates with US, we can hit, make
the hit within forty eight hours, and that big part
of the hit, as we heard at the time, was
striking that nuclear base in Fourdoh. Strategic Affairs Manager Ron
Drummer said in the meaning that while speaking on the
(29:34):
phone with Trump, Netania, who had pushed and maneuvered Trump
to make a decision on sending refueling plans to assist
the Israeli strikes, saying Florido would be only destroyed if
the US attacks it, so what Nea whud do? Pretty easy?
Probably he got on the phone and manipulated Trump. Apparently
the way he did it at the time was to
essentially come out and say, you know, we're we're hitting
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these strikes. We're getting into this big war, we're stopping
this big enemy. Mister president, we know your strongest, we
know we want to have you alongside us. And you know,
Trump essentially said, you know, this sounds pretty cool. I
want to be strong, I want to get an easy win.
As now convinced me that it was, so, why don't
I just go hit the strike? And as we were
reported at the time, was widely reported at a time,
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he then pretty quickly, pretty convincingly ruled out a further
strike because he didn't want to take the heat of it.
Essentially despite what Netania who may have wanted him to
go to. But this first strike was a big, critical,
uh really win for the Israelis in terms of getting
the United States on board with it, and that is
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something they were able to, by all accounts, pretty easily
able to do.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Israel only refrain refrained from mass targeting of civilians because
they wanted the US to take out a photo before
collapsing the country. Katz argued that relocating the population is
practical and symbolic. We should strike civilian national infrastructure. He said,
that destabilizes the leader. So again, this is this they
see it. They do not see any country within the
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region that as a strategy, as a tactic of war.
They are not completely comfortable striking the civilian population too,
as they say here. And this is by the way,
it supposedly one of the more moderate people in the
cabin This is not this is not a bank of
hear saying striking civilian national infrastructure that dese stay bis
(31:24):
the leader to quote relocate the population, which is practical
and symbolic, like this is how these Raelious things And
this is going to put at as we saw with
the guitar strike, which I I forget if I was
honestly able to cover, but I don't think I actually was,
which is a really, really insane situation where they were
striking in this embassy. They are striking mediators, They're striking
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the country of the mediators, and it just shows these
are people who are not serious about peace. What many
smart people have said about this for quite a while
is they are set on dictating terms throughout the entire
Middle East, no matter how safe, no matter how independent,
no matter really, no matter how much oil money you
think you have, Israel is always going to be able
(32:09):
to dictate the terms to you, going to be mess
around with your civilian population. Is going to be able
to control the quality of life in your country, greatly
impacting your sovereignty. And that is exactly what they are
seeking to do here, and that is what the US
is cooperating with them and supportive of them on really
every step of the way. It says there are military
targets to iron and the populations, Cats said, amid the
(32:33):
population just as they are by the way, in Israel,
if Iran targets power stations, we won't have a dilemma
will a taxivilian infrastructure now, even though there are targets
we want to keep for later. And that's a pretty
important thing that Cats said their Cats is the Defense
Minister Determinors agreed, however, saying that if you are tax
avilion infrastructure now, it could end the war before we
(32:53):
achieve our objectives and before an attack on Photo. So
you essentially said, let's hold off for thea who's out
get defensive US to get involved then will strike four too,
then we can strike the civilian infrastructure. But the key
thing there is the focus on saving this stuff for later,
and I think that is that is a very important
part of the equation because it really does speak to
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exactly what the product plans are. And you know now,
as we there's a story yesterday with France as well
saying telling Israel that they did not get the whole
They didn't get the whole thing there essentially with it
when it comes to the nuclear weapons, they're gonna have
to go back and restrike. It's really tracking exactly how
the Quinto president Treata Parsi said it would happen, where
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they essentially say, hey, we didn't get them all, we
need to hit them again. We can't let them readvelop
their nukes, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So that
justifies another strike, which AARAN is going to respond to
even more quickly. That is definitely something that could be
in the cards, and you can see it being hinted
here with this little peak, this little window into the
Israeli governments war plans. This is their This is literally
(34:00):
direct quotes here from their cabinet meetings at the time
of this. You know, at the time of this, while
this was going on back in June, ministers debated hitting
civilian infrastructure like oil refineries after issuing warnings to the
nearby population to flee. Yeah, so this is he this
is the quote. Relocating the population is practical in Tabolka.
We should stric civilian national infrastructure that destabilizes the leader.
(34:22):
So that is what they are really trying to do here.
KARMANI is not a souburn fanatic. If they surrender, is sorry,
is a stubborn fanatic. If they surrender, he will lose
his life's work. I support ending this only if we
deal with Phido and a few other things, but it's
not up to us, so we have to deal with
things as they are. Will destroy dozens of buildings after
evacuating civilians. If Iran continues to target our civilians. There
(34:47):
are military targets in Tron amid the population. If people
escape Tron, that's a victory. So essentially trying to cause
this chaos, trying to essentially destroy the city of sixteen
million people. Remember Trump was tweeting, now evacuate Tron now
at four am in the morning Toronto time, so that
obviously was Afgan happens. It's essentially it's it's an an
attempt to cause fear and terror in the population to
(35:08):
get them to turn against the political leaders, which is
something that really prompted the opposite response, where people are
rally around the flag mentality we are under siege, we
are trying to fix this situation, and you know, yeah,
it really is. It's disturbing window into how these people
operate and the fact that they're really the The key
(35:30):
thing they take away from this is that they are
building up for more. This is from Seamous Malek Asali.
This is quoting, i think from another Times of Israel piece.
So Israel's Defense minister ministry director reveals that every time Yemen,
this is just Yemen, and you know, you can imagine
the Iranian strike was quite a bit more expensive. You know,
(35:54):
to destruct the Port of Jida in Yemen this morning.
Every time they have to intercept yem missile, it costs
up to nine million dollars. Every time they strike back,
it costs an average fifteen million dollars. The missiles from
Themen needs to keep firing, and you know, this is
a small country. They're not going to be able to
on their own produce enough armaments and get enough support
(36:15):
to continue this war on the Seventh Front, war where
they have to fight off and very expensively fight off
every single arm of essentially the Iranian access from Hesbola
to Yemen, to Gaza as well and to of course
Iran themselves. But they are going to give it a try.
Shame as Manzali again reporting or quoting I guess from
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a Times of Visual report that canceled Western weapons deals
are leading the Israeli Defense Ministry to form in a
Supreme Armament Council to attempt to make the idea of
as self sufficient as Iran's military is. The explicit attempt
intent is to prepare for another war with Iran, more
war with Yemen, and more patriot attacks. So this is
(36:58):
something that you know, it sounds fair, sounds like something
you know, they would like to be able to do
to you know, get their kind of military self sufficiency
and be able to bomb whoever they want. But they
if they were able to achieve this, it would take them,
you know, five ten years to really build up that capability.
To see Turkey is trying to do that as well,
and it took them about that time to really do
the same. And they're this, you know, to they're just
(37:20):
trying to Turkey's trying to focus on winning one war.
Israel now is trying to do six seven wars at
various different places all around the region. So they are
they are operating on a different level of requirement for
their military capacity there, which is going to be very
interesting to see how that unfolds. But of course, the biggest,
(37:41):
the biggest person in this all is Donald Trump, and
he seems to be more incapable than ever of actively
managing this whole situation. Trump says that he was not
informed by netania who before Israel strike in Qatar. I'm
not sure which is worse, that he knew and didn't
stop it or alert Guitar early, or that he didn't
(38:02):
know the editorializing there from Shibby Tilwane, who is a
reporter or sorry, professor at University of Maryland. Here's why
I think it may be even worse if he didn't know.
So either way, you know, he was essentially completely left
out in the dark right by Benjamin net Nyahu, and
(38:24):
that is something that is going to be very very
embarrassing and also really really damaging for the future of
American politics when it comes to getting more involved in
more Israeli wars in the Middle East, the fact that
we have a president who is fundamentally incapable of stopping
the stuff from happening and ultimately really focused on bowing
(38:44):
to Israel's every whim. We actually have a little bit
of good news in Democratic circles today. After much hemming
and hang we got this headline in the New York
Times on Sunday night, Kathy Hochel, Why I am endorsing
Zoran Ma Donnie Yes, the New York governor who did
win a pretty convincing victory for re election against somebody
(39:08):
to her right after taking over for Andrew Cuomo after
he was obviously tripped out because of sexual harassment and
killing old people during COVID. She was a pretty big endorsement.
She was kind of a sign that the Democratic Party
was kind of coalescing, especially in New York, was coalescing
around or Mam Donni. And it's definitely an endorsement that
he's gonna be very happy to pick up. As he knows,
(39:29):
you know, Hokel isn't going anywhere to at least twenty
twenty six. Probably she's going to continue after that for
another four more years after she gets reelected, because you know,
it doesn't seem like there's anyone too strong going now
to challenge her. And he needs Mom Donnie needs hocal
support to get any of his agenda passed, because he
needs the support from Albany. So it's definitely endorsement that
(39:51):
he's going to be happy to pick up. And I
think it's always very interesting to delve into the kind
of text of this and really get a sense of
how she is framing this. In this article to her
constituents in the New York Times, she says, in the
four years since I became Governor of New York, one
of my foundational beliefs has been the importance of the
office working hand in hand with the Mayor of New
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York City for the betterment of the eight point three
million residents we both represent. The question of who will
be the next mayor is one I take extremely seriously
into which I've devoted a great deal of thought. I
am endorsing Assemblymen Zorn Mom Donnie. In the past few months,
I had frank conversations with him. She says, we talked
through our disagreements, which was about talking about our She
(40:34):
really says, in my conversations, I heard a leader who
shares my commitment to in New York where children can
grow up safe in their neighborhoods, and where opportunity is
within reach for every family. I heard a leader who's
focused on making New York City affordable a goal and
enthusiastically support. I shared with him my priorities, talking about,
you know, the NYPD and addressing anti Semitism, and he
did like to see. You know, this is a key
(40:55):
little nugget here. I ensured him. I urged to him
ensure that there is strong leadership at the helm of
the end, and he agreed. So that quote there seems
like a pretty strong indication that he's going to keep
the current leader of the anuputy Chief, Jessica Tish. So
that's something that the kind of center of New York
democratic politics as well wanted him to do. So it
seems like at least for now, he will be keeping that.
(41:17):
There also is a quote in here about him meeting
with Jewish leaders across the city, so it seems at
least she is satisfied with the effort that he's done
to actually calm them down. Even though if he's not
going to agree with everything that they say and they
won't agree with him, she's at least meeting to calm
them down. So that's a big reason why she's saying
she's endorsing this this candidate at this time. I emphasize
(41:40):
to him, I believe in keeping and attracting businesses so
that New York New York remains the center of the
global economy and we create even more good paying jobs
for our residents. So you don't go too hard on business.
But it does seem, at least for the time, it's
a big indication. It's a big tip of the hat
to say that, hey, you know what, I may not
be your biggest fan, but I'm willing to work with
you when you inevitably get elected mayor. And Cathy Hochel
(42:04):
she also there's the headline here in the post she
was mocked after mom Nandi refused to back her reelection
despite her endorsement in the New York City governor's race.
So the question is, what is the relationship going to
be between them? And you know, to be clear, Mom Naddy.
This is not just a clickbait headline. He was asked
about this Hochl on Sunday endorsement NAUGHTI But Monday mom
Nadi declined to return the favor and did not pledge
(42:27):
his backing of Hochel's reelection bit next year, at least
for the time being. So I think it is honestly
the smart way to do. It's like he's made the efforts,
he's made their outreach to some of the mom Naughty
has to some of the biggest people in New York
politics and democratic politics specifically, but he knows that he
has more power, He has better favorable ratings, He has
more of a head of esteem right now in terms
(42:49):
of the momentum behind him, specifically within his own constituency
than any other New York City politician that is pretty
much undeniable at this point. And to a certain degree,
he has been conciliatory. He has really force it to have
people's throats. But I think this really kind of option
to kind of keep his cars open and say, wait
for another year, let's see how it goes. I think
that's something that is going to be incredibly smart and
(43:11):
shows that he is independent and also, I think it's
very important to remind these people early on and keep
reminding them throughout your term in office that you are
independent and you will continue to be independent. And that
is something you know, very very very important. There, and
we take a look at this, she's kind of getting
a Mom Donnie bump here. This is kind of hard
to see the whole screen, but it says the favorability
(43:34):
ratings for Kathy Hokl are up a little, but she
has her best favorability since January of twenty twenty four.
The majority say that she works hard, demonstrates honesty and integrity.
Plurality say that she gets things done, provides the size
of leadership, and cares about people like you. And you
can see here at the right side, you know she
has a job approval is at fourteen. Her favorability is
(43:55):
at three. I think Mom Donnie's is like eight to ten,
probably some of the best numbers of any politician in
the country at this point. And you can see in
her pulling one on one versus leastaphonic who's probably gonna
be going against her for the Republican nomination for the
governor next year. She is going to come away winning
pretty handily. Pretty much about the way a New York
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governor should nothing too crazy, but pretty much about the
way New York governor should. But before she's at fifty
two percent. Now acrossing that fifty percent mark is a
big barrier for her. But if you look at back
at August fourth, when she was still dragging her feet
on endorsing Mind Bonney, she endorsed him. Uh way, it
was on Sunday, so that would be you know, three
days ago, it would be thirteenth, I think. Is this
(44:41):
is before she even endorsed Mond Bonnie as well. But
you can see, no, she's kind of warming up to it.
She's holding these conversations. She has had a pretty big
bump in her pulling versus hocal sorry versus stephonic fifty
twenty seven versus forty five to thirty one just a
month earlier. So a pretty big indicator there of where
(45:03):
the numbers are going. Here's another one from c and
Terry Inton talking about where Democrats are in the socialism
and so.
Speaker 5 (45:12):
So it's pretty interesting not among democratic voters. It's a
five letter word in the minds of a lot of Democrats,
that five letter word being great, Look at this net
popularity of socialism among democrats. You go back to twenty ten,
it was plus seven points. Look how high it is
now up like a rocket, up to plus thirty six points.
That's a jump of nearly thirty points on the net
(45:33):
popularity scale among Democrats in just fifteen years. And I
was looking at the polling from New York City and
what you see is the clear plurality of New York democrat.
New York City democrats think the idea of having a
socialist mayor is a good idea, matching what we see nationally.
The bottom line is socialism isn't a dirty word among
Democrats at this particular point. It's actually a word that
one attach Democrats seem to like it.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
That's a huge jump, and.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
That's not that long ago.
Speaker 5 (45:57):
Let me add, now, what about capitalists?
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Yeah, okay, so if so, yeah, he goesn't talk about
capitalism among democrats. See if there's anything else here among.
Speaker 5 (46:06):
All adults, if Mondnnie in fact wins the general election
because they feel like they can play off of him,
because socialism may play in New York City among Democrats,
but among the general electorate, Donald Trump and the Republicans
are saying, hey, look at the socialist mayor in New
York City. This is what we're dealing with.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
So yeah, and that very well could be true. But
in terms of Mom Donnie, he's not really branding himself
as you know, proud socials, waving the red flag, all
that kind of stuff. He's saying, I'm gonna be left
or center. I'm gonna do things that most other left
wing people don't normally do, but I'm actually gonna do
it in a way that delivers the results first. And
we'll message the results first. But to message them, we
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need to deliver them, and that's gonna be a very
very important way to do it. You can't go, at
least in America with the kind of red ideology and
rely on that and be capitalism bashing all the time.
You know, it's certainly part of it. You gonna realize
people see why there's a problem. But if you're actually
finding out the terms of affordability and you're finding just
clear policy changes that work for New Yorkers, that can
(47:03):
be a much better and much easier, by the way,
thing to message. If you are someone like Zora mom
Daddy dealing with kind of tough political environment here. We're
even seeing more endorsements coming in just as we are
recording this. This is Carl Heasty, Speaker of New York
statey is somem be expected to endorse Zora. I'm notty
for New York City mayor. He is the I would
(47:25):
say third biggest politician if you got you know, states
or governor, state sent leader, state House leader. He's the
State House leader, and he's long held off on an endorsement.
He is I believe in New York City representatives, so
that is something that's pretty notable. Meanwhile, j Jacobs, no
surprise calling India Walton someone like David Duke, you know,
and back in a few years ago when she tried
(47:46):
to beat the incumbent, you know, no good mayor of Buffalo,
she called him or he called her someone like David
Duke and made sure that Byron Brown won as a Republican.
And Byron Brown course with the income Democratic mayor. So
he is unsurprisingly not endorsing Mamdanni. He is probably one
of the ring leaders of this incredibly corrupt Democratic Party. Meanwhile,
(48:09):
though you have Andrew Cuomo, the self styled hyper aggressive
support of Israel, appearing to be shifting his tone on
the war in Gaza, and a New York Times interview
called the situation they're horrific, called for immediate enter the war,
and distanced himself from net Yahoo. Pose suggests that views
among Democrats and all New Yorkers have rapidly shifted over
the course of the war. And that's Cuomo whose position
(48:30):
is now out of step with public sentiment, posing a
potential political liability, saying he said I never stood with Bibe.
By the way, that's his poll quote, and this is
how Mamdanni responded. Yeah, so he little has a video
(48:54):
of him saying with the quote, I never stood with
Bib and then I am proud to be uh standing
with the minister against this heinous arrest war. This, by
the way, from the ICC well after October seventh. So
complete moral bankruptcy from Andrew Cuomo. A little bit of submission,
but with some qualifications from Casthy Hokel and you know
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Carl Hesty, they're the leader of the New York State House.
A big endorsement as well. But for the mayoral candidate,
Zora Mamdani, he is continuing to pick up steam re
or I guess unite the Democratic Party around his candidacy,
and continue to push his message out to a brother
(49:35):
swath of people. All right, that is all we have
for you on the show today. Thank you so much
for listening. We will be back later this week. Go
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