September 19, 2025 • 54 mins
Also, analyzing her response to a Charlie Kirk resolution, Jon Stewart slams the Kimmel cancellation, a poll shows Trump bleeding support with Latinos and Francesca Hong runs for Wisconsin Governor
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Hello everyone, My name is Bench Walsh. Thank you so
much for joining us here today. We have a great
show for you. As always on the show, today we
are taking a look at a big new report suggesting
AOC is molling a potential presidential run. She's also considering
taking Chuck Schumer on in the Senate. Either way, it's
gonna be a big twenty twenty eight for her and
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the Democratic Party will take a look at her campaign
and a bunch of other extending Democratic campaigns out there
that are percolating. Also, we're taking a look at AOC's
strong speech today taking on the revisionist history, surranding Charlie
Kirk and his legacy, particularly resolution on the House floor
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that essentially made all Democrats praise him and honor his
legacy despite some of the pretty pain it's that.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
He said over the years.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Also, we are taking a look at John Stewart slamming
the cancellation of Jimmy Kimmel by ABC after pressure from
the federal government, and exciting new campaign for Wisconsin governor
by the social legislator Francesca Hong, and new data showing
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how Donald Trump is bleeding Latino support. Those are all
to come for you on today's show. It's gonna be
a very very exciting one. We will, of course, as
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way to view the show. With that being said, let's
get into it. Very interesting new report in Axios that
caught my eye about potential future for the Democratic Party.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Take a look at this.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Aoc is twenty twenty eight decision run for president or Senate.
Her team apparently is really trying to get her to
do both, and that is a really exciting situation here.
Let's take a look at the details here from Axios's
Alex Thompson, who's are generally pretty tapped in reporter. Obviously,
the two options she is facing is a Senate race
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between Schumer and Okazio. Cortez a real true generational clash
between the Democratic parties leading traditionalists, Acxios says against its
star insurgent progressive this year, though, as it talks about,
the AOC really has kind of been doing an effort
to expand her name, not just in New York State,
but across the country in general. She was upstate in Plattsburgh,
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which is one of the more Republican parts of the state,
a little bit further from New York City, where she said, Plattsburgh,
we are here because every town, every city, every neighborhood
in the state matters, every corner matters. No one deserves
to be ignored. So you know, she's she's making some
winks and nods towards a true full political effort throughout
New York State, which would be obviously required to win
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the Senate. And I think that's something.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
She could absolutely do.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
By the way, I mean, have you seen Chuck Chuomer
talk or do anything political. I mean you probably even haven't,
but if you do, it's not anything inspiring, you know,
especially compared to what AOC is doing, because not only
is she doing this stuff in New York, but you know,
she's getting chants in AOC AOC, but she's also getting
a lot of positive response all throughout the nation and
particularly in red states like Omaha, Nebraska and I get
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the heart of Texas. You know, even in places I
think they didn't win in Montana, you know where they
got a rapturous reception and Idaho, like all these very
red places are getting really interested in fighting the oligarchy,
Andess is fighting the oligarchy tour the AOC and bernieam
doing since the start of the Trump administration. You know,
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some close allies to Okazio Ortez believe that even if
she doesn't think she can win, she may want to
run for the White House to ensure the Democratic Party's
progressive wing is represented in the primary. Justice Sanders did
in twenty sixteen against Hillary Clinton. So Okazi Grotez has
had one of the fastest rises in American politics. Obviously
supporting Medicare for All ICE, Green New Deal abolishing ICE
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is going to be really coming back, I think, in
to favor with the Democratic Party base after the shit
show that we have seen from the Donald Trump administration.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Fair enough on.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
That, she's also got a lot of big, big effort
she's put in to expand her email list. She's got
a lot of grassroots fundraising on top of the insane
amatic grassroots fundraising she's always been able to pull in.
She's also gotten a lot of follower growth on TikTok
and blues Guy x, Facebook, all of those platforms, and
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she also has a lot more platforms, by the way,
a lot more followers than Chuck Schumer does. But this
is also an interesting quote in terms of the presidency.
Ari Robin Hoft, the longtime Sanders aid, told Axios she
has a supporter base that in many ways has a
large potential with than Bernie's. She has been in the
glare of the spotlight from day one and has the
national campaigning experience a lot of other potential candidates are
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now trying to get. And I think that's a really
important point, because she does have that kind of recognition
and that twenty twenty eight experience, and I absolutely think
she could do well in both races. I definitely think,
you know, the easier race for her is going to
be the Senate because Chuck Schumer would really be a
Mom Donny Puomo type situation of just everything week olds
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the past the Democratic Party that's what she could portray
Chuck Schumer as representing someone's not gonna bring change more
of the same. We need something to shake up, we
need something different than status quo. We need some just
not afraid to bring the real change. Actually, he's been
supporting the policy position from day one. I think, you know,
AOC could really make that case crystal clear in a
much safer political environment, a deep blue state like New York.
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You know, no way that seed's gonna go to a Republican.
She can make that environment against Chuck Schumer much more
easy than she could against the entire national progressive, entire
Democratic base in a Democratic primary. But I do think
she could do incredibly well in the Democratic primary because
people are so pissed off about the Democratic establishment. In
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twenty twenty, it was kind of tough for Bernie because
the pressure was so strong. We need to beat Trump,
we need to be Trump.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
You know, people have seen that we need to beat Trump.
Guy doesn't beat Trump, you know, beat Trump once, but
Joe Biden's actions set the stage for Donald Trump to
come back again in a really big way. So that
lost to Democratic Party a lot of credibility. But this
is the thing Throughout that time, AOC was very conciliatory
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to Joe Biden, very consider the Democratic Party establishment, and
was really unable to call him out on the fact
that a he was too old and b. You know,
she's gotten a lot better, but she has not been
leading in terms of calling especially Joe Biden out for
supporting a genocide in Gaza. So you know, she called
it a genocide a lot sooner than a lot of
other people did. But that those two things show political
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instincts that aren't the sharpest, mainly because she is afraid
to really challenge the Democratic Party when it counts and
when it's tough, and I think she's gonna need to
do that to be successful, because she is the best
case to be an outsider candidate, and because the outsider
is gonna have a lot more credibility than anybody else
given the state of how the Democratic Party has run
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itself over the last four years. But also because you know,
whoever else is going to be in that race, Gavin Newsom, JB. Pritzker,
Gretcha Whitmer, people to Jee whoever, they are going to
have much better bridges, much better support with the Democratic
Party establishment than you ever will so to try and
rely in those that you built over these.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Last two three years.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
By kind of cowtowing a little bit to Nancy Pelosi,
to Joe Biden, to all those people.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
You know, it's not going to come.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
And play very well. If there's a Gavin Newsom in
the race they can support, You're going to have to
make yourself uncomfortable. If you're AOC, she may not be
too comfortable doing that, and I think it could hurt her,
But if she's able to push through that, she'll be
a very strong candidate. Indeed, because people are pissed off,
people want the fight. They want fighters, period, and this
is another great example of that. This is another article
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from Axios. Senate Democrats locked in in the twenty twenty
six proxy war. This is the fight for the future
Democratic Party is really going all across the country. Senate
Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and DSCC chair in the charge
of the Senate Campaigns for Democrats, Christian Jailbrand, they have
their preferred candidates in places like Michigan, Maine, and Iowa,
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but Bernie Sanders and AOC are supporting completely different people
in Iowa. And you're talking about Iowa they're supporting marine
veteran mechanic Nathan Sage. They got military veteran Graham Platter
we've talked about in Maine and former public health official
Abdul Sayad in Michigan. While they're all running against you know,
look up, by the way, look up Hailey Stevens, and
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look up Abdulla el Sayad, and think about who you
would vote for, just on a short clip, no matter
where your ideologist, think about who is the charisma to
actually appeal to people, and you can see who is
worth supporting. By the way, Hailey Stevens, this is the
Chuck Schumer endorse candidate, huge supporter, are hugely supported by
a PAK. They're Any serious candidate, from school board president
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to president of the United States has got to address
the massive levels of income and wealth inequality we are seeing.
Sanders told Axios and this is a quote. This brings
the exactly right energy. When they go low, we don't
go high. Olsayah told a cheering crowd of wealthy two
thousand people last month during Sanders Fighting Holigarchy rally in Kalamazoom, Michigan.
We take them to the mud and we choke them
out so that is exactly what but the attitude, the
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energy the Democrats are looking for right now in their
politicians because this is we're just taking insult after insult
from the Trump ministration, from billionaires, from businesses who are
getting away with whatever they want. It is time for
somebody who steps up and says enough. And that is
something that they are really really doing there. And Malory
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more All's running percenta by the way, and Michigan is
saying that she is not going to support structuremer like
people see the writing on the wall, and whether it's AOC,
whether it's Bernie, whether it's any of the people that
they're supporting in the Senate races, you know, it is
very clear that people want a fighter. And this is
another This is another really kind of shocking example of this.
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And this is kat Abu Ghazala, who is a former
media matters person running in the same style of a campaign.
This is her being completely brutalized by ice in in.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Chicago.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
She's running in Chicago's he completely pushed to the ground
by this masked hooon, just dragged and pushed to the
ground in a really awful, awful situation. So it just
all this just sums up the energy. People are pissed,
They're not gonna take it anymore, and they want fighters.
And if AOC and if everyone else that she's supporting,
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can seize that energy and take advantage of the rage
that people are feeling rightfully so at the insults that
they get from big business and the Republicans who are
dominating us every single day, I think whoever does that
will have a really good chance at making some real
electoral damage in November. The federally enforced mourning of Charlie
Kirk continue today at the House floor, where House Republicans
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put forward a resolution that essentially said, if you don't
like everything that Charlie Kirk stood for, if you're not
ready to honor his life and legacy, you know whatever
that means, you are essentially in support of what happened
to your in support of political violence. Was essentially a
poison pill that forced Democrats to endorse everything that he
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stood for or look like they were supporting political violence. Luckily,
AOC wasn't having it.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Today, the Republican House majority brought to the floor a
resolution honoring quote honoring the life and legacy of Charlie Kirk,
Charlie Kirk's assassination was a horrific and vile attack and
incident of political violence, and condemning the depravity of Kirk's
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brutal murder is a straightforward matter, one that is especially
important to help stabilize an increasingly unsafe and volatile political
environment where everyday people feel more at risk. We can
deeply disagree and come together as a country to denounce
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the horror of this killing, and it is not a
license for the abuse of power and whitewashing of American history.
Today's resolution only underscores the Majority's recklessness by choosing to
author this condemnation and honoring on a purely partisan basis,
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instead of uniting Congress in this tragedy with one of
the many bipartisan options to condemn political violence and Kirk's murder,
as we did with the late Melissa Hortman. Instead, the
Majority proceeded with a resolution that brings great pain to
the millions of Americans who endured segregation, Jim Crow, and
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the legacy of bigotry. Today, we should be clear about
who Charlie Kirk was. A man who believed that the
Civil Rights Act that granted black Americans the.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Right to vote was a mistake.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Who, after the violent attack on Paul Pelosi, claimed that
quote some amazing patriot unquote should bail out his brutal assailant.
And it's crazy Jews of controlling quote not just the colleges,
it's the nonprofits, it's the movies, it's Hollywood, it's all
of it. His rhetoric and beliefs were ignorant.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
But yeah, but he was a great friend to Israel.
That's what you don't understand. He was a really great
friend to Israel.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Educated and sought to disenfranchise millions of Americans far from
the working quote working tirelessly to promote unity unquote asserted
by the majority in this resolution.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, it's like, how can you vote for that?
Speaker 1 (14:58):
It's really just ridiculous stuff that completely blies this whole
manufactured image that we're seeing of Charlie Kirk's, this do
gooder who just wanted to bring people together, who maybe
he was a little bit conservative, but he never wanted
to really shove down anyone's throat. I mean, this guy
he said that it was a mistake for the Civil
Rights Act to be passed. You know, I guess the
Voting Rights Act to be passed. Like, think about how
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crazy you have to be and how outside of the
scope of the average American person you have to be
to say something like that publicly, say, you know, Paul Pelosi,
they should go bail out the guy who beat up
Paul Pelosi by the way, looking for Nancy Pelosi. You know,
imagine what you know, Republicans would have said had a
Democrat said anything like that, like they should go bail
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out you know, Tyler Robinson, or they should go bail
out whatever, you know, other victim left of right wing,
victim of political violence, whoever did that, they should go
bail them out. Like there's a completely completely insane thing
for the republic It's just another insult to the half
of the country that disagrees with them. It's just we
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are in control. We have the federal government. One of
our guys got hurt, and we have the power. So
you're going to have to really show, you know, gonna
essentially bow down to us and show that you're sorry,
to show that you're you know, scraping at our feet
to apologize for this guy. It's just like, how much
more of this do we have to take? You know,
do we have to be like, you know, Charlie Kirk
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Martin Luther King, no difference between the two. They're both
really important civil rights leaders, you know, and I'm a liberal,
but I just really genuinely believe that is that what's
gonna save me from getting on the wrong side of
the federal government's enforced warning of this guy. It's just
like it is so transparent, and it's what.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
It really is.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
It's not about this deep heartfelt sorrow about the loss
of Charlie Kirk. I'm sure for some people, you know,
they're pretty broken up about it, like understandably so. But
what they are clearly doing, and this is what Jimmy
Kimmel was saying to this monologue, they are using every
scrap of power they can, They're using every scrap of
good will they can really to seize every scrap of
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power they can by saying, our guy got hurt, this
is an attack against us. We need to use this
moment to use this anger at the left wing to
limit their power in political society as much as humanly possible.
And whether it's we stop them from condemning some of
the things that they would normally condemn that Charlie Kirk said,
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for whether it's we take off a anti Trump voice
on the air, off the air because of a kind
of benign comment that he said about Charlie Kirk. We
are going to push the envelope on this, whether we
designate ANTIFA as a terrorist organization. We have this power
and we're going to use the death of our you know,
her great close friend to do this, or we're gonna
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seize this power to gain more right and control over
the political landscape and especially political culture in general. Make
it so that people are scared to come out and
say things like this. And this is why it's so
important to have somebody like AOC coming out and doing this,
because it gives people out of permission to say, hang on,
I know this is bullshit. You know this is bullshit.
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You know this is bullshit. Let's stand up against this.
Let's say that we are not fans of political violence,
but we're not fans of what Charlley Cooks stood for
in life either.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
It is equally important that Congress does unite to reject
the government's attempt to weaponize this moment into an all
out assault on free speech across the country, all in
the name of Charlie Kirk. President Trump and the FCC
are now cynically threatening to shut down ABC and any
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outlets who give airtime to the administration's political critics. This
is a disgusting attack on the American people and the
very First Amendment rights that define us as a country.
It is also the ABC Corporation's responsibility to refuse to
embolden and participate in this corruption and escalation of censorship.
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We continue to pray for mister Kirk's family and loved
ones in the wake of this terrible act. I am
thinking especially of his children and his wife, whose grief
cannot be measured. And with that, I go back to
the gentleman.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yeah, and there you have it there from AOC And
I think what she is doing that is going to
position this herself well for you know, broader parts of
the country that we'll talk about in a little bit
later on, is that she is keeping it classy but
keeping it real. You know, she's not saying this guy
he was a just real asshole. You know, he was
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saying this person said things that cause a lot of
pain to a lot of people. It's irresponsible for our
government to force this down. People's throat to memorialize this
guy who said things that really hurt people. It's an
attack on free speech. You know, I'm worried about what's
happening with with Kimmel and with A and just the
broader consequences for this.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
But also, you know, we can't lose our soulsness. We
have to condemn this.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
We have to think of Kirkhan and his or kirk
family and his wife, who are going through incredibly tough
times at the moment. You know, it was something that
most Americans, fifty sixty percent of Americans can say, Hey,
maybe I don't agree with every single part of this,
but it seems much more.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Reasonable.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
It seems much more normal than what the Republicans are
trying to push, which is you must feel bad for
this guy. You must mourn this guy, even if you
disagreed with him. You have to, you know, respect every
single part of his life and legacy. You can never
criticize it. Otherwise you're promoting political violence like that. That
is just something that not many people drive with like
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they are not incompatibility with the fact that this is
being pushed down their throats. And for AOC to just
be the voice of those people while still keeping it
classy and saying we don't have to do this, but
we're also not going to contribute to the problem that
Republicans are contributing with the attacks on free speech. Like
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I think that is going to really gain a lot
of support. That's going to gain a lot of approval
from people who are uncomfortable with this really authoritarian direction
that we are seeing Trump try and take this country in.
After the murder of Charlie Kirk, so important moment for AOC,
and you can see it here within the party as well.
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This is from the votally of this resolution against praising
Charlie Kirk. The fifty eight Dems. Only fifty eight Dems,
by the way, voting to not praise this guy, Progressives
those are vulnerable in the primary, and Black Democrats. So
this is really a stand that not everybody is taking.
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It's a stand for a bunch of people who are
feeling very very cold right now, they're feeling very nervous,
who say, I don't want to praise this guy. I
don't want to be forced to endorse everything that he
stands for. I don't want to say that he I
thought he was a good person, but I also don't
want to support political violence and that direction, you know,
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and by the way, Kirk has clearly supported a political
violence in the past, so it's adds a whole other
layer of hypocrisy to that. But that direction of essentially
standing up for Americans to freely believe and say what
they want to believe, I think is going to be
something that wins broad support. Even if the climate seems
a little tough right now, it is still really a
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pretty crazy time in American politics. As we just had
probably the most insane attack on the First Amendment. As
you know, Jimmy Kimmel, who essentially makes bad jokes about
the president Let's be honest, they're not insanely good about
President Trump on late night TV every night on ABC,
was essentially pulled off the air under threat from the
federal government. It's really kind of an insane situation. But
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you know, luckily we have a slightly more talented comedian
who's still on the air to actually speak some truth
and actually do it in a kind of a funny
way about this absolutely insane situation. John Stewart was back
on the air. He did a kind of an emergency
show last night in this really crazy time and reacted
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in a pretty funny way. He revamped the Daily Show
to become a little bit more government compliant. Ahead of
his opening monologue.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
From Comedy Central, it's the all new government approved Daily Show.
You are patriotically opedia toast John Stewart.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
But my name is my name is John Stewart, and
welcome to the Daily Show. On I'm going to guess Monday.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I don't know. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
So he goes into it and it really almost becomes
a kind of col barupoor where he's kind of like
ironically praising the government, but it really does kind of
call attention to the absane absurdity of sane absurdity, insane
absurdity of what is going on here, and just really
how important it is to, even if you disagree with them,
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have people who are making fun of the government actually
be on TV, and how important that is as a
just basic American bedrock principle, and that the best, most stable, strong,
stable geniuses, you know, just the thought, but they probably
should be able to survive some satire and some jokes
on this. So here's a little bit more of Stuart
talking about Trump's trip to England in a by the way.
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I love the gold just exposed, just exposing the tacky
nature of everything Trump and just the really just crap
all laying behind it.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Now, the visit d England couldn't have gone better for
our president. Finally a country affording our great leader the
respect and deference that any son God would.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
We saw the dismissal of a very well known chat
show host in America last night. Mister Kimmel is pre
speech more under attack in Britain or America.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
By the way, I also love the way, the pointed
way that the America or the Brits asked questions. It's
just like, are you really in complete hypocrits, sir? Or
is it really Britain who's at faults? You know, like
it's it's kind of a kind of a joke of
the situation, but you know, you can you can picture
the meltdown that is that is coming up from Trump.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Here. Let's let's see a little more of Stuart first Amendment.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Let me tell you how it works. There's something called
a talent ometer, is a completely scientific instrument that is
kept on the president's desk and it tells the president
when a performer's TQ talent quotion, measured mostly by niceness
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to the president, goes below a certain level, at which
point the FCC must be notified to threaten the acquisition
prospects for billion dollar mergers of network affiliates. These affiliates
are then asked to give ultimatums to the even larger
mega corporation that controls the flow of state of proof content,
or the FCZ can just threaten those licenses directly. It's
basic science.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
Read your count patotion, read that.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Look, there are certain rules of free speech that we
must all abide by, but in case anyone needs a refresher,
we're going to go over the rules again.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
He does not have a right to have a television
show where he lies his ass off to the American arrival.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
There are repercussions to spreading live.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Just like you.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
You can already tell the punchline that's coming out of
these people. And I feel like if we can kind
of loop this into just general Charlie Kirk post Charlie
Kirk murder coverage like which I think we can, and we'll,
you know, have other segments on today's show about this.
But it's just like how much of a mockery are
these people making of us? Right, Like, look at this
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stuff from the from the right wing, and these these
high and mighty pundits who are suddenly so concerned and
so just absolutely pissed off about the awful things that
are being said and the lies and the seats that's
being put out on mainstream media. You know, we would
never lie, We would never do anything but tell the
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complete truth to the American people. It's just like, who
do you think we are? Like we were also alive
for the last four years, in the last eight years,
you know, like we know you don't take any of
this stuff seriously. You never pretended to take any of.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
This stuff seriously.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
So we you know, you may be able to say, oh,
the left wing where there were hypocrites, they you got
to try to cancel culture us. Now we're going to
cancel culture you. But don't expect us to sit there
and take it, because you didn't sit there and take it.
And we didn't use the federal government to cancel anyone.
No one on the left use it. You know, I
hate aligning myself with all these people, these democrats, who
I mean, I disagree with a lot of these cancer
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culture stuff, but it's making me side more with the
liberals I ever would have wanted to because of the
fact that this is just such clear, grand standing bullshit.
It's just like, no one thinks Scott Jennings is really
deeply or whoever that lady was, is really deeply concerned
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about the lives are being spread on mainstream media. It's
Trump tells blatantly, offensively obvious lives on a daily basis,
and nobody cares about them. It's just like you there
there are no consequences for spreading lives there, there is
none of that stuff, you know. It's it's completely bs
And by the way, you know, there are protections to
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say things that aren't true.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
It's called the First Amendment.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
You are allowed to say things that are bad or
false and not face any punishment for them. It's just
it's the real especially by the way, not face punishment
from the federal government you are. That is not something
that you That is directly what the First Amendment is against.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
It is saying, you.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Know, Congress shall not come in and regulate people's religion,
the freedom of the press, people's ability to assemble. They
should be allowed to petition the government. I think there's
probably you know one more freedom, freedom of assembly I
think is another one there as well, but it is
it is a completely just offensive situation. See these people
(29:45):
who are just like you know, there's real repercauctions.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
For this stuff.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
You know, again, you may be knowing, you know, you're
kind of being too cute by half here, but don't
expect us to sit there and take you know. I
think Steward is a great way of kind of speaking
for how a lot of liberals are feeling right now exactly.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
And even though two months ago, our president, because of
his grand ability to see the future, somehow knew that
Kimball would be next, as he explicitly.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Said, that's another good point.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
Make things up on television. People cannot just go on
television and mislead viewers with made up crap.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Millions if illegal aliens that borisar Harris brought into the
country will be voting.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
The bottom line is this, there is massive voter fraud.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Global warming as a host.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
Crime crime is in an all time high right now, fifty.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Million on condoms and gaza.
Speaker 8 (30:43):
They're taking people's pets and killing them and eating them.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
On January sixth, two years ago, the overwhelming majority were peaceful,
they were orderly and meet.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
These were not insurrectionists. They were sightseers.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
Oh oh, your lordship, I do not know whence these
peasants come. That last roll of clips all.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
True, especially that last one about sight sayers, because technically
anything you see is a sight.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Yeah, it's just like again, this is the bottom line.
I think the way that like so many liberals are
just beginning to feel it's just like enough, you know,
like just stop giving us this BS. We are not
going to be taking this anymore. It's like this idea
is like, we don't lie. We just care about real, honest,
respectful debate. Like nobody is buying that stuff. It's just offensive.
(31:56):
In the number one way you are going to lose
political power and you're gonna lose popular legitimacy is this
authoritarian push and it's also trying to stuff conservative ideology
down the face of people who don't want it. And people,
even if people are ambivalent on Charlie Kirk, they're gonna
(32:16):
see you, you know, average conservative pundit or politician or
whatever pushing this stuff so aggressively that they're gonna get
negatively polarized. Be like yeah, I'm against him being shot
in broad daylight. That's an awful situation. But no democrat
i've seen is celebrating this. But you're just kicking people
off the air. People barely said anything bad about this.
(32:37):
You're you know, you're also by the way, lying about it,
saying that, oh, we would never, you know, do anything
like this. We always tell the truth. We're always never
you know offensive, you know, we never tell you know,
a joke in bad taste. We never just straight up
make something completely up. You know, people see through this,
you know, it is a clear attempt to expand political control,
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expand Donald Trump's control over the media landscape. And it
comes a point that people really are not going to
fall for it, especially where you know, people are gonna
first of all, see what's happening, but especially when you
tell them that, oh, this is a good thing. This
is you know, we're upholding standards and truth and we're
(33:21):
promoting you know, nonviolence or whatever crap that the right
wing is going to try and feed down to our throats.
And by the way, don't you don't you get on
the wrong side of this censorship brigade, or we're coming
for you next like that is something that is going
to not go very far at all with the American people,
and just the same way, by the way, the cancer
(33:42):
culture didn't and we will see the effects of it,
and we'll see how far they can get with this push.
I have a very dark feeling in the coming weeks
and months. There's a new focus group about showing how
Donald Trump is absolutely bleeding support with Latino voters. It's
pretty interesting. But before the conservatives get to triggered, there
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is a little catch for you guys. Some of you
guys may like so stick to the end for that.
But here's the headline in the Bullwork, and a little
bit of something here about the Bulwark is that they
are kind of a never Trump publication made up of
Republicans who left the party when Trump came to power
and are generally kind of moved more to the left
(34:24):
wing side of things to resist Trump from a kind
of principled conservative perspective. That's the kind of you know,
bias they're bringing to this. But they did speak to
seven Latino voters who had previously voted for Trump throughout
you know, swing states, Red states, Blue states. They got
seven of them in a room, spoke to them about
why now they say they are regretting their votes. Let's
(34:47):
get into some quotes from this First. We have this
here from Kimberly, who is from Virginia. She was asked
what direction the country is going in. She says, I
think it is negative grocery prices. We have the tariffs,
we have immigration going on, and also the National Guard
using national Guard instead of police to fight crime. Here's
(35:09):
another one from Candy from Colorado. She says, I think
a lot of people are a lot more hateful. They
feel that they can be a lot more open about
it because they see it everywhere so much so that
no one is really trying to be nice and get
long and respect differences, said another participant, Candy from Colorado.
They think it's okay to pass their judgments and stereotypes
willie nilly because no one does anything about it, because
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they see people in control not doing anything about it
and really doing it themselves. And you may be like, oh,
come on, you know this is Trump. We're talking about
it here. What do you think it's gonna spread peace
and love and joy? Didn't you see that before the election. Well,
the thing is that if you're saying that you're likely
a political dirictor like you follow politics way more than
(35:52):
the average person, and the people who, you know, Latino
voters included, are overwhelmed. The people who really powered Trump
to vict The reason why he won the popular vote
and did so well in the twenty twenty four election
relative to pass Republican performances, including his own in twenty sixteen,
was because he really got a lot of support from
photo to fall politics less who are more likely to
(36:15):
not have a college degree, make under you know, seventy
five thousand dollars a year, and by the way, less
likely to be white than people who really really follow
politics a lot. You know, they thought coming in that
Trump was going to as crazy as it sounds for
us who are you know, political nerds. You know, they
thought he was going to come in restore order, you know,
(36:35):
after what has been a pretty damaging presidency economically, and
you know, you got some dementia patient president out there,
Joe Biden. You know, that's the stuff that was breaking
through to them at the time. Trump said I'm going
to come in, I'm going to stabilize things. We also
got a lot of immigrants coming across the border that's
going to be a destabilizing impact. You got inflation, You
(36:55):
got to a president who can barely finish the sentence,
I'm going to be the one who's going to who
essentially bring a sense of normalcy and just calm to
the American political system. And instead what he's got, you know,
you see here in this quote from Kimberly is the
kind of the more substive things. You have grocery prices
(37:16):
going out of control, you have tariffs, you have immigration
going on, and also the National Gardens, said the police.
But they also see from Kimberly the things that are
also indicative of a broader chaotic situation, which is you
see are sorry from Candy in Colorado, is that those
people are just becoming more hateful. And the people who
are going to experience that first, obviously are going to
be Latinos who are being demonized as part of this
(37:39):
general Trump effort, which you know, many Latinos did not expect.
They think, oh, they're going to go after the criminals.
They're going to go after the immigrants who are being disruptive,
not the good immigrants who are trying to contribute to
this country. And you can see that just general feeling
of chaos with the immigration stuff really being at the
root of it, is going to come up again and
again in a lot of these responses. One participant, Read
(38:01):
from Nevada, said that he initially viewed Trump's moves on
immigration positively, but then he was confronted with human suffering
the administration was causing. Then you see the other flip
side where you see families being ripped apart, he said.
I didn't think that it was going to be that
dramatic where it's going to be hurtful in that sense,
So that kind of changed her mood from Okay, this
country is getting better on the immigration part. The borders
(38:23):
are getting more strict, but at what cost. Beth from
Jersey also said she initially supported a tougher stance on immigration.
We do need safety, we do need security. We owe
it to our country, she said, but she quickly added
that she lost a lot of confidence in the administration
on the issue due to the lack of a human
approach to deportations. She taught Trump's haphazard and heavy handed
execution on the issue to his and Elon Musk's arbitrary
(38:46):
firing of hundreds of thousands of federal workers as part
of the DOJEA initiative, saying it's bullying. At another level,
she's saying, just I want law and order, I want people.
I want candidates who follow the rules, and that kind
of goes to a sense of you know, we heard
Trump saying this hundreds of hundreds of times on a
campaign show. I'm going to be the law and order candidate.
I'm going to be the one who's going to restore stability.
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I'm going to make America great again. Essentially, that was
what he was trying to do, and it wasn't this
kind of radical blow everything up campaign. What happened was
once he won that big victory, as it can very
very frequently happen, a lot of very hardcore audiologus in
his campaign, which are more radicalized than ever that kind
of sect, you know, the you know, the people who
(39:29):
were really the activist class of the Republican Party were like,
oh my god, we can do everything we want now
we have this big mandate, and you know, they really
misinterpreted the mandate. And the first people you're seeing backlaw
backlash beginning to brew among are going to be the
people kind of on the edges of the coalition, which
would be Latino voters, which would be young voters. And
(39:50):
I bet you could see a very similar situation if
you go to you know, the frat houses of America
right now and you start asking people, you know, what
do you think about Trump now compared to what you
did out of him, you know, a year ago or so,
And I bet it's gonna be a lot of you know, hey,
what happened in the Epstein flows bro You know, like
that that stuff does take effect because it was a
(40:12):
message that was fundamentally different than what was promised on
the campaign trail one year ago. Paulo, an eighteen year
old from Florida, agreed with the sentiment, lea, see, he's
super extremist, ignoring history. He's taken down government history websites.
He's changing the Department of Defense to the Department of War.
It seems that power has taken control of his mind
(40:33):
where he thinks he can change the constitution and control
the entire country by himself. And again, this is just
not what people signed up for. It's like people when
they started out, they wanted, you know, some the bad
immigrants to go away, which is always you know, kind
of a suspect thing from the start. But they wanted
us to not have a demensia patient as president, and
(40:55):
they wanted a president who stays they or at least
you know, they could have gotten the economy in check.
And they didn't want somebody who's going to be doing
all these radical changes in the government. They definitely did
not want someone who's going to be carrying out deportations.
Especially the Tino voters did not want someone who's going
to be carrying out deportations in such an aggressive, disruptive,
(41:15):
and really racist way. And you can see this here
with the next quote, this is Janelle from California said
immigrations who used for not affecting her life with her
kids with a child's sending letters home saying they won't
let Ice come in and take her kids. A week ago,
she said someone in her neighborhood was taken by ice.
You see it more and more. It's in our neighborhood.
(41:37):
They have announcements Ice is here. She said, it's just
a big thing. My family isn't worried about it, but kids,
my kids go to school here and they have friends
that are worried about it. And for kids, that's not
okay to be worried that they're going to come home
and not have their parents home. So it's just a
thing that was not part, as I said, of the
original deal. It wasn't what people thought when they were
(41:59):
going in, uh that the Trump administration the house we
can handle thing. I think going after the people bringing drugs,
the people doing murders, the people committing raves like that
was you know, it wasn't gonna be the guy who was,
you know, running a burrito shop. You know, not to
be put a stereotypical example here, but it wasn't gonna
be the guy running a burrito shop in the quarter
(42:20):
for twenty years, you know, who everyone loved in society.
Like that wasn't what was happening. And it really is
starting to create an image of chaos and an image
of instability that was never part of the original Trump
campaign promise. And you could see it here in the
polls too. This is another poll that they're setting from
almost wotantes, reinforcing the idea that Trump is bleeding Latino support.
(42:43):
You got a negative twenty three percent job off who
were rating negative twenty six percent rating specifically on the economy,
which I bet was a big reason why. You know,
it goes to that stability. It's like, we want to
get the economy in check, we want to get immigration
under control, and we want to get that demension patient
out of there.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Those are probably the three big reasons.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
It's why you see a lot of that low propensity
voters coming into support Donald Trump. And those are all gone.
Those are all gone, so pretty much destroyed. And the
economy is a big part of that. And it's kind
of an underrated part of why Trump was so successful
in the first place. Trump's approval rating also dropped ten
points from May. It was forty three percent May now
(43:22):
thirty three percent in September, with Latino voters.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
So not doing too well there.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
But here is the big catch, and it is kind
of an indictment, I would say on the bald work
that they put this at the very bottom. There is
an obvious opportunity for Democrats to capitalize on this discontent there, right,
but it's complicated by the challenges facing their own party.
While every single member of the focus group said they
regretted their vote, none said they would back Kamala Harrison
(43:50):
a hypothetical election rerun.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Instead.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
They all said they would support the third party candidate
or stay home. And I mean this should show you
it's not gonna be enough for the Democratic Party to
say Republican's bad, Republicans bad. You actually have to create
a policy platform that you can convince people that you
actually believe in and your candidates actually believe in, of
how you're going to actually make people's lives better on
(44:12):
the economy mostly, but really just making sure that their
lives are stable and that they can improve their own circumstances,
or you're going to lose again and again Latino voters,
even to the mass deportation candidate. So change is there,
but you really have to want it, because for the
Democrats and for the country.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
The stakes are just too high.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
It may feel like we are low on hope these days,
but I have a great news source of hope for you.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
We've talked on.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
This show about Zoramm Donnie's incredible rise, also Graham Plattner's
inspiring campaign for main Senate. Now I have a new
exciting left wing socialist candidacy today, Democratic state senator or
state representative in Wisconsin. She is running now for governor
and she's a member of the Socialist She is the
(45:01):
real deal. Her name is Francesca Hong. Check out her
launch video.
Speaker 8 (45:07):
It's so stressful to get by these days, and I
know a lot about stress. I work in restaurants. I
started in this kitchen fifteen years ago, and you might
recognize what's across the street, A lot of people that
tell again why it's so hard to get by right now.
Working hard doesn't mean you can always keep up. One
wrong step can lay you off flat. This is by design.
(45:31):
I'm state Representative Francesca Home. I'm a service worker, community organizer,
and a mom. I work for a living, always have
still do. Five years ago, my community sent me to
the capitol. The system is raped. I'm running for governor
to fix it. For years, we've been told that doing
better isn't possible. Well, let me tell you that's bullshit.
(45:55):
All we need to do is fight together. We can
fully fund our public schools and have universe childcare. We
can guarantee paid lead and have cheaper healthcare. We can
fix a rape system that puts oligarchs over workers and
small businesses. We can do better. Don't let anyone tell
(46:15):
you we can't do this. We can build a Wisconsin
where we share the table. I'm Francesca Home and I'm
running for governor because I know that together we make
better possible.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Yeah, so it's kind of I feel like it's kind
of a uplifting video there, Francesca Hong for governor and
a very kind of a positive one as well. And
I think, you know, it's got all the ingredients, Like, first,
you have some policies that are actually kind of connected
to the situation, that everyday situation that people are going through,
and they're actually listed in the video. It's not just
some random you know, just gesturing to the fact that
(46:55):
we could do a little better. Things aren't really that
good right now. The Mangro Republicans aren't doing so well.
Like if you see a centrist video, they're gonna be like,
you know, let's restore respectability, let's bring real change. But
then you know, of course there's no specifics. You know,
it's gonna be a left wing video when they actually
say things like cheaper healthcare, free childcare, like things are
actually to try and fight for in office because they
(47:16):
actually realize the situation that is at hand. But I
think another part of a message that is really really
important is that we can do better parts. We can
actually change the circumstances. And I think that's something that
was so powerful about zoramom Natis campaign, something that I
think Graham Plattner has been really trying to push, and
also something that you know, Bernie Sanders also in the
(47:38):
very beginning, was trying to push as well. It's like,
we can actually build a more positive world. We don't
have to do this kind of on a campaign of
hate and campaign of anger like Donald Trump did. We
could use our anger at the system and the way
things currently are to make things actually systematically improve. And
(47:59):
I feel like that is something that really does inspire
people in a much bigger way.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
But it's it's harder to do.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
It's harder to be credible on because people have been
promised so many things by so many politicians so often
that nowadays it's it's hard to get that credibility so
that people can actually trust you to bring that real change.
So you know, she's she does have a long history
of actually fighting in the state legislature for things she
(48:28):
helped end. I know tip Ways was a big thing.
But also another thing that I really like about her
is if you look at this, she was a leader
of anti Biden Protest Vote announced now that she's you know,
it says, this is the headline and political leader of
anti Biden Protest Vote announced this bid for Wisconsin governor.
So this was back and she's also you know, when
(48:48):
I say protest Vote, it means that she is very
pro Palestinian. She also gets that part as well, which
is very important and something you would expect, frankly from
any left wing legislator. So yeah, she's part of the
legislature's fledgling Social and Caucus, amplifying her working class background
as a chef and community organizer. In a campaign launch
video here in Politico, she says, service injury, folks are
(49:11):
built different. I want folks to be able to know
that in this state someone like me can not only
run for governor, but be governor. And I think that,
you know, it's actually it also is a positive thing.
It's just like there is such a kind of feeling
over time that politics is only for the mariage. Politics
only for people the right qualifications, the right education, and
that exists on both sides of the Democratic and Republican
(49:32):
You see very few people who are of these working
class backgrounds and that is also something that I think
lends her even a little bit more credibility to do
the things I was talking about before and actually promise that, hey,
things are gonna be different. I'm not going to be
same old, same old, which can be pretty tough to do.
But here's a pretty pretty important part. Thirty six year
old Hong, whose district includes heavily Democratic leading Madison, the
(49:53):
state capital at home to the state's largenty university, helpfully
the state's uninstructed push ahead of the state's presidential primer
last April, with some twenty five Democratic elected state and
local officials signing onto a pressure campaign attempting to sway
the Bid administration's plans on Israel. So she was actually
not only is she, you know, doing this things like childcare,
increasing wages for the working class, you know some of
(50:17):
the other policies that she had in there, you know,
ending the oligarchy, cheaper healthcare, things like that, actively planning
to fight on these domestic issues. But she also has
the moral judgment and the political instincts and just the
clarity to say that this on Israel all the way
back when was bad and that Biden should not have
been the Democratic Party nominee, not just because of Israel,
(50:37):
but because he was just purely unfit. And I think
that is also on top of the all of the
other things I mentioned, another key part of how she
boosts you know, the working last background, the focus on
real policy issues, this on calling out Biden, you know,
April twenty twenty four, when it was not popular to
do so. All these things serve to boost credibility towards
(50:58):
the fact that she will actually be a different type
of candidate. She's going to be somebody who is not
just going to get in there and kind of kowtow
to the same old Democratic leadership and way of doing things.
She is somebody who you know, and this could help
her win over some independence as well. She was the
one who was actually held her party to account, and
I don't think this is something she should be shy
of playing up and actually realized that the writing was
(51:21):
on the wall well before many other people did. She
actually understands the way things are going and what the
people in the Democratic Party base want to see. And
she actually, you know, she understood that when a lot
of other people, even Democratic Party in Wisconsin, were still
being incredibly dishonest and also could be a way of
how she differentiates herself with some of the other more
(51:42):
establishment candidates. You got the lieutenant governor in there, Milwaukee
County executive, so you got some pretty big, you know, high,
big name people. So you know, what were their positions
on Israel? What were their positions on Biden in April
twenty twenty four? Were they the ones saying that this
is not okay in any shape or form. You know,
Biden supporting a jinociety is also fundamentally too old to
be president, Like, we need to do something different. She
(52:04):
was saying that back in April twenty twenty four. You know,
she was proven vindicated and she should not be afraid
to hammer that home, especially again when it comes to
differentiating herself from more establishment candidates. And the effort was
a pretty successful thing. It garnered forty eight thousand votes,
man to eight point three percent of the vote. Was
seen as a shot across the vout and a harbinger
of the party's handling about Israel would present significant headwinds
(52:26):
for Democrats. And the reality the situation is now they
were right, and the people who were uncommitted, uninstructed, unaffiliated,
whatever they were right, they saw the writing on the
wall of how this would be for Israel, and you
saw Michigan voting for Trump in big numbers. You saw
(52:47):
the base turning staying at home in record numbers, not
just because of Israel, but because of the just general
dishonesty and immorality and just incompetence of the Biden administration effect.
They're pushing this old genociding, coolly supporter of a genocide
across the line. You know, that was something that was
viewed as so dis qualifying. And Francesca Hong and all
the other people who are pushing uncommitted you know, I
(53:09):
have to say myself included, were dead on the money
in seeing the political writing on the wall on this.
And I think, you know, people like Francesca Hong should
frankly step up and claim the reward because they get
what's going on here, they really do, and they we
see the future democratic part and better potic instincts. I
think than much, pretty much anyone, I would say that
(53:32):
Francesca Hong is going to be running against She's gonna
be vowing to take no corporate pack money instead of
aiming to build a campaign through crafts. Who's organizing an
aggressive social media campaign a lat zoron Mom Donnie, and
of course, as I said, she's going to be proudly
pro Palestine.
Speaker 2 (53:50):
So it is.
Speaker 1 (53:51):
You know, I'd like to filter in these stories whenever
we can. It could be a pretty depressing, tough world
out there. Uh, not a lot of signs of politicians
who are actively honest and focused on unapologetically bringing change
and standing up for the things that everyone knows and
sees to be right as a matter of common sense.
But we have one now, Francesca Hang. And I should
(54:13):
have said this before, but she is actually doing quite well.
She's got one hundred and fifteen thousand dollars she's raised
in the first thirty six hours. It's gonna be a
statewide campaign, so she's gonna need it a lot more
than that. But this is a very very good start,
and it's very very good to see somebody who is
actually looking to build a different type of politics, unapologetically
(54:37):
advocating for common sense populist left positions. It was very
good to see someone like her putting her hat in
the ring.
Speaker 2 (54:47):
All right, that's all we have for you this week.
Speaker 1 (54:50):
Thank you so much for listening. We hope you will
join us next week. We'll see you then. It seems
flash
Hello everyone, My name is Bench Walsh. Thank you so
much for joining us here today. We have a great
show for you. As always on the show, today we
are taking a look at a big new report suggesting
AOC is molling a potential presidential run. She's also considering
taking Chuck Schumer on in the Senate. Either way, it's
gonna be a big twenty twenty eight for her and
(00:32):
the Democratic Party will take a look at her campaign
and a bunch of other extending Democratic campaigns out there
that are percolating. Also, we're taking a look at AOC's
strong speech today taking on the revisionist history, surranding Charlie
Kirk and his legacy, particularly resolution on the House floor
(00:53):
that essentially made all Democrats praise him and honor his
legacy despite some of the pretty pain it's that.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
He said over the years.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Also, we are taking a look at John Stewart slamming
the cancellation of Jimmy Kimmel by ABC after pressure from
the federal government, and exciting new campaign for Wisconsin governor
by the social legislator Francesca Hong, and new data showing
(01:23):
how Donald Trump is bleeding Latino support. Those are all
to come for you on today's show. It's gonna be
a very very exciting one. We will, of course, as
you know, have all of our episode or clips or
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way to view the show. With that being said, let's
get into it. Very interesting new report in Axios that
caught my eye about potential future for the Democratic Party.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Take a look at this.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Aoc is twenty twenty eight decision run for president or Senate.
Her team apparently is really trying to get her to
do both, and that is a really exciting situation here.
Let's take a look at the details here from Axios's
Alex Thompson, who's are generally pretty tapped in reporter. Obviously,
the two options she is facing is a Senate race
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between Schumer and Okazio. Cortez a real true generational clash
between the Democratic parties leading traditionalists, Acxios says against its
star insurgent progressive this year, though, as it talks about,
the AOC really has kind of been doing an effort
to expand her name, not just in New York State,
but across the country in general. She was upstate in Plattsburgh,
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which is one of the more Republican parts of the state,
a little bit further from New York City, where she said, Plattsburgh,
we are here because every town, every city, every neighborhood
in the state matters, every corner matters. No one deserves
to be ignored. So you know, she's she's making some
winks and nods towards a true full political effort throughout
New York State, which would be obviously required to win
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the Senate. And I think that's something.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
She could absolutely do.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
By the way, I mean, have you seen Chuck Chuomer
talk or do anything political. I mean you probably even haven't,
but if you do, it's not anything inspiring, you know,
especially compared to what AOC is doing, because not only
is she doing this stuff in New York, but you know,
she's getting chants in AOC AOC, but she's also getting
a lot of positive response all throughout the nation and
particularly in red states like Omaha, Nebraska and I get
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the heart of Texas. You know, even in places I
think they didn't win in Montana, you know where they
got a rapturous reception and Idaho, like all these very
red places are getting really interested in fighting the oligarchy,
Andess is fighting the oligarchy tour the AOC and bernieam
doing since the start of the Trump administration. You know,
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some close allies to Okazio Ortez believe that even if
she doesn't think she can win, she may want to
run for the White House to ensure the Democratic Party's
progressive wing is represented in the primary. Justice Sanders did
in twenty sixteen against Hillary Clinton. So Okazi Grotez has
had one of the fastest rises in American politics. Obviously
supporting Medicare for All ICE, Green New Deal abolishing ICE
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is going to be really coming back, I think, in
to favor with the Democratic Party base after the shit
show that we have seen from the Donald Trump administration.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Fair enough on.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
That, she's also got a lot of big, big effort
she's put in to expand her email list. She's got
a lot of grassroots fundraising on top of the insane
amatic grassroots fundraising she's always been able to pull in.
She's also gotten a lot of follower growth on TikTok
and blues Guy x, Facebook, all of those platforms, and
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she also has a lot more platforms, by the way,
a lot more followers than Chuck Schumer does. But this
is also an interesting quote in terms of the presidency.
Ari Robin Hoft, the longtime Sanders aid, told Axios she
has a supporter base that in many ways has a
large potential with than Bernie's. She has been in the
glare of the spotlight from day one and has the
national campaigning experience a lot of other potential candidates are
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now trying to get. And I think that's a really
important point, because she does have that kind of recognition
and that twenty twenty eight experience, and I absolutely think
she could do well in both races. I definitely think,
you know, the easier race for her is going to
be the Senate because Chuck Schumer would really be a
Mom Donny Puomo type situation of just everything week olds
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the past the Democratic Party that's what she could portray
Chuck Schumer as representing someone's not gonna bring change more
of the same. We need something to shake up, we
need something different than status quo. We need some just
not afraid to bring the real change. Actually, he's been
supporting the policy position from day one. I think, you know,
AOC could really make that case crystal clear in a
much safer political environment, a deep blue state like New York.
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You know, no way that seed's gonna go to a Republican.
She can make that environment against Chuck Schumer much more
easy than she could against the entire national progressive, entire
Democratic base in a Democratic primary. But I do think
she could do incredibly well in the Democratic primary because
people are so pissed off about the Democratic establishment. In
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twenty twenty, it was kind of tough for Bernie because
the pressure was so strong. We need to beat Trump,
we need to be Trump.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
You know, people have seen that we need to beat Trump.
Guy doesn't beat Trump, you know, beat Trump once, but
Joe Biden's actions set the stage for Donald Trump to
come back again in a really big way. So that
lost to Democratic Party a lot of credibility. But this
is the thing Throughout that time, AOC was very conciliatory
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to Joe Biden, very consider the Democratic Party establishment, and
was really unable to call him out on the fact
that a he was too old and b. You know,
she's gotten a lot better, but she has not been
leading in terms of calling especially Joe Biden out for
supporting a genocide in Gaza. So you know, she called
it a genocide a lot sooner than a lot of
other people did. But that those two things show political
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instincts that aren't the sharpest, mainly because she is afraid
to really challenge the Democratic Party when it counts and
when it's tough, and I think she's gonna need to
do that to be successful, because she is the best
case to be an outsider candidate, and because the outsider
is gonna have a lot more credibility than anybody else
given the state of how the Democratic Party has run
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itself over the last four years. But also because you know,
whoever else is going to be in that race, Gavin Newsom, JB. Pritzker,
Gretcha Whitmer, people to Jee whoever, they are going to
have much better bridges, much better support with the Democratic
Party establishment than you ever will so to try and
rely in those that you built over these.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Last two three years.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
By kind of cowtowing a little bit to Nancy Pelosi,
to Joe Biden, to all those people.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
You know, it's not going to come.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
And play very well. If there's a Gavin Newsom in
the race they can support, You're going to have to
make yourself uncomfortable. If you're AOC, she may not be
too comfortable doing that, and I think it could hurt her,
But if she's able to push through that, she'll be
a very strong candidate. Indeed, because people are pissed off,
people want the fight. They want fighters, period, and this
is another great example of that. This is another article
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from Axios. Senate Democrats locked in in the twenty twenty
six proxy war. This is the fight for the future
Democratic Party is really going all across the country. Senate
Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and DSCC chair in the charge
of the Senate Campaigns for Democrats, Christian Jailbrand, they have
their preferred candidates in places like Michigan, Maine, and Iowa,
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but Bernie Sanders and AOC are supporting completely different people
in Iowa. And you're talking about Iowa they're supporting marine
veteran mechanic Nathan Sage. They got military veteran Graham Platter
we've talked about in Maine and former public health official
Abdul Sayad in Michigan. While they're all running against you know,
look up, by the way, look up Hailey Stevens, and
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look up Abdulla el Sayad, and think about who you
would vote for, just on a short clip, no matter
where your ideologist, think about who is the charisma to
actually appeal to people, and you can see who is
worth supporting. By the way, Hailey Stevens, this is the
Chuck Schumer endorse candidate, huge supporter, are hugely supported by
a PAK. They're Any serious candidate, from school board president
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to president of the United States has got to address
the massive levels of income and wealth inequality we are seeing.
Sanders told Axios and this is a quote. This brings
the exactly right energy. When they go low, we don't
go high. Olsayah told a cheering crowd of wealthy two
thousand people last month during Sanders Fighting Holigarchy rally in Kalamazoom, Michigan.
We take them to the mud and we choke them
out so that is exactly what but the attitude, the
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energy the Democrats are looking for right now in their
politicians because this is we're just taking insult after insult
from the Trump ministration, from billionaires, from businesses who are
getting away with whatever they want. It is time for
somebody who steps up and says enough. And that is
something that they are really really doing there. And Malory
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more All's running percenta by the way, and Michigan is
saying that she is not going to support structuremer like
people see the writing on the wall, and whether it's AOC,
whether it's Bernie, whether it's any of the people that
they're supporting in the Senate races, you know, it is
very clear that people want a fighter. And this is
another This is another really kind of shocking example of this.
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And this is kat Abu Ghazala, who is a former
media matters person running in the same style of a campaign.
This is her being completely brutalized by ice in in.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Chicago.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
She's running in Chicago's he completely pushed to the ground
by this masked hooon, just dragged and pushed to the
ground in a really awful, awful situation. So it just
all this just sums up the energy. People are pissed,
They're not gonna take it anymore, and they want fighters.
And if AOC and if everyone else that she's supporting,
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can seize that energy and take advantage of the rage
that people are feeling rightfully so at the insults that
they get from big business and the Republicans who are
dominating us every single day, I think whoever does that
will have a really good chance at making some real
electoral damage in November. The federally enforced mourning of Charlie
Kirk continue today at the House floor, where House Republicans
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put forward a resolution that essentially said, if you don't
like everything that Charlie Kirk stood for, if you're not
ready to honor his life and legacy, you know whatever
that means, you are essentially in support of what happened
to your in support of political violence. Was essentially a
poison pill that forced Democrats to endorse everything that he
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stood for or look like they were supporting political violence. Luckily,
AOC wasn't having it.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Today, the Republican House majority brought to the floor a
resolution honoring quote honoring the life and legacy of Charlie Kirk,
Charlie Kirk's assassination was a horrific and vile attack and
incident of political violence, and condemning the depravity of Kirk's
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brutal murder is a straightforward matter, one that is especially
important to help stabilize an increasingly unsafe and volatile political
environment where everyday people feel more at risk. We can
deeply disagree and come together as a country to denounce
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the horror of this killing, and it is not a
license for the abuse of power and whitewashing of American history.
Today's resolution only underscores the Majority's recklessness by choosing to
author this condemnation and honoring on a purely partisan basis,
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instead of uniting Congress in this tragedy with one of
the many bipartisan options to condemn political violence and Kirk's murder,
as we did with the late Melissa Hortman. Instead, the
Majority proceeded with a resolution that brings great pain to
the millions of Americans who endured segregation, Jim Crow, and
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the legacy of bigotry. Today, we should be clear about
who Charlie Kirk was. A man who believed that the
Civil Rights Act that granted black Americans the.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Right to vote was a mistake.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Who, after the violent attack on Paul Pelosi, claimed that
quote some amazing patriot unquote should bail out his brutal assailant.
And it's crazy Jews of controlling quote not just the colleges,
it's the nonprofits, it's the movies, it's Hollywood, it's all
of it. His rhetoric and beliefs were ignorant.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
But yeah, but he was a great friend to Israel.
That's what you don't understand. He was a really great
friend to Israel.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Educated and sought to disenfranchise millions of Americans far from
the working quote working tirelessly to promote unity unquote asserted
by the majority in this resolution.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, it's like, how can you vote for that?
Speaker 1 (14:58):
It's really just ridiculous stuff that completely blies this whole
manufactured image that we're seeing of Charlie Kirk's, this do
gooder who just wanted to bring people together, who maybe
he was a little bit conservative, but he never wanted
to really shove down anyone's throat. I mean, this guy
he said that it was a mistake for the Civil
Rights Act to be passed. You know, I guess the
Voting Rights Act to be passed. Like, think about how
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crazy you have to be and how outside of the
scope of the average American person you have to be
to say something like that publicly, say, you know, Paul Pelosi,
they should go bail out the guy who beat up
Paul Pelosi by the way, looking for Nancy Pelosi. You know,
imagine what you know, Republicans would have said had a
Democrat said anything like that, like they should go bail
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out you know, Tyler Robinson, or they should go bail
out whatever, you know, other victim left of right wing,
victim of political violence, whoever did that, they should go
bail them out. Like there's a completely completely insane thing
for the republic It's just another insult to the half
of the country that disagrees with them. It's just we
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are in control. We have the federal government. One of
our guys got hurt, and we have the power. So
you're going to have to really show, you know, gonna
essentially bow down to us and show that you're sorry,
to show that you're you know, scraping at our feet
to apologize for this guy. It's just like, how much
more of this do we have to take? You know,
do we have to be like, you know, Charlie Kirk
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Martin Luther King, no difference between the two. They're both
really important civil rights leaders, you know, and I'm a liberal,
but I just really genuinely believe that is that what's
gonna save me from getting on the wrong side of
the federal government's enforced warning of this guy. It's just
like it is so transparent, and it's what.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
It really is.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
It's not about this deep heartfelt sorrow about the loss
of Charlie Kirk. I'm sure for some people, you know,
they're pretty broken up about it, like understandably so. But
what they are clearly doing, and this is what Jimmy
Kimmel was saying to this monologue, they are using every
scrap of power they can, They're using every scrap of
good will they can really to seize every scrap of
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power they can by saying, our guy got hurt, this
is an attack against us. We need to use this
moment to use this anger at the left wing to
limit their power in political society as much as humanly possible.
And whether it's we stop them from condemning some of
the things that they would normally condemn that Charlie Kirk said,
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for whether it's we take off a anti Trump voice
on the air, off the air because of a kind
of benign comment that he said about Charlie Kirk. We
are going to push the envelope on this, whether we
designate ANTIFA as a terrorist organization. We have this power
and we're going to use the death of our you know,
her great close friend to do this, or we're gonna
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seize this power to gain more right and control over
the political landscape and especially political culture in general. Make
it so that people are scared to come out and
say things like this. And this is why it's so
important to have somebody like AOC coming out and doing this,
because it gives people out of permission to say, hang on,
I know this is bullshit. You know this is bullshit.
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You know this is bullshit. Let's stand up against this.
Let's say that we are not fans of political violence,
but we're not fans of what Charlley Cooks stood for
in life either.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
It is equally important that Congress does unite to reject
the government's attempt to weaponize this moment into an all
out assault on free speech across the country, all in
the name of Charlie Kirk. President Trump and the FCC
are now cynically threatening to shut down ABC and any
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outlets who give airtime to the administration's political critics. This
is a disgusting attack on the American people and the
very First Amendment rights that define us as a country.
It is also the ABC Corporation's responsibility to refuse to
embolden and participate in this corruption and escalation of censorship.
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We continue to pray for mister Kirk's family and loved
ones in the wake of this terrible act. I am
thinking especially of his children and his wife, whose grief
cannot be measured. And with that, I go back to
the gentleman.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yeah, and there you have it there from AOC And
I think what she is doing that is going to
position this herself well for you know, broader parts of
the country that we'll talk about in a little bit
later on, is that she is keeping it classy but
keeping it real. You know, she's not saying this guy
he was a just real asshole. You know, he was
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saying this person said things that cause a lot of
pain to a lot of people. It's irresponsible for our
government to force this down. People's throat to memorialize this
guy who said things that really hurt people. It's an
attack on free speech. You know, I'm worried about what's
happening with with Kimmel and with A and just the
broader consequences for this.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
But also, you know, we can't lose our soulsness. We
have to condemn this.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
We have to think of Kirkhan and his or kirk
family and his wife, who are going through incredibly tough
times at the moment. You know, it was something that
most Americans, fifty sixty percent of Americans can say, Hey,
maybe I don't agree with every single part of this,
but it seems much more.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Reasonable.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
It seems much more normal than what the Republicans are
trying to push, which is you must feel bad for
this guy. You must mourn this guy, even if you
disagreed with him. You have to, you know, respect every
single part of his life and legacy. You can never
criticize it. Otherwise you're promoting political violence like that. That
is just something that not many people drive with like
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they are not incompatibility with the fact that this is
being pushed down their throats. And for AOC to just
be the voice of those people while still keeping it
classy and saying we don't have to do this, but
we're also not going to contribute to the problem that
Republicans are contributing with the attacks on free speech. Like
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I think that is going to really gain a lot
of support. That's going to gain a lot of approval
from people who are uncomfortable with this really authoritarian direction
that we are seeing Trump try and take this country in.
After the murder of Charlie Kirk, so important moment for AOC,
and you can see it here within the party as well.
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This is from the votally of this resolution against praising
Charlie Kirk. The fifty eight Dems. Only fifty eight Dems,
by the way, voting to not praise this guy, Progressives
those are vulnerable in the primary, and Black Democrats. So
this is really a stand that not everybody is taking.
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It's a stand for a bunch of people who are
feeling very very cold right now, they're feeling very nervous,
who say, I don't want to praise this guy. I
don't want to be forced to endorse everything that he
stands for. I don't want to say that he I
thought he was a good person, but I also don't
want to support political violence and that direction, you know,
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and by the way, Kirk has clearly supported a political
violence in the past, so it's adds a whole other
layer of hypocrisy to that. But that direction of essentially
standing up for Americans to freely believe and say what
they want to believe, I think is going to be
something that wins broad support. Even if the climate seems
a little tough right now, it is still really a
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pretty crazy time in American politics. As we just had
probably the most insane attack on the First Amendment. As
you know, Jimmy Kimmel, who essentially makes bad jokes about
the president Let's be honest, they're not insanely good about
President Trump on late night TV every night on ABC,
was essentially pulled off the air under threat from the
federal government. It's really kind of an insane situation. But
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you know, luckily we have a slightly more talented comedian
who's still on the air to actually speak some truth
and actually do it in a kind of a funny
way about this absolutely insane situation. John Stewart was back
on the air. He did a kind of an emergency
show last night in this really crazy time and reacted
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in a pretty funny way. He revamped the Daily Show
to become a little bit more government compliant. Ahead of
his opening monologue.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
From Comedy Central, it's the all new government approved Daily Show.
You are patriotically opedia toast John Stewart.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
But my name is my name is John Stewart, and
welcome to the Daily Show. On I'm going to guess Monday.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I don't know. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
So he goes into it and it really almost becomes
a kind of col barupoor where he's kind of like
ironically praising the government, but it really does kind of
call attention to the absane absurdity of sane absurdity, insane
absurdity of what is going on here, and just really
how important it is to, even if you disagree with them,
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have people who are making fun of the government actually
be on TV, and how important that is as a
just basic American bedrock principle, and that the best, most stable, strong,
stable geniuses, you know, just the thought, but they probably
should be able to survive some satire and some jokes
on this. So here's a little bit more of Stuart
talking about Trump's trip to England in a by the way.
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I love the gold just exposed, just exposing the tacky
nature of everything Trump and just the really just crap
all laying behind it.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Now, the visit d England couldn't have gone better for
our president. Finally a country affording our great leader the
respect and deference that any son God would.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
We saw the dismissal of a very well known chat
show host in America last night. Mister Kimmel is pre
speech more under attack in Britain or America.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
By the way, I also love the way, the pointed
way that the America or the Brits asked questions. It's
just like, are you really in complete hypocrits, sir? Or
is it really Britain who's at faults? You know, like
it's it's kind of a kind of a joke of
the situation, but you know, you can you can picture
the meltdown that is that is coming up from Trump.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Here. Let's let's see a little more of Stuart first Amendment.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Let me tell you how it works. There's something called
a talent ometer, is a completely scientific instrument that is
kept on the president's desk and it tells the president
when a performer's TQ talent quotion, measured mostly by niceness
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to the president, goes below a certain level, at which
point the FCC must be notified to threaten the acquisition
prospects for billion dollar mergers of network affiliates. These affiliates
are then asked to give ultimatums to the even larger
mega corporation that controls the flow of state of proof content,
or the FCZ can just threaten those licenses directly. It's
basic science.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
Read your count patotion, read that.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Look, there are certain rules of free speech that we
must all abide by, but in case anyone needs a refresher,
we're going to go over the rules again.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
He does not have a right to have a television
show where he lies his ass off to the American arrival.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
There are repercussions to spreading live.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Just like you.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
You can already tell the punchline that's coming out of
these people. And I feel like if we can kind
of loop this into just general Charlie Kirk post Charlie
Kirk murder coverage like which I think we can, and we'll,
you know, have other segments on today's show about this.
But it's just like how much of a mockery are
these people making of us? Right, Like, look at this
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stuff from the from the right wing, and these these
high and mighty pundits who are suddenly so concerned and
so just absolutely pissed off about the awful things that
are being said and the lies and the seats that's
being put out on mainstream media. You know, we would
never lie, We would never do anything but tell the
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complete truth to the American people. It's just like, who
do you think we are? Like we were also alive
for the last four years, in the last eight years,
you know, like we know you don't take any of
this stuff seriously. You never pretended to take any of.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
This stuff seriously.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
So we you know, you may be able to say, oh,
the left wing where there were hypocrites, they you got
to try to cancel culture us. Now we're going to
cancel culture you. But don't expect us to sit there
and take it, because you didn't sit there and take it.
And we didn't use the federal government to cancel anyone.
No one on the left use it. You know, I
hate aligning myself with all these people, these democrats, who
I mean, I disagree with a lot of these cancer
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culture stuff, but it's making me side more with the
liberals I ever would have wanted to because of the
fact that this is just such clear, grand standing bullshit.
It's just like, no one thinks Scott Jennings is really
deeply or whoever that lady was, is really deeply concerned
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about the lives are being spread on mainstream media. It's
Trump tells blatantly, offensively obvious lives on a daily basis,
and nobody cares about them. It's just like you there
there are no consequences for spreading lives there, there is
none of that stuff, you know. It's it's completely bs
And by the way, you know, there are protections to
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say things that aren't true.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
It's called the First Amendment.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
You are allowed to say things that are bad or
false and not face any punishment for them. It's just
it's the real especially by the way, not face punishment
from the federal government you are. That is not something
that you That is directly what the First Amendment is against.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
It is saying, you.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Know, Congress shall not come in and regulate people's religion,
the freedom of the press, people's ability to assemble. They
should be allowed to petition the government. I think there's
probably you know one more freedom, freedom of assembly I
think is another one there as well, but it is
it is a completely just offensive situation. See these people
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who are just like you know, there's real repercauctions.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
For this stuff.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
You know, again, you may be knowing, you know, you're
kind of being too cute by half here, but don't
expect us to sit there and take you know. I
think Steward is a great way of kind of speaking
for how a lot of liberals are feeling right now exactly.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
And even though two months ago, our president, because of
his grand ability to see the future, somehow knew that
Kimball would be next, as he explicitly.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Said, that's another good point.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
Make things up on television. People cannot just go on
television and mislead viewers with made up crap.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Millions if illegal aliens that borisar Harris brought into the
country will be voting.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
The bottom line is this, there is massive voter fraud.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Global warming as a host.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
Crime crime is in an all time high right now, fifty.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Million on condoms and gaza.
Speaker 8 (30:43):
They're taking people's pets and killing them and eating them.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
On January sixth, two years ago, the overwhelming majority were peaceful,
they were orderly and meet.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
These were not insurrectionists. They were sightseers.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
Oh oh, your lordship, I do not know whence these
peasants come. That last roll of clips all.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
True, especially that last one about sight sayers, because technically
anything you see is a sight.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Yeah, it's just like again, this is the bottom line.
I think the way that like so many liberals are
just beginning to feel it's just like enough, you know,
like just stop giving us this BS. We are not
going to be taking this anymore. It's like this idea
is like, we don't lie. We just care about real, honest,
respectful debate. Like nobody is buying that stuff. It's just offensive.
(31:56):
In the number one way you are going to lose
political power and you're gonna lose popular legitimacy is this
authoritarian push and it's also trying to stuff conservative ideology
down the face of people who don't want it. And people,
even if people are ambivalent on Charlie Kirk, they're gonna
(32:16):
see you, you know, average conservative pundit or politician or
whatever pushing this stuff so aggressively that they're gonna get
negatively polarized. Be like yeah, I'm against him being shot
in broad daylight. That's an awful situation. But no democrat
i've seen is celebrating this. But you're just kicking people
off the air. People barely said anything bad about this.
(32:37):
You're you know, you're also by the way, lying about it,
saying that, oh, we would never, you know, do anything
like this. We always tell the truth. We're always never
you know offensive, you know, we never tell you know,
a joke in bad taste. We never just straight up
make something completely up. You know, people see through this,
you know, it is a clear attempt to expand political control,
(33:00):
expand Donald Trump's control over the media landscape. And it
comes a point that people really are not going to
fall for it, especially where you know, people are gonna
first of all, see what's happening, but especially when you
tell them that, oh, this is a good thing. This
is you know, we're upholding standards and truth and we're
(33:21):
promoting you know, nonviolence or whatever crap that the right
wing is going to try and feed down to our throats.
And by the way, don't you don't you get on
the wrong side of this censorship brigade, or we're coming
for you next like that is something that is going
to not go very far at all with the American people,
and just the same way, by the way, the cancer
(33:42):
culture didn't and we will see the effects of it,
and we'll see how far they can get with this push.
I have a very dark feeling in the coming weeks
and months. There's a new focus group about showing how
Donald Trump is absolutely bleeding support with Latino voters. It's
pretty interesting. But before the conservatives get to triggered, there
(34:03):
is a little catch for you guys. Some of you
guys may like so stick to the end for that.
But here's the headline in the Bullwork, and a little
bit of something here about the Bulwark is that they
are kind of a never Trump publication made up of
Republicans who left the party when Trump came to power
and are generally kind of moved more to the left
(34:24):
wing side of things to resist Trump from a kind
of principled conservative perspective. That's the kind of you know,
bias they're bringing to this. But they did speak to
seven Latino voters who had previously voted for Trump throughout
you know, swing states, Red states, Blue states. They got
seven of them in a room, spoke to them about
why now they say they are regretting their votes. Let's
(34:47):
get into some quotes from this First. We have this
here from Kimberly, who is from Virginia. She was asked
what direction the country is going in. She says, I
think it is negative grocery prices. We have the tariffs,
we have immigration going on, and also the National Guard
using national Guard instead of police to fight crime. Here's
(35:09):
another one from Candy from Colorado. She says, I think
a lot of people are a lot more hateful. They
feel that they can be a lot more open about
it because they see it everywhere so much so that
no one is really trying to be nice and get
long and respect differences, said another participant, Candy from Colorado.
They think it's okay to pass their judgments and stereotypes
willie nilly because no one does anything about it, because
(35:31):
they see people in control not doing anything about it
and really doing it themselves. And you may be like, oh,
come on, you know this is Trump. We're talking about
it here. What do you think it's gonna spread peace
and love and joy? Didn't you see that before the election. Well,
the thing is that if you're saying that you're likely
a political dirictor like you follow politics way more than
(35:52):
the average person, and the people who, you know, Latino
voters included, are overwhelmed. The people who really powered Trump
to vict The reason why he won the popular vote
and did so well in the twenty twenty four election
relative to pass Republican performances, including his own in twenty sixteen,
was because he really got a lot of support from
photo to fall politics less who are more likely to
(36:15):
not have a college degree, make under you know, seventy
five thousand dollars a year, and by the way, less
likely to be white than people who really really follow
politics a lot. You know, they thought coming in that
Trump was going to as crazy as it sounds for
us who are you know, political nerds. You know, they
thought he was going to come in restore order, you know,
(36:35):
after what has been a pretty damaging presidency economically, and
you know, you got some dementia patient president out there,
Joe Biden. You know, that's the stuff that was breaking
through to them at the time. Trump said I'm going
to come in, I'm going to stabilize things. We also
got a lot of immigrants coming across the border that's
going to be a destabilizing impact. You got inflation, You
(36:55):
got to a president who can barely finish the sentence,
I'm going to be the one who's going to who
essentially bring a sense of normalcy and just calm to
the American political system. And instead what he's got, you know,
you see here in this quote from Kimberly is the
kind of the more substive things. You have grocery prices
(37:16):
going out of control, you have tariffs, you have immigration
going on, and also the National Gardens, said the police.
But they also see from Kimberly the things that are
also indicative of a broader chaotic situation, which is you
see are sorry from Candy in Colorado, is that those
people are just becoming more hateful. And the people who
are going to experience that first, obviously are going to
be Latinos who are being demonized as part of this
(37:39):
general Trump effort, which you know, many Latinos did not expect.
They think, oh, they're going to go after the criminals.
They're going to go after the immigrants who are being disruptive,
not the good immigrants who are trying to contribute to
this country. And you can see that just general feeling
of chaos with the immigration stuff really being at the
root of it, is going to come up again and
again in a lot of these responses. One participant, Read
(38:01):
from Nevada, said that he initially viewed Trump's moves on
immigration positively, but then he was confronted with human suffering
the administration was causing. Then you see the other flip
side where you see families being ripped apart, he said.
I didn't think that it was going to be that
dramatic where it's going to be hurtful in that sense,
So that kind of changed her mood from Okay, this
country is getting better on the immigration part. The borders
(38:23):
are getting more strict, but at what cost. Beth from
Jersey also said she initially supported a tougher stance on immigration.
We do need safety, we do need security. We owe
it to our country, she said, but she quickly added
that she lost a lot of confidence in the administration
on the issue due to the lack of a human
approach to deportations. She taught Trump's haphazard and heavy handed
execution on the issue to his and Elon Musk's arbitrary
(38:46):
firing of hundreds of thousands of federal workers as part
of the DOJEA initiative, saying it's bullying. At another level,
she's saying, just I want law and order, I want people.
I want candidates who follow the rules, and that kind
of goes to a sense of you know, we heard
Trump saying this hundreds of hundreds of times on a
campaign show. I'm going to be the law and order candidate.
I'm going to be the one who's going to restore stability.
(39:07):
I'm going to make America great again. Essentially, that was
what he was trying to do, and it wasn't this
kind of radical blow everything up campaign. What happened was
once he won that big victory, as it can very
very frequently happen, a lot of very hardcore audiologus in
his campaign, which are more radicalized than ever that kind
of sect, you know, the you know, the people who
(39:29):
were really the activist class of the Republican Party were like,
oh my god, we can do everything we want now
we have this big mandate, and you know, they really
misinterpreted the mandate. And the first people you're seeing backlaw
backlash beginning to brew among are going to be the
people kind of on the edges of the coalition, which
would be Latino voters, which would be young voters. And
(39:50):
I bet you could see a very similar situation if
you go to you know, the frat houses of America
right now and you start asking people, you know, what
do you think about Trump now compared to what you
did out of him, you know, a year ago or so,
And I bet it's gonna be a lot of you know, hey,
what happened in the Epstein flows bro You know, like
that that stuff does take effect because it was a
(40:12):
message that was fundamentally different than what was promised on
the campaign trail one year ago. Paulo, an eighteen year
old from Florida, agreed with the sentiment, lea, see, he's
super extremist, ignoring history. He's taken down government history websites.
He's changing the Department of Defense to the Department of War.
It seems that power has taken control of his mind
(40:33):
where he thinks he can change the constitution and control
the entire country by himself. And again, this is just
not what people signed up for. It's like people when
they started out, they wanted, you know, some the bad
immigrants to go away, which is always you know, kind
of a suspect thing from the start. But they wanted
us to not have a demensia patient as president, and
(40:55):
they wanted a president who stays they or at least
you know, they could have gotten the economy in check.
And they didn't want somebody who's going to be doing
all these radical changes in the government. They definitely did
not want someone who's going to be carrying out deportations.
Especially the Tino voters did not want someone who's going
to be carrying out deportations in such an aggressive, disruptive,
(41:15):
and really racist way. And you can see this here
with the next quote, this is Janelle from California said
immigrations who used for not affecting her life with her
kids with a child's sending letters home saying they won't
let Ice come in and take her kids. A week ago,
she said someone in her neighborhood was taken by ice.
You see it more and more. It's in our neighborhood.
(41:37):
They have announcements Ice is here. She said, it's just
a big thing. My family isn't worried about it, but kids,
my kids go to school here and they have friends
that are worried about it. And for kids, that's not
okay to be worried that they're going to come home
and not have their parents home. So it's just a
thing that was not part, as I said, of the
original deal. It wasn't what people thought when they were
(41:59):
going in, uh that the Trump administration the house we
can handle thing. I think going after the people bringing drugs,
the people doing murders, the people committing raves like that
was you know, it wasn't gonna be the guy who was,
you know, running a burrito shop. You know, not to
be put a stereotypical example here, but it wasn't gonna
be the guy running a burrito shop in the quarter
(42:20):
for twenty years, you know, who everyone loved in society.
Like that wasn't what was happening. And it really is
starting to create an image of chaos and an image
of instability that was never part of the original Trump
campaign promise. And you could see it here in the
polls too. This is another poll that they're setting from
almost wotantes, reinforcing the idea that Trump is bleeding Latino support.
(42:43):
You got a negative twenty three percent job off who
were rating negative twenty six percent rating specifically on the economy,
which I bet was a big reason why. You know,
it goes to that stability. It's like, we want to
get the economy in check, we want to get immigration
under control, and we want to get that demension patient
out of there.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Those are probably the three big reasons.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
It's why you see a lot of that low propensity
voters coming into support Donald Trump. And those are all gone.
Those are all gone, so pretty much destroyed. And the
economy is a big part of that. And it's kind
of an underrated part of why Trump was so successful
in the first place. Trump's approval rating also dropped ten
points from May. It was forty three percent May now
(43:22):
thirty three percent in September, with Latino voters.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
So not doing too well there.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
But here is the big catch, and it is kind
of an indictment, I would say on the bald work
that they put this at the very bottom. There is
an obvious opportunity for Democrats to capitalize on this discontent there, right,
but it's complicated by the challenges facing their own party.
While every single member of the focus group said they
regretted their vote, none said they would back Kamala Harrison
(43:50):
a hypothetical election rerun.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Instead.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
They all said they would support the third party candidate
or stay home. And I mean this should show you
it's not gonna be enough for the Democratic Party to
say Republican's bad, Republicans bad. You actually have to create
a policy platform that you can convince people that you
actually believe in and your candidates actually believe in, of
how you're going to actually make people's lives better on
(44:12):
the economy mostly, but really just making sure that their
lives are stable and that they can improve their own circumstances,
or you're going to lose again and again Latino voters,
even to the mass deportation candidate. So change is there,
but you really have to want it, because for the
Democrats and for the country.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
The stakes are just too high.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
It may feel like we are low on hope these days,
but I have a great news source of hope for you.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
We've talked on.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
This show about Zoramm Donnie's incredible rise, also Graham Plattner's
inspiring campaign for main Senate. Now I have a new
exciting left wing socialist candidacy today, Democratic state senator or
state representative in Wisconsin. She is running now for governor
and she's a member of the Socialist She is the
(45:01):
real deal. Her name is Francesca Hong. Check out her
launch video.
Speaker 8 (45:07):
It's so stressful to get by these days, and I
know a lot about stress. I work in restaurants. I
started in this kitchen fifteen years ago, and you might
recognize what's across the street, A lot of people that
tell again why it's so hard to get by right now.
Working hard doesn't mean you can always keep up. One
wrong step can lay you off flat. This is by design.
(45:31):
I'm state Representative Francesca Home. I'm a service worker, community organizer,
and a mom. I work for a living, always have
still do. Five years ago, my community sent me to
the capitol. The system is raped. I'm running for governor
to fix it. For years, we've been told that doing
better isn't possible. Well, let me tell you that's bullshit.
(45:55):
All we need to do is fight together. We can
fully fund our public schools and have universe childcare. We
can guarantee paid lead and have cheaper healthcare. We can
fix a rape system that puts oligarchs over workers and
small businesses. We can do better. Don't let anyone tell
(46:15):
you we can't do this. We can build a Wisconsin
where we share the table. I'm Francesca Home and I'm
running for governor because I know that together we make
better possible.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Yeah, so it's kind of I feel like it's kind
of a uplifting video there, Francesca Hong for governor and
a very kind of a positive one as well. And
I think, you know, it's got all the ingredients, Like, first,
you have some policies that are actually kind of connected
to the situation, that everyday situation that people are going through,
and they're actually listed in the video. It's not just
some random you know, just gesturing to the fact that
(46:55):
we could do a little better. Things aren't really that
good right now. The Mangro Republicans aren't doing so well.
Like if you see a centrist video, they're gonna be like,
you know, let's restore respectability, let's bring real change. But
then you know, of course there's no specifics. You know,
it's gonna be a left wing video when they actually
say things like cheaper healthcare, free childcare, like things are
actually to try and fight for in office because they
(47:16):
actually realize the situation that is at hand. But I
think another part of a message that is really really
important is that we can do better parts. We can
actually change the circumstances. And I think that's something that
was so powerful about zoramom Natis campaign, something that I
think Graham Plattner has been really trying to push, and
also something that you know, Bernie Sanders also in the
(47:38):
very beginning, was trying to push as well. It's like,
we can actually build a more positive world. We don't
have to do this kind of on a campaign of
hate and campaign of anger like Donald Trump did. We
could use our anger at the system and the way
things currently are to make things actually systematically improve. And
(47:59):
I feel like that is something that really does inspire
people in a much bigger way.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
But it's it's harder to do.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
It's harder to be credible on because people have been
promised so many things by so many politicians so often
that nowadays it's it's hard to get that credibility so
that people can actually trust you to bring that real change.
So you know, she's she does have a long history
of actually fighting in the state legislature for things she
(48:28):
helped end. I know tip Ways was a big thing.
But also another thing that I really like about her
is if you look at this, she was a leader
of anti Biden Protest Vote announced now that she's you know,
it says, this is the headline and political leader of
anti Biden Protest Vote announced this bid for Wisconsin governor.
So this was back and she's also you know, when
(48:48):
I say protest Vote, it means that she is very
pro Palestinian. She also gets that part as well, which
is very important and something you would expect, frankly from
any left wing legislator. So yeah, she's part of the
legislature's fledgling Social and Caucus, amplifying her working class background
as a chef and community organizer. In a campaign launch
video here in Politico, she says, service injury, folks are
(49:11):
built different. I want folks to be able to know
that in this state someone like me can not only
run for governor, but be governor. And I think that,
you know, it's actually it also is a positive thing.
It's just like there is such a kind of feeling
over time that politics is only for the mariage. Politics
only for people the right qualifications, the right education, and
that exists on both sides of the Democratic and Republican
(49:32):
You see very few people who are of these working
class backgrounds and that is also something that I think
lends her even a little bit more credibility to do
the things I was talking about before and actually promise that, hey,
things are gonna be different. I'm not going to be
same old, same old, which can be pretty tough to do.
But here's a pretty pretty important part. Thirty six year
old Hong, whose district includes heavily Democratic leading Madison, the
(49:53):
state capital at home to the state's largenty university, helpfully
the state's uninstructed push ahead of the state's presidential primer
last April, with some twenty five Democratic elected state and
local officials signing onto a pressure campaign attempting to sway
the Bid administration's plans on Israel. So she was actually
not only is she, you know, doing this things like childcare,
increasing wages for the working class, you know some of
(50:17):
the other policies that she had in there, you know,
ending the oligarchy, cheaper healthcare, things like that, actively planning
to fight on these domestic issues. But she also has
the moral judgment and the political instincts and just the
clarity to say that this on Israel all the way
back when was bad and that Biden should not have
been the Democratic Party nominee, not just because of Israel,
(50:37):
but because he was just purely unfit. And I think
that is also on top of the all of the
other things I mentioned, another key part of how she
boosts you know, the working last background, the focus on
real policy issues, this on calling out Biden, you know,
April twenty twenty four, when it was not popular to
do so. All these things serve to boost credibility towards
(50:58):
the fact that she will actually be a different type
of candidate. She's going to be somebody who is not
just going to get in there and kind of kowtow
to the same old Democratic leadership and way of doing things.
She is somebody who you know, and this could help
her win over some independence as well. She was the
one who was actually held her party to account, and
I don't think this is something she should be shy
of playing up and actually realized that the writing was
(51:21):
on the wall well before many other people did. She
actually understands the way things are going and what the
people in the Democratic Party base want to see. And
she actually, you know, she understood that when a lot
of other people, even Democratic Party in Wisconsin, were still
being incredibly dishonest and also could be a way of
how she differentiates herself with some of the other more
(51:42):
establishment candidates. You got the lieutenant governor in there, Milwaukee
County executive, so you got some pretty big, you know, high,
big name people. So you know, what were their positions
on Israel? What were their positions on Biden in April
twenty twenty four? Were they the ones saying that this
is not okay in any shape or form. You know,
Biden supporting a jinociety is also fundamentally too old to
be president, Like, we need to do something different. She
(52:04):
was saying that back in April twenty twenty four. You know,
she was proven vindicated and she should not be afraid
to hammer that home, especially again when it comes to
differentiating herself from more establishment candidates. And the effort was
a pretty successful thing. It garnered forty eight thousand votes,
man to eight point three percent of the vote. Was
seen as a shot across the vout and a harbinger
of the party's handling about Israel would present significant headwinds
(52:26):
for Democrats. And the reality the situation is now they
were right, and the people who were uncommitted, uninstructed, unaffiliated,
whatever they were right, they saw the writing on the
wall of how this would be for Israel, and you
saw Michigan voting for Trump in big numbers. You saw
(52:47):
the base turning staying at home in record numbers, not
just because of Israel, but because of the just general
dishonesty and immorality and just incompetence of the Biden administration effect.
They're pushing this old genociding, coolly supporter of a genocide
across the line. You know, that was something that was
viewed as so dis qualifying. And Francesca Hong and all
the other people who are pushing uncommitted you know, I
(53:09):
have to say myself included, were dead on the money
in seeing the political writing on the wall on this.
And I think, you know, people like Francesca Hong should
frankly step up and claim the reward because they get
what's going on here, they really do, and they we
see the future democratic part and better potic instincts. I
think than much, pretty much anyone, I would say that
(53:32):
Francesca Hong is going to be running against She's gonna
be vowing to take no corporate pack money instead of
aiming to build a campaign through crafts. Who's organizing an
aggressive social media campaign a lat zoron Mom Donnie, and
of course, as I said, she's going to be proudly
pro Palestine.
Speaker 2 (53:50):
So it is.
Speaker 1 (53:51):
You know, I'd like to filter in these stories whenever
we can. It could be a pretty depressing, tough world
out there. Uh, not a lot of signs of politicians
who are actively honest and focused on unapologetically bringing change
and standing up for the things that everyone knows and
sees to be right as a matter of common sense.
But we have one now, Francesca Hang. And I should
(54:13):
have said this before, but she is actually doing quite well.
She's got one hundred and fifteen thousand dollars she's raised
in the first thirty six hours. It's gonna be a
statewide campaign, so she's gonna need it a lot more
than that. But this is a very very good start,
and it's very very good to see somebody who is
actually looking to build a different type of politics, unapologetically
(54:37):
advocating for common sense populist left positions. It was very
good to see someone like her putting her hat in
the ring.
Speaker 2 (54:47):
All right, that's all we have for you this week.
Speaker 1 (54:50):
Thank you so much for listening. We hope you will
join us next week. We'll see you then. It seems
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