Time Travel Real ?

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Speaker 1 (02:06):
Well, j C, how are you doing a day before
Mother's Day? Are you prepared?

Speaker 3 (02:12):
I am prepared and I'm ready to do the mother thing.
Take the mom out something to eat and hopefully she
has a good time.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Well, you know, my wife today and my daughter, they
went to Wally's World, that's Walmart, and they said that
the stores are starting to be a little bit bare.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Well here's a tip. A few days before any hall
of major holiday, do not go to that store that yet.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
But here's the problem is the container ships, yeah, are
not going in. You know, you go into La San
Francisco in Seattle, they got one or two ships from
China logged in for this month and that's it. And
she I told her, well, go buy you know, a
couple of big packs of toilet paper, because you know

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what happened during COVID people were fighting. They were ready
to you know, kill somebody over toilet paper.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yeah. Matter of fact, me and my sister we did
some I don't know what you call urban bailing of Hey,
we got a big old bail all that stuff from
the old Costco where I've seen them look like the
Kentucky Derby about five years ago when they rang that
bell and they come around the corner pushing and shoving.
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Oh yeah, it's crazy. But Mother's Day is tomorrow. So again,
if you haven't got your mother something, well, shame on
you take her out to dinner, get her some morosa.
In fact, you know that's another thing we went into.
Well I'm not going to say the store, but they
said that they over ordered flowers this year. They bought

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like they did last year. But nobody's buying flowers for
Mother's Day. They're stuck with hundreds and hundreds of bouquets
of flowers.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, that's not something like you know you can put
on the show for half price a month later. It's
a short shelf life.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Ribbi steak at our local grocery store. Are you ready
for this? Nineteen dollars and eighty some cents a pound?

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Wow? I just bought uh Halan Hamburger for two fifty nine.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Actually yeah, but where do you live?

Speaker 3 (04:18):
I live in beef Country, or it would be a
lot more.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah. Well this think about that if you lived in
a you know, populated area on the East coast or
West coast like New York or LA or Seattle or that.
Did you don't find that for that price? No, No,
it's crazy. We're really going into uncertainty. And you ready
for this. Amazon is getting ready the next day or

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two to double the prices on stuff.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Boy, they really cornered the market a lot of stuff.
I'll tell you, what are you gonna do?

Speaker 4 (04:52):
You know?

Speaker 1 (04:52):
And it's hit and miss. If you order something, they
cancel it because they don't have it or the supplier
don't have it. I order two things as we two
different things from Amazon, and they refunded my money. They
said they don't have it.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yeah, I mean I've heard about the same scenario. That
kind of reminds me of that. Remember with all the drones thing.
The one governor said, well, we don't even want a
mess one that could be Amazon delivery?

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah, well what are they going to deliver toilet paper? Well, anyway,
tonight we've got a news with Guy Ticker and then
we're going to bring our guests. On tonight we're going
to talk about time travel, and boy, I want to
go back to nineteen fifty two that's where I want
to go. So we're going to talk about time travel
tonight with our great guests. They'll stay tuned. We'll be

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back right after Guy Ticker with the.

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News diving into the headline, some of them mysterious and unexplained.
This is the unseen news with a Guy Ticker, where
the extraordinary hes just the beginning. Scientists studying alien mummies

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from Peru claim the bodies are one hundred percent real
after new details emerge. The alien mummies discovered in Peru
have largely been dismissed as a hoax by the scientific community,
but researchers studying the specimens believe otherwise. Doctor Jose Zalce,

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former director of the Mexican Navy Medical Department, has analyzed
twenty one of the strange bodies, finding fingerprints, bone wear,
dental formations, muscular features, and internal organs, proving they're one
hundred percent real biological organisms. He even claimed some were pregnant,

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making them quote impossible to fake or replicate fraudulently, so
said Zalsay, who was testified under oath that the mummies
are real. Following his six years of work with them.
He estimated that the remains of a mummy named Monserrat
are from twelve hundred to sixteen hundred years old. Joyce Mantilla,

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a Peruvian journalist, believes the mummies are remains from an
unknown species of Hamanin due to having some physical characteristics
of a human, while its hands, facial features, elongated skull,
and feet are completely different. Monserrat was found with a
metallic like object on its head that Mantia said was
placed on the body while it was alive. They have

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been placed on the skin using a technique that we
still do not know, he said. In some cases, like Monsarrat,
the skin has been seen to have grown around the implant.
This gives us the understanding that these implants were used
while the subject was still alive. And that wraps up
Tonight's tough New Stories. I'm guide ticker on the Night

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Speaker 1 (09:44):
Well, Tim, how are you doing this Saturday night, day
before Mother's Day?

Speaker 4 (09:50):
That's right, and Gary, thank you very much for having
me on your show again. It's always a pleasure to
come on. I'm talking with you.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Well, you might not be happy when I tell you
that we lost to your video feed. Not on your side.
No one of my devices was working fine before, you know,
and now it's the camera cot working. So if you
don't mind, we're just going to have you on audio
and I'm going to try to get this working there
in the next break. But again, time travel, we're going

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to be talking about that. If we could go back
in time, what time would you want to go back?
What century? What year? And why?

Speaker 4 (10:30):
Gosh? You know, I keep thinking that I want to
see what the future has it stored for us. I mean,
you were talking at the beginning of the program about
grocery stores becoming empty and shipping contators not showing up

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on either coast. So with all of this bad news
that we're having now, I'm hoping that the future shapes
up to be better for us, and I would love
a sneak peak to see what would happen. But okay,
if you want to talk about where I would go
in the past, I suppose I would want to go

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back to probably the very beginning of humanity on the
planet to see where we actually came from, you know,
because I do believe in evolution, but I do believe
that the human species has been on this planet a
lot longer than you know, current scientists even dare to imagine.

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So I'd like to go back to, you know, maybe
a couple of million years ago to see if there
were actually high technology civilizations on the planet that existed
before our own that you know, maybe some kind of
cataclysm destroyed of you know, all uh Atlantis, you know,

(11:59):
stories like that. But yeah, that's that's what I'd like
to check out.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Well, you know, if you really think about it, I
don't think we had the technology to done the you know,
great Pyramids or the Phins or you know, even the
Maya civilization. They have had to have help. And why
is there well pyramids all over the world. That makes
you wonder, you know, maybe they had internet at that time.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
Also, well you know, and again I wonder whether or
not there there there wasn't a high technology civilization that
that existed long before the previous Ice Age, and that
maybe the remnants of that civilization still existed in certain

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locations around the world, like Egypt, like uh, you know, uh,
South America, Central America that tried to pass on that
knowledge to erect world, to the people that we were
still alive, but you know, had basically reverted back to

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a more privotive stance, you know, because all of these
civilizations have stories of gods or demigods, you know, or
people from the stars or you know, people from under
the earth coming up, com coming down and teaching things mathematics, agriculture,

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things like that to these people, as well as how
to build you know, these huge megalithic structures, you know,
something that we've you know, we've lost that knowledge. I mean,
you know some of these structures, especially in South America,
we couldn't even build them with our modern day creates.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
That's the whole point, you know, we don't have the technology.
They just in the last six months figured out how
the Romans made their cement that it lasted as long
as it has because we haven't even had that technology.
You know, if we make something out of cement, as
it ages, it gets stronger to a certain point, and

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then after a certain point it starts crumbling.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
You know.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
The Roman you know, with the cement they had it
actually got as the centuries went by, it kept getting stronger.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
Self healing too, from what I've been yeah recently. Yeah,
so that's pretty amazing. And you know, somebody, I can't
remember who it was, but you know, somebody said that
the AGECS made these megalithic structures not because it was
hard for them to do it, but because it was easy.

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So you know, that's something to take into consideration because
you know, modern day historians always like to show these
pictures of like, you know, thousands of slaves toilet away
their entire lives, you know, underwhip to build these structures
some egotistical king. But that's probably not the way it was.

(15:24):
You know, we know now that in Egypt that they
were a work crews that did it for pay. You know,
there were times of the year in Egypt where people
really didn't have anything else to do, so that's when
they were commissioned and brought in to help build these
you know, the pyramids and other structures. Again, not because

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it was hard to do, because it was easy.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Well, you know, I still think that the gods weren't gods,
is what they thought they were. I think the gods
we're visiting this planet and jump starting our planet. I
really do.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
Oh yeah, yeah, well, I mean, you know, once again, uh,
look at so many of these ancient societies and their
legends and mythologies, you know, of the gods who came
down from the stars to to to teach us things,
to to bring us out from that animal stage into

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you know, conscious beings, that not only conscious beings, but creators.
You know. That's that's the big thing that big evolutions,
evolutionary step, uh for people, is when we went from
just scratching around in the dirt to actually creating things.

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We became the gods ourselves. We became the creators.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
But you know what happens when humans start thinking they're gods.
There's a downfall of human society.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
Well, and that was one of the maybe it was
like one of the apocalyptic not apocalyptic stories from the
Bible that wasn't included later on, But the story went

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that the the Eoem not only did it want Adam
and Eve eating from the Tree of Knowledge, but they
also didn't want him eating from the Tree of life,
you know, because then they would become as gods themselves,
and that was something that they could have the ELM
couldn't have you know, their creations being equal to them,

(17:45):
so you know, and that's I think that's something that
that all of us need to think about. And our
place in the universe and on this planet is that
you know it was there are Is there still some
other race that is wanting to keep us down, that

(18:06):
is well aware of what we are capable of, both
destructively and as creators and as spiritual beings, but they
keep us on this planet. Possibly maybe this is a
prison webe.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
I was just going to say that because look at humans,
we have two sides to this. We have love and
compassion and then we have well kill the neighbor next
door feelings. I mean again, ever since man has been
walking on this planet, they have that that kill us

(18:43):
switch in there in their minds. And that tells me
we're not going to make it to the advanced civilization
that to go out and conquer you know, other worlds,
other planets to I just don't think we're going to
have the capability. I don't think we're going to have
the time at this rate. That's just me.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
Well, I I truly hope that we are able to
overcome those base instincts because like you said, I mean,
you know, we have so many people who are capable
of just absolutely wonderful, tremendous things, and then you turn
around and then there are other people who seems like

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their only desire is to tear that all down. Yeah, uh,
to to rob us of any progress that's been made
over the year, for whatever reasons. You know, sometimes I
think that they do it just for the heck of it,
just you know, that that thrill of destruction. So you know,

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it's it's a matter of I suppose who has who
has the most shops? You know, who can who can
outlast the other? Yeah? But yeah, but I do think
that that that people that that that good, that superior
aspect of us, that that that part of us that

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is well aware of our role in this universe will
prevail over time, but ultimately will prevail.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
I hope. So and if you and again you know,
talking about time travel and stuff, what if you had
the capability to go into a machine or sit in
that chair and pull the handles back, where would you
like to go?

Speaker 4 (20:39):
M h Well, like I said, you know, it would
be it would be fun to see where where we
came from. But then again, you know, uh, I suppose
that I'd like to go and check out some of
the the mysteries of this world that that you know,

(20:59):
we like to research and talk about. You know, it
would be fun to go back to see, like to
be around Mount Rainier in nineteen forty seven when Kenneth
Arnold was flying around and see what he saw? Did
he really see these these flying crescent shaped craft that

(21:20):
he later said looked like rocks skipping across the surface
of water, which then a reporter mistakenly referred to them
as referred to it as saying they look like saucers
skipping across the water. That's where the term flying saucers
came from, you know. Or what about the Roger Patterson

(21:43):
and oh Gilbler I can't think of his first name now,
the guys who took the film of Patty the Bigfoot
in Oregon in nineteen sixty seven. You know, I'd love
to have been there as well to see if that
actually happened or if it was a host. You know,
all of these mysteries that we that we love to discuss,

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you know, it would be great to find out what
actually happened.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
It would be you know, I would like to go
back and talk to George Washington. I mean, you know,
Abraham Lincoln and just you know again, you know, hey,
but would we really want to go back in time?
That's the whole thing. Like before we went on the air,
a cabinet member for under Trump came out and said
that we have the technology to go forward and backward

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in time. And if you know, if you really think
about it, there's people that have been out there. Time
travelers has been around for years, going back even you know,
when Art Bell had his show, he had a bunch
of them on his show, you know, saying that they're
from the future. But again, I'm still puzzled with that.

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I mean, if we have time travel, then they haven't
really accomplished anything, hmmm.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
Or they've messed things up so badly that we are
now off on some kind of wild branch of time
that never would have occurred if it hadn't been for
people messing with time. You know. I like to I
like to think that they're that the universe has ways

(23:26):
of smoothing things out. But but really, you know, my
own personal theories on the possibility of time travel because
a lot of scientists still like to bring up the
grandfather paradox that says that if you you know that
you can't travel back in time because you know, you

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could do something that would mess up your own future,
you know, going back and killing your own grandfather, thus
you don't exist.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
That would never but would you know you never exist?
That the whole thing. But again depending on you know,
quantum physics and who you talk to and string theory.
You know, again, if you went back in time, it
opens up another dimension, another parallel universe, So you could

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be going back in time, but not actually going back
in our time, going back, you could be going back
in a you know, that's the part that makes you wonder.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
Right, yeah, And that's you know, that's one of the
ways that I think that the universe may be prepared
to handle time travelers is that it will then create
you know, you go back and time, you kill your grandfather,
and then that creates a new branch of time timeline

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that goes off from that point, and you would never
be able to return to your original timeline because you
messed it up. Now you're for to go off on
this new timeline where you know, you killed your grandfather.
So now what's going to happen. You know, it's something
completely different. Now. I've just been reading recently that some

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physicists have been entertaining the idea that the universe actually
would never allow you to even kill your grandfather, that
there it would be, it would be stopped some way
or the other. You know, you could go back into
time and you know, you could beat your grandfather and
everything like that, but you'd never be able to kill

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him or do anything that would affect your original timeline
because you going back in time had already happened. It
was meant to be. So any changes that you may
do when you're in the past have already happened. Now
wrap your buying around that it was meant to happen.

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It had already happened. So you're chain nothing.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Well again too, if you go into a parallel universe
or it creates a bubble where you go into one,
then you're you're whatever is happening is not affecting what
where you originally started from.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
Right, Yeah, exactly. Well. At see, I often wonder with
time slips, and this is something that you know, I've
read about quite a bit and you and you've had
your own you know, strange experiences which could be you know,

(26:37):
a time slip, but rather than a time slip. I
often wonder if a lot of these cases aren't more
like alternate reality slips, that you that that that these
people who have these experiences actually somehow manage to live
all bit temporarily in a time line that is parallel

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to our own, but with differences, you know, sometimes so
close to our own that the differences aren't apparent. Sometimes
they are so rather than being the traditional where you know,
you think that you've entered the time tunnel and gone
back into the past and had these experiences, you know,

(27:23):
you've actually entered a parallel reality which may have you know,
which may you know, it's timeline may be a little
bit slower than ours. So well, you think you may
have gone into the past, you've gone into a different
reality that looks like our past, you know, and then
you can do whatever you want to. You know, it's

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not going to affect your timeline.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
An you know, here's the bad thing if that actually exists.
Could you imagine you go out to the bar, you
drink one too many beers, right, and then you go home,
and you know, and you up your door, you go
upstairs and your wife is in bed, and you go

(28:05):
take a shower and stealing it from a TV show,
by the way, and then you come back and you say, honey,
where's all my clothes in the dresser? Where did you
put my clothes? And then she starts screaming, get out
of my house. Who are you? That could happen. In
some cases it might be good it happened, but I mean, really, you.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
Know, well, and there have pi reports of people having just,
you know, very similar types of experiences. There's one woman
I can't remember her name off hand, who you know.
She came forward and said that she woke up one
morning and she was living a different life, that her

(28:49):
old life was gone. She still worked at the same place,
but her job title was different. People that she worked
with weren't there. There were other people in that kind.
She was engaged to be married, but in her new reality,

(29:10):
her fiance was gone. You know, she never met him.
And she she said that she never went back to
her old reality and that the people that she knew
and loved then have you know, completely changed. Friends were change,
some were the same, some were different. There were different

(29:32):
people filling the roles of some of her old friends. Uh,
and it's just it's just a bizarre experience. And you know,
now a doctor would say, well, she probably suffered from
a stroke or something like that that just made her think,
you know, that gave her false memories. But from from

(29:58):
her report, and of course you know this was you know,
you know, you have to take this woman at her
at her word for it that she had herself checked up,
no apparent signs of physical injuries or trauma or things
like that. So you know, I don't know. And you
know there have been other very similar stories of people

(30:22):
who have seemed to have left their original world and
are now living in a new.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
One that could have its benefits, you know that. Tim, Hey, Tim,
we need to take a break and we come back.
We'll continue on and during the break, I'm going to
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Speaker 1 (36:16):
We are back. I want to apologize to everybody. One
of our cameras died, and I think I would have
to tim restart the computer to get it to come
back up. And it's no way I'm gonna we do
that because we wouldn't be on the air. But you
know again, you know time travel, You know, remember like
The Fly and all these movies on time travel where

(36:39):
they tried to go back in time and went forward
in time and weird things could happen.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Oh sure, oh yeah, the Fly it was a teleportation device.
But think about it, though, if you do have tribe travel,
it's probably going to evolved some kind of teleportation as well.
You know, the Earth is constantly yeah, you know, the
Earth is constantly moving through space. The Solar System is
moving through space, the Galaxy is moving through space. So

(37:10):
if you're going to go back into the past, unless
you've got some kind of teleportation ability with your time machine,
you're going to end up in the middle of empty
space somewhere or in a beam.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Think about that.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
Oh yeah, yeah, exactly, you know, it's it's uh, that's
why a lot of these stories that have you know,
come out over the years about alleged time travelers and
their time machines. You know, I always view with some
suspicion just because of the sheer computing power that's going

(37:50):
to be required to make sure that none of these
awful things happen, Like you said, you know, end up
in the middle of a steel beam something where rather
than your an intended location.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
You know again, I was just thinking. Me and jay
Z talked to us about this a few times. You know,
like the Star Trek, right, they're transporters. Have you ever
imagined they go down on a planet and a freaking
fly lands on their shoulder, right, Jac, and then they
get all broke up, right, and then the transported back

(38:25):
on the ship. You know, the writers never thought about that.
They could have actually taken those type of shows so
much more exciting. Captain Kirk with big eyes of a fly.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Or friend's hair on your shoulder when you go in,
or some other bug or or god knows, it's endless ways.
Like you just said, you could have went with that.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
Could you imagine Jac going in and coming out as
a cockroach?

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Cock of the roach, yeah, cocking road.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Yes, you know again, you know again, you know the
risk of time traveling. You know we talked about Andrew,
you know, going up in that building, up in the
elevator and all of a sudden going back in time
or going to Mars or wherever he went. I mean,
you know, I find it so intriguing that, you know,
some of this stuff is so intriguing that it has

(39:21):
to be real.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
Yeah, you know, Andrew Saggio's a story is very intriguing.
And you know, I know, I know Andy and I've
known him for a while, and you know he talks
about how the devices that were being used were based
off of Nikola Tesla's technology, and that when he was

(39:49):
doing it as a kid, which would have been what
like the nineteen seventies, they had it all hooked up
to a computer. But think about the computers that they
had in the nineteen seventies. You probably have more computing
power in a pocket calculator now than they did that.

(40:12):
Yet allegedly they were able to accomplish some absolutely astonishing
feats such as teleportations to different planets and time travel.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
So that's the part it confuses me because I used
to design at one point in my life computers. You know,
I worked with doctor wang I. You know, I worked
on developing a well, I was one of the first
people to come out with an IBM XT clone back

(40:45):
many years ago. Here's the thing. Back in that timeframe,
the computers were huge, and your watch has more computing
power your you know, a watch than the computers they
had back at that time frame.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
Well, it's so it makes you think that, okay, well
maybe time travel if you are actually able to do it,
then uh, the other aspects of it aren't that difficult.
And that now you know, you talked about somebody in

(41:28):
Washington who said that, you know, we now have the
ability uh for time travel, you know, both to the
future in the past, which.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
You now are you going to believe somebody from the government.

Speaker 4 (41:41):
I want to know what sources he's basing this on,
you know, uh, before before I make any kind of
judgment one way or the other. Okay, who told you this?
And uh you know what was their source of information? Uh?
But if people like Andrew Psadio are correct, then possibly

(42:05):
we do now have time machines that you can fit
on or watch. I mean, just like the science fiction
you know, movies and television shows we grew up with.
You know, you've got people now who are like the
time police or the time bandits. You know that's considering
the way the government is right now, time bandits may
be more of an accurate to me. Yeah. But again,

(42:33):
if people have now currently have that kind of capability, uh,
it just it boggles my mind whether or not they're
actually mucking things up to a horrible degree. Again, just
like you know we would see on some of our

(42:55):
our favorite old science fiction movies and television shows. I mean,
you know, could we right now be experiencing the ultimate
the butterfly effect? You know, god insane because of people
messing around with time who really have no ability to

(43:16):
think things through, you know, just a bunch of stupid
people traveling back and forth in time, stopping on butterflies
in prehistoric times, and then coming back and are shocked
by the damage that they have done to the future.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
You know, I would like to go back to the
dinosaur time. Let's to see what the earth was like,
you know, when the Earth was still a virgin. It'd
be so unique. Moving along. My friend, you know, on
his radio show back years ago, had mister Gibbson who

(43:52):
claimed he invented a time machine. Now, when he first
came on the first time, he never said, well, you
had to kind of spiritually think about it at the
same time, and you physically didn't go back in time.
And I, you know, Art talked me into buying one
of his machines. And I didn't have the money for

(44:13):
the expensive one. I got the one that was two
hundred and fifty bucks. And I sat there, honestly, tim,
should I take it apart or not? And you know,
and Art said, well, no, I wouldn't take it apart.
And I said, well, Art, have you plugged yours? And no,
I'm not going to burn my place down. But I

(44:35):
finally got to the point where I took it apart.
I couldn't resist opening it. I wanted to see what
this time machine was in this box with this wand.
And when I took it apart, what I saw was
a transformer in it. I saw some resistors, some capacitors,
and some diodes. Okay, that it basically fed to this

(44:59):
coil on a wand okay, which was nothing more than
a degazrus. We were talking about before we were on
the air, back in the seventies, eighties, sixties, the color TVs,
they were very susceptible. If you turned your vacuum cleaner off,
for example, in front of it, it would your picture

(45:21):
would be kind of hazy and not sharp and brilliant
in colors. You had to periodically degauze it. That was
his device. But a lot of people actually believed they
went back in time. And that tells me that your
mind has a lot to do with being the ability

(45:42):
of maybe going back in time.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
I don't know, well, it makes me think because you know,
allegedly the Philadelphia experiment, the original idea was that you
would have like these huge degausers around these ships, and

(46:05):
that it would create I don't want to say electromagnetic fields,
you know, which is the opposite of degalosi though, but okay,
you know you have these electromagnetic fields that were supposed
to get rid of these magnetic fields that would attract

(46:28):
say like German and Japanese mines that were floating in
the water to the steel holes of these ships, and
you know, once you degoused them, then they didn't have
that ability. But apparently something happened with the way that
they had this set up and the frequencies that were involved,
and the you know, like the side effect was either

(46:50):
teleportation or time travel. So you know, I mean, was
Steepen Gibbs trying to replicate this but on a much
smaller scale but basically just ended up, you know, like
with Tape de Guser.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
I don't know, but it reminds me of another person
he hard had on the show mad Man, and I'm
not going to mention his name, but basically went out
and stole a whole bunch of power transformers and thought
by creating all this bullies with a massive amount of current,
you could go back or forward in time.

Speaker 4 (47:30):
Right. Yeah, this h this guy who lived in Missouri.
He had been doing experiments, he claimed, using a Jacob sladder,
now a Jacob slatterer. And I know, you know what
Jacob slatter is, and you've seen them on the you know,
like freaking side movies and stuff. They're basically two wires

(47:52):
with an electric current running up from the bottom to
the top, you know, sack like that. And he claimed that.
And he said that he was using the power source
from a laser disc, a blair of all things, but

(48:12):
that it he must have made a mistake because then
it seemed to cause objects thrown through it to vanish
and then reappear a few seconds later a different part
of his house. So you know, he got the bright
idea that you know, well maybe I could make it
bigger and better. And that's where he decided that he

(48:36):
was going to go to this a lot where they
had these transformers stored and as somehow, you know, those
things are heavy, you know, they're bigger, they're heavy. I'd
like to know how he managed to steal all those.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
His friends, he admitted.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
It ends yeah, but then after he hooked this all
up to his experiments, then he managed to blow out
the power through a large section of the city that
he lived in, so, you know, and that gave it away.
I mean they were the police are able to track

(49:17):
down where this came from, and he was arrested and
he admitted in court that he stole these things to
further his time travel experiments. Now, of course, his detractors
say that, well, he just used the time travel story
to sound crazy, so maybe he would get a leadency

(49:40):
in court.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Yeah, but why would when you really think about it him,
why would he why would he steal him? What motive
would he have? I mean, is he going to be
trying to create an ultimate lighter?

Speaker 4 (49:53):
I exactly.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Yeah. I mean he was trying to do something with
it that is very interesting what he was accomplishing. But
I even himself, he supposedly at one point got into
it and got transported career across the country. He didn't
know who he was for a period of time, and

(50:16):
then like a year or two later, he went back
where his equipment was and nothing was there.

Speaker 4 (50:22):
Right, Yeah, I mean he had just supposedly had just
just disappeared. And the place that he lived was he
rented it, so after he wasn't there to pay the rent,
then the landlord just basically you know, cleared everything out
and sold it. But by then he was I think

(50:43):
in Ohio where he said that he appeared after jumping
through his a larger version of his Jacob's Ladder. So
I don't know, you know, it's it's an interesting story.
And he obviously was conducting some kind of experiment, you know,

(51:10):
Like you said, that's a lot of power that you're
going to be generating using that many transformers. So and
it's not something that that most people are just going
to be stealing these transformers to. Well let's see if
I could you know, amp up my stereo system, you know,
a little bit more with with all this power. So

(51:31):
it's it's a bizarre story. And uh but once again,
like you said, why would you use the time travel
story as a lie? You know, why why not just
come up with something else. Well, you know, I stole
these I was going to sell them on the black market,

(51:51):
but then I decided it as a kick, let's just, uh,
you know, let's just attach them all together and see
what happened.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
But he had no way to I did tell to
him back in twenty eighteen he was going to come
on my show, and then he disappeared. He went to Hawaii,
and I don't know what happened. But you know, here's
the thing is, he had no way to control. I mean,
would you step in a device if you had no
way to control what year you're going to go back,

(52:18):
if you could even come back. I mean, you're stepping
into the unknown. You could be going to well before
even the earth was created, or you could be going
to well when the Earth is cremated.

Speaker 4 (52:33):
Absolutely absolutely, And you know the resource that I that
I did with this story, I never saw anything, and
I could you know, I could be wrong. I never
saw anything where he experimented with a living creature to
see if it would come out the other side alive.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Oh, he did it. He did a cat.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
He did a cat, did a cat ca It came
out in one beast without like fly.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Well, he said that, he said that the cat, if
I remember, he put it in and the cat he
appeared a few minutes later in a different location on
the property.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
Right right, which which was what was happening with the
inanimate objects that he was throwing into it. But once again,
if you're dealing with time travel, all right, just because
something appears, then a few seconds later at a different location.

(53:33):
Since time is so you know, weird, and you're dealing
with time, you know, time travel. How long was it
in that other state before it appeared back? I mean
maybe a few seconds to us, but for it, it
could have been a million years. See what I'm saying
with that? Now with the yeah, with the cat coming back,

(53:57):
you know the cat came back. When it did, that
seemed to show that at least the cat was gone
long enough that it was it was still alive, you know,
it didn't show up. It's just like you know, bones and.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Fur or how about like a bad barbecue. Could you
think about it? Think about the bulliage it was created,
and also think about this the current. The current is
what burns things up. It's not the vuliage. So if
you got a lot of amps, there a lot of current,

(54:32):
I mean to step into something like that that, you
know is I can tell you if he actually did
teleport himself again, I don't across the country. He found
himself in another That tells you that also it's teleporting
you to a different location.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
Too, right, It's it's not taking.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
You back where you're in the same building twenty years
or thirty years or or forward or backward he was
he claims he was on the other side of the country.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
Right, Yeah. But the thing about it is is that
he has no idea how long he was gone before
he woke up, you know, in that field. Uh So,
I mean he could have been you know, he could

(55:26):
have been gone a lifetime, you know in uh in
a part of space time, that part of space time
that is timeless, all right, So it could have been
you know, for him, a million years, but it's timeless.
So when you reappear, it's you know, you're you haven't changed,

(55:51):
but your subconscious would be very well aware. You know
that you have spent a million years floating in eternity,
so place. You know that that's a concept. A lot
of people have a hard time conceiving that that time
is probably actually a continuous state of now that the past,

(56:15):
president and future. That that that we think about because
we're trapped in the three dimensional uh material world that uh, past, present,
future doesn't exist. It's all just an eternal eternal now
you know, you think of even though time isn't spatial,
you know, the best way to try to conceive it

(56:37):
is like a three dimensional world that the past would be,
you know, to the west, the present is you know,
here in the center, and the future is to the east,
and that you know, if you rise above it you
can see it all at the same time. That's a
very very poor way to imagine it. But our fewer

(57:00):
winds really just can't conceive how time actually is. You know,
You've had people who have had near death experiences who
have described the true nature of reality that way. And
Nikola Tesla himself had an accident in his laboratory in

(57:21):
Manhattan where he said that for a brief moment he
was outside of time and space, that he could see
the past, present, future all at once, and that he
had a better understanding of how the universe works. And
naturally when he came out, when his assistant knocked him

(57:41):
out of it, he forgot all about it. But he
was left with that idea that time was not as
we think that it is in the you know, in
our three dimensional reality. And he worked then, you know,
the rest of him his life trying to come up
with his own version of a unified field theory that

(58:04):
he was never quite satisfied with. And of course Einstein,
you know, worked for a long time and had published
at least two different versions of his unified field theory,
which he then would later pull because again he felt
that they were incomplete.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
Well, you know again you mentioned, you know, Tesla had
that accident, But you know, I had two weird experiences.
I died twice December sixth I mean, I was dead.
They had to do CPR both times. And when I
was dead, I didn't know I was dead, but I I,

(58:49):
how can I say this? All I saw was darkness.
I didn't hear any talk of the you know, the
rescue people, you know, trying to bring me back. What
I felt was so content that I thought I was
part of the universe, and I felt like I knew everything.

(59:11):
It's a weird feeling. And then they brought me back,
and then on the way to the hospital, I flat
lined again and died. And I went for the same
experience with total darkness, and I felt so good and
I felt like I knew everything and I felt like
this is and I didn't want to come back. It

(59:32):
was weird.

Speaker 4 (59:34):
H Oh yeah, Well, I mean and you know that
conventions so many people who have had these experiences that
you know, there there is more you know, to us
to ourselves than that what we think, you know, with
our you know experiences here you know, in in this reality.

(59:56):
You know, I've I've heard stories of other people who
have experience is just like you know yours scary and
you know, it started out in total darkness like that,
but then as it progressed, they became aware of of
a light that then you know, transformed you know itself,

(01:00:17):
you know, in front of them as it progressed, which
you know, you know, I don't want to say it
is you know, I mean may have happened to you
if you had been you know, uh uh deceased a
little bit longer. But then again, a lot of other people,
uh don't even have what you had, you know, Gary,
they they said that, you know, they did not experience anything.

(01:00:40):
So you know, what's the difference. What is the difference
between the experience that you had and say somebody who
had one that immediately you know, they were aware that
they were floating up to the ceiling and then outward
and you know, into the galaxy and then finally you know,
into the summer land and and things like that, you know,

(01:01:03):
only to come back, you know, even though they felt
like that they had been gone for days, you know,
to come back and find that they'd only be gone
a few minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Yeah, that's an everything. What is time?

Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
When I was dead, Yeah, it didn't seem like I
was dead for a few minutes. You could have said, well, gee,
you were dead for two years. I had no concept
of time in reality, right, It was really weird. Now,
changing back the Philadelphia Experiment experiment, you know, do you

(01:01:37):
think it was a hoax or do you think it
was reality or something deeper.

Speaker 4 (01:01:44):
I do think that something actually did happen, you know,
whether or not it happened, as the stories have now
come to us, I have my doubts because I know
how stories can get embellished over the years. I mean,
you know, when I was a teenager and first started
reading about the Philadelphia Experiment, you know, it's it's changed

(01:02:12):
a lot in that time too. Now, you know, now
supposedly they have the name of the ship the Eldridge,
and you have stories about Nikola Tesla being an active
participant in the Philadelphia Experiment, and you know the stories
of like al Beelik and how the ship was actually

(01:02:34):
transported through time as well as space, and that he
ended up living a few years in the future, you know,
before he was able to be brought back. You know.
It's it's these embellishments that have been added on to
it over the years that you really have to be
cautious about. Yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
I did research on this that that ship though, wasn't
in anywhere near there that that was that was the thing.
It was somewhere else at that time.

Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
So right, yeah, oh yeah, And so you know, I've
always had my doubts that the Eldridge was a ship
for for just that reason, you know. And again, I
mean that was something that came out probably from the
book The Philadelphia Experiment by Charles Burloins. But you know,

(01:03:26):
I've always had my doubts on the the identity of
the Elder Now, the Eldridge may have been part of
later experiments, because you know, it's pretty obvious that it
just didn't stop with whatever ship was being used, you know,
for these experiments, because you know, years later the United

(01:03:48):
States sold the ship to the Greek Navy, right, and
the chief engineer of this ship after it was owned
by the Greek Navy, discovered that there were odd cables
that were in the bulkhead of the ship that were
not in the blueprints which he had of of the

(01:04:13):
ship when it was when it was built. But here
were these very you know, like I can't think of
what the term we would be, you know, our high
capacity uh electrical cables you know in this ship that
seemed to have been added after its original construction, but
again with no apparent reason on why they were there.

(01:04:35):
Now who knows, you know, it just seems to me
that kind of odd that a ship that had been
identified as at least being part of the Philadelphia Experiment
has these very high voltage electrical cables you know, in
its hull where they're not supposed to be. Why are
they there? How did they get there?

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
Well, if that really did happen, then that's the proof
we have that time travel does exist in one form
or the other. But again we evidently were not able
to control it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
Uh yeah it you know. Then there are the stories
that the Philadelphia Experiment then morphed into the Bond Talk
project or quoted that I think it was Project Rainbow
that may have been what it's what its name was,
that involved using people and enhanced psychic abilities to try to,

(01:05:45):
amongst other things, try to achieve time travel. And that's
something that I have run into time and time again.
And you know, I think you you mentioned this to
a certain extent too, Gary, is that the human mind,
are consciousness, seems to play a very big role in
how time travel could possibly work or not work. All right.

(01:06:09):
You know, you could build all kinds of fantastic technology
that may be able to in theory, travel through time,
but it never does because it requires a human and
our unique abilities, our unique place in with our consciousness

(01:06:33):
in reality and in this universe to actually make something
like this happen. You know, uh, you know, maybe where
the batteries or the you know, the actual computer, you know,
that would make these things work properly. But I think
without that human element there, it's not going to work.

(01:06:55):
And you know, and and again who knows, because we're
talking about a phenomena. You know. It's like I said before,
with time slips, are time slips actual time travel experiences?
Or are they uh you know, inter into reality, parallel

(01:07:17):
reality jumps? You know, I don't know. I mean, it's
just uh, it's it's one of the big mysteries that
has has confounded me over the years. And you know,
I keep researching it. But then you know, I get
stories like yours, Gary, with you and your sons with

(01:07:37):
the diner, which sounds on the surface like it could
be a time travel event, time slip. But when you
when you had the experience, did anybody come to you
and say, what's that weird car you're driving here?

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
Here's the tim when this happened. Yeah, I didn't. I
didn't realize what was going on. Again. The cafe we
stopped was the one that when I was a young kid,
my grandma, father and my grandmother we would go to
you know, Mount Rainier quite often during the summer in

(01:08:20):
his nash and we would stop in this diner and
you know, he would have coffee, you know, and I
would have ice cream or soda or something like that.
And when this happened with me and my two sons,
we were driving down the road, there was like a
reader board, you know, a soda and hamburger for a buck.

(01:08:44):
And you know, when you have young kids, you know,
the first thing they see that, right, I'm hungry. You
go in there, and the first thing I started thinking, well,
is there some type of cars show around here? Antique cars?
Because the cars were like early, early sixties, late fifties,
mid fifties, you know, that type of cars. And when

(01:09:09):
we walked in there, here's the thing. They were wearing
clothes like I remember my grandmother at my grandfather or
when I was like a teenager. You know, they were
like twenty years plus out of date in clothing, and
they were staring at us, and I, you know, I

(01:09:30):
was kind of staring back at him. I wanted to
get out of there, like you wouldn't believe. But I
have always wondered, honestly, well what happened If I would
have stayed there a little bit longer, could I have
gotten trapped in that time zone?

Speaker 4 (01:09:48):
Yeah? Well, you know, did they accept your money when
you paid afterward?

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
They?

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
When I handed in the money, I remember the lady
to this day, she stared at it and got down
and we walked out. She probably thought, oh my god,
they gave us counterfeit money. But they were more like
yin they were staring at my car. They were staring
at us because we were weird to them. Think about it.

(01:10:15):
I was wearing bell bottoms and all that. Anyway, we
got a caller, who do we have out there?

Speaker 6 (01:10:21):
Art?

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
Hi Art? How are you doing on this Saturday night.

Speaker 6 (01:10:25):
Oh God, great, great, And every time I'm listening to you,
I want to ask a question. You guys are answering it.
It's just interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
Well, we read your mind, we read your art.

Speaker 6 (01:10:34):
I know. My question is is an interdimensional in a
sense a time traveler? If it's non human or human,
what would that be considered a time traveling or if
you can answer that question, that'd be great to understand
what an interdimensional is. And I'll take it off the air.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Thank you, okay, art, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:10:59):
Well again. I wonder whether all right, since you know naturally,
you know, we're going to be talking here in Earth centric,
you know, because we haven't traveled too far away from
from planet Earth. So I think that for the most part,

(01:11:20):
any encounters that we would have, you know, with interdimensional
or or you know, inter uh, parallel realities are going
to be basically our ourselves, uh, within a certain I
suppose parameter uh. And I'm struggling, you know, for for words,

(01:11:40):
here within our own reality. And you know, I suppose
the further away that you would get from this reality,
the weirder things would would get. But that being said,
you know, there is a consideration that you know, the
UFO phenomena are time travelers now time travelers from our reality,

(01:12:10):
our future, or possibly even our past, but also probably
time travelers from other worlds who are using time traveling
as a way to travel the universe. Uh. And so
then once again, if if you're running into situations like that,

(01:12:33):
then you're going to be dealing with interdimensional beans that
are going to be closer to these these aliens than
they are to us. I think that that could be,
you know, one possible explanation on why, you know, when
when people happen to run across say a landed UFO

(01:12:57):
and see the beans coming out and you know, running
around doing whatever they do. There's hardly any consistency in
these reports. We have hundreds and hundreds of different reports
of creatures that look different, you know, I mean, you know,
they run the gabit from little guys to giants to

(01:13:19):
you know, things with wings, to you know, glowing balls
of light. So, you know, possibly that could be what
is going on that you know, I don't know. Maybe
you know, Earth is like the like the Disney Land
of the alternate realities that everybody wants to come here

(01:13:40):
and visit for some reason or possibly everywhere is like that,
that these mysteries, these weird things that we are seeing
happened everywhere, not just Earth, not just our reality, but everywhere.
It's just part of the nature of things. And that's

(01:14:03):
a convoluted answer, I know, but I hope maybe I've
come a little close to, you know, to answer your question.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
You know again too, you know, tim when you think
about time travel and you think about all these people
that go missing on a record basis, maybe that the
cases of these could be because of time travel or
you know, like my my thing going back for a

(01:14:31):
short period of time in a diner that no longer existed.

Speaker 4 (01:14:38):
Well, you make a good point, because you had said
that you had an uneasy feeling that if you stayed
longer that you perhaps wouldn't be able to leave again. Yeah,
and that's common. I've heard that from other people who
have had similar experiences. You know, if there, if they're

(01:15:00):
not uncomfortable right from the start, it slowly creeps up
on them to the point where it's almost like a
claustophobic type of feeling that I've got to get out
of here. If I don't leave now, I'm never going
to be able to leave again, it's this viseral animal
instinct I suppose, you know, to the strangeness of the

(01:15:23):
situation and possibly you know, with this subconscious realization of
what's actually going on, it doesn't quite penetrate to your
conscious you know mind, but your subconscious is saying get
out of here now.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
Well, you know, it could be like if you didn't leave,
you could be like in a time bubble, or it
just keeps repeating itself where you're trapped.

Speaker 4 (01:15:51):
Right, yeah, exactly, which you know. It does make you
wonder with some of these different types of time slip experiences,
you know, because there have been situations where different people
have had the same experience at the same location and
seeing the same kind of things. So, I mean, you know,

(01:16:13):
is there are there, you know, time bubbles floating around
that that people can accidentally, under the right conditions, walk
into and then walk out again, you know once the
frequency you know changes back, but then again under the
right conditions, somebody else can have this experience now, you know,

(01:16:36):
the people who are uh okay. There's a story that's
going around right now about a gas station off of
the Interstate in Georgia, just south of Atlanta, and it

(01:16:57):
started out with some girls who stopped and you know,
the place was weird. The guy behind the counter was
old and you know, looked weird with hot of eyes
that stared at him. You know, the place was dusty
and didn't look like it had been you know, used
for years. And then once they left, they kept driving

(01:17:18):
up and down the road trying to get away, but
found themselves going past this gas station again and again,
like it was a loop, you know, like an infinity
loop that you couldn't get away from it. So now
another listener to this story came forward and said that

(01:17:41):
his dad had come home one night and said that
he had seen the ghost of time travelers. And he
worked at a gas station off of the interstate in Georgia,
and this would have been back, I think in the
early seventies. And unfortunately, this guy was a drinker and

(01:18:04):
his wife thought that he had fallen off the wagon
again and took the children and left. But this guy
always remembered this story that his dad had about the
ghost time travelers at his gas station, and he said
that they he knew that they were real because when
they left, they peeled out and left tire marks in

(01:18:24):
the gravel in front of the gas station. So you know,
was was this guy was, you know, was that part
of time trapped in a bubble and everybody else you know,
I mean, you know he went on and you know continued,
you know, with his life on the timeline. But still

(01:18:45):
there's this bubble of time that people can it appears
like that they're walking into and had become trapped in
it for a while, you know, because other people are
reported they try to drive away, no matter which direction
they go, they find themselves back driving in front of
this gas station.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
Yeah. That that you know, there's a story like a diner,
the same thing. They just they head out and all
of a sudden, here they come. They didn't make any turns,
but they come right back to that diner. No matter
how they keep trying to get out away from that dinner,
they kept coming back and again. They could be a
time slip or maybe some people out there scientists say

(01:19:27):
that we don't even exist as what we think we are.
You know, we could be running in some type of
you know, I don't know, that's interesting, but could you
imagine could you imagine you do go in a time
slip or and you go home and all of a sudden.

(01:19:48):
Your twenty year old wife is now eighty. Could you
imagine the shock of that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:55):
Well, there have been there have been a few stories
of people who who you know, they go out and disappeared,
never to be seen again. But then, you know, fifty
years later, supposedly appear on the street, shocked by what

(01:20:19):
they're seeing and what's going on, and when the authorities
questioned them find their paperwork is indeed from the past.
And I'm referring to a story that has come out
of come out of Ukraine, where this guy disappeared in
the thirties and then apparently reappeared again, I think it

(01:20:43):
was in the sixties, was held by the authorities for
a few days while his paperwork was being checked, but
then vanished from the facility. And when they and found
this guy's wife, who is now considerably older, she talked

(01:21:05):
about how he had come home one day and said
that he had gone into the future and had come
back with some information about what he saw. But then
a few weeks later that disappeared again, never to be seen.
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
But you just open up a worm right there. What's
say you could go in the future twenty years or
thirty years in the future and you saw something bad
and you come back, are you gonna would you tell
people what you saw? Would you go up to this nordist?
Would you go up to whoever go to the news
media and say, oh my god, life as we know

(01:21:42):
it doesn't exist thirty years from now. Would you would
you what would you do?

Speaker 4 (01:21:50):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
Write a book? I know that, but go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:21:53):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if I would
even do that, you know, because, as you know, Gary,
I mean, I've had some strange experiences in my life
which I haven't really talked a lot about because of
you know, the books that I write, the research that

(01:22:13):
I do, you know, because I don't want, you know,
people to say, yeah, well, of course you know he's
going to say that, you know, he's a mystery bonger.
But the things that have happened to me, you know,
actually happened. However, if I did have something like that happened,
I don't know. I doubt if I would talk about it,

(01:22:37):
perhaps with the hopes that if it was bad, that
not saying something about it may stop it from happening,
you know, because I just have the feeling that if
you talk about bad things and that's that's going to
lead to him actually happening.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
Something bad had happened to you for talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:22:59):
It exactly exactly. The chandelier folds of crush and crushes me.

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
Yeah, hit by a lightning bolt.

Speaker 4 (01:23:10):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:23:10):
You know, time traveler. You know, if it ever became
or time travel ever became public, how do you think
society would change? And would you think it would change overnight?

Speaker 4 (01:23:22):
Mm? Hm, you know. One of the things. And this
is something that I wrote about in my book, in
my book Weird Time, Exploring the Mysteries of Time and Space,
Because you had a priest from Italy by the name

(01:23:43):
of Father Unetti, who, with the help of some physicists,
claimed to have built a device that he called the
the the chronavisor which said that, you know, you could
tune in to past events and see things as they happen.

(01:24:03):
But then after the church had initially funded this, then
decided that that the device should be taken apart and
they would they would store it in the Vatican's archives.
And the reason being probably is that, and the thing

(01:24:23):
would go with time travel as well, is that there
would be no more secrets. Nobody would be able to
keep a secret. And I'm not just talking about you know,
major secrets, no secrets, you could you could have people
finding out all of our you know, just normal everyday

(01:24:46):
things that you don't want other people to know about.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
Well, that's happening now as AI is causing that to
happen every day more and more.

Speaker 4 (01:24:55):
Yep, yep. Well, but what would that do to our
society If you could go back and spy on anybody
that you wanted to despy on and see there were
most intimate details and learn their most intimate secrets, you know,
society would blow itself up. I think, you know, we're

(01:25:18):
going to have to be a lot more mature as
a society, as a people before time travel could become
a thing for I think just that reason.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
Well, it's the same way with upology, you know. I mean,
you know, I don't think we're going to ever be
told the truth on that, but you know there's time
travelers out there, like time warp back in twenty twenty four.
He claims, well, of course, we don't know what's going
to happen, but he claims he was from the year
twenty six seventy one and in twenty twenty four. Lately

(01:25:50):
that year we were going to be in contact with ets.
I don't think that happened unless you know, the government
did that.

Speaker 4 (01:26:01):
Yeah, you see, And that's that's the thing, you know,
you see these these predictions that never come true right now,
you know, on on TikTok and Instagram, there's all these
you know, I'm a time traveler from you know, threeenty
thirty six, and I can prove it. And then they
offer up these predictions over the you know, like what's

(01:26:23):
going to happen over the next few months, and I've
been following these for a couple of years now.

Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
And what happened or what happens to those people that
make the claimants? A few months later, they changed them.

Speaker 4 (01:26:35):
They pushed the dates back. You know, there's one where
he's always predicting that, you know, that there's going to
be like a mass disappearance on the planet and then
these aliens are going to come down and uh claim
to be responsible for the disappearances. But he keeps pushing

(01:26:55):
the dates back. You know. At one point it was
like you know what, like you said, it was like
August of twenty twenty four. You know, well, now it's
you know, it's going to be August of twenty twenty five,
and after that passes, you know, so you can't you
can't trust this stuff. And I wonder whether or not,

(01:27:17):
say you do have somebody that is able to time
travel and make these predictions. Is making the predictions going
to be enough to alter it because now people are
looking at it and you know, and expecting it to happen.
Does that cause then that branch of reality to go
off in a completely different direction?

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
Well, created the bubble, maybe created a bubble right right?

Speaker 4 (01:27:44):
Well, you know, I mean you had like John Teeter,
you know who was who appeared on these check rooms
and I think one of Art Bell's check rooms is
as wells me.

Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
He actually appeared on what I think one of art
shows to and made all these.

Speaker 4 (01:28:06):
Plans right right, and you know, at the time, you know,
he he said that you know, this stuff was going
to happen. But then when none of it happened as
he said it was, he came back and he said
that there could be the possibility that me coming back
in the past altered my timeline and that I'm never

(01:28:30):
going to be able to go back to where I
came from because none of the stuff that happened to
me when I was a kid, has now happened. So
and he apparently didn't understand or claim not to understand,
what was actually going on. So I don't know. I mean,
the John Teeter story, I've always viewed somewhat, you know,
with as as entertainment, you know, rather than something that

(01:28:56):
actually happened. You know. But some of the things that
he said was going to happen, you know, like this
is going to happen, like during the Obama administration, seemed
like that, you know, it could you know, it could
be heading to that direction. But fortunately it never did.
You know, he didn't have the Civil War, the Russians

(01:29:17):
attacking this with atomic weapons, or it just you know
it maybe it pushed things, you know, down the road
a little bit, so you know, instead of happening in
Obama's time, it's just going to be you know, twenty
or thirty years later.

Speaker 1 (01:29:31):
I don't know, it's just yeah. Again, so many people
make these claims. And there's one guy who claimed a
time traveler. He claimed he was from twenty thirty and
supposedly he claims he passed okay, he claims he passed
a lighting deck or test and said Trump would be
re elected, and then Trump, you know, was reelected, you know,

(01:29:54):
was elected. But again, you know how many people come
out there and make these out rageous claims, and you know,
they get there a couple of minutes of fame. But again,
even if you're coming out and saying I'm a time
travel from twenty forty, this is what's going to happen.
As soon as you say this is going to happen,
it could create it not to happen and create another bubble.

(01:30:17):
And that's the whole thing. So I don't know, I
don't know how this stuff works, but I can tell
you this. I can tell you this. I'm on a
couple time groups on you know, different media, and I
get these people when they find oh, your talk show hosts,
then they start asking me questions about time travel, Like

(01:30:38):
I know, it's so many people believe it's it's real.
They really do. There's a lot of people out there
that believe time travel is real.

Speaker 4 (01:30:52):
Oh yeah, well uh, and you know, I think a
lot of people and it's kind of the same thing
with the UFO phenomena. I'm the idea that they are extraterrestrials.
Is that so many people have been.

Speaker 7 (01:31:04):
Brought up, you know, with television shows, cartoons that deal
with these subjects, that I think that once they reach adults,
that they think that it's true, you know, because they.

Speaker 4 (01:31:20):
Possibly aren't the most critical figures you know, out there,
But just assume that because they saw these things, that
there is a basis to reality to it and haven't
been told otherwise, you know. And then again, you know,
you have people think that time travel is real, but
it's you know, it's a government conspiracy that they're keeping

(01:31:43):
it secret from us, you know, like you know, like
like they're keeping the flat Earth secret from us.

Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
Well, you mean the Earth isn't flat. Don't wreck my weekend.
I thought the Earth was flat. Oh my god, I
just wrecked my whole weekend. And it's Mother's Day tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (01:32:07):
I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Gary.

Speaker 1 (01:32:10):
I already know the box the planet is a box shape.
That box, the.

Speaker 4 (01:32:20):
Bizarro planet in the old Superman comic books was box shaped.

Speaker 1 (01:32:27):
But here's one thing you know again, Andrew, you know claimed,
you know, when he was in this secret time travel
training program for kids. Why would they have taken kids
for time travel and not adults. That's one thing. It
always puzzled me with Andrew on that.

Speaker 4 (01:32:50):
Yeah, I can't remember the exact reason. I think that
he there was something along the lines of that, you know,
kids were more open plastic, I suppose within the you know,
with their state of mind and are more easily accepting
things like this, while while adults would have would have

(01:33:14):
problems you know, uh with the reality of non reality
and uh and and just the whole process of of
you know, going outside of of this state of awareness
and into another. Though. I mean he did say, you know,

(01:33:36):
I do remember him saying that years ago that uh,
the process that they went through would leave them with
future health problems, and that seems to have been the
case with him. Yeah, you know he yeah, I mean
he's and you know he even said years ago, you know,

(01:33:59):
the the type of health problems that they told him
he may develop, and that seems to have happened.

Speaker 1 (01:34:06):
If they sit there and tell me, you know, hey,
you know when you're a kid, well, when you're at
a certain age, you're going to have this problem, this problem,
this problem, then I would look at him and say,
you know what, I don't want to go back in time.
I don't want to go forward in time.

Speaker 4 (01:34:21):
Well, I mean, you know it was his you know,
his dad was I guess one of the engineers. Yeah,
that was a part of this project, and you know,
encouraged him to do this, you know, for the good
of the country probably, you know, something like that. You know,
and I've often wondered with somebody like Andrew and again,

(01:34:42):
you know, going into this idea that time travel may
actually change the timeline that you came from. You know,
considering the number of times that he supposedly did time travel,
could it be that at some point that he came

(01:35:04):
back to a world where none of this existed, and
that and then and then he was trapped here all right.
You see what I'm saying. He came back to our
reality where the time travel experiments never happened. And that's
why what he tells these stories. We look at him like,

(01:35:26):
you know, okay, you know, sure, Andy, you know we
you know the companies existed. You know that he claimed,
we're part of these government contracts. But as far as
we know, and you know, there's a lot of corporate secrecy,
but as far as we know, they never were involved

(01:35:46):
in these time travel experiments.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
Well, go ahead, Yeah, that makes logical sense. Do you
remember the TV show They rebooted it. I don't even
know if it's still on. But Sliders, Oh yeah, yeah,
if you think about it, you know, they're constantly sliding
into another time a bubble, you know, another parallel universe,
another time frame, and where everything is kind of the

(01:36:12):
same but not the same. Could you imagine that if
you ended up and came back it just just the change.
There has to be some subtle changes. It would happen
no matter what.

Speaker 4 (01:36:28):
Yeah. Well, and that's you know, that's why it makes
me wonder whether or not these uh, A lot of
these time slips aren't something akin to sliders, but just
on just somehow occurring naturally, you know, which I mean,
that's that's something that you know, I think that physicists

(01:36:50):
and scientists need to look into a little bit more closely.
You know, if these are natural events, how are they occurring?
Why are they are currying? You know, because I'll give
you an example please, all right, there there there were

(01:37:13):
four people, two couples who were on vacation from England
that they were ultimately going to end up in Spain. Uh,
but they were going to like you know, drive through
the continent and through France and then you know, go
to Spain. At one point in France, they were looking

(01:37:33):
for a place to stay and we're told about this
hotel you know that had probably had vacancies for them,
and so when they finally found the place, it ended
up being a very rusty hotel. Uh. There was no
glass in the windows, just wooden shutters. The beds didn't

(01:37:57):
have pillows. They they had like like a cloth covered
block of wood, I think is what they said. The
doors didn't have locks, just wooden latches. They took pictures,
but none of the pictures came out. In fact, there
was no indication that the role was even advanced through

(01:38:20):
those points. You know, it was like they took the pictures,
said it just never just never took the next day,
they were having breakfast and there was a couple of
gendarmes in the little restaurant that was attached to this
hotel that were wearing extremely old fashioned clothing. A woman

(01:38:41):
come in dressed in what they said appeared to be
like like an evening wear, like you know, she was
going to a party, and she was carrying a small dog.
None of them considered these oddly dressed people out of
the old and marry. They even asked the gen Domes

(01:39:04):
how to the quickest way to get to the highwayay
from there, and the gen Domes couldn't under didn't understand
the word highway and just you know, just kept directing
them to the little dirt road that the hotels in
front of. But the odd thing was is that they
paid the innkeeper you know, for their night's stay, which

(01:39:24):
was extremely cheap, you know, like you know, five francs
at the most, and that included the meal. This guy
took their money, took their you know, their their French money,
didn't even blink an eye, and nobody said anything about
this weird car. There are no other cars in the area,
by what they said, just their car.

Speaker 1 (01:39:44):
Don't take those, don't put tim Okay, if if they were,
everybody was getting around on horses right right, and you
have a car that you drove him there in part,
don't you think that people would be cocking and and
made getting a stake ready or two steaks exactly, putting
wood around it because they believed in witchcraft and have

(01:40:08):
a barbecue without the barbecuees off.

Speaker 4 (01:40:14):
Well, you know, according to their story, the date probably
would have been like maybe the early nineteen hundreds. Okay,
maybe the late eighteen hundreds, no more than that, all right,
But yes, you're exactly right though. You know, why first

(01:40:35):
of all, why wasn't everybody gawking if it was a
time slip event where they were in the past. Why
weren't people saying, what is that? What is that strange thing?
And why did they accept the money? You know, modern
money for payment. One of the things I forgot to mention,

(01:40:55):
you know, the story I talked about earlier about the
gas station that seemed to be a part of a
time bubble, is that another story with some people involved
in it. They tried to pay for some snacks and
the cashier would not accept the money because they said

(01:41:16):
it was counterfeit, and in fact got on the telephone
and was talking to an operator, you know, kind of like,
you know, Claire, get me the police department, rather than
dialing it themselves, you know, and that's and that kind
of freaked these people out. So they just left, you know,
left the money with them. But yeah, I mean, you know,
in that case, the money was a sticking point. But

(01:41:42):
with this case with the English couples in France, nobody
seemed to blink an eye about it, you know. So
you know, was this an actual going back in time
or going to a different reality? Yeah, but again if
it was a different reality, you know, again, why weren't

(01:42:04):
people you know talking at the car and why do
they accept the money? Well?

Speaker 1 (01:42:09):
Can I ask you a question if you went into
a hotel but you didn't have a car, and if
you went in in a hotel in twenty twenty five,
you know, in a rural area and you came dressed
as you know, like nineteen hundreds, aren't people going to
be looking at you?

Speaker 4 (01:42:26):
Oh yeah, definitely, Yeah, yeah, exactly. But again, the you know,
the people in the supposedly you know, past era, did
it seem to notice how odd these modern day you know,

(01:42:46):
English people, English vacationers seemed to be. So you know again,
is it would it be a case where their perception
of these vacationers were different than the reality that you know,

(01:43:09):
instead of seeing modern day vacationers, they were seeing something
that they would expect to be seen.

Speaker 1 (01:43:15):
That could be the possibility, because you know, I go
back to what happened with me and my kids again,
everybody in that place was staring and coking and talking,
you know, and I felt so uncomfortable. That's was my experience.
So maybe in the case like that or other cases,

(01:43:38):
when they look at you, they don't see you from
well whatever the year they were from, like twenty twenty
or nineteen ninety or whatever year they were from, they're
seeing them from the year that they're they're there. I
don't know. Yeah, right, that's a heavy that's a heavy
conversation right there. And it's not sac.

Speaker 4 (01:43:59):
It is it is. But obviously though, you know, in
your experience, there must have been something off. Why would
they be, you know, gawking at you. You know, if
if you looked, if you all look exactly like they did.

Speaker 1 (01:44:14):
So that in my case, in my case, if I
saw them and I saw the cars and everything, to
me look like wow, I and they're staring at us,
there's they They weren't seeing me dressed as them, you know,
for their era. They're they're seeing some something strange the

(01:44:36):
same way I was seeing something strange with them, right. Yeah,
you know, again, unless there was somebody putting on some
type of uh, you know, get together where everybody was
dressed twenty thirty years in the past and drove old
cars like that. But I tell you I would never
want to go back in that, you know, like a

(01:44:59):
week late. Honestly, we went back because my kid because
I wanted to get some more pictures up by the
Mount Rain ear of the falls waterfall, and naturally my
kids said I'll go if we can stop and get
that hamburger, because I have to be honestly, every time
I think about it was a huge hamburger back even
then it was huge, and you know, and we drove

(01:45:22):
by back and forth, back and forth. I couldn't find it.
And when I stopped at the little store down by
the state park, I mentioned to the clerk, I said,
you know, we stopped last week at this diner that
you know, when I was a little kid my parents
used to stop at. And she looked at me kind

(01:45:42):
of turned funny color and set that place burnt down
years ago. And when she said that, it really it
bothered me. So when we went back, sure enough, there
was ruins of something that burnt down. There was blocks,
concrete and a bunch of you know, it was something
that looked like a business or a building burnt down.

(01:46:04):
At one point. It was there when I was driving
up and down. I was looking for the diner. But
that that that that is a weird thing. Like I said,
I wonder, tim how many people have had these things
and for some reason, you know, they went missing and
never made it back, or they ended up somewhere in
limble that would even be worse, or they're not back

(01:46:28):
in their current time frame and they're kind of like
you know, a glitch somewhere on a computer.

Speaker 4 (01:46:36):
Well, you know, I signed talked about how we all
have our own personal timelines in space time. So uh,
and you know you're you're there for you know, your
period of time and then you're gone. But like you said,
what if something happens and you get off that track?

(01:46:57):
What if you get off that timeline? You know, do
you become stuck in a timeless state, you know, never
realizing that you're in a ballble some place, or do
you just cease to exist.

Speaker 1 (01:47:10):
That could be a that you just right there, you
maybe don't exist anymore, right right?

Speaker 4 (01:47:15):
You know? You know I was going to say, you know,
when you found the location where there's just you know,
like some blocks and stuff, if it had been a
Twilight Zone episode, you would have found your money, you know,
neatly folded on top of the rockers.

Speaker 1 (01:47:31):
Well, I tell you it's still you know what, Tim,
It still bothers me when I think about it, and
it's still even like my one son with me passed away.
But my other son and we talk about it ever
so often. We'll see something movie or something and we'll say,
you know, you know, when we were going up to
Mount Rare and we start talking about it. It's eerie.

(01:47:51):
It affects you for the rest of your life. It
makes you realize there's more to this life, this world
than we even can compare hand.

Speaker 4 (01:48:02):
Oh. Absolutely. And you know, I just recently ran across
the story very you know, very similar to yours, where
this couple had stopped at this diner at an unexpected
location at night. They went in. There was nobody else there,
but they said that the diner was very futuristic looking.

(01:48:24):
It was like all metal, the plates, the silverware was
the Civil War, they said, was like very fine, like thin,
delicate types of metal, the plates, the waitress. There was
only one waitress. She was dressed all in white and

(01:48:45):
took their orders. The food was great. They paid, They
left like they decided they wanted to stop there. Again
later nothing there, and in fact, there had never been
anything there any time in the past, so you know,
they were left to wonder whether or not. It was

(01:49:06):
like a like a weird UFO type of experience, you know.
But again it's that same type of story that we
hear time and time again, just like yours. You know,
there are differences, but it's like the plot is basically
the same, the framework is the same. You know, the

(01:49:26):
details can be altered, you know, for each experience.

Speaker 1 (01:49:30):
I think, yeah, But you know, if you really think
about this, this type of stories has been going on
long before there was internet. It goes back for centuries
and centuries and centuries. You know, our time is up
and when I get you on, we weren't like in
a time warp. You know that. Now do you have
a what's your latest book? How can they find your books?

(01:49:53):
And do you have a website? And also where can
they find your great podcasts?

Speaker 4 (01:49:59):
Sure? Well the podcast I'm a co host on the
Paracast with Gene Steinberg and it can be found on practically,
you know, all of your favorite UH streaming platforms, you know, Apple, Spotify,
and Brest. Its website is actually the Peracast dot com.

(01:50:21):
T H E P A R A c A s
T dot com. Very simple. Uh. My latest book is
called Weird Time. That's why we're here tonight talking about
Weird Time. But it's called Weird Time Exploring the Mysteries
of Time and Space. And uh uh we have a
lot of great people who contributed to this book, like

(01:50:45):
Seawan Castio and Nigel Watson and Scott Carrals just some
fantastic you know, people with a just it's it's just
full of great information about the mysteries of time and space.
And uh, the website for it, you can find it
at the Weird Weird Time Book dot com dot the

(01:51:08):
ors Weird Timebook dot com. And uh uh you can
find information on how to get in touch with myself
and the other writers you know at that location. Uh.
But you know, if you want to go around that,
I mean, you know, you can always email me at
t R. Sworts at gmail dot com. That's that's probably

(01:51:30):
a quick way, And all my other books you can
find on Amazon.

Speaker 1 (01:51:34):
Well, Tim, I want you to have a great Mother's
Day hopefully. Ye Bob Flowers, I forgot. I didn't even realize.
Don't tell my wife you might be listening, but I
didn't realize it to a couple of hours ago when
my daughter came up and she goes, you didn't keep
mom anything for Mother's Day.

Speaker 4 (01:51:56):
Well, you know, with my wife, she actually if I
would do something like that, you would say, I'm not
your mother.

Speaker 1 (01:52:03):
Yeah, well mine she is. Yeah, well mine treats me
like she's my mother anyway, too. I want you to
have a great weekend with left of it. Okay, my friend,
And thank you for coming back on.

Speaker 4 (01:52:16):
My pleasure. Gary. I always have such a fun time
talking with you. And uh, you know, anytime you want
me back just live you.

Speaker 1 (01:52:23):
Know, well, we're gonna call you back up and have
you back on. Okay, my friend, You take.

Speaker 4 (01:52:28):
Care all right, good night, nown Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:52:30):
Jac What do we got coming up next week? What's
going on?

Speaker 3 (01:52:34):
Well, we got all kind of good stuff going on,
but let me see, starting off on the fifteenth, we've
got mister Richard Beckwith coming on and he's gonna let
us know about his new book Need to Know Law
and Practice of American Society or Secrecy rather.

Speaker 1 (01:52:51):
Yeah, what else we got and then we don't have.

Speaker 3 (01:52:54):
A show next Friday, but we do have a show
on the seventeenth with mister Danny Newman. Is Newman gonna
be talking about psychedelics and the afterlife?

Speaker 1 (01:53:03):
Well maybe if you use the wrong psychedelics, you might
have a after life really fast.

Speaker 4 (01:53:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:53:09):
Anyway, it's like I guess I use like a tool
to tap into. It's pretty fascinating stuff. You'll like them.

Speaker 1 (01:53:14):
Yeah. Well, we had a couple other people about those
subjects too in the past, haven't we.

Speaker 3 (01:53:19):
Yeah, very similar?

Speaker 1 (01:53:20):
Yeah, oh yeah, you got anything planned for tomorrow?

Speaker 3 (01:53:25):
Well, after the Mother's Day get together, I am going
to try to go fishing and land. As you know,
there's an eight pounder that I've been feeding but I
haven't been able to land him yet. I've got a
six and a seven, but this I'm going to try
to get him this year.

Speaker 4 (01:53:40):
Gary.

Speaker 1 (01:53:41):
Yeah, I've been hearing that for eight years now. I
hear you.

Speaker 3 (01:53:45):
I get his little brothers, the sixers and the fibers,
but the eight are You did straighten out my hooks
last year, but I got bigger hooks.

Speaker 1 (01:53:51):
Okay. Well, again I want to apologize one of the
computer's malfunction and I you know again, I'm so dependent
on you know, technology. If one of the computers fail.
I physically couldn't bring the video feed on. Thank god
we still had the audio feed, but the video feed
wouldn't go on. And I apologize to that. You had

(01:54:12):
to look at my face for almost two hours. And
I apologize for that. Boy. You know, I tell you
my mouth is I had oral surgery done here the
other day, and I tell you my mouth is killing me.
And you know, between that and the heart attacks and all,
you know, I don't want to be old.

Speaker 4 (01:54:33):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:54:35):
I don't need thirty seven.

Speaker 3 (01:54:38):
You know you're now.

Speaker 1 (01:54:40):
Wait a minute, now, I don't need thirty seven.

Speaker 3 (01:54:45):
Well, get over two surgery and you're talking for two
three hours. That's not a good idea for healing.

Speaker 1 (01:54:52):
Yeah. I had a craving yesterday. Are you ready for this?

Speaker 6 (01:54:56):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:54:56):
It wasn't about sex, you know. It was I want
a big old cigar. Oh god, I wanted a cigar
so bad. I was craving a cigar. I haven't smoked
a cigar for four years. I haven't smoked anything for
four years. Nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:55:14):
You want to get a dry sock on steroids? You
just smoked that cigar, mister.

Speaker 1 (01:55:18):
Yeah again, uh barb and all that. I want to
thank you for being a friend, and Andrew out there
and whoever else was out there. Again. I want to
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