UFOs And Mufon Attorney Richard Beckwith Call In Andrew D. Basiago

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Like the stuff of science fiction, conspiracy theories, and late
night coffee fueled fever dreams. In the labs deep inside
the quantum realm, researchers say they have found a way
to reverse time. Yes, rewind it, but not for you
or me, not yet, not for the everyday tick of

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clocks on your walls. No, they're talking about the tiniest
building blocks of reality, photons and particles smaller than atoms
being made to flow backward along their timeline. It's like
they found the rewind button on the universe's remote control.
The implications, oh very enormous. Imagine computers that don't just

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process information but undo their own mistakes like magic. Imagine
systems that could manipulate time itself, bending the very fabric
of cause and effect. And if that's true with the
quantum level, what's stuffing someone somewhere from figuring out how
to do it on a larger scale. What if this

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is the first step toward controlling time, the first domino
to fall in a cascade that could rewrite history. Literally. Now,
before you dismiss this as mere lab talk or fancy math,
listen closely. These scientists admit they're just scratching the surface.
But history shows us one thing. Breakthroughs like these have

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a way of escaping the lab and changing the world,
whether we're ready or not. Could governments be hiding projects
already tapping into this quantum time trickery? Could this be
the technology behind strange disappearances, unexplained events, or even the
manipulation of historical moments. The shadows are deep and dark, folks,

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and this is a flesh light beam slicing through the darkness.
So as the clock keeps ticking and scientists tinker with
time itself, remember this. Allegedly time waits for no one,
but now time might just be waiting for us. Stay

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tuned because on Night Dreams Talk Radio, we're not just
going to talk about the future. We're going to question it,
challenge it, and maybe just maybe change it. For Night
Dreams Talk Radio, I'm guide Ticker, reminding you to keep
your eyes open and your mind even wider. The lines

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are open. Call in now and tell us what you
think about this time bending breakthrough. Come on, call us,
we've got the time. Are we on the verge of
something truly world changing? Or are we playing with forces
we don't understand? Don't hang up, the conversation is just

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getting started, and remember Gary, we will be back on
the air in no time. He'll be back in mid September.
Richard Warren Beckwith is a highly accomplished attorney with a
diverse and eclectic background spanning law, microbiology, and media. Currently

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serving as the City Attorney for Rock Springs, Wyoming, he
brings a wealth of experience and expertise to his role.
He is the Wyoming State director for the mutual ufone
Network Moufon and a member of the Muffon International Board
of Directors. He is the host of the official Muffon Podcast.
He's been investigating UFOs for more than fifty years and

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professionally for nearly twenty. Beckwith earned a Bachelor of Science
degree in molecular biology from the University of Wyoming and
a Juris doctorate from the University of Wyoming College of Law.
His legal career has included roles as principal partner in
a prestigious local law firm, general council to doctor Stephen
Grier's Orion Project, and legal council to the Muffan Board

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of Directors. As a skilled litigator and negotiator, he's handled
a wide range of legal matters, including criminal defense, construction litigation,
complex civil litigation, real estate law, administrative and agency law,
labor and employment law, non disclosure agreements. Prior to his
legal career, Beckwith worked as a microbiologist studying the leeching

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of selenium in soil, as a lab technician in a
molecular virology lab attempting to isolate a plant protein related
to the human immune response, as a lab technician in
a molecular genetics laboratory searching for the ore of seratia,
and as a lab technician in an atmospheric microbiology laboratory

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studying atmospheric bacteria populations. His diverse background includes experience as
a professional musician and broadcaster, serving as a program director,
production director, news director, and air personality for numerous broadcasting organizations.
As an active member of the legal community, Beckwe has

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held numerous leadership positions in the Sweetwater County Bar Association
and as a member of the Wyoming Bar Association and
the American Bar Association. With his unique blend of legal expertise,
scientific knowledge, and media experience, Richard Warren Beckwith continues to
make significant contributions to the UFO UAP community and beyond.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Well, Richard, I'm glad to have you back on the show,
you know what. And I listened to your bio and
I listened to mine, you know occasionally that I sent
out and I go, oh, gee, you've complished a lot
in your life.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Well, I appreciate that, Gary. I just I think there
are probably a lot of words in that media bio.
I think the substance may not be as as you know,
impressive as the as the sound of it, at least
not not to me. But you know, there are certainly

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considerably better lawyers than I am out there, and certainly
lawyers out there like like my personal hero Daniel Shean,
who are you know, not only better lawyers, but much
more knowledgeable about the area of UAPs and UFOs. But
I really appreciate your your compliments.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Well, you know, I'm really frustrated, and it started last week.
You know, I've been ill lately, and so I've been
listening to a lot of podcasts. And one thing I
learned from my late friend Art Bell, don't listen to
other shows. It'll you know, it'll cause damage to you.
And so I always done that. I've never really listened
to what's going on. I just do my own thing.

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But you know, I just you know, I was bored.
I started tuning into all these different podcasts, and then
I made the mistake going to TikTok and and I'll
tell you what. The people in upology, a lot of
them are coming out of the woodwork. And I'm not
talking about good people. I'm talking about people wanting to

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have clickbaits or they need medication. It's gotten really bad,
some of the claims they're making.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah, well, I agree with that. I think there's been
a proliferation of things on the Internet, and in particular
on the video platforms and so forth. There's been just
a massive proliferation of these kinds of programs. And I
think what helps for me is to try to stick
with names with which I am familiar regarding how and

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where I get my information. And there are very narrow
number of people that I trust, you know, to a
certain extent. I don't necessarily trust anyone explicitly, because I've
been practicing law for thirty one years and you sort
of learned, you know, that trust is hard to come

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by sometimes. But you know, when I certainly have a
lot of respect for Jacques Valet, for George Knapp, Jeremy Corbell,
researchers of that ILK. I have a lot of respect
in spite of, you know, some of the negative things
that have been said lately. I have a lot of
respect for Lou Alizondo and certainly for Chris Mellen, and

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for those individuals that well, at least as far as
Lou is concerned, and these others that I've had direct
contact with, and so I you know, when it comes
to all these podcasts and so forth. In my opinion,
I think I mentioned this to you before we were
on the air, and it's sort of the wild wild West,
so to speak. It's a wide open frontier out there

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for people who want to cash in. And you know,
I don't know if you remember this or not, but
I think back when the Internet was somewhat younger, there
were the two top topics on the Internet were sex
and Ufost wrote well, and Bigfoot's always a big one too,

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And you know, so people have always been curious about
that sort of thing. And now that, uh, the Internet
has expanded and you were discussing just a moment with
James about the the artificial intelligence and the proliferation of
the use of artificial intelligence, that these programs are now
taking advantage of that and just spewing out all sorts

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of stuff. And so there's no question that we as
human beings are inundated constantly with I mean, you can
open up your brain and turn the faucet on and
just let it run into your brain if you want.
I mean, there's some much information out there that the that
the human mind simply cannot comprehend it, just just as

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we cannot comprehend the speed at which we are technologically
evolving and advancing. I do have to sort of I
don't want to necessarily disagree or take issue with what
you were talking about earlier, but I do think that

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artificial intelligence causes human beings to think in a fundamentally
different way, just as just as cell phones did when
they came around, just as any kind of new technology does.
And there will always be There will always be the masses,
you know. I Absent some sort of cataclysm that wipes

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out billions of U set a time, like an asteroid
or just destroys the earth or something, there will there
will always be the masses. And I'm I don't I
don't want to you know, I hate to break it
to you, but most people aren't smart. You know, I
think that the average IQ.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Are you talking about politicians and wallet how Washington right now?

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Well, all you have to do is look at politicians
in Washington, d C. Right now to make it clear
that you know, you don't have to be the sharpest
tool in the shed to lead a bunch of people around.
All you have to what I have found, and I
have some political experience, is all you have to do
is be the loudest monkey in the room. You have

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to get reelected to offer you be the loudest monkey
in the room, and you make the most gestures and
you just tell everybody that you're smarter than everybody else,
and you just keep saying it over and over again,
and pretty soon and really this is this is true
across the board. And I think that it's just simply
a matter of how human beings are psychologically wired. We

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are sort of wired to follow those who we believe
probably have all the answers because there's something inside of
us that says there's got to be something somebody smarter
than me.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Here's the thing about AI. I got to ask you,
as you be an attorney and go into court. There
was a case in King County back a couple of
years ago where a guy did a robbery, shot and
killed somebody. It was on videotape, but it was kind
of scratchy and not good. So one of the people
in the court decided he was going to clean it
up with AI to you know, to make it, you know,

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more visible. In that the case was thrown out because
the judge looked at it and said, well, you know,
I can't trust it now because it was you used
AI on it. Is that going to cause a problem
in the future.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Well, well it could, but as you may not be aware.
As lawyers, when you introduce evidence, you have to lay
a foundation for that evidence. And I'm not familiar with
the case that you're talking about, but what I would
say is that there was an improper found laid okay,
and so what probably should have happened is that the

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original video would have to be shown and there would
have to be a foundation for when and how that
video was taken, who took it, what kind of mechanism
was used there, and all depending on you know, how
detailed things get. They can start talking about the lenses
that were used and all these other sorts of things,
and you know, the common uses of video cameras and

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so forth, and then lay a foundation for you know,
using artificial intelligence to clear up the image and explain
how that was done and what exactly the AI program,
whatever it was, how exactly it determined how to clean
up the image, and if that was done correctly and properly,

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it's possible that that evidence could have been introduced. Now,
the prosecutor in that case may be listening right now
and be saying, BS man, I did all that stuff.
But that's just my that's just my opinion, not being
familiar with the case. But any you know, you can
get in a lot of different kinds of evidence, even
even evidence that has you know, for example, been been

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created as the result of gathering mathematical information. You can
get evidence in it's called demonstrative evidence that has been
produced by an expert or produced at the behest of
an expert. And so although it is not although the
images or other things that are produced are not necessarily

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you know, direct images of what happened, this demonstrative evidence
can be introduced. And I think that maybe there may
have been some difficulty in introducing that demonstrative demonstrative evidence
where I see artificial intelligence causing the greatest problem what
I've seen so far, especially, it looks to me like,
you know, there are current high members of the Department

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of Justice that are more than happy to use phony
artificially intelligently created briefs to submit to federal district courts,
and they look very dimly on that. And you know,
the use of artificial intelligence in law and the drafting
of legal documents is also proliferating. And there are you know, well,

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as in any profession, there are like doctors. You know,
there are really good doctors, and there are guys like
doctor Nick from the Simpsons. They all have medical degrees.
What do you call the last guy in his class
to graduate from medical school? You call him doctor. And
it's the same way with lawyers. There are really really

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good lawyers out there who cross all of their eyes,
across all of their t's, and dot all of their
eyes and follow up and make sure that all of
their citations are to the appropriate authorities, and that the
the reasons for the introduction of the of that particular

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quote or whatever, that the reasons are supported by the authority,
that you are citing, and that's a mistake that a
lot of you know. You can. I have artificially intelligent
software in my office. We have a rather extensive library
thanks to west Law, which is, you know, between west

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Law and Lexus are the most popular sources of legal materials.
West Law almost has a monopoly, if you will, on
any number of legal sources, statutes and so forth. But
they also have the ability to create things using artificial intelligence.

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But I can tell you that my experience with them
is that it's wrong, especially if you ask it a
question that you already know the answer to or at
least have some good idea based on your legal training,
that the answer that it comes up with isn't always correct.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Well, you know, Richard, I'm gonna be honest with you,
what you heard my newscast tonight. I write all the
news casts for the show, and then I have my
guy do it. And you know tonight because I forgot
it to do it because I was in the dentist
being tortured yesterday. I quickly used AAI and it generated

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that and I sent it to him. The thing is,
you have to know how to use AI. You had
to know it, and if you don't know how to
use it the right way, you're going to get garbage.
If you know how to use it. You got what
I produced, and that is.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
And I was just going to say that that goes
to your h to your earlier point, and and and
and also adds to the point that I was sort
of trying to make, which is that, uh, you know,
kids today, you know, the next generations will exist with
artificial intelligence and the way in which we communicate, the

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way in which we create things as human beings, all
of those things that we've done for millions of years
will change fundamentally, but there will always and I think
I was making a point about how most people are stupid,
but they're all There are always humans who are super
smart and who will eventually figure out all of these

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tools and use them to their advantage, and they will
be the ones that set the tone for the future. So,
in my opinion, artificial intelligence certainly does pose a potential threat,
and I think that ultimately the only way that we

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can avoid that potential threat is by merging with artificial
intelligence such that we become you know, essentially, you know,
almost from the moment we're orn exposed to the entire
knowledge of humankind.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Well, that's what's going to happen. You know, remember those
old movies like Blade Runner and all that stuff, and
you know, the whole society is run by you know,
a computer AI intelligent. We're going that route and people
don't realize it. If you don't adapt to it. In
a few years from now, you're going to be history.

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I'm talking about You're not going to fit into society.
I'm talking maybe three to five years from now. That's
how fast it's advancing. And it's really scary how in
just a year, like chat for example, has evolved in
a year's time to what it is now. And you know,
here's again in upology, AI is now causing a lot

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of well put it this way, fake this, fake that.
And you know again, all my life besides being in radio,
I was a professional photographer too, and you know, in
the dark room with film and all that stuff, and
a shop for major magazines at one point. Here's another thing. Nowadays,

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you can create fake UFOs to the point you can't
even hardly distinguish it's fake. I'm not talking about the
average person getting on the computer doing it. Somebody it
has a little bit of knowledge behind it. That is
where the scary part comes in, right now.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah, well, and well not just that, but they're able to,
you know, essentially create a whole new reality. But in
my view, if you it is still more than possible
and really quite easy to get to the truth. And
you know, when it comes to UFO photographs, my philosophy

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is regardless of how they were produced, that the better
they are, the more I question them, you know, because
you certainly can produce excellent UFO photograph. You can even
take an existing photograph and put a UFO in it.
But you know, one of the as you are probably aware,
one of the things that comes out of that, if

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you really want to, you know, pass something off like that,
then the EXIF data better be consistent with the image.
And so there may be some software out there that's
able to produce an image and then produce false EXIF data.
That might be a problem, but I still think, especially
if you talk to guys like Mark Dantonio, a friend

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of mine, he would probably say that that it will
still be a fairly easy task for some time in
the future to be able to determine whether or not
an image is authentic or not. And a lot of
that comes from, you know, having multiple witnesses maybe who
are there at the time the image of you know,
was taken. But again I agree with you, Gary, I

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think that that you know, it's easier and easier to
fool people these days. But again, you know, people for
the most part, you know, the I think the average
IQ of most people is around one hundred or just below,
so about a ninety five or one hundred is the
average intelligence, you know. And then you have what you

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call the Dunning Kruger effect, where people who are very
knowledgeable and are you know, usually pretty intelligent, always assume
that everyone around them is just as intelligent, if not
more intelligent than they are, and so they have a
tendency to sort of keep their mouth shut. But the
people that are you know, down around you know, eighty

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five ninety ninety five, they're actually of the belief that
and this is just if you look at that Dunning
Krueger graph, they they believe that they're the smartest guys
in the room. And you know, and you see that
when you have people starting to dismiss science, like you know,
the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration, you just dismissing scientific

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All these eggheads, they don't know what they're talking about.
All this it's just all made up, you know. It's
the It's kind of the same thing as uh, you know,
the flat earth theory.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
You know, yeah, but don't mention it.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
But but I am, well, I am, I am you know,
true to science and the scientific method. And so you
know that that is the approach that I take and
the approach that Moufon takes, which is you know, in
my view, essential to to figuring out the UFO U
a P mystery. The problem though, as we progress through this, Gary,

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is that is that one of the conclusions that I'm
coming to is that, uh, maybe it's not aliens at all.
And and maybe what we're talking about here because we
you know, we keep hearing about non human intelligences and
they certainly are here, and and but are they really

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truly from somewhere else? Is it possible that we're dealing
with simply a higher form of intelligence of which we
have been unaware, you know, throughout the existence of humanity,
And just now these entities, these non human intelligences, are
beginning to introduce themselves for one reason or another. It

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may be. And what frightens me is the possibility that
this may be the end of the experiment. That you know,
what happens when you grow a monster in a fish
tank and that monster remains forever unaware of your presence,
but at some point begins to become aware that someone

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is keeping it in a fish tank. And what does
that monster do when it escapes? And we may be
the monsters, We may have been, as you know, genetically,
you know, manipulated or and perhaps even create it. Although
I do have to say that based upon my my

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experience in in science and in particular and molecular biology,
we are as a species intimately tied to this planet.
Our biology is intimately tied to the to the orbit
of the moon, and the and the the tie the
ocean tides. We are we have genes in common with

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the most fundamental organisms on the planet, including plants. We
have very as I discussed before, I think that we
actually have some gene sequences that are consistent with plants,
and so that that's what they call they're what they
call highly conserved sequences, which you know, stem or come

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from as far back as when living organisms on the
Earth were all basically one thing, you know, the first
original living cells that began to produce reprice using DNA,
and we actually have or sell or gene sequences in
our bodies that go back to that primordial time, you know.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
So yeah, but you know, when I think about things, Richard,
you know, we are not advanced civilization at all. We
really aren't yet at this point. And you know, I've
talked to so many people after fifty some years doing
what I do, and you know, so many people are naive.
They just think that we are the only living creatures period.

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And think about how many billions of planets there are
out there that have life. And again, we could be
a baby, our planet could be nothing more than a baby.
Where another solar system, another one planets or you know,
Middle aged and they have you know, been all over
the different galaxies and have figured out how to do it.

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So I really think we are being visited. But I
do also think too, after having Mityo Kaku on the
show a couple of years ago, we're still close to
cracking the next dimension and then the next dimension that
life could be existing right in your living room right
now while you're sitting there talking to me, and you

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would never see it in our dimension.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
Yeah, no, I agree with that, you know, there is
most recently, there's been a lot of talk about K
two eighteen B Kepler K two eighteen B and a
planet they've discovered that has an abundance of DMS, or

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dimethyl sulfide in the atmosphere. And as far as we know,
DMS only comes from the biological processes of living things,
in particular ocean plankton and so. And this is what
they think may be what they call a high sea
in world, which is a world which is completely covered

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by water, or at least has a large water ocean.
The planet's a little bit larger than the Earth, but
it has this abundance of dimethyl sulfide in the atmosphere,
and the only way that we're aware of that that
can be created is by these biological processes. So I
find that, as a matter of fact, I think they're
saying now that that particular planet K two eighteen B

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is the most likely suspect we have right now for
another planet in our galaxy that has life. But again,
we'll never be able to get there, not in our lifetimes,
unless unless we get to be buddies with the Zeta
reticulans and they give us some give us a ride

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there and show us wait a minute.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Look, I've had people on the show and back through
the years that said they have been right.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
I've heard that, you know, and I think we may
even had a discussion in one of the earlier appearances
I had about the friendship cases in Italy and it
was basically a series of mass contacts. And there's actually
a book out there, a couple of books out there

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by a guy named Stefano Breccia, and Paula Harris knows
these folks. I think Stephano may have passed away recently,
but he was an engineer that wrote extensively about these
mass contacts that occurred in Italy, in particular in and
around Pascara, Italy in the late nineteen fifties and early
nineteen sixties. And these contacts were taking place between human

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human like entities and the local people in Piscara. There
was a writer named sam I want to say, Samichica,
Bruno Samichica, and he had a number of friends and
they had these ongoing contacts with these aliens and they
claimed to be, uh, you know, representative of human like aliens.

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All over the universe, that they're not just from one
place in the galaxy or anything like that, that they
were from all over the universe, and that that they
were at constant, in constant conflict with a group of
aliens that they called the contraries, which in my view
appear to be the Grays.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
And so it.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Almost it's almost like the Federation versus the Ferenghi, because
the Grays are are so materialistic and and uh and
and have a particular interest in certain qualities that humans have,
in particular our possession of a soul, and that's why
they call us containers. But that but but these contacts
took place, and I think if you I would encourage

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your readers to get those books from Stephano Breccia. One
is called Mass Contact uh and and it and it
basically chronicles these contacts between these you know, human like
entities they had. They had bases all over the all
over the world, and they were able to form these
bases using a particular gravitational mechanism. So whenever they would

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build a base, they could build it miles underground using
this technology. But they didn't it didn't require any sort
of excavation equipment or anything like that. This this mechanism
would simply cause a space to open up in whatever
shape and location and size that these aliens wanted it
to appear. And so they could they could construct a base.

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They had one in particular into the mediterran terranean sea
that was like four hundred kilometers deep, but was you know,
four hundred four hundred kilometers high, and and was just
as huge. It was even so big that it would,
according to the witnesses, it would even it even had weather,
so it would even even rain. But then when they

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when they would close these bases, all they would do
is turn the mechanism off, and the the the Earth
would simply returned to the state in which it existed
before the mechanism was activated. And so they so they're
the entrances to and from these bases. You'll never find
one because they don't exist. They they create them as

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they need them, just as they and this may be
true of a number of the of the visitors, but
they also create their spacecraft or whatever the craft is,
ocean craft or whatever as they need them. And so
they keep the basic components and maybe even they may
even have molecular machines that manufacture these these craft as

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they need them, and then when they're no longer needed,
they are simply returned to their basic components. But their computers,
and of course they're their artificial intelligence is so powerful
that they're able to accomplish these sorts of things, and
so people don't really think about, you know, well, they're
really advanced technologically, but when you start looking at the

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kinds of things they apparently can do, then it's clear
that they're almost, from our perspective, almost godlike, although it
would take quite a bit for me to, you know,
assign a godlike stature to any living thing in the universe.
You know, I think, if anything, we're just perhaps behind evolutionarily.

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But nonetheless, you can take any technology that human beings
have and then extrapolate that technology out, you know, a
thousand years. And so right now, think about it for
a second. You know, consider about, you know, our ability
to manipulate genetic material. Right now, we have this crisper

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technology and that is closely related interspersed palindromic repeats, something
of that nature, and these this crisper technology can be
used to excise specific genes that we like, even to
even to help in the creation of gene sequences. You

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can create a gene suite sequence and then use Crisper
to insert that gene sequence into any living organism. And
so we have the ability right now to with our
own present technology, to create just about any kind of
organism that you can dream up. I would encourage your
readers to also or your listeners to also look at

(34:31):
a book or read a book by doctor Dowdina, who
was one on the team that created the Crisper technology
from which the COVID vaccines were directed.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
But Richard, that is so scary that our technology is
going that way because it going at the radio's going.
What do you think it'll be like in five years
from now?

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Well, well, let me let me say that I'm not
scared and and it is it is perhaps scary to
think about it, but in my opinion this is all
a natural part of evolution that it may very well
be that. Well, but but Gary misused in whose judgment?

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Well look what Hitler did. He was trying to create, right,
a race of new you know what I mean? Could
somebody at this point down the road want to create
a super human.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Well, you may be a little bit behind because I'm
aware of people who have perhaps been genetically manipulated to
participate in super soldier programs. Uh and and so, which
is a a whole different topic. But I think that
you can count on the not only the possibility, but
the but the fact that you know, this sort of

(36:01):
work is already being done.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah, I'm talking though from birth, I mean even before birth,
when conception comes to modify and create. That's what I'm
really scared now, because our time is running fast. Move
on and things about move on? What do you want
to cover?

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Well, we just had the symposium in Cincinnati two weeks
ago and it was great. I enjoyed it. Our speaker
was Thomas Jane and you're familiar. You probably had have
you had Thomas on the.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Show, He's been on multiple times.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Yeah, So we had Thomas Jane as our as our
keynote speaker, and he gave a pretty good presentation and
uh and it was it was good. We also the
other thing that we did was had some more discussion
about some strange pieces of material that we've been receiving

(37:00):
from researchers in Moscow. And your readers can or I
want to see your listeners can read about that online
and there was a discussion, quite a bit of discussion
about it. It appears recently that some of the materials
sent to us, which we believe could possibly be of
extraterrestrial origin. I don't want to say that it is,

(37:21):
but some of the pieces that were sent to our
director of investigations International Investigations, was intercepted at the post office.
He received a box, and the postmaster at this particular
post office put the box that contained the materials into
the mailbox personally. So we know that the box that

(37:47):
was sent to our director of International Investigations was sent
to him from or from a source in Russia. And
then some time after it was placed in the mailbox
at the post office, it disappeared.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
I wonder why.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
And then all of a sudden there's a discussion on
the internet about strange materials that may have been intercepted
by or may be in the possession of. I think
it's the NSA or somebody like that. So I don't
want to accuse any governmental agencies. All I can tell
you is that that piece of material disappeared from that mailbox,

(38:25):
and I don't know, you know how that happened. I
can't say for sure that you know there were government
agents involved or anything like that, but you know, you
know as well as I do that whenever things, you know,
whenever people start to talk about the potential for materials
of unknown origin, that the hairs on the back of

(38:46):
the necks of the intelligence community immediately stand up. And
even if the claims aren't necessarily substantiated or all that
good or all that credible, nonetheless action is perhaps warranted.
And so that was one of the things that took

(39:10):
place as the result of some of the investigations Moufon
has been doing. But we're undergoing some changes right now.
I have to say that I'm really proud of the board.
We have an excellent board right now. I was in
addition to Dave McDonald and Debbie Zigelmeyer and Barbara Subonni Sabanni,

(39:33):
who was also who is John Schusler's daughter. John Schusler
was the executive director for many years. We also have
Rob Swyetec from the he was worked at the Patent
Office for many many years. And my good friend John Harrison,

(39:54):
who is also a friend of Stan roman X and
who just retired from the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. He has
multiple degrees and brings a lot of knowledge and expertise
to the board. So I'm really proud of the of
the of the board we have right now. It's a
good solid collection of folks and we all seem to

(40:16):
be on the same page relative to Muffon's mission, which
is the scientific study of UFOs for the benefit of humanity,
and we are we are committed, each and every one
of us to that mission.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Now, there's something else I think you wanted to talk
about here before the time was up.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
Oh yeah, well, yeah, I wanted to talk a little
bit about Stan Romanek, and I know that you know,
I guess I wanted to make people aware that this
will be coming up, and if you haven't heard already,
but I want to make folks aware that I'm going
to be talking about this.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Well, tell everybody who what he did?

Speaker 3 (40:52):
Okay, all right, Well Stan Romanec. Some of you may
or may not remember him, but Stan Romanek became famous
in the nineties, I think, for he recorded the alien
in the Window that popped its head up, and you
can see you can watch it on the internet right now.
You can get on YouTube and just look up Stan Romanek,

(41:13):
Alien in Window and everybody said he faked it, and
basically it's a it's a The video is of Stan
recording he felt like he was being visited, and all
kinds of stuff, and it's a recording that Stan made
of this alien head popping itself up in the in
the window. And then the end, when the alien head
pops up, it blinks. Well, that's not fake, that's real, okay.

(41:38):
And anyway, that's how Stan became famous and or how
he became well known. He was on the Tonight Show
and all kinds of stuff. People were just really interested
in it because he had he had some other videos
as well, and he had all kinds of things that
had been documented that it happened to him for many
many years around his house, you know, UFOs hovering over

(41:59):
his house, hovering over his car. And I can tell
you that these things still continue to happen to Stan.
The worst thing that happened to Stan was that he
was convicted of possession of child pornography several years ago,
and as a result of that, Stan was essentially completely
abandoned by the UFO community, because who wants to hang

(42:21):
out with somebody that you know, that you know has
these tendencies. But there's been some great investigative journalistic work
being done by a gal named Stacy Lynn, and your
listeners can find her facebook page on Facebook. Her name
is Stacy Lynn, and she has done a crack job

(42:42):
on Stan's case. And so we and some of us
who stuck with Stan through all of this, always knew
that Stan was just not the kind of person that
would do this thing. But we now believe, and I
now believe that I am of the opinion that Stan
was framed by a cadre of bad Loveland, Colorado cops

(43:05):
who just didn't like what he was doing. I can
name names, we know when it happened, where it happened,
and who did it. These images got on Stan's computer
because they were placed on the computer after the computer
was put into police custody. And so I'm going to
be having Stacy Lynn on my podcast, the Mofon podcast

(43:29):
in a couple of weeks. We're going to do an
in depth interview and she's going to bring with her
all these documents, including a forensic report that said specifically
that there was no pornography on Stand's computer. Now, a
lot of people will say, well that you know, well,
this is just a conspiracy theory and so forth. Now
we know who, what, when, where, and how all this

(43:52):
stuff was done. And in my opinion, it may not
necessarily have had something to do with some sort of
a like a clandestine government agency that just wanted to
shut stand up. I think that these that this particular
cadre of bad cops in Loveland, Colorado, that they chose

(44:13):
individuals like Stan that they didn't like and they just
framed them for things. And and I think that that
Stan is not the only victim of this particular cadre
of bad cops. And again I could name names, I'm
not going to do that, but I just I just
want to make it clear that I would like to
see Stan get some of his life back. You know,

(44:33):
he had to go into a he went to a
halfway house for quite a while. Uh, he got bedbugs.
He was chewed alive by bedbugs. Basically, he got an infection.
He had to be hospitalized. Uh, he has to use
a walker now, you know. And Stan didn't deserve any
of the stuff that happened to him. And and really

(44:56):
I can also tell you from my own experience that's
and still has things happening to him all the time.
At one point, you know, he sent me and he
sends these things to me. He'll say, Man, you'll never
guess what happened today. You know, not every day, but
you know, every few months or so, I'll get something there.
You know, we'll talk. And he had a shadow person

(45:18):
living in his house. I have a video of a
shadow person in his house. You know, UFO is hovering
above his house. Uh, weird things landing in his backyard,
and weird little footprints leading up to his up to
his backyard, in his back door. So anyway, go ahead,
garretty minute.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
I was going to say, some people are prone to that.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
Ya.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
I know a person right now. It's the same type
of thing there they you know, I've seen one UFO
in my entire life.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
And you know, then there's people out there who's seeing
multiples and see ets or shattlement on you know, quite often.
So I don't know if maybe they can see through
another dimension. I think that maybe some of this stuff
is slipping through and where me and you and the
rest of the people don't see it, but there's a
few people out there it can see it. It reminds

(46:09):
me of a movie. I watched a couple of weeks
ago where a guy found a pair of sunglasses in
the alley in a box and he put them on,
and all of a sudden he started seeing aliens walking
among us. He would take the glasses off and they
look like normal people.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Oh yeah, that was yeah, that was that was that
movie with Roddy Piper. Yeah, and it was called I
think it was called it or what was that called
the Cat? Well, it was Roddy Piper, that wrestler guy. Yeah,
and he put the glasses on and all this it
was a special like polarized sunglasses or something like that,
and you could see these aliens. You know, Stan is

(46:46):
a is a really special guy. And and without going
into any detail, I can tell you that Stan has
many special talents that most of us probably have but
aren't really aware of. But there is something about Stan
that interests whoever these particular visitors are. I don't know

(47:07):
what it is. They certainly weren't very helpful in Stan's
legal matters, but they do whoever this these entities are,
continue to interact with him for some reason. And there
is something about some there are some things about some
special people that that draw you know, and I think
it starts when you start having maybe one or two

(47:30):
experiences and maybe they interact with you, and all of
a sudden they become interested or you're part of some genetic, uh,
you know, line of history, you know. So I think
that they do become interested in families. And I do
think that there's some reason to believe, in my from
my perspective, that they were interested in Stan's family for

(47:52):
some reason, for and and uh and for some time.
So I just wanted to put that out there. You know,
there have been rumors for a long time that Stan
was innocent, But I'm here to say I've been a
practicing lawyer for thirty one years and it's my strong
opinion based upon what I've seen, that Stan is in

(48:12):
fact innocent, that he was railroaded, that he was that
he was framed in a very specific way, and we
have a really good idea when, where, who, and who
did it and how it happened.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Yeah, you know, again, I'm gonna because I don't know
the whole case. I just heard a little bits of it,
you know, through the years. But here's another thing you
can think about these bad cops. They could be connected
with different other government agencies too, of course. And you
know that's the problem. You know, a lot of people

(48:46):
are really scared to talk what you talk about, what
I talk about.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
You know.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
It's one thing. If you get out there and just
talk nonsense, then no one's going to bother you, you know.
But when you start trying to dig deep in to
the information, that's when you start getting hassled a little bit.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
Well, I fully expect to receive some backlash for this.
I can remember when I worked for doctor Greer, he
flew a team of us out to Florida and we
were followed in Florida. I'm sure that doctor Geer has
intelligence people that you know, keep really close tabs on him.

(49:26):
And you know, I've I've looked under my car for
bombs before. I'm not really I'm not really so much
worried about that. But I can tell you that my
journalist friend Stacy Lynn has received death threats because of
the information that she's uncovered, and Stan has been receiving
death threats as well, and his sister has received death threats.

(49:50):
And I fully expect that that I will receive death
threats as well. But I can tell you that I've
lived a very full life, and I'm very happy and
and proud of the things that that I've done over
the course of my life. And you know, if I
die in the pursuit of truth, then then so be it.

(50:11):
But what I would like to see is for Stan
to get some of his life back. I would like
for people generally to get to understand, you know that
while Stan really was innocent, and he really was railroaded,
and it really was framed, it's not a rumor, it's true.
And I'm really hoping that the actions taken by the

(50:33):
investigative journalist by Stacy Lynn will lead to some action
in Colorado by a competent attorney who can take his
case and and you know, ask for a retrial or
you know, or at least have his sentence commuted, or
maybe even a pardon from the governor. I'd like to
see something like that, because Stan didn't deserve the the

(50:56):
the poop sandwich that was that was served to him.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Oh, I can call it worse than poop. He was
really dumped on. I can tell you that. Hey, rich
I just want to thank you so much for coming on.
How we got about thirty seconds? Is there anything you
want to share.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Well, I would share that. If you want to know
more about Stan Romanek, you can watch his movie on
Netflix and I think even on Amazon, and it's called Extraordinary,
The Stan Romanek Story. Watch that movie and I can
tell you from my own experience it's all real. There's
videos of aliens and there everything in there, and it's

(51:34):
it's all real. If you want to see what a
real alien looks like, watch that movie.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
I watched it on Johnny Carson Show.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
Right, Yeah, that's right. And people said that Stan faked it. Well,
I don't know if you if you watched it really close,
you know that that alien in the window, if it was,
if it was an animatronic, it was very sophisticated and.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
That time guy, but at that time, they couldn't have
done that. They didn't have the technology. Hey, Richard again,
thank you for coming on, my friend.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
Sure, okay, I appreciate it. Gary. I enjoy every time
i'm on. It's great and I wish you all the
best with the issues you've got coming up. And I
hope we get to get together again before long.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Okay, my friend, you take care.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
Okay, thanks, I appreciate it. Gary, thank you.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Okay, Well we got a lot of things going on here,
so stay tuned with us and we will be right back.

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Speaker 2 (54:52):
Well, we're right back and you know, jac, when you
really think about it again, you know, this gentleman was
set up and I can explain, you know, but I'm
not going to how he was set up. But that
is really scary, you know. Again, if you get into
like something too deep, there's people out there that will

(55:13):
try to destroy what you're doing.

Speaker 8 (55:17):
Yeah, and that's the thing. This is not a one
of This has been done to many people in this
field and a few other fields throughout history.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
It's a.

Speaker 8 (55:27):
Form of intimidation and a lot more. I mean, it's
dangerous stuff sometimes.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Well look at our show for example, what have we
been going through for months and months now?

Speaker 4 (55:39):
Right?

Speaker 8 (55:40):
Plus that a few years ago you had that certain
vehicle above your studio and got a strange email.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Yeah, but you know, it's gotten bad where we're being
harassed big time by I don't know who's doing it,
but you know they're putting stuff out like we're playing
copyrighted music. Well, the music we play on this show
is all license. I pay all these fees for this show.
I'm not somebody doing it in their bedroom or at

(56:09):
their kitchen table. I can tell you that everything we
do is you know, up and board. But yet every
time we do a show, what happens the next morning?

Speaker 8 (56:20):
Yeah, somebody there's a system they file complain on something's
not even to complaint. There should be some kind of
a thing where they get punis for filing false things.
But yeah, everything's license. We're one of the most well rounded,
best produced shows out there all around.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Well, you know, when you think about it, I'm not
mentioned any names, but there's some shows out there. It
certainly came out a few years before we did. And
and you know, and look that we have done here
in less than a year on YouTube. A year ago
we were sitting here too. I change the format because
I'm constantly tweaking with things. That's my nature. We were

(57:00):
on YouTube a year ago two thousand and eighty subscribers,
and right now we're almost a three hundred and twenty
seven thousand subscribers.

Speaker 8 (57:11):
Yeah, well there's this old outage. You know, quality will
prevail and rise up. But there's this other thing too.
You a lever can't change the spots. It is who
it is, and some will just always be that.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Well, if it's another show or another whatever, then they
need they need to look at what they're doing wrong.
Why they don't have the downloads. We have the views,
we have subscribers they have and on the app side,
you know, depending on our guests. You know, we can
pull in six hundred and sixty some thousand listeners off

(57:47):
of an episode on all the you know apps out there.
That tells you that a lot of people listen to
the show. We're going to take a caller and who
do we have out there?

Speaker 9 (57:58):
How did Gary?

Speaker 4 (57:59):
This is that? Shaga?

Speaker 3 (58:00):
Well?

Speaker 2 (58:01):
How are you doing Andy excellent ing? Are you staying
out of trouble?

Speaker 4 (58:07):
Yes?

Speaker 9 (58:07):
I am, But I do have the reason why the
US government is reluctant to reveal the alien situation. Why
I believe the reason. I mean. I was often asked
whether Darkeest Project Pegasus was reverse engineered, you know, those

(58:29):
time travel devices were reverse engineered from alien crafts, And
I would always state that my father and Jack Pruitt
and Robert W. Beckwith one of the brilliant scientists on
the project, would always state the debt of gratitude that

(58:50):
they owed Nicola Tesla. But I'm beginning to believe that
the real issue is also tied up in the reason
they will not reveal the alien situation. Just like they
refused to reveal our time travel secrets and the issue
of alien human liaison. They've been working with at least

(59:11):
the Tall Grays. Now, the tall Grays were one of
the foremost common of the seventy or so et species
that was revealed to me in nineteen seventy seventy one
in the fourth grade. You may recall the two tall

(59:32):
Grays I had that kind of summit meeting with in
that time period at the Monzano Weapons Storage Area and
on the Manzana Weapons Storage Area near San Dia and
the Cartland Air Force Base to the east side of Alberquerque,

(59:54):
New Mexico, was built to shelter nuclear weapons, but in time,
because of the et concern about our nuclear energy, they
began using it to shield extraterrestrials. And when I came

(01:00:15):
from that summit meeting, you know, you may recall that
we had to kind of discuss with them that here
on Earth we have areas of outstanding natural beauty like
the Grand Canyon and Niagara Falls and Yosemite. What are

(01:00:38):
some of the areas of outstanding natural beauty on your planet?
And they talked about a kind of sand dunes that
you could see as you flew into their planet. But
after that meeting, I said to my dad, why are
they interested in me? And I really meant, why are

(01:01:00):
they coming in my bedroom at night? I knew what
they had staged that summit meeting with those two tall grays,
and he said in a way that I realized. I
did not comprehend then and for a long time. He said,
the aliens wanted to meet the children of our project people.

(01:01:24):
And I finally have put that together. What he meant
was their project people. In other words, not us, not
the ETS, but both of us. They wanted to meet
the children of the alien human liaison that was going

(01:01:47):
on to develop a time travel capability for this planet.
So it's not really a matter of reverse engineering of
alien craft that's been the issue. The government doesn't want
to talk about the fact that it's been working with
the ETS quite a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Well, hey, Andrew, is that why you know? We have
Congress and all this stuff where they're supposed to release
to the public every so often information which they have
not done. They haven't lived up to their commitment to
the population, which they said they would do. And frankly,
I think they're just shoving everything they're doing it just

(01:02:29):
for to do it, because they are a little bit
of pressure there. But as the pressure kind of backs down,
they're not doing anything. But they maybe don't want this
information to come out that they've known about it and
have been involved with it.

Speaker 9 (01:02:46):
Well, I think they know that anybody they can reach
with the truth has been reached, and those who haven't,
who even are so foolish as to deny the reality
of the phenomenon, are what have what I call a
obligatory skepticism. They are skepticists that cannot be reached, perhaps

(01:03:07):
because they're afraid or naive or just don't want to
really explore the issue. But the information is out there,
it's all over the place. But I think they cannot
make an announcement as I was going to do inflected President,
because they've been working with the ets. And that's what

(01:03:31):
my dad must have meant. He must have meant the
aliens wanted to meet the children of our project people,
namely the people on Pegasus who they were working with.
I mean, clearly Pegasus and the Tall Grays had some

(01:03:53):
kind of relationship to set up that summit meeting that
I was part of, and I I think that's what
he meant by our project people, DARPA and the Tall Grays.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
What did the tall grades? What do the tall Grays
look like? Andrew?

Speaker 9 (01:04:14):
They looked about seven feet tall and like Han Chinese
after about a million years of further growth and development.
They were very kind. There was a male who was
walking in front of the female, and she was somewhat skittish,

(01:04:36):
a little bit apprehensive about meeting us as much as
we were meeting her. The man was calm and she
was very kind to me. She said, Oh, Andy, don't
be afraid. I'm not going to hurt you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
But okay, Andrew, how did they talk? Did they talk
for verbally or do they talk telepeth help pathic?

Speaker 9 (01:05:03):
They spoke perfect, unaccented English, so presumably they studied it
more evidence of the alien human liaison program that was underway.
I mean to be sure, my dad, Bob Beckwith and
Jack Pruitt were always singing the praises of Tesla, and

(01:05:26):
a lot did come from Tesla's work, But I think
our project was an alien human liaison project.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
Well, how many different species do you feel, you personally
feel that are walking this earth? Still on this earth now,
at any given moment. I mean, are we really are
we being really heavily visited?

Speaker 9 (01:05:54):
At least there were at least seventy I was told
back in seventy seventy one. And I don't have any
information that they've diminished. They've probably increased in intensity. So
I would guess perhaps several hundred different species.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Now are they able to imitate our features and walk
among us?

Speaker 9 (01:06:22):
Well, you know, Ruth Montgomery wrote our famous work Aliens
among Us, And I would have to say yes.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Now are any of these species bad?

Speaker 9 (01:06:35):
Yes, there's the good, the bad, and the ugly. I
mean there's just like in the ocean, we've got mammals,
you know, like dolphins, just nonviolent fish like sturgeon and sharks.
I think we can expect the same in space.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
Well, what's your definition between bad and ugly? And please
don't talk about my first wife?

Speaker 9 (01:07:03):
Well, I really meant the good, the neutral and the
bad and and and those do exist.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Well, how bad? How bad is bad?

Speaker 9 (01:07:18):
Well? I was briefed by Richard Cox Cox, whose nickname
was Clacamist. He used to do house parties in Portland,
Oregon as a former CIA official, and he claimed that
our air force was putting palettes of the flesh of

(01:07:41):
human children out for one of the et species because
they viewed such flesh as a delicacy. I have no
reason to believe that that Clacamus was not telling me
the truth there, because the individual who introduced me to
him was the late Virginia Olds of the Cia, who

(01:08:02):
was on vegas Is when I was a kid.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
That is horrible, and then we're complicit of doing.

Speaker 9 (01:08:10):
That, yes, and that might just be doctors being complicit
and turning the flesh of kids who have died in
car accidents and stuff over to one of the species.
But that's what Clackhamus told me. I do not believe

(01:08:30):
he's still alive, but that's what he said back in
around six or so.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
You know, I remember the movie The Invasion of the
Body Snatchers that was made I think in sixty seven
or sixty nine. Is anything like that, I'm sure you
remember it. It was a big hit, and it really
opened my eyes up to well, this whole field of
you know, ets and stuff like that, is anything like

(01:09:00):
that maybe going on? Or they are duplicating us.

Speaker 9 (01:09:08):
I don't know if they're duplicating us, but they were
definitely carrying out a long term investigation of our culture,
and I'm sure that's still continuing. And of course I
mentioned I mentioned Tom Wortham telling me back in nineteen

(01:09:32):
eighty two or so who was CIA, but he was,
well the English chair at UCLA, that they were concerned
and namely the CIA was concerned that the Aliens were
going to go for complete takeover. I don't know if
that was knocked down, but it's been a long time
since then, you know, forty three years since since he

(01:09:57):
put the jaw one on the back of my ear.
You're the bad story. Well he gave me that briefing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
Well, Andrew, here's another thing. I'm sure you heard about
this comment that Aviy Lowe is talking about that is
between seven and thirteen miles in diameter that he's claiming,
it's a good possibility that it is the spacecraft coming
into our galaxy.

Speaker 9 (01:10:24):
Possible. This is a big universe.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
Is that maybe what people are talking about that you know,
that could either be a false flag or could we
be heading to an invasion? Have you ever thought about,
you know, that it could be invading possible?

Speaker 9 (01:10:45):
Since I was pretty by Tom Wortham about that, but
I really think we have to view it as a
compromised government. They've been working with at least the Tall grade.
So in other words, I'm I'm interpreting what my dad
said in a slightly different way. He didn't mean the
aliens asked to meet the children of our project people

(01:11:10):
we the guys in DARPA or CIA or military. He
meant the one wanted to meet the children of our
the DARPA and the Tall Grays program. So that's why

(01:11:30):
they're not going to tell us the truth. Our government
is not going to tell us the truth because they're
compromised so much as the fact that they've been working
with at least the Tall Grays for at least fifty years.

Speaker 4 (01:11:46):
Almost sixty.

Speaker 9 (01:11:49):
I mean, my dad was an engineer for the Ralph
em Parsons Company, but he spent most of his career
on the et situation.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
Well, you know again, you know it all stands, you know,
you know, because I've had you on the show quite
a few times through the years. I had a guest
on who was the flight surgeon for NASA, you know,
for sending people up to the Moon and you know
all the way you know to you know, a space
shuttle and all that and he was also a pilot

(01:12:24):
of many, you know, military type aircraft. And you know
what he one day in NASA, one of his friends
high up in NASA called him into his office and
he went in there. Now again, this guy was the
flight surgeon, you know, with astronauts and all this stuff.
And he was taken in this room, the manager's room.

(01:12:48):
He closed the curtains, locked the door, and showed him
a video of NASA of a UFO and had the
US Air Force markings on it hovering off the ground
in the warehouse. So this tells me that, you know,
we were being lied to about technologies and aliens and

(01:13:12):
all that.

Speaker 9 (01:13:14):
Well, everybody's talking about Area fifty one when I was
invited to go see four aliens who had crashed. One
was injured. And what was strange about that alien's injuries
is they mirrored the damage to their ship. Now what
causes that. That's just a connection between they and their

(01:13:37):
craft that is far beyond what we.

Speaker 4 (01:13:42):
Performed.

Speaker 9 (01:13:43):
But I didn't go to Area fifty one. I went
to Edwards Air Force Base and I was brought in
and I just stood there at like a a door
or lock, and this alien was beside himself with homesickness,

(01:14:08):
and that's what I told the CIA. So they have feelings,
at least some of them. And they were not this
was not Area fifty one. They were at Edward. That's
where their ship and that's where they were under lock
and key in California, you know, in the Southwest.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
That's very interesting. How about people like these little green men,
you know, the grays and all that. Do they exist
or has that just you know, been Well, how can
I say, because that something that the government started do
you know? I guess if you go back to the movies,
you know, Andrew back into the mid fifties, you know,
you see these big aliens with a big head, and

(01:14:54):
then you know they started going in from the big
weird head down to the grays. But what do the
average aliens look like?

Speaker 9 (01:15:04):
Well, the grays aren't a commonality. There are a lot
of different grays, the most common being the small grays
and the tall grace, but many in between. The ones
up at Dulce for example, that we had to get
the approval of to go down into the two hundred
stories of the Dulcet base, or kind of medium sized

(01:15:28):
maybe about five to five and five foot tall maybe,
but the ones that I was having frequent contact with
were small. They were about maybe three to three and
a half feet tall. That's a very common size for them.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
Do they have any special powers like levitation or anything
like that or mind control?

Speaker 9 (01:15:53):
Yes. I developed the ability to levitate my small objects,
my small toys, and my dad, being a Lee High
educated electrical engineer, couldn't believe what I was doing. But
that was as a result of a contact I had
had with another small gray standing or sitting next to me,

(01:16:15):
and then about a forty year old adul Cray sitting
across the table from us in a round room, who
was showing us how to use our mind to levitate
small objects. So they've been imparting abilities in people. But
I do think that the government does not want to

(01:16:36):
reveal the fact that it's been in alien Layson. So
in that sense, maybe a book like Missing Time was
that Bud Hopkins. Yeah, it's maybe a little bit less
relevant to where we are now. Then let's say Tim
Goods book about alien human liaison. That's the rub they've

(01:16:57):
actually been partners in the Maybe the computer revolution was
their work. For the most part.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
It's really scary I mean, what's your take right now
before I have to let you go. What's your take
on the whole thing about ets and UFOs and or
UAPs or flying saucers or flying discs, whatever they are.
What's your take on what is going on right now?

Speaker 9 (01:17:27):
Generally there are some that are beneficent, some that are neutrons,
some that are violent. I believe probably for DARPA to
cast its lot with the Tall Grays that they trusted them.

(01:17:49):
They didn't really know who they were, where they were from,
or what they wanted. I've heard that from the children
of multiple military and intelligence personnel in the last generation.
But they knew that the for example, the Nordics had
helped us during World War Two, the Reptilians had helped

(01:18:12):
the Access Powers, so they knew that some were capable
of perceiving the beneficence of the United States of America,
and so they cast their lot with them. And so
at least those were in liaison on classified defense related

(01:18:37):
research and development programs like DARPEST Project Pegasus. But they
really didn't know, so they were in a bit of
a bit of a meyer, you know. They they didn't
know who these creatures were or what they wanted, but
they knew that some could discern the the beneficence of

(01:19:01):
the Allied Powers during World War Two and helped us.
But some are just cruising through the galaxy. Many are
scientists studying us. There was that concern that they were
going to go for a complete takeover. There are many

(01:19:22):
different kinds. There aren't just one gray or you know,
we speak of the grays, when in fact there are
numerous heights and typologies. So I think the development of
the Space Force is a very smart idea.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
Very interesting. Hey Andrew, I want to thank you so
much for calling in, and by the way, how are
you doing pretty good?

Speaker 9 (01:19:52):
Certainly nothing to report that's worsened.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
Okay, Well, I can't wait to have you on the
show again, and I hopefully we can get you on
in September October for like about an hour and a half.

Speaker 9 (01:20:06):
Okay, I'm all for that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
Okay, my friend, you have a great weekend, will you you.

Speaker 9 (01:20:12):
Too, Gary?

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
Okay, thanks for calling in, my friend.

Speaker 9 (01:20:16):
Okay, bye bye bye.

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show after this break. We're going to open up the
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with well more of a show. So stay too this

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Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
And you don't want to do that, Folks, both jac
think about this. Do you think we have ets walking
among us?

Speaker 4 (01:25:19):
I do.

Speaker 8 (01:25:20):
I think they're walking among us. I think they walked
among us for a long time. And I think there's
a lot of these ET's. I don't even think they're ET's.
I just think there are earth flings that have been
here longer than we have.

Speaker 3 (01:25:31):
We just kind of Richard touched on.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
Yeah, but that's naive again. You know, we're not the
only campground in the universe, in the galaxy, in the
Solar System and beyond. You know, I just keep thinking
of that movie Broadley Piper, you know, the Wrestler, and
you know, I think about you know, he found those
classes and all of a sudden he saw all those

(01:25:56):
ets walking with us normals down the street. As soon
as he had them on, they noticed he could they
could see what they really were. Maybe that's what we need.
Some special sunglasses that it pick up a certain frequency
of light and then we might see your wife or

(01:26:17):
your girlfriend, or your next door neighbor might not be
who he thought they were.

Speaker 8 (01:26:22):
No, and then they see you see them, and then
your in trouble. That's what happened to old Roddy there.
But yeah, that movie they live Listen, they're among us.
I think they're among us. I'd be naive not to
think so. At this point, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
Well, I still believe in the version of the invasion
of the body Snatchers. Look at Washington, DC right now.

Speaker 8 (01:26:44):
Look at what Yeah, according to some people, a lot
of those politicians are actually reptilians.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
You know, the last time I said this little thing,
I had a politician, a congressman reach out to me
in my state and said, please, don't ever say that again.
And all I said, wrong, Okay, it's nothing wrong with
what I said. I said. What we need to do
is get a couple buses, go down to you know,

(01:27:12):
Washington d C. Skid road area. There got to be
someplace in the district at Columbia, a skid road area.
Get a whole bunch of whinos, you know, off from
a couple of bottles of muscatel a day, and we'll
have the Congress and the Senate replaced. And then we
find that the worst Whino out there and the next

(01:27:35):
the worst and make them president. Couldn't be any worse
than what's going on in Washington, DC right now. He
got upset with me.

Speaker 8 (01:27:44):
Well, you can't please everybody, Gary, You know this by now,
If not just there's perfect example.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
I don't know, but I certainly we can't do any worse.
And you know, again, with disclosure, I don't think we're
gonna get it.

Speaker 8 (01:27:59):
No, not the way people envision in their minds. It's
never gonna happen like that ever.

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
You know that.

Speaker 8 (01:28:06):
One It will be pure accident if they ever just
come out with it. And even then they'll say all
the videos too good, it's gonna be fake or it's
AI or c G I or some kind of I,
and people won't believe. We'll call it the reason.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
Yeah, you're right, A big shout out to my friend
Pamela and Barbara and we have what mid Ohio Valley
unexplained here.

Speaker 8 (01:28:30):
Too, Yeah phenomena. Yeah, yeah, a few people and Barb's
on there.

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
I just said that.

Speaker 8 (01:28:38):
Oh I didn't he say, Barb?

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
Well hold on there, mister, Okay, we got a color?
Who do we have?

Speaker 4 (01:28:44):
All? We got art here?

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Well, art here is that your last name here?

Speaker 4 (01:28:49):
Yes, okay, all the time, I'm they're next to you
right now, but you never know, right. But you know
the movie is called They Live with Ronnie Piper. Yeah,
and if you knew that, the plot of the thing
was that they had a radio tower on a building
that distorted our minds to see subliberal messages with the

(01:29:12):
glasses were given away that it said consume by and
and yet it looked like I think one was like
Sontan girl. She was one with a dog and then
and then you're looking up at it and it says,
you know, by consume and just spending and everything. So
that's what that tale was. And you know the when
you guys were talking right now that they're walking amongst us, Well,

(01:29:35):
you know I've told you before that at that meeting,
I met that Retilian hybrid, so we know we got hybrids.
And then the caller that I had call you the
underground base, he said she saw interdimensionals. Uh, she saw
reptilians and then also all kinds of others and uh

(01:29:56):
and hybrids and it's like a city below and you
know these are things. This is the one that I
caught those different reptiles in her but these are off
of picture, so it could only be seen with pictures
and definitely, you know, just to be an eyewitness as
it was being done. As she was taking a picture,
she was sending it to me, you know, like more

(01:30:17):
or less lie from her place to my place and
amazing to what and one with an alien hit and
now again your other caller, I think Richard thinking he
said that that you know this guy what's his name, Stan,
that was seeing things. So yeah, some of us have
a lot and I you know, in the paranormal you

(01:30:38):
want to call UFOs alien. But yeah, the question that
you guys were talking about tonight was you know, the
like the underground city stuff and the uh the green alien.
You know. The friend that I had showed me his
video of two great aliens, big big almond heads. Their

(01:30:59):
their chin was down on to their solar plex area,
so you couldn't see their neck, which I always see
these alien pictures. These guys got next, you know, and
you can't see this on this one almonds smooth, but
the but the about four feet tall. The body was
box feet long. And here's another thing, long arms. I
couldn't even see the hands but had long, thin arms.

(01:31:21):
But the I thought was a space suit. Looked like
the under the belly of a lizard. You can see
the scales, so you're looking at these scales and it's green.
So and then the craft is about maybe ten foot
radio's bowl round and it's made of of metal, and
you could see the scratches on it, both bottom and
top are spinning so fast with a white beam of

(01:31:43):
light around it, just shining that it was hitting the
trees and making the shadows up against the back of
the houses across the street, like large trees, so bright
that even on his video, your eyes are getting a
little bit, you know, irritated. But in front of the
like a window in front of his front room window,
but a couple of feet off the ground is things

(01:32:05):
spinning and they're just staring at him. And inside is
all white, like if they were covering up that you're
not going to see no instruments. And again you see
these things on movies and all that, where the the
inside of the craft is all white and they're standing
in a white room. You know, I can only you know,
say that it was something in that kind of format.

(01:32:27):
So it's just a lot of uh, you know, I
believe over here we got that that kind. We have
a pineal gland, which is where where humans have that.
The the the Buddhist temples, they have pineal gland like
pine cones as symbols that give off that look of

(01:32:50):
the you know, instrumentally saying it's the pineal glands that's
in our heads is reptilian.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
Well, you know, I have something I wanted to tell you,
because you know some of the stuff you've said, I had,
and I told you that I sent you today on
whatever it was, on messenger a message I had a
nightmare because of you. I had. I had a dream people,
yeah I do. Yeah, No, my current wife that she

(01:33:22):
was an alien and had slits in her eyes, and
at night she was well, talking in a foreign language,
not German, not French, not Russian, something off this world.
And it woke me up and I was in a
wet sweat. I'm talking about wet, like like I would
have just stepped out of a shower, that's how much

(01:33:44):
I was sweating from that dream. And then I sat
there and looked at my wife and she was snoring
like normal. And then I went back to sleep, and
then in the morning I got up and I remembered
the dream kind of and I sat there at the
edge of the bed before going in and taking a shower,
and I said to myself, was that really a dream?

(01:34:07):
Or was it real? Did she actually open her eyes
and have slits in her eyes? And you made that happen?

Speaker 4 (01:34:16):
Had Okay you didn't say oh did you?

Speaker 9 (01:34:18):
Darn you? Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:34:19):
But you know, you know what you're saying something there
that's really interesting. When you guys are both talking, you know,
all your all your guest speakers, there's all that synchronicity,
wording and familiarity to me, So this is what others
that just barely seen something. Maybe you're giving a somebody
like myself, gives a subliminal message to somebody that opens
their minds and then they start having more sightings, which

(01:34:43):
I've I've met people who I talked about showing them
my pictures and then all of a sudden they're having
there and they showed I sent you to from two
different people the pictures that they had just got and
they were so when I met them, they were so excited.
Then I said them to some of my other ones,
I go, well, yeah, well that might's not as good
as yours. But no, I said, you're you're getting to
the point where you're opening your mind. So is it

(01:35:05):
sub littally where people are too caught up in the
world's affairs that they don't have time to think and
open up. But when I when I think, are your
listeners and everybody that's listening, they are intrigued with this,
and you're like the outlet and you know, I'm going
to miss you for a while, but we're going to
stand by and wait for you. But it's it's a
thing that you know, I don't want to say it's

(01:35:26):
like an addiction, but you guys, you know, you guys,
all your crew and everything's an addiction to us to
keep the narrative going and finding the truth. And that's
the only way we're going to get our disclosure. Not
with the other side. I agree with everything that's being said.
But yes, I thank you Gary for all the time,
and I, you know, wish you good luck on your

(01:35:49):
on your venture in the operation room.

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
But well, you don't get that healthy when I come
back after the surgery and all this other stuff being done,
you know, I I'm taking the show to the next level.
I am going to really dive deeper in these subjects.
You know, I'm not going to do the hype and
the bs that a lot of these podcasts and TikTok

(01:36:12):
and all those people do. I'm going to I've made
it mandatory to my producer to find me even better
quality guests yet, so we can dive deeper into the
subject and get you know, their take on what's going
on or what they've encountered or whatever. That's what we need,

(01:36:34):
and that's what we're going to do when I come back.

Speaker 4 (01:36:37):
Right, And one more thing, just the last thing I
want to say, because this is going to be the
end of things for a while. You know, there's something
there that speaks to all of us and solibly meshed
whatever I can put us out that can do that
the strength, the power because everything that's happened to me
and everything that And again i've heard one of your guessing,

(01:36:58):
I'm not scared. You know, it's not scary. It's might
be able to start doing here and there to see
something and then you know, but it's not a fear
scared that some people do get. But in this case
to me is that we're seeing things that have different
maybe shapes or whatever objects in the sense that it

(01:37:21):
when I've seen everything that I've seen, even to the
cryptis or whatever, there seems to be a connection. As
soon as you see it, they see you. It responds.
And this is something that in all categories of these things,
that that's the thing where what is that is that
a source? Is that the creator? Is it something that
really knows our life, knows what it's already doing to you,

(01:37:43):
that it pops out just to show you. I'm coming
to that. And every time I fathom that, I said,
this is really exciting. This is something like, oh my gosh,
I said, what is it trying to do to me?
What's it trying to tell? Me?

Speaker 2 (01:37:55):
Well, you know what are you got to look at this?
We still don't know all the functions of the human brain.
We don't and we're learning more and more. Like what
people when they die, you know, maybe when they think
they go to the other side, it's their brain, uh,
you know, kind of give them a nice sin off,

(01:38:16):
you know, where they have a review of their whole
life before it's totally gone. But maybe from the other aspects,
some people their brain could be well malformed compared to
the normal society where they can pick up different different things,
where they can telecommute or get messages from well these

(01:38:40):
different entities, or they see UFOs which a normal person
standing next to them might not see. And that's because
the what did you bring up today this evening was.

Speaker 4 (01:38:52):
You know we could be in another another dimension, are
next to us, you know, being and you know that
could be the portals, you know, the things that I've
seen and then again in training with Buddhism and all that,
and the chant or the tones of bells or tones
of mega herds going through the air like that can

(01:39:16):
resonate and open. So watching seeing portals, I've seen them.
I've seen a novelies look like portals they opening them,
the rip in the sky and you're seeing out in space.
I mean, there's so many things that I've seen, so
many things so close, so up, so real in the
day night.

Speaker 2 (01:39:31):
Well, that's what I was trying to say to you,
Art that maybe, okay, that there's certain people out there,
a certain amount of the population it maybe can see
into the next dimension where or in other things that
in reality that we normal people I guess don't see.

Speaker 4 (01:39:52):
Well, what about what about this? I've had a I
had where I had a filling put in, and then
my so life and again, and I got a radio
station right in my ear. And it was only one
time I heard the radio station go through my left
side of my ear. And you know, back in the
days where I remember the old radios with the crystals,
you know, you make your own little radio.

Speaker 2 (01:40:14):
Oh yeah, did you?

Speaker 4 (01:40:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:40:16):
Do you remember Lucille Ball? Yes, okay, yeah, I talked
to her a few times back years ago when she
was living, not after she was dead, you know, because
I've been on Radio God since nineteen seventy actually even
before that. I tell you what the story about her is.
She went to the dentist. They worked on her teeth
and they that's when they used to put the metal

(01:40:37):
fillings in. And she was driving. It was driving her crazy.
Every time she went home. She was hearing rock music loud, right,
and it was her filling doing it exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:40:51):
But it took the saliva to create the connection. That's
what I felt. Saliva when I opened my mouth and
I heard a radio station just about maybe three or
four seconds and I went, well, pick that up, and
that was it. I've never had it before, but yeah,
she must have had a bunch of feelings.

Speaker 2 (01:41:07):
Yeah, she did, and that was a very interesting story
as she told it to me back then when I
interviewed her. But that's just it. You got to look
at all these weird things that happen.

Speaker 4 (01:41:19):
And are they trying you know, they're trying to send
us When I get too I've seen things that are
they trying to send a message to me and say, hey,
you know, if you research it, you're going to find
an answer. But you know, to me, I'm lazy and
I just ignore it. But something comes up in my
life that I said, boy, that actually was what you
want to call that an omen or an anomally something
that happens and then you know, kind of connect to

(01:41:41):
something later on in your life that you said, Hey,
I saw that, this is what maybe they was trying
to tell me something. You know. So, boy, this this
world is so I can tell you so many more,
but I just want to let you know. You know,
this world. I always say this to my friends. This
world's alive. You know, trees and animals and they got senses.
Is in there. You know they're communicating a crow, a raven.

(01:42:03):
They can recognize you, and they can if you're bad
with them, they'll come and attack you. You're good, they'll
bring you things.

Speaker 2 (01:42:10):
Okay, I'll tell you this real quick story, and then
I'm gonna let you go about how intelligent crows were
going back on my farm, because I have a mini
farm here at the compound, back twenty years ago. Okay,
it was this one crow was driving me crazy, and
I had an air rifle. And you know, we're also

(01:42:34):
around my farm and secluded around the cedar trees, and
this this crow was just driving us crazy. So I
shot it. The next day, we didn't have a crow,
we had dozens and dozens of crows. It would just
sit there and squawk for hours, and then they would

(01:42:56):
take off for most of the day, and then they
would come back, and that would be more of them
and more of them over a period of a couple
of weeks. And then they finally took off that because
they knew I killed one of their buddies. That's how
intelligent crows.

Speaker 4 (01:43:12):
Are, right, I believe it. You know that one picture
I sent you with that crow with a white line
around it. I don't know you've seen that. You remember
looking at that one? It was a video in the
front door cam and I think it was hopping around,
but my friend couldn't get it to work, so I
just took pictures off his phone. But it was a
video and this thing had a white line. If you've
seen it, and if I have to send it back
to y'all, give it. But this thing's hopping around, but

(01:43:34):
it's got a white line around a glow, a white
line around this crow. So I have fun to give
you that.

Speaker 2 (01:43:41):
Okay, my friend, well you have thank you for calling in,
and you have a super duper good weekend, will you.

Speaker 4 (01:43:47):
We will thank you, guys. Okay, bye bye.

Speaker 3 (01:43:49):
Okay, take care.

Speaker 2 (01:43:51):
Well. I hope all of you are doing good. You
know I'm going to be taken off to mid September. Uh,
it's not because I want to. I'm going in and
then having all my teeth thanked out. That's the first thing.
And then I'm going back into the hospital and to
have some well work done, and I will be back

(01:44:12):
with the show mid September. We got great guests, and
we're gonna have better guests than we normally have because
we are kind of stepping up the thing. We're going
to be on a lot of radio stations. That'll be
announced here the first week of September, and we are
growing and I want to thank all the people out

(01:44:32):
there that have made it happen. And again a big
shout out to all the truckers again. Yeah I hear.
You know. I kept messages like you wouldn't believe from
truckers and now it's they're saying that they like this
show better than well, some other show, and they're all
talking about our show. You know, I don't do any hype.

(01:44:54):
I'm not going to sit there and do what you
hear on TikTok or a lot of podcasts. I won't
luwer my standards an old school on an old fart anyway. Anyway,
if anybody wants to call in, we'll take one more
call in. If not, I'm going to wrap it up.
But you know we need If you want real disclosure,
you really need to keep bugging your congressman and your

(01:45:17):
state's not state, but your senator. You got to keep
doing it. If you don't keep the fire, that's what
they're waiting. They're waiting for it to burn out. And
like I said, for the last week, because of TikTok,
and it seems like people are wanting clickbait so much

(01:45:37):
they want listeners, and they're spreading gossip of fake stories
about this that about eufology, And that's what we don't need, folks.
We need reality what's going on. We need the truth.
We don't need lies spread upon lies. And that is

(01:45:59):
going to do more damage in ufology, and it's going
to unwine everything that anybody who's been involved trying to
prove that these things exist. It's going to unwind it.
And that is going to be very, very damaging. And
don't let what's going on Washington, d c In if

(01:46:19):
you're with you trying to get the word out to
your congressman, I want to know what's going on. And
you know Abby Lowe on this comment, if you read
his entire document and he's actually even said it, he's
not claiming that this is a foreign object a UFO

(01:46:41):
or something, you know, ship coming from another one. It
was like it could be. He didn't say it was.
He said there's a possibility. Well, yes, this possibility. I
can get out tomorrow and get hit by a greyhound
bus too. But here's the point. People have pick that
up now. And if you listen to this stuff on

(01:47:03):
podcast or on TikTok. It's not well, you know, it's
like it's real. This is not a comment. It's a spacecraft.
I'd be more worried about if it's a comet and
it slams into Earth then if it was the a
alien spaceship. So think about that. People, don't let it

(01:47:27):
worry you again. I just want to thank everybody out
there it listens to the show, and you know what,
I can't wait to be back with you in September.
But until then, you can go onto our website at
night dreamstock Radio dot com. There's over eleven hundred past shows,
so if you missed me, you can certainly go and

(01:47:47):
listen to those eleven hundred shows. That's why they're up there.
There's a player you can just pick it and have
your heart's content. And also you can go onto YouTube
from our website at night Dreamstalkradio dot com. It'll take
you right to our YouTube channel and there's like one
hundred and ninety eight or something videos of guests I

(01:48:08):
have interviewed on YouTube. You can watch those two. So
you know again, it's you know, like going and sitting
and watching your TV show. You can just do that.
In fact, that's what our show is very popular if
people around the world watch it when they get up
because all the different time zones. But like a lot
of shows, we average anywhere from about nineteen to eighty

(01:48:31):
thousand views per show and that that's not bad. And
on all the apps it's up to like six hundred
and some thousand anyway too. I am back everybody one
out there, have a good one and we'll catch you
on the other side.

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