Ep 194 ¡De pelos! Como perros y gatos

En este episodio de Ningún Chile te Embona, Julián Soto, Quique Galdeano y Emiliano Gama hablarán con Daniel Azuara y con Joss Reséndiz sobre los mascotas. ¿Qué tan conectados podemos estar con ellas? ¿Qué nos vienen a enseñar? Además nos hablan del matrato y abandono de estos en México ¿lo vamos a seguir permitiendo?

Episode Transcript

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information and do not represent the opinionsor editorial thinking of scandal. They saw
or or or speaking to Chile andonly as we can do, no chin

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le Temona returns to two Chile youlisten welcome to another episode more than any
Chilean you cute. And today Iwant to present the net to a scandalist
that well, that was a while. We' re doing things again.
But Emiliano Gana Gamma is here hehears, he speaks to me, he
works to be here. How areyou, how well, what do you

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say I' ve been in thisone for about three months, like three
years hiding in the clusett of brooms, but I' ve already been pulled
out. You are already welcome toany fear Chile. I want to tell
you that Adrián Andrés, before returningwith the young people who are here,
to give the floor to Julián,that Adrián Andrés left a retreat of silence.
We' re not finally gonna havehim here for a few episodes.

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Then he went to deal with allthe traumas and nerves left by the exes.
Then Adrian Andrés recover and see youin a few months and don'
t worry. He' s gonnakeep coming right back. That' s
not going to change in a biggerway then, exactly Julian Soto, what
a pex how about Chile. It' s nice to be here again with

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all of you and well let's miss it in. Adrián Andrés was
the one who grabbed me the mostfrom the chombo, but well he told
him the best and he would comeback soon to keep grabbing us. The
chungo the chon don' t leaveexcited, if you hear. We have
two guests here, Jos and Daniel, who came to talk. We'
re going to talk today about pets, about the connections we have with pets,

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and then they' re going totalk to us about talking about what
they do, too, because we' re going to talk about pets.
They don' t look at theend. In Mexico, the issue of
the abandonment of dogs' pets onthe street is real. There are 28
million dogs in street situation, thatdogs and cats. So it' s
quite normal to see in every house, every family that has a pet.

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And aside from the children' sissue. We don' t all want
to have children anymore. So Idon' t know yet, not all
of it, but the issue ofhaving a dog, a dog, a
cat, among other things, isbeing used more. But in the end,
it is already very common. Sothe pet is something that has to

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be talked about, because in theend there is a lot of misinformation and
every time when we have a dogat home, we become more aware of
the real needs that a dog hasto egg, hear games to see you
have an organization, what the organizationdoes have. You truth to us.
If you mean, we work asa team and what we do a lot
is rescue, well we rescue verystrong cases. We also support sterilization,

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we do teamwork with other colleagues and, above all, that the message we
want to give is respect to adopt, what, buy and, above all,
that people understand that a pet ispart of their family and that it
is a living being that feels,that has needs and that, above all,
gives a lot of affection. You' ve had, I mean,
we' ve all had dog catshere. Yeah, I do, you

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' re a lot of cats.I' m the yes, yes,
but not so much the cat beast. I had a cat that was with
me for fifteen years, mother thatdid pick him up on the street this
dolche and he was with me forfifteen years and died. He died once
for a horrible milestone. I don' t know she' s san or

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not, Dale, Dale, Dale, No, no. On the day
of my birthday party last year,I live in a building downtown and the
cat, because it was always likegoing out and back. Only then on
the day of my birthday party,like, it went out and we were
in and the music and I don' t know what the neighbor suddenly touched
me. He told meye it's that my dog grabbed your cat,
don' t suck and died how, but he killed him. The dog

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was, but it was a rareexperience. But, I mean, he
also had this thing like I wentafter him, I picked him up and
I loaded him up and I waswith him and I was already in my
bed and I said to him likeif you don' t want to fight
him, I mean, if yousay already this far I was alive,
yes, I was there. Ithink it' s even louder than it
isn' t that you already foundit, I mean, I was,
but that was cool, because yeah, it was really cool to be with

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him. Well for me, yesgood the door fire aha, because more
when I loaded it, rum snoredand even did so with his little legs.
And it was kind of good,because if we' re going to
say goodbye here and what better fora cat who was born on the street
than to say goodbye with the dignityof fighting a dog. No. And

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but I have that connection to youwith this cat fifteen years and that'
s when I was sick, Iwasn' t when 15 ah fifteen years
old I couldn' t get hiscomplete, I didn' t have that
all super emotionally tied up anymore,yeah, and besides I knew myself super
well. I mean, it waslike I remember a few, a few
weeks before the neighbor' s dogkilled him, I was super sick from

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the throat. Then she would sleepwith me and if I would stop at
anything, I would be mauled toget you back to bed Hear and ask
a question. Oh, how youreacted to the neighbor' s dog,
so you told your neighbor. Youclaimed him, so look. I didn
' t react, I told herhow it was animal stuff and I knew
that if my cat went out withthis I was with it that day I

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a river its clearing, then no, because I' m not going to
play ham. But three months later, that same dog wafted, that good
dog, mysteriously, mysteriously died yes, no, this dog went back into
my house to chase the other cat. And there it was like another time.

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After he died aha, that is, in fact, when Donche Uchi
died, he was about six monthsold we lived with us. Okay,
sure, you rescued this one,too. Yes too and the other one
I have now is also rescued fromthe street and in fact, I now
have a cat that is a vaquitakitten that is not allowed to touch.
He' s been at my housefor eight months and he won' t
let himself be touched. He sleepsin my bed or for you, not

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for anyone, just for the othercat, but he sleeps in my bed
and when I turn to see himhe goes down and throws his hand at
them to touch him he hears andhides three hours and prays like this very
traumatized. That' s the streetIt' s a good time Cha,
I' m sure, and that' s where I' d like to
ask you. That is, forexample, you are more of dogs or
cats of dogs why, because werescue and we have in another house and

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we support ourselves as a team withother people and it is very difficult sometimes
that in an environment live dogs likeyou say they bring traumas, they bring
many problems with cats. That canhappen if you cross and if you have
space divided, they can attack,if they can kill each other. We
' re more of a dog,but we also help kittens. I had
two cats and it' s veryfunny because now it' s already alletic

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to cats. Then I can't have cats at home anymore. My
dad has four cats and every timeI go to r or n n ns
on pill so I can be thereand I do like them. But the
truth is my connection is more withdogs already and they are harder to rescue
cats. Not total. Yeah.Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah?
Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? There' s a dog there depending. I
imagine various traumas that depend on howthey have been in the street, in
life or if they are dogs thathad a home and abandoned them that do

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not let them caress so easily,but I guess you put them there to
the TITI and they get closer,they are leaving them regain confidence in the
easiest human. A cat is saysthat cats don' t forget that if
you hit him one day, youyelled at him he stays net, that
' s me, for example,Look, for example, Johnny, here
' s Falcore Falcore is my kitten. We rescued him from the Hurricane of

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Acapulco, that is to say hehad come from there, they brought him
to Mexico and I fell in lovewith him when, because I am gay
and then you realize that I saydon' t worry, I' m
not sophilic, but this one butyes, I mean, the truth is
that he is a super docile catand right now, that is super two,

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yes, this one doesn' t, but you saw him, that
is, he enters falcoure and then, like you realize that he' s
not an aggressive cat. I mean, all the time he' s looking
for a way to get close topeople, and he does look a lot
like me I think that' swhere they start adopting, like dogs or
cats, this owner' s personality, which is whether they see it suddenly

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or not. When they connect,yes and yes, and it' s
very interesting because, as they say, a dog is very affectionate and a
cat is a little more independent.And that, that' s too strong
for me to go, because whenthere is abuse or above all abandonment,
the puppy goes to his life,because for names we are, his whole
life. So when they run adoggy, there' s studies and there

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' s a whole thing and thata doggy when he stays abandoned in a
place on the street, it canbe up to three months that doesn'
t move around waiting for him tocome back. He' s the duel.
That' s very cruel. Soit does happen that in the street
all animals have their personality, thatis, they all have their are completely
different individuals and each has its ownway of being. But it does happen

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that in the street they have avery bad time, because in the end,
in Mexico it is the third countryin the world with the greatest animal
abuse and first in Latin America.So it does happen a lot that I
' ve heard cases that now alreadyhave tips for taqueros and so that they
don' t come near. Andit' s like a tip not to
pour water on it with cold water, but they come back and pour boiling

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water on it. So, ayno mames so it does happen? And
you see a lot of cases.The other day we saw a case where
they grabbed a cat and they threwhim a bike from a place, from
a co or something and it doeshappen. So it is extremely important to
become aware and aware that animals alsohave emotional needs and that they also feel

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the same way we do. Sothat' s very important, because what
happens. That' s why they' re having such a hard time on
the street and that' s why, when we want to adopt them,
they' re getting more traumatised andit' s a topic to be able
to train them, regain their confidence. And that' s why it'
s also sometimes people prefer to buythem. So I was just going to

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ask around, because they were justtelling us before they went into the air
about a case of a little dogthat they were using as a foot of
child, that is to say tostand up, engage and sell the piglets.
Not then. There is, asI have this doubt, because the
breeding of dogs, as I sayhas I imagine, its positive things,

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but it also falls into excesses.Not clear, of course, of course,
to see, the breeding of dogsis regulated. It' s a
regulated trade. Here' s atopic and everything gives them away from the
failure to correctly apply the legal schemeof the authorities, because, because not
all the creators are in perfect playanymore, I would say and I understand

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that most of them are in terribleconditions, like me being very bad to
dogs. And here the message isalso if there are so many dogs,
as I did Daniel, twenty-eight million dogs on the street that everyone
gives love sonle you give love toone of the street and so on,
instead of buying Sambur on the street, you' re already giving him a
little log. You know now it' s true, I mean, nothing
more to get controversial, but Idon' t feel like all of a

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sudden breed dogs are much easier toeducate. I don' t mean,
I remember I had a time takingcare of a German pastor like that and
I don' t know what andit was awesome how fast it was to
teach her things. In other words, in two weeks of cohabitation, he
was already standing in the corners,that is, he could pull her out
without a leash and sit in thecorners. And that' s where it

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has a lot to do with race. I mean, the German shepherd is
a very let' s say atwo- sit very docile and very intelligent
breed. You know then if ithas to do there a little bit with
the breed, but with a gooddexterity made of Daniel it can happen that
behind his dogs mixed dogs and perfecttell them, then look send two.
One is the dalmata we have,which is adopted aha the data that are

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tremendous. They' re not tremendous, they' re super anxious. The
coach really tells him it cost hima lot of work, but one week
he had me super good and we' re tracking him. And we have
another who' s a puppy,who' s one of the ones we
rescued trapped, is one of theones we rescued from a stellarization campaign,
a puppy who came in is superloving, super amazing and it was so

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much easier to educate him. It' s got to be six seven months
and it' s really flawless thenit depends a lot on the race.
It is also much easier to educatea dog when it is puppy and when
it is big. And also,it depends a lot on which coach you
take him with you. There arehorror stories, of places where dogs train,
but there' s still one whereI' m training him, that

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' s Doggie Park, that's the truth very well. I didn
' t let him go. Mydogs to anyone really are my life,
they' re my dogs. There' s five of you. I have
five adopted dogs, he hears adoptedand the subject, for example, become
children, not me. For example, I see my boyfriend' s bitch,
I mean, I don' tlike you or I just see Lisa

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' s bitch, I see Luis' bitch and it sounds the same,
it sounds worse. So Lisa.What happens is that it is very playful
in the, but because when theyare puppies all the time, i e,
educate her, for example, shekeeps peeing no, then this Güey
there goes again with cats is different. That' s why the truth is

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that I say what peace, becausecats, because literal sandbox they make,
that is instinct, I don't know what pecs or half intelligent very
fast, they are very clean andin the end, the dog is a
shitter. I mean, I couldn' t be with the dogs, because
Güey really isn' t, butit' s too much of a son,
I mean, if this is ason of its own. The truth

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is there are a couple of friendsI did have to tell them how you
heard this dog how happy it isthat you are doing this to yourself in
your life, but until it isnot educated, I will not visit you
because I can not, that isa rude dog and I have a friend,
Adriano Andrés' s dog, Iwas wearing it was from wey I
was throwing all the lights, Imean, is the dog apart like a

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crusa half Saint Bernard. Then onething bigger than me bastard. Then there
comes a point where you say Güeymake yourself there, that is, that
they don' t stop barking andthat' s how. And the truth
is that training one thinks it's for one, but it' s
for them too in the end theybehave. So because there is a hierarchy.
So they haven' t made themunderstand that you' re the leader.
So the awareness of more and howwe humanize them is not right either.

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That the Hualicemos, that is,feel are living beings, they have
to be respected, but they aredogs, they are not family, but
they are dogs. And that goingup to the Güey bed, for example,
is to get down exactly or itdepends on what you want. For
example, I like that band tobed, but don' t get on
the couches. No, then you, so handle it that way and who

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you give it to, as wellas the children who spanked me or the
period, no, but there aredifferent techniques. I like positive conditioning,
no more than to reward them whenthey do the things you want to throw
out and then they' re goingto say Güey hits the kids, that
is to say I want to seeGüey give me again a funadita and to
sleep say yes a tip and Iwant to tell. A friend had a

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pomeranial. That' s just humanizingthem. I' m very struck by
the fact that a friend of minehad a pomelanial that once left for Miami.
I don' t know what youcan walk Fito. Yeah, so
I go by Fito and I'm at the door of the building and
he doesn' t want to,he doesn' t want to go out.
I' m talking to him Hey, honey, your dog doesn'
t want to go out. Youput his boots on him and I,

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of course, but I put shoeson the dog to get out on the
street what you' re talking aboutput his boots on. Haha and then
I' ll go out and putthe boots on and I' ll be
right out. He can' t. But then one of the little shoes
didn' t mames, so heput three ifs walking Aina street, Eh,
what a fart. That is tosay, they are like the educated.

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In the end it deserved, butI was, as you are,
a little bit. I mean,you could be eating out of the trash
like you don' t touch thestreet a shoe and that' s the
thing, too, the stereotype part. No, why we have to have
a dog. I mean, dogsare living things. In the end,
it' s the same thing asa puppy, for example. Black dogs
are the toughest. Cats can't be adopted, too, or they

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use cats a lot for witchcraft.Cats, yes, cats. The season
is coming where you won' tbe able to adopt black cats. Oh
yes, it' s true,because you have or you can' t
look for one. It' sa ritual- like time. Then the
foundations say that the seriousness is paused. Let' s see, let'

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s see what' s fart?I didn' t know that, I
mean, if there' s alot of brojería. I say we know,
no yes, we' re aware. What fart? What do they
do with those cats, because therich Africans don' t sacrifice. Horrible.
In fact, there' s areal case Tell us about this chill
It' s a very famous one. I don' t know if they
didn' t see the news.He' s about a year old that

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in his Chimilco' s nativist parkthey' re throwing corpses of horrible mutilated
dogs. Horrible that I mean,they' re freezing them and they'
re the way they' re seento be mutilated alive horrible, they'
re taking out their guts very uglyfor witchcraft and actually, we' re
doing activism there trying to grab theperson. He still doesn' t like

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to grab it, but there's a lot, a lot of witchcraft
and just like you say, rightnow, it' s the time when
they catch cats and black dogs themost for burgery. That' s a
very cannony thing, because in theend, we do bring all this talk
about the inclusion of all that,but why just be inclusive with humans.
Exactly then, then, you haveto open your mind a little more and
you have to see the individual,the dog, as a being who also

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deserves a second chance, who doesn' t put on a pomeranian if weights
weigh not even before and not onlyin color, but also in age.
So I imagine that when doggies arrivewith adults and almost throwing them into adulthood,
old age little children, it costsa lot to take them out because
we don' t want a puppyor if they lack a little duck.

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I mean, I figure it's gonna be super hard for me to
find in a home. Yeah,in fact, we' re just going
to try doggies that bring different needsand right now, I have a puppy
that doesn' t have a littleeye, I have a little blind.
I' ve got a dog that' s mutilated to the duck. I
have a very traumatic dog who livedon a roof and mutilated him very ugly.
He' s very traumatized. Theboy took my bed. I ate

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at Teresa and ate with her brothersthat I saw on the roof and they
look very bad. So, Ahorita, it' s very traumatizing me under
the bed, and it' snot fantasizing that under the bed, it
' s like a little bit offorgiveness. It' s a kitten dog,
but I create some doggies, butjust like you say, there are
dogs with lots of broncas and thenit' s hard to attack them forward
so they can be seen. Ihave a question, Ahorita, that we

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were out of the air. Youtold us that this bitch who picked up
the part of the fetuses, soshe' s being adopted, so count
the case a little bit, andthey' re going to put it in
the option, as was fair.Fiona is called Afiona is a boxer,
despite being an adult boxer. She' s small because since she was very

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young they started raising her, thatis to say to be called a breeding
foot, to create her and sellthe puppies. What' s going on,
Fuciona, Fiona, we found herjust a few days ago in Tepozotlán.
We hit a place in the woods, a little dog is coming in
there very affectionate and everything and wedetected some balls that was loaded, pregnant

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and the big tits. When theyhave very elongated tits. It' s
because they' ve had a lotof babies, so they use them as
a breeding ground. Well, sherescues herself with the intention of seeing how
the pregnancy is going and it's enough to see you ono. Turns
out he was carrying dead babies inside, which means the baby' s puppy
was there. The little dog waspregnant and when she did not give birth,
she was thrown into the street,subject to being able to do so,

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and the whole dog died inside.So, Ahorita, we' re
in a whole process that yesterday hewas barely intervened, he was opened,
the little cats that were already inbags with very bad fuses were removed.
The doggy is a love, she' s adorable to do the doggy.
So, right now, we're in recovery from the dog. It
comes a very long process and it' s going to be in adoption and,

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as I showed you well, thelittle cats came out. Very ugly,
very cruel. But then, itis the cruelty of all that is
lived and it is all the workthat we do and they took out those
in very complicated Adoptions, because everyonewants, since the puppy, the farmer,
the Pomerania, in Chihuahua and thesedogs. I mean, we had
a pit bull that was also usedfor fighting bait, which took us a
year to accommodate it. Then it' s very complicated, because these shelters

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are saturated. Many people write tome to tell me Daniel I found a
dog that I do, or I' ll take you where I take him,
because nowhere veterinary and get him home. He doesn' t follow the
temporary home, he' s alreadyresponsible for that, because the shelters are
saturated. Just these cases. Why, because people like pitbulls to fight,
they like shepherds, hoskis, howskis, it' s the dogs with the

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highest rate of abandonment why, becausethey are a motherless. Yeah, then
where you think. Yes and thenthey dissipate a lot of attention, They
have a lot of energy and whatthey do, because it is like bye
no, because we can no longerhave it. There' s something uy,
there' s a subject I'd like to touch on. I
can' t handle this. Alot has happened to me lately and people
all over the circles, that peoplefrom my circle who write to me hear

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Daniel, because I have been withmy dog for seven years. But what
do you think, because I can' t have him anymore you help me
to give him up for adoption whorepissed me off because I was going to
see him, because it' snot a güey piece of furniture. I
mean, you haven' t beenwith me for seven years I mean,
you don' t see how you' re doing It' s not a
piece of furniture. Take over,go look for the possibility, that is
if I really God forbid, butif they are going to adopt and they
have to have that I didn't have the dog, I prefer to

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look for the sacrifice, because itis my responsibility to see the way I
can have it. No, youcan' t leave him. It'
s like you' d abandon ason, because exactly oxacto, it'
s not that much that hears memoving out of the house and not getting
so close to the dog. Youcan give me an adoption. I answer
them. If your son was acommand and your son wasn' t accepted
a command in a house, you' d be voting the difua or some

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of them would be controversial because sonlesis worth it. It' s an
answer like that no, don't get into a topic hear, but,
for example, right now we seeit from the issue of breeder which
is that it doesn' t havea very strong example anymore. But when
someone wants to adopt or buy abreed dog, not because, because their
reasons will have them what they wouldbe like the signs we would have to
look for to know that good breedingpractices are being done in a nursery.

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No. You don' t exist, no, they do exist, but
it' s very complicated. Forexample, the whole example of my lady.
That is also me, why Ihave a ta soul because they gave
us a dalmata that was dala isshe. Oh, wow. They'
re like this for nine years andhe had an accident similar to the one
your kitten had. He didn't fight with one of my dogs,
he stuck himself in the head justfor bad practice of not having them super

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trained and trained and the hierarchy,that is, from there we consider already
to start training our dogs. Hedidn' t die. It hurt so
much and I wanted to, becauseI don' t know I had a
bond with him, with the Dalmarace, which are super complicated. Really.
I don' t recommend it,because they' re really very complicated.
But, well, I already haveit and it came up. I
didn' t ask the Universe.I believe a lot in energy all this,

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and a friend told me hey becausemy aunt' s dogs crossed in
Yautepec because of the pandemic. Theydidn' t get them to sterilize the.
She' s being adopted. It' s two puppies Dalmata, because
I didn' t mean, Ithrew myself out and went for it.
Yes, there are twenty- eightmillion but on the street normally, as
we still have the subject of thesuperficial part of wanting a breed dog,

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breed dogs abound. So, ifyou start looking for him, you'
re gonna find the gold puppy Henrytriver that nobody wanted, that the family
that bought him abandoned him and he' s in adoption, so, yeah,
you can. You don' thave to go to a nursery and
spend fifty thousand sixty thousand pesos ona dog. So, if you might
find it in the option, it' s much better. But not really.

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I invite people to go and seefor themselves what happens in that farm
and see that and consider with theirown judgment whether it is feasible and whether
they are doing the practice correctly ornot they will mostly see that it is
not. Where they get the varoto see, because they' re telling
me güey, that' s thenet. I with this bastard Güey is
hearing nothing more than an idea thathow much his thought is you feel weight

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eight hundred, but the vaccine doesn' t get fucked up. I mean,
what fart? I mean? It' s a wey association you pull
out, that is, what fart, güey, that is? How they
do it here I always say thatin activism we say that in activism there
are two islands the reara of thetwo is that it is improvisational uncertainty.

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You don' t know when he' s going to grab a dog,
he' s going to bring somekind of cancer for a virus, and
he' s going to involve,I mean, taking the vet. It
' s from the beginning, itcomes in fog, blood studies, bio
studies. It involves a lot ofpension, it involves a lot so far.
It' s very important there.We have dogs, lots of dogs,
but you can' t put adog in the street to your house.
Because it has to be quarantined,because it can when it can'

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t spread. This involves a pension. He answered your question or pulls out
the varo i e, and returningto the uncertainty of improvisation of us,
credit card as a boat and thenwe make content in networks people. The
truth very very mop, they laughalways help us, you do not do
in the unemployment and we have verynice venterinaria that there gives us line of

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credit or güey what chido. Thetruth is it' s super good,
it' s not right, it' s just training for the ladies to
us or not. It' sjust that I' m going to tell
him that to take of the daythat we' re e g we'
re on the project in a certainway and, for example, in January
we brought that they were from andías twenty- two of shawl puppies of

(26:21):
everything went the count in a coupleof weeks to fifty- six thousand pesos.
And it' s Güey, therewon' t be raffles. No,
now ask now, now you'll have to use cause classes in
gymnasium. So I mean, we' re fine with Daniel set. We
can' t take Julian. So, in our warm- up Güey oly
fans so I go with a walkingdog. It wouldn' t be bad
fa pause i e Güey in February, March, April May, because not

(26:47):
if you don' t tease me, i mean there, go bay you
don' t have a little bitor you won' t crawl. I
propose that we make dinners, beit a dinner table, a dinner with
Julian wey maybe a little dinner inwhich it is not the same, a
dinner with the ushis. Look therewe put it or zenita to Julián that

(27:11):
' s a little bit more everytime ask Adriana Andres who knows about it.
It' s good ideas, notthe net is that güey. I
think it could be no, thatis to say by farting to see how,
how it can be achieved, whatsociety is or how the PEX is.
What it' s called, look, as soon as we create it,
it' s called help to thosewho don' t have a voice

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And well, it' s justto support us, because truth, if
there' s no money I canreach, that I can reach, and
because it' s getting more andmore complicated, then you have to feel
more like it. And neither canwe be, because we pay vets all
the time. So, if yousupport us and a partnership to get the
donations in, which company can donateall that to us for what we do
would be the option. That's why we created this socision. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, what did hetake? They are many Gods for

(28:00):
the united for history. Ora weare hades. I mean, right now,
we' re looking at the name. There is an interesting issue,
that is, to form a society. It' s complicated. It'
s complicated, it' s fart. He' s not first notary.
And then it would have to bea civil association to receive negatives, but
for it not to be a civilassociation, let' s say organic,
that is, if a given companyor one has to receive from an authorized

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donor and to have that SAT certificationis a fart. It' s years,
years, then Ahorita, in whatwe expect the years. We'
re all out there on egg rescue. Others do not, güey, yes,
but the natives who receive Ahorita isthrough the instagrams that put some interbank
key. Donating whatever is in yourhands and what you like to right and

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here is a very interesting topic thatI too want to touch on this very
important issue of transparency, because thereare also many people who go to rescue
and profit and say tragon perrin askfor money and literal vote and ask and
ask for money what we do.That' s why we upload so much
dal cervito content into the really badassof the whole doggy story. But as

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the process goes, we upload storiesabout how veterinary accounts go and we also
label people thanking. Finally, wegive transparency, which is very important.
If we have to choose who wedonate well, because if there are many
people who take advantage of this andprofit clearly. Of course I can make
an emphasis. For example, youare perhaps more focused on dogs, although

(29:32):
suddenly you receive cats. But Iadopted my phobia kitten. It' s
a month ago that I fell inlove too since I saw her photo on
Facebook. I was wanting to adoptfrom a cat. I got that picture
and I fell in love. Andit' s a foundation called a cat
project, and I actually had achance to go. They have good,
it' s not the foundation there, but one of the founders has her
home in Sochimilco. I remember itwas a Sunday. He interviewed me in

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person after I did a virtual interview, a questionnaire and the truth is that
it is a foundation that I wantto give him a round of applause because
wow a cat project project. Therethey are totally focused on cats and I
know that the founders give their livesto rescue little cats and not to eat,
not to eat them, because thefood and have the kittens and have

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food, medicine, medical care andwell, they followed him approximately in my
case, even though he met meI sent them weekly photos of fobe and
asked me suddenly for them at best. It was already once a month and
for a year and a half theyfollowed the process of how phibe was going
to, how it was going tophobia, that is to say to make

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sure that if she was well ina home where she was loved, where
she was cared for, also nottotally. I never took it as an
act perhaps reckless or violent, asyou should mix. On the contrary,
I was grateful because it was howwow they keep remembering this kitten, despite
having many more cases. And hewas a father because there was also a
question in the talkary that I hadrum about earlier if one day Julian you

(31:03):
who don' t want to fryand you want to abandon her. Please
tell us and we put it backin option, but don' t leave
it on the street. So itwas this really nice part of believing me
that I' m not going toabandon her, I mean, even if
she gets to the hospital and Idon' t know what to do with
you, I' m going toconsult as if it was even a consult,
because it was my first cat andit didn' t look very nice
and I wanted if someone wants acat too that they can come there.
For example, I went literally toPetco. I mean there are these.

(31:27):
This animal tents where they sell them. I remember I went to one and
so I was what the queen's dogs are called. This is cordi
aha. Then they make me veryfunny, but they gave me the price.
I don' t know what's better, no, it'
s just that that' s goodfor me how there can be ch not

(31:48):
my not to be tea, yesto be. They cost about 50,
000 pesos, but they had tenpercent of the fifteen or a few dollars
that is of all yes. Thankyou, quiet of the claw aha then
and in the end I said Iremember eight and a half of the night.
That' s how we adopted Falcoreand Alisa and it was falcore of
a one called Mazapán and I saidno. I don' t want them
to be called Mazapán and literal theytold me hear you know if there'

(32:14):
s a significant quota, no,but for what, because they' re
already sterilized, they already come asthey have this vaccine and this vaccine doesn
' t mean, we' regiving it food and everything. And that
' s really the way it is, because it' s maintained and it
wasn' t even PETCO, itwas the organization that' s got PETCO
' s back. I don't remember what the name is. But
in the end there are methods,finally they are in different parts or organizations

(32:38):
that are just dedicated to collecting,to well rescue these animals give them as
these services and then they give themthe rasa in adoption. It is that
in the case of cats, moreover, it is like, there is not
so much the roll of breeds asthere is with dogs, not cats.
It' s more like ay,because I found this pregnant orange cat to

(33:02):
give tea, it must mark flowerand there is only one cat. He
can have like this a cow cat, a black cat, a siames exactly
the breed doesn' t hear tosee unless he' s a Persian.
There are ones that are that arecho smart. I' ve got a
mengalist for me. In fact,when he was in the Tarafibe process,

(33:22):
I was also trading with a creaderoto buy a Bengali. But then I
said I love Bengali, but Ialso love Sames. But maybe I like
Bengali a little more. But theMengali will surely find home, because it
is a race that attracts much attentionand the Semest will also find home.
But I said it' s acat that right now has nowhere to live.

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Of course, that' s foradoption. Then something more empathetic comes
back. I liked something that yousaid is not to humanize pets, but
that also does not take away fromyou being the human being, that is,
you humanize yourself and you are neveralways willing to shake hands, to
give a home, to provide food, food, even the best. I
stop by to go to my gymon the street is like many cats we

(34:05):
take care of them in a certainway. Neighbors don' t lack food,
maybe you don' t want toopen the door to your house,
but they never lack the little waterplate. The food plate is from some
neighbors that are beyond. I don' t know if they' re your
cats, too, but they livemore outside than inside. But, all
of a sudden, they send mefood for Phobe, which maybe she doesn
' t like, because my phibeis half as well. It offers the
cala guitas, but if it isvery itchy food then that food that Phobe

(34:29):
suddenly makes him fuchi, because nothingcosts me, instead of throwing it go
to put the bowls that the neighborshave already put for the kittens that are
there in the street. Sure,and there' s something very important.
We are mentioning the issue of petsand that yes, cats and dogs are
mainly pets. There is something thatwe culturally adopt in Latin America, well,
everywhere, most of all, no, but in Mexico the problem of

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having a pet parrot. Parrots aren' t pets and I tell you this
because it' s illegal and besidesthe parrot trafficking in Mexico is very cannony.
Seventy thousand parrots a year are trafficked. Apart from the fact that only
eight out of ten die and twoarrive at homes where they live in cages

(35:15):
all their lives, they are notpets. There really is right now.
We are supporting an association called thisproject Santa Maria, which is in the
deep, which literally rehabilitates it andremoves the myth that parrots cannot return to
their natural habitat. There they teachthem to return to their natural habitat and
do wonderful work and have no supportfrom any government. So, supporting these

(35:40):
associations is very important, because they' re being the solution to a cultural
problem than that grandmother who don't know what, who bought me a
parrot than the other who don't know what? And it' s
too bad for them to get toostressed out. They are not made to
live in the cage and end upbecause they also have a very poor quality
of life and are on the vergeof extinction. The parrots are in danger

(36:01):
of extinction and having parrots is likepsychopaths. It' s not like you
' re fond of a bird anymore, it' s like you' re
going to check it out. Whathappens, for example, with raccoons,
with ferrets, with all these asif they were animals, that is,
even with changuits. No, Imean, what' s wrong with it

(36:21):
' s not okay, but forexample, I have a friend who'
s got that changuito, not andhe' s all over it, but
what about these, right with thisanimal trafficking that' s not regulated.
It' s supposed to be illegal, but you' re going to the
market, which one' s sound? Of sound and suddenly, then,
that is, boas, that isall these animals that just many are used

(36:43):
in witchcraft. No, but thereit is and nothing happens at all.
The greatest punishment of parrots, forexample, is to have had a connection
with the human being to be ableto speak. So that makes it attractive
to have a parrot at home,but they shouldn' t be and they
belong to their natural habitat. Bothmonkeys and ferrets as well as everyone else

(37:05):
wouldn' t have to be home. It is a cultural issue that we
must eradicate and that is not bad. If you have a parrot at home
today, it' s a culturaland non- knowledge issue. No and
I say it because in the housewe grew up with a parrot that Dad
rescued in a sound market, butthat in the end, because he lived
with us thirty years and in anaccident he died. And from there,

(37:27):
then, I started to investigate andsee how we could do it, because
we wanted to see if we sentit a sanctuary and that we had the
ignorance. So it' s notbad, because in the end it was
a culturally acquired topic, but whatwe can do now to eradicate it,
because it' s not right.They too deserve their freedom and in the
end, as humans, we arefinishing them exactly. And it responds a

(37:50):
little bit to what you' retalking about. I mean, there'
s two types of animers. Ican categorize the two guys, not the
wild ones and the domestic ones.What' s going on? Why if
you go to the Jungle, theCandon or I don' t know,
or Brazil, to the Amazon,to the Amazon. You' re not
going to see some German shepherd dogsin the jungle, some howskys, because
they' re dogs. They areanimals that since the ancestors have become domestic

(38:14):
with the human being, the wildanimals. No, well, as Daniel
rightly says, it' s acultural issue. But you have to try
to eradicate this culture a little andthe wild animal goes to the jungle,
goes to its lake, goes toits desert and the pet can be,
can be with us now in themarket of Sonora is a very delicate topic.
There' s corruption in the authorities. There' s a whole thing
there. Obviously, they know thatthere is animal trafficking and so it goes

(38:37):
on, no one is given yes, there is no sale of animals,
perhaps not so exotic. But ifyou go to the I think it'
s coapa bazaar, it' scalled selling breed dogs. I heard about
the strong case because my ex-girlfriend was there buying her Chihuahua, but
because she was accompanying a friend.Go to the Chihuahua and the Chihuahua was

(38:58):
in such a bad state that healready said. I' ll buy it
for you no matter how much itcosts, but I' ll buy it
for you not because I was lookingfor a pet, but because they do.
Savage to rescue him, take himto the hospital, and I told
the vet no. I don't think it' ll happen tonight.
Fortunately, he did spend the night. His name is Barry Barbiris. He
' s many years old now,but since I said wow, how many
not, I mean, if youhadn' t rescued him, he would

(39:21):
have died and how many won't leave. Sure. Yes, of
course what happens in kennels, forexample, I mean, because if it
' s a health issue, it' s not, it' s so
much dog when these kennels kill animals, I mean, it' s what
they say about that good, becausethey give us in an adoption. But
I don' t know. Thereare twenty days, I do not know
how much it is, but therecomes a point at which, yes,

(39:42):
it sacrifices it. Not everything comesfrom a bad government system and a bad
bad legal framework and bad action bythe authorities. Because I' m gonna
hear a little loud. But Ibrought it back first- world countries,
Germany, Europe, and I sentsome hot dogs to Germany for adoption.
We' ve already sent Europe andwhat happened there. There are no stray

(40:04):
dogs there. Very funny when Iwas hanging out with the Germans I was
down the street here in Mexico totake the bitches to the vet and they
were all asking me. On thestreet they saw doggies, they told me
why there are dogs on the street. I almost in mind was a why
don' t I ask them,why don' t you menn there tell
me they don' t exist there. The government puts a good chip on
it, puts a chivalry on theanimal, the dog and detects it how

(40:25):
the dog is doing and if forsome time he is on the street,
he goes and you get fined,they can put you in jail, they
impose tax credits, tax penalties.A whole thing. What happens here,
here, in Mexico, that here, in Mexico, the government is very
easy to have kennels where they killdogs, instead of putting health and hygiene
policies and taking care of the animalsin which they license, refuse to adopt

(40:46):
and carry. All that protocol thenin the kennels. If we have a
case, a friend who is veryactive in this subject, she is admirable.
She is now the director of akennel in the valley of Mexico that
has already turned her into a morelike a dog sanctuary. When she arrived,
we were put together in tacuras,that they tcut the worst, that

(41:06):
there were corpses and there were tubsand electrocute them. Well, they go
as a bank or they go thenthere is still a lack of good action
from the authorities and yes, unfortunately, it is a reality that exists right
now our country. Well, it' s fine that we talk about this

(41:27):
in the end. I mean,the truth is, I hadn' t
gotten so empathetic with animals at somepoint. I was like a dog,
I mean, my dad always hadGolden Retriever dogs and farmers. We had
one I grew up with one thatwas a mixture of malts and pekinese.
It was called in such a pia. So, yes, but they gave

(41:49):
him epileptic seizures. Then. Butbecause he was always with us and the
two dogs, they got lost.I mean, my mom would open them
up too, and once they didn' t come back. So, like,
always, I' ve always beenlike with animals. I was taught
that not only by my parents,because they empathized me with people, but
with animals. And now that Ihave a falcore that finally, it'

(42:13):
s like, well, if myson, if there comes a point where
you realize that they' re animalsthat need time, honey, that'
s all they need. How doyou see I say and see myself as
this that you said Dani, sonow yes, the dogs, the gatijos.
There is also a cultural issue thatthey are saying nothing, because the

(42:36):
new generations no longer want children,they want dogs. And there is also
one side that is highly critical ofthese new generations who prefer to have perrijos
rather than children. But how arewe going to have children with this inflation,
for God' s sake, that' s why. But we are
seeing this mess, because if itis a critical issue of generations, maybe
then yes, before you could havea child and give them home and everything.

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But how they see this, thiscriticism of the new generations who,
because they no longer want to havechildren. Well, look. I think
it' s everyone' s decision. I believe that yes, today,
I mean, there are a numberof human beings, very high and we
are, in the end, endingthe world, then the carbon footprint left
by a human being. It isvery high that everyone will decide. I,

(43:22):
for example, think I do wantto have children, but I also
think it' s valid to acceptand open up to the mind that you
can have a dog that is partof your family and that you can take
it everywhere. There' s moreand more places, it' s pet
Frandley, there' s more andmore places you can take your dog.
But that should be a matter ofawareness that the dog does have to be

(43:44):
educated. I mean, you dohave to know how to have a dog,
because, because there are people whoare not dogs and if you go
to a place and people come andjump and suck him. And that,
then, is not right either,because it is also to respect your space.
Then I think that in the rightway, you can invite people to
respect your own decisions. And whoeverwants to have children, fuck, who

(44:05):
wants to have dogs, well fuck, but everyone who respects their spaces and
who knows how to have them properlyneither you are of dogs and children,
walk them with leash, please,and come again. So if he educates
us he supposes that the law stipulatesthat you have to pass the dogs on
leash, not that he' sout there taking them off even for a
matter of woe to another human being, but I go with my puppy maybe

(44:29):
detail small and I can attack him. A dog without a leash that comes
near a dog of great size andgood has happened that even I think the
countess hears quite that kind of confrontation. Of course, in fact, it
is sanction in Mexico City, inthe environmental care regulations, it is sanction
in the city. He told mehe doesn' t bring the more and

(44:49):
in he brings the fiverhoea he doesn' t lift his cess completely why that
can happen And to me and tome it' s happened that again the
month with a leash, another onebrings him loose and they tell me it
' s very quiet. But dogshave their personality, because they may be
a quiet dog to mine or theother way round they follow us well attack
I can control mine, but Ican' t separate the other side.
Then she gets crazy when you tellher, run your dog. Oh,
I' ve been told the mostflaws they' ve ever told me in

(45:12):
life. Yeah, yeah, bytea and exes are bumping into reality.
Let' s see, guys,we' re closing up, but yeah.
I' d like to touch ona subject. A few days ago
it went viral, well, yeah, a few weeks ago a case of
a boy who was taking his dog. I don' t think he had

(45:35):
an emergency on the subway and theyfinally took him out like he was,
that' s if the guards.I understand that there are regulations in the
subway where you can, you haveto have like this one because yes,
like carrying them in the transporter,but I think that a thing like this
was dying and suddenly we see,yes, that is, it does nothing,

(45:55):
for example, to a beautiful one. I' m not saying I
' m going to get into thisthing with activists, not working sex to
the güey, but it does lookdifferent. Anyway, a puppy doesn'
t get all the brute force,from the police force. No. And
then there are things that, then, absolutely nothing happens. I' m
not against brucine so they won't cancel me, because yes, yes,

(46:16):
I' m worth mothers. Butjust to see the difference not of
this, of this difference of policeforce when there is an emergency and when,
because not how they see this triplacks that civilization because, in the
end, the authorities, because intheir house they do not see them as
if they were chickens. And chickensalso have living things that need respect.

(46:39):
And there' s another subject ofverganism, very father, which I already
like very much to get in there, but it' s not the case
this one, but in the endthey see them as objects. Then it
' s like the dog' sworth me moms. And then if I
have the right to hit him becauseI was used to throwing rocks at my
house since I was little, thenhe' s an object. And in
the end, that' s whyI' m going to go with everything,

(47:00):
because I don' t see itserious, no, but there,
I quote with a human being,there, yes, there, if you
get into issues, then that's the subject of awareness. I think
there is a great deal of educationand information to be able to respond to
and react differently to animals. Julián, how do you see to go closing
all this des papalle. If Idon' t know what to say about

(47:22):
that case, but I would liketo, right now, let' s
close that everyone may say something wesay. That' s why it'
s worth adopting. I mean,in my case, I think it'
s worth choosing It' s themost important thing, because you' re
going to see her drown a livingbeing and because, besides, I think
that not only love, but petsalso teach you to sea And that you

(47:42):
' re going to see him surroundedin your whole circle, because by loving
a pet you' re more thangood if you' re going to end
up loving society in general. Okay. What I want to tell you too
is that puppies, kittens, allanimals, are extremely cute and noble beings.
You tell yourself a dog, acat when you are mistreated and have
a home again, always of love, always of love. Then I think

(48:04):
we' re a long way fromMexican society. I say be a little
more human, be more noble,be more sensitive, be more empathetic,
and help them And so with allthis to help. As we told them,
we always have activism and in usthere are many infinite accounts, so
it doesn' t cost them anything. A simple repost changes lives with a
repost. They can make a puppyadopt, make a puppy pay for his

(48:25):
treatment. Anyway, my point iswhenever they can help. Let us be
more sensitive and more human with humansand with the animals of Hulkanni. I
think adopting is changing a life,it' s giving a second chance,
as Julian said. But it's changing a life. And when you
change a life, you change thewhole world. So for more of this,

(48:45):
for more adoptions, for more awarenessand I invite you to get involved,
to get involved, to open youreyes. I know you watch videos
of a dog abuse. It's hard, no one wants to see
it, but it' s what' s happening in society, in the
streets, and then let' sopen our eyes and give voice to those

(49:06):
who don' t have my emi. I look at how it was a
cat person. I think whenever acat comes into your life, open the
door and get out of the street, or it got where it came from.
But you said not this one.When you adopted you change a life,
yours to start with. Then thisone, because they do open the
door to cats and put them torun their dogs. I love it.

(49:28):
I love it because cats are aspecies that is self- adopted, this
one has your house and they don' t want to leave like that anymore,
don' t want it. Inmy case, I would want it
and stay. Please, you seeyou' re going, but there'
s a lot that say oh no. I didn' t want it,
but it started and so, well, I already gave him food and suddenly
already fond of the cat. Iwould just like to highlight what you said

(49:50):
Dani, which is the part ofinclusion. Inclusion is usually LGBT pex,
chávez, chavas, chavos, thatis. I think that' s where
disability comes in, that' swhere socialized people come in, but also
animals, that is, we liveon the same planet. We are at
a time where all literal world weare like dogs and cats, but the

(50:12):
causes are not alien and simply respectfor animals as well. I think that
' s where everything would start.Then take care of people if they see
that they are suffering and as theysay, don' t, I mean,
hug every kind of human being thatalready starts changing this trip of güey
you are. The heterosexual, you' re white, you' re a

(50:36):
fat skinny or privileged blablabla i mean, it' s the same thing and
I think everyone, everyone, thewhole universe that we' re on this
plane, we deserve the same thing. So you already know, chados,
because the one who hits a littlesomething more than many times, not just
in my case, because many timeseven I told Phoebe because you know,
one with a pet, gets totalk to her that crazy part. But
I also love watching videos that sayI wanted to save a life and I

(50:59):
didn' t realize that that lifewas saving me, because obviously, the
sad moments that Foebe accompanies me,in moments of loneliness, I say I
' m not alone it may bethat maybe you don' t have to
tell me anything. But sleeping onmy side, I mean, he'
s helping me a lot, that' s a free therapy that' s
really worth it. Right now.You said so, for example, the
subject of energies. I got atiktok from a boy who didn' t

(51:21):
remember his name, but I startedto follow him and just said that these
animals, these pets, are liketeachers, that is, they come like
to teach you just and they come, because we' re on the same
plane, but they' re definitelylike angels or even demons Sometimes they don
' t, so they are likepeople and these personalities of animals, just

(51:44):
because they teach you no and youalready connect and I remember a lot when
I saw Falcore I saw him andI fell in love completely. There is
a very interesting energy theory that theychoose you that is, and energetically they
are already calling you and that iswhy you answer confalcore that they adopt you,
but from energetically metaphysically they are alreadychoosing you. You know, it

(52:05):
' s very interesting. I'll track you wow later home. Secondly,
we will not apply in another episodeany Chile you cute chavos. Thank
you so much for being here.Hus Dani, you who add something,
because basically for animals, for yourpets, you are their whole world.
Yes, then, mainly that andthank you for this space, thank you

(52:29):
both, the animals through this space, which is so important, thanks to
the whole Community that sees them alland the truth that I am very grateful
to be here to be able totalk about this subject in these spaces.
Please invite them to follow you onsocial networks, that is, on the
personal and also in the clear association, instagram is, games, resents the

(52:49):
United Associations for helping and also Daniswe are always teamwork. So, you
follow that ajos who have very niceand well, I' m like Daniel
azuara with double z. I goup there, I' m an actor,
but I really use my networks togive courage and to be able to

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help animals. So, there werea lot of things there and through that,
because they can support us through thefoundation and well, there we are.
Thanks, mimy, too I mean, you' re gonna stay here
for a few episodes, or Iwas exactly following jose on social media.
It' s all right, allright. There is already the beach like

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on the pso Julián, because wego the chiles chamaco. This was another
chapter. They know that we lovethem, even if they throw us kits
sometimes. That' s how wewant them. This is a place to
have a voice for those who donot have and those who have also we
do not like to shut up.For us too it is and we see
them in another chapter c