Ep 181 ¿Soy adicto al nopor? (con Julián Soto)

En este episodio conocerán a Julian Soto, quien nos cuenta una historia muy personal donde se reconoce como una persona adicta al porno; nos cuenta cómo se dio cuenta y lo reconoció, cuáles fueron las herramientas para sobrellevarlo y cómo lidia con ello hoy en día. ¿Tendrá que ver con cuantas veces me la jalo? o ¿Sólo se trata de ver porno todo el día?, Si lo veo y no me la jalo ¿Igual cuenta?

Episode Transcript

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provide the information and do not representthe opinions or editorial thinking of scandal.
Or that in the day of speakingto Chile and only as we can do

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it no Chile, you moona,returns to you but then when it was
you have to send it to you. No, man. I' ve
been a lot of time, alot of time for a week. I
don' t even remember, Imean, I think over a year.
I don' t even remember.He' s thinking that too I hear.

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She regrets yes, of course,yes, for a little while,
that is to say, she alsoapplies to me with a picture like this
without a shirt and with navas pants, that is, it doesn' t
have to be yes or don't put anything on. Ah yes,
I can imagine there not four lessin the garden gemerculo, hairy of the

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hair. You' re welcome tostart, a squeal of fear. We
' re talking about Nutz, butwhat are we going to talk about?
Today, Adrian presents the kids.First, oh, well, there you
go is the first episode that isgoing to be Julian with us, so
introduce yourself young how it is.My name is Julian Soto and it'
s a pleasure for me to behere with you. Who hino Chile.

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It' s a little more.What do you do that you have where
you' re from. And herewe' ve already removed twenty engraved floors
that don' t all come outin order, so don' t despair.
But we' ve already recorded amillion episodes, but you introduce yourself
to people who don' t knowthat way a little bit more skits good.
I' m from Sinaloa. Iam thirty- two years old,
living in Mexico City for approximately thirteenyears. I' m an actor and
a driver and well, we're having fun here in life. You

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' re gonna have to talk moreslowly, uh,' cause I saw
you talk fast the way it was, like a good Sinaloan. In fact,
yes, you already know me,I already do a little bit of
it, what a fart, howit went on vacation. Güey, whether
luxury, yes chido the first episodewe recorded after Christmas or egg. A
lot of good scolding. Congratulate dalle. He' s got, honestly,

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truck aces. Okay. So,bons I want to make this path of
gradual transition from nut to porn,because it kind of has everything to do
with it, not to see.So, like you, you were saying
that Güey, the last time Isent nou was that today morning I fell
on him at night, but toscrew up or anything like that about Güey,
what a fart, not pa pachónalready if you think that well,

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yes, by the way, Idon' t know or by Chamba,
it' s that Güey to watchthe movie. Güey for Chamba, aha
noot for chambas. Of course,for ah good that suddenly days. I
think I didn' t know,but I knew a few days. I
don' t know if he wasmentioned in those episodes. I am the
creator of content for adults, asproduced as pornography in all its facets,

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that it can be onlyfas, itcan be the producer of whatever I am
that you cannot answer very well toask questions. Well, at least from
my perspective as a gay shoulder thatdoes gay content, but from the old
ones doing everything and fucking idea thetruth also sex work, if I also
fuck and if I fuck my assaround a bar and all when you want

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mamesaja and of course, you canleave your chambas, I mine, all
the radia very well, then ahain us. I feel like in the
world she' s very common tosend the notes. We' ve already
talked about this a thousand or,because I do believe that jotos have as
sexuality much more digested, deconstructed.And so in the end, too.
The way I see it is thatif you see men as similar, like

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one for women, it would bea woman you woman spar if you put
a man together, a woman isodd. The way I see it is
that aim for us, next tothe nuts, people say so, it
' s like sharing what we alreadyknow. Then it' s like it
' s gonna surprise us. Itdoesn' t scare me much more sexual
Well, I don' t feellike that' s a very general idea.
Well, yeah, but the handlingof sexual information, I think that

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' s a very different one.Then I get very interesting, as they
said, that it' s notcommon for you to send knots, while
gays are bathing us with a photoiclethat I' m going to shit you
and photo pipin güey or fixations knowit' s your piece of mine that
I give to the spider. Youcough up a story, even if it
' s for me you know whata gift it is. Even if it
' s not gonna send it,but he' s gonna have it there

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in case you play it, incase someone stops making up a mouth.
Maybe, but I never have timethat I don' t do it I
think I don' t know ayear more than a year yes and how,
to see if I don' t. One thing that seemed interesting to
me is that we were also talkingabout the difference that if I' m
going to meet a girl and maybebe with her, it' s not

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for me it' s not importantto know her naked body before we always
talk about it there, even ifwe want to put a percentage that'
s not accurate, it' san idea. Ninety percent of the time
you never saw the naked girl untilthe moment you' re going to be
intimate with them, which is anothercompletely different universe. Like this unopened ox
to meet you. I have nointerest in the real thing exactly. That
is to say this behind social networksand you already place it. But all

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of a sudden, if you meetsomeone at the time, because maybe things
are gonna happen, or they're not gonna send anything. But I
never feel like I need more.I mean, always, when I know
this one, I' m gonnabe with a girl. I liked his
face. It' s the wayI liked it and I' m willing

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to meet her at the moment.I don' t mind seeing her naked
before and knowing what I' mgoing to get into. I discover it
that night I do not hear verydifferent in our world that then the woman
says this is very pig. I' m not interested in meeting him anymore.
I mean, if there' sa subject you have to deal with
everything you see. That' scool because in the end it doesn'

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t all of a sudden depend onthe person, but it does happen,
so if there' s a conceptor a fucking prejudice Güey is farting at
me, this güey is going tooverdo me and what I' m doing,
what it' s not worth thisgüey, then you have to treat
them together. It' s likeit is, exactly. It also depends
on how it is. I'm telling you, the person doesn'
t have to be built. Youdo remember the players. I disagree.

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Obviously, let' s say you' re dating the girl. If he
tells him that you just met andsent him a light, he' ll
probably think. This does it witheveryone. Then what they all have.
I don' t want to haveit. He' s going that way
too Photo that' s already beenhanging around. Probably not maybe I can
' t even. For me,maybe I' ll be right back if
you can get me into it.There is that bastard, that is,

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he does have a sense of rightnow that I think about it, because,
of course, from a woman's perspective it is, therefore,
the idea of an ideal man,male, male and thus, of a
gentleman. I think exactly, becauseobviously you don' t take nude photos.
This doesn' t exactly have afolder of photos of people who are
not going. And I feel likeI don' t, too, and

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I' m gonna hook it up, and they don' t watch porn
either. I feel like straight mendon' t suck at the idea with
a woman, they shouldn' tbe high porn consumers. Men are women.
Men already, i e women thinkor expect men not to be a
porn user. John less not constant, you see for no. Yeah,
yeah, I could see it opensup a lot of porn and good I

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' m just leaving. I've been on a not- horror titox
for a long time now. I' ve been in a not- ford
potty for a while, and Ifeel good, I really feel like I
was hurting my life, and that' s why I took that. I
want to be so yes exactly Iwant me to go with a tobacco to
watch re fucked up. All right, I want to think I' m

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saying it' s worse. It' s not because of the diary thing,
I mean, I might see ittoo unpacked. I' d just
like no, no, no,I mean, you know that at the
motel I know I call him yes, because I do consider that he was
in an addiction, that is,that' s why I call him little,
because well, to see, addictionis a strong word. We'
re talking as a matter of coursewe' re not going to talk about

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health here, because it' snot our fort, nobody x is a
doctor, or anything. But,okay, I understand your position that you
think it was already too much,already affected your pace of life, that
is, it affected my pace oflife, my social circles, my social
capacity, my concentration, that is, I started looking for what I thought
the, what opinion psychology has forpornography. And when they started talking about

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the symptoms of whether you' rea porn addict, this one you'
re going to present these symptoms andI saw them all reflected in my day
to day was that I realized thatI was dragging ok lack of concentration,
a constant search for dopamine and,obviously, pornography. I just couldn'
t be in a place without sayingit already. I want to get home

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because I need to watch porn hasa need, you know, but it
' s not the same. Seeingfor not pulling it, not ok Your
goal was to see for not comingto you aha just. One of the
symptoms of the division in pornography isthe ending, not the end of the
search. It' s the searchin itself that causes you trouble. Just

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last night I saw that thory CrusI don' t know if they place
him in pon Gavan is where theblondes are that we all like super well.
In fact, he won last yearto the least hated person on the
planet, so everyone likes him verymuch. He also talks about him being
you. He had addiction. Hehid his wife for twenty years and I
liked to read. I got into see more of his testimony of what

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he had to tell and I feltvery identified, because he said to a
friend bro how you' re goingto be addicted annopor, and he told
him brother if it' s dayand that day becomes night and you keep
seeing, clearly you have a problemand above all if it was a day.
It is only repeated and repeated andrepeated. Then believe me there'
s a problem because what happened tome. I was invited friends to the

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party and I' d rather stayin the house consuming videos even at the
party. So it' s alreadyaffecting me in the social system. I
love reading. I stopped reading,because I already wanted to say good fifteen
minutes. But what happens. Whatpsychology tells you is that there is no
human being has no biological limit tostop seeing no. But I mean,

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let' s say you eat,let' s say they bring us food
and we' re all eating andthere comes a time when you feel satisfied
and you can say up here I' m going to eat no more if
you' re in the gym andyou say since it was a lot of
exercise, I can stop and I' m going home with the NOP there
' s no limit. Then youcan consume hours and hours and hours and
more, because we all have somethingcalled a reward effect. Then the reward

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effect with the nopport is affected.Then he does why. That' s
the explanation of why you can lastfive hours looking for this one with content
videos and obviously you' re grabbinga callousity that you' re increasingly looking
for denser videos or what you didyesterday, which you didn' t get
until yesterday you saw what stimulated you, today it doesn' t stimulate you.

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Then it becomes a problem, becauseyou stop your celio ur your concentration
varies, your goals in life beginto get unbalanced and your whole life begins
to turn to satisfy that desire.I mean, I haven' t gotten
to that point, but, forexample, I did pull it up often
and I' m often telling youthat I can be in the morning,

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in the afternoon and in the evening, I could someday. Not clear and
all of a sudden, because I' m not anymore, as well as
I' m going to imagine.You don' t have to see if
I' m cute at the postand I' m coming and so I
mean it. But I don't know if it' s that addiction
anymore I don' t know why, for example, here I want you
to do I don' t haveto do things because, I mean,

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I don' t want five thousandhours ore. Yeah, Güey, I
mean apart, I can do itas fast as I want. So,
Güeno, you' re gonna talkdifferent things, because yours is masturbation.
This one more and he' sfocused on that in the clear is like,
the beo mine I' m,I' m the one who wants
to enjoy and I tell him I' ve released for myself in whatever you
want, but you make sense.It helps you relax. I mean,

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nature has a thousand infinite benefits whenyou wake up or when you fall asleep,
and if I can' t sleep, it' s Güey' s
a little jacket and Güey' syou shut up good, which was the
first time you saw it. Youremember, yes, of course, I
remember very well. Hahaja de yacuremembers that I already think that Ahorita is
going to s and Ahorita I willsing the anecdote and I think it was

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like those that will be about teneleven years old like at eleven years old.
But who Aho came in and showedyou some specks. Oh, Güey,
he realizes you see on the cable. They have another choice there where
I buy movies, not some.Then I knew the key. Then one
day penddling I put in the keyand I saw I started was the first

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time I saw for no and saidno, Mames and I said that explicit.
I said wow, I mean.I said no. I' ve
never seen anything like it and Iwas worried about the bill that I was
gonna get to my dad and Isaid I' m gonna get snagged.
They never told me anything, butI did tell my friends I said no,
moms, notice that ten And thisis like I said wow. I

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remember that the first time I sawporn was at a friend' s house
who also joto me. But well, he was doing the strate there and
Güey saw just that kind of pay- per- view content and yeah,
I really liked it. Actually,I really like heterosexual porn. The net
is you know we were used toit. Well, I was used to

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watching, for example, Golden moviesthat are more erotic and all of a
sudden you see that and you sayay Güey. It wasn' t really
like I thought it was then.I mean, because that' s not
porn, that' s five erotic. Yeah, it' s exactly like
erotic, because there wasn' tany explicit. You don' t explain
it two or you see those things, but then, as if you'

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re standing, you see how youdo it but you don' t see
it. Yes exactly today, butwhen I saw it I said nay güey
I said I didn' t knowhier, yes, yes, no,
I mean sorry that, but youliked me yes, yes, yes,
I learned you, you don't like it no. I saw that
back then, Right now, Iappreciate it as art not as for ja
yes, but at that time Ithink it was small iguan. I remember

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my first time being about eleven.But I told him there what moved,
what this is, I mean,I don' t understand how you'
re a little joke you know becausebesides the man, he never shows anything.
If it looks like a hip inthe back and a half buttocks or
something, but I was from todaytoo, I want to see, but
I feel like you enjoy a hottie, because you kind of focus on the
bat as an asset, pull outyour dick. If that' s what

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you imagine, this is what she' s doing for her, I don
' t like the sex act itself, I mean, be heterosexual, be
gay, that is, and howto see that I see the passive.
So, if he' s straight, the passive is a woman, then
I don' t get excited.You know that because the ptivo, because
more active, you know. Butyou came to see. Obviously psychic,

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of course I know what a vaginalooks like, that is, but as
an art you already sometimes tell yourselfabout art. No, because last year
it was an exhibition of paintings ofthe body and it was nice plane.
Now, so abstract to see then, returning little bit to the addiction part,

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I do not believe or consider myselfto have an addiction to porn.
Yeah, I like the word addictionsounds pretty strong, but I think it
' s a session or it's an addiction. And I and I
can tell you examples of my lifehere, because I already trust you.
The episode' s yours,'cause you got your porn addict off.
So, he' s going tosee how it affected you, what damage

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he did, what it cost yousocially. But I don' t know
financially, for example, or Idon' t know. I mean,
yes, I' d like tounderstand the truth. Yeah, of course,
financially, you could say it's just that everything becomes, pornography,
it becomes the center you are.I was working, I was in
a place of change and I wantedto finish up to go home and consume
pornography. Then it becomes like mylow work of excellence, to be anxious

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and obviously also good guy you're an actor. You weren' t
on the road, you didn't have anything to do. You were
just looking at the cell phone asa filler. Not really, because I
' ve always been trying to besuper professional and super located in the places
I' m in and it kindof becomes also a ritual of only in
my home, in my room.But it becomes a despair and it causes
you even anxiety of the already want, already I want to come to my

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house for then, to do whatI like most in the world. How
much was exactly how much you temptedin this span. I don' t
mean, because I think the firsttime I consumed pornography. It was at
fourteen years old and I left itin stages, that is to say that
I identified perfectly that when I fellin love with a girl and started a
relationship, porn was no longer necessary. I exterminated him in my life and

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he was very motivated. But somethinghappened in the relationship that I said,
well, I don' t cometo teach ethics or dwell on it.
I' m saying it' sokay, I' m wrong. I
' m saying the problems you've caused me. There comes a time
like maybe in the middle of relationships. It always started with normal consumption and
that' s when the wishes ofmaybe being with other girls started, seeing
other girls. Then my partner stoppedhaving my focus because I was starting to

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fantasize. Obviously, one of theeffects of pornography is that you start to
bring objects back to people, startseeing them in pieces and start leaving love
or what you feel for someone elseon your side, because you just want
to live what you just saw,you want to have it in your life.
Let' s just say you justsaw a threesome. You want to
have that threesome. And if you' re in pairs becomes impossible, then

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you' re irritated by not beingable to do what your fantasies want to
achieve. Like high expectations. Alsothat was the port that has infinite expectations
that are very difficult to fulfill.How long it takes a man to come,
how long he has to be,as well as the swinging or pumping
movement that already since it has tobe constant gey people get tired you know,
there are many factors that look goodwith clothes, certain positions so that

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I don' t know the lingerieor whatever it looks good, but by
the reality is that you get well. So or so I know long,
because in the end you do goto the professional level all this motherhood.
I want to see you finish listeninglike this side as the problem. You
know that there is truth, yes, I want to understand it and then
you already beat that I have madeyou, as well as all my experience,
that or that the net I haveas a very different experience, not

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so much because that hetero, notbut as of personal satisfaction, realization,
self- love, etcetera. SoI think I' m gonna kick it
in, he' s gonna putall this together, and then I'
ll tell them mine. Yeah,of course, I mean, my search,
I' m totally aware that itwas to fill a gap that obviously,
at the time in the search forbetter content, I mean, I

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could have ten tabs open with differenttypes of content. It lasts for good
not in one trio, in another, orgies, in another situation, perhaps
pornography as from hitcom. I don' t know, so they were like
personifications of a certain movie, thepornofa and I had it open and I
didn' t know which one toconsume and I didn' t know how
I did it to you. Myend was not to end. It was
the search that excited me and obviouslyit could take five hours and I'

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ll be there, it' llbe there hooked on the plot. I
noticed the tumults constantly, that is, you didn' t even have any
stops. I was watching it.There were moments where I was masturbating already
moments where it was not necessary.Just watching and visual excitement. There is
a fact that seems super shocking tome that it is today, as the
pornographer is within one click and isfree. Of course, it' s
free, which makes it very attractive. I explain it' s like free

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wow, because we' re goingto give it and it gives me more
incredible pleasure. But we' resupposed to. In ten minutes, I
' m obviously putting up now pureologies. In ten minutes, I can
see more naked bodies than I sawall my ancestry, my grandfather, my
grandfather' s grandfather. I cansee in ten minutes more naked bodies than
you saw everyone had thought I'd read it. Yeah, so our

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mind comes to a point where you' re saturating it' s seeing so
many naked bodies that biologically tell you. You' re not ready, because
it just happened. We live inthe time when the computer came to us.
Pornography passed the computer. At firstit was you know the photo that
was going ting ting little by littledownloading. But right now it' s

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like the Internet. It is superagile and you can watch in an hour
how many videos you can not shootall with infinity. So it' s
like too much about excitement for allof our psyche. I also realized that
I had a problem, that is, obviously when I decided to do this
porn dot, because I considered thatI had all the characteristics that an addict
has, comparing them with addiction totheir cravings, to people I said,

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okay, it' s hurting meand I started to remember my memories of
seeing when I could be affected andI turned to see my last relationship and
realized that on many occasions, evenI fought on purpose with my ex-
partner so I could go home andwatch pornography without anyone bothering me. Then
I said I was sometimes looking forconflict to fight my being able to go
home and not be with her becauseyou can' t tell her how she

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hears. I' m going togo to the other room to see because
I felt sorry already when you're hiding, of course you know something
you' re doing well and notapart, you' re not sharing it
with your partner, then something getsweird that wasn' t there. I
hadn' t thought about it.So, what do you think about your
old lady watching porn, for example, I don' t care when John
is seen porn together. Yeah,yeah, yeah. Sometimes like ok expe

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now you avoid it. I'll do it right now. I'
m avoiding it. I mean,I haven' t been at Titox that
long. I mean today, it' s just that I started embroidering it,
I started embroidering it in two parts. This I decide from the middle
of last year I already wanted to, like make a decision to at least
lower it, I mean, likemaybe if you consume me seven days a
week, because it doesn' thave more and I wouldn' t have

(21:45):
done it anymore. But if it' s seven days a week, I
mean, I' m going tosee him three days a week, so
I' m going to let himdown. I think it' s healthier
Monday, Wednesday and Friday goes,but there came a time when you can
' t, because Saturday you're early on Sunday and you' re
going to be permissive to yourself andI couldn' t find, I couldn
' t find the way. Obviously, as my decisive day was the first
January. I said no more consumption, but I couldn' t find the

(22:08):
tools. I said how I'm going to leave it, because it
' s going to be moments likeany one like you want to give up
any addiction. That' s awithdrawal syndrome that gives you anxiety and I
' ve had it or tonant situations. Of course, you see a bad
day or this boring mood, yourmood is irritated or to answer badly and
not know why. So I saidhow I' m gonna do it so

(22:29):
I can handle that, and Ineed to find arguments That' s when
I started looking for what I thoughtabout pornography psychology and what tools. It
gives me the video that I foundgood, one of the videos that of
the many that I saw wishes ittakes forty days of editoks for your mind
to return to the original wiring ofpleasure reward, that is the reward of
effectiveness that it tells you. Okay, I don' t need it anymore,

(22:53):
so it' s already a decisionof my own to say, okay,
I can watch two videos and cuthim and no longer a I don
' t know how to cut him, because that happened to me. I
was an hour ago and it wasfive hours because I couldn' t stop
then. That' s why Isaid time was going to blow up.
Time was passing, as I saida little while ago the day would turn
to night and I would keep seeingand obviously, it would irritate me,

(23:15):
cause me. You' re supposedto generate so much resistance to pleasure,
that finding pleasure in everyday life isso hard for you, because there are
things that excite you more than seeing. I' m going to, for
example, a sunset. I wasno longer provoked by the same thing because
my body needed more dopamine than itdid at sunset and it obviously might seem
absurd. But if it' sone, if it' s super culero

(23:40):
to say if I don' tget by rografia in my day I can
' t find reasons to get thepleasure and to be happy. Yeah,
what we said was no, thatmany times you connect with certain points where
you say good. I think so, I' ve been like this sometimes,
but then I don' t connectwith others it is. When I
say I will be or will notalso be addicted to pornography, or maybe
I am addicted to the best insmall amounts, or I don' t

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know how to determine this a levelof addiction. Well, I think if
you' re addicted, that's a lot. Yes, consider how
many and how few. Yeah,yeah, but you had to do this
conscious exercise of looking for yourself Youwent with a psychologist or something like that
Yes, of course, because ifI wasn' t going to have the
tools clear, because there are easydays, so I' m saying it
' s more, I haven't had them easy days. I haven
' t had them since I decidednot, because, obviously, as in

(24:29):
everything we generate to see, I' m then how long you' ve
had editoxs a month very well fza month yes, a vain month you
or we go ten days. Tas da come on. But obviously I
want because of my personal situation,because, whatever, you tell me.
I can if you tell me,listen Julian, but I watch porn,
but I don' t think Ihave an addiction. I' m still
consuming. I' m going totell you, because it' s your
decision, or I intend to sayleave it. Everyone, uh, because

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it hurts everyone and what a dangerit is. Maybe it is how to
become aware of this can happen andwe can normalize it, but we can
' t. You have to turnto see your life has brought me problems,
I have had problems both individually andas a couple. As I thought
it was me, it' sme, Twillitox also gets masturbation. There

(25:11):
also comes already messi masturbating without masturbating, but not only if it is not
always thanks, without also being withany person. Okay, why even on
Instagram, even on Instagram, Imean, I' m going content that
I changed my algorithm before, andthat I wanted to get there too if
you have, because there' sa point where you' re going to

(25:33):
say. I was looking for womenand all of my i e, you
' re looking to be here sour, i e mine are pure men.
Yeah, and obviously it' slike not there. Seeing that, obviously
I said no, because I don' t want to imagine it anymore,
I want to see it, maybenot the same person, but I want
to look for something similar, andinfinity free content. So that' s

(25:53):
how I, like me, cameup with social media, social media,
but it came to a point because, obviously, you' ve all progressively
been once as only Fanson. That' s the truth. No, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I was excited to get paid tosee someone specific, because as I
was, the other content, whichis free and you can see a lot

(26:14):
of people different from all the complexionsof all sizes, it was like I
don' t need it. That' s called piracyaja, that' s
the truth, yeah, that's all nice content is pirateal. None
of the producing pages give you theircontent right now because of what I'
ve seen, like these port hobby. So this is the new mode of
creators that if you realize, whenyou can know, well, at least

(26:37):
in these pages not the videos,some at the beginning of the video comes
out as an animation of content creatorand I don' t know what dick
and the video starts. I've seen a second, two seconds.
That' s like the content thatif they make that amateur or a page
or whoever it is and uploads itfor free to the page, but the
vast majority of free porn is pirate. What you give me goes up like

(27:03):
an intro and ready for you toconsume for everything. But if you take
off any porn producing page, anyonehas the content that they show and have
you know the tranle ultiso as amovie, no, but you have the
trailer is grati and you see itanywhere as the cinema. No. The
trailer you see everywhere, but themovie you have to stop him from going
into the movies, not unless Güeyand then the government said and put in

(27:26):
you know if I give practice,we put in a movie. I can
' t understand. But in theend, that' s all not because
he' s in the race,because in the end he' s a
pirate and we' re going tokeep consuming him because for free I say
no. If he' s nothere, he doesn' t have the
pride. But if I' mgoing to come out, this is going
to put us in ethical values.I don' t, because I have
to go pay at least for it. But why do you take leeth out
of sex work? No. That' s why he told you we'

(27:48):
re not gonna get into that plan. Like, we' re not gonna
judge him already if you' rewatching, because you don' t show
up. I' m not goingto pay for the money That creator is
still paid for and he hears becausehe already has sin already almost all the
porno that he consumes is paid preciselybecause his content zucchini. I understand I
' ve also spent my working lifeand you become a number of specifics.
There' s a month so yousay I' m already so much.

(28:11):
But if Güey spent ten percent onironing a bar on seeing something like that,
as long as one doesn' tgo, I won' t say
the" yes" of my singa, but Güey suddenly hastens to gey no
and Güey liked it and said ayay a egg. I want to,
I want to see it, Iwant to see it literally, but I
don' t see it the wayI' m giving it. I mean,

(28:32):
wow, you' re giving orpaying off your money, but I
don' t see it as anexpense. I see it with an investment
to me, that is Güey,which is really for is also my pleasure.
If Güey is a gold. Ofcourse, if this bastard is okay,
he' s generating me like somekind of morbid, or he'
s turning me on and he's got, because this is this non

(28:59):
- blue pupinite, I say weyas well not bull or I' m
going to invest in my pleasure güey. I don' t see it as
an expense, I see it asan investment. And the reality is that,
I mean, we' re veryused to it because sex itself,
because it' s a taboo,it' s very stigmatized, it can
generate some awkward situations, for example. But the reality is that, because
it is a trade wey has protocols, has health system, has payment methods,

(29:21):
has regulations in certain countries, notin Mexico, unfortunately, and among
that you have to learn to dothe responsible consumer, just as they did
my dad' s big campaign ishis pirate dad, because someday with sex
work it is much more digested.There' s gonna be campaigns where people
say güey I' m a pirateguy. You' re not making this
up. Not so much for now, Pirate you know and it will be

(29:42):
very cool. But the reality isthat I always invite all the people who
net gene are aware of what theyconsume. I' m not telling you
not to. It' s alsoa moment before it existed, when we
all rented movies in Blockbuster, youknow, I also bought the movie Pirate,
or the movie Pirate rented it ina pirate stall you know clearly it
did. You have to admit,you' re all right. But from
there take the reference and say thereare ways to consume. Not even.

(30:04):
I think that, perhaps as arecommendation, if you had been in a
topical, magical world different responsibility,a responsible consumer, you would have been
limiting in your level of consumption,speaking, for example, specifically money or
just paying for certain pages, thenthere are not so many options limiting your
consumption and perhaps you would not havecome to yourself clearly to develop a kind

(30:25):
of vice. I' m justlistening to you, and I' m
thinking. I imagine there' sa stop, let' s say I
decide to go in and consume yourvideos. There comes a time when I
' m running out. No,I mean, it' s not infinite.
The problem with the pages is thatit' s infinite. He'
s got a number that I thinkyou' ll never get to the end
of even if you dedicate a wholechild to him. Of course and of
excessive content that bombards the mind notand is that also the industry, because

(30:49):
it is not designed for that.When the issue of pornography and my documentaries
exploded, you can search Netflix forone very interesting one about le Porthup,
where you were studying sex workers andthe truth I don' t remember what
it' s called. But thenwe put it in the description. There
came a time when obviously you don' t have an erection anymore, because
no longer on the roads it getsthis excited, so it comes out air
to you, but because all thattime you' re not there, I

(31:11):
didn' t come all that time. I mean, I was gonna come
and wait and expect you to dothat too. Hey, that' s
bad, uh, sure, butthis nothing is. He' s fucked
up. This is something I wasgoing to tell you then, seeing the
same God that I had already selectedthat would supposedly excite me a lot,

(31:32):
I would put them and say nolonger excite me. Before I had to
do a search for the video.I was saying there must be a hidden
person who' s going to exciteme right now where I' m no
longer excited by anything, and Istarted a two or three- hour search
for that video that I learned again. It' s not that what I
do imagine is also that there mustbe ten times more heterosexual than homosexual.
You think, of course, there' s more people literally good, well,

(31:55):
yeah, yeah, yeah, it' s mostly consumers, there'
s more customers, there' smore producers and more of reality and they
' ll have in butter? How? Like, if I' m the
enterosexual porno master, I' mnot sure the porno had taken much longer
to get out. Yeah, moreattentive porn pops into a pot like 70s
was the research task. If someoneyou know or have knowledge of the first

(32:19):
pornographic video Güey, this one letsyou put it spit I think it must
have been when the Güey cameras started, that is, the net one,
from photography to the camera, alreadywith the focus of the by no,
but yes with a focus of recordingthe body and the art, because remember
that good cameras came out. Thegoal was you know the art and the
fucking mother, not the moving photographyand it was more yes. I feel

(32:42):
it was more, much more artistic. I think it' s like something
so natural. Surely, the directorwho was filming told someone that someone had
to think about it and that's how he was born for him.
Not of course, because he stillremembers that he was from that erotic photos
and all are magazines and so on, I mean, of course, that
the consumption of regardless whether it's video or photography, because it'

(33:04):
s either alone, but they alreadyhave to think it' s more consumable
of heterosexual than I' m surethere' s little. But grificos and
moms are the rains. They're ballshits. Of course, I don
' t think you have the potsthese in the memes like the pots that
have the ah drawings that the peopleare listening to add this which is the
port, so it' s artin the end, that is, I

(33:27):
don' t think heterosexuals consume more. I believe that the man in general,
the gay or heterosexual man, arethe consumers of donkeys. I mean
not really, not that it's either, we' re men in
general the net. I think sotoo, because it is satisfactory to say
that for me that too is anotherproblem. He realizes that I end my
relationship and I say I don't want to be with another person I

(33:52):
instantly don' t want to hurtany woman by making her believe that we
can have something by being intimately determined, as I say, somehow living in
cassity for a time to heal thewound of the relationship I had. Then
I say," Well, I' m going to consume or I'
m going to consume porn, becausethat' s how I don' t
need anyone" I can stay alonein my house. Then my consumption began
to grow ace, covered the need. Of course, the problem was when

(34:13):
the need became the center and obviously, you abused the consumption. Ah busela
consumption. And that' s whereI identified the problem, when I already
said I don' t need anyoneanymore, because as long as I have
my cell phone in my hands,I already have access to the world from
eight of the night to five ofthe morning, that is, there were
times that I lasted from eight ofthe afternoon or night, as we want

(34:37):
to consider, until five of themorning. That' s where I started
identifying. I have a serious problem, a being because, obviously, my
energy and my development had consequences forme the next day. But also and
that I had not shared it toothere were times when, obviously, spending
so much time watching pornography, mybody was hurt, that is, my
parts, my genitals were hurt frombeing masturbated so much. And yet,

(35:00):
the next day, even if ithurt, I did it again in pain.
So I said this is already aproblem, because even in pain this
one seeks to continue feeling the pleasureof masturbation, but it hurts one part,
There is pleasure another part and pain, but I am willing to cope
with it with such duty pornography.And then I' m already seeing that

(35:20):
I do. So, yes,it is very different. I mean it
' s happened to me Hey,you think, but that' s when,
when, when, when do youstart having physical pain or do you
still want it? And you stillwant it? Pull. Yeah, and
it just gets out of hand.I mean, there were days that I
said today I' m not goingto, or I started the day by
saying today I' m not goingto. I' m going to take
a break, at least today andat night I was hooked again, but

(35:40):
it was because I couldn' tstop. I mean, I couldn'
t stop, although my conviction duringthe day was not today, not today,
and suddenly I was in the gym. Ah well, I trained.
I' m going to dinner today, I' m going to see a
movie, and I' m goingto sleep. My plans were ruined because
something was happening that maybe it startedout as good and if a little bit
and it was a lie that Iwas lying to myself, I was already

(36:01):
cheating on myself and I couldn't stop. Well, you' ve
had that fart. Yeah, sothis power, like the powerlessness of wanting
to see something and leaving my socialcircle for going to even make it necessary.
No. No, I didn't get to that point. That

(36:22):
' s not why it' snot cool to talk about it either,
because in the end you probably knowin fact or keep going what are the
exercises you' re doing right nowto deal with that situation. Of course,
what I started to do, obviously, was what I told them about
Instagram, this part of it urgeda little, at least if I appeared
a photo this remove it. Istarted placing things that I wanted to be

(36:43):
shown algorithm. I' ll setan example for myself. I really like
cats cats hashtag fitness. Then startlooking all day for that one as if
over and over again all those hashtacksthat I created for you to do and
instruct me this interests me to letme prove women and that my loopa when
looking for it, will stop mefrom appearing. And just now, it
' s not that weird anymore.When he shows up to see me,

(37:05):
I want to see your os andyou retire so consider Finns sell an old
one like that, pure memes,memes, motivational phrases. I really like
literature. Changos Cristiano Ronaldo, fortwo do. I like to see.
I want, I want to seethat everyone doesn' t show, everyone
shows it already great wait I havelook, let' s see, wait

(37:31):
to see yan. There' sthe first thing that came out to see
me there you' re looking at. I want to see your car,
if there are two or three rucas. I football you and cars, where
it is and they saw no,not much, uh, it' s

(37:51):
more football and good here comes LaurelMiranda up here, you saw the shine
rise ten hahahahahaja this TDH that fartedgüey That was interesting when you tell me
to appear takes care of an inciendoa andalgas that man, man, man

(38:15):
plants because I like plants and isa woman of plants and PSS and my
aquariums and you say once again thatout is chido wey en rene. No,
I don' t. Or aman lying with his buttocks up and
spice gers, no yes, manymen güey eh yes. I think that
' s an exercise more ok toseek super important help than psychotherapy. And

(38:38):
apart from this, I attended aChristian church and got into a Ditoks course
that is called one day at atime that I just really liked the title
because I, if I imagined alife without pornography. I think it'
s too much. It gave meanxiety, just to imagine a life without
consuming. But when I said it' s going to be one day at
a time and if in a week, then I' ll fall back,

(39:01):
then I' ll go back,but and I start again, I said
that allayed my anxiety. Let's go one day at a time.
I' d like to know howyou do it to evade that anxiety the
moment she arrives a certain time ofday and starts those ideas, that energy
again like to get you clear howyou do it to say I' m

(39:22):
not going to do it. Yes, I understand you because the winnings have
not been eradicated, they have diminishedand it is getting easier. But the
first few days, obviously I'd say it' d be worth it.
I forgot about this. Everything thatcan do to you Lizards you eat
a sandwich, ok you challenge her, Your mom, I start to do
what I liked and I had forgottenwhat I did before I consumed pornography,

(39:43):
which is, read a book,watch a movie, this call it here
that we' re going to passyou point less for a coffee. I
explain to myself how, in anutshell, we' re going to do
everything that you just left and youwant to do that again. That became
a problem because I' m notdoing what I used to like anymore.
Then I came back as my dailyroutine and obviously, things that are more
productive to me. But, forexample, and you said it, right

(40:06):
now, I mean, it's one day at a time what happens.
Or well you' re afraid ifyou go back to consuming, I
mean, you' d be afraidof what would come to someone you say
I' m already in control andto see him and go back to my
life the first few days I wasscared, that is, it was like
it had already become a guilt.Today, I don' t take him
on with guilt. I' mon board with responsibility for being very aware

(40:28):
of this. That' s whataffected me and what I didn' t
like to be affected by. ButI can' t even live blaming myself
for why you wasted so much time, because if we add it up to
the hours I consumed, I thinkwe get to half two languages. Güey
learning, two languages would have read, that is, books in the time
that is lost. Yeah, Imean, I would' ve made lives.
I mean, I wouldn' tsee it that way. It would

(40:49):
be like I had a fart,I overcame what shit I flip back and
I say, I mean, I' m not going to say it like
ay Güey, I' ve alreadylost all this time, because, well,
yes, Güey, we' veall wasted time doing, fart,
let people walk or no, butI don' t even see it,
but I haven' t been ableto recognize what was in the way,
I didn' t, but Icould have saved it a lot. Yeah,
no, because a lot of timesGüey says, oh Güey, how

(41:09):
I' ve spent time, hangingout with this ex is no waste of
time, just because that' show your reality happened. Today you saw
it and in the end it is, if not, I am very happy
and because I believe an expanding yearpassed WEY now it is as well,
passed WEY but obviously, I havelearned so much that to take care of

(41:30):
myself more, to love myself moreAnd it has been so much thanks to
me that I realized since I passed. That' s why. Obviously,
the fault was because, in away, I' m not saying my
relationship failed. That' s exactlywhy, because I also take responsibility for
other things that fail my relationship.But he did attribute certain behaviors that I
had for which my relationship became alittle bit, as it was difficult to

(41:52):
cope with this from me. Younever talked about it with him, I
never even read it and I didn' t talk about it with this ex
- partner I had. I've never talked about it. Well,
I identified, obviously turned back allthe problems I had and that porn was
the source for me to have certainbehaviors, attitudes, make certain decisions.
All of it. Wow. So, that' s why I' m

(42:13):
to blame, right now, Idon' t see it with guilt.
I live it with responsibility and happinessof life, say, I got the
best time to realize it was thisone I' m living, that chido
and I can change my story fromhere on out. It' s andrés
you realize. It' s amazingthe theories of success, of course,
I mean, I don' treally like it. I mean, I
' ve always said that tonetxo isbad, dot ox anything literal can be

(42:36):
harmful and after clear, a limitgoes. But if you found, then
I support religion, for example,in your case I find it incredible.
I' m more of a tevoin the world. I can never let
you go there, but yeah,well, that works for you. It
' s perfect, so I seeit as a circle of help more or
less, or what I agreed wasreligious. Yes, of course, then

(42:57):
you might have a very efficient communicationchannel with your amis who really understand and
plant them the right way. So, then, they can obviously help you
with therapy as well. I guess, there are these leadership courses that are
like a bunch of people who gotogether and find your problems with their eyes
closed and then they will carry andso all this other tess I mean also
güey that is if your there areways to help, if it is not

(43:19):
perfect or not. I have nothingagainst this. Rather, I think my
evidence is so different. In relationto pornography, I' ve never really
felt any addiction, much less.In fact, I consider myself a person
of low sexual libido, very lowok but for me cha me chamba then
like that one is good and hasgood performance. It makes you want things.
It' s three days you seethis is a thousand tricks. They

(43:40):
tell you the new one, butdefinitely not. I don' t mean,
I' m really happy with thetruth and you' re going.
So, it' s perfect.I see him as an alcoholic. I
' ve been fucking for a monthto see comfortable we go for the second
and third and so you know andso here you are and so if you
want to sell us next month howit is I fell another wey the best

(44:02):
is red notice that saw a GoatGaback. What if at a given moment
a girl presents you with a chanceand what you' re going to say
no or prefer, like that's another. I have, I have
seen a lot and I feel thatit also has a lot to do with
your specific situation. Right now,you' re in this coughing process that
you didn' t just leave theporn, but you quit the whole sexuality

(44:22):
thing. You might think you're missing a chance that you could be
found with both sexual and romantic people. No, I don' t think
I' m worse off. I' m not doing it with a sacrifice
of pain. Well, I haveto do this and go on a forced
march like a good thing I haveto sacrifice myself. I' m not
really seeing him like that. Sofar it hasn' t been clear to

(44:44):
me that I have desires. Imean, my libido to control yours isn
' t low, it' shigh and fair. I stopped practicing sexuality,
but it doesn' t mean Idon' t have a sexuality in
my life. I explain myself,of course, that is, I see
a woman. If I know awoman right now, I' d like
to woo her and meet her andunderstand her from another point before I sleep
with her. But to me,too, that seems a sexuality, an
intimacy to carry it from desire,because the treasure I cannot have, but

(45:07):
we can wait. But yes,it has to be attractive to you.
Yeah, sure, sure, yeah, sure, yeah, yeah, I
think to be an ox, thatis, in the end, Güey,
I think that' s what you' re saying. Uh- huh I
mean, I mean, Güey,you' re not a stick. Yes,
I mean, I saw a seea woman I love and of course
I can say I would love tomake love to her and that fuck to

(45:28):
meet her during this process of editoxsfor a few good months and live this
experience from what it was like inrelationships, even before it was postponed until
when it happened it was like fireworks. I explain why we all know that
postponing a pleasure will cause you greaterpleasure. The moment they happen. You
' d tell him, I'd tell him clearly that yes, yes.
For me it is indispensable to be100% honest with the next person

(45:52):
I am going to meet, becauseI just hid so much for so long
and with my ex- partners,because just this problem was not only with
one of the couples I had,but I identified the problem with all the
exprejas I have had and said atall times as long as when I became
a consumer of pornography, it waswhen the relationship began to fail. I

(46:13):
stress. I don' t wantto blame pornography for being the great yoke
the executioner of my relationships. Notbecause there were other things too, but
it did affect me. Yeah,I added trouble to the relationship that I
did for hiding it, because Inever talked to them. This one couldn
' t be solved. Perhaps ifI had opened my mouth, this would
have been another course. I wouldhave felt accompanied, because obviously I also

(46:36):
felt dirty guilty right now just becauseI felt that I had to hide things
and not be able to explain itis the most terrible thing, because it
becomes a snowball lie. I think, well, at least the stories I
know. I do have several stories, no, no, not my personal
ones, but I have heard that, contrary to your situation, pornography has
saved relationships, changes routines, generatesfantasies opens aspects, generates possibilities. All

(47:04):
too much is bad, as Isaid, no, but, for example,
from the truth if you see iton a certain side, because if
it generates expectation pornography, but ifyou see it from another side, it
also inspires that oh look I willtry that position. Or ah of course,
you understand yourself, yes or hearif I talk to her like that,
maybe if I feel or I sawthat she slapped her and liked the

(47:25):
old one, I' m goingto ask mine if she likes that I
slap her, you know, itgenerates a motivational, you know, came
a point and you can already abuseher. But then I think this I
' m everyone who obviously understands theline, but that' s why I
' m going. That is myexperience with pornography. I get güey messages.
I put these videos on her likeyou said on your only fans and

(47:46):
we started trying out different positions andshe' s a bastard. You know,
or I' m gonna say alittle bit more radical, but it
' s a reality. We're with me, too. People have
a lot. The people who followme and who know me have a lot
of approach, because they know thatI talk about this very transparent and so
I saw they are called very personalmessages. For example, I' m
20 years old. I' ma virgin, but the idea of seeing

(48:08):
your content motivates me to approach otherpeople, because I think you' re
having such a good time that Iwant to live. That' s what
you do. You know or atthe level of inspiration, not that you
can have s you' ve beena kid that you' ve been bullied
through your life. There comes apoint that makes you ready for everyone already
took for the first time his seventeeneighteen, already everyone saw porn clearly,
but there are always others that youdon' t know. And pornography,

(48:32):
at least in its different modalities,because if there are many it becomes like
a teacher you know, it becomeslike someone who can tell you something that
can tell you to say or someonewho can show you the way, because
the reality is that our sex educationis terrible, that is, sex education
is pornography. But I understand,but also the expectations that that fart creates

(48:55):
you, that is, if they' re too much of a bastard.
But come back the same maybe someonewho gave good chas dear and that in
many that has already been a consumer, because we will call it high end.
So to speak or very constant,because clearly there is already a point
where I repeat, you abuse,but for someone who is not in that
station, but, on the contrary, they are in the totally opposite range,

(49:19):
because if he becomes a motivator,if he becomes something that tells me
how to approach, how to toucha vagina where to put it you know
what. For example, I learnedto be a sexal to women thanks to
porn, that is, and thatcould be oral sex in no sex education
class and teach them a homosexual howto suck dick. Okay, well,
it' s different, I mean. For example, I, if I

(49:40):
didn' t have that sort ofthing, I didn' t like the
dorks and the two times I didit was because, because I learned to
see how they did it there andthey liked it and maybe we didn'
t see it so drastic to porn. But there are many films that have
erotic scenes like I don' tremember men, but if we have seen,
many are incl but you do seeyou live like this experience or experience

(50:02):
and that I don' t know. The woman or the man says no,
but do me that way or getin here or if you make him
on this side. That' sright, that' s indirect education.
You know, and we' retalking about porn and sex, just like
my mom didn' t teach me, my teacher didn' t teach me,
she didn' t teach me toanyone, and I had to go
into consumption. You know maybe itwasn' t my goal to learn,
but you did learn. You know, that' s the other one,

(50:23):
I mean one day it took youto learn things, that' s where
we learn to have a sex life, that' s to this day or
I' ve never talked to myfather or some authority figure about how it
' s the right way to havesex. All I had to see is
I think that' s how Istart the search, the pornography I need
to see how they do it,because if it happens to me, I
don' t want to get caughtin white. I need you how you

(50:45):
get what you can do this one. So obviously you start as if you
wanted to see to know what todo when that situation arises. Egg on
less sexual diversity issues. Well,us. I am a supporter, and
I have told you a thousand timesthat one thing that mainly differentiates the Community
is our sexuality, that is sexfrom what makes us different, whether it

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' s the one I have orthe one I like you know a world.
So in our community, because there' s a lot of flag we
' re going to call the accryesthat there' s a lot of pride
in sexual issues and many early onesabout issues that develop beyond sexuality, specifically
talking about fetishes, king' s, morbid, fantasy, etcetera. No

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and his first approach always to anyfetish, it' s always porn,
because you' re not going tosay that there' s discovered that I
liked leather watching my dad wearing aharness. How many to see your dad
is in armet, that is,it makes sense, oh my dog'
s harness. You know, itturned me on. Yeah, I think
it is You' re going tobe like generating, and the first one

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you came up with is always porn, because where you' re going to
see it. First you didn't see him on the street, you
didn' t see a lady snoopingat his nipples because I needed him to
be so scared that he explained itto me, that is, you had
to watch him in a porn videoor I didn' t see him in
school, like the physical education class, they' d take them out and
I found out that he likes someoneyou know, that' s your first
approach. It' s never goingto be anything external beyond pornography. It

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' s always going to be whenyou find out that it can be a
lot beyond just penetration. I explainto myself then it becomes very interesting,
very attractive, the possibilities that theporn opens you, I explain myself,
but you return to the same thing. Any abuse is bad or obvious.
So I think the exercise here isheard as that line, but you can
also run over certain other complexes inwhich you can also demotivate. No.

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For example, I don' tremember you then aha exactly because I don
' t have that size or body. Or I' d like to be
more like that, more like that, why not, because no, and
it starts I think I' malso going to generate that anxiety that you
say wow, why. Because it' s happening well, but then we
' re already talking about personal insecuritiesand so on that, although it could

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develop into a porn bar, itcan also develop from novels, all the
soap opera galans. For example,always in the pretty joint goes with the
handsome bato. He never left withwey who was aesthetically non- hegemonic,
European, etcetera. You know he' s always a güey, very handsome.
I explain myself with a good bodyand so on. And this was
no longer about pornography. We're talking about it being a novel,
it' s a movie. Youknow, or I don' t know,

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it' s a lot of things. Not the TV commercials, the
sales commercials. Always the successful manwith the car the handsome successful man is
the one who bought the expensive carexplained to me and always suddenly it is
the familiar car to the family,the handsome man explained to me. I
mean, we' re talking abouta lot of things, not just pornography.
And it makes me responsible for attributingthe insecurities that can develop only to

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porn, because if not only porn, no, but not only the pono
you know the net, it isthat net güey if thanks for sharing it.
No, it' s a kindof thing that I didn' t
think I' d ever met someonewith an experience like that and as it
starts to talk about the net.Yes, you can get to the people

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who are seeing us to visualize andsay güey, question themselves above all say
güey. I' m stopping doingthings. So it' s being to
the detriment of what I am ofthe person, I mean, it'
s costing me. Then it's okay. I' m glad you
share and become honest, because thankyou so much here. Yeah, no
thanks,' cause mostly nobody talksabout it. I mean, today it
happened to me and it was becausethis space had to be given. But

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if I hadn' t ever talkedabout it, I mean, six months
ago I had been invited to theshow, I would never have talked about
it because I didn' t thinkI was there. You were conscious,
yes, I wasn' t evenconscious. So, thank you, that
' s why, güey the net. You thank you for space and for
listening to me, because anyway,I think that to conclude this topic of
pornography, I feel that it isnot bad the same, as Adrian says,

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always obviously, to have a balancein all that. And it'
s a good thing you got it, my dear friend, that when you
were going to imagine it, whenI greeted anyone I imagined, I would
never imagine it. But what,Father, to know you a little more.
Thank you as a person, becauseas sometimes we all know each other
as on the outside, but neveron a personal level. And the net.
Welcome. Thank you for the netthis and emporazo and that we will

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throw like this. And what,Father, that you encouraged yourself to tell
this story that seems yes, thetruth is that I last night, when
you saw that I was going tocome here I said, it will be
that I talk about that topic,it will be that I am willing to
expose my personal life, because itis to open a lot of me from
my battles. But I said Ithink it' s good that maybe someone

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' s also going through the samething and that I say OK I don
' t feel weak to say itand make decisions based on it. It
' s a no is strength,because I feel strong, I feel stronger
than when I was already trapped.And in the end, I mean,
that' s no tempered scream.I mean, we' ve talked so
many times about our farts, anxieties, depressions. The first tea we had,

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that is, in general, allthe farts that have made us the
person we are. And just likeyou say, someone is going to someone,
they' re going to resonate andthey' re going to help you,
like all this information you have andthat' s what it' s
all about, not good band putus there in the comments or anything,

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some specific topic that you think mightbe interesting for us to talk about or
just like that so we won't burn it. Put in if you
want me to go anonymous, please, and talk about some specific problem that
you' re living with pleasure.I think we can address it. Let
us always be happy to talk aboutour lives if our experiences, of course,
are our opinion as people who,therefore, experience nothing but literal our
lives and learn from them, mayalso have some problem that we do or

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do say something that we do notunderstand 100%. But you already know
that we learn together, so weget comments, opinions, doubts, what
to make, mother- minded claimsand little gifts like that to egg.
So, band, listen to usnext episode and go there. You see
each other.