Indianapolis Colts Are For Real

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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Saving everybody. Yes, we have a packed house here on
the part of Jane. My name is Scott Morgan, the
Motor City man Mouth. Then we're glad to have you
with us tonight and when I meet we have a
packed house. We have a packed house. I want to
introduce the young lady to my right, the Queen a
hoop a queen anywhere you want to be anyways, their
name is Megan Price. Glad to have you on.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Megan, Thank you, super excited to join the show. It's
been a while. I think I came on right at
the start of baseball season and I worked Double A Ball,
So if y'all know double A ball schedule, it's rough.
Y'all haven't seen me for well.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
I got a new and I know plenty about Final
League baseball. I kind of grew up with it to
begin one. So with that time we had Jacob Chrisner.
Glad they have you back.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Appreciate you. She might be the queen. All of you
guys are the king and the queen, and I'm the
court jester.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
All right, whatever you say, Jacob, I'll take your words
for it. Andy.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
Great to be here, love talking sports with all of
you fine people.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
You know, well person, the most inspiring guy in this
room because of what he had to have been through
until everybody, you know, we had to go through really quickly.
They'll go to Shandy was meeting it for the first time,
and Marvin got to see it last week. We'll won't
be on next week because obviously another commandment, but he
got him on the night. Go ahead.

Speaker 5 (01:42):
Yeah, just after racing nine years for a TAMS sales
a Bob's letter. If you see that picture right behind me,
I had to post that thing everywhere so I can
remember what was wrong with me. I was in dementia,
I was gone, and I made it back. Go to Jr.
Name and saved my butt and he saved my life.
So I was people I used to couldn't say his
name without me bus out crying. So I found out

(02:04):
it's still real. So just don't say his name. Please,
just don't say it. Don't say it. I'm all cried
out today.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, and we got the Shannon Man, Tom Shannahan. Glad
to have you, I mean glad to be here.

Speaker 6 (02:17):
Thinks I want to hear more about Joe.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Don't worry, Oh, don't worry. I got news for Europe.
We're going to talk about Joe Nama. Well, you know what,
go ahead and get no real quickly, and then rolled
over to Marvin give him a real quick pay that
you said, Joe name, it saved your life, right, go ahead?

Speaker 5 (02:37):
Yeah, well that was a lot of my teammates began
committing suicide right now, and they would they wouldn't. The
Liberty wasn't disclosing it to us. So we finding out
one by one. Uh later on it was an article
came out from the New York Times called slid Head,
and it actually diagnosed me. I've been seeing not just
for years. I gave up. I was on the floor,
I was in demension. I was getting lost in the community.

(02:59):
Uh man, I I didn't know what day was what
I didn't even know what month we're in. And so
Joe Naman said he used this machine behind me. I
got one right here. It's hyperbreak Chamber. I want to
try it. One day ago. Hour later, Man, my life
came back to me. It took me one hour, you know.
And so every since then, right, I've been using this machine,

(03:21):
and uh so I've helped a lot more people. People
call me now, they're crying and calling me a hero.
But like I always referring back to Joe Nama because
he's the father of this movement. Whether he knows it
or not, he you know, he say he's saving a
lot of people.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Now, Hey, Jeremy cham great stuff. Obviously we talked about
it Tommy on our first show. We're gonna talk about
Joe Nama was actually next week and in time to
pick him. But for a different reason. Marvin's back on
again and we got it loaded show tonight. All right, Marvin,
welcome back in the house. Brother, Thank you for having
me being here with you guys looking forward to this.

(03:55):
All right, well let's get going here. We have a
lot to get to and we got to go to
New York where trustin Fields is. I think twenty seven
as a starter. Now, boy thinks are getting a little rope,
But when an opponent score twenty one points on this guy,
these are rope on you're on in twenty six against them.
Keep in mind the Jets have not been the same
since Robert Salah left. Robert Salo was two and three

(04:17):
after that there are three and fourteen. You want to
talk about a first class dumps or fire Meghan, it
is rope in New York with the Jets.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
It is.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
I'm not going to sit here and blame Justin Fields,
though I know he got benched and and you know,
there have been some questionable performances, but he doesn't have
a coach or any type of backing within the upper
management of the team. I'm pretty sure the owner still
rates his drafts his players off of Madden ratings. So

(04:49):
I'm you know, when you have that going on in
your front office and your ownership group, I'm not going
to put it on the players. You know, Justin is
somebody that didn't have a great situation there in Chicago
and they're actually turning a corner without him, and then
went down to Pittsburgh and it was okay, but they
didn't buy into him. And that's all right as well.

(05:10):
But I don't think anybody has gone to the Jets
and been like, oh, yeah, man, I'm about to turn
it around.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, we clarify Woody Johnson as a very good owner,
and Aaron Glenn obviously has a lot of work to do.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
But Jacob, I I'll tell you this as a man,
I like Justin Field is a good dude. Just bringing
that bringing that to the hilt because I'm not going
to put it all on him for the heats try.
But his name scalds me considering they It doesn't just

(05:43):
because and I'm saying this, Marvin, it scalds me. Not
because of him necessarily, but the amount of Bears fans
that lied about the last guy before him, to say,
even though Alan Robinson had two hundred catches in two
years with the h two hundred in two years, Justin
was gonna be the real quarterback. They have a real quarterback.

(06:06):
Now they're gonna win game, They're gonna do all this stuff.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
And it went tank.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
And the Bears fans gave up five years, just like
they give up five years every time they don't prefer
somebody they don't. They didn't prefer Trubisky, so they tanked
up five years before they get somebody else there. And
then if they start winning again, are they gonna give
up on that guy? So Justin here's the thing. When
Justin got in on Game three against Cleveland, they had

(06:35):
nine sacks. Oh, we come to find out he didn't
have a first he didn't have a first team thing
rep all training camp, they didn't work with him at all.
Then you they he dealt with those couple of years.
He goes to Pittsburgh. Loved Tomlin. Everybody knows I love Tomlin.
But he's not a quarterback guy. He he had he

(06:55):
had a Roethlisberger and that's basically what you had. It's
like did Kavin McMahon. He's not a quarterback guys you're
going to develop on that and now you've got this.
It's a little link for Justin be developing now and
it's the unfortunate part. And Eric Glinz another he's a
third straight defensive guy. So and everything just keeps getting
worse over there. I feel for Justin, but the whole

(07:16):
situation just kind of makes me blanche, if you will, Adi.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
So I'm gonna I'm gonna take the viewpoint of are
we gonna see more of this? Because remember he didn't
play for one school and one coach. He played in
Georgia and then he went to Ohio State too, so
it's not like he's had longevity in one place with
one coach to really develop him. And then to switch
into the NFL and to not have longevity with coaches

(07:42):
there to really develop in him, I think is the
main reason he's not having success, and to be honest
with you, to not have success in the as a jet.
Even Aaron Rodgers didn't have that much success as a jet.
And look, he's a Hall of fame. He will be
a Hall of Fame corps her back. So you can't

(08:02):
put it all on Justin Fields at this point.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
Well, you know, Knty just took the words out of
my mouth. Like Ray Roger, I remember meeting him at
the st Awards one year, it's like two thousand and
eight when he was sitting there waiting because Brett Fod
wasn't sure what he was gonna do. And they were
both sitting there looking at each other at the STIs
and it was tension and Era Justin was uh, Justin
Tiberlick was the was the MC and he was he

(08:27):
was messing, you know, they'd be messing with the people,
and they definitely got him. So they didn't do anything
with that with him. So I just I don't see
him doing anything. I think it's they're gonna keep going
down this path they're own. I don't I can't see
how they're gonna turn this around this year. They might
as well just wash their hands and just take them
lost and see if they can get some good draft

(08:48):
picks next year.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Hommy, I'm gonna blame Urban Meyer.

Speaker 6 (08:54):
Urban Myers.

Speaker 7 (08:54):
Ohio State quarterbacks are productive, but none of them turned
out to be good in the NFL.

Speaker 6 (09:01):
In twenty seventeen, JT.

Speaker 7 (09:04):
Barrett and Dwayne Haskins were the top two quarterbacks. Third
team was Joe Burrow. Burrow transferred LSU. We all know
what he did at LSU, what he did with the Bengals.
So and then Urban Meyer screwed up Trevor Lawrence some

(09:24):
more so justin Fields just never got to coaching in college.
That other guy's got.

Speaker 8 (09:33):
Okay, Yeah, well, in regards to him not getting the
coaching in college, he chose to leave Georgia. You know
that was his decision. It was a business decision. I
get it. He chose to go to Ohio State, where
You're right, they don't. They don't have a great history
of turning our great NFL quarterbacks. The biggest issue is this,
if we had a different quarterback, a better quarterback, we

(09:55):
beat a different position. And that's what I believe. Last year,
a Jet fans, you know, we hated Aaron Rodgers, the drama,
all his games you know, stuff he's saying, you know,
on the shows and just everything that went with him.
But we also forget he was recovering from any hues injury.
Right now, he's not playing like vintage Aaron Rodgers. But
guess what his team as a contender right now, you know,

(10:18):
And he ain't the problem. And you know he threw
a few picks last week, but he's out there and
making play Still justin Fields holds the ball too long.
He's afraid to throw the ball. He had that same
problem before he even got to New York. You had
you had people predicting the Jets to go to the
playoffs this year. Okay, based on a run game, based
on an all Pro receiver, based on a good young

(10:40):
O line, and a Pro Bowl player at every level
on defense. If we had a different quarterback, the Jets
right now would be three and four or four and three.
I hate the kid got forty million dollars. He got
two years. You know, it's it's good for good for him,
but he ain't the guy and he has to go.
And I hate to say it because I wanted to
see what he could do if he had a team

(11:01):
around him. And I believe that he is the biggest
problem of a few problems.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
All Right. We talked about this last night, and I
wanted this different, this group to talk about it as well.
You talk about frequent flyer miles. The Stanford Cardinals had some.
They'll end up traveling over sixteen twenty three thousand, five
hundred and sixty two miles. Okay, and that's part of
those games include at North Carolina, Miami, and Virginia. We

(11:28):
know about them being a part of the Atlantic Coast Conference.
But get this, there's a great fact that I dug up.
They urged the conference is twenty four thousand, nine hundred
and one miles is a distance, and that that's what
you want. And that's when you talk about going around

(11:49):
the equator. I never thought i'd see the day I
bring the Earth in the equator on one particular show.
But twenty four nine and one yarders is inference all
the way around the equator. Megan, we are talked about
those miles, twenty three mive safety two really really down
twenty more one unbelievable stop.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Insanity. I don't really know what you can even add
to that that it's just insane.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Else really, but go ahead.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
You know, as as the conference realignments happened and we
started to wonder what was going to happen with these
travel times and how that was going to affect all levels.
I think we see this transitioning in different areas as well,
and you know, we will see some changes go back
to I think some of our old way of systems.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Jacob, Now, a lot of these a lot of these
miles everything. That's what I was thinking about when God,
when we first saw this, how much they're going to
be going. But one of the biggest things, one of
the biggest things, they're going through the acc and doing
that driver. They're gonna hope that Bill Belichick' to coach
the other two teams also, so the but really by itself,

(13:10):
you're gonna have a you're gonna have a quote unquote
Pac ten's Pac twelve school doing this once a year.
It's like we'd say, Stanford doing it now. I could
just be anybody the next year. Anybody the next year
U c l a USC. It's because all those home
games are getting now are going on the road, so
we're gonna be switching that around, you know, So in
Stanford next year, those will be home games.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
That's a good point. Go ahead and canny.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
You know, as we've talked about, we've changed conference realignment
and it's no longer regional.

Speaker 9 (13:43):
It's going we.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
Talked about the Big Ten, it's not even the Big
Ten anymore. But they go from coast to coast and
you're gonna have these kind of matchups. But we're also
paying these players too at this point, so it's not
like you know, I mean, come on, let's face it.

Speaker 9 (13:59):
You know, if someone's going to pay.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
Me to go fly out to the other coast and play,
I'll do it like it's part of their job and
that we have to. That's part of what they need
to think about is that, you know, and I think
the schools have to be smart enough when they're building
in their budgets to allow time that they're not like
just flying in and boom going to the game, like,

(14:22):
so that they have adjustment time to like the time
zone and stuff like that.

Speaker 9 (14:26):
Like some of.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
These colleges are now playing games overseas too, to you know,
to kind of spark just like the NFL has done
to spark interest. So you're going to see more and
more of this.

Speaker 5 (14:38):
I think, well, well, the only I already have. That
is these guys aren't flying, Coach, you know, they're flying. Man,
This is a whole different thing like when we were
back when I was in school. You know, we weren't
flying like that. We you know, we'd be lucky to
get on the plane. We might have to take a
long road trip. So and then other thing that comes

(14:59):
with that I remember is like when you fly that much,
the illnesses start to hit those teams. And so one
person on that plane and see everybody gets sick. That's
where I think it's gonna come into play later, like
that blues in those bugs when they come they circulate
that air. Now they all have it. Now, how that
has that team gonna play this week? So that's that's
what we're going to see, I believe.

Speaker 6 (15:21):
May Yeah, that's an interesting point.

Speaker 8 (15:25):
You know.

Speaker 7 (15:25):
I remember when the NFL they used to talk about
this about the Seahawks, about how they had to fly
more miles than other teams when the West was playing
the East Division school teams. And but you know, they're
they're pros. They all had a girlfriend in those different towns,
so they were probably looking.

Speaker 6 (15:44):
Forward to the game.

Speaker 7 (15:47):
I don't think college kids really care I mean, if
you're a college kid, how many flights have you been
on in your life?

Speaker 6 (15:55):
So I don't think it's that big of a deal.

Speaker 7 (15:59):
What it is it is this is the adults have
screwed up college sports so that we have realignment right and.

Speaker 6 (16:05):
The conferences have been shuffled in such a crazy way.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
I just think we forget about the student part when
we talk about student athletes. So you know, like I
get that they're semi pro athletes, and I definitely think
they should be played, be paid. I've never been a
proponent against that, But what about the student part of that.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
I would be curious to find out what percentage I
should go to class? Now, in this day.

Speaker 8 (16:32):
And age, the overwhelming majority of.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Going to class.

Speaker 8 (16:36):
They absolutely are going to class.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
They are just because there are a lot of There
are quite a few Nils and everything like that, and
you're ready for it. I'm just I'm glad you told
me that, because I was always wondering that, what would.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
I mean, the superstars aren't going to class? Angel Recon
didn't go to class.

Speaker 8 (16:56):
So I got to Reggie Bush. But again that's because
he was Reggie Bush getting her rast on campus.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
I'm not saying all of them aren't going to class,
but the superstars aren't going to class because of the
level of money that they're making. Okay, so uh and
travel travel time, they're going to be doing a lot of.

Speaker 8 (17:12):
Zoom, right, So I guess I guess I took that
as there the players are choosing to not go to
class and just stay home and know.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
They're doing zooms.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
They're doing they're doing.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Online classes class. They travel too much. They travel too
much to actually be in class.

Speaker 8 (17:29):
I learned on I learned on this zoom from y'all
all the time.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
It's not.

Speaker 10 (17:37):
Wait, well you know how how I learned it out
doing zoom. The Mighty Marlin taught me how to do it.
Because I didn't know how to do it. I had
to go with their PR guys doing to walk me
through it every.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Time they get out of their media available. That's what
my ID said, was to go not manningly to get
the done. I had to learn zoom and their PR
guys walk me through it because I was in the
eyes of all latins el stoopid though until I ll
figured it out though, all right, well, anyway, that's all

(18:07):
I know. Man, ton't even think I'm biling. Well, I'm
anything bought, all right, Marvin, you can finish off the topic.
A lot more to get to. We know the queen
of hoops debserver a little bit of hoops tonight. I
got some horror.

Speaker 8 (18:17):
So go ahead and Marvin, Well, I'll tell you like this.
When I was at USC, we flew to Penn State,
we flew to Florida State. We flew a Nerd Dame twice. Personally,
I used to love the away games. I used to
love the road trips. It was never exhausting to me.
It was exciting going to these college stadiums. I was
a football nut as a kid, so I had admiration
for so many schools and it was exciting to me,

(18:40):
you know, I mean just being in that process. I
never felt like it was it was an issue at all.
On top of that, if you were paying me n
I l money like Kenny's talking about, I really wouldn't
have a problem. And on top of that, like Will
was saying, these planes are these guys are running in
the huge planes. No players are sitting next to each other.
These guys are stretched out, laid out, laid back. They're

(19:01):
eating the best food you can bring on that plane.
I mean, this is it's a first class experience if
you're a power for a team. That's how it was
for us to see back in the nineties. And you
know we wasn't. This is the way before nil, right,
So you know this is what they this is what
Stanford signed up for. This is the they signed up
for this. You know, capitalism. Nothing survives capitalism. It's all
about that money, you know, and college football is no different.

Speaker 5 (19:23):
You know.

Speaker 8 (19:24):
Now everyone's getting paid. That's the difference or getting paid
in the open, I should say. So you know, it's
it's a new day. The players have no right to
complain because they're taking that money and at the end
of the day they're having a great time. I'm feel
sorry for them. These guys. Are these guys living the
life trust confession. You want to listen, man, it is
what it.

Speaker 11 (19:43):
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Speaker 1 (19:50):
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(20:13):
nine oh one miles. I'm both then circumference or was
it the distance around to the equator is one of
the five digits, and the other one is what the
cardinals is going to fly? And I don't mean the
cardinals that fly the cardinal I guess that's the one
of the real religious listing, right. I think that's what
they do out there. I was actually out at Paul also.
It was a pretty cool place. By the way. All right,

(20:34):
let's continue on here. The title of the show is
are the Indianapolis Colts for real? Well, let's talk about it.
The Cults are six and one and the defeated the
LA Chargers over the weekend. Get this, okay, But Jonathan
Taylor and three tonchdowns, sixteen rushs for ninety four yards,
three receptions for thirty eight yards, and if Daniel Indiana

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Jones by the way to under eighty eight yards two
touchdowns on receptions? Are they for real? Megan?

Speaker 4 (21:04):
Sorry?

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Was I meeting myself? I absolutely think they are for real.
I you know, I think the one consistent thing that
they've had over these last six seven years, while they've
had the coaching carousel and the QB carousel, has been
their defense. They've always had a real decent defense. It's
kind of like the Jets with their bread and butter
for some years. That kept them a little competitive was
their defense, and I think that's what's missing for them

(21:26):
this year. But for the Colts, it's never gone anywhere
despite all these changes. So I like to see the
offense coming around on this as well. Yeah, I think
they're for real.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
I read the twenty four the final in that game, Jacob.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Hard to say, but I brought this up. The last
year's one thing I do like with Like I said,
what they thought of what Daniel Jones was the fact
that he's in the corn Belt. He's in the corn
State and there's a little a little less stress and
then they're given and they're really Nathan Taylor and all
that kind of stuff. He just has to do just enough.
And he's a veteran, and he's a veteran so he

(22:06):
can still be able to help on something like that.
So I'm so, yeah, they could be, but time will
tell mind you if Jonathan Taylor, I mean if he
not Taylor, but if he allows it. I'm saying, if
he stays healthy for seventeen games, we won't know anything.
If he gets hurt, we'll know for sure. Daniel Jones

(22:28):
can do it with a backup, then we're gonna know
if he's for real or if that's the ORF H
was just getting help. But either way though, it's a team,
and I like the team and how they're running.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Yeah, they're doing a really good job, Katie.

Speaker 9 (22:44):
I think they are for real.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
And let's let's look at the conference that they're in
right now. It's the Indian then it's the Jacksonville Jaguars.
They're four and three, Houston Texans two and four, and
Tennessee Titans are one and six. So I mean, if
you look at the other teams, the other teams aren't gelling,
aren't doing it, but Indy is doing it. They're getting
it done. I love the fact that they do have

(23:06):
a mixture. It's you know, we all know that I'm
a Wisconsin girl. So Jonathan Taylor, like you know, I
knew he was going to do well, and I think
they just needed the right fit. So I think, you know,
bringing in the quarterback, having the right running back, being
a balanced attack, also having the defense.

Speaker 9 (23:26):
Yeah, I think they are for real.

Speaker 5 (23:28):
Well, well, I think that it's two things that can
help you win. Like one thing about NFL. We know,
any given Sunday as we always stay you know, anybody
can win. But when you get on the team and
you're actually winning, it starts to get hard to lose,
Like when you have that swag that comes out of nowhere.
And once that swag is there, like you've beating teams

(23:48):
you're not supposed to be and we see it happen
all the time. And now I'm looking at I know
the division an is is kind of beat up right now,
so they should at least get into the playoffs. But
now I'm looking at some of these teams, like like
Baltimore who's lost a lot of games. I know they
you know, we got quarterbacks out, and then when they
start coming back and start getting that momentum, you know,

(24:09):
we're gonna see what happens then.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
But I think they're for real, Tommy.

Speaker 7 (24:14):
Yeah, the NFL is such a long season, and most
teams have two or three seasons with peaks and valleys.

Speaker 6 (24:20):
So they might tail off a little bit.

Speaker 7 (24:23):
But let's look at their head coach, Saint Stike, and
he's his reputation was quarterbacks. The coach's reputation is defense.
He's in his third season. It's all coming together for
whatever the reasons are. It's all coming together this season
six and one. The third of the way through. They
might drop off for a spell there, but they seem

(24:46):
to have the foundation to finish strong at least be
a playoff team, if not a one or two or
three loss team.

Speaker 8 (24:56):
Marvin, Yeah, a little bit to what Jake was saying.
I think they're real because that running game is real
and Jonathan Taylor is real and it's consistent and it's
coming and you know it's coming and no one's stopping it.
And he I mean in this this rookie tight end, uh,
Tyler Warren who tore up USC last year when he
was at Penn State. He's looking at having a Pro

(25:18):
Bowl season. Michael Pittman junior wide receiver. Uh hes been
other trojan as well.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (25:24):
Great receiver for them. And Danny Dimes. Danny Jones is
the real deal. You know, what it comes down to
is fit. You know, Look look at Sam Donald in Minnesota,
Look at when he was in Minnesota, Look at Baker
in Tampa. It comes down to fit and just being
in the right situation. Uh Again, I'm one of these guys.
I think a lot of these quarterbacks get a bad
rap uh when they go to these teams because and

(25:46):
these teams aren't really ready for them. You know, people
forget So Caleb Williams's dad, you know, was was complaining
about him going to Chicago because he didn't want to
have to deal with three head coaches and three office
coordinators in two years. And that's where he's dealt with.
So with Daniel Jones, you know, I don't know if
he was putting a great situation, to be honest with you.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (26:04):
They they took away Saquon, but should they should have
paid Taquon. But you know that that's that didn't work
out to be great for him. But he's bawling. Coats
are real. Run game is real. They have a lot
of football left. We haven't seen them deal with adversity.
There are ten we have ten more weeks of regular
season football. That's a lot of football, tom point. It's
almost it's another season in itself. It seems like, right,

(26:27):
so let's see if let's see if they can hold on,
Let's see if they can deal with adversity. Uh, let's
see what happens in those situations. But for right now,
seven weeks in, man, they are looking like they are
the real deal.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Ladies for sure. Like I've been really impressed what they
how serious they're taking their transition and taking over the team,
and I've just been so impressed with them.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
Well they took I'll tell you this, they took a
lot of beating because they were on the they were
on the good sense the bike last year. They're on
the mic last year trying to see the coaches knew
what they were talking about, and there are a bunch
of guys going, what do they know? Blah blah blah
blah blah, And it's like, well, they've been on the sidelines.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
As are like three their whole lives.

Speaker 7 (27:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
I love that response from her too, she said I
grew up in football, Like what are you talking about?

Speaker 5 (27:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (27:15):
No, but that's what the thing is. They say something
like that, But I'm like, does the idea? What did
you expect them to be doing? Playing dolls in the
in the office with their dad while he's running the team.
They'd be watching baby watch everything, and it was all
the daughters and you know darn and the kind of personality,
kind of personality Jim Ersay was, you know Don Goodwell,
he's going to get him involved, no question.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
All right, let's push the narrative to hoops a little
bit while I've got Megan here. I want to get
a few things. And I know that the WNBA obviously
was working on a collective bargaining the raiment. But let's
talk about their growth of the game dating back to
last preseason. Get this, According to the front off of
Sports Indiana Fever preseason game again for Phil drew three
million viewers on ESPN. More thing didn't the NBA preseason

(28:01):
game except when Caitlin Clark and Lebron James Megan. This
is unbelievable stuff that there were three million people back then.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Absolutely so. It was a record breaking season for the WNBA,
whether it was playoffs, preseason, regular season like it was,
it was an amazing season. Unfortunately, we didn't get to
see Caitlyn healthy for a majority of the season, saw
some other ladies that were out a good portion of
the season. Angel Reese was out at the end of
the season, so we didn't get to see a lot

(28:31):
of the matchups that we wanted to see. And then,
of course, you know, they were partaking in the coaching
carousel as well. We saw Sandy Brondelo found a landing
spot today with the Toronto Tempo, and there have been
a couple of other hires. There was a move there
in Portland as well. So I'm just really interested to
see what they're going to do with these expansion drafts.

(28:53):
We've seen them with one team already and how they're
doing that. How are they going to do that introducing
two into the expansion drafts. So while all of that
is just kind of conjecture, to be perfectly honest, because
we've got a deadline coming up on the thirtieth for
the CBA. So even if we can figure out expansion
drafts and all that, are we having a season? We

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don't know and I don't think so to be perfectly honest,
it doesn't seem like either side is giving very much,
and so I think we're on the verge of a lockout.
Will that will they be able to come to an
agreement before the season starts. Possibly or we'll see a
shortened season, but it's it's very interesting. We will see
an Unrivaled season during the middle of this during free

(29:36):
agency as well, so we'll see. But the excitement is there,
and so I think regardless of a lockout or not
or not, people are going to be talking. And we
saw with the controversy even you know, even when it
brought out the ugly and people, they were talking about it.
And as Jerry says, all press.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Is good press beca You watch, Megan, you watch just
for the second the minute that there is a lockout,
and there will be. You're correct, you will And is
there a season? I'm with you. I don't believe so either,
But you watch. Unrivaled is going to start getting in
the news for contracts they give to those girls control

(30:16):
the WNBA bad absolutely well.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
They did it in year one already they have comparable,
if not better contracts for an eight week lead.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Oh better better for the eight week is not even
the perks are better they get I mean, the perks
are way better. Everything is better. I mean, I'll add.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
One last thing to that, because of course, the commissioner
controversy that's going on right now, and while I don't
want to discredit her because the amount of improvements that
have happened while she's been commissioner or exponential, and so
I definitely don't want to discredit her for that. But
how do can you replace one person at the commissioner
position if you've lost control completely? Or can you rep

(31:00):
place one hundred and seventy five ladies was built in
fan bases. You can't come in and replace an entire
league right now, but you can replace one person at
the head of it and satisfy those other ladies who
have built in fan bases. That FYI, while she's sitting
there saying, you know, they should be so glad they
have a platform, Yes they should. But Caitlyn Clark, for example,

(31:20):
built her platform in Iowa. Kate wait before she set
a foot in WNBA.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
So, Nah, Caitlin Clark's had a platform since she was
seven years old, walking running underneath.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
She was in Iowa though, like she was in Iowa,
she never left Iowa, like she built that platform. She
put in all that hard work there in Iowa. She
built that, oh WNA.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
But I'm just you're correct on that. But I'm just
saying she's had a platform she was seven years old
running under some kids with legs to go through.

Speaker 5 (31:47):
It's like, but is it sustainable, that's my question?

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Well, no, no, I mean, but the way she said
that about Caitlyn Clark, it's like she's bigger that she's
I mean from the get go, she's bigger than the WNBA.
So Unrivaled already tried to get hurt last year in
the first place, So we are we'll.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Never We'll never see Caitlin or Asia play Unrivaled. No never,
they don't have to. Asia just at least probably the
most successful women's show of all time this year, and
the colourways just keep dropping, so like, we don't they
don't need the money to play outside of regular season
w NBA.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
They don't need it.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
We'll never see them do it.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
But you can see Asia and and Caitlin to get
with an investors and get their own league. I bet
you could do that before they think that.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
I mean, they don't need to. Stewie and Fie already
have their own league. I don't think that, you know,
I don't think that they'll do that. I'm sure the
w NBA will figure out something. Well, they have to
change leadership.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
That's the question.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
So with that said, Jacob, okay, I'm going to go
around the horn with this, okay, and that's obviously, what
are your thoughts about what they did in Brazil. I
want to make sure everybody can comme out on us
and I have another important Caitlin Clark. I want to
just keep it moving along so we can get as
much all we have, Megan and Tommy on would still
had some football, Tommy, if you get hang with us

(33:03):
a few minutes longer, I want to get to what
we want to get to as well. Are you okay
with that a little bit? Tommy? Please? So all right,
so let what you're talking to Jacob, stick to Brazil, okay,
and only Brazil. Otherwise I'll send you over to Argentina
and join my Argentine gringo over there, because I got
that don't take a boat. Yeah, I've got the good

(33:28):
one lined up for you, Jacob. Stick to Brazil here.
When you're talking about what Caitlin and the dang did
down there, that was unbelievable stuff, wasn't it.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Jacob, Yes, yes it was. And I was just trying
to bring the basic I was trying to do in
basic in comparison to what we see with the WID's
all I was going there.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
I'm just kidding with you. I'd like to chad to
big and you haven't seen Megan in a while. She's
loving it. I got news for this. The reason why
this lady's a queen of who. She knows it.

Speaker 11 (33:53):
Better than anybody. I've never seen anybody. She's encyclopedia. We'll
call it a queena encyclopedia. We can add another digit
to it after all ready mild another word.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
Yeah, what I do on The Girls Show is I
let Meghan talk about basketball because that is her stuff.
Like I'm not as well versed on it. I'm I
mean glad for the WNBA and going to Brazil and
getting the viewership that they have, you know. But I
will say to Meghan's point, I think the problem is

(34:28):
definitely the commissioner, and I think they're gonna have to
do something because I think so many people have come
out and talked about it at this point that I
think it's inevitable.

Speaker 5 (34:40):
Well, I don't think, well, I'm sure it's the commissioner,
but I believe that commissioner is uh, you know, that's
a puppet. You know, he's being controlled by the owners
people with the money.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (34:52):
And my question is I wonder if it's sustainable. Because
the WNBA grew in one year. I nearly turned off
NFL games to watch WNB games. That was like, what,
how did that happen? But I tell you what, Like
Asia did. She was doing an interview. It was the
most funniest thing I've seen on TV and forever. She
looked like she was in Star Wars. She had on

(35:13):
this thing on her head. It was like a rap
there some ears and some things. And why she's given
us interview? Her mom texts her and she looked down
and she did like this and she just busts out laughing.
She's like, this is my mom. Thanks mom for looking out.
She said, I looked like something out of Star Wars
and she took that stuff off. Man, But it was

(35:34):
the funniest thing. I haven't laughed so hard like that.
I needed that laugh. But I'm really quick. I questioned, like, Ken,
it can is this? Can it last? Ken? It last?
Anything that grows that fast usually crumbles somewhere, And I
think that's the warm pain they're going through. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (35:52):
Yeah, there's always been a lot of great players in
women's basketball in college.

Speaker 6 (35:57):
But it took one player.

Speaker 7 (35:58):
Like everything else in America, Uh, takes one spark plug.
Do you generate a nationwide connection? I haven't followed it
real closely, but I understand the women are pretty united
and like it's been said here that there will probably
be a lockout. The other thing that I that I
was I heard the other day was Adam Silver And

(36:19):
I'm not sure what his connection is. How he's he's
in the middle of this, but then he's good. If
the w NBA starts having problems, he's going to damage
his legacy, which has been sterling ever since he got
rid of Donald Sterling.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
And because he's the head of both leagues. Yeah, so
Kathy's the commissioner, but she answered stole up from what.

Speaker 7 (36:44):
I understand, he's he's not very supportive of the women.
He basically said they should be happy with the money
they've got. It's better than it was before or something
like that. But yeah, yeah, so that's pretty ugly. I mean,
it's surprising coming for me.

Speaker 8 (37:01):
Well, I'm gonna tell you this. If Will turned off
an NFL game to watch a w NBA game, then
whatever the w NBA is doing in the marketing is working.
It's a new day because I'm watching the NFL games
right and I support the w NBA I have before Kaitlyn.
Caitlyn definitely got me on board on a different level.
I mean, I jumped on that Caitlyn train.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Boy.

Speaker 8 (37:24):
I think she's a special athlete. With that said, if
Will's if Will represents you know, this new generation of
men who's doing this, then hey, you know it is
what it is.

Speaker 6 (37:35):
Man.

Speaker 8 (37:36):
I think the w NBA is doing a great job overall.
I love to see the stars, the women being promoted,
and you know, I think it's just gonna get better
and grow. Ultimately, it comes down to the money. And
if if this commissioner is slowing up, you know, the
unity and CBA and talks, they're gonna get her out
of there, you know what I'm saying, because this is
about money. It it ain't about basketball, it ain't about feelings,

(37:58):
it ain't about the fan, and that's about bringing in
that money and making that money. And if she's slowing
it off, she's out.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Well, Mark, I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (38:07):
I will say. By the way, it was actually ex
football player, pro football player who called me and told
me to change the channel that Marvin.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
The thing about this, and I always say this part
is I was really annoyed and irritated when that she
said that about Caitlyn Clark, considering and I'm saying this,
someone like you watched someone like you watched it. I
did not before Caitlyn, I mean making notes on me
a while she knows I didn't. I never pretended otherwise.

(38:40):
But let me let me say this. Let me say
this part when one of the biggest jokes on the
Family Guy was what does how was the w n
B A Let's ask the fan.

Speaker 12 (38:51):
Yay, it was, and it was like, now they are
gigantic by far as the amount of rock Star and
all these players get.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
And it's like just to say something like that, it's
absolutely arrogant.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
All right, well here, let let's continue on. And that's this.
I want to stay on the WNBA team because it
gets even more interesting this because after Caitlin Clark's injury,
thirty nine percent the fever viewership thirty nine percent on
NBATV went down after injury, and three hundred and fifty
seven K Feaver without her versus a mysiss and five

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hundred and eighty one K versus The Atlanta Dream eight
days earlier on the same network. That's the impact that
Caitlin Park has in terms of exactly, I mean, that's
just unbelievable stuff.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
However, I think you got to shout out the rest
of the roster though, because they just continued to fight
and fight and just wouldn't go away. Every single guard
they had seven guard injured, seven Like, they had to
bring like three extra guards in and they got injured
and injured and injured. So they just didn't go away.
So shout out to them that regardless of not having

(39:59):
the season that they wanted. Man, they just continue to
show up.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
When the viewership dropped thirty nine percent on Indyen, that's
a lot their audience, you know during the injury. Yeah,
I mean, and then when you talk at three hundred
and fifty seventy K, I can't count that high. And
of course without without her against a mythic five hundred
and eighty one K, those aren't small numbers, Okay, Jacob
rapid Fire on this one, because I got a couple

(40:27):
more I have to get in with uh, got with
uh the Megan rapid Fire talks about the decline on
the attendance of Miss Clark. It's not on the floor.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
I'm just being specially honest, I mean, and all that
stuff I didn't I myself didn't watch until her and
I was watching it at Iowa when she was for myself.
So yeah, I'm not the only ones to.

Speaker 5 (40:50):
Go to admit that.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
So yeah, there would be that drop and it's like
but at the same time, they did get, they got
they got crowds even out after Caitlyn was hurt. So
there's a rock star element to the w NBA now,
which is why this is such a bad This is
such a bad timing to be able to do something
like this, and they could they could just destroy the

(41:13):
it could just destroy the momentum. I just it'd be
too bad.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Also, it's always bad timing with the w It's always
bad time.

Speaker 9 (41:22):
I mean, let's face it.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
Caitlin started in Iowa and that's where the popularity started
with what she was doing, how she was handling herself,
how she was scoring, and that just transposed to her
audiences in the w NBA. She was drawing at Iowa
with theyres record attendance there and it continued to the WNBA.

(41:45):
A lot of people follow her. A lot of people
follow certain players. I think sometimes people follow players instead
of teams, and so they're going to watch that player
whenever that player is playing, and if that player is
not there, then.

Speaker 9 (41:58):
They're going to be sad.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
Kind of like I hate to say it, but there
are people that the NBA has load management, whether they're
gonna admit it or not. They don't always play every game,
and a lot of fans get really upset when they
go to see a game, and because there might be
a casual fan or they can't afford to have like
season tickets and go to a bunch of games, or
a team's traveling in and they want to see a

(42:22):
Lebron and Lebron doesn't play because he's and then they
get upset. So I can totally see where once she
was injured it had an effect.

Speaker 5 (42:32):
Well, yeah, that's kind of what I was saying earlier.
I just don't think it's sustainable because one time you
grow too fast, things crumble, and matter of fact, even
myself this year, I find myself like I went to
turn the game on a couple of times and she
wasn't playing, So I might have watched a little bit
and went back and forth a little bit. But I
just don't watch to say, and I'm not a It's

(42:55):
not that I'm not a fan at wmbit because I
used to go to the Utah Games all the time
when they had a team. Was way back in the
was it the late nineties, I believe it was early
two thousand. I can't remember when it was. But yeah,
but I just wonder if it's sustainable and if when
you grow too fast, you're just gonna crumble and then fight.
And they're fighting too, So yeah, that's bad.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Bad.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Also, also, Marvin, you want to know who was a
big fan, way way way like probably when Caitlin was
ten years old. Jesse the Body Ventura, huge fan. He
every view he was on, he would promote the w NBA.
He said it was better team ball, better everything. So
there are people, I mean, by itself, there will I

(43:38):
don't use me as an example of a fan. I
just say that was I was just an individual. But
there are ones like that. It's gonna be too bad
for them.

Speaker 8 (43:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (43:48):
John Wooden said the same stuff that he enjoyed. He
thought the women's game was more fundamentally based.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
Oh yeah, you know part of it.

Speaker 6 (43:55):
I think it's just cyclical or the nature of sports.

Speaker 7 (44:00):
I can remember before Magic, the Lakers didn't sell out
the Forum.

Speaker 6 (44:06):
People didn't care about the Lakers before the Forum. Why
did the.

Speaker 7 (44:10):
Jets sign Joe Namas? Ticket sales went up throughout the AFL.
If you have a women's track meet next week, nobody
show up. If you have an Olympic women's track meet,
the stadium's full.

Speaker 6 (44:25):
So some of it's just cyclical.

Speaker 8 (44:29):
Yeah, And really, to Tom's point, you know, another reason
why Caitlyn is just so different and so amazing is
she reminds me of like Tiger Woods and Michael Jordan
and Muhammad Ali and how they impacted the business of
their sport. They moved the needle, They were the game
changers of their sport. They brought the masses to their sport,

(44:50):
you know. And that's what Tiger did, without question, That's
what Jordan did. And I'm starting to smell the same
thing with Caitlin. I really am. I think she has
a long way to go to get to where those
guys are at. But I think you're looking at somebody
who could be in that conversation because all the signs
are showing that. I think it's amazing. And let me listen.
I wasn't I'm not a I wasn't a w NBA

(45:12):
die hard. But I love competition. I love competition at
the highest level. Whether it's man, man, women, it doesn't
matter to me. College pro doesn't matter. So I was
a guy who absolutely would catch you know, a few
w NBA games in there. But when that girl and
Iowa started doing what she was doing and I was
glued to that TV, it was a pointle TV for me,

(45:33):
and I wanted to see it live on television. I'm
looking at her as potentially, you know, the next Holly
Jordan Tiger in regards to how she's changing the business
and moving the masses.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Well, I'll pose out the topic this way unless you
want to add one quick thing, Jacob, go ahead, Jacob, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
That's but you you want to know why I believe
truly that she is such in that realm. I'm talking
about Michael Jordan and from that thing from the nineties
and whatever I'll put to Larry Bird in this also
is people that watch they when they watched Michael, they
watched Larry, they watch all that stuff. They're just watching
somebody who's focused almost exclusively on her basketball and her

(46:17):
skill and everything, and if everybody brings any other subject up,
she is very little to say about it other than
like on and up, like they brought up. They brought
up about the black and white in the thing, and
she had about a paragraph to say, which a lot
of them accepted it and a lot of them more irritated.
But she's focused on basketball, and that's what makes the

(46:41):
star out of something like this and everything, because there's
just a lot of people that just want to watch
sports to escape the world that we see right now.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
All right, well, I'll tell you this. I am a
Sophie Cunningham man. And you know what, I am a
Soulthie Cunningham fan because she protects Caitlin Clark. She does
much better job protecting Caitlyn Clark than Rosie Greer did
projecting Robert. So from there, I'm leaving it at that.

(47:11):
There's a sense of humor. Sophie Cunningham. I believe. I believe, Sophie,
you're great. I became a fan of you. I remember,
I'm a guy that covered that bad boy. How can
I not be a fan of her? And by the way,
the name Sophie isn't a bad name. My grandmother. I
have a legendary grandmother named Sophie Morton Rot. That was
that too. So from one Sophie to another, Sophie Cunningham,

(47:33):
you're my hero. Protect Caitlyn Clark, the w be hanging
had a punchers chance. And I'll continue one more topic
that I think is good, and then timey we're gonna
get back to football. But I can't leave without this one.
In fact, I got two more topics that are necessary
that I need Megan on and this is one of them.

(47:54):
Candy and I had the opportunity to cover the NCAA
Women Final four and the young lady by the name
of Pee Ever heard of her, that little blonde bomber
that played for Dallas. Oh my god. The Wings. No,
not the Dallas Red Wings. We have the Detroit Red winge.
As you tell my my shirt that was wings, which
there is no red colors. Early care. But nevertheless, Page
Backers is going to athlete male or female to defeat

(48:17):
six number one seeds in the NCAA Tournament. Twenty twenty two.
She defeated number one Ant State. In twenty twenty two.
She had Stanford Cardinals of course, Candy and I will
see the Stanford Cardinals football team this weekend. Then twenty
twenty four and USC Martint sorry, but you know they
got it. They didn't see you twice in twenty twenty
four and twenty five and UCLA, Candy and I saw

(48:40):
that whipping, and of course South Carolina that was even worse.
Oh my gosh, the legend of Pageveckers, Megan, I'm glad
you definitely get to come on the show to listen
to all about all these people.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Absolutely, so Page is somebody that you know, the year
before Caitlin really got big, we were paying attention to her.
If you're a basket ball fan, you were paying attention
to Kate Liar regardless. But when Page one National Player
of the Year as a freshman, and then she got
hurt the next year, and then she got hurt the
next year again, Caitlyn Starr really just started to shine

(49:14):
super super bright. And I think in the in between
times people forgot how good Page Beckers is. And when
they came back, they went on a historic run and
it started with a loss to Tennessee. Tennessee is a
wild card anytime you see them, because they've got this coach,
coach Caledwell and she runs the system where she checks

(49:37):
out five players at a time every minute to forty
five seconds to two minutes. Every single minute forty five
or two minutes, she's switching out five to four players
at a time. And when you are a tough defensive
team like they are, and they were a great three
point shooting team as well, they handed Yukon a pretty

(49:57):
rough loss. And we saw Gino go in the press
and I wasn't a big fan of this at the time,
but clearly the man knows more about basketball than I do.
He knows more about winning than all of us probably
in the world. You know, clearly he knew what he
was doing because he went in the press and he
criticized Page immediately. He said it started with the leadership
on the floor. And we saw Page come out and

(50:20):
do some amazing things last season. And then she won
Rookie of the Year as well, and shout out to
Yukon having both Rookies of the Year in the professional
leagues coming out of Yukon. Stephan Castle who plays for
My Teeth Despars he's playing right now. And then Page
Becker's got Rookie of the year there in Dallas. Coaching
is so important and we talked about this before. Leadership,

(50:42):
your ownership, your GM and those are all issues in
Dallas right now. They had six head coaches in the
last eight years. That speaks volumes. And if you want
to say that's a coaching problem, or if you want
to say that's a GMing problem or an ownership problem,
it's a lot of problems. And you got to figure
out who you're going to put at the helmet things
because Page is generational. She didn't get the same records

(51:07):
in college that others got, but she got that ring. Baby,
she's a winner.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
You know what. I know. You only have about five minutes,
so I need to come on one more topic. Okay,
Elijah Martin who came out of Florida play for FAU.
What kind of a player do you think he's going
to be in the NBA? So they say he's probably
one of the most complete two way guards in college.
So yeah, he was great, and of course he did

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well for to go ahead.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
So I am such a huge proponent of defense that
I hate that we even use the term two way
player because you should be playing both sides of the ball.
Like it shouldn't be one sided like that. Like I
realize you're going to have a few role players that
come in for certain things, like Danny Green for the Spurs.
We knew he was going to come in and hit
a pocket three, like that's what he was going to do.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Always.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
However, your superstars need to be two way players regardless.
So I think that he's going to do tremendous because
that's not necessarily the norm anymore in NBA, and I
guess really any level of basketball to be to be honest,
because we've seen that transition to other levels. It looks
very similar to the international game. I think the NBA

(52:17):
is kind of transitioning to that. I'm interested to see though,
how this will change because we have a lot of
height in the league this year. They're huge, super tall. Okay,
see they have a lot of height. The Pelicans have
a lot of height. We got Luke Cordnett and Wimby
there at San Antonio, Like, there's a lot of big men.

(52:37):
Are we going to see the return of post play?
So if this young man can get in there and
make a name for him on the defensive side of
the ball, I think that the adjustments on the offensive
side of the ball will come because there's always a
learning curve when you switch from I guess we're calling
them semi pro now to fully professional because you know

(52:58):
them being paid. I don't think that they're amateur athletes anymore.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
Well, I'll tell you I saw him play that for you,
great player under Dusty Man. And then of course I
think it's a TODDL Todd Golden. I think it is
candy out in Florida. So it's good coaching your talents.
So Elijah Martin is a real deal. Sor right, Megan,
I know you have to roll on them in so
until let everybody know they get ahold of you, and
then we'll go ahead and I'll give everybody the rest
of the topics on make sure you got these important ones.

(53:24):
Then thank you very much for being out sport to
change and look forward to you have me on hopefully
a little bit longer than next time, but I want
to make sure you got a little bit of football
and some quality basketball as well. Go ahead, Megan, let
everybody know they get hold of you.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
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(53:58):
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Speaker 1 (54:14):
It's a great show. Yeah she's Katy, says everybody, but
I'm glad that she's a part of your show.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
This is a saving grace.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Yes, with you Carrie Johnson, Jennifer Matthews and Kennedy and
the new lady. I don't know anything about her name. Well,
you guys are a hit and I'm glad that you
spent a little time tonight, so hopefully we'll catch a
when you have another opportunity to come on. Meghan, I
adore you very much or a great friend, and thank

(54:41):
you very much for being on the Sports Exchange. Everybody.
This is Megan Price, a queen of who I'm over
City of Madama. Enjoy your roof of your evening, Megan. Okay,
there you go. All right, Jacob, Now I can take
the leash off you a little bit. Man. I have
to make sure we got good talk about Page Beckers.

(55:04):
What kind of a player this girl is?

Speaker 3 (55:06):
This the first year is tremendous. But here's where my
thought process is.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Well, I'm not only talking about her first year. I'm
talking about what she's take in college. All those number
one things that mentioned in the first year.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
Oh yeah, but you're talking about that. We're talking about her.
I'm talking about this and her knees. I know, yeah,
I'm I'm wondering that for the next year. She played wonderful,
she's she was awesome at Yukonju was awesome first year.
My main thing I think about right now, she's had
two knee injuries. It reminds me of Michael Pendix, who
is having a problem with his knees right now in Atlanta.

(55:37):
So let's see what in the year two brings. But
right now she looks awesome, you.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Know, I mean, being all those number one season no
male or female athletes ever done that before. That's what
makes a statto astonishing.

Speaker 4 (55:51):
You know, we got to I got the I got
the privilege to be on the on the side of
the court and take pictures of her whilst she was playing,
and to see the true talent that she has that
you know it and she does it like effortlessly, like
it just you know, I mean, I'm in an awe because,

(56:12):
like I was never that good obvious to play basketball.
But what she's done for her teams and helping her teams,
you know, it's just been nothing shy of remarkable. She
was received so many honors, so many trophies.

Speaker 9 (56:31):
Let's hope.

Speaker 4 (56:32):
I mean, obviously last year she had really good success.
Let's hope if there is a season that she continues.

Speaker 9 (56:38):
To have success.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
I'll say one thing before I go, before I turn
her over. If the NBA launch out this the league
is dead. Nineteen ninety four Baseball strike. This league doesn't
have enough cash a to survive anything like that. That's
what I think. That's all I'm going to say. Well,
we'll stay on point with Pete Becker's. This young lady's
a sparklow. Gina oria'ma likes her but he's had some

(57:02):
interesting times coaching her. But for being able to beat
six number one, See this young lady certainly knows how
to play well in the clutch or a matter as
well for either me.

Speaker 5 (57:14):
Oh how tall this page?

Speaker 8 (57:17):
I don't know, it's six two.

Speaker 5 (57:19):
I think okay, Well, I think she'd be okay. Like
I'm concerned, Like I've never really followed her career or anything.
But what I do know about injuries. I had my
last collegiate race, I had my knee scoped, and after
my last Olympic race, I had to have a micro
fracture repair. And and you know, these doctors are so
much better these days, and I was blessed after those,

(57:41):
both of those surgeries to just be able to continue
to be an active person, whether it was sports or
just being a human being just walking around doing stuff.
But sometime, you know, basketball is a different beast. You
can't It's a lot of pounding up and down, up
and down, up and down on their court. So I
just want I want to watch her career how she does,
give her two years in the league and see where

(58:03):
she is after that. That's what can she can she
can she make it? Can she stay.

Speaker 7 (58:10):
Yeah, I think most of us knew about Page Beckers
as a freshman before we knew about Kaitlyn Clark. Right
then she got she had that Yukon platform. But then
she got the injuries, and then for whatever reason, Kaitlyn
Clark caught fire with the whole country. Uh, and which
we kind of forgot about Page Beckers. But give her
credit for coming back from those injuries and having them

(58:32):
finishing her Colls career great and then having a great
rookie season.

Speaker 8 (58:38):
Page Beckers is the definition of what you call a dog.
A dog player, this gritty, grinding out, tough, get the
job done, someone you can count on, someone you can
lean on. And what I love about hers for she's
she's a physical player. You know, basketball is absolutely a
contact sport, and that girl is physical. She takes charges,
she drops her shoulder, she gets She's come back from

(59:01):
multiple injuries, serious injuries, showing perseverance and mental toughness. I
have the ultimate respect for her as a competitor. I
have no doubt that she's going to be a great
player in a WNBA.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
I will flip back to Elijah Martin and I'll let
you comment on this one. Marvin Elijah Martin a heck
of a player. We all saw what he did, or
a championship moment unt or fau with Florida. We're you're
talked about the kind of player this guy's gonna be.

Speaker 8 (59:24):
I honestly, I don't. The name doesn't. I'm not patching
him right now. I gotta pass. I'm sorry, Scott.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
That's all right, Candy, want you to come up with
some staff and then we'll go back to Marvin. I
know you do, okay.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
So his career highlights, he was an NC two A
champion in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 9 (59:44):
Obviously, he played for SO.

Speaker 4 (59:46):
He started high school in North Pike Summit, Mississippi. He
played for Florida Atlantic from twenty twenty four, twenty twenty
to twenty four, and then Florida twenty four to twenty five.
He was the He was drafted second round, thirty ninth
overall pick. He was drafted by the Toronto Raptors. He

(01:00:08):
was first team All Conference USA twenty twenty three, second
team All AAC in twenty twenty four, third team All
Seat Conference USA in twenty twenty two, and Conference USA
Tournament MVP in twenty twenty three. He's after he played

(01:00:31):
sparingly as a freshman for the Owls, he averaged thirteen
point nine points and five point three route rebounds per
game as a sophomore. Following that, the next year, he
averaged thirteen point four points and five point three rebounds again,
so he and then his final season with Owls he

(01:00:53):
averaged again thirteen point one points and five point nine rebounds,
and then he entered the transfer portal. He transferred to
the University of Florida. He made an instant impact, emerging
as a Gators start starting shooting guard h In a
game against Southern Illinois, he recorded thirty two points, nine rebounds,

(01:01:14):
and five assists, leading Florida to a ninety three to
victory against Auburn. In the Final four, he scored seventeen
points in a seventy nine to seventy three victory. In
the national championship game against Houston, he tallied seven points,
helping lead the Gators to the school's third national championship.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
All right, we have a little more to work with
the brother.

Speaker 8 (01:01:37):
Yeah, yeah, but I heard everything I needed to hear
in the first ten seconds, because listen, in the NFL,
it's normal. You see a lot of undrafted guys make
the team like I did. Okay. In the NBA, going
into second round is like being undrafted to me, okay.
And if you don't, if you don't get picked, if
you don't get picked, really like in the top fifteen,

(01:01:59):
usually the dudes ain't you know, it ain't happening now.
I wish him the best. I love the story. I'm
rooting for all these kids to make it because I
know what it is. But like I said, it's it's
it's if he's going in thirty ninth pick I mean,
I think Briani would have headed him right when Brownie
was fifty it was fifty something.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
But you know that's my take, Scott, and I asked
you a question. Yeah you ever heard of Dennis Robin.

Speaker 8 (01:02:26):
And you Dona's has him?

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Listen?

Speaker 8 (01:02:28):
I know, but I'm saying, look at the number I
never heard.

Speaker 9 (01:02:32):
I love you D.

Speaker 8 (01:02:33):
I love you D.

Speaker 5 (01:02:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
He did pretty well. And you know what, when I
beat him in bowling, he had to pay for my
bowling after I won the second game and he won
the first one, and the criticized my farm for being
under usual. You knows right, that's the true story. People.
Dennis Robbins. All right, I think I live. I love him,
that's bring up. I'm yeah, uh tell you're the best brother,

(01:02:59):
all right, Tommy, Yeah, you're trying this little extra time
here because I got some stuff to break up your alley, Timmy.
We just had to get through these little uh little
uh act there.

Speaker 8 (01:03:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:03:10):
I don't know a lot about the guy either, but
obviously he has the big game dog, he has the
big game credentials. But he's six to two o eight
and I guess he has a lot of athleticisms. It's
gonna come down to as intangibles. But whether he's gonna
make it the NBA so and I don't know what
kind of intangibles he has.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
Well, that's good enough, all right, don't worry. I got
a topic that's gonna be really up your ally in
the second Believe me when I tell.

Speaker 5 (01:03:37):
You, well, my biggest thing is, uh when you said
he went in the second round, Like that's the kind
of concern for me because I had a h Actually
I mentioned before like I used to train Kevin Knox senior.
He sells Kevin Knox hen came out of Kentucky first
round and a great pick. It's picked by the New
York Knicks and he never gets to touch the floor.

(01:03:58):
You know, he doesn't. He's been bounced around like he
was with the Go To State the last couple of years,
but you know he doesn't get the play a lot.
So those draft picks, I'm not quite sure if they
really mean that much at this point. Like I don't
know what happens inside those camps or what. But but
I tell you what. As Candy was reading off his
status and what he did, like it was goosebumps like

(01:04:19):
like he did what like? But scary partner is once
you get to the lead, between the politics and coaching
and personalities, you just never know what's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Well, Candy Ptera did a good job there, Candy Peter,
that's a good name for We're gonna come over that one.
Candy Pedia. Oh these are good stuff, though, candy Pedia.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
You're gonna you're gonna get something from wikiped.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
Candy Pedia. I'll never hear the end of this league
game later, but that's okay. I'll deal with it all right, Yank,
go ahead, because now it couldn't get more.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
He gets some good games, and you named a few
good games, but one of the things I'm hearing with
something like this is like the thirteen points five, like
six rebounds, five point nine rebound, all that stuff. He's
in a second round, which absolutely Marvin was saying to himself,
it's like being undrafted. That's the biggest toughest part of it.
And another thing is he doesn't have any real stat

(01:05:11):
He's wondering. He's obviously a wonderful obviously a wonderful team
player to be able to move from the team, but
he doesn't have any stats that stick out to really
be a full time with the NBA. And I just
I'm I don't see a Dennis Rodman on this or
anything like that, because see one thing about Rodman, at
least he had one thing that he could really focus

(01:05:32):
with two things, defense and rebound me and really focus.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
On the second round.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, But that was the That was
the thing I was just saying, is there's just not
a there's just not a gigantic stat And it is
such a political limiting. All sports are so political now
to be able to make it on that team, and
how does he stand out wonderful team player? But in
college there's not a whole lot of team work in

(01:06:02):
the NBA at all, very isolaque.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
You think, okay, let's go okay, go ahead, Candy, We're
gonna pation break after you say something else.

Speaker 8 (01:06:11):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:06:11):
So I just want to quick go over his high
school career. So he attended North Pike High School. He
was a multi sport athlete. He played football as a quarterback,
passing for twenty one hundred yards and rushing for thirteen
hundred yards in his senior season, and in his senior
basketball season, he averaged twenty five point four points, eight

(01:06:36):
point seven rebounds, and three point four steals per game.
The one thing I will say is I think a
lot of where you get drafted obviously makes a difference.
Number wise, not so much. But he's going to Toronto
and it depends on the team that is surrounding him
whether he will have success. We've talked about coaching for

(01:07:00):
other players as quarterbacks. The same is gonna be for
him in Toronto. Let's face it, Damian Lillard left Milwaukee.
He went back to Toronto. He's gonna be one of
his teammates. He's gonna be a leader helping these young
guys succeed.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
All right, now, stop your station break Candy Okay.

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Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
All right, Tommy, I got a good one for you.
Are you ready? Yeah? Good one tier this one. Really
I had you in line with this one.

Speaker 5 (01:08:34):
Don't worry.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
There's some other good ones on the way. The NCAA
did permanently banned three men's basketball players, MIKEL Robinson, Jalb Weaver,
and Steven Backwet from betting on their own games and
manipulating outcomes. Presno State and San Jose State dismissed the
players but did not face Finally, this is bad stuff
on me.

Speaker 6 (01:08:55):
Hey, I'm not a gambler, so I don't follow that
stuff closely.

Speaker 7 (01:08:59):
But from everything I understand, the you know, the more
gambling is legal, the more U you catch the bad
guys or the the trends are are noticed.

Speaker 6 (01:09:14):
So I really have a lot to add to that one.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
Oh that's no problem, Tommy, I got a few more,
don't worry, Marvin. Some thoughts on this injury.

Speaker 8 (01:09:23):
Absolutely inn on the player's part, especially in the day
of n I L. That's just greed. That's just as
greed as ignorance. They know better at the at the
collegiate level and in pro sports they tell you constantly
are signs on the wall. You know, they have meanings
for this. You you hear about Pete Rose and all
these other dudes. There's there's no excuse for it, you know, honestly,

(01:09:44):
these kids are these kids are young. I believe in forgiveness,
So I think the embarrassment. You know how people are now,
question they're integrating and everything else is damaging and they'll
deal with that. But you know, there's no excuse and
let them be a lesson.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
Well but what was that? Football and basketball? Basketball?

Speaker 5 (01:10:03):
Basketball? Well, you know what, man, When I was in college, man,
I remember some of my teammates. They was always gambling,
always gambling. I remember we used to take a road
trip from Utah all the way down to Newport Beach
every year for spring break. We had to stay with
the team and train. So halfway down here was how money.
Before we leave Utah were driving down, we stopped in Vegas.
These guys always two years in a row. I watched

(01:10:24):
them gamble their money away. So by the time we
get to Los Angeles, these guys are paying for food
like this, They eat Revenewodles, I'm eating steak, you know,
because that gambling is a sickness. And I saw with
the Olympic team too, those guys. Some people just they'll vote,
they'll gamble anything, you know. I was, man, I can
write a book on that alone. But I think it's
a sickness more than it is just kids being stupid.

(01:10:48):
Excellent point, Jacob.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
Well, growing up, I'll let me say this. Well, let
me say this. Growing up, I watched wrestling. It was
grilling mont soon, gigantic gambler, like he carried forty thousand
dollars in cash with him to go gamble. Wow, and
if he had a good day, he's going out with
double you know. But at the same time he can
also lose forty thousand in the morning before a wedding.

Speaker 5 (01:11:11):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
It's like, you know, you have all that stuff, but
he was in a There's a huge difference on this.
These ones that are doing this right now are on
basically every two weeks and wait over every month waiting
for their check. Someone like Gorilla is showed by show
by show by show, and you're always getting a check
in the mail. So you could be able to do
something like that. So the but the biggest, the biggest

(01:11:32):
thing that we can say with the gambling by itself
is you really don't see you always see the role
players all that kind of stuff like that. They don't
get them. They're trying to gamble into getting the same
amount of money that saye. Lebron gets. I mean, plus
they love the excitement, plus they get all that kind
of stuff. They don't get there. And it's like by itself,

(01:11:53):
they've been doing this since they're probably ten years old.
And you're right, there's a freak of there's a freakishness
to it, in a sickness to it. They probably didn't
I mean, is it ignorant, like Martin said, absolutely, it's ignorant,
it's stupid. And it's like we're on the internet. We're
on the internet and everything. But I have a question
to ask on this right here. How much I'm not

(01:12:17):
saying up by skill, how much would Michael Jordan be
a star now or would he get caught with the
way now? I mean he he can bet sixty thousand
a hole whatever he does you know in his timeewlaying
golf now and do all that and back in the
time you didn't have all those bets. He could just
make his bets with his bookies and get threatened to

(01:12:37):
go pay. You know, he could do they could do
that in the silence. Now, all of that, it's like
as all out there. So how much would Michael Jordan
have been a star or would they have banned him
immediately in this day and age.

Speaker 5 (01:12:51):
There's actually a documentary that's floating around Hollywood right now.
The director actually he contacted me through a friend of
mine and asked me to help them put this thing.
But it has a lot of people's name in it.
Matter fac He even has uh a confession from what's
his name, Pete Rose. He's got Pete Rose confession before
he passed. But there's Jordan in there, as Charles Barklay,

(01:13:13):
and there's a whole lot of names that I probably
won't say here, but yeah, it's it's definitely a sickness,
I believe, because you just can't take that stuff too
far in yourself.

Speaker 6 (01:13:24):
Junior lost a lot of money that way.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
Junior.

Speaker 5 (01:13:30):
Yeah, right, yeah, right probably junior Junior highway, junior high up.
Junior say he was also real sick too, you know, Yeah,
it's real sick.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
A lot more, that's for sure. We do that for
another day, all right, Candy has the last word. I
want to talk about Tommy though, and what transpire today
after this topic, and a couple more football things, college
football that I know Tommy loves to talk about. All right,
So go ahead, Candy.

Speaker 9 (01:13:55):
They're absolutely ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (01:13:58):
I mean, gambling is so readily accessible now that it's
so easy to do. But let's face it, that's the
whole reason why Pete Rose isn't in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 9 (01:14:08):
And we've all talked about it.

Speaker 6 (01:14:09):
Shitty or shouldn't he?

Speaker 4 (01:14:11):
These kids know better, they're told not to do it,
and yet they still want to do it. You know,
they should be banned. I'm sorry they should.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
Okay, fair enough. One of the big stories that occurred today,
Jacob made me aware of it. I did a little
bit of research. Tom is a rip the NCAA for
allowing G League players back in college hoop is ridiculous
to me, It's embarrassing. He made notation of the fact
that Louisville went ahead and brought on a player and
they got got is o work. So, Jacob, you talked

(01:14:45):
about it with me earlier. Give me your thoughts about
what took place here, what Tom is in the G League, obviously,
the players going back to college, who was just a
pretty interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
It's you know what it looks like. Now it's going
to be a they're going to be a standard. Now
we're going to see try see more of this. It's okay,
I failed here, so let me try again. That's what
it looks like. But it's kind of pulling that whole
idea between as Megan called a semi pro to pro
and it's making that that then now it really is.

(01:15:16):
And then here's another deal. If they allow this more
and more, how much is it going to be like
dream Team for the nineteen ninety two versus all of
those teams like AOLA, how much is it going to
be It's like, are we gonna have any you have
a duke in North Carolina? Are we going to have
any more rivalries after? Because if you're allowed to get pros,
all the bigger Kentuckyes, the Dukes, the Syracuses, the North Carolinas,

(01:15:41):
all they we're gonna be picking up all of those players.
So the competition is gonna be less and less because
they're gonna have pros on the team.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
Now, Temmy, what's your take on this?

Speaker 7 (01:15:53):
I read about this is always upset about, was that
the NCAA made the decisions without consulting the color about
their opinions. It's talking about now you're gonna have pro
players former pro players. What are you supposed to tell
the freshman year recruited right, where does he fit into
the team?

Speaker 5 (01:16:12):
Wait?

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
What?

Speaker 6 (01:16:13):
Yeah, it's terrible. We been on a slippery slope ever since.

Speaker 7 (01:16:19):
I was always against the ni L and all that
stuff because it's just a slippery slope that's led to
where we are now.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
Yeah, I think it's took it up, tooking a new
level today with all this stuff that came about Marvin.

Speaker 8 (01:16:34):
Yeah. From from a player's perspective, I love it. I
love that the player has the flexibility to do that
good for them. I played in the nineties where you
couldn't do anything. There's no n I L, there's no
revenue sharing, there's none of that. So, and obviously it's
a different sport, but player empowerment. You know, these guys
are making a lot of money. Uh that the sports
generating a lot of money, And at the end of

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the day, that's what it comes down. To It's not
about the fans, y'all. It's not but about our feelings.
How can they make money, how can they improve their product,
how can they bring in more sponsorships, how can they
get people in the stands. That's what it comes down to.
I don't have an issue with it. And listen, at
the end of the day, people have a problem with change.
You know, we have the same to Tom's point of
n I l we have the same broken system for

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one hundred years. Okay, I call it broke for one
hundred years. So I can understand how football traditionalists, you know,
have an issue with you know, where they're getting paid
now and you get to go like, you know, and
they don't. Plus they don't understand the reality of the
business and how the players are the ones bringing the
money in. So you know, it's it's a new day,
that's all. That's all we're seeing. It's a new day.

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The game is changing, the business and the games and
change is changing, and you know, us old timers are
stuck here having to deal with it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
Hey, can I ask you a question though, Marvin, please?
I mean that's this is the thing, is that you're
correct on that because what I said about ni L.
You weren't here yet when I said, I've been saying
this many times on here and CAA's get what they
what they do serve with an il because of all
the goofiness that they did to put exactions on they
put sections on coaches for kid getting the kid of

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food they put they put it on themselves. So I've
said that a thousand times. Well, let me ask you this.
There are ones that are very smart with money, any
and every any and every player that's ever had a business, dad, business, uncle, business, whatever.
Any of these players that know this will be well

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and ready. But there's a lot of players that don't
have that. Are they ready for the responsibility of that
kind of money or would they get themselves broke by
spending now learning all that kind of stuff like that?
That's my question.

Speaker 8 (01:18:39):
Yeah, and I've heard that question before. I've heard people
say that they're going to spend the money and go
broke with it. If that's what they choose to do,
that's that's that's them. Unfortunately, the reality is this, why
don't we have the same energy for these young other entertainers,
the kids on Disney, these young singers with you? How
come why are we targeting the young athletes and not
anybody else? And these are the runs responsible for the

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two point five billion dollars these conferences are getting paid.
You know what I'm saying. I'm with you on that, Yeah,
I got But to your point, so I don't know
for a fact what the schools do. But when you
look at for example, USC, who's you know, big big
ni l Now, I would have a hard time believing
that when they're pitching these freshmen, are these scenes in

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high school and they're talking to these kids about nil
and how much money they're gonna make. I have a
hard time believing that they don't have a program or
some type of something in place to help guide them
through that. I would go on, I would bet my
life that they do. But I haven't heard that, so
I don't want to say for sure, but there's no
way that these that these schools are giving these kids
the money and and nobody is helping guide these kids.

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So it is what it is. Like I said, this
whole thing is just it just happened, and we're still
trying to figure out put up the guardrails and the
rules and how we're going to do this it's a
it's a slippery slope for sure, but it ain't going nowhere.

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
Boy, you brought up a good point with Disney though,
because I've been with the Disneys, with the Nickelodeons, with
all that stuff. I've been wanting this stuff for ages.
How many of those how many of the kids I'm
hearing from those areas have gone broke, They've gone are homeless.
All these child stars, Oh my god, I want to
see something like that for them also, absolutely.

Speaker 5 (01:20:17):
Yeah, yeah I won't. What's your take on this? My
take is the system is working. It's working, but the
problem is they was trying to get these people on
the screen right here, but it got these kids because
if you look right now, man, I stopped watching ESPN
because like every time everything report they do, it's about

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numbers and points swings. I don't understand any of that.
I'm not a gambler, but it's they doing it, beat it,
beating it down our throats. Now you cannot get away
from it, and so it's gonna affect everybody who watches it.
Who's watching it these young kids because they want to
be on ESPN, So it was designed to happen. They
just didn't expect. They just didn't hope. They was gonnat

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to the kids. They didn't think that far. But it's
happened by design. This is this is America.

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
This is what they do.

Speaker 4 (01:21:06):
Heny Izzo said, today's college basketball has no rules and
kids aren't the problem. We're the problem. I'm going to
get myself in trouble. I'm not really excited about the
NCAA or whoever is making these decisions without talking to us,
just letting it go. Someone is going to say, well,

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if they go pro and it doesn't work out, they
should be able to come back. Well what about the
freshman you recruited there. That's somebody's son and he thinks
he got himself a good place, and all of a sudden, shazam,
they pull out of their hat and bring in a
twenty or twenty one or twenty two year old from
the G League.

Speaker 9 (01:21:47):
To me, that's ridiculous and it's embarrassing.

Speaker 4 (01:21:51):
You know, there's our reach. There's two of them. They Darien,
twenty one, committed to Santa Clara last month after spending
parts of two seasons in the G League, while London Johnson,
who spent three seasons in the league, will attend Louisville.
So do I hate that's fair? No, No, you there's

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a progression. And I don't think once you step over
that line into the pros the G League, you can
come back to college sports. But that's my personal opinion.

Speaker 3 (01:22:26):
Well, Candy, the thing about it, I say is I
think a lot of people aren't going to take ISO
seriously unfortunately on something like this because he comes up
with Age Simpson, the yell out of cloud, the mentality
all the time that he sounds like that with so
many differs, and not just this. He sounds like.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
Back in my day.

Speaker 3 (01:22:48):
Back in my day, we did we shot two handed
set shines. That's what he sounds like. In every kind
of every argument he sounds like. It's like the only
thing that sounded that now was the fact that he
doesn't blame kids. He blames us and their parents and
all that stuff. So that's the first time he hasn't
sounded really old. But are they If you hear a

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younger coach bring it up, they might say something, But
a lot of the older coaches, they're gonna just sound like, oh,
he's well past this prime.

Speaker 5 (01:23:18):
What about that fifty seven year old linebacker? So what
what about that fifty seven year old linebacker, collegiate linebacker?

Speaker 3 (01:23:25):
All right, yeah, he's back.

Speaker 5 (01:23:28):
Yeah, and he's getting money, man, he's got deals.

Speaker 8 (01:23:31):
Yeah, only in America.

Speaker 1 (01:23:33):
Back in America. Well you know, well, you know what,
that's a great transition, Marvin, because only in America college
just as a Tom Shanahan special. And yes, we're gonna
get a Shanahan report in a few minutes. Okay, hang it, Tommy.
I appreciate your patience hanging with us a little. I
appreciate you, buddy. You will get a Shanahan reference tonight.
I promise you that. Okay, but only in America? Can

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we schedule games out this part? James VNDERSONI verse see
Liberty play each other September fifteenth, twenty forty people the
partners college football game on record. Now we went to
twenty thirty nine and twenty forty Jane Managon University at Liberty.
What do you think, Tommy, you gotta leave this one,
Tom Shanana, maybe somebody else, so about this one, Tommy.

Speaker 7 (01:24:18):
Hey, they've always scheduled games ten years out of advance,
So twenty that thirty nine, that's only fourteen years.

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
I think fourteen, twenty forty.

Speaker 7 (01:24:28):
Yeah, you know, once they started expanding eleven and twelve games,
it wasn't so much ten years, But before then it
was always a ten years since. I don't yeah, I
don't think it's much. I don't think much of it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:42):
Okay, that's fine, good enough, Okay, Well do you think there, Marvin?
I don't know. We're all I have an idea. We're
abbing in twenty foury. But that's but with the rest
of my family, it's Candy sad to stop. She's used
to it, but she but she on the life. She's
the reason I even made it this far. Go ahead, Marvin,

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twenty four he gave managed in liberty. You want me
to get your presidential for it?

Speaker 8 (01:25:08):
Listen. Yeah, let's do it, brother, Okay, day and do it. Yeah,
you know, they just locking up the business. That's all
I'm with Tom.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
No story here, no problem, certainly worth putting out there, though,
let's schedule out everything fifteen years apart. What do you say, Will.

Speaker 5 (01:25:26):
I'm not quite sure on that one, but what I
am But what I am sure is I need your book, man,
I need autograph books from you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:33):
Okay, we'll work on it.

Speaker 13 (01:25:35):
But I need everybody to design it. You guys are
part of my journey. Brother, You're part of us here.
You're part of our journey. Every when you come on
Wednesday Night, you're part of our journey. And when we
go on our other show, you're part of our journey. Well,
don't worry.

Speaker 1 (01:25:50):
I got another interesting college football one as well, Canty,
to talk about this game fifteen years from that.

Speaker 4 (01:25:59):
Ye know, with conference relignment like we have, are we
gonna see more conference relignment? And will they We've seen
teams then de commit from what they scheduled years in advance,
so because of they can't fit them all in. So
you never know that that could happen with this too.

Speaker 3 (01:26:15):
You just never know, Okay, Jacob, Well, I mean if
it's fourteen fifteen years, we once had it for ten,
we're gonna see in twenty years. Soon we're gonna see
eight year olds setting up the Uh, it's just setting
up the schedules and everything like that. So it's just
it's not a huge deal. And by the way, you're
gonna look to one hundred and she's gonna go.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
And Cat says next to me, all the time, I'll
be in my rushing chair wherever I buy the thing
at anyways, and I think they got in a cracker
a little fit here at some point. All right, well
that's good enough. All right. Does anybody know who Ohio's
state's real rivalry is in the state inside the state.

Speaker 5 (01:26:51):
Ohio?

Speaker 1 (01:26:53):
Anybody want to take the cats at it?

Speaker 6 (01:26:56):
Football?

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
Universal? Yeah, football Youngstown. You gotta take a guess, anybody.
There's the reason why I brought this topic of sor right,
let's have some fun with this one. Ohio State defeated
Ohio University of Ohio Ohio University thirty seven and nine. People,
there's Boat Jackson. Get this Boat Jexon, not the one

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we all know though, by the way, made a name
for himself in the Ohio State backfield. And get this,
Ohio State played Ohio State for the first nime of
fifteen years in Ohio State paid Ohio one point nine
million dollars to play the game. What point nine million
dollars didn't even to wine.

Speaker 3 (01:27:37):
To do it?

Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
Marvel when you think about this riory Ohio State University,
the buck Eyes against Ohio bodcasts, people.

Speaker 8 (01:27:44):
That this tough man Ohio State. You know they got
a forty million dollars payroll, and uh I know those
Bobcats do not have anything close to that. So this
is tough man, you talking about two different caliber athletes.
But it's football, you know, any given Sunday, any given Saturday.
The reality is though, Ohio State versus Ohio now, that's

(01:28:04):
that's a massacre they walked into. They walked into a
murder on that one.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
For thirty seven to nine game. I'll take one point
nine million dollars all the time. And Snowburger made a
living DFAU program doing it. What do you think of
that rivalry? Thomas Hey.

Speaker 7 (01:28:19):
For the longest time, Ohio State wouldn't play any of
those Mid America Conference teams both A Green, Ohio, Miami.

Speaker 6 (01:28:26):
Wouldn't play any of them.

Speaker 7 (01:28:28):
Now look now that the times have changed, they they'll
pay him and then run up the score on them.

Speaker 6 (01:28:35):
So yeah, that's that's Ohio State.

Speaker 1 (01:28:38):
What's one point nine million dollars to give it to
your little baby, baby baby baby brother.

Speaker 7 (01:28:43):
Now it's worth of two him. Before that was beneath him.
Now it's worth of two him if they could run.

Speaker 6 (01:28:47):
Up the score.

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
Okay, absolutely, Timmy, don't worry. It gets better. You only
have one more football subject there on the hook for
then you get the Shanahan report. And if Jacob's a
good boy gets funded funded, okay, and I'm sure he will.
I love Jacob, you know that. Man. All Right, well
what do you what do you think, buddy.

Speaker 5 (01:29:04):
Man, there's a lot of schools that take those whoopings.
I remember Universal Pacific used to do it all the time.
But those kids get beat up. I mean they coming
back broke legs on some clappicals and that schools getting
that money. I think it's a bad it's bad. It's awful.
Like these schools shouldn't be playing No USC or any
of those schools. Man, they need to probably need to
do something. They probably need to stop some of that. However,

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every now then you see Appalachian States show up and
you know, knock off Michigan or somebody. Yeah, you just
never know what's gonna happen.

Speaker 6 (01:29:38):
But yeah, but.

Speaker 5 (01:29:42):
They gotta do better.

Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:29:46):
Yeah, this kid, I'm telling you, they're coming back with
broke legs and all types of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
A year after here. So Michigan was their ego and
they had to schedule for another five hundred grand to
make the service one to one all time.

Speaker 5 (01:29:58):
What Michigan and State.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
Now Appalachian State, they ended up.

Speaker 8 (01:30:03):
They had a lot that you brought it up.

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
They ended up, especially another game in Michigan did win
that one, but they had the same faith though that
they were one against that date. But I will, I
will say this much about it. One of my friends
who's actually a prognostic prognosticator asked me a question about it,
so I have ahelious he will be a lot more
close to people think because I knew after they won
a championship at that level, Boy was it ever to

(01:30:26):
a point where was a big upset and nowadays it
is be so months of one when those teams win.
But boy, people are conscious of after Michigan State is that.

Speaker 5 (01:30:35):
They beat a big school. Then they go back and
lose in their after.

Speaker 1 (01:30:40):
Like, you know what, what's what that? Really?

Speaker 6 (01:30:43):
Seriously, you're asking me for.

Speaker 1 (01:30:45):
A buck to give it. I have a problem sleeping.

Speaker 5 (01:30:51):
The only thing you can hope for that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
James Madison Games. They have a hyperbaric chamber inside a
hotel room so they can use it depending how big
they are are there. You go, that works all right,
I'm sure, Okay, I don't know what hotel they have
out there, alleys ball find out I have.

Speaker 5 (01:31:09):
These guys are traveling with these cottage players are traveling
with these now travels underhead with.

Speaker 1 (01:31:15):
Arcadie. Some talks about this rivalry. A couple more topics
I want to get through who gets in that sports,
but I hold them over next week.

Speaker 4 (01:31:22):
The lesser known school gets paid a lot of money
to for Ohio State to beat them up, but it
helps their program, and let's face it, they need those
funds to be more competitive within their own conference. That's
how FA you started. That's how they started building their program.

Speaker 9 (01:31:45):
That's how you build.

Speaker 4 (01:31:45):
That's how you get stadiums for some of these, you know,
smaller schools.

Speaker 9 (01:31:49):
That's how you get some of their players. And probably.

Speaker 4 (01:31:53):
So am I surprised. No, And actually that's probably a
closer score than I would have really thought it would
have been. I dread Saturday because I'm just hoping Wisconsin
can be at least that close to Ohio State when
they play them this weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:32:14):
Okay, there you go, take them.

Speaker 3 (01:32:16):
It wouldn't let me say this part. No, one, all
of these teams that take all this money and some
of them are winning. Now, not that Ohio's gonna be
Ohio State obviously. But the one thing that you noticed,
I am shocked that some of these teams don't like,
think ahead a little bit and get out of a
conference and go independent. So they can take ten teams
eleven teams that are really really good, go oh and

(01:32:38):
eleven and go get all that money, and then they
could rebuild their stadium. They could do all that stuff,
then go find a conference.

Speaker 1 (01:32:45):
Later.

Speaker 5 (01:32:46):
You have to rebuild their players too, because they know
we are broken up. Yeah, they didn't take those wickends. Man,
those whoopings they take. No, No, you're correct on that.

Speaker 3 (01:32:54):
But I'm like, I'm shocked that someone hadn't thought of
something like that because a lot of these times whatsoever,
they are down on money, you know, so it's like
they need every dying for that moment. So it shocked
me that someone hasn't thought of that yet. You know,
just try not to go into a commerci or start
you know, or start out like that and just go

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play and see what happens. Yeah, it would be tough
on the players. It'd be like Tampa Bay in nineteen
seventy six and just be a bunch of beat up
and you'd have a bunch of truckers to try to
replace them. But the but that's where I'm at is
like they probably do two or three of those games
a year, but they got conference games, so then the
rest of the time it's beat them. You would you
would think by something, start the conference games almost early

(01:33:37):
and then go to it later the years, so these
kids are ready, they're fresh because they're going to the
conference games destroyed.

Speaker 5 (01:33:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:33:44):
True, That's why I was actually surprised Miami played Notre
Name first and then went to some of the lesser opponents.
And that's another time, Timmy. The last football topic we're
gonna talk about, then we'll go to Shanahan report. Thanks
for hanging with me a little bit longer. I appreciate
it great, Brandon, obviously he's got a wonderful job an
inside to pick comes unsports of shame twice a month.
Then he'll and I appreciate it, all right. The last
thing we're talking about is the pro top of the

(01:34:05):
Pittfrid Steelers with the recent one aer now nineteen and
one versus the Browns under ninth under Mike Tomlin, they
were eighteen to one. Previously the lone loss was in
the twenty twenty one playoffs. You talk about the mastery
of Cleveland, Tommy at home, I'm gonna tell you something.
The Pittford Steelers definitely have the Browns number. What are
your talks about that, Tom, Mike.

Speaker 6 (01:34:26):
Commins, the coach.

Speaker 1 (01:34:28):
Yeah, yeah, is Deeelers are always going to be good. Yeah,
I mean the dominance over Cleveland that doesn't surprise you
at all.

Speaker 6 (01:34:40):
Cleveland's a joke.

Speaker 1 (01:34:41):
Yeah, there you go, Okay, Marvin.

Speaker 8 (01:34:47):
Yeah, Cleveland. I mean, listen, we can get eleven people
from the South fold up Tribune and go out and
meet the Browns, you know, close right, But listen, you
know Tom, and Tom said, you know, he's good, you know,
but you know, after so many years, it's time for
him to transition beyond just being able to beat the Browns.

(01:35:07):
Hopefully him and a Rock can do something in the AFC.
But yeah, it's dominance. The Browns have had, you know,
a new quarterback, you feel like, every single year since
they started in ninety nine. And I'll tell you about
those Browns. They their first winever was against me, my
rookie year. They beat us when a hell Mary in
the Superdome last play of the game. Tim Couch too

(01:35:31):
forgot his name, but yeah, but the Steelers are definitely
better than the Browns.

Speaker 5 (01:35:38):
Well Man, Brown's out, what do you say? I mean,
they you are what they are, They are what they've
always been. I don't think they're ready to change that
just yet. You already see it with them having three coaches,
I mean, three quarterbacks in the room. I still don't
know why they got rid of Flea, like like, you
should have probably kept that guy, you know, I don't know.

(01:36:00):
I'm a little bit suspects.

Speaker 1 (01:36:02):
The only thing I'll say, Mike Tomlin's master over the
Browns is great nineteen and one and only reason the
only gaming lots of the playoff game. Keep it keep
it simple, simple, because I got.

Speaker 3 (01:36:13):
I know, understand that though, Mike, Mike tom you got
to realize this is, this goes beyond beating the Browns.
The guy has nine wins with nine wins with third
string quarterbacks, so you'll never to see that again.

Speaker 5 (01:36:25):
He is the.

Speaker 3 (01:36:26):
Ultimate ends next up, the ultimate, and and the thing is,
so it's obviously he would beat the Browns, but the
Browns by itself, it's like, could I mean, let's just
say you switch him over to the Browns for a second.
Could he do the same thing with him? No? And
it's as I love Mike Tom and I loved all that,
but you're never going to get a chance because they're

(01:36:48):
just a terrible organization up and down. I've read some
of their grades. They have a terrible they have a
terrible food thing over there, like in their cafeteria. They
have terrible training facilities, terrible everything. They're not a good
programs they need to get They need to tear it
all down. I'm not talking about the games nor the players.

(01:37:09):
They need to tear it all down to just get
a good way, better weight room, better food, better everything,
better rules, and you need to have all that stuff
that starts there before do you start winning.

Speaker 4 (01:37:21):
Candy Hey, the Steelers have been are forced to be
reckoned with in that over there. The Browns, Yeah, they
get an occasional win here and there, but they can't
sustain anything, you know, And to think that they've had
how many quarterbacks and we talked about this in the beginning,

(01:37:44):
they had how many quarterbacks on that roster and we're like, okay,
who's gonna be You know, there wasn't a real, real
clear one two, and then they start trading this one
away and this one away and this one.

Speaker 9 (01:37:55):
What are they doing? Are they what did they? I mean?
They are they trying to tank?

Speaker 4 (01:37:59):
Are they trying to develop the players that they have? Now,
like we talked about how the Packers have sat their
quarterbacks that they drafted. You know, Aaron Rodgers sat for
how many years under Brett Carter, Jordans sat, you know,
and now all of a sudden you had veterans, not
that they were really good veterans, but you had veterans

(01:38:22):
so that you could sit your people that you drafted
and know now you're gonna you trade those away and
you're gonna throw in your rookies. I just don't understand.
But that's an organization that I've never understood.

Speaker 1 (01:38:36):
That's okay. But what I do understand is we have
a Shanahan report from Tom Shanahan. Go ohud, give us
the latest, I mean, and thanks for hanging with us
a little bit longer. One thing I do want to
point out before I do that, there's a footnote to
the last week when we talked about Rick Betino. He
became the first coach ever to take six schools for
an NCAA tournament. What he did was say, John, some
talk about that Tommy before we go to Shanahan Report. Yeah,

(01:38:59):
sick to the uh Like that's for real, isn't that.

Speaker 7 (01:39:04):
Yeah, he's obviously a great coach. He's pretty unethical about
a lot of things. I can't believe he's rebuilt Saint
John's as quickly as he has.

Speaker 6 (01:39:12):
It's yeah, yeah, he's amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:39:17):
Okay, now we'll go to Shanahan Report. Put it out there,
and thanks again for hanging. It will be a little
bit longer time. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:39:22):
I went out to North Carolina basketball today.

Speaker 7 (01:39:25):
There was media availability with Hubert Davis, a coach before
they leave to play by U, and I wanted to
ask him about how North Carolina has maintained Dean Dean
Smith's legacy. You know, these guys playing for North Carolina,
the students on campus, you know, they weren't even born
when Dean Smith was done coaching, and then Dean went

(01:39:49):
into dimension, he was no longer a presence on campus.
But they've maintained the Dean Smith's legacy at North Carolina.
One of the reasons is Hubert Davis and and May
were talking about. I asked him about his Every single
coach on that staff, either Hubert David played for Dean Smith,

(01:40:10):
and the others either played for Dean Smith's successors, guth
Ridge or Roy Williams, and they've coached on the staff.
They're all linked to Dean Smith. And that might sound
like inbreeding, but as Hubert Davis said, we all have
different perspectives. I'm different than Dean Smith was, I'm different

(01:40:32):
than Coach Williams was, Coach Cuthrie was different from all
of us. And they're able to share all that with
their players and maintain that legacy. And then of course
everything I write about his history, and I compare that
to how Michigan State has egregiously let Deffie Doherty get
forgotten into history on his own campus.

Speaker 6 (01:40:56):
Not to mention Nashally so North cam the North Carolina way,
that's the way they do it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:04):
Oh so her comments to let you go, let everybody
know how they get hold of you and it once again,
I can't thank you enough for.

Speaker 6 (01:41:10):
Our website where you can find that story.

Speaker 7 (01:41:12):
Tom shann dot Report Shannyn just like the forty nine
ers coach Twitter Shanny.

Speaker 1 (01:41:19):
All right, Tom, thanks for saying well us I'll see
you next Tuesday night, right, my friend.

Speaker 5 (01:41:24):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
All right, Thanks Tommy, appreciate you. Have a great night.
Thank you for hanging all right, all right, all right,
so we're down to five of us. Marvin, some quick
thoughts about Patino and then we're gonna go ahead and
I've got topics for every one of you, just by
yourself so we can get everything in. So you're talking
real quickly about Patino.

Speaker 8 (01:41:42):
Yeah, yeah, quickly, great coach. I've been watching him since
I as a kid. I personally have the aulmost respect
for him as a competitor, and you know, he's one
of the best to ever do it, period.

Speaker 1 (01:41:53):
Okay, Marvin, a topic for yourself. Watch out for USC
running back Kim Miller at eighteen carries hunder fifteen yards
of town and thirty one first year went over Michigan.
Just give me her over a thoughtful kind of a prospect.
This guy is listen.

Speaker 8 (01:42:05):
This This is actually a walk on red shirt freshman
for the Trojans. He was he was offered scholarships at
smaller schools, but he was a local kid and wanted
to play for his hometown Trojans. He's a home run hitter.
He's a home run hitter. He's about six to one.
I'd probably give him like two fifteen, maybe two ten.
Nice nice build, really nice build, but breakaway speed man

(01:42:29):
not so much. Wiggle isn't going to make you miss
as much. Even though he does have some great highlights.
His big thing is he breaks long runs. That's what
he did against Michigan. In every other game we had
this year other than Illinois, this kid had a big run.
So great prospect, and he'll be starting for us in

(01:42:50):
two weeks when we go to Nebraska.

Speaker 1 (01:42:52):
Yeah. I got some more UFC stuff coming down the pipe, Marvin.
I just want to make sure we got this one
over to Jacob. I have a topic for you. Since
your brothers greaders Chicago area, this one just yours only. Okay.
The Chicago Fire will build a six hundred and fifty
million dollars soccer stadium at seventy eight in South Loop,
which will be privately funded by owner Joe Mesuto. Looks

(01:43:12):
like somebody beat Jerry Ryan Dwarfs in Chicago White not
for the punch, meaning he planned to build a new
stadium there, or you're talking about the Chicago Fire taking
it upon themselves to build a stadium in that area.

Speaker 3 (01:43:23):
Well, it's a you're brought up what Ryansdorf rhyins doors
nearing ninety years old, and it's like, this is a
younger guy. This is a younger guy right here. It's
he's taken it upon himself, putting the initiative. He's trying
to make pee and Chicago is being truthful. Chicago's struggling
in sports. They're struggling in sports right now. The White
Sox look have looked awful. They're trying to build their

(01:43:46):
way back. The Cubs had a playoff. This year's been
the first time. A feel a little bit. Bears. They're
trying to work their way. They're trying to work their way.
The Bulls are a perpetual thirty nine win team. Yah, yeah,
they're a potential thirty nine win team. And it's like,
I mean, it's just it just struggled. I mean, it's
just everything in the struggle. So the fire has a

(01:44:07):
chance to be able to get it out there. So
why not build and the private funds and doing all
that suff reprising me of Joe Robbin back and win,
you know what I mean. Nineteen ninety or something building
his own stadium with his own money. So that's always
going to get a good a good will with that fans,
which I'm not I usually don't care about the fans.
You're gonna hear this on the next part, but in

(01:44:27):
this case, I mean, there are good fans out there,
and you want the good will for that, and you
want to come to your stadium.

Speaker 1 (01:44:34):
I'm good, all right. I got a couple of nine
forts top of going for out there as well. First one,
Bill Gates says he's giving all of his two hundred
nearly all his two hundred billion fortunes Africa, Marvin, He's
given it to AFRAA good place to give it.

Speaker 8 (01:44:49):
A listen, it's it's it's a continent with people in need.
Without question, you could do a lot of good for
anybody in the world with that kind of money. I
think you can spread that out and impact all kinds
of people right here at home and obviously you know,
anywhere you want. But he it's his money, do what
you want with it. It's you're right. The fact that
he has a heart to give it is phenomenal. Yeah,

(01:45:12):
I mean I love the head that kind of stuff,
and uh yeah, kudos to him.

Speaker 5 (01:45:17):
Anybody else have any talks about this? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
they talked about that. And I think that, if I'm
not mistaken, the country he wanted to give it to
an Africa rejected the money because he was coming up
with some other conditions. He's got that thing where you know,
he's got all these vaccines and it was something else.

(01:45:38):
I forgot what it really was, but there were some conditions,
and I think Africa said we don't want that money.
And I don't know if that was if that was
a fake article or something, but I don't know. I
believe that's what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:45:48):
I am reliable sources. But if they don't want the money,
I'm sure he'll find other places to distribute that money.
No big deal. Take if you have anything.

Speaker 3 (01:45:56):
There's a lot of there's a lot of those African
if he picks it to another a lot of those
African nations that did not believe in that vaccine to
begin with. They're afraid of that, so they're gonna turn
it down too. But truthfully, for all the money that
he's worth a lot of it, and there's a lot
of course, a lot of it's cash, and you'll be
able to give off immedia, but a lot of speculation
because that's from it's what, it's assets, it's from yourm

(01:46:19):
it's it's whatever your real estate holdings are, it's all
that stuff. So how much I mean that basically goes
up and down day to day, so his worth would
be that. So how much truly is he worth?

Speaker 2 (01:46:31):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:46:31):
I mean as far as cash wise, they can give
away right now.

Speaker 5 (01:46:34):
But the way I'm sorry, the way he makes his money.
They said he can give all his money away and
he'll have it back in three years.

Speaker 3 (01:46:41):
Well I can believe that. I can believe that. But
you can do that with if he the cash that
he has. I'm talking about cash flow. No one has
two hundred billion a cash flow. That's what we're bringing up.
There's asset, there's there's assets, there's all that stuff like
that that you obviously he's on the markets. It's all
that thing. So once he passes away the money he has,

(01:47:02):
it's gonna be a pain to figure out what goes
because then how much it's really worth plenty, You're right,
it's not to say he's not broke. It's like he's
able to give away.

Speaker 5 (01:47:13):
More than enough.

Speaker 1 (01:47:14):
Yeah, so quick thoughts on this one sports topic that
we're gonna talk about, Sister Jane. Their fund funded well.

Speaker 4 (01:47:24):
He announced that the majority of the to the Foundations
two hundred billion pledge to be given away over twenty years,
will go to Africa to support health, education, and development initiatives.
The foundation's work includes funding programs for healthcare, disease prevention, nutrition, agriculture,
and gender equality. So, I mean they're trying to fight

(01:47:46):
a lot of different good you know, they're gonna support
water and sanitation, clean, clean water and sanitation. Kudos to him,
like I I'm glad that he's using his money for
good like that.

Speaker 3 (01:48:03):
I can say this, though, Candy, Oh say this real fast.
I can say this. A lot of that stuff there
with some of these countries and everything, the clean water,
the health, everything they're going to be for I can say.
I can say gender equality is going to be a
no to a lot of these countries. Unfortunate, absolutely, Okay,

(01:48:23):
final sports No.

Speaker 1 (01:48:25):
Not for the topic of the night. Walmart warns it
will raise prises because of pharisees of the higher costs
implemented by President Donald Trump and obviously Elon Munk Trump.
Shamy says will couse the recession in the second half
of this year. I'll make it roll quick, Okay, I
know this could be controversial, and I want to keep

(01:48:45):
it conservative and straightforward. Who are you believing on this?
Do you think that there will be a recession as
a results of these chairs? Marvin some tuts.

Speaker 8 (01:48:56):
Yes, absolutely, I do.

Speaker 1 (01:48:58):
Okay, you don't have to elaborate if you do find
you don't know. Yeah, no, I do.

Speaker 8 (01:49:03):
I think we're I think I think there's gonna be
a economic downturn. I think we're gonna be impacting negatively,
absolutely from the terrors.

Speaker 1 (01:49:11):
I'm going to get one hundred percent on this one too,
those terrors at Walmart. There's a recession and we shop
at Walmart, that's for sure. There's a lot of there's
a lot of validity does this report.

Speaker 5 (01:49:23):
And we're already in a recession, believe it or not.
People just aren't. Really, We've been in a recession for
quite a while, right, Jacob, you can't.

Speaker 3 (01:49:32):
The big thing is that I'm not disagreeing with either
of you guys. It's like the guy, regardless of anybody
likes him or does not, is exhausting. He's exhausting, and
you you can't tell if it's going to or not.
Because people thought there would be a huge almost the
depression by now because of what he chose. But every

(01:49:53):
single time somebody comes to the table and blah blah
blah blah, but he exhausts everybody and and he just
oh my god, just like O, he did it again.
But all it takes is one country, most likely China,
to say no, you know, they're not going to the
table that one hundred and fifty five percent the deal.

(01:50:13):
It's like if one hundred fifty five percent tariff goes
through that, knowing what comes from China, what comes through
all that, then yes, there will be a recession. If
China goes to the table. It's going It's just basically
a whole big poker game.

Speaker 1 (01:50:26):
All interesting times. When I see Walmart in there, I
get worried. Candy knows it.

Speaker 4 (01:50:32):
That's where we go, all right, Candy, So let's face it,
they have to if it costs more to import these
products that we're buying from other countries, and we were
putting tariffs on those, Walmart can't absorb them, nobody, I
mean they can only absorb them to so just so

(01:50:53):
such an extent. If you're gonna buy products that are
imported and there's tariffs, you should be paying extra for it.

Speaker 9 (01:51:02):
Because if you have the.

Speaker 4 (01:51:04):
Opportunity to buy American or buy imported, it's your choice.
You pick whether you're gonna pay the extra for the
imported or if you're gonna have American.

Speaker 1 (01:51:17):
Right this topic of wait for Jacob to get back
on appropriately so referent piece, Sister Jane makes it two
hundred and six years of age. Sister Jane, your legacy
is on mat by no other. Take up some quick
talks because then you get to go to Punder about
the show.

Speaker 14 (01:51:33):
God was going I was waiting for you. It does
wait for you on this one. You're you're pretty, you're
pretty durable. She did wonderful in her life.

Speaker 3 (01:51:44):
She didn't wonder and she had I mean, and plus
the big smile on her face, and she I mean
and she made so much of a difference to a
lot of people in life. And that's the perfect way
you can live. They I remember hearing it first from
Tim Tebow. There's a birth year and death and you
and other people think too, there's birth year and death
here in the dash. What do you do with the dash,
she did more than she could.

Speaker 1 (01:52:04):
You could say with the dash, well, well, you.

Speaker 5 (01:52:11):
Know, Jacob just said them outful.

Speaker 2 (01:52:12):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:52:13):
For all the work that I do trying to help people,
I hope to have people saying those same things about
me when my time comes, you know. So it's really
about the people that's here. Like I'm on social media
so much, I'm looking at these complete strangers who supposed
to be the enemy. But then I heard making jokes
to make me laugh, you know, and they're posting it
and they're going out their way, and I just like,

(01:52:35):
I that division that we have just around just even
in our country alone, It's just doesn't make sense to me, Like,
you know, we are here together and we should just
respect the love each other. That's what it should be.

Speaker 1 (01:52:49):
Yeah. Well she was loved one hundred and six sures
as we love nine million more Marvel turn over to you.

Speaker 8 (01:52:55):
Yeah, great energy, great great energy, great story, and you
really love seeing her at these games and sorry to
see her go. And but she definitely lived the life.

Speaker 1 (01:53:08):
Yeah. Yeah. Hannynny talks on sister Jean, what a great.

Speaker 4 (01:53:15):
Story, Like we kept hearing about how old she was
and how she kept supporting this team and you'd see her,
you know, on the sidelines and everything like that. It's
I mean, we all have a shelf life unfortunately, I
mean rest in peace. She did so so much good
in the years that she had here. I hope she's

(01:53:37):
enjoying her eternal resting place.

Speaker 3 (01:53:40):
I can say this part. I can say this part
real fast. It shows one of the things about is
I was saying something about they said she's not gonna
be able to come back to work and all that
kind of stuff like that. I knew her time was coming.

Speaker 5 (01:53:53):
When she did.

Speaker 1 (01:53:54):
She worked to the end. Yeah, I agree with you.
I totally agree, and I think she couldn't come back then.
It was since the longest living relative I ever had,
that I knew. But my aunt Mary must have made
a daughter of three resident peace at Mary must as
well as you, sister Jane. All right, Jacob, you got
about a minute and a half or two minutes of
the rebundit pund At least I got an end, and
then we'll wrap this puffy up creaks out by everybody

(01:54:15):
that participated, Megan, Tommy and of course Jacob, Kennedy and
Marvin and well. Great to have everybody on as well.
All right, jacobun of fund It.

Speaker 3 (01:54:23):
Well will you will? You're getting to meet me for
the first time. Marvin already knows this. Uh, this is
that that has to do. It's the usual thing I
have to say with fans. I hate fans. I have
a huge amount of things I say about fans all
the time. Marvin already knows. But the but here's my
thing here, I'm here being here in Atlanta right now.

(01:54:43):
They're talking about Michael Pennix and he may not place Sunday.
His knees, an issue which I brought up last year
when they draft him in the first place. Guys had
two knee surgeris in college. But they did the drafting anyway,
even when they got Kirk Cousins and in the midst
of a thing, when they're seven seven or six, yeah,
six and six, what did they do? Seven to seven?

Speaker 8 (01:55:06):
Thank you?

Speaker 3 (01:55:07):
They myself? What did they do? The fans and the
media teamed up to try to make Kirk a pariah
and the Pendix a hero in the middle of a
division race. Mind you, mind you. The defense was horrible, Jimmy,
the Lake's defense was miserable, and the and then they

(01:55:28):
even lost to a horrible Carolina team at the very
end of the year, which had shows that that would
have had all of that. They went one and two
at the end, which that would have happened with Kirk
no different. If they would have won, it would have
been with Kirk no different all that kind of stuff.
But it was a media and fan thing to be
able to do that. So they can go get him
to Pennix to play what do we have right now?

(01:55:51):
Pennix is hurt all of a sudden.

Speaker 1 (01:55:54):
They love them.

Speaker 3 (01:55:55):
They want to see Kirko again, Kirko chains, they want
to see Coles. They want to see Cole's cash. Here's
the thing. If Cole's cash wasn't as classy as he is,
after how he was treated and how the media pulled
on it and all that stunt that these people pulled,
we would be seeing East and Stick this week.

Speaker 1 (01:56:17):
Hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:56:18):
This is what fans do not understand. They're doing the now.
They always talk about all we want to win and
we want to have a dynasty. Their thought processes are
for one year all the time. Their thought processes are
like a fantasy team. Get rid of this guy. I'm
gonna put this guy here. We're gonna do this match up.
Blah blah, blah blah. They don't know anything. And I

(01:56:40):
brought this part up before. It's like Pendix was that
Pendix was fine as a pick, but those knees to
blow out. He had two surgeries in college. Now he's
having trouble again. But they don't think about this stuff
when they're them. All they're thinking about is they're all
the merch they can get and all the tailgates and

(01:57:01):
all that stuff and share all their things. And it's like, meanwhile, meanwhile,
it's like they're the ones that tried to get rid
of and make Kirk a pariah. Well great, and then
I'll say and I'll say this real fast. Now go,
I keep saying this. I'll say it all the time.

(01:57:22):
Thirty two teams quit listening to fans. We would have
a more competitive league.

Speaker 1 (01:57:28):
The fanatic all right, can't you put his up thing
up real quick? And you got well, and we'll wrap
up real quick. All right. Here you go go fund
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Speaker 9 (01:58:33):
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Speaker 1 (01:58:34):
All right, Marvin, quick, go ahead, quick, Jacob, as quick
as you can. We'll have about forty five seconds.

Speaker 8 (01:58:40):
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Speaker 1 (01:58:59):
Gat up my run, Jacob, you got twenty of Jacob Christner.

Speaker 3 (01:59:04):
Jacob Christner on Facebook. Jacob Christner underscore on on I
mean the Sideline one Sports for TikTok. Jacob Chrisler underscore
for Instagram. I am also on Sideline Sports. I am
also guested on a lot of different shows, and then
once in a blue moon I even do some.

Speaker 1 (01:59:20):
Acting beautiful and I'll get to another acting show with
Rachel Galliln soon. I'm working at it. Well, person comes
on with us. Well you've got about five seconds, all right,
you can.

Speaker 5 (01:59:30):
Find me really easy, William person. Everybody's a person or
one man with a chamber. You can find me. If
your loved ones are struggling being out of character, they've
been around concussion based stuff, find me.

Speaker 1 (01:59:43):
I'll help you. I help you work through it. I
will see next one day. Fort to change take for
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