October 16, 2025 • 48 mins
Scott interviews Will Person, a former Olympic Bobsled Team Member talking about CTE. #rubberball #brain #sledding #competition #suicide #collegefootball #pavlejovanovic #cte #princealbert #alwhiting #nhl #chrissimon #death #symptons #memoryloss #hearingissues #headaches #anxiety #paranoia #braindisease #newyorkislanders #headtrauma #adreneline #excitement #exhilerations #concussion #rollercoaster #shoulder #helmet #flesh #ice #noise #camerondiaz #gforce #bobsled #skydiving #crash #writer #covid #teamusa #mentalheralth #nfl #guilt #diabetes #caffeine #dailyplanner #christmas #coffee #nightstand #bed #bedroom #cloudy #redbull #concussion #joenamath #blood #gay #paramedics #scrambledeggs #hardboiledegg #microwave #track #mesi #kevinknox #waterboy #grilledcheesesandwich #turkey #thanksgiving #misdiagnosis #depression #hockey #kennyalbert #edokzley #nhl #detroitredwings #floridapanthers #kill #dimentia #lionking #detroitlions
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Williams.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Good evening, everybody, welcome to another edition of let It's
my name is Scott Morgan, Rock Motor City, man Mouth,
get ready to go here. But also just won't let
everybody know that the Sports Exchange will definitely be at
around nine o'clock m MES at times, so we have
a doubleheader. We'll promote that on social media after we
get there with this show. But meanwhile, glad to have
(00:43):
Jennifer horse pull back in the broadcast.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Thank you, it's a pleasure to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
And of course, well Parson a nine year team who
was a Bob fletter, great job, well, thank you, Glad
to be here, appreciate. And of course Kandy Imblein gonna
be joining these shows now full time, and I know
she's always had some great questions and me'll implement where
I need to. The whole idea is you need to
get the message above CTE out there, and that's what
(01:12):
our plan is to do. But that said, we're going
to begin with a reference called the rubber ball reference
or the brain feels like in sledding competition. I'm gonna
ask both for some details. What it's like is you're
doing this competition, what does a brain feel like I
know you've talked about the rubber ball. The he's elaborate.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Well, you know what, there's two different parts of that.
Like the truth is when you have so much adrenaline
going and think about it, we pulling. Now, I know
we're pulling like eighty four point five g's, but you
also going ninety miles an hour into that.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
So it's just it's so exhilarating.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
You really don't like, I know, we talk about the
rubber ball, we talk about the slidhead, but when you're
in it, you don't feel any of that. You just
excite me. It's just like being on a road of coaster,
but now take that roller coaster and then you multiply
that by like fifty or sixty. Uh, that's the best
way acting. It's so exhilarating, Like you can't feel I
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never feel damage, brain damage going down that track unless
I crashed or had a concussion or or the migraine
or something like that. But other than that, like that
ruber ball, think I'm not too sure about, but less yeah,
go ahead, referring to that thing where we like bouncing
off the side of the sled, like, yeah, that's one
(02:32):
thing we do called I can see that being called
the rubber ball, but that's really g forces just you.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Know, and then when the when the ride ends, then
what well, when.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
The ride ends, so I got some people walking through
here right, well, when the ride is like it just
depends on where we are. But most of the time,
you're just so grateful you got through that down that
track without crashing. That's number one. Like, especially after you
get that first, like you for that. The next ten
times you' getting a slave you you're paranoid. It's like
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a little bit of you just you concern and like
everything that feels a little bit off, You're like, oh
did we crash at because thing with the crashing, you
never know you crashed until your shoulder starts to heat
up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
And so there's two parts that can touch the ice.
That is this is where it gets tricky at like
h if you like when you first roll over on
our side, right, so you know that sound of fingernails
on the chaluk board like this multipply that by twenty
or thirty that's the sound of your helmet scraping the ice.
Now you get tired of that noise, so you want
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to get it off. The get off the ice, and
you get it off. So now onlything left to touch
the ice is your shoulder. So any piece of flesh
that touches the ice is gonna burn off, like to
the bone, like it's gone. And so now you you
you compromise that. What are you gonna do?
Speaker 4 (03:54):
You're gonna sacrifice that fingerails in the chruk boarder?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Are you gonna?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
You know? So it's kind of like you're doing this
you just as long as you can take that noise. Yeah,
but that that's oh my god, I'm sorry I'm rambling
on here but giving me flashbacks. But yeah, that's really yeah,
that's really the uh, the biggest I'm sorry, give another question,
give another question.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Well, OK, one of the things like when you when
you end, like you talked about like one of the
things that you talked about last week, right was Cameron
Diaz and when she finished the ride and she was like, whoa, yeah,
talk about when the ride ends. Right, So you've got
the adrenaline going, which is gonna be you know, a
lot anyway, but then you've had that constant baby shaking
(04:38):
syndrome going on in your head. So talk about when
the ride ends successfully, not when you crash, but when
the ride ends successfully, what's going on?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Well, for a person like me, I was numb. I
got numb to the G forces and the track, so
I didn't feel anything right. But if we took people
down that track, like like a Cameron Diaz, people like that,
different people like if you're not exposed to it, Like,
I can't explain to you what a G force feels
like because there's only two places you're gonna get them
(05:07):
on this planet, like we get them. That's in the
bops led and then the F fifteen and F sixteen
fighter jets. So like when you first time you feel it,
you're really trying to figure out what the heck just
happened to you because it's not something you just can't
get it from anywhere else. If that kind of makes sense.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, we need to describe like skydiving. You know, it's
a skydives, so we would describe it.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
Like describing the feeling is like describing salt if you
don't know what salty tastes, Like, how can you dribe salt?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Right?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
So it's something you have to experience.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I love how you put that, Like, yeah, that's that's
really the truth. Like you, Just like people, I've been
interviewed a thousand times and all the reporters always ask
me what's it feel like going down that track? And
I try to just explain you just can't come up
with the words. Also, I think that might be the
reason why most people would CTE and this kind of stuff.
(06:03):
They can never explain their symptoms either because there's a
there's a connector somewhere.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah, sorry, ken'dy get anything you want to add to
the robber bowl? Analogy will continue on, But no, I mean.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
I guess one of my questions would be is, obviously
you don't like to crash, and you know you were
in the Olympics, But my question is is you train
how much before that? Like how many times did you crash?
And when you were young, when you were first learning
how to be on a bob sled, were you crashing
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a lot there too, or tell me a little bit
about training like that.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Well, for me, I was in my third year before
I having my second or third before I had my
first crash. I'll guarantee you if I had that first
crash in that first year, I probably would have never
come back.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
You started young though, right, how old were you?
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I think it was around twenty eight when I started,
so I wasn't quite young.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I was at the end of my track career, but
I wasn't I wasn't spring Chicken either, Okay, okay, yeah, So.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
You are a track star and then you got introduced
to Bob Sledding.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Well, I don't have any Olympic track middle so I
can't say track star. But yeah, you know I wasn't
one too bad though, I wasn't bad. Yeah, okay, well,
let's go. Let's continue on. Obviously, we talked about suicides
in twenty nineteen. Your teammate Povele Jofanovic committed suicide on
May eleventh, twenty twenty, at the age of forty three.
(07:34):
He called William and couldn't understand Paully Poveley and obviously
got frustrated because William couldn't understand the words that were jumbled.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I'm just paraphrasing what we have here. Two weeks later
it was over William. Obviously, it took took it personally,
and there were three more other suicides that were positive
with CT. Let's elaborate what happened with pove Jovanovic. What's
the story. I'll right you talk about the story and
we'll continue on. That's your story. I'm gonna leave you.
Sometimes I let people ride soul on these, Janet, I
(08:06):
think this is the time for let William talk about it.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Well, you know, the story with probably is the truth is,
like Papuly was a unique guy, and he was a
you know, when we were at teammates, we actually weren't
even the best of friends. We were acquaintances. We didn't
you know, we were social with each other, we had
we'd have any problems or anything, but you know, we
just weren't. We didn't have a bond, you know. But
when I left tam Usa, like I moved back to
(08:34):
la and I started writing. Probably wanted to be a writer,
and so he started calling me.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
With these.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Like I'm really just now putting this together recently, Like
this was prior to COVID, And so he was calling
me with these creative stories, right, and I thought it
was creative writing, you know, But now I'm just now
realizing his mind had already slipped, because the very last
time he called me, he would speak in Gibberish. It
was either gibbish or some kind of old world language.
(09:04):
I heard he had started doing that with his brother
as well, and so I couldn't understand him at all,
Like I was really digging. And at that time, guys,
I owned a treatment facility before I joined tm USA,
and I managed many of them after tm USA, and
so I told myself, I got to help this guy.
I gotta help him. I have to help him. And
the truth is I didn't do anything to help him
(09:25):
at all, like I other than think about it.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
And then a few weeks went by.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I don't know how long it really was, to be honest,
but next thing I know, I get the word back
that he went to his family's factory and he hung himself.
And yeah, the guilt, man, it just got me because
mental health is my background. And I told myself I
had to help this guy, and I didn't do anything
to help him, and I was really really ashamed and
embarrassed about it. And that's actually the reason that I filed.
(09:52):
The one reason I filed the class action is because
I just saw it happening to so many people and
nobody's not talking about it. To the athletes, we're all
seeing the same thing. Something's wrong, but we can't put
it into words. We don't know what this feeling is.
We couldn't nobody could connect the dots right, And so
eventually I got the word that Pabaly was in stage
(10:13):
four of CTE Wow. And according to what I was
told from from the Corners report, they said they had
not even an NFL brain had looked this bad and
it was pretty rough. Yeah, And so like I didn't
forget myself for a while until I realized he was
in stage four, so I couldn't really help him. And
at that time, the truth is, like I was residing
(10:34):
on the floor of my own apartment at the time,
like I was struggling. I didn't even know how bad
off I was, you know, And the truth was here,
I am trying to say, Paba, but the truth is,
he really saved my life, and like I just really
put that together in the last month.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
I had no idea.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
I was still thinking like I failed and I failed him,
But no, he came to save my life. That's probably
what this story really was. But at the time when
I when it first happened, you couldn't tell me that.
I was like, no, I failed this guy, you know.
So but yeah, Pablo he was a really good guy man,
and it's you know, great family, but in a great athlete.
(11:11):
But everybody loved this guy. Like the people who work
in office now who really have decided not to help
the athletes were his best friends. That's the disturbing part.
They were like like I wasn't their buddies, Like I
wasn't their best friend. He was their best friends. And
they turned it back on him, and I'm just like, wow,
how did this? Who does this?
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Who does this?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (11:35):
And you had other teammates that some were successful in
their attempt at suicide and others failed. So can you
talk about the team overall in what was going on?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Well? I found out, like I knew one of my
one teammates, he committed suicide and after the two thousand
and two win Olympics, he was just gone. He actually
shot himself in the chest. They did not check his brain.
This was prior to CT so I didn't were thinking
about checking brains at that time. But he was an
older guy, he was probably in his forties or so,
and you know, he wasn't a national team athlete, so
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no one really gave it the attention they should have
given it. They were just oh, he died. All that's
too bad. We're sorry he did. But nobody looked into it,
you know. But I know about I found out about
four suicides, but I believe there's more because so many
people have reached out to me said they attempted. I attempted,
I attempted, And I'm just blown away about all the
(12:33):
suicide attempts. Nobody's really helping people. They're not even even
connecting the dots and putting this thing together. But I
know there's a lot more. So I'm sure there's more
suicides out there that we just don't know about. Somebody
knows though, But I also know they're also trying to
keep it a secret. They're doing their best to sweep
it under the carpet. So but they messed up. I'm
(12:56):
the one guy like I was dying, like when I
fold this case. So I never ask them for money
for myself. I never asked anything for myself. It was
all about take care of my guys because I knew
my days were numbered. I thought I will be deceased
before the end of the court case, you know. And
I told them to warn that new generation before they
start the sports, so they still fight me on both
of those things. And as Jennifer can tell you, the
(13:17):
last three times I was in court, I'm standing by
myself against all these big.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
High powered lawyers and it's just me up here like this.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
With CTE trying to you know, talk to the judge
and make sense of this thing and still get everybody help.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah, okay, well we're gonna do now what we're going
to do now, I'll if you have one other thing,
can you one out? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (13:38):
I wanted I wanted to go a little bit into
the symptoms because William, you were saying, like when Paveley
called you, you were on the floor.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Tell about being on the floor.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
What were what was going on in your life in
your mental capacity when Pavely called you?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Oh man, that is a great question for me. Like
for many years I had this random day of cloudiness
that will show up. It was random.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
They was so random.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
So I thought it was diabetes because like, I drink
some caffeine, then I'm okay, I can get out the
bed at least. But those random days of cloudness turned
into random days of clarity, and it was such a
slow progression. When it hit me, I didn't even I
never saw it coming. So eventually I got to the
point where every day when I woke up, I knew
(14:21):
I didn't know what the real day was, and I
know I didn't know what really month we were really in.
So I had this little daily planner. I would pick
it up and then I look at it. Okay, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday,
or whatever the day is. Now I got to figure
out what month we really in. My brain was stuck
in the loop. It's telling me it's either January or August.
Always January August. And I don't know why those same
(14:42):
two months. But every day I woke up, I thought
it was that I don't care if it's Christmas. I
can see the Christmas tree in the living room, but
it's still January or it's August. But eventually I figured
that out, right, And so what I did. I put
these whiteboards all over my apartments, right, And so my
first routine was figuring out the day in the time.
(15:04):
But before that, every night, before I went to bed,
I grabbed this. I took a thermis of coffee or
bottle of Coca cola, and I put on my nightstand.
And if I didn't have it, I couldn't get out
of the bed before three o'clock, and I have dis
messed up the whole day, which mean and I'm gonna
miss work, any doctor's appointments, just any I'm gonna miss everything.
And the world was just flying by me. I have
(15:27):
no idea how long got laid like that, and it
sat like that, and then it got even worse.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
It got so much worse that eventually I took that.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
I took the bed out the bedroom and put it
in my living room because now if I need to crawl,
I can crawl to that bathroom, I can get to
the kitchen, I can get to that front door, I
can see it all. Apartments in California are very expensive
and you don't get a lot of space, so you
get to see everything at once. Yeah, yeah, that extra
that bedroom was Actually I didn't even need that. I
might as well have been in the studio because I
(15:57):
didn't even go in there. Yeah. Yeah. It's such a
brutal and progressive, and it's slow, and the sneak up
on you so quick you you just don't see it coming,
and by the time is there, it's over. It's too late.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
And you thought you were having different kinds of health
care issues. What did you think you were having?
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Yeah, I thought it was diabetes, because well I was.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
I was cloudy, I was confused, I didn't have any energy,
and they wereked, like I said, random days. It was
so random. So I drink a little bit of caffeine
and I gave me energy to get up. Now I'm
still cloudy, but at least I'm out of that bed.
And so if you dealing with anybody who's dealing with
concussion issues, are they'll all telling the same thing. They're
(16:42):
now drinking Red Bulls, Marshall drinks and caffeine. That's our
first that's your first self medication. I realized, Like I
remember one point, I was so proud. I was like,
I was like, just like I got I didn't medicaire,
I didn't do any of that stuff. And I start thinking, well,
how'd you get out the bed every day?
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yeah, I use caffeine. Yeah. So yeah, that's just it.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
I was putting all these little tricks in and they
were saving them out butt, but I was really digging
a hole deeper because I was fixing these issues until
the next one showed up. But I was never getting
help for the first issue.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah, great, stop poring. Well let's go. Okay, what we're
gonna do this, It's time for our first station break.
Then when we come back, we're gonna talk about the
people that you mentored. And while you're doing that station
break afterwards, Candy can put their gofund me up and
then we'll talk about it later. So we'll do it
twice throughout the show. Well, will a good station break. First,
we'll go back to the mentor. Then we have a
hockey topic and Candy you'll have her own takeaways.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
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up on the bottom here. That is the go fundme
for Will Will you wanted to talk a little bit
about the GoFundMe page and what it's for.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Yeah, I have a lot of people ask me, you know,
like how did you get better?
Speaker 3 (19:02):
What happened? And I actually what happened is Joe Namath. Guys,
please check his story. He there's videos he put out.
He said he used hyperbarack oxygen to reverse the symptoms.
And so I tried it, you know, and I was
in that chamber for one hour the first time I
tried it, and it turned the lights back on. Now,
just so you know, not everybody gets those that quick relief.
(19:22):
Some people need that thirty days of treatment. But for
some of us, we get immediate relief because we finally
getting blood back to all the damaged areas. And yeah,
just it woke me up and it changed my life.
So I really just want to provide the same service
that was provided for me. And I was blessed. I
was able to do the first free treatments for free,
like nobody. They didn't charge me. But after those first
(19:44):
two treatments and I knew it was working. I knew
I needed its machine and it was so expensive, and
so right now, I really just really want to provide it,
provide the service, let the athletes and our veterans come
through because our veterans are struggling too, and just provide
the treatment. It's really no no tricks to this thing.
There's no there's no hidden agendas. We just want to
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save lives. Know they saved me, and I just want
to pass it on.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Yeah, how do you plan on uh on providing the
therapies to people through the go fundme?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Well, the go fundme is is really it's really just
for the equipment, Like I'm gonna I'm going to probably
donate the real estate myself. I'll find the place we're
gonna house out of uh. And then we just need
the money to get the equipment so that we can't
provide the treatment. We also need special doctors to come along.
We're not just gonna be out here, uh, you know,
(20:38):
shooting in the dark. We don't want to We're not
gonna harm anybody, but we want to provide the same
things that were provided for me. And like I can
really open today if I really chose to do it.
But then I'll have to take out a loan, which
I mean i'm't have to make money doing this, which
means I'm gonna have to charge, and I don't want
to charge. It's too expensive and most people won't go
get the treatment if it's too expensive. If you know
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you making life decisions, well, I'm gonna pay for this
treatment to help myself, or I'm gonna pay rent. You
know you're gonna probably pay your rent, because I know
I did. I went through all these same steps, and
I just don't want anybody going through the same thing
I went through.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Well, wht me get interjected? Let me interject here. You
mentioned Joe Nama. So you know I'm gonna do for
our audience, I'm gonna talk about a future Joe name
of topic that has nothing to do with that, So
that'll be coming up in future episode. I think this
is one that will definitely baffle a lot of people.
So while you guys are talking part about show, I
like you guys just talking. All I gotta do is
(21:36):
just absorb and learn. So that's great stuff. All right,
So that's that great story. Let's talk about the people that, well,
you mentored the two that we have on our listened
their Prince Albert and then el Wdding. Start with Prince.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Well, actual prince helped, don't I'd ben't really mentor him,
but he was a bobsleer driver, and uh my story,
I got a prince out the story that I it's
kind of it's a little bizarre.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
I'm gonna give it to you.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
I live in LA I have a lot of friends
who are gay, so you know, I grew up, I
had a gay cousins. You know, it's just part of life,
you know, not a big deal. So I had my
first crash. She was doing it was a Satan rich
worke up and when I got off the track, degraded
to walk towards where the paramedics were. Actually they grabbed me.
(22:22):
They actually pyramates came and grabbed me, and I was like,
why you touched me with these strangers, like, you know.
So they take me back to this little area. I'm
sitting there. Prince Albert is standing there with Ana Konakva
and Michael Schumacher. Right, so yeah, Prince Albert turns and
wings at me, right.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
You said, Michael Schumacher, Right, yeah, Michael Schumacher. Well you
know what, you give me an idea? I got a
Michael Schumacher topic done too. Keep going.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
That guy has a huge fan club man. They would
travel deep.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Wow, you think the NBA players over here, you never
seen anything like this guy's aura.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
So anyway, I'm sitting there, I'm on the paramagics.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
They were checking me for concussion, and Prince Abert walks
by him and he stops and he winks at me. Right,
I was like, oh my god, Prince Irber was in
love with me. I didn't even know. I had to
stop isolating with him because I don't want to lead
him on or anything like that. You know. That's but
as yours went on, and I'm thinking back about all
(23:22):
some of these weird stories I had over time, I'm
realizing I was concussed.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
He was not in love with me.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
But when your brain is gone, when you're not thinking clearly,
you just see what you see what you see. In
In fact, there was even some rumors out over the
media saying like, and we think Prince Harbersgate is even
have children.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
I was like, I knew it.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
I knew it.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
I knew it.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
But the truth is it took for me to get
help and treatment before I could even.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Process what really happened.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Like he was in love.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
What he's winking at me? Because in Europe that's what
they do. They wink.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
They don't say, you know, it's no, I can't even
do that wink they do. They got it on like
locked out, they got I gotta like use my cheekbone
to get that, you know. But no, he just threw
that wink out so easy. I was like, oh my.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
God, yeah so that, yeah, that happened.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
That happened. So I'm sorry, Prince Albert. I know you're
not in love with me. My brain was messed up,
you know. But Prince Albert really nice I.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Thought everyone was in love with you.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
I mean, I wish, I wish, you know, when Prince
Albert he retired and O two because he crashed. When
of us saw that game to crash, and we were
on tour at the next one, we were.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
In, uh we weren't Italy.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
We're in courteena Italy racing and we were waiting in
the long line just to get some water out of
the water hydrant. And we said, Albert, we thought you'd retired.
He was like, no, man, you know, you guys the
only ones that treat me like crap. You know, That's
why I came back. And then one of the guys said, yeah,
that's take your ass to the back of his line,
you know, stop trying to jump. So that's kind of
(24:53):
how everybody treated me like a regular person. It wasn't
like a royalty or you know, I don't even think
like I was. I probably didn't even understand who that
guy really really was at the time. But yeah, but
many years with this guy, nice guy.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Okay, yeah, well I have to add this now. You
got me thinking, Okay, all the stuff that you're telling
me remind me of scrambled eggs. You know. It really is,
I mean your brains scrambled eggs?
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Yeah, all right. So here I'm going to lead to
another thing that happened today, fresh off the press. I'm
not proud of it because my lit old Candy has
to clean the microwave because of what I just did today.
That's why I say the heck out of the kitchen.
I thought I would warm up a hard boiled egg
and did it in a microwave. Well guess what, Uh
it didn't work out. That's why you keep me out
of the kitchen. People keep me out of the kitchen.
(25:43):
Oh well, hey, listen, I've done worse things than that,
like cook a grilled cheese sandwich in a microwave for
four minutes and near I was gonna broke a triple
paying window and broiled the turkey on Thanksgiving. But that's
beside the point, up Kansas City. But this poor hard
boiled egg, there was only about a quarter that left
of candy. I mean hard boiled agd have three in
(26:05):
a quarter. So now she poured candy has to clean
up the microwave. Boyl you do a good job. You
do it right, Okay, So that's my hard boiled egg story.
For all you people looking to do anything with a
hard boiled egg, don't put my microwave or you have
an mess called mass all right, well, all right, so
I just put that out there, fresh out the fresh
out of the kitchen. Yours truly proves that you could
(26:28):
do a lot of work on the air, but stay
out of our kitchen, all right. So with that said,
the time to go to Al Whiting, because I know
when candy gets old with that microwave, it'll feel like
waiting and the way where it will be called clean,
all right, continue.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
On, all right, Al White, And he's a buddy of mine.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Like when I was in I was still running track,
so like I was a really fast forty meter guy,
forty your guy, right, So I had a lot of
NFL guys who.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Came to train with me.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
So I had, like you, Kevin Knox, you might know
his son who plays for He's what Golden State last year?
Speaker 4 (27:03):
He was the first round draft pick out of Kentucky.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I had Al Whiting, which if you ever seen that
movie water Boy, he's the guy who gets poked in
the eyes, you know, so he's really most people know
him from that scene. And so with Al he wanted.
He was telling me about these football movies. Fast forward,
I was doing football movies with him. So when I
got to Sundance years later, Pat goes on, I'm doing
(27:28):
a celebrity Bob sledg club where I take celebrities down
the Bob Sled track. So I give him a ride
down that track. And Al is a talker. He loves
to talk, you know, you non stop you. He's a
good guy, don't get me wrong. And so he goes
down that track, he gets out of that sled. I
don't think he talked to me about fifteen minutes. He
was just kind of silent, you know, he gave me
(27:49):
that matter off. It was the same day. Cameron Dills
went down the track the same day, but he just
I don't think he enjoyed it too much either. Yeah,
most people say the same thing, you know, you know,
like roller coasters, you it's fun, Bob's lit. Yeah, and
you fight it for your life the whole time. So
but you know, I kind of expected it, you know,
most time I will take some of my buddies down.
(28:11):
There were celebrities and stuff like, and I was just waiting,
just waiting for the look on their face.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Because I knew what it was gonna be already. I
already knew.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yeah, great stuff. I'll tell you. I like when you
have these isolated things. All right, now, we talked about
earlier the NHL. We're going to do a show on
this probably one day, but we're gonna make reference tonight
and then when we get to this tegment, Candy, we'll
have her takeaways and wrap up and then we'll go
back to the yell fund me. Let see you know.
The Sports Exchange will be at nine o'clock PM for time.
(28:42):
Got a great crew there, Marvin Powell the Third toward
drink Corn myself will be on there, Candy and Tom
Oh no not Tommy tonight, right, Candy, who do we have?
George Drake Corn, we have Marvin Powell the Third, You.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
And I Yeah, that might be it.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
We have four or five people I don't know, but whatever, Yeah, no,
normally Jacob Christmas on. It will be a great show,
will be definitely loaded, for sure, lots of great so
to talk about, primarily basketball to night walls football. All right, Well,
with that said, let's continue on beck. Former NHL player
Chris Simon has been diagnosed with state three CTE. The
(29:22):
Simon family issued a statement and shared that before his
death by suicide last year, that Simon was dealing with
a number of serious issues, including memory loss, hearing issues,
daily headaches, anxiety, paranoia, and impulsive behavior. Simon, known for
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his toughness on the ice over a career that's spanned
more than seven hundred games in the NHL, becomes one
of the most high profile hockey players linked to the
degenerative disease, which we all known has had trauma TTE.
He played for New York Islanders. Okay, well, we've talked
(30:05):
about hockey being a sport they definitely subjected. Take it
from there, Chris Simon. Simon says that you're turned to talk.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Well, man, man, I'm glad you brought that stuff up.
Like I think I knew about him.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
I think I remember seeing him on TV, uh when
he when he passed, or I think that was another
hockey player. I might have been mixing it too up.
But like every symptom you just yeah, every symptom you
just mentioned, like I had them all. Like everything you
just mentioned, like I went through that. And that's why
my crowdfund is what I'm doing is so important. Like, man,
I promise you, Joe Name. He didn't just save my life, man,
(30:42):
he gave me life back, you know. And so there
are people, most of us, we don't know that there's help.
Like you can search the internet, you can go you
can go to your doctors. They're gonna tell you the
same thing. There's nothing. There's nothing, there's nothing. And so
this is the only thing that's it's saving lives. Like
I'm not the only one. Guys like Joe Name has
(31:04):
passed to me. There's other people I've referred out. You
can live with this thing and it can turn some
things around. You just have to do the work. And
really the work you're doing. You're just gonna get this
thing and you're gonna taking that. That's the work. There
is no more to it than that. It's so simple,
and the fact that people aren't finding it's just so disturbing.
Like I'm gonna keep talking until I can't talk any longer.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Yeah, I think, yeah, And I think that it's the
threat of suicide is really why it's so important to
start talking about this and getting those symptoms out there,
because they're getting misdiagnosed as PTSD, bipolar, you're just angry
you have these issues. They're getting written off as anything
(31:51):
but brain injuries, and no one's talking about brain injuries
and how common they are. Not everyone has CTE, but
a lot of people are having those symptoms, and everyone
with CTE seems to have those exact symptoms. And I
think that's what's so vital about what William is doing
is in getting out there. And you know, thank you
(32:13):
Scott and Candy for hosting on your show. It just
helps spread the word because that's really what's vital.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
By the way, a question for you guys. I know
we kind of keep a format going. Did we talk
about Kanye.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
West last time?
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Yet?
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Did we talk about what? No?
Speaker 4 (32:29):
What did we mention Kanye West?
Speaker 2 (32:31):
No? We will know her time too, not tonight.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Okay, Well, I'm just saying what she said. We really
get to it's missed so many misdiagnoses with this thing.
That's what we really have to hit on. Yeah, it's misdiagnosis.
And you know, people, if you don't understand what you're
dealing with and you you kind of stuck because you're
not getting a treatment. So that's that's why I think
it's so important. Guys, the research is out there. You
just gotta find the.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
People you're gonna talk about diagnosis, Candy, I'll tell you
a story when I got misdiagnosed for Parkinson's disease. So
you know what we'll end up doing is now that
you've brought it up, I mentioned that as a future topic.
In fact, actually we probably have a few of them
right now, probably for next week now I think about it,
we'll talk about misdiagnosis on any disease die. So you guys,
(33:17):
what you guys just did is you just created the
next week's show between Michael Schumacher Joe Mackert, we won't
even need any mentors. I think we'll just follow this
format next week, can talk about all three of them
and keep with hyperbar Camber after we do the Veterans
Day thing. Great stuff. I already have next week's show
set up because you guys did this diagnosis there you
(33:38):
go have be a preview of next week's show here
on the network. So with that said, anything else you
want to add about the NHL player, Chris Simon says,
say what you want, because you have one shot to
do it. John, you can incorporate Candy. You can't as well.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Man, Just I feel bad for his family, you know,
just so not mytes to the family, Like I mean,
I know this has been a while, but when you
see your family members start to go down that rabbit
hole and they're not getting better and they would have
taken our life, it's like they have to live with
those memories, you know, all those great things that he
ever did over his career. I grantee you, they're not looking.
They can't even see that right now, right, So, yeah,
(34:15):
apologies to the family.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
And I'm sure that to a certain extent they're they're
dealing with guilt because they didn't recognize all these symptoms
and now that see none that we're coming out with
what the symptoms are of CTE and they're learning more
and more, they're like, oh my gosh, I should have
I should have recognized this sooner. And the guilt that
they couldn't help or they didn't recognize to be able
(34:40):
to help it would cause a lot of depression, I think,
as you know, as a trickle down effect.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
Yeah, the same guilt William felt over Pavle right front
of it, right like it's not yours, you don't need
to own it. But you do because your heart, you know,
your heart's in it, like William's heart was in it
and trying to help pably not even realizing his own
his own struggles. And I think I think it's important
(35:08):
to talk about, you know, hockey overall, Right, it's not
just professionals that end up with CTE. I mean, and
actually I don't know which week you want to talk
about it, Scott, but that that's a segue into the
shooter from you know, he was targeting the NHL or
the NFL headquarters and he was just a high school
(35:31):
he was he only played football in high school.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, actually we're probably gonna wait on that now that
we've talked about these three. So that's why as we
talk about things and why this is such a continuous topic,
there's so many different layers to go. Because Joe Navis
is a very interesting person to talk about, Michael Schumacher,
I mean right there. So you know, that's why I
think it's just pretty intriguing anytime you associate bigger names
(35:56):
to it as well, and Miss Nights it's going to
be key to what we're doing. There's a do funding
page as well, So this is why I enjoy doing
this show because the biggest thing is we're trying to
find different ways to address TTE and just it's one
of those shows where compared to the other ones, this
is a thinking person broadcast because you never know if
(36:18):
anybody that you know, family, friend, or whatever will come Acrosscess.
This isn't one of those shows where we're looking to
gain any you know, we want to see as many
people participate in the chat and look at it later.
But this is a show that stands the test of
time because of what we're looking to do. And by
the way, I have to make this hockey reference, okay,
(36:39):
because it is we talked about Prince Nonvin. Okay, so
I'm going to do that right now. Kenny Albert and
Ed Olchuk are broadcasting the Florida Panthers and the Detroit
Red Wings of Detroit. And for those of you that
know Kenny Albert, he was on the Motor City Mad
Mouse Show a while back in Kenny and I have
been good friends, so it's really great to see Kenny.
(37:00):
We're talking about Prince Albert at the same time. Albert
is the name Candy I see any great stuff here
on the network. So hockey fans, Rejoice, Detroit Reving, Flora Panthers,
Kenny Albert Andie Oldchuck, Scott Morgan, Roth, Canny Embley, Well person,
Jennifer Horsebull here to bring you coverage of consent CZ
(37:20):
and head trauma. All right, Johnny An, anything you want
to add to this?
Speaker 1 (37:24):
No, I mean, I thought it was a great conversation.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
We know, a great job, I think, William, it's really
I think it's very important to talk about the symptoms.
So that and William, one of the things that I
would like to actually have you closed with is how
most people that are in it don't recognize it for themselves,
that they and their loved ones.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Might you know you had something to say about that
amount of stone the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Yeah, Yeah, that's the biggest thing is not only is
the family's not recognizing what's going on there, the athlete
or the venteran is not realizing what's going on. And
one part that I left out of that, guys, when
I was laying on that floor and I knew I
was struggling, and I knew I couldn't get up. My
brain was stuck on this thing, was like in your life,
in your life, is you hear it over and over
(38:06):
and over NonStop. It's like, as a matter of fact,
if I had a beautiful day outside, I go outside,
like such a beautiful day, my brain said, it's a
great day to die. It's like you really hear these
conversations going on. And so remember if you are a veteran,
you're coming back. Now, you've been trained to kill, so
all you've been doing and you're doing what's natural to you.
(38:26):
Now your brain is stuck on kill kill. Okay, now
who are they gonna kill? Well, they don't have a
true enemy over here, So now I think they're creating
them in their mind because this is all they've been doing,
is killing for the for the military. This is what
they do, and so and and when you're getting that mold,
like if I wasn't a counselor, like I don't think
(38:47):
I could have lasted as long as I did, you know,
until I found help.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yeah, all right, Well, so now we're gonna go to
our segment Candy. You have your takeaway when you come
up with candy, and you know obviously you've digested it all.
We'll wrap it up and we'll put the goal fund
me page up there in a moment floor, George, I think.
Speaker 6 (39:07):
Really that my takeaways from this are to really as
somebody on the outside, to really recognize the symptoms, and
to really be there as a resource to help spread
the word. And you know, the GoFundMe is really William's
way of giving back. He really wants to help others,
(39:30):
you know, and help them heal and get the word out.
And so I think that's that's those are my biggest
takeaways from this, and I think that probably goes for
almost all of the series. But really, you know, listening
to your story about your friend and how you didn't
(39:51):
recognize the symptoms until after until it was too late,
and educating people about that now so that hope week
we can even if we save one person's life, we've
done we've done a good thing, you know, and as
many of those one people life that we can do,
you know, if all four of us can save one
(40:11):
life because we recognize this and then you know, our listeners, everybody,
the trickle down effect, that's I guess one of my
biggest takeaways.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
You know. Well, all right, so that said, let's put
the go fund me page out, We're gonna wrap up
the show and again we're gonna get prepared for the
sports to change shortly, but just to give you a
preview for next week, we're gonna be talking about Joe Namath.
That'll be next week of an interesting thing and that
you can elaborate there. That's a great topic and that
one will actually make inside the pics as well by can.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Awesome at Kanye West to that one. You gotta add
Kanye to it.
Speaker 6 (40:46):
I do want, I do wanna. I'm gonna I'm gonna
say the GoFundMe page only because we do put this
on our podcast and if somebody is listening to the podcast,
they're not gonna be able to see that. So it's
h T T P S colon slash us, go fund
period me slash nine three f F nine c six e.
(41:11):
So that was go fund period me slash nine three
f F nine c six e for all of you
that are listening to it. So please, if you if
you feel feel it in your heart to uh, if
the stories touch you and you you want to help.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Please do so.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
You know, Can I say one last thing guys if
you guys, I know we're talking about CTE, but one
of the things that we kind of glazed over. Guys,
I was in dementia. I got lost some own community.
I'm laying on my floor. Listen, how many people do
we know in our families? Like our loved ones, are
our parents and our grandparents are going through this? Like
(41:55):
that machine brought me back from dementia, Like I don't
I couldn't tune half years ago, we couldn't have this
talk go find me like I was literally ball head, guys,
I was bald before I started this, and and I
couldn't talk. I just couldn't talk. I was at the
same symptoms as my buddy who killed himself. His machine
is saving lives, helped me save more lives.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
That's it. Great reference. Well, you ever heard of dementia
call d u m b M E N t I A.
Was that dementia? D u M b M E N
t I A. Ever heard of that one?
Speaker 4 (42:29):
Have you dementia dumb doumb minia?
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Yeah, now you.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Haven't heard of it because I made it up. People
like me that.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Let me finished.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Okay, the humor with this show too, not everything's gotta
be really seriously really come on, really teriously really domnias.
When I get in the kitchen and I kill hard
boiled eggs. I broiled turkeys on Thanksgiving. And when I
go out there and destroyed old Chief Saw anywhere I
get in the kitchen, it's like having the Rocky movie. Okay,
(43:04):
what Rocky fordrago. Anything he hits, he destroyed. When it
comes to food, I destroyed. Okay, there we.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Knew exactly what she was saying. I was laughing on
the inside. I was trying to laugh on the out there.
It's okay, you can. I'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
I'll go out there. Thirteen lion King analogy who cout
him up to the baby? That's what that shows all
about King. I'll I can't tell you.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
I'm about to copy right there, just so you know
I'm copyright now.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
You can't never use it again.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
About copyright, I said it myself. You're gonna copyright my
voice when I'm doing just make sure I get paid people.
I want that thing called cat a sage. Okay, what
I'm not talking.
Speaker 4 (43:49):
I'm gonna send it over to my crowdfunding. All the
posts are going over there.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Oh it's okay. I'll donate to wherever I got to donate.
All I know is it's been fun. To do this show.
We do it every Wednesday night around seven fifteen seven
twenty Easter time. We're going to move up the starting
time to that as we do our preliminary calls. Have
these things figured out. All Jennifer has to do is
dissect my penmanship, which you can probably do if you
don't to just get a magnifying glass that works as well,
(44:14):
so it doesn't make any difference. But that's my outline.
I'll go the way possible. What's that?
Speaker 6 (44:20):
Sometimes even a magnifying glass doesn't help you're writing?
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Wow, all right, come on, you just call me a doctor.
When they're writing a prescription, they figure it out anyways.
And that's why we do these things called prep calls
here on the network at night. So hey, listen, how
many times can you talk about the Lion King on it?
Shelt like this when you have a kok like me
mentioning it so they have it Lion King people. And
I can't tell you how many times I've gone ahead
(44:46):
and watched that show. I'll tell me, I like I
liked cartoons. I was born on it Saturday people when
they had Targo doesn't even though I was in that
thing called an income figure sixty three, so years now
you remember, we're close to it.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Anyway, So are you you were born early?
Speaker 2 (45:07):
I don't know what I was. All I know is
I was born on a Saturday, That's all. No.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
I was on time.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Oh are you a Christmas baby? Like on the twenty fifth, No,
the twenty ninth.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
I Christmas time? Baby?
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Got you? Got you? Got?
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Yeah? I mean okay, And I'll tell you one thing.
I'm superstitious. I used to go ahead, watch a lot,
listen to that time when the Lions were on a
winning streak, and I listened one time and ended up
losing to the Miami That's tooken around. But there's a
serious topic. But I tried a little bit of like that. Anyways,
(45:42):
as we had the Lions and the Miami Dolphins into it,
I'll need a whole lot more than Matata. Since our
host coach will be on hot seat, we'll talk a
little football, motor sports, and a whole lot more next week.
So that does it, Candy take us the rest of
it away.
Speaker 6 (45:55):
South flourd should Be Publishing Company published a book, Lessons
to the Microphone, Tuning into the entering Wisdom of Visionary Leaders.
It is written by our host Scott the MotorCity Madmouth
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has a picture of a young Scott, so you got
to purchase the book just to see that. But then
it also talks about his forty plus years in the
(46:16):
media and how it has changed. He's got some great
stories in the book, so go check it out. It's
available on Amazon, Barnes and Noble, Kindle, Google and Apple Books.
There's also a link on our website www dot self
floridatribune dot com where we will be putting up Will's
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the need and you can't click it from the YouTube side,
(46:39):
you can always go to our website www dot self,
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If you like to listen to podcasts, you can find
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(47:00):
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I think I got it all, Scott, except one last thing.
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Speaker 2 (47:31):
All right, great stuff, Candy. So when we come back
next week, we're gonna talk about Michael Schumacher, Shoe Namath,
and we're gonna also talk about Miss signs Altema was
something else. I doubt we'll even hit the mentor segment
next week because we'll just focus on those and then
we'll continue to bring mentors as we go along. The
show is an ongoing fluid things, so we'll incorporate different
(47:54):
things as we go along. But that's what we're looking at.
So I want to thank everybody for joining us here
on this edition of Roll It so On. Behalf of
Candy I believable person, and Jennifer Horsepool. My name is
Scott Morgan on Comotives City, Madam, I'll say, have a
great night and no fortunate changes at nine o'clock pm
e S at a time and if you miss any
of this you can also re listen to it on
(48:15):
YouTube as well. So thank you very much everybody, and
we will see you next week at this time. By
now
Williams.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Good evening, everybody, welcome to another edition of let It's
my name is Scott Morgan, Rock Motor City, man Mouth,
get ready to go here. But also just won't let
everybody know that the Sports Exchange will definitely be at
around nine o'clock m MES at times, so we have
a doubleheader. We'll promote that on social media after we
get there with this show. But meanwhile, glad to have
(00:43):
Jennifer horse pull back in the broadcast.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Thank you, it's a pleasure to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
And of course, well Parson a nine year team who
was a Bob fletter, great job, well, thank you, Glad
to be here, appreciate. And of course Kandy Imblein gonna
be joining these shows now full time, and I know
she's always had some great questions and me'll implement where
I need to. The whole idea is you need to
get the message above CTE out there, and that's what
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our plan is to do. But that said, we're going
to begin with a reference called the rubber ball reference
or the brain feels like in sledding competition. I'm gonna
ask both for some details. What it's like is you're
doing this competition, what does a brain feel like I
know you've talked about the rubber ball. The he's elaborate.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Well, you know what, there's two different parts of that.
Like the truth is when you have so much adrenaline
going and think about it, we pulling. Now, I know
we're pulling like eighty four point five g's, but you
also going ninety miles an hour into that.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
So it's just it's so exhilarating.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
You really don't like, I know, we talk about the
rubber ball, we talk about the slidhead, but when you're
in it, you don't feel any of that. You just
excite me. It's just like being on a road of coaster,
but now take that roller coaster and then you multiply
that by like fifty or sixty. Uh, that's the best
way acting. It's so exhilarating, Like you can't feel I
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never feel damage, brain damage going down that track unless
I crashed or had a concussion or or the migraine
or something like that. But other than that, like that
ruber ball, think I'm not too sure about, but less yeah,
go ahead, referring to that thing where we like bouncing
off the side of the sled, like, yeah, that's one
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thing we do called I can see that being called
the rubber ball, but that's really g forces just you.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Know, and then when the when the ride ends, then
what well, when.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
The ride ends, so I got some people walking through
here right, well, when the ride is like it just
depends on where we are. But most of the time,
you're just so grateful you got through that down that
track without crashing. That's number one. Like, especially after you
get that first, like you for that. The next ten
times you' getting a slave you you're paranoid. It's like
(03:04):
a little bit of you just you concern and like
everything that feels a little bit off, You're like, oh
did we crash at because thing with the crashing, you
never know you crashed until your shoulder starts to heat
up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
And so there's two parts that can touch the ice.
That is this is where it gets tricky at like
h if you like when you first roll over on
our side, right, so you know that sound of fingernails
on the chaluk board like this multipply that by twenty
or thirty that's the sound of your helmet scraping the ice.
Now you get tired of that noise, so you want
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to get it off. The get off the ice, and
you get it off. So now onlything left to touch
the ice is your shoulder. So any piece of flesh
that touches the ice is gonna burn off, like to
the bone, like it's gone. And so now you you
you compromise that. What are you gonna do?
Speaker 4 (03:54):
You're gonna sacrifice that fingerails in the chruk boarder?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Are you gonna?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
You know? So it's kind of like you're doing this
you just as long as you can take that noise. Yeah,
but that that's oh my god, I'm sorry I'm rambling
on here but giving me flashbacks. But yeah, that's really yeah,
that's really the uh, the biggest I'm sorry, give another question,
give another question.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Well, OK, one of the things like when you when
you end, like you talked about like one of the
things that you talked about last week, right was Cameron
Diaz and when she finished the ride and she was like, whoa, yeah,
talk about when the ride ends. Right, So you've got
the adrenaline going, which is gonna be you know, a
lot anyway, but then you've had that constant baby shaking
(04:38):
syndrome going on in your head. So talk about when
the ride ends successfully, not when you crash, but when
the ride ends successfully, what's going on?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Well, for a person like me, I was numb. I
got numb to the G forces and the track, so
I didn't feel anything right. But if we took people
down that track, like like a Cameron Diaz, people like that,
different people like if you're not exposed to it, Like,
I can't explain to you what a G force feels
like because there's only two places you're gonna get them
(05:07):
on this planet, like we get them. That's in the
bops led and then the F fifteen and F sixteen
fighter jets. So like when you first time you feel it,
you're really trying to figure out what the heck just
happened to you because it's not something you just can't
get it from anywhere else. If that kind of makes sense.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, we need to describe like skydiving. You know, it's
a skydives, so we would describe it.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
Like describing the feeling is like describing salt if you
don't know what salty tastes, Like, how can you dribe salt?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Right?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
So it's something you have to experience.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I love how you put that, Like, yeah, that's that's
really the truth. Like you, Just like people, I've been
interviewed a thousand times and all the reporters always ask
me what's it feel like going down that track? And
I try to just explain you just can't come up
with the words. Also, I think that might be the
reason why most people would CTE and this kind of stuff.
(06:03):
They can never explain their symptoms either because there's a
there's a connector somewhere.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah, sorry, ken'dy get anything you want to add to
the robber bowl? Analogy will continue on, But no, I mean.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
I guess one of my questions would be is, obviously
you don't like to crash, and you know you were
in the Olympics, But my question is is you train
how much before that? Like how many times did you crash?
And when you were young, when you were first learning
how to be on a bob sled, were you crashing
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a lot there too, or tell me a little bit
about training like that.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Well, for me, I was in my third year before
I having my second or third before I had my
first crash. I'll guarantee you if I had that first
crash in that first year, I probably would have never
come back.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
You started young though, right, how old were you?
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I think it was around twenty eight when I started,
so I wasn't quite young.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I was at the end of my track career, but
I wasn't I wasn't spring Chicken either, Okay, okay, yeah, So.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
You are a track star and then you got introduced
to Bob Sledding.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Well, I don't have any Olympic track middle so I
can't say track star. But yeah, you know I wasn't
one too bad though, I wasn't bad. Yeah, okay, well,
let's go. Let's continue on. Obviously, we talked about suicides
in twenty nineteen. Your teammate Povele Jofanovic committed suicide on
May eleventh, twenty twenty, at the age of forty three.
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He called William and couldn't understand Paully Poveley and obviously
got frustrated because William couldn't understand the words that were jumbled.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I'm just paraphrasing what we have here. Two weeks later
it was over William. Obviously, it took took it personally,
and there were three more other suicides that were positive
with CT. Let's elaborate what happened with pove Jovanovic. What's
the story. I'll right you talk about the story and
we'll continue on. That's your story. I'm gonna leave you.
Sometimes I let people ride soul on these, Janet, I
(08:06):
think this is the time for let William talk about it.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Well, you know, the story with probably is the truth is,
like Papuly was a unique guy, and he was a
you know, when we were at teammates, we actually weren't
even the best of friends. We were acquaintances. We didn't
you know, we were social with each other, we had
we'd have any problems or anything, but you know, we
just weren't. We didn't have a bond, you know. But
when I left tam Usa, like I moved back to
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la and I started writing. Probably wanted to be a writer,
and so he started calling me.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
With these.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Like I'm really just now putting this together recently, Like
this was prior to COVID, And so he was calling
me with these creative stories, right, and I thought it
was creative writing, you know, But now I'm just now
realizing his mind had already slipped, because the very last
time he called me, he would speak in Gibberish. It
was either gibbish or some kind of old world language.
(09:04):
I heard he had started doing that with his brother
as well, and so I couldn't understand him at all,
Like I was really digging. And at that time, guys,
I owned a treatment facility before I joined tm USA,
and I managed many of them after tm USA, and
so I told myself, I got to help this guy.
I gotta help him. I have to help him. And
the truth is I didn't do anything to help him
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at all, like I other than think about it.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
And then a few weeks went by.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I don't know how long it really was, to be honest,
but next thing I know, I get the word back
that he went to his family's factory and he hung himself.
And yeah, the guilt, man, it just got me because
mental health is my background. And I told myself I
had to help this guy, and I didn't do anything
to help him, and I was really really ashamed and
embarrassed about it. And that's actually the reason that I filed.
(09:52):
The one reason I filed the class action is because
I just saw it happening to so many people and
nobody's not talking about it. To the athletes, we're all
seeing the same thing. Something's wrong, but we can't put
it into words. We don't know what this feeling is.
We couldn't nobody could connect the dots right, And so
eventually I got the word that Pabaly was in stage
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four of CTE Wow. And according to what I was
told from from the Corners report, they said they had
not even an NFL brain had looked this bad and
it was pretty rough. Yeah, And so like I didn't
forget myself for a while until I realized he was
in stage four, so I couldn't really help him. And
at that time, the truth is, like I was residing
(10:34):
on the floor of my own apartment at the time,
like I was struggling. I didn't even know how bad
off I was, you know, And the truth was here,
I am trying to say, Paba, but the truth is,
he really saved my life, and like I just really
put that together in the last month.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
I had no idea.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
I was still thinking like I failed and I failed him,
But no, he came to save my life. That's probably
what this story really was. But at the time when
I when it first happened, you couldn't tell me that.
I was like, no, I failed this guy, you know.
So but yeah, Pablo he was a really good guy man,
and it's you know, great family, but in a great athlete.
(11:11):
But everybody loved this guy. Like the people who work
in office now who really have decided not to help
the athletes were his best friends. That's the disturbing part.
They were like like I wasn't their buddies, Like I
wasn't their best friend. He was their best friends. And
they turned it back on him, and I'm just like, wow,
how did this? Who does this?
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Who does this?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (11:35):
And you had other teammates that some were successful in
their attempt at suicide and others failed. So can you
talk about the team overall in what was going on?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Well? I found out, like I knew one of my
one teammates, he committed suicide and after the two thousand
and two win Olympics, he was just gone. He actually
shot himself in the chest. They did not check his brain.
This was prior to CT so I didn't were thinking
about checking brains at that time. But he was an
older guy, he was probably in his forties or so,
and you know, he wasn't a national team athlete, so
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no one really gave it the attention they should have
given it. They were just oh, he died. All that's
too bad. We're sorry he did. But nobody looked into it,
you know. But I know about I found out about
four suicides, but I believe there's more because so many
people have reached out to me said they attempted. I attempted,
I attempted, And I'm just blown away about all the
(12:33):
suicide attempts. Nobody's really helping people. They're not even even
connecting the dots and putting this thing together. But I
know there's a lot more. So I'm sure there's more
suicides out there that we just don't know about. Somebody
knows though, But I also know they're also trying to
keep it a secret. They're doing their best to sweep
it under the carpet. So but they messed up. I'm
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the one guy like I was dying, like when I
fold this case. So I never ask them for money
for myself. I never asked anything for myself. It was
all about take care of my guys because I knew
my days were numbered. I thought I will be deceased
before the end of the court case, you know. And
I told them to warn that new generation before they
start the sports, so they still fight me on both
of those things. And as Jennifer can tell you, the
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last three times I was in court, I'm standing by
myself against all these big.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
High powered lawyers and it's just me up here like this.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
With CTE trying to you know, talk to the judge
and make sense of this thing and still get everybody help.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah, okay, well we're gonna do now what we're going
to do now, I'll if you have one other thing,
can you one out? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (13:38):
I wanted I wanted to go a little bit into
the symptoms because William, you were saying, like when Paveley
called you, you were on the floor.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Tell about being on the floor.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
What were what was going on in your life in
your mental capacity when Pavely called you?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Oh man, that is a great question for me. Like
for many years I had this random day of cloudiness
that will show up. It was random.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
They was so random.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
So I thought it was diabetes because like, I drink
some caffeine, then I'm okay, I can get out the
bed at least. But those random days of cloudness turned
into random days of clarity, and it was such a
slow progression. When it hit me, I didn't even I
never saw it coming. So eventually I got to the
point where every day when I woke up, I knew
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I didn't know what the real day was, and I
know I didn't know what really month we were really in.
So I had this little daily planner. I would pick
it up and then I look at it. Okay, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday,
or whatever the day is. Now I got to figure
out what month we really in. My brain was stuck
in the loop. It's telling me it's either January or August.
Always January August. And I don't know why those same
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two months. But every day I woke up, I thought
it was that I don't care if it's Christmas. I
can see the Christmas tree in the living room, but
it's still January or it's August. But eventually I figured
that out, right, And so what I did. I put
these whiteboards all over my apartments, right, And so my
first routine was figuring out the day in the time.
(15:04):
But before that, every night, before I went to bed,
I grabbed this. I took a thermis of coffee or
bottle of Coca cola, and I put on my nightstand.
And if I didn't have it, I couldn't get out
of the bed before three o'clock, and I have dis
messed up the whole day, which mean and I'm gonna
miss work, any doctor's appointments, just any I'm gonna miss everything.
And the world was just flying by me. I have
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no idea how long got laid like that, and it
sat like that, and then it got even worse.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
It got so much worse that eventually I took that.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
I took the bed out the bedroom and put it
in my living room because now if I need to crawl,
I can crawl to that bathroom, I can get to
the kitchen, I can get to that front door, I
can see it all. Apartments in California are very expensive
and you don't get a lot of space, so you
get to see everything at once. Yeah, yeah, that extra
that bedroom was Actually I didn't even need that. I
might as well have been in the studio because I
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didn't even go in there. Yeah. Yeah. It's such a
brutal and progressive, and it's slow, and the sneak up
on you so quick you you just don't see it coming,
and by the time is there, it's over. It's too late.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
And you thought you were having different kinds of health
care issues. What did you think you were having?
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Yeah, I thought it was diabetes, because well I was.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
I was cloudy, I was confused, I didn't have any energy,
and they wereked, like I said, random days. It was
so random. So I drink a little bit of caffeine
and I gave me energy to get up. Now I'm
still cloudy, but at least I'm out of that bed.
And so if you dealing with anybody who's dealing with
concussion issues, are they'll all telling the same thing. They're
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now drinking Red Bulls, Marshall drinks and caffeine. That's our
first that's your first self medication. I realized, Like I
remember one point, I was so proud. I was like,
I was like, just like I got I didn't medicaire,
I didn't do any of that stuff. And I start thinking, well,
how'd you get out the bed every day?
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yeah, I use caffeine. Yeah. So yeah, that's just it.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
I was putting all these little tricks in and they
were saving them out butt, but I was really digging
a hole deeper because I was fixing these issues until
the next one showed up. But I was never getting
help for the first issue.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah, great, stop poring. Well let's go. Okay, what we're
gonna do this, It's time for our first station break.
Then when we come back, we're gonna talk about the
people that you mentored. And while you're doing that station
break afterwards, Candy can put their gofund me up and
then we'll talk about it later. So we'll do it
twice throughout the show. Well, will a good station break. First,
we'll go back to the mentor. Then we have a
hockey topic and Candy you'll have her own takeaways.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
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up on the bottom here. That is the go fundme
for Will Will you wanted to talk a little bit
about the GoFundMe page and what it's for.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Yeah, I have a lot of people ask me, you know,
like how did you get better?
Speaker 3 (19:02):
What happened? And I actually what happened is Joe Namath. Guys,
please check his story. He there's videos he put out.
He said he used hyperbarack oxygen to reverse the symptoms.
And so I tried it, you know, and I was
in that chamber for one hour the first time I
tried it, and it turned the lights back on. Now,
just so you know, not everybody gets those that quick relief.
(19:22):
Some people need that thirty days of treatment. But for
some of us, we get immediate relief because we finally
getting blood back to all the damaged areas. And yeah,
just it woke me up and it changed my life.
So I really just want to provide the same service
that was provided for me. And I was blessed. I
was able to do the first free treatments for free,
like nobody. They didn't charge me. But after those first
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two treatments and I knew it was working. I knew
I needed its machine and it was so expensive, and
so right now, I really just really want to provide it,
provide the service, let the athletes and our veterans come
through because our veterans are struggling too, and just provide
the treatment. It's really no no tricks to this thing.
There's no there's no hidden agendas. We just want to
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save lives. Know they saved me, and I just want
to pass it on.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Yeah, how do you plan on uh on providing the
therapies to people through the go fundme?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Well, the go fundme is is really it's really just
for the equipment, Like I'm gonna I'm going to probably
donate the real estate myself. I'll find the place we're
gonna house out of uh. And then we just need
the money to get the equipment so that we can't
provide the treatment. We also need special doctors to come along.
We're not just gonna be out here, uh, you know,
(20:38):
shooting in the dark. We don't want to We're not
gonna harm anybody, but we want to provide the same
things that were provided for me. And like I can
really open today if I really chose to do it.
But then I'll have to take out a loan, which
I mean i'm't have to make money doing this, which
means I'm gonna have to charge, and I don't want
to charge. It's too expensive and most people won't go
get the treatment if it's too expensive. If you know
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you making life decisions, well, I'm gonna pay for this
treatment to help myself, or I'm gonna pay rent. You
know you're gonna probably pay your rent, because I know
I did. I went through all these same steps, and
I just don't want anybody going through the same thing
I went through.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Well, wht me get interjected? Let me interject here. You
mentioned Joe Nama. So you know I'm gonna do for
our audience, I'm gonna talk about a future Joe name
of topic that has nothing to do with that, So
that'll be coming up in future episode. I think this
is one that will definitely baffle a lot of people.
So while you guys are talking part about show, I
like you guys just talking. All I gotta do is
(21:36):
just absorb and learn. So that's great stuff. All right,
So that's that great story. Let's talk about the people that, well,
you mentored the two that we have on our listened
their Prince Albert and then el Wdding. Start with Prince.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Well, actual prince helped, don't I'd ben't really mentor him,
but he was a bobsleer driver, and uh my story,
I got a prince out the story that I it's
kind of it's a little bizarre.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
I'm gonna give it to you.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
I live in LA I have a lot of friends
who are gay, so you know, I grew up, I
had a gay cousins. You know, it's just part of life,
you know, not a big deal. So I had my
first crash. She was doing it was a Satan rich
worke up and when I got off the track, degraded
to walk towards where the paramedics were. Actually they grabbed me.
(22:22):
They actually pyramates came and grabbed me, and I was like,
why you touched me with these strangers, like, you know.
So they take me back to this little area. I'm
sitting there. Prince Albert is standing there with Ana Konakva
and Michael Schumacher. Right, so yeah, Prince Albert turns and
wings at me, right.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
You said, Michael Schumacher, Right, yeah, Michael Schumacher. Well you
know what, you give me an idea? I got a
Michael Schumacher topic done too. Keep going.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
That guy has a huge fan club man. They would
travel deep.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Wow, you think the NBA players over here, you never
seen anything like this guy's aura.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
So anyway, I'm sitting there, I'm on the paramagics.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
They were checking me for concussion, and Prince Abert walks
by him and he stops and he winks at me. Right,
I was like, oh my god, Prince Irber was in
love with me. I didn't even know. I had to
stop isolating with him because I don't want to lead
him on or anything like that. You know. That's but
as yours went on, and I'm thinking back about all
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some of these weird stories I had over time, I'm
realizing I was concussed.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
He was not in love with me.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
But when your brain is gone, when you're not thinking clearly,
you just see what you see what you see. In
In fact, there was even some rumors out over the
media saying like, and we think Prince Harbersgate is even
have children.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
I was like, I knew it.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
I knew it.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
I knew it.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
But the truth is it took for me to get
help and treatment before I could even.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Process what really happened.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Like he was in love.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
What he's winking at me? Because in Europe that's what
they do. They wink.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
They don't say, you know, it's no, I can't even
do that wink they do. They got it on like
locked out, they got I gotta like use my cheekbone
to get that, you know. But no, he just threw
that wink out so easy. I was like, oh my.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
God, yeah so that, yeah, that happened.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
That happened. So I'm sorry, Prince Albert. I know you're
not in love with me. My brain was messed up,
you know. But Prince Albert really nice I.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Thought everyone was in love with you.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
I mean, I wish, I wish, you know, when Prince
Albert he retired and O two because he crashed. When
of us saw that game to crash, and we were
on tour at the next one, we were.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
In, uh we weren't Italy.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
We're in courteena Italy racing and we were waiting in
the long line just to get some water out of
the water hydrant. And we said, Albert, we thought you'd retired.
He was like, no, man, you know, you guys the
only ones that treat me like crap. You know, That's
why I came back. And then one of the guys said, yeah,
that's take your ass to the back of his line,
you know, stop trying to jump. So that's kind of
(24:53):
how everybody treated me like a regular person. It wasn't
like a royalty or you know, I don't even think
like I was. I probably didn't even understand who that
guy really really was at the time. But yeah, but
many years with this guy, nice guy.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Okay, yeah, well I have to add this now. You
got me thinking, Okay, all the stuff that you're telling
me remind me of scrambled eggs. You know. It really is,
I mean your brains scrambled eggs?
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Yeah, all right. So here I'm going to lead to
another thing that happened today, fresh off the press. I'm
not proud of it because my lit old Candy has
to clean the microwave because of what I just did today.
That's why I say the heck out of the kitchen.
I thought I would warm up a hard boiled egg
and did it in a microwave. Well guess what, Uh
it didn't work out. That's why you keep me out
of the kitchen. People keep me out of the kitchen.
(25:43):
Oh well, hey, listen, I've done worse things than that,
like cook a grilled cheese sandwich in a microwave for
four minutes and near I was gonna broke a triple
paying window and broiled the turkey on Thanksgiving. But that's
beside the point, up Kansas City. But this poor hard
boiled egg, there was only about a quarter that left
of candy. I mean hard boiled agd have three in
(26:05):
a quarter. So now she poured candy has to clean
up the microwave. Boyl you do a good job. You
do it right, Okay, So that's my hard boiled egg story.
For all you people looking to do anything with a
hard boiled egg, don't put my microwave or you have
an mess called mass all right, well, all right, so
I just put that out there, fresh out the fresh
out of the kitchen. Yours truly proves that you could
(26:28):
do a lot of work on the air, but stay
out of our kitchen, all right. So with that said,
the time to go to Al Whiting, because I know
when candy gets old with that microwave, it'll feel like
waiting and the way where it will be called clean,
all right, continue.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
On, all right, Al White, And he's a buddy of mine.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Like when I was in I was still running track,
so like I was a really fast forty meter guy,
forty your guy, right, So I had a lot of
NFL guys who.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Came to train with me.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
So I had, like you, Kevin Knox, you might know
his son who plays for He's what Golden State last year?
Speaker 4 (27:03):
He was the first round draft pick out of Kentucky.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I had Al Whiting, which if you ever seen that
movie water Boy, he's the guy who gets poked in
the eyes, you know, so he's really most people know
him from that scene. And so with Al he wanted.
He was telling me about these football movies. Fast forward,
I was doing football movies with him. So when I
got to Sundance years later, Pat goes on, I'm doing
(27:28):
a celebrity Bob sledg club where I take celebrities down
the Bob Sled track. So I give him a ride
down that track. And Al is a talker. He loves
to talk, you know, you non stop you. He's a
good guy, don't get me wrong. And so he goes
down that track, he gets out of that sled. I
don't think he talked to me about fifteen minutes. He
was just kind of silent, you know, he gave me
(27:49):
that matter off. It was the same day. Cameron Dills
went down the track the same day, but he just
I don't think he enjoyed it too much either. Yeah,
most people say the same thing, you know, you know,
like roller coasters, you it's fun, Bob's lit. Yeah, and
you fight it for your life the whole time. So
but you know, I kind of expected it, you know,
most time I will take some of my buddies down.
(28:11):
There were celebrities and stuff like, and I was just waiting,
just waiting for the look on their face.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Because I knew what it was gonna be already. I
already knew.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yeah, great stuff. I'll tell you. I like when you
have these isolated things. All right, now, we talked about
earlier the NHL. We're going to do a show on
this probably one day, but we're gonna make reference tonight
and then when we get to this tegment, Candy, we'll
have her takeaways and wrap up and then we'll go
back to the yell fund me. Let see you know.
The Sports Exchange will be at nine o'clock PM for time.
(28:42):
Got a great crew there, Marvin Powell the Third toward
drink Corn myself will be on there, Candy and Tom
Oh no not Tommy tonight, right, Candy, who do we have?
George Drake Corn, we have Marvin Powell the Third, You.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
And I Yeah, that might be it.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
We have four or five people I don't know, but whatever, Yeah, no,
normally Jacob Christmas on. It will be a great show,
will be definitely loaded, for sure, lots of great so
to talk about, primarily basketball to night walls football. All right, Well,
with that said, let's continue on beck. Former NHL player
Chris Simon has been diagnosed with state three CTE. The
(29:22):
Simon family issued a statement and shared that before his
death by suicide last year, that Simon was dealing with
a number of serious issues, including memory loss, hearing issues,
daily headaches, anxiety, paranoia, and impulsive behavior. Simon, known for
(29:43):
his toughness on the ice over a career that's spanned
more than seven hundred games in the NHL, becomes one
of the most high profile hockey players linked to the
degenerative disease, which we all known has had trauma TTE.
He played for New York Islanders. Okay, well, we've talked
(30:05):
about hockey being a sport they definitely subjected. Take it
from there, Chris Simon. Simon says that you're turned to talk.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Well, man, man, I'm glad you brought that stuff up.
Like I think I knew about him.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
I think I remember seeing him on TV, uh when
he when he passed, or I think that was another
hockey player. I might have been mixing it too up.
But like every symptom you just yeah, every symptom you
just mentioned, like I had them all. Like everything you
just mentioned, like I went through that. And that's why
my crowdfund is what I'm doing is so important. Like, man,
I promise you, Joe Name. He didn't just save my life, man,
(30:42):
he gave me life back, you know. And so there
are people, most of us, we don't know that there's help.
Like you can search the internet, you can go you
can go to your doctors. They're gonna tell you the
same thing. There's nothing. There's nothing, there's nothing. And so
this is the only thing that's it's saving lives. Like
I'm not the only one. Guys like Joe Name has
(31:04):
passed to me. There's other people I've referred out. You
can live with this thing and it can turn some
things around. You just have to do the work. And
really the work you're doing. You're just gonna get this
thing and you're gonna taking that. That's the work. There
is no more to it than that. It's so simple,
and the fact that people aren't finding it's just so disturbing.
Like I'm gonna keep talking until I can't talk any longer.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Yeah, I think, yeah, And I think that it's the
threat of suicide is really why it's so important to
start talking about this and getting those symptoms out there,
because they're getting misdiagnosed as PTSD, bipolar, you're just angry
you have these issues. They're getting written off as anything
(31:51):
but brain injuries, and no one's talking about brain injuries
and how common they are. Not everyone has CTE, but
a lot of people are having those symptoms, and everyone
with CTE seems to have those exact symptoms. And I
think that's what's so vital about what William is doing
is in getting out there. And you know, thank you
(32:13):
Scott and Candy for hosting on your show. It just
helps spread the word because that's really what's vital.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
By the way, a question for you guys. I know
we kind of keep a format going. Did we talk
about Kanye.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
West last time?
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Yet?
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Did we talk about what? No?
Speaker 4 (32:29):
What did we mention Kanye West?
Speaker 2 (32:31):
No? We will know her time too, not tonight.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Okay, Well, I'm just saying what she said. We really
get to it's missed so many misdiagnoses with this thing.
That's what we really have to hit on. Yeah, it's misdiagnosis.
And you know, people, if you don't understand what you're
dealing with and you you kind of stuck because you're
not getting a treatment. So that's that's why I think
it's so important. Guys, the research is out there. You
just gotta find the.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
People you're gonna talk about diagnosis, Candy, I'll tell you
a story when I got misdiagnosed for Parkinson's disease. So
you know what we'll end up doing is now that
you've brought it up, I mentioned that as a future topic.
In fact, actually we probably have a few of them
right now, probably for next week now I think about it,
we'll talk about misdiagnosis on any disease die. So you guys,
(33:17):
what you guys just did is you just created the
next week's show between Michael Schumacher Joe Mackert, we won't
even need any mentors. I think we'll just follow this
format next week, can talk about all three of them
and keep with hyperbar Camber after we do the Veterans
Day thing. Great stuff. I already have next week's show
set up because you guys did this diagnosis there you
(33:38):
go have be a preview of next week's show here
on the network. So with that said, anything else you
want to add about the NHL player, Chris Simon says,
say what you want, because you have one shot to
do it. John, you can incorporate Candy. You can't as well.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Man, Just I feel bad for his family, you know,
just so not mytes to the family, Like I mean,
I know this has been a while, but when you
see your family members start to go down that rabbit
hole and they're not getting better and they would have
taken our life, it's like they have to live with
those memories, you know, all those great things that he
ever did over his career. I grantee you, they're not looking.
They can't even see that right now, right, So, yeah,
(34:15):
apologies to the family.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
And I'm sure that to a certain extent they're they're
dealing with guilt because they didn't recognize all these symptoms
and now that see none that we're coming out with
what the symptoms are of CTE and they're learning more
and more, they're like, oh my gosh, I should have
I should have recognized this sooner. And the guilt that
they couldn't help or they didn't recognize to be able
(34:40):
to help it would cause a lot of depression, I think,
as you know, as a trickle down effect.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
Yeah, the same guilt William felt over Pavle right front
of it, right like it's not yours, you don't need
to own it. But you do because your heart, you know,
your heart's in it, like William's heart was in it
and trying to help pably not even realizing his own
his own struggles. And I think I think it's important
(35:08):
to talk about, you know, hockey overall, Right, it's not
just professionals that end up with CTE. I mean, and
actually I don't know which week you want to talk
about it, Scott, but that that's a segue into the
shooter from you know, he was targeting the NHL or
the NFL headquarters and he was just a high school
(35:31):
he was he only played football in high school.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, actually we're probably gonna wait on that now that
we've talked about these three. So that's why as we
talk about things and why this is such a continuous topic,
there's so many different layers to go. Because Joe Navis
is a very interesting person to talk about, Michael Schumacher,
I mean right there. So you know, that's why I
think it's just pretty intriguing anytime you associate bigger names
(35:56):
to it as well, and Miss Nights it's going to
be key to what we're doing. There's a do funding
page as well, So this is why I enjoy doing
this show because the biggest thing is we're trying to
find different ways to address TTE and just it's one
of those shows where compared to the other ones, this
is a thinking person broadcast because you never know if
(36:18):
anybody that you know, family, friend, or whatever will come Acrosscess.
This isn't one of those shows where we're looking to
gain any you know, we want to see as many
people participate in the chat and look at it later.
But this is a show that stands the test of
time because of what we're looking to do. And by
the way, I have to make this hockey reference, okay,
(36:39):
because it is we talked about Prince Nonvin. Okay, so
I'm going to do that right now. Kenny Albert and
Ed Olchuk are broadcasting the Florida Panthers and the Detroit
Red Wings of Detroit. And for those of you that
know Kenny Albert, he was on the Motor City Mad
Mouse Show a while back in Kenny and I have
been good friends, so it's really great to see Kenny.
(37:00):
We're talking about Prince Albert at the same time. Albert
is the name Candy I see any great stuff here
on the network. So hockey fans, Rejoice, Detroit Reving, Flora Panthers,
Kenny Albert Andie Oldchuck, Scott Morgan, Roth, Canny Embley, Well person,
Jennifer Horsebull here to bring you coverage of consent CZ
(37:20):
and head trauma. All right, Johnny An, anything you want
to add to this?
Speaker 1 (37:24):
No, I mean, I thought it was a great conversation.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
We know, a great job, I think, William, it's really
I think it's very important to talk about the symptoms.
So that and William, one of the things that I
would like to actually have you closed with is how
most people that are in it don't recognize it for themselves,
that they and their loved ones.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Might you know you had something to say about that
amount of stone the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Yeah, Yeah, that's the biggest thing is not only is
the family's not recognizing what's going on there, the athlete
or the venteran is not realizing what's going on. And
one part that I left out of that, guys, when
I was laying on that floor and I knew I
was struggling, and I knew I couldn't get up. My
brain was stuck on this thing, was like in your life,
in your life, is you hear it over and over
(38:06):
and over NonStop. It's like, as a matter of fact,
if I had a beautiful day outside, I go outside,
like such a beautiful day, my brain said, it's a
great day to die. It's like you really hear these
conversations going on. And so remember if you are a veteran,
you're coming back. Now, you've been trained to kill, so
all you've been doing and you're doing what's natural to you.
(38:26):
Now your brain is stuck on kill kill. Okay, now
who are they gonna kill? Well, they don't have a
true enemy over here, So now I think they're creating
them in their mind because this is all they've been doing,
is killing for the for the military. This is what
they do, and so and and when you're getting that mold,
like if I wasn't a counselor, like I don't think
(38:47):
I could have lasted as long as I did, you know,
until I found help.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yeah, all right, Well, so now we're gonna go to
our segment Candy. You have your takeaway when you come
up with candy, and you know obviously you've digested it all.
We'll wrap it up and we'll put the goal fund
me page up there in a moment floor, George, I think.
Speaker 6 (39:07):
Really that my takeaways from this are to really as
somebody on the outside, to really recognize the symptoms, and
to really be there as a resource to help spread
the word. And you know, the GoFundMe is really William's
way of giving back. He really wants to help others,
(39:30):
you know, and help them heal and get the word out.
And so I think that's that's those are my biggest
takeaways from this, and I think that probably goes for
almost all of the series. But really, you know, listening
to your story about your friend and how you didn't
(39:51):
recognize the symptoms until after until it was too late,
and educating people about that now so that hope week
we can even if we save one person's life, we've
done we've done a good thing, you know, and as
many of those one people life that we can do,
you know, if all four of us can save one
(40:11):
life because we recognize this and then you know, our listeners, everybody,
the trickle down effect, that's I guess one of my
biggest takeaways.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
You know. Well, all right, so that said, let's put
the go fund me page out, We're gonna wrap up
the show and again we're gonna get prepared for the
sports to change shortly, but just to give you a
preview for next week, we're gonna be talking about Joe Namath.
That'll be next week of an interesting thing and that
you can elaborate there. That's a great topic and that
one will actually make inside the pics as well by can.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Awesome at Kanye West to that one. You gotta add
Kanye to it.
Speaker 6 (40:46):
I do want, I do wanna. I'm gonna I'm gonna
say the GoFundMe page only because we do put this
on our podcast and if somebody is listening to the podcast,
they're not gonna be able to see that. So it's
h T T P S colon slash us, go fund
period me slash nine three f F nine c six e.
(41:11):
So that was go fund period me slash nine three
f F nine c six e for all of you
that are listening to it. So please, if you if
you feel feel it in your heart to uh, if
the stories touch you and you you want to help.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Please do so.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
You know, Can I say one last thing guys if
you guys, I know we're talking about CTE, but one
of the things that we kind of glazed over. Guys,
I was in dementia. I got lost some own community.
I'm laying on my floor. Listen, how many people do
we know in our families? Like our loved ones, are
our parents and our grandparents are going through this? Like
(41:55):
that machine brought me back from dementia, Like I don't
I couldn't tune half years ago, we couldn't have this
talk go find me like I was literally ball head, guys,
I was bald before I started this, and and I
couldn't talk. I just couldn't talk. I was at the
same symptoms as my buddy who killed himself. His machine
is saving lives, helped me save more lives.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
That's it. Great reference. Well, you ever heard of dementia
call d u m b M E N t I A.
Was that dementia? D u M b M E N
t I A. Ever heard of that one?
Speaker 4 (42:29):
Have you dementia dumb doumb minia?
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Yeah, now you.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Haven't heard of it because I made it up. People
like me that.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Let me finished.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Okay, the humor with this show too, not everything's gotta
be really seriously really come on, really teriously really domnias.
When I get in the kitchen and I kill hard
boiled eggs. I broiled turkeys on Thanksgiving. And when I
go out there and destroyed old Chief Saw anywhere I
get in the kitchen, it's like having the Rocky movie. Okay,
(43:04):
what Rocky fordrago. Anything he hits, he destroyed. When it
comes to food, I destroyed. Okay, there we.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Knew exactly what she was saying. I was laughing on
the inside. I was trying to laugh on the out there.
It's okay, you can. I'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
I'll go out there. Thirteen lion King analogy who cout
him up to the baby? That's what that shows all
about King. I'll I can't tell you.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
I'm about to copy right there, just so you know
I'm copyright now.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
You can't never use it again.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
About copyright, I said it myself. You're gonna copyright my
voice when I'm doing just make sure I get paid people.
I want that thing called cat a sage. Okay, what
I'm not talking.
Speaker 4 (43:49):
I'm gonna send it over to my crowdfunding. All the
posts are going over there.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Oh it's okay. I'll donate to wherever I got to donate.
All I know is it's been fun. To do this show.
We do it every Wednesday night around seven fifteen seven
twenty Easter time. We're going to move up the starting
time to that as we do our preliminary calls. Have
these things figured out. All Jennifer has to do is
dissect my penmanship, which you can probably do if you
don't to just get a magnifying glass that works as well,
(44:14):
so it doesn't make any difference. But that's my outline.
I'll go the way possible. What's that?
Speaker 6 (44:20):
Sometimes even a magnifying glass doesn't help you're writing?
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Wow, all right, come on, you just call me a doctor.
When they're writing a prescription, they figure it out anyways.
And that's why we do these things called prep calls
here on the network at night. So hey, listen, how
many times can you talk about the Lion King on it?
Shelt like this when you have a kok like me
mentioning it so they have it Lion King people. And
I can't tell you how many times I've gone ahead
(44:46):
and watched that show. I'll tell me, I like I
liked cartoons. I was born on it Saturday people when
they had Targo doesn't even though I was in that
thing called an income figure sixty three, so years now
you remember, we're close to it.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Anyway, So are you you were born early?
Speaker 2 (45:07):
I don't know what I was. All I know is
I was born on a Saturday, That's all. No.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
I was on time.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Oh are you a Christmas baby? Like on the twenty fifth, No,
the twenty ninth.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
I Christmas time? Baby?
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Got you? Got you? Got?
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Yeah? I mean okay, And I'll tell you one thing.
I'm superstitious. I used to go ahead, watch a lot,
listen to that time when the Lions were on a
winning streak, and I listened one time and ended up
losing to the Miami That's tooken around. But there's a
serious topic. But I tried a little bit of like that. Anyways,
(45:42):
as we had the Lions and the Miami Dolphins into it,
I'll need a whole lot more than Matata. Since our
host coach will be on hot seat, we'll talk a
little football, motor sports, and a whole lot more next week.
So that does it, Candy take us the rest of
it away.
Speaker 6 (45:55):
South flourd should Be Publishing Company published a book, Lessons
to the Microphone, Tuning into the entering Wisdom of Visionary Leaders.
It is written by our host Scott the MotorCity Madmouth
Morgan Roth and it talks about him being It actually
has a picture of a young Scott, so you got
to purchase the book just to see that. But then
it also talks about his forty plus years in the
(46:16):
media and how it has changed. He's got some great
stories in the book, so go check it out. It's
available on Amazon, Barnes and Noble, Kindle, Google and Apple Books.
There's also a link on our website www dot self
floridatribune dot com where we will be putting up Will's
GoFundMe link on our front page. So if you feel
the need and you can't click it from the YouTube side,
(46:39):
you can always go to our website www dot self,
floridatribune dot com where we have a plethor of great content.
If you like to listen to podcasts, you can find
us wherever you get your podcasts. If you want to
sponsor a show or you know, advertise with us, you
can call Scott nine five four three oh four four
nine four one. If you want to be a yes
(47:00):
or have topic ideas, you can either be in the
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I think I got it all, Scott, except one last thing.
If you see that red subscribe button in that lower
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(47:21):
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Speaker 2 (47:31):
All right, great stuff, Candy. So when we come back
next week, we're gonna talk about Michael Schumacher, Shoe Namath,
and we're gonna also talk about Miss signs Altema was
something else. I doubt we'll even hit the mentor segment
next week because we'll just focus on those and then
we'll continue to bring mentors as we go along. The
show is an ongoing fluid things, so we'll incorporate different
(47:54):
things as we go along. But that's what we're looking at.
So I want to thank everybody for joining us here
on this edition of Roll It so On. Behalf of
Candy I believable person, and Jennifer Horsepool. My name is
Scott Morgan on Comotives City, Madam, I'll say, have a
great night and no fortunate changes at nine o'clock pm
e S at a time and if you miss any
of this you can also re listen to it on
(48:15):
YouTube as well. So thank you very much everybody, and
we will see you next week at this time. By
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